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"But does PTP think about the writing?"


  

          

I'll post the genre and you reply with what you think of as an example of good writing.

  

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Subject Author Message Date ID
Movie-Drama
Jan 26th 2007
1
Crash
Jan 26th 2007
6
Adaptation
Jan 26th 2007
11
Adaptation was a drama?
Jan 26th 2007
14
      Eh... I thought it leaned more that way, even though it was funny.
Jan 26th 2007
32
The Best Man
Jan 26th 2007
12
Chinatown
Jan 26th 2007
16
LA Confidential.
Jan 26th 2007
22
beat me to it
Jan 29th 2007
43
yes
Jan 30th 2007
57
Wall Street
Jan 26th 2007
25
A Few Good Men
Jan 26th 2007
30
His Girl Friday n/m
Jan 26th 2007
34
a drama?
Jan 26th 2007
38
      Spoiler
Jan 26th 2007
39
Memento
Jan 29th 2007
51
network
Jan 31st 2007
70
Movie-Comedy
Jan 26th 2007
2
There's Something About Mary
Jan 26th 2007
5
Annie Hall
Jan 26th 2007
10
A dark comedy? Network
Jan 26th 2007
17
Rushmore (because Annie Hall & Mary were taken)
Jan 26th 2007
24
that or Miller's Crossing (depending on what genre you wanna put it in)
Jan 30th 2007
58
Airplane (for spoofs; Top Secret in 2nd)
Jan 26th 2007
31
Hot Shots 2
Jan 26th 2007
33
His Girl Friday
Jan 26th 2007
35
Intermission
Jan 29th 2007
48
the big lebowski
Jan 31st 2007
71
Television-Drama
Jan 26th 2007
3
The Wire OR The Sopranos
Jan 26th 2007
7
The Wire.
Jan 26th 2007
23
easily
Jan 30th 2007
59
Six Feet Under
Jan 26th 2007
26
Inspector Morse, Messiah
Jan 26th 2007
29
Homicide: Life on the Streets
Jan 29th 2007
49
West Wing
Jan 29th 2007
54
Television-Comedy
Jan 26th 2007
4
EDIT: The Larry Sanders Show
Jan 26th 2007
8
Arrested Development
Jan 26th 2007
9
The Office (British)
Jan 26th 2007
13
The middle seasons of the Simpsons
Jan 26th 2007
18
This might be the best answer, IMO.
Jan 29th 2007
41
man, my Season 5 DVD has been getting crazy burn recently
Jan 29th 2007
46
also easily
Jan 30th 2007
60
aRRESTED dEVELOPMENT
Jan 26th 2007
27
Sesame Street
Jan 26th 2007
28
Frasier (probably the GOAT), Not the 9 O'Clock News, Malcolm in the Mid
Jan 26th 2007
36
Seinfeld.
Jan 26th 2007
37
That's the one.
Jan 27th 2007
40
Newsradio
Jan 29th 2007
42
It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia
Jan 29th 2007
50
Sports Night n/m
Jan 29th 2007
53
Entourage
Jan 30th 2007
62
Scrubs
Jan 31st 2007
74
Cheers
Jan 31st 2007
75
based on the actual scripts?
Jan 26th 2007
15
Comics- Superhero
Jan 26th 2007
19
how about we just start an Alan Moore post, instead?
Jan 29th 2007
44
      Sometimes it's just Alan Moore
Jan 29th 2007
47
           ..not sure I get your meaning?
Jan 29th 2007
52
                It was my weird way of say sometimes the best comic book writer...
Jan 30th 2007
67
                     I just read the first Promethea trade aka You will hear no argument
Jan 31st 2007
69
Comics-Crime
Jan 26th 2007
20
Stray Bullets
Jan 29th 2007
45
Catwoman
Jan 30th 2007
64
the Brubaker stuff I read was perfection
Jan 30th 2007
66
Gotham Central
Jan 30th 2007
65
Criminal
Jan 31st 2007
68
Comics-Indy
Jan 26th 2007
21
Novels
Jan 30th 2007
55
Cloud Atlas
Jan 30th 2007
56
Erasure.
Jan 30th 2007
61
thanks for the heads up on this
Jan 31st 2007
73
oooh oooh I can do this
Jan 30th 2007
63
A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man or Catch-22
Jan 31st 2007
72

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1. "Movie-Drama"
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6. "Crash"
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... is not a valid answer (ha, fooled y'all!)

The Godfather is my actual answer.
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11. "Adaptation"
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14. "Adaptation was a drama?"
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32. "Eh... I thought it leaned more that way, even though it was funny."
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But I guess that could go the other way.

  

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12. "The Best Man"
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The Henry Fonda flick. I haven't seen the more recent film of that title.

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16. "Chinatown"
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22. "LA Confidential."
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43. "beat me to it"
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I saw this for the first time not too long ago, and the writing is what left the biggest impression on me. Which as I recall, rarely happens when I see a movie. Probably because like most people, I see a movie as actors being filmed, not screenplays being acted.

But the writing felt textbook tight while still managing to be a lot of fun. Seems like the kind of script you would study, if you were into such a thing.

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57. "yes"
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25. "Wall Street"
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30. "A Few Good Men"
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The movie was better than the play.

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34. "His Girl Friday n/m"
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38. "a drama?"
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Please explain. A lot of good comedies contain dramatic structure (Sandy Mackendrick said "Comedy is drama, only faster."). But do you really see this as much a drama as a comedy?

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39. "Spoiler"
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The crime/political plot.


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51. "Memento"
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70. "network"
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2. "Movie-Comedy"
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5. "There's Something About Mary"
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10. "Annie Hall"
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17. "A dark comedy? Network"
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24. "Rushmore (because Annie Hall & Mary were taken)"
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58. "that or Miller's Crossing (depending on what genre you wanna put it in)"
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31. "Airplane (for spoofs; Top Secret in 2nd)"
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I'm not sure what I'd say for Best Romantic Comedy or regular comedy.

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33. "Hot Shots 2"
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35. "His Girl Friday"
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To me, a comedy and drama.

  

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48. "Intermission"
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71. "the big lebowski"
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3. "Television-Drama"
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7. "The Wire OR The Sopranos"
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23. "The Wire."
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59. "easily"
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26. "Six Feet Under"
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29. "Inspector Morse, Messiah"
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two british detective dramas you should watch if you ever get the chance

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Why do you choose to mimic these wack MCs?
Why do you choose to listen to R&B?

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49. "Homicide: Life on the Streets"
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54. "West Wing"
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4. "Television-Comedy"
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8. "EDIT: The Larry Sanders Show"
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9. "Arrested Development"
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Sharp, dense, smart. Along with Mr. Show and Seinfeld, probably the best written show I've ever seen.

  

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13. "The Office (British)"
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Very surprised to hear there was actually very little improvisation on the show.

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18. "The middle seasons of the Simpsons"
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41. "This might be the best answer, IMO."
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Now that it's become more rare to catch an episode from this period, when I do, I'm just in awe of how funny everything is. And the stories actually have heart. Such a golden age.

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46. "man, my Season 5 DVD has been getting crazy burn recently"
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I didn't even realize Conan wrote the "Homer Goes to College" episode. That one's fantastic

  

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60. "also easily"
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I've heard the jokes so many times I need to give episodes a few years before I come back to 'em, but they're the best.

  

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27. "aRRESTED dEVELOPMENT"
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28. "Sesame Street"
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This stuff was funny for all people of all ages and taught as well as entertained.

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36. "Frasier (probably the GOAT), Not the 9 O'Clock News, Malcolm in the Mid"
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Frasier's probably the best though, they came up with such a variety of humour for so long
they had all the character comedy, situational comedy, farces, drama, but they could also always be depended on for witticisms, something a lot of comedies slack on (in Friends the jokes usually revolved round the characters doing their stock reaction... like Joey reacting stupidly, Phoebe reacting wierdly, Chandler supplying the obvious piss take, etc)

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Why do you choose to listen to R&B?

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37. "Seinfeld."
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40. "That's the one."
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42. "Newsradio"
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*shrugs*

  

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50. "It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia"
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53. "Sports Night n/m"
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74. "Scrubs"
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75. "Cheers"
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15. "based on the actual scripts?"
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or just dialogue?

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19. "Comics- Superhero"
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44. "how about we just start an Alan Moore post, instead?"
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Althought at the moment, All-Star Superman is writing a love letter to the genre while transcending it all at once.

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47. "Sometimes it's just Alan Moore"
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52. "..not sure I get your meaning?"
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67. "It was my weird way of say sometimes the best comic book writer..."
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...is just Alan Moore. People might argue in favor Grant Morrison or whoever, but sometimes it's just Alan Moore. No argument needed.

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69. "I just read the first Promethea trade aka You will hear no argument"
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from me.

Morrison is a great great writer and easily the most exciting person working in mainstream comics today. But Moore is just flat out the greatest mind to grace the medium.

I've been compiling a lot of his indie/lesser known shit on my harddrive lately and it's every bit as good as his 'major' work. I'm gonna drop some YSI links on y'all in the next day or two...

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20. "Comics-Crime"
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?!

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45. "Stray Bullets"
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Scorsese would wet himself.

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64. "Catwoman"
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Surprisingly effective noir. Up until they went and changed directions.

  

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66. "the Brubaker stuff I read was perfection"
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65. "Gotham Central"
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The "Homicide" of the DC universe.

  

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68. "Criminal"
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21. "Comics-Indy"
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$

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55. "Novels"
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56. "Cloud Atlas"
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Or, No Country for Old Men, for heavier material.

  

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61. "Erasure."
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73. "thanks for the heads up on this"
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I'd never heard of it. Looks good, and with your recommendation, that seals the deal.

Have you read Man Gone Down? I won't say that it's the best writing in the world, but it's a worthy first novel, with an interesting perspective.


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63. "oooh oooh I can do this"
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I'll say:

Lolita
The Human Stain
Mating
and just to throw a weird one into the mix, Bel Canto, by Ann Patchett


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72. "A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man or Catch-22"
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