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Frank Longo
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"So which of you morons is still trying to claim Avatar wasn't dope?"


  

          

Cuz I'm watching it for the first time since theaters, and it's fun and exciting and visually ridiculous. The script works, the acting is good, and the characters, while conventional, all fit perfectly into the story.


So remind me again, in a way that isn't nitpicky or overwhelmingly nerdy, why this movie "sucked"? Was it just because it was popular and so many people liked it?

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The script works as what though?
Dec 27th 2010
1
But the theme park ride feel wouldn't work without narrative success.
Dec 27th 2010
6
      what?
Dec 27th 2010
11
stick to Nick Cage and musicals
Dec 27th 2010
2
sure is nice to look at, but I still laugh over the dragon rape
Dec 27th 2010
3
I don't understand the "dragon rape" references.
Dec 27th 2010
7
      yeah, the tentacles -- it was mad phallic + the dragon didn't want it
Dec 27th 2010
8
Meh. Dances with Aliens.
Dec 27th 2010
4
native people are closer to nature, bignick. it's a fact.
Dec 27th 2010
5
I still don't understand this criticism.
Dec 27th 2010
9
      it's because it's THAT bad, Frank.
Dec 27th 2010
15
it's the worst movie ever and you're an idiot and a liar if you say diff...
Dec 27th 2010
10
I thought Furry Vengeance was worse, personally.
Dec 27th 2010
12
you can't dispute any of what I said, because it's true.
Dec 27th 2010
16
This is a bit of a stretch, Transformers 1 and 2 were terrible
Dec 27th 2010
27
I haven't seen transformers 2
Dec 27th 2010
32
oddly, Transformers 1 is exactly the movie frank is actually describing
Dec 27th 2010
33
      as much as I hate both Transformer movies
Dec 28th 2010
65
All movie I was thinking damn white dude is fucked up, lol
Dec 27th 2010
46
      he fucks over EVERYBODY and ends up the big winner at the end
Dec 28th 2010
47
it's a white savior movie.
Dec 27th 2010
13
saw it again, it is the savior-iest flick ever
Jan 04th 2011
109
RE: So which of you morons is still trying to claim Avatar wasn't dope?
Dec 27th 2010
14
I thought you were better than this Frank
Dec 27th 2010
17
I mean, I obviously don't know it.
Dec 27th 2010
18
      I think I would love a long chat about this
Dec 27th 2010
19
      cch pounder sucked and there was nothing good about saldanas
Dec 27th 2010
20
I liked seeing it in 3D, but I don't know if I'll ever sit through it ag...
Dec 27th 2010
21
It's cheesier than a box of Kraft Mac & Cheese
Dec 27th 2010
22
he's a good director tho, you can't argue with that
Dec 27th 2010
23
      Sure he can direct and he's hired a great team of effects guys
Dec 27th 2010
31
Any movie/show that kills off Michelle Rodriguez is terrible.
Dec 27th 2010
24
^^^good rule of thumb
Dec 27th 2010
^^^good rule of thumb
Dec 27th 2010
25
      ^^^worth saying twice
Dec 27th 2010
26
i would've loved it when i was an adolescent.
Dec 27th 2010
28
This needs to be on a podcast wit RJCC as guest
Dec 27th 2010
29
i dug it in the theater, but it's down right unwatchable on hbo
Dec 27th 2010
30
i fell asleep on it at the theater (in 3D).
Dec 27th 2010
34
*does the wop*
Dec 27th 2010
35
your avatar is how i react when i see this movie playing on a screen.
Dec 27th 2010
36
Wheres Basaglia ?
Dec 27th 2010
37
it's like with obama birthers
Dec 27th 2010
41
      Yup! I even gave a nice reason why I thought it wasn't that great
Dec 27th 2010
42
they lost me with the "You're not in Kansas anymore" line.
Dec 27th 2010
38
...
Dec 27th 2010
39
We can't all be perfect, I suppose.
Dec 27th 2010
40
come on, Longo. Unobtanium.
Dec 27th 2010
43
Don't hate it and I think the action sequence editing is world-class
Dec 27th 2010
44
Its just a smidget bit predictable with a dash of cliche
Dec 27th 2010
45
Honestly -- I willed it to be good, and it sort of was.
Dec 28th 2010
48
^^ how I felt before I decided to re-watch it in 3D ^^
Dec 28th 2010
53
      Oh, I'll never, ever, see it again. Ever. Ever.
Dec 29th 2010
74
That movie is on Titanic status for me
Dec 28th 2010
49
apparently, there's some titties in that movie
Dec 28th 2010
50
      ^^^Focused
Dec 28th 2010
55
      here you go
Dec 28th 2010
64
           niiice
Dec 28th 2010
68
           RE: here you go
Jan 02nd 2011
86
I thought it was great at the time
Dec 28th 2010
51
i might've enjoyed it more if it was cut down by 30-45 mins....
Dec 28th 2010
52
you lost this one, dude
Dec 28th 2010
54
what a shame it didn't win Best Picture
Dec 28th 2010
56
watching it again at home, confirmed to me that it was wack
Dec 28th 2010
57
Zoe irritated me in that movie
Dec 28th 2010
58
      i agree, she was still my favorite character which says a lot about how
Dec 28th 2010
59
           and this is *WHY* zoe is an outstanding actress
Dec 29th 2010
72
I dont get the hate either. It wasnt amazing but it sure as hell aint
Dec 28th 2010
60
you're wrong.
Dec 28th 2010
61
It looked great
Dec 28th 2010
62
i have beef with people saying it looked great
Dec 28th 2010
63
      I just meant that it looked really cool
Dec 30th 2010
82
DOGPILE!!!!
Dec 28th 2010
66
it's not even good the first time.
Dec 28th 2010
67
too long and cliched, but not a bad movie
Dec 28th 2010
69
too long and cliched and a bad movie.
Dec 28th 2010
70
You nerds suck.
Dec 29th 2010
71
you suck, it wasn't.
Dec 29th 2010
73
Yeah right, you suck!
Dec 29th 2010
76
Wait, the person saying "Avatar is awesome" is calling us nerds?
Dec 30th 2010
78
      Don't even act like it's a nerd movie.
Dec 30th 2010
80
           I don't think its you calling the movie awesome
Dec 30th 2010
81
                RE: I don't think its you calling the movie awesome
Dec 30th 2010
83
                     The only people I know who like it pretty much like anything.
Jan 02nd 2011
88
                          Same here ... ^^^
Jan 03rd 2011
103
                               I criticize loads of things and hate loads of things.
Jan 04th 2011
106
                                    but you don't like avatar. you like an imaginary movie that never existe...
Jan 04th 2011
107
                                         Okay, lol.
Jan 04th 2011
110
Didn't love it in theater, but didn't hate. it. Would NEVER watch again
Dec 29th 2010
75
Thought I'd love it after the IMAX preview but it was only so-so.
Dec 30th 2010
77
it didn't hold up well under a second viewing
Dec 30th 2010
79
^^^ I can dig this type of criticism.
Jan 02nd 2011
92
anybody comparing avatar to phantom menace is an idiot
Jan 03rd 2011
97
you're a fucking liar. you say the story and the characters hold up
Jan 03rd 2011
98
      oh, so you're still doing this?
Jan 03rd 2011
101
           the things you said weren't true. it sucked the first time.
Jan 03rd 2011
104
you dig anything that's not criticism and cops endless pleas
Jan 03rd 2011
99
^^exactly^^
Jan 05th 2011
114
RE: So which of you morons is still trying to claim Avatar wasn't dope?
Jan 01st 2011
84
LOL
Jan 06th 2011
116
it's a horrible movie with a terrible script and unconvincing effects
Jan 01st 2011
85
^^^ what they said
Jan 02nd 2011
87
i think some of yall need to smoke more weed
Jan 02nd 2011
89
weed can make any movie good, this is not an argument.
Jan 02nd 2011
91
I have the opposite effect.
Jan 02nd 2011
93
The fact that you had to mention getting high to watch it
Jan 03rd 2011
96
Liking a movie that other people didn't will never be an L.
Jan 03rd 2011
100
      It's not all 'opionion'
Jan 03rd 2011
102
      there's facts about the movie that you lie about
Jan 03rd 2011
105
^^ sees it ^^
Jan 04th 2011
111
and lol @ all the people hating on the special effects...
Jan 02nd 2011
90
Did you see Princess Mononoke?
Jan 02nd 2011
94
i LOVE Princess Mononoke
Jan 02nd 2011
95
I hated both of these movies
Jan 04th 2011
108
Miyazaki >>>>>> Disney, Everyday.
Jan 04th 2011
112
      But they're still sleepin...
Jan 06th 2011
115
           Miyazaki don't make bad films.
Jan 06th 2011
118
RE: Still an overrated bullshit film
Jan 05th 2011
113
shits a tad better on HBO
Jan 06th 2011
117

ricky_BUTLER
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1. "The script works as what though?"
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Mon Dec-27-10 12:30 PM by ricky_BUTLER

          

As a platform for James Cameron to go demonstrate his special effects genius? Sure, it works.

That's not a slight in anyway of the technical achievements of the film, which are wonderful, but Avatar is essentially a theme park ride. That's the level the characters, dialogue, and story reach. It's something you sit back and stare at for a couple hours. The less you think about the narrative elements, the less you recall the dialogue, and the less the characters are closely examined, the better.

It's an excuse for excitement.

  

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Frank Longo
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6. "But the theme park ride feel wouldn't work without narrative success."
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>As a platform for James Cameron to go demonstrate his special
>effects genius? Sure, it works.
>
>That's not a slight in anyway of the technical achievements of
>the film, which are wonderful, but Avatar is essentially a
>theme park ride. That's the level the characters, dialogue,
>and story reach.

Tons of films are filled to the brim with special effects. The reason why the effects are extra special in Avatar is because they actually become engaging. The characters don't have to be deep and the dialogue doesn't have to be Mamet or the Coens for the narrative to work on the whole to become strong escapist fare.

The difference between Avatar and something like Transformers 2, Tron Legacy, or other effects-driven works are that Avatar manages to make you forget you're staring at something computers did.

It's something you sit back and stare at for
>a couple hours. The less you think about the narrative
>elements, the less you recall the dialogue, and the less the
>characters are closely examined, the better.
>
>It's an excuse for excitement.

And what's wrong with that? I can't count on my hands the number of films in the last decade that managed to achieve actual excitement in a big-budget, effects-driven film. It's so much harder than people give it credit for, and Cameron's genius with effects aren't just technical achievements, but the way in which he uses them within the story.

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11. "what?"
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2. "stick to Nick Cage and musicals"
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Mon Dec-27-10 12:58 PM by cheap skeiht killa

          

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3. "sure is nice to look at, but I still laugh over the dragon rape"
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saw it once at the $3 theater with pizza + beer and thought it was great.

saw it again in 3D, and actually liked it much, much less. it was fun when we were the noisiest people in the theater cracking "handi-capable" + dragon rape jokes, but it was lame in the typical movie theater setting.

so I mean I won't bag on it, but it's best when you just look at it then make fun. taking it seriously is bad for your health.

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7. "I don't understand the "dragon rape" references."
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You mean the scene in which he tackles the dragon and flies for the first time? I thought that was exciting-- I wasn't giggling at all. *shrug*

Maybe the enjoyability of the atmosphere of the first time you saw the film then influenced the pleasure you were looking to attain the second time you saw it.

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8. "yeah, the tentacles -- it was mad phallic + the dragon didn't want it"
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and dude made that bitch subservient afterwards.

and the point is that it isn't just cheesy in parts, it's downright laughable. "unobtanium"? cmon, only defense of that is at least it's funny. whoever the villain dude was? he was a cartoon. oh and good lord the "I *see* you" BS. my g/f + I still tease each with that line for its pure ridiculousness (get it? they like *see* each other, but also they like *see* each other cuz they're in love! oh and it's how the natives say I love you! so deep!). and the fact that the dude was an untrained soldier getting strapped into this thing cuz his brother died, that's a lot for me to just forget about in the first 15 minutes of setup, but then add in that HE CAN'T WALK??!! give me a break.

so yeah, when you MAKE FUN OF IT, it's entertaining in a MST3K kind of way, but in no world is it an acceptable or entertaining plot line for 150m.

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4. "Meh. Dances with Aliens. "
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Visually stunning, but incredibly mediocre in every other way.

>So remind me again, in a way that isn't nitpicky or
>overwhelmingly nerdy, why this movie "sucked"? Was it just
>because it was popular and so many people liked it?

No. It was because the writing was pretty wooden and hacky. The Navi were just blue versions of the cliched Hollywood Native American,and unobtanium is the dumbest thing that's ever been put into a movie.

  

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5. "native people are closer to nature, bignick. it's a fact."
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9. "I still don't understand this criticism."
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>unobtanium is the dumbest thing that's
>ever been put into a movie.

It's the name mentioned once, maybe twice, in the entire film. Is it a dumb name? Sure. Is it any dumber than "Francium", "Americium", "Californium", and all the elements named after places? Probably, yeah.

But when I'm watching the final hour of the film and getting my mind boggled by the action, I'm not sitting there thinking, "Unobtanium? What a stupid name!" Yet it's usually the first thing people reference to me when talking about why Avatar sucked, and since it's a word referenced twice in the whole movie, I always find that curious.

Wooden script I can at least understand, cuz there are definitely some bad "action dialogue" lines, like "That's what I'm talkin' about!" and things such as this. But I still don't think any of those lines undercut the overall enjoyability of the film. Just because a story is cliched doesn't mean it can't be told well.

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15. "it's because it's THAT bad, Frank."
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kinda like how Howard Dean's entire presidential campaign was undone by about 1.5 seconds of footage, the "unobtanium" thing is so patently ridiculous and insulting to the intelligence of the average movie goer, that anybody with any sense latches on to it no matter how rarely it was mentioned.

really, it's one part that OBVIOUSLY the natives are sitting on a valuable natural resource, the other part AND you named it "unobtanium"? gimme a break.

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10. "it's the worst movie ever and you're an idiot and a liar if you say diff..."
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the hero is an unlikeable person who brings ruin to every single person or group he touches and is rewarded for it in the end, the story doesn't make sense and none of the background characters have any depth.

these things are indisputable facts.

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12. "I thought Furry Vengeance was worse, personally."
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16. "you can't dispute any of what I said, because it's true."
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you can only choose to ignore everything that happens in the movie, which is the exact opposite of avatar being good.

you have to pretend like it's something else. this is called plea copping.


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27. "This is a bit of a stretch, Transformers 1 and 2 were terrible"
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and the main character was completely unlikable, especially in the 2nd movie.

  

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32. "I haven't seen transformers 2"
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sam was not a bad person in the first one though.

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33. "oddly, Transformers 1 is exactly the movie frank is actually describing"
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65. "as much as I hate both Transformer movies"
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and I do think they are both AWFUL. I found it easier to believe that it was possible for giant robots that transformed into cars and planes could coexist with humans than those stupid blue creatures.

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46. "All movie I was thinking damn white dude is fucked up, lol "
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>the hero is an unlikeable person who brings ruin to every
>single person or group he touches and is rewarded for it in
>the end, the story doesn't make sense and none of the
>background characters have any depth.
>
>these things are indisputable facts.


Horrible movie. At LEAST as bad as the phantom menace

  

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47. "he fucks over EVERYBODY and ends up the big winner at the end"
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what the fuck kinda morality tale is that?

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13. "it's a white savior movie."
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I liked it OK in the theaters, but have no real interest seeing it again.

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109. "saw it again, it is the savior-iest flick ever"
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i can suspend reality, but don't ask me to go insane to enjoy your flick.

-dude brought down the twin towers, took the megaphone from Bush at Ground Zero to apologize for it, then jacked Air Force One and cats were like 'yeah, follow him'?! plus he was futtbucking the Navi version of Taylor Swift?!

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14. "RE: So which of you morons is still trying to claim Avatar wasn't dope?"
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>Cuz I'm watching it for the first time since theaters, and
>it's fun and exciting and visually ridiculous. The script
>works, the acting is good, and the characters, while
>conventional, all fit perfectly into the story.
>
>
>So remind me again, in a way that isn't nitpicky or
>overwhelmingly nerdy, why this movie "sucked"? Was it just
>because it was popular and so many people liked it?
>
Honestly, It was the 3-D at first. I saw it twice in theaters and once at the Arclight cinema dome, which had glasses provided by Cameron. It was a bit distracting almost overwhelming. The second time in a regular Imax 3-D theater, it wasn't as overwhelming but it still kinda ruined the movie for me. (maybe I just have terrible vision)

The second gripe is: the film is a bit too long. I mean it would have been better as an action flick than this long story, It was like Alien meets Titanic.It really just felt so generic and I agree with you it worked for what it was. However, it would have been better as a straight up action film. I guess I was expecting Cameron herald his return as an action god. Don't get me wrong though because I am a huge lover of the Abyss which I compare Avatar to. But the difference is with The Abyss is that it didn't have these action sequences sprinkled through out but at the End it got exciting, for me that worked.

I don't know maybe I'm wrong for the fact that I was expecting and action flick and not The Last Alien Samurai.


*I'd like to note that I did not reference Ferngully: The Last Rain Forest or Dances with Wolves. (those are cop out reasons)

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17. "I thought you were better than this Frank"
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that movie is a huge piece of shit and you know it. It looks like a fucking cartoon. I never believed for one minute that the creatures in that world could coexist with humans. Shit was stupid. The voice acting was mediocre at best. Oh yeah the story was fucking garbage.

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18. "I mean, I obviously don't know it."
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>that movie is a huge piece of shit and you know it.

Otherwise I wouldn't have posted this.

It looks
>like a fucking cartoon.

Not to me. It looked great to me. One of the best effects in a movie I've ever seen.

I never believed for one minute that
>the creatures in that world could coexist with humans. Shit
>was stupid.

Well, you're kind of supposed to see the conflict coming from miles away. It builds tension. It's why they detail the conflict between the war-hungry marines and the peace-hungry scientists before you even see a Navi.

>The voice acting was mediocre at best.

Saldana mediocre? She almost got an Oscar nod for a role in which she was never on screen. Weaver mediocre? CCH Pounder? I disagree strongly with this.

Oh yeah the
>story was fucking garbage.

Again, I disagree.

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19. "I think I would love a long chat about this"
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I definitely would love to hear the other guys take on this shitty piece of shit.

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20. "cch pounder sucked and there was nothing good about saldanas"
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performance other than being pretty.

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21. "I liked seeing it in 3D, but I don't know if I'll ever sit through it ag..."
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I really enjoyed it in theaters, was just a ton of fun. I tried rewatching it on HBO a few months back and it just couldn't hold my attention. I don't know, it just doesn't seem to have much replay value for me. IMO the story is kinda weak (though not as awful as some people are arguing) and even if it is well told, I can't really bother to care anymore.

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22. "It's cheesier than a box of Kraft Mac & Cheese"
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James Cameron can not write. I think that's where it basically breaks down. (that and Rodriguez is a shitty actress and they over-animated all the blue fuckers faces so they were overacting in every single scene)

  

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23. "he's a good director tho, you can't argue with that"
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he got good performances out of the actors.

the problem is everything that happened or was said in the movie was complete shit.


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31. "Sure he can direct and he's hired a great team of effects guys"
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I mean, its a totally new way of thinking about direction, more like a video game or a cartoon, but yeah, he's good at that. I want to see him direct and produce something he is not allowed to even have a rewrite on, it could be great.

It's likely the flaw of approaching it as a "film" vs a "movie". I guess it's a good movie, but the moment you start paying attention to what's being said what the story is really supposed to be you may as well be taking a shit.

  

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24. "Any movie/show that kills off Michelle Rodriguez is terrible."
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28. "i would've loved it when i was an adolescent."
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actually, no, even then i would've thought it too dumb for my taste.

fuck you.

  

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29. "This needs to be on a podcast wit RJCC as guest"
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30. "i dug it in the theater, but it's down right unwatchable on hbo"
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it even looks like shit. i couldn't get through an hour.

it's so bad, i'm kind of mad at myself for liking it before, but it was before every shitty movie was in 3D. it was a cool experience at the time. i wish i didn't try to watch it again

  

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34. "i fell asleep on it at the theater (in 3D)."
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i've seen parts of it on HBO that i didn't know were in the movie at all. lol

fuck you.

  

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35. "*does the wop* "
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36. "your avatar is how i react when i see this movie playing on a screen."
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37. "Wheres Basaglia ?"
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Cause we got RJCC handing out the L's and all we need is Basaglia to do the clean up work.

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41. "it's like with obama birthers"
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you have these deluded people who will just wait for everyone to stop paying attention before they start their whisper campaign about how avatar really wasn't complete shit and hope you forgot all the facts.


you have to quash it each and every time to remind them you're still here.

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42. "Yup! I even gave a nice reason why I thought it wasn't that great"
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But to no avail. I couldn't even just sit, watch it for what it was an enjoy it. Inception was more enjoyable as a veg out flick.

Camreon's got skill but he missed me with this one.

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38. "they lost me with the "You're not in Kansas anymore" line."
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39. "..."
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Out of respect, I abstain.

This post saddens me, Frank Longo.

  

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40. "We can't all be perfect, I suppose."
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:-\

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43. "come on, Longo. Unobtanium."
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44. "Don't hate it and I think the action sequence editing is world-class"
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but I don't see it as dope. Dopeness image-wise, I go with Blade Runner, Sunshine, and stuff on the other end like, say, Shotgun Stories and Vertical Ray of the Sun. Why does George Lucas and Cameron equate writing for a wide audience with dumb ass cliched dialogue? Pixar and Ghibli write for children, teens, and adults and their dialogue isn't wack as shit. Some parts of Avatar are unavoidably (i.e., viscerally) stimulating and entertaining, though.

  

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45. "Its just a smidget bit predictable with a dash of cliche"
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like SoWhat said, i may have liked it as an adolescent

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48. "Honestly -- I willed it to be good, and it sort of was. "
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I literally willed it.



Of course that means I overlooked the bad
scenes and won't openly admit that I don't
ever really want to see it again, but it
worked, because when I hear 'Avatar' I have
mostly positive thoughts



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53. "^^ how I felt before I decided to re-watch it in 3D ^^"
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shoulda just stuck with that victory at the $3 pizza + beer theater, but that was so fun I decided I needed the full 3D, but then didn't enjoy it as much and felt ripped off.

hold on to them positive thoughts as long as you can, O_E.

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74. "Oh, I'll never, ever, see it again. Ever. Ever. "
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>hold on to them positive thoughts as long as you can, O_E.


So I'm good.


Oh, and come to think of it: I saw it with girl
I sorta had a thing for (at the time, at least),
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49. "That movie is on Titanic status for me "
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never seen it, have no desire to, and will avoid it whenever given the chance.

Oh look! Jim Cameron directed that one, too!

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50. "apparently, there's some titties in that movie"
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so it's on my watch list

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55. "^^^Focused "
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Kate Winslet always looks good naked tho.

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64. "here you go"
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now save yourself from 3 hours of shit
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68. "niiice"
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86. "RE: here you go"
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>now save yourself from 3 hours of shit
>http://www.metacafe.com/watch/312595/kate_winslet_titanic/

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51. "I thought it was great at the time"
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but I don't want to see it again. When I've caught it on TV/at a friend's place I can't get over how bad the writing is.

  

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52. "i might've enjoyed it more if it was cut down by 30-45 mins...."
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way too long for a boring, predictable story. i remember being into it because of the visuals then after a while wondering how they were going to wrap it up and being ready for it to be over.

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54. "you lost this one, dude"
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stop trying to be other posters, too.

  

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56. "what a shame it didn't win Best Picture"
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57. "watching it again at home, confirmed to me that it was wack"
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The theater experience was cool but now watching it at home - weak! Zoe Saldana was the best thing about the movie.

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58. "Zoe irritated me in that movie"
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mostly the way she cried, and she cried a lot. The sound she made was a cross between getting shot and being spanked by your parents. Awful.

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59. "i agree, she was still my favorite character which says a lot about how"
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weak the characters in the film were.
I liked her because after awhile I forgot I was looking at a giant blue CGI creature.

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72. "and this is *WHY* zoe is an outstanding actress"
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because I completely forgot about the weak characterization and focused on her. saldana, along with Sigourney Weaver, CCH Pounder and Wes Studi as Zoe's parents were the best things about the movie.

sidenote: um, zoe was totally deserving of some damn awards and nominations...

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60. "I dont get the hate either. It wasnt amazing but it sure as hell aint"
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on "The Room" level of wackness.

Just seemed like a "safe" movie with crazy effects. Far from horrible.

  

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61. "you're wrong."
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62. "It looked great"
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I mean, really great. But it was hella average in just about every other aspect.

  

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63. "i have beef with people saying it looked great"
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but I am sorry those giant fucking blue things did not look great. They looked dead in the face, and they did not look real enough to coexist in the real world, like they did. If every time the humans the humans crossed over into the where the navi lived they crossed these giant gates letting them know they were now entering toontown. Then okay, I believe it.

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82. "I just meant that it looked really cool"
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With the 3D and all that shit.

  

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66. "DOGPILE!!!!"
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Avatar is a good way to spend nearly three hours.

After that, the flaws in the writing begin to show thru, the plot doesn't hold up, and even the awe at the special effects fade because we're just too accustomed to seeing visual spectacle in movies.

It's like Titanic in that it's good, but lacks any real replay value.

And I know you said not to play movie critic, but that's the main critique with his last two movies over the other movies of his career.

I know you loathe the ending of Terminator 2, but I could watch any of his first 4 movies over and over again. Even with the special effects that don't quite hold up to modern eyes, the plot, dialogue, and mystique around them are top notch. It's like after Terminator 2 Cameron decided he wanted to own the world and that just being a great filmmaker wasn't good enough. The whole thing just feels like a watered down version of his other work.

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67. "it's not even good the first time."
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69. "too long and cliched, but not a bad movie "
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I also liked the concept of the "avatars". And I also think Unobtanium was done in jest, something the corporate guy came up with.


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70. "too long and cliched and a bad movie."
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71. "You nerds suck."
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It was awesome.

  

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73. "you suck, it wasn't."
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76. "Yeah right, you suck!"
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78. "Wait, the person saying "Avatar is awesome" is calling us nerds? "
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80. "Don't even act like it's a nerd movie."
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The majority of the world saw and liked the movie.

  

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81. "I don't think its you calling the movie awesome "
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the reason for the nerd comparison, but the fact you think the movie is awesome and you're calling us nerds makes you a nerd.

I only say that cause most of agree is was asstastic.

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83. "RE: I don't think its you calling the movie awesome "
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>the reason for the nerd comparison, but the fact you think
>the movie is awesome and you're calling us nerds makes you a
>nerd.
>
>I only say that cause most of agree is was asstastic.


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88. "The only people I know who like it pretty much like anything. "
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103. "Same here ... ^^^"
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... I haven't seen it and refuse to unless it's forced upon me when I'm in a hungover stupor on a couch one day or something, but yeah, the people I know who thought it was awesome are the same people who never criticize anything they see.

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106. "I criticize loads of things and hate loads of things."
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I just happen to like this flick in particular. Since I think it's good.

*shrug*

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107. "but you don't like avatar. you like an imaginary movie that never existe..."
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110. "Okay, lol."
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75. "Didn't love it in theater, but didn't hate. it. Would NEVER watch again"
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77. "Thought I'd love it after the IMAX preview but it was only so-so."
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Now that it's on HBO it's a total no-no.

  

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79. "it didn't hold up well under a second viewing"
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i know i was in here lobbying for best picture last year, so i'm man enough to come in and collect my L. i saw it a second time in 3D, and while the movie still soars early and often, it also has some pretty clear and glaring flaws-- dialogue and certain characters, to be exact. it's still the most important movie of 2009 (and killa cam still deserved best director), probably not the best though. i'll pass that trophy on down to my first runner-up, inglourious basterds, though now i'm afraid to watch that one again. oh, hurt locker still doodoo doe.

EDIT: i shouldn't say it didn't hold up well. it did. it's a fantastic movie, there's no question about it. but the replay value is low. the utter euphoria of the first viewing is lost on the second, and certainly wouldn't translate on a TV.

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92. "^^^ I can dig this type of criticism."
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>i know i was in here lobbying for best picture last year, so
>i'm man enough to come in and collect my L. i saw it a second
>time in 3D, and while the movie still soars early and often,
>it also has some pretty clear and glaring flaws-- dialogue and
>certain characters, to be exact. it's still the most
>important movie of 2009 (and killa cam still deserved best
>director), probably not the best though. i'll pass that
>trophy on down to my first runner-up, inglourious basterds,
>though now i'm afraid to watch that one again. oh, hurt
>locker still doodoo doe.
>
>EDIT: i shouldn't say it didn't hold up well. it did. it's a
>fantastic movie, there's no question about it. but the replay
>value is low. the utter euphoria of the first viewing is lost
>on the second, and certainly wouldn't translate on a TV.

Folks in here talking about Phantom Menace status literally confound me. There is nothing in Phantom Menace even CLOSE to the final 45 minutes of Avatar.

I do understand losing that joy of the first experience with the visuals and the world of Pandora.

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97. "anybody comparing avatar to phantom menace is an idiot"
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while avatar has its flaws, none of them are in the story itself. the dialogue was flawed, a few periphery characters were oversimplified or overdone, but the main characters and the main story works. you can argue it's a story we've seen before, fine, but it worked before and it works in avatar. and the visuals aren't just pretty pictures, the environment and nearly everything in it was integrated quite nicely into the story.

the phantom menace on the other hand failed on every level, from story to dialogue to characters to an environment that mostly served no purpose other than to sell toys. avatar deserved its best picture nom and would have deserved it in the traditional five-film format while the phantom menace is an indefensible film that no one outside of skywalker ranch even attempts to defend. comparing the two is laughable.

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98. "you're a fucking liar. you say the story and the characters hold up"
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there are no examples you can give of this, because they don't exist.

there is no depth to any of the characters.

in a fucking three hour movie.



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101. "oh, so you're still doing this?"
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what are you so mad about? you won. you got a whole platinum post here of people admitting that avatar's replay value is weak. longo's right though, it's still a dope flick and killa cam still changed the game. you're probably wearing some 3D glasses right now. but if you're gonna keep crying until i pull out my avatar dvd and piss on it, let me save you some tears: i don't own one. you won.

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104. "the things you said weren't true. it sucked the first time. "
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Avatar: Not Even Once

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99. "you dig anything that's not criticism and cops endless pleas"
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as long as they'll apologize for it being a stinking pile of shit no one wants to watch or think about, you're down with it.


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84. "RE: So which of you morons is still trying to claim Avatar wasn't dope?"
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Nigga it was just a rip-off of Ferngully The Last Rainforest dawg. Plus that shit was weird as hell my nigga. Why them blue cats using they ponytails to fuck giant flying birds and shit nigga? What part of the game is that?? Shit's fucked up.

  

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116. "LOL"
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and about time someone in PTP understood it was ferngully for adults

  

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85. "it's a horrible movie with a terrible script and unconvincing effects"
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the Na'vi look ridiculous...the scene where he first breaks out of the hospital room and runs across the basketball court...my god, that shit looks horrendous. it's a common comparison, but it really does look like a video game.

the dialogue is George Lucas-level awful. the opening scenes with the awkward expository stuff is especially shitty. Sam Worthington and Zoe Saldana do an admirable job with what they're given, but everyone else is fucking horrible.

i randomly watched Aliens the other day and i was shocked at how much stuff in Avatar was borrowed directly from that movie - the mechs, the badass latina soldier, the ass-kicking general, the greedy corporate executive...it struck me as super lazy/unimaginative. Avatar really just seems like a tech demo...an excuse to try out new toys - the 3D stuff, the virtual camera rig, the new character animation, etc.

if you honestly like this movie, you objectively have terrible taste.

  

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87. "^^^ what they said"
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89. "i think some of yall need to smoke more weed"
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cuz the first time i saw it in theaters in 3D i was high as shit (why would you even see it any other way?) and i actually had LOW expectations as i was sure it would be corny as fuck.

i tell you, i was hooked from the first 5 minutes of the outer space visuals. that shit looked real as shit, son! then as soon as he went into the avatar i was buggin out like "THAT SHIT LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE CGI!"

yeah, i mean, the story is corny and the acting is laughable @ times (worhington and weaver were meh.. rodriguez was surprisingly decent tho). but the visuals more than make up for EVERYTHING. and fuck what you heard, Lang KILLED his part. ribisi did his thing too. they both played stellar antagonists for a fun-loving, by-the-numbers, family flick. *shrugs*

oh and yeah, the pterodactyl scene definitely conjured a rape encounter. he dominated that shit like "you're mine, bitch" ... which felt mad out of place betwixt all the tree-hugger propaganda.

  

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91. "weed can make any movie good, this is not an argument."
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96. "The fact that you had to mention getting high to watch it"
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says volumes about the flick.

btw I'm not taking shots at you, But that opening statement kinda sums it up for me. Longo just won't take this L and let this post fade away.

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100. "Liking a movie that other people didn't will never be an L."
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This isn't like sports, where bust status can be supported by statistics. It's all opinion.

As far as I'm concerned, if you didn't like the movie, it's your loss. I enjoyed it the first time, enjoyed it the second time, and will continue to enjoy it. I don't care that all of y'all hated it, lol.

If you'd said, "Avatar won't make any money," that's an L. If you'd said, "Avatar will never get a Best Picture nomination," that's an L. Those are quantifiable measurements with hard facts attached. But if you'd said, "Avatar was good/bad/etc," that can't ever really be an L.

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if someone says they liked 'Grown Ups' they are probably not smart.

  

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105. "there's facts about the movie that you lie about"
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that's a problem.

it's an agenda, not reality. that's not what this should be.

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111. "^^ sees it ^^"
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>oh and yeah, the pterodactyl scene definitely conjured a rape
>encounter. he dominated that shit like "you're mine, bitch"
>... which felt mad out of place betwixt all the tree-hugger
>propaganda.

that dragon didn't want it.

dude is a handicapable dragon rapist who can lead the natives better than the natives can lead themselves.

the movie is fun when you can laugh at it and soak it in, but that's also why second viewings suffer -- there's not too much there past the initial thrill.

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90. "and lol @ all the people hating on the special effects..."
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PLEASE list movies that are visually superior.

  

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94. "Did you see Princess Mononoke?"
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I watched that for the first time the other week and it blew me away. I mention it because it has a similar concept to Avatar, but the characters are all dynamic and even the antagonists are charismatic and their motives are sympathetic to an extent. To me, the biggest problem of Avatar were that all of the characters were one-dimensional - literally one of the worst protagonists and villains of all time. It was hard to feel any emotion towards any of them.

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95. "i LOVE Princess Mononoke"
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108. "I hated both of these movies"
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I just didn't get it. I attempted to watch Avatar. It held my attention for about 45 minutes, then I totally lost interest.

PM didn't even last 20 minutes. I have absoultely no desire to see that film ever again.

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112. "Miyazaki >>>>>> Disney, Everyday."
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<-----This Kid loves Ponyo > More than any Disney Princess.

Proof she's mine.

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115. "But they're still sleepin..."
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I've watched Ponyo, Spirited Away and Princess. Howl's Moving Castle and My Neighbor Totoro up next

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118. "Miyazaki don't make bad films."
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All classics.

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maternalbliss
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113. "RE: Still an overrated bullshit film"
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The story is so unoriginal and for that reason alone I can't see anything special about it. O.K. now lets discuss Jake and the princess. I got nothing against interracial relationships but the whole premise of Avatarzan is based on the racial politics of colonization. How is that progrssive? The environmental message, lol, here we go again. Mother earth can take care of herself. The film was really boring to me. I fell asleep on it. Am i gonna watch it again yeah one day but my opinion really won't change.

  

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117. "shits a tad better on HBO"
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sucked & gave me a headache at the theater

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