Anime: if it wasn't pretty, that shit would bore me.

I can safely say that The Chronicles of Riddick was the Worst Movie of 2004.

The Seven Samurai: it's a great movie, but too fucking long. I'm almost never gonna be in the mindstate to watch a meticulously paced 3 1/2 hour movie.

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>Anime: if it wasn't pretty, that shit would bore me.

don't forget the soundtracks and the well-thought-out storylines (for the anime built around the already-established manga)

>The Seven Samurai: it's a great movie, but too fucking long.
>I'm almost never gonna be in the mindstate to watch a
>meticulously paced 3 1/2 hour movie.

ouch man. good luck with this one.

>Add on.

Oldboy is overrated. it's a great flick, but no damn 8.5 on the imdb scale.

Anna Kournikova is overrated. Sharapova has replaced her and a lot of people don't even know it.

that Superbowl GoDaddy.com commercial was boring. so was the full version on the website.
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1. Anime is pretty and still bores me.

2. I think M. Night Shyamalan gets hated on. I think he's a decent director and story teller who's following in the footsteps of Hitchcock and The Twilight Zone. The Village was a good movie. (For the purpose of this post let's pretend Signs never happened, though)

3. Napoleon Dynamite was neither the worst movie ever nor the best movie ever, but rather fell somewhere in between.

4. Godfather 3 wasn't *that* bad.

5. National Treasure, on the other hand, was a real stinker.

>2. I think M. Night Shyamalan gets hated on. I think he's a
>decent director and story teller who's following in the
>footsteps of Hitchcock and The Twilight Zone. The Village was
>a good movie. (For the purpose of this post let's pretend
>Signs never happened, though)

Signs was better than The Village.

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>3. Napoleon Dynamite was neither the worst movie ever nor the
>best movie ever, but rather fell somewhere in between.

It was pretty bad though.

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>Signs was better than The Village.

Oh yeah? Well then... I'll see your "Signs was better than The Village" and raise you a "Hitler was just misunderstood"

Take that!

Signs was better than The Village though.

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>3. Napoleon Dynamite was neither the worst movie ever nor the
>best movie ever, but rather fell somewhere in between.

didn't think much of it (uncle rico was hilarious though). I'll have check it one more time. alot of comedies don't seem to hit me until the second time around. I'm slow like that.

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But I'm tryin to keep this post in the realm of movies/TV. I agree though.

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Virgin Suicides was good too. I was all set to support her, as she is another female filmmaker, and we need more of those, but many part of the film were straight up offensive, and I know a lot of Japanese folks had problems with it.

though bill murray will always be incredible

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immediately after i posted it i thought "yeah, but what does that have to do with anything?"

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not nearly as many as America has made and continues to make

but you are TOTALLY wrong about this

>not nearly as many as America has made and continues to make

hell, just see their depictions of black people in their manga... they still use racist conventions that most American media left behind in the 1960s

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this film perpetuates bullshit stereotypes of the japanese and makes them look like fools in their own fuckin country no less, while the white americans act composed confused by the 'silly' behavior these strange people possess. the condescension is subtle, but most certainly there none the less. Western (as in 'white'), not cowboys and indians) movies do this type of thing alllllll the time

lock n loll? japanese women who really want to have sex, but pretend not to???? that shit is the oldest stuff in the world. even if this was her attempt at exaggerating Bill Murray and Scarlett's isolation in the country, shes smart enough not to resort to such offensive tactics... or maybe shes not

I just thought it was an unfunny scene, not a stereotype. I've never heard that one before, that might just be me.

As for "lock n loll"...would it have been okay if he said "rock n roll"? Is the idea of him liking rock n roll racist, or the Ls for Rs, cuz it's not like the latter is an unsubstantiated stereotype. Or was it the combo of both? I'm just trying to see where you're coming from.

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and even though it may be true, it has always been portrayed in a negative light. It becomes racist in its exaggeration, and *emphasis*. attention was placed on that scene because 'its funny' the way japanese people say rs like ls 'is funny'. The scene was meant to be humorous, which is why it was offensive. If Bill Murray had just been having a regular conversation with a Japanese man and he had casually said the term 'rock n roll' as he pronounced it, it would not have been so offsensive. Most black folks have full lips, most asian folks have almond eyes, this is the truth, but when we see old caricatures of the two, we dont accept them as being plain old factual, because they are meant to be humorous implying their inferiority to whites. its racist and just another example of bullshit western condescension

that the movie's not racist but Bill Murray's character is?

I mean, Gene Hackman said racist shit in The Royal Tenenbaums, but I didn't think that was a racist movie.

I see where you're coming from though.

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not that he's exactly racist, but he's entirely isolated before he even gets to Japan and he can't see past the culture shock. That's the perspective of the film.

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a more talented filmmaker could have found better ways of empahsizing that isolation, as i said before. the way she *tried* to do it was a cop out and ignorant

I really don't think it's racist, it emphasizes the otherness of Japanese culture from un-informed western eyes very effectively.

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>not that he's exactly racist, but he's entirely isolated before he even gets to Japan and he >can't see past the culture shock. That's the perspective of the film.

Co-sign with Dr. No. "Racist" is a bit too harsh a term. Not to defend the behavior but the fact is that it does exist and I thought Coppola did a decent job portraying it. And you gotta keep in mind that this movie isn't setting out to be told objectively. Don't shoot the messenger, you dig?

>a more talented filmmaker could have found better ways of
>empahsizing that isolation, as i said before.

Well...obviously, if they are more talented then that suggests they'd be better at doing stuff. What filmmakers did you have in mind, specifically? And what ways do you think she could have portrayed their culture shock, from their point of view, without appearing to be at least a little condescending and somewhat racist?


>the way she *tried* to do it was a cop out and ignorant

Well, you could argue that such ethnocentricity is a cop out and ignorant, so maybe Copolla's approach was dead on.

But the whole idea of this thread is that these are unpopular opinions, so I don't think any of us should feel the need to justify our feelings to the opposition.

i got into an argument with one of my friendsover this. He claimed that pagoda was funny because he was *pagoda*. I said i thought pagoda was a racist character because the humor is derived from the fact that he is indian, he is foregin, and in a lot of movies foreign= funny. he is also royal's silent indian servant. blatant. but the movie itself was not racist

that Pagoda doesn't have to serve Royal, if anything Pagoda is using him just as much.

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implying that pagoda (what a stupid, insulting name also) *wants* to blindly serve this white man

Pagoda is going along with Royal for the money and since Royal stays with Pagoda after he stabs him he isn't exactly hired help. And every character in the film has a stupid name.

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>i got into an argument with one of my friendsover this. He
>claimed that pagoda was funny because he was *pagoda*. I said
>i thought pagoda was a racist character because the humor is
>derived from the fact that he is indian, he is foregin, and in
>a lot of movies foreign= funny. he is also royal's silent
>indian servant. blatant. but the movie itself was not racist

im sorry..but i have to say that foreign = funny is something thats been taken for granted for a long long time. and i dont think its wrong, because its funny. old people are funny, little kids are cute and funny, animals are funny..these are just standards...does it smack of racism and xenophobia? maybe, but i dont think it has to, and to exploit these situations or archetypes for comedic effect is hardly racist, imo.

to me, being racist is being racist. its like a year or two ago people kept getting upset by the "big black guy that's surprispingly intelligent and well-spoken" type that kept showing up in comedies claiming its racist. well maybe it was in certain cases, but i think people should be upset by the laziness and recycling of the type, in terms of artistic invention or lack thereof, more than by any racist statement being made.

so the lock n loll isnt bad because its racist...it isnt...its bad because its played and not funny.

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japanese people are shorter?
they can't distinguish rs from ls?

this is brilliant comedy?

I wouldn't say the Rs and Ls is racist though, since they were actually in Japan, and it's just a fact that east asian languages don't use those sounds so they can't distinguish them (or only use one of them). English speaking people have a similar problem with some other languages... but of course, we'll never know...

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seriously, the apple fell faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar from the tree.

but i enjoyed it for what it was

i.e. setting up binary distinctions between "us" and "them". the same view of culture that justified european occupation of india, and "embracing" asian cultures during the cold war.

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Most of the people I know that went to see it thought it was bad.

I liked it though. But mostly for the same reason I liked Pitch Black - formulaic genre piece designed so that Vin Diesel can act like a badass 80s action hero.

Considering he's really a geeky role playing gamer, that's really damn amusing to me.

I'm saying it's worse than Catwoman.

And Garfield.

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