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"The Official Superman Returns Post"
Sun Jun-25-06 09:14 PM by Frank Longo

          

So this week is the return of Superman.....and it's about damm time.

I remember the announcement of the next Superman film ("Superman Lives", "Superman Reborn", etc.) and the news/rumors behind the film. Tim Burton was supposedly directing, Nic Cage was playing Superman, Chris Rock was playing Jimmy Olsen, Lex and Braniac were involved (now that I didn't mind), a possible "Death Of Superman" story with Doomsday and some changes were going to be made to Superman. I wore the fabric of hate when it came to the casting rumors (ESPECIALLY Nic Cage), but there were a lot of things with the story that really made go wtf (Ex: when Kevin Smith talked about his work on the movie script and the damm robot spider that Jon Peters wanted.).

A couple of years pass and we have more drama and the revolving door of directors (Michael Bay, Brett Ratner, McG, etc.) and screenplay writers. When some of the details of the many scripts surfaced, I couldn't believe most of it (see: J.J. Abrams's bad script). While some scripts had Braniac involved in some way (Supes shouldn't fight Lex 24-7), some had Lex being revealed as a Kryptonian, Krypton never blowing up, and other wtf moments. When Ratner was involved before Singer and wanted Tom Welling from "Smallville" to play Superman and Anthony Hopkins to play Jor-El, I thought that it would have been cool to see that (and the Alex Ross picture of Tom as Superman was pretty damm good). When that fell though, I didn't think that a Superman movie would be made for a long time after all the money spent on this.

But after 17 years in development hell, we finally get to see a new Superman movie.....

Just like "Superman Lives", there were things that I didn't care for. The main things that I had beef with were A: the damm costume and B: the story (Lois having a kid? A sequel to "Superman" and "Superman II"? LOIS HAVING A KID?). As much as I didn't want to see Supes with no powers fighting a damm robot spider, my interest in this movie wasn't that big at first. I wanted to see a rebooted movie like "Batman Begins" or one based on S:TAS (hell, you have a decent origin story in the show). But thanks to the trailers and behind the scenes, my interest did increase big time. The casting didn't bother me that much.....I always thought that Kevin Spacey would make a great Lex. I understand why Bryan Singer wanted a newcomer and even though it would have been cool to see Welling as Superman, Brandon Routh is a good choice.

Part of me is still a bit skeptical about it (and the damm suit still bothers me), but I will definitely check it out. Maybe we'll see a "World's Finest" movie with Christian Bale's Batman or a Justice League movie if it's successful....or another wait for a better Superman movie if it sucks.

  

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Subject Author Message Date ID
You down with B-A-T? Yeah you know me
Jun 27th 2006
1
6"4...
Jun 28th 2006
33
what happened to the other official Superman returns post?
Jun 27th 2006
2
RE: what happened to the other official Superman returns post?
Jun 27th 2006
6
Fuck y'all who've seen it already
Jun 27th 2006
3
Dope film...I love the part where he.....
Jun 27th 2006
4
Hopefully I will see the IMAX version tomorrow night.
Jun 27th 2006
5
tonight...10PM central time....I'm there
Jun 27th 2006
7
Superman fights for Truth, Justice, and "all that stuff"?
Jun 27th 2006
8
context clues. Check em out.
Jun 27th 2006
9
Here's why, according to Bryan Singer (swipe)
Jun 27th 2006
10
Ebert shat on it
Jun 27th 2006
11
from the review you could tell he knows nothing about supes
Jun 27th 2006
13
Ebert's not too far off, he just draws his conclusions a bit harshly
Jun 28th 2006
35
Has Ebert ever read a comic book in his life?
Jul 03rd 2006
141
my roommate's a Superman fanatic
Jun 27th 2006
12
RE: my roommate's a Superman fanatic
Jun 27th 2006
15
Sheesh, man... Wun't no set up AT ALL!!!
Jun 28th 2006
20
The local theater has 4 10:00 shows.
Jun 27th 2006
14
Im hyped about it...
Jun 27th 2006
16
Goddamn, that was GOOD!!
Jun 28th 2006
17
Good flick. Superman is that nigga!
Jun 28th 2006
18
Wait..Routh plays Steel? n/m
Jun 28th 2006
36
DC LOST.
Jun 28th 2006
19
the flying in Matrix looked awful though
Jun 28th 2006
40
RE: the flying in Matrix looked awful though
Jun 28th 2006
53
i finally saw it
Jul 16th 2006
180
I thought she could "die" from that.....
Jun 28th 2006
21
Yo thats just what we were all saying once the lights came up.
Jun 29th 2006
70
Mallrats discussed this quite thoroughly
Jun 29th 2006
90
      "Only way he could do it is with a kryptonite condom..."
Jul 05th 2006
168
Definitely worth the ticket
Jun 28th 2006
22
I give it...about 4 outta 5 stars
Jun 28th 2006
23
couple more thoughts/questions
Jun 28th 2006
30
      Yeah
Jun 28th 2006
61
the acting was great, but that story was fuckin dumb.
Jun 28th 2006
24
RE: the acting was great, but that story was fuckin dumb.
Jun 28th 2006
25
zzzzzzzzzzzzzz...
Jun 28th 2006
26
@#$%^&!
Jun 28th 2006
50
*whispers in your ear* it's based on a 68-year old comic book.
Jul 03rd 2006
142
cosign this cosign
Jul 05th 2006
167
the story was great
Jun 28th 2006
37
story was great
Jul 16th 2006
182
WAY BETTER THAN X-MEN but the story was kinda blah.
Jun 28th 2006
27
Over X3, Singer wins, but this dont beat Batman Begins
Jun 28th 2006
28
I agree with pretty much all of this...
Jun 29th 2006
82
      RE: I agree with pretty much all of this...
Jun 30th 2006
105
      RE: I agree with pretty much all of this...
Jun 30th 2006
106
           the space plane rescue was Supe's intro the the world in the '86 reboot
Jul 04th 2006
159
This movie was not 1/2 as good as you guys make it sound
Jun 28th 2006
29
these 3 things are just straight lies, no other way to describe it
Jun 28th 2006
31
      The best superhero movie ever.
Jun 28th 2006
32
           I think I still prefer The Incredibles & Spiderman 2
Jun 28th 2006
38
           your idea would be disastrous if's true
Jul 01st 2006
120
routh and the costume were exquisite
Jun 28th 2006
34
forget the movie, let's talk about the audience
Jun 28th 2006
39
those geeks ruined the movie for me
Jun 28th 2006
42
      Midnight showings are for geeks...
Jun 28th 2006
46
           RE: Midnight showings are for geeks...
Jun 28th 2006
47
stay tuned after the credits for a special sneak preview
Jun 28th 2006
41
RE: stay tuned after the credits for a special sneak preview
Jun 28th 2006
43
*Richard Does the 'I Ain't the Daddy' Dance*
Jun 28th 2006
44
      lmao
Jun 29th 2006
69
      LMAO
Jul 05th 2006
169
^^^^ HILL ^^^^^
Jun 28th 2006
54
Houston got mentioned in the same sentence as Gotham!!!
Jun 28th 2006
45
RE: Houston got mentioned in the same sentence as Gotham!!!
Jun 28th 2006
49
Actually, I realized a half-hour in that Bosworth looks a lot like
Jul 03rd 2006
143
I give it a B+
Jun 28th 2006
48
The iMAX here is sold out
Jun 28th 2006
51
Well worth the ticket. (kinda spoilish)
Jun 28th 2006
52
AKA Superman Man "5"
Jun 28th 2006
55
every review i've read and heard
Jun 28th 2006
56
RE: every review i've read and heard
Jun 28th 2006
57
Are these reviews you speak of
Jun 28th 2006
58
not a good movie
Jun 28th 2006
59
good start to a new franchise....
Jun 28th 2006
60
but why did the kid seem uneffected by kryptonite
Jun 28th 2006
62
explanation
Jun 28th 2006
63
      yo didnt lois forget everything at the end of the second flick
Jun 29th 2006
67
           Thats what i wanna know if she forgot everythng
Jul 10th 2006
177
Good, not great
Jun 28th 2006
64
RE: The Official Superman Returns Post
Jun 28th 2006
65
2nd Time Around
Jun 28th 2006
66
My two-and-a-half cents. (Spoilers are Lurking)
Jun 29th 2006
68
RE: My two-and-a-half cents. (Spoilers are Lurking)
Jun 29th 2006
93
      Good reply.
Jun 30th 2006
100
      LOL i feel you there. the only thing i could think of while watching
Jun 30th 2006
107
      I newver saw an ugly Lois Lane come out of Joe Shuster's pen.
Jul 03rd 2006
144
           i don't care. the movies of my childhood improved on the comics
Jul 03rd 2006
150
It was GOOD & Im not a Supes fan.....
Jun 29th 2006
71
as a big supes fan i really think it did the character justice
Jun 29th 2006
75
      Wait! WHAT?
Jun 29th 2006
92
      You are nuts
Jul 07th 2006
174
The those who saw the 3-D version....
Jun 29th 2006
72
A-/B+
Jun 29th 2006
73
x-3 was like a c- at best, but yea i agree a-
Jun 29th 2006
76
thread, please holla back at me....
Jun 29th 2006
74
oh absolutely
Jun 29th 2006
77
i dig the mystery IF it will ultimately be explained....
Jun 29th 2006
87
The point of the movie wasn't to understand *why* he was gone,
Jun 29th 2006
81
      you're right, that wasn't the POINT....
Jun 29th 2006
86
anyone else kinda dislike how pa kent is replace by jor-l
Jun 29th 2006
78
the human parents were kinda downplayed
Jun 29th 2006
79
I was not feelin' it at ALL
Jun 29th 2006
80
A surprisingly somber, inert movie.
Jun 29th 2006
83
so what do the kids think of Superman Returns?
Jun 29th 2006
84
I wanted the effect of his 5 year absence explored more....
Jun 29th 2006
85
i agree...
Jun 29th 2006
88
yeah, we got the emotional side of it
Jun 29th 2006
89
me too
Jul 16th 2006
184
Fan-fucking-tastic.
Jun 29th 2006
91
The Ultimate Question (SUPREME SPOILER)
Jun 29th 2006
94
Superman 2 and the kiss at the end
Jul 01st 2006
115
I guess enough spoilers have dropped. On with the nitpicking...
Jun 29th 2006
95
RE: I guess enough spoilers have dropped. On with the nitpicking...
Jun 29th 2006
96
No niggas in Metropolis...
Jun 29th 2006
97
      Not even the criminals were black!!
Jul 04th 2006
161
RE: I guess enough spoilers have dropped. On with the nitpicking...
Jun 30th 2006
101
More questions:
Jul 01st 2006
116
I can't even call it.
Jul 01st 2006
119
RE: I guess enough spoilers have dropped. On with the nitpicking...
Jul 01st 2006
123
^^^ BRYAN SINGER
Jul 02nd 2006
129
wow, I didn't like the movie but you went above and beyond
Feb 20th 2007
190
Cyclops... you are NOT the father.
Jun 29th 2006
98
*draws YO THOUGHTS AINT MY THOUGHTS in the ceiling with heat vision*
Jun 29th 2006
99
      superman sucked!!!
Jun 30th 2006
102
IMAX 3D
Jun 30th 2006
103
RE: IMAX 3D
Jun 30th 2006
108
      RE: IMAX 3D
Jun 30th 2006
109
           RE: IMAX 3D
Jun 30th 2006
111
Superman Returns was Depressing...
Jun 30th 2006
104
i was thinking the same thing
Jun 30th 2006
110
dog your missing the entire point of superman
Jul 01st 2006
118
      that's all true but you completly bipassed the moral decisions Superman ...
Jul 01st 2006
121
           Wait..does Louise not remember being impregnated?
Jul 01st 2006
122
                RE: Wait..does Louise not remember being impregnated?
Jul 02nd 2006
130
                Watch the old Christopher Reeves' movies. This movie is...
Jul 04th 2006
160
Well worth the admission
Jun 30th 2006
112
Just returned from the theater
Jul 01st 2006
113
The highlight: The Spider-Man trailer.
Jul 01st 2006
114
I may see it again, this time with the thesis that it was
Jul 01st 2006
117
it was 25 years ago that supes "hit without a condom".
Jul 01st 2006
124
Plus, do you really think that latex is stopping Kryptonian sperm?
Jul 02nd 2006
136
bunch of haters here
Jul 01st 2006
125
wow...i'm *really* glad i'm not a comic nerd
Jul 01st 2006
126
oh, and i love the fact that cyclops gets fucked yet AGAIN
Jul 01st 2006
127
It bored me
Jul 02nd 2006
128
James Marsden is the poster boy
Jul 02nd 2006
131
yes, and i love it
Jul 02nd 2006
132
for real & it's his niche market. that's his career right there.
Jul 03rd 2006
148
      Started w/ Ally McBeal
Jul 03rd 2006
153
lol, I was gonna make this post
Jul 04th 2006
162
RE: The Official Superman Returns Post
Jul 02nd 2006
133
RE: The Official Superman Returns Post
Jul 02nd 2006
134
      this is my ONE big gripe....
Jul 02nd 2006
135
only thing i wanted to add was Kate got NO ass.
Jul 02nd 2006
137
Jeah noticed that 2.
Jul 03rd 2006
154
84 million this week (52 over the weekend)
Jul 02nd 2006
138
horrible opening
Jul 02nd 2006
139
Lol both at your comment & username
Jul 05th 2006
170
Y'ALL HATIN'
Jul 03rd 2006
140
my comments on y'all's comments. *spoilers*
Jul 03rd 2006
145
      RE: my comments on y'all's comments. *spoilers*
Jul 03rd 2006
146
      i'm completely with you
Jul 03rd 2006
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      RE: my comments on y'all's comments. *spoilers*
Jul 04th 2006
155
           Didn't Lois know Clark was Supes?
Jul 04th 2006
156
           If you remember from Christopher Reeve's Superman run....
Jul 05th 2006
166
                yeah that was in part 2.
Jul 07th 2006
173
                     3 and 4 no longer exist in the continuity.
Jul 08th 2006
175
                     i'm sorry. i blocked part 4 from my memory years ago.
Jul 13th 2006
179
it was good
Jul 03rd 2006
149
winning a pulitzer for an article called
Jul 03rd 2006
151
Same thing that I thought
Jul 17th 2006
188
My SO went to go see it last night @ an IMAX theatre w/o me.
Jul 03rd 2006
152
can't wait to see this!
Jul 04th 2006
157
did advanced Kryptonian technology never invent landing gears?
Jul 04th 2006
158
hey everyone, let's play "spot the Christ reference"!
Jul 04th 2006
163
all he needed to do was cross one of his legs over
Jul 05th 2006
165
JOR-EL: So I gave the earthlings YOU, my only son.
Jul 05th 2006
171
THAT SHIT WAS WACK.
Jul 05th 2006
164
Eh, I thought it was semi good, worth my free ticket tho
Jul 06th 2006
172
...oh, and who the hell is "Louise", y'all?
Jul 08th 2006
176
i saw it in 3D & was happy...
Jul 13th 2006
178
no homo but shouldnt they have stuffed his pants a little bit?
Jul 16th 2006
181
RE: no homo but shouldnt they have stuffed his pants a little bit?
Jul 16th 2006
186
what i didnt get was how she got pregnant
Jul 16th 2006
183
RE: what i didnt get was how she got pregnant
Jul 16th 2006
187
If they ever wanted to get Richard out of the story
Jul 16th 2006
185
wow this movie was totally mediocre
Feb 20th 2007
189

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1. "You down with B-A-T? Yeah you know me"
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Batman Begins had a year of prep time on this movie and will find a way to make sure it does not gross as much! Just kidding I am excited for this movie altough I still think Routh is too small to play Superman.


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33. "6"4..."
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but you'll see when u see the movie.

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2. "what happened to the other official Superman returns post?"
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6. "RE: what happened to the other official Superman returns post?"
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it's gone anyways, I understand, I mean...his name has Superman in it. Anyways, I saw it last night...people are in for a treat. I want to see people's reaction the last 20-30 minutes. It's probably one of the best Emotional driven acts in a movie.


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3. "Fuck y'all who've seen it already"
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I really mean it.

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4. "Dope film...I love the part where he....."
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He gets weak from

And the part where he lifts up that

And the other part where he flys around the

Oh and the and at the end where he battles Lex...OMG wow

Best film of the decade!

  

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5. "Hopefully I will see the IMAX version tomorrow night."
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7. "tonight...10PM central time....I'm there"
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8. "Superman fights for Truth, Justice, and "all that stuff"?"
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I haven't seen it, so what is the context for this change in the movie? What character actually says this?

I'll reserve judgement until I see it, but my initial reaction to hearing about this change is that the writer's chose a lame substitute for "Truth, Justice, and the American way". They should have just left it at "Truth and Justice" and called it a day. "All that stuff" seems less virtuous for Superman's values.

Yeah, it's just a petty nitpick about a movie about a fictitious character so who cares, but lame or lazy writing bugs me.

  

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9. "context clues. Check em out."
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It was a newsroom. That was an editor. He was giving assignments. It's ok.

  

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10. "Here's why, according to Bryan Singer (swipe)"
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from ew.com:

>Warm up that Kryptonian-language version of The Star Spangled Banner: Superman is one angry immigrant.

Seems columnist Jeanne Wolf has seized on that moment in the Superman Returns trailer where Daily Planet editor Perry White (Frank Langella) asks, "Does he still stand for truth, justice, all that stuff?"

All that stuff? asks Jeanne. What happened to the American way? An awful lot since 1945, is the answer tendered by screenwriters Dan Harris and Mike Dougherty. Also, says director Bryan Singer, there were international markets to consider. He intends Superman to be a global savior, not a nativist/isolationist.
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11. "Ebert shat on it"
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http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060626/REVIEWS/60606009

  

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13. "from the review you could tell he knows nothing about supes"
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so screw that guy!


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35. "Ebert's not too far off, he just draws his conclusions a bit harshly"
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I can't refute too many of his points, but I fail to see how he managed to cook a meager 2-star review out of his beefs. I think somebody hates Superman.

His expectations of the Planet staff seem a little nitpicky. Personally I didn't find the characterizations too far off from the original franchise. Plus, it's been 5 years. Maybe Perry White has softened with age. He never struck me as the J Jonah Jameson type to begin with.

The casting was fine with me, as was Superman's lack of dialogue. It gives him a sense of mystery I think. Read Grant Morrison's 'All-Star Superman'. The title character barely says a word in that book, and it works.

I'll ride for Roger on the action sequences. I thought they were pretty breathtaking visually, but conceptually they basically amounted to 'Superman does heavy lifting'

As for the ridiculousness of Lex's plan and the whole 'kryptonite' issue. He's right. But he might as well complain about how nobody notices Clark and Superman look exactly alike. It's a comic book movie, Ebert. You've reviewed a few in your time. You should know the drill by now: Suspend your disbelief, if not your snark.

And I can't begin to imagine how much THIS would have pissed fans off:

"It would have been fun to give Superman a bright, sassy child, like one of the Spy Kids, and make him a part of the plot."

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141. "Has Ebert ever read a comic book in his life?"
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or is he simply comparing this film to the Christopher Reeve movie(s), as is those films are THE defining characterizations of the Superman characters. I didn't see one problem with the actors OR their characterizations. In fact, I daresay that Sam Huntington pulled of the truest Jimmy Olsen I've yet to see.

  

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12. "my roommate's a Superman fanatic"
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and he hated it.

*hinted spoilers* he said they took way too much liberty with that big twist & i agree

its not a good set-up for the next one at all
*DEFINITE SPOILER* fuck are they gonna call it? Superman: Baby Mama Drama


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15. "RE: my roommate's a Superman fanatic"
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whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

  

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20. "Sheesh, man... Wun't no set up AT ALL!!!"
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And believe me, I was scanning for shit.

They could bury the entire franchise for good off they way they left shit...

  

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14. "The local theater has 4 10:00 shows."
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I'm trying to cop a ticket now.

  

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16. "Im hyped about it..."
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I'll be there tomorrow night

  

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17. "Goddamn, that was GOOD!!"
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I really can't say much more...except I am going again tomorrow. I must. The power of Geek compels me.

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18. "Good flick. Superman is that nigga!"
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Buds all around!

  

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36. "Wait..Routh plays Steel? n/m"
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19. "DC LOST."
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I won't be a dick and give spoilers and shit... cause it's been leaked months ago.

This is commentary on the actual film as a whole.

...

•Acting:

Kevin Spacey does his thing, and actually kinda falls in place where Hackman left off... Doesn't go overboard with it at all.

Brandon Routh. He does channel Christopher Reeve as Clark Kent, but not so much as Superman. In fact, I found his performance to be rather wooden in spots. Maybe he'll loosen up in the future.

Kate Bosworth. This is a different Lois Lane, IMO. Maybe more true to the comics than the previous films... I dunno. Good performance.

•Visual Effects:

In today's Hollywood, visual effects are more realistic than ever. That said, this film (IMO again) broke NO new ground. We've seen the action and flying in The Matrix. We've seen the locales/backdrops in the "Harry Potter" and "Lord of the Rings" flicks. And we've seen a better looking hero costume in the "Spider-Man" films. (Yeah, I'm a little biased... FUCK OFF! lol)

•Cinematography:

This was shot using a digital movie camera, aping traditional film. Maybe it'll look better with digital projection or in IMAX or DVD. I can't call it. The sets were dope, blending 30s styles with modern styles... but that's about as far as they went with it. Some shots just don't match, though... Some shots are really confusing.

• Story/Plot:

Well, by now I'm sure the plotline has been discussed.

The previous films ("Superman" and "Superman II") are supposed to serve as a vague history for the film, but it is TOO vague, IMO.

No mention is made of the events of Superman II, in which, if you recall, 3 Kryptonians made their way to Earth and caused havoc. Well, in this film, not a single mention is made of this event. We know Lex Luthor went to jail, but I guess we're to assume Zod and crew are still locked up, or chilling in a chasm at the bottom of the Fortress of Solitude. Who knows? Who cares?

All they seem to key in on is the scene where Supes depowers himself to get up with Lois. And it is never really made clear is Lois know what's what with her son, Jason.

...

Totalling it all up, I have to say that I was not moved.
This film does not seem to fall in line with S1 and S2, nor does it serve to jumpstart the franchise again, cause there is no set-up whatsoever for a follow-up. Shit is just left hanging.

IMO, Bryan Singer blew his load on "X2" and faked his way through "Superman Returns". Maybe he's and undercover agent for Marvel?

Yeah.

This flick gets an E for Effort. E-, really...

Let's focus on the real right now, though:
Spider-Man 3.
May 4th, 2007.
Excelsior, bitches.

  

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40. "the flying in Matrix looked awful though"
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Way too rubbery and unconvincing.

The Superman Returns stuff was leaps and bounds beyond any other 'flying' we've seen in a movie yet. They completely sold it.

Good call with General Zod's crew, though. I thought of that too, when Supes came home on that 'I'm the only one left' shit. Wonder if there are any plans to bring them back...

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53. "RE: the flying in Matrix looked awful though"
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>Way too rubbery and unconvincing.
>
>The Superman Returns stuff was leaps and bounds beyond any
>other 'flying' we've seen in a movie yet. They completely sold
>it.

But a lot of it looked exactly like the flying in the Matrix @ times. Maybe they should've kept the original release date & spent the extra time 2 touch up the CGI. Same thing plagued X3.

>Good call with General Zod's crew, though. I thought of that
>too, when Supes came home on that 'I'm the only one left'
>shit. Wonder if there are any plans to bring them back...

There needs 2 be. And Peter Stomare needs 2 play 1 of those guys this time. But I dont know mayne. The way this 1 ended ut semmed like they might be movin str8 on 2 Superboy just in case there's some big Routh revolt knaw mean?

  

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180. "i finally saw it"
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and i concur.

  

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21. "I thought she could "die" from that....."
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y'all know.......

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70. "Yo thats just what we were all saying once the lights came up."
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LOL

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90. "Mallrats discussed this quite thoroughly"
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168. ""Only way he could do it is with a kryptonite condom...""
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"but that would kill him."



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22. "Definitely worth the ticket"
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This was definitely a hard movie to make. Rebirthing a series that starred Reeves who has become such an icon in our society. Superman movies are hard in general because dude can do anything, so nothing he does seems speacial or particularly difficult when you are watching. As for the movie itself people want to have the same feel as the old movies and still want to see something new. Its hard to please everyone. I feel like this movie did do a decent job of addressing most fans needs. It wasn't a great movie there were plenty of flaws and corny cinematic moments (the boat scene killed me, I was rooting for the kid to figure that one out), but its entertaining and doesn't feel played out, which is an impressive accomplishment for the film.

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23. "I give it...about 4 outta 5 stars"
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Definitely meeting my expectations, not necessarily exceeding them.

Worth your time. Quick thoughts:

The love stuff is really well done. Take your girl to this one. It's like 'The Notebook' in tights.

Thought the Clark Kent/Dailey Planet scenes were a lot of fun. As they should be

Spacey's good. Everybody's good, actually.

Hell, even Bosworth is decent. I coulda used a little more of that journalistic moxie, but whatever.

Routh passes the test. Some might say he's kinda stiff at times, I sort of took it as an alien/mystery man vibe he was giving off. There's a couple ways you can play Superman, this one works fine.

Visually the flick is very impressive. No complaints there.

As for the twist... I'm open to it. It's really gonna complicate things for the future films, but nothing wrong with a little baby mama drama. It works for Maury Povich, it can work for the man of steel.

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30. "couple more thoughts/questions"
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The movie did get off to a kinda slow start... I guess they wanted to make us squirm a little bit before actually getting to *see* Superman. Like we haven't already been waiting for over 15 years... But I thought the movie moved pretty fast once that first action scene popped off.

What did Lex have to do to inherit that money? Do we really wanna know?

And instantly, the dude has maps, model train sets, and all sorts of little visual aids to help him craft his master plan. Today's supervillains tend to lack this eye for detail. I'm glad Lex is back.

Although it kinda bothered me that Lex was still surrounding himself with idiots, and was ultimately up to yet another lame real estate scam. I understand it's true to the first movie, but that was always an aspect of the first movie that made my ass itch. But I do like how they emphasized the way Lex has been influenced by his own father. Nice little dichotomy there.

I thought Smallville/Ma Kent were kinda underutilized. Who was that mystery Scrabble partner leaving her house at night? And what was that giant rock Superman brought home with him?

Anyone notice how much abuse Lois took in this one? How much head trauma can one person take?

For some reason I loved seeing Superman spying on Lois and her new man. It was kinda creepy, but very human at the same time.

In that vein, little touches like Clark super-whistling for Lois's cab were well done. He's a good dude, he wants to treat this girl right, he's gonna let a superpower slip out every now and then if it brings her comfort.

I thought the suspense was pretty legit. At certain points I felt an honest to goodness 'how is Superman gonna get himself outta this one' feeling. I was fully prepared for him to start flying around the world backwards again.


All in all, I think some people may be disappointed with a lack of action sequences. And the action sequences that *are* there tend to get kinda repetitive (Superman lifts a heavy plane, Superman lifts a heavy car, Superman lifts a heavy 'Daily Planet' statue, etc.)
Given the premise of Superman Returns, I let it slide because this movie had a lot of emotional ground to cover. If and when there's a sequel, I expect it to hit the ground running.

And please, give us a supervillain that Superman can punch in the face.

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61. "Yeah"
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>Anyone notice how much abuse Lois took in this one? How much
>head trauma can one person take?

Its prolly why her ass can't spell worth a damn!!!!

>In that vein, little touches like Clark super-whistling for
>Lois's cab were well done. He's a good dude, he wants to treat
>this girl right, he's gonna let a superpower slip out every
>now and then if it brings her comfort.

And really, I liked how that nigga was flying smooth and shit to where she ain't notice he was moving.

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24. "the acting was great, but that story was fuckin dumb."
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dumb.

  

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25. "RE: the acting was great, but that story was fuckin dumb."
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Co-sign.

The effects and everything were great but the story was a major dud. This would have made a lame episode of the cartoon much less a movie. There were some great individual scenes though.

  

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26. "zzzzzzzzzzzzzz..."
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i was never really into superman that much despite enjoying the first 3 supes flicks. this new one just doesn't intrigue me, shit seems pretty bland so i won't be seeing it until it hits dvd.

and how the fuck does nobody ever figure out that clark kent without glasses = superman.

that shit always bothered me. bunch of fuckin retards living in metropolis...

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50. "@#$%^&!"
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>and how the fuck does nobody ever figure out that clark kent
>without glasses = superman.
>

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142. "*whispers in your ear* it's based on a 68-year old comic book."
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That's how.

  

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167. "cosign this cosign"
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overall i wasnt too glad i saw it though. woulda rather seen click probably

  

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37. "the story was great"
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The only thing coming close to 'dumb' was Lex's evil plan. And I guess that's just a convention of the original movies they didn't want to do away with.

But the real story wasn't Lex, it was the Superman-Clark-Lois-Richard-Superbaby dilemna. And that was executed really really well.

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182. "story was great"
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nearly flawless

  

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27. "WAY BETTER THAN X-MEN but the story was kinda blah."
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Was I the only one hoping Chris Reeves was gonna pop outta nowhere...lol?

DAMN!

  

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28. "Over X3, Singer wins, but this dont beat Batman Begins"
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And not by a long shot either.

I think its always a mistake 2 have your most exiciting action sequence the 1st one & not the last one. Singer was able 2 get away w/ it in X2 cuz the Magneto jail break was right up there w/ the initial Nightcrawler segment. But after the episode w/ the plane & shuttle I started dozin off a few times.

Bosworth wasnt as bad as I thought she'd be. Spacey & Posey were solid & Routh picked up nicely where Reeves left off. I liked the twist but it still left me hangin in the end. I'll see it again not so late @ nite & reserve further judgment till then.

  

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82. "I agree with pretty much all of this..."
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I mean, I understand why the big action set piece was early on, to clear the way for the deadbeat dad stuff...

And wouldn't it have been interesting had the general public been mad at Superman for jetting for 5 years? Like they showed public opinion polls or something that got across the idea that Superman's Q rating was in the low 20's? Seemed like more fun could have been had with the idea of Superman showing up after a long absence...
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105. "RE: I agree with pretty much all of this..."
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>I mean, I understand why the big action set piece was early
>on, to clear the way for the deadbeat dad stuff...
>
>And wouldn't it have been interesting had the general public
>been mad at Superman for jetting for 5 years? Like they
>showed public opinion polls or something that got across the
>idea that Superman's Q rating was in the low 20's? Seemed
>like more fun could have been had with the idea of Superman
>showing up after a long absence...

Yeah that could've been cool 2 work in. But once he makes his return w/ that huge clutch catch in the bottom of the 9th of the pitchers mound...all the fairweather fans have already been swayed back 2 the other side of rooting 4 him. Yet another reason why it would've been nice if they could've saved that scene 4 later on in the movie.

  

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106. "RE: I agree with pretty much all of this..."
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>I mean, I understand why the big action set piece was early
>on, to clear the way for the deadbeat dad stuff...
>
>And wouldn't it have been interesting had the general public
>been mad at Superman for jetting for 5 years? Like they
>showed public opinion polls or something that got across the
>idea that Superman's Q rating was in the low 20's? Seemed
>like more fun could have been had with the idea of Superman
>showing up after a long absence...

Yeah that could've been cool 2 work in. But once he makes his return w/ that huge clutch catch in the bottom of the 9th of the pitchers mound...all the fairweather fans have already been swayed back 2 the other side of rooting 4 him. Yet another reason why it would've been nice if they could've saved that scene 4 later on in the movie.

  

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159. "the space plane rescue was Supe's intro the the world in the '86 reboot"
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>Yeah that could've been cool 2 work in. But once he makes his
>return w/ that huge clutch catch in the bottom of the 9th of
>the pitchers mound...all the fairweather fans have already
>been swayed back 2 the other side of rooting 4 him. Yet
>another reason why it would've been nice if they could've
>saved that scene 4 later on in the movie.

that's why they did it so early in the movie, but yeah I agree that having the best action sequence so early in the movie is problematic.

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29. "This movie was not 1/2 as good as you guys make it sound"
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- Someone needs to spend some quality time in the editing room.
- The kid annoyed me
- Superman straigh up hating on Lois's dude
- Luthor wasn't as hateful/ eveil as I wanted him to be
- all the best aprts were in previews.

We got the best Point Guard in the league running the team; and the best Point Guard in the history of the league running the team.

  

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31. "these 3 things are just straight lies, no other way to describe it"
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>- Superman straigh up hating on Lois's dude

when? they were both boy scouts

>- Luthor wasn't as hateful/ eveil as I wanted him to be

are u kidding, the first scene?

>- all the best aprts were in previews.

Spoiler..............................





him lifting the kryptonite island was in the movie



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32. "The best superhero movie ever."
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Ratner take note, the characters are a certain way for a reason its best to leave them like that.

spoiler..................................................................................












my only problem was with supes being the father but i got a feeling they could just be toying with us and its lois thats not the kids real mother. (maybe lext putting the crystal + kryptonite near the kid gave him those powers)

other than that, this is exactly wat a diehard superman fan would want, its the prototypical supes story, he inspires others to act and its great to watch.

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38. "I think I still prefer The Incredibles & Spiderman 2"
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But this one might have just made the Top 5.

I'd put it over any of the X-Men movies, for sure.

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120. "your idea would be disastrous if's true"
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>my only problem was with supes being the father but i got a
>feeling they could just be toying with us and its lois thats
>not the kids real mother. (maybe lext putting the crystal +
>kryptonite near the kid gave him those powers)

that would make the ending completely useless, for starters. not to mention the use of body language throughout the movie to set that up-supes and the kid looking at each other like they instinctively knew.
likewise, it would ruin the "cold fish" attitude lois had towards richard. no disrespect at all, i just think that for them to say that he really isnt supes kid would basically render all of the dynamics of this movie pointless.

>other than that, this is exactly wat a diehard superman fan
>would want, its the prototypical supes story, he inspires
>others to act and its great to watch.

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34. "routh and the costume were exquisite"
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39. "forget the movie, let's talk about the audience"
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At my theater it was a very loud, very enthusiastic, very ... eclectic bunch.

There were more Superman T-shirts than I ever care to see in one place again, and a lot of these people looked like they haven't left their house since the last time Superman had a movie in the theater.

2 women to my right were discussing the multiverse.

Before the movie, they had a guy out front doing Superman trivia, and if you answered a question correctly you won a sampling of the same Superman crap they were giving away for free in the lobby. It was cool though. People were really getting into it.

The problem was, some of the trivia questions related to the movie itself. Here I'd gone out of my way to avoid reviews and spoilers, and 10 minutes before the previews role, this guy hits me with 'What instrument does Superman's kid play?' Ah, so it *IS* his kid. Thanks a heap, asshole!!

Anyway, the house was packed and everybody seemed to enjoy themselves. You could tell there was about a 50/50 split when it came to the kid though. Some people loved it, others were gnashing their teeth in fanboy agony.

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42. "those geeks ruined the movie for me"
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im never going to see a sci-fi/comic book
flick on opening day again.

they got really geeked when to opening credits started to roll


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46. "Midnight showings are for geeks..."
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I never understand why the average person would go to a midnight showing and complain about geeks...let them have their fun. Also it could have been worst did you ever catch Star Wars at midnight?


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47. "RE: Midnight showings are for geeks..."
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>I never understand why the average person would go to a
>midnight showing and complain about geeks...let them have
>their fun. Also it could have been worst did you ever catch
>Star Wars at midnight?

yeah, i should have know that. But star wars was the worst.
Those geeks showed up at midnight showings a week after it opened.
Im walking into a 9 or 10 show, and this geeks are lined up in
the lobby waiting for the midnight one





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41. "stay tuned after the credits for a special sneak preview"
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43. "RE: stay tuned after the credits for a special sneak preview"
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Superman 2: You are* the Father(c)Maury

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44. "*Richard Does the 'I Ain't the Daddy' Dance*"
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that shit was fresh
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45. "Houston got mentioned in the same sentence as Gotham!!!"
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g'yeah!!

*SPOILERS*

Okay, I've had my moment. Now, as for the rest of the movie.... well...... I have to agree with the majority and say the twist in the story was ridiculous. And what kind of fast actin' hoe does Lois have to be to get with Supes, get knocked up and then get with ol' dude in a relatively short amount of time to have them both believe that he's the father. Yeah, okay. And don't even get me started on Superman coming across as a peeping tom. Yeesh!

Anyway, the special effects looked incredible. May not have broke much new ground, but it doesn't take away from how great they looked on screen. The shot were Superman flies thru the wing of the plane was one of my favorite.

As far as the acting goes...well.....
Brandon = big shoes to fill and he held his own nicely. It both the role of Clark and Superman.
Spacey = Great job as usual. Hit all the right tones that each scene needed. Laid back, confident, menacing, etc. Great casting.
Kate = Well, I just don't think she "looks" the part. I will say she played Lois more like LL should be, character wise. Made her more confident and head strong. Ehhh, I'm still not really sure about her performance overall.

They movie as a whole, I really enjoyed. Enough so to go see it again this weekend. I just hope I don't sit next to another idiot spitting out "Kumar" jokes thru the movie again.

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49. "RE: Houston got mentioned in the same sentence as Gotham!!!"
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I was just about to say that. Superman was like 'Big shout out to my man Bruce, holdin' it down in The Narrows...'

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143. "Actually, I realized a half-hour in that Bosworth looks a lot like"
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Noel Neill (who is also in this film, albeit very briefly).

  

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48. "I give it a B+"
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It was a decent restart to the franchise. Then again, after the horror of Meteor/Nuclear/Atom man (or whoever the crappy villan was in 4), anything could have worked. I liked the casting, a lot of the flying effects were quite nice, the pace was deliberate, but necessary, so I wasn't mad at that. I liked that the opening credits took after the original, which was a nice overlooked homage. Quibbles? (Sorry, spoilers....)















- I think Lex was underutilized. True, he couldn't be anything like S:TAS or JLU Lex, and it was a good pickup from Hackman's Lex. But there still wasn't quite enough menace there. For all the talk about 'alien technology', he sure didn't produce any of it, which I would have done to get rid of Superman instead of shanking him. And why the hell do you give your mole the damn crystals? You keep those jewels right by yours, man!
- If that whole island was fused with Kryptonite, he should have felt the effects long before he had the showdown with Lex. He should have dropped the boat and Lois & co. And no way does he go flying that far when Lex hits him either.
- I knew what the plot twist was going to be as soon as I saw the kid. Too cliche'
-Perry was worse than J.J.J. on this superhero reporting thing. Just not as funny
-Lois should have had a concussion on that plane ride

BTW, the movie very nearly got ethered by '3'

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51. "The iMAX here is sold out"
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all day!!

This weekend tickets ain't looking promising

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52. "Well worth the ticket. (kinda spoilish)"
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First off, I don't read the comics anymore. I haven't since 98? I was in 8th grade. But when I do, I just read a few just to see where Superman is at. Personally, I think this is a semi-great movie. I give it a A- or B+. I know many people can't believe in the story due to 70 years of history of the iconic hero. On top of that, we have The Donner films to compare. But it seem like I really wanted a different story, and I got it. I know several of the scene and plot points are taken from the Donner films, but the so called "twist" was great to me, I can see how they can expand to different areas of stories in sequels. I think the movie will do good, but the plot will ruin it for everyone. I think most of the people can't take the plot seriously. That's OK in my book. I mean, afterwards I had some jokes about the kid and whatnot, his little S curl, his "EMO" face, everything everyone else is saying. BUT I wasn't dissapointed. I was one of probably 5-10 applauding in the theatre out of 100+. When I left, I was happy. I believe Superman has Returned. In conclusion, if you're looking for an action packed movie, don't see Superman. If you're looking for a movie with some heart and some action, and most importantly something different than recent Superhero movies, watch this. I think people shouldn't exceed their expectations, and you have to be open-minded with this movie, it's not following any Comic book or TV show, or movie. It's actually different. Something worthwhile. Something heart felt. Something SUPER.

  

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55. "AKA Superman Man "5""
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56. "every review i've read and heard"
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has said this flic is hot garbage and to go rent one of the reeves flics if you want to see a superman movie.

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57. "RE: every review i've read and heard"
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58. "Are these reviews you speak of"
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from Bizarro World?


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59. "not a good movie"
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the best part of my cinematic experience last night was the spider man 3 trailer (which looks dope). i was very dissapointed by the film. i thought the story was awful, the acting was so-so with the exception of Kevin Spacey who played Lex very well, and the cinematography was nothing special (or interesting). Singer did a MUCH better job on x-men.

  

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60. "good start to a new franchise...."
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action was off the hook...

acting was good...

relationship between supes/lex/kid was good,
and the way they handled the spoiler was good.

k. spacey and p.posey were good, but didn't get enough play.

biggest beef: the whole 'superman leaves for krypton' thing was a device to get the ball rolling, but now seems totally contrived and ridiculously vague. we never REALLY get an idea of why he left or what he found there that made him come back, or even if what he found there effected him.

It seemed like it was only done to justify the whole 'things change while supes is gone' thing. emotionally, i felt cheated.

beyond that, i dug the movie. i'll only tolerate something like that one more time, though. if a major aspect of the inevitable sequel is as contrived, i'm done with the franchise.


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62. "but why did the kid seem uneffected by kryptonite"
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and the scene where cyclops opens the door for the kid, i kinda thought they were eluding to something else.

maybe im reading too much into it because i dont like the twist, but its never said that its actually his kid, and lois whispers that shit to him, why wouldnt they just let us hear?

Also i cant really remember the first 2 movies, i was pretty young and i dont care to watch them again but when did supes and lois get it on?

or is that just a huggggeeeeeee event were supposed to assume happens off camera?

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63. "explanation"
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Well the Kid wasn't affected by the Kryptonite cause he only took superman's trait of Straight. And took the weakness as a human from Lois, hints the asthma. And Lois got it on with supes in Superman 2. The real question is that, Superman got it on with Lois when he was powerless. So this kid couln't have powers...unless, his supes DNA is so strong it still pass some traits. Many people were confuse due to this cause you had to watch Superman 1 & 2.

  

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67. "yo didnt lois forget everything at the end of the second flick"
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so wat did she whisper to him?

like wtf is up with these stories, either way it was a great flick imho

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177. "Thats what i wanna know if she forgot everythng"
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She must have thought she was the virgin mary

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64. "Good, not great"
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The last 30 or minutes felt very flat and not at all satisfying.

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65. "RE: The Official Superman Returns Post"
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http://www.gearcritech.com/index.php/2006/06/28/superman-returns-review.php

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66. "2nd Time Around"
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I saw it again tonight--and I must say, it was better the second time around. I wasn't going in nitpicking--I did all that last night. This time, I just went in to enjoy it--and I'll say, it's my third favorite comic movie (behind Superman: The Movie and Superman II).

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68. "My two-and-a-half cents. (Spoilers are Lurking)"
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I'd give this 2.5 stars while X3 would get the same.

While this wasn't put together as sloppy as X3, Superman's plotholes are nearly unforgivable:

Why does Supes have so much history w/Lois while Clark has next to none? Why can an asthmatic kid put together the fact that Clark=Superman but a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist can't? Why is James Marsden's character not given nearly enough credit? (He went out there for Lois and he knows he doesn't have any powers) How could Lois still love Superman over Richard after all of that? Why is Lex a repeat offender who can go wherever he wants? Why did it take five appeals for Lex to get free when he could've just used the same excuse earlier? Why does Lex even have to seduce some old lady to get money? Why does Kumar never really speak the entire film? Where's Otis? Where does this movie fit with the original franchise? Why did Lex think that his plan would work? Why didn't Lex stab Supes in the throat or the heart with the Kryptonite? Why didn't Richard refuse to take Lois back to the island so they could completely ensure their son's safety? Why doesn't Lex just drop Kitty out of the helicopter so Superman would have to drop the island to save her or let her drown? (Backtracking)How did Lex get out of jail after getting a double life sentence? So, did Lex take the fall all by himself? Why doesn't Lex publicly make a point of the fact that Superman could provide Earth with advanced technology? Why didn't Lex just have Superman killed with a Kryptonite bullet since it was obvious that he'd just stand in the way of it? Why does Superman even have a son in this film?


Most importantly....

Why the hell do I still think that this film is acceptable?

Someone please give me answers. I'm confused.

  

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93. "RE: My two-and-a-half cents. (Spoilers are Lurking)"
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>Why does Supes have so much history w/Lois while Clark has
>next to none?

fair point, only because, if this is really supposed to pick up where 2 left off, lois and clark are way tighter

>Why can an asthmatic kid put together the fact
>that Clark=Superman but a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist
>can't?

this is obvious. it plays to the real-life fact that children often see the obvious that expert adults never notice in life.

>Why is James Marsden's character not given nearly
>enough credit? (He went out there for Lois and he knows he
>doesn't have any powers) How could Lois still love Superman
>over Richard after all of that?

lol i feel you. in fact, i did not like this version of Lois at all. not only did she seem awfully shallow (as you pointed out), she was far too pretty, seemed far too got-it-all and elite in every way. it just flattened that whole dynamic between her and Superman into an out-of-our-league romance between 2 Elites. the old Lois and Clark/Superman (circa-Reeves) had such a thicker more interesting dynamic, because here was this man who had it all, could have any woman, and yet (being the farm-raised man from another planet he is) his love is for this average-to-ratty-looking, loud/boistrous, scatterbrained reporter lady who is crazy over him.

>Why is Lex a repeat offender
>who can go wherever he wants?

because its a superhero/supervillain movie. its supposed to be like that.

>Why did it take five appeals
>for Lex to get free when he could've just used the same excuse
>earlier?

they fell all over themselves trying to clumsily appease the people who wouldn't just accept the previous point.

>Why does Lex even have to seduce some old lady to
>get money?

because it makes his character that much more interesting lol. i've never seen a self-respecting Kevin-Spacey-aged man with his shit more or less together, especially a supervillain, pull some crazy shit like pleasuring and seducing an old wrinkly woman to get her money. a good piece of art/movie/story will favor interesting over plausible any day.

>Where does this movie fit with the original
>franchise?

supposed to be after Superman 2 (Reeves) but...i'd be hardpressed to see much cohesiveness, aside from Lois getting knocked up.

>Why did Lex think that his plan would work?

because he's a crazy supervillain who tries to take over the world with extremely over the top schemes.

>Why didn't Lex stab Supes in the throat or the heart with the
>Kryptonite?

cuz Supes would have died right then and there. no more movie. and maybe he wanted to see him struggle? its plausible. you have to allow yourself to buy into things when it comes to these kinds of tales.

>Why didn't Richard refuse to take Lois back to
>the island so they could completely ensure their son's safety?

lol yeah i guess they figured if they just dropped down and picked superman up, they'd be alright. i donno. plus, they realized the world needs superman. they felt they had no choice? but those 2 parents stayed putting that kid in rediculous danger all day lol. more concerned with their careers and looks and love-life or whatever lol. the husband was actually a real decent cat though.

>Why doesn't Lex just drop Kitty out of the helicopter so
>Superman would have to drop the island to save her or let her
>drown? (

lol i donno what to tell you there man. i'm sure you could come up with new strategies for the bad guys for every film ever made.

>Backtracking)How did Lex get out of jail after getting
>a double life sentence?

he's Lex Luther? but was this covered in one of the older movies?

>So, did Lex take the fall all by
>himself?

well, all his henchman took the fall from the cliff that fell on them. and last we knew, He and She were stranded on an island somewhere. i think they want us to wonder what's gonna become of them. maybe we'll find out in a couple years.


>Why doesn't Lex publicly make a point of the fact
>that Superman could provide Earth with advanced technology?

he doesn't want to let other producers know who he plans on sampling.

>Why didn't Lex just have Superman killed with a Kryptonite
>bullet since it was obvious that he'd just stand in the way of
>it?

no more movie.

>Why does Superman even have a son in this film?

in 2, he gave up his powers for a while so he could get busy with Lois. which means, she must have rebounded pretty damn quick once he left for his journey (seeing how she thought his kid was the other guy's).

>Most importantly....
>
>Why the hell do I still think that this film is acceptable?

cuz even though it lacked the kind of thickness, plot, dynamic, and dimension we would have wished for, it was still a fun fun movie-going experience with a great opening credits, a great airplane scene, a kid who looks like he was conceived in his mom's womb for the very purpose of playing Superman, a great performance of Lex Luther, the old John Williams classics to bring us back (even though this arranger made the music much thinner than John would have) cool night-time scenes...and more fun than watching the passionate promise of the Phoenix turn into a red-head joke.

>Someone please give me answers. I'm confused.

hopefully i was able to help a tiny bit

  

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100. "Good reply."
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I just can't get over Lex not dropping Kitty into the ocean though. If she had dropped by crystals, I would've dropped her immediately.

  

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107. "LOL i feel you there. the only thing i could think of while watching"
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that scene was..."well...i mean...supervillains get horny too from time to time...i guess"

lol

one thing that sucked about the movie (unless they already have a sequel planned that takes care of this) was...Superman lost his damn crystals, damnit! he needs those to talk to dad. why are the credits rolling?

  

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144. "I newver saw an ugly Lois Lane come out of Joe Shuster's pen."
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Or Curt Swan's.
Or John Byrne's.
Or Gil Kane's.
Or Dan Jurgens'.
Maybe Jerry Ordway's.

  

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150. "i don't care. the movies of my childhood improved on the comics"
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71. "It was GOOD & Im not a Supes fan....."
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Was not better than Batman, but its up there with Spiderman 2. It was better than X-3. Great movie. Gotta go back to peep the 3D scenes.

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75. "as a big supes fan i really think it did the character justice"
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people are unfairly hating on routh, the guys natural voice just sounds like clark kent, hes a natural for this part and honestly i think hes alot better than the dude that played batman in batman begins.

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92. "Wait! WHAT?"
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I haven't seen Supes, and I probably won't even try at all this year (Blame Shaq b/c I'm a Mavs fan), but did you just say an unknown actor like Routh gave a better performance than Christian "American Psycho" & "Empire of the Sun" Bale?

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174. "You are nuts"
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Christan Bale is one of the goats

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72. "The those who saw the 3-D version...."
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how was it? Which scenes was it used in?

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73. "A-/B+"
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All in all pretty good damn flick. Definately a better watch than X3

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76. "x-3 was like a c- at best, but yea i agree a-"
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the character development was great, just that one story line twist....

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74. "thread, please holla back at me...."
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tell me your impression of the fact that
the big thing that sets this whole movie
into motion - supes leaving to go discover
the 'lost krypton' - was only vaguely referred
to when he gets back, and really didn't seem
to effect him that much.

i felt cheated and manipulated by that, not only
because i felt there were HUGE possibilities
with showing whatever he found out there, but
also because i thought there should be some
more face time to something so crucial to the
development of the whole movie. (as opposed
to all those FLYING AROUND THE OCEAN KRYPTON
scenes near the end, which made the movie drag.)

how did yall feel about that?

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77. "oh absolutely"
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They were painfully vague about that whole thing.

5 years... what the hell was he doing in space for 5 years? Besides you know, NOT raising his seed.

Was it like, some theory of relativity thing... where he was gone for a few months but 5 years passed on Earth? Cause it seemed like he realized how long he'd been gone, like that time passed for him as well.

All I can say is maybe it will come to play in the next movie. He didn't find what he was looking for, but I'm thinking he found *something*.

Brainiac, perhaps?


At the same time, I do sort of dig the mystery of it.

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87. "i dig the mystery IF it will ultimately be explained...."
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on the other hand, i hate cinema that
opens up big questions but provides
no answers...especially when the questions
are huge wholes in the plot...


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81. "The point of the movie wasn't to understand *why* he was gone,"
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it was the fact that he was gone in the first place. The *reasons* for him being gone are pretty much irrelevant. It'd be different if the movie started with Superman here on Earth, conducting business as usual, then suddenly deciding to just jet up (seemingly) without an explanation or reason... then we cut to 5 years later, and he returns. Whether or not that would have made for a "better" movie, I don't know...
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86. "you're right, that wasn't the POINT...."
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but it was - to me - still very crucial
to the whole movie...

nothing that made this movie compelling to me -
the love rectangle between supes/louise/white/jason,
lex's acquisition of the krpyton crystal, etc -
could have happened without supes leaving.

thanks for your take, though...

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78. "anyone else kinda dislike how pa kent is replace by jor-l"
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i know it goes back to the first flick, but its almost like pa being gone erases the whole "american way", and im not even american but thats pretty vital to supes

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79. "the human parents were kinda downplayed"
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Ma Kent served no real purpose, and Pa Kent just plain wasn't there (hey, maybe that's where Supes gets his parenting skills from) Which is a bit of a disservice to the myth, and the previous Donner films... but really, you can't cram it all into a movie. Even a 2.5 hour one.

But that little speech that Superman gives the kid at the end... isn't it part Jor-El and part Pa Kent? The Jor-El stuff was a bit more overt since it had been previously referenced in that very film... but I feel like the Pa Kent influence was showing through as well.

I'm thinking there were some flashback scenes with the Kents that didn't make the final cut.

EDIT: It just ocurred to me that this Richard cat will likely stay in the picture long-term. Superman grew up with 2 different father figures, one being a mortal and one being, well, something more. And it looks like his kid is gonna do the same.

The son becomes the father, the father becomes the son, etc etc

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80. "I was not feelin' it at ALL"
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I'll leave off the non-comic book geek-related reasons why I didn't like this movie, but this was not a good film. I wouldn't have liked it even if I wasn't a comic book geek.

First of all, it's so damn long and slow and BORING. I could deal with the length if it wasn't so damn dull. But how Singer managed to pull off a dull Superman movie is beyond me. I was like every shot and scene went on five seconds too long, and it was draining.

Second, Kate Bosworth was not so good. Bad acting and I felt no empathy for her character at all. I couldn't make myself care.

Third, the movie was poorly focused. The stuff with Lex Luthor was cool (KEvin Spacey is genuinely good), but they spend too much time with his growing crystal and not enough time with Luthor.

Fourth, the Parker Posey character is useless and Posey as an actress isn't particularly good in this film either.

For what it's worth, I liked Routh; the kid did a good job. Spacey is always good. And some of the action sequences were well done. But mostly, eh, I ain't fucking with it.

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83. "A surprisingly somber, inert movie."
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I thought Routh and Bosworth were fine, Spacey didn't quite know how to play Luthor (straight angry or campy), Parker Posey was wasted, as was Frank Langella.

The pacing was off to me. This movie could have been about 20 minutes shorter.

I dug the overall point (best expressed in the old Ed O.G. and Da Bulldogs cut, "Be A Father To Your Child") and give Singer, Dougherty and Harris credit for ultimately resisting the temptation to turn the story into a melodrama. But would it have killed them to give the movie more 'oomph?'

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84. "so what do the kids think of Superman Returns?"
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Because when I was little, I felt like the Donner films were good, but way too lovey-dovey with all the Lois stuff. Who cares! Let's see Superman punch some stuff.

I think Singer carried on that tradition. This time around I really appreciate the emotional stuff, but I'm wondering if this film left a whole new generation of kids somewhat disinterested.

Anybody see this movie with the little ones? What do they think?

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85. "I wanted the effect of his 5 year absence explored more...."
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Not necessarily wjat he was doing, but all the stuff he missed. Ex realizing he was not here to help prevent 9/11, that the world in truely a changed place in just those 5 years. I mean it was hinted at, but not explored the way I hoped. Also they revealed too soon that its his kid. They should of held that for part 2.

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89. "yeah, we got the emotional side of it"
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From the people who were close to him

But as for the rest of the world? Well it looks like it was business as usual, judging by the channel flipping Clark was doing back home on the farm. Maybe that's all that needed to be said?

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91. "Fan-fucking-tastic."
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I will go see it again.



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94. "The Ultimate Question (SUPREME SPOILER)"
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wait for it....


































wait for it ............................






































































HOW THE FUCK IS SHE FUCKING DUDE, AND NOT KNOWING IT'S THE SAME
DUDE IN THE OFFICE???????!!!!!!! THE FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!























































































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115. "Superman 2 and the kiss at the end"
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95. "I guess enough spoilers have dropped. On with the nitpicking..."
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1) Superman is gone for 5 joints. In the first film, it took 3 years to get from Krypton to Earth, and he aged from an infant to a toddler.

3 years to Krypton + time to explore and study shit + 3 years from Krypton != 5 years. FUZZY MATH.

2) Martha Kent has moved on and found a new dude (Bul leaving the house before Supes arrives home). This was shot, but totally cut from the theatrical print. Why? BAD EDITS.

3) No mention of the 3 Phantom Zone Kryptonians.

Lester's version of Superman II has Zod and 'nem fall into a hole at the FOS, while Donner's version has them depowered and arrested. Neither of this is even hinted at or mentioned. AROO?

4) Luthor is complicit in a terrorist attack on the White House and leads Zod and his crew to destroy major portions of Metropolis... but manages to walk off as a free man cause Superman missed his court date? GTFOOH.

5) I'm just letting my brain fill in this mystery. Superman depowers himself so he can do the hibby-dibby with Lois. (with no super condom!) Later, I'm guessing his depowered Supersperm is still swimming around at the time that Superman flips the depowering chamber. Maybe it depowered Zod and friends, but it re-powered the Superskeet?

Now, this kid is here. I'm supposing the amnesia kiss didn't work, cause Lois seems to know that the kid is Superman's... Isn't that what she whispered in his ear at the hospital?

6) Why is the kid extra weak? That is just never explained.

7) Why were Lex's henchmen not given personalities? Why were they killed so shittily?

8) Wouldn't moving a small island frm the Earth's crust and into it's orbit REALLY fuck up things on the planet? COME ON.

...

All in all, I think Byran Singer's hard-on for the character totally overpowered his common sense in developing a sensible story, or a satisfying ending, or an intriguing setup for the NEXT movie... but the film does look great.

  

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96. "RE: I guess enough spoilers have dropped. On with the nitpicking..."
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>1) Superman is gone for 5 joints. In the first film, it took
>3 years to get from Krypton to Earth, and he aged from an
>infant to a toddler.
>
>3 years to Krypton + time to explore and study shit + 3 years
>from Krypton != 5 years. FUZZY MATH.
>
>2) Martha Kent has moved on and found a new dude (Bul leaving
>the house before Supes arrives home). This was shot, but
>totally cut from the theatrical print. Why? BAD EDITS.
>
>3) No mention of the 3 Phantom Zone Kryptonians.
>
>Lester's version of Superman II has Zod and 'nem fall into a
>hole at the FOS, while Donner's version has them depowered and
>arrested. Neither of this is even hinted at or mentioned.
>AROO?
>
>4) Luthor is complicit in a terrorist attack on the White
>House and leads Zod and his crew to destroy major portions of
>Metropolis... but manages to walk off as a free man cause
>Superman missed his court date? GTFOOH.


OKKKKKKKKK! Thats what I was sayin.


>5) I'm just letting my brain fill in this mystery. Superman
>depowers himself so he can do the hibby-dibby with Lois. (with
>no super condom!) Later, I'm guessing his depowered Supersperm
>is still swimming around at the time that Superman flips the
>depowering chamber. Maybe it depowered Zod and friends, but it
>re-powered the Superskeet?
>
>Now, this kid is here. I'm supposing the amnesia kiss didn't
>work, cause Lois seems to know that the kid is Superman's...
>Isn't that what she whispered in his ear at the hospital?
>
>6) Why is the kid extra weak? That is just never explained.
>
>7) Why were Lex's henchmen not given personalities? Why were
>they killed so shittily?
>
>8) Wouldn't moving a small island frm the Earth's crust and
>into it's orbit REALLY fuck up things on the planet? COME ON.
>
>...
>
>All in all, I think Byran Singer's hard-on for the character
>totally overpowered his common sense in developing a sensible
>story, or a satisfying ending, or an intriguing setup for the
>NEXT movie... but the film does look great.


Preach! I want to love this movie but once you take the Super nuts out your mouth, it's just as silly as X3.

AND

WHERE ARE THE BLACK PEOPLE IN THIS FLIM????

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97. "No niggas in Metropolis..."
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...except for a pimp, some kids and Gus Gorman.

  

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161. "Not even the criminals were black!!"
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"I'm one of the world's great survivors. I'll always survive because I've got the right combination of wit, grit and bullshit."

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101. "RE: I guess enough spoilers have dropped. On with the nitpicking..."
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>1) Superman is gone for 5 joints. In the first film, it took
>3 years to get from Krypton to Earth, and he aged from an
>infant to a toddler.
>
>3 years to Krypton + time to explore and study shit + 3 years
>from Krypton != 5 years. FUZZY MATH.

Or better, faster space travel.

>2) Martha Kent has moved on and found a new dude (Bul leaving
>the house before Supes arrives home). This was shot, but
>totally cut from the theatrical print. Why? BAD EDITS.

Too marginal for the main story?

>3) No mention of the 3 Phantom Zone Kryptonians.
>
>Lester's version of Superman II has Zod and 'nem fall into a
>hole at the FOS, while Donner's version has them depowered and
>arrested. Neither of this is even hinted at or mentioned.
>AROO?

You have Donner's version of Superman II? I would love a DVD of it. Got a link?

By the way, did this need to be mentioned given the story arc of Returns?

>4) Luthor is complicit in a terrorist attack on the White
>House and leads Zod and his crew to destroy major portions of
>Metropolis... but manages to walk off as a free man cause
>Superman missed his court date? GTFOOH.

Legal technicalities are a bitch.

>5) I'm just letting my brain fill in this mystery. Superman
>depowers himself so he can do the hibby-dibby with Lois. (with
>no super condom!) Later, I'm guessing his depowered Supersperm
>is still swimming around at the time that Superman flips the
>depowering chamber. Maybe it depowered Zod and friends, but it
>re-powered the Superskeet?
>
>Now, this kid is here. I'm supposing the amnesia kiss didn't
>work, cause Lois seems to know that the kid is Superman's...
>Isn't that what she whispered in his ear at the hospital?


The amnesia kiss was one of the special new powers (like levitation) that creeped up in Superman II. I'm glad that mess was left out.
Chances are, the kid is Superman's & Lois knows it. Given the space of the story, she and Superman don't have the time to work out those details (especially with another man in the picture).

>6) Why is the kid extra weak? That is just never explained.

The human frailty issue. Are we to assume he has all of Superman's DNA & none of Lois's DNA?

>7) Why were Lex's henchmen not given personalities? Why were
>they killed so shittily?

This didn't matter much to me. Eh.

>8) Wouldn't moving a small island frm the Earth's crust and
>into it's orbit REALLY fuck up things on the planet? COME ON.

Well, the apologist in me knows that it wasn't "from" the Earth's crust as much as it was a growth on top on the sea floor. I was really expecting Superman to push it to the Sun.

>
>All in all, I think Byran Singer's hard-on for the character
>totally overpowered his common sense in developing a sensible
>story, or a satisfying ending, or an intriguing setup for the
>NEXT movie... but the film does look great.


Donner didn't do Superman any justice either really with the major story flaws: reversing time by spinning the earth backwards?, the special new powers, etc.


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1. NO ONE realized that, hey, Clark was gone for 5 years too?

2. Didn't Lex realize that no one wants to buy shitty crystalline land as valuable real estate?

3. A Pulitzer Prize winning author DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO SPELL FUCKING "CATASTROPHE"?

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119. "I can't even call it."
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I'm gonna cop the box set when it drops later this year, but I won't go see this a 2nd time in the theater.

  

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123. "RE: I guess enough spoilers have dropped. On with the nitpicking..."
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>1) Superman is gone for 5 joints. In the first film, it took
>3 years to get from Krypton to Earth, and he aged from an
>infant to a toddler.
>
>3 years to Krypton + time to explore and study shit + 3 years
>from Krypton != 5 years. FUZZY MATH.

well, consider that was a baby on a preset and predetermikned flight path to make SURE the kid lands safely. flying the thing... it's reasonable to believe that he could simply pilot the thing at a higher speed. basically, the kid like about 6 years old in the first movie anyways, cause he sure as hell didnt LOOK 3, so we could just go nitpick that while we're at it. oh and lets nitpick the fact that nobody in any incarnation of the franchise cant put two and two together and realize clark kent and superman are identical, or that his coworkers never notice he is never around when superman is working?

>2) Martha Kent has moved on and found a new dude (Bul leaving
>the house before Supes arrives home). This was shot, but
>totally cut from the theatrical print. Why? BAD EDITS.

ok this is a bit MUCH, even for self professed nitpicking... this has zero effect on anything, honestly.


>3) No mention of the 3 Phantom Zone Kryptonians.

>Lester's version of Superman II has Zod and 'nem fall into a
>hole at the FOS, while Donner's version has them depowered and
>arrested. Neither of this is even hinted at or mentioned.
>AROO?

why mention them? they werent at all vital to this story, so why waste precious time explaining it. perhaps a toungue in cheek refference would be nice, but remember it's LOOSELY based on the first two, not precisely. this has no bearing on the current film.


>4) Luthor is complicit in a terrorist attack on the White
>House and leads Zod and his crew to destroy major portions of
>Metropolis... but manages to walk off as a free man cause
>Superman missed his court date? GTFOOH.

shit like this happens on our court systems all the time, it's not THAT outlandish, and besides, you are watching a movie about an alien who comes to earth and spends his spare time saving everyone instead of taking over the place like he easily could. lets lament the governments lack of trying to take him down their damn selves, cause he would be considered a major threat to our civilization in "real" life. the point being, its a comic book movie, lets not ruin it for ourselves by overthinking the lack of "realism".

>5) I'm just letting my brain fill in this mystery. Superman
>depowers himself so he can do the hibby-dibby with Lois. (with
>no super condom!) Later, I'm guessing his depowered Supersperm
>is still swimming around at the time that Superman flips the
>depowering chamber. Maybe it depowered Zod and friends, but it
>re-powered the Superskeet?

my guess is that his dna would still be the same, simply hybernating. remember, mom said he wouldnt be able to come back after that, so once again we could nitpick the original source even further its lack of logic.

>Now, this kid is here. I'm supposing the amnesia kiss didn't
>work, cause Lois seems to know that the kid is Superman's...
>Isn't that what she whispered in his ear at the hospital?

again, "loosley based" around the first two films.


>6) Why is the kid extra weak? That is just never explained.

he is only half kryptonian, thus he is the first and only of his kind. it would make sense that he wouldnt be all that strong especially as a child. he was able to muster the strength for a brief moment with the Flying Piano of Doom.

>7) Why were Lex's henchmen not given personalities? Why were
>they killed so shittily?

cause noody is all that concerned about the hencmen in movies. i am disapointed that kal penn didnt have any lines, but it didnt bother me all that much.

>8) Wouldn't moving a small island frm the Earth's crust and
>into it's orbit REALLY fuck up things on the planet? COME ON.
cmic... book... movie...

i suppose you believe that spinning the earth backwards would take us back in time, or that it wouldnt seriously fuck up the entire solar system at the same time even if it DID? do you believe that the moon would have magically moved with the earth and gone backwards as well? you dont think that something like that would be beyond catastrophic? once again we can look back to the beloved originals for some even more screwed up logic.... but its a comic book movie in a world that clearly sint necessarily governed by our rules, so why wste energy complaining about the lack of realism? do you know any superpowered the same chick over and over again even though she treats his alter ego like shit?

>All in all, I think Byran Singer's hard-on for the character
>totally overpowered his common sense in developing a sensible
>story, or a satisfying ending, or an intriguing setup for the
>NEXT movie... but the film does look great.

eh... its fine either way. they dont have to specifically set up the next with this one. they can still draw points from this one when its time to make the sequel. its not that big a deal.

  

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129. "^^^ BRYAN SINGER"
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190. "wow, I didn't like the movie but you went above and beyond"
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congrats

>4) Luthor is complicit in a terrorist attack on the White
>House and leads Zod and his crew to destroy major portions of
>Metropolis... but manages to walk off as a free man cause
>Superman missed his court date? GTFOOH.

I thought that was a clever twist. Lex going on about how Superman doesn't follow proper police procedures like Miranda rights and such...made sense to me

>7) Why were Lex's henchmen not given personalities? Why were
>they killed so shittily?

I agree

>8) Wouldn't moving a small island frm the Earth's crust and
>into it's orbit REALLY fuck up things on the planet? COME ON.

yeah, and nobody in that plane would have survived leaving the earth's atmosphere either, but it was a comic book movie

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98. "Cyclops... you are NOT the father."
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n/m

  

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99. "*draws YO THOUGHTS AINT MY THOUGHTS in the ceiling with heat vision*"
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102. "superman sucked!!!"
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Very dissappointing.... I'm surprised by the positive reviews.

I thought it was boring!!! Terrible casting minus kevin spacey... only ill scene was during the airplane crash. Many people came out after the film saying the same thing... "boring" "terrible" "garbage"... "no action"... "bad cgi".

2/5

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103. "IMAX 3D"
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i saw it last night at the IMAX. if you have the chance and haven't seen it yet, check it out if its available where you are. it was pretty cool.

as for the movie, i really liked it. there's a few things that i could nitpick on, but the bottom line is that i found it to be very entertaining. the movie looked great and sounded awesome. i really thought that brandon routh did a great job. bosworth i could take or leave, but if anything i think she's nice to look at.

i'd give it 4/5

  

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108. "RE: IMAX 3D"
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>i saw it last night at the IMAX.

Here in Seattle right?

if you have the chance and
>haven't seen it yet, check it out if its available where you
>are. it was pretty cool.

Did they show the Spidey 3 teaser? And what parts of the movie were in 3D? Also, did they show it in its entirity cuz I heard they cut the movies down sometimes when they show it on IMAX. Which could be a good thing in this case. But was the running time still around 2 & 1/2 hours?

  

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109. "RE: IMAX 3D"
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yeah, seattle. they didn't cut the movie, instead they cut the previews. i don't know if they did that for every showing, but based on how the showtimes are spaced out they must have. it was actually nice to not have to sit through the same old IMAX trailers and have them start the movie right on time. i would have liked to have seen the spidey teaser though.

i assume you've already seen it which is why you are asking which scenes are in 3D, right? 1. when clark first wakes up and daydreams about being a kid and discovering his powers 2. plane rescue 3. crystals forming with lois on the big boat 4. last flight scene rolling into the credits.

i was definitely digging the 3d effect. i don't know if you've heard or read about the new 3d technology that is in the works, but apparantly the picture is amazing. much better than anything current with folks like lucas, spielberg, peter jackson and the like all supporters. anyways, i would loved to have scene this movie with that technology, but as it stands the IMAX 3d was a blast!

i'll probably catch it at the IMAX again soon.

  

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111. "RE: IMAX 3D"
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>yeah, seattle. they didn't cut the movie, instead they cut
>the previews. i don't know if they did that for every showing,
>but based on how the showtimes are spaced out they must have.
>it was actually nice to not have to sit through the same old
>IMAX trailers and have them start the movie right on time. i
>would have liked to have seen the spidey teaser though.
>
>i assume you've already seen it which is why you are asking
>which scenes are in 3D, right?

Seen most of it. Fell asleep during the middle & end.

1. when clark first wakes up
>and daydreams about being a kid and discovering his powers 2.
>plane rescue 3. crystals forming with lois on the big boat 4.
>last flight scene rolling into the credits.
>
>i was definitely digging the 3d effect. i don't know if you've
>heard or read about the new 3d technology that is in the
>works, but apparantly the picture is amazing. much better than
>anything current with folks like lucas, spielberg, peter
>jackson and the like all supporters. anyways, i would loved to
>have scene this movie with that technology, but as it stands
>the IMAX 3d was a blast!
>
>i'll probably catch it at the IMAX again soon.

Yeah I might give it a 2nd shot either there or @ Cinerama

  

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104. "Superman Returns was Depressing..."
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The thing I liked about the film most was the ambiguity of everyone's emotions and the ambiguity of what the audience is supposed to feel for the characters.

When James came to rescue Louise and her kid I damned near teared up: it's like what the fuck is Superman supposed to do now? James didn't punk out, he wasn't at a loss for what to do to save the one's he loved and was prepared to die right along with them. He had some questions about Louise and Superman's relationship but he didn't try to punk Superman or look down on him and was outright appreciative for his family being saved. This is a stand-up dude.

But, that's Superman's boy and it's clear Superman plans to be part of the kid's life so he won't go through the same alienation he felt but how can he displace an upright fellow like James and take everything that matters away from him? I mean damn, it must suck to be Superman and it's gonna suck to be James when that boy destroys his first piece of furniture or incinerates the family cat after looking at him too hard.

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110. "i was thinking the same thing"
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i mean, i know lois is gonna try and hide the fact that the kid is superman's for the benefit of the kid, richard, and the overall family sanity, but that is not gonna last. it would probably be better to just get it out now rather than richard finding out after the kid starts tossing sofas.

f*ck if i didn't feel bad for supes and richard. i'm glad someone else saw it this way too.

  

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118. "dog your missing the entire point of superman"
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superman carries the people, he inspires them to act right.

In every prototypical superman story its a human that usually saves supes from the kryptonite or does the right thing.

If lois' hubbie would have been a dick it would have defeated the purpose, we have the devil in lex, we dont need more problems

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121. "that's all true but you completly bipassed the moral decisions Superman ..."
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122. "Wait..does Louise not remember being impregnated?"
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Isn't that really fucked up? Isn't she wondering how the fuck she ended up with Superman's baby? And no Jokes intended, isn't it fucked up Superman hit it without a condom ignoring that he might knock her up?

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130. "RE: Wait..does Louise not remember being impregnated?"
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>Isn't that really fucked up? Isn't she wondering how the
>fuck she ended up with Superman's baby? And no Jokes
>intended, isn't it fucked up Superman hit it without a condom
>ignoring that he might knock her up?

Who the fuck is Louise?
>
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160. "Watch the old Christopher Reeves' movies. This movie is..."
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... a continuation of THOSE movies. It will make much more sense if you do. How she gets pregnant and all that makes more sense if you consider this.





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112. "Well worth the admission"
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I thought Brandon did a very solid job of filling in the Kent/Superman role esp the former, and he didnt really come off as a too rigid, it came off more as this is a cat who ISNT human but to some extent is becoming more and more assimilated emotionally, but he still has that foreign feel...I liked it. I thought Kate and Spacey did a nice job as well, I loved the kid as well. I really enjoyed the parts in the Daily Planet, and I understand why Singer made the action packed sequence at the beginning, he really wanted to show with an impact that Superman was BACK and how capable he really was if the movie world had forgotten in 5 years(and us in 17!). For some reason though, it seemed like Luther's ultimate plan was just too easy for Superman to destroy, I thought it was gonna be more of a clash but the movie decided more to focus on the emotional aspects and the setup with the Superseed of Superman existing. And if anyone has played FFVI, tell me you didnt RIGHT AWAY get images of the floating continent when Supes is lifting up the landmass, it was the spitting image freal. I thoroughly enjoyed it, the peeping tom shit had me laughing, but Im def looking forward to see how they handle sequels.

PS: I FORGOT HOW WARM YOU FEEL.......lmao, everyone was cracking up or cringing at that part.

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113. "Just returned from the theater"
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and I'm disapointed. Superman doesn't have a kid. Period.
I feel the krytonite island should have killed Supes.
The kryptonite island plan was stupid.
Lois should've spent the movie in traction after that plane ride.
Kumar didn't speak at all, which annoyed me.

*But, the movie looked incredible.
Every time Supes flew, it brought a smile to my face.
This is the Belly of comic book movies.

  

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114. "The highlight: The Spider-Man trailer."
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117. "I may see it again, this time with the thesis that it was"
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Clark Kent, or, Superman as Clark Kent, who was the one who actually hit.
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124. "it was 25 years ago that supes "hit without a condom"."
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condoms werent exactly as commonplace then, the emphasis was nowhere near the fever pitch it is within todays society

YES, i know the continuity of the film is "5 years ago", but the original film was 20 plus years ago... well before condoms became the RULE and not the exception.

course we could just pretend that the original HAD happened 5 years ago

but seriously folks, the condom thing is beyond nitpicking

  

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136. "Plus, do you really think that latex is stopping Kryptonian sperm?"
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I mean really. It's powered by the yellow sun, son.

  

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125. "bunch of haters here"
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what the fuck were you expecting? fuck you if you thought spidey 2 was better than this shit. and i'm not impressed by batman hangin with no ninjas. best superhero movie in this wave/generation, easy.

now, that only means it was a GOOD movie. my only major complaint was the ending dragged (i don't need all those damn scences...cut some shit). the first 30 were waaaay better than the last 30. bosworth and routh did better than i expected. the kid wasn't horrible. spacey and posey had moments, even if their characters weren't quite up to snuff.

but again, fuck y'all.

  

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126. "wow...i'm *really* glad i'm not a comic nerd"
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y'all can't enjoy shit, can you?

"no mention of the 3 Phantom Zone Kryptonians" get the. fuck. outta here.

who the fuck really cares? do long-running comics even have one standard, universally-accepted storyline? god damn, man...just let the movie stand on its own.

this was an excellent take on a character who's usually really, really boring. and the acting was great all-around. how comic fans could complain about a movie this well-made is way beyond my realm of comprehension. i kinda wish McG would've stayed on the project so you mother fuckers could really see what a shitty movie is.

  

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127. "oh, and i love the fact that cyclops gets fucked yet AGAIN"
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i am going to hate that guy forever, just because i hated cykes in X1

and i still saw him as cyclops, and it amde me happy to know that he get the raw end

er... no pun intended

  

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128. "It bored me"
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Superman flies into space, flies down, flies into space, flies down, there's a love story with some girl (wait.. was that damp rag of a woman supposed lois lane? Was that girl supposed to be an actress?), there's some perfunctuory quips, lex luthor stands in formation with a bunch of nobodies who get a weird amount of screentime and gives some speeches that aren't really smart (like his stupid plan), flies into space, fights some rocks, flies into space, gets sick.
The flight effects were fun but nothing else was. Why bog down Superman with forced realism? ("I'm directing Superman. Now, get me a DOP who can rip off the look of a generic TV Show stat!!! I need to bland the shit out of everyhting to make it relatable!!!")

Bryan Singer could be the best director vapid electronics ads to ever live, so why is he wasting his time on telling stories?

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131. "James Marsden is the poster boy"
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for decent dudes who get SHITTED ON.

X-Men, The Notebook, Superman...

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132. "yes, and i love it"
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it's an awesome running theme

  

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148. "for real & it's his niche market. that's his career right there."
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his paycheck, his bread and butter.

he has that market on LOCK. the go-to guy for the third, extraneous corner of the love triangle. lol

cute, bland actor who almost *enjoys* getting dumped, if it means true love prevails in the end. lol

  

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153. "Started w/ Ally McBeal"
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162. "lol, I was gonna make this post"
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133. "RE: The Official Superman Returns Post"
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The movie was solid. It was good, not great but people need to stop nitpicking.

No one can tell that Superman and Clark are the same, get over it people. They may think about it but Clark is such a herb that how could he of all people be Superman and also people don't think Superman would need a secret idenity. Suspend your belief people this has been the premise for seventy years already.

The movie wasn't an action packed extravaganza but the early Supe movies weren't either and so weren't X1, X2, or Spiderman. It is called character development.

Wow, Superman has a kid OMG! Get over it. Most adaptions won't follow the source material closely it just isn't feasible especially with comics that have been around for decades. Shit look at all the changes in the other comic book films. Plus this is apart of the new wave of comic book films where you humanize the heroes. If Superman has a kid/family then it makes him a little bit more like us and like the other sensitive heroes like Spiderman.

And why do people need everything spelled out for them. They obviously want to develop the story over several films and complicated characters and stories don't reveal or discuss everything.

It wasn't as good as Batman Begins (which had major flaws too) but it was better than X1, X3 and Spiderman 1.

And also this is a popcorn summer comic book movie that strived to be a little bit deeper. I applaud their ambition it didn't totally hit the mark but it is a good start especially with the Superman movies that could've been made ie. Lex is a alien and krypton didn't explode...Hell NO!

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134. "RE: The Official Superman Returns Post"
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>The movie was solid. It was good, not great but people need
>to stop nitpicking.

I agree with a lot of what you said...

Here are my likes and dislikes:

Likes:

FX

-Superman levitating with Lois from the roof of the Daily Planet, that was some straight mack shit on Superman's part.

-The part where Superman flies with his back to the ground, and disintegrates the falling debris with his heat ray vision. It's a small thing but I don't think he ever flew like that in the first four movies, which is why it stood out to me.

-Superman going into space to hear everything that was going on in the world, that was hot. In all the other ones, Superman would just show up out of nowhere.

-They kept the original Superman music

-Spacey was a good Lex, and at first I thought about why he surrounds himself with idiots but then it make sense. The idiots around him allow him to confirm his sense of intellectual superiority. AS we see in the movie, he is constantly looking for reassurtance of his genius.

-Dude who played Jimmy Olson nailed it

Dislikes:

-OK, movie called Superman returns, yet why he left and what he saw rendered irrelevant.

-Lex's plot was stupid and uninteresting. With all the knowledge he got from Krypton and all these other worlds, you think he could have done something more diabolical with it.

-Lois was so-so

  

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135. "this is my ONE big gripe...."
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>>>-OK, movie called Superman returns, yet why he left and what he saw rendered irrelevant.<<<

they gave vague mention to it, but beyond that, nothing
much was said. and for something that was SO CRUCIAL for
the whole movie, it seemed like a big oversight.

it would be like started the ODYSSEY off with
odysseus just rolling up back in ithaca, but
barely saying why it took him so long to get
back from the trojan war, and what happened.

i agree with your overall assessment of the movie, too.

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137. "only thing i wanted to add was Kate got NO ass."
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dope camera angles.

the cgi and live action shots were seamless.

glad i ignored this post before seeing it.

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154. "Jeah noticed that 2."
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Could've sworn she had a lil som'n som'n in Blue Crush or Rules of Attraction. Guess not.

  

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138. "84 million this week (52 over the weekend)"
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Not good for a 260 million dollar budget and Pirates coming up.

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139. "horrible opening"
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Aquaman crushed that.

  

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140. "Y'ALL HATIN'"
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Superman Returns was some kind of fire. I loved every minute of it.

The ONLY thing I found wrong was some bad ADR in the scene where Clark and Lois are talking whilst Ms. Lane is trying to hail a cab. Everything else was far, far better than I expected, and sustained my interest (although I already knew at least 60% of what was going to happen).

My favorite scene is the one of Supes stoppin g the bank robbery. A simple scene plotwise, but Singer got that scene closer to looking like a FLeischer Superman cartoon than any other piece of live-action Superman footage I've ever seen.

Oh, and I take back EVERYTHING bad I ever said about Brandon Routh. The guy's alright with me (you know, the guy's alright)*.


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145. "my comments on y'all's comments. *spoilers*"
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*They don't talk much about Supes' trip because it wasn't much to talk about. His trip was a bust. It took five years, because you have to realize that (a) Supes (or rather his spaceship) is only so fast and (b) Krypton is exactly down the street and around the corner.

*What was he looking for out there? Family. And not just an adoptive mother or a cute reporter girlfriend. Another Kryptonian. Someone he could talk to and share his experiences with. But, as he lears, he didn't have to go far to find that.

About Supes not having much dialogue: Superman has never been much of a talker when it comes to regular humans. If he wants to yakk it up, he'll hit up Batman or WOnder Woman or someone (lol). They wanted to portray Superman as a figure to awe, sort of a Jesus Christ analogue (as The Matrix had done with its Superman pastiche, Neo).

About the plot twist: works for me. And remember that Singer said the first two movies are *loose* history; meaning that he could keep one element (Supes + Lois + bed + Marvin Gaye greatest hits LP) and do away with others (three Kryptonian baddies). But, hey, this assures that Clark will never tell Lois his secret in the films (at least not for a while); if he does, the back child-support is gonna bite him in the ass!

Oh, and the kid didn't have to do much other than throw the piano. He probably doesn' even realize how or why he could do that. And stregnth's probably the only thing he's got right now; he won't have full Superman powers until he's a teenager.

*Special effects: I was wowed just by the sight of seeing Superman fly without obvious matte lines and bad process screen. Everything else was just icing on the cake. I think some folks expected...I dunno, to see Burly Brawl shit. Why? Just tell the story.

*All the actors did a great job. Hey, Ebert: Perry White's got to be in his sixties by now. Dude's gotta soften & slow up some time. And I'd imagine that Lois got with Richard not soon after Supes left because she wanted a Superman replacement (Richard is an all around good guy, and A PILOT *key point* as well). But not even Richard is enough Superman for Lois, so what does she do? She starts smoking.

*Kryptonite works slowly. That's always been established. Especially if it's encased in a rock formation like so.

*This movie is really not about Superman, but about how Superman affects/touches the people of the world. Hence the focus on all of the gawking crowds, and the Daily Planet staff. I like the story being told that way; people really would be in raptured awe of a man who can fly, lift tons of weight, etc.

*The public will NEVER figure out the Clark/Supes connection. Maybe it's corny, but it's tradition.

*There was so many good moments of humor in this film. It felt like a really good story arc from the Superman comics (I hate uber-serious comic book movies about men in tights).

*So Superman catches a lot of heavy things. C'mon, it's bulletpoint #1 on his resume. He also melts falling debris in mid-air, puts out an underground fire with ice breath, laughs at the bullets (that was a great scene of a very simple story point), and takes his baby mama for a ride high in the sky just because.

*I can't wait for someone to make the imminent parody "Superman is My Baby-Daddy!"

*This is one of the few modern comic-book mnovies that actually FELT LIKE the comic.

*Oh, and the costume works for me in action. As well as the guy filling it out (except for his a little too obvious padding in the shoulders and legs).

*As I said before, the bullet stopping scene was right out of a Fleischer short. And that shot of him bursting out of the heavens, streaking the sky with gold, screams "Mighty Mouse" (yet another Superman pastiche).

*Would it have been too much to have the little boy with the camera phone be a dark-haired kid with a red & gold shirt, who takes the pictures and then exclaims "Holy Moley"?

*If I see one more ad for "The Any Bully", someone will die.

  

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146. "RE: my comments on y'all's comments. *spoilers*"
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I AGREE WITH THIS REVIEW/COMMENTARY!

one note: Brandon Routh didn't have padding. If you checked out Bryan Singers Blogs and some interviews he doesn't wear padding.

  

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147. "i'm completely with you"
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nice write up.

to everyone that is bitching about people not seeing the clark/superman connection, SHUT THE F*CK UP!! seriously, that's always been apart of the superman story, deal with it.

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155. "RE: my comments on y'all's comments. *spoilers*"
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Good points, but my one question is did Lois sleep with Supes without knowing that he was Clark? That is the only way the movie actually makes any sense. But that would also mean that Supes had to slip out of his super suit to just chill and hit up Lois. Know I was always under the impression that when the suit goes on it's time for action. It's a little like if Spiderman hit up MJ as Spiderman and not Peter. It just aint right.

  

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156. "Didn't Lois know Clark was Supes?"
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Member in superman 4 when clark and lois fell out the window and he changed to Supes?

DAMN!

  

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166. "If you remember from Christopher Reeve's Superman run...."
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... which this new movie obviously plays off of, Superman gave up his powers to be with Lois. They spent the night together (which is where the son is conceived) and then later he gets his powers back and kisses Lois so she magically forgets everything that happened.





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173. "yeah that was in part 2."
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I'm talking about part 4 where CLark and Lois fell out the window, he turned to Superman and they did the flight scene.

DAMN!

  

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175. "3 and 4 no longer exist in the continuity."
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"Superman Returns" is the new "Superman III".

  

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179. "i'm sorry. i blocked part 4 from my memory years ago."
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i had better use for those brain cells.




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149. "it was good"
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but how was he able to lift all that krytonite? i thought if he was within 100 yds of that shit he was done...

  

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151. "winning a pulitzer for an article called"
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"why the world doesn't need superman" is so, so lame. that sounds like the title of an eighth grade composition assignment.

i rolled my eyes so, so hard when i saw that. i also loved how salty superman was about it. it was the FIRST thing he brought up when he went to her *and* he brought it up again later. he was seriously offended! love!

unrelated: even though i didn't think routh worked as well as clark as he did as superman, i found myself wanting to see more clark.

  

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188. "Same thing that I thought"
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I shook my head at the title.

  

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152. "My SO went to go see it last night @ an IMAX theatre w/o me."
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*still pouting about it*

  

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157. "can't wait to see this!"
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i gotta wait til the damned 12th of July.

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158. "did advanced Kryptonian technology never invent landing gears?"
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you'd think a civilization advanced enough to have mastered interstellar travel would've figured out a more effective way to land a spaceship than crashing to the ground in a giant fireball.

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163. "hey everyone, let's play "spot the Christ reference"!"
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matrix, spiderman, and now superman...lol

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165. "all he needed to do was cross one of his legs over"
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woulda been spot on.

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164. "THAT SHIT WAS WACK."
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172. "Eh, I thought it was semi good, worth my free ticket tho"
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At first I wanted to nitpick it, but then when I thought to myself how silly it was superman turns the globe around to reverse time, and this movie is essentally trying to bring back that essence to the present, I pulled back and took it more for what it was: a attempt to pay homage to the greatness of the first two movies.

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178. "i saw it in 3D & was happy..."
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181. "no homo but shouldnt they have stuffed his pants a little bit?"
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i mean, hes meant to be SUPERman
apart from that i thought this movie was super dope
best block buster type film in a long time
it has a real story and plot
not like butt pirates of the carribean - that shit sucked
i thought superman returns was 4.5/5 - story was strong, good morals, acting was tight, no wack scenes, really good movie
this is how big budget films need to be

  

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xbenzive
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186. "RE: no homo but shouldnt they have stuffed his pants a little bit?"
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so many people will disagree with you.

I'm not one.

  

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okokok
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183. "what i didnt get was how she got pregnant"
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like, did clark kent hit it the night before he left earth? cos that would mean she had to have met her new husband the day after otherwise it would look suspicious. unless superman sperm takes a long time to fertilise and makes pregnancy last longer than 9 months

  

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187. "RE: what i didnt get was how she got pregnant"
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watch part 2.

  

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Organ
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185. "If they ever wanted to get Richard out of the story"
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they could just have Lex be his asshole self and tell Richard that the kid isn't his
then if they want him and Lois could break up
that solves that problem (if it is to become a problem)

Knicks yo
Cowboys yo

  

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will_5198
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189. "wow this movie was totally mediocre"
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I never read the comic much, but was Lois always such a dumb bitch? she annoyed the hell out of me the whole movie (I was laughing my ass off when the one goon was beating on her).

too long.

Kevin Spacey was great, even if the "greatest real estate agent alive!" master plan was dumber than dog-shit.

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