fire's posts made me think of it. Has anyone seen this movie???

It's got kinda bad acting, but it's too dope.

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Btw, I think it's an excellent movie. Rent it.

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I can't respond to an archived post so I'll respond to this...

That was just a bad movie to me. Ol girl Hav was fine as hell though but LEE PLENTY WAS CORNY AS FUCK!

Maybe if this guy got a real actor to play the part instead of playing himself in his story, it would've been more believable. He was just so smug and irritating. And the looking into the camera and saying 'and really, this is a true story' ARRGH! I hate that shit! Give me a sly look in the camera (like Cube in 'Friday' when he dropped the ice cubes on the floor)not that 'dialog with the camera' shit.

What was up with Hav and 1000 hair do's? Goddamn, she's fine already! Half the budget had to be spent on her hair alone! I hated the scene where she had the 2 hair things drooping down and she kept having to smash them to stay down. All I could think about was that 'special' hair mousse they used in Something About Mary.

I'm not even gonna hate on Lee Plenty, nah fuck it. Dude was too much of a dweeb to pull all those fine honeys. He was sooo fuckin' irritating.

The letter he wrote her was'nt sad it was corny.

WTF was up with the picture of him all beat up in the scrapbook? WTF!!

It was'nt a bad concept (I agree with Tracie Edmunds) I just wish the people who had cameo roles would've actually been the stars of the movie.

Yes Shemar Moore (who sucks) would've been better!

I've been wanting to say this for a long time. Thanks for the post!

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>I can't respond to an archived
>post so I'll respond to
>this...
>
>That was just a bad movie
>to me. Ol girl Hav
>was fine as hell though
>but LEE PLENTY WAS CORNY
>AS FUCK!
Uh uh baby...lee plenty excuse me christopher scott cherot is the jawn...the man wrote the damn thing have some respect!

>Maybe if this guy got a
>real actor to play the
>part instead of playing himself
>in his story, it would've
>been more believable.

He tried to get someone else to play him but it fell through..he had no choice...and who else could be him but him!

He was
>just so smug and irritating.
>And the looking into the
>camera and saying 'and really,
>this is a true story'
>ARRGH! I hate that shit!
>Give me a sly look
>in the camera (like Cube
>in 'Friday' when he dropped
>the ice cubes on the
>floor)not that 'dialog with the
>camera' shit.

ok....first of all... no matter what csc can act a million times better than ice effin cube. get over it...this is this mans damn story and movie if he wanna talk to the camera let him talk to the camera!

>What was up with Hav and
>1000 hair do's? Goddamn, she's
>fine already! Half the budget
>had to be spent on
>her hair alone!

everyone did their own hair and makeup and clothes. so she had a million and one dues cause she did that shit no one else. the budget was too small for all that.

I hated
>the scene where she had
>the 2 hair things drooping
>down and she kept having
>to smash them to stay
>down. All I could think
>about was that 'special' hair
>mousse they used in Something
>About Mary.
>
>I'm not even gonna hate on
>Lee Plenty, nah fuck it.
>Dude was too much of
>a dweeb to pull all
>those fine honeys.

Idiot it's a true story...so he had em all don't hate cause the only reason you pull anyone remotely fly is causa your wack ass show.

He was
>sooo fuckin' irritating.

let me reiterate...he is the jawn

>The letter he wrote her was'nt
>sad it was corny.

That was beautiful damnit. DO you write poetry? do you write? man shut up...

>WTF was up with the picture
>of him all beat up
>in the scrapbook? WTF!!

ok i got wtf? with you...cause i STILL don't understand that one.

>It was'nt a bad concept (I
>agree with Tracie Edmunds) I
>just wish the people who
>had cameo roles would've actually
>been the stars of the
>movie.

it woulda been crap if all those peeps were in it man. it woulda been your usual "usin the same black actors that been in the game for years" ass black movie. I get tired of seein the same damn people on the screen whenever i go to a black film...give newbies some love damn.

>Yes Shemar Moore (who sucks) would've
>been better!

hell no he wouldn't have. he wouldn't have been as funny cool anything as csc was.

>I've been wanting to say this
>for a long time. Thanks
>for the post!

once again mike...bluh to you.

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LEE PLENTY WAS CORNY
>>AS FUCK!

>Uh uh baby...lee plenty excuse me
>christopher scott cherot is the
>jawn...

Right, who am I to judge men?

the man wrote the damn
>thing have some respect!

Just cuz he wrote it? Thats like saying repect me just cuz I'm on the radio!


>>Maybe if this guy got a
>>real actor to play the
>>part instead of playing himself
>>in his story, it would've
>>been more believable.
>
>He tried to get someone else
>to play him but it
>fell through..he had no choice...and
>who else could be him
>but him!

Yeah, whatever. I can tell by all the roles he's had and all the movies he's directed since then that he's a star in the making. Yeah right.


>He was
>>just so smug and irritating.
>>And the looking into the
>>camera and saying 'and really,
>>this is a true story'
>>ARRGH! I hate that shit!
>>Give me a sly look
>>in the camera (like Cube
>>in 'Friday' when he dropped
>>the ice cubes on the
>>floor)not that 'dialog with the
>>camera' shit.
>
>ok....first of all... no matter what
>csc can act a million
>times better than ice effin
>cube. get over it...this is
>this mans damn story and
>movie if he wanna talk
>to the camera let him
>talk to the camera!

I'll just ignore the Ice Cube statement because you actually think this guy is a good actor/director.


>>What was up with Hav and
>>1000 hair do's? Goddamn, she's
>>fine already! Half the budget
>>had to be spent on
>>her hair alone!
>
>everyone did their own hair and
>makeup and clothes. so she
>had a million and one
>dues cause she did that
>shit no one else. the
>budget was too small for
>all that.

Damn, do you have the DVD with the directors cut, deleted scenes and extra dialog from the stars? Ok, she paid to get her own hair done. It was a bit much.

>>I'm not even gonna hate on
>>Lee Plenty, nah fuck it.
>>Dude was too much of
>>a dweeb to pull all
>>those fine honeys.
>
>Idiot it's a true story...so he
>had em all don't hate
>cause the only reason you
>pull anyone remotely fly is
>causa your wack ass show.

Sometimes I forget i'm getting into and argument with a 19 year-old kid, and what you think about me is really irrelevant.

>He was
>>sooo fuckin' irritating.
>
>let me reiterate...he is the jawn

You taste in men is now suspect.

>The letter he wrote her was'nt
>>sad it was corny.
>
>That was beautiful damnit. DO you
>write poetry? do you write?
>man shut up...

I'm not a chef either but wait...*sniff sniff* is that toast burning?


>>WTF was up with the picture
>>of him all beat up
>>in the scrapbook? WTF!!
>
>ok i got wtf? with you...cause
>i STILL don't understand that
>one.

Dont worry the Cliffs Notes version'll be out soon.

>>It was'nt a bad concept (I
>>agree with Tracie Edmunds) I
>>just wish the people who
>>had cameo roles would've actually
>>been the stars of the
>>movie.
>
>it woulda been crap if all
>those peeps were in it
>man. it woulda been your
>usual "usin the same black
>actors that been in the
>game for years" ass black
>movie. I get tired of
>seein the same damn people
>on the screen whenever i
>go to a black film...give
>newbies some love damn.

I would if they could act. You see Nia Long all the time cuz she can fuckin act.

>>Yes Shemar Moore (who sucks) would've
>>been better!
>
>hell no he wouldn't have. he
>wouldn't have been as funny
>cool anything as csc was.


Yeah, cuz he's the Jawn!



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I didn't know there had already been a post devoted to it. It was probably in General Discussion, and I don't go there too often.

Okay Mikelove, I actually agree with most of what you said. There was a lot of sub par stuff going on. But I liked it anyway. there were some really funny parts, and I actually identified with the main character somewhat (struggling writer, smug, etc), and the end was cool as hell.

It was just one of those movies where there are so many reasons not to like it, but I do anyway.

But does anyone know what happened to Christopher Scott Cherot??? (actor/director)

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A) CSC original had someone to play him, but the demanding salary request of the actor caused them to let him go because the budget could not afford to pay him that much......

B) the funniest person was mademoiselle Carolyn....

C) nobody could act,except Hill Harper(Mr. Love 40)

d)well they(the cast) acted better than the charcters of Black Spring Break.....

e) good film, good story line....there was still something missing...

F)I went and saw this movie in the theater at regular price......

enough said about that

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Taye Diggs...

i think it was right around his getting that big role in Rent and a year BEFORE his winningthe role as Winston for How Stella Got Her Groove Back...

the woman who was supposed to play Haviland (Chenoa originally signed on to be Bobby, Hav's prep school friend) was supposed to be Veronica Webb...or so i've heard.


both Chenoa and Chris signed on to do the leads cause Taye couldn't take the role and Veronica (or whoever the actress was) flaked out at the last minute...

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I thought it was a good movie. Could have used some better acting but nice story line. Very funny also. I laughed all the way through. I don't know if it was supposed to make me do that but I laughed.

AAAAAAAy...I ain't with that gay ish/ smokey Friday

The funniest part IMHO was when ol boy punched Lee in the stomach. The look on Lee's face as he dropped had me ROLLING!!!!

And is it just me, or did Hill Harper's character look A LOT like Chico DeBarge???

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It was pretty good..
I thought the acting could have been better.
but it was OK..

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It was pretty good..
I thought the acting could have been better.
but it was OK..

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I love this movie! I make all of my friends watch it. The diologue is a bit dated but other than that i think it is clever-the soundtrack is cool too...

I thought it was a pretty decent movie .
I mean the acting wasn't like Emmy award winning BUT.....I still like the movie . It was cute black romantic movie.
but I really need to watch it again because I forget some details.



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Negative, negative, negative. I thought this was one of the worst films I'd seen until this past weekend. I saw Hav Plenty in the theater when it first came out and my friends wanted to walk out within 15 minutes of the film. I tried to give it a chance but it was terrible. The acting sucked and the script was underdeveloped!!! Back to the movie that changed my mind. Saw 'Personals' at Magic Johnson that stars Malik Yoba, Stacy Dash, Sheryl Lee Ralph. Whoa, the movie sucked big time. The concept was cool, but they needed someone else to write it. And you can't say it's because these guys are just starting out. Look at Malcolm Lee!
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I was hesitant to join in this thread, because I didn't want to reign in the spirit of supporting black films. But enough people have admitted to not liking it that I can now jump on the bandwagon.

I don't think I hated it as much, but I didn't see it in the theater - primarily because it didn't look like it would be any good. And it wasn't.

It had some good parts, a couple good lines. But he needed to take that script around the block a few times, work the fat out.

Not that there was nothing to like about it. But overall, it was flat and it had too many dry patches. And too many clichéd characterizations (instead of characters.) And you can't explain away any of the deficiences with the fact that it was low budget. I've seen so much more done on so much less. See "Pi" for a perfect example.

I'll be glad when we can stop being so thrilled to just see "our people" on the screen and finally start holding our movies up to the same standards used for judging all films. Once again, not hating on this filmmaker, but if "Hav Plenty" is all we want, quality-wise, then "Hav Plenty" is all we're gonna get.

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If you ain't seen "Pi", go peep that, man!

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Let me say without any kind of arrogance that I know my shit when it comes to movies. I am, or at least was, a big as film buff as any cat on these boards dammit. Under that, yes, Hav Plenty has bad acting, and rough spots all over, but something about it I still liked. Let me explain.

First, the fact that beneath all the attempts at cynicism and witticism, you saw very clear and obvious shots into CSC's emotions and thoughts. The movie was a 'true story' and yet it was also (as the opening credits read) a "Dream by CSC" or Christopher Scott Cherot, the actor/director/writer/producer. IN REAL LIFE: The movie was shown independently, and at a festival Babyface and his wife saw it and picked it up, with the condition that he fix up the ending, which they thought was too much of a downer--and he did. I think that's why it's a "Dream by CSC" because the only way he could in good conscious distort it was by calling it a dream, whereas it is mostly true with a tacked on ending that mirrors real life. I really got a kick out of this kind of 'art reflecting life reflecting art reflecting...' idea.

Second was the scene where Havelind walks into Lee's room and finds all his stuff, then finds the Bible with the picture of him all effed up. For some reason, it hit me, it turned around all of his humor. I started looking at it not as attempts to get the audience to laugh, but the devices of this lonely, depressed guy who jokes and lies all the time to conceal his feelings. It's a spin on the charming male lead that you hardly see in hollywood comedies, and almost NEVER in black films.

That, and me also being a struggling writer, is why I liked Hav Plenty. So y'all cats can hate the movie and pick it apart all you want, you might be in the right, but don't dis the cats that liked it.

Plus the Love 40 part at the end. That cracked my shit up.

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And if so, then hold up. I'm not mad at you or anyone else who liked the movie. Like I said, I know there are good moments in it. I laughed. I was touched bit. More than anything, I was happy to see a black romantic comedy. Finally, a filmmaker tries to break in by being charming instead of violent. I applaud the effort, as well as Edmonds Entertainment for championing it and other movies casting us in a good light.

But, really, the movie is not very good - with or without the tacked-on commercial ending. Anytime you have to say "I know the acting was weak, but..." or "so-n-so's character was unbelievable, but..." then the movie is not good.

Yeah, it's okay to like it anyway. I'm not like those backpackers who call you a fool for liking Nelly or some bling bling dude. Sometimes there's a certain element that just does it for you. And even if it's complete trash, hey, we all have our guilty pleasures.

But I stand by my statement that we need to get past the stage of having faces, stories and situations we can specifically relate to on the screen being so unusual. And that's on audiences as much as filmmakers. Until then, we need to demand quality, and reject otherwise.

Remember when "Straight outta Brooklyn" came out? Dudes were loving that shit, even though it was wack as fuck. "Hav Plenty" is miles ahead of that, but we still have miles to go.

Okay, I'll get down off my soapbox. I need to stop posting before I go to bed.

Of course, if your post wasn't directed at me, never mind.

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Nope, the post wasn't directed to you.

But I agree with pretty much everything you said.

I still like the movie though.

It's one of those things that go beyond scrutiny for me. n/m?

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that were terrible- HavPlenty is not one of them- i know the history behind the movie too- so maybe that's why i could see past the rough edges- but i know most people i talked too didn't feel the movie because the finished product was not up to par when compared to big budget films...I liked it because the script and story were good- but also because i respected the process that CSC went through to make this film- but it takes and artist to respect and artist's plight- most people dont even think like that...so...eff um- i'm glad eye can see...soulpearl

What is this,'I know the guy(s)and their struggle to get the movie made so that makes it a better movie' shit? I know people who know the writer/director and helped produce TROIS and they'd die for those guys. But the movie was still shit!

Hollywood Shuffle and Clerks are examples of great independant film, so please spare us the 'it was good for an indi' song and dance.

Maybe it's good the rest of us are removed from these movies so we don't have the rose colored view you pros have.

I don't mean to snap it's just that Lee Plenty was a fuckin irritating bore to me.

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First of all- i would just like to say this movie is getting mad love on a "black movies" post in the general discussion form-

My point is this: it seems that people's opinions on this movie are directly rrelated to whether they liked/disliked, could relate/or couldn't relate to the lead character Lee Plenty ie CSC- and i was just saying that those of us who did like him and could relate have our reasons and this influenced whether or not we were feeling the movie. And the people that didn't like him think that everyone should agree with them- but please "spare" me your judgement on my opinion or the reasons behind it because you going by your post it seemed like you were missing the point. I was saying that my experience colors the way that i evaluate artistic products(like music and movies)- meaning that i not only recognize why something is good on the surface, but also appreciate on a deeper level. It does not impair the ability to tell the difference between what is good and what is bad. I thought it was a good movie, and I liked it even more because i appreciate the process. Anyway- it's only a movie!

carry on...

here here.

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first-time directors fall into one of two groups most times far as I can tell - overambitious or unambitious. but I semi-like this flick cause it somehow mixes both equally.

which maybe makes it uniquely mediocre..but saying that, feel like all it needed was a strong actor in the central role - like a younger isaiah washington maybe.

feel like that would've papered over the cracks in script and direction and given the rest of the cast a little more confidence, brought them together a little better.

cause everytime this dude smirks at the camera I just wanna smack him in the mouth - and that isn't even me. still feel like he did a lot with what he had.

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all
>it needed was a strong
>actor in the central role
>- like a younger isaiah
>washington maybe.

Yes! we talk whether or not we like the lead role of Lee Plenty cuz duh, he's the main character! He's going to make or break your movie.


>cause everytime this dude smirks at
>the camera I just wanna
>smack him in the mouth
>- and that isn't even
>me.

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And dammit, I should'nt want to do that.


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Yeah Hav Plenty was kinda weak-the sister was butta Hav's sister Hav was cute too, but her whole vibe was killing me. The shit was more of a good idea, but the great idea was lost on it's way to becoming a film.
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Just my thoughts, but I absolutely LOVED this movie! I'm not some big film critic or anything, but I thougt that it was a great film. This is probably mainly because I can really relate to Lee Plenty, with the whole struggling writer thing. Plus, like BigWorm said before, it really turned around the movie for me when Hav opened the Bible and it showed the pic of him beat to shit. After I saw this movie on some movie channel, I immediately went out and bought it, and I've watched it dozens of times since. And it's all the more entertaining after ?uest came on and told about the under-lying story in all of it a couple of months ago. For those of ya'll who read it, you know what I'm talking about. Plus it's a good story for anyone who's been in a relationship with one of those attention-cravers that you really did love. Just my opinion, though. Peace, Love, and SOUL!!!
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I was gonna make you sweat a little bit, but I decided to be a nice guy and tell you. A couple months back when their was a Hav Plenty post in General, ?uest came on and told us a little something extra about the story. I guess whoever CSC got the story from was an ex-girlfriend of... guess who... yep D'Angelo!! So guess who the character Michael Simmons was a mock of... got it yet? Yep, D'Angelo! Get it? Love Fourty... Brown Sugar. No, I didn't either, but I guess that's the story. Obviously the character was very exaggerated though, considering D' doesn't exactly come off as the money obsessed dude who wants to "lick on yo' clitoris or sumthin'." But remember when they're at the table talking about him, and they say how he's gonna be the next Marvin Gaye, and how he's been writing music since he was three or something, and how he played all of those intruments? Yep, THAT'S D'! Just thought I'd let ya know. If I screwed up something, someone just let me know. Peace, Love, and SOUL!!!
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I think the original hav plenty post was the first one i ever posted on okp...*sniff* sentimental value...anywho

I know all there is to know about that movie...cause i have loved it since day one. I will state why peeps hate on hav plenty and why i disagree.

"It was low budget"
The mans mother took out like a 3rd mortgage on her house to fund this movie. They did not have barely anything and the whole thing was taped in a week. I think thats a damn good movie for all the footage to be filmed in a week.

"The acting was bad"
Half the people were not actors. Christopher Scott Cherot wrote, produce, edited, and directed the film. He had an actor...he fell through so else better to play him but...him. I think he did a pretty good job...since he was playing himself...hello? and the chica that played haviland is a producer (or something like that) The lady that was supposed to play hav was the chica puttin up the christmas junk....csc met the girl who actually played hav and decided to give her the part. So the two main characters are not actors...and honestly i think the one ya'll think is so fine Chenoa Maxwell (hav) was the worst actor in the whole movie. she blubbed her lines on multiple occassions...but of course that doesn't matter cause she's cute.

Those are the only two major prolems I have seen with the movie. Ya'll just hate on it cause it was cheap and muh fuggas wasn't smokin blunts and ish in it. This movie was one that everyone can relate to. It was funny and smart. ANd you gotta give props to CSC he did literally everything (except for havs hair..she did it herself) any ? i can prolly answer on this movie since it is my fav of all time.

-Serena

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:-( How can you possibly sit there and give a speech on how you think everybody hates this damn movie. Just like some people have different reasons for 'loving' this garbage, others have reasons for hating it.

Please, give some of us a little more credit than believing because this movie didn't have the budget of a Star Wars movie is the reason that people don't like it. Low budget does not equate bad movie. Bad acting and undeveloped script equals bad movie! And Hav Plenty had both.

>"The acting was bad"
>Half the people were not actors.
>Christopher Scott Cherot wrote, produce,
>edited, and directed the film.

Let's see. I'd love to write , produce, edit, and direct a film, because I have full confidence in my abilities to get the job done. But I know before anybody else that my ass, has never acted before, I can't act, so I'm not about to jeopardize the quality of a movie that I've worked so hard on, and throw a few people that I think might look good in it, for the sake of getting it done. That's like Touch of Jazz (Jazzy Jeff in particular) singing on one of his tracks because Jill Scott wasn't available at the time. Who the hell wants to hear Jazzy Jeff sing? It maybe a bad example but you get my drift.

Ya'll just hate
>on it cause it was
>cheap and muh fuggas wasn't
>smokin blunts and ish in
>it.
Wow, you might as well call us simple minded buffoons. Just because we didn't like this one bad movie.

any ?
>i can prolly answer on
>this movie since it is
>my fav of all time.
>
You don't get to Blockbuster and the theaters too often do you?



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Thanks.

No really, thank you.

People that defend low-budget stinkers always complain that we did'nt like it cuz it was low budget.

To hell with CSC,I'm wondering what happened to Theodore Witcher, the guy who wrote and directed Love Jones. That movie started a spoken word peotry movement.

Plus I give props to a muhfucka who takes dialog from another movie and puts it in his movie.

'You better pull out your wallet, cuz I know it says Bad Muthafucka on it.'

Classic.

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they SHOULD have made Love Jones into a tv, show ya think? cause i would have LOVED to have seen how Darius and Nina's relationship blossomed over long distance, or did it? Did Josie ever stop manhating and get her a man?

did Marvin, Nina's ex boyfriend, cause static while Nina was in NYC??


i know folk are feeling me on this one...

Love Jones is the shit AND did spark a spoken word movement (already in existence but lovejones put it on the national map)

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> How can you possibly
>sit there and give a
>speech on how you think
>everybody hates this damn movie.
> Just like some people
>have different reasons for 'loving'
>this garbage, others have reasons
>for hating it.

I was not saying that it was the reason MOST people didn't like it. Those are the main two arguments I hear over and over again.

>Please, give some of us a
>little more credit than believing
>because this movie didn't have
>the budget of a Star
>Wars movie is the reason
>that people don't like it.
> Low budget does not
>equate bad movie. Bad
>acting and undeveloped script equals
>bad movie! And Hav Plenty
>had both.

I wasn't saying any one person I was responding to alot of the bitching about it. I have heard all kinds of crap like "you can see his zits" that don't got shit to do with the movie! The script was simple because it was a story about his weekend how deep do you want this man to get? the acting coulda been worse and the one person who acted the worst was never called out...oh yeah cause she's cute...

>>"The acting was bad"
>>Half the people were not actors.
>>Christopher Scott Cherot wrote, produce,
>>edited, and directed the film.
>
>Let's see. I'd love to
>write , produce, edit, and
>direct a film, because I
>have full confidence in my
>abilities to get the job
>done. But I know
>before anybody else that my
>ass, has never acted before,
>I can't act, so I'm
>not about to jeopardize the
>quality of a movie that
>I've worked so hard on,
>and throw a few people
>that I think might look
>good in it, for the
>sake of getting it done.
>That's like Touch of Jazz
>(Jazzy Jeff in particular) singing
>on one of his tracks
>because Jill Scott wasn't available
>at the time. Who
>the hell wants to hear
>Jazzy Jeff sing? It
>maybe a bad example but
>you get my drift.

He was up against a wall. He had no one else to play him so the eff else could have done it. If you can't play yourself in any scene thats pretty sad. So any hatred you have toward CSC's acting is hatred you have against his personality cause he was simply bein himself on camera.

>Ya'll just hate
>>on it cause it was
>>cheap and muh fuggas wasn't
>>smokin blunts and ish in
>>it.
>Wow, you might as well call
>us simple minded buffoons.
>Just because we didn't like
>this one bad movie.

This was meant for peeps who think that friday is a better film when all that damn movie does is bring the culture back 5 steps by bein a movie about two weed smokin porch monkeys man.

>any ?
>>i can prolly answer on
>>this movie since it is
>>my fav of all time.
>>
>You don't get to Blockbuster and
>the theaters too often do
>you?

actually I do. I love this movie cause it was a definite labor of love. this man did a million and one things that half of ya'll haters wouldn't even try. It was funny and something relatable unlike alot of black movies. Plus it has sentimental value...me and my sister really didn't start bein close til we watched this movie together...so don't front on me til you know real reasons thanks...

-Serena

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>I was not saying that it
>was the reason MOST people
>didn't like it. Those are
>the main two arguments I
>hear over and over again.

There have been WAY too many low-budget and no-budget movies that were better - much better - than this for people to let it slide just because it had people we could relate to. This is the point I've made in my other posts on this movie, and I don't think it can be said enough. Good movies are good movies, regardless of the budget, props, actors, makeup whatever. And bad movies are bad.



>The script was
>simple because it was a
>story about his weekend how
>deep do you want this
>man to get?

I want him to get REAL deep. Else why bother? I don't mean he has to be serious and make message movies or whatever. But get serious about storytelling. Get deep about about character development. Go deeper within himself to offer us something more than his shallow relationships. I've had much more eventful weekends, yet I don't try to pass them off as stories.

This movie could have been a lot better if he simply would have done a solid rewrite and edit on the script. The problem most low budget films have really has nothing to do with the budget. The one thing that costs nothing - the script - is what they need to work harder on. Especially if you can't cover plot holes and paper-thin characters with special effects or cool shots (which doesn't work either). It's when you have no money that you have to make sure you have a solid script. And the less money you have, the tighter the script needs to be - or else people are going to be paying attention to his zits. That right there is a true sign of a weak script. If the story is riveting and involving, he could of had a booger hanging out his nose. No one would have cared.

>He was up against a wall.
>He had no one else
>to play him so the
>eff else could have done
>it. If you can't play
>yourself in any scene thats
>pretty sad.

A good rule for writing is that if the character is simply a stand-in for the writer, then it's a bad character. He's charming, maybe even charismatic, but that's not a solid character. From a production standpoint, the wise thing may have been to postpone the shoot. I guess it all worked out for him, though, so oh well.

But this brings up another good point with low budget films. Here is my impromptu list of the three most essential things for a low budget film:
1) tight script
2) solid acting
3) someone to keep the filmmaker in check, tell him when he's making a bad decision.

I don't remember who produced his film, whether he did it himself or not. But one of the roles of a good producer is to tell the director "no."

But, once again, it all worked out for him, so oh well. It's just that when a filmmaker (or anyone in any field) succeeds in spite breaking the rules, they have no incentive to go back and learn the rules. So while I'm happy for the guy, I'm not exactly excited about his next project, whatever it is.


>This was meant for peeps who
>think that friday is a
>better film when all that
>damn movie does is bring
>the culture back 5 steps
>by bein a movie about
>two weed smokin porch monkeys
>man.

This is what happens when you try to address multiple audiences with one post.

>I love this
>movie cause it was a
>definite labor of love.

That doesn't make it a good movie. As I said in a different post, there are some good things in this movie. And it's okay to have guilty pleasures.

>this man did a million and
>one things that half of
>ya'll haters wouldn't even try.

Once again, the problem of addressing multiple audiences.

>It was funny and something
>relatable unlike alot of black
>movies. Plus it has sentimental
>value...me and my sister really
>didn't start bein close til
>we watched this movie together...so
>don't front on me til
>you know real reasons thanks...

Okay, you're telling on yourself. It's okay to like the movie. It's okay to love the movie. But that doesn't make it a good movie.

Sorry for jumping in the middle of this.

RED
(support GOOD film, not just black film)

RED
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>Sorry for jumping in the middle
>of this.

No need for apologies. Appreciate the comments and I agree with all of them.
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my red dog! thank you for breakin it down so that it may forever stay broke. you had an opposing viewpoint stated it and gave reasons. i love that...i feel you on some points....but not
hing will ever make me dislike this movie...no matter how sloppy the acting director producer whatever.

-Serena

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(hee hee)

You go hed own like that movie den. I ain't mad at ya.

(quiet as it's kept, I kinda got a kick out of it too. don't tell anybody. I gotta rep to consider. )

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Yeah, I checked the archives and found the post about D and Hav Plenty. too too funny.

For everyone else, forget about it. Either you loved the movie or you didn't. I can understand if you didn't, but I did, and a lot of other people did. I mean, take the movie clerks for instance. That's a horrible movie, the acting is also pretty terrible, the plot is...non-existent, but I still thought it was hilarious and loved it, and lots of other people did too.

I just wish CSC's career had taken off. What happened to him?

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it should be out sometime next year....ill try and find info onit for you..


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really???

that's good news. He's really inspiring, I was hoping he wouldn't fall off after Hav Plenty.

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