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I guess that's the problem with message boards. You can't tell if someone is joking or if they really are a gigantic asshole. Your second post seems to constantly concede that you were only joking, and didn't mean much of anything you said. Which is fine. I have no problem with joking. But there are people who really do think like that, and I had no way of knowing which kind you were.
So, thus the antagonistic posts back and forth.
>I don't even know what I'm talking about 1/3 of the time.
Clearly. haha just joking.
>To be absolutely 100% honest...it was a joke. I don't REALLY
>think that I'm better, or smarter, or more hung (even though I
>probably am) than anyone else because of a TV show. I actually
>thought that was ludicrous enough to be transparently jokey.
Normally it would be, but on the internets... you never know.
>But since thats the part of my rambling incoherence that
>apparently made enough sense for you to respond to,
Well, I wasn't going to respond to all that stuff about defenders of the UK version, because it obviously didn't apply to me.
> but it doesn't exactly yell out,
>>"Brilliant guy here!"
>
>Yes it does. It sounds that barbaric YAWLP from the
>mountainside to the hills and valleys below. You can't argue
>that. It's science. Echo science.
This was funny.
>>Yes, you are an elitist prick, you got that part right.
>
>Again, joke. But if you wanna know why I chose to joke that
>way it was because of comments like this from your
>mcdeezdoppleganger (okay wait...is that you? forgive my
>unintelligible ramblings but the names are oh-so similar):
We get mixed up sometimes.
>"What's even worse is the elitist attitude that those who
>actually enjoy the british version come at you with when you
>explain why their favorite version is actually just a
>glorified steamy pile compared to the american version"
>
>I mean, I KNOW I don't make sense sometimes...but that comment
>there...I can't decide if its more ironical than hypocritical.
I noticed that too. I think that may have been the funniest comment in this entire thread. I just wasn't sure if he was being cheeky, or if he really didn't realize how hypocritical that was.
>But the best part is a reply later when he said:
>
>"What I said supports my opinion, and does nothing to Display
>an "elitist attitude" at all..."
>
>Remember, what he "said" was:
>
>"What's even worse is the elitist attitude that those who
>actually enjoy the british version come at you with when you
>explain why their favorite version is actually just a
>glorified steamy pile compared to the american version"
>
>Dude flat out gave his opinion, and then said that his opinion
>supports his opinion. Wow. Also, he's absolutely
>correct...there isnt' even a whiffle of "elitism" is saying
>that you "explain" to someone why their "favorite version is
>actually just a glorified steamy pile" when compared to
>something he likes. That's quite humble actually. Almost
>deferential. He/You(?) is most definitely un-elitist.
Yep, pretty funny. Again though, it's possible he was being intentionally ironic.
I actually agree with pretty much all you just said. But then again, mcdeezjawns is a different person and I thought his post was a bit much myself. It was pretty funny though.
>" ...There is nothing elitist in saying that the british
>version isnt funny... However, there is an elitist attitude in
>all of you who claim that the people who think it is unfunny
>"dont get it"....We get it...and we think it is boring
>compared to the American version"
>
>All I have to say about this part is that all of us who like
>TOBBC HATE generalizations. Every single one of us.
Generalizations are bad. Most people don't like them. But most people still use them. Most everyone in this post is using them.
>>Most of the rest of your post is just convoluted babbling
>that
>>no one gives a shit about. I suspect you just like to hear
>>yourself type. But I have a few more responses.
>
>Now you're just being mean. And it hurts. And I don't like
>hearing myself type. I mean...I don't NOT like it. I'm pretty
>much indifferent about the whole thing. Its just typing. Why
>would you think I like that one way or the other? You know
>what sound I do like? A child's laughter. And farts.
Well, this was the part of "defenders of the UK version" and I had no interest in it. I actually do like the sound of typing - not specifically my own, but pretty much any relatively fast typing. And I also like the sound of laughter - not exclusively children's laughter, but all kinds, except the snorting or cackling varieties. And farts are often funny, but depending on whose they are and how they smell, the humor in the sound is outweighed by the unpleasantness.
>>This is all opinion, and it is also all wrong. lol
>>Of course, I am operating on only one episode of the BBC
>>version, but that episode was inferior IMO to every single
>>episode of the US Office.
>>At least you admit that the BBC version is not funnier than
>>the US. Or rather, you don't claim that it is funnier.
>
>Well see, shit...I didn't know you were un-elitistly
>condescending your generalizations to all of us from such an
>enlightened position.
I didn't know I was being condescending. I stated it was my opinion vs other people's. Of course I hold my OWN opinion in higher regard than anyone else's, because it's my own opinion! I would hope everyone does the same, because if you ever value someone else's opinion more than your own, you're in trouble.
>Hellfire! You say you saw a whole one of
>TOBBC??!? Damn it all then, I can't hope to change your mind!
I saw one and wasn't motivated for a second. If my friend with Tivo offered me another and I had nothing better to do, I'd probably watch. Maybe I'll try to see magical episode # 4.
>You've done your homework! I bet you have a bumper sticker
>that says "Minds are like parachutes: they only function when
>opened". Because you totally seem like someone who would have
>a bumper sticker!
I hate bumper stickers, actually.
>>I thought you said you were smart? Of course we can argue
>it.
>>And it's nothing even remotely similar to science.
>
>There you go again, taking the hardest possible angle to argue
>and just nailing the point home! You, once again, are
>correct...its not science at all! I made that part up!! Fuckin
>shit, I thought I'd get one by you!! Now I KNOW you have a
>bumper sticker!
Yeah, I figured that part would get attacked, but sometimes certain phrases annoy me even though I know they aren't meant literally.
>>Never saw it. Maybe this would have been the one to catch.
>
>No...you've done quite enough. What more could people ask of
>you? You've watched a whole episode, you don't have the 30
>minutes to go wasting on a show you've already spent 30
>minutes on before deciding its horrible, the US version is far
>superior, and that you'll argue the point whenever you can!
>Fuck man....I mean 30 whole menudos!
Yeah, I know, 30 minutes. So much I could have accomplished!
>>No, I think you probably like a show that appeals to you,
>and
>>nothing's wrong with that. I don't have this disdain for UK
>>Office fans that you seem to have for fans of the US
>version.
>>I'm bigger than that. You like it, you watch it. It doesn't
>>matter to me if you're missing out on a better show in the
>US
>>version.
>
>I was going to quizzically ask you why you thought I had a
>disdain for fans of the US show, because I don't. But then i
>remember that you're still firmly planted on the righteous
>side of refusing to bow down to obviously ridiculous
>arguments. I don't hate people who like TONBC better than
>TOBBC. I don't think I'm smarter than anyone who likes TONBC
>better than TOBBC. I know I previously said I do but I was
>lying. Now I'm telling the truth.
How was I to know? There were statements in your post that suggested you hated the fans of the US version.
>Oh!! and I also have come to a conclusion and decided you and
>mcdeezjawns are NOT the same person. But you'll probably
>criticize my writing style and call me fatty or something.
>Dick.
No, see I don't do that.
>>On OKP maybe. Not in the real world. I know 2 people in real
>>life who like the BBC version. Almost everyone I know who's
>>around my age (29) watches the US version and loves it.
>Vocal
>>majority? Only on OKP.
>
>Shenanigans!! I call Shenanigans. Happy as I am for you and
>your friends aged 27-31 that you have all found a TV to watch
>and love I must take umbrage with your qualifier of "only on
>OKP". Until you and I, and your cabal of
>almost-middle-aged-TONBC-watchin-and-lovin pals, all sit down
>in real life and talk this out then "only on OKP is what we're
>all going to have to settle for. And "only on OKP" its just
>you and like 4 others who argue TOBBC << TONBC. Hey wait a
>second though...unless you know like 20 million people around
>your age (29), then how does your little "Carrell Clique"
>constitute a majority. That's fuzzy math. Downright
>peach-faced.
The fact that one is a UK show and one is a US show is obviously a factor. Which show do Brits prefer? I'd probably go ahead and say the UK version. Which show do Americans prefer? I'm thinking the US version. Hey, guess what? I'm American and I prefer the US version.
I think this could be supported by TV ratings, but that's not really fair given that the UK version is only available on cable TV and the US version is broadcast. So it wins in # of viewers by default.
My general point was, the US version certainly seems more popular to me in the real world. I think it appeals to Americans more than the UK version. Perhaps instead of "only on OKP" I should have said, "only on OKP and in the UK."
>>No, I don't really think that. I just think you're missing
>out
>>on a better show.
>
>Okay, maybe you don't really think that but someone somewhere
>above, or in one of the other baker's dozen posts on this
>debate, said that the only reason people like it is because
>its cool to be anti-American or some other jingoistic
>horseshit. Maybe it was mcdeezLeeGreenwood'snutsacks or
>someone.
It wasn't me. I'm sure there are plenty of valid reasons to love the UK version, it just didn't appeal as much to me.
>Here's an assumption...I dunno if this is accurate or not, its
>just a shot in the dark here...but I think it REALLY stuck in
>your craw that I said I had no problems with thinking people
>stupid if they liked TONBC >> TOBBC, you brought it up enough.
>Just a guess. Maybe a guesstimate? I'm just thinking that it
>really bothered you. Had you not brought it up 4 times maybe
>I'd think differently. Maybe.
That was definitely the thing that made me think you were an arrogant prick. It didn't really bother me, it just made me want to respond, because as you've admitted, it was a ridiculous statement.
Do I need to tell you again that
>"dems just jokes". I don't really mean it. Okay? I promise.
I like jokes, it just helps if they're funny.
>And was it really so incoherent that you totally missed how I
>mostly attacked people defending TOBBC? Was it really so
>incoherent that you could only respond to one part over and
>over?
I didn't want to respond to things that didn't apply to me.
> You can go ahead and scratch ONE person around your age (29)
>off your friends list pal!!
You'll be missed. (Clerks reference)
>>Regardless of which show is better, you are a huge asshole.
>
>Stop. It hurts. Seriously.
See, I can't tell when you're joking.
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