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2/9: The magic of Tyler Perry’s “House of Payne”
By Rodney Ho | Saturday, February 9, 2008, 03:30 PM

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

One thing I learned Saturday about Tyler Perry at a special panel for TBS’s “House of Payne:” his employees call him Mr. Perry, not Tyler.

That’s respect, which Mr. Perry has earned in spades.

On top of his plays and films, he has taped a whopping 100 episodes of “House of Payne” in less than a year. The show began airing last summer and the 100th episode is scheduled for August.

Most traditional sitcoms take more than four years to reach 100 episodes.

When they told folks in Hollywood their plans, “you can imagine folks just laughed. ‘No way! You guys are crazy!’ ” said Roger Bobb, supervising producer. “Now some of those same people are asking me for jobs.”

He and a few players for “Payne” dispensed advise to more than 120 members of the National Academy of Television Arts & Sciences at Grand Hyatt in Buckhead.

“The thing is, we don’t have to answer to a network,” said head writer Kellie Griffin. “We answer to one person: Mr. Perry. He has total creative control of the show.”

It’s a tough grind of an environment where scripts have to be written quickly and shows produced in a day (as opposed to a week.). “Payne” started with 11 writers last year and only seven made it to the end.

One person asked Roger Bobb if Perry plans to tape before a live audience, but Bobb said the way they tape the shows isn’t conducive to do so. “Our schedule changes so often and we don’t do one run through,” Bobb said. He later told me that he didn’t think the 100 shows suffered creatively by doing them in such a condensed time period but there were some technical compromises and he would have preferred live audiences if that had been possible. But he was still happy with the final product and says the show improved over time.

And Perry, who directed all 100 episodes of “Payne,” never stops. He’s already filmed 10 pilot episodes of a sitcom version of his upcoming film “Meet the Browns.” He’s also tested out a talk show and is considering an animated series as well.

Finally, he’s moving from his Kroq Street studios to a new much bigger 30-acre space near Greenbriar Mall dubbed Tyler Perry Studios. Bobb said they plan to build five soundstages, a 400-seat screening theater and backlot. It is set to open near the end of this year. “This is Atlanta’s Universal Studios,” he promied and might even have public tours, basically a new tourist spot.



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God forbid someone have an opinion on a message board.

His work is lousy but he is making money off of the weaknesses of black folks. I applaud that.

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Damn so Mr. Perry and his work is above criticism these days. There goes progress.


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Especially when it comes to TP.

I didn't even think that was possible.

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shoot multiple scenes for multiple episodes on the same sets each day.

Just a guess.

Lot of crabs on the matter.

I have a 400 year old chip on my shoulder.

what's the advantage of filming that many episodes so quick? just to get to syndication as fast as possible?

they're outright admitting that quality was the least of their concern - they basically created a sweatshop assembly line to crank out as many sub-par episodes as possible just to get to 100.

and how do you make 10 pilots of one show? is that typical?

this dude has money and influence now. he seriously needs to take some time off, study film, spend some time with people other than ghetto black church-goers, and come back and make a real movie.

his primary audience is middle and upper middle class BLACK PEOPLE PERIOD, who paid 40 bucks and up to see his stage shows throughout the 90s?

ass

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you gonna try to pretend EVERY one of his stories doesn't involve an ex-wife with a crack habit or a granny who still lives in the projects?

fuck outta here

>you gonna try to pretend EVERY one of his stories doesn't
>involve an ex-wife with a crack habit or a granny who still
>lives in the projects?
>
>fuck outta here

and, no, all of his stories don't involve what you describe. that's why people defend him and his fans are fiercely loyal, because jackasses purposely spread misinformation about his work.

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i didn't say shit about his audience. although i'll say it now - anyone who watches and enjoys Tyler Perry's work is a hot, ghetto mess.

it's just painfully obvious he needs to broaden his horizons and surround himself with people outside his usual comfort level. like everyone else has said, there's no denying his work ethic. i just wish he had a better prism with which to focus all that energy.

i'm not rooting against him - unlike you, i want him to *improve*.

instead of the new york/hollywood fashion crowd.

:o/

I believe this is akin to what was done with the first "House Of Payne" series when it debuted in the summer of 2006. The series was ten episodes long. They ran in limited syndication in a few markets (in NYC, it was shown Monday-Friday at 11pm on the former UPN station).

I think it was a great idea to do this before it's national run because they were able to get feedback/response for retooling. For example, Allen Payne played the son on the first series. I think that his role was changed to the nephew because of the feedback they got. Since the uncle's (his former father's) name is still Curtis, the name CJ still doesn't make any sense.

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what you said makes sense, though.

run episodes, instead of calling all of them "pilots"

Morons

You can only have 1 pilot
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is all you need to know. Bitches.

ellen degeneres? conan?

might want to think about that comparison...

all of those shows have writers and scripts, do they not?

Talks shows and scripted shows are two different animals. Leno's writers have to write a monologue, maybe prepare some "off-the-cuff" jokes for the guests, and some sketches.

Writing a half-hour sit-com is MUCH different. It's basically apples and oranges (which is why I said you should go with soap operas instead since they write actual scripts).

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have brand new shows every day. "scripted" or not, there are a number of writers that write something down to be used as dialogue during the show. and yes, ur soap opera analogy fits just as well.

You named four standard talk shows: Letterman, Leno, Conan, and Ellen. That's why the others jumped all over your comment.

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cuz your arguments and analogies make you sound stupider than you probably really are. you should probably go back to the Lesson now.








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That's more similar to House of Payne

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i hope u fall into a pool of snot.

you just see buzzwords and get mad. step up your snark game.

that's kind of wack. And that applies to any show, just not Tyler's, that has the gall to use canned laughter in two thousand and fucking eight. I seriously thought we were finally moving past that shit.

kinda like it's done with an automated program but the algorithm is off a little bit.

there are stretches of complete audience silence punctuated by bursts of laughter in the wrong place.

it makes an already-awkward show that much more so

There are points in the show when I'd think there would be laughter but then there's just silence. It's like they save the laugh track for the uncle's put-down lines or "key phrases" as if he was a poorly-executed "Martin" character.

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I'm focused maaaaaaann

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If Mr. Perry's name wasn't on this show people would be burning the network down to get that shit cancelled.

I like seeing black faces on TV as much as the next, but this is just not good.

The show is not funny, and TP is basically hustling the network. Get ya money player, but I refuse to big up his poor work.

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that nigga is wild


its like when tip made Vivrant Thing then Breathe n Stop. at least those songs where dope tho


cannot EVAR knock T. Pains hustle tho. EVAR.

like try to infiltrate that shit and bring it down from the inside.

or at least convince someone to start making decent product.

Do for your culture (c) Jay-Z

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>like try to infiltrate that shit and bring it down from the
>inside.


And niggas on here are wondering why they are being called haters.


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the reason why he can produce so man shows i believe isbecause they write them shows like his stage plays. all of his movies are basically in the format of a stage play. and so just imagine, all his plays run about 2 1/2 hours maybe. break all those up and you got a bunch of episodes. i'd like for him to try to do a live action movie, it would be horrible. nigga watched too much color purple. i loved the plays but all these other things he doing aren't done in high class like the could or should be. He's basically the movie/tv version of Master P. Pumping out product that is so hit or miss but people want. lol

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BWAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHA

have a backbone, bitches!

Half of you CUPCAKES make UNSUBSTANTIATED charges
and critques about PERRY...y'all use Tyler Perry to
make BROAD COMMENTARIES about the BAD TASTE OF BLACK
PEOPLE and that is why you are a bunch of HATERS and
not simply "people with opinions"..
...LOL....a nigga named O_E almost DOZED OFF
to Starksy and Hutch but NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS
would I knock that hustle NOR WOULD I EVER USE
THAT MOVIE to make a BROAD commentary on an entire
ETHNIC GROUP or its TASTE...y'all have scapegoated
Perry and made him proxy for what you don't like
about comedy...and some of you are just mad that you
aren't as funny or successful, but that is understandable..
....I'm just saying don't backtrack now.

You all DID and DO hate on Perry, as in ALL THE FUCKING TIME.

Just look at how TEPID y'all were about his last movie,
which did relatively well and was ACTUALLY fairly smart
and well-written....different tone than his other flicks...
...he has DIVERSITY AND INSIGHT which made you all upset
because it showed that Perry knew what the fuck he was
doing THE WHOLE TIME...y'all really wanted him to be a
big gold-toothed coon and not a thoughtful business man.

Tyler Perry is making this SHIT HAPPEN out here...
....be VERY MUTHAFUCKIN' MAAAAAADD


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its funny to me that everything that black folks say that we wish we could do in Hollywood, Tyler Perry's doing it.

Why can't a black person own their own movie studio? Why can't black folks make movies, successful movies, outside of the Hollywood power structure? Why can't we produce and finance our own movies and not depend on a Hollywood studio to do it? Tyler Perry is doing all these things.

But, because he's not making the types of films so-called "educated" Negroes want to see, they choose to hate instead. I love Spike Lee to death, but he's gotta hope that Paramount or Universal or someone gives him the money to make his movies. Tyler Perry doesn't have to wait, and he doesn't even have to use their soundstages or backlots, he's building his own......



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Well maybe it is for some people around hear, I can't say.

But personally I'm glad he's successful, and that whole thing, I just think his actual movies and show sucks. A lot.

Just like I think Uwe Bol is a terrible director, but I'm impressed at how he keeps getting the money to make movies, over and over, and somehow getting relatively big name actors to star in each one, even if the movie threatens to be worse than his last.

I didn't see the last Tyler Perry flick with Janet but hey, if that's the one that doesn't suck, I'll give it a shot. Cause lord knows the rest of them do.

Sorry, just my opinion.

>
>
>But personally I'm glad he's successful, and that whole thing,
>I just think his actual movies and show sucks. A lot.
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Stop trying to paint yourself like you are being
persecuted for merely having views. That has nothing
to do with it, and you know it, so stop the passive
agressiveness gayness.

You know what the issue is here, so man up and
deal with it.

>But personally I'm glad he's successful, and that whole thing,
>I just think his actual movies and show sucks. A lot.

Good for you.


>Just like I think Uwe Bol is a terrible director, but I'm
>impressed at how he keeps getting the money to make movies,
>over and over, and somehow getting relatively big name actors
>to star in each one, even if the movie threatens to be worse
>than his last.

Right, but does Uwe Bol represent the views of an ENTIRE
RACE?

That is the problem - y'all use Perry to SHIT ON
BLACK PEOPLE.

That is what is wrong.

That is where the dumbfuckery comes in.

Black people have no worse taste in films than
white people.

Like black people made '300' a mega success - LOL

>I didn't see the last Tyler Perry flick with Janet but hey, if
>that's the one that doesn't suck, I'll give it a shot. Cause
>lord knows the rest of them do.

Dickhead,

there is nothing wrong with having an opinion.

Its how you TAKE THAT OPINION and STRETCH to make
BROAD and WRONG and RETARDED commentaries about the
the state of an entire GROUP <--that is where the
dumbassnessnesssnesss comes in.

If you don't feel it, you don't feel it.

Personally, I don't find most of Woody Allen's movies
funny.

I also:

a)Don't knock his hustle

b)Wouldn't use his bad movies(several of which were
successful) to knock JEWS or WHITES. I'd just humbly
say that I didn't feel it.

I'm not racist. Y'all are(even if you are black).


I'm right.

You're wrong.





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I'm sorry, when I replied to your other post, I forgot that you were PTP's resident jackass. My bad.

>I'm sorry, when I replied to your other post, I forgot that
>you were PTP's resident jackass. My bad.

Mad?

Mad?

Mad?

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I just remember that you were the young cat that tries to act black (tries, I don't think you are black--you just found the courage to post the word nigga when earlier you used to use 'ninja) and slings around insults on anyone's opinion that you disagree with, meanwhile setting up a really weak argument that ALMOST ALWAYS uses the term 'strawmen' and/or mentions Tarantino, even if Tarantino has absolutely nothing to do with the subject, because he's one of the only even partially celebrated indy film director that you can ever think of.

So don't worry, seriously, I'm not mad. I just think your opinion is totally worthless.

Trying to come across calm does not mean you actually
are calm.

You're ticked.

And you haven't made an intelligent retort yet.

>I just remember that you were the young cat that tries to act
>black (tries, I don't think you are black--you just found the
>courage to post the word nigga when earlier you used to use
>'ninja)

Lots whites and uncle toms think I'm not black, probably
because I'm intelligent. I'm
blacker, certainly smarter, and probably older than you
are.

I was trying to kick my usage of the term "nigga"
before, but in the recent times I've said "fuck it"
and now just let it fly.

So, yeah:

Shut yo ass up, nigga.


> and slings around insults on anyone's opinion that you
>disagree with, meanwhile setting up a really weak argument
>that ALMOST ALWAYS uses the term 'strawmen' and/or
>mentions Tarantino, even if Tarantino has absolutely nothing
>to do with the subject, because he's one of the only even
>partially celebrated indy film director that you can ever
>think of.

Oh yes - I used to bait all the time to have fun, because
PTP used to be overrun with a bunch of men without Y
chromosomes.

And I picked on Tarantino in part because no one could
ever correctly explain why it is, exactly, that they
liked his films("He's good because he IS...geez").

And it used to make people FUMING mad.

I remember one PTPer wrote me a nasty inbox talking
about I ruined 'Pulp Fiction' and that it was wrong
because that movie got them out of hard times and that
I shouldn't be so judgmental.

I actually have tried to tone it down since then,
but that doesn't mean I tone it down all the time.


And don't think that just because I hurl insults,
that means that I don't know what I'm saying, cuz
I do.


>So don't worry, seriously, I'm not mad. I just think your
>opinion is totally worthless.

Okay. Don't read my posts then. We'd both win:
I don't have to waste my time responding to you,
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ha, seriously, you're like the annoying little kid that keeps screwing with people until they forget they're grown-ups and want to start fighting back in the same immature way. Like the grown-ass man that runs off to tell mom cause 'that little shit hit me!'

I mean I should've quit responding to your posts a while ago, but that nagging 'that stupid-ass kid' thought keeps compelling me to reply. I guess that's why I called you a jackass before (and I'm sticking to it.

As for the actual subject matter--I don't know what debate you're in, and you can say I'm backtracking or building strawmen or whatever, I just think that Tyler Perry makes bad films. Period. I don't care who loves them, I think the movies are bad. I don't think it says anything against black people that Tyler Perry's movies are bad. I don't think it says anything about the black people that like them, or black people in general. That would be silly.

If that's your debate, then save it for someone else.

Oh, and I still don't think you're black. Nor do you write intelligently.

forgive me for being so "sophisticated" that I prefer competently-made movies.

I'm sorry, but the simple fact of Tyler Perry being a black man with his own studio and own films/TV show means little to me considering the overall quality and content of his work. I don't handicap for skin color.

While I wouldn't exactly say I'd rather he wasn't doing anything at all (although I could have gone my whole life without having seen "Diary of a Mad Black Woman"), it's like someone said; he's the movie version of Master P. A highly successful factory of formulaic product of dubious quality.

And unlike the snark about "us" waiting for a "black Wes Anderson", I was pretty content with people like George Tillman myself. Tillman seemed able to direct/produce accessible, fairly unpretentious films about black people that didn't insult my intelligence and weren't so slovenly. I put him on a pedestal far, far above Perry.

And if Spike Lee wanted to turn out nothing but $6 mil pictures like Perry, he wouldn't have to "wait" for major-label money either (Lee financed "Bamboozled" himself, going so far as to shoot most of the picture on Mini DV). But, for some of the types of films Spike wants to make now, he needs real budgets, not the "nigger money" studios usually hand out for black films.

...and don't think Tyler Perry _doesn't_ have to wait on/answer to Lionsgate. It's not as if the dude owns a distribution company. Lionsgate is probably less prone to meddle than the larger studios, but they still have a say.

>And unlike the snark about "us" waiting for a "black Wes
>Anderson", I was pretty content with people like George
>Tillman myself. Tillman seemed able to direct/produce
>accessible, fairly unpretentious films about black people that
>didn't insult my intelligence and weren't so slovenly. I put
>him on a pedestal far, far above Perry.

he ain't doin no numbers, so no one talks about him. period.

that's been my point from day one. y'all mad TP out here gettin it! if the nigga was making bombs, y'all would not talk about him so much.

like i've said countless times, your fuckin beef is with filmgoers, not TP.

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outgrossed every TP film to date.

"Barbershop 2" as well. And one flop, "Beauty Shop".

He directed "Soul Food" and "Men of Honor", two decently performing flicks ("Barbershop" was really the first film of its kind to gross so much) and produced a popular TV series adapted from "Soul Food".

Neither "Barbershop" film is exactly ground-breaking excellence (and Barbershop 2 is a little inert as a comedy), but they're both better films than anything in the TP canon."Beauty Shop" is better produced and more coherent than a Tyler Perry picture, but it's also pretty stale and formulaic, so the only thing it really has to recommend over a Tyler Perry film is technicals.

I have yet to see "Men of Honor."

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>forgive me for being so "sophisticated" that I prefer
>competently-made movies.

You started with a bad strawman, in an attempt
to make you and your innocent views seem
victimized by the rapid Perry-loving niggers
in PTP.

Stop it.



>I'm sorry, but the simple fact of Tyler Perry being a black
>man with his own studio and own films/TV show means little to
>me considering the overall quality and content of his work. I
>don't handicap for skin color.

Another strawman. That is two dumbass strawmen in a row.

No one handicaps for skin color alone. Same way no real
nigga would vote for Alan Keyes if he ran for president versus
Hilary Clinton.

Same way a lot of dumbass movies made by black filmmakers
don't get seen.

Because contrary to popular belief, black people don't
have worse movie going tastes than white people.

>While I wouldn't exactly say I'd rather he wasn't doing
>anything at all (although I could have gone my whole life
>without having seen "Diary of a Mad Black Woman"), it's like
>someone said; he's the movie version of Master P. A highly
>successful factory of formulaic product of dubious quality.

Interesting, because you can say the same thing
for Quentin Tarantino - offbeat, nostalgic, rambling
ass movies that are often about the language and
decor and not the story.

I find none of Tarantino's recent films to be any
better than Perry's, and Perry's last effort was
20,00X better made and more interesting than
Tarantino's.

Of course, all you'll do is cop pleas about how "how
can you compare them???" That is, of course, because
the decorated artsy fartsy filmmaker is the one
who is sucking...you niggas would have no problem
comparing 'I'm Bout it' to 'Heat' if it meant
shitting on the black film.

So basically - Using a formula to be successful
isn't relegated to Perry, or to black films.

Hell, I'm not sure Reece Witherspoon has been in
an original movie her entire career.


>And unlike the snark about "us" waiting for a "black Wes
>Anderson", I was pretty content with people like George
>Tillman myself. Tillman seemed able to direct/produce
>accessible, fairly unpretentious films about black people that
>didn't insult my intelligence and weren't so slovenly. I put
>him on a pedestal far, far above Perry.

Well good for you.

And I(and others) put me on a pedestal above you.

Luckily, this post is not about George Tillman,
or about Orbit_Established, so please, shut the
fuck up, because you're not, at all, insightful
or intelligent.

>And if Spike Lee wanted to turn out nothing but $6 mil
>pictures like Perry, he wouldn't have to "wait" for
>major-label money either (Lee financed "Bamboozled" himself,
>going so far as to shoot most of the picture on Mini DV). But,
>for some of the types of films Spike wants to make now, he
>needs real budgets, not the "nigger money" studios usually
>hand out for black films.

Read that paragraph again. It doesn't make a grain
of motherfucking sense. Not a grain.

Because Spike Lee has nothing to do with Tyler Perry, or
Perry's success, just like Jack Black has shit to do
with Daniel Day Lewis, or just like Uwe Bol has shit to
do with Martin Scorcese.



>...and don't think Tyler Perry _doesn't_ have to wait
>on/answer to Lionsgate. It's not as if the dude owns a
>distribution company. Lionsgate is probably less prone to
>meddle than the larger studios, but they still have a say.

Right, and at the end of the day, we all have to answer
to president Obama.

I mean, is that supposed to diminish how we talk
about his success?

You be inventing dumbass reasons to hate.

I mean, you over here like:

"Fuck Tyler Perry...you know...one day a Comet is
going to strike the earth, ending human civilization,
so that nigga's time on top is temporary."


What a bunch of hoecakes y'all are.


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better than Tarintino's.

My "strawman" arguments were based on points in KCPlayer's response as was my mention of Spike Lee.

You and Bagalisa or whatever his name is just get kicks out of being contrary and inflammatory. I'm not about to get into a back and forth argument with you; you wanna wave your Tyler Perry flag high in the air, by all means do it. But I'll drink muddy water before I'll praise him for his current body of film/TV work, and none of your putdowns, name-calling, and uncivil responses will make me think, feel, or do otherwise.

That movie was fucking ATROCIOUS.

ATROCIOUS.


ATROCIOUS.

>better than Tarintino's.

You're just COPPING OUT because you have SHIT
to say.

Perry's last film >>>>> Tarantino's last film.

Its not even a DISCUSSION, actually.



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everything Black shouldn't have to be directed towards bougie mofos. I'm a bougie intellectual but i certainly cannot hate on what Tyler is doing. He's employing black actors, crew, staff, caterers...he's creating power and avenues for other black filmmakers, writers, actors to get a shot that normally wouldn't...he's giving back to our community in ways i can only dream of. I admire him very very much and would love to work for him.

opinions about the quality of his work are just that; opinions. but sadly, most of the ones i see on this site are firmly planted in classism.

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>everything Black shouldn't have to be directed towards bougie
>mofos. I'm a bougie intellectual but i certainly cannot hate
>on what Tyler is doing. He's employing black actors, crew,
>staff, caterers...he's creating power and avenues for other
>black filmmakers, writers, actors to get a shot that normally
>wouldn't...

^^^^^^indeed. you think everyone working under tyler admires his WORK?...LMAO.


he's giving back to our community in ways i can
>only dream of. I admire him very very much and would love to
>work for him.
>
>opinions about the quality of his work are just that;
>opinions. but sadly, most of the ones i see on this site are
>firmly planted in classism.
>
>d
>
>poplock.blogspot.com

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>everything Black shouldn't have to be directed towards bougie
>mofos. I'm a bougie intellectual but i certainly cannot hate
>on what Tyler is doing. He's employing black actors, crew,
>staff, caterers...he's creating power and avenues for other
>black filmmakers, writers, actors to get a shot that normally
>wouldn't...he's giving back to our community in ways i can
>only dream of. I admire him very very much and would love to
>work for him.
>
>opinions about the quality of his work are just that;
>opinions. but sadly, most of the ones i see on this site are
>firmly planted in classism.

Exactly. It's one thing to not like his work but you can smell the arrogance, the "well I NEVER" attitudes when some of these cats dis his films. Some of the attacks posted on this site in the past went beyond the material.

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is it really hate when folks want better black movies instead of the same church/husband cheatin plot in every movie?


damn the bar is so low at this point that most black folks will watch anything lol



lol @ it being hate for very horribly written, no limit-esque shiet

Ran by a nigga who used to torture and kill black
people.

So you ain't got shit to say about what is good
or bad for black people.

Next.

>is it really hate when folks want better black movies instead
>of the same church/husband cheatin plot in every movie?

No, its hate when you summarize Tyler Perry in that
oversimplistic dumbfuck of a way.

And Hollywood comedies IN GENERAL be formulaic - don't
see why Perry is any worse than anyone else for using
a formula.

Not to mention his last movie which actually went
into some relationship intricasies....I got white
professor colleagues who saw and dug it...and one
is a goddamn therapist.

>damn the bar is so low at this point that most black folks
>will watch anything lol

No, but the bar is low enough that you have a bad
username.

>lol @ it being hate for very horribly written, no limit-esque
>shiet

LOL @ your bad posting + bad username.

>No, but the bar is low enough that you have a bad
>username.
>
>>lol @ it being hate for very horribly written, no
>limit-esque
>>shiet
>
>LOL @ your bad posting + bad username.
>
>

But what do I know?

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"And Hollywood comedies IN GENERAL be formulaic - don't
see why Perry is any worse than anyone else for using
a formula."

Most Hollywood films suck. Tyler Perry has figured out a way to make films that people want to see and make himself a brand name. He was able to go straight to syndication with his TV show. Most people in Hollywood would love to be in Perry's position right now and honestly, you don't get there by making art films.

To me the true judgement should be based on how he helps out other black directors/actors. If TP does that, then he could have been making Meet The Spartans and Epic Movie and it would be worth it.

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