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"dvd - widescreen vs. fullscreen"
Wed Oct-15-03 07:39 AM

          

so i just returned..err..exchanged my matrix and scarface dvd's cuz i accidentally picked up fullscreen versions of both instead of widescreen...

i prefer widescreen, but most people i know that move over to dvd from vcr have complained that they dont like th widescreen format cuz they feel like they're getting cheated out of extra screen space...and its usually impossible for me to explain to them the benefits of widescreen... without getting my tongue tied..

but anyway..whats ur preference?

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not even worth discussing
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RE: not even worth discussing
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      RE: not even worth discussing
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widescreen
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Methinks that in this forum erryone'll pick Widescreen
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RE: dvd - widescreen vs. fullscreen
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what?
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they're selling them seperately now
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      a Trent Reznor move
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      What's even worse...
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RE: dvd - widescreen vs. fullscreen
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RE: dvd - widescreen vs. fullscreen
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Widescreen all the way....
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Widescreen
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WIDE FUCKING SCREEN
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I am a college student w/ 13 inch TV...
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RE: dvd - widescreen vs. fullscreen
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no question widescreen.
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RE: dvd - widescreen vs. fullscreen
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tell em that they're missing shit off the sides
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yes, tradeoff is ish looks smaller
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OAR
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My vote goes to widescreen all the way!
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RE: My vote goes to widescreen all the way!
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      wish I could answer this one
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      actually...
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In regards to Reply #3
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EXAMPLES! Must See!
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wow
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thanks
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fixed OS link
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good lookin!!
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FULLSCREEN!!
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Fuck Fullscreeen
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this post...
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Widescreen unless....
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Widescreen
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RE: dvd - widescreen vs. fullscreen
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1. "not even worth discussing"
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You either get this or you don't. The ONLY time full-screen is worth considering is when the picture is the original, non-matted 35mm frame rather than a pan and scan of the matted theatrical image. A few directors, Kubrick for example, kept mics etc. out of the matted space to make full-screen presentation something closer to the theatrical framing.

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28. "RE: not even worth discussing"
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has anyone seen a full-screen version of either matrix film? how do they look/compare?

  

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29. "RE: not even worth discussing"
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Were they shot without mics in the safe area? Would they even bother rendering all those extra effects for the non-theatrical portions?

Whoever saw the IMAX saw close to full-screen (actually a perfect square rather than 1.33:1).

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2. "widescreen"
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i did the same thing with my scarface dvd. and got a big hassle from best buy about it. but widescreen is the best format.

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3. "Methinks that in this forum erryone'll pick Widescreen"
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Cuz we are smart.

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4. "RE: dvd - widescreen vs. fullscreen"
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people's peripheral vision is greater from side to side then up and down, so widescreen focuses attention better. Besides, you shouldn't just cut up what a cinematographer spent a lot of time on. Cinematography's an art too.

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5. "what?"
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usually both verisons are on the same disc.


but the diff is the aspect ratio of each format

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6. "they're selling them seperately now"
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the everpresent idea of capitalism prevails...

why give em both for free when you can charge for them seperately?

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7. "a Trent Reznor move"
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next it's gonna be DTS v's Dolby Digital

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13. "What's even worse..."
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...is that the cases aren't marked clearly. I had a full screen SCARFACE in my hand but just noticed it as I was at the counter. And THEN, it took me forever to even find a widescreen version. I feel sorry for the consumer sometimes.

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8. "RE: dvd - widescreen vs. fullscreen"
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honestly, i've been buying dvd's since the beginning. i have a sixty inch tv, and i still usually prefer full screen. i won't complain if it is widescreen however. though depending on the movie, i do decide to get widescreen.

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16. "RE: dvd - widescreen vs. fullscreen"
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i'm wondering...you have a sixty inch tv...how can you prefer fullscreen? on many movies, you're missing damn near half of the picture...

  

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17. "RE: dvd - widescreen vs. fullscreen"
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with 60 inches one would think you wouldn't be bothered at all by letterbox

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19. "RE: dvd - widescreen vs. fullscreen"
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you are misinformed, stop watching fullscreen

  

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9. "Widescreen all the way...."
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I forgot what movie it was that I bought, and it was the fullscreen version by mistake. Now I always check the box before I buy a DVD.

Oh, and I feel you about trying to explain the difference to people, I just leave it alone now. It's frustrating to hear someone say "I HATE those black bars on the top and bottom of my screen!" though.....


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10. "Widescreen"
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Plus, I just bought a Mitsubishi HDTV with the widescreen and it's lovely. The only bad thing about it is the picture is so clear you can pick out the flaws in movies with CGI.

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11. "WIDE FUCKING SCREEN"
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Reason why its caps is cause im still pissed I have old school on full screen format.

But it annoys me when I pick up dvd's and they are in full screen format. I mean, save for a college student watching tv on a 13 inch tv, those things should be extint. That or hidden behind a counter do it doesnt confuse.

  

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33. "I am a college student w/ 13 inch TV..."
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And I STILL prefer widescreen. The square shape of fullscrenn just diminishes visual effect a lot for me.

The family has a 53" Panasonic widescreen TV back home, and sometimes I cry when I stare at my lil' ol box with one speaker

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12. "RE: dvd - widescreen vs. fullscreen"
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i prefer the ones that let me choose depending on what kind of tv i am watching them on.

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14. "no question widescreen."
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Pan 'n Scan is brutal to watch.

Take something like Casino? You're cutting out like...half the movie since it was shot 2:35:1.

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15. "RE: dvd - widescreen vs. fullscreen"
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If a movie was made in widescreen and shown in theaters that way, the widescreen is the only way to go. especially with anamorphic widescreen, where you get even better resolution.

  

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18. "tell em that they're missing shit off the sides"
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i always here that. "i want the top and the bottom". shutthefuckup. and i can always spot that fake post-editing horizontal panning. widescreen forever!

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36. "yes, tradeoff is ish looks smaller"
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unless you have a widescreen tv. so go buy one.

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20. "OAR"
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original aspect ratio, however the movie was shot and intended to be seen, this is how i watch it

which usually means widescreen, but there are seom exceptions, especially kubrick

  

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21. "My vote goes to widescreen all the way!"
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If those black bars annoy you, invest in a widescreen tv, although that is a little bit more expensive then buying the fullscreen...
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24. "RE: My vote goes to widescreen all the way!"
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>If those black bars annoy you, invest in a widescreen tv,
>although that is a little bit more expensive then buying the
>fullscreen...

yeah, but then stuff that is on TV or from tapes etc., are either stretched out or have the black bars on the sides right?

  

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32. "wish I could answer this one"
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Since I'm a starving student, I have a regular TV. I assume that there must be a function that you can switch from 4:3 to widescreen to watch tape and cable shows not made for widescreens. Regardless, I'll probably get a widescreen when my pocketbook allows.
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34. "actually..."
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there is a way that they half-fixed that problem. On the WS TV i have back home, if you're watching something with the 4:3 ratio you can set the screen to stretch the sides of the picture slightly but keep the center intact. You get used to it pretty quickly anyway

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22. "In regards to Reply #3"
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*big shit-eating grin*

How comforting.




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23. "EXAMPLES! Must See!"
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If the aspect ration thing is throwing you off, go for an in-depth explanation and to see the following images side by side instead of in diffrent windows.

Widescreen vs. Full Frame (2.35:1 Ratio Films)

Blade Runner |
90% of the time Actors are omitted from the scene because of the full frame transfer, like here.

The Black Hole |
Here, no characters are missing, but a HUGE amount of background work is, what a shame to not see all the work put into these movies if you watch the full frame.

A Few Good Men |
Noah Wyle was completely omitted from this scene.

A Few Good Men (Jack) |
This one, part of the BIGGEST scene if the movie, one of the great moments in movies in our generation, Jack Nicholson was compleetely omitted. yeah, it's from his backside but he was fidgeting in the chair and you lost that.

October Sky |
Now, I have never watched this movie, but jeez I can tell the scene is abosulutey wasted, and that all sense of scale was missing in the full screen.

Widescreen vs. Full Frame (1.85:1 Ratio Films)

As Good As It Gets |
films that are shot at 1:85:1 don't lose quite as much when transferred to full screen, but still, depending on what movie and what scene, it could speak a thousand words.

  

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26. "wow"
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this is incredible.

thanks.

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27. "thanks"
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this is great

  

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30. "fixed OS link"
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October Sky Check this one out comapred to the full screen link in my first post BIIIIIG difference.

  

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39. "good lookin!!"
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i never knew there was THAT much of a difference

  

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25. "FULLSCREEN!!"
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cause i don't know a thing about movies and the picture is bigger.

  

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31. "Fuck Fullscreeen"
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Wide screen is how its supposed to look. If you dont like it, get a bigger TV.

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has inspired a new sig for me

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37. "Widescreen unless...."
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unless you don't have a widescreen TV or a large TV. If you had a TV 27" or smaller, only then would I advise you to get a full screen version.

  

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38. "Widescreen"
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Only way to watch a film.

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40. "RE: dvd - widescreen vs. fullscreen"
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hype williams and paul hunter raised me to enjoy the widescreen.
Too much BET is bad for you.

King James Bible states in (1st Corinthians 14:8-9)-"..Again, If the trumpet does NOT sound a clear call, who will get ready for battle?..So it is with you."

For an audible glimpse of my sound, click here: http://www.zshare.net/audio/9549455779abe02a/

  

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