Also done in just 5 years...with a cable audience.

*flies off*

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Def Comedy Jam transformed our entire
generation.

90% of the significant funny people of our time, present and future
passed through there.

I mean, all you have to say are the words:

"Dave Chapelle"

And this shit falls on its face.

Chapelle alone is funnier and will have a longer,
stronger legacy than any SNL member...maybe ever.



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All the Kings of Comedy started there.

Tracy Morgan started there

Chris Tucker started there

Chris Rock passed through.

Martin Lawrence's legend grew there.

Jaime Foxx.

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>"Dave Chapelle"
>
>And this shit falls on its face.
>
>Chapelle alone is funnier and will have a longer,
>stronger legacy than any SNL member...maybe ever.

Its almost like the entertainment industry began in 1990 with you guys. Murray, Belushi, Chase, I mean come on.

Personally I think Chapelle is already the Jerry Seinfeld of today. He'll still do the standup every once in a while but overall he's sick of Hollywood and he's done with it.

Of course he never had the overall cultural impact of a Seinfeld, so in a matter of 30 years he'll be forgotten to most. He'll be on the same level of recognition as David Spade (although much, much funnier).

>Its almost like the entertainment industry began in 1990 with
>you guys. Murray, Belushi, Chase, I mean come on.

I'll give Bill Murray his, but even at his peak he wasn't
larger than Chapelle was at his.

Hell, Chapelle help build an entire NETWORK.

If you deny that, you're simply making the usual fallacy
of equating older with more impactful. Hell, from an
INDIVIDUAL perspective, Eddie Murphy was more impactful
than Bill Murray or Chase was, because Murphy did it
on more levels than either(Hollywood, and stand up).


>Personally I think Chapelle is already the Jerry Seinfeld of
>today. He'll still do the standup every once in a while but
>overall he's sick of Hollywood and he's done with it.

To be honest, as a black kid living in the Inner City projects
in the 90s I didn't even know who the fuck Jerry Seinfeld was until
my momma sent me to school in the 'burbs.

Seinfeld was very popular to a more narrow range
of Americans.

Dave Chapelle, on the other hand, had a wide audience
that defied race and class from the VERY beginning. White
people ate him up just like black people did.

This is why, up until recently(or perhaps still) the Chapelle
Show DVD was the highest selling TV show ever, selling
more than the goddman SIMPSONS.

Chapelle's reach >>>>>> Seinfeld's reach.

>Of course he never had the overall cultural impact of a
>Seinfeld, so in a matter of 30 years he'll be forgotten to
>most. He'll be on the same level of recognition as David Spade
>(although much, much funnier).

David Spade is one of the most parasitically unfunny pieces
of shit in the history of recorded footage. Without Chris Farley,
we wouldn't have a reason for him to have ever walked the earth.

Ever.

To compare Dave Chapelle to David Spade, in any way, shape, or
form is to justify why you should suplexed, and have your
nose broken. Just shut up with that shit. Please.



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SNL survived because of Eddie Murphy.

Eddie Murphy has (I don't have the stats, but quite possibly) the biggest grossing stand up comedy specials of all time.

Eddie Murphy was the biggest star in Hollywood the minute he started singing Roxanne in 48 Hours. Even when his star wasn't shining bright, he could still get movie deals for dumb shit.

He continues to this day to be one of the biggest names in the last 50 years of any entertainment medium.

Chappelle did cement Comedy Central as more than just "that network with South Park and SNL reruns". I totally agree with that. He opened the door for all of the other shows that have been going on that show and succeeding, for better (Reno 911) or worse (Mind of Mencia). And Block Party was a pretty damn huge success at the box office.

But he's still not where Eddie Murphy was/is.

Chevy Chase would be close, simply because he was on SNL for one year, and immediately was a huge star. He held the world in the palm of his hand in a way very similar to Dave Chappelle. But Chevy couldn't have opened a stand up movie. Chevy didn't get a deal close to what Chappelle got. Chevy beats Chappelle in movies, for sure (as does Murray), but Chappelle has them beat on TV, stand up, and general notoriety/immediacy of fame.

So the poster above didn't say any of that, and I concur with your general etherings of his overgeneralizations and simply wrong comments. But I think in a Murphy vs. Chappelle argument, Murphy wins.

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First off I meant to list Murphy in the original piece. My bad.

Secondly, Seinfeld is the most watched show of all-time. Chapelle's Show was a highly watched CABLE show. Their impact on american culture is not even comparable. I love Chapelle as much as the next guy but to say he has the same impact is laughable.

Thirdly the Spade argument was not meant to compare the two but simply state the level of recognition Chapelle will get in the distant future which is almost none.

All the shit you said about Chapelle creating a network and blah blah blah could be said about Beavis and Butthead, Jackass, Tom Green or any number of shows that will be a footnote in history. Not to say that any of those shows were as good asw Chapelle.

Your original statement that Chapelle will have a bigger impact of culture than any SNLer was luduicrous.

that SEINFELD was more popular to a "narrow" segment of the population!?!

that chapelle was more popular than....SEINFELD

hahahahahahaha


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We can talk about SNL vs. Def Comedy Jam though. In terms of accolades/box office numbers...it's an SNL win, no brainer. If it's in terms of cultural impact, then I'd give the edge to Def Comedy Jam.

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My agreement had to do with the Def Comedy Jam vs. SNL comments Ryan made. If we're referring to cultural impact, MTV has more than Def Comedy Jam and SNL combined. I was leaving MTV out of the equation.

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MTV doesn't exactly have successful alumni, but they have a tremendous cultural impact. Although I'm sure OE would like to tell us BET or The Box have had more of one.

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Jon Stewart, Jackass, Mike Judge and Michael Bergin?

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They're over the big dick and leaping ability thing.

When niggaz can do Calculus better(we can) and
start showing it(we haven't, yet), then the real
race war will begin.

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And then followed it up that they haven't shown it yet? You and Bags must have Weapons of Mass Derivation hidden somewhere deep in Africa.

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