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"FREEDOM WRITERS. based on a REMARKABLE true story!"


  

          

finally a white teacher who tries to understand the ghetto youth

there's a war going on in the streets people!!

http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=13714

  

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this looks orginal.
Dec 21st 2006
1
it's refreshing to see Hollywood take a chance on something like this
Dec 21st 2006
2
exactly, and she doesn't want to lock them up. she wants to understand!
Dec 21st 2006
4
      ^^^MESSAAAAAAAAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dec 21st 2006
5
      she uses tough love. the kids are tough so SHE has to be too
Dec 22nd 2006
18
      i love the defiant sneer on her face when she said that.
Jan 05th 2007
22
Yeah, like you've seen a film about a transvestite teacher before.
Dec 21st 2006
3
The cast names are hilirious!
Dec 21st 2006
6
RE: The cast names are hilirious!
Dec 21st 2006
8
Hahahahah @ GTA
Dec 22nd 2006
17
How did I forget Chil Kong as the Store owner
Dec 21st 2006
9
this shit here:
Jan 06th 2007
30
Fucking MacDreamy bet not make her choose between him
Dec 21st 2006
7
hell guy ritchie is making madonna do it
Jan 05th 2007
20
      ^^^ Homewrecker
Jan 05th 2007
23
Bunny Colvin's gonna legalize drugs in school
Dec 21st 2006
10
Is Coolio on the soundtrack??
Dec 21st 2006
11
tell me WHYYYYYYYY are we
Jan 05th 2007
29
      lol
Jan 06th 2007
32
      lol
Jan 08th 2007
75
Will there be dancing and singing involved?
Dec 21st 2006
12
better yet...
Dec 21st 2006
13
Now see there's a film!
Dec 21st 2006
14
      This has Wesley Snipes written all over it
Jan 05th 2007
25
Nobody gets served
Jan 05th 2007
24
no but there IS a dancing scene
Jan 06th 2007
35
I'm loving that new Common though
Dec 22nd 2006
15
yep, definitely one of my Top 5 GAP commercials of all time
Dec 22nd 2006
16
      bwhahahahhahahahaha
Jan 06th 2007
40
      LMAO!!!
Jan 08th 2007
76
"WHY DOES IT MATTER WHAT COLOR I AM?"
Jan 05th 2007
19
we learnt to rite, we's free!!!!!
Jan 05th 2007
21
*breaks free from chains*
Jan 08th 2007
73
      *eats pork chops insteads of pigs feet*
Jan 08th 2007
79
This is implausible. Do black people really know how to write?
Jan 05th 2007
26
Ayy, fug yew, boddy, wee no how 2 rite good
Jan 05th 2007
28
      sea?! he nose hiss shyght!
Jan 06th 2007
33
           ^^nose who young Zoo be
Jan 06th 2007
34
so that's where the black okayplayers come from!
Jan 05th 2007
27
There's black people on Okayplayer?
Jan 06th 2007
36
      yeah, you cant tell because a white teacher taught them to speak so well
Jan 06th 2007
37
      Too well!
Jan 07th 2007
44
           Oh i know, he's SO well spoken
Jan 07th 2007
51
                wait, y'all mean this dude?
Jan 07th 2007
61
      wats "black people"...?
Jan 08th 2007
71
Hillary Swank>>>Harriet Tubman
Jan 06th 2007
31
truer words were never spoken
Jan 06th 2007
38
RE: truer words were never spoken
Jan 07th 2007
59
      RE: truer words were never spoken
Jan 08th 2007
78
HARRIET TUBMAN NEVER WON AN ACADEMY AWARD
Jan 06th 2007
39
      TWO, in fact
Jan 07th 2007
43
      Nor did she train under Mr. Miyagi
Jan 07th 2007
45
           THE KARATE KID WOULD TOTALLY KICK HARRIET TUBMAN'S ASS.
Jan 07th 2007
46
                DID HARRIET TUBMAN EVER PLAY A TRANSSEXUAL?
Jan 07th 2007
50
                She's the runaway favorite this year.
Jan 07th 2007
52
                     Have you heard her underground CD?
Jan 07th 2007
56
                          MC HARRY TUBBZ- RUNNIN YA RAILROAD
Jan 08th 2007
77
                The Karate Kid was a chump
Jan 07th 2007
60
                     her and ralph woulda went into "crane" and got their asses whupped
Jan 07th 2007
62
                     ^^^underestimates the power of the Cobra Kai
Jan 07th 2007
63
                          U.R. would have kicked that chump's ass
Jan 07th 2007
64
      Academy Awards did not exist when Tubman did her thing
Jan 07th 2007
58
           RE: Academy Awards did not exist when Tubman did her thing
Jan 07th 2007
65
                RE: Academy Awards did not exist when Tubman did her thing
Jan 07th 2007
66
Once a Marine, always a Marine
Jan 07th 2007
41
I liked this movie better as Dangerous Minds.
Jan 07th 2007
42
This is movie is craaaazy misleading
Jan 07th 2007
47
What? You mean she may have *exaggerated*?
Jan 07th 2007
49
      exactly
Jan 07th 2007
57
The radio spot is hilarious.
Jan 07th 2007
48
No...that is NOT the radio spot. You're joking, right?
Jan 08th 2007
67
wow
Jan 08th 2007
68
      Tis true!
Jan 08th 2007
69
I love how only white teachers can educate colored folk!
Jan 07th 2007
53
you should start by dancing with them and giving them "dap"
Jan 07th 2007
54
AmeriKKKa was kinda-sorta inspired. $9.7 mil box office, 4th place...
Jan 07th 2007
55
As I walk throuigh the vally of an over done script......
Jan 08th 2007
70
This reply made me chuckle....lol
Jan 08th 2007
72
Oh shit, they should've had Hillary wear locs
Jan 08th 2007
80
      HA! I smell Sequal..or broadway adaptation
Jan 08th 2007
81
this movie is why high school high was created.
Jan 08th 2007
74
Teachers ETHER teacher, say WHITE KIDS were in her class (swipe)
Jan 09th 2007
82

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1. "this looks orginal."
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Why didn't Hollywood think of this before?

  

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2. "it's refreshing to see Hollywood take a chance on something like this"
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4. "exactly, and she doesn't want to lock them up. she wants to understand!"
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did you see the other trailer where that black principal tells her she'd better follow the rules. she defiantly says "no, I wont.". I was like "OH SNAP!"

  

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5. "^^^MESSAAAAAAAAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
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18. "she uses tough love. the kids are tough so SHE has to be too"
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she walks into that classroom with the eye of the tiger

  

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22. "i love the defiant sneer on her face when she said that."
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>did you see the other trailer where that black principal
>tells her she'd better follow the rules. she defiantly says
>"no, I wont.". I was like "OH SNAP!"

that was the moment that summed up the entire movie, wasn't it?

i was like "OH, NO SHE DI'N'T!!!"

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3. "Yeah, like you've seen a film about a transvestite teacher before."
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Oh wait...

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6. "The cast names are hilirious!"
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They have a White Cop, Latin Inmate, Gangster Girl, and Black Student...I smell Oscar!

Jorge Luis Alvarez .... Maitre'D
Rock Anthony .... Honors Student

Dre Bowie .... Black student

Larry Cahn .... Prosecuting Attorney
Jennifer Camacho .... Student in the Main Class (attached)

Pat Carroll .... Miep Gies
Cody Chappel .... Bookstore Clerk

Liisa Cohen .... Brandy's Mom

Dominic Daniel .... Drug Dealer

Calvin Dean .... Gym Coach #2
Fidel De Leon Toledo .... Latino Student

Patrick Dempsey .... Scott Casey
Jason Finn .... Marcus
Jason Ford .... Black Student
David Gatt .... Student (attached)
Ryan Gill .... Black Student

Scott Glenn .... Steve Gruwell

David Goldsmith .... Janitor

Ricardo Gray .... Second Period Student

April L. Hernandez .... Eva
Nickolas Ray Hernandez .... Latin Inmate 7

Kristin Herrera .... Gloria

John Benjamin Hickey .... Brian Beskin
Blake Hightower .... Clive

Lisa Anne Hillman .... Young White Woman

John Kihm .... Teacher

Chil Kong .... Store owner

Diana Kyle .... Upset Restaurant Patron

Don Le .... Asian Student

Eddie Lee .... Second Period Student
Johnathan Madrid .... Little Boy
Mario .... Andre
Sechita McNair .... Gangster Girl

Ricardo Molina .... Eva's Father

Will Morales .... Paco
Angela Nesbitt .... 2nd Period Student

Anh Tuan Nguyen .... Ki
Ihuoma Ofordire .... Gang Member
Orock Orock .... Marcus's dead friend #1

Damontre Owens .... Black gang member

Carl Paoli .... Cop #1
Jeran Pascascio .... Marcus's dead friend #2
Denney Pierce .... Police Officer

Jennifer Quirino .... Hispanic Student
Danielle Renaud .... Fundraiser Attendee

Kirsten Roeters .... White Dinner Companion
Matthew Roseman .... Officer Porter

Jenn Shagrin .... White Girl

Robyn Sheridan .... Fair participant
Robin Skye .... PTA Lady
Ryan Smith .... Waiter

Tiffany Gabrielle Smith .... White Girl

Vanetta Smith .... Brandy
Abel Soto .... Latino Kid

Imelda Staunton .... Margaret Campbell

Mary Strong .... Female reporter

Hilary Swank .... Erin Gruwell

Joe Towne .... Obnoxious Waiter

Audia Tulloch .... Student
Heather Turman .... Honors Student

Adam Vanderwielen .... Policeman #1

Robert Vazquez .... Latino Gang Member

Dan Warner .... White Cop #1

Robert Wisdom .... Carl Cohn

Deance Wyatt .... Jamal Hill


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8. "RE: The cast names are hilirious!"
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This kinda made my day for reading material. It looks like a cast from a GRAND THEFT AUTO movie.

  

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17. "Hahahahah @ GTA"
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9. "How did I forget Chil Kong as the Store owner"
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30. "this shit here:"
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Orock Orock .... Marcus's dead friend #1

HA!

Only thing missing is Lil' Nigger Jim

  

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7. "Fucking MacDreamy bet not make her choose between him"
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and the black ghetto kidz... he gon LOSE every time, no homo
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20. "hell guy ritchie is making madonna do it"
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and the orphan is winning!

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23. "^^^ Homewrecker"
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and joke killer, btw
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10. "Bunny Colvin's gonna legalize drugs in school"
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He doesn't fuck around with meaningless stats.

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11. "Is Coolio on the soundtrack??"
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http://i.imgur.com/vPqCzVU.jpg

  

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29. "tell me WHYYYYYYYY are we"
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so BLIIIIIIIIIIIIND to see...

  

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32. "lol"
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75. "lol"
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12. "Will there be dancing and singing involved?"
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If so consider it oscar-worthy.

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13. "better yet..."
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is there Capoeira?

  

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14. "Now see there's a film!"
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A do-gooder comes in to teach dance to gangbangers who discover that it actually could be used as a fighting technique and they use it to kill their rivals. They become too powerful and the do-gooder has to take them on in the end to save the school.

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25. "This has Wesley Snipes written all over it"
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24. "Nobody gets served"
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There will be no dance-off between Bayside & Ike Turner High School.

  

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35. "no but there IS a dancing scene"
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where she "gets jiggy with it" with the kids

  

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15. "I'm loving that new Common though"
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40. "bwhahahahhahahahaha"
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haha

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19. ""WHY DOES IT MATTER WHAT COLOR I AM?""
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speak on it next karate kid!

  

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21. "we learnt to rite, we's free!!!!!"
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73. "*breaks free from chains*"
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*holds new born child to the sky*
*graduates from college*

  

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79. "*eats pork chops insteads of pigs feet*"
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26. "This is implausible. Do black people really know how to write?"
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I mean, aside from graffiti and tattoos of gang symbols?

I'm really not impressed with the story of "black people writing stories." Why don't they just speak normally and get real jobs like the rest of us?

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28. "Ayy, fug yew, boddy, wee no how 2 rite good"
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34. "^^nose who young Zoo be"
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27. "so that's where the black okayplayers come from!"
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36. "There's black people on Okayplayer?"
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37. "yeah, you cant tell because a white teacher taught them to speak so well"
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44. "Too well!"
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has anyone ever read an entire AFKAP of Darkness post?!?!?!?

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51. "Oh i know, he's SO well spoken"
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I mean, he really speaks well!

  

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61. "wait, y'all mean this dude?"
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http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/john_harris/index.html

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http://talestosuffice.com/
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71. "wats "black people"...?"
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V.

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31. "Hillary Swank>>>Harriet Tubman"
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Not!

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38. "truer words were never spoken"
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though, I guess these words weren't spoken either

or, did you say them as you were typing?

and if so, how did you pronounce ">>>>>>>"

  

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59. "RE: truer words were never spoken"
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>and if so, how did you pronounce ">>>>>>>"

oppresses

lol

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78. "RE: truer words were never spoken"
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>>and if so, how did you pronounce ">>>>>>>"
>
>oppresses
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>lol

I thought it was oppressasississis.

Or is it only pronounced that way if you have big breasasississis?

  

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39. "HARRIET TUBMAN NEVER WON AN ACADEMY AWARD"
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43. "TWO, in fact"
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*waits for Swank to win NAACP Image Award for her priceless performance in the colored community*

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45. "Nor did she train under Mr. Miyagi"
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46. "THE KARATE KID WOULD TOTALLY KICK HARRIET TUBMAN'S ASS."
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50. "DID HARRIET TUBMAN EVER PLAY A TRANSSEXUAL?"
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Nope--and that's why she doesn't have an Academy Award.

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52. "She's the runaway favorite this year."
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*rimshot*

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56. "Have you heard her underground CD?"
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I hear you can only get them in Ohio and Canada.

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77. "MC HARRY TUBBZ- RUNNIN YA RAILROAD"
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60. "The Karate Kid was a chump"
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I can't see him handling the Underground Railroad.

Run on, run off.

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62. "her and ralph woulda went into "crane" and got their asses whupped"
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TUBMAN DON'T PLAY DAT

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63. "^^^underestimates the power of the Cobra Kai"
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they were an Aryan karate machine (c)ESPN Sportsguy

Daniel handled all them fools. even Steve McQueen's son.

  

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64. "U.R. would have kicked that chump's ass"
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How you gonna wax on, wax off with chains on your limbs? Tubman would have saved his life, too.

<--- Blame this lady for Nutty.

  

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58. "Academy Awards did not exist when Tubman did her thing"
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Hattie McDaniels got one in her place (btw - they're not related).

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65. "RE: Academy Awards did not exist when Tubman did her thing"
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>Hattie McDaniels got one in her place (btw - they're not
>related).
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>


Are you SURE?

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66. "RE: Academy Awards did not exist when Tubman did her thing"
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>Are you SURE?
>
>

Well folks seem to think all these Dangerous Minds-like movies are alike (and they are), so some are bound to mistake Harriet for Hattie. lol

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41. "Once a Marine, always a Marine"
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*flips Minority Student #3*

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42. "I liked this movie better as Dangerous Minds."
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Michelle Pfieffer (pre-plkastic surgery)>>>>Hilary 'Man-Cock' Swank

  

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47. "This is movie is craaaazy misleading"
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Wilson High is NOT in the ghetto. Those racial tensions did NOT exist, even at that time. Here's an article from the Long Beach paper:

Local: Portrayal of Wilson environment, teacher Gruwell are unrealistic, some say.
By Kevin Butler, Staff writer
Article Launched: 01/06/2007 11:06:05 PM PST

LONG BEACH - Former Wilson English teacher Erin Gruwell - and her group of former students who called themselves "The Freedom Writers" - are once again in the national spotlight, thanks to a motion picture adaptation of the book based on the students' diaries.

Although Gruwell has been warmly received as she appears on national television programs such as "The View" to promote the movie that was released Friday, some Wilson teachers aren't applauding.

They have a different vision of Gruwell from that in the book and movie. Some see her as an excessive self-promoter who has hurt the school's reputation.

"Every teacher that I know that is worth their weight in salt talks about their students, their students, their students," said Brad Rudy, who worked as a substitute teacher while Gruwell was at Wilson and now is a permanent world history teacher there.

"People that knew Erin Gruwell knew that she talks about herself, herself and herself and then her students."

Some teachers, like Rudy, are upset about what they see as the negative and misleading portrayal of Wilson in the book and film.

Gruwell's supporters, including former Long Beach Superintendent Carl Cohn, have said they admire
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Gruwell's dedication to her students, some of whom recorded their personal struggles with issues like gang violence in their journal entries.

"She turned her classroom into a family," said Cohn, who led the Long Beach district from 1992 to 2002. "And this family was a positive substitute for the negatives - the really big-time negatives - in their lives."

Other Wilson teachers also praise Gruwell's ability to connect with students.

"Erin was a teacher that came in and gave the students the opportunity to dream, maybe for the first time," said Horace Hall, a government and economics teacher who was present during Gruwell's tenure.

Gruwell said some teachers have unfairly attacked her because she dressed formally and taught in unorthodox ways.

"I would never say that everyone was against me, because that's a generality that doesn't serve anyone's purpose," Gruwell said. "But there were unfortunately individuals who were very, very acerbic and very open about their disdain for me, and not just to me directly.

"It was behind my back to students, \ in the teachers' lounge."

Gruwell said she is being unfairly criticized as a self-promoter for attempting to be the face of badly needed education reform, she said.

"What I realized is that the media needed a spokesperson for our story," she said. "And although I would try to sometimes divert the interview from me to my students or to the cause, (journalists) always wanted to interview the educator because I was the catalyst for it."

The foundation she established after she left Wilson has used book proceeds to fund college scholarships for her former students. Gruwell also has trained other teachers in her instructional methods.

"So if I were self-promoting, I would have profited," she said. "I haven't."
Department drama

There were indications of tension within the Wilson English department during Gruwell's tenure, Cohn said.

Some employees at the school wrote Cohn saying "she ought to be reined in," he said. Cohn said he responded in writing that he supported Gruwell.

The controversy regarding her tenure at Wilson has been renewed in the wake of the release of the movie, which some say unfairly paints the East Long Beach high school as a dangerous, gang-plagued campus.

The movie, which takes place in the wake of the Rodney King riots, features graffiti being openly painted at school as well as a large melee on campus.

It also portrays simmering racial tension among students in Gruwell's classroom that has explosive potential, leading to physical confrontations in the film.

Rudy said that this portrait of Wilson is contrary to reality.

"It's not the blackboard jungle that the movie depicts it to be," he said.

Rudy said he worries that when he and other teachers mention to others that they teach at Wilson, those people will ask, "Is the school that bad?"

"And we are going to be defending ourselves from what amounts to a character assassination," he said.

Tension overstated?

Wilson English teacher Sue Westphal, who was an English department head during Gruwell's tenure and still teaches at the school, said that the "Freedom Writers" story portrays Wilson as a "gang-infested school where nobody cares."

At the time of the Rodney King riots there was a fight involving 20 or so kids at the campus, said Wilson teacher Hall.

Like any large, urban high school, there were occasional fights at Wilson, but "kids I think felt pretty safe at school," he said.

Hall says that he's not worried about the movie giving Wilson a bad reputation, because the film is focused on Gruwell's classroom, not the entire campus.

Most of the action at Wilson takes place inside Swank's classroom, he noted.

Former Long Beach school board member Karin Polacheck, who is portrayed in the movie, said that any urban high school "is going to have issues and problems."

"Do I think it was overstated? Probably," she added.

Although some of Gruwell's students had been exposed to gangs, "I don't think that the story was dependent on that," Polacheck said.

"What Erin did with individual students had very little to do with the portrayal of the gang infestation and that kind of thing, other than where her kids came from," she said.
Composite characters

The movie's negative portrayals of two fictional staff members - an honors teacher and English department head that Gruwell says are composites - have also caused a stir.

In the movie, the English department head makes disparaging remarks about Gruwell's students, telling her that she can't make the kids want an education.

The male honors teacher also can be heard making what could be viewed as a vague, racist remark about the influx of minority students to the campus via busing.

In an incident drawn from the book, that teacher also makes a black student uncomfortable by asking for the black perspective on reading material.

Some say that scenes like those will reflect badly on other Wilson teachers.

The Freedom Writers story falsely implies that "no one cared about kids until she arrived," said Wilson drama teacher Randy Bowden.

"I've never heard a racist statement from a teacher in 35 years" at Wilson, Bowden said.
Suits and pearls

Gruwell said that she did face resistance from some English teachers.

Gruwell said a teacher told her she was making other teachers "look bad" by taking her kids on field trips. She was also told before she received a freshman class of at-risk students, "Let's see what you can do with these kids, hotshot," she said.

Some of those sentiments were fueled by Gruwell's business suits and pearls, and her peppy demeanor, said Gruwell, who has said there were some "phenomenal" teachers in the English department and Wilson as a whole.

She chose not to respond to the critics, instead opting to ignore the sources of the "negativity," she said.

"I fight back with success," she said. "I always felt that I was not here to win Miss Congeniality of the teachers' lounge. I was there to teach kids English."

Gruwell said that the two characters were much more negatively portrayed in an initial vision of the movie, but she successfully battled to have them "softened" for the final result.
Book dispute

In the film, the department head - a character named Margaret Campbell - is reluctant to give Swank copies of "The Diary of Anne Frank" because her students might lose or damage them.

When Swank suggests the class read "Romeo and Juliet," Campbell, portrayed by actress Imelda Staunton, suggests an abridged version, saying Swank's students couldn't handle the full text.

Westphal, who was an English department head during Gruwell's tenure at Wilson, disagrees with the portrayal of those events.

As far as the Anne Frank incident is concerned, she said that Gruwell "had free access to the book room." Gruwell was also free to use the full text, rather than the abridged version, Westphal added.

In fact, Westphal said she read one of the books Gruwell wanted to use in her class - "Night" by Holocaust survivor Elie Wiesel - and ordered it for the following year.

Westphal calls "baloney" Gruwell's statement that her business suits were off-putting.

"Everybody was wearing suits and dresses back then," she said.

David Beard, who was Wilson's head counselor during Gruwell's tenure, said that the Campbell character is a "Hollywood exaggeration."

Campbell "seems to be a composite of every single negative thing that was said about Erin" during her time at Wilson, said Beard, who has expressed support and admiration for Gruwell's work and sits on the advisory board of her foundation.

As to how such tensions are portrayed in the film, ex-superintendent Cohn said, "I think Hollywood on some of those things has its formulas that it uses.
Class continuity

Another source of unrest: Gruwell's highly unusual request to keep her kids for all four years of high school.

The request raised serious concerns, Beard said. If, after freshman year, she took control of a 10th grade class of the same group of students, what would the original 10th grade teacher do instead?

The fear was especially pronounced as the senior year approached, he added.

The department made the arrangement workable by making Gruwell's senior course an elective, Beard said. There were enough retirements and transfers during the four years to accommodate the unusual schedule changes, Beard added.

One of the most dramatic parts of the film's storyline is Swank's effort to get permission to continue with her students until their senior year.

In the film, Gruwell and Campbell - who opposes the move - meet with Cohn and Polacheck. Each makes her case in a dramatic moment.

In reality, the decisions each year to allow Gruwell to continue having her kids the following year were not a major, divisive issue, Beard said.

"We worked it out," he said.

That dramatic meeting in the movie actually never took place, according to Cohn and Polacheck.

As a board member, she wasn't involved in such school-specific decisions, Polacheck said.

During her students' freshman year, Gruwell was assigned to teach what could be called "regular" English classes, as opposed to those reserved for more advanced students.

Gruwell said her students had low standardized test scores. Some of them were ESL students, and others were from detention homes, she said.

But her classes became popular, and there were many students who wanted to transfer in, Beard said.

"Our difficulty was keeping kids in their own English classes," he said.

Unlike in the movie, where an honors teacher is infuriated when one of his students wants to enter Gruwell's class, such transfers were not really "that big of a deal" to teachers, Beard said.

"There were a lot of teachers at Wilson in the English department who thought she was doing a marvelous job," Beard said.

Beard said that the media attention Gruwell and her students received may have made some teachers jealous.

"Some had the notion that 'Hey, one of our own is getting all these headlines and all these accolades,"' Beard said. "'And we work as hard as she does, and who ever comes and talks to us?' And that was a normal human reaction to that kind of thing."

Westphal said she is not jealous of Gruwell.

"I am very happy with what I've done in my profession," she said.

Gruwell "really did some good things, but she created problems as well," she said.
Education debate

The larger message of the movie is the positive impact of a high school teacher who makes a new connection with teenagers in the classroom, said Cohn, who is now superintendent of the San Diego Unified School District. Research shows that that tactic helps learning, he said.

"I hope the movie really joins the debate on secondary school reform," he said.

Polacheck said she understands why some at Wilson may be upset with the movie.

"If I were at Wilson now or if I were a parent of a Wilson student, I would say that's not what my school is like," she said. "And this is Hollywood. There is no question that this is not a documentary ... But the big story is what Erin did in the classroom and how she made a difference with those students."

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49. "What? You mean she may have *exaggerated*?"
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Oh, my God! Next thing you know, they'll be telling me there aren't any WMDs in Iraq!

I don't know why this teacher hasn't won a Nobel Peace Prize yet.

Oh--wait. She isn't teaching high school anymore. She's a college professor. So much for her love of the ig'nunt chirren.

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57. "exactly"
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sounds like these people are trippin over nothing...of course a movie/book will exxagerate certain accounts...

and God forbid if she wants to talk about herself....

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48. "The radio spot is hilarious."
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"It doesn't matter what color you are in Long Beach. White, black, latino? You'll still get blasted when you go outside."

GOMD

  

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67. "No...that is NOT the radio spot. You're joking, right?"
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Cmon thats too ridiculous to be true.

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68. "wow"
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69. "Tis true!"
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I always crack up when I hear it.

GOMD

  

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53. "I love how only white teachers can educate colored folk!"
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I don't even know why I try to teach them...given my black skin and all.


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54. "you should start by dancing with them and giving them "dap""
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it makes them feel like you're one of them. you're probably out of touch.

>I don't even know why I try to teach them...given my black
>skin and all.

  

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55. "AmeriKKKa was kinda-sorta inspired. $9.7 mil box office, 4th place..."
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Meanwhile, Dreamgirls, the singing-dancing Negro extravaganza, continues to kick ass, coming in 5th but still having the highest per-screen average of the top 5, word to Ben Vereen...
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70. "As I walk throuigh the vally of an over done script......"
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Call Coolio...tell him to stock up on lokes and wires for his braids this ones a keeper!

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72. "This reply made me chuckle....lol"
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all sorts of clever

~"You are your own best thing" (c) Paul D in BELOVED

  

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80. "Oh shit, they should've had Hillary wear locs"
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there could be a scene where she enters the classroom with locs and a backwards Raider cap, Starter jacket, pants saggin'. The class would laugh at her which would play right into her hands. She could point out that they're laughing because of how ridiculous she looks, and she can point out, that's what society thinks of them.

they'd all return to class the next day with izod shirts and sweaters tied around their neck. y'know, acceptable attire for the real world

  

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81. "HA! I smell Sequal..or broadway adaptation"
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This is why i keep coming back.LOL

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74. "this movie is why high school high was created."
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Nowadays silence is looked on as odd and most of my race has forgotten the beauty of meaning much by saying little."

-- From Toni Morrison's new book, "Love"

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82. "Teachers ETHER teacher, say WHITE KIDS were in her class (swipe)"
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Turns out they didn't Keep It Real after all. From the L.A. Times:

>Did 'Writers' get it wrong?

The portrayal of a Long Beach high school in 'Freedom Writers' raises hackles in the city. The teacher who inspired the film speaks up for it.

By Gina Piccalo
Times Staff Writer

January 9, 2007

Woodrow Wilson High School in Long Beach is one of the school district's jewels. Situated near million-dollar homes, it's considered a "learning academy" where uniformed students study classics and others vie to make its waiting list.

But in the new Hilary Swank film "Freedom Writers," that same school is portrayed as a beaten-down inner-city nightmare, run by bitter burned-out teachers and populated with well-armed students.

"Anybody who knows Long Beach knows the high school is nothing like that," said Long Beach Unified School District Supt. Chris Steinhauser.

Despite that, Steinhauser considered the film uplifting. But other Long Beach residents — like the subjects of other true-life stories — are appalled at the Hollywood version. They aren't happy with its portrayal of the true story of Long Beach teacher Erin Gruwell and her at-risk students, saying it offers an oversimplified, insulting narrative about the community: poor racial minorities triumph over lazy, jealous teachers and The Man.

The Freedom Writers — Gruwell's 150 students who named themselves for the civil rights group — included Caucasian and middle-class students, the critics point out. One was the popular football quarterback. Wilson High's students also came from affluent Eastside neighborhoods with waterfront mansions, and plenty of teachers at the high school helped Gruwell and her cause.

Gruwell and writer-director Richard LaGravenese stand by the film, which opened Friday to a modest $9.7 million. They spent six years crafting the screenplay, with Gruwell and her students guiding LaGravenese's drafts. Much of it was taken directly from "The Freedom Writers Diaries," a collection of excerpts from the students' journals that offers an often wrenching account of their home lives.

Gruwell and LaGravenese stress that the movie takes place from 1993 to 1998, when Long Beach and Wilson High were much tougher than they are today. Gruwell says her classes were as they appear in the film: predominantly made up of African Americans, Latinos and Asians. The white, middle-class students, Gruwell says, only joined after word spread of her teaching methods. As for the gritty look of the film, Gruwell says that the classroom in the movie is an exact replica and that filming couldn't take place at Wilson because the school district demanded too high a location fee from Paramount Pictures. Two L.A. schools — Hamilton and University high schools in West Los Angeles — were used instead. (Paramount declined to comment.)

"People who are making comments don't know the true story," Gruwell said. "When you take a subject matter of intolerance, we had to look at every single angle of a story to bring it to life. When it comes to complexities of race, people need to talk about the fact that this is an enormous city that has been compartmentalized."

The controversy comes at a particularly sensitive time for locals. Long Beach is one of the most diverse cities in America, with the third largest school district in the state and a community of both great wealth and extreme poverty. Ten African American teenagers are now on trial for the brutal Halloween night attack in affluent Bixby Knolls of three white women, an incident police are calling a hate crime.

The city has worked hard to distance itself from the image popularized in the songs of rap artist Snoop Dogg, such as the gang-banging, drug-infested "LBC." "Freedom Writers," they say, will only recast the community as dangerous.

"We're not in Wyoming," said Wilson High School parent and alum Ben Goldberg. "But we're not in Watts, either."

"Judging from the film, you'd think that no teacher had ever tried this," wrote Long Beach Press-Telegram film critic Glenn Whipp on Friday. "Worse, you'd guess that apart from the noble Gruwell, no other teacher cares…. Gruwell's work is noteworthy, but it is by no means unusual, despite the film's cartoon-like portrayals of her bitter, envious and, in one case, racist colleagues."

Whatever qualms Long Beach residents may have about the movie, they turned out en masse to see it last weekend, giving the city the largest turnout in the country. At a local showing that Gruwell and some of her Freedom Writers attended, Gruwell said that audience members asked for autographs from her students. The website for her nonprofit, FreedomWriters Foundation.org, meanwhile, got 29,000 hits after the film's release, a significant increase.

"Freedom Writers" details the well-publicized success of Gruwell, who as a student teacher inspired her racially diverse classes to bond as a family, commit themselves to their education and, most famously, publish their diary excerpts, which they did, to wide acclaim.

Though many of Gruwell's students came from supportive homes, others survived homelessness, domestic violence, gang killings and sexual abuse, and still graduated from high school (only one earned a GED). About half graduated from college, and a dozen or more are pursuing teaching degrees. "The Freedom Writers Diaries" was published by Doubleday in 1999 and is now in its 22nd printing.

Longtime Gruwell supporter Fran Sawdei lashed back at those who have accused Gruwell of spending too much time teaching her kids tolerance or guiding them on life skills and neglecting to give them the basics. It was a charge that surfaced indirectly during a recent interview to promote the film.

"I know Barbara Walters on 'The View' kept saying, 'Did you teach them math? And did you teach them English?' All this harping on the academics," said Sawdei, of Huntington Beach, whose son attended Wilson with the Freedom Writers and who has worked with Gruwell since then.

"(But) she gave those kids manners, she gave them etiquette, she gave them connections," said Sawdei. "She really taught them skills for life."

In a Sunday article in the Long Beach Press-Telegram, Wilson High teacher Brad Rudy called Gruwell self-promoting, talking more about her own achievements than those of her students. In response, Gruwell said she has "never taken one penny" from the Freedom Writers and, in fact, has spent much of her income to support them.

"I think my students' success speaks for itself," she said. "There's always going to be naysayers who are opposed to change. I am truly an advocate for change."

Ultimately, no one can deny Gruwell's achievements. And even those miffed over the liberties the film takes say the true story is uplifting.

"Nobody wants to see their city or their school district portrayed in any kind of negative light, particularly something that's more than a decade old," said Long Beach Mayor Bob Foster. "But you've got to take this in stride. The people that live here know what the city's about."
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6. Miami Vice 7. Marie Antoinette 8. Inside Man 9. Brick 10. United 93

  

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