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"drumline."


          


-weak story line.
-great concept for a movie.
-wasn't elaborated upon in the movie.
-the drumline was AMAZING, for each college featured.
-they weren't actors but the intensity was caught on
camera real WELL.
-main actor, he dumb.
-left me asking in the end, where his daddy at?

and my final thought.
"i want to go to atlanta tech and see those fine ass
niggas beat on some drums for me" =)

i give it......5 out of 10..because the drumline,
and the whole marching band was AMAZING...there was
no solid story behind it though.

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I liked it.....
Dec 06th 2002
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you went to the premiere?
Dec 06th 2002
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      groupie
Dec 06th 2002
4
a lot of them were high school students
Dec 06th 2002
2
Dallas Austin
Dec 11th 2002
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RE: Dallas Austin
Dec 11th 2002
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RE: Dallas Austin
Dec 11th 2002
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RE: Dallas Austin
Dec 12th 2002
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if they can do it i can do!!!
Dec 12th 2002
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      PHAT BEACH 2??
Dec 12th 2002
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RE: Dallas Austin
Dec 12th 2002
10
blast!
Dec 13th 2002
12
Ebert gives it 3/4
Dec 13th 2002
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WHAT THE F IS "clark a&t??????"
Dec 13th 2002
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It was Atlanta A&T....
Dec 13th 2002
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my bad, "atlanta" a&t
Dec 13th 2002
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RE: WHAT THE F IS
Dec 29th 2002
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I liked it!!!
Dec 13th 2002
16
PAC 10 bands
Dec 14th 2002
18
I liked it a lot
Dec 14th 2002
19
I disagree
Dec 27th 2002
20
Movie was GOOD!!!!!
Dec 27th 2002
21
i thought it was cute for what it was
Dec 30th 2002
23
was feeling it
Dec 30th 2002
24
I enjoyed it a lot
Dec 31st 2002
25

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1. "I liked it....."
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I think the story could have been developed a little more, but I am all about Black college bands, becuz I did not go to a black college....I went to the premiere, but I would see it again at the theatre..It is just a feel good movie.

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3. "you went to the premiere?"
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did u see jc chasez from *nsync?


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2. "a lot of them were high school students"
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not even in college. Georgia has great high school black marching bands.

  

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5. "Dallas Austin"
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did you know, the story was based on Dallas Austin? i did not know that, and i did not know he exec. produced either...

Hitmaker Austin follows familiar beat in 'Drumline'
By Steve Jones, USA TODAY

Long before Dallas Austin became a hitmaking producer for the likes of TLC, Boyz II Men, Michael Jackson and Madonna, he honed his musical skills on the drumline of his high school's marching band.

Austin's experiences serve as inspiration for the Charles Stone III-directed film Drumline, which opens Friday. It is a window to the competitive world of black college show-style marching bands, a flamboyant and funky world where spectacular choreography and exhilarating rhythms can make the halftime battles of the bands bigger attractions than the football games played around them. Austin is the film's executive producer as well as its executive music producer.

Drumline revolves around a talented but undisciplined freshman drummer (Nickelodeon's Nick Cannon) who butts heads with the stern band director (Orlando Jones) at fictitious college Atlanta A&T. The tension between the two threatens the unity of the band on the eve of a $100,000 winner-take-all competition.

"This is a part of black culture that is so important but hasn't really been exposed," says Austin, 30, who went to high schools in Columbus, Ga., and Atlanta, where marching band battles attract thousands of fans every year to the Georgia Dome.

"When I first took it to (20th Century) Fox, they asked, 'What's so interesting about marching bands?' I told them about the struggle that goes into the competition, not only within the bands but with other schools."

The high-energy marching style, which steers clear of the military lockstep and John Philip Sousa music of traditional bands, has been a decades-long tradition at Florida A&M, Grambling and other colleges and high schools throughout the South.

Austin says that thanks to his older brother, Claude, he knew all the marching-band routines by the time he got to high school. But he soon learned there was more to success than being able to mimic what the band did.

"I knew how to play better than everybody else," says Austin, who had taught himself several instruments, including guitar, keyboards and drums. "But I couldn't read music, and that's how they tried to hang me up. It's the same thing in the Drumline story."

The movie has been in the works since 1995, but Austin says getting the script right took time. He was leery of having it turned into a hokey comedy. Though Drumline has humorous moments, he wanted it to show the high level of athleticism and musicianship resulting from pride, respect and hours of hard work. Austin says shifting the setting from high school to college gave the filmmakers more dramatic leeway.

Atlanta A&T was created by redoing dorms and facilities at Atlanta's Morris Brown College and Clark Atlanta University. Clark's Panther Stadium got a makeover, although the school's mascot was retained so the Mighty Marching Panthers logo could serve Atlanta A&T's Pounding Panthers. Clark's band was combined with members of Atlanta's Southwest DeKalb High School to make up A&T's massive troupe, and real-life bands from Morris Brown, Bethune-Cookman and Grambling show up for the big battle sequence.

Because these bands play the most current Top 40 and hip-hop hits, Austin wanted to create songs that would actually be on the radio when the movie came out so the audience could recognize them in the band arrangements. The soundtrack's first two singles are Joe and Jadakiss' I Want a Girl Like You and Blowing Me Up (With Her Love) by 'N Sync's JC Chasez. There are also new songs by Nivea, Trick Daddy, Petey Pablo (who appears with the Morris Brown band), Jermaine Dupri, Alicia Keys, Nappy Roots and Monica.

"These bands play what's out right now," Austin says. "So we had to create music that wouldn't be dated when people saw it."

Austin stays in demand as a music producer; he worked most recently with Macy Gray. But he has other film projects up his sleeve. Production will begin soon on Jellybeans, based on a story he co-wrote with TLC's Tionne "T-Boz" Watkins. It will be a contemporary coming-of-age film centered on an Atlanta roller-skating rink. The original Jellybeans was a pre-stardom hangout in the '80s for Austin and members of TLC, Organized Noise and Outkast, many of whom first met at the Sunday soul skate nights there.

Austin and Watkins updated the story, however, because they didn't think younger audiences would relate as well to a period piece. He hopes the movie, which is being produced by Will Smith's Overbrook Films (Ali), will be released next fall. He's also developing a TV sitcom called Down South about a New York City kid who is sent to live with relatives in the South.

"We've sold so many records based on the Southern lifestyle," he says, "but it hasn't been depicted on TV as much. But down here, we still eat Sunday dinners together, and even the hardest thug still wipes his feet before he goes into Mrs. Johnson's house."

  

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6. "RE: Dallas Austin"
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I was at the ATL premiere... Niggas already have that movie on Bootleg.

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7. "RE: Dallas Austin"
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my brother saw that shit on bootleg in Afghanistan!

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8. "RE: Dallas Austin"
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>Atlanta A&T was created by redoing dorms and facilities at
>Atlanta's Morris Brown College and Clark Atlanta University.
>Clark's Panther Stadium got a makeover, although the
>school's mascot was retained so the Mighty Marching Panthers
>logo could serve Atlanta A&T's Pounding Panthers. Clark's
>band was combined with members of Atlanta's Southwest DeKalb
>High School to make up A&T's massive troupe, and real-life
>bands from Morris Brown, Bethune-Cookman and Grambling show
>up for the big battle sequence.
>

Daaaang! don't nobody have something other than a panther for a mascot??!

Marching band was the shyte! when I went to Southwest a.k.a SWD. I'm so happy to see that they got involved with this project. They were supposed to play a track on Aquemini 'cause andre3000 is an alumn but apparently there was a problem, so morrisbrown got to do it instead. Still, Andre sported the band uniform in the liner notes . . a nice tribute to the band.

I remember band shows being pure adrenaline, that's why, no matter how stupid this movie looks to ya'll, your criticisms will go unheeded. Obviously ya'll didn't have good bands at ya'lls schools and have no idea the kind of energy they bring to the field or the time or the committment or the skillz entailed. I pity the fool . . . and battle of the bands?! STOP PLAYIN' . . . that was pure SKILLZ. man, those were the good ole days.

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9. "if they can do it i can do!!!"
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everybody making movies nowadays. im eagerly anticipating drumline tho, but i need to really start working on my script...something like road trip, but at a HBCU! how u love dat!

  

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11. "PHAT BEACH 2??"
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or perhaps PHAT BEACH AFTER NEXT

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10. "RE: Dallas Austin"
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Dag, not one band member from NC A&T??? They had me all hyped on the commercial. This movie could've very well been about NCA&T because they were getting a bit "Star Wars-y" on us for a minute.

  

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12. "blast!"
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i'll probably see drumline today... but if you liked the drumming in that, see "blast", it's incredible

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13. "Ebert gives it 3/4"
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When the first half is over, the show begins. So "Drumline" advises us, in a story centered on the marching band of a predominantly black university in Atlanta. Devon (Nick Cannon), a drummer so good he was personally recruited by the bandmaster, journeys from Harlem to the middle-class world of Atlanta A&T, where he is the best drummer in the band, and the most troublesome.

He's a hotshot, cocky, a showboat who adds a solo to the end of his audition piece and upstages his section leader in front of thousands of fans during a half-time show. The movie shows him gradually drumming himself out of the band, and out of favor with Laila (Zoe Saldana), the dance major he's dating. It also shows him growing up, learning some lessons, and making a friend out of a former enemy.

The film sets Devon's story against the background of the BET Big Southern Classic, a (fictional) annual competition between marching bands that's held in Atlanta. His school's traditional rival is cross-town Morris Brown University, a real school whose band is famed for its halftime shows. MBU's band is flashy and high-stepping, doing anything to please the crowd, while Atlanta A&T's bandmaster, Dr. Aaron Lee (Orlando Jones), has more serious musical tastes and believes the primary job of a band member is to learn.

"Drumline," directed by Charles Stone, and written by Tina Gordon Chism and Shawn Schepps, is entertaining for what it does, and admirable for what it doesn't do. It gets us involved in band politics and strategy, gives us a lot of entertaining halftime music, and provides a portrait of a gifted young man who slowly learns to discipline himself and think of others. That's what it does.

What it doesn't do is recycle all the tired old cliches in which the Harlem kid is somehow badder and blacker than the others, provoking confrontations. Devon makes the nature of his character clear in a heartbreaking early scene when, after high school graduation, he talks to his father, who abandoned the family, and tells him he doesn't do drugs, doesn't have a lot of little kids running around, and has a full scholarship to university. This is a movie that celebrates black success instead of romanticizing gangsta defeatism. Nick Cannon plays Devon as a fine balance between a showoff and a kid who wants to earn admiration.

The key rivalry in the film is between Devon and Sean (Leonard Roberts), head of the drum section and the band's best drummer--until Devon arrives. They develop a personal animosity that hurts the band, Dr. Lee believes. He disciplines Devon for violations of the band rule book, for provoking a fight with another band member and, most painfully, for keeping a secret that Sean makes sure is revealed.

Dr. Lee has a problem, too, with the school president, who likes Devon's showboating and thinks the band needs more pizzazz to please the alums. Orlando Jones makes his character a thoughtful teacher, a little old-fashioned, who believes in values. In creating this character, the writers must have been thinking about real teachers they admired, since they avoid the usual Mr. Chips/Dead Poets cliches.

The love story between Devon and Laila is sweet and remarkably innocent, for a contemporary movie. They share one tender kiss, although the eagle-eyed MPAA rates the film PG-13 for "innuendo." Oh, I forgot: The MPAA also singles out "language," although this is one of the cleanest-talking urban movies in history. If this isn't a PG film in today's world, what is?

It is also, in a very sincere way, touching. It pays attention to its characters, gives them weight and reality, doesn't underline the morals but certainly has them. "Drumline" joins titles like "love jones," "Soul Food," "Barbershop" and "Antwone Fisher" in the slowly growing list of movies about everyday African-American lives. What a good-hearted film.


Note: The filmmakers filled the Georgia Dome with 50,000 extras for the rousing marching band showdown, which features the actual bands of Morris Brown College and Clark Atlanta University, Bethune-Cookman College in Daytona Beach, and Louisiana's Grambling State. Morris Brown was a good sport to allow its bandmaster to be portrayed as the villain.






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14. "WHAT THE F IS "clark a&t??????""
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I know aggies are pissed :-p

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15. "It was Atlanta A&T...."
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But it was shot @ CAU

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17. "my bad, "atlanta" a&t"
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I know some aggies and floridians that will be livid...

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22. "RE: WHAT THE F IS"
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It was a fictitious(sp?) school. kind of a spin-off of North Carolina A&T, and Clark-Atlanta Univ.

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16. "I liked it!!!"
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you hbcu types will like it too.....
losts of background development interms of the hbcu
band culture (kk psi, etc.)
I think Morris Brown Colleges should have won the
drum line stand up, but there main show sucked.
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18. "PAC 10 bands"
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i feel like i missed out on the real college band experience because my college band was mainly white. but i definitely do understand the dedication that band members put into it in high school and college. i kinda miss the hs competitions.

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19. "I liked it a lot"
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a cute movie

great drumline/band sequences

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20. "I disagree"
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I thought the storyline was well done

I thought the concept was executed well

I was having high school marching band flashbacks (we didn't get to do the cool songs tho)

Good movie I'd recommend, especially for like a date or something

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21. "Movie was GOOD!!!!!"
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The percussion battles brought back memories from hgih school. It was also good to see actual sorrorities and fraternities in the film and play some susbstance in the film(Jason Weaver's character).

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23. "i thought it was cute for what it was"
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but that white guy who got challenged looked old as hell!! i guess he's one of those 30-something actors who play 19-20 year olds.

  

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That movie was good cats had some real talent and the 7up guy did a good job. I seen him in a different way.

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25. "I enjoyed it a lot"
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The commercials did that film NO justice. It is actually more of a drama than a comedy (the commercials had me thinking this joint would be a black Porky's with drums...LOL...but so many people told me it was good, I figured I would give it a shot and I liked it).

The chemistry between the male and female lead was great. I could have done without the throwaway "white boy drummer wants his respect" subplot (mainly b/c dude wasn't that great of an actor and was underdeveloped anyway), but the rest of the flick was pretty strong. orlando jones did a lot better than expected in a serious role (I've never even seen him in a serious role before).

The climactic drumline competition was classic.

It had some funny moments interspersed in there too.

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