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"The official THE DEPARTED post."


  

          

(the other one's a bit of a disaster)

Post all your reviews here.

I'll be seeing it tomorrow.

  

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Subject Author Message Date ID
Andrew Sarris review
Oct 06th 2006
1
??
Oct 06th 2006
2
That post is whack (sic). n/m
Oct 06th 2006
4
      Seriously.
Oct 06th 2006
14
Eff them hater dudes. Marty Won. (SPOILERS)
Oct 06th 2006
3
his last two were oscar bait
Oct 07th 2006
45
the psychiatrist was not involved with the Damon in Infernal Affairs
Oct 07th 2006
47
love triangle
Oct 16th 2006
211
      cause she can't get no satisfaction
Oct 16th 2006
214
           They don't call it Curse of the Irish for nothin nm
Oct 18th 2006
216
8.5 out of 10
Oct 06th 2006
5
^^^ Hell-bent on spoiling the flick
Oct 06th 2006
6
The expiration date on Jay Cam's posts read May 3rd, 2005
Oct 06th 2006
8
      I don't mean to spoil, I only expect those who saw it to be in this post
Oct 06th 2006
10
Wahlberg owns that movie
Oct 06th 2006
7
      p.s. Alec Baldwin was the shit
Oct 06th 2006
11
           Everyone was laughing at that LOL
Oct 06th 2006
12
Saw the 12: 30 matinee
Oct 06th 2006
9
this film is waaaay too funny for a thriller. but fuggit. it was great.
Oct 06th 2006
13
3 hours and change long, maybe, with 2 hours of shit talking
Oct 07th 2006
19
      he had some great lines
Oct 07th 2006
22
      LOL I don't know...but I'm going to give my analysis of this flick
Oct 07th 2006
24
      2:31
Oct 07th 2006
26
absolutely enjoyed every second of it
Oct 06th 2006
15
^^^ co-sign this^^^
Oct 07th 2006
20
3.5 stars out of 4.
Oct 06th 2006
16
Yeah, Dignam was a great character too
Oct 07th 2006
21
Great movie.. (No spoilers)
Oct 07th 2006
17
My lawyer's investigator is from Southie lol
Oct 07th 2006
23
It was pretty good.
Oct 07th 2006
18
::::::::::::::::: SPOILERS:::::::::::::::::::::: quick analysis
Oct 07th 2006
25
after really thinking about it, imo Wahlberg stole the show
Oct 07th 2006
32
As for being an "Internal Affairs" remake
Oct 07th 2006
27
dude... numerous scenes are almost identical. the whole second half
Oct 07th 2006
43
I'm only saying it wasn't a 'remake' because that's what Scorcese said
Oct 08th 2006
55
      well i can imagine they wanted to make a film about that
Oct 08th 2006
59
           the Scarface's were 50 years apart though
Oct 08th 2006
61
           I never thought of 'when your facing a loaded gun' line...
Oct 08th 2006
62
                well normally the baby would be a massive cliche, but
Oct 08th 2006
63
                I thought the impotency was about his guilty conscience
Oct 09th 2006
76
                     RE: I thought the impotency was about his guilty conscience
Oct 09th 2006
84
                     sex/fertility was sort of a key thing
Oct 09th 2006
91
                     Don't forget the close-up of Dignam's hand during a phone convo
Oct 09th 2006
101
                          oh yeah? That's good to know
Oct 09th 2006
107
                               Yeah, and it was real obvious to me...maybe 'cause I'm married
Oct 09th 2006
125
                                    yeah, I mentioned this somewhere else in this monster of a post
Oct 09th 2006
128
                                         UPDATE!!! I SAW IT for a 2nd TIME!!!
Oct 12th 2006
185
                                              whoa!
Oct 12th 2006
188
                                                   lol...didn't you touch on this in #92? n/m
Oct 12th 2006
189
                                                        maybe...I forget. But I didn't know how actively Costello was pursuing
Oct 12th 2006
190
                                                             Costello's Sexuality:
Oct 12th 2006
191
                                                                  wow... that would have been a bit much
Oct 13th 2006
193
                                                                       Yeah, but I'm GLAD he was fuckin the redhead chick, 'cause...
Oct 13th 2006
194
                                                                            Right, Right
Oct 13th 2006
196
                     guilty conscience yes, but let's go deeper
Oct 09th 2006
92
                          Don't forget Queenan and Costello both commanded loyalty
Oct 09th 2006
103
                               yeah, they were both patriarchs
Oct 09th 2006
111
                That wasn't a Church dome
Oct 09th 2006
74
                golden "church" dome.
Oct 11th 2006
160
dude...it's Infernal remake not Internal
Oct 09th 2006
134
How to ruin a film in the last 20 minutes. by Martin Scorsese
Oct 07th 2006
28
EXACTLY...
Oct 09th 2006
81
thank you
Oct 28th 2006
244
Was that the original ending? ****SPOILERS****
Oct 07th 2006
29
Well ****SPOILERS****
Oct 07th 2006
30
Right, Dignam was going to be a cop regardless of a badge
Oct 07th 2006
33
      "Dignam" = Dignity?
Oct 07th 2006
36
I would hit someone if they ended the movie on those notes
Oct 07th 2006
34
I loved it!
Oct 07th 2006
31
GREAT movie... ending left me with mixed emotions...*spoilers*
Oct 07th 2006
35
The only REAL twist to me was...(SPOILER)*
Oct 07th 2006
37
also: *spoilers*
Oct 10th 2006
149
      I'm pretty sure.... **spoilers**
Oct 27th 2006
242
      Evidence of the taped Costello/Sullivan conversations
Oct 28th 2006
250
Something ELSE that was of interest (minus my Dignam thing lol)
Oct 07th 2006
38
RE: Something ELSE that was of interest (minus my Dignam thing lol)
Oct 16th 2006
204
absolutely loved it... great acting but marky mark stole the show imo
Oct 07th 2006
39
LOL @ Marky Mark
Oct 08th 2006
56
      FEEL THE VIBRATIONS ....*pause*
Oct 11th 2006
174
I loved this movie
Oct 07th 2006
40
Scorsese said from now on he's against nudity
Oct 08th 2006
51
Long time Scorcese fan. Just saw it.
Oct 07th 2006
41
your not alone lol I took off work for 'digestive problems'
Oct 08th 2006
57
I loved it
Oct 07th 2006
42
first half of the film was amazing
Oct 07th 2006
44
you sir are obviously not a hit man
Oct 07th 2006
46
yeah i know why he did it but it just looked fucking hilarious
Oct 08th 2006
48
i actually liked the touch
Oct 08th 2006
49
He was also the Irish guy from Braveheart
Oct 13th 2006
192
RE: He was also the Irish guy from Braveheart
Oct 16th 2006
207
      Yes! I knew he looked familiar.
Oct 16th 2006
208
           I think yall are talkin bout 2 different people
Oct 18th 2006
217
                Okay, so I recognized him from Made, then. lol
Oct 18th 2006
219
RE: you sir are obviously not a hit man
Oct 16th 2006
205
      RE: you sir are obviously not a hit man
Oct 18th 2006
218
Those weren't surgical hats.
Oct 09th 2006
86
      lol at "sterile booties"
Oct 28th 2006
243
I fucking loved it
Oct 08th 2006
50
pretty great
Oct 08th 2006
52
Dammit, I need to get to the theatre and see this
Oct 08th 2006
53
Blow off school and work!! Fuck THEM!! Get your priorities STRAIT!!!
Oct 08th 2006
58
Slightly Overhyped
Oct 08th 2006
54
About the 'niggaz' (how Nicholson said it)
Oct 08th 2006
60
about the package
Oct 08th 2006
64
      RE: about the package *****spoilers****
Oct 08th 2006
65
           RE: about the package *****spoilers****
Oct 09th 2006
73
                Maybe she DID do that...Dignam DID show up at the apartment
Oct 09th 2006
77
                puts a different spin on why she can't look at him at the funeral
Oct 09th 2006
85
                yeah, she HAD to have contacted Dingam
Oct 09th 2006
93
                     You guys honestly don't think Dignan put 2 and 2 together?
Feb 15th 2007
266
                          It's not so much a matter of him not being able to figure it out as...
Feb 26th 2007
286
                it was written that way to make dignam at the end
Feb 26th 2007
289
Best use of Dropkick Murphy's ever **Spoilers**
Oct 08th 2006
66
I agree on how well they used the Dropkick Murphy's track
Oct 08th 2006
67
that shit made me wanna down some pints of Guinness & get in a bar fight
Oct 11th 2006
171
RE: The official THE DEPARTED post.
Oct 08th 2006
68
I said it above too
Oct 09th 2006
75
      Damn didn't want any redemtion...at least out in the open
Oct 09th 2006
78
Thanks Marty.
Oct 08th 2006
69
SPOILER (well slightly, more of an insignificant scene discussion)
Oct 09th 2006
70
While I thought he was quite good in The Aviator...
Oct 09th 2006
71
'What'chu gonna do? Run home to your MOMMA?!'
Oct 09th 2006
79
Let's re-think this statement...
Feb 15th 2007
267
9.5/10
Oct 09th 2006
72
*MAJOR SPOILERS* This movie turned to ass when...
Oct 09th 2006
80
Anthony Anderson....
Oct 09th 2006
82
Yep (SPOILER)
Oct 09th 2006
83
Are you serious?
Oct 09th 2006
104
      i concur
Oct 09th 2006
117
           I'll laugh when Marty contradicts you both on the DVD commentary
Oct 09th 2006
118
                ^^worst revenge plot ever^^
Oct 10th 2006
138
                     ^^ Hoping and praying for a feature on the "animal trainer" ^^
Oct 10th 2006
143
                          animal WRANGLER...you should no better. Besides, shit's been made (link...
Oct 10th 2006
145
                               ^^ Remorseless joke killer ^^
Oct 10th 2006
147
                                    ^^^doesn't get me and never will^^^ *sniffle* n/m
Oct 10th 2006
157
I thought Anderson...
Oct 09th 2006
108
      Anderson was kinda of used to get our hopes up for a minute
Oct 09th 2006
126
gonna agree and then disagree here...
Oct 09th 2006
88
      See 108 and tell me what you think of that n/m
Oct 09th 2006
110
           yeah, I'm still not sure what to make of Anderson's character
Oct 09th 2006
115
I liked it a lot, but...
Oct 09th 2006
87
that shot got laughs in my theater too
Oct 09th 2006
89
this is exactly how I took it also
Oct 09th 2006
90
yep
Oct 09th 2006
94
Throughly enjoyed the fuck out of this
Oct 09th 2006
95
lol I forgot all about this
Oct 09th 2006
97
*sigh* That went over my head.
Oct 09th 2006
99
      RE: *sigh* That went over my head.
Oct 16th 2006
206
           it would have been funnier of 'U Aint Nothing But A Hound-dog' was
Oct 16th 2006
209
           Dude, I'm familiar with what comic relief is.
Oct 16th 2006
213
Eh, maybe so. n/m
Oct 09th 2006
96
same here
Oct 09th 2006
124
      for real, this movie was a laugh riot
Oct 09th 2006
129
I was too incredulous to laugh.
Oct 09th 2006
98
      .
Oct 09th 2006
102
           What? n/m
Oct 09th 2006
106
Am I the only one who figured Dignam PUT that rat there
Oct 09th 2006
105
nah, it was probably just the animal trainer
Oct 09th 2006
109
*SPOILER*
Oct 09th 2006
112
      do baby wranglers carry around tiny little lassos?
Oct 09th 2006
121
           Naw dude, the big ones. Babies are stronger than they look...
Oct 09th 2006
131
was it a rat or a mole?
Oct 09th 2006
119
      when the Orkin man shows up...WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE!!!
Oct 09th 2006
120
           ^^^^made me fart^^^^^!
Oct 09th 2006
127
                I didn't know people could have impeccable timing on the internet n/m
Oct 09th 2006
132
                     Unlike these other guys, I can read OVER an 8th grade level tho
Oct 10th 2006
139
                     but you use the word "fart" in a post title...
Oct 10th 2006
146
                     ..of course they can.
Oct 15th 2006
198
RE: I liked it a lot, but...
Oct 09th 2006
114
Yeah, that's the original ending you're describing.
Oct 09th 2006
116
I agree with most of it
Oct 10th 2006
135
100th post
Oct 09th 2006
100
*applauds and hoots* You've been riding this post all day n/m
Oct 09th 2006
113
you don't smoke? what are you one of them health nuts?
Oct 09th 2006
122
LOL 'My sister drinks cranberry juice when she's on her period'
Oct 09th 2006
123
9.9 out 10
Oct 09th 2006
130
These are Irish guys in Boston...the should used the N-word more
Oct 10th 2006
140
      Roommate
Oct 10th 2006
148
           come on, this isn't a movie about white college grads
Oct 10th 2006
151
           Southie is/was racist as hell
Oct 10th 2006
154
           it's like the Sopranos
Oct 11th 2006
177
A+ movie on all accounts
Oct 09th 2006
133
the 3 leads were great but wahlberg and baldwin OWNED THAT SHIT.
Oct 10th 2006
136
he's usually a pretty nice guy, please dont make a determination
Oct 10th 2006
137
Baldwin MERKED 'Along Came Polly' too lol.
Oct 10th 2006
141
saw this last night...it was kinda silly to me
Oct 10th 2006
142
i agree it was messy, frivalous, unrefined...
Oct 10th 2006
150
I think I treated it like Punch-Drunk Love
Oct 10th 2006
153
yeah, see, i don't think i expected it to be as silly as it was
Oct 10th 2006
155
      I think irreverent is the word here
Oct 11th 2006
159
man, Infernal Affairs is nothing compared to this
Oct 11th 2006
178
      man you trippin
Oct 11th 2006
180
      Agreed.
Oct 11th 2006
181
the musik
Oct 10th 2006
144
lol @ the reference to croissants as "french donuts"
Oct 10th 2006
152
ALOT better the 2nd time
Oct 10th 2006
156
very good movie... but i got a question...
Oct 10th 2006
158
dignam quit
Oct 11th 2006
161
so what
Oct 11th 2006
179
deleting the profile
Oct 11th 2006
169
      lol...I know.
Oct 11th 2006
170
      RE: lol...I know.
Oct 11th 2006
175
      not to post-jack this into a wire discussion, but
Oct 28th 2006
247
      RE: deleting the profile
Feb 15th 2007
268
      RE: deleting the profile
Feb 25th 2007
283
      RE: deleting the profile
Feb 25th 2007
282
can someone link me to the Infernal Affairs movie
Oct 11th 2006
162
isohunt/netflix is your friend
Oct 11th 2006
163
      i don't want to download it........i just want an IMDB link
Oct 11th 2006
164
           Did you do a *title* search?
Oct 11th 2006
165
           here
Oct 11th 2006
166
                Booooo. lol
Oct 11th 2006
167
                RE: thanks!...........n.m.
Oct 11th 2006
168
anyone notice mad X's in the background before big scenes?
Oct 11th 2006
172
This was actually pointed out in one or two reviews I read
Oct 11th 2006
173
Here's one
Oct 12th 2006
183
If so, that would be an homage to Hawks' Scarface
Oct 11th 2006
176
you sure???
Oct 12th 2006
182
      right before then when Damon was on the computer
Oct 15th 2006
199
no one's mentioned the Wolverine comic yet...
Oct 12th 2006
184
Good point...
Oct 12th 2006
186
      what was Costello's line in that scene...'they call that a paradox'
Oct 12th 2006
187
           Whitey Bulger's brother was a big shot government guy in Boston
Oct 13th 2006
195
           RE: Whitey Bulger's brother was a big shot government guy in Boston
Oct 18th 2006
220
           RE: what was Costello's line in that scene...'they call that a paradox'
Feb 25th 2007
284
im no where near a good movie critic
Oct 14th 2006
197
no tickie. /nm/
Oct 15th 2006
200
B+
Oct 15th 2006
201
same here! haha
Oct 15th 2006
202
ok, after a second watch
Oct 15th 2006
203
MY boy Peter is the in shape Korean cat in the film.
Oct 16th 2006
210
Leo's "Deniro moment"
Oct 16th 2006
212
the TITLE shuld have tipped off the ending
Oct 18th 2006
215
B-
Oct 18th 2006
221
RE: B-
Oct 18th 2006
222
RE: B-
Oct 19th 2006
225
RE: B-
Oct 19th 2006
224
      RE: B-
Oct 19th 2006
227
decent movie.... *spoilers for IA & Departed*
Oct 19th 2006
223
Exactly.
Oct 19th 2006
226
RE: decent movie.... *spoilers for IA & Departed*
Oct 19th 2006
228
OK maybe I'm slow or something
Oct 21st 2006
229
Wow. Not at all.
Oct 22nd 2006
230
I don't really read alot of those kinds of sites
Oct 22nd 2006
231
      Well, there was mention of it in here, too.
Oct 22nd 2006
232
           Must have missed that part of the post
Oct 22nd 2006
233
well... most remakes are obvious because they have the same title
Oct 22nd 2006
234
? about the picture drawn
Oct 23rd 2006
235
Yeah, that irked me.
Oct 23rd 2006
236
i thought it was just two people having sex
Oct 23rd 2006
237
      she saw Costello in the restaurant
Oct 28th 2006
245
<<< shows up late as always <<<
Oct 25th 2006
238
Hmm...I didn't get that vibe.
Oct 25th 2006
239
yeah I thought he kinda repped well in this one. n/m
Oct 25th 2006
240
      yeah, dude won me over with this one.
Oct 28th 2006
246
Leo SHOULD get an Oscar nod for this one.
Oct 26th 2006
241
This film has LEGS at the box office, damn!
Oct 28th 2006
248
100 Mil
Nov 06th 2006
255
Just saw the film today, 10/28/06. Yep-Late, Nope-didn't read
Oct 28th 2006
249
Damon couldnt get it up enough for her...
Nov 15th 2006
260
questions after watching (spoilers)
Oct 29th 2006
251
some answers.
Oct 29th 2006
252
      Costigan gave Dignam's contact info to ol'girl
Nov 07th 2006
257
           maybe it was his DNA readings so she knew whose baby it was
Nov 07th 2006
258
7.5 out of 10
Nov 05th 2006
253
RE: 7.5 out of 10
Nov 06th 2006
254
      haha cosign your cosign
Nov 06th 2006
256
Article on The Departed's cinematography
Nov 10th 2006
259
I just watched it
Feb 02nd 2007
261
i just saw it last night too
Feb 03rd 2007
262
      a couple others
Feb 03rd 2007
263
           there wasn't another undercover cop in Frank's gang
Feb 14th 2007
264
best Scorsese flick since Goodfellas
Feb 14th 2007
265
it says so right on the box!
Feb 15th 2007
269
My 2 cents
Feb 15th 2007
270
^^^Stolen from my pocket
Feb 15th 2007
271
      From my POV
Feb 15th 2007
272
I was VERY Disappointed
Feb 15th 2007
273
Up for further discussion..
Feb 16th 2007
274
The lack of character development was a major point of the movie
Feb 16th 2007
275
well...
Feb 19th 2007
280
in frank's words it's called a "PARADOX"
Feb 25th 2007
285
if you saw infernal affairs first, you probably gonna think
Feb 19th 2007
281
After the *mumbles* -th viewing, one thing is really bugging me
Feb 16th 2007
276
I liked the abrupt editing
Feb 19th 2007
278
4th time around and I still love it
Feb 17th 2007
277
A-
Feb 19th 2007
279
My post about the ending was deleted...SPOILERS...
Feb 26th 2007
287
      Last post con't...SPOILERS...
Feb 26th 2007
288
      you might want to watch the movie again.
Feb 26th 2007
290
ok so im late as hell..jus bought the dvd
Mar 02nd 2007
291

Mynoriti
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1. "Andrew Sarris review"
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I haven't read the whole thing so I don't know how spoiler free it is. I don't want to know anymore than I already do.

but, um.. he likes it. hey mikey!

Scorsese Takes Boston,
And Electrifies With Departed

By Andrew Sarris

Martin Scorsese’s The Departed, from a screenplay by William Monahan, based on Andrew Lau and Alan Mak’s 2002 Hong Kong crime thriller Infernal Affairs, provides an electrifying entertainment for this fall moviegoing season in its police-mobster machinations and deep undercover penetration by both sides of the law. In this respect, The Departed strikes unexpectedly deep chords of tragic poignancy with the emotional fallout from an atmosphere of perpetual paranoia so characteristic of our post-9/11 world. No one can completely trust anyone else.

Mr. Scorsese and his associates have assembled a remarkably charismatic cast to impart coherence and conviction to a narrative that could have easily dwindled into an affectless succession of gratuitous intrigues. Jack Nicholson makes his first appearance in a Scorsese project as the paternalistic but ruthless South Boston mob boss Frank Costello, who has become the prime target of the Massachusetts State Police. A young rookie cop from South Boston named Billy Costigan, played by Leonardo DiCaprio, has accepted an assignment to go deep undercover in the Costello mob, which requires that he literally change his identity by serving time in prison on a fake assault conviction. Billy already had mob connections in his family, and was motivated to undertake this dangerous mission by a desire to exorcize the demons of his tainted family.

Mr. Scorsese, who worked with Mr. DiCaprio in the generally underrated Gangs of New York (2002) and The Aviator (2004), thereby felt an unusual rapport with the actor over his difficulties in dissembling: “As an actor, I knew Leo would convey the conflict of a young man who has gotten himself into a bad situation and then wonders what the hell he is doing there. You can see it in his face; you can see it in his eyes. That’s one of the reasons I like working with Leo—he knows how to express emotional impact without saying a word. It emanates from him. He is quite extraordinary to watch.”

Mr. DiCaprio’s Billy is, however, only one side of the elaborate doppelgänger edifice that Mr. Scorsese and his Boston-savvy scenarist, Mr. Monahan, have constructed out of the two-way betrayal idea imported from the Hong Kong–based original, Infernal Affairs. Hence, while Billy is agonizing in his private hell of mob infiltration, Matt Damon’s Colin Sullivan is sailing through the ranks of the Massachusetts State Police Department to become a plainclothes detective in a Special Investigation Unit under Captain Queenan (Martin Sheen) and his persistently and profanely suspicious second-in-command, Sergeant Dignam (Mark Wahlberg). Here the chain of command becomes entangled in the inbred secretiveness of all police bureaucracies. Hence, though both Queenan and Dignam supposedly answer to the head of the Special Investigations Unit, Captain Ellerby (Alec Baldwin), they are the only members of the unit who know that Billy has infiltrated the Costello organization.

But what no one at the top—not Ellerby, not Queenan, not Dignam—knows is that Colin has been groomed from the time he was 12 by Costello himself to infiltrate the Massachusetts State Police Department. Like Hitchcock, Mr. Scorsese prefers suspense to surprise in his narrative, to the point that the audience is always one step ahead of the characters as they thrash about in search of the ever-elusive mole in the midst.

To add to the almost comical convulsions of paranoia on both sides, we are very casually informed that Costello himself has gained immunity from the F.B.I. as one of their paid informants. Thus, systematically botched sting operations and incomplete surveillance enable Costello to pursue his drug deals, to facilitate his extortion of merchants and shopkeepers and, finally, with post-9/11 flair, to traffic in instruments of terror with Chinese gangs.

The heart of the film, however, concerns the blighted lives and choices of the two co-protagonists played by Mr. DiCaprio and Mr. Damon. These two action superstars would normally never be cast together in the same picture, especially since they look remarkably alike when they are surly or snarly. Police psychiatrist Madeleine, played by Vera Farmiga, hammers home the doppelgänger device by becoming involved with Colin and Billy, first as patients and then as lovers. Her scenes with the two men are very lucidly written and resourcefully acted, and thus relieve some of the relentless tensions of their impersonations. Rumor has it that Madeleine’s part was expanded to give the film some air in its almost suffocating progression to an inexorably nihilistic climax.

Just as there are two turncoats mirroring each other on either side of the legal divide, so there are two parallel organizations representing the conflicting interests of the cops and robbers. In line with this parallelism, Frank Costello mirrors his adversaries in the state police—Captain Ellerby and his underlings, Queenan and Dignam—with his own cold-blooded second-in-command, Mr. French, played by the brilliant British actor Ray Winstone, and French’s two blood-splattered henchmen, Fitzy and Delahunt (David O’Hara and Mark Rolston).

Mr. Scorsese pays fleeting tributes to two noir classics from the past, first in a cemetery scene reminiscent of Carol Reed and Graham Greene’s The Third Man (1949), and then with an almost subliminal invocation of Costello’s first name and his Irish-Catholic heritage from John Ford and Liam O’Flaherty’s The Informer (1935). All in all, however, Mr. Scorsese has shown in The Departed, as he has never shown before, an ability to integrate his explosive acting set pieces with a seamlessly flowing narrative. It may be that the sheer intensity of Mr. Monahan’s identification with Irish-Americans has given Mr. Scorsese enough distance from his traditional Italian-American roots to enable him to be more detached and contemplative about the Irish-American milieu of The Departed. Whatever the reason, it is truly an occasion for rejoicing.

  

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14. "Seriously."
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3. "Eff them hater dudes. Marty Won. (SPOILERS)"
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THIS is a Martin Scorsese Picture.

Not a three-hour, yet half-assed story of New York gangs and immigrants and Cameron Diaz.

Not a three-hour, yet half-assed and emotionally cold story of an eccentric billionaire flying planes and pissing in bottles.

THIS is a Martin Scorsese Picture. Even if it is a "reimagining." It's rough. Very funny. Grim. Cynical. Smarmy. Raw as fuck. The very definition of a "Hard R." Thank you, Jesus, I was starting to think he lost it.

Yeah, there are a few nitpicky things you can poke holes in, especially in the last hour, mainly dealing with cell phones.

And yeah, the last shot is a little cheesy. But fuck that, it's Marty, it's art.

The performances were so uniformly good, it's hard to pick cats who stood out, but I'ma do it anyway. Jack, Jack, Jack. Superb. I want him to get nominated for something. Best Actor, Best Supporting, it doesn't matter. Leo was fine, though I admit I got tired of seeing his "Fuck, I'm so conflicted about this whole deal" face. Matt Damon is a damn good actor. There are a couple of times where he has to weasel his way out of a situation, and he does it without getting frazzled and losing his cool, which is what his character required. Mark Wahlberg was fantastic. Even Anthony Anderson was fine in a limited role. Add Alec Baldwin and Martin Sheen to the mix, and everything's cool, though the "Baaahston" accents sounded a bit false coming from everyone who wasn't a native.

I also had a problem with the love interest. So this Madolyn (Vera Farmiga), a psychiatrist digs on Colin Sullivan (Matt Damon). Then she just happens to start counseling William Costigan (Leo DeCaprio). Then, as she's moving in with Colin, she sleeps with William. Huh? I don't think the story needed her to sleep with William. We understand, based on his sessions with her, that she's the only person he can trust, as he tells her near the end. We don't need to see him making out with her to get it. The story didn't need it. Which points to one of the flaws of slavishly adapting or "reimagining" a film. Unless it didn't happen in Infernal Affairs (I can't remember, I didn't like it very much, sorry, PTP) and Warner Bros. mandated that Leo get a love scene...

But yeah. That's nitpicky shit. This is a Martin Scorsese Picture. I'm going to see it again this weekend.
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45. "his last two were oscar bait"
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it was clear with both of 'em that he was aiming for best picture.

this one says "fuck an oscar. lemme just do what i do best"

and I love him for it.

  

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47. "the psychiatrist was not involved with the Damon in Infernal Affairs"
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The story didn't need it. Which
>points to one of the flaws of slavishly adapting or
>"reimagining" a film. Unless it didn't happen in Infernal
>Affairs (I can't remember, I didn't like it very much, sorry,
>PTP) and Warner Bros. mandated that Leo get a love scene...
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what you had there was hollywood shoe-horning one of its 'love triangles' into the plot
(although it wasn't all bad. but yeah it was mainly just for 'the tits')

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211. "love triangle"
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Why did she sleep with him? Only she knows.
However... it makes sense that she would open the letter to her boyfriend, Sullivan, from Costigan. She was nervous that Costigan was trying to tell Sullivan that he fucked his girl. So that's why she opened the letter and played the CD, to protect herself. She had no idea that they knew each other.

  

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214. "cause she can't get no satisfaction"
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as was hinted at in an early scene ('do you want to talk about last night? most guys make too big a deal out of it), Sullivan had some performance issues

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5. "8.5 out of 10"
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I didn't have a problem with the writing (like most OKPs), the editing was normal Scorsese, Scorsese's directing was good, the acting was good/okay (Nicholson was "meh", I thought DiCaprio was good, and Marky Mark stole the show). The ONLY reasons it wasn't perfect was the envelope and the end, although I liked what happened, if you can figure it out before seeing it then you can't say it was flawless.

  

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6. "^^^ Hell-bent on spoiling the flick"
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Come on, bro
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8. "The expiration date on Jay Cam's posts read May 3rd, 2005"
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This guys posts are spoiled, sour, and chunky lol

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10. "I don't mean to spoil, I only expect those who saw it to be in this post"
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expired???

come on now

  

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7. "Wahlberg owns that movie"
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That guy was making every LOL.

He was such a prick...you had to love him lol

The guy had mad quotables.

"Maybe yes...maybe no...maybe go fuck yourself".

I thought Baldwin was good too, for his minimal screen time.

Nicholson was just a sociopath...I basically just expected an eccentric psycho gangster, and he did his damn thing.

Damon was excellent, 'cause he's such a likeable dude in his other movies, and you watched this movie hating his damn guts lol

Leo was greeat, nuff said.

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11. "p.s. Alec Baldwin was the shit"
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I was dying when he snuffed that computer tech dude

  

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12. "Everyone was laughing at that LOL"
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It reminded me of Gangs of New York when the two different fire departments got the the burning building, and they just started beating eachother instead of fighting the fire LOL

Baldwin just said WHAP!!!!

Wahlberg said WHAP!!!!

Everyone was just beating eachother up in this flick lol

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9. "Saw the 12: 30 matinee"
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I loved it. I thought it was excellent, and I'm going to confront every punk-ass reviewer who dare slander that ending.

The ending was the shit.

I don't see how it was "too fast" or "twistee" at all. It was a surprise, but it was a good surprise. I didn't see the problem at all, and everyone else in the theatre loved it too.

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13. "this film is waaaay too funny for a thriller. but fuggit. it was great."
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19. "3 hours and change long, maybe, with 2 hours of shit talking"
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I'll say it again, Wahlberg owns this movie.

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22. "he had some great lines"
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and was that a toupe?

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24. "LOL I don't know...but I'm going to give my analysis of this flick"
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soon

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26. "2:31"
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15. "absolutely enjoyed every second of it"
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The acting was spot-on, Wahlberg and Baldwin played their fucking parts perfectly...the amount of humor they threw in was quite surprising, lol.

I really loved everything, other than the whole sex scene that wasnt needed.....you didnt need that to establish the relationship between the two, they just wanted a racy scene imo.

I really liked it, Damon was incredible as well, hell it was gritty as fuck too....please watch this movie ya'll.

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20. "^^^ co-sign this^^^"
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I didn't really mind the sex scene, tho...it wasn't too long.

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16. "3.5 stars out of 4."
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I really liked The Departed. Everything was on point in this film IMO.

Mark Wahlberg should get an supporting actor nod from somewhere. He was over-the-top like Joe Pesci in Goodfellas. Leo was just as good as he was in The Aviator.

The only thing anyone can say against this movie is that it's a remake and that the violence gets very close to becoming cartoonish. IMO, that's what killed Casino and I'm glad that Scorsese hadn't went as far as he did in that particular film.

On a side note, I'd have to say that The Departed is easily one of the gulliest American films not made by QT that I've seen in a while.






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21. "Yeah, Dignam was a great character too"
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He was written real well

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17. "Great movie.. (No spoilers)"
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Other than the love interest and the overdone accents this was marty at it's best. A great storyline, quality actors doing good material, and jack doing jack. I like marty not caring about an oscar.


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23. "My lawyer's investigator is from Southie lol"
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I wouldn't say the accents are overdone as much as underdone.

This guy talks, and it's like....gawd, man...speak English!! lol

I told him I'm going to get him a little something for St. Paddies day, and he flew off the handle "AGH!!! I LUFF SAINT PADDAYS DAAAAY!!" lol

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18. "It was pretty good."
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The only time i liked Nicholson's "Hey,look at me" acting style was in A Few Good Men. He is the only thing I didn't care for in this movie.

Baldwin's performance was similar, but he only does it when he's supporting and it works for me.

  

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25. "::::::::::::::::: SPOILERS:::::::::::::::::::::: quick analysis"
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People were expecting a Boston/Irish Goodfellas. People also expect Jesus to come down every new years lol

One thing that was different about this film is the bad guys were BAD GUYS. In Goodfellas, you LIKED Henry, Jimmy, and Tommy. They did crime, but you LIKED them. The movie was ABOUT them.

In Star Wars, Vader was a bad guy, but he was a cool bad guy.

In The Departed, Nicholson was a bad guy, and he was a scumbag lol You might've liked his acting, but the guy creeped you out, and you didn't walk out of the movie liking him. He got canned and he deserved it. He had a few charming parts, but for the most part...starting from the beginning when Colin was a kid in the store, they painted Constello as a prick that might make you chuckle, but he was a prick.

His crew...French, Fitzy...they were all pricks. They might've made you laugh (Fitzi's "citizins" incident, or the 2 goons trying to tell who were undercover cops come to mind), but when they died, you almost thought "thank god...the prick" lol

Dignam was the shit in this movie, simply because...

Well, at the beginning when him and Queenan were interviewing Sullivan and Costigan, Dignam was brain-fucking them to see if they were detective material. He was being a dick, testing their patience, and busting balls x's 10. He said something that really didn't hit me until after the movie. He said he was trying to see if they really WANTED to be a cop, or they were just trying to pretend to be cops. Dignam was a cop...he hated criminals, and he hated other cops he didn't trust. He was a 110% boy scout, even though he was a prick to everyone.

At the end of the movie, after Dignam quit, he still found Sullivan and killed him. Why? Because even tho he quit being a cop, he was still a cop. He capped Sullivan because it was the right thing to do, period. That was the whole point. Dignam was a cop...

Dignam and Queenan were the only REAL real good guys in the movie. Queenan died, and Dignam was still a cop. He told Costigan something like "You can pretend to be a cop all you want, but your still a Southie fuck-up no matter what...nothing will change that".

Maybe I'm the only one who saw it, but Dignam was a boy scout, out to do the right thing...whether or not he wore a badge, and that meant he was who HE was, no matter what.

Plus, if you notice, everytime he busted Costigan's balls...and he did, HARD...when it was time to leave, he always got out of his zone, and was concerned for Costiagn. Even at the beginning, when they proposed undercover work, Dignam was like "Yeah, we need you out there". By the bridge, they were in the car, and Dignam (even after Costiagn punched him) was like "You take care, ok?"

Dignam was just doing his job, from beginning to end.

Basically, in this movie...the good guys shine, but you don't really know who the good guys are until the very end.

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32. "after really thinking about it, imo Wahlberg stole the show"
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He was THAT good imo with his portrayal, I mean like you mentioned how he went so far back and forth, and yet so much still in character, it was honestly amazing to watch how varied the character was and how he pulled it off what seemed like effortlessly.

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27. "As for being an "Internal Affairs" remake"
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Which it's not...maybe a take on it, but people have to realize...Whitey Bulger and Agent Connelly.

This was a real story. I KNEW Frank Costello was an indirect representation of Whitey Bulger, period. The fucked up sociopath personality, the sexual perversions...the fact that he was running shit in Southie for years. Hell, I even thought Nicholson LOOKED like Whitey.

It wasn't even until about a month ago I found out he wasn't just playing Whitey.

For anyone who doesn't know, Agent Connelly was a little kid in the projects who was getting his ass beat, and a younger Whitey Bulger saved him. Connelly later on became an FBI agent, and was tipping off Bulger for years, so he could avoid being arrested. It's almost identical to the Costello/Sullivan relationship.

Also, Bulger was an informant, as well. I'm not sure with what agency. Bulger would do business with Italian families, then turn'em in...as well as 2-bit murderers, etc... in the area. Bulger was constantly throwing the agencies bones until there was no one else to throw under the bus...then he went on the lamb. Connelly eventually went down too.

I'm positive "internal Affairs" played a part in this movie, but the Whitey Bulger story seems just as influencial, if not more. Maybe Scorcese and Monahan (a Boston native) saw very strong similarities in both stories. I would go as far as to say the story STARTED OFF as a Whtiey Bulger adaption, and then went to an "Internal Affairs"-ish story to add more to it.

An excellent book to check out is Edward Makenzie's "Street Soldier", about being an enforcer for Whitey. Frank Costello WAS Whitey Bulger. Maybe the fact that Whitey is still on the run had something to do with it *shrugs*

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43. "dude... numerous scenes are almost identical. the whole second half"
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have you seen Infernal Affairs?
i mean that's interesting to know that there's a similar true story about those characters. i'll need to read more about it. is it quite a big coincidence?

but anyway, it IS a remake, same key scenes, even same dialogue for quite a lot of it

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55. "I'm only saying it wasn't a 'remake' because that's what Scorcese said"
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My point was that there seems to be alot of intertwining similarities between the Whitey Bulger story, and "Internal Affairs". Monahan probably recognized this.

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59. "well i can imagine they wanted to make a film about that"
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then realized how well it could fit into Infernal Affairs. that seems quite likely to me

i think i'll buy the dvd because there was quite a lot of things i want to investigate. quite a lot of quotations and references and stuff. and some of the plot elements that seemed a bit frivalous, like dingham turning up at the end in fucking mittens a shower cap and diaper,, like that linked up with the opening thing about 'when you're facing a loaded gun, what's the differene' in a deeper way than you expected; other things like how di caprio's character wanted to sort of redeem his family by becoming a cop, and then possibly has a son via the psychiatrist lady, but then the father might also be sullivan; the estate agent saying 'you'll be upper class in a week' as they looked out the same window as the final shot with the rat walking along... sorta saying there's corruption at the highest levels, even what dingham did shows corruption. so.... yeah, there's some stuff there

it just blatantly is a remake in the sense that a lot of it is copied exactly from Infernal Affairs
i mean i've never seen the original scarface but i suspect the 'it's not a remake' line would be more appropriate for something like that

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61. "the Scarface's were 50 years apart though"
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62. "I never thought of 'when your facing a loaded gun' line..."
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that makea alot of sense.

Also, Leo was tortured, because he was from both extremes. On his mother's side, he was well-to-do, then on his father's side, his family was connected and he spent weakends in the projects. Dignam would tell him he's just a Southie bum from the projects, then turn around and tell him he's "lace curtain Irish" and a thug wannabe...

His father's side were criminals, but they loved him (his aunt joyously hugging him at her front door)

His mother's side were uppity, but they were assholes and neglectful (his conversation w/ his uncle).

That's why he was a perfect candidate for the undercover work, because he wanted to be a detective, but he had just enough street cred to pull it off.

Some imagery I don't think I'll ever get, like Sullivan's obsession with that church dome. It really didn't tie in. I would understand if he was a bad guy looking for some sort of redemption, but he was pretty much a scoundrel prick lol

Also, the baby woukld've been a cool element to focus on, but I don't think they meant for any more focus to be put on that. Actually, I don't know why they brought a baby into it, because after the sonogram picture, there was pretty much nothing else, except for when Sullivan asked about it @ the funeral. For all we know, I think she gave the impression she terminated it.







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63. "well normally the baby would be a massive cliche, but"
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at the climax of the story damon brings up fathers&sons ('all that fucking and no son, is that what this is about?'), and nicolson had been talking to dicaprio about it earlier in the film in what was a rather strange scene. so maybe there's something deeper there? there's also hints that damon is impotent... although maybe that's just to justify why psychiatrist actually slept with dicaprio. there's maybe a few pieces to the puzzle we're missing

as for the church dome... in fact even the title, The Departed, The faithful departed, refers to the catholic church

there must be more to it

did costigan have a priest in his family? his father? i thought they mentioned it at one point but i'm not sure who or what

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76. "I thought the impotency was about his guilty conscience"
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maybe...

there's ALOT in this movie that can fuck with your head for years to come lol Maybe this, and maybe that...

What convo between Costello and Costigan were you referring to?

There were rumors of bisexuality w/ Whitey Bulger, amongst pedophilia and other perversions, but... one thing is for certain, Costello was banging chicks left and right in that movie, so... the latant homosexuality accusations should fly out the window right there.

The only other fucked up comments was when he flirted with that cashier chick at the beginning of the movie, and then he said he "has a date with some angels", during that little parade...but I think it was just used to incinuate that Costello was just a scumbag, which he was (same thing as when he was screwing w/ the priests and nun in the restaurant). Plus, with the angels thing, I think he was just fuckin w/ Dignam and Queenan to get their goat.

Maybe he's sterile *shrugs* Damn asked him about it, and that's when Costello took a shot. He must've hit a nerve.

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84. "RE: I thought the impotency was about his guilty conscience"
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>maybe...
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>there's ALOT in this movie that can fuck with your head for
>years to come lol Maybe this, and maybe that...
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>What convo between Costello and Costigan were you referring
>to?

the one just before he starts picking on the nun and the priests

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91. "sex/fertility was sort of a key thing"
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The fathers/sons theme was a major aspect, although I think I need to see this one a couple more times before I can decide what the overall message was with all that.

You had Costello's sterility hinted at...Damon's impotence...

Some of called the one sex scene unnecessary but I think it's pretty relevant that we see DiCaprio's character in the act and not Damon's. Not to mention it adds to the whole 'who's the real daddy' mystery.

To go one step further, Sheen's character (damn I'm bad with character names) seems to have some semblance of a happy home life, and he mentions his son often.

Costello seemed like absolute evil whereas Sheen was absolute good. Every other character was playing some shade of gray in between... Sheen seemed to take a genuine joy in his role as a family man, while Baldwin (still a cop and technically one of the 'good' guys saw marriage as a means of getting ahead in society.

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101. "Don't forget the close-up of Dignam's hand during a phone convo"
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he had on a wedding band. He looked like a young-and-firey cop who would probably grow up to be a Queenan-type dude some day.

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107. "oh yeah? That's good to know"
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I was kind of wondering where he fell on the spectrum.

That adds a lot to his character, actually. I'm sorry I missed it.

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125. "Yeah, and it was real obvious to me...maybe 'cause I'm married"
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I didn't think how it fit into the plot until everyone's playing the connect the dots on here LOL I figured alot of stuff out, but this shit is coming out in layers.

Once you brought up your points, I remember seeing the ring. Plus, Baldwin was talking about the role of marriage in the job.

Now that I think about it...another good observation, one I was building on before...is Baldwin's character was talking about marriage as a "good thing to have" in getting ahead in the job. He also didn't really take his job seriously as other than getting a paycheck, because his attitude was like "Fuck the microprocessors...but we still have to solve the case". He represented the dominant element in the police force today, or the current stereotype...that present day police officers are just out for a check and benefits...not really public servants.

This was made obvious when Sullivan said at the beginning to the firefighters "Why don't you go get a cat out of a tree you fuckin homos" lol

Queenan and Dignam were the old "Norman Rockwell" view of the police...public servants, honest, true, etc... Dignam was an asshole, but that was HIS way of keeping people in line and weeding out people. Queenan was talking about his wife is sleeping, that's my son, she made dinner...Dignam wearing his wedding band, etc... you can tell they had REAL family values.

Damn, this is actually fun lol

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128. "yeah, I mentioned this somewhere else in this monster of a post"
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Queenan and um, Baldwin were both technically 'good' guys in a sense, but their views on family/commitment were worlds apart.

Really, there was some serious thematic shit happening in this flick.

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185. "UPDATE!!! I SAW IT for a 2nd TIME!!!"
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When Costello is speaking with Sullivan on the phone, and he says something like "Dignam is so hot for me, he'll get a wiff and crawl up my ass", Costello's girlfriend was reading a book "How to Get Pregnant". God knows Marty didn't MEAN for us to see that 2-3 viewings deep lol

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190. "maybe...I forget. But I didn't know how actively Costello was pursuing"
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baby daddy status






Damn, I'm giving WAY too much thought to that guy's junk!!

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191. "Costello's Sexuality:"
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I'm probably late to the party on this whole convo, but after re-reading the thread, I thought I'd offer a bit of info that might be interesting to y'all.

Specifically referring to Costello's sexuality touched on earlier, apparently, in the test screenings there was a scene where Costello is getting fucked by a strap-on. I can only assume this was during the red cocaine scene towards the end of the flick. Needless to say, it's obvious why it was taken out, but I think it was meant to illustrate just how sick of a fuck he was (duh), and probably tie it a little more to the Whitey Bulger thing. Costello had a pretty much insaitable appetite for the kinks in life. Anyway, thought this was interesting and wanted to share. Feel free to do with it what you wish.

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193. "wow... that would have been a bit much"
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I like that Costello had this sort of perverse undercurrent to his character, but they never explicitly showed him, say, at the business end of a dildo or anything. There were some subtle hints here and there, and I wasn't sure what to make of it.

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194. "Yeah, but I'm GLAD he was fuckin the redhead chick, 'cause..."
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you know people LOVE to throw out the "latant homosexuality" stuff a'la Spongebob lol They made it quite obvious he liked his pussy.

But yes, Whitey Bulger was a sick fuck too...rumors of bisexuality, pedophylia (sp), as well as rape, etc... The guy was just off his rocker.

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196. "Right, Right"
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Apparently, the scene was in every test screening they did, and they refused to take it out untill the very end. In this case, I would agree the "latent homosexuality" thing would be bullshit; I know what you mean about people LOVING to throw that shit out there, I sat through enough media studies in college to know that EVERY CHARACTER EVER has homosexual leanings.

I think, like I stated before, that he was just a sick fuck; or, to put it another way, the man had no boundaries whatsoever in his life. Be it in his profession or his appetites, he just fucking WENT FOR IT. Sometimes that means banging two hot chicks on top of a pile of blow. Sometimes that means pulling the wedding ring off a chopped off hand. Sometimes, and just sometimes, that means getting anally penetrated by a dildo.


>you know people LOVE to throw out the "latant homosexuality"
>stuff a'la Spongebob lol They made it quite obvious he liked
>his pussy.
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>But yes, Whitey Bulger was a sick fuck too...rumors of
>bisexuality, pedophylia (sp), as well as rape, etc... The guy
>was just off his rocker.

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92. "guilty conscience yes, but let's go deeper"
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I think there was a symbolism at work here saying that this particular lifestyle simply would not bear fruit. Costello was living foul, and nothing ever came from it but destruction.

His parallel is Sheen, the other 'father figure' in the movie, who actually has a son of his own. The downside of course being, he doesn't get to get all coked up and take 2 chicks to the Opera.

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103. "Don't forget Queenan and Costello both commanded loyalty"
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No matter how grimy Costello and his crew were, remember Mr. French said something like "I'm loyal! One in 20 million!".

Then, when Sullivan wanted his team to tail Queenan, they weren't having it. They knew Queenan...they knew he wasn't like that.

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111. "yeah, they were both patriarchs"
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With VERY different methods.

But it's just like dude said... in the end, 'what's the difference'

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It was the State House and Damon wanted to get there someday.

  

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160. "golden "church" dome."
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thats no church. that was the massachusetts statehouse. sullivan had bigger ambitions than just being a cop. thats why he was in law school. he probably thought he could be costello's semi legit partner on the political side of things. it also kind of made me think of whitey bulger's brother... being the mass senate pres and all...

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134. "dude...it's Infernal remake not Internal"
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not Internal affairs
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28. "How to ruin a film in the last 20 minutes. by Martin Scorsese"
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Worst ending ever.

  

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I was shocked. Shocked at how fast this film plumeted into crap.

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i was laughing the whole time, i think the whole theater hated me, but once anthony anderson showed up, i just couldnt stop laughing.

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29. "Was that the original ending? ****SPOILERS****"
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Has anyone read the script?







Because I was sure it was over when DiCaprio died. End it at Vera walking past Matt Damon and I would have been content.

I couldn't help but feel like the Warner execs or even worse, some fag test screening audience, said "well, we want Matt Damon to die!" so they did all that nonsense.

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30. "Well ****SPOILERS****"
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>I couldn't help but feel like the Warner execs or even worse,
>some fag test screening audience, said "well, we want Matt
>Damon to die!" so they did all that nonsense.

But I could also hear Martin saying that they wanted to "bring everything full circle"/"close the tragic circle" or something like that.

Along those lines, I think MANHOODLUM (was it?) was on point when he said it was poetic justice that Dignam was the last one standing, seeing as he's the only good cop left.

I'm going to try to go to a screening tomorrow with a Q & A with the writer afterward. If I go, I'll ask him.
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33. "Right, Dignam was going to be a cop regardless of a badge"
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The way he jumped on Costigan at the beginning, saying he's going to be who he is no matter what, so why should they make him a detective?? He's like "It's our job to see who WANTS to be a cop, and who's PRETENDING to be a cop".

Baldwin was a good COP, but he had a weird air about him....like your a cop, but your human too. He was always like "Yeah, we have to do our job...microprocessors, who gives a fuck? We gotta get them though". All the cops there seemed to be stereotypical cops...meaning that they were just there to do A JOB.

Queenan and Dignam wre cops in the classic sense...meaning they were there to be public servants, to do good...they were basically boy scouts. Remember when they were proposing the undercover work to Costigan, Dignam was like "You want to serve the public, here's your chance".

Dignam quit, but at the end, he killed Sullivan. I don't think alot of people realize the full scope of things. They see it as some sort of surprise/twist ending, or a cop-out. I thought it was the furthest thing from a cop-out, and I'm not even a "movie nerd" like that...I don't analyze shit like that.

Dignam quit because Eberly said Dignam was under him when Queenan died...Dignam wasn't having it. He left.

Dignam killed Sullivan because it was his job...

no as a badged police officer, but it was his job...his sense of duty. Dignam was going to be a cop, 'cause that was HIS nature...he can't change that...just like the beginning when he was telling Costigan why he would never be a detective.

Once Queenan died, Dignam took responsibility of the situation, because he was pretty much the one, honest, good guy left in the movie.

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36. ""Dignam" = Dignity?"
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Kinda corny, but yeah.

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34. "I would hit someone if they ended the movie on those notes"
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Not because they're down notes, because those were the two types of endings people want to see when they claim they hate that "maintstream-style" ending.

If the movie ended when Leo, Anderson, and the other goon was shot, and Damon escaped clean...I couldn't walked out thinking "Ok, the movie was good, but that was kinda lame". I wouldn't of liked it.

Ending with her walking by him..."What about the baby?". Hell no lol What would THAT do? "Wow, now he can't be a father...it just goes to show..." lol Nah.

I seriously think people need to sit on this ending and wait till it absorbs a little.

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31. "I loved it!"
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I loved the scenery, the dialect, the wit, haven't seen a movie that good in a while.

I'm not even a blood and gore person but the way it played out was very artistic, beautiful even.
Also I used to live in Boston so it struck a note with me in that regard too.
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35. "GREAT movie... ending left me with mixed emotions...*spoilers*"
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since it was dignam who offed sulivan.... that much i rather enjoyed.

i had problems with logic, and maybe i missed some things

but:
when he got a hold of the tapes, why not make copies and turn them in?
or get a hold of dignum and pass the info to him?

imo i would prefer to have seen will live; i can deal with him gettin murked out though, i suppose im just not satisfied with how it went down... the little twist that followed was cool, but not shocking enough to warrant a completely unmemorable character being the guy to off will...

i would have preffered a different route alltogether, thugh they ould have had to find a different way to let psych lady know (forget her name) the truth about colin

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37. "The only REAL twist to me was...(SPOILER)*"
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the guy that wanted to be Colin's buddy throughout the whole movie...the reason he wanted to "stick together" w/ Colin was because HE was down w/ Costello too. LOL Even Sullivan looked at him like "Huh? Oh...shit" lol

I think everyone expected Will to go, tho...even tho they didn't want him too. It was in the back of our heads. He had no one, he was taking 3 oxycotins at a time with scotch. The guy was a damn mess. It was surprising as hell when he got capped.

First, he got capped...then Anderson got capped by Costello's OTHER guy...so we're all gasping, like WTF??, then SULLIVAN up and caps the OTHER Costello guy. We're all laughing like "Shit!! WTF??". I even said out loud "It's raining men!!", and everyone erupted w/ laughter (like 12 people). lol

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149. "also: *spoilers*"
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what was in the envelope he gave Madolyn? I guess it was some kind of evidence or something, but they never revealed what it was.

also, the SIU is digging into all their agents' personal records and finances to find out who the mole is, but nobody notices that Sullivan, a poor kid from the Southie projects, moved into a big, stylish penthouse apartment straight out of the academy?


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242. "I'm pretty sure.... **spoilers**"
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Inside the envelope was info for the psychiatrist to give to Dingam since he capped Damon in her apartment..

  

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250. "Evidence of the taped Costello/Sullivan conversations"
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He made copies and told her to only open them if she had not heard from him in 2wks or if he called and told her to do so.

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38. "Something ELSE that was of interest (minus my Dignam thing lol)"
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::::::SPOILER:::::::::::::

Was that at the end, Sullivan was even more gully than Costello. They made Costello to be this mindless, ruthless monster, but when confronted by Sullivan....Costello was like "I'd never give you up! Your like a son to me!", but Sullivan capped HIM anyway just to cover his tracks. I thought it was interesting that at the very end, Costello showed at least a little loyalty, and Sullivan, who was supposed to "loyal" to Costello, due to his childhood rearing, is the one that shut him up.

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204. "RE: Something ELSE that was of interest (minus my Dignam thing lol)"
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>::::::SPOILER:::::::::::::
>
>Was that at the end, Sullivan was even more gully than
>Costello. They made Costello to be this mindless, ruthless
>monster, but when confronted by Sullivan....Costello was like
>"I'd never give you up! Your like a son to me!", but Sullivan
>capped HIM anyway just to cover his tracks. I thought it was
>interesting that at the very end, Costello showed at least a
>little loyalty, and Sullivan, who was supposed to "loyal" to
>Costello, due to his childhood rearing, is the one that shut
>him up.
>
>
Costello was lying, didn't you get that?

He was giving people to the FBI and then tried to lie to Matt Damon to save his own life. Witness him trying to shoot Matt Damon 2 seconds after he said the line. And the tapes he was making.

If you were in the movie you would have gotten capped.

  

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39. "absolutely loved it... great acting but marky mark stole the show imo"
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wanna see it a 2nd time 2 see what details i might have missed

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lol

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40. "I loved this movie"
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but I need to watch it again because I was high.
It could've used some titties too.

  

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51. "Scorsese said from now on he's against nudity"
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he said it takes the viewers attention away from the true meaning

  

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41. "Long time Scorcese fan. Just saw it."
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let me preface this by saying that I havent posted on Pass the Popcorn much since the time when I got on here last year saying that Goodfellas was the most copied movie in the past 20 years, and 95% of the people came out bitching & disagreeing (all in favor of that Pulp Fiction crap).

Anyway ... I went to the departed with a bias against it. i see pretty much all scorcese movies opening weekend, and havent liked them in a long while. i thought the lineup of dicaprio/damon/nicholson/markymark was "too hollywood" to make a good movie in the tradition of scorcese's great ones. (Also, I was not a big fan of "Infernal Affairs".)

That said, I was fucking riveted! At one point I had to use the bathroom really badly and I almost ran back to the theater. It was embarrassing. I didn't see the end coming. When the movie was over I couldnt remember for a second what day of the week it was. I can't say this was one of Scorcese's best, but the dude sure as fuck is back to making good gun & blood movies for the first time in 10+ years.

Last observation: i'm not much of a matt damon fan, but he was as good here as he was in talented mr ripley. his characters in these two movies arent that far off from each other.

  

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57. "your not alone lol I took off work for 'digestive problems'"
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I kinda had a mild stomache virus, so I took off work. Coincedentally, the movie opened up that day, which it how I got into the 12:30 matinee. I was sick enough to want to leave, but not sick enough to go home and lay on the couch all day, so I caught the flick. There were a few times my stomache was bubbling lol but I held on.

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42. "I loved it"
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Great performances all around. Jack was perfect for this. And Whalberg's best performance since Boogie Nights. Stylistically, It couldn't have been more on point. This is the Marty I've grown to love.

I can think of 20 things to complain and nitpick about, but in the end I don't care. love interest, twists, cell phones, ending be damned. i loved every single minute of it. For my money, this is as good as a crime thriller can get.

  

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44. "first half of the film was amazing"
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second half i wasn't quite so impressed by, probably because it was sticking mainly to what happened in Infernal Affairs, which i've seen, so maybe for someone who aint seen the original, the 2nd half of the movie is just a well executed closure of the plot

at first i thought it was going to be better than Infernal Affairs, but IMO the original is ultimately better because it's shorter, more taught, and wraps up a bit more philosophically. the violence i think was a bit gratuitous, even downright silly at times. there was such a strange blend of comedy in it... like dingham in the appartment at the end with those medical hats wrapped round his shoes... lol. was that intentionally hilarious? also i think Inf Aff qualified certain plot details a bit better (although The Departed managed to clean up a few plot weaknesses too i think). the acting, well no complaint really, i think DiCaprio was the weakest link... i mean he can't speak angrily without his voice breaking and the only move he has is that permanent scowl on his face. on the other hand, Matt Damon's character, you couuld see the guilt in his face more than the original, although that maybe because i'm used to western acting/faces. a bit i liked was when matt damon was buying his flat, and the look he gives the estate agent... 'you think i'm some sort of nice guy?'

i think the original ending was better (in the lift), but i suppose Dingham coming back does vent a frustration that the audience has no doubt been feeling for the entire the film - 'why doesn't someone just cap these bastards!' and it tied up with the 'what difference does it make' speech at the start

anyway highly recommended

p.s. a nitpick... are there scottish people in boston? cause one of those accents was scottish and one of those ringtones was Scotland the Brave, although possibly the accent was northern irish (can be similar to scots) and Scotland the Brave's melody is used for other songs in other cultures

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46. "you sir are obviously not a hit man"
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>like dingham in the appartment at the end
>with those medical hats wrapped round his shoes... lol. was
>that intentionally hilarious?

that's some mob shit actually. and dingham being who he was, knew how to keep all traces of him away from the crime scene, because he knows how heavily it will be investigated.

>p.s. a nitpick... are there scottish people in boston? cause
>one of those accents was scottish and one of those ringtones
>was Scotland the Brave, although possibly the accent was
>northern irish (can be similar to scots) and Scotland the
>Brave's melody is used for other songs in other cultures

yeah that was the scottish guy from Made. I'm guessing they were banking on americans not being able to differentiate irish/scottish. but I could be wrong.

  

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48. "yeah i know why he did it but it just looked fucking hilarious"
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they didn't need to show that... i mean the audience wouldn't mind if he just shot him with a silencer and sneaked away

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49. "i actually liked the touch"
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since they showed his feet before anything else, you know the deal before you know who it is. not that it was a big surprise, but i dug it.

  

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192. "He was also the Irish guy from Braveheart"
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David O'Hara played Steven in Braveheart...I woke up this morning after seeing it, thinking...holy shit, that was Steven!

It annoyed the piss out of me that I didn't make that connection immediately.

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He was also the guy in Sexy Beast.

  

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208. "Yes! I knew he looked familiar."
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>He was also the guy in Sexy Beast.


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219. "Okay, so I recognized him from Made, then. lol"
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>Ray Winstone - Sexy Beast
>David O'Hara - Red Dragon in Made
>
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205. "RE: you sir are obviously not a hit man"
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>>like dingham in the appartment at the end
>>with those medical hats wrapped round his shoes... lol. was
>>that intentionally hilarious?
>
>that's some mob shit actually. and dingham being who he was,
>knew how to keep all traces of him away from the crime scene,
>because he knows how heavily it will be investigated.

What, that was funny to you? He was wearing protective clothes and a brand spanking new jump suit so he could throw it all away and not get caught with trace evidence.

He should have been wearing the cap when Matt Damon came in, but I bet some people would not been able to identify him because he'd been off the screen for 20 minutes and never wore a hat before.

  

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218. "RE: you sir are obviously not a hit man"
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>>>like dingham in the appartment at the end
>>>with those medical hats wrapped round his shoes... lol. was
>>>that intentionally hilarious?
>>
>>that's some mob shit actually. and dingham being who he was,
>>knew how to keep all traces of him away from the crime
>scene,
>>because he knows how heavily it will be investigated.
>
>What, that was funny to you? He was wearing protective clothes
>and a brand spanking new jump suit so he could throw it all
>away and not get caught with trace evidence.
>
>He should have been wearing the cap when Matt Damon came in,
>but I bet some people would not been able to identify him
>because he'd been off the screen for 20 minutes and never wore
>a hat before.

But should've 2 cover up that silly bowl cut

  

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86. "Those weren't surgical hats."
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They're sterile booties for the surgical staff to wear over their shoes.

like dingham in the appartment at the end
>with those medical hats wrapped round his shoes...



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243. "lol at "sterile booties""
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i dont know why, but that term is really funny to me.

im going to use that to refer to girls, but im not sure in what context.

pretend to be cats don't seem to know they limitations
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50. "I fucking loved it"
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ending too.

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52. "pretty great"
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i will agree that the love triangle was pretty awkward and unnecesary, but not in such a way that it really messed everything up. Nicholson, Baldwin, Wahlberg, just such great fucking characters with such great fucking lines executed perfectly. Everyone else was really good too.

I had a pretty savage little odessy trynna go catch this movie tonight, it definitely paid off

i also like how the cops were just as down to scrape fools as the 'criminals': when it came down to it they were all just grimey irish dudes ready to throw a punch whenever.

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53. "Dammit, I need to get to the theatre and see this"
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58. "Blow off school and work!! Fuck THEM!! Get your priorities STRAIT!!!"
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lol

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54. "Slightly Overhyped"
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1. Very Good, but folks shouldn't compare it to Goodfellas.
2. I can't see the Wahlberg love he is getting here. He had great lines (a feat of the writer not marky), but his performance was too over the top TV Cop for me.
3. I think Leo and Matt were great. Slight edge to Matt because his character was more complicated.
4. I am sorry but Jack playing a psychopath can be entertaining and good, but after a while it becomes kinda routine. Bill the Butcher is my alltime favorite Scorcese Baddie.
5. The ending was great. I think a lot of people are complaining because its not how they wanted it to en but I loved it for its unexpectedness. Last shot was cheesy though.
6. What happened to the package Leo gave the chick before he went away????
7. I hate to be the sourpuss but I think Marty gets a slight hard on from talking about "niggers". I know its appropiate talk for the characters but its use in the opening scene were just superfulous (sp). I did like the black man in Boston comment.
8. ALex Baldwin and Martin Sheen were great. Both conveyed subtlely there weakness in performing their job. Alex was too arrogant. Sheen too much of a nice guy.

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60. "About the 'niggaz' (how Nicholson said it)"
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A note I thought was kinda funny. This black lady in her 30's sat a few seats down from me to watch it. I guess she was a fan 'cause she looked like she knocked off work too.

Anyone, in the intro, where it should scenes from the Boston riots, and Nicholson was talking about "the niggaz", the girl near me started laughing, as if she was thinking "Jesus, they didn't waste any time did they?" lol

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64. "about the package"
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i want someone to respond, cuz i got no fuckin clue, but im pretty sure they didn't wrap up that plot point

not really a plot hole, but still disappointing

anyways, i loved the movie, though i thought (as with any movie set in bostons) the accents were a bit overdone

  

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65. "RE: about the package *****spoilers****"
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k, what i gathered from the package not being addressed was that it told her everything that went down and to contact dignam. cause, how else did he know? it might have also included money, and shit, but i dont think that's important.

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73. "RE: about the package *****spoilers****"
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>k, what i gathered from the package not being addressed was
>that it told her everything that went down and to contact
>dignam. cause, how else did he know? it might have also
>included money, and shit, but i dont think that's important.


thats what i concluded too, but it wouldve been nice if they included a little scene with her picking up a phone and asking for Dignam or something so you kinda knew

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77. "Maybe she DID do that...Dignam DID show up at the apartment"
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Now that I think about it. Dignam was gung-ho, but he wouldn't of pursued Sullivan w/out KNOWING something for certain.

He had to show up there ready to cap'em for some reason.

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85. "puts a different spin on why she can't look at him at the funeral"
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like a jury never looks a convicted murderer in the eye...

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93. "yeah, she HAD to have contacted Dingam"
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Although until now I hadn't considered how that might have affected their run-in at the funeral. Not that she didn't already have 6 million reasons to act that way towards him.

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266. "You guys honestly don't think Dignan put 2 and 2 together?"
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Costello's dead. Operation's over. Where's William? Dead. Why? Obviously he found the department rat and was going to leak. Since Dignan was MIA and William had no way of contacting him William goes to the guy now in charge of the operation. Who is that? Sullivan. Oh wait, William is dead? Who killed him? Sullivan. It's quite possible that in searching the house he found the envelope that spelled out Sullivan's guilt but I don't think he needed an anonymous call to peg Sullivan for the rat. He knew everyone involved and there was only one person in the end that could have had the kind of access that would have gotten both Queenan and William killed.

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... it is an explanation as to why the package was never addressed again. At least it is for me. lol






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289. "it was written that way to make dignam at the end"
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even more surprising

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66. "Best use of Dropkick Murphy's ever **Spoilers**"
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oh i went nuts when they came on in the opening credits, and then again for the third act.


oh i loved this flick so much.

spoilers....


Wahlberg impressed me so much, and i didnt realize it until he showed up again at the end. i kinda forgot about him for a minute. im glad Marty reminded me he was around.

Martin Sheen was fantastic.

Damon was as good as he's ever been

Dicaprio is definately one of my favouritesin films today. i never thought id say that in the Growing Pains days.

I watched One Flew Over.... directly before, and im so glad i did. it really made me realize the presence Nicholson still possesses 30+ years after the fact. he was amazing. that one scene in the bar when he comes out with his sleeves rolled up and all the blood on his shirt, face, arms, and hands, really reminded me of Bill the Butcher.

so ummm, can we talk about the last shot of the film for a second. what was the gold dome representing? and btw, i liked the little touch of having the "rat" on the balcony ledge.


amazing movie. great return to Marty's true calling in the arts. and im not talking about his cameo in "the Muse"

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67. "I agree on how well they used the Dropkick Murphy's track"
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it was perfectly placed into the movie.

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171. "that shit made me wanna down some pints of Guinness & get in a bar fight"
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68. "RE: The official THE DEPARTED post."
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I thought the gold dome view was Damons way of attempting absolution for being who he was.

The ending shot while cheesy in front of the dome showed that it didn't matter how much Damon moved on up. He was still whom he was. There are rats even in church.

Finally somebody used The Stones' 'Let It Loose' in a movie (of course it would be Scorsese').

  

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75. "I said it above too"
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but that is the State House where Damon wanted to get to eventually. I think someone even called him Senator one time while he was staring at it.

I guess to someone outside of Boston it did look like a church though and they should have explained it better.


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78. "Damn didn't want any redemtion...at least out in the open"
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which is why I saw that dome, and his impotency kinda made sense. He was a scumbag, and it seemed like he had no guilty conscience about it, but these subtle things made it seem like he had guilt buried deep.

Plus, he wanted that apartment immaculate. He also got an apartment big enough for 2 people, which means he was EXPECTING to meet someone and eventually move them in. He was preparing for everything like 4 steps ahead. Weird.

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69. "Thanks Marty."
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I loved every second. Yeah, even the ending. That's all I got to say. Go get your Oscar, even though they won't give it to you.

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70. "SPOILER (well slightly, more of an insignificant scene discussion)"
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can we take a second please to appreciate leo going off on that guy with the bar glass to the forehead. completely caught me off guard. then again with leo to the two thugs in the restaurant.

my goodness the violence.

i have to say leonardo dicaprio has slowly become one of the few actors i trust fully with his film selections. the man along with clooney, pitt, and to a less extent damon, is really the future and present of this generations golden boys.

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71. "While I thought he was quite good in The Aviator..."
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He's got me as a believer now. He owned this role. Marky Mark stole the show a bunch of times, and Jack was Jack...but damn. DiCaprio acted his ass off here.

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79. "'What'chu gonna do? Run home to your MOMMA?!'"
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Word to Denzel's bar scene in X

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267. "Let's re-think this statement..."
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>i have to say leonardo dicaprio has slowly become one of the
>few actors i trust fully with his film selections. the man
>along with clooney, pitt, and to a less extent damon, is
>really the future and present of this generations golden
>boys.

DiCaprio has pretty much done Scorsese pics and Blood Diamond.
Clooney = fine.
Pitt = Continues to make suspect choices - Mr. and Mrs. Smith + The Mexican being at the top of that list.
Damon seems to be the smartest in terms of his choices. This guy impresses me on screen and off.

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72. "9.5/10"
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This was an excellent film, I honestly didn't realise Leonardo was such a good actor. Matt Damon done such a good job of making everyone hate him, and Mark Wahlberg was a one man quote machine lol.

The story was extremely well paced, the tension bubbled throughout the whole movie.

I saw Hoodwinked on saturday as well...

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80. "*MAJOR SPOILERS* This movie turned to ass when..."
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...the elevator sequence happened. When DiCaprio got shot, I did not expect that and thought it was a good turn. But when the dude turned out to be on the inside and EVERYONE started to get shot I stopped giving a fuck about the film.

If they had just cut to the funeral after DiCaprio was killed and let Damon get away with it, the film could have ended on a tragic but interesting note. The other guy on the inside should have just been andother cop who shot DiCaprio because he saw him taking Damon as a hostage. But watching "justice" done was just boring.

Why was Anthony Anderson even in the film? I thought he did a good job, better than his performance in The Shield, but his character was completely unnecessary.

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82. "Anthony Anderson...."
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was just a stooge in the film, which was his main place.

Remember when him and DiCaprio were jogging at the beginning, DiCaprio said he was fucked already, as a joke.

When Costello died, Costigan was sitting in the police office, since Dignam and Queenan were the only ones who knew he was undercover. Anderson knew him from the accademy, so he could vouge for him. Remember he said in the office to Sullivan, "Yeah, I knew him in the accademy".

When Costigan took Sullivan hostage, Anderson was trying to do the right thing, but he didn't know what the right thing was. He was insecure about his decision to keep the gun on Costigan, but he did make his decision. Remember, he was also on Sullivan's team, so he kinda had a loyalty to both.

Anderson's place in that movie was that he was just an expendable pawn, which is what he was supposed to be. If you notice how Anderson always kind've popped up in the middle of situations throughout the movie (being in training with Costigan, ending up on Sullivan;s team, and confroting them both during a hostage situation), and how Costigan told him he was fucked, jokingly, at the beginning, I think Anderson's part was slipped in there nicely.

Out of all the coincedences in the movie that involved that guy in the plot...he was just another dead body @ the end.

I thought the fact that the other guy was a Costello mole too was a twist, but I don't see it as corny. They really didn't harp on it, or dwell on it. He was just like "Yeah, we need to stick together, you think your the only one??", and Sullivan popped him. He really had no backstory or anything. It was almost like a cute little factoid.

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83. "Yep (SPOILER)"
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>When Costigan took Sullivan hostage, Anderson was trying to do
>the right thing, but he didn't know what the right thing was.
>He was insecure about his decision to keep the gun on
>Costigan, but he did make his decision. Remember, he was also
>on Sullivan's team, so he kinda had a loyalty to both.

Exactly. He got capped, not because it was important to the "dumb/corny" ending, but because he didn't "man up" and make a decision up on the roof. In essence, this also made him a "bad" cop.


>I thought the fact that the other guy was a Costello mole too
>was a twist, but I don't see it as corny. They really didn't
>harp on it, or dwell on it. He was just like "Yeah, we need
>to stick together, you think your the only one??", and
>Sullivan popped him. He really had no backstory or anything.
>It was almost like a cute little factoid.

And he got capped for being, in essence, a poser.
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104. "Are you serious?"
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He didn't have all the facts, there's no way Anderson's character could have "manned up" and made a decision because he didn't know who to trust as hoodlum pointed out. He would have been a dick, to the audience at least, if he chose Damon but I think he made the right decision to wait it out. Why he took the stairs and not the elevator, I don't understand.

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117. "i concur"
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he got capped because another mole who no one knew about turned up with a gun
not as some lesson about decision making

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118. "I'll laugh when Marty contradicts you both on the DVD commentary"
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Better yet, I'll post the audio on the boards.

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145. "animal WRANGLER...you should no better. Besides, shit's been made (link..."
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157. "^^^doesn't get me and never will^^^ *sniffle* n/m"
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108. "I thought Anderson..."
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...was going to be DiCaprio's saving grace and it would have added to the tragedy if Anderson had lived. We he learned more about the case later, he could have been the one that helped bring Damon down because he's the only one, accept Sheen I guess, who actually "believed" in DiCaprio. He's also the only cop we see DiCaprio have a positive interaction with. So, until he got shot, Anderson was an important nobody so to speak; important to the plot without really being mixed up in it and important to the theme because he would have brought things full circle. If Anderson had been the solution, then having the film end with justice being served wouldn't have been corny; maybe expected but not contrived.

But, once Anderson was killed, his character lost all relevance to the plot.

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126. "Anderson was kinda of used to get our hopes up for a minute"
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Think about it, 'cause Anderson was saying "Yeah, that's him in your office...I went with him to the accademy".

Then when Costigan took Sullivan hostage, Costigan was like "YOU KNOW ME!! YOU KNOW ME!!". Anderson WAS the saving grace...he was the missing link Costigan needed to legitimize him. We thought "Ok, there's some static because Anderson got his gun drawn...let's see how this pans out"...then BOOM!!! Costigans dead! BOOM!! Anderson's dead!!! lol Everyone in the theatre was like "OH...WT...FUCK!" lol No one was ready.

When Anderson had his gun drawn, we thought Costigan was going to be ok, and Anderson was going to be a hero somewhat. 3 seconds later, they were both corpses lol It was like a middle finger to the happy ending.

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88. "gonna agree and then disagree here..."
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>...the elevator sequence happened. When DiCaprio got shot, I
>did not expect that and thought it was a good turn. But when
>the dude turned out to be on the inside and EVERYONE started
>to get shot I stopped giving a fuck about the film.

Once those bodies started piling up in front of the elevator, it got a little silly. In fact, everybody in the theater was cracking up at that point. But, you know, so much of that movie was over the top and comical already, so it didn't bother me too much.

>If they had just cut to the funeral after DiCaprio was killed
>and let Damon get away with it, the film could have ended on a
>tragic but interesting note.

Fuck that! I was PISSED when DiCaprio died! (A far cry from Titanic, when I cheered his death) Damon HAD to die. It's just basic symmetry.


>The other guy on the inside
>should have just been andother cop who shot DiCaprio because
>he saw him taking Damon as a hostage. But watching "justice"
>done was just boring.

I don't think it was just about "justice". I didn't really see the movie in those terms. There's a danger to being untrue to oneself. Damon couldn't just live his life out faking the funk like that. He had to be dealt with.

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110. "See 108 and tell me what you think of that n/m"
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115. "yeah, I'm still not sure what to make of Anderson's character"
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I'm really gonna have to watch it a couple more times to get a handle on all the players.

It seemed like most everybody had some sort of parallel character on the other side of the law. I'm sure Anderson had one, I just can't figure out who it would be. That might be key to figuring out what he was put there for.

But if Anderson HAD brought Damon down, that still leaves the Marky Mark story thread a'danglin'. You knew Dingam had to show up at some point. And as many have pointed out, Dingam was putting on a tough guy act, but still believed in and cared for William on some level or another.

EDIT: And regarding Dingam... well, I think its significant that it was him who finally ended the cycle of violence. He had quit the force, sort of taking himself out of the game. Now, the fascinating thing to me about this flick is how it blurred the lines between police and thieves (that whole "what's the difference" line), but seemed very stark in its contrast of good and evil.

With that in mind, it almost HAD to be someone from the outside to put an end to things. He wasn't a cop or a gangster.

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87. "I liked it a lot, but..."
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I'm sorry guys, but that last scene didn't work for me. I thought it seemed out of place and Tarantino-esque. (And the rat was corny as hell...the symbolism was too heavy-handed.) It probably didn't help that most of the audience laughed at it.

I don't know, maybe if I hadn't seen Infernal Affairs, I would've been cool with the ending (though I still would've thought the rat was lame).

Those of you who've seen IA: Did the alternate version end like that (minus the rat)? I've gotta go back and check that out.

Other than that complaint, I thought it was great. The ending wasn't enough for me to not think Marty is deserving of an Oscar nod for best director and best picture. The acting by Leo, Matt and Mark was top-notch, too. Jack Nicholson was a little cartoonish at times, but I guess that's to be expected. Alec Baldwin was great, for the little time we saw him. I wish DeNiro had been able to play Queenan, but Martin Sheen was fine. I thought the part where one of Costello's guys (can't remember his name) told Billy to go to 314 Wash instead of 344 was clever.

I'll probably go see it again before it leaves theaters. Maybe I'll walk out before the last scene, though. j/k ;-)



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89. "that shot got laughs in my theater too"
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>I'm sorry guys, but that last scene didn't work for me. I
>thought it seemed out of place and Tarantino-esque. (And the
>rat was corny as hell...the symbolism was too heavy-handed.)
>It probably didn't help that most of the audience laughed at
>it.

But you know, there was such a giddiness to the whole movie, so I'm giving that silly stuff a pass. That last shot I interpreted as more of a comical wink, wink nudge nudge moment, not heavy handed symbolism. The movie was capable of touching on the subtler, more philosophical aspects of morality and identity, but it knew how to have fun, too. It didn't take itself too seriously, to use a tired cliche.

I dunno, I just felt this over the top sense of joy from the whole thing. Everytime someone dropped a body or an F-bomb, the crowd just exploded with this 'Fuck yeah!' vibe. Maybe we're just happy that Marty did another gangster film. I dunno.

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90. "this is exactly how I took it also"
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>That last shot I
>interpreted as more of a comical wink, wink nudge nudge
>moment, not heavy handed symbolism.

  

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94. "yep"
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the shot of the legislature is funny enough on its own but the rat is the icing on the cake.
The scene does start with the joke with the snooty womans dog too.

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95. "Throughly enjoyed the fuck out of this"
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After Gangs of New York and The Avaitor ii's nice to see a hardcore Martin Scorsese film again. With that said who the fuck thought that Marty would use a rap song in his movie. Nas' Thief's Theme is great song but he should chose something else.

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97. "lol I forgot all about this"
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>The scene does start with the joke with the snooty womans dog
>too.

  

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99. "*sigh* That went over my head."
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Unless the dog represented Madelyn blowing by Colin at the funeral, I don't get the joke.

>The scene does start with the joke with the snooty womans dog
>too.


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206. "RE: *sigh* That went over my head."
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>Unless the dog represented Madelyn blowing by Colin at the
>funeral, I don't get the joke.
>
>>The scene does start with the joke with the snooty womans
>dog
>>too.

That was called "Comic Relief." it releases tension 9from the shootings and the funeral) , let's up loosen up and then we get hit by Marky marky again. Without that we'd have been way too wound up.

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209. "it would have been funnier of 'U Aint Nothing But A Hound-dog' was"
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playing in the background
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213. "Dude, I'm familiar with what comic relief is."
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Let's not get patronizing, mkay?

I got that the dog snub was supposed to be funny. I laughed when I saw it. But then I came in here and got the impression from DrNO's comments (and maybe someone else's) that there was supposedly more to the joke than that. That's why I was asking if something went over my head.


>Don't people know how moves are set up?? (No diss to the
>poster, but this is just basic.)


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96. "Eh, maybe so. n/m"
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124. "same here"
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especially with how much comedy there was throughout the movie, I definitely saw it as a wink nudge moment.

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129. "for real, this movie was a laugh riot"
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98. "I was too incredulous to laugh."
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I wasn't expecting that at all.

>interpreted as more of a comical wink, wink nudge nudge
>moment, not heavy handed symbolism.

Could be, but I still think it was out of place. I don't know, maybe I'll think differently when I see it again. *shrug*

It
>didn't take itself too seriously, to use a tired cliche.

Yeah, maybe *I'm* taking it too seriously. lol


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102. "."
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>I wasn't expecting that at all.
>
>>interpreted as more of a comical wink, wink nudge nudge
>>moment, not heavy handed symbolism.
>
>Could be, but I still think it was out of place. I don't know,
>maybe I'll think differently when I see it again. *shrug*
>
> It
>>didn't take itself too seriously, to use a tired cliche.
>
>Yeah, maybe *I'm* taking it too seriously. lol
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106. "What? n/m"
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105. "Am I the only one who figured Dignam PUT that rat there"
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I don't think that was a coincidence (sp). That rat was in the privacy room too. Dignam put it there.

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112. "*SPOILER*"
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Their called animal wranglers. Interesting note, if you have a ton of baby's on set, I guess for like a diaper commercial or something, there's a baby wrangler. Seriously, not making this up.

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131. "Naw dude, the big ones. Babies are stronger than they look..."
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These baby wranglers are no joke, most of them are ex-cons, discharged from the military or ex-A-Team.

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119. "was it a rat or a mole?"
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di caprio was a 'rat'
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That was impeccable lol

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lol

It's all in how quick your brain gets the info.

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146. "but you use the word "fart" in a post title..."
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114. "RE: I liked it a lot, but..."
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to Kurlyswurl, in IA, the mole is there but Anthony Anderson's character isn't. Plus, Tony Leung is still holding the gun to Andy Lau's head when the mole shoots him.They have a stand of in the elevator instead of on the roof. At least i think that is how it ended in 'infernal affairs'

  

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116. "Yeah, that's the original ending you're describing."
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I just watched it again on Saturday, so I remember all that. I was asking about the alternate ending. Thanks, though.


>to Kurlyswurl, in IA, the mole is there but Anthony
>Anderson's character isn't. Plus, Tony Leung is still holding
>the gun to Andy Lau's head when the mole shoots him.They have
>a stand of in the elevator instead of on the roof. At least i
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135. "I agree with most of it"
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seeing the original takes away a little bit because I figured same things would occur. I probably liked the 1st half better.

the rat at the end was for shit & giggles. It would have been great if they ended it with Damon's girl just walking away from him at the funeral. It seems like Marty was on some ahh fuck it.

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113. "*applauds and hoots* You've been riding this post all day n/m"
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122. "you don't smoke? what are you one of them health nuts?"
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seriously though, fuck you.


loved every second of it...i've got nothing to add to what has already been said.

  

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123. "LOL 'My sister drinks cranberry juice when she's on her period'"
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"Are you on your period?"


LOL

I love when Leo pours his soul into what he's saying in the job interview, and Dignam sits up and does a fake fart in his face. I was like "Oh...LOL"

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130. "9.9 out 10"
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They lost .10 with unnecassary use of the word nigger. It just seemed out place, since it was only one black person with dialogue in the whole movie. Listening to the opening dialogue I thought they were going to be fighting black people throughout the movie.

  

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140. "These are Irish guys in Boston...the should used the N-word more"
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lol

If you want to be realistic.

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148. "Roommate"
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was white and from Boston, she or her family never said nigger.So it is not realistic for white people from Boston to use nigger in their speech. Went to college with a whole bunch of Irish Catholics from Boston and never heard that shit.


  

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151. "come on, this isn't a movie about white college grads"
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lol

  

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154. "Southie is/was racist as hell"
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I have an uncle on my dad's side for Dorchester...he's not like that. There's alot of Black people in Dorchester too, so I don't know if it's more latant due to the co-existence factor.

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177. "it's like the Sopranos"
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everytime they fuck up they bust out the word and pass the blame, even when they barely ever come into contact with black people.
Remember, these guys are un-educated thugs.

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133. "A+ movie on all accounts"
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136. "the 3 leads were great but wahlberg and baldwin OWNED THAT SHIT."
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alec baldwin is the official "murder you on your own shit" cameo king

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137. "he's usually a pretty nice guy, please dont make a determination"
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of him from this one meeting.
classic



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141. "Baldwin MERKED 'Along Came Polly' too lol."
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Stiller was going to marry the girl, and Baldwin was hyping her up like she was the best thing.

When she cheated on him, and Stiller was moping around, Baldwin said "She's a dime store hooker, and always will be" LOL

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142. "saw this last night...it was kinda silly to me"
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now take into account i saw Infernal Affairs 1 & 2 a few years ago, but haven't seen them recently.

The tone of the departed just seemed kinda silly or campy. Jack Nicholson started buggin out, Matt Damon's character wasn't very interesting or human, DiCaprio did okay...it just seemed like a louder, lewder, more violent version of a very thoughtful flick.

Now if I hadn't seen the original, would I be a lil more hyped? Prolly...but i done seen the original, so it is what it is.

The original did a better job of making all the characters more human, and relatable. Even the crime boss in the original had his moments of being a real person; Nicholson's dude was just a one-note archetype, like everybody else in the film.

It was funny as shit, tho.

  

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150. "i agree it was messy, frivalous, unrefined..."
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and not as good as Infernal Affairs, a much tighter film

but it was still good, especially the first half. there was a lot of new material there like the psychiatry appointments (i know it was in the original but this scene was quite different), dingham bustin' everyone's balls, some of the flashbacks and monologues. when it actually settled down into just copying Infernal Affairs, it wasn't so good

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153. "I think I treated it like Punch-Drunk Love"
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No, I'm not saying there's any comparison between the two.

What I mean is, the first time I saw PDL I *hated* it. But after reading some comments about it, I saw that maybe I was taking it too seriously. So, the next time I watched it, I had the mindset that it was a quirky, dark comedy. After that, I liked it.

So, next time I see The Departed, I'll look at it more as a comedy. That's not to say that I didn't laugh quite often the first time, just that I'll try not to take some of the other scenes so seriously. I dunno, maybe I was expecting it to be more dramatic because IA was.



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155. "yeah, see, i don't think i expected it to be as silly as it was"
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some parts of the film was just out and out goofy...but i don't know if it was intentionally so, or if it seemed that way because i'd seen the original, and the original played it totally str8.

AND, the Departed seemed, for lack of a better word, kinda cluttered and clunky. Now, I'm certain that's because IA was so damn sleek, but the departed FELT clunky as well. IA was a much murkier film, morally, but a clearer film, cinematically.

  

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159. "I think irreverent is the word here"
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After a string of more epic/prestigious/Oscar-bait works from Scorsese, I can see where The Departed might throw some people off. I know I wasn't expecting it, but it was a welcomed curveball.

Sometimes, when 3 guys get shot in the head in succession, and all their bodies drop into a big bloody pile in front of an old elevator shaft, dammit, it's just funny. *THAT* is the magic of movies, and The Departed made me a believer again.

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178. "man, Infernal Affairs is nothing compared to this"
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the characters in that film are humorless types.

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180. "man you trippin"
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IA is the shit. yeah, departed was funnier, but it was also dumber

  

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181. "Agreed."
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I didn't like IA. I loved The Departed. The characters were better, it was more fleshed out, and it turned a great IDEA into a great FILM.

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144. "the musik"
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thief's theme fit in perfectly. I was hyped.

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152. "lol @ the reference to croissants as "french donuts""
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this movie was hee-la-reeous (c) chappelle's son.

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156. "ALOT better the 2nd time"
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no surprise.

  

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158. "very good movie... but i got a question..."
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matt damon was telling dicaprio that he erased his file during the roof scene and that no one else knew he was a cop since queenan was dead. but dignam was still alive and he knew... what gives?

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161. "dignam quit"
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179. "so what"
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he quit but he didnt die.

he could easily testify to it or whatever, he WAS a cop during the time.

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169. "deleting the profile"
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woudl it really be that easy to create/delete a profile? that shit was easier than myspace, with a big ass NEW and DELETE buttons right next to each other

  

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170. "lol...I know."
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You know how TV shows and movies do, with those huge graphics so viewers can see what they're doing. Even The Wire is guilty of that and that show is as real as it gets.

In real life, you'd think it would take multiple passwords to delete that profile.

>woudl it really be that easy to create/delete a profile?
>that shit was easier than myspace, with a big ass NEW and
>DELETE buttons right next to each other


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175. "RE: lol...I know."
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>You know how TV shows and movies do, with those huge graphics
>so viewers can see what they're doing. Even The Wire is guilty
>of that and that show is as real as it gets.
>
>In real life, you'd think it would take multiple passwords to
>delete that profile.
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>>woudl it really be that easy to create/delete a profile?
>>that shit was easier than myspace, with a big ass NEW and
>>DELETE buttons right next to each other


"Do you really want to delete this file?"

  

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247. "not to post-jack this into a wire discussion, but"
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what aspects of computing in the wire are fake? i always kind of guffawed when that huge phone number showed up, and the whole season 2 dock worker/unloading the cans thing looked kind of fake.

but on one of the season2 commentaries they said that they have a consultant who painstakingly creates every animation to look completely real.

i guess those shots are story telling components and they may need to take artistic license to push the story.

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268. "RE: deleting the profile"
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>woudl it really be that easy to create/delete a profile?
>that shit was easier than myspace, with a big ass NEW and
>DELETE buttons right next to each other

Man, if your bullshit alarm had been off up until that point it jumped to the life right then. Ridiculous. No way you can delete someone that A) went thru the state trooper program or B) had a criminal record or C) was connected to an on-going investigation that easy.

BTW

  

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283. "RE: deleting the profile"
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sullivan was deleting the file that said he was a COP....not erasing his criminal record or whutever...just the file that proved that everything beyond getting kicked out the academy was part of the job...

without that file he would of still of been living a fabricated existence...all it was was his police profile...i mean how difficult can it BE to delete a mere profile???

  

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282. "RE: deleting the profile"
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>woudl it really be that easy to create/delete a profile?
>that shit was easier than myspace, with a big ass NEW and
>DELETE buttons right next to each other


here's the deal with the deleting of the profile. all this time, sullivan DID NOT KNOW HOW TO BREAK INTO THE PROFILE....apparently he tried everything, so you can really say that it wasn't that easy

however, when he asked costigan for the password and turned it it was merely his full name, the look on sullivan's face was like "nah, it COULDN'T been THAT easy!" so they DID take acknowledgement of the fact about the difficulty or lack thereof when breaking into his file...

now DELETING...i really want to ask y'all this, how difficult is it have to be to delete a file? since he has the password and could get into the file...i can really say it would be just as easy to delete it...that was the only record known to say costigan EXISTED as a cop....




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162. "can someone link me to the Infernal Affairs movie"
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everyone is referencing.......

  

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163. "isohunt/netflix is your friend"
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n/m

  

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164. "i don't want to download it........i just want an IMDB link"
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cause when I searched a couple titles came up....

  

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165. "Did you do a *title* search?"
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Because if you did, there would only be two listed under "Popular Results," and it would be crystal clear which one is the Hong Kong IA.

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166. "here"
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http://imdb.com/title/tt0338564/

  

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167. "Booooo. lol"
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168. "RE: thanks!...........n.m."
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172. "anyone notice mad X's in the background before big scenes?"
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I saw Departed twice over the past weekend and I noticed that there was an X in the background of every scene that came before one where people were getting killed.

  

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173. "This was actually pointed out in one or two reviews I read"
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can't remember which ones, though...
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183. "Here's one"
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"Scorsese even throws in multiple references to other movies (The Third Man, Psycho, the use of an X as a harbinger of doom from 1932's Scarface) just because he can, but although the visual homages are great film-buff fun, the movie doesn't depend on them."
- Rene Rodriguez, Miami Herald
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176. "If so, that would be an homage to Hawks' Scarface"
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in which there were X's in death scenes. Some critics said they were crosses, but Hawks said x's. Very well could've been the former...perhaps Hawks was pulling the pragmatist John Ford persona(see Bogdanovich's hilarious interview of Ford on Marty's "Personal Journey..."). Semi-kidding, Hawks seemed sincere (albeit in written interview) while Ford was hilariously dismissive (too strong of a word).

  

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182. "you sure???"
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in the elevator deaths???

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199. "right before then when Damon was on the computer"
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he was looking for Costigan's profile and he clicked a big 'X'

  

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184. "no one's mentioned the Wolverine comic yet..."
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I thought it was interesting that Damon's character, the remorseless, backstabbing rat bastard crooked cop was given an issue of Wolverine early on in the film. Seduction of the innocent indeed!

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186. "Good point..."
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'cause as a kid, he didn't show any signs of issues. He seemed pretty well-adjusted.

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187. "what was Costello's line in that scene...'they call that a paradox'"
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One little touch I loved was how Costello, despite being, y'know, evil incarnate, was actually a pretty smart dude. Not just street smart, like you'd expect, but he was constantly quoting classic literature, going to the opera, drawing on his tablecloth (looked like he wasn't half bad from what I could tell)

And I think Damon and DiCaprio's characters both had instances where they spouted off some famous line that you wouldn't expect them to know.

To me it all sort of reinforced the nurture vs. nature theme of identity that the movie was addressing. Nicholson's opening line about not being a product of his environment, but rather his environment being a product of him. And you know, the guy was like 70 years old running the streets when he didn't really need to be. The fact of the matter seemed to be that he just liked being an evil son of a bitch, plain and simple. He chose that lifestyle and not the other way around. (Of course he was fronting to some degree. Maybe mobbin' was just his way of feeling virile, since all signs lead to him shootin' blanks) So I found that the movie was going against a lot of what conventional wisdom tells us about criminality.

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195. "Whitey Bulger's brother was a big shot government guy in Boston"
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One did VERY well in School, and excelled.

The other was VERY good at crime.

It's always been said "Whitey was the smart one".

Not only was THIS movie influenced by the life and time of Whitey Bulger (as well as "Infernal Affairs"), but also...some HBO series called "Brotherhood" or something, where one's apparently the boss of the Irish neighborhood, and the other is in the government.

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220. "RE: Whitey Bulger's brother was a big shot government guy in Boston"
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>One did VERY well in School, and excelled.
>
>The other was VERY good at crime.
>
>It's always been said "Whitey was the smart one".
>
>Not only was THIS movie influenced by the life and time of
>Whitey Bulger (as well as "Infernal Affairs"), but also...some
>HBO series called "Brotherhood" or something, where one's
>apparently the boss of the Irish neighborhood, and the other
>is in the government.

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284. "RE: what was Costello's line in that scene...'they call that a paradox'"
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yea...sullivan WAS top of his class, so you can say that was quite evident, whereas with costigan, in the beginning when they were reading his conflicted background it said his SAT scores are high, in which digman say he should of been a rocket scientist instead of a state trooper...so both of them were actually real intelligent, which really helps make the story intriguing because it's more of an intellectual cat & mouse game when it comes down to it

  

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197. "im no where near a good movie critic"
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but this movie is a must see..... jesus what a flick

stellar performances, a shifting plot that deviates the climax to an overlooked source of the movie, very much on some mole shit if its own.


walhberg,good... damon. good.... nicholson..good. dicaprio.. fugetaboutit..

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201. "B+"
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that ending was just...i dunno. lol. everyone in the theatre was laughing. it was comical, and i think it damaged the film overall. for about 20mins after we came outta the flick we were goin around fake shooting each other in the head, like "oh hey man, how u been...? BANG!!" lol.

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202. "same here! haha"
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203. "ok, after a second watch"
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-the movie is still great
-i am still not happy with will gettin blasted, however

that seems due to the, well, "attatchment" i have for the character. adversely, i really hated collin and the fact that ill got murked by the second mole didnt help matters.

soooo the fact that he as such a likeable charcter makes for a more bothersome death imo...

so, to that end, it follows the pro restling heel philospy:
the great heels elicit the worst (greatest) fan reaction. i wouldnt have cared about the will death if i didnt find myself wanting for him to come out on top so badly....

so i suppose to that end it makes fr a great emotional jolt..

the dignum scene is still aesomely hillarious though
and it desnt damage the film at all imo

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I came in just to say that. Small role, but he's in it damnit!

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212. "Leo's "Deniro moment""
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When Costigan is giving the chick the envelope to hold onto for him, she trys to tell him something and he says something like, "Just think about what you're going to say..." or something like that.
Anyway, the way Leo delivers those lines reminded me of Deniro so much. Anyone else feel that way during that scene?

  

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215. "the TITLE shuld have tipped off the ending"
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that in itself shuld have told us will was goin out G style
and its entirely appropriate given that perspective, i think

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221. "B-"
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Probably would've been an A- if I hadnt seen the original & knew that this one wasnt supposed to be taken so serious. I can no longer hate on Leo cuz after this an Aviator its cleary obvious that dude can flat out act his ass off. Damon was great as well but seein him in the trailer 4 The Good Shepard before this movie had me even more stoked than this flick. Helluva cast plus Deniro directing?!?!?!

But I digress.

Marky Mark did have terrific lines but played it a little 2 over the top 4 my liking. Same w/ Jack.

Favorite scenes were when Leo sees the therapist the 1st time & the convo outside when she chases after him. And when he pistol whipped the cat reachin 4 his cigs.

  

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222. "RE: B-"
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>Probably would've been an A- if I hadnt seen the original &
>knew that this one wasnt supposed to be taken so serious.

Yeah, but now that you know, you're not changing your grade?

Damon was
>great as well but seein him in the trailer 4 The Good Shepard
>before this movie had me even more stoked than this flick.
>Helluva cast plus Deniro directing?!?!?!

I'm really excited about that one, too.


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225. "RE: B-"
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>>Probably would've been an A- if I hadnt seen the original &
>>knew that this one wasnt supposed to be taken so serious.
>
>Yeah, but now that you know, you're not changing your grade?

Ehhh. I think I'll need to see it again & judge it on its own merits

> Damon was
>>great as well but seein him in the trailer 4 The Good
>Shepard
>>before this movie had me even more stoked than this flick.
>>Helluva cast plus Deniro directing?!?!?!
>
>I'm really excited about that one, too.

That shit blew me the fuck away. Possibly even another reason why I then wasnt impressed w/ The Departed as much.

  

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224. "RE: B-"
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>Probably would've been an A- if I hadnt seen the original &
>knew that this one wasnt supposed to be taken so serious. I
>can no longer hate on Leo cuz after this an Aviator its cleary
>obvious that dude can flat out act his ass off. Damon was
>great as well but seein him in the trailer 4 The Good Shepard
>before this movie had me even more stoked than this flick.
>Helluva cast plus Deniro directing?!?!?!
>
>But I digress.
>
>Marky Mark did have terrific lines but played it a little 2
>over the top 4 my liking. Same w/ Jack.
>

yeah people act like they write their own lines


>Favorite scenes were when Leo sees the therapist the 1st time
>& the convo outside when she chases after him. And when he
>pistol whipped the cat reachin 4 his cigs.

i thought the psychiatrist interview was good too

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227. "RE: B-"
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>>Favorite scenes were when Leo sees the therapist the 1st
>time
>>& the convo outside when she chases after him. And when he
>>pistol whipped the cat reachin 4 his cigs.
>
>i thought the psychiatrist interview was good too

That whole exchange was great but especially when she finally reluctantly gave him the 2 pills & he's like, (paraphrasing) "Great! Why dont you just give me a bottle & a gun instead so I can just blow my brains out" Then leaves & ask her, (paraphrasing again)"Great now you're just gonna let me walk outta here pissed. What if that was a serious threat hotshot?"

Loved it

Then it got even better when she tried 2 play it off by sayin som'n like (pa;)I dont know why the last person of the day I see is always the most difficult. And he comes back w/, (pa)"It's cuz you're tired & you dont give a shit not some strange coincidence"

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223. "decent movie.... *spoilers for IA & Departed*"
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in Infernal Affairs, Tony Leung (Costigan) & Andy Lau (Sullivan) used morse code to communicate with each other during the car sequence before the triad boss/Costello's demise, and i thought that was pretty neat...so i was a bit disappointed that it wasn't implemented and was replaced with text messages instead in The Departed

sad to say, if i hadn't seen Infernal Affairs, i probably would have enjoyed The Departed a lot more :/ not saying IA is superior, but the element of surprise in The Departed is gone if you've seen the original...

but overall, it was an enjoyable movie and a good remake

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226. "Exactly."
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>in Infernal Affairs, Tony Leung (Costigan) & Andy Lau
>(Sullivan) used morse code to communicate with each other
>during the car sequence before the triad boss/Costello's
>demise, and i thought that was pretty neat...so i was a bit
>disappointed that it wasn't implemented and was replaced with
>text messages instead in The Departed

There were times when I couldn't believe Costigan or Sullivan wouldn't get caught texting. And when they met with the Chinese guys, I wondered why Costello didn't make them leave their phones on a table, like they did in IA. I would think that Costello would want to be absolutely sure that no one's phone was on.

>
>sad to say, if i hadn't seen Infernal Affairs, i probably
>would have enjoyed The Departed a lot more :/ not saying IA is
>superior, but the element of surprise in The Departed is gone
>if you've seen the original...
>
>but overall, it was an enjoyable movie and a good remake

Couldn't agree more.

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228. "RE: decent movie.... *spoilers for IA & Departed*"
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>in Infernal Affairs, Tony Leung (Costigan) & Andy Lau
>(Sullivan) used morse code to communicate with each other
>during the car sequence before the triad boss/Costello's
>demise, and i thought that was pretty neat...so i was a bit
>disappointed that it wasn't implemented and was replaced with
>text messages instead in The Departed

I agree. The use of morse code in IA was much more clever & interesting. It was also executed better.

>sad to say, if i hadn't seen Infernal Affairs, i probably
>would have enjoyed The Departed a lot more :/ not saying IA is
>superior, but the element of surprise in The Departed is gone
>if you've seen the original...
>
>but overall, it was an enjoyable movie and a good remake
>
>and Dignam was a GREAT character

He was but I guess I either still havent gotten over my Marky Mark bias or it was the bad bowl cut that was throwin his character off-kilter

  

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229. "OK maybe I'm slow or something"
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I had no idea that this was a remake until I actually started wacthing the movie. Did they try to keep that a secret or something?


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230. "Wow. Not at all."
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It even comes up when you search for Infernal Affairs on IMDb.

>I had no idea that this was a remake until I actually started
>wacthing the movie. Did they try to keep that a secret or
>something?

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PTP is about as close as I get. I'm too afraid of spoilers.



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232. "Well, there was mention of it in here, too."
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Way back before it even finished filming. I remember some people weren't too thrilled by the idea of it, especially with Damon and DiCaprio in the lead roles.

>PTP is about as close as I get. I'm too afraid of spoilers.


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All I remember is there being a post with the trailer. People seemed to think it look pretty dope and so did I.



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234. "well... most remakes are obvious because they have the same title"
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that was given to the priest......i blinked and missed what was on the piece of paper

  

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236. "Yeah, that irked me."
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I've seen the movie twice and didn't catch it either time. They only showed it for a split-second. I can only assume it was something sexual, either Costello with the nun, or a priest and a boy. I'll pause on it when I get the DVD. lol

>that was given to the priest......i blinked and missed what
>was on the piece of paper


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237. "i thought it was just two people having sex"
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and he put it down on the table, so when the nun came back, she thought the priest had drawn it

although, that might not quite work

i just watched the Bourne Supremacy though, and (not for the first time), they didn't properly articulate/record the last line of the film, making it inaudible. Fucking retarded.

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245. "she saw Costello in the restaurant"
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If a lewd drawing shows up on the table, I would hope she's good enough at putting 2 and 2 together to know it wasn't a priest who drew it.

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238. "<<< shows up late as always <<<"
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this movie was great... im surprised not too many were feelin mr. diCaprio... i understand, he DID do Titanic... but if he didn't shine in this movie here then you just hate him... i personally think he was the star and not just because the story practically revolved around him neither... dude straight kicked ass and took names the whole movie... neck and neck with jack nicholson... JACK FKN NICHOLSON!!! everyone casted did a outstanding job tho...

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239. "Hmm...I didn't get that vibe."
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Seemed to me the majority of people in this post respected his work in this film.

>this movie was great... im surprised not too many were feelin
>mr. diCaprio...


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240. "yeah I thought he kinda repped well in this one. n/m"
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246. "yeah, dude won me over with this one."
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Again, you know you've experienced a real sea change when you're actually


*ahem...BIG ASS SPOILER*




when you're actually mad that DiCaprio dies in a film.


Shit was kinda funny in Titanic. In Departed, it totally pissed me off!

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241. "Leo SHOULD get an Oscar nod for this one."
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248. "This film has LEGS at the box office, damn!"
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255. "100 Mil"
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249. "Just saw the film today, 10/28/06. Yep-Late, Nope-didn't read"
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any of these before my post.

Love it, will see it again. First impression-

DiCaprio CARRIES the film. He was incredible, so much so that I was rooting for him in the end. Personally, the best performance of all in the movie!!!

Damon held his role down. He and Leo really came of age in this film.

Wahlberg, see Damon comments. Great job.

Jack N. - very good, as always, though I felt some of his mannerisms were over the top, like the 'rat' face, etc.

Scorcese - please, does the man ever fail? Not always perfect but always damn good.

Music - "thiefs theme" - nuff said

Weakness - don't understand why ol girl gave it up to Leo so fast, after having recently just moved in w/her man. Must have some attraction to killers or 'vulnerable' men. Can anyone clarify? Maybe already discussed, will read the comments.

Great Film! Best of the year for me.

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260. "Damon couldnt get it up enough for her..."
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>Weakness - don't understand why ol girl gave it up to Leo so
>fast, after having recently just moved in w/her man. Must have
>some attraction to killers or 'vulnerable' men. Can anyone
>clarify? Maybe already discussed, will read the comments.

there was a scene where they are in bed and she is holding him consoling him...he is on the verge of tears and she says:
"It happens to most men..its not that big of a deal"

If you see the movie again, peep that scene...

  

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251. "questions after watching (spoilers)"
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1. was dead gangster shot by police really a cop? he didn't rat out costigan, but costello also said that police is making him a cop for costello to stop looking for a rat. but if he really was a cop why would police put in costello's crew another undercover?

2. where the fuck was dignam when he was most needed? how come him and costigan didn't try to contact each other after costello's death? also there at the roof, didn't costigan said to anthony anderson that dignam was supposed to be there? so where the fuck was he?


oh, ray winstone was the shit!

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252. "some answers."
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>1. was dead gangster shot by police really a cop? he didn't
>rat out costigan, but costello also said that police is making
>him a cop for costello to stop looking for a rat. but if he
>really was a cop why would police put in costello's crew
>another undercover?

he was FBI, to my remembrance

>2. where the fuck was dignam when he was most needed? how come
>him and costigan didn't try to contact each other after
>costello's death? also there at the roof, didn't costigan said
>to anthony anderson that dignam was supposed to be there? so
>where the fuck was he?

this pisses me off, because then will could have lived
and i wanted will to live
i HOPED and damn near PRAYED for will to live

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257. "Costigan gave Dignam's contact info to ol'girl"
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He told her to open the package, or hold onto it.

I think he assumed she would contact Dignam. I don't think Will contacted Dignam.

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258. "maybe it was his DNA readings so she knew whose baby it was"
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lol i just feel obliged to supply a smarter-than-thou theory since my Reservoir Dogs theory (Mr Pink running on the sidewalk is actually, chronologically, the last scene, his escape) got shot threw by continuity errors

still... they never specified so, i feel there must be some other possibility that made scorsese think 'you know, that would be good too... let's leave it unrevealed'

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253. "7.5 out of 10"
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i don't think subtlety is necessarily an acquired taste...

Matt Damon's performance was ass. he's better (tho not necessarily more believable) in action movies (Bourne series).
or maybe he just doesn't hold a candle to Andy Lau *shrug*

DiCaprio did a solid job.

how is he gonna text-message the location on a cellphone in the backseat tho? wtf??
the entire soundtrack lost to the one song on the original.
didn't like the death sequence on one dude, where they spell it out that he knows DiCaprio is the mole..
was much better executed in the original, where it's left slightly open.
what's in the package DiCaprio gives the girl? i would guess the tapes but that's not tied off in the end.
the ending's reservoir dogs sequence sucks, because there's no emotional connect, again unlike the original.

  

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254. "RE: 7.5 out of 10"
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>i don't think subtlety is necessarily an acquired taste...
>
>Matt Damon's performance was ass. he's better (tho not
>necessarily more believable) in action movies (Bourne
>series).
>or maybe he just doesn't hold a candle to Andy Lau *shrug*

BINGO. Lau was terrific in Infernal but then again he was ass in Daggers so maybe that role just fit him better than it did Damon. Damon looks like he'll do much better in The Good Shepherd tho.

  

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256. "haha cosign your cosign"
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Lau was creepy in Daggers

  

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259. "Article on The Departed's cinematography"
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http://www.ascmag.com/magazine_dynamic/October2006/TheDeparted/page1.php

  

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261. "I just watched it"
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great flick
but who honestly couldnt predict the last scene?

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262. "i just saw it last night too"
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my main question is, how did the other mole know to turn up at the warehouse at the end?

  

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263. "a couple others"
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>how did the other mole know to turn up
>at the warehouse at the end?

man, why'd you have to go and raise that question? never crossed my mind.

others:

- earlier scene at the warehouse and the shit hits the fan, the cops call sullivan for back up. sullivan turns off the radio and it frozen with panic. he never calls for back up, and it appears that he's sort of giving up and exposing himself at that point, but his inaction doesnt seem to be addressed. don't the cops ever question why he does this?

- how could the other undercover cop in frank's gang be involved in throwing Queenan off the roof if he was a cop?

these are all minor things though, and Hitchcock use to call the people who needed to connect each and every dot in films the "bean counters" .... I don't want to be a bean counter, so fuck the answers. Great film.

  

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264. "there wasn't another undercover cop in Frank's gang"
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>- how could the other undercover cop in frank's gang be
>involved in throwing Queenan off the roof if he was a cop?

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265. "best Scorsese flick since Goodfellas"
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and I liked The Aviator, Gangs of New York, Casino and Cape Fear

Leo has been cool with me since "The Beach" and he comes through again...although I really liked Matt Damon's performance the most

personally, the ending wasn't cheesy...although I can see why people would think so

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269. "it says so right on the box!"
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270. "My 2 cents"
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I was holding out b/c the last two Scorsese movies I thought were crap and from the trailer this looked like it was going to be over-the-top and terrible. Plus I'm a huge Leo + Marky Mark hater. However...

Leo won me over. I thought he was excellent but his character was a little underdeveloped. I cared about him (as you are supposed to) however I never knew him. What drove him? When a character is taking these kind of chances with his life the answer to that question needs to be crystal clear. Is this a grudge? Revenge? An attempt to do something good with his own life?

Marky Mark still bothers me.

Nicholson was a total distraction. Never once did I think Frank Costello, crime boss only Jack Nicholson, actor. That was a major minus for me b/c I never took the darker side of the film that seriously.

Damon was excellent and continues to impress me in a difficult role.

Vera Farmiga was perfect. And I didn't really mind her sub-plot. I thought it added elements to the film even if it was definitely contrived and unlikely that she would be involved with both of those men so intimately.

Filmmaking wise - the first 20-30 minutes is razor sharp. Great pacing, great set-up, great visually. The 2nd half of the film basically de-evolves into complete action thriller cliche. Things get more and more far fetched and ridiculous. Very disappointing.

It's a good movie - not great. It redeems Scorsese to a point but isn't anywhere close to his real classics. Truthfully, strictly in terms of filmmaking Miami Vice and Inside Man are both superior films in a similar genre.

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271. "^^^Stolen from my pocket"
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>Leo won me over.

>Marky Mark still bothers me.
>
>Nicholson was a total distraction. Never once did I think
>Frank Costello, crime boss only Jack Nicholson, actor. That
>was a major minus for me b/c I never took the darker side of
>the film that seriously.
>
>Damon was excellent and continues to impress me in a difficult
>role.
>
>Vera Farmiga was perfect. And I didn't really mind her
>sub-plot. I thought it added elements to the film even if it
>was definitely contrived and unlikely that she would be
>involved with both of those men so intimately.
>
>Filmmaking wise - the first 20-30 minutes is razor sharp.
>Great pacing, great set-up, great visually. The 2nd half of
>the film basically de-evolves into complete action thriller
>cliche. Things get more and more far fetched and ridiculous.
>Very disappointing.
>
>It's a good movie - not great. It redeems Scorsese to a point
>but isn't anywhere close to his real classics.

Cosign all of the above

Truthfully,
>strictly in terms of filmmaking Miami Vice and Inside Man are
>both superior films in a similar genre.

Inside Man yes, but Miami Vice had just as many faults as The Departed imo. Maybe not the same faults but just as many. In what areas do you feel Miami Vice exceeded The Departed in terms of flimaking? I'd give it the edge in cinematography & tone but not much else. The acting is a bit uneven in both but I'd still give the edge to The Departed overall in that category. How bout plot, story, & script wise tho?

  

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272. "From my POV"
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Story wise Inside Man is the clear winner of the 3. When Spike is set free from using the script as his own personal agenda and reverts back to being just a filmmaker - look out (see also 25th Hour). You have expensive swoop dolly shots. You have intricate track shots. You have Spike signature shots. You have a different look for past and present. You have several scenes that are completely improvised. You have tone, pacing, etc. Is it innovative? Not really. But for a popcorn thriller this is just about as good as it gets. Of course helped greatly by powerhouse performances by Denzel and Clive and a very capable supporting cast as well as the most generous budget Spike's had to work with since Malcolm X.

Miami Vice has many flaws. Story line, acting, improbability - I could go on. HOWEVER - the tone is set early and maintained throughout. This is gritty and real and happening right now - and yet there is an inherent appeal in watching this kind of lifestyle in real time. The camera work I thought was amazing. Again and again my jaw was in my lap and I kept thinking I had never seen a summer blockbuster that was this aesthetically pleasing and this in the moment. And yet this wasn't just Bertolucci and Storraro. There was genuine jump-you-out-of-your-seat action that was as grisly and far more realistic that anything Scorsese is doing in Departed.

In Departed Marty managed his actors well. I think he got the exact performance he wanted from all of them, esp. Leo. However, as another poster said if you're going to stretch this movie to 2.5 hours you better A) Do a little more than play cat and mouse or B) Have some fully developed characters. He did neither. Filmmaking wise I wasn't really impressed besides the pre-title card chapter. I'm not looking for camera tricks but what distinguished this from any number of action thrillers? Be honest, the last 45 minutes of the movie - assuming complete ignorance with just the film to go off - would you know that was a Scorsese picture? I don't think so. In the end Departed wins with high profile actors playing things out in a high powered drama. Very little of the movie's success do I attribute directly to Marty.

For those that disagree what impressed you about the FILMMAKING?

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273. "I was VERY Disappointed"
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ok, so i finally got to see it last night. overall i thought it was a bit of a mess. decent and entertaining, but a mess.

i will fully admit that there were a few things that tainted it it for me right off the bat:

1. i absolutely loved infernal affairs when i saw it a couple years back.
2. this movie was hyped as the best thing since sliced bread, so i was expecting a masterpiece.
3. imo, an amazing cast. all great actors. so again, big expectations.

so basically i had HUGE expectations for it, and was definitely let down. however, with that said, i think i gave it as unbiased of a chance as i humanly could.

my main problem with it was the lack of character development. by the end i cared more about damon's "bad guy" than dicaprio's "good guy." but i didn't feel like i really knew either of them. also, as someone said before, nicholson was very distracting. i didn't see costello, i saw the famous actor going over the top. and i don't get the mark wahlberg praise either. i like him quite a bit as an actor but i think he's done much much better. alec baldwin was quality as usual though.

my other big gripe with it was the style & tone. for the first 15-20 min. the film really had a distinct vibe and style to it. very similar to infernal affairs. then it sort of trailed off into a generic cops vs. mob movie. it was almost like they got lazy with the editing or something. very weird to me.

  

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274. "Up for further discussion.."
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Forget the performances. What was interesting/good about this in terms of filmmaking?

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275. "The lack of character development was a major point of the movie"
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They referenced Freud and psychology NUMEROUS times throughout the film. Leo was going to see the shrink, Wahlberg was ripping his family history apart at the beginning....Leo asked if he was a shrink.

Not only were a few characters not explained...NO characters were fully explained. I found it was a movie mostly about people's natures, and a huge part of the movie was human nature in general.

How people are raised. How they grow up, how they end up.

Colin was a shy, smart kid at the beginning. He ended up a confident scumbag.

Leo had a good upbringing for the most part, but he was tortured (also a symbol of Irish-American assimulation, IMO).

The girl was a shrink asking people about their troubles, but she was a liar, and had issues.

Costello had a good, decent upbringing (both parents), but it was noted a few times he was just a bad seed.

Queenan didn't have a father, but he was a strait-up good guy who was a family man, a good catholic, and his son was in Notre Dame.

Dignam was a prick, but he was basically a prick because he doesn;t deal with bullshit. he's just trying to do the right thing at all times, because that was his nature. A reason why he murked Colin @ the end, because even tho he wasn't a cop NEmore, he still killed Colin because it was the right thing to do (flashback to what Costello says about facing a loaded gun). Dignam's nature was justice...whether or not he was a cop.

This movies just got a shitload of psychological layers to it.

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280. "well..."
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i agree that there is more than one layer to the film. i also agree with your character descriptions. however, one sentence descriptions are not the same as fully developed characters.

a lack of character development should never be a "main point" of a movie. i don't care if one of the characters is supposed to be completely shrouded in mystery. you still have to make the audience feel something towards the characters. whether it's love, hate, or at least curiosity/wonder. but if i'm indifferent towards a main character by the end of a movie, then i believe there was a failure somewhere along the way. it could be the fault of the writer, director, actor, or all of the above. but someone didn't do there job as well as they could have.

now that doesn't mean i consider the entire film a failure. and i feel quite the contrary about the departed. i think it was very good. i just don't think it's deserving of the universal acclaim it's recieved.

  

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285. "in frank's words it's called a "PARADOX""
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>They referenced Freud and psychology NUMEROUS times
>throughout the film. Leo was going to see the shrink, Wahlberg
>was ripping his family history apart at the beginning....Leo
>asked if he was a shrink.
>
>Not only were a few characters not explained...NO characters
>were fully explained. I found it was a movie mostly about
>people's natures, and a huge part of the movie was human
>nature in general.
>
>How people are raised. How they grow up, how they end up.
>
>Colin was a shy, smart kid at the beginning. He ended up a
>confident scumbag.
>
>Leo had a good upbringing for the most part, but he was
>tortured (also a symbol of Irish-American assimulation, IMO).
>
>The girl was a shrink asking people about their troubles, but
>she was a liar, and had issues.
>
>Costello had a good, decent upbringing (both parents), but it
>was noted a few times he was just a bad seed.
>
>Queenan didn't have a father, but he was a strait-up good guy
>who was a family man, a good catholic, and his son was in
>Notre Dame.
>
>Dignam was a prick, but he was basically a prick because he
>doesn;t deal with bullshit. he's just trying to do the right
>thing at all times, because that was his nature. A reason why
>he murked Colin @ the end, because even tho he wasn't a cop
>NEmore, he still killed Colin because it was the right thing
>to do (flashback to what Costello says about facing a loaded
>gun). Dignam's nature was justice...whether or not he was a
>cop.
>
>This movies just got a shitload of psychological layers to
>it.





EXCELLENT POINT....props

  

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281. "if you saw infernal affairs first, you probably gonna think"
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departed was a hot mess, which i tend to agree with.

Departed just seemed dumb as fuck in comparison.

  

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276. "After the *mumbles* -th viewing, one thing is really bugging me"
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The editing, namely the transtions from one scene to another. The edits just seem to occur so abruptly to me... It's almost as if some executive asked Martin and Thelma if they could "pace up" the movie some more... even though it's already at 2 hours, 31 minutes... And oh yeah, with about a week to go before the Oscars, this is now my pic for Best Picture (not in our online game, though)... and yes, this pick will most likely change again in the next 9 days...
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278. "I liked the abrupt editing"
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especially in the middle, it gave that back and forth whirlwind of identities between Sullivan and Costigan

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277. "4th time around and I still love it"
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279. "A-"
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I thought I'd like Nicholson's performance more going in, and the rat at the end was cheesy, but I thought it deid a much better job building up the backstory of the two moles than Infernal Affairs did (I've only seen the first one, but they really just plunge you in and then use flashbacks, which didn't work nearly as well for me.) And honestly I think the only two actors in Infernal who acted up to the standard in this one are the mole who had infiltrated the gang and the gang boss. I don't think Andy Lau is all that good, personally.

Damon and especially DiCaprio were great, and Baldwin and Wahlberg even moreso. Just an incredibly entertaining and compelling movie, if a little overrated. I hope it wins the Oscar. If Babel does instead, I'm gonna punch the next effete Hollywood type I see.

  

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287. "My post about the ending was deleted...SPOILERS..."
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I've said over and over again on the boards that I love this movie. I don't need to explain it again. It's an "A", easily.

Has anyone pieced it together yet? I'm still not satisfied with the "rough justice" explanation above.









I thought that Wahlberg may have been the police departments second mole to Costello's second mole? Remember, both the mob and the police were using the same strategies the entire movie, basically stalemating each other...so it makes sense.

How could Wahlberg's character have known about any of the stuff that went down after he was fired? This is what's messing me up...someone HAD to contact Dignham somehow. I really don't think he just decided to kill someone on a hunch. The only thing I can think of is that he was getting the same information from Costello that DiCaprio was getting, by being part of the mob as well.

*Late Pass* Was the same chick that was pregnant with Damon with DiCaprio too. For some reason, it looked like two different people lol. If this is true, did she only stop seeing DiCaprio when she knew she was pregnant?

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288. "Last post con't...SPOILERS..."
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OR I can also see Costigan just flat out telling Dignam the deal before he confronted Sullivan but any other explanation I just don't get...

  

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290. "you might want to watch the movie again."
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>How could Wahlberg's character have known about any of the
>stuff that went down after he was fired? This is what's
>messing me up...someone HAD to contact Dignham somehow. I
>really don't think he just decided to kill someone on a hunch.
>The only thing I can think of is that he was getting the same
>information from Costello that DiCaprio was getting, by being
>part of the mob as well.

I'm assuming the letter Costigan gave Madolyn to open if he was killed was information she was to send to Dingham, or for her to contact him.

Even if that wasn't the case, Dingham could have figured it out himself. Sullivan kills Costello with no witnesses around. Costigan ends up dead along with two other detectives and Sullivan is the only one left standing. Dingham knew there was a mole in the unit and after the way Costigan died it would have been pretty obvious to him what went down.

>*Late Pass* Was the same chick that was pregnant with Damon
>with DiCaprio too.

uh...yeah.

>For some reason, it looked like two
>different people lol. If this is true, did she only stop
>seeing DiCaprio when she knew she was pregnant?

well, they were never really "seeing" each other as it was plainly stated she had a serious boyfriend

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291. "ok so im late as hell..jus bought the dvd"
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wow
that was insane
it deserved all the praise
awesome flick

  

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