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"how did you get BACK into comic books?"


  

          

and when/why did you leave in the first place?

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RE: how did you get BACK into comic books?
Nov 01st 2005
1
yeah, that sounds similar to my general experience
Nov 01st 2005
2
I've left twice now
Nov 01st 2005
3
As a once proud Marvel reader, it saddens me to say...
Nov 01st 2005
4
      Yeah, last Marvel book I picked up was Spiderman
Nov 01st 2005
5
      The "clone" saga lives in infamy as...
Nov 01st 2005
13
           RE: The "clone" saga lives in infamy as...
Nov 01st 2005
22
                The guy who was Spider-Man was always the real Peter Parker
Nov 01st 2005
31
      Daredevil is worth it.
Nov 01st 2005
8
           Yeah, I'm thinking about going and getting into the back isses
Nov 01st 2005
14
           RE: Daredevil is worth it.
Nov 01st 2005
24
I was going through my closet
Nov 01st 2005
6
this was a big issue for me, too
Nov 01st 2005
9
      continuity is a scary thing, man
Nov 01st 2005
18
      My X-Men advice
Nov 01st 2005
21
Nice Spin-Off
Nov 01st 2005
7
JRennolds deserves a man of the year award or something
Nov 01st 2005
11
The man is a visionary
Nov 01st 2005
15
Yeah, this place is a big factor to dragging me back in
Nov 01st 2005
17
I think this is true for a lot of us
Nov 01st 2005
23
      i've been thinking about this lately
Nov 01st 2005
26
           yeah, I don't look at it as regression either
Nov 01st 2005
27
Let me just say, I love PTP
Nov 01st 2005
10
LOL bascally
Nov 01st 2005
12
I Fell In Love With A Girl
Nov 01st 2005
16
thats hilarious
Nov 02nd 2005
45
i pretty much know WHEN i stopped
Nov 01st 2005
19
...like riding a bicycle
Nov 01st 2005
36
How I got out...
Nov 01st 2005
20
I left when Power of Shazam! got boring
Nov 01st 2005
25
never really quit
Nov 01st 2005
28
a book store was closing and i asked...
Nov 01st 2005
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RE: how did you get BACK into comic books?
Nov 01st 2005
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RE: how did you get BACK into comic books?
Nov 01st 2005
33
These three titles got me back:
Nov 01st 2005
32
Madman was GREAT.
Nov 01st 2005
39
great post afkap
Nov 01st 2005
34
yeah, i'd like to know when and why you stopped
Nov 01st 2005
35
My name is Miles, and I....read comic books.
Nov 01st 2005
37
oh shit..you hung out with Jim Mahfood!
Nov 01st 2005
38
      Mahfood is one of my heroes
Nov 01st 2005
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      You ever check out Evan Dorkin?
Nov 02nd 2005
44
      Yeah, he's still a good friend, actually.
Nov 01st 2005
42
i was a preteen in the early 90s
Nov 01st 2005
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RE: how did you get BACK into comic books?
Nov 02nd 2005
43
i stopped because sports/sportscards were my life after
Nov 02nd 2005
46
why'd i leave?
Nov 02nd 2005
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mrhood75
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1. "RE: how did you get BACK into comic books?"
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First why I left:

College. Not, as in, "I was in college and too cool to collect comics," but as in it just wasn't very convenient to get somewhere to buy them anymore. For some reason in West Philly near the mid-1990s, there weren't a lot of comic stores near campus. The closest I got in the beginning was a rack in the small Tower Records across the street from my freshman dorm, but they didn't sell the stuff I liked. I didn't feel like going down to South Street every weekend. Figuring this out, I paired down the number of titles I wanted to collect and talked my brother into heading to comic shop every week, and then having my mom mail me the comics. I think he got tired of it. During senior year, a comic book store opened up right on campus, and I kept up with a few titles, by I was already pairing stuff down.

Since I was kind of out of practice by the time I got back from school, I had difficulty getting back into stuff. And besides, most of the titles weren't as enjoyable anymore. Most of the Image comics had fallen off. Hulk was getting wack ever ssince he left eh Pantheon. There was all that Onslaught bullshit. So I think I just kept on collecting Savage Dragon, Thunderbolts, and the new JLA. By the time I went to grad school it was just JLA. Theb I got out school and got a full-time job, and I stopped that too.

How I got back:

Not really sure. I guess I kept a tangential interest in JLA and another one of my friends has always maintained his love. So it had been in the background for a while now. I started buying TPBs of old stories, like Hush, V is For Venetta, and The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. I bought all seven issues of Identity Crisis. I've started buying the Preacher TPBs. And now I'm firmly into Infite Crisis.

I guess I'm not going to be as deep into it as I was in high school or the first few years of college, but I still find the shit enjoyable.

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2. "yeah, that sounds similar to my general experience"
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i'll get into it in a little more detail later

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3. "I've left twice now"
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Tue Nov-01-05 03:12 PM by OldPro

  

          

Once in the early 80s and again in the mid 90s. Both times, I just got bored with the books I was buying and felt they had nothing new to add to the characters legacy. (I've always liked limited series for just this reason) That's why when I left the Marvel books I came back buying DC and Image. I wanted something different and new. I've been thinking about starting up again but I'm not sure what to buy. I've thought about going back to Marvel, but from what little I've seen of their books lately, I'm not too sure that would be a good move.

  

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4. "As a once proud Marvel reader, it saddens me to say..."
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...that I can barely think of a single Marvel title I'd have any interest in picking up now.

They've pissed all over the Avengers. The Hulk, Spider-Man, and the X-Titles all look stupid. The only things that would vaguely interesting are Black Panther and Daredevil. And I've been out of the loop so long in Marvel, I don't even know if I should bother.

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5. "Yeah, last Marvel book I picked up was Spiderman"
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Must have been 94 or so. Any way, they had a twist where his clone had come back. Only it was supposed to be the real spider-man and it was the clone that had been living Peter's life all these years. Not sure how they played that out, but it wasn't moving me.

  

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13. "The "clone" saga lives in infamy as..."
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...one of the worst comic brain-farts ever. I tremendous waste of time by all accounts. I think it is safe to say that nothing good came out of that whole debacle.

Anyway, that was right around when I started falling off with Spider-Man. I heard about the clone thing coming and just quit.

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22. "RE: The "clone" saga lives in infamy as..."
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>...one of the worst comic brain-farts ever. I tremendous
>waste of time by all accounts. I think it is safe to say that
>nothing good came out of that whole debacle.
>
>Anyway, that was right around when I started falling off with
>Spider-Man. I heard about the clone thing coming and just
>quit.

So was the Peter that came back the real Peter or was he the clone?

  

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31. "The guy who was Spider-Man was always the real Peter Parker"
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The clone thing was devised by Green Goblin as a way to fuck with Peter's mind. The clone, who they at one time thought was the real Peter PArker, was killed. It was all really, really confusing and offensively stupid.

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8. "Daredevil is worth it."
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Bendis's run was one of the things that brought me back to comics

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14. "Yeah, I'm thinking about going and getting into the back isses"
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OR maybe there are TPBs available or something.

But I'll still never forgive Bendis for Avengers: Disassembled.

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24. "RE: Daredevil is worth it."
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Tue Nov-01-05 04:59 PM by OldPro

  

          

I've just never really liked the character of Daredevil. I picked up a few of his books back in the day, but it seemed like a Spider-man spin off then. They were always crossing over into each others books and fighting many of the same villians.

  

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6. "I was going through my closet"
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I pulled out some old comics and started reading them. Maybe recently seeing the Spider-Man movie was an influence too. This lead to frequent trips to the comic store, as well as lots of internet research to try to figure out what the hell had been going on in these books. I had been scared off from superhero books for a while, fearing I'd try to read them and not understand any of the continuity. But I've always felt that if you like something or find something interesting, you should find out as much as there is to know about it (I've always hated the idea of merely skimming the surface.)Reading comics has also helped me unlock more creative outlets in my brain.

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9. "this was a big issue for me, too"
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>I had been scared off from
>superhero books for a while, fearing I'd try to read them and
>not understand any of the continuity.

i still haven't completely gotten over it, either. which is probably one of the reasons why it took me a long time to pick up JSA and i still refuse to touch any X-titles (i recently checked out Astonishing, though)

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18. "continuity is a scary thing, man"
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But God bless the digital age. Wikipedia, .CBR's... all things considered it hasn't been that difficult to play catch up. I'm still not completely there yet, especially considering I'm reading a lot titles for the first time ever (the DC stuff mainly), plus you know what they say, the more things change, the more they stay the same. Seems to hold true with comics especially.

  

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21. "My X-Men advice"
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Read the Grant Morrison stuff, but ignore anything else from the last 15 years. Trying to keep up with it is a big headache. I was even buying trades like Inferno and Fall of the Mutants, but it's all still just a bunch of convoluted mess.

It's amazing how the most popular comic book franchise takes a cryptic decoding to try to make any sense of it. Then again, America's current favorite book is the DaVinci Code.

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7. "Nice Spin-Off"
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Why I left:

Short answer: Girls

Long answer: High school, new interests (see above), general lack of quality in the stuff I was reading at the time... Moved to a new town in the Summer and didn't know anybody- Okay, generally isolation is a good reason to read comics, but for me they weren't nearly as fun without my homeboys there to bounce "Who is the X-Traitor" theories off of. I sort of slowly phased out of it, relapsing on occasion. I guess this would have been a prime time for me to discover indies, but unfortunately I didn't. I just kind of thought I had "outgrown" comics altogether, even though I never lost my fondness for them. Oddly enough I didn't stop drawing them, either. Although it was around this time I got more interested in the humorous comic strip format than the superhero comic book format. I stopped wanting to be the next Jim Lee, and instead set my sights on cats like Bill Watterson and Gary Larson.

Why I came back:

You motherfuckers played a big part in it. I'd regularly lurk the Comic Book of the Week posts, just to kind of get a feel for what was going on. My interest was piqued. On top of that, my co-workers are all comic geeks, and one of them lent me the first six issues of Astonishing X-Men. I think the next week I tried setting foot in a comic shop again, but it was completely overwhelming and I ran out whimpering. Fast forward a few months and I'm back with a vengeance. Man I am *this* close to starting a pull list and everything.

I also think that being older, out of school, and married has something to do with it. Maybe a sort of longing for a second adolesence? A quarter-life crisis perhaps?








  

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11. "JRennolds deserves a man of the year award or something"
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>You motherfuckers played a big part in it. I'd regularly lurk
>the Comic Book of the Week posts, just to kind of get a feel
>for what was going on. My interest was piqued.

JR basically pulled this whole thing off by himself, dragging us old sumbitches in with him. i can remember when he used to rave about comics in Okayartist and nobody knew what the hell he was talking about.

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15. "The man is a visionary"
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I mean, how many copies of Infinite Crisis #1 did this man sell? Dude deserves some fucking residuals, at the very least.

  

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17. "Yeah, this place is a big factor to dragging me back in"
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If I want to understand what y'all are talking about 75%, I gotta start shelling out money for new issues and shit. OR just spend a lot of time on Wikipedia.

And for the record, I was far too much of a geek to ever let girls come between me comics. But that's probably why I never dated in high school.

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23. "I think this is true for a lot of us"
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>Maybe a sort of longing for a second
>adolesence? A quarter-life crisis perhaps?

I mean, I was going around buying freakin action figures last year.

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26. "i've been thinking about this lately"
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>>Maybe a sort of longing for a second
>>adolesence? A quarter-life crisis perhaps?

especially since the girlfriend accused me of "reliving my childhood"

i don't think i'm regressing to childhood or adolescence, and i think the manner i approach comics now is completely adult (well, as adult as you can get reading about musclebound dudes in long johns punching each other through walls)

but there IS a certain feeling of comfort and happiness i find reading and talking about comics... a certain safety of going back to a purer, simpler time in my life

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27. "yeah, I don't look at it as regression either"
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>>>Maybe a sort of longing for a second
>>>adolesence? A quarter-life crisis perhaps?
>
>especially since the girlfriend accused me of "reliving my
>childhood"
>
>i don't think i'm regressing to childhood or adolescence, and
>i think the manner i approach comics now is completely adult
>(well, as adult as you can get reading about musclebound dudes
>in long johns punching each other through walls)
>
>but there IS a certain feeling of comfort and happiness i find
>reading and talking about comics... a certain safety of going
>back to a purer, simpler time in my life

It's not like I come home from work and start running around the house in my underoos or anything. But I guess there's still that "safety net" quality that comics give me that I just don't get from movies or music.

Everything you just said rings pretty true with me as well. I think what got me thinking along these lines was that "Recommend a Trade" post, which I think lonesome d started, and someone (maybe him) mentioned that he had just gotten married or something like that. I was kinda in the same boat; I've been out of school for a couple years and I'm doing all that "grown up" stuff now. Comics are a nice little escape from that.

That's not the only factor, it's probably not even the biggest factor, but it's there, and I bet a lot of us can relate.




  

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10. "Let me just say, I love PTP"
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Anyplace where I can talk comics and porn is alright by me lol

  

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12. "LOL bascally"
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16. "I Fell In Love With A Girl"
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I was collectiong right up until college. I started dating this girl in Queens and was spending every weekend going back to Long Island or to Queens to see this girl so I couldn't look her in the eyes and tell her the reason I wasn't coming is because there were three variant covers of Spawn #25 so I just went cold turkey and stopped buying altogether (although I would go into a comic shop every once and awhile and see what was going on)

A year after we broke up and I was all depressed and shit, my friend told me about X-Men #25/Wolverine #75 when Wolverine got his claws pulled out and that was the first comic I bought in threee years.

Then my junior and senior year roommate also collected comics and it was on again. He got me into all the DC stuff I didn't read before. We would alternate so neither of us bought the same comics.

And I never looked back.

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45. "thats hilarious"
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>I was collectiong right up until college. I started dating
>this girl in Queens and was spending every weekend going back
>to Long Island or to Queens to see this girl so I couldn't
>look her in the eyes and tell her the reason I wasn't coming
>is because there were three variant covers of Spawn #25 so I
>just went cold turkey and stopped buying altogether (although
>I would go into a comic shop every once and awhile and see
>what was going on)

thats how brody should've broke up with "brenda" in mallrats

  

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19. "i pretty much know WHEN i stopped"
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Tue Nov-01-05 04:19 PM by AFKAP_of_Darkness

  

          

but it’s hard for me to determine exactly WHY.

when was late 1993/94 when i came back to America. my comic reading experience in Nigeria had been very different: for one thing, we didn’t have comic book stores then. so you just went to a supermarket or bookstore or wherever and picked up whatever comics you could… you were never sure they were gonna have the next issue the following month, so you tried your best to find people who had the issues you didn’t have, and trade with them (or in my case, buy them off them since i didn’t like to part with any of my comics)

this gave comics fandom a certain energy… you were constantly trying to keep up, so you were always communing with other fans, filling each other in on plotlines and trying to find yet more fans to commune with. i think i became addicted to this paradigm; it became part of my concept of reading comics

when i came to the States and went to comic stores for the first time, it was just sensory overload. for the first time, every comic i wanted was at my fingertips: not just the next issue, but all the past issues going back 20, 30 years too. and i quickly realized that i could not afford to buy them all… hell, i didn’t even have the time to READ them all.

but as it turned out, i didn’t even WANT to read them all. it was like i arrived in America at the exact moment that the comics industry started losing their minds. this was the dawn of the Image era, and there were hundreds of new titles from companies i had never even heard of, and they were all dark, ultra-violent with Rob Liefeld-influenced artwork.

i HATED Image with a passion and refused to touch any of their books. the Image influence had started rubbing off on Marvel too, so i decided to stop reading Marvels.

meanwhile, DC was acting funny-style… The Death of Superman seemed cynical and exploitative to me and they were royally fucking up my favorite comic book character with this Knightfall business.

another thing that discouraged me from mainstream comics and the comics scene was actually meeting comics FANS. back in Nigeria, comic reading was not really considered a cool thing to do if you were older than, say, 14 but it didn’t necessarily stop you from getting pussy. most of our comics fans were nowhere near the arrested development cases i was meeting in comic stores here, and i knew i didn’t want to be included in any scene they were a part of

so i stuck with Vertigo, buying just about anything that was written by a Brit, had surreal artwork and a photo-collage cover. plus, Vertigos were easier to follow because they were a lot more arc-driven than other comics of the day.

i was still interested in breaking into comics and i had run into writer Tom Sniegowski at a comic store, and he told me to try submitting to smaller presses like Caliber. i picked up a few Caliber books but found them somewhat amateurish

i joined the military, went to basic training, came back to no job… i was so broke i could barely make rent or eat decent meals, so comics were out of the question. i could still scrape together enough to keep up with Hellblazer (until Garth Ennis’s run ended) and Love & Rockets (since it came out so seldomly). i had stopped following Sandman halfway through the penultimate arc “The Kindly Ones” since that was one of the first books to be collected on a regular basis, so i decided i would just cop the trades when i was flush

anyway, i never left comics completely… through the 90s i continued to read Preacher and just about everything Alan Moore wrote, and some other Vertigo titles like 100 Bullets… but i never went anywhere NEAR the superhero section.

hell, there were times i’d see comic book posts here on OKP and try to join in based on my past knowledge, and i realized that i was hopelessly out of touch. i didn’t even know the majority of creators working in the industry at present, let alone what was going on in the stories

that changed earlier this year. two things happened:

1. i went to the comic store and realized i had nothing to read. Preacher was long gone… Alan Moore was walking away from his ABC titles. i didn’t feel like reading Ennis’s Punisher anymore… but i didn’t feel like leaving empty-handed. so i went to the “Mature” shelf and tried to find some Vertigo stuff i hadn’t read. couldn’t find anything…

what i DID find was the TPB of Powers: “Who Killed Retro Girl?” i had seen it around for a while and was intrigued by the cartoony art and dramatic layouts, but i always thought the trade was too expensive to experiment with. i was also leery about the fact that it was an Image book.

but i was interested in this Bendis dude… i remembered his name from the cheap-ass Caliber comics i bought in the early 90s and was intrigued that he had finally made the big time. so whatever… i picked it up. and then i picked up the next Powers trade. and the next. and the next…

because Bendis writes so many titles, my interest in him plunged me back into the comics world… i found that he was writing Daredevil (i had actually bought the first two issues of his run way back when – but only for the art. and i never read them) so i started reading that. i noticed cats were talking about him in PTP. him and some dude named JMS. also another guy named Geoff Johns who appeared to be DC’s equivalent of Bendis, writing every single title in the line.

long story short, i was back in again.

oh yeah… i said two things happened. the other thing happened roughly at the same time… i was too early to catch a flight this past February, so i walked around downtown Boston a bit… there’s this store here called Newbury Comics. it’s actually more of a record store and hip boutique than a comic store at this point, but they still have a lot of good stuff. they have these shelves full of marked-down trades and GNs, so i started browsing and i ended up picking up $40 worth of stuff. then they started putting out quarter bins and i did a lot of catching up there.

and of course, like everybody else, i can’t overstate the importance of Wikipedia

i always say that the funny thing is: Image comics chased me away 10 years ago... and it was Image that kinda led to me coming back. and these days, when i walk into the store not knowing what i'm gonna buy that day, it's usually the Image shelf i go to first!

EDIT: sheeeit... this post is long as fuck! i didn't realize how much i was rambling. just feeling nostalgic, i guess! lol

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36. "...like riding a bicycle"
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>when was late 1993/94 when i came back to America. my comic
>reading experience in Nigeria had been very different: for one
>thing, we didn’t have comic book stores then. so you just went
>to a supermarket or bookstore or wherever and picked up
>whatever comics you could… you were never sure they were gonna
>have the next issue the following month, so you tried your
>best to find people who had the issues you didn’t have, and
>trade with them (or in my case, buy them off them since i
>didn’t like to part with any of my comics)

Your Nigerian comic reading experience sounds almost exactly like my rural Louisiana comic reading experience. I don't know why that's funny to me, but it is.

>this gave comics fandom a certain energy… you were constantly
>trying to keep up, so you were always communing with other
>fans, filling each other in on plotlines and trying to find
>yet more fans to commune with. i think i became addicted to
>this paradigm; it became part of my concept of reading comics

Yeah, man. As much as comic book fans are sort of portrayed as these isolated outcasts, the whole thing has always had a communal aspect to it for me. I hardly touched a comic throughout high school and college- I also hardly ran into any other comic fans. Definitely not a coincidence. A big part of comics for me is the discussion, the speculating... just communicating in general. Another good thing about the web- No matter what your tastes, you're guaranteed to find someone else out there reading your books. The downside of all these message boards and news sites is that comics have kind of lost some of that old timey masturbatory charm. Sigh.

>when i came to the States and went to comic stores for the
>first time, it was just sensory overload. for the first time,
>every comic i wanted was at my fingertips: not just the next
>issue, but all the past issues going back 20, 30 years too.
>and i quickly realized that i could not afford to buy them
>all… hell, i didn’t even have the time to READ them all.

And multiple copies of the same issue! That alone was enough to blow my mind.
"Do you have the new X-Force?"
"I think we have 6 or 7 copies left"
"Wha?!"

>because Bendis writes so many titles, my interest in him
>plunged me back into the comics world… i found that he was
>writing Daredevil (i had actually bought the first two issues
>of his run way back when – but only for the art. and i never
>read them) so i started reading that. i noticed cats were
>talking about him in PTP. him and some dude named JMS. also
>another guy named Geoff Johns who appeared to be DC’s
>equivalent of Bendis, writing every single title in the line.

Just from lurking the PTP posts, I thought I'd *never* be able to keep up with all the names being dropped. So many new writers and artists that I had never heard of. But then I figured out that it was pretty much just 4 or 5 dudes writing all the "it" books so it wasn't all that difficult.

>i always say that the funny thing is: Image comics chased me
>away 10 years ago... and it was Image that kinda led to me
>coming back. and these days, when i walk into the store not
>knowing what i'm gonna buy that day, it's usually the Image
>shelf i go to first!

Even though I was an Image head for a minute there, I did have many years to reflect over the shittiness of those comics. And yeah, I was pretty reluctant to pick up anything Image or even Wildstorm for a while there myself. But they seem to have fleshed out a bit and become honest to goodness comic publishers. Good for them.

  

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20. "How I got out..."
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I dunno, it was a childhood habit, like age seven to 11. I had a babysitter who was pretty serious about comics, and so I read all the Batman Returns and Year One and so forth that came out around then.

A few years ago, I picked up Jimmy Corrigan, and it blew my mind. I also read "Understanding Comics," which I really enjoyed.

Unfortunately, the super-hero comics subculture is just too nerdy for me (no offense, dudes, but I'm sure you recognize it). And the alt-comics subculture is often too nerdy in a different way -- dedicated to woe-is-me navelgazing.

So I have a lot of respect for the power of the medium, but I pick my spots.

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25. "I left when Power of Shazam! got boring"
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I came back when I found out what DC had done with Black Adam between 98 and now.

  

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28. "never really quit"
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I stopped for about three months when I first moved out from my parents...but once I had the cash to waste I caught up on everything I missed.

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29. "a book store was closing and i asked..."
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'ya'll got comics?...'

he pointed to a big ass box of comics. and said 'Five Bucks to get that mess outta here'
my brother and i lugged that big ass box home.
the rest is history.

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30. "RE: how did you get BACK into comic books?"
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I left because I entered college. I was no longer close to a comic book store, making new purchases inconvenient, and since my disposable income became more tight, my ability to buy new comics decreased anyway. Plus, w/ the size of dorm rooms, I didn't have space to store anything anymore.

I don't think that would have been as decisive if the quality of comics were still high, though. I read almost everything, and there was a point where the storylines became repetitive and amateurishly written, and the art stopped interesting me. So I think that had a lot to do with it as well.

What got me back into things was Morrison's run on the X-men. A friend of mine who was still a reader told me about the new things Morrison was trying to do with the characters, and it pulled me back in. I'd say that it was his run, and Bendis' work on Daredevil that encouraged me to be a regular reader again.

The funny thing is, I still feel like I'm on the precipice about reading them. The older I get, the more critical I become, especially w/ the cape books. On one hand, DC has become so insular that even though I can still follow it, I can't possibly recommend any of their books to anyone else. On the other, Marvel has fallen into the regrettable practice of using deux ex machina to solve perceived editorial mistakes, which I think destroys the integrity of the story. So, in the end, five years from now, I doubt that I'll be reading anything. Especially anything mainstream.

  

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33. "RE: how did you get BACK into comic books?"
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I left post the Age of Apocalypse arc i just think the lack of continuity in stories and the number of crossovers took its toll on me - plus the fact i felt i was too old to read stories about superheroes, aliens etc.

I've recently got back into them via the DC/Vertigo lines such as 100 Bullets which while being nihilistic in its approach it also conveys an air of realism in the characters not conveyed in my previous reads.

  

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32. "These three titles got me back:"
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1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Knight_Returns


2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maus_%28comics%29


3. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madman


Thus my fate was sealed, and I haven't left since.


I guess the reason I left was because I thought I had outgrown comics, without realizing that there was tons of brilliant material out there that would expand my mind into places I'd had no idea even existed.

The above three titles were my first steps into that great, new world.

  

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39. "Madman was GREAT."
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I haven't thought about that book in forever. Thanks for the reminder.

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34. "great post afkap"
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I got back into comics around the time superhero movies started blowing up the box office. All of a sudden it was commonplace to talk about X-Men continuity with just about anyone. Everyone was excited about the Spiderman movies. Cats were asking me who Gwen Stacey was...people who never even read the books were complaining about Rogue/Anna Paquin's age, etc.

The conversations brought on a wave of nostalgia. Not to mention the effects of watching the movies themselves (whether they were good or not never really mattered, they served their purpose in rekindling my love for the characters).

I started by copping some of the Marvel Essential series. They were the cheapest and the thickest -- cheap reading for the washroom I rationalized.

From there it just grew like cancer. The more I went to the shop to pick up old trades the more things started to catch my eye. I started copping graphic novels that I never got around to reading back in the day. I bought From Hell, some Sandman, some Frank Miller Daredevil.

I started hearing noise about newer stuff. League of Extraordinary Gentlemen? The Ultimates?

The Comic Book Guy (who I think recognizes me from my younger days though he never brings up the subject) started noticing the things I was buying and recommended some recent series for me to check out. I was skeptical of the sales pitch, as I am of all sales pitches. But eventually curiosity bit and I got swallowed. I took his recommendations of newer writers: Millar, Bendis, Johns.

It was around this time that I started to notice the comic posts popping up here, when it was the Reviews board. I lurked, took recommendations, filled in the continuity gaps where I could.

From there it's all been a matter of refinement. I started with a pull list that resembled my one from years ago, and since then it's changed a lot. I'm also still going back and reading a lot of things I should have read when they came out. That yousendit thread that happened awhile ago was invaluable.

Why'd I stop in the first place? Be back later...

peace.

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35. "yeah, i'd like to know when and why you stopped"
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it's funny how many people have been drawn back by the recent wave of superhero movies... i guess they worked after all!

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37. "My name is Miles, and I....read comic books."
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I went through my comic book phase like most kids did I guess, staked out the shop, made friends with the owners (a lesbian couple, actually...they were cool as shit, it was an old hippy bookstore-slash-comic shop), and read mostly superheroes....

I fell off when I went to college, for mostly the same reasons listed by others; I just wasn't as into them + the hassle of finding a new shop in a new town = stopped reading. By the end though, the only monthlies I really followed were Preacher, Invisibles, and the Savage Dragon, so it wasn't that big of a deal to quit. Whenever I'd go home I'd invariably re-read my old books, but new ones never really came into the mix.

When I graduated college I moved to LA, and I had a neighbor who moved there like a month after I did. A really cool guy, he initially used to come over to watch the Sopranos on my roommate's bigass TV, and we just got along. Turned out he wrote and drew his own comics, and actually has a pretty decent-sized underground following....anybody know Jim Mahfood? He's done his own stuff (Girl Scouts), some music stuff (he did the comic that came with Felt 2, the MURS/Atmosphere album), and has even done some Marvel books with people like Bendis and whatnot...but enough of that shit. Hanging out with him got me back into it; he'd give me copies of all his books, plus turn me on to the cooler underground stuff that was going on, and it was really nice to know someone that could bring me up to speed on what I'd missed the past 4 years (you mean there's only been 2 more issues of Optic Nerve?)...

Since then, I haven't gotten into it as deep as I was before, but I still hit up a shop now and again. I've found that I mostly buy trades now; it's much more appealing to me now to be able to read long stories all at once, rather than waiting for nuggets to be parceled out in monthly increments. The only book I'd say I follow with any regularity is 100 Bullets, and I still just wait for trades with that, too. I tried superheroes again, but I dunno, it all just seemed so damn silly to me. No disrespect to those that enjoy them, obviously, but I dunno, I think Watchmen wrecked me for tights for the rest of my life...I just can't enjoy it. The plus side is I can catch up on all the good stuff I missed during my absence, and have since "discovered" good shit like Sam Keith's 4 Women, Batman: The Long Halloween, and The Dark Knight Returns (that's the newer one, right? I've heard it caught a lot of negative flack, but fuck it, I liked it).

So that's where I'm at now. I'd like to think my comics love swelled, then shrunk, and has now come back to a much more manageable level. I no longer stake out shops every Wednesday, but I'd like to think I keep an eye out for the cooler shit that's out there. Feels like comics have assumed their place as just one artistic medium out of many that I enjoy. Damn, that was long. Thanks for making me remember this stuff....

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38. "oh shit..you hung out with Jim Mahfood!"
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Very cool my man. Very cool indeed.

  

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41. "Mahfood is one of my heroes"
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now that i'm starting to draw again, i steal his stuff all the time

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44. "You ever check out Evan Dorkin?"
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Jim's stuff reminds me of his somewhat. He did Milk & Cheese, which is, frankly, the funniest book ever....

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42. "Yeah, he's still a good friend, actually."
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It was funny, being out of comics, when I met him, it was no biggie....then the more I talked to folks, I started to realize he had a name for himself. A cool, cool, cool dude. Through him I've met some other cool cats, Dave Crosland, Scott Morse...some other folks.

SHAMELESS PLUG:

Jim n' I did a video for Zion I a year or so ago. Check it out:

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Top row, third from the left....

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40. "i was a preteen in the early 90s"
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and i got into comics at the beginning of the boom, like 91, the x-men generated boom.

i stopped collecting by '93. didn't last long at all.

i blame the rapid decline of comics during this time and my rapid maturity due to puberty. opposing trends. also notable, around this time i moved from Vegas (which has a healthy amount of comicshops) back to SoufCent (which has none, and i wasn't finna go to the whiteboy hoods to cop).

i got back into comics in 2002, when graphic novels started gettin more popular (i'm so trendy). at first i came back into it not fuckin with the superhero genre, but lately i've gravitated toward superhero classics i was too young to catch the first time around (lots of moore and miller). i got into comics on the wrong side of the 80s pretty much.

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43. "RE: how did you get BACK into comic books?"
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Quit before I went into high school, it was better to spend the little money I had on movies, weed and beer... and videogames. I guess becoming less nerdy wasn't really a priority.
Plus they were pretty weak at the time.
I got back in around the time Hellboy was coming out. I downloaded them all, loved them. Then i did the same with Preacher and read the whole series in a day. Kavalier & Klay got me re-intertested in superheroes. I probably stuck with trades for a year until the comic book posts and a good friend of mine getting into them as well pulled me into buying them weekly.

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46. "i stopped because sports/sportscards were my life after"
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elementry school. then sports cards left a little before highschool and then i was just too "cool" or i guess i had better stuff to do.

then a about a month or two ago i read some posts here and got curious. found some old issues, lots of arcs that were never completed and most importantly my frank miller wolverine mini series TPB.

and now im back to reading them again.

another reason i stopped was because of the confusing ass crossovers and different volumes and shit. it just got too confusing and expensive to go out and collect everything. all crossovers are for is to sell more issues of shit that normally doesnt sell.

but now with the internet and shit its alot easier to follow everything(wikipedia).

also i think the "ultiverse" is the best thing marvel has done(for me atleast). everythings got a fresh start. theres some good writers involved. they seem to not be rushing anything so nothing begins sloppily(i havent seen hulk in spiderman, x-men, or FF4 yet. im not sure if he appeared in the Ultimates cuz i think thor and cap america are fags.....even tho thor's kinda cool in the ultiverse)

daredevil is only in two miniseries and some little cameos.

it seems more planned out and bendis(who has his hands in all the titles) seems to be doing a good job in my opinion.

whatever happened to the artists "the brothers hildebrand" or whatever. i remember they used to do covers and stuff like that.

  

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47. "why'd i leave?"
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couldn't justify the expense

(think comics are expensive in the states? try converting that price to aussie dollars)

why'd i come back?

dcp, how shall i explain it..

  

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