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UncleClimax
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"10 greatest active novelists today"


  

          

dont ask me to define "active"..lets say have to have published a novel since 2000...good? i ask because i really sleep hard on contemporary shit...knowledge me, por favor.

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my fav is sue monk kidd
Oct 10th 2005
1
Rowling >>>>sue monk kidd
Oct 11th 2005
32
      they're different
Oct 12th 2005
65
I'm re-reading The Corrections right now
Oct 10th 2005
2
Have you read Franzen's essays?
Oct 11th 2005
25
yeah, that collection was called How To Be Alone
Oct 11th 2005
27
The Twenty-Seventh City
Oct 11th 2005
29
      Strong Motion is better than the 27th City
Oct 11th 2005
43
Harry Potter >>>The Corrections right now
Oct 11th 2005
33
if you've gotta be a douche
Oct 11th 2005
44
      a good friend of mine
Oct 11th 2005
46
           have you read the potter books?
Oct 12th 2005
66
           Yes, I read one, because they were recommended so highly by so many peop...
Oct 12th 2005
71
           yeah, IMDB's greatest movies of all time list is like that too
Oct 12th 2005
74
middlesex is fantastic
Oct 12th 2005
67
      you're very welcome
Oct 12th 2005
72
           good info
Oct 12th 2005
76
                I don't think the two are comparable
Oct 12th 2005
77
                     okay, i'll put it back on the list...
Oct 18th 2005
96
                          i loved The Virgin Suicides and Middlesex
Jul 24th 2007
100
Clive Cussler
Oct 11th 2005
3
Rowling >>>> Clive Cussler
Oct 11th 2005
34
Michel Houellebecq
Oct 11th 2005
4
Rowling >>>> Michel Houellebecq
Oct 11th 2005
35
      I like your style.
Oct 13th 2005
84
Toni Morrison, playa
Oct 11th 2005
5
Rowling >>>> Toni Morrison, playa
Oct 11th 2005
36
      Rowling >>>> Toni Morrison, playa
Oct 11th 2005
61
Crichton
Oct 11th 2005
6
Rowling >>> My DICK >>> Crichton
Oct 11th 2005
37
richard price.
Oct 11th 2005
7
yes- Samaritan best one so far, though Clockers is real good too
Oct 11th 2005
10
Rowling >>> Who?
Oct 11th 2005
38
Walter Moseley
Oct 11th 2005
8
and yes
Oct 11th 2005
11
Rowling >>> Walter Moseley
Oct 11th 2005
39
      ^^^^^He's Crazy Folks!!!^^^^^^
Oct 11th 2005
47
      lol.
Jul 24th 2007
101
i never read modern books
Oct 11th 2005
9
RE: i never read modern books
Oct 11th 2005
12
RE: i never read modern books
Oct 11th 2005
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Rowling >>>> you in Halo 2
Oct 11th 2005
40
      your mum >>>>>>> j.k. rowling
Oct 11th 2005
45
Kazuo Ishiguro
Oct 11th 2005
13
Harry Potter-san >>>> Kazuo Ishiguro
Oct 11th 2005
41
William Kennedy
Oct 11th 2005
14
what do you think of Frederick Busch?
Oct 11th 2005
31
I must admit I'm not familiar with his work
Oct 11th 2005
50
      he writes some non-fiction, mostly about writing,
Oct 11th 2005
52
           anything Tim O'Brien's written>>>>>>>Closing Arguments
Oct 11th 2005
53
                Not *anything*
Oct 11th 2005
55
                     gotcha
Oct 11th 2005
56
                          I think Closing Arguments is better than Girls, actually
Oct 11th 2005
57
Rowling >>> anyone with the last name Kennedy EVER
Oct 11th 2005
42
      Whatever you say, partner
Oct 11th 2005
51
           don't feed the animals, Mr. Jenkins
Oct 11th 2005
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RE: hmmm
Oct 11th 2005
15
thanx
Oct 11th 2005
62
      RE: no prob
Oct 12th 2005
73
      if you're gonna read Delillo you have to check out
Jul 24th 2007
102
Stephen King is and has always been my favorite
Oct 11th 2005
16
RE: he doesn't get enough respect
Oct 11th 2005
18
king isnt active anymore
Oct 11th 2005
22
      Not sure I believe him. But regardless, he's published since 2000.
Oct 11th 2005
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rushdie
Oct 11th 2005
17
RE: 10 greatest active novelists today
Oct 11th 2005
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RE: oh shit i forgot vonnegut!
Oct 11th 2005
20
Vonnegut has a new book out
Oct 11th 2005
21
the stories he put out a couple of years ago were great
Oct 11th 2005
24
Richard Powers
Oct 11th 2005
28
ghostwritten was great
Oct 13th 2005
86
      oh babe, how I envy you!
Oct 13th 2005
87
           well alrighty then
Oct 14th 2005
89
                *especially* since you liked Ghostwritten.
Oct 14th 2005
92
Tom Robbins & Haruki Murakami
Oct 11th 2005
30
let's see...
Oct 11th 2005
48
Gilead was insanely wonderful
Oct 11th 2005
49
      yeah, it's mostly on the strength of gilead
Oct 11th 2005
59
           Queen Loana is even worse
Oct 11th 2005
60
                queen loana is another robinson novel?
Oct 12th 2005
68
                     scratch that question...
Oct 12th 2005
69
RE: 10 greatest active novelists today
Oct 11th 2005
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most writers i read are long dead
Oct 12th 2005
63
possibly in the next couple of years...
Oct 12th 2005
64
Dennis Cooper
Oct 12th 2005
70
RE: 10 greatest active novelists today
Oct 12th 2005
75
I thought Fortress of Solitude petered out pretty quick
Oct 12th 2005
78
      agreed on Fortress of Solitude and Motherless Brooklyn
Oct 12th 2005
83
Harper Lee
Oct 12th 2005
79
funny
Oct 12th 2005
80
nick hornby.
Oct 12th 2005
81
I think many of us thought of him and then shook our heads
Oct 12th 2005
82
This is a hard question
Oct 13th 2005
85
Kurt Vonnegut
Oct 14th 2005
88
Can't think of 10
Oct 14th 2005
90
Hemingway (lol) - last novel "Under Kilimanjaro" came out last month
Oct 14th 2005
91
for those that like to geek out
Oct 14th 2005
93
no one mentioned ha jin? for shame
Oct 15th 2005
94
victor lavalle
Oct 17th 2005
95
Tom Robbins
Oct 18th 2005
97
up
Jul 24th 2007
98
..jesus?
Jul 24th 2007
99
i guess mine would be...
Jul 24th 2007
103
shalimar the clown was fucking great
Jul 24th 2007
104
      got it on my shelf and will get to it soon man
Jul 24th 2007
106
           i gave it away when i was staying in the hostel
Jul 24th 2007
107
RE: 10 greatest active novelists today
Jul 24th 2007
105
Not one Martin Amis mention?
Jul 24th 2007
108
his newest House of Meetings was pretty good
Jul 25th 2007
110
Cormac McCarthy
Jul 24th 2007
109
Eggers n/m
Jul 25th 2007
111

2nd2Nun
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1. "my fav is sue monk kidd"
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based on her current books and her old magazine articles

  

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32. "Rowling >>>>sue monk kidd"
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65. "they're different"
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Wed Oct-12-05 07:39 AM by 2nd2Nun

  

          

i like rowling too but how you can you compare?

edit: nevermind, i just noticed you posted this to everyone's response! i do like the potter books though, you excited for the movie?

  

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2. "I'm re-reading The Corrections right now"
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so I would definitely put Jonathan Franzen on the list

Also, David Mitchell, for Cloud Atlas alone.

And Edward P. Jones, for The Known World.

And Jeffrey Eugenides, for Middlesex.

And Haruki Murakami, for Sputnik Sweetheart and Norwegian Wood (dunno if those are post-2000, but they're the best I've read from him so far, and Kafka on the Shore, his latest, was kind of disappointing).

Zadie Smith for White Teeth.

Paul Beatty for The White Boy Shuffle and Tuff.

That's all I can really think of at the moment, but there's 7 at least.

  

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25. "Have you read Franzen's essays?"
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I forget what it's called right now, but he has a collection published that I really liked. In particular the piece he wrote about The Corrections and the Oprah fallout, called "Mr. Difficult." It was a useful discussion of high-art vs. low-art, the relationship between reader and author, idea and art, etc. Whether you agree with him or not it's worth reading. Not every essay really interested me, but most of them were good and solid. If you like the Corrections, though, you should definitely read "Mr. Difficult."

I also got one of his earlier books, Second City, I think to read over the summer but now it's just sitting w/ a bunch of other books I got to read over the summer but never did.

  

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27. "yeah, that collection was called How To Be Alone"
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I like his other novels fairly well too, though The Corrections is head and shoulders above either of them. I like some of his short pieces, I think that Oprah piece was pretty good though I have a tough time remembering it specifically, but overall I much prefer his novels to his short non-fiction stuff.

  

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29. "The Twenty-Seventh City"
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I didn't love it.

I like him better as a social critic than as a novelist, although I did really like The Corrections.

  

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43. "Strong Motion is better than the 27th City"
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Though neither is nearly as good as The Corrections

  

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33. "Harry Potter >>>The Corrections right now"
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44. "if you've gotta be a douche"
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can you just stick to GD? They seem to like that sort of thing there.

  

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46. "a good friend of mine"
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emailed me a link to England's favorite books of the century. Well, as you might imagine, "favorite" = "popular" and all the Harry Potter books were on it. Along with a few other choice pieces of crap. I told my friend I never wanted to speak to him again.

  

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66. "have you read the potter books?"
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before you trash them

  

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71. "Yes, I read one, because they were recommended so highly by so many peop..."
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Let's get this straight: They're *children's* books. I did not like the book, and when I gave it further thought, I realized that I really had very little in common with the people who had so strongly urged me to read them. Generally speaking, those who pushed them on me did not care for the books or films that I like. Makes sense, doesn't it?

  

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74. "yeah, IMDB's greatest movies of all time list is like that too"
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I like the Harry Potter books a lot, but the writing just isn't on the same level as real top novelists. I enjoy reading them, I wouldn't disrespect someone's intelligence for recommending them, but at the same time if someone really thinks she's one of the 10 best novelists working today, our tastes aren't likely to coincide.

  

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67. "middlesex is fantastic"
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thanks for recommending it. eugenides reminds me a little of rushdie with his playful writing style.

  

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72. "you're very welcome"
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Yeah, I can definitely see the comparison, and I enjoy that attitude a lot more than magic realism, though that may just be me. Speaking of which, I need to read some more Rushdie. Just a word of warning, I dunno if you've read The Virgin Suicides or not, but Middlesex is much, much better, in my opinion. But hopefully it'll just be one of many great books to come.

Eugenides had a good short story in the New Yorker a week or two ago. I dunno if he has enough for a collection yet, but I'm definitely intrigued to check that out if it happens.

  

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76. "good info"
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i'll scratch the virgin suicides off my list.

  

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77. "I don't think the two are comparable"
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and I really loved The Virgin Suicides.

  

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96. "okay, i'll put it back on the list..."
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but put it at the very bottom.

  

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100. "i loved The Virgin Suicides and Middlesex"
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but as i think janey said they're not even really comparable. two entirely different novels but it's definitely worth reading. now i just wish dude would release another book...


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3. "Clive Cussler"
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34. "Rowling >>>> Clive Cussler"
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4. "Michel Houellebecq"
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:.:.::.:.::.:.::.:.::.:.::.:

  

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35. "Rowling >>>> Michel Houellebecq"
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84. "I like your style."
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I can tell you must have read a lot of books.

:.:.::.:.::.:.::.:.::.:.::.:

  

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5. "Toni Morrison, playa"
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charles johnson
paul beatty
the dude who wrote soul mountain (asian cat, don't wanna disrespect by misspelling his name)

  

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36. "Rowling >>>> Toni Morrison, playa"
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61. " Rowling >>>> Toni Morrison, playa"
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That sentence should be enoughto get you ass locked up for a few years in any civilized court of law.

In other words, you on that good crack

  

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6. "Crichton"
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37. "Rowling >>> My DICK >>> Crichton"
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7. "richard price."
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trifling ass nigga

  

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10. "yes- Samaritan best one so far, though Clockers is real good too"
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38. "Rowling >>> Who?"
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8. "Walter Moseley"
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11. "and yes"
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Dunno just which one is best, they're all pretty good so far, though I like the Easy Rawlins ones better than the Fearless Jones ones. Walkin' The Dog is pretty good too.

  

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39. "Rowling >>> Walter Moseley"
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47. "^^^^^He's Crazy Folks!!!^^^^^^"
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<<<<<<<<Don't Drool On The Avy>>>>>>>>

"There's a fine line between persistence and foolishness..."
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"To Each His Reach"
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101. "lol."
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but yeah, Walter Mosley is in my top as well. I've read all his books and he never fails to amaze me. His output of so many novels is amazing as well.

  

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9. "i never read modern books"
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except for a few children's books, i don't think i've read any novels published during my lifetime

oh... except some tom clancys and a ken follet, The Third Twin or something. maybe a couple of other random thriller's i've forgotten. Some of the latter Dune novels I suppose

there's like 5 centuries of writing to catch up on first!

anyone else like this?

might read an Inspector Morse one of these days

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12. "RE: i never read modern books"
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like i said, im the same way...lol but i dont read childrens books. i have to say, now that i think about it, ive done a bit...i used to read some elmore leonard, some moseley...and i guess morrison's cool..but u know..i dunnno..i like don delillo *sp*...im talkin some real lyrical type cats on some real stylish prose thing...thats just the sort of thing im a fan of and cant imagine too many cats doing these days.

>except for a few children's books, i don't think i've read
>any novels published during my lifetime
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u bullshittin.


>there's like 5 centuries of writing to catch up on first!
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agreed. i got madd stuff i need to read..madame bovary and some other stuff i cant think of right now. but yeah im sure something like that is more urgently necessary to read than say the latest grisham novel...

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23. "RE: i never read modern books"
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>like i said, im the same way...lol but i dont read childrens
>books. i have to say, now that i think about it, ive done a
>bit...i used to read some elmore leonard, some moseley...and i
>guess morrison's cool..but u know..i dunnno..i like don
>delillo *sp*...im talkin some real lyrical type cats on some
>real stylish prose thing...thats just the sort of thing im a
>fan of and cant imagine too many cats doing these days.
>

i'm about to read Libra. sounds good

see my problem is... i've got no idea WHAT cats are doing these days. if i read all the new stuff, i wouldn't have time to read the old stuff

>>except for a few children's books, i don't think i've read
>>any novels published during my lifetime
>>
>u bullshittin.
>

no seriously... a few more maybe. Batman Forever: The Book (lol)... maybe some that I did when I was at school though they also would tend to be old

>
>>there's like 5 centuries of writing to catch up on first!
>>
>agreed. i got madd stuff i need to read..madame bovary and
>some other stuff i cant think of right now. but yeah im sure
>something like that is more urgently necessary to read than
>say the latest grisham novel...

yep... it sort of boggles my mind that we even have these threads. i couldn't begin to put together a "top ten current novelists"... i'm surprised that from the thousands of new books to choose from, anyone's EVER read the same one as someone else

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40. "Rowling >>>> you in Halo 2"
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45. "your mum >>>>>>> j.k. rowling"
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13. "Kazuo Ishiguro"
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Zadie Smith (haven't read her last cos I always wait for paperback)
prolly more that i can't think of right now

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41. "Harry Potter-san >>>> Kazuo Ishiguro"
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14. "William Kennedy"
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31. "what do you think of Frederick Busch?"
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I don't know whether he ranks as among the ten best novelists working today, but I do think he ranks as among the most underrated current novelists.

  

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50. "I must admit I'm not familiar with his work"
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I'm so wrapped up in my little nonfiction cocoon that I'm completely out of the loop when it comes to contemporary fiction.

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52. "he writes some non-fiction, mostly about writing,"
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but if you have any yen toward Vietnam war lit, his book Closing Arguments is among the best. You might not realize at first that it's a Vietnam war book.

Girls is also quite beautiful and relatively quick. And The Night Inspector is remarkable. Just to name a few.

  

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53. "anything Tim O'Brien's written>>>>>>>Closing Arguments"
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and that's not to say Closing Arguments isn't good, but still

  

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55. "Not *anything*"
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I thought Tomcat In Love was so-so at best. And I couldn't really get behind The Nuclear Age. That said, I have always made it clear that my two favorite Vietnam related books are The Things They Carried and Dispatches, so don't think I'm sleeping on the genre or O'Brien.

  

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56. "gotcha"
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yeah actually so far I've read The Things They Carried, In The Lake Of The Woods, and Going After Cacciato. I didn't like Cacciato quite as much as the other two, but I still liked it better than Closing Arguments.

For Busch, I've only read that and Girls, and I liked Girls much better.

  

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57. "I think Closing Arguments is better than Girls, actually"
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but that's just me.

Yeah, I don't really get Cacciato. Everyone but thee and me says it's his best, but that whole whaddayacallit reality thing doesn't work for me.

  

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42. "Rowling >>> anyone with the last name Kennedy EVER"
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51. "Whatever you say, partner"
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The Pulitzer Prize Commitee respectfully disagrees.

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54. "don't feed the animals, Mr. Jenkins"
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lol

  

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15. "RE: hmmm"
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my (highly subjective) list, in no order:

john irving
haruki murakami
don delillo
zadie smith
michael chabon
banana yoshimoto
neil gaiman
orson scott card
jeffrey eugenides
j.m. coetzee

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62. "thanx"
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i'll look into those cats.

could u recommend a novel or two from each por favor?

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73. "RE: no prob"
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john irving - my gf is more versed in irving than I am. she's read damn near everything and has yet to be disappointed. For me, A Prayer for Owen Meany and (don't let the movie phase you) A Cider House Rules.

haruki murakami - The Wind-Up Bird Chronicle....and..oh...Hard Boiled Wonderland and the End of the World

don delillo - White Noise, Underworld

zadie smith - she's only got three books out. White Teeth, The Autograph Man, and the just released On Beauty.

michael chabon - The Adventures of Kavalier and Klay, Wonderboys

banana yoshimoto - Kitchen...can't think of a second recommendation. Not that her other books aren't good, but you should read kitchen first to see if you like her style. If not, it's not even worth checking her others.

neil gaiman - American Gods. His new one is Anansi Boys.

orson scott card - Ender's Game (it was written more for teens/pre-teens, but it's a great book. And it's written in that style with good reason.) Speaker for the Dead.

jeffrey eugenides - Middlesex, Virgin Suicides

j.m. coetzee - Disgrace, Youth

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102. "if you're gonna read Delillo you have to check out"
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MAO II


probably my favorite of his. i dont know how true this is buti heard after the September 11 attacks the FBI went for advice on how terrorists' minds work or something like that...


PEACE

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16. "Stephen King is and has always been my favorite"
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But I know he's too popular to be considered "great" nowadays.

I do think some of his books tend to be too long, and his endings are not always great, but I've never read a book of his that I didn't enjoy. And most of them I love, and have read multiple times.

  

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18. "RE: he doesn't get enough respect"
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he's the definition of prolific. i can't read as fast as he writes.

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22. "king isnt active anymore"
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i thought he was just finishing up his last series and putting it down for good.

and just writing articles for entertainment weekly


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26. "Not sure I believe him. But regardless, he's published since 2000."
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That was the poster's criteria for "active."

I knopw he says he's retiring, but a writer like him will continue to keep writing. He may not keep publishing, or he may only publish once every few years, he may get more into writing teleplays and screenplays (he seems to like it, though most would agree that he's far better at novels), or he may stick to writing articles like you said.

I hope he gives us more novels. I love them all.

  

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17. "rushdie"
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19. "RE: 10 greatest active novelists today"
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Tom Robbins (the most colorful writer alive, his plots are always quirky and amazingly imaginative)

John Irving (this guy consistently writes great, sincere and spiritual novels)

Tom Wolfe (Charlotte Simmons, though flawed, was still one hell of an epic in my opinion)

TC Boyle (He is the most underrated writer alive ... check out books like the Tortilla Curtain, Road to Wellville, or anything he's written, they're all wildly captivating, original and entertaining)

Toni Morrison (duh)

Kurt Vonnegut (though he hasn't released a novel since 2000, he still puts stuff out, and is the greatest living writer imo)

Chuck Palahniuk (great writer ... hard to top when it comes to dark humor)

Alice Munroe (If you dig tortured and authentic stories about love and pain, she's hard to top)

Mark Z Danielewski (House of Leaves is the best novel of the last two decades imo, and though it's the only thing he's put out, I'm sure whatever he's working on now will be incredible)

Ray Bradbury (This guy is too often slept on. Everything I've read of his is mind-blowing).

  

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20. "RE: oh shit i forgot vonnegut!"
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21. "Vonnegut has a new book out"
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24. "the stories he put out a couple of years ago were great"
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"One More for the Road" i think the collection was called

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28. "Richard Powers"
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Don DeLillo

David Mitchell. Cloud Atlas and Ghostwritten (and that short story in the McSweeney's thing) were incredible.

Based on one novel only, Helen DeWitt. Query whether she can follow it up with anything as good.

uhhhhhhm There was a time when I would have said Stewart O'Nan and I can still make a principled argument for including him, but his work is a little less consistent in quality than it used to be.

hmmmmm

Let me think some more on this.

  

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86. "ghostwritten was great"
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i didn't know he had a second one already.

what do you recommend from delillo? someone gave me a copy of underworld and i haven't gotten into it yet.

  

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87. "oh babe, how I envy you!"
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Reading Cloud Atlas for the first time was an unparalleled experience!

As to DeLillo, my favorite is Libra. And as much as I loved Underworld, I can't say for certain that it's the best one of his to start with. The Names, maybe. Libra is a good choice, though. Or White Noise.

  

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89. "well alrighty then"
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guess i gotta go cop cloud atlas.

  

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92. "*especially* since you liked Ghostwritten."
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I wasn't so crazy for Number9Dream, although I thought it was fine. But Cloud Atlas, yeah. Perfection.

There are those who quibble with the form and say it's a gimmick. So that's why it's especially recommended for those who liked Ghostwritten. That form was gimmicky too, but it worked.

  

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30. "Tom Robbins & Haruki Murakami"
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48. "let's see..."
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my list would have to include:

richard powers
don delillo
salman rushdie (tho his last one wasn't stellar)
marilynne robinson

maybe toni morrison too?

there was a time when i'd have put umberto eco's name on the list.

  

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49. "Gilead was insanely wonderful"
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and I'm lukewarm about Housekeeping.

And Eco, you know, Eco is only a half-hearted novelist. His best novels are really just expositions or illustrations of literary theory. His essays are great, though. Great!

  

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59. "yeah, it's mostly on the strength of gilead"
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that i include robinson.

maybe by this standard i should also include edward p. jones.

and yes, i know eco's half-novelist, half-theorist. i've read lots of his theory. it just so happens that his first two novels are fantastic novels AND fantastic theory at the same time, while his last two ('specially island of the day before) aren't so hot at the "novel" end of things. agreed?

  

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60. "Queen Loana is even worse"
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and yeah, he'll never get better than the first two.

On nominating someone on the strength of one novel, why not? I did. Jones is definitely up there, too, and his short stories hold up to close scrutiny.

  

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68. "queen loana is another robinson novel?"
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i didn't know she had another one.


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69. "scratch that question..."
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i just remembered that queen loana is eco's latest, which i haven't gotten around to reading. sounds like you're saying not to bother.

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58. "RE: 10 greatest active novelists today"
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Rowling>>>>>>>any active author

  

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63. "most writers i read are long dead"
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or non-fiction. I think I could safely put Chabon, Elmore Leonard and I suppose Edward P. Jones in such a list if I felt I was really able to.

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64. "possibly in the next couple of years..."
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jhumpa lahiri
dave eggers

i love them both, but we'll have to see where they go as novelists

  

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god jr. was really good
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75. "RE: 10 greatest active novelists today"
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Lethem - Motherless Brooklyn is great and Fortress of Solitude was pretty alright too.

Martel - Life of Pi. Yan's only book that i've read... not sure if it qualifies as one the 10 greatest... but still a damn good read, tough to put down

Vonnegut - anything of course

Easton Ellis - haven't read the newest one... but all of his other stuff is great

not exactly "up on things"... could only come up with four, but i like 'em





  

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78. "I thought Fortress of Solitude petered out pretty quick"
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but yeah, Motherless Brooklyn is great.

And I liked Life of Pi a lot, but not nearly enough to put him in the top ten.

uhm, now I forget what else you said.

Oh, yeah, Ellis. I think he has flashes of absolute genius, and long stretches of genius-free work.

  

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83. "agreed on Fortress of Solitude and Motherless Brooklyn"
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I didn't like Life of Pi much though, right about the time "the Island" came up I seriously tuned out.
>And I liked Life of Pi a lot, but not nearly enough to put him
>in the top ten.

  

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79. "Harper Lee"
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80. "funny"
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81. "nick hornby."
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http://www.audioscrobbler.com/user/whitenotion/
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82. "I think many of us thought of him and then shook our heads"
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How To Be Good and A Long Way Down are serious disappointments to those of us who thought that his first two were so wonderful.

  

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85. "This is a hard question"
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B/c there are people with a great novel and then some average to pretty bad ones = Franzen, Denis Johnson, Colson Whitehead, Jeanette Winterson. There is Junot Diaz with his one great book. There are also people that I think have a good book in them like David Means. But the only two writers that I can say I think are consistently good are DeLillo and James Salter.

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88. "Kurt Vonnegut"
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i think he's still writing

  

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90. "Can't think of 10"
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George R.R. Martin is incredible
Chuck Pahlunik(most likely spelt wrong)
Neil Gaiman
China Mieville- Incredible writer
Hunter S Thompson will always be my favorite

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91. "Hemingway (lol) - last novel "Under Kilimanjaro" came out last month"
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although to be fair it was the same manuscript that True At First Light came from. just with nothing much cut, so twice as long. but True At First Light was only 1999

anyone read either?

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93. "for those that like to geek out"
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neil gaiman is great. he's got 3 novels (he's famous for the sandman graphic novels), haven't read the anasi boys (sp?) which is his latest, it's a spinoff off american gods and neverwhere...both of which i enjoyed a bunch.

i'd def start out with american gods.

  

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94. "no one mentioned ha jin? for shame"
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so yeah

ha jin
toni
edwidge
anita shreve
julia alvarez
roddy doyle!!!
joyce carol oates
coetzee

two more...

um

i'll be back i think

  

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95. "victor lavalle"
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slapboxing with jesus - great short stories
the ecstatic - wonderful novel

i would vouch for zadie smith, but i'm not sure what I think about her...i read white teeth but i don't remember it.

francine prose is also pretty prolific as is jonathan lethem. i like what i've read of their stuff, too.

  

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97. "Tom Robbins"
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I dont read leisurly as much as I should, but if you haven't read Still Life With Woodpecker or Fierce Invalids Home From Hot Climates, bump both of them to the top of your list for your own sake

i can't believe hes only been mentioned twice so far

  

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98. "up"
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99. "..jesus?"
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that you, buddy?

  

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103. "i guess mine would be..."
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Murakami, Edward P. Jones, Phillip Roth, Toni Morrsion, Eugenides, Rushdie, DeLillo, Coetzee


all i could think of for the time being


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104. "shalimar the clown was fucking great"
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*he said eloquently*

  

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106. "got it on my shelf and will get to it soon man"
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heard wonderful things about it. good to hear you co-sign it...


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107. "i gave it away when i was staying in the hostel"
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and really regret doing so

it's good.

  

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105. "RE: 10 greatest active novelists today"
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cant believe this thread still exists

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108. "Not one Martin Amis mention?"
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I mean I haven't read him in awhile but he's still putting out novels and his earlier work is classic = The Information, Money, London Fields.

DeLillo is in the same boat. New stuff = not so much. Older stuff = essential. Underworld (if you can take the weight) but Mao II, The Names, Libra and the overrated White Noise.

James Salter is my personal favorite but his best work is almost 40 years old now.

I have to give Franzen the benefit of the doubt but I'm not sold. While The Corrections is an A+, his other two are C's.

Michael Cunningham is also worth mentioning.

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110. "his newest House of Meetings was pretty good"
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and i'm suprised nobody mentioned him as well as McEwan or McCarthy (as mentioned in the post below).


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109. "Cormac McCarthy"
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Is another the definitely belongs in this conversation.

And I'm not a fan but I'm surprised no one mentioned Ian McEwan.

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111. "Eggers n/m"
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