let's talk Bollywood...after all its the largest film production entity in the world...more movies get made there than anywhere else...and i wanna know more about it...

Who are the hot directors?
Who are the best actors/actresses?
Which films are must-see?

anybody got expertise on this?

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i'm posting it late at night on a friday and the majority of posters are weekday 9-5ers so the mod is making sure that it gets seen by the most amount of people so that it can be filled with yummy bollywood bits?

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...people who have some knowledge about all films. I love what I've seen from Bollywood, but not like some other people I know who actually went to India to not only experience their culture, but to see how films are made.

Hopefully we here in the Popcorn can help you out.

Too many movies, but I can recommend two:

Lagaan
Hyperabad Blues





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I'm getting a sense that this guy Aamir Khan is a bigtime star in Bollywood films...

i also heard that Mira Nair is directing an American/Bollywood flick called Bride and Predjudice....can't wait

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and its based on Pride and Predjudice...and there's dancing. it can't be all bad

and i'm sorry but the Guru was funny as hell

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i might watch just for her.
she is hot.
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mira nair is not really bollywood though

(it was directed by Gurinder Chadha, of Bend it like Beckham fame) and as someone noted below, she isn't a Bollywood director anyway

neither is Chadha, of course... Bride and Prejudice is more like a tribute to Bollywood films than the real thing

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shes a british indian director, not from india.

same for the slept on mira nair too i think, whos branching out a lot more, with vanity fair, perez family etc.

-devdas
-kutch kutch hota hai
-where's the party yaar?

i know these are the more popular ones...but am also looking to get into bollywood a li'l more...got a few film buff friends who i'm relying on for suggestions.

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I wanted to watch that one about the cricket match, but I could never get up the nerve to commit that much time to it. But it's supposed to be really good.

*checks netflix queue*

LAGAAN. Yeah, that's the one.

That, and the clip in GHOST WORLD. That's the extent of my Bollywood knowledge.

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that's a good film, but it's not typical bollywood. and yeah, most are at least 3 hours long with lots of signing, dancing, and bad acting.

My prof/boss is from india, so he put me on to em.

The amazing thing is that the try to put everything in one movie. You get action, drama, a musical, comedy, thriller whatever you want. My prof/boss inform me that when you go to the movies in India, the idea is that you get your money's worth, so the movies may seem cluttered with som much going on.

Also the songs are kinda hot. Like in india, the sdtk of the movies are always the biggest hits.

And no funny biz in the movies no tongue, no pecks no nothing, which is amazing, b/c u might not notice it at first. Almost like a weird skit, soon as it seems someone is about to kiss, its singin time.

but i like em

thats all i got

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no hot love scenes? there has to be some indie bollywood directors that put some steam in their flicks

ok so then lets talk about hindi porn...does it exist and do they sing and dance in those too?

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i can remember when i was a teen there was a big scandal because one Bollywood film dared to actually show a KISS! it was banned and everything... it was like the Indian equivalent of Basic Instinct or something.

and even now as Aisharya Rai is crossing over to American audiences, she's kinda concerned about what her fans back home will think of her when they see her actually kissing on the screen in Hollywood films

the closest i can think of actual sex and nudity being shown in an Indian film is Kama Sutra. and that was directed by Mira Nair, who isn't based in India at all and is not connected in any way to the Bombay film industry

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cant remember it being too graphic though.

accually its alot racier now than it used to be and i dont mean themes, i mean the dancing (lots of gyrating) and skin showing.

I've seen two- Junglee and one really old one about a mother and her rebellious son named... "Birju" (<<phonetics). I loved them both, and love the singing- I listen to Indian music a lot because of it. Try Mahalakshmi if you like that kind of music.

Please suggest some good films and how I might get them?

Amitab is the biggest film star in Bollywood history. I would start with his films from the 70's. One of my all time faves however is Qurbani starring Vinod Khanna and Amjad Khan. This film features every over-the-top genre device that makes Bollwood great under the influence of Blaxploitation. The only thing missing, if i remember correctly, is the brothers seperated at birth storyline.

good luck,

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The only thing missing, if i remember
>correctly, is the brothers seperated at birth storyline.
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bollywood isnt bollywood without this storyline.


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I cant be objective with Amitabh. Yaarana is my favorite for no good reason.

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One of my all
>time faves however is Qurbani starring Vinod Khanna

I love that title track from Qurbani, funky!

Are you talking about Laila O Laila? If so I heartily cosign.

Also for those holding back there is a variation of the split brothers theme.

native son

or brando even, in terms of stature. hes an institution!

By the context clues, I'm getting these are films made in India?

No?

I'm willing to try any kind of new film (Thanks Netflix! *ding*).

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yes these are films from India and are mostly known for the formulaic pattern they follow - hero and heroine + musical numbers. they are basically a combination of musical, comedy, drama, and action balled up into one...

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greatest indian movie ever!! "Disco Dancer"

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i can't seem to find info on this movie anywhere, but i know i saw it when i was a kid. i still remember one of the songs where he sings, "I am a disco dancer!"
i'm not sure if i have the title wrong, has anyone else seen this?

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found it!! http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0208903/
man i'd love to see this again!

i want to try to get into this, but i really can't do musicals

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that's retarded

to the billions of people who enjoy the films around the world...Bollywood films outsell most hollywood films by millions and millions of dollars. They represent a fantasy of life. India is a very poor country and these films are the only entertainment (and escape) for most of the country. There's no bowling alleys and nightclubs and basketball courts and all the things we find recreation in in most of the country (someone please correct me if i'm wrong in this) so Bollywood films are how people get their entertainment. So the directors chock 3+ hours full of comedy, drama, action, song, and dance. The two highest paid actors in the world are bollywood actors. Its a huge part of Hindi culture (and other Middle Eastern/Eastern Asian cultures) and its not 'retarded'.

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there's no excuse for such a limited creative output in a medium that allows for the entire spectrum of human experience.

they don't get a pass just 'cuz they're from another country. why not branch out and try something different?

watch...all the responses to this post will make some mention of the Indian culture. but i'm sure that A) the Bollywood film-makers are capable of making more varied films and B) Indian film-goers are willing to give them a chance

>there's no excuse for such a limited creative output in a
>medium that allows for the entire spectrum of human
>experience.

I think it's silly to suggest that movies that contain so many different elements suffer from limited creative output.

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i think the musical is actually the MOST creative form in cinema, though it seems to have fallen out of favor with most audiences

>but i'm sure that A) the
>Bollywood film-makers are capable of making more varied
>films and B) Indian film-goers are willing to give them a
>chance

uh... i doubt this.

the musical has been the primary format of the Bombay film industry since the 1920s... right or wrong, it's an integral part of the Indian film experience. it's one of their conventions, the same way we have our own conventions in Western cinema

there ARE independent filmmakers in India who produce an alternative cinema to the flashy, commercial Bollywood fare, but they are "art" directors and their work is seen by relatively few people. in fact, they are more respected by Western cinephiles than they are at home.

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it was cool. if we didn't want to rent shoes, we could go barefoot. i played basketball there also. but haven't been to a nightclub. india's not the only reason those films are wildly popular. they're huge in northern africa & the middle east.

they've always been huge throughout Africa, particularly West and East. and in Nigeria, they've had more influence on the local film scene than Hollywood has

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just because you don't like musicals? it's obviously not the only type of film that India produces, it just so happens to be the most popular. good for them. they found a niche that is successful and brings pride to their countrymen.

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Is it retarded that nearly every American film has a non-diagetic musical score?

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Others to check out:
Khabi Khabi - Classic 80's film not to be confused with the more recent Khabi Khushi Khabie Gham

Anything by Raj Kapoor, a film star from the 50s who drew heavily from Charley Chaplin. Shri 420 may be his most popular film and is indeed a good place to start. The songs from this film will stay with you for days. Awara is also a worth your time.

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I'm not impressed...

(and by seen, i mean not in person. just online...)

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She's like a more modest, much prettier Catherine Zeta Jones. Is it because she is so covered up all the time or what?
D'frnt Strokes.

>She's like a more modest, much prettier Catherine Zeta
>Jones.

she's got nothing on catherine zeta jones. rai's not even the best looking indian actress around.

i mean, she's aiight... but all this "most beautiful woman in the world" hype is a bit much

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im not calling her gruffy the dog face woman or anything, im just saying i don't think she lives up to the hype (oh, there's hype! all my brown friends (and their friends) can't get enough of her. And I'm impartial to brown chicks!)

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like someone designed her to fit the model of some asinine, unsexy indian-barbie specs.

which American movie star or director or rock star she will marry?

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"But rest assured, in my luxurious house built on the backs of people darker than me, I am sipping fine scotch and scoffing at how stupid you are." - bshelly

lol

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Fertile Ground - Black Is...
Sa-Ra - CDR
The Roots - Various live shows
Soweto Kinch - Conversations With The Unseen
Plantlife - Return of Jack Splash
Siji - God Given

http://www.deephousepage.com/

http://www.last.fm/user/mrmagic/

okay, i know this is the bollywood post, but just to provide some balance for those interested in indian cinema, id check out - mr and mrs iyer, fire, salaam bombay, monsoon wedding too (though that wasnt an exclusively indian production as far as im aware).