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"Adaptation"


  

          

Point blank...this movie was amazing. It had it all. That's it...just felt like saying that.


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RE: Adaptation
Jan 11th 2003
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RE: Cage
Jan 11th 2003
2
RE: Adaptation
Jan 11th 2003
3
its supposed to be corny
Jan 12th 2003
7
      egggsactly
Jan 12th 2003
9
           thing is,
Jan 12th 2003
11
                I feel you
Jan 12th 2003
12
                there *is* no donald kaufman
Jan 12th 2003
13
                     I knew that!
Jan 12th 2003
14
                     :-(
Jan 13th 2003
19
                Total self-gratification
Jan 13th 2003
21
good movie
Jan 11th 2003
4
RE: Adaptation
Jan 11th 2003
5
RE: Adaptation
Jan 12th 2003
6
Yup. (n/m)
Jan 12th 2003
8
I hate to say it...
Jan 12th 2003
10
RE: Adaptation
Jan 12th 2003
15
Kaufman twins they running this movie shit!
Jan 12th 2003
16
LOL! yeah...the kaufman brothers are the shit!
Jan 13th 2003
18
Yes....
Jan 13th 2003
17
RE: Adaptation
Jan 13th 2003
20
"see that girl over there?
Jan 14th 2003
22
RE: "see that girl over there?
Jan 14th 2003
23
      wasn't he on "band of brothers"?
Jan 14th 2003
24
           Swingers also
Jan 14th 2003
25

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1. "RE: Adaptation"
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>Point blank...this movie was amazing. It had it all.
>That's it...just felt like saying that.

spike jonze is genius, but.........I HATE NICK CAGE!!!!

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Mynoriti
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2. "RE: Cage"
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Im not a big fan of Nicholas Cage either but I must admit he's REALLY good in this and even does a great(and very convincing job of playing his own twin. Yes I know it sounds corny but it really does work

And the film is great

  

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3. "RE: Adaptation"
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i found the very end with the broad and "i love you's" a bit corny but other than that it was dope.

  

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7. "its supposed to be corny"
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at the end, it becomes a big stupid hollywood movie.

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9. "egggsactly"
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11. "thing is,"
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does the fact that it was intentionally corny make up for the fact that it was corny? I don't think so.

A lot of people are saying that if you don't like this movie, then you just didn't understand it, or if you didn't like the ending then you took it too literally. I say that's bullshit.

A lot of artists have been doing this type of thing in other media for years, and the critics defending them have fallen back on the same excuses. Sometimes it's legitimate, sometimes it's not. But irony died a long time ago.

It reminds my of that Common song on LWFC with MC Lyte (sorry I'm blanking on the name). You make a song filled with mysoginistic stereotypes to comment on the mysoginistic stereotypes in rap music. Fine, I get that. But if I don't like songs with mysoginistic stereotypes, why should I like this one?

You make a movie filled with trite hollywood cliches to point out how trite and cliched hollywood movies are. Nice statement, but you still are asking me to watch a movie with trite hollywood cliches. I understand it. I just don't like it.

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12. "I feel you"
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Sun Jan-12-03 11:58 AM

  

          

I guess it depends on how you take it. To be honest I came out of the theater feeling dissapointed in the last part of the film but admittedly (at the time) snickering and patting myself on the back because I was one of the "ones who got it" (pretty sad huh?). Its hard to say whether or not it was worth it to sacrafice 2/3 of a really good film with a shitty ending just to try and prove a point, but for me the first part of the film (which I really enjoyed) and the fact that they were willing to take a chance like that made it worth it to me. But thats just me.

Also did Donald Kaufman really write the last part of the film? I know thats what people are saying and I know he's credited but I was just wondering if you knew for sure.



  

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13. "there *is* no donald kaufman"
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charlie made that up...

and i loved the movie.
spike's my hero.

  

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14. "I knew that!"
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yeah

I knew that!!

  

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19. ":-("
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That's a spoiler for anyone who hasn't seen it...I was gonna tell you to edit it, but it's too late.

For me, I was all crying when it said it was dedicated to Donald and shit...and then I looked up all the characters in the movie to try to discern what was real and what wasn't...and came across Charlie's bio...no Donnie! I was laughing for days. People in my office thought I had lost my mind! That Kaufman is something else.

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21. "Total self-gratification"
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>does the fact that it was intentionally corny make up for
>the fact that it was corny? I don't think so.
Me neither. And yes I 'got it'.

>A lot of artists have been doing this type of thing in other
>media for years, and the critics defending them have fallen
>back on the same excuses. Sometimes it's legitimate,
>sometimes it's not. But irony died a long time ago.
Let's try and forget about '8 1/2' and all the other movies Kaufman borrows from. It's killing me that NO ONE is mentioning that CK stole the concept of the brothers as screenwriters idea right down to the bogus script concept from Sam Shepard's "True West".

>You make a movie filled with trite hollywood cliches to
>point out how trite and cliched hollywood movies are. Nice
>statement, but you still are asking me to watch a movie with
>trite hollywood cliches. I understand it. I just don't like
>it.
Exactly. It comes off as a total hand job. Spike and Charlie jerking themselves off. Look what we did. Look how smart. And critics have totally bought it and deemed them geniuses. I'm not buying it. At the end of film, when you walk away, what are you left with? A couple funny Nic Cage moments, some decent editing, and a forgettable film.

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4. "good movie"
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- many plot changes (literately). don't know if was meant to be a comedy but it was there from beginning to end. some parts left you thinking and recalling scenes. again, good movie.

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5. "RE: Adaptation"
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I need to see this movie

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6. "RE: Adaptation"
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i have heard nothing but good things about this movie. will have to check it out when it comes out. is it directed by Spike Jonze??

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8. "Yup. (n/m)"
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10. "I hate to say it..."
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But I think this beats out Punchdrunk Love for best movie of the year. Sorry, Paul.

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15. "RE: Adaptation"
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i thought donald was the split personality of charlie. i never even really thought of him as a person throughout the movie unitl he started interacting with the other characters. he was the complete antithesis of charlie. also i loved how every time charlie had a "break through" it was something that already happened in the movie. i cant wait to see it again, except that i saw it in sf around xmas and it doesnt open in humboldt till jan 31.

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16. "Kaufman twins they running this movie shit!"
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One of the few movies that lived up to the hype. I mean the movie works on so many damn levels. I can't say nothing no one else has not said, but it's some amazing shit. I mean the movie struck me on every damn level. Chris Cooper deseves a oscar by now that's all i have to say.


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18. "LOL! yeah...the kaufman brothers are the shit!"
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don't you feel like someone cool who's "in" on a cool joke?

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17. "Yes...."
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Amazing quite sums it up.

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20. "RE: Adaptation"
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Amazing? Sure. Creative? Yes. Self-indulgent? Massively.

I am looking forward to _confessions of a dangerous mind_, a book kaufman adapted without the self indulgent interlude.

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22. ""see that girl over there?"
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i fucked her up the ass...

nah, just kidding"...

"i'd really like to fuck HER up the ass!"

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23. "RE: "see that girl over there?"
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damn he was killing me. Does anything other than Office Space pop in your head when you see him?

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24. "wasn't he on "band of brothers"?"
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what a waste of comedic talent on that miniseries!!!

i love office space. "lumberg fucked her." HAHAHAHA

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25. "Swingers also"
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In Adaptaion did anyone notice the pictues of himself on his desk?

  

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