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Wordman
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"Best novels of the decade"


  

          

surprised Janey didn't jump on the chance to post a list here.
I've been a little disappointed with some critic's list.
I'll be back in a bit with my list.
What say you?


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The Brief Wondrous Life of Oscar Wao, Lush Life, Blonde Faith...
Dec 30th 2009
1
I started reading Lush Life, but didn't finish
Dec 30th 2009
7
I'm a huge Mosely fan, but I hhonestly didn't like "Blonde Faith"
Dec 30th 2009
9
Oscar Wao's got my vote, loved Loved LOVED that book.
Dec 30th 2009
11
yep oscar wao
Jan 04th 2010
49
Blonde Faith was great but his best of this decade imo was "Black Betty"
Jan 11th 2010
82
It's a shame, but I RARELY read new novels.
Dec 30th 2009
2
6th grade? really
Jan 11th 2010
78
Cloud Atlas
Dec 30th 2009
3
The Corrections
Dec 30th 2009
4
I loved both of those
Dec 30th 2009
29
for real though, it's cloud atlas.
Dec 31st 2009
31
I don't read much, but these were highly engrossing,
Dec 30th 2009
5
The Electric Michelangelo in at #8
Jun 28th 2010
87
      You are CORRECT sir!
Jun 28th 2010
88
           RE: You are CORRECT sir!
Jun 28th 2010
89
                It kind of blew my mind
Jun 28th 2010
90
My List...
Dec 30th 2009
6
my list
Dec 31st 2009
32
all have been mentioned, but I'll jump in
Dec 30th 2009
8
you guys, I can't tell you how happy I am to see The Last Samurai
Dec 30th 2009
10
It appears I gotta add that and Cliud Atlas to my reading list
Dec 30th 2009
13
I couldn't find "Cloud Atlas" yesterday
Dec 31st 2009
34
      yeah, it's frustrating
Dec 31st 2009
35
      this book is always two sips from complete obscurity
Jan 07th 2010
64
It was because of you that I read it, and I'm sure that's the case
Dec 30th 2009
14
yup, I read both Cloud Atlas and Last Samurai on behalf of janey
Dec 30th 2009
17
yeah, there was a period of time a few years ago
Dec 30th 2009
19
same here.
Dec 30th 2009
20
Count me
Jan 04th 2010
61
I love Jess Walter, ran into him at breakfast a month ago
Jan 10th 2010
74
      I'm so envious!
Jan 11th 2010
79
A few off the top:
Dec 30th 2009
12
you know, if you liked Jonathan Strange
Dec 30th 2009
15
Cool. Thanks. I'll probably try both
Dec 30th 2009
16
i dunno if i would call the magicians more adult
Dec 31st 2009
38
      you know, I totally wasn't clear
Dec 31st 2009
39
jebus cripkey
Jan 04th 2010
51
Out Stealing Horses was a good (and quick) read
Dec 30th 2009
18
What is the What? - Dave Eggers
Dec 30th 2009
21
did you like it for style or for content?
Dec 30th 2009
24
RE: did you like it for style or for content?
Jan 08th 2010
68
      Have you read We Regret To Inform You That Tomorrow ...
Jan 08th 2010
69
           RE: Have you read We Regret To Inform You That Tomorrow ...
Jan 08th 2010
71
Currently reading this...
Dec 31st 2009
42
      John Henry Days - Colson Whitehead
Dec 31st 2009
43
      I can tell you what didn't work for me
Jan 04th 2010
47
The Road
Dec 30th 2009
22
Maybe not the best (I'm no critic), but my favorites:
Dec 30th 2009
23
people just love Then We Came To The End
Dec 30th 2009
25
      Perfect, this will kill my last few minutes of work
Dec 30th 2009
26
           first person plural
Dec 30th 2009
27
and my 5...
Dec 30th 2009
28
just logged in to cite this one
Dec 31st 2009
36
Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close- Safran Foer
Dec 30th 2009
30
co-sign that
Dec 31st 2009
33
You just reminded me...
Dec 31st 2009
41
Undeniably amazing.
Jan 02nd 2010
46
some more:
Dec 31st 2009
37
The Epicure's Lament isn't the best novel of the decade
Dec 31st 2009
40
it's now in my shopping cart
Jan 04th 2010
48
Ten pages from the end....
Jun 28th 2010
86
Lunar Park...
Jan 01st 2010
44
I read this book SO fast....
Jan 02nd 2010
45
oscar wao
Jan 04th 2010
50
Top 3 (off the top)
Jan 04th 2010
52
I have a very good feeling about Let The Great World Spin
Jan 04th 2010
53
      Me too
Jan 04th 2010
54
           I've read Saturday, and
Jan 04th 2010
56
                Enduring Love is a classic...
Jan 04th 2010
58
                     Atonement is really really great.
Jan 04th 2010
59
Town House - Tish Cohen
Jan 04th 2010
55
Just want to say that this is a great post
Jan 04th 2010
57
dear mods - ARCHIVE
Jan 07th 2010
65
These lists are all pretty US- and English-language-centric, huh?
Jan 04th 2010
60
Thank You PTP
Jan 05th 2010
62
RE: Thank You PTP
Jan 08th 2010
67
      I'd be up for a non-fiction list
Jan 10th 2010
73
           RE: I'd be up for a non-fiction list
Jan 11th 2010
80
                posted
Jan 11th 2010
81
RE: Best novels of the decade
Jan 06th 2010
63
RE: Best novels of the decade
Jan 07th 2010
66
yes i liked sag habor as well
Jan 08th 2010
70
Flight- Sherman Alexie
Jan 08th 2010
72
Don't read much contemporary stuff
Jan 11th 2010
75
I was just thinking this weekend
Jan 11th 2010
77
thanks for all this!
Jan 11th 2010
76
'Train' by Peter Dexter
Jan 11th 2010
83
these lists + Google bookshelf= yeah!
Feb 18th 2010
84
Can someone archive this post?
Jun 16th 2010
85
Okay, Read Oscar Wao off the strength of this post.
Jun 30th 2010
91

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1. "The Brief Wondrous Life of Oscar Wao, Lush Life, Blonde Faith..."
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7. "I started reading Lush Life, but didn't finish"
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Gonna give it a second pass in the new year.

  

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9. "I'm a huge Mosely fan, but I hhonestly didn't like "Blonde Faith""
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Just finished reading it a few weeks ago, and parts of it seemed really rushed and sloppy, which is never the case for Mosely in the past. I guess it was a fitting end for the Easy Rawlins storyline, but he done a very similar climax with the villains in "Bad Boy Brawly Brown."

I would include "cinammon Kiss" in the best of the decade, however.

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11. "Oscar Wao's got my vote, loved Loved LOVED that book."
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49. "yep oscar wao"
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82. "Blonde Faith was great but his best of this decade imo was "Black Betty""
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Fortunate Son and Fearless Jones are my other favorites as well

  

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2. "It's a shame, but I RARELY read new novels."
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I always get caught up in history and biography, and there hasn't been anything outside of the Harry Potter series that has caught me this decade... and really, the Harry Potters are solely because I got caught on them back in 6th grade.

I'll be watching this post to see what folks recommend though.

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78. "6th grade? really"
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3. "Cloud Atlas"
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4. "The Corrections"
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Jonathan Franzen's The Corrections is probably the novel i've enjoyed the most this decade while also thinking it is probably "the best" in whichever way we judge literature.

I'm also very pleased i've discovered the novelist Richard Powers and in the next few years will make my way through his body of work.

  

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29. "I loved both of those"
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PEACE

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31. "for real though, it's cloud atlas."
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5. "I don't read much, but these were highly engrossing,"
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Wed Dec-30-09 05:47 AM by Sponge

          

and I loved reading all of them:

1. Lush Life
2. The Night Gardener
3. The Road
4. The Last Samurai
5. Gilead
6. The Corrections
7. Home
8. Zeroville
9. Drama City
10. Then We Came To the End

Off the top.

  

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87. "The Electric Michelangelo in at #8"
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Unless I'm misremembering, that's another Janey approved novel.

  

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88. "You are CORRECT sir!"
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I cite that all the time for her really insightful discussion of tattoos.

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All life ends in death
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89. "RE: You are CORRECT sir!"
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I'm not seriously interested in tattoos (I love looking at tattoo models in magazines though), but those passages were damn awesome. I dug the prose, too. Unfussy, but far from pedestrian. Most of all, the emotional pull of the novel was pretty intense for me.

  

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90. "It kind of blew my mind"
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to think of how young she was when she wrote that novel, yet she was able to believably write about someone very different from her, including when he becomes old.

You know, contrast that with John Irving's idiotic book that centers on tattoos, Until I Find You, a book I despised so much that Amazon wouldn't print my review (no doubt because of my liberal use of the word "vagina", which YOU GUESSED IT Irving uses incorrectly throughout the book, despite the fact that vulvas are a prominent plot point). Irving is old enough to have life experience that would allow him to write convincingly, if he chose to, and yet he failed miserably.

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All life ends in death
- The Buddha

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6. "My List..."
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(1) Amazing Adventures of Kavalier and Clay by Michael Chabon (2000)- The best of the decade imo.

(2) Falling Man by Don DeLillo - besides Underworld, my favorite DeLillo novel.

(3) 2666 by Roberto Bolano - better than Savage Detectives.

(4) Netherland by Joseph O'Neill

(5) Let the Great World Spin by Colum McCann

(6) Middlesex by Jeffrey Eugenides

(7) Fortress of Solitude by Jonathan Lethem

(8) The Yiddish Policeman's Union by Chabon

(9) Lush Life by Richard Price

(10)Oscar Wao by Junot Diaz

I also enjoyed South of Broad by Pat Conroy. The story was a bit over the top, but the prose was beautiful, as always is the case with Conroy.

Those are the ones that jump out at me, but I need to look back at what I read and the years of publication because I'm always reading older stuff.

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32. "my list"
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1) graceland
2) cloud atlas
3) oscar wao
4) jonathan strange
5) the known world
6) animal's people
7) the android's dream or agent to the stars (they're not tight novels but they're witty and interesting and have some redeaming qualities....scalzi is a genius)
8) caramelo
9) the book of lost things
10) world war z, fuck it.

cavalier and clay doesn't count for this decade, or i guess it does if 2009 is when we're doing it? i liked the final solution most by chabon this decade but its a novella. i liked the savage detectives more than 2666 but neither would make my list.

  

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8. "all have been mentioned, but I'll jump in"
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Cloud Atlas
Middlesex
Oscar Wao
Last Samurai
The Savage Detectives (still reading 2666)

*scans post and starts new amazon wish list*

  

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10. "you guys, I can't tell you how happy I am to see The Last Samurai"
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on so many lists. And Cloud Atlas. You know those are two huge favorites of mine.

I just finished one that I love and I don't know if it's going to make the grade on longterm favorites but I do want to recommend it: The God of War, by Marissa Silver.

I don't know if I can list my favorites from this decade, but I do know that Cloud Atlas and The Last Samurai would top the list and I'm pretty clear that Netherland goes on that list, too.

Hmm, maybe The Zero, by Jess Walter. Or maybe Citizen Vince. I always have a hard time deciding between those two.
Plowing the Dark, by Richard Powers
The Human Stain, by Philip Roth (I think the last two were both published in 2000)
Erasure, by Percival Everett. Or pick any Percival Everett from the decade and put it on the list. Erasure is a standout book but so is Wounded, so is God's Country.

Let me chew on this some more.


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All acquisition ends in dispersion
All life ends in death
- The Buddha

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13. "It appears I gotta add that and Cliud Atlas to my reading list"
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I've got two huge fricking stacks of books to read, all of with many stacks of DVDs to watch, and CDs to lsiten to.

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34. "I couldn't find "Cloud Atlas" yesterday"
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Went to both Borders and Barnes and Noble, and it t'was not on the shelves. I'm planning on hitting up another few book stores, but I may have to turn to Amazon. Found a bunch of the other books though.

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35. "yeah, it's frustrating"
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despite being a finalist for the Booker the year it came out, it has never been a best seller.

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All meetings end in separation
All acquisition ends in dispersion
All life ends in death
- The Buddha

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64. "this book is always two sips from complete obscurity"
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after you read it, you'll wonder why it's not everybody's favorite book ever.
yeah, it's that good.


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14. "It was because of you that I read it, and I'm sure that's the case"
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for some others here.

  

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17. "yup, I read both Cloud Atlas and Last Samurai on behalf of janey"
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I liked Cloud Atlas alot more, but Last Samurai was still good.

  

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19. "yeah, there was a period of time a few years ago"
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when I was twisting everyone's arm to read that one LOL

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All life ends in death
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20. "same here."
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61. "Count me"
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I don't even really come here often, but that was a period when I was.

Really liked Last Samurai, but I've never been able to finish Cloud Atlas.

  

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74. "I love Jess Walter, ran into him at breakfast a month ago"
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waiting to catch him again so I can get Citizen Vince signed. He is a very funny dude.

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79. "I'm so envious!"
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but you know I emailed him back about a year ago and asked him to write another book and he responded. He seems like a very nice guy!


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All acquisition ends in dispersion
All life ends in death
- The Buddha

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12. "A few off the top:"
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American Gods - Neil Gaiman
Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell - Susanna Clarke
White Boy Shuffle - Paul Beatty
Bad Boy Brawly Brown - Walter Mosely
The Hot Kid - Elmore Leonard
No Country For Old Men - Cormac McCarthy
Angry Black White Boy - Adam Mansbach (very flawed, but still well-written)

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15. "you know, if you liked Jonathan Strange"
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I think you would also like The Magicians, by Lev Grossman. It's modern era, so if you liked Jonathan Strange for the period detail I would switch my rec to Charles Palliser's The Quincunx. But if it's the more adult take on magic etc., then try the Grossman.

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All acquisition ends in dispersion
All life ends in death
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16. "Cool. Thanks. I'll probably try both"
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I still got some holiday money left over, and I already spent what I wanted on music.

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38. "i dunno if i would call the magicians more adult"
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i liked it, but i think that was more about knowing people like the main characters and a deep attachment to the narnia books

  

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39. "you know, I totally wasn't clear"
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What I meant by "more adult" was "more adult than the Harry Potter series", so even though it seemed like I was saying that The Magicians was a more adult take on magic than Jonathan Strange, what I really meant was that Jonathan Strange is a book about magic targeted at adults and so is The Magicians.

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51. "jebus cripkey"
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i forgot neil gaiman
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18. "Out Stealing Horses was a good (and quick) read"
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maybe not "novel of the DECADE!" good, but....worth your time.

  

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21. "What is the What? - Dave Eggers"
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24. "did you like it for style or for content?"
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If style, you should take a look at Zeitoun, his latest, which is another horrifying story that he tells after extensive interviews with the people involved.

If content, you might also appreciate Tracy Kidder's new one, Strength in What Remains.

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68. "RE: did you like it for style or for content?"
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>If style, you should take a look at Zeitoun, his latest,
>which is another horrifying story that he tells after
>extensive interviews with the people involved.
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>If content, you might also appreciate Tracy Kidder's new one,
>Strength in What Remains.


Thanks for the recs.

I liked for both style and content.

I started this book immediately after reading 'A LONG WAY GONE Memoirs of a Boy Soldier' by ISHMAEL BEAH SARAH. (gets an honorable mention) I went through a period where I was reading (non-fiction) titles surrounding the plight of my African people. (Darfur, Rwanda, Sierre Leone, etc.)

While reading the book I had to remind myself that is was a novel and not a true autobiography. This made his "voice" easier to follow especially when he was, at times, "addressing" his narrative the other characters rather than the reader. I know some readers who didn't like this convention. I thought it was well done.

I was simply overwhelmed while reading this. A few strategicly placed 'LOL moments' had me from one end to the emotional spectrum to the other.

I would not have survived.

  

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69. "Have you read We Regret To Inform You That Tomorrow ..."
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We Will Be Killed With Our Families?

I think that's the single most effective book on the Rwanda genocide. It gives a lot of detail but doesn't overwhelm the reader with SO much political detail as to be completely confusing (and you know that's a very confusing and conflicted region). But I find Gourevitch to have a greater grasp of how to reach his readers' emotions than Eggers is. But I think that's true in all of Eggers' writing. Look at the first 120 pages of A Heartbreaking Work of Staggering Genius. In some ways, it's the best description of the impact of parents' death on a family, but maybe it's such a good description because his emotions never really enter into it.

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71. "RE: Have you read We Regret To Inform You That Tomorrow ..."
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I agree. Excellent book.

  

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42. "Currently reading this..."
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...it's not hitting me the way I want it to. Can't put my finger on it though. But it is making reading this book somewhat of a chore.

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43. "John Henry Days - Colson Whitehead"
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White Teeth - Zadie Smith
A Heartbreaking Work... - Dave Eggers

Those are some of my faves.

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47. "I can tell you what didn't work for me"
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I felt that Valentino's voice was too distant, like he would describe events and I wouldn't *feel* them, or he would even talk about his feelings and I would think that it sounded like someone told him he should feel some way about it but that he himself didn't feel it. I completely blamed Eggers, and then I saw the two of them speak together, and the thing is that Eggers has really caught his voice. Unfortunately, a really accurate transcription sometimes doesn't catch the emotional truth behind the words, if you know what I mean. When I read Zeitoun, I had the same sense. I'm sure Eggers is as accurate a chronicler with them as he was with Valentino, but again, that doesn't mean that the book really gets inside me and holds on, even though both stories, in themselves, should be profoundly affecting.

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22. "The Road"
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23. "Maybe not the best (I'm no critic), but my favorites:"
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Kavalier & Clay
Netherland
Then We Came to the End
Empire Falls

  

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25. "people just love Then We Came To The End"
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You know he has a new one out?

Could you tell me what you liked about that book? I started it and couldn't really get into it. I don't know if it was me or the book. I mean, obviously, it was me in some sense or other. I just don't know if it was me being distracted or me really just not liking the book.

Anyway, have you read Kings of Infinite Space, by James Hynes? The portion of Then We Came To The End kind of reminded me of that one (which I really liked, by the way, and maybe I didn't like the other because it reminded me too much of that one? I dunno). Anyway, I'd like to hear from you and others what that book did for you.

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26. "Perfect, this will kill my last few minutes of work"
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For me, it's a near-perfect description of office life (obviously much more eventful and interesting--if it was an exact replication of my work experiences, the only way it could sell any copies would be if it was appropriately titled, "Fuck this Shit").

I typically don't enjoy things based solely upon the "I can identify with this" criterion, but the story was just that well done...the manner in which rumors begin and grow, the small frustrations, the uselessness of HR policy, the generally indifferent relationships among co-workers. It really is good because it's true.

From a stylistic perspective, I feel his use of the first-person plural is clever. It's inviting to the reader, and induces him or her to make a connection with the characters. An argument against this might be, "If it's such a good book, why does he have to essentially trick the reader into liking or identifying with the characters?" It's because we generally don't have any real connection to our co-workers. We're lumped together by circumstance, and the use of 'we' in the book reinforces that.

And no, I have not read The Kings of Infinite Space. I just might place that in the queue, which has grown considerably longer since my roommate bought an Xbox 360.

  

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27. "first person plural"
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Have you read The Virgin Suicides? Eugenides uses the first person plural *so* perfectly in that novel.

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28. "and my 5..."
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The Savage Detectives - Roberto Bolano
The Fortress of Solitude - Jonathan Lethem
The Known World - Edward P. Jones
Atonement - Ian McEwan
Middlesex - Jeffrey Eugenides


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36. "just logged in to cite this one "
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>Middlesex - Jeffrey Eugenides
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I'd like to see more authors incorporating real life mysterious characters into their work like Eugenides did


was fascinating how he tied Fard Muhammad's history in with Desdemona's

  

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30. "Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close- Safran Foer "
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easily the best work of fiction on 9/11 we have imo

  

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33. "co-sign that"
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it really was brilliant.




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41. "You just reminded me..."
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...I never read that book.

Thanks.

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46. "Undeniably amazing."
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37. "some more:"
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The Road
The Human Stain
Gilead

  

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40. "The Epicure's Lament isn't the best novel of the decade"
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But I haven't seen it mentioned and I think it's pretty good. It's by Kate Christensen and it's one of those small books where you can just tell she was having great fun writing it. That's worth something.

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48. "it's now in my shopping cart"
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thanks for the rec!

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86. "Ten pages from the end...."
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I bought it almost immediately when you recommended it, but I didn't actually read it until now. I was tempted to rush through the last ten pages this morning before leaving for work, but I decided to hold out until the evening.

It is exactly as you said -- it seems like Christensen really had fun writing it. Thanks for the recommendation -- Hugo reminds me SO MUCH of one of my best friends that I'm going to send him the book when I finish it

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44. "Lunar Park..."
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NM

  

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45. "I read this book SO fast...."
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it's a great page-turner.....but I wouldn't call it one of the best of the decade. Didn't really feel the ending.

And speaking of Ellis...I'm re-reading American Psycho. This is one of the best novels EVER written, fuck a decade!

  

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50. "oscar wao"
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life of pi

the time travelers wife

fledgling

american gods / anasi boys

yeesh i'm back

the intuitionist/john henry days

erasure

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52. "Top 3 (off the top)"
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I'd have to go back and think about this more to put together 10.

1) The Corrections
2) The Savage Detectives
3) Netherland

Have now added Middlesex, Cloud Atlas and Last Samurai to my list. Currently reading 2666 with Let the Great World Spin up next.

I still don't understand the outpouring of love for Oscar Wao. I was severely underwhelmed by that book esp. considering how much I loved Drown.

I'll def be checking back on this for more recs.

  

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53. "I have a very good feeling about Let The Great World Spin"
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even though I haven't read it yet LOL

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54. "Me too"
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I also have "The Glass Room" and "Saturday" by McEwan on deck. Have you read either of those?

  

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56. "I've read Saturday, and"
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I think it works better than it should, given the framework of the novel (I was gonna say "gimmick" but decided that was too mean a characterization). I think that McEwan is just a really great writer, but I also think that Saturday isn't on a par with Atonement or Undying Love. Is that what it's called? No, Enduring Love. On the other hand, I think he really dropped the ball with On Chesil Beach, which I find similar to and no better than Philip Roth's Indignation.

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58. "Enduring Love is a classic..."
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I haven't read "Atonment" but def intend to at some point... I wasn't a fan of "Amsterdam" at all and hope "Saturday" isn't along those same lines in terms of gimmicks...

  

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59. "Atonement is really really great."
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I never saw the movie, even though people said it was great. It's one of those books that I didn't want to risk sullying with a poor visual representation.

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55. "Town House - Tish Cohen"
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very funny and touching book.

  

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57. "Just want to say that this is a great post"
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I got a whole bunch of great recommendations here, and a whole new stack of books that I need to find the time to plow through.

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65. "dear mods - ARCHIVE"
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'Cause you know it's gonna be months before I get through all suggestions listed here.


"Your current frequencies of understanding outweigh that which has been given for you to understand." Saul Williams

  

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60. "These lists are all pretty US- and English-language-centric, huh?"
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Among works that have been translated into English, I'd go with
W.G. Sebald- Austerlitz
Orhan Pamuk- Snow
Javier Marias- Your Face Tomorrow
and Roberto Bolano- 2666

  

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62. "Thank You PTP"
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i really dont delve into contemporary lit/novels much, but i've compiled 8 books to read from yalls list.

of the ones i have read White Teeth by Zadie Smith and Asphalt by Carl Hancock Rux were theee shit

  

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67. "RE: Thank You PTP"
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cosign.

I've added at least ten titles to my reading list based on your recommendations.

Thanks.


(How about a non-fiction version of this thread?)


  

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73. "I'd be up for a non-fiction list"
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80. "RE: I'd be up for a non-fiction list"
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81. "posted"
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63. "RE: Best novels of the decade"
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ARCHIVE please

  

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66. "RE: Best novels of the decade"
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Colson Whitehead- Sag Harbor
Stieg Larsson- Girl w/the Dragon Tattoo and Girl Who Played w/Fire
Edward Jones- The Known World
Junot Diaz- Oscar Wao
Aravind Adiga- The White Tiger
Jhumpa Lahiri- Interpreter of Maladies
Mario Vargas Llosa- The Bad Girl (prolly my fave)


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70. "yes i liked sag habor as well"
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72. "Flight- Sherman Alexie"
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>surprised Janey didn't jump on the chance to post a list
>here.
>I've been a little disappointed with some critic's list.
>I'll be back in a bit with my list.
>What say you?
>
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>"Your current frequencies of understanding outweigh that which
>has been given for you to understand." Saul Williams

  

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Lil Rabies
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75. "Don't read much contemporary stuff"
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I liked "Sacred Games" though.

Taking shots in the dark/that's a bad call
Going straight for your head/ gotta saw it off

  

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77. "I was just thinking this weekend"
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that I didn't know why that one didn't make any top 100 lists that I've seen. I loved that book.

~ ~ ~
All meetings end in separation
All acquisition ends in dispersion
All life ends in death
- The Buddha

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='_'=

  

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universally_speaking
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76. "thanks for all this!"
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____________________________
Bringin it to you live in stere-ere-o.

  

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dunk
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83. "'Train' by Peter Dexter "
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http://www.amazon.com/Train-Pete-Dexter/dp/037571409X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1263257497&sr=8-1

All I can really say is that it's arguably the best book I've ever read. Definite one of the best in this past decade. Came out in '05. I strongly recommend that everyone check it out.

'Drama City' by George Pelecanos

'The Savage Detectives' by Roberto Bolaņo (technically it came out in '98 but it wasn't published in the U.S. til '07

  

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ACRG
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84. "these lists + Google bookshelf= yeah!"
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o00o

  

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85. "Can someone archive this post?"
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anyone want to create a definitive list based on the suggestions here?

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91. "Okay, Read Oscar Wao off the strength of this post."
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Fuck Yeah, OKP. Planning to read Cloud Atlas next. Thanks Y'all.

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