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"LATE PASS - That Dark Knight bullshit was long as hell!! Its almost like..."


          

it was originally supposed to be two movies then they said "fuck it, lets put all this shit in the same movie!" I got tired of watching that bullshit but I needed closure!

I could see why certain fanboys were hyped off of Heath Ledger's Joker, this lil' scrawny ass white dude beating up all these big brolic cats, I heard so much about the "pencil trick" by the time I actually saw it I was underwhelmed. At least Christian Bale appears to be somewhat athletic to make some of his shit semi-believable but then a lot of his is over the top too with him bending gun barrels and shit(Batman got superhuman strength now?), then you got Ledger's 160lb ass snatching up Michael Jai White like a lil' bitch? FOH!

It had all the stuff I like in a movie - action, violence and gadgets, but the actual movie itself was lame as hell. You kinda go in expecting a super-hero movie to have SOME plot holes in it but this whole thing was one inexplicable plot hole after the other. I agree with people that said Batman's voice was lame as hell and then when they DID finally decide to end the movie? WTF?!

Oh well, I guess I can't get those 3 hours of my life back...

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wow you think so outside the box you're so cool and alternative
Dec 17th 2008
1
Awwww. Are you MAD that he EXPOSED your favorite movie?
Dec 17th 2008
3
      Yup. Everyone you disagree with is angry, OE, you nailed it..
Dec 17th 2008
8
           Yet everyone who disagrees with you is apparently a hipster contrarian
Dec 17th 2008
17
                And I basically agree with this...
Dec 17th 2008
29
                Yeah, they had a nice Two Face film set-up
Dec 17th 2008
34
                ^^ REEEEEEAAAAAAAL TAAAAAAAAAAAAALK!!! ^^
Dec 18th 2008
54
                ^^Napalm
Dec 17th 2008
31
                Yet everyone who disagrees with you is apparently a hipster contrarian
Dec 17th 2008
39
                It's why O_E is such an important part of PTP.
Dec 18th 2008
103
                     it's kinda like when they blew up the white clique in OKS
Dec 18th 2008
112
                          LOL
Dec 19th 2008
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                               ^ former member
Dec 19th 2008
173
                                    Sure
Dec 20th 2008
192
                Oh bullshit. There's criticism and there's "Hey everyone look at me!"
Dec 18th 2008
148
^^^^^^THE MUTHAFUCKIN TRUUUUTTTH!!!!
Dec 17th 2008
2
^^merit^^
Dec 19th 2008
177
You're soooo cooool
Dec 17th 2008
4
c'mon, dude went from being a gay cowboy to whooping Spawn?
Dec 17th 2008
5
      Tim Hardaway
Dec 17th 2008
6
      RE: Tim Hardaway
Dec 17th 2008
7
      Did you see how quick she shanked his bodyguards?
Dec 18th 2008
42
      he was a heroin addict inbetween
Dec 18th 2008
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The shit dragged too.
Dec 17th 2008
9
It was like Judd Apatow edited it
Dec 17th 2008
10
      cosign. I'm watching Freaks and Geeks right now; them shits
Dec 17th 2008
12
           apparently??
Dec 17th 2008
13
           It starts picking up around Episode 6....
Dec 17th 2008
23
           like, right now I can see it being a good series
Dec 17th 2008
24
                How many eps in the series
Dec 17th 2008
26
                18
Dec 17th 2008
35
                     thats it?? okay Im gettin it
Dec 17th 2008
36
                RE: like, right now I can see it being a good series
Dec 18th 2008
117
                     yeah
Dec 18th 2008
129
                          That's a good example of what you're talking about
Dec 18th 2008
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           By the end of disc 2, your opinion of the show will be higher
Dec 18th 2008
41
try watching it in a NC beach theater set to broil
Dec 17th 2008
11
That trip to China in the first half of the movie...
Dec 17th 2008
28
The China espionage scene was god awful
Dec 17th 2008
30
      real talk, the Chinese govt didn't have shit to say about that? Batman.....
Dec 17th 2008
40
           Seriously. You see that opening ceremony at the Olympics?
Dec 18th 2008
47
this dude said hyping it up like pussy in 8th grade
Dec 18th 2008
55
      dude, pussy was a big deal in the 8th grade
Dec 18th 2008
121
      I know, that joke was funny as hell, that's why I quoted it
Dec 18th 2008
143
      personally I don't see how you can front on Ledger's performance
Dec 23rd 2008
247
you really thought the joker was supposed to be physically imposing?
Dec 17th 2008
14
go re-watch the movie fanboy, he actually has several physical...
Dec 17th 2008
16
actually, he has a point
Dec 17th 2008
32
      the overtaking detective in interrogation room shit was wild murky
Dec 18th 2008
56
           are you forgetting something???
Dec 18th 2008
104
                Where did he get the glass? Did he have it while being tied up?
Dec 18th 2008
113
                in the interogation scene
Dec 18th 2008
127
                thank you!
Dec 18th 2008
144
                you can't be serious
Dec 19th 2008
168
                I've seen it twice, and watched with no distractions.
Dec 19th 2008
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                     Its a COMIC BOOK!!!! It don't NEED EXPLANATION!!!
Dec 19th 2008
180
                batman slammed him to the mirror and the mirror shattered
Dec 20th 2008
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                RE: are you forgetting something???
Dec 18th 2008
136
                     Ether! n/m
Dec 19th 2008
165
                     ^^^The "It ain't supposed to be realistic" plea cop
Dec 19th 2008
170
RE: LATE PASS - That Dark Knight bullshit was long as hell!! Its almost ...
Dec 17th 2008
15
Huh, can't beleive I never realized that was Michael Jai White
Dec 17th 2008
18
what do you disagree with? That the characters were unbelievable?
Dec 17th 2008
22
      Didn't find it too long. Didn't find the character particularly unrealis...
Dec 18th 2008
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           there's wasn't any "plot-holes"
Dec 20th 2008
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                No, you just cop PLEAS for the massive, gaping holes
Dec 20th 2008
224
It's definitely half an hour too long.
Dec 17th 2008
19
What do u mean by hold up?
Dec 17th 2008
21
I thought it would still be as good the second time as the first.
Dec 17th 2008
25
      Yea, I guess I could see that
Dec 17th 2008
27
      it seriously gets worse the second time.
Dec 17th 2008
37
      getting worse on subsequent viewings is the kiss of death for me
Dec 18th 2008
53
      wow is this really your criteria for a great movie?
Dec 20th 2008
187
           Seriously. Like after awhile its only natural to start to get bored.
Dec 20th 2008
195
           UH. Wrong. You missed the point. LOL.
Dec 20th 2008
200
           any movie I truly love improves with repeated viewings
Dec 20th 2008
202
                i'm ambivalent on Dark Knight
Dec 20th 2008
205
      Oh, Ironman will *DEFINITELY* go down as better in the long run.
Dec 18th 2008
75
      I've had Iron Man as better from the jump. But after repeated viewings.....
Dec 18th 2008
94
           Iron Man was only better from the jump because it came out 1st
Dec 20th 2008
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                If anything, the opposite is true.
Dec 20th 2008
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                     Reasons Iron Man is better than TDK:
Dec 21st 2008
228
      RE: I thought it would still be as good the second time as the first.
Dec 18th 2008
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      I saw it for the first time two weeks ago & rewatched it twice
Dec 23rd 2008
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I liked it better the second time around
Dec 18th 2008
64
Yup, still holds up nm
Dec 17th 2008
20
Ledger's performace was over rated IMO
Dec 17th 2008
33
He had just died, hence the overhyping.
Dec 17th 2008
38
here we go again, lol
Dec 19th 2008
181
      Still missing the boat, sparky.
Dec 19th 2008
183
           see, i have seen tim burton's batman like 20 million times
Dec 19th 2008
184
                AHA! So this is about Kobe, isn't it?
Dec 19th 2008
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                     I mean, nicholson can be great (about schmidt was good)
Dec 19th 2008
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                          LOL. Fair enough.
Dec 20th 2008
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only ... ONLY reason I liked the film was Ledger's performance
Dec 18th 2008
51
Auto L if you didn't see it on the big screen. Especially IMAX.
Dec 18th 2008
43
Good movies shouldn't REQUIRE that
Dec 18th 2008
44
I guess, I really don't do comic book movies, I'll watch them...
Dec 18th 2008
45
      for like "the biggest movie ever," nobody should be copping pleas
Dec 18th 2008
52
      'Gigli' is great while you're high and getting pussy
Dec 18th 2008
59
           LMAO -- Titanic is good when you're on a date in middle school
Dec 18th 2008
79
                'Titanic' is amazing when you play it on an unplugged DVD player.
Dec 18th 2008
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      The scenes shot with the IMAX cams imo were worth it
Dec 18th 2008
141
The subject line should have read
Dec 18th 2008
46
I enjoyed it
Dec 18th 2008
49
reasons why I forgive ThaTruth for being homophobic include...
Dec 18th 2008
50
And now, Hating on TDK = Stickin' it to the PTP!
Dec 18th 2008
57
Or just seeing shit for what it is.
Dec 18th 2008
61
      LMAO
Dec 18th 2008
62
Actual movie-goers carried this film to a $530 milliion domestic gross
Dec 18th 2008
67
      Guess what is #1?
Dec 18th 2008
69
           basically -- hating on Titanic is hipper than hating on Gump
Dec 18th 2008
74
           Thing is, few hate on Jaws, Star Wars, ET, Shrek etc.
Dec 18th 2008
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                I'll shit on ET
Dec 18th 2008
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                ET's glowing finger >>>>> The Joker's pencil move
Dec 18th 2008
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                i hope you relaize that TDK's breaking BLUERAY records
Dec 20th 2008
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                     LOL. Bluray been out for 24 hours. STFU
Dec 20th 2008
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           The problem is you're just using anecdotal evidence
Dec 18th 2008
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           Public opinion isnt swaying their way that's what has em mad
Dec 18th 2008
90
                *wags Mutumbo finger*
Dec 18th 2008
100
                     Thanks for playing
Dec 18th 2008
116
                          Thanks for supporing my cause with your rage
Dec 18th 2008
118
                               Daredevil was the best comicbook movie of all time
Dec 18th 2008
123
                                    Talking about Satan = You're enraged
Dec 18th 2008
158
                                         Daredevil better tho.....
Dec 18th 2008
161
           Titanic and The Dark Knight share an obvious common link...
Dec 18th 2008
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                true and fair enough. n/m
Dec 18th 2008
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                except that Titanic is 45 minutes longer and manages to make a real
Dec 23rd 2008
249
you're an idiot
Dec 18th 2008
58
hahaha
Dec 18th 2008
66
You put the "i" in idiot
Dec 18th 2008
126
I thought it was good but..
Dec 18th 2008
60
i thought it fuckin rawked
Dec 18th 2008
63
Exactly why I hate hype
Dec 18th 2008
65
wrong
Dec 18th 2008
68
^^^The PTP "its not supposed to be realistic" plea cop
Dec 18th 2008
71
      nah see, this is how an O_E v. Joker match up would go...
Dec 18th 2008
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      *DEAD*
Dec 18th 2008
83
           HAHAHA!
Dec 18th 2008
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      ok, so you're saying
Dec 18th 2008
92
           Did you just compare The Joker to Royce Gracie?
Dec 18th 2008
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                nice Joker laugh
Dec 18th 2008
105
                *Slams JRocc's Head on my Okaypencil*
Dec 18th 2008
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                     where in the movie did they say he was in an insane asylum
Dec 18th 2008
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                     He escaped in 'Batman Begins'
Dec 18th 2008
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                          ooh i haven't seen batman begins in a while
Dec 18th 2008
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                          he didnt escape in batman begins
Dec 20th 2008
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                               If that's true, than the TDK is even worse than it is.
Dec 21st 2008
229
                     sigh
Dec 18th 2008
125
                lmao, you didn't see Ledger armbar that one cop? classic BJJ technique!
Dec 18th 2008
110
                     The Joker >>>>> Brock Lesnar
Dec 18th 2008
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Your not going to respond to me but here goes anyway
Dec 18th 2008
70
LOL @ the voice plea cop
Dec 18th 2008
72
lol
Dec 18th 2008
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      Let's do an XBOX vs PS3 analogy
Dec 18th 2008
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      you also suck at analogy
Dec 18th 2008
97
           But am GREAT at making you mad
Dec 18th 2008
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                everyone needs goals
Dec 18th 2008
119
      I could feel his blood pressure go up from here
Dec 18th 2008
147
sure I will...
Dec 18th 2008
133
      this is killing me
Dec 18th 2008
146
      here goes
Dec 18th 2008
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           The Joker in TDK is actually Megatron
Dec 18th 2008
156
           RE: here goes
Dec 18th 2008
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                listen you seem to the the more level headed of the duo here
Dec 19th 2008
164
i haven't even seen it yet. *ducks*
Dec 18th 2008
80
had Ledger not died, it would have been trashed...
Dec 18th 2008
81
nailed it.
Dec 18th 2008
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^^^^LAVA
Dec 18th 2008
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The part you REALLY nailed is this right here:
Dec 18th 2008
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wow
Dec 18th 2008
99
rachel not being hot is my biggest
Dec 18th 2008
106
To be honest, her entire existence was a trainwreck
Dec 18th 2008
111
      that's what was shocking about this one, Pieface made Holmes look
Dec 23rd 2008
251
my favorite part of the movie, "I guess the Joker told you to kill me......
Dec 18th 2008
130
" Mr. Bigsbey, what exactly is it you hate about the Dark Knight?"
Dec 18th 2008
82
LMAO...never fails.
Dec 18th 2008
91
Postjack: I HAVE been convinced that Ledger deserves the Oscar talk...
Dec 18th 2008
109
The one thing I feel guilty about when dissing TDK
Dec 18th 2008
115
See that's whassap.
Dec 18th 2008
122
      Well, the difference between Bardem and Ledger...
Dec 18th 2008
131
      odd, because I thought Ledger was more analogous
Dec 18th 2008
132
           I agree on the Daniel Plainview analogy, personally I think Ledger
Dec 23rd 2008
250
I don't even get involved with Oscar talk because half the shit that...
Dec 18th 2008
134
^^^Tha Truth = THE RACER X of PTP!!!!!
Dec 18th 2008
135
Fair enough.
Dec 18th 2008
139
I don't care about the Oscars, but I agree Heath was gold
Dec 18th 2008
145
was it ledger's performance, or the character?
Dec 19th 2008
182
The ultimate villain.
Dec 22nd 2008
238
I was so proud that someone let a villain be so dark in a big movie.
Dec 22nd 2008
235
      LOL. Silence of the Lambs was a big movie too.
Dec 22nd 2008
236
Jack's Joker more creative.....GOOD!!!
Dec 18th 2008
140
RE: LATE PASS - That Dark Knight bullshit was long as hell!! Its almost ...
Dec 18th 2008
142
why do folks who defend this movie take criticism so personally?
Dec 18th 2008
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      !!! this is Miami vs. Texas, '91 Cotton Bowl level swagger stomping
Dec 18th 2008
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      Yep. Post over at that point, really.
Dec 18th 2008
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           The first half of Batman Begins is superb.
Dec 18th 2008
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                yup
Dec 18th 2008
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      Thing is it goes both ways
Dec 18th 2008
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      don't compare me to OE. I don't lose sleep over this movie
Dec 18th 2008
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           I couldnt tell
Dec 18th 2008
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                LMMFAO @ "objectively speaking"
Dec 18th 2008
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                     RE: LMMFAO @ "objectively speaking"
Dec 18th 2008
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      RE: why do folks who defend this movie take criticism so personally?
Dec 19th 2008
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I was gettin head when I saw it so it didn't last long enough
Dec 19th 2008
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.
Dec 19th 2008
169
TDK was jive long but I dug the themes
Dec 19th 2008
171
I liked Iron Man, it's just not the same kind of movie as TDK.
Dec 22nd 2008
239
      Exactly. 'Ironman' is good, while 'TDK' is a pricey horror movie
Dec 22nd 2008
241
you're not paying attention. That gun bending wasn't Bats.
Dec 19th 2008
174
I havent read these long posts but they shoulda left Two Face out.
Dec 19th 2008
175
Hold on, let me change into my nice slacks real quick
Dec 19th 2008
178
*passes collection plate*
Dec 19th 2008
179
"the movie was too long"
Dec 20th 2008
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Dec 20th 2008
189
I was almost ready to kill Benjamin Button myself
Dec 20th 2008
196
the Rule of Two and a Quarter, and I stand by it
Dec 20th 2008
203
scarface maybe?
Dec 20th 2008
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'Scarface' is THE snippet movie of our time
Dec 20th 2008
211
how are you gonna mention half Scorsese flicks and not Goodfellas?
Dec 23rd 2008
253
      Goodfellas is one of the best films ever made, period.
Dec 23rd 2008
256
           Indeed.
Dec 24th 2008
257
basically. I get furious when movies like Knocked Up are 2+ hours
Dec 20th 2008
210
i assumed it was because we have so many hour long shows now
Dec 20th 2008
212
yet people hate on the latest bond flick for being too short
Dec 20th 2008
220
      No, it was just garbage
Dec 20th 2008
226
I just watched it again, dude playing Lt/Commissioner Gordon...
Dec 20th 2008
191
Gary Oldman is the worst actor ever fam? Really?
Dec 20th 2008
194
No, he's right. Oldman is *supposed* to be good.
Dec 20th 2008
197
Wow Gary Oldman is a bad actor now?
Dec 20th 2008
225
this post is a giant mess, a huge clusterfuck of bullshit
Dec 20th 2008
199
^^^A MAN. WITH. S-E-N-S-I-T-I-V-I-T-Y.
Dec 20th 2008
201
the Iron Man knife is a sharp one - I liked that movie much more, too
Dec 20th 2008
204
      My beef with Ironman
Dec 20th 2008
209
basically.
Dec 20th 2008
207
TDK = Favre. Ironman = Pennington
Dec 20th 2008
213
      LOL - that actually was a good analogy for your argument.
Dec 20th 2008
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      an excellent comparison sir.
Dec 20th 2008
218
I was glad to see a 2.5 hour movie of good shit.
Dec 22nd 2008
240
it WAS too long, I was actually waiting on it to end
Dec 20th 2008
208
classic hater's rant...
Dec 20th 2008
215
the main problem with his assessment is the movie WAS about dent
Dec 20th 2008
221
^^^Fanboy #1 showed up. YESSS!!!
Dec 20th 2008
222
i'm with the people who makin people mad in this post
Dec 22nd 2008
230
Jim Emerson is TALKIN ABOUT IT!!! (link)
Dec 22nd 2008
231
Yup. Criticizing TDK = Criticizing Bush between 9/11 and Katrina
Dec 22nd 2008
232
Can't believe they cited Cinemablend
Dec 22nd 2008
233
When I read 'plot holes', I read 'I didn't quite get what they meant'
Dec 22nd 2008
234
Did you just compare the Joker to Bruce Lee?
Dec 22nd 2008
237
Can someone explain how he survived the jailhouse explosion?
Dec 22nd 2008
242
well explain this one to me if I'm so stupid
Dec 22nd 2008
243
      lol @ this
Dec 22nd 2008
244
      I still can't get over how they fell 50 stories but it was all good
Dec 22nd 2008
245
lmao at O_E
Dec 23rd 2008
246
I was waiting to see this after all the talk about Ledger >>> Jack
Dec 23rd 2008
252
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Dec 24th 2008
258
Bats didn't bend no gun barrels
Dec 23rd 2008
254
RE: LATE PASS - That Dark Knight bullshit was long as hell!! Its almost ...
Dec 23rd 2008
255
I thought it was alright, but clearly overrated
Mar 27th 2009
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Mar 27th 2009
260

Wrongthink
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1. "wow you think so outside the box you're so cool and alternative"
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...says Wrongthink

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3. "Awwww. Are you MAD that he EXPOSED your favorite movie?"
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Why mad?

Why for?



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8. "Yup. Everyone you disagree with is angry, OE, you nailed it.."
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Your shit's getting tired, find something new to say.

...says Wrongthink

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17. "Yet everyone who disagrees with you is apparently a hipster contrarian"
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You can't dismiss ThaTruth like you did and then get mad when someone turns around and does the same to you.

Personally, I think The Dark Knight is a very good (not great) film. I don't get the outright hate but I also agree that the film dragged and should have been two films.

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29. "And I basically agree with this..."
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>Personally, I think The Dark Knight is a very good (not great)
>film. I don't get the outright hate but I also agree that the
>film dragged and should have been two films.

I didn't hate it, it was entertaining and held my interest, I liked the action, violence and gadgets, but it just had too much shit going on, too many plot holes, and was just too damn long, like I said, it looked like it was originally supposed to be two movies and they decided to cram it all into one.

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34. "Yeah, they had a nice Two Face film set-up"
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And then decided to throw it into the last half hour of the movie.

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54. "^^ REEEEEEAAAAAAAL TAAAAAAAAAAAAALK!!! ^^"
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>I didn't hate it, it was entertaining and held my interest, I
>liked the action, violence and gadgets, but it just had too
>much shit going on, too many plot holes, and was just too damn
>long, like I said, it looked like it was originally supposed
>to be two movies and they decided to cram it all into one.

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Orbit_Established
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31. "^^Napalm"
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>You can't dismiss ThaTruth like you did and then get mad when
>someone turns around and does the same to you.

>Personally, I think The Dark Knight is a very good (not great)
>film. I don't get the outright hate but I also agree that the
>film dragged and should have been two films.

And I know you don't feel how I feel about the movie,
but I appreciate you for at least being fair



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39. "Yet everyone who disagrees with you is apparently a hipster contrarian"
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You can't dismiss ThaTruth like you did and then get mad when
someone turns around and does the same to you.

^ they should put this on the lobby entrance to PTP

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103. "It's why O_E is such an important part of PTP."
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Even when his views differ from my own, even when he pisses me off, it serves as a valuable reminder that passionately worded contrarian opinions still have merit, and shouldn't be dismissed.

I've never read an O_E post that didn't have some merit, even if it was buried under all the "AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA"s and "Frappamochalattechino"s.

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112. "it's kinda like when they blew up the white clique in OKS"
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172. "LOL"
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173. "^ former member"
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192. "Sure"
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148. "Oh bullshit. There's criticism and there's "Hey everyone look at me!""
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I wasn't taking issue with the OP's opinions, some of which I agree with. I was taking issue with his style.

...says Wrongthink

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2. "^^^^^^THE MUTHAFUCKIN TRUUUUTTTH!!!!"
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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


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177. "^^merit^^"
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4. "You're soooo cooool"
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5. "c'mon, dude went from being a gay cowboy to whooping Spawn?"
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that shit ain't right...

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6. "Tim Hardaway"
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7. "RE: Tim Hardaway"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFP9rCnXR54

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42. "Did you see how quick she shanked his bodyguards?"
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Plus his other henchmen already had the chrome to their domes by the time he had the knife to his mouth. Spawn, Gamble, Black Dynamite? I don't care who he was. He wasn't doin shit in that sitch.

  

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93. "he was a heroin addict inbetween"
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9. "The shit dragged too."
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This could easily been ended a half hour earlier gotdamnit.

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10. "It was like Judd Apatow edited it"
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12. "cosign. I'm watching Freaks and Geeks right now; them shits"
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feel like two hour movies (and do they even get better? I got bored after two)

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13. "apparently??"
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> (and do they even get better? I got bored after two)

I would jus wanna watch em to see all them in the early days

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23. "It starts picking up around Episode 6...."
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On the first 2-3 viewings, I loved it from the get-go. However, like, the last 2 times I revisited the series, the first 3 episodes didn't seem as good as I thought they were. I still really like ep 4 and 5, but I think you'd still find them slow.

If I could guess, eps 6, 7, and 9 are more to your liking.

But the real goodness to me is from ep 12 to 18 - gold. You might find ep 12 to be a bit slow.

>feel like two hour movies (and do they even get better? I got
>bored after two)

  

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24. "like, right now I can see it being a good series"
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but it's too rough around the edges. a lot of dead scenes where nothing funny happens, no characterization happens, and no plot points are advanced.

guess I'll stick with it tho.

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26. "How many eps in the series"
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If its worth checkin out, I'll try and pick it up on some holiday sales

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35. "18"
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first two are SLOW

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36. "thats it?? okay Im gettin it"
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117. "RE: like, right now I can see it being a good series"
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>but it's too rough around the edges.

Yeah, the writing on the early episodes aren't as tight as I thought they were.

>a lot of dead scenes where nothing funny happens,

A lot of the series is drama, though. In my eyes, it's more of a light drama (melodrama sometimes) with bits of chuckle-inducing/head-nodding/crack-a-smile comedy (a comedy of recognition - you chuckle/nod/smile because it's true) rather than a LOL-type comedy series.

>no characterization happens, and no plot points are advanced.

I'll keep my eye out for that when I see them again, but my impression of it right now is that there are lots of characterizations in those moments when the plot isn't necessarily being advanced. It's beyond great to have both at the same time, though, like The Wire.

  

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129. "yeah"
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>I'll keep my eye out for that when I see them again, but my
>impression of it right now is that there are lots of
>characterizations in those moments when the plot isn't
>necessarily being advanced.

take a scene from Beers and Weirs

(roughly summarized)

- Seth Rogen pushes old party crasher
- "You wanna go?" "I always wanna go"
- *sorry head-butting and a weak push"
- "That was stupid old man..."
- James Franco jumps in, holds back Rogen
- "Not here man"

I get that Franco is preventing a messy scene at Lindsay's house. he cares (still on episode three, so excuse me if they fall in love by the end...or hate each other).

but the scene itself just comes off flat. it's not really even nod your head funny, it's not well-acted (Rogen's character -- lol, wow) and the dynamic between Franco and Lindsay has been reinforced in other, better ways during the 44 minutes.

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138. "That's a good example of what you're talking about"
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What I did find funny though is that Daniel has old friends. But yeah, the series has its share of scenes that are intended to be funny that fall flat.

  

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41. "By the end of disc 2, your opinion of the show will be higher"
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I guarantee it © G. Zimmer

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11. "try watching it in a NC beach theater set to broil"
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I was literally trying to breathe as slowly as possible to avoid getting hotter.

anyway, I can see how it'd be a drag with a bunch of fanboys hyping the shit up like pussy in 8th grade. it was TOO long, period-point-blank-www.com. Two Face should've been set up for a third movie, but like you said, Nolan decided midway to cram it there.

still, I had a lot of fun watching opening weekend in the theater. and despite the flaws, better than most comic book movies released.

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28. "That trip to China in the first half of the movie..."
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...upon re-examination, I change my analysis of that scene from "unnecessary" to "a total drag."

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30. "The China espionage scene was god awful"
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Completely terrible

nigga invading foreign countries

seriously, gtfoh

  

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40. "real talk, the Chinese govt didn't have shit to say about that? Batman....."
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would've caused an international incident and started world war 3, Gotham city thugs woulda been the least of his worries

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47. "Seriously. You see that opening ceremony at the Olympics?"
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>would've caused an international incident and started world
>war 3, Gotham city thugs woulda been the least of his worries


That opening ceremony >>>>> Stopping Batman

FOH

They should have scoped his bitch ass
out of the air and tortured him in the
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55. "this dude said hyping it up like pussy in 8th grade"
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>anyway, I can see how it'd be a drag with a bunch of fanboys
>hyping the shit up like pussy in 8th grade.

Basically, though. If it wasn't for the box office and the ridiculous reaction by fans, we might just treat this like a mediocre box office movie.

And they're talking Heath Ledger Oscar talk?

Only in America.

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121. "dude, pussy was a big deal in the 8th grade"
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143. "I know, that joke was funny as hell, that's why I quoted it"
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and cats WERE hyping it up like that.

Funny shit.

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247. "personally I don't see how you can front on Ledger's performance"
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I mean, obviously the death backstory adds to the gravitas and will be over-mythologized by some but it was a great fucking performance to me......and I just saw it for the first time last week on DVD after hearing hype for awhile.

I thought all the performances were pretty good outside of Maggie Gyllenhall, who really brought nothing to the table in the Rachel role and managed to make me nostalgic for Katie Holmes, although I do agree with Truth about the Batman voice being a little off-putting.....but Ledger owned pretty much every scene he was in as The Joker.

I have no problem with him in the Oscar conversation.


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14. "you really thought the joker was supposed to be physically imposing?"
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that was the only time in the movie where he physically assaulted someone larger than himself.

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16. "go re-watch the movie fanboy, he actually has several physical..."
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altercations in the movie

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32. "actually, he has a point"
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Off the top of my head, there are two other definitive points where he physically overtakes someone. One that bothers me is when he somehow overtakes the detective inside the interogation room. The second time is when he takes the Chinese accountant/launderer guy from lock-up. If TheTruth wanted to be picky with it, he could also mention when The Joker killed the fradulent Batman dude, but the guy was tied to a chair when the Joker killed him and it is possible The Joker had some henchmen beat and subdue the Batman imposter.

The Michael Jai White scene I would let slide because clearly he takes Michael Jai White and his henchmen by surprise.

  

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56. "the overtaking detective in interrogation room shit was wild murky"
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that was definitely one of the concrete points where the film totally lost me, like, okay, this guy is just omnipotent for the plot's sake.

There was NO reason that the most dangerous person Gotham, or the fictional world, had ever know, would be able to spring a jail break. It was goddamn laughable. But all it took was a shot of an overeager cop walking into an interrogation room, and BAM! WE HAVE IT!

THE JOKER IS TAKING HOSTAGES, MAKING BOMBS, AND ON THE LOOSE AGAIN! HE MIGHT EVEN TAKE MULTIPLE RECREATIONAL CRUISERS IF YOU'RE NOT CAREFUL!!!

It was laughable ... but, somehow, a high water mark in filmmaking?

Puh-lease.

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104. "are you forgetting something???"
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he had a shard of glass to that cops throat. he was obviously baiting the cop wit that "you wanna know which of your friends were cowards" talk to get the cop to come near him so he could surprise him. i swear people don't pay attention to shit anymore.

>that was definitely one of the concrete points where the film
>totally lost me, like, okay, this guy is just omnipotent for
>the plot's sake.
>
>There was NO reason that the most dangerous person Gotham, or
>the fictional world, had ever know, would be able to spring a
>jail break. It was goddamn laughable. But all it took was a
>shot of an overeager cop walking into an interrogation room,
>and BAM! WE HAVE IT!
>
>THE JOKER IS TAKING HOSTAGES, MAKING BOMBS, AND ON THE LOOSE
>AGAIN! HE MIGHT EVEN TAKE MULTIPLE RECREATIONAL CRUISERS IF
>YOU'RE NOT CAREFUL!!!
>
>It was laughable ... but, somehow, a high water mark in
>filmmaking?
>
>Puh-lease.

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113. "Where did he get the glass? Did he have it while being tied up?"
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Or did it magically appear so that he could conveniently overtake a larger police officer, despite the officer's advantage in training, size, and position?

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127. "in the interogation scene"
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Gordon uncuffed him and Batman threw him around the room and slammed him into the glass, so it is possible for The Joker to get a shard of glass in his hands. To get a shard of glass in his hands to then being able to hold that detective with the same shard of glass to his neck still requires some considerable amound of effort in my opinion though, especially seeing as how The Joker was sitting down when the detective approached him to tussle.

  

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144. "thank you!"
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>Or did it magically appear so that he could conveniently
>overtake a larger police officer, despite the officer's
>advantage in training, size, and position?

I mean I think cops are as incompetent as the next guy, but to think they're all just clay in the Joker's hands is pushing it.

I've never had combat training, but I still think I can whoop a guy tied up in an enclosed room, "shard of glass" or not.

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168. "you can't be serious"
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it fucking shows broken pieces of glass in the damn shot where the joker is talking and baiting that cop. in fact, they make it a point to have a camera shot right before that showing the joker sitting right below the cracked/broken pane of glass.

and for you and celery (his comment below) if a guy surprises you with a blade or piece of sharp glass and gets you in a potentially fatal position, say with it to your throat, you ain't doing shit if you want to live. it is EASY to overtake somebody with a knife if you surprise them. celery said he hasn't had any combat training and could take a guy in that situation. c'mon. well, i have had combat training, lots of it. specifically knife training and if a guy surprised me like that and got something sharp to my throat i know how hard it would be to defend.

people are right that its not worth it to argue with you guys in here because the problem is that you guys didn't even pay attention to the shit before you complain about it.

celery, i'll see you on Live though, lol.

>Or did it magically appear so that he could conveniently
>overtake a larger police officer, despite the officer's
>advantage in training, size, and position?

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176. "I've seen it twice, and watched with no distractions."
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It's not my fault that the filmmaker cut away so that we didn't see the action of the Joker overtaking a big, mad police officer. It seems tough to believe.

Celery also brought up the other key point in previous posts... after Joker throws Rachel out of the window and Batman dives after her, does he just peace out? Walk out with no consequence? Kill someone? Anything? There's an enormous gap in editing there, and in other places too, where logical questions are left unanswered.

I paid attention. As the audience member, I did my part.

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180. "Its a COMIC BOOK!!!! It don't NEED EXPLANATION!!!"
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JEEZ!!!

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216. "batman slammed him to the mirror and the mirror shattered"
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joker was sitting by that shattered mirror while taunting that cop to fight him.

  

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136. "RE: are you forgetting something???"
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>he had a shard of glass to that cops throat. he was obviously
>baiting the cop wit that "you wanna know which of your friends
>were cowards" talk to get the cop to come near him so he could
>surprise him. i swear people don't pay attention to shit
>anymore.
>
>>that was definitely one of the concrete points where the
>film
>>totally lost me, like, okay, this guy is just omnipotent for
>>the plot's sake.
>>
>>There was NO reason that the most dangerous person Gotham,
>or
>>the fictional world, had ever know, would be able to spring
>a
>>jail break. It was goddamn laughable. But all it took was
>a
>>shot of an overeager cop walking into an interrogation room,
>>and BAM! WE HAVE IT!
>>
>>THE JOKER IS TAKING HOSTAGES, MAKING BOMBS, AND ON THE LOOSE
>>AGAIN! HE MIGHT EVEN TAKE MULTIPLE RECREATIONAL CRUISERS IF
>>YOU'RE NOT CAREFUL!!!
>>
>>It was laughable ... but, somehow, a high water mark in
>>filmmaking?
>>
>>Puh-lease.

don't waste your time with these idiots. when cats start to argue the plausability of a fictional work, it's not a serious discussion that i can have. a man is dressing up as a bat serving street justice, did that part escape you schmoes?

  

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165. "Ether! n/m"
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170. "^^^The "It ain't supposed to be realistic" plea cop"
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LMAO!!!

>don't waste your time with these idiots. when cats start to
>argue the plausability of a fictional work, it's not a serious
>discussion that i can have. a man is dressing up as a bat
>serving street justice, did that part escape you schmoes?

NOPE!

FOH!

In that case, make The Joker a demon from hell
who can transform into a colt 45 and haunt
Bruce Wayne in his dreams.

You can't do that because it'd be unrealistic
and stupid

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15. "RE: LATE PASS - That Dark Knight bullshit was long as hell!! Its almost ..."
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i like the movie but i also felt the movie was a bit too long.

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18. "Huh, can't beleive I never realized that was Michael Jai White"
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Other than that, I completely disagree with the post. But to each his own.

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22. "what do you disagree with? That the characters were unbelievable?"
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That there were multiple plot holes?

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48. "Didn't find it too long. Didn't find the character particularly unrealis..."
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And I honestly don't remember any plot-holes. I rather enjoyed the film both times I saw it.

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219. "there's wasn't any "plot-holes""
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some people weren't paying attention to detail or rather want a movie to baby-spoon feed them every detail

  

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224. "No, you just cop PLEAS for the massive, gaping holes"
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>some people weren't paying attention to detail or rather want
>a movie to baby-spoon feed them every detail

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19. "It's definitely half an hour too long."
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And it doesn't hold up as well upon multiple viewings as I thought.

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21. "What do u mean by hold up?"
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I've only seen it once and that was in the theater.

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25. "I thought it would still be as good the second time as the first."
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I saw it on DVD the other day. It dragged even more than my encounter in theaters with it. I was less enamored with the majority of the film than I was the first time. The only thing I was still compelled by was Ledger's performance, but even that seemed less magical.

I am now 100% certain that Iron Man is the superior film. I saw that for the third time the other day and was still surprised, entertained, and blown away.

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27. "Yea, I guess I could see that"
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I STILL havent seen Iron Man, I gotta get on that

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37. "it seriously gets worse the second time."
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knowing what happens, every frivolous scene becomes that much more magnified. plus the suspense with Ledger's performance disappears, which was the best part of seeing it the first time.

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53. "getting worse on subsequent viewings is the kiss of death for me"
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No movie -- or at least no great movie -- should ever ever, ever ever get worse on extra viewings.

Sometimes you can't see it the first time (Virgin Suicide I'm looking *right at you*). Sometimes, though, you can watch a film and just know it's going to get worse. The Dark Knight was one of those films. I KNEW it wasn't going to get any better, and in all likelihood just get worse, the more I was going to watch it, and that is the KISS OF DEATH. A movie, any movie I would ever dare say is a "great" movie, needs to improve for (at least) a few times after I watch it the first time.

Dark Knight never will, never was, gonna do that.
The movie kinda sucked, box office aside.
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187. "wow is this really your criteria for a great movie?"
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>No movie -- or at least no great movie -- should ever ever,
>ever ever get worse on extra viewings.

There are plenty of movies I thought were great that I would never care to see again.

  

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195. "Seriously. Like after awhile its only natural to start to get bored."
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I gotta be careful not to wear certain movies out because of this.

  

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200. "UH. Wrong. You missed the point. LOL."
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>>No movie -- or at least no great movie -- should ever ever,
>>ever ever get worse on extra viewings.
>
>There are plenty of movies I thought were great that I would
>never care to see again.

But not because they actually got WORSE.

I could throw on Star Wars right now. I have no
drive to see it, because I've seen it 225,431 times,
but it will not be WORSE. I just seen it already.

Same with a lot of great movies.

Some movies, on the other hand, you actually
watch again like:

"WTF? This is some BULLSHIT!!!"

You realize you must have had your mind on your
date's thighs when you seen it, because you cannot
believe you enjoyed it at all.

TDK is one of them.

I seen it about 4 times now.

Definitely gets shittier with every viewing.

Ironman? Noticed a few flaws, but remains
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202. "any movie I truly love improves with repeated viewings"
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because there is detail and nuance which only comes to life when you watch and understand it as a whole, and not a narrative unfolding for the first time.

Think like Wes Anderson movies -- there is SO MUCH detail in his mis-en-scene, and his costuming, and in small interactions with his characters that run throughout the film, from start to finish, which gratify the viewer after they KNOW what's going to happen and they're familiar with the characters. Quickest example I can think of -- Max Fischer taking notes as Bill Murray is giving a speech in Rushmore that is in perfect caligraphy.

This is like a half second edit or something, where Max writes, "Best Chapel Speaker Ever" or something like that, and in that half second, which you would NOT notice on the first viewing, we get a look into both the characters of Max and Edward Blum. Stuff like that only comes to life upon REPEAT viewings.

Now, of course, there are flaws and problems which come to life, too, but any GOOD movie is going to grow in my estimation at least a few times after the original viewing. If I watch it a second time and primarily just notice gaffs and inconsistencies (which, considering how many I noticed first time with TDK...), that is NOT a good movie.

I think that's a pretty obvious statement. I don't see why you would even question that, unless of course you don't pay that much attention to film, in which case it makes perfect sense why you'd love The Dark Knight.

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205. "i'm ambivalent on Dark Knight"
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it's good, not great, but i'm not one for comic book movies anyway.

i just don't think a movie getting worse on a second viewing makes it not great. for example i just saw the french film 'a christmas tale' and i can guarantee i'd be bored to watch it a second time, but i thought it was a very good, nearly great film.

  

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75. "Oh, Ironman will *DEFINITELY* go down as better in the long run."
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Now that we have some distance from the Ledger death,
people are actually using their noodles.

When you stack the two next to each other there is absolutely
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94. "I've had Iron Man as better from the jump. But after repeated viewings....."
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...it's just been made that much clearer to me. The gap isn't nearly as close as some might think it is.

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193. "Iron Man was only better from the jump because it came out 1st"
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TDK slaughtered it & still does with repeated viewings. It's just not worth nitpickin to death to explain why. I still enjoy them both but Ironman has just as many if not more flaws than TDK. It all depends which flaws you wanna cop pleas for so its pointless to debate em.

  

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198. "If anything, the opposite is true."
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>TDK slaughtered it & still does with repeated viewings. It's
>just not worth nitpickin to death to explain why. I still
>enjoy them both but Ironman has just as many if not more flaws
>than TDK. It all depends which flaws you wanna cop pleas for
>so its pointless to debate em.

By coming out after, TDK was able to close out
the summer. And because of the Ledger death
it had so much hype that everyone was ready for
to love it.

'Ironman' had tons of flaws. Just not within
an order of magnitude as many as TDK. Not even
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228. "Reasons Iron Man is better than TDK:"
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1. The character development is better. All the way around. The Joker is the best character in TDK, and it's the LACK of his development that makes him intriguing.

2. The lead carries the film, not a supporting actor.

3. The special effects and action are better choreographed, better executed, and more exciting.

4. It doesn't have to be "dark" in order to create high stakes, tension, and the feeling that this took place in the real world. It's compelling, tense, AND funny.

5. Robert Downey Jr. gives the troubled playboy persona more variation than Christian Bale. Sorry, it's true. And I love Bale as an actor. But because the Batman flicks are so "dark," he can only sit there and brood, outside of the one pre-requisite scene where he goes into public and acts like he's having fun even when he's obviously not.

6. While Bridges didn't give a necessarily better performance (he didn't have to carry HIS movie), his villain is higher stakes for the world at large.

I already know what everyone's gonna say. The heart battery lasted too long, and the final battle was too short. I agree on both points. The flaws in Iron Man (a) aren't as glaring upon repeat viewings as TDK's, and (b) don't sink Iron Man at all on the whole.

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87. "RE: I thought it would still be as good the second time as the first."
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>I saw it on DVD the other day. It dragged even more than my
>encounter in theaters with it. I was less enamored with the
>majority of the film than I was the first time. The only thing
>I was still compelled by was Ledger's performance, but even
>that seemed less magical.
>
>I am now 100% certain that Iron Man is the superior film. I
>saw that for the third time the other day and was still
>surprised, entertained, and blown away.

I saw Iron man twice in the theaters and it definitely had a second viewing drop off for me.

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248. "I saw it for the first time two weeks ago & rewatched it twice"
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there's still more than enough in there for it to hold up to repeat viewing despite it being a bit long, whereas Ironman I enjoyed thoroughly but have no desire to watch a second time.

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64. "I liked it better the second time around"
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20. "Yup, still holds up nm"
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33. "Ledger's performace was over rated IMO"
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dude was good but like everything Batman related fanboys went crazy. people were handing him an oscar before the oscar movies even came out.

  

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38. "He had just died, hence the overhyping."
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I just watched it again opposite Jack Nicholson's
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181. "here we go again, lol"
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do i think ledger's performance was a great groundbreaking work of art? Nope.

But jack nicholson in batman played jack fuckin nicholson for the 419897893320 time in row.

I'll say I'm waaaaaay more partial to creepy/psycho joker than silly joker, so that may influence my opinion a lil bit.

That and the fact that I hate actors playing variations of the same lame shtick.

Except Samuel L. Jackson

  

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183. "Still missing the boat, sparky."
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>do i think ledger's performance was a great groundbreaking
>work of art? Nope.

Good.

>But jack nicholson in batman played jack fuckin nicholson for
>the 419897893320 time in row.

Wilin

No more than Tom Hanks was playing Tom Hanks
in 'Philadelphia'

Its still Tom Hanks, but its not just Tom Hanks

>I'll say I'm waaaaaay more partial to creepy/psycho joker than
>silly joker, so that may influence my opinion a lil bit.

You need to watch the original. Nicholson was scary
and creepy.

Difference is, he didn't have supernatural powers. He
was grounded in actual laws of biology and physics.
There's no way a mortal can be scarier than Freddy
Krueger. Ledger's Joker had no laws, at all. None.
Of course he was scarier.

>That and the fact that I hate actors playing variations of the
>same lame shtick.

Lame schtick?

Nicholson is one of the best actors of this generation,
doggie.

But maybe its just taste. I personally find the
Daniel Day Lewis 'I spent 20 years preparing for
this role to BECOME the character" a tad pretentious
and unnecessary. As long as the character is good and
believable, its all good.



>Except Samuel L. Jackson

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184. "see, i have seen tim burton's batman like 20 million times"
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and I've seen most of jack nicholson's films too. That joker wasn't scary at all. Jack Nicholson's Joker is only scary cuz he look like he smell like oldwhiteman.

He's been playing the same smug fat old white dude for a minute now. His 70's/early 80's shit? Buddy could act his ass off. Since then, he been chillin, HARD. Shit i think batman may have been the movie in which he seriously decided to cash that check.

As far as the joker having magical powers...dude just had hella blackberry time management skills, lol. Seriously though, shits a comic movie. Yeah, it makes nods at being realistic, kinda like the new james bond shit makes nods at being realistic. In either film, henchmen still shoot like shit, and the heroes recover quick as fuck from shit that really should have they asses laid up. Its a comic book flick. The villain usually got waaaaaay more ability/skill/funding than the hero.

I thought the shit was a fantastic flick, and better than Iron Man, even though Iron Man was great, too.



  

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185. "AHA! So this is about Kobe, isn't it?"
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Cuz you seem to have a personal problem with
Jack Nicholson.

I see it

LOL

>As far as the joker having magical powers...dude just had
>hella blackberry time management skills, lol. Seriously
>though, shits a comic movie. Yeah, it makes nods at being
>realistic, kinda like the new james bond shit makes nods at
>being realistic. In either film, henchmen still shoot like
>shit, and the heroes recover quick as fuck from shit that
>really should have they asses laid up. Its a comic book
>flick. The villain usually got waaaaaay more
>ability/skill/funding than the hero.

There's a gradient of unrealism in films

I tolerate quite a bit in a comic movie, but cmon.

>I thought the shit was a fantastic flick, and better than Iron
>Man, even though Iron Man was great, too.

Ironman was thousands fold better AND wasn't a sequel,
which meant it had to tell an origin story AND deliver
a compelling story of its own, both of which were dope.

Hell, I loved 'Batman Begins' and that movie fell
on its face in the 2nd half...it told the origin
extremely well, told a real crime story very poorly.

Ironman did all of that very well



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186. "I mean, nicholson can be great (about schmidt was good)"
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but he mailed that shit in in Batman, and the joker suffered as a result.

You know the thing about TDK and Ironman? In TDK, the hero was an afterthought...that movie was about the joker - not ledger, but the joker as a character, and the hero looked bland as fuck as a result. Matter of fact, the script called for the hero to be purely reactionary, which is why I kinda dig Batman and the joker stories...Batman is this great headbussa, but the Joker runs his ass just by really really not giving a fuck.

Ironman was all about Downey Jr. EVERYBODY else in that movie didn't matter.

This will be the one point in film and sports that you and I will always argue about, playboy.

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190. "LOL. Fair enough."
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>Ironman was all about Downey Jr. EVERYBODY else in that movie
>didn't matter.

Well, Ironman was about Downey, TDK was about Ledger.

Not sure why the latter is fundamentally any better
than the former.

They're both dominated by one great performance.

>This will be the one point in film and sports that you and I
>will always argue about, playboy.

True

>That's cool, tho...@ least these cats won't think I'm an alias
>of yours or some shit

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51. "only ... ONLY reason I liked the film was Ledger's performance"
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so maybe it was hyped up, but in the end it was actually the only thing this fucking film had going for it.

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43. "Auto L if you didn't see it on the big screen. Especially IMAX."
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44. "Good movies shouldn't REQUIRE that"
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Good movies are supposed to be good.




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45. "I guess, I really don't do comic book movies, I'll watch them..."
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on video or cable but I don't really break my neck to go see them at the theater. I used to be kind of a comic book head as a shorty but the movies usually disappointment me.

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52. "for like "the biggest movie ever," nobody should be copping pleas"
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talking about how you didn't see it on the right size screen? That's just hiding what bullshit it was.

I'll watch Die Hard on the seatback of the airplane seat in front of me tomorrow, and I'll get fucking hype off that shit, because Die Hard was untouchable. If anybody ever told me I needed to see Die Hard on a bigger screen, I'd do workouts before I watched it to make sure my heart was okay when all that went on in front of me.

Dark Knight? Nah.

  

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59. "'Gigli' is great while you're high and getting pussy"
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LOL @ niggas in here putting specific viewing conditions
and requirements in order to enjoy a film

LMAO

That's a seriously L right there

If its good, its good

Shouldn't be no screen size requirements

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79. "LMAO -- Titanic is good when you're on a date in middle school"
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85. "'Titanic' is amazing when you play it on an unplugged DVD player."
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Seriously

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141. "The scenes shot with the IMAX cams imo were worth it"
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And the movie would've been even worse w/o the China segment. There's certainly some room to trim but that scene wasn't 1 of em.

  

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46. "The subject line should have read"
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"That Dark Knight (movie) was (dope) as hell!! Its almost like..."


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49. "I enjoyed it"
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just watched it again a couple weeks ago

I do agree with you about how they threw the two-face story line in there...in my opinion they should have kept it to where they didn't know where he was , instead of bringing him back.

  

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50. "reasons why I forgive ThaTruth for being homophobic include..."
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but are not limited to:



this post.


God bless, man, that movie was a hot mess, and you're telling it way better than I could. It pretty much sucked, in the end, or actually maybe it didn't suck, because that's not exactly fair, but it was NOWHERE near as good as the box office or certain stans would have you believe.

Spit that heat.
Tell that truth.

Let PTP KNOW how actual movie-goers experienced this piece of shit.

It does what it does, but it doesn't do it well.

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57. "And now, Hating on TDK = Stickin' it to the PTP!"
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61. "Or just seeing shit for what it is."
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I been said that the early commentary was dominated
by fanboys who want to hump Heath Ledger...they skewed
the opinions ridiculously.

The rational people have since showed up

I been making these points since opening weekend

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62. "LMAO"
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67. "Actual movie-goers carried this film to a $530 milliion domestic gross"
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the second highest US gross ever, and close to $997 million worldwide. That would lead the reasonable person to believe that the actual movie-goers LOVED this movie. People who post on PTP sure didn't get that movie to those numbers.

Cats don't like it, fine. It's all good. But to act like this didn't go ver HUGE with the "actual movie-goer" is silly.

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69. "Guess what is #1?"
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Odd because I know women who watch 'The Notebook'
every single day of their lives and admit that 'Titanic'
was dogshit, regret seeing it in the theatres 17 times,
and openly admit it has zero replay value('Titanic' has
among the least replay values of any blockbuster ever)

Same can and will be said for 'The Dark Knight'

Once the dead actor hype dies down people
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74. "basically -- hating on Titanic is hipper than hating on Gump"
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Let the world know I was in on that TDK hate from JUMP!

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76. "Thing is, few hate on Jaws, Star Wars, ET, Shrek etc."
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Because those movies EARNED THEIR KEEP.

For the most part, they were GOOD MOVIES.

'Titanic' and 'The Dark Knight' were both some
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98. "I'll shit on ET"
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that lil alien bastard used to scare me when i was a little kid aha

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107. "ET's glowing finger >>>>> The Joker's pencil move"
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>that lil alien bastard used to scare me when i was a little
>kid aha

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217. "i hope you relaize that TDK's breaking BLUERAY records"
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>
>'Titanic' and 'The Dark Knight' were both some
>bullshit.
>
>That's why they have NO replay value AT ALL.
>
>
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223. "LOL. Bluray been out for 24 hours. STFU"
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>
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>>'Titanic' and 'The Dark Knight' were both some
>>bullshit.
>>
>>That's why they have NO replay value AT ALL.

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89. "The problem is you're just using anecdotal evidence"
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Shoot, I thought "Titanic" was crap too, but I don't have any illusions that my opinion of the film and the opinions of others I know are an accurate representation of how most people's opinion of the film even today. I've seen no evidence that its somehow universally hated.

>Same can and will be said for 'The Dark Knight'
>
>Once the dead actor hype dies down people
>will continue to see it for the trash that it is.

Well, as of now, months after it's been released, there's no "Dark Night" fatigue. The DVD sold three million copies in its first day or release, shattering just about every record. Those numbers don't suggest that the average movie-goer is now rejecting it.

Like I said, if you don't like it, cool. But for now, public opinion doesn't appear to be swaying your way.

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90. "Public opinion isnt swaying their way that's what has em mad"
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That's why I laugh at the irony of oe ever saying someone is mad in these threads - dude is clearly heated.

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100. "*wags Mutumbo finger*"
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>That's why I laugh at the irony of oe ever saying someone is
>mad in these threads - dude is clearly heated.

Shame on you projecting your anger at me.

Shame, shame, shame on you!

Let's just admit it -- You're a tad heated that your
favorite movie is getting exposed as being shitty.

Like I said -- the public buys all sorts of shit that
ends up being stupid. Hell, the Titanic DVD sold boatloads
too. Almost no one suggests that film has any replay value
at all. People waste their money on all types of stuff,
bad movies included.

To each his own. People can consume what they want.

In the meantime I'll continue making you feel bad
about your purchase, by spitting that there truth.


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116. "Thanks for playing"
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I'd be mad if you said Hoop Dreams was trash not tdk.

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118. "Thanks for supporing my cause with your rage"
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123. "Daredevil was the best comicbook movie of all time"
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TDK is second

ben afleck>>>>>>>>>> ledger and downey jr.

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158. "Talking about Satan = You're enraged"
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Admit it, doggy

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161. "Daredevil better tho....."
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101. "Titanic and The Dark Knight share an obvious common link..."
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...too fucking long. It's not like there were 3 hours of story to tell, like in other epic flicks. They just didn't wanna use the scissors in the editing room.

Sidenote: I'm actually someone who has said Titanic, after years of gathering hate, is back to being underrated. It's very corny, but it's better than multiple Best Pic winners in the last 20 years.

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128. "true and fair enough. n/m"
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249. "except that Titanic is 45 minutes longer and manages to make a real"
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life tragedy into a turgid chick flick with Leo shouting 'follow me down these steps, Rose'/'promise me now, Rose'/they've got you trapped, Rose'/'I enjoyed drawing your titties, Rose'/'I'm gonna die for you now but always remember me, Rose'/and on and on.

I will never sit through 3 hours and 15 minutes of Titanic again for the rest of my life.

I can't even attempt to understand someone who's already seen both watching Titanic over Dark Knight if given the choice.

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58. "you're an idiot"
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that shit banged, period

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66. "hahaha"
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if even rjcc can't join in on your hate......FAIL!

  

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126. "You put the "i" in idiot"
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60. "I thought it was good but.."
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Thu Dec-18-08 09:18 AM by x_amano_x

  

          

I wish they would have did the whole Two Face angle in the next movie instead of just throwing him in there, then killing him off right then and there. It would have been great to have set that up right around the end, but what we got was a waste of a great villain that would have probably held his own full length movie.

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63. "i thought it fuckin rawked"
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still does after my second viewing on DVD.

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65. "Exactly why I hate hype"
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cause it forces people to be a little more critical then they probably would be in a normal situation. I agree though - the movie ran too long. Two face should've been villain for next film. Other than that I thought it was the best comic book movie I've seen and one of the best films period of the year.

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68. "wrong"
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trying to reason on the "realism" of comic book movies....FAIL

and i love comic books.

and please don't be fooled, Joker is no punk. dude's whole persona is making you believe that he's harmless.

  

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71. "^^^The PTP "its not supposed to be realistic" plea cop"
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Thu Dec-18-08 11:49 AM by Orbit_Established

  

          

>and please don't be fooled, Joker is no punk. dude's whole
>persona is making you believe that he's harmless.

Not sure what that is but a plea cop.

I just wish they had done something stupid
like given him magical powers or something, because
he's was absurdly supernatural in the movie.

In reality, Orbit_Established would fuck the
joker up. I wish he would try to slam my head
on a pencil. I'd brake his bitch ass arm and stomp
that smile off his fucking face.

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77. "nah see, this is how an O_E v. Joker match up would go..."
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Thu Dec-18-08 11:21 AM by celery77

  

          

there would be an establishing shot showing you doing your thing, with Ledger approaching as Joker, then we would edit to something else, and when we returned you would be tied up and gagged on the floor, with the Joker now in a nurse's outfit with an atomic bomb strapped to his back that can also miraculously control the flow of downtown traffic.

Didn't you watch the movie?

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83. "*DEAD*"
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Thu Dec-18-08 11:35 AM by Orbit_Established

  

          

>there would be an establishing shot showing you doing your
>thing, with Ledger approaching as Joker, then we would edit to
>something else, and when we returned you would be tied up and
>gagged on the floor, with the Joker now in a nurse's outfit
>with an atomic bomb strapped to his back that can also
>miraculously control the flow of downtown traffic.
>
>Didn't you watch the movie?

Yup and between cuts the Joker has time to steal my Okayplayer login
and start three posts about how much I love Tarantino, am a republican,
and think there's no racism in sports.

Then in GD he posts a Jose3030 live stream of me tied up
and gagged with a hydrogen bomb taped to my
dick, with Nas's Ilmatic bumping in the background.

Not a stretch for the Joker.

Oh, and we have to find time for one of Ledger's
brilliant unscripted "genius improvisations" where he's freestyling
in the Nurse's costume to the 'The World is Yours' beat.

All while about to nuke the universe and controlling
downtown traffic.

And posting on Okayplayer.com.














































































































Man, this movie sucked.

Just...wow.

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88. "HAHAHA!"
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Yup, you watched the movie.

Oh shiiit ... Ledger freestyling over 'The World is Yours' ... damn I'm biting my lip hard!

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92. "ok, so you're saying"
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you can believe...

a dude who's crazy rich, dresses up as a bat, base jumps and parkours on the regular, no injuries, just covers his nose yet no one can recognize him, he's standing there one moment then you turn your back and he's gone out the window, no trace of him.

another dude, get's half his face blown off, still alive tho you can see inside of dude's skull, no one at the hospital thought to cover that up, said explosion and death of his girl turns District Attorney to life of crime, dude flips a coin to make his decisions.


but IN NO WAY can this "little" guy over power someone who's bigger than him!!!



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95. "Did you just compare The Joker to Royce Gracie?"
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>Royce Gracie would like to talk to you.

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105. "nice Joker laugh"
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you're whole point is that there's no way the Joker can beat up someone bigger than him. you basing that off the fact of how you think he looks (Heath was 6'1 by the way). people said the same thing about Royce when they first saw him.

you obviously know nothing of what you speak.

  

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108. "*Slams JRocc's Head on my Okaypencil*"
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Thu Dec-18-08 01:38 PM by Orbit_Established

  

          

>you're whole point is that there's no way the Joker can beat
>up someone bigger than him. you basing that off the fact of
>how you think he looks (Heath was 6'1 by the way). people
>said the same thing about Royce when they first saw him.

Go home and do some e-pushups.

In fact, do about 3,000 of them, then come back and try
to electronically slam my head on a pencil. I'll break
your e-arm quicker than I'd be able to break the Joker's
real arm. Seriously.

>you obviously know nothing of what you speak.

You're the one comparing a psychopath who spent most
of his adult life in an insane asylum to one of the
greatest martial artists who ever lived, who basically
trained his entire life and influenced families and
generations of fighters.







































































































































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Horrid.


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120. "where in the movie did they say he was in an insane asylum"
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most his adult life? i really dont remember i they did

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124. "He escaped in 'Batman Begins'"
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>most his adult life? i really dont remember i they did

At the end.

And he had to have been in there a while to have
all these homeboys that he had magical mind control
over in TDK.

LOL

And even if he wasn't in there for more than
a few years, he still aint' Royce Gracie.

Anyway you dice it, the Joker ain't slamming
a goddamn thing. I can guarantee I'd fuck
him up one on one with no weapons...and trust,
I'm a semi thug ass nigga who can throw nucks,
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137. "ooh i haven't seen batman begins in a while"
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thatd be why i dont remember

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227. "he didnt escape in batman begins"
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they never said that he escaped from anywhere
they said he's a new criminal theyre trying to catch
its nowhere said, mentioned or implied that he escaped from anywhere

  

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229. "If that's true, than the TDK is even worse than it is."
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>they never said that he escaped from anywhere
>they said he's a new criminal theyre trying to catch
>its nowhere said, mentioned or implied that he escaped from
>anywhere

Listen to Orbit cop PLEAS IN FAVOR of TDK:

IMO, the whole point of Arkham Asylum breaking
at the end of the BB is that there is a whole city
of crazy motherfuckers overunning Gotham that Batman
and the Gotham Police Dept will have to deal with,
the Joker being one.

It actually made perfect sense that way: Joker
was in Arkham stewing away plotting for a long
time. That would also explain why he was able
to forge so many friends and comrades: He might
have been manipulating people for a long time
while in Arkham Asylum building his empire.

If what you're saying is true, than Joker is
just some aimless psycho who somehow finds
time to put together a crime syndicate.

LOL

Notice how I'm copping pleas on TDK's BEHALF
here, and might be wrong.

Meaning it might be even shittier than I think
and boy is it shitty already.

Wow.

  

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125. "sigh"
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you've out stupid'd me. you win.

  

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110. "lmao, you didn't see Ledger armbar that one cop? classic BJJ technique!"
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114. "The Joker >>>>> Brock Lesnar"
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In fact, they brought Brock Lesnar on the
set and had a scene with him and Joker, but
then Ledger improvised and body slammed Lesnar,
injuring Lesnar's back and ruining the chances
for any real cool action sequence.

That's when they put the pencil scene it.

The logic was: "Hell, if he can body slam
Brock Lesnar, he can do the Pencil trick
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70. "Your not going to respond to me but here goes anyway"
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1. Yeah the movie was kinda long, they should of kept most of the two face stuff for the 3rd movie.

2. Joker was scrawny? Well he never had his shirt off or anything, I dont know about that. Besides you need to be brolic to beat people up now? None of them Gracie cats are brolic and I'm sure they could run thru half of american gladiators if they wanted. But ok lets go to your next issue

3. Batman does not have super strength. He is wearing some type of device on his gauntlets that actually bent the gun not his own power. You can see him using the same gauntlets to cut open the van that Scarecrow was riding around in. He also made mention to Alfred and Fox that the suit was too heavy. But you was watching and paying attention to the movie right.

4. yeah they need to dead the growling voice, but Christian Bale's normal speaking voice is mad regular. So I dont know

and oh you are sooooooo coool.

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72. "LOL @ the voice plea cop"
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>2. Joker was scrawny? Well he never had his shirt off or
>anything, I dont know about that. Besides you need to be
>brolic to beat people up now? None of them Gracie cats are
>brolic and I'm sure they could run thru half of american
>gladiators if they wanted. But ok lets go to your next issue

Dog, the Joker is not Bruce Wayne. He did not spend
his life learning martial arts beating niggas up in Tibet.

He spent his life being a crazy muthafucka.

Not to mention learning how to manipulate people
and teach them how to wire bombs all over hospitals.

Somewhere in between that he found a way to be able to
toss motherfuckers and and slam people's heads on pencils.

LOL.

FOH

>3. Batman does not have super strength. He is wearing some
>type of device on his gauntlets that actually bent the gun not
>his own power. You can see him using the same gauntlets to cut
>open the van that Scarecrow was riding around in. He also made
>mention to Alfred and Fox that the suit was too heavy. But you
>was watching and paying attention to the movie right.

>4.yeah they need to dead the growling voice, but Christian
>Bale's normal speaking voice is mad regular. So I dont know

See, this is what I'm talking about.

The voice was a complete abomination and is
one of the worst decisions I've ever seen on film.
Dont' make excuses. It almost entirely ruined the
Character. Nobody in the theatre could take Batman
seriously.

The reason why people forgave it, again, is because
heath ledger died and it rendered any substantive
criticism of the film "insensitive"

Now that lots of other people have died and the
Ledger effect has worn off people are repsonding
appropriately to the film.

It had some cool scenes but was dogshit overall.

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73. "lol"
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this retardation is hilarious

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78. "Let's do an XBOX vs PS3 analogy"
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Dark Knight = PS3. Everyone wants it to succeed, so much so
that they won't admit that it sucks. It will still sell more systems
worldwide, but that's because of hype, tradition, brand, and because
people don't want to admit that they have an inferior product. All
flash, no substance at all.


Ironman = XBOX 360
Less hyped, less funded, less press. Better games, better
performance, and in the long run, will define this generation
of video games. Less flash, more substance.


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97. "you also suck at analogy"
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102. "But am GREAT at making you mad"
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I'd rather be good at that than at analogies

And I'm great at that

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119. "everyone needs goals"
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i'm so not mad my dude. i actually thought Iron Man was better, but i digress.

i just think your reason for not liking the movie is ridiculous.

you amuse me clown. how could i be mad at you?

  

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147. "I could feel his blood pressure go up from here"
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133. "sure I will..."
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>1. Yeah the movie was kinda long, they should of kept most of
>the two face stuff for the 3rd movie.

agreed.

>2. Joker was scrawny? Well he never had his shirt off or
>anything, I dont know about that. Besides you need to be
>brolic to beat people up now? None of them Gracie cats are
>brolic and I'm sure they could run thru half of american
>gladiators if they wanted. But ok lets go to your next issue

It has already been pointed out, the Gracies are a family of trained martial artists, Batman is supposed to be a trained martial artist, I know of no previous accounts in other movies nor the comics of the Joker being this super-duper martial artist or a badass physically.

>3. Batman does not have super strength. He is wearing some
>type of device on his gauntlets that actually bent the gun not
>his own power. You can see him using the same gauntlets to cut
>open the van that Scarecrow was riding around in. He also made
>mention to Alfred and Fox that the suit was too heavy. But you
>was watching and paying attention to the movie right.

I guess.

>4. yeah they need to dead the growling voice, but Christian
>Bale's normal speaking voice is mad regular. So I dont know

I don't remember his voice being that bad in Batman Begins...

>and oh you are sooooooo coool.

oh, I know.

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146. "this is killing me"
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dude, the Gracie point plain and simple is that you don't have to be big, to be able to fight or take down someone else down who's bigger than you. no one said that the Joker was trained his whole life in BJJ. for you to assume that cuz he's a "scrawny" dude, he can't fight is totally stupid. not only that, but it's exactly what he wants you to think. don't you think everyone he's ever come up against has said, "who's this clown", right before they were killed.

also, you have no idea about the Joker's background (as you have made abundantly clear). Joker has physically fought kats and held his own in the comics more than a couple times. yes, he's not a brute and is not known for his strength, but one on one, you don't want to underestimate him. you acting like dude stood in a circle of 100 kats and just knocked them all out.

also, Joker is apparently a genius as seen by the fact that he makes his own Joker Venom (gas, liquid, acid, etc). how does he know how to do this? who knows? again, that's the point, who really knows the truth about the Joker and where he's from and what he knows? he's been lying about his past since forever.

but according to you, he's been in Arkham Asylum "most of his life".

c'mon fam, you are freakin ridiculous. why am i even falling for this? i have work to do.

  

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149. "here goes"
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In regards to the gracie thing yes I understand that their level of training surpasses joker. However here are some things you should know

Joker has had many origins in the comics, none of them are set in stone. I mean one has him being a failed stand up comedian. One has him as a low level thug for the mob. One has him as a brillant chemist. One has him as being some force of nature from the bowls of hell. With that said Joker has shown in the comics (and movies) to be adept at the following

- working and using small arms with a high degree of ability (hand guns, machine guns, light machine guns)

- creating and using bombs and explosives (plastic explosives, grenades, homemade bombs)

- making and using chemical weapons

So if he can do all that and his origin is so muddled...I mean isnt it possible for him to beat someone up if he wanted to? He doesnt the same way a mob boss of so many years doesnt get his hands dirty. He has people to do that for him.

Your making it sound like pushing a 200 pound man down to the ground (or table for this instance) is something reserved for elite green berets or Hulk Hogan or something.


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156. "The Joker in TDK is actually Megatron"
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That was the worst post in this entire thread,
and that is saying a lot.

Just because there are thousands of Joker origins
doesn't mean this one has to be all of them.

And its got shit to do with whether or not
its at all possible for Joker to be routinely
fucking people up in hand to hand combat. He
can't, and shouldn't be to. ThaTruth made an
excellent observation.

Please, STFU

>In regards to the gracie thing yes I understand that their
>level of training surpasses joker. However here are some
>things you should know
>
>Joker has had many origins in the comics, none of them are set
>in stone. I mean one has him being a failed stand up comedian.
>One has him as a low level thug for the mob. One has him as a
>brillant chemist. One has him as being some force of nature
>from the bowls of hell. With that said Joker has shown in the
>comics (and movies) to be adept at the following
>
>- working and using small arms with a high degree of ability
>(hand guns, machine guns, light machine guns)
>
>- creating and using bombs and explosives (plastic explosives,
>grenades, homemade bombs)
>
>- making and using chemical weapons
>
>So if he can do all that and his origin is so muddled...I mean
>isnt it possible for him to beat someone up if he wanted to?
>He doesnt the same way a mob boss of so many years doesnt get
>his hands dirty. He has people to do that for him.
>
>Your making it sound like pushing a 200 pound man down to the
>ground (or table for this instance) is something reserved for
>elite green berets or Hulk Hogan or something.

  

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162. "RE: here goes"
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>- working and using small arms with a high degree of ability
>(hand guns, machine guns, light machine guns)
>
>- creating and using bombs and explosives (plastic explosives,
>grenades, homemade bombs)
>
>- making and using chemical weapons

That's exactly my point, in the scenes we're talking about the Joker didn't use ANY of that stuff, he just physically overpowered people and whooped their ass with basically his bare hands, something he has NOT been known for.

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164. "listen you seem to the the more level headed of the duo here"
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your girlfriend O_E just keeps raising her bloodpressure and I aint responding to her ass.

I was merely pointing out that it is not outside the realm of Joker being able to smack someone around ONCE in a blue moon. He only physically hit what 2 people in the whole movie?

We already agreed that the major problem with this movie is length and the incorrect use of Two face a very major batman villian. The stuff about bending the gun and joker mollywopping someone are both small and trivial to the big picture. They only lasted 2 seconds of film time yes?


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80. "i haven't even seen it yet. *ducks*"
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81. "had Ledger not died, it would have been trashed..."
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sadly, Ledger's death gave life to this terrible film.

highlights of the movie:

1). the score.
2). Batman looking over the view on top of the building in China and jumping off it
3). Batman jumping and landing on top of the white van
4). Joker's stories of how he got his scars, and the accompanying music
5). The truck being lifted up in the air.
3). The opening bank heist sequence

thats all folks! ---> http://www.alexross.com/FF8.jpg

too much exposition and not enough storytelling.
too much explaining of the plot/theme by the characters instead of acting
fight sequences sucked ass. again Batman was a trained ninja. wouldn't have known it in this movie.
the main character of the movie, batman, was lame
couldn't make out what the f*ck Alfred was saying half the time with his accent.
rachel was not hot
the 2-face character was not necessary, and really doesn't even warrant a storyline in a 3rd installment. what? he is gonna flip a coin for 2 and half hours in the next flick?


at this point, With Ledger now deceased, as well as the Joker character, there is no interest to see another Batman movie, unless you are a fanboy who faps off to Rachel and cried when she got deep fried in the Dark Knight.

  

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84. "nailed it."
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86. "^^^^LAVA"
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96. "The part you REALLY nailed is this right here:"
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>too much explaining of the plot/theme by the characters
>instead of acting

If I had to hear another speech about "You're Gotham's white knight, Harvey. You can do the things I can't. You're a symbol of good in this city" blah blah blah, I would've died of cringing.

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99. "wow"
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>1). the score.
>2). Batman looking over the view on top of the building in
>China and jumping off it
>3). Batman jumping and landing on top of the white van
>4). Joker's stories of how he got his scars, and the
>accompanying music
>5). The truck being lifted up in the air.
>6). The opening bank heist sequence

yep, yep, yep, yep, yep and yep.

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106. "rachel not being hot is my biggest"
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christ, is it that hard to get a hot chick as a major character?

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111. "To be honest, her entire existence was a trainwreck"
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Even in Batman Begins she was stupid, but I wrote
that off to it being Katie Holmes.

Turns out her character just sucked.

When she died, almost no one cared.


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251. "that's what was shocking about this one, Pieface made Holmes look"
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like Vanity in Last Dragon by comparison in terms of both looks and personality.

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130. "my favorite part of the movie, "I guess the Joker told you to kill me......"
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"too, huh?"

"No, I'm supposed to kill the bus driver."

"bus driver?"

BAM!!!!

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82. "" Mr. Bigsbey, what exactly is it you hate about the Dark Knight?""
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" how much time you got buddy? he's got a stupid voice, the pointless trip to China, the good guy gets his ass kicked by dogs the whole time, rachel 2 has a play-dough face, speech after speech about 'courage,honor,valor,heroics' , the cliche crooks, that dumb dumb dumb sonar shit, the cringe-inducing scene of Harvey getting the gun pulled on him in court ("buy American" hehehe) , an anti-climatic climax.....


















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91. "LMAO...never fails."
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109. "Postjack: I HAVE been convinced that Ledger deserves the Oscar talk..."
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...because like his performance or not, or believe that his death is the only thing causing the hype for this film or not, his performance is by far the most watchable part of the film. Although the magic isn't there as strongly on repeat viewings, it's the best performance in the film, it carries the film, and it has blinded about 500 million dollars' worth of audience members to some plotholes and flaws within the flick. When Ledger's on screen, you watch. When Ledger's not on screen, it's some boring Batman/Harvey/Rachel nonsense, full of speeches and a lack of suspense.

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115. "The one thing I feel guilty about when dissing TDK"
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Is that I have to come across as shitting on Ledger.

I'm not.

He was great.

I stand by my contention that Nicholson's Joker
was much better(my argument that Nicholson's
Joker had far more range and had actual mortal
boundaries is completely unetherable), but Ledger
was damn good, and Oscar nods have gone to worse
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122. "See that's whassap."
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>
>Is that I have to come across as shitting on Ledger.
>
>I'm not.
>
>He was great.

I disagree that Jack was better, though I get your point that you think the Joker character was better written in Burton's Batman. I don't agree, but that's fine.

I totally understand everyone's gripes with the movie...and no, it doesn't hold up as well in repeat viewing as Iron Man does, but I still think it's a much, much, much better than average film...and Ledger deserves the Oscar because he stole the movie with a great character (much like Bardem in No Country for Old Men).

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131. "Well, the difference between Bardem and Ledger..."
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... is Bardem was surrounded by other great performances in a fantastically-made, tightly knit flick and STILL managed to walk away with the film. Ledger didn't really have THAT much competition... but you're right that that is the basic reasoning.

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132. "odd, because I thought Ledger was more analogous"
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to Daniel Day Lewis in There Will Be Blood. NCFOM, I think, is a great movie that Bardem made even better. TWBB was an okay movie with one great character.

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250. "I agree on the Daniel Plainview analogy, personally I think Ledger"
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should get a Best Actor nomination, rather than Supporting, he does much more of the heavy-lifting than any other character including Batman and carries an admittedly 15-30 minutes too long film......although I think Dark Knight was a much better overall movie than There Will Be Blood.

Even shots without actual dialogue, like him driving the cop car with his head out the back window like a dog or him waddling out of the hospital in that nurses' outfit before blowing the place up.....were some of the most impactful moments of the film.

The way you almost began to see the sense in his whole chaos-and-disorder philosophy when talking about 'schemers', when he was telling different tall tales of how he got the scars on his face, the fact that he developed that facial tic because a man with severe scarring on the insides of his cheeks would probably spend much of the time touching either side with his tongue, etc......just a great performance played big but with a real attention to detail.

Now if you want to say his character was more developed in the first Batman I guess you could (not sure his backstory is ever fully explained in either film) but to me Ledger's performance dwarves Nicholson's......and I'm a much bigger Jack fan than a Heath Ledger one.

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134. "I don't even get involved with Oscar talk because half the shit that..."
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gets nominated I have never seen and have no interest in seeing. The academy is a bunch of old ass white people, I don't expect them to have the same tastes in movies as me.

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135. "^^^Tha Truth = THE RACER X of PTP!!!!!"
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>gets nominated I have never seen and have no interest in
>seeing. The academy is a bunch of old ass white people, I
>don't expect them to have the same tastes in movies as me.

Nigga comes on every few episodes drops FIRE and DIPS

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

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139. "Fair enough."
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145. "I don't care about the Oscars, but I agree Heath was gold"
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only thing worth watching the film for.

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182. "was it ledger's performance, or the character?"
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cuz, really, i think the joker is a great great character, especially when contrasted against Batman. I can't shit on Ledger's performance - he was great in the movie, but i think the character is equally as good

  

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238. "The ultimate villain."
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235. "I was so proud that someone let a villain be so dark in a big movie."
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That's why I like these Batman movies. They're honest.

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236. "LOL. Silence of the Lambs was a big movie too."
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It didn't cost as much because it was actually
good and didn't have bullshit scenes with Hannibal
Lechter invading foreign countries, but it was a
big, very popular movie, where the main villain
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140. "Jack's Joker more creative.....GOOD!!!"
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unlike Ledger's Joker who apparently doesn't sleep, just sets bombs in hospitals/boats/people every minute of the day.

Poisonous balloons, contaminating products, goons w/ swords >>>>> explosives. I'm not kidding

Jack was just as captivating on screen as Ledger...go back and watch again. The scene where he gasses everyone to get to Basinger? CLASSIC. The commercials? CLASSIC.

This scene is better than anything in Dark Knight:

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142. "RE: LATE PASS - That Dark Knight bullshit was long as hell!! Its almost ..."
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basically everything negative being said here can be disproven by someone with logic other than the length
that is a subject of preference, and i think in this films case its length is deserved
its obvious youre trying be an asshole or an elitist, probably both
its also obvious that youre not the target audience for this film and went in watching it with your panties bunched -- since you just now caught it on dvd

  

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150. "why do folks who defend this movie take criticism so personally?"
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>its obvious youre trying be an asshole or an elitist, probably
>both
>its also obvious that youre not the target audience for this
>film and went in watching it with your panties bunched --
>since you just now caught it on dvd

this is a movie that INVITED the criticism, it wanted to be called a masterpiece, it wanted to be called an epic, a classic. Quite simply, there's too many errors in the script and in the overall film itself to keep it from getting the total praise it was aiming for.

Now for some reason, every person I've tried to explain this to gets extremely defensive and starts in on me in similar fashion to how you did here, "fag, that movie was sick you just didn't get it dude"
but there's nothing to get. If you want a superhero movie that deals with heroes' efforts being unappreciated, X-Men 2 is better. If you want a superhero movie about a rich billionaire who feels obligated to use his wealth to improve the world, Iron Man is better. If you want a superhero movie about a hero dealing with the conflict of being a city's guardian while being in love at the same time, Spider-Man 2 is better. And most importantly, if you want just a good fun accessible non-pretentious Batman flick, Batman Begins is significantly better.

The usual dickhead responses to Dark Knight criticism just lead me to believe that Dark Knight defenders know deep down that the criticisms hold weight. I swear, I'll never see another movie at midnight like this again, and I especially won't let myself get so hyped about a movie ever again either.

  

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151. "!!! this is Miami vs. Texas, '91 Cotton Bowl level swagger stomping"
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>but there's nothing to get. If you want a superhero movie that
>deals with heroes' efforts being unappreciated, X-Men 2 is
>better. If you want a superhero movie about a rich billionaire
>who feels obligated to use his wealth to improve the world,
>Iron Man is better. If you want a superhero movie about a hero
>dealing with the conflict of being a city's guardian while
>being in love at the same time, Spider-Man 2 is better. And
>most importantly, if you want just a good fun accessible
>non-pretentious Batman flick, Batman Begins is significantly
>better.

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155. "Yep. Post over at that point, really."
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I'm not sure whether Batman Begins is really better... I took issue with that movie in some big ways as well. But that's a different post. At least Batman Begins wasn't 2:45.

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159. "The first half of Batman Begins is superb."
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>I'm not sure whether Batman Begins is really better... I took
>issue with that movie in some big ways as well. But that's a
>different post. At least Batman Begins wasn't 2:45.

The second half - meh

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152. "Thing is it goes both ways"
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I've seen fanboys act like women and crtics act as if it is their sole duty to tear this movie down. Somewhere in between are people who liked it and didn't that can disagree about their tastes and kim. Then there are you, OE wrongthink and rjcc.

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153. "don't compare me to OE. I don't lose sleep over this movie"
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he lives to rip this movie apart, I just don't think it was very good.

  

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154. "I couldnt tell"
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You cosigned Jambone when he said "at this point, With Ledger now deceased, as well as the Joker character, there is no interest to see another Batman movie, unless you are a fanboy who faps off to Rachel and cried when she got deep fried in the Dark Knight."

What country are y'all livin in? Objectively speaking, the movie has been mentioned in many top ten critics lists (lists that have just been made; several months after the hype), and DVD sales are crazy. To ignore that more than just fanboys liked this film and are excited for it's third installment is silly - oe level silly.

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157. "LMMFAO @ "objectively speaking""
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>You cosigned Jambone when he said "at this point, With Ledger
>now deceased, as well as the Joker character, there is no
>interest to see another Batman movie, unless you are a fanboy
>who faps off to Rachel and cried when she got deep fried in
>the Dark Knight."
>
>What country are y'all livin in? Objectively speaking, the
>movie has been mentioned in many top ten critics lists

Motherfucka, those are CRITICS!!!! They are *by nature*
SUB-JECTIVE.

LMMFAO!!!!

And these same brilliant critics was giving the last
INDIANA JONES MOVIE GOOD REVIEWS when EVERYONE ADMITS
IT WAS SOME BULLSHIT.

ANd here's the kicker -- it STILL MADE TONS OF MONEY
OFF STANS and HYPE ALONE!!!

And it STILL is going to sell lots of DVDS...more than
plenty of movies better.

So miss me with this "ticket sales are relevant"
nonsense.

Man up - TDK was some garbage.

And you can't hide behind no fanboy critics or
from box office sales. They're repeatedly demonstrated
they say nothing about quality.

Beautiful thing is this: O_E loves when the next
man eats. The TDK niggas should EAT <--GOOD FOR THEM!

YUP! GOOD!

I'm just pointing out a shitty movie when I see one.

This movie was shitty.

The real issue is this one:


































































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160. "RE: LMMFAO @ "objectively speaking""
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>Motherfucka, those are CRITICS!!!! They are *by nature*
>SUB-JECTIVE.

Come on. Seriously? I was saying objectively speaking regarding my thoughts on the subject. The subject being whether tdk has fallen off in the view of the general public since the hype has worn down. It'd be subjective if I said no it hasn't - I still like the movie. It's objective when I consider factors that have nothing to do with my personal opinion. Critcs and dvd sales are factors separate from my opinion.


>And these same brilliant critics was giving the last
>INDIANA JONES MOVIE GOOD REVIEWS when EVERYONE ADMITS
>IT WAS SOME BULLSHIT.

Again, I didn't use critics' opinion to prove that the film was great - only that it is still relevant outside of the opinion of "fanboy". And it is.


>ANd here's the kicker -- it STILL MADE TONS OF MONEY
>OFF STANS and HYPE ALONE!!!

That is wrong and you know it - but this is fun for you so I won't ruin it.


>And it STILL is going to sell lots of DVDS...more than
>plenty of movies better.
>
>So miss me with this "ticket sales are relevant"
>nonsense.

When taking into account what I was responding to they are - just read above. Why are you so furious with me though?


>Man up - TDK was some garbage.

You feeling that way is fine. I thought it was a flawed yet still a quality flick. I'm tryna find out why you're so mad about it running through the thread like a child trying to stay awake past his beadtime.


>And you can't hide behind no fanboy critics or
>from box office sales. They're repeatedly demonstrated
>they say nothing about quality.

Again, what I responding to had nothing to do with quality.


>Beautiful thing is this: O_E loves when the next
>man eats. The TDK niggas should EAT <--GOOD FOR THEM!
>
>YUP! GOOD!
>
>I'm just pointing out a shitty movie when I see one.
>
>This movie was shitty.
>
>The real issue is this one:

I'm glad you like how niggas eat (kinda gay but whatever). You're not special - the two face character wasn't needed and nolan, while trying to cram everything in, told us details instead of showing them. Thise were the two major flaws. For me, and many others, they didn't take away from my enjomment. For you they did. So the real issue is - why are YOU mad? Even dude above, who doesn't like the film, says you actin silly. You as a supporter of Reggie Bush should know how annoying hype backlash is. It's worse than fanboy dicksuckin imo.

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166. "RE: why do folks who defend this movie take criticism so personally?"
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actually my comments were in complete disregard to either sides argument
and i really dont think batman begins was better, although my personal opinion
i like the tone of knight...it is a grimey ass movie...none of the other films you mentioned are on the same vibe
iron man has a comedy aspect to it to me...simply not as cool
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167. "I was gettin head when I saw it so it didn't last long enough"
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169. "."
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171. "TDK was jive long but I dug the themes"
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There's the obvious conflict between Joker and Batman over the extremes people are willing to go to. Can a man with limits defeat a man without any?

There's the theme of anarchy vs order... Joker versus the legal order of Gotham as well as versus the criminal order of organized crime. Like Alfred said, some people just wan to see everything burn and they're the most dangerous people out there.

Then there was the issue of iconography that's continued from Batman Begins... how Bruce Wayne is able to still retain some sanity by creating an image bigger than himself that can appear unyielding and ever-vigilant (as suggested by Raas Al Ghoul). As a person, he can show his warts but Batman is so effective because he seems super human.

Part of Harvey Dent's downfall is the fact that he's living an unsustainable image... like the ex-governor of New York, he's supposed to be indelible but every human has flaws. Dents flaws finally come out when the world doesn't work as he thought and the Joker suggests the anarchy of chance is the true way.

Exploring these ideas is likely what plumped TDK up but I'll watch it again and see.

Ironman, however, didn't have these kind of layers to me. The plot was straightforward and not particularly intricate, but I guess that was the goal with this setup movie. Maybe there'll be a bit more in the future.

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239. "I liked Iron Man, it's just not the same kind of movie as TDK."
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I don't really need to see it more than a few times, if that. And, mostly for the special effects and Robert Downey. I liked that the film wasn't bullshit-focused, but it's still much lighter than Batman.

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241. "Exactly. 'Ironman' is good, while 'TDK' is a pricey horror movie"
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>I don't really need to see it more than a few times, if that.
>And, mostly for the special effects and Robert Downey. I liked
>that the film wasn't bullshit-focused, but it's still much
>lighter than Batman.

Batman was a well dressed Nightmare on Elm Street
that was about 55 minutes too long and had hype

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174. "you're not paying attention. That gun bending wasn't Bats."
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He had a hydraulic thing on his arm that helped him do it. They show it retracting after he tosses the gun.

fka nope

  

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175. "I havent read these long posts but they shoulda left Two Face out."
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on some set it up for next time and develop it more type shit. The problem with DK was that it wasnt just one movie, it was one and a half. Even with that problem being had though, it was definitely still very good. Not a masterpiece of epic proportions, but Ledger was great and his performance will be remembered for a long time (even though his performance in brokeback mountain sons it all over the place...)

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178. "Hold on, let me change into my nice slacks real quick"
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Because you just took it to church

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179. "*passes collection plate*"
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>Because you just took it to church

Cmon

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188. ""the movie was too long""
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is basically my criticism of 99% of the films I've seen in the last 10 or so years. Whatever happened to the 90-100 minute banger? EVERY freakin movie these days is 2 hours and up.. then you got monsters like Benjamin Button (which i saw, which is actually good, but is pushing THREE hours) and Che (which I didn't see) and it feels like filmmakers are getting more and more self-indulgent.

I miss succinct, concise films... 95 minutes is like the perfect length to hold my attention

  

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189. "^^^^^^^^^^^^^"
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196. "I was almost ready to kill Benjamin Button myself"
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>is basically my criticism of 99% of the films I've seen in
>the last 10 or so years. Whatever happened to the 90-100
>minute banger? EVERY freakin movie these days is 2 hours and
>up.. then you got monsters like Benjamin Button (which i saw,
>which is actually good

It is good but I almost pulled a Richard Pryor & yelled, "GET TO THE PART BOUT THE DIRT!!!"

There were several people next to me already crying so I figured it was best to save it.

  

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203. "the Rule of Two and a Quarter, and I stand by it"
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if your movie runs longer than 2h15m, you better have a DAMN GOOD REASON. I don't even care if it's nothing but titty and sports highlights, you better have a REAL REASON why that movie should run longer than 2h15m.

Every single movie that runs longer than TWO AND A QUARTER starts out with an automatic negative review. I don't care who's in it, who directed it, or what it's about. You begin with a negative score.

There's a short short list of movies longer than 2h15m that I consider great, and almost every single other one, I can say without even watching them again -- shoulda edited more.

I could probably post-jack this, too, cuz my list is cruelly short:

Godfather 1+2
Apocalypse Now (NOT the Director's Cut)
LOTR
Gangs of New York
The Aviator (Scorsese gets lots of passes from me)

and that's seriously all that comes to mind right now, actually.

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206. "scarface maybe?"
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211. "'Scarface' is THE snippet movie of our time"
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Don't nobody sit down and watch that shit
front to back more than once, because its actually
not that goddamn good

Great scenes and quotes though


  

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253. "how are you gonna mention half Scorsese flicks and not Goodfellas?"
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personally I've come to terms with the fact that Gangs of New York kinda sucked and The Aviator didn't leave a deep impression on me.......Goodfellas, on the other hand, is a Top 5-10 personal all-time (although it can be argued that the eighties segment drags ever-so-slightly but only because the actual growing-up-in-the-mafia-and-later-robbing-folks-and-partying is more entertaining than cocaine-fueled paranoia and the inevitable bust).

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256. "Goodfellas is one of the best films ever made, period."
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257. "Indeed."
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210. "basically. I get furious when movies like Knocked Up are 2+ hours"
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212. "i assumed it was because we have so many hour long shows now"
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i guess they feel that length is one of the things that sets film apart from TV

i dont know

  

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220. "yet people hate on the latest bond flick for being too short"
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226. "No, it was just garbage"
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191. "I just watched it again, dude playing Lt/Commissioner Gordon..."
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is the worst actor EVER. where the hell did they get him from?

And how did dude get the cell phone in his stomach?

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194. "Gary Oldman is the worst actor ever fam? Really?"
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Maybe you didn't like his performance in TDK. Personally I thought it was second best to Heath. The subpar performance for me was Bale compared to what he did in Batman Begins. And Aaron Eckhart gets a little carried away with the screaming every once in awhile. Especially as 2 Face. As far as G.O. tho. Maybe his methods aint your cup of tea or maybe you just haven't seen him in enough flicks.

I have a hard time believing you'd consider him the worst actor ever after seeing The Professional.

  

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197. "No, he's right. Oldman is *supposed* to be good."
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It don't mean he's actually good

>Maybe you didn't like his performance in TDK. Personally I
>thought it was second best to Heath. The subpar performance
>for me was Bale compared to what he did in Batman Begins.

That's because his character was ass.


>And
>Aaron Eckhart gets a little carried away with the screaming
>every once in awhile. Especially as 2 Face.

Two face was a complete trainwreck as a whole.
Everything about him.

As far as G.O.
>tho. Maybe his methods aint your cup of tea or maybe you just
>haven't seen him in enough flicks.

Or maybe the people who have been overrating him all
these years are wrong

>I have a hard time believing you'd consider him the worst
>actor ever after seeing The Professional.

Doesn't matter -- why should I use shit he did
10 years ago as evidence that he doesn't suck today?

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225. "Wow Gary Oldman is a bad actor now?"
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199. "this post is a giant mess, a huge clusterfuck of bullshit"
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tdk was a good movie thats about 20-30 minutes too long other than that there werent any major problems. all that other shit you bitching about means you shouldnt watch comic book movies especially batman movies.

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201. "^^^A MAN. WITH. S-E-N-S-I-T-I-V-I-T-Y."
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>tdk was a good movie thats about 20-30 minutes too long

No, about an hour

> other
>than that there werent any major problems.

The length actually feeds several problems,
like the Two-Face horrid storyline

all that other shit
>you bitching about means you shouldnt watch comic book movies
>especially batman movies.

Than why did I like 'Ironman' so much?

Wanna know why?

Cuz 'Ironman' was actually a good, fun,
interesting film.

Not long, dry, take-myself-too-seriously drab
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204. "the Iron Man knife is a sharp one - I liked that movie much more, too"
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here is my one beef with Iron Man:



*SPOILERS (like I really need it, but...)*


In the final fight with the giant evil Iron Man thing or whatever, there's a bit where Tony Starks flies way up into the sky to taunt Obadiah about how he had solved the freezing problem, and Obadiah is like, "What freezing problem?"

Then Obadiah plummets to earth and

...

we never actually see Obadiah crash. I'm guessing the effects shot was too difficult to execute to satisfaction.

That's it. That's my one and only beef with Iron Man. I love everything else about it. If only I could say the same for TDK...

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209. "My beef with Ironman"
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I mean, maybe I wasn't following, but the
nigga trusted Gweneth Paltrow a tad too much.

Bitch was just walking in on the nigga while he
was building nuclear bombs, bringing him cookies and
milk and shit.

Cmon

I mean, goddamn

They coulda developed her origin a bit better.
Maybe there was a real reason he trusted her
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207. "basically."
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213. "TDK = Favre. Ironman = Pennington"
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Favre makes more money, has more fanfare but
isn't any better than Pennington when you
actually sit down and look at their performances.
People just need Favre to be better for their
conscience because its a better STORY than
Pennington. Unfortunately, Favre is actually
pretty shitty at times, thought its taboo to
publically talk about his flaws.

And of course, Favre makes the pro bowl and gets
all sorts of praise, while Pennington is busy
actually being an MVP candidate on the humble

Goddamn that's an etherous analogy

I know you see it, nigga

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214. "LOL - that actually was a good analogy for your argument."
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you're still wrong of course, but well executed nonetheless.

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218. "an excellent comparison sir."
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240. "I was glad to see a 2.5 hour movie of good shit."
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208. "it WAS too long, I was actually waiting on it to end"
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Bales "growl" got on my nerves and I got sick of all the "hero" speeches. Those are my only real complaints. It was pretty good, but honestly, I never have to see it again.


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215. "classic hater's rant..."
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but TDK still caking....

  

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221. "the main problem with his assessment is the movie WAS about dent"
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it was about the rise and fall of a hero. it wasn't about the joker at all, the story arc was with dent, from being a promising D.A., to becoming the city's hero for prosecuting the entire mafia, to his downfall in turning into two-face and his ultimate demise in the end....

it wasn't a joker story and they added dent/two-face in the end...the joker was merely the provoker.

it's sorta like with "no country for old men" with the focus appeared to be on anton chighur (s/p), but the actually story was about the sheriff and his inability to adapt to an ever-changing world

you can complain that it's a bit long, but they omitted several scenes from then movie, and to cut a bit more REALLY would set a string of plot holes....

  

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222. "^^^Fanboy #1 showed up. YESSS!!!"
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>it was about the rise and fall of a hero. it wasn't about the
>joker at all, the story arc was with dent, from being a
>promising D.A., to becoming the city's hero for prosecuting
>the entire mafia, to his downfall in turning into two-face and
>his ultimate demise in the end....

Well, it did a pretty shity job about that, because
even fans of the movie thought Dent's scenes were just
dead space between Joker scenes.

>it wasn't a joker story and they added dent/two-face in the
>end...the joker was merely the provoker.

Right, the Joker was a sideshow. He wasn't why people
actually watched the movie.






















































































LOL

FOH.

>it's sorta like with "no country for old men" with the focus
>appeared to be on anton chighur (s/p), but the actually story
>was about the sheriff and his inability to adapt to an
>ever-changing world

Bad analogy

>you can complain that it's a bit long, but they omitted
>several scenes from then movie, and to cut a bit more REALLY
>would set a string of plot holes....

No, if the movie had been two movies like it was
supposed to, it woulda been no more than 2 hours and
been ice water.

Instead they hand us this big, baggy shitbag of a movie
with gaping holes through and through

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231. "Jim Emerson is TALKIN ABOUT IT!!! (link)"
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http://blogs.suntimes.com/scanners/2008/12/critics_better_love_the_dark_k.html

Critics better love The Dark Knight -- or else!
By Jim Emerson on December 13, 2008 12:18 AM

Success is no longer its own reward. At least not according to some partisans of "The Dark Knight." Fame, critical approbation, unimaginable riches, pop-cultural impact -- they are inadequate achievements. The picture must be showered with year-end awards consistent with the all-consuming Batmania of last July, no matter what else was released in 2008. Dammit.

Alarmed by what he deems insufficient obeisance to director Christopher Nolan's movie in annual honors announced so far (LA & NY crix, Golden Globules), Josh Tyler at CinemaBlend has been moved to issue movie critics an ultimatum: "Ignore 'The Dark Knight' at your peril." Actually, he issues several ultimata, in various forms, including this one, vague but menacing:

In any year, but especially in this, a particularly weak year, there's nothing out there which compares to "The Dark Knight." It must transcend your petty big box office biases since it has already changed the way we think about movies forever. It's more than the best movie of the year, it's one of the best movies ever made. Snub it and there will be consequences.
Yikes. So much for the integrity and diversity of critical discussion -- but what might those consequences be? Perhaps... death?!?!

The logic behind the threats, as near as I can tell, goes something like this: Most critics liked "The Dark Knight" (an 82 score, considered "Universal acclaim," at Metacritic, which tracks mostly mainstream print reviews). It was phenomenally popular (almost $1 billion in ticket sales worldwide). Therefore, critics who didn't like it are out of touch. But most media-consumers don't want to read reviews anyway (from in-touch or out-of-touch critics), so they are turning away from criticism to what Roger Ebert called "CelebCult" outlets, like CinemaBlend. (In a previous piece, "You Don't Care About Movie Reviews, Tyler wrote: "It's easy to call the media greedy and unprincipled, but to exist newspapers and websites must have an audience, and to have an audience you must give them something they want to read.") So, film criticism is dead because critics are losing their jobs, or possibly the other way around, because the audience that once made critics so popular does not want to read them anymore.

But back to "The Dark Knight": "Shortly before its debut in theaters, critics were hailing as one of the best movies ever made, a life changing experience," Tyler recalls. "It is, for a fact, one of the very best reviewed movies of the year." So, to conclude, dead critics who are not now hailing "The Dark Knight" as the greatest cinematic achievement of the year (or all years) are being inconsistent with what they may or may not have said earlier, and are thus sealing their own coffins. From the inside. Or they would be if they weren't already dead and buried and irrelevant and forgotten anyway.

And there's this:

It's more than just the year's best movie, it's also almost unquestionably going to be the year's most influential. Like "Star Wars" before it, "The Dark Knight" is fast becoming the new mold from which all future movies will be poured. Its impact, its influence on cinema will be felt for decades to come.

I'm afraid I must question both the hindsight and the foresight on display in this posting (headlined "Note to Award Givers: Ignore The Dark Knight At Your Own Peril"). True, I did find a quote from somebody at an Australian web site called Tsunami Magazine that said, "The Dark Knight is the best Batman film ever made, the best superhero movie ever made, and the best movie of the year to date" -- but I don't recall a mainstream critical consensus promising that it would wind up being everybody's Best Movie of the Year (when and if the End of the Year arrived), or that it ranked Among the Best Movies Ever Made. If that were indeed the case then we are living in a world where memory is what Guy Pearce's character experiences in Nolan's earlier "Memento." (I'm sorry: Does the term "earlier" have meaning in this context?)

As for the predictions, I can only wonder how "The Dark Knight" is "fast becoming the new mold from which all future movies will be poured," and what all movies will look like once they have been poured into it. For that matter, when after 1977 did all movies begin to resemble "Star Wars," which derived its cinematic sensibility from old Republic and Monogram serials?

Tyler concludes:

For print critics, a vote against "The Dark Knight" is a vote for your own irrelevancy. It's a vote for the unemployment line. It's a conscious choice to ignore a cultural phenomenon in favor of pushing some undeserved indie-film agenda over a movie which people have already seen.

This reasoning strikes me as bizarre -- almost as bizarre as Patrick Goldstein's bewildering LA Times blog post about how "specialty film" publicists are afraid to have the New York Times' Manohla Dargis review their pictures. ("What causes so much fear and loathing in the filmmaking community about Manohla's work as a critic isn't her blunt appraisals but her seeming lack of empathy for the challenge of tackling difficult material," Goldstein writes -- as if a critic's job were to review challenges and intentions rather than the movie on the screen. Meanwhile, Goldstein casts himself as indie Hollywood's trusted inside media consultant at the paper: "The production chief of one indie studio once was so infuriated by a string of negative Dargis reviews that he vowed to keep Manohla away from all of his future screenings, even if that meant stopping all our critics from seeing his movies. I told him it was a bad idea, since it would simply make Manohla a hero to critics everywhere, further increasing her clout.")

Tyler implies that the function of a critic is to choose between cultural phenomena and "some undeserved indie-film agenda." Were those really the two (and only two) options weighed by the Los Angeles Film Critics' Association when its members narrowly chose "WALL-E" over "The Dark Knight" for best picture? (Nolan was runner-up to Danny "Slumdog Millionaire" Boyle in the director category, and Heath Ledger won for supporting actor.)

On the other hand, Goldstein suggests that critics ought to promote an "indie-film agenda" based on a guestimation of the makers' ambitions: "No one blinks an eye when a critic eviscerates a dumb summer comedy -- that's a fair target. It's the filmmakers who've aimed high and been brought to their knees by a Dargis pan who feel as if they've been gored for sport." Even if it were harder to make a film that "aims high" than it is to make a "dumb summer comedy" (it's not), why should critics or audiences care? Is a serious opportunity bungled any more worthwhile or entertaining than a frivolous one? Might a misconceived attempt at self-importance be more egregiously offensive and/or painful to watch than a routine genre picture? (Especially when the former makes pretentious and repetitious Thematic Statements without developing them?)

I don't think film criticism is dead. What makes me sad is that so few people even know what it is. But that's something that hasn't changed in 30 years.

* * * *

P.S. In case you've forgotten, one of the best-written, most persuasive appreciations of "The Dark Knight" was written by Manohla Dargis herself:

A self-described agent of chaos, the Joker arrives in Gotham abruptly, as if he'd been hiding up someone's sleeve. He quickly seizes control of the city's crime syndicate and Batman's attention with no rhyme and less reason. Mr. Ledger, his body tightly wound but limbs jangling, all but disappears under the character's white mask and red leer. Licking and chewing his sloppy, smeared lips, his tongue darting in and out of his mouth like a jittery animal, he turns the Joker into a tease who taunts criminals (Eric Roberts's bad guy, among them) and the police (Gary Oldman's good cop), giggling while he-he-he (ha-ha-ha) tries to burn the world down. He isn't fighting for anything or anyone. He isn't a terrorist, just terrifying.

Mr. Nolan is playing with fire here, but partly because he's a showman. Even before the Joker goes wild, the director lets loose with some comic horror that owes something to Michael Mann's "Heat," something to Cirque de Soleil, and quickly sets a tense, coiled mood that he sustains for two fast-moving hours of freakish mischief, vigilante justice, philosophical asides and the usual trinkets and toys, before a final half-hour pileup of gunfire and explosions. This big-bang finish -- which includes a topsy-turvy image that poignantly suggests the world has been turned on its axis for good -- is sloppy, at times visually incoherent, yet touching. Mr. Nolan, you learn, likes to linger in the dark, but he doesn't want to live there.

In its grim intensity, "The Dark Knight" can feel closer to David Fincher's "Zodiac" than Tim Burton's playfully gothic "Batman," which means it's also closer to Bob Kane's original comic and Frank Miller's 1986 reinterpretation. That makes it heavy, at times almost pop-Wagnerian, but Mr. Ledger's performance and the film's visual beauty are transporting. (In Imax, it's even more operatic.) No matter how cynical you feel about Hollywood, it is hard not to fall for a film that makes room for a shot of the Joker leaning out the window of a stolen police car and laughing into the wind, the city's colored lights gleaming behind him like jewels. He's just a clown in black velvet, but he's also some kind of masterpiece.

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232. "Yup. Criticizing TDK = Criticizing Bush between 9/11 and Katrina"
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(or between 9/11 and Abu Ghraib. Debatable)

You get your head ripped off for it off jump

It is completely taboo to say anything bad
about this movie, and that was the case BEFORE
ANYONE HAD EVEN SEEN IT

Weird how that works

Everyone is supposed to just accept this
alleged great movie that's been pushed onto
us

They FORCED this shit on us, doggie

and the movie is pure dog doody

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233. "Can't believe they cited Cinemablend"
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It was a silly fanboy article. Basically, because it was a well reviewed mainstream film, The Dark Knight deserves a nomination over less "popular" films. Of course, popular just means how many people saw the films; whether the people who saw both films actually liked The Dark Knight less than the other films shouldn't matter.

This is also a guy who gave 5 stars to The Mist and Superman Returns, and somehow claimed that the origin story is "the most boring of superhero genre necessities".

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234. "When I read 'plot holes', I read 'I didn't quite get what they meant'"
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You all talk as though The Joker's just some regular dude who sits on the couch watching soaps.

He's likely obsessive, and looking at him in the movie, I'd believe he had unusual strength. No one called Bruce Lee weak, for a more convenient example.

The detective in the interrogation room broke some glass with Joker's head, and by that, made himself more vulnerable (by overstepping his bounds). This is Joker's theme. When you overstep, it comes back to haunt you.

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237. "Did you just compare the Joker to Bruce Lee?"
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Wow

>You all talk as though The Joker's just some regular dude who
>sits on the couch watching soaps.

>He's likely obsessive, and looking at him in the movie, I'd
>believe he had unusual strength. No one called Bruce Lee weak,
>for a more convenient example.

Bruce Lee is one of the best martial artists who
ever lived, and spent most of his life doing that.

God I wish you guys would fall back on the plea
copping and just admit Joker had supernatural powers,
and that it was dumb(it was)

>The detective in the interrogation room broke some glass with
>Joker's head, and by that, made himself more vulnerable (by
>overstepping his bounds). This is Joker's theme. When you
>overstep, it comes back to haunt you.

And Freddy Kreuger's theme is that he haunts your
dreams and plays with your worst fears.

I mean, cmon. You guys are copping miserable, sad
pleas for gaping plot holes.

The Joker is a psychopath. He's not the greatest
martial artist to ever live. He's not a hypnotist.
He's not an explosives expert.

He was all three in the movie, at once, and y'all
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242. "Can someone explain how he survived the jailhouse explosion?"
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Did the detective he had the shard to serve as a shield? Even so, to me that's probably the most unrealistic thing directly involving the Joker in the film.

Outside of that and him coming out of the semi-flip relatively unscathed, everything else physical the Joker did pretty much fell in the realm of possibility to me.

  

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243. "well explain this one to me if I'm so stupid"
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first, this violent psycho terrorist Joker and his huge entourage crash the big party. then the dude tosses ole girl out the window

and then Batman dives after her-
and then they land on the car-
and then*NEXT SCENE*

wait wait wait. this guy been wackin cops, putting pencils in people's faces, but we're just gonna let him chill at the party with his crew thick after we save this putty face broad? and furthermore, isn't Dent still just locked in some closet? Couldn't Joker just be like "well I'll be damned...that dumbass just jumped out the window after that pig nosed skeezer. NOW WHERE THE FUCK IS DENT, I'M FINNA KILL ALL OF YOU TIL YOU TELL ME, SUCK MY DICK"

that's a big error dawg.

what, Joker just grabbed some shrimp scampi for the road and peaced?

  

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244. "lol @ this"
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>Couldn't Joker just be like "well I'll be damned...that
>dumbass just jumped out the window after that pig nosed
>skeezer. NOW WHERE THE FUCK IS DENT, I'M FINNA KILL ALL OF YOU
>TIL YOU TELL ME, SUCK MY DICK"
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245. "I still can't get over how they fell 50 stories but it was all good"
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thanks to some Kevlar and a Dodge hood

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246. "lmao at O_E"
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as usual, accusing others of being mad when he is far and away the most active participant in the thread

dark knight is what is is, filled with holes (there are definite holes, especially the dinner party with dent in the closet), pretty stupid at parts, WILDLY unrealistic (yes, the joker is basically super naturally powerful), but also very entertaining. i dug the dark vibe, and ledger is great. it has an epic feel to it, and despite its flaws, i enjoyed it a lot.

and yes, it was pretty amazing on the imax, and not as good on dvd

  

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252. "I was waiting to see this after all the talk about Ledger >>> Jack"
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and all the talk about how it's one of the best movies of all time.

Shit wasn't even the best movie in its own franchise.

And what is with this SHIT I keep hearing about how Jack's Joker was "silly". Are you fucking shitting me? The dude who, when he asked for a mirror from his surgeon, had you pissing in your pants?! The dude who wanted to start an avante-garde art movement where they fucked up human beings? The dude who shanked a fatass mayor with a fucking QUILL??? That shit had to be thrown at Nolan Ryan speeds to penetrate that dude's blubber.

Jack's Joker is like this:

He starts out as some guy. A badass guy, but some guy nonetheless. He's pretty cool (i.e. when Eckhart pulls a gun on him and his boy is right behind him pointing right back...that shit was nasty. Jack didn't even flinch), but he gets caught stiffing his boss' lady and his boss tries to do him in.

Then he gets completely fucked over.

And he becomes this crazy ass mofo in the process. He's hilarious. He's freaky as shit. He's believable (once you get past the "shouldn't he have died in the chemicals??" bit). It is abundantly clear to the audience why his crime syndicate exists (he inherited it) and why they are loyal to him (he was well respected within the ranks before he took over).

He's got a reason he wants to get rid of Batman (Batman is stealing his publicity and ruining his plots. Also, Batman was present when he got fucked over in the first place).

The guy is just downright likeable. And at the same time he is scary. Bottom line.



Ledger's Joker:

How the fuck does this guy have an organized crime syndicate? Who are his henchmen that organize all this shit? Why does anybody follow him? Why doesn't someone just pull out a gun and shank him so they can all go back to their merry crime-doing lives?

How does this guy always seem to have some place rigged up and ready to blow? How does he smuggle explosives into every bathroom, closet, air conditioning duct, nook & cranny to get the hospital to blow like that?


why doesn't Batman just run over him with the damn bike so we can end the movie halfway through? I started laughing when I saw Batman almost kill himself trying to avoid killing Joker. EVEN IF you try to pull the BS argument "Batman doesn't kill people"...what exactly was Batman's plan when Joker was standing there helpless in the middle of the road and Batman was rolling up on him at high speeds on his stupid H2 motorcycle?

Also, the choice to replace Rachel Dawes totally threw me off. I had a really hard time imagining that she was supposed to be playing the same character as the girl in the first movie. It made the Two Face freakout seem kind of like, "yo dude you've been seeing this chick for a couple of months...it sucks, but you'll get over it."

  

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258. "^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^"
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254. "Bats didn't bend no gun barrels"
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At
>least Christian Bale appears to be somewhat athletic to make
>some of his shit semi-believable but then a lot of his is over
>the top too with him bending gun barrels and shit(Batman got
>superhuman strength now?),

He had some bat device in his hand when he did that

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255. "RE: LATE PASS - That Dark Knight bullshit was long as hell!! Its almost ..."
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When a bloody cinema ticket costs £7.50, it better as Hell be of epic length at minimum.

  

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259. "I thought it was alright, but clearly overrated"
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2-face ruined the movie, imo.

  

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>2-face ruined the movie, imo.

2-Face was PATHETIC. Completely ruined this
bullshit movie

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