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"The Master (Paul Thomas Anderson, 2012)"


  

          

First trailer.

http://www.themasterfilm.com/
http://youtu.be/9oZDKFoCqAw

Personally, There Will Be Blood put PTA into the 'will watch everything he does from now on' category, so, I will be watching this -- excitedly.

  

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RE: The Master (Paul Thomas Anderson, 2012)
May 21st 2012
1
yes and second most.
May 21st 2012
3
      Out of curiosity, what's number one? n/m
May 21st 2012
6
           Prometheus
May 21st 2012
7
Brilliant
May 21st 2012
2
Dig it nm
May 21st 2012
4
The just screend 4 minutes at Cannes
May 21st 2012
5
TIGHT. Glad to see Joaquin back too.
May 21st 2012
8
RE: TIGHT. Glad to see Joaquin back too.
May 21st 2012
9
Okay I'm in.
May 21st 2012
10
Love it.....also, with the movies named above, Punch Drunk Love is
May 21st 2012
11
I'm down
May 21st 2012
12
Ah, the wait is always worth it with PTA
May 22nd 2012
13
Looks great. Hope it causes a shitstorm.
May 22nd 2012
14
Joaquin back in full form with PTA at the helm
May 22nd 2012
15
'STROOONG' (c) Joaquin
May 22nd 2012
16
Nice to see no complaints about the Jonny Greenwood score so far
May 27th 2012
17
Check out his score for "Norwegian Wood" as well
May 27th 2012
18
i had no idea there was a film adaptation of this
May 29th 2012
21
Good lookin out & will do. We Need to Talk About Kevin as well.
May 31st 2012
26
i was watchin there will be blood yesterday...
May 29th 2012
22
      HAHAHA
Jun 22nd 2012
33
      yep
Jul 23rd 2012
42
      haha.
Sep 19th 2012
59
      HEY LOOK THIS GUY HAS A GIRLFRIEND
Sep 26th 2012
79
Intrigued
May 28th 2012
19
PTA'S also a master. i rekn anyways.
May 29th 2012
20
So I've read that this is a fictional take on the
May 29th 2012
23
Wow....would have never guessed that from the trailer
May 29th 2012
24
      PTA won't disappoint, it should be ok.
May 30th 2012
25
      I was starting to wonder if they scrapped the Scientology thing too
May 31st 2012
27
           It really does.
May 31st 2012
28
                the PSH character is said to be the L Ron Hubbard figure
May 31st 2012
29
                I still remember those DIANETICS ads back in the day
May 31st 2012
30
                it's about scientology
Jun 19th 2012
31
                     RE: it's about scientology
Jul 23rd 2012
43
OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG
Jun 22nd 2012
32
And now, the poster (links)
Jul 19th 2012
34
less the half full/empty, my mind went to holy water or snake oil
Jul 19th 2012
35
      Yeah, I thought baptism myself.
Jul 19th 2012
36
           also, the general nautical motif
Jul 19th 2012
37
Full trailer
Jul 19th 2012
38
I wanted to go full blackout
Jul 19th 2012
39
Yeah. I'm avoiding everything from here on out.
Jul 19th 2012
40
man oh man
Jul 20th 2012
41
Sweet! Ol' Man Harv movin' this up to Sept. 14/21 (swipe)
Jul 28th 2012
44
Sounds like a good move for building buzz
Jul 28th 2012
45
So this secretly screened in LA last night... (zero spoilers)
Aug 04th 2012
46
Not surprised by this particular point
Aug 04th 2012
47
Chanhassen Dinner Theatre!
Aug 04th 2012
48
New Trailer
Aug 15th 2012
49
That Greenwood woodwind score sounds beautiful n/m
Aug 15th 2012
50
I've seen this shit twice now and I'm still marinating on it.
Sep 14th 2012
51
P.T. Anderson's first misfire.
Sep 15th 2012
52
I watched it last night and feel the same way
Sep 15th 2012
53
co-sign all of these thoughts.
Sep 23rd 2012
67
It's incredibly odd
Sep 15th 2012
54
My boy said it the best
Sep 16th 2012
55
You didn't understand why he would stay?
Sep 22nd 2012
61
      on point:
Oct 04th 2012
93
I'm VERY interested.
Sep 17th 2012
56
these mixed-to-negative reactions excite me
Sep 18th 2012
57
Me too. Pete Holmes' tweet got me most excited:
Sep 18th 2012
58
Beautifully made. Phoenix is remarkable. An absolute must-see.
Sep 22nd 2012
60
The storytelling is flat. There's no forward momentum.
Sep 22nd 2012
62
I didn't feel it was flat, just less outwardly dealt with.
Sep 22nd 2012
64
Good grief
Sep 22nd 2012
63
      This is NOT a movie about cults. So there's your problem.
Sep 22nd 2012
65
           It wasn't about a cult? ok
Sep 22nd 2012
66
                ... it's not about the cult. Seriously.
Sep 23rd 2012
68
                     Look i understood all of that
Sep 23rd 2012
71
solid b+
Sep 23rd 2012
69
agreed on both points, might even be an A- for me but I'll wait
Oct 13th 2012
94
Amazingly acted and directed tragicomedy (spoilers)
Sep 23rd 2012
70
yeah the pig fuck line had me rollin..lol
Sep 24th 2012
73
incredible, maybe my fave PTA effort so far
Sep 23rd 2012
72
remember where we met.
Sep 24th 2012
74
The juxtaposition of all the early water scenes...
Sep 24th 2012
75
nice write-up
Sep 25th 2012
76
RE: remember where we met.
Sep 25th 2012
78
a marvelously well-crafted film
Sep 25th 2012
77
Loved the film.
Sep 27th 2012
80
Can anyone explain the shot at the beginning of the film?
Sep 27th 2012
81
I thought he was thinking of cutting his hand
Sep 28th 2012
82
      I think he's talking about the actual look of the shot itself...
Sep 28th 2012
85
           probably the widest angle in the film
Sep 28th 2012
87
                ^^^ this
Oct 01st 2012
88
                Thanks for your input
Oct 19th 2012
97
deleted scenes/alternate takes
Sep 28th 2012
83
that is insane
Sep 28th 2012
86
Really liked it. If anything there was too much plot.
Sep 28th 2012
84
GOAT love story.
Oct 01st 2012
89
I'm facepalming at niggas calling this plotless.
Oct 03rd 2012
90
Yep. Dodd's story has a clear arc too.
Oct 04th 2012
92
*smh*
Oct 03rd 2012
91
The Mehster
Oct 15th 2012
95
How's the coffee industry?
Oct 19th 2012
96
Those were some good boobs in this film.
Oct 23rd 2012
98
finally got around to this
Mar 08th 2013
99
Thinking back, the jail cell scene was incredible
Mar 11th 2013
101
One powerhouse scene after another
Mar 10th 2013
100
uhh i connected emotionally to TWBB
Mar 12th 2013
102
      How? Which characters did you care about on that level?
Mar 12th 2013
103
      I guess you could feel bad for Plainview's son...
Mar 12th 2013
104
      You could feel bad for Plainview ABANDONING HIS CHIIIIIIIIILD!!!
Mar 12th 2013
105
      i have a very visceral/"emotional" reaction
Mar 12th 2013
107
      same here
Mar 12th 2013
106

The Analyst
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1. "RE: The Master (Paul Thomas Anderson, 2012)"
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>Personally, There Will Be Blood put PTA into the 'will watch
>everything he does from now on' category, so, I will be
>watching this -- excitedly.

Boogie Nights put him in that category for me. The Master is probably my most anticipated film this year.

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3. "yes and second most."
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>Boogie Nights put him in that category for me. The Master is
>probably my most anticipated film this year.

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6. "Out of curiosity, what's number one? n/m"
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7. "Prometheus"
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Gravity was right up there as well, until it got pushed into 2013

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2. "Brilliant"
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4. "Dig it nm"
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5. "The just screend 4 minutes at Cannes"
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And the reactions sound extremely positive so far...

(Unrelated: They also screened 7 minutes of Django Unchained. I haven't read any reactions yet though...)

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8. "TIGHT. Glad to see Joaquin back too."
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9. "RE: TIGHT. Glad to see Joaquin back too."
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Sounded nothing like Joaquin. Didn't realize it was him until he was shown.

  

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10. "Okay I'm in."
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I really only love Boogie Nights, but PTA films are always interesting.

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11. "Love it.....also, with the movies named above, Punch Drunk Love is"
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my fav romantic movie....quirky i know, but I love that movie to pieces.

  

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12. "I'm down"
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13. "Ah, the wait is always worth it with PTA"
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Joaquin is going full tilt with this one (he always does) but with PTA, I think his full crazy will be on beautiful display. I'm looking forward to PSH's performance too. Those two on screen at the same time is going to be amazing.

  

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14. "Looks great. Hope it causes a shitstorm. "
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15. "Joaquin back in full form with PTA at the helm"
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Looks very very very good.

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16. "'STROOONG' (c) Joaquin"
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Tue May-22-12 04:00 PM by IkeMoses

  

          

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You know it's drama, but it sound real good.

  

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17. "Nice to see no complaints about the Jonny Greenwood score so far"
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I loved There Will Be Blood's & this one sounds great so far as well. Then again I just somewhat recently fell in love with Radiohead so maybe I'm a bit biased.

  

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18. "Check out his score for "Norwegian Wood" as well"
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Mainly Haruki Murakami fans are in the know cause it was a film adaptation of his bestselling book but this is Greenwood's best work to date in my opinion. Greenwood is in a more soft sounding, almost melodramatic orchestral mood in this one, as opposed to the syncopating beats and ramped up tension in PTA's film (equally awesome).


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21. "i had no idea there was a film adaptation of this"
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i'm a longtime Murakami fan.

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26. "Good lookin out & will do. We Need to Talk About Kevin as well."
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22. "i was watchin there will be blood yesterday..."
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and my girlfriend was in the other room. after about 20 minutes she came out and was like "what the fuck are you watching? this music is giving me anxiety."

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33. "HAHAHA"
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42. "yep"
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That's about right!

I can do a split and turn around like Alvin Ailey

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59. "haha."
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79. "HEY LOOK THIS GUY HAS A GIRLFRIEND"
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19. "Intrigued"
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20. "PTA'S also a master. i rekn anyways."
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P-DL is my fav film of all-time so that may be colouring my statement JUST A SKOCHE. cant wait to see this.

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23. "So I've read that this is a fictional take on the "
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formation of Scientology or some fictional off-shoot , I can't wait to see PTA take on this subject matter. I've read an article where he actually had Tom Cruise critique the film and I guess make sure it wasn't to harsh on Scientology..lol.
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24. "Wow....would have never guessed that from the trailer"
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I kinda hope that's not true lol. I was hoping it would go in a much different direction.

  

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25. "PTA won't disappoint, it should be ok."
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27. "I was starting to wonder if they scrapped the Scientology thing too"
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If they kept it then it makes the trailer even more intriguing

  

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28. "It really does. "
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I'm sitting here trying to figure out how that could relate to the scientology stuff, and I just don't see it at all. Either way, I'm extremely interested.

  

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29. "the PSH character is said to be the L Ron Hubbard figure"
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my guess is the trailer is Joaquin Phoenix's character being in an emotionally/mentally vulnerable state that makes him ripe to follow a cult-ish figure

  

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30. "I still remember those DIANETICS ads back in the day"
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& not having a clue about Scientology then either

>my guess is the trailer is Joaquin Phoenix's character being
>in an emotionally/mentally vulnerable state that makes him
>ripe to follow a cult-ish figure

Exactly how I saw it as well

  

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31. "it's about scientology"
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Note how this military debriefing/inspection resembles a scientology audit.

It ends on the officer saying he'll help Phoenix remember a forgotten incident. So much if Scientology is geared around coerced "remembering" things suppressed and from past lives.

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43. "RE: it's about scientology"
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The story goes that Jeremy Blake (who did the abstract hallucination stuff in Punch Drunk Love) and his fiancée committed a mysterious suicide that may have been provoked by Scientology harassment. PTA took their deaths to heart and that's allegedly when the roots of this script started. Vanity Fair wrote a phenomenal piece on the whole Blake story a few years back, right here:

http://vanityfair.com/culture/features/2008/01/suicides200801

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32. "OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG"
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PTA, PSH, the Phoenix, Amy Adams

shiiieeettt

  

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34. "And now, the poster (links)"
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http://i.huffpost.com/gen/692608/original.jpg

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/18/the-master-poster-paul-thomas-anderson_n_1684776.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000003&utm_hp_ref=fb&src=sp&comm_ref=false

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35. "less the half full/empty, my mind went to holy water or snake oil"
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36. "Yeah, I thought baptism myself."
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37. "also, the general nautical motif"
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L Ron was a former naval officer and the experience heavily influenced the structure of his church (Sea Org, etc.).

It looks like Phoenix's character is a former navy guy as well.

There's a boat, river, and a beach in the two trailers. A Master is also an (antiquated, admittedly) naval rank.

So I expect a lot of water in this movie.

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38. "Full trailer"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnovAgwS1V4&feature=player_embedded

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39. "I wanted to go full blackout"
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but I couldn't help myself.

Damn, I can't wait for its release.

  

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40. "Yeah. I'm avoiding everything from here on out."
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If I have the will power.

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41. "man oh man"
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PTA knows an iconic visual when he sees one. goddamn.

  

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44. "Sweet! Ol' Man Harv movin' this up to Sept. 14/21 (swipe)"
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deadline.com/hollywood:

>Weinstein Shifts ‘The Master’ To Sept. 14th

By THE DEADLINE TEAM | Friday July 27, 2012 @ 5:57pm PDT

The Weinstein Company has confirmed moving Paul Thomas Anderson’s The Master to a limited opening on September 14 from its original date October 12. The movie will add theaters on September 21.

Philip Seymour Hoffman stars as the charismatic central figure of the movie, which some have suggested is a thinly veiled take on Scientology but Anderson has said it is not. Amy Adams and Joaquin Phoenix also star.

Additionally Weinstein is moving the Brad Pitt drama Killing Them Softly to October 19 from September 21. The Master now will be opening against the wide releases of Disney/Pixar’s remastered-in-3D Finding Nemo and Sony/Screen Gems’ Resident Evil: Retribution. Other movies opening in limited release September 14 will be Summit’s The Perks Of Being A Wildflower, IFC’s Liberal Arts and UTV’s Barfi!

Director Andrew Dominik and Pitt’s Killing Them Softly will be up against a pair of other wide releases October 19, Alex Cross from Summit and Paramount’s Paranormal Activity 4 plus IFC’s The Loneliest Planet and Paramount Vantage’s Not Fade Away.

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45. "Sounds like a good move for building buzz"
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Though it probably means it'll make an excruciatingly slow crawl towards my theater.

  

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46. "So this secretly screened in LA last night... (zero spoilers)"
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They told people after a screening of The Shining to stick around if they wanted to see something special. Maybe they stayed for that, maybe they saw PTA/Maya skulking about, or maybe the Weinsteins leaked to them that it was going down.

Either way, a slew of folks saw it last night.

General word I've read is it's more inaccessible and strange than TWBB, with fewer memorable one-liners for the public to cling to-- "a fever dream," one person called it. Apparently people think this movie isn't destined for box office as a result... at least upon initial pre-rewards release.

Still, everyone who saw it loved it, singling out Adams as doing the best work of her life and Phoenix as a potential Oscar lock. Folks aren't sure whether PSH would be nominated in lead or supporting, but obviously great work from him.

I really only read five or six brief thoughts on the film and then thought, "Nope! I'm good! Don't need any more!"

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47. "Not surprised by this particular point"
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>Still, everyone who saw it loved it, singling out Adams as
>doing the best work of her life

She looked *focused* in that trailer.

  

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48. "Chanhassen Dinner Theatre!"
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>singling out Adams as
>doing the best work of her life

She's wonderful.

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49. "New Trailer"
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Not a Weinstein link, so I'm not sure if it will stay up.

http://youtu.be/JFkFEzFp-Ac

*not watching*

  

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50. "That Greenwood woodwind score sounds beautiful n/m"
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51. "I've seen this shit twice now and I'm still marinating on it."
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The first time, I really enjoyed it. The second time, it was a fucking chore to sit through. Other than PSH who has the best performance to me and Joaquin Phoenix, there ain't much else there. Everyone I've talked to says it's missing something and I agree that it doesn't achieve what it sets out to do. There Will Be Blood is much better.

*EDIT* Saw it in 70MM both times. I wish more films would shoot in 70MM. The contrast in the picture is incredible.

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52. "P.T. Anderson's first misfire."
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I agree with bwood in that it's missing something, and that's a story. That's a plot. That's a narrative to give these characters something to latch on to.

Loved the performances from Joaquin Phoenix and PSH, as well as the humor and the boobs, but there was no narrative glue to put it and hold it altogether...

So even though I wasn't expecting There Will Be Blood 2 or More Boogier Nights!, it was a letdown for me. He's got these great characters that should be... doing stuff. And they do, but there was no connective tissue that engaged me. Maybe upon subsequent viewings I'll see something I didn't see in this first viewing... *shrugs*

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53. "I watched it last night and feel the same way"
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The story was missing. The acting all around was amazing but it missed a story, I felt lost watching it

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67. "co-sign all of these thoughts."
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I don't know whether I'm missing something that will make sense later or if it will never make sense to me.

  

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54. "It's incredibly odd"
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He's kind of taken the disjointed style of There Will Be Blood even further here.There really isn't much of a plot and I think the middle of the movie suffers a bit because of that. It lacks the narrative momentum of PTA's earlier work and suffers a bit because of it. Phoenix and Hoffman are fantastic but Ive seen them both be better. Amy Adams is incredible too.



Still though, I was never bored and would see it again in the theater.


  

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55. "My boy said it the best"
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"A big problem with it is various things happen and go nowhere. I know its about a deeply troubled character but only because I've watched enough films to get Phoenix's character is like that. But two hours of an actor just occasionally flipping out is not character. Character is having a goal and having your actions be reflected by said goal. Your characters actions being a reflection of your characters craziness is a reflection of shoddy screenwriting."

Also, we talked about Phoenix's character Freddie sticking around for as long as he did. The character was an alcoholic drifter. Why did he stick around with Lancaster and The Cause for so long? It's not in his nature. Also. I felt they needed more people questioning or threatening The Cause cause we only get a glimpse of it in 3 scenes. I loved how Lancaster froze up and cursed up a storm whenever someone showed how full of shit his theories were.

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61. "You didn't understand why he would stay?"
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>Also, we talked about Phoenix's character Freddie sticking
>around for as long as he did. The character was an alcoholic
>drifter. Why did he stick around with Lancaster and The Cause
>for so long? It's not in his nature.

I mean, they spell it out pretty clearly in the jail scene where Dodd says that no one likes Freddy other than him.

Dodd has given a lost soul something to cling to, and Freddy's frustrations which ensue are a result of realizing this man who has made him feel moments of peace and this man who truly cares for him might also be totally full of shit. That's perhaps Freddy's core conflict: the hope that this could anchor him vs. the sneaking realization that it's bullshit. At the end, he knows it's bullshit but still wants to be around it.

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93. "on point:"
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>Freddy's
>frustrations which ensue are a result of realizing this man
>who has made him feel moments of peace and this man who truly
>cares for him might also be totally full of shit. That's
>perhaps Freddy's core conflict: the hope that this could
>anchor him vs. the sneaking realization that it's bullshit.

-30-
You know it's drama, but it sound real good.

  

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56. "I'm VERY interested. "
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57. "these mixed-to-negative reactions excite me"
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cos thats exactly how i felt about Punch-Drunk Love the first six, yes SIX times i saw it. wasn't til viewing 7ish (out of i dunno how many by now) that i fell in love with it (and it still sits at the top of my GOAT films list). his films still retain value even without narrative glue (for moi).

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58. "Me too. Pete Holmes' tweet got me most excited:"
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"I left The Master knowing I had seen something amazing but not sure what to make of the whole. And I've thought about nothing since."

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60. "Beautifully made. Phoenix is remarkable. An absolute must-see."
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Not sure why people think there's no story here. We've got a couple of stories here. On the Dodd side, the love triangle between Dodd, the wife, and Freddy. On Freddy's side, we have a man coping with absurd levels of sexual neurosis learning how to live something resembling a normal life. Both stories have beginnings, middles, ends-- characters change, reveal, struggle.

This movie is WAY more intimate than PTA's silly "70mm campaign" would have you believe. It's way closer to Punch Drunk Love than anything else.

The writing is outstanding. The first procession scene is going to be one of the scenes in PTA's career people talk about forever. The very small and subtle ways you see Dodd's loneliness and inadequacy reveal itself behind the bluster, the imagery PTA creates for you early on.

It does slow down and drag a bit at the end (it does lack a traditional Act 3 that we're used to), but predominantly because we're watching Freddy's repetition in attempting to grasp onto this Cause, to find this meaning, as Dodd refuses to let Freddy off the hook, clinging to him.

I thought it was exciting filmmaking, intimate and at times poetic. Scene after terrific scene. Phoenix, Hoffman, and Adams are all terrific, but boy oh boy, Phoenix truly nails it here. I'd be surprised if we see a better leading man performance this year. His body language... like his insecurities and inadequacies and internal disease are eating himself from the inside.

It is a little less accessible emotionally than previous PTA, as The Cause is all about restraint of emotion. You don't feel that same level of emotional catharsis at the end, which is mildly frustrating, yet the final scene with Freddy and Dodd is spellbinding, as is Freddy's final scene in the film, period.

The more I think about it, the more I appreciate it. I'll likely see it again this week.

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62. "The storytelling is flat. There's no forward momentum."
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Freddie Quell has problems. He drinks. He has sexual thoughts. He gets into fights. He gets a job. Meets a girl. Drinks. Makes out with the girl. Gets into a fight. Loses his job. Then hops on a boat. Meets Dodd. Meets Dodd's fam. Makes some more liquor. And then... what? Where does the story go from there? Dodd publishes his book. They have a meeting or two. Freddie defends Dodd when someone accuses him of leading a cult. The rest was a blur to me, save the end when Freddie lets a fat British girl ride him.

There's no question I'm going to see this again, but I'm hoping this time that I can see some kind of build, some kind of storytelling momentum that I apparently missed the first time out...

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64. "I didn't feel it was flat, just less outwardly dealt with."
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It's all about guys who posture, unable to share, which makes structure a little harder to map out... but since it's essentially a character/relationship study and their lives and feelings towards one another change in pretty notable ways, I wouldn't call it flat.

PTA's definitely not playing with "likable" characters (the most likable one is probably the cult leader, lol) or easily relatable circumstances though. Even There Will Be Blood, which I rewatched tonight, you feel more for Daniel in the "I've abandoned my child" scene than you really do for the guys here for the most part. Though maybe that'll change when I take Round 2.

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63. "Good grief"
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Great score, shot beautifully and great acting but
created too many loose ends that were never tied up.....
This movie could've been great but fell on it's face.
I had to fight the urge 2 walk out a couple of times.

I had to fight the feeling after it was over to tell
the fools standing in line that it was bullshit but since
i got had they can too. You wanna see a real cult movie check
out: Sound of my voice and Martha Marcy May Marlene, that is how it should be done.


It was shot in 65mm too....wat a waste of pretty footage

  

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65. "This is NOT a movie about cults. So there's your problem."
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Thanks for the detailed analysis such as "it fell flat on its face." Useful, lol.

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66. "It wasn't about a cult? ok"
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i used broad descriptions as 2 not give away the movie as some may not have seen it.

with that said it did fall on it's face and the 2 movies i mentioned are superior with a smaller budget might i add.

  

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68. "... it's not about the cult. Seriously."
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In no way is the movie The Master about the cult. That's like describing Raging Bull as "a boxing movie."

It's about sexual frustration, it's about platonic love, it's about finding one's anchor in life and attempting to seize control of something when you're riddled with fear. It's about discovering that the meaning of life you hoped for may not be what you thought it was-- do you give up? do you live in denial? do you try desperately to learn?

PTA couldn't be less interested in the way a cult works, really. I found it hilarious that most of the cult exercises were just old acting exercises (sense memory, repetition, word association, etc).

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71. "Look i understood all of that"
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i just wanted more and wasn't satisfied and feel the need to bitch about it.

  

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69. "solid b+"
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there was a plot, by the way. don't know how anyone missed it.

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94. "agreed on both points, might even be an A- for me but I'll wait"
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>
>there was a plot, by the way. don't know how anyone missed it.
>
to give it a bit more time to think about since I didn't finally see it until last night.

FIrst impression tho I found it more engaging than There Will Be Blood even if it drags a bit towards the end (though I love the final scenes).

  

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70. "Amazingly acted and directed tragicomedy (spoilers)"
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I think a problem with the film is that you get so wrapped up in the amazing and totally committed performances to have the distance to laugh at, what is, a lot of really funny, almost Coen brothers-esq stuff. Some people think the last half is too wandering, but there are really hilarious things and situations; I think "YOU PIG FUCK!" was the moment the film turned. By then, I had made up my mind of how pathetic and idiotic Master and his flock were, how absolutely broken and doomed Freddie is. In Phoenix, Master blowing up at Laura Dern's character was hilarious. And the look Freddie gave Master when he said "laughter" was golden (followed by beating the hell out of the agent).
Then pretty much everything that Freddie said on the porch of Doris' mother, the totally pathetic and bullshit last discussion in London and him using the "technique" while fucking that girl...for me, I was chuckling for an hour after.


But thats all only set up by how powerfully Phoenix plays the first half of the movie. Between the prison scene and the first "technique" interview, I think he won the Oscar.

Tons to think about, but, really, a lot to laugh about too. Yeah, it's not about Scientology specifically, but come on...pretty great shit.

  

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73. "yeah the pig fuck line had me rollin..lol"
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72. "incredible, maybe my fave PTA effort so far"
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74. "remember where we met."
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when you're drifting in the ocean, possibilities and listlessness both exist. as Dodd spells out, we all have a master, and finding such purpose -- within yourself, and the pulls of society -- was my (initial) take away from the film.

Freddie's master is carnality, interposed with violence (he dulls both with alcoholism). Dodd's is adulation, and its empowerment -- his philosophy is nothing more than a vehicle for him to be praised.

together, they inspire one another: Freddie is Dodd's pet, his id come to life, whereas Dodd is a socially accepted version of Freddie, a man who shares his same weaknesses ("I drank the rest of your potion" / Amy Adams' bathroom scene), but masks them with a semblance of control.

while not a total undressing of Scientology, I do believe *all* divine theology is looked down upon here. it seems to be the most unfulfilling master, both as a façade for Dodd, a non-answer for Freddie, a pointlessness for Val (whose master is literally his father), and a betrayal for Laura Dern as the loyal acolyte.

one of PTA's favorite themes, regret, also shows up -- pairing with the repetitive cult exercises, which symbolize a life that hides from the truth. as for PTA's filmmaking ability, that is masterful in and of itself. the mundane becomes arresting, the score is perfect, performances brilliant, and the ocean theme is recurrent in subtle ways, from the blue wardrobes, tinted dusk and painted background walls.

the movie does stall at points, especially in the final 15 minutes (I kept waiting for any of those scenes to be the "ending"). and while I'm sure there is more context than what I could pull, I might judge the pacing differently upon another viewing.

regardless, a captivating film worth dissection.

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75. "The juxtaposition of all the early water scenes..."
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>while not a total undressing of Scientology, I do believe
>*all* divine theology is looked down upon here. it seems to be
>the most unfulfilling master, both as a façade for Dodd, a
>non-answer for Freddie, a pointlessness for Val (whose master
>is literally his father), and a betrayal for Laura Dern as the
>loyal acolyte.

... the ocean image and the meeting on the boat in particular, with the later scenes once Freddie has become indoctrinated that often take place in the desert, such as the hiding of the works and the bike riding scene.

>one of PTA's favorite themes, regret, also shows up -- pairing
>with the repetitive cult exercises, which symbolize a life
>that hides from the truth. as for PTA's filmmaking ability,
>that is masterful in and of itself. the mundane becomes
>arresting, the score is perfect, performances brilliant, and
>the ocean theme is recurrent in subtle ways, from the blue
>wardrobes, tinted dusk and painted background walls.

>the movie does stall at points, especially in the final 15
>minutes (I kept waiting for any of those scenes to be the
>"ending"). and while I'm sure there is more context than what
>I could pull, I might judge the pacing differently upon
>another viewing.
>
>regardless, a captivating film worth dissection.

Yep. Just rambled on the podcast for what seemed like an endless period of time trying to flesh out all the themes, parallel scenes/images/lines, etc. Just so well composed.

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76. "nice write-up"
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I saw this last night and I must admit it left me completely flummoxed. I was completely drawn in by the performances for about 80% of the movie but I was waiting for some sort of resolution, an overall arching message, and was left cold and empty and downright confused.

I was searching around for some explanation last night and found a commenter on A.O. Scott's review who explained the movie as a battle between the id, the ego and the super ego in human form.

I found that pretty interesting and seemingly pretty accurate if you consider:
Freddie = Id
Dodd = Ego
Peggy = Super Ego

That being said, even in that context I'm still not quite sure what those last few minutes were getting at. I really haven't studied psychology at any level, so maybe there's something obvious that I'm missing. Either way I look forward to revisiting this movie after reading up on it a bit.

  

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78. "RE: remember where we met."
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>and the ocean theme is recurrent in subtle ways, from the blue
>wardrobes, tinted dusk and painted background walls.

You're absolutely right about the colors. I also liked that while Freddie is mostly shown in blue, and Dodd mostly in red, occasionally the wardrobe is flipped, which I assume was meant to suggest that each shares some of the other's qualities. (And there's at least one point where Freddie's shirt is checkered red and blue, which I took as a show of his inner conflict).

My favorite visual of the movie (the the boat sailing under the bridge at dusk) advanced the red vs. blue motif - the sunset lit up the bottom of the sky a fiery red color, yet the top of the sky was a deep blue, and the silhouette of the bridge (itself probably symbol) divided the two colors perfectly.

Not only do I want to watch this again to see what else I pick up on, I just want to watch it again for pure entertainment value. Performances are great, score is immense, cinematography is absurdly good, etc. etc.

Also, I saw this projected in 70MM from a perfectly calibrated and properly lit projector, and it was the best picture quality I've ever seen in a movie theater, bar none. Really stunning how great it looked.

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77. "a marvelously well-crafted film"
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I need to revisit to decide how I feel in total.

PT has made one film that I initially was wowed by and soured on very quickly (Magnolia) and another that I initially disliked and grew to admire (Punch-Drunk).

At the very least, I love that he's swinging for the fences, thematically, dramatically, and aesthetically. American film needs more high-level risk taking.

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80. "Loved the film."
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A bit what I found interesting, which is maybe obvious:

Freddie's photography and his "potion" and how he's a perfectionist when it comes to those two jobs but ultimately isn't perfect when it comes to his life. While Lancaster is somewhat perfect in every way in his life, but what he's basically 'selling' to people is a deception, which isn't perfect at all.

  

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81. "Can anyone explain the shot at the beginning of the film?"
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Where JP is cutting the coconut and it's this crazy almost anamorphic lens with lesser quality look. Maybe there is no point to the shot, but it just stuck out a lot for me and I'd assume nothing in PTA's films are there for no reason. Especially since it was the only shot like that in the film.

  

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82. "I thought he was thinking of cutting his hand"
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maybe just to feel something or perhaps get out of the navy, but then opted not to. Didn't really notice the shot, but it may be because I was wincing, waiting for the machete to come down on his hand.

  

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85. "I think he's talking about the actual look of the shot itself..."
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Not just what happens in the scene. It's almost a fish-eye type of shot if I remember it correctly, which obviously distorts the image and makes everything look extremely curved and unnatural. I'm pretty sure it's the only shot in the movie that looked that way.

Perhaps the point was to evoke Freddie's disoriented mental state and warped perception?

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87. "probably the widest angle in the film"
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If there's another that wide, I don't recall it.

It's an interesting shot. PT operates pretty intuitively so I doubt there was a formal logic behind it.

In addition to being distorting, it also increases the perceived distance between Freddie and his fellow sailors. Notice how we almost always see him as detached from the rest of the men. This shot is part of that pattern.

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88. "^^^ this"
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>In addition to being distorting, it also increases the
>perceived distance between Freddie and his fellow sailors.
>Notice how we almost always see him as detached from the rest
>of the men. This shot is part of that pattern.

All of those opening moments were as lonely as could be.

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97. "Thanks for your input"
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That could be the case but it just seems really weird even in that explanation. I think of stuff like Magnolia where he used the bible use reference throughout or in Punch Drunk Love where he used certain colour lights/lens flare to explain mood. It could be the case that he used it for that, it just doesn't give me that immediate reaction and really stands out.

  

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83. "deleted scenes/alternate takes"
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a pretty extensive list of stuff seen in the trailers & teasers that didn't make it into the final cut. there must be some amazing shit left on the cutting room floor

http://cigsandredvines.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-master-deleted-scenes.html

  

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86. "that is insane"
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there is soooo much there.

In any case, this will be a DVD/Blu-Ray purchase well worth the money.

Watch, PTA will fuck with us and the DVD release will be an entirely new movie.

  

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84. "Really liked it. If anything there was too much plot."
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The way people were talking, I was getting my hopes up for another Tree of Life.

  

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89. "GOAT love story. "
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-30-
You know it's drama, but it sound real good.

  

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90. "I'm facepalming at niggas calling this plotless."
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It's pretty damn Aristotelian.

Act 1:
Freddie comes out of The War damaged, fails to adjust. Loses a job. Poisons a guy. Runs away.

Act 2:
Freddie stows away. The Master has found a muse and Freddie has found somebody who gives a fuck.

Mid point:
The Master's bullshit catches up with him, cops come, Freddie goes nuts.

Act 2 cont.:
The Master commits to fixing Freddie.

End of act 2.:
2nd book sucks. Freddie loses faith. Runs away.

Act 3:
Freddie goes back for Doris. Failing that, goes back to The Master. Master asks Freddie for commitment. Freddie decides to break up.

fin.

It's a love story, niggas.

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92. "Yep. Dodd's story has a clear arc too."
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91. "*smh*"
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WORLD STAR IN THIS BITCH!!!! WORLD STAR IN THIS BITCH!!!!

  

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95. "The Mehster "
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Well acted but overall pretty tedious

  

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96. "How's the coffee industry? "
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I'm asking because I don't want to put people
out of work and shit

If the coffee industry is fine, then I'll feel comfortable
calling this an enormous pile of dogshit, because that's
what it was

If not, I'll just keep it to myself



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98. "Those were some good boobs in this film."
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i'm out.
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99. "finally got around to this"
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it was good. looked fantastic. that opening 10-15min sequence that shows Freddy's aloofness/strangeness and sexual disposition was fantastic.

Joaquin and PSH held shit the fuck down. that side by side jail cell scene was gold, as was the bathroom rub down scene.

some of the criticisms people have spoke of in here are valid though. it is a bit disjointed thematically and emotionally, and the pacing seemed off

overall B-

  

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101. "Thinking back, the jail cell scene was incredible"
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I looked at the movie as a whole, but that specifically was a great scene.

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100. "One powerhouse scene after another"
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The acting in this is more impressive than the acting in Lincoln.

True, it doesn't connect emotionally, but neither did There Will Be Blood. Clearly, PTA aint about that.

Some good dark humor too. A- for me on first viewing.

  

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102. "uhh i connected emotionally to TWBB"
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103. "How? Which characters did you care about on that level?"
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TWBB is ice cold.

  

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104. "I guess you could feel bad for Plainview's son..."
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but other than that, I pretty much agree.

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105. "You could feel bad for Plainview ABANDONING HIS CHIIIIIIIIILD!!!"
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107. "i have a very visceral/"emotional" reaction"
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to the depiction of Daniel's desire towards Manifest Destiny through gold, than oil

also the primate in me feels some thing serious for the way he man handles Eli's Biblical pimping bullshit.

than you know, there is the boy

emotional archs aren't only tied to love/falling out of love narratives, or dealings of tragedy and death

  

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106. "same here"
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unfortunately, i identify all too well with daniel plainview.

i have to be in a certain emotional space to rewatch TWBB.

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