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"Top 10 Movies Since 2000 (Part 2)"
Thu Oct-25-07 02:39 PM by Sponge

          

It's been 2 years since UncleClimax's archived Top 10 Movies Since 2000 post:

http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=23&topic_id=43477&mesg_id=43477&page=15

And it's a little more than 2 years until we reach the end of this decade; now is a pretty good time to do a little update since there has been lots of movies that could rearrange your top 10. So next update for movies of the decade would start near the end of 2009?

I know it's only the end of October, but if one doesn't keep an actual list (or have an unreal memory) of all the movies that were produced and released in this decade, it can be a bitch to try to remember everything so that movies don't fall through the cracks. So, it might take some time if you didn't participate in that 1st post and/or don't want to go off the top of the head. Plus, thinking why this is "better" than that takes time for some people.

I am aware ((c) George Costanza) that IMDb has November releases or later for stuff like the new Coens, PTA, Haynes, etc. So if you post a list before such movies come out, by all means, update them after you've seen a ranking movie post-initial list. The same goes for 2007-IMDb designated movies that get 2008 theatrical releases.


"Rules" (Please at least skim so you can "answer" Item #4) -

1. If you'd like to post different Top 10 lists, by all means, do so. For example, if: you designate a difference b/w your favorites as opposed to best, greatest, or top; you want to make a list for cinematography, Top 10 disappointments; Top 10 based on script/writing, or acting; Top 10 ambitious/innovative; you want to separate shorts, documentaries, or experimental from fictional narratives; or whatever.

2. For just the favorite, best, greatest, and top list(s), you must post at least a 2 or 3 sentence capsule review for each entry! Just write why you like the movie for the sake of discussion, argument, recommendations, and variety. Optional for other types of fun list(s) you guys come up with.

3. Optional - Maybe someone would be awesome enough to devise a scoring system and/or be bookkeeper so that PTP would have sort of an official Top 10 Movies of the 2000s by the year 2010 or earlier.

4. Post up other suggestions to make this thing better.

5. Taking into account 2007-IMDb designated movies that get 2008 theatrical releases, when should this 2007 update project "close?"


So, is this a go? Post away. Maybe. Maybe not. Maybe I'll go fuck myself.

  

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Subject Author Message Date ID
W-E-R-C-K-M-E-I-S-T-E-R H-A-R-M-O-N-I-E-S
Oct 25th 2007
1
Additional Rules - You must rank them and No ties
Oct 25th 2007
2
^^^ Shots fired?
Oct 25th 2007
3
LOL. I was looking through the archived post
Oct 25th 2007
5
      I can dig it nm
Oct 25th 2007
6
Another "Rule" - Fuck Being Fair
Oct 25th 2007
4
Addendum - No Restrictions Whatsoever
Oct 25th 2007
20
      Awards Of Distinction
Oct 26th 2007
26
I'd be more than happy to score/tally these lists.
Oct 28th 2007
41
      ^^^ ***Gets Honorary David Caruso In Jade Award***
Oct 29th 2007
50
           I mean, I posted mine already, lol.
Oct 29th 2007
51
           agreed
Oct 29th 2007
54
RE: Top 10 Movies Since 2000 (Part 2)
Oct 25th 2007
7
top 10
Oct 25th 2007
9
Excellent. Enthusiastic capsules. Making me want to watch
Oct 25th 2007
11
nitpicky, but
Oct 25th 2007
14
      yeah i wanted to look it up first
Oct 25th 2007
15
the proposition was one of the worst films i've ever seen
Oct 28th 2007
39
RE: the proposition was one of the worst films i've ever seen
Oct 29th 2007
45
it wasn't that bad
Oct 29th 2007
47
      I really wanted to like it but almost hated it the 1st time I saw it
Oct 31st 2007
66
forgot
Oct 29th 2007
46
I don't think my top 10 has changed since then
Oct 25th 2007
8
about schmidt ih highly underrated
Oct 30th 2007
65
i'll give you a top 3
Oct 25th 2007
10
the hate kill bill campaign must end
Oct 25th 2007
12
RE: i'll give you a top 3
Oct 25th 2007
13
I haven't seen 10 great movies since 2000
Oct 25th 2007
16
ok, I remembered a couple to make 10
Oct 28th 2007
44
      re: 21 Grams
Oct 29th 2007
52
           RE: re: 21 Grams
Oct 29th 2007
53
My list
Oct 25th 2007
17
^^^thanks to your endorsement
Oct 25th 2007
18
Kurosawa on Kiarostami
Oct 25th 2007
19
have you seen any Kiarostami?
Oct 26th 2007
22
Great fuckin' post. Plus: Extra Credit
Oct 26th 2007
25
      RE: Great fuckin' post. Plus: Extra Credit
Oct 30th 2007
60
I'm surprised there hasn't been a single Pixar film yet.
Oct 26th 2007
21
No matter HOW good the others are...it comes back to Toy Story
Oct 26th 2007
23
      Nah, Incredibles knocks 'em all down.
Oct 27th 2007
30
I'll play
Oct 26th 2007
24
I'm tryna get my wife's top 10 too but she refuses to rank them
Oct 26th 2007
27
Ones I forgot since they weren't in my book
Oct 30th 2007
63
best movie of the 2000s: an inconvenient truth
Oct 26th 2007
28
Here...
Oct 27th 2007
29
good list
Oct 27th 2007
34
Are those ranked with the top being #1 and the bottom being #10?
Oct 28th 2007
42
      not exactly, but more or less.
Oct 29th 2007
55
*sniff*
Oct 27th 2007
31
you want one?
Oct 27th 2007
32
      thank you, this orange soda is just fine
Oct 27th 2007
33
RE: Top 10 Movies Since 2000 (Part 2)
Oct 27th 2007
35
RE: Top 10 Movies Since 2000 (Part 2)
Oct 27th 2007
36
Please post your capsules when you have the chance and
Oct 29th 2007
49
      RE: Please post your capsules when you have the chance and
Oct 29th 2007
57
           Props, man
Oct 29th 2007
58
                RE: Props, man
Nov 01st 2007
72
top 10 movies based on my favorite performances
Oct 28th 2007
37
I was waiting to see the Departed on someone's list
Oct 28th 2007
43
RE: Top 10 Movies Since 2000 (Part 2)
Oct 28th 2007
38
Ineligible/invalid list until you eventually
Nov 29th 2007
96
Longo's List
Oct 28th 2007
40
mine.
Oct 29th 2007
48
I'm glad to see Crash hardly making ANY lists
Oct 29th 2007
56
RE: I'm glad to see Crash hardly making ANY lists
Oct 30th 2007
59
*lurks thru post lookin for movies to see*
Oct 30th 2007
61
Reviews coming soon, here's the list for now:
Oct 30th 2007
62
No ties. Otherwise your list will be invalid and not used for the poll
Nov 01st 2007
68
RE: Top 10 Movies Since 2000 (Part 2)
Oct 30th 2007
64
**Being like Angela Martin** (sort of) ------------>
Nov 01st 2007
69
Looks like someone took the slow train from Philly.
Nov 01st 2007
70
Write-ups
Nov 01st 2007
71
Working list
Oct 31st 2007
67
I hate Joel Schumacker movies
Nov 01st 2007
73
His track recored is iffy at best but I love Tigerland & Lost Boys
Nov 02nd 2007
75
RE: Working list
Nov 02nd 2007
74
RE: Working list
Nov 02nd 2007
76
Update. I gotta replace Anchorman with Primer
Nov 02nd 2007
77
one recommendation
Nov 05th 2007
82
      thanks
Nov 06th 2007
84
           it is intense
Nov 07th 2007
85
I suck balls.
Nov 02nd 2007
78
y'know i never had any desire to be a mod
Nov 12th 2007
89
Sometimes the anchor seems like a bad thing.
Nov 05th 2007
79
People are saying some bold stuff, too. (Which I like, BTW)
Nov 05th 2007
80
      i dont know how i forgot it
Nov 05th 2007
81
two top tens
Nov 06th 2007
83
Invalid/ineligible list until you write those
Nov 29th 2007
97
capsules included
Feb 07th 2008
113
Preliminary list only*
Nov 09th 2007
86
For some reason I thought we agreed on film...
Mar 21st 2008
115
Stats from UC's original 2005 post (Most popular movies)
Nov 12th 2007
87
Werckmeister Harmonies needs a multiplier
Nov 12th 2007
90
My votes...
Nov 12th 2007
88
Invalid/ineligible list until you post those capsule reviews/comments
Nov 29th 2007
98
      Oh right...
Nov 29th 2007
99
RE: Top 10 Movies Since 2000 (Part 2)
Nov 15th 2007
91
For those that have posted lists: Question. (c) Dwight Schrute
Nov 20th 2007
92
B
Nov 24th 2007
93
RE: B
Nov 25th 2007
94
B as well. But a few of them qualify for A
Jan 10th 2008
105
To the Kill Bill voters
Nov 29th 2007
95
No Country For Old Men: Any revisions?
Jan 09th 2008
100
id have to see No Country again
Jan 10th 2008
102
I'm ready to replace City of God with There Will be Blood
Jan 10th 2008
104
      ^^^ ON CRACK
Jan 29th 2008
107
           ^^^on heroin thinking City of God is THAT good
Jan 29th 2008
109
                ^^^on point
Feb 07th 2008
112
im shocked...
Jan 10th 2008
101
No Country would def make my list
Jan 10th 2008
103
Are we still doing this?
Jan 29th 2008
106
*golf claps*
Jan 29th 2008
108
Glad to see you changed your mind and decided to
Jan 30th 2008
110
I'm way late on this, but fuck it, I can't sleep and I'm bored.
Feb 07th 2008
111
Here's my 10 (capsules) +20 more (list)
Mar 21st 2008
114
Very interesting list...
Mar 21st 2008
116
RE: Very interesting list...
Mar 21st 2008
118
RE: Here's my 10 (capsules) +20 more (list)
Mar 21st 2008
117
      RE: Here's my 10 (capsules) +20 more (list)
Mar 21st 2008
119
great thread!
Aug 28th 2008
120
Here are the results. About 17 months late.
Jan 15th 2010
121
thanks for the unglamorous toiling
Jan 16th 2010
122
RE: thanks for the unglamorous toiling
Jan 16th 2010
123
RE: Here are the results. About 17 months late.
Jan 16th 2010
124

Deebot
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1. "W-E-R-C-K-M-E-I-S-T-E-R H-A-R-M-O-N-I-E-S"
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2. "Additional Rules - You must rank them and No ties"
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No alphabetical listing. No "in no order" or stuff like that.

  

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3. "^^^ Shots fired?"
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lol
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5. "LOL. I was looking through the archived post"
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and said, "No. We're not having that here." Practically, it wouldn't work, either, if folks are down w/ having sort of a AP or BCS poll for movies.

Must choose. Indulge your objectivity and/or subjectivity.

  

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6. "I can dig it nm"
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4. "Another "Rule" - Fuck Being Fair"
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Thu Oct-25-07 02:57 PM by Sponge

          

If so and so has 2, 3, or whatever movies in your top 10, don't give other movies and directors a chance by limiting your list to only 1 movie per director. Be ruthless.

  

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20. "Addendum - No Restrictions Whatsoever"
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Your no holds barred top 10 meaning:

No need to put in a comedy if your working list is all made of dramas even if it means you can't give props to 40 YOV or something you really love (you can do an honorable mention or say 40 YOV @ #12, for instance). No need to put in a foreign flick if your working list is all U.S. movies. Etc., etc.

  

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26. "Awards Of Distinction"
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2007 Superbad Award
-List of Top 15 or more w/ McDeezNuts-ian comments. See Post #24.

2007 Superbad MF Award
-Top 15 or more w/ Uncle Climax-ian and Colonel K-ian capsules. See Post #9 and Post #17.

David Caruso In Jade For Perpetuity Award
-Same conditions for Superbad MF Award except that one writes longer capsules and follows all the "rules."


**I'm not eligible for any of the above 'cause I'm the dumbass that created them**

  

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41. "I'd be more than happy to score/tally these lists."
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I've got some time in between papers and thesis research sessions, so I'd be honored to come up with this.

My movies: http://russellhainline.com
My movie reviews: https://letterboxd.com/RussellHFilm/
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50. "^^^ ***Gets Honorary David Caruso In Jade Award***"
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That's excellent, man. No rush, though; this thing is sort of open-ended until a bit after the major batch 2007 IMDb listed movies get released in 2008 (which is I dunno when; there should be a rough point for that though -- Jan., Feb.?).

Plus, the participation thus far is less than I hoped for. Hope that people are just waiting out for movies which they're heavily anticipating, putting heavy thought into ranking, and/or thinking up those little write-ups.

Working lists and capsules are more than welcome.

  

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51. "I mean, I posted mine already, lol."
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And God knows I can't wait for No Country For Old Men and There Will Be Blood. But will they automatically crack the Top 10? That'd be one hell of a feat.

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54. "agreed"
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I think we should wait until the end of 2007 release season, or at least until more of the regulars weigh in.

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7. "RE: Top 10 Movies Since 2000 (Part 2)"
In response to Reply # 0
Thu Oct-25-07 03:15 PM by UncleClimax

  

          

my new top 10:

top three are probably interchangeable.

1. the pianist
2. city of god
3. the proposition
4. machuca
5. yi-yi
6. kill bill
7. i <3 huckabees
8. oldboy
9. punch drunk love
10. paid in full



honorable mention:

the departed
the life aquatic
the squid and the whale
sexy beast
adaptation.
high fidelity
spring, summer, fall winter...and spring
team america
hotel rwanda
hero
the man on the train
old school
born into brothels
code unknown
amores perros
ghost world
the darjeeling limited
batman begins
man on fire
raising victor vargas
the incredibles
brothers
water
3 iron
3 burials of melquiades estrada
grizzly man
y tu mama tambien
time of the wolf
bend it like beckham
open hearts


im off to lunch. i'll give sentences for my top 10 upon my return. you know im a list freak, so i dig this.

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9. "top 10"
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Thu Oct-25-07 04:35 PM by UncleClimax

  

          

1. the pianist
- i feel like this movie is nearly perfect. who is best equipped to make a movie about THE historical event of the 20th century? the only great living director who was in the concentration camps! virtuoso performance from Brody.

2. city of god
- expertly made, though now i do see flaws in it. but it was such a visceral tale...and i keep coming back to it. so many interesting aspects. and plus, anything brazilian is better.

3. the proposition
- the best western since the 70s, imo. the photography is breathtaking..guy pearce is a beast. damn near every character is nailed by the actors. violent, poetic, beautiful.

4. machuca
- probably the most underappreciated film of the decade. great chilean film about a group of kids during the time around allende's murder. very moving, tender. damn near teared up the first time i saw it in the theater. not quite as deeply felt when i saw it again recently on dvd, but still has fantastic moments.

5. yi-yi
- its been a while since i last saw this one. it may go up next time i see it. I just remember being really floored by Yang's compositions. really a film that envelops you in its world, the world of that family.

6. kill bill
- vol 1 was one of my most enjoyable, exciting experience in a theater ever. people wanna nitpick about uma thurman and her inability to do real kung fu and samurai swordplay, but fuck that...its a dope ass movie, with the usual tight, witty tarantino wordplay. i especially loved the anime portion (maybe since i'm not an anime head).

7. i <3 huckabees
- hilarious film, great cast. i love quoting this. jon brion's music is fun too. another one i watch a lot and always enjoy.

8. oldboy
- shit hit me deep when i saw it. great action, but also i though the storyline was deep, even if people wanna say its ending is gimmicky or underwhelming (all he could come up with was HYPNOSIS?!). i didn't mind it much. the style was dope as hell.

9. punch drunk love
- never been a huge PTA fan, but this film did it. i don't even like adam sandler, comedy or otherwise. but this film was spot-on in nearly every aspect. nothing like a conventional romantic comedy, but it felt more real than 99% of them somehow.

10. paid in full
- one of the best hood movies ever. and i think the direction is really on point. mekhi phifer, wood harris and cam'ron all give great performances. some really hilarious moments...another hugely quotable movie that i have to watch at least once every 3 months.

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11. "Excellent. Enthusiastic capsules. Making me want to watch"
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those movies again.

  

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14. "nitpicky, but"
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Roman Polanski never went to a concentration camp. The rest of his family did but he escaped by hiding out with a sympathetic Catholic farmer.

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15. "yeah i wanted to look it up first"
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but i was too lazy. LOL
i remember it being something like that though.
thanks.

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39. "the proposition was one of the worst films i've ever seen"
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nick cave never needs to touch a film again

ugh.

get money.

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45. "RE: the proposition was one of the worst films i've ever seen"
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>nick cave never needs to touch a film again
>
>ugh.


LOL

i dont know what ur beef is...but whatever it may be, how can u front on the photography, at the VERY least?

i can understand not liking it or even hating it, for whatever reason (i take it the writing is not ur flava?)

okay...but one of the worst films u've ever seen? u frontin

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47. "it wasn't that bad"
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It was slow as shit, but it was fimled beautifully and it had a really cool premise. I wasn't a big fan, but if it's the worst movie you've seen, then maybe you haven't seen a really shitty movie...

  

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66. "I really wanted to like it but almost hated it the 1st time I saw it"
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I've caught bits & pieces of it since then & it's sorta growing on me but I dont know if I'd ever wanna sit through the whole thing again. I love the score tho.

  

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46. "forgot"
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almost famous in the honorable mentions

and Snatch. glaring omission...definitely one of my top 10 favorite films. i dont care what any guy ritchie hater says..im not a brit, and i dont give a fuck about authenticity, nor do i give a fuck about tarantino-biting or whatever other criticisms you could level at ritchie...this film is golden.

how you can hate on the witty, hilarious, cool, snappy, gangsta dialogue is beyond me. the most quotable movie of the 2000s.

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8. "I don't think my top 10 has changed since then"
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this is my old, unranked list from the last post

-Yi Yi
-City of God
-In the Mood for Love
-Bus 174
-Ghost World
-Amores Perros
-25th Hour
-High Fidelity
-Last Life in the Universe
-Before Sunset

(Honorable Mention: About Schmidt, Memento, Oldboy, The 40 Year Old Virgin...)

All I can think of at the moment are a bunch of other honorable mentions (Departed, Letters from Iwo Jima, Knocked Up, Children of Men, Pan's Labyrinth...) but I'll have to think about this.

I'll rank them and add thoughts later (I will likely have Yi Yi at #1). City of God could possibly get bumped down to honorable mention status, but I can't see anything else leaving the list.

  

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10. "i'll give you a top 3"
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1. CITY OF GOD
2. ATONEMENT
3. MEMENTO

sorry i just find it impossible to rank stuff or even remember what i've seen

i'll do a top ten films that SHOULDN'T be in the top ten though

1. lost in translation
2. eternal sunshine of the spotless mind
3. lotr 1
4. lotr 2
5. lotr 3
6. kill bill
7. kill bill 2
8. serenity
9. hero
10. crouching tiger hidden dragon

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>6. kill bill
>7. kill bill 2

pourquoi?

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13. "RE: i'll give you a top 3"
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>1. CITY OF GOD
>2. ATONEMENT
>3. MEMENTO

Your posts are always interesting. Post little 2-3 sentence capsules on why you like 'em.

>sorry i just find it impossible to rank stuff

It is impossible. I mean off the top, I have at least 5 movies that are worthy for #1 and prolly like them equally and pitting them against eachother to find out which is better is arbitrary, but...

Mulling over their ranking forces you to verbalize (at least in your head) why you like those movies so much. So it is fruitful in that sense. Might make you even think, "Damn, didn't know I like this that much." You can even realize your present taste or see how much of you have changed...which can lead to interesting movie posts in PTP.

>or even remember what i've seen

That's why I posted this now instead of late December or early January to give time to browse websites or mags to help jog your memory. The web is full of yearly top-ten lists by film reviewers that'll help in that regard.

The crazy dedicated thing to do would be to browse IMDb by year and by title see all the releases in each year from 2000-2007.

I won't post mine 'til much later.

>i'll do a top ten films that SHOULDN'T be in the top ten
>though

Ha, ha. Excellent.

  

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16. "I haven't seen 10 great movies since 2000"
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but I'll put 8 forward:

1. Werckmeister Harmonies

I don't really know what to say, because this movie leaves you speechless. I CAN say that the camerawork and score are magical, and it places you in a devastated setting like no other. There are a few scenes in particular that are more powerful than anything you've seen in awhile.

2. In the Mood for Love

Beautiful. Nothing else needs to be said really.

3. Mulholland Dr

The definition of a fun movie. It SHOULD entertain the hell outta you whether you try to put sense to it or not. The film doesn't flow naturally based on narrative, but emotionally it does. Any film that you could think about for eternity is a really good one. 50 years from now this will still be fresh.

4. Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter...and Spring

In terms of watching a character grow, this movie is amazing and sincere. Cinematography is unreal.

5. Memento

Great, great premise. Allows the viewer to actively participate. Rewarding if you follow all the way through. You feel smarter after you watch this.

6. Caché

Not for everybody, but if you're into it, there's infinite levels of suspense. It can drive you crazy. The quietness of this film just gets under your skin. Fuck Code Unknown. Sorry, couldn't help it.

7. The Pianist

It's been awhile since I've seen this, but...I haven't forgotten how good it is. Very poignant war movie, deserves its comparison to Schindler's List, could very well be better. Simply put, this movie shows the beauty in helping people.

8. Pan's Labyrinth

For originality and storytelling alone. Quality all around.

  

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44. "ok, I remembered a couple to make 10"
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9. 21 Grams

PTP isn't very fond of this, but I still am. Gritty n grimey with powerful acting, and missile titties. Even if you think the structure is the wrong decision, it has its positives.

10. Ghost World

Just a great blend of nerdiness, comedy, and drama. ALL of the performances are good, even Scarlett. This movie is genuine.

  

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52. "re: 21 Grams"
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First movie of the new millenia that I left feeling actual anger.

Later there was Crash which made me more angry, but I felt insulted by 21 Grams. Man that movie pissed me off.

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53. "RE: re: 21 Grams"
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>First movie of the new millenia that I left feeling actual
>anger.
>
>Later there was Crash which made me more angry, but I felt
>insulted by 21 Grams. Man that movie pissed me off.

co sign. though i was more angered at 21 grams, insulted by crash.

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17. "My list"
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1. Yi Yi (Yang)

2. In the Mood for Love (Wong)

3. The Pianist (Polanski)

4. Syndromes and a Century (Joe)

5. What Time is it There? (Tsai)

6. Ten (Kiarostami)

7. Twentynine Palms (Dumont)

8. The Fast Runner (Kunuk)

9. Cache (Haneke)

10. The New World (Malick)


Hon. Mention

Dogville (Trier)
Master and Commander (Weir)
United 93 (Greengrass)
Time of the Wolf (Haneke)
2046 (Wong)
The Wind that Shakes the Barley (Loach)
Vera Drake (Leigh)
Cafe Lumiere (Hou)

-A coincidence that 4 out of my top 5 are Asian films? Nope. If there's one unifying story about the disparate 2000s it's that the U.S. and Europe have lost any claim to the crown they once owned by birthright. Asian filmmakers are producing works of exceptional aesthetic sensitivity, insight, and formal innovation. I could have made a list entirely of Asian films (yes, I made some concessions to *fairness*). And with the rapid growth of a media-savvy, urban middle class all throughout East and Southeast Asia, it's hard to imagine this trend will stop anytime soon.

*YI YI is a complete masterpiece, and its popularity here is very encouraging; just check out its appearance on lists of very different tastes. A profound and totally engrossing film about family and human existence. Even Yang's crazier ideas work perfectly here.

*IN THE MOOD FOR LOVE is Wong distilled to his essence. It's almost too beautiful (the ugly documentary-footage appearance of Charles de Gaulle is a necessary blemish), but how many films can you say that about?

*SYNDROMES AND A CENTURY is the newest film here. The structure could be a tiresome gimmick in the hands of many, but Joe (the approved anglicization of director Apichatpong Weerasethakul's name) resists making it intellectual. This film is currently banned in Thailand, the country of its origin.

*WHAT TIME IS IT THERE? is my somewhat arbitrary choices of the string of great films Tsai has produced in the last eight years. Like Ozu he seemingly repeats himself, working over the same themes with the same cast and same aesthetics. But each film is insightful in its own way, and the sum of his work is a coherent artistic vision of the world that few can match.


-The best European directors are icy intellectuals--making films you admire but can't love. You could call Trier, Haneke, and Dumont sadists and you'd get no argument from me. But they're work is clearly a cut above the sitcom sentiment that so much of European national cinema has lapsed into. I thought about putting a Mike Leigh or Loach film on here, but there best work precedes this decade.

*Roman Polanski is a remnant of an earlier age. While his view of the world is just as bleak (and, as UncleClimax and I discussed above, he's actually earned it) as Trier and company, he doesn't reduce his art into formal intellectual games. THE PIANIST is ultimately a film about the meaninglessness of human suffering (unlike Spielberg, he doesn't think great tragedy inspires the human spirit to rise above it), but he presents us an emotionally complete world. Love, humor, sorrow, and incomprehensible cruelty all coexist.

*TWENTYNINE PALMS is a vicious slap in the face that satirizes the American response to the world after Sept. 11. Ideally an American would have made this, but a pretentious Belgian will have to do.

*CACHE is the most entertaining film Haneke has made and his most immediately relevant. There's a lot I don't know about France and Algeria, but I know enough to realize this film cuts pretty deep. Also one of the few justified uses of digital video in a feature-length film.


-Americans have somehow forgotten how to make films that are both entertaining and meaningful. And it's hard to blame the studios. Spielberg gets a blank check whenever he needs it. Marty got insane amounts of cash for Gangs of NY and The Aviator. Even young bucks like Wes Anderson and Richard Kelly get massive budgets for their cinematic indulgences. So why no masterpieces? Hard to tell. But the fact that they're a generation (generations really) that knows more about movies than it does about life probably has something to do with it.

*Terrence Malick avoided this pitfall, of course, by not making any movies for twenty years. Whatever he did between 1978 and 1999, he didn't get stale. It's too early to say if Thin Red Line and THE NEW WORLD are the equal of Badlands and Days, but they are masterpieces that address American history with a seriousness and poetic sensibility that Scorsese and Spielberg could never match. Who else would use Wagner to score Pocahontas swimming?


-The rest of the world makes good movies too.

*TEN is probably not Kiarostami's best film, but as the world best living filmmaker his interesting side projects are other people's career peaks. Again, a restrictive approach that a European filmmaker would likely have turned into a clever gimmick. Kiarostami makes one of the most moving films I've ever seen.

*THE FAST RUNNER is probably the only real example of old-fashioned storytelling on here. That it comes from a totally fresh perspective (an Inuit folk tale adapted by Canadian-Inuit filmmakers) is hardly surprising. This film has the same excitement of early Griffith, Ford, Stroheim, and company. Obviously Kanuk is a formally educated filmmaker and to claim some sort of "naive brilliance" on his part would be condescending. But it's refreshingly straight-forward and unironic.


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i'll probably see Ten tomorrow night.

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19. "Kurosawa on Kiarostami"
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RE: Ten
That's part of the LACMA series, right? Did you catch any of it?

Here's what Kurosawa supposedly said of Kiarostami:

When Indian director Satyajit Ray died in 1992, Akira Kurosawa praised him as "the greatest social realist filmmaker who ever lived." But when Kurosawa saw Abbas Kiarostami's "Through the Olive Trees" (1994), he said of the Iranian writer-director that "God has found the right person to take Satyajit Ray's place."

  

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22. "have you seen any Kiarostami?"
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This is minimal even for him. You stand warned (and encouraged!).

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25. "Great fuckin' post. Plus: Extra Credit"
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>I could have made a list entirely of Asian films
>(yes, I made some concessions to *fairness*).

You get an "A" on this homework assignment. Points were taken off for being fair; thus, not following directions. However, let me mull it over 'cause while I did say don't be fair, I only specified not limiting oneself to 1 movie per director. (Should've just said "No restrictions.")

So, I offer you extra credit. If I end up giving you an A+ w/o EC, the EC will still help your overall grade for the semester.

Extra Credit:
Give your no holds barred Top 10. Mandatory capsules for the new entries on your list.

Otherwise, fantastic write-ups. You should do more of this and one-sentence stylistic summarizations (at least) in the WDYWLW posts.

>*YI YI
This is definitely in the running for my top spot. I particularly enjoyed the themes of personal integrity and cause-and-effect (individual action is rarely individual in consequence). Stuff like, I paraphrase, "We never live the same day twice" and a lot of what the Japanese businessman talked about could be disastrous in other heavy-handed director's, well, hands. Not to mention, unfussy visual motifs and subtle sound design.

>*IN THE MOOD FOR LOVE
This one, too. Amazing how some of the settings aren't beautiful (as in clean and unblemished) per se, but the way people talk about the movie, it sounds like everything is as elegant as Mrs. Chan's cheongsams.

>*SYNDROMES AND A CENTURY
Still haven't seen this, but Weerasethakul is a talent.

>*WHAT TIME IS IT THERE?
Goodbye Dragon, Inn is the one that's likely to crack my Top 10. GBI just got stronger on a revisit; can't say the same for WTIIT. Although, my first encounter w/ the latter was "thrilling."

>*TWENTYNINE PALMS
Dumont's work is definitely something I coldly admire.

>*CACHE
Much more terrifying than some shock/gore horror nowadays. Unfussy Hitchockian work. I can only imagine a big studio remake (it's not on Ron Howard's IMDb page).

>-Americans have somehow forgotten how to make films that are
>both entertaining and meaningful.

If you're talking about the big name American directors and masterpieces of masterpieces, nevermind. But if you're talking about American cinema as a whole and just great movies, maybe it just seems that way 'cause us Americans living in the U.S. have no filtering out of the mediocre movies. I'm sure Asia has about the same ratio of good:bad movies.

>So why no
>masterpieces? Hard to tell. But the fact that they're a
>generation (generations really) that knows more about movies
>than it does about life probably has something to do with it.

Olmi's quote, right?

>*TEN
2 people at a time in a car reveals a great deal of the issues of women in Iran today. I applaud his daring.

>*THE FAST RUNNER
Impressive.

  

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60. "RE: Great fuckin' post. Plus: Extra Credit"
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I won't make a whole new list, but you can bet that a no-holds barred list would have Three Times on there.

>Otherwise, fantastic write-ups. You should do more of this
>and one-sentence stylistic summarizations (at least) in the
>WDYWLW posts.

Thanks. With WDYWLW I'm always more interested in what other folks are watching.

>>*SYNDROMES AND A CENTURY
>Still haven't seen this, but Weerasethakul is a talent.

See it. The best film from that New Crowned Hope series.


>>*WHAT TIME IS IT THERE?
>Goodbye Dragon, Inn is the one that's likely to crack my Top
>10. GBI just got stronger on a revisit; can't say the same
>for WTIIT. Although, my first encounter w/ the latter was
>"thrilling."

Like I said, depending on the day and mood, it could just as easily have been GBI. Other directors have a coherent body of work, but Tsai really is making one long, amazing movie.


>>*TWENTYNINE PALMS
>Dumont's work is definitely something I coldly admire.

I think he's probably a bad person. I miss the cold-blooded bastards who were still lovable romantics at heart (Peckinpah, Melville).


>Much more terrifying than some shock/gore horror nowadays.
>Unfussy Hitchockian work. I can only imagine a big studio
>remake (it's not on Ron Howard's IMDb page).


>If you're talking about the big name American directors and
>masterpieces of masterpieces, nevermind. But if you're
>talking about American cinema as a whole and just great
>movies, maybe it just seems that way 'cause us Americans
>living in the U.S. have no filtering out of the mediocre
>movies. I'm sure Asia has about the same ratio of good:bad
>movies.

I don't doubt that the ratio of good:bad is basically the same everywhere and at any time. Americans can still make interesting, entertaining films. And there's a lot of stateside talent. And maybe the works Americans are producing are going to grow in my esteem with age (Vertigo got middling reviews when it was released).

But I just don't see a lot of great films getting produced stateside in the last few years. Pixer does some excellent work, but not quite Miyazaki. The Judd Apataow consortium have some funny films, but where's our Sturges? Our Billy Wilder?

That said, I have ridiculously high expectations for There Will Be Blood and No Country For Old Men. Here's hoping the USA makes a 4th quarter comeback.


>>So why no
>>masterpieces? Hard to tell. But the fact that they're a
>>generation (generations really) that knows more about movies
>>than it does about life probably has something to do with
>it.
>
>Olmi's quote, right?

A paraphrasing. Olmi's is even harsher:

"The first generation of filmmakers looked at life and made movies. The second looked at life and the movies of the first and made movies. The third looked only at the movies and made movies. The fourth looks neither at life nor the movies, but at equipment in catalogs."


>2 people at a time in a car reveals a great deal of the issues
>of women in Iran today. I applaud his daring.

This daring is probably why we don't see too many Kiarostami films these days. Sad.


>>*THE FAST RUNNER
>Impressive.

I don't know anybody who sees this movie and doesn't like it. Probably the best cheating scene in movie history.

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21. "I'm surprised there hasn't been a single Pixar film yet."
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I'll post mine in a bit, that was just my initial reaction.

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but Nemo is my GOAT Pixar joint.

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I have a notebook where I put all my movie ratings, so it should be a snap to find the top 10 since 2000... The tough part is that there are a shitload of movies that I gave an A+.

Off the top, I'm thinking Sin City, Memento, Kill Bill, Spiderman2, LOTR (does that count as 3 movies? shit, that could dominate the list)... and it's hard not to throw in some comedies like Borat and 40 Year Old Virgin...

Okay, I got my book. Here are my A+ joints:
- Batman Begins
- Borat
- The Believer
- Crash (yes, hate on me)
- Clerks 2
- Chronicles of Narnia (yes, it was great)
- City of God
- Donnie Darko (more hate coming my way)
- Dave Chapelle's Block Party
- The Departed (did PTP hate this?)
- Eternal Sunshine
- Equilibrium
- 40 Year Old Virgin
- Fade to Black (Jay-Z)
- F*ck (dope ass documentary)
- Grindhouse (I'm counting as one movie - hey, I only bought one ticket to see it)
- High Fidelity
- Hotel Rwanda
- Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix (probably the best one yet)
- Kill Bill (both counted as one, because I can)
- LOTR (all three counted as one, just because it's too hard otherwise)
- Lucky Number Slevin
- The Machinist
- Matchstick Men
- Memento
- Pan's Labyrinth
- Red Dragon (and yes, I've seen Manhunter)
- Spiderman 2
- Shrek (sure to catch shit for this one)
- Sin City
- Star Wars 3 - Revenge of the Sith
- Spanglish
- Stewie Griffin - The Untold Story
- Saw 2
- Superbad
- Thank You For Smoking
- This Film Is Not Yet Rated (another great documentary)
- The Village (mad shit coming my way for this)
- V for Vendetta
- Wedding Crashers
- XMen 2

Well, that's the list of A+ movies I've seen since June 2004 (when I started the book). There might be some before that I am forgetting, and it's possible some pre-2000 movies slipped in the list above, since I rate all movies I watch regardless of the year.
For example, Kill Bill, that’s one prior to 2004 that should be on the list.

Now, in my defense of some of these, I judge movies based on what they are and what I expect from them, and most importantly, how well they entertained me and/or moved me, or provoked thought. So a movie like Chapelle's Block Party or Fade to Black are not expected to be more than they are, which is damn fucking entertaining.

Okay, let's try to get a top 10 out of this...
1) Sin City (saw it twice in the theater, and have seen it twice on DVD - one of my favorite movies EVER)
2) Memento (damn I love this fucking movie, some of the coolest ideas ever)
3) Donnie Darko (saw the director’s cut, and I love it – and yes, it does make sense to me)
4) LOTR (I’m putting all three in one slot, so what – these are fucking amazing, and epic)
5) High Fidelity (an all-time favorite)
6) Spiderman 2 (best super hero movie ever)
7) Clerks 2 (I laugh my ass off every time)
8) Borat (wanted to put it higher… it probably deserves it)
9) 40 Year Old Virgin (non-stop laughs and a cool story too)
10) Kill Bill (yes, both count as one movie, and it fucking rocks - narrowly beats out Grindhouse for the last spot... but I've only seen each one once, so it might change on repeat viewings)

Just missed inclusion… for now:
11) Grindhouse (yes, I’m counting it once… how did this slip outta the top 10 though?)
12) The Machinist (dope as fuck)
13) Lucky Number Slevin (surprisingly awesome, IMO)

Go ahead and hate on me for these selections, but I loved every movie on this list.

PS If Superbad makes me laugh as hard on the second viewing as the first, it's a strong contender...

  

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27. "I'm tryna get my wife's top 10 too but she refuses to rank them"
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It might end up just being an unranked list of 10.

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Gladiator, 25th Hour, and Almost Famous.

They can't crack the top 10, but they're definitely honorable mentions.

  

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10. amelie
- the feel good movie of the decade.

9. letters from iwo jima
- best war movie so far. eastwood is a master.

8. born into brothels
- the power of education. yes, there is a solution to poverty.

7. pan's labyrinth
- originality and execution.

6. anchorman: the legend of ron burgundy
- probably the funniest movie i've ever seen. too many quotables to count.

5. why we fight
- great look at how and why the military-industrial complex in america spun out of control. anyone confused as to why we screwed up in vietnam and iraq and will probably do the same in iran should watch this.

4. munich
- a perfect parable for post-9/11 america. the last shot in the film is the clue.

3. united 93
- almost certainly the best film on 9/11 that will ever be made. the closest thing to actually being there on that day. i was physically shaken after watching this.

2. lord of the rings: the fellowship of the ring
- the best and most groundbreaking fantasy film since star wars. "made me feel like a kid again" is a cliche, but well... there you have it.

1. an inconvenient truth
- maybe the quintessential example of the power of film. i had seen al gore's environment presentation on public television a few years before this film came out and all i could think was, "it's really a shame more people won't see this." thanks to an inconvient truth, not only did more people see it, but it tangibly and almost immediately shifted public opinion as to both the scope and immediacy of the problem. the environment went from being an issue for bleeding heart liberal tree-huggers to one that is now rightfully on par with the economy and national security. many, many years from now, this might be seen as the film that saved the world.

"i smack clowns with nouns, punch herbs with verbs..."

  

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The Pianist
Gut-wrenching and deeply moving account of the iron grip of Hitler's War. Profound and career-crowning performance from Brody. Stunning visuals that burn-in to the visual cortex forever.

Letters from Iwo Jima
Eastwood's best. Far superior to the lacking M$B, it completely envelops and gives insight to the "enemy," and enables the viewer to feel compassion not thought possible.

Chidren of Men
Arguably one of the the best sci-fi movies ever made, containing the all-time top action scene in film history. The gritty world created Cuaron is the most believable since Blade Runner.

Bourne Ultimatum
Top action movie ever. Hands down. Nothing comes close. The perfect summer movie by one of the top directors working today.

Hotel Rwanda
Cheadle transcends an already superb film with grace and dignity his character and the sensitive subject-matter deserved. The scene with his family in the car at the checkpoint is one of the most riveting in memory.

United 93
Greengrass takes a supremely controversial topic and handles it deftly and with great care. This would be the film I would show a 9/11 survivor, as it demonstrates what true heroism should be.

The Incredibles
Not a big animation fan, but Longo's comment got me thinking and yes, this is another perfect film. There is absolutely nothing wrong with it. The performances all flawless and the entertainment non-stop.

Collateral
Jamie Foxx's best role to date. I thought he was far superior in this to his performance in Ray. Mann's edgy direction and visual style is magnetic and powerful. I couldn't turn away.

Memento
Not since Hitchcock has a plot been so masterfully twisted. Nolan and Pearce kill it.

Gladiator
Say what you want, but this is another perfect film. It has everything and in epic proportions. Not since the mega-productions of mid-century has the action been so glorious. From the hypercolor imagery to Crowe's vivid performance, it rocks.


. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

*Effasig*

  

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"i smack clowns with nouns, punch herbs with verbs..."

  

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42. "Are those ranked with the top being #1 and the bottom being #10?"
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55. "not exactly, but more or less."
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it would probably go like this:

The Pianist
Letters from Iwo Jima
Hotel Rwanda
United 93
Chidren of Men
Memento
Collateral
Gladiator
Bourne Ultimatum
The Incredibles

why?

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I smell latte.

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We got whole milk, no-fat, or soy.

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33. "thank you, this orange soda is just fine"
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And how you people can even have this discussion before the theatrical release of Fred Claus is beyond me.





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35. "RE: Top 10 Movies Since 2000 (Part 2)"
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In The Mood for Love (2000)
Dolls (2002)
Three: "Going Home" (2002)
Punch-Drunk Love (2002)
Last Life in the Universe (2003)
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (2004)
The Taste of Tea (2004)
Survive Style 5+ (2004)
The Squid and the Whale (2005)
Hotel Chevalier/The Darjeeling Limited (2007)

Also enjoyed:
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (2000)
High Fidelity (2000)
Before Night Falls (2000)
What Time Is It There? (2001)
Storytelling (2001)
Blue Gate Crossing (2002)
Unknown Pleasures (2002)
Blissfully Yours (2002)
The Brown Bunny (2003)
Bright Future (2003)
Tropical Malady (2004)
The Wayward Cloud (2005)
Syndromes and a Century (2006)

Still need to see (or see again):
I Heart Huckabees
Kings and Queen
Yi Yi
Eureka
Cafe Lumiere
Platform

Least favorite movies that people like:
Traffic
Memento
Lost in Translation
Amelie
Better Luck Tomorrow
Garden State
Crash
Sideways
Babel

  

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36. "RE: Top 10 Movies Since 2000 (Part 2)"
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>Still need to see:
>I Heart Huckabees
>Kings and Queen
>Yi Yi
>Eureka
>Cafe Lumiere
>Platform

Werckmeister Harmonies

  

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49. "Please post your capsules when you have the chance and"
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>In The Mood for Love (2000)
>Dolls (2002)
>Three: "Going Home" (2002)
>Punch-Drunk Love (2002)
>Last Life in the Universe (2003)
>Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (2004)
>The Taste of Tea (2004)
>Survive Style 5+ (2004)
>The Squid and the Whale (2005)
>Hotel Chevalier/The Darjeeling Limited (2007)

I assume this is ranked. Is this #1-10 from top to bottom?

  

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57. "RE: Please post your capsules when you have the chance and"
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Mon Oct-29-07 11:12 PM by Sam

  

          

>>In The Mood for Love (2000)
One of those rare instances (for me at least) where I loved Wong Kar-wai's prior 3 films and was anxiously awaiting this one, watching all the trailers on the website over and over (glad to see they're still up by the way), and when I finally saw it at the Rialto (RIP), it still exceeded my own hype. Also being an ABC, I feel happy not needing to read subtitles for such a great film.

>>Dolls (2002)
I'm a sucker for films about undying love and maybe I saw this during a weak period in my life and it probably didn't help that I saw it with the girl I was trying to get back with, but no film has ever hit me harder emotionally. Love Takeshi Kitano too.

>>Three: "Going Home" (2002)
Another film about undying love with Chris Doyle as DP. I guess I don't know enough about Leon the singer to be annoyed at him. I do have the Director's Cut; not sure if it makes a huge difference.

>>Punch-Drunk Love (2002)
Yes I love love stories and although this one was between Adam Sandler and a not too attractive Emily Watson, it didn't get in the way. Paul Thomas Anderson directing, Jon Brion scoring, Luis Guzman and Philip Seymour Hoffman being serious and hilarious at the same time, Robert Smigel as a dentist, and I'm sure I'm missing other reasons to love this film. That's that.

Actually, it was sad hearing that Jeremy Blake, who did the colorful interludes, died. How he died sounds like a movie.

>>Last Life in the Universe (2003)
It became easier for me when I figured out chances are I'd like a film with Tadanobu Asano in it. Same can be said for Chris Doyle. This film had both of them. Miike cameo was cool too.

>>Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (2004)
Remember sitting right behind Scott Speedman at the ArcLight watching this. Was still trying to get back with my girl when I saw this. First film that made me want to read the script. (Too bad I haven't yet though; it's still next to my bed.)

>>The Taste of Tea (2004)
Well, Asano is in it. The director did the Kill Bill animation sequences. Just a feel good movie; beautiful film. Some very funny moments. Makes me want to give a copy to everyone I know.

>>Survive Style 5+ (2004)
Asano is in this too. Another great cast. Hilarious at times. The ending was awesome to me. Great looking film. Another film I've given to a lot of people.

>>The Squid and the Whale (2005)
Just liked everything about it. Added "Philistine" to my vocabulary. Since I don't really have much else to say I could probably replace this with another film.

>>Hotel Chevalier/The Darjeeling Limited (2007)
I was fully immersed with Hotel Chevalier before watching The Darjeeling Limited, and I'm not sure if that's the key to loving it. I watched Hotel Chevalier over and over wanting more, and The Darjeeling Limited gave me more than I could've asked for. The extra seconds of Natalie Portman would have been enough. Just the scenes with Bill Murray were satisfying. I couldn't get enough of Sweet Lime. Train dude was cool. It's like Adrien Brody, Owen Wilson, Jason Schwartzman, and Anjelica Huston were gravy and not the main reason to like the film. Also all the songs used were my first exposure to them.

>
>I assume this is ranked. Is this #1-10 from top to bottom?

No, just listed chronologically.

I just noticed that I own the soundtrack to all the films I listed above. Could music be that important?

I could probably replace "The Squid and the Whale" with "The Brown Bunny" or "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon." I own these two soundtracks as well.

  

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58. "Props, man"
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For these personal write-ups. I great deal of my favs are about love, too, in one way or another.

>>>Dolls (2002)
>Love Takeshi Kitano too.
I like this one and Kikujiro, too (stuff like Scene At The Sea). Kitano is far more versatile than he's given credit for.

>>>Punch-Drunk Love (2002)
>Actually, it was sad hearing that Jeremy Blake, who did the
>colorful interludes, died. How he died sounds like a movie.
His work was really, really vital to that movie.

>>>Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (2004)
This is definitely in the running for one of my top favs, but Science Of Sleep or 2 of his music vids are more than likely to beat this one out.

>>>The Taste of Tea (2004)
Great one. Another candidate for one of my top favs.

>>I assume this is ranked. Is this #1-10 from top to bottom?
>
>
>No, just listed chronologically.

Rank them if you don't want to see a movie that you don't like to be PTP's top movie of 2000 or something. Or rank 'em to see a movie you love get ranked high and get props. (This is if we have enough participants to make a poll even matter. LOL.)

  

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72. "RE: Props, man"
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1. In The Mood for Love (2000)
2. The Taste of Tea (2004)
3. Survive Style 5+ (2004)
4. Hotel Chevalier/The Darjeeling Limited (2007)
5. Three: "Going Home" (2002)
6. Punch-Drunk Love (2002)
7. Dolls (2002)
8. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (2004)
9. The Brown Bunny (2003)
10. Last Life in the Universe (2003)

  

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37. "top 10 movies based on my favorite performances"
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1. 25th hour
well, the whole trio - edward norton (--> fuck you montage), philip seymour hoffman and barry pepper (both --> ground zero and restaurant dialogues). word to terence blanchard for main theme.

2. training day
denzel washingtown rawness and realness is second to none. the best portrait of a crooked person ever. what can i say that haven't been said already, i can watch this movie over and over and not get bored with washington.

3. eternal sunshine of the spotless mind
the best role jim carrey's career. i really identified with his character, his shyness and loneliness. of course, word to kate winslet, michel gondry and jon brion for my favorite post 2000 soundtrack.

4. american gun
marcia gay harden, what an actress. i just can't believe she wasn't nominated for this one. did any other movie looked at school shootings from mother of the shooter's perspective? and the whole afterwards of the shooting? the scene where she has to send her other son to the same school again is just gut wrenching.

5. the departed
my favorite di caprio's performance. this movie was discussed here a zillion times, don't know what else could i add.

6. meet the parents
ben and bobby, great comedy duo.

7. cast away
tom hanks for his performance on a lonely island. this guy made us care for a fucking ball. wow.

8. about a boy
actually i still don't know whether hugh grant was so good or anyone would be with such a good material. i just remember laughing loud as hell during this flick.

9. the notebook
i probably gonna get shit for this one, but what the hell. i'm sucker for good love stories and main cast of rachel mcadams and ryan gosling made this movie really enjoyable and fun. my fav post-2000 romantic flick.

10. the assassination of richard nixon
sean penn. it amazes me how a guy can get from from this real, raw tough guy (mystic river) to an exact opposite of him, weak, scared, anti-social, in one year. great job.

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_____________________________
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38. "RE: Top 10 Movies Since 2000 (Part 2)"
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My top 10 (and i've no doubt missed a few - but off the top of my head).

Yi Yi

The Lives of Others

City of God

Half Nelson

After The Wedding

Control

Adaptation

The Constant Gardener

Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind

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96. "Ineligible/invalid list until you eventually"
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1) Rank the movies (no ties)
and
2) Write capsule reviews/comments for each movie

  

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40. "Longo's List"
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NOTE: There are several films I haven't seen/haven't seen in a while that I'd really like to before I'd consider this anything close to a finished list. These types of posts are exactly what PTP needs, because they provide in-depth discussion and recommendations for others.

Now, on to Longo's List:

Honorable mentions:
City of God
A Mighty Wind
Confessions of a Dangerous Mind
School of Rock
Ratatouille

10. X2: X-Men United. Not only was this the best live-action superhero film of all time, this is basically a flawless genre flick. The opening sequence is unforgettable, the performances are all terrific, and the special effects are really seamless.

9. Punch Drunk Love. This film isn't perfect-- it's a bit heady, with some blatant symbolism and at times the flow of the film feels a bit jerky. But the simplicity of the film is where its beauty lies. I think Sandler really pares it down, and the chemistry between Watson and him is something else. There are scenes in that film that I think really capture what it's like to be in love.

8. Monsters Inc. Insanely creative, funny from beginning to end, and as colorful as you'd want a film about an imaginary world to be. There's not a frame of this movie that isn't refreshingly clever, and it's an example of how animation should be used-- you're unlimited in your artform, you can put things on the screen that you can't do with live-action. Also, this has the best and most realistic depiction of a small child in a film that I can recall.

7. 25th Hour. This is to me the best Spike film since Malcolm X. He focused that post-September-11th anger, and takes all of his tangents without letting them distract from the characters or the story. Instead of Spike being a separate character in the film, he spices every character with a bit of Spike without removing what makes them unique. Some of the best character actors working today get a chance to really shine here.

6. Adaptation. When I first saw this film, the last third kind of bothered me. However, after a couple of viewings, it's grown on me, going from being perhaps a bit too self-referential to a joyous revelation in both genre writing and the desire to break free of those restrictions. Despite all the mockery, I think this film appreciates the difficulties of writing outside of genre outlines, but also the difficulties of making a film that remains creative while using the positives that genre writing provides. All of the actors are clearly having a blast, and the whole thing has a wonderful energy to it. I wouldn't say it's better than Being John Malkovich, but it's far better than it got credit for and begs for re-examination.

5. Memento. This film never ceases to surprise me, even now after I know the twist. It's just so layered, so wonderfully constructed. The suspense is incredible, and the acting stays very consistent which I find is usually a problem in films that jump around in time. It has humor, and the end of the movie packs a punch, again even after repeated viewings. The way it holds up even after you know the end of the movie is what impresses me most about this movie. Every thriller director who wants to make a film with a shocking twist ending should watch this as a lesson on how to do it.

4. The Incredibles. Pixar could have made up four of my Top 10 films easily. They have a joy to their writing and filmmaking that is unparalleled, and their animation is constantly astounding. This movie holds a special place in my heart because of my affection for superhero films. But that's not even the best part of the film. I saw the DVD of this shortly after watching Spielberg's War of the Worlds, which my chief complaint about was that I never believed that they were a family who were in legitimate danger and who cared about each other's wellbeing, supporting each other, not desiring to be separated unless completely necessary. Watching The Incredibles is like viewing the perfect model of a "family in peril" film. All the characters are totally believable, and the conclusion of the film is absolutely a riot. I'd love to see a Brad Bird-made sequel to this, because I'm sure it'd be just as good as the first.

3. Children of Men. The best live action film in 5 years, and one that I believe will stand the test of time with zero difficulty. The camerawork leaves me speechless, and when you combine it with the lack of answers the film forces down your throat, it becomes a very visceral experience, one that shoves you right next to Clive Owen for the whole film. There's not much I can say that hasn't been said. It's simply stunning. I remember watching the film totally still, and at one point I had to wipe my mouth, because my jaw was open and I was drooling. That's how sucked into the film I was.

2. Almost Famous. As the biggest Jerry Maguire fan on this board, I think this is Cameron Crowe's best film. Above Maguire, above Say Anything, above all of them. This is a classic, a perfect film about coming of age, about worship of celebrity, about pursuing your dreams. Every character is so vividly drawn that of course it's no surprise that Crowe writes this film largely based on his own childhood. Crowe is often criticized on his cutesy "Crowe Scenes", and how his films (especially Elizabethtown) can be seen as simply moving from one scene to the next. This one is seamless, where every scene is the next step in Patrick Fugit's growth. Every character grows from what happens in the film-- but some people don't choose to change. There are hysterical scenes, there are terribly sad scenes. It would be my favorite movie since 2000, if not for...

1. Murderball. I don't really know what to say. I tell people the general idea of the film to get them to see it, and they say "Oh, that sounds neat." But my descriptions can't capture how the movie will make you run the gamut of every emotion you've got within. The characters are better than 99% of the characters that can be invented and written into a fictional storyline. This is the type of story you can't make up. I'm a big fan of the "based on a true story" inspirational sports tale films, and this is the most inspirational of them all, and its done without a lick of manipulation or exploitation of these athletes' situations. I love documentary as an artform, and don't see enough of them, but this one stuck with me more than any other of the last several years.

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48. "mine."
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10)King Of Kong:Fistful of Quarters
- easily the best movie I saw this year.

9)Little Miss Sunshine
- shows how moving a film can be with a great cast and great script. sincere performances from top to bottom and it made me think of my family in an even greater appreciative light.

8)Pan's Labrynth
- lived up to every bit of hype I had read or heard. Affirmed my belief that "less is more" when it comes to CGI and I really appreciated the reliance on puppetry and makeup versus computers.

7)Sin City
- I saw it twice in theaters. One of those joints where you've got this rush cause you really haven't seen anything like this before. Put me onto Rodriguez too.

6)Gladiator
- for all of it's pretense, it is still undeniably THE epic in my mind.

5)City of God
- out of every movie on my list, this is probably the one that has the best chance of being eventually remembered in a "Godfather" pantheon years down the road. It touches every emotion. you laugh, you cringe, you're proud, you're ashamed all in about two hours.

4) The Departed
- the big event movie that pretty much did it all right. I was cynical about Dicaprio until this, and the fact that the movie runs close to three hours and there's really no lull shows that Scorcese has still got it.

3)Batman Begins
- I flip flop all the time on whether this or Spider-Man 2 are the best Superhero movies ever. Both nail their character to a tee. As great as this is, there's still so much promise to make it even grander. I don't think I've ever anticipated a movie as much as I do The Dark Knight.

2)Children of Men
- my brother and I had to drive 45 minutes away to see this on it's very first run. When it was done we honestly didn't talk for about a legit ten minutes. This movie made me want to make movies.

1)Spider-Man 2
- it took it's predecessor, fixed it,and then improved it. In retrospect they should have stopped after this one. Raimi nailed Spider-Man better than anyone could have expected him to.

* my top three really could be flipped in any order and I wouldn't feel any different.

  

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56. "I'm glad to see Crash hardly making ANY lists"
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that movie really was the worst "Best Picture" ever.

  

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59. "RE: I'm glad to see Crash hardly making ANY lists"
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1) The Pianist-Polanski and Brody were unstoppable.

2) 25th Hour-my favorite director and favorite actor. Fuck you montage. NY landscape post 911. Phillip Seymour mackin his student.

3) Pans Labyrinth- Original, beautiful, creative, one of my all-time favorites. The girl I saw this with cried.

4) The Lives of Others-great acting, informative, well written/directed by debut auteur.

5) The Proposition-Westerns will never die.

6) The Devil's Backbone-Guillermo del Toro's brother film to Pans. Highly underrated imo.

7) Almost Famous-Coming of age tale, good music, penny lane, writing, innocence. Can't hate on it.

8) Kill Bill-speaks for itself.

9) Requiem for a Dream-A movie you want to stop watching but can't. Felt very strange after this joint.

10)Snatch-pure entertainment, we throw this on all the time in the apt. when drinking

  

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61. "*lurks thru post lookin for movies to see*"
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the pianist, ten, yiyi, city of god/men..i still haven't seen adaptation, but i'm not really interested either...

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62. "Reviews coming soon, here's the list for now:"
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1. Half Nelson
2. Kill Bill
3. The Squid & The Whale
4. Punch-Drunk Love
5. Baadasssss!
6. The 40 Year-Old Virgin
7. Match Point
8. Shaun Of The Dead
9. The Fountain
10. Interstella 5555 / Dave Chappelle's Block Party (tie)

Honorable Mention (alphabetical order):

Bug
Children Of Men
City Of God
The Devil's Rejects
The Dreamers
Eternal Sunshine Of The Spotless Mind
Grindhouse
Oldboy
Talk To Me
Zodiac

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68. "No ties. Otherwise your list will be invalid and not used for the poll"
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If you care about that. (Given enough participation.) LOL.

>10. Interstella 5555 / Dave Chappelle's Block Party (tie)

  

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64. "RE: Top 10 Movies Since 2000 (Part 2)"
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My 10 in order:
Royal Tenanabaums
In The Mood For Love
25th Hour
Half Nelson
Lost in Translation
Eternal Sunshine
Donnie Darko
Morvern Callar
Memento
Beat My Heart Skipped

Others that def deserve consideration:
Brick
Dogville
City of God
Last Life in the Universe
The Proposition
The New World
Gone Baby Gone
Lives of Others
Hero
Brokeback Mountain
Before Sunset
Napoleon Dynamite
Sex and Lucia
What Time Is It There?

  

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69. "**Being like Angela Martin** (sort of) ------------>"
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Please post your mandatory capsules eventually. If the poll time ever comes, your list will be invalid and there's the risk of seeing results that you might not like.

Plus, I really don't want this post to literally be a list post. Put up some write-ups even if people don't respond. My intention was also to spark movie talk. Or at least give props to movies like the ones below (especially Morvern Callar).

>Morvern Callar
Nice to see that this has been mentioned another time or 2 in this post. Expressive textures.

>Beat My Heart Skipped
Nice. I liked this one.

  

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70. "Looks like someone took the slow train from Philly."
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71. "Write-ups"
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My 10 in order:
>Royal Tenanabaums - The perfect match of Wes Anderson's storytelling and signature presentation with real emotional content. Amazing cast used to their full talents. (Is there a better ensemble cast in a modern movie? I don't think so). This film resonates is relatable but still makes you laugh and is fun to watch. Near perfect.
>In The Mood For Love - I honestly can't think of a single negative thing about this film. Every inch of every frame is perfection. Visually as beautiful as any film ever made with an incredibly rich story of unrequited love.
>25th Hour - Spike finally freed from the burdens of his own writing's agenda turns out to be a masterpiece. This one may answer my own question about ensemble casts = Excellent. Air tight script, Rodrigo Prieto's photography is kept razor sharp and Spike is free to be the top notch director we all know he's capable of being.
>Half Nelson - Emotional gut shot and as raw a translation of life to film this side of Cassavettes. Gosling is amazing and Shareeka Epps and Anthony Mackie both help keep the film's quality/integrity very high. This one also comes down to the excellent decisions made by the writing/directing team in ducking cliche time and time again.
>Lost in Translation - Abstract simplicity done to perfection. Beautiful to look at and captures the feeling of the location as well as any other film out there. The amount of space allowed the actors make it possible for the small moments to magnify. Also has a high repeat viewing potential.
>Eternal Sunshine - Imagination taken to its fullest limits and yet with a story that is real and relatable. Getting this kind of performance out of Jim Carrey should win awards in itself.
>Donnie Darko - Captures a particular time period and time of life perfectly. One of the very few films with legit sci-fi content that also provides an emotional counter-balance.
>Morvern Callar - Visually stunning with a monster soundtrack and a clever script that is carried out effortlessly by Sam Morton. If this film had a different title many more people would have seen it.
>Memento - The concept alone is genius but then the way Nolan, Pearce and Co. carry it out completely justifies that clarification.
>Beat My Heart Skipped - Takes a truly shitty movie and somehow creates a modern masterpiece. Razor sharp visually, emotionally complex with an ability to shift gears from beautiful to brutal in back to back scenes.

  

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67. "Working list"
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1.)Memento - Fuck 2000. Fave of all time. Original & precise as hell.
2.)25th Hour - Barry Pepper. Nuff said. Loved the score as well.
3.)Sin City - Exemplifies bad assedness. Clive,Bruce,Rourke killed it.
4.)Batman Begins - Perfectly cast sans Holmes. Scarecrow was solid.
5.)Tigerland - Colin played the character so well you had 2 root 4 em
6.)City of God - 1st movie I saw that wasnt a doc but felt like one.
7.)Hero - Top notch cinematography, great action, & acting
8.)The Prestige - Perfect material for Nolan. Loved the mood.
9.)Anchorman - Easy math. Got the most the laughs.
10.)The Assanation of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford - Surreal

More later

  

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73. "I hate Joel Schumacker movies"
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>1.)Memento - Fuck 2000. Fave of all time. Original & precise
>as hell.
>2.)25th Hour - Barry Pepper. Nuff said. Loved the score as
>well.
>3.)Sin City - Exemplifies bad assedness. Clive,Bruce,Rourke
>killed it.
>4.)Batman Begins - Perfectly cast sans Holmes. Scarecrow was
>solid.
>5.)Tigerland - Colin played the character so well you had 2
>root 4 em
>6.)City of God - 1st movie I saw that wasnt a doc but felt
>like one.
>7.)Hero - Top notch cinematography, great action, & acting
>8.)The Prestige - Perfect material for Nolan. Loved the mood.
>
>9.)Anchorman - Easy math. Got the most the laughs.
>10.)The Assanation of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford -
>Surreal
>
>More later

  

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75. "His track recored is iffy at best but I love Tigerland & Lost Boys"
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74. "RE: Working list"
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I agree, Barry Pepper was the man in 25th Hour.

Favorite quote: Do you know you're wearing a striped shirt with a striped tie?
Uh, yeah, I do it for the ladies.
Well do the ladies ever tell you that you look like a fucking optical illusion?

  

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76. "RE: Working list"
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>I agree, Barry Pepper was the man in 25th Hour.
>
>Favorite quote: Do you know you're wearing a striped shirt
>with a striped tie?
>Uh, yeah, I do it for the ladies.
>Well do the ladies ever tell you that you look like a fucking
>optical illusion?

His opening scene was fierce & he never let up after that either. Talk about brash. Man alive he was putting it down to anybody & everybody throughout the whole flick. Loved it.

  

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77. "Update. I gotta replace Anchorman with Primer"
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Both Primer & Donnie Darko equally confused the shit outta me with the time travel theme but with Primer I have not as of yet & I'm not sure I ever will get tired of trying to figure it all out.

I put Carruth right up there w/ Nolan as far impressive low budget debuts from a 1st time director. Believe it or not I'd probably have to give him the edge as well as I think I like Primer even more than Following. Primer, Minority Report, & A Scanner Darkly are probably the 3 sci fi flicks I enjoyed most since 2000. I'm not sure if those other two will crack my top 10 tho alto Minority Report did make the earlier list.

  

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82. "one recommendation"
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>6.)City of God - 1st movie I saw that wasnt a doc but felt
>like one.

Check out Battle of Algiers.

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84. "thanks"
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>>6.)City of God - 1st movie I saw that wasnt a doc but felt
>>like one.
>
>Check out Battle of Algiers.

Sounds pretty intense. From what I've read about it I'd have to be in the right type of mood to see this but I'll certainly put it on my list.

  

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85. "it is intense"
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But not any more so than City of God.

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78. "I suck balls."
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Big hairy balls.

  

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89. "y'know i never had any desire to be a mod"
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^^until now lol

  

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79. "Sometimes the anchor seems like a bad thing."
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It's like no one notices the post if it's anchored...

  

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80. "People are saying some bold stuff, too. (Which I like, BTW)"
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Stuff that usually gets replies. I was hoping for some fervor (especially in the replies). Haha.

I'm not one to talk 'cause I'm not doing my part in starting discussion, but there's just too much of me in this post right now. (Too busy being like Angela Martin. Maybe I should take some Schrute measures. I already have, though.)

Again, I just hope it's b/c of the early timing and rather open-dated nature of this post.

Hopefully when this is de-anchored, people still remember this post in late December through February. I know I'll up this son of a bitch.

Oh, When The Levees Broke, people. Don't forget about that one!

  

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81. "i dont know how i forgot it"
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>Oh, When The Levees Broke, people. Don't forget about that
>one!

actually i do know how. Being on TV, and not being in the theaters or on DVD (when i saw it) makes me forget it was a movie!

good catch.

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83. " two top tens"
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my favorites

1.Life Aquatic
2.High Fidelity
3.Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
4.City of God
5.Royal Tennenbaums
6.The Hours
7.Half Nelson
8.Ghost World
9.Lost in Translation
10.Adaptation

Documentaries

1.Cocaine Cowboys
2.Murderball
3.Inconvienent Truth
4.Supersize Me
5.Why We Fight
6.Wal-Mart:the High Cost of low price
7.The Corporation
8.Bukowski:Born Into This
9.Street Fight
10.Letter to the President

honorable mention: Home,Just For Kicks, Capturing the Friedmans,Favela Rising,Dark Days, F**k,The Education of Shelby Knox,
No End In Sight, Aristocrats





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97. "Invalid/ineligible list until you write those"
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capsule reviews/comments.

  

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113. "capsules included"
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my favorites

1.Life Aquatic- not better than Rushmore, but Murray kills me

2.High Fidelity- great cast, better than the book, Tim Robbins as Ian in my favorite humorous sex scene.

3.Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind- Carrey showed he can act outside of his comfort zone. Winslet was wonderful.

4.City of God- this one stuck with me weeks after seeing it. I can't say that about many films.

5.Royal Tennenbaums- Funnier than Life Aquatic but not the better Wes flick. Glover and Hackman at their best.

6.The Hours- I was surprised how much I enjoyed this. Very moving for anyone who knows someone who has battled with depression.

7.Half Nelson- I knew Gosling could act when I saw him in the Believer, but he was awesome in a tough role to play convincingly.
part of him reminded me of a few of my old teachers.

8.Ghost World- I love the quirky nature of this flick. Buscemi,Malone and Scarlett all turn in great performances. plus the convience store customer's hilarity "I'm hungry enough to chew the crotch out of a rag doll"

9.Lost in Translation- Murray deadpan at its best. great non formulaic rom-com and beautiful opening/closing scenes.

10.No Country for Old Men- bardiem and TLJ + Cohen Bros. = masterpiece


Documentaries

1.Cocaine Cowboys- best drug movie ever

2.Murderball- my bro met Mark Zupan and said he was a great guy. story is phenomenal.

3.Inconvienent Truth- Gore spits truth on global warming, pictures and footage is truly scary

4.Supersize Me- eaten at McDonalds twice since seeing it. let's just say it left an impression

5.Why We Fight- exposes how powerful the military industrial complex had become.

6.The Devil and Daniel Johnston- gripping heart-felt story about a multi-talented man with bi-polar.

7.The King of Kong- great look into what people go though to obtain the highest level of geekdom. I wanted to choke billy mitchell out with one of his patriotic ties and burn his eyes with his hot sauce.

8.Bukowski:Born Into This- made we want to become more familiar with his writings. sobering portrait of a drunk with demons.

9.Street Fight- best political doc I have seen. shows the underbelly of local politics

10.No End In Sight- best doc this year

honorable mention: Wal-Mart:the High Cost of Low Price,Home,Just For Kicks, Capturing the Friedmans,Favela Rising,Dark Days, F**k,The Education of Shelby Knox,
No End In Sight, Aristocrats





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86. "Preliminary list only*"
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*sorry, but this is the way it has to be done for now. I haven't been in much of a mood lately to wax poetic about these films, but I still wanted to weigh in, then come back at a later time (try June 08) and pontificate some. So, anyway, here's my 10, theatrical releases only (and, as always, subject to change):

10. Dave Chappelle's Block Party

9. Kill Bill, Volume 2

8. Batman Begins

7. Bowling For Columbine

6. Ratatouille

5. About A Boy

4. adaptation.

3. Pan's Labyrinth

2. City of God

1. Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King



(also note: I'm giving serious consideration to adding No Country for Old Men to this list)
______________________________________________________________________
Went to the shelf
and dusted off the A.K.

  

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115. "For some reason I thought we agreed on film..."
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I was obviously mistaken.

>10. Dave Chappelle's Block Party
>
>9. Kill Bill, Volume 2
>
>8. Batman Begins
>
>7. Bowling For Columbine
>
>6. Ratatouille
>
>5. About A Boy
>
>4. adaptation.
>
>3. Pan's Labyrinth
>
>2. City of God
>
>1. Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King

  

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87. "Stats from UC's original 2005 post (Most popular movies)"
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2 sets of stats:
a) total # of votes
b) total # of points (1st ranked = 10 points....10th ranked = 1 point)


A. Overall Top 10 (In terms of # of mentions):

1st place -
City Of God
(15 "votes")


2nd place (tied) -
Eternal Sunshine Of The Spotless Mind;
Kill Bill
(8 votes)


4th place -
25th Hour
(7 votes)


5th place (tied) -
In The Mood For Love;
The Pianist
(6 votes)


7th place (tied) -
Ghost World;
Memento;
Mulholland Drive
Requiem For A Dream
(5 votes)

11th place -
The Royal Tenenabaums
(5 votes)

12th place (tied) -
Batman Begins
High Fidelity
I Heart Huckabees
The Incredibles
Lost in Translation
Oldboy
Traffic
(4 votes)

19th place -
Before Sunset
(3 votes)

20th place-
Bus 174
(3 votes)

**77 movies w/ 1 vote**



B. Overall Top 10 (In terms of points)*
* = Just 2 people gave clear indication that their top 10 was "ranked." Another person just ranked their #1 while 2-10 were in no order. So, this set of stats is based on just 3 people.

1st place -
Mulholland Drive
(18 points)

2nd place -
City Of God
(13 points)

3rd place (tied) -
Traffic
Last Life In The Universe
(10 points)

5th place -
I Heart Huckabees
(9 points)




  

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90. "Werckmeister Harmonies needs a multiplier"
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you know it's true

  

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88. "My votes..."
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1. Gladiator
2. X-Men 2
3. LOTR trilogy (as one)
4. Saw
5. The Descent
6. Finding Nemo
7. Kill Bill Vol. 1
8. Bad Santa
9. Batman Begins
10. The Count of Monte Cristo

Honorable mentions: V For Vendetta, Superbad, 300, The Prestige, Blow, and others...

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98. "Invalid/ineligible list until you post those capsule reviews/comments"
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99. "Oh right..."
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1. Gladiator

One of the few movies that still give me a chill when I watch it. Crowe is fantastic, great cast, great story, a genuine tragedy.

2. X-Men 2

This is the best comic book movie of all time, and exactly what the X-Men should be. When Wolverine goes berserk in the kitchen still makes me giggle like a school girl.

3. LOTR trilogy (as one)

Can I say anything that hasn't been said already about these? Probably not.

4. Saw

Commonly criticized on this site and around, however this movie is so great because its so damn clever and the ending was the last movie that truly knocked me from my seat. Call me stupid, this thing is the real deal.

5. The Descent

I'm always telling people that this is a fantastic scary movie and not just a gore fest, but no one seems to buy it. Sure, its gory as hell, but it is also genuinely terrifying in the same vein as Alien and Jaws.

6. Finding Nemo

Up until this point, Pixar never seemed to miss a beat. The story and characters are gripping, and Ellen actually does a great job of adding comic relief. How could you not like this movie?

7. Kill Bill Vol. 1

Superbly filmed, this movie is the new age kung fu flick at its best. It has some killer fight scenes and a simple but fun plot.

8. Bad Santa

Dark comedy at its finest. Billy Bob Thornton does himself a favor with this one, which also features a great cast and great writing.

9. Batman Begins

Re imagined Batman for the new age, and kicked the old movies out of the way (not that the first 2 were bad, but still).

10. The Count of Monte Cristo

Great story that still rings as a classic in this retelling. Guy Pearce is one of my most hated characters in movie history b/c of this part.

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91. "RE: Top 10 Movies Since 2000 (Part 2)"
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8 years is a lot of time and there is more than 10 but here are mine with a few others


1. Amores Perros
-Masterfully depicted desperate individuals from Mexican slums and bourgeois society, dysfunctionaly negotiating a history of violence and dreams deferred. Great camera work, plot development and resolution. Inarritu is still painfully trying to regain this perfection in spiritual and political story telling.
2. Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon
-Cinematic poetry: Mystical fight scenes and youth rebellion beautifully mask the many love stories that dissolve the typical idea of the one all conquering love narrative.
3. City of God
-Grimey and funky as James Brown circa 68, nuff said.
4. The Departed
-Dicaprio’s finest moment since Basketball Diaries and possibly the illest Gangster shit of all time. Jack scared you, you hated Damon and wanted to cry or yell out madness when Dicaprio got murked. Straight no chaser classic.
5. Requiem for a Dream
-We thought Scareface explored the desire for American Dreams gone array, fuck that… ‘Face is a stroll in the beach with your girl compared to heroin addiction, prostitution, and the violence of the medical and prison industrial complexes’. From innovative editing, to collage story telling and raw as dry pussy realism, Requiem is the only movie one should watch every two to five years for fear of permanent emotional damage.
6. Hero
-See “Crouching Tiger” except replace the idea of youth rebellion and restrained love, with notions of vengeance and changing the world without taking power.
7. ESOTSM
-If you’re alive and been in a long term relationship only to break up (maybe make up) this movie speaks volumes to you. Gondry’s genius is unparalleled from the cinematography, set/locations, to the twist of science fiction with the memory deletion center, to the visual effects. Kate and Carey held it down on the acting end seriously.
8. Bamboozled
-Spikes last great film and possible best. While most forget it or hate it because it’s ideas flew past their heads, this is powerful film making exploring contemporary realities of popular commodities, racism, cultural degeneration, and Shakespearean drama that fucks the mind to a degree only Requiem achieved. Waynes, Rapaport, Mos Def and Tommy Davison brought their A games to this film.
9. Pan’s Labyrinth
-A film that makes all rebels smile as for once the rebel force is shown in victory and not as a pack of raving lunatics. Majestically matching the young protagonist imagination with the movement of the rebel forces against Franco’s fascist armies, war and resistance is no fairytale.
10. Royal Tenenbaums
-A visual orgy with subtle wit that has you catching one-liners 10 times into the film. Wes Anderson’s best moment is still underappreciated and shows one can love Kubrick’s obsession for light, camera work, art direction and set/color and design, without resorting to Kubrick’s fascination with the psychological underpinnings of humanity and stylized violence.
11. V for Vendetta
12. Kill Bill, Vol. I
13. The Pianist
14. Amelie
15. Planet Terror
16. I Heart Huckabees
17. Monster’s Ball
18. Maria Full of Grace
19. Matrix Reloaded
20. Running Scared
21. Raising Victor Vargas
22. Volver
23. Bad Education
24. Punch Drunk Love
25. Science of Sleep

*Honorable Mention:
The Cell, Domino, Momento, Napoleon Dynamite, Nacho Libre, Little Miss Sunshine, The Incredibles, North Country, 21 Grams, Lord of the Rings Trilogy, Notes on a Scandal, Y Tu Mama Tambien, EL Crimen De Padre Amaro, Monster, Man on Fire, Star Wars prequels, Blade Series, Quincenera

*Most over-hyped bad or decent films:
1. Traffic
2. Training Day
3. The Notebook
4. Muholland Drive
5. Crash

  

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92. "For those that have posted lists: Question. (c) Dwight Schrute"
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Are your top 10 movies: a) the 10 greatest or b) your 10 favorites or c) something similar/different?

I do realize that if you were trying to be objective (a pureness of which is impossible), your favoritism or preferences will still come out in choosing this over that. The way I'm thinking right now, trying to do "A" includes a varying mix of "A" & "B."

Whereas something of "B" is really figuring what you like most (if that entails rewatchability, excitement, or personal aesthetic values factors) w/o regards to something like, "is this one of the ultimate works in movie history?"

The reason why I'm asking is, if we indeed have enough entries to make a poll worthwile, do you guys have an issue w/ the poll being based on data created by different criteria? Just a thought.

On a personal note, holy fuck is this shit hard. Much respect to those who posted ranked lists. I'm so stuck.

  

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93. "B"
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Can't do "A": haven't seen every film since 2000, wasn't a cinema major, and don't review movies for a living.

  

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94. "RE: B"
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>Can't do "A": haven't seen every film since 2000, wasn't a
>cinema major, and don't review movies for a living.

I don't think one needs those qualifications in order to do something like "A." Well, maybe seeing at least, say, 11-15 movies since 2000 helps, but then ranking 10 in order of greatness still means something even if one has only seen 10 total movies since 2000.

  

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105. "B as well. But a few of them qualify for A"
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95. "To the Kill Bill voters"
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Specify what you mean by just "Kill Bill":

1) Volumes 1 & 2 together? or...

2) Volume 1?

  

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100. "No Country For Old Men: Any revisions?"
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Or are you guys also waiting for There Will Be Blood and other '07 movies to come your way?

  

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102. "id have to see No Country again"
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>Or are you guys also waiting for There Will Be Blood and
>other '07 movies to come your way?

i think it might crack the top 10. i mean, it was far and away the best movie this year..but...

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104. "I'm ready to replace City of God with There Will be Blood"
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107. "^^^ ON CRACK"
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109. "^^^on heroin thinking City of God is THAT good"
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112. "^^^on point"
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101. "im shocked..."
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at the lack of lost in translation discussion. easily one of the best movies of the decade.

bill murray's performance is wonderful, as is his co-star scarlett's.

coppola produced an excellent script, and directed it beautifully. the cinematography... and just the overall mood it establishes and maintains throughout the film. its beautiful.

  

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103. "No Country would def make my list"
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Diving Bell, Lives of Others and Gone Baby Gone would be candidates but I don't think they'd crack the Top 10.

  

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106. "Are we still doing this?"
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Here are my ten.

10.Punch-Drunk Love
A terrifically pro-romance movie that also captures how relationships are seldom built on perfect unions nor always evolve in a straight-forward manner. However, while Paul Thomas Anderson's story and Adam Sandler's Barry Egan do go to delightfully ridiculous extremes to be able to finally bare their souls, with pudding and phone sex and all, it's these great lengths that arrive at a conclusion that's as satisfying and simply put as anything: all you need is love. This sometimes quirky, sometimes old-fashioned, sometimes disturbing, finally hopeful and strongly colorful film is an ode to the power of love and proof of the power of cinema to make the hard-bitten turn believer.

09.United 93
Politicians, who have continually exploited the day as though some cheap slogan, and the media, who has over-exposed the raw footage of the Twin Towers' collapse, have shamefully manipulated the events on and surrounding September 11th to the point where for many Americans, six years now removed, that fateful New York morning has lost its significance. What Paul Greengrass, alongside a thankless ensemble of mostly unknown or first-time actors, does is to restore meaning to 9/11, as painful and as devastating, but also as truly important, as that might be. United 93 is shot with the look of a documentary, the feel of a well-paced thriller, and all the dignity those who perished as a result of the attacks rightly deserve.

08.The Man Who Wasn't There
In the hands of the Coen Brothers, Ed Crane is fashioned as a man of nothing, so forgettable you'd lose his name the second after he gave it out, the post-WWII Bartleby. By placing such a listless character at the crux of a story centered around a salacious criminal scheme and bordered by the supernatural, the Coens craft their most original film in years. Though they do not turn away from either their pulp-tendencies or their use of bizarre humor to undercut moments of tension, because their story is ultimately grounded in sincerity, in a real sense of sadness and despair, their work has been elevated to the level of a fascinating character study. Billy Bob Thorton's hushed performance also does a great deal to convey Crane's languid state of being.

07.Yi Yi
Edward Yang's Yi Yi asks the question how do we know we make the right choices when we see only from our eyes, from only in front of us, and subsequently then only half of the truth? This query, earnestly posed by a precocious young boy, echoes throughout the entire film and is thematically most evident in the way Yang films each scene: often from a distance, even seemingly the back of action, still, as though curiously observing. He wants us to take in the long and full picture in a way his characters cannot always. In doing so, each shot potentially becomes its own story; from a parting glance to an uncertain exchange, Yang communicates understanding and misunderstanding beautifully. The classical-composition of the film too produces an unpretentious effect key for such a gracious portrayal of life and all the choices it has to offer.

06.Half Nelson
While Ryan Gosling's performance, and even first-timer Shareeka Epp's to some extent, hogged most of the coverage of Half Nelson--and yes, it is a incredibly complex but organic turn by the Canadian actor--director Ryan Fleck too accomplishes a difficult task by successfully rooting his story and characters in often ambiguous and contradictory territory, and not just archetypal or tidily-resolved scenarios. It's inspiring, gutsy storytelling, where a drug addict is at once a brave school teacher, a friendless asshole, a protector, and an enabler. No one here is easily defined, nor should they be. And it's because Half Nelson has such an interest in telling a three-dimensional story that it can feel altogether harrowing, heartbreaking, frustrated, uncomfortable, and even funny, but always truthful.

05.Good Night, and Good Luck.
Shot in a kind of black-and-white photography that lends itself more to story than strictly style, George Clooney's second directorial work brims with the great confidence usually found in Clooney's public persona. Though it covers several considerably heavy topics (the power of television, the responsibility of the media, and the need to protect the freedom of expression), Good Night, and Good Luck knows itself with a manner of precision, smarts, and fearlessness fitting its lead subject, Edward R. Murrow. By gathering arguably the best cast of currently-working character actors and matching them with a script as witty as it is poignant and as biting as it is graceful, Clooney achieves a certain timeless quality, that's both a history lesson and a modern-day parable, while never feeling tedious nor heavy-handed.

04.Shaun of the Dead
This endlessly creative and loving spoof of horror movies pours in carnage when it needs to, slapstick when appropriate, satire all over, and a surprising amount of character and story development. Creators Edgar Wright and Simon Pegg are ever-knowledgeable about the often-ludicrous films they're sending up, but they also realize a large amount of humor and emotional resonance can be forged by grounding the most outlandish of plots in the middle of the everyday, particularly here with dating relationships and work. Moreover, as gore and more subtle visual gags share the screen equally as well, and as heavy-stylistic flair is balanced with pure storytelling, Shaun of the Dead serves up a unique and exceptionally well-rounded piece of entertainment.

03.Raising Victor Vargas
The principle cast of Raising Victor Vargas and its director, Peter Sollett, first began their working relationship on a 2000 short film, Five Feet High and Rising. The rapport that sprang up as a result of this early collaboration is noticeable in Vargas not only in the chemistry shared between the leads but especially by how natural and unforced actor and director alike perform together. By allowing the real-life personalities of these actors to shape the script, by promoting improvisation, and then by keeping the camera free and unrestrained, Sollett creates a work of great authenticity. Moreover, his characters have so accurately realized that fine balance between childhood and adulthood: hormones-raging, awkward all over, brimming maturity cut by sudden self-doubt. They have trouble trusting each other and themselves, and it's how these moments are captured in a simple, seemingly spontaneous manner that highlights late adolescence in a way most movies are either afraid or unable to.

02.City of God
Brazil in the 1970's, with its beautiful bikini-clad women and streets soaring to a soulful samba sound, is at first an irresistible setting. Likewise, Fernando Meirelles's frenetic gangster tale has the look of a movie wonderfully exploding at your senses. Split-screens, quick-edits, sudden freeze frames, and a bursting surreal color catch the eye, but the movie's intense and unrelenting violence also gives way to a startling depiction of those favela streets shaped like so many tireless mazes. Here frightened young boys, trapped as they are, have resorted to a kind of cruelty typically found only in the most vile of Shakespearean kings. Again, their brutality is contrasted by a sad naiveté, just as the seductiveness and savageness of Rio goes hand-in-hand. Non-actors and a narrator who is both apart from the gangland lifestyle and also its best hope are the perfect choices to tell this multi-faceted true story.

01.Zodiac
Using visual effects to recreate period locations that may now be unrecognizable or to otherwise control the look of his scenes to the smallest detail, David Fincher's Zodiac finds the director employing stylistic craftiness to enhance the story on screen and then to also illuminate the obsessive nature of the material. His meticulousness thankfully finds its match in an exhausting true crime investigation, one that covered whole careers and is realistically rendered by a handful of actors giving largely difficult but defining performances. The film's daring narrative, first mapped out in a thoroughly-researched script by James Vanderbilt, flaunts conventions in an ultimate sign of respect to all the investigators involved. Chilling, slyly humorous, and ever-engaging, Zodiac's dedicated vision is a painstakingly well-organized revelation for its director and sure evidence that storytelling is forever king.


my '05 list.

25th Hour (2002)
City of God (2002)
George Washington (2000)
In the Mood for Love (2000)
Lost in Translation (2003)
Raising Victor Vargas (2002)
Road to Perdition (2002)
The Royal Tenenbaums (2001)
Yi Yi (2000)
You Can Count on Me (2000)

Reason for differences:

1)Don't take a 20 year-old's opinion on artistic endeavors too seriously, I guess. (What about a 22 year-old?) Anyway, my tastes haven't changed drastically, it's just that I've more finely tuned for myself what makes a good movie.

2)In the Mood for Love and George Washington I haven't watched in years. They've faded a little bit from my memory, and that lack of a long-standing interest says something to me.

3)The Royal Tenenbaums fell in the 11-15 range.

3b)Lost in Translation and You Can Count on Me probably would fall in the 15-25 range.

4)Upon re-seeing Road to Perdition and 25th Hour, while there are many strong qualities that I still find in 'em, and I do still like them, they feel more flawed now, e.g., the third act in Perdition and the overall heavy-handedness of Lee's picture.

5)Of the new inclusions to my list, five of them I had not seen at all two years ago (or had just seen them, as with Good Night, I believe).

6)So with the three left standing, the five new additions, that leaves Punch-Drunk Love and The Man Who Wasn't There. I saw the latter in the theaters when it first came out. I was 16 and in over my head. Thankfully, I revisited it some months back and was amazed. As for PDL, I'm actually surprised it wasn't on my first list. Again, it went over my head the first time through, 17 then, but a year or so later I got the DVD, strapped on some headphones and have been a fan ever since.

  

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108. "*golf claps*"
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these capsules sound like something i'd read in a magazine...good ones, though, even if i didnt agree with all your choices.

>Here are my ten.
>
>10.Punch-Drunk Love
>A terrifically pro-romance movie that also captures how
>relationships are seldom built on perfect unions nor always
>evolve in a straight-forward manner. However, while Paul
>Thomas Anderson's story and Adam Sandler's Barry Egan do go to
>delightfully ridiculous extremes to be able to finally bare
>their souls, with pudding and phone sex and all, it's these
>great lengths that arrive at a conclusion that's as satisfying
>and simply put as anything: all you need is love. This
>sometimes quirky, sometimes old-fashioned, sometimes
>disturbing, finally hopeful and strongly colorful film is an
>ode to the power of love and proof of the power of cinema to
>make the hard-bitten turn believer.
>
>09.United 93
>Politicians, who have continually exploited the day as though
>some cheap slogan, and the media, who has over-exposed the raw
>footage of the Twin Towers' collapse, have shamefully
>manipulated the events on and surrounding September 11th to
>the point where for many Americans, six years now removed,
>that fateful New York morning has lost its significance. What
>Paul Greengrass, alongside a thankless ensemble of mostly
>unknown or first-time actors, does is to restore meaning to
>9/11, as painful and as devastating, but also as truly
>important, as that might be. United 93 is shot with the look
>of a documentary, the feel of a well-paced thriller, and all
>the dignity those who perished as a result of the attacks
>rightly deserve.
>
>08.The Man Who Wasn't There
>In the hands of the Coen Brothers, Ed Crane is fashioned as a
>man of nothing, so forgettable you'd lose his name the second
>after he gave it out, the post-WWII Bartleby. By placing such
>a listless character at the crux of a story centered around a
>salacious criminal scheme and bordered by the supernatural,
>the Coens craft their most original film in years. Though
>they do not turn away from either their pulp-tendencies or
>their use of bizarre humor to undercut moments of tension,
>because their story is ultimately grounded in sincerity, in a
>real sense of sadness and despair, their work has been
>elevated to the level of a fascinating character study. Billy
>Bob Thorton's hushed performance also does a great deal to
>convey Crane's languid state of being.
>
>07.Yi Yi
>Edward Yang's Yi Yi asks the question how do we know we make
>the right choices when we see only from our eyes, from only in
>front of us, and subsequently then only half of the truth?
>This query, earnestly posed by a precocious young boy, echoes
>throughout the entire film and is thematically most evident in
>the way Yang films each scene: often from a distance, even
>seemingly the back of action, still, as though curiously
>observing. He wants us to take in the long and full picture
>in a way his characters cannot always. In doing so, each shot
>potentially becomes its own story; from a parting glance to an
>uncertain exchange, Yang communicates understanding and
>misunderstanding beautifully. The classical-composition of
>the film too produces an unpretentious effect key for such a
>gracious portrayal of life and all the choices it has to
>offer.
>
>06.Half Nelson
>While Ryan Gosling's performance, and even first-timer
>Shareeka Epp's to some extent, hogged most of the coverage of
>Half Nelson--and yes, it is a incredibly complex but organic
>turn by the Canadian actor--director Ryan Fleck too
>accomplishes a difficult task by successfully rooting his
>story and characters in often ambiguous and contradictory
>territory, and not just archetypal or tidily-resolved
>scenarios. It's inspiring, gutsy storytelling, where a drug
>addict is at once a brave school teacher, a friendless
>asshole, a protector, and an enabler. No one here is easily
>defined, nor should they be. And it's because Half Nelson has
>such an interest in telling a three-dimensional story that it
>can feel altogether harrowing, heartbreaking, frustrated,
>uncomfortable, and even funny, but always truthful.
>
>05.Good Night, and Good Luck.
>Shot in a kind of black-and-white photography that lends
>itself more to story than strictly style, George Clooney's
>second directorial work brims with the great confidence
>usually found in Clooney's public persona. Though it covers
>several considerably heavy topics (the power of television,
>the responsibility of the media, and the need to protect the
>freedom of expression), Good Night, and Good Luck knows itself
>with a manner of precision, smarts, and fearlessness fitting
>its lead subject, Edward R. Murrow. By gathering arguably the
>best cast of currently-working character actors and matching
>them with a script as witty as it is poignant and as biting as
>it is graceful, Clooney achieves a certain timeless quality,
>that's both a history lesson and a modern-day parable, while
>never feeling tedious nor heavy-handed.
>
>04.Shaun of the Dead
>This endlessly creative and loving spoof of horror movies
>pours in carnage when it needs to, slapstick when appropriate,
>satire all over, and a surprising amount of character and
>story development. Creators Edgar Wright and Simon Pegg are
>ever-knowledgeable about the often-ludicrous films they're
>sending up, but they also realize a large amount of humor and
>emotional resonance can be forged by grounding the most
>outlandish of plots in the middle of the everyday,
>particularly here with dating relationships and work.
>Moreover, as gore and more subtle visual gags share the screen
>equally as well, and as heavy-stylistic flair is balanced with
>pure storytelling, Shaun of the Dead serves up a unique and
>exceptionally well-rounded piece of entertainment.
>
>03.Raising Victor Vargas
>The principle cast of Raising Victor Vargas and its director,
>Peter Sollett, first began their working relationship on a
>2000 short film, Five Feet High and Rising. The rapport that
>sprang up as a result of this early collaboration is
>noticeable in Vargas not only in the chemistry shared between
>the leads but especially by how natural and unforced actor and
>director alike perform together. By allowing the real-life
>personalities of these actors to shape the script, by
>promoting improvisation, and then by keeping the camera free
>and unrestrained, Sollett creates a work of great
>authenticity. Moreover, his characters have so accurately
>realized that fine balance between childhood and adulthood:
>hormones-raging, awkward all over, brimming maturity cut by
>sudden self-doubt. They have trouble trusting each other and
>themselves, and it's how these moments are captured in a
>simple, seemingly spontaneous manner that highlights late
>adolescence in a way most movies are either afraid or unable
>to.
>
>02.City of God
>Brazil in the 1970's, with its beautiful bikini-clad women and
>streets soaring to a soulful samba sound, is at first an
>irresistible setting. Likewise, Fernando Meirelles's frenetic
>gangster tale has the look of a movie wonderfully exploding at
>your senses. Split-screens, quick-edits, sudden freeze
>frames, and a bursting surreal color catch the eye, but the
>movie's intense and unrelenting violence also gives way to a
>startling depiction of those favela streets shaped like so
>many tireless mazes. Here frightened young boys, trapped as
>they are, have resorted to a kind of cruelty typically found
>only in the most vile of Shakespearean kings. Again, their
>brutality is contrasted by a sad naiveté, just as the
>seductiveness and savageness of Rio goes hand-in-hand.
>Non-actors and a narrator who is both apart from the gangland
>lifestyle and also its best hope are the perfect choices to
>tell this multi-faceted true story.
>
>01.Zodiac
>Using visual effects to recreate period locations that may now
>be unrecognizable or to otherwise control the look of his
>scenes to the smallest detail, David Fincher's Zodiac finds
>the director employing stylistic craftiness to enhance the
>story on screen and then to also illuminate the obsessive
>nature of the material. His meticulousness thankfully finds
>its match in an exhausting true crime investigation, one that
>covered whole careers and is realistically rendered by a
>handful of actors giving largely difficult but defining
>performances. The film's daring narrative, first mapped out
>in a thoroughly-researched script by James Vanderbilt, flaunts
>conventions in an ultimate sign of respect to all the
>investigators involved. Chilling, slyly humorous, and
>ever-engaging, Zodiac's dedicated vision is a painstakingly
>well-organized revelation for its director and sure evidence
>that storytelling is forever king.
>
>
>my '05 list.
>
>25th Hour (2002)
>City of God (2002)
>George Washington (2000)
>In the Mood for Love (2000)
>Lost in Translation (2003)
>Raising Victor Vargas (2002)
>Road to Perdition (2002)
>The Royal Tenenbaums (2001)
>Yi Yi (2000)
>You Can Count on Me (2000)
>
>Reason for differences:
>
>1)Don't take a 20 year-old's opinion on artistic endeavors too
>seriously, I guess. (What about a 22 year-old?) Anyway, my
>tastes haven't changed drastically, it's just that I've more
>finely tuned for myself what makes a good movie.
>
>2)In the Mood for Love and George Washington I haven't watched
>in years. They've faded a little bit from my memory, and that
>lack of a long-standing interest says something to me.
>
>3)The Royal Tenenbaums fell in the 11-15 range.
>
>3b)Lost in Translation and You Can Count on Me probably would
>fall in the 15-25 range.
>
>4)Upon re-seeing Road to Perdition and 25th Hour, while there
>are many strong qualities that I still find in 'em, and I do
>still like them, they feel more flawed now, e.g., the third
>act in Perdition and the overall heavy-handedness of Lee's
>picture.
>
>5)Of the new inclusions to my list, five of them I had not
>seen at all two years ago (or had just seen them, as with Good
>Night, I believe).
>
>6)So with the three left standing, the five new additions,
>that leaves Punch-Drunk Love and The Man Who Wasn't There. I
>saw the latter in the theaters when it first came out. I was
>16 and in over my head. Thankfully, I revisited it some
>months back and was amazed. As for PDL, I'm actually
>surprised it wasn't on my first list. Again, it went over my
>head the first time through, 17 then, but a year or so later I
>got the DVD, strapped on some headphones and have been a fan
>ever since.

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take the plunge. That wasn't hard was it? Nah, I think it's hard.

Excellent capsules.

>10.Punch-Drunk Love

This would probably be my highest ranked American fictional narrative if it weren't for NCFOM, Zodiac, AOJJ, and TWBB. It's a shame, too, 'cause PDL is such an impressive work. I'll rewatch PDL and AOJJ soon to see where PDL goes.

>07.Yi Yi

It's guaranteed to appear in my list. Dunno where yet.

>01.Zodiac

Perfect movie in my book.

The basement scene still gave me goosebumps during my rewatch. Magnificent sequence. However, why did dude act that way towards Graysmith? Was it just to mess w/ Graysmith? Also, did Fincher do it strictly for tension? If he did, for my money, that's not a bad thing.

BTW, Memories of Murder was the best police procedural-serial killer-detective movie I saw in the 2000s until Zodiac came along. Highly recommended. Don't worry, it's Korean, but lacks the dead-time and other traits of Asian art film 'cause it isn't one. It's pretty classical (except for character development which isn't a strike against this flick). Unfussy, unpretentious. First-rate craftmanship.

re: Rest of your list
Great choices.

>my '05 list.
>
>Reason for differences:

You get an honorary David Caruso In Jade Award for that.

  

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1- The Pianist: devastating, powerful, great all-around. I still listen to the score.

2-No Country For Old Men: I'm still in awe. I honestly can't remember when a movie lived up to my expectations. Perfect adaptation in every way.

3-Children of Men: This movie was the most intense thing I've ever seen in the theaters. Cuaron is looking like the next Spielberg.

4-Werckmeister Harmonies: I just saw it the other day. Listen to Deebot, see the movie already.

5-After the Wedding: It's essentially a melodrama, but it's so well-acted and shot that it's much more than that.

6-City of God: Another intense movie. Maybe the most kinetic film I've ever seen. It's brimming with energy.

7-Cache: Not exactly perfect IMO, but the creepy atmosphere and shocking scenes of violence make this a great film.

8-The Incredibles: Flawless, entertaining as hell.

9-Sympathy For Mr. Vengeance: Oldboy was great, but this movie is superior IMO. It's a revenge film that forces viewers to meditate on the consequences and senselessness of violence. It's shot like a nature film.

10-Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon: Gorgeous and epic, it's a masterpiece. The action scenes are phenomenal. It's not ranked higher because, to me, it drags a bit in the middle.

Honorable Mentions:

Black Book
Bourne Ultimatum
Gladiator
Oldboy
Hero
Time To Leave
The Beat My Heart Skipped

  

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1. In the Mood for Love (Wong, 2000)

I’m surprised that some people think this movie is just a love story. No doubt is that a major part of the film, but there’re reasons why the movie continues with the Singapore and Cambodia sections. The Hong Kong title is Flower Like Years which is much more straightforward of the movie’s main themes, in my eyes – nostalgia and memory. The intertitles are key. The film is also rich in period, cultural, and socio-political detail.

Wong shoots through windows and decor in the foreground to give a feeling of eavesdropping - a quality of the crunched living conditions of the time. Many people say how sexy this movie is yet there are no sex scenes. The music, costumes, and production design have something to do with that notion. So does the textures and tactility of the cinematography by Christopher Doyle and the overlooked great Mark Lee Ping-bin. And I just thing the framing and use of offscreen space is masterful. All these elements give us an experience of nostalgia, memory, unrequited love, repressed desire, infidelity, and societal constraint. It’s funny, too.


2. Yi Yi (Yang, 2000)

(If you’ve only seen this movie on the horrible Fox Lorber DVD, do yourself a favor and rent the Criterion one, like, yesterday…no, last month.)
There’s nothing “new” here. Much like Tokyo Story it’s not groundbreaking in terms of content. We’ve seen variants of Yi Yi’s situations either in our own lives, on tv, or in movies. (That isn’t to say that there aren’t character idiosyncracies.) What matters to me is the treatment. Yang puts life under a microscope. Yi Yi illustrates the effect of one’s choices – insignificant ones turn out to have huge consequences. By exploring a family, Yang looks at the individual in contemporary city life. (Compare this urban Taiwan to Hou Hsiao-hsien’s and Tsai Ming-liang’s.) The regret, doubt, unhappiness, and hesitancy in the parents are “contrasted” with the discoveries and promise of the daughter and son. I enjoy the issue of intergrity and past love via the N.J. character the most.

Yang like his contemporary, master filmmaker, Hou (of the late 80s to late 90s) composed in long shots and long takes. The characters’ body language becomes paramount rather than just the eyes and face (as usual in the dominant medium shot and medium close-up heavy aesthetic). The space between them and their environment carries as much dramatic and emotional potential as dialogue. Lots of stuff is said in the unsaid. There are unpretentious stylistic flourishes of images of window reflections. Don’t get it twisted, this movie is funny, too.


3. There Will Be Blood (Anderson, 2007)

I’m a sucker for stories of self-destructive men and misanthropes. And I think this movie has some of the funniest scenes, lines, and deliveries since 2000. Perfect casting. Legendary performance by DDL. Instant classic sequences – derrick explosion and fire; the silver prospector and early oil man sequences; the baptism. I love the Plainviews and Sundays dinner. Ace cinematography and production design. Great score. What’s not to like?

PTA, I think, is the most talented (in terms of range) of the mainstream U.S. directors that emerged around the mid-90s. He’s exhibited a variety of styles from the Scorsese, Altmanesque, and 70s stuff to the Tati-like static camera flourishes of the impressionistic Punch-Drunk Love. While most of the U.S. directors to emerge around the same time as PTA and those who emerged after them move the camera and have the actors more or less sit or stand still and talk (other than the tracking shots of people talking and walking), here PTA actually does some long shots and let the actors act with their bodies and lets the composition and resulting images do the storytelling. PTA also didn’t cut so frequently in some sequences. Maybe my favorite American fictional narrative in years not just since 2000.


4. Friday Night (Denis, 2002)

My favorite one-night stand movie. No, it’s not trashy. Really though, it’s about a woman who is a bit hesitant about a life change and finds something in the moment. Light on dialogue and heavy on impressionistic imagery and tactile and textural sound design. We get numerous superimpositions, dissolves, and even enacted daydream/thought sequences. I love it. It’s one of those movies that I wish I could live in for just one night. Used to think it was flawless, but now it’s near-flawless. (There are some corny stuff, but people do corny stuff all the time when caught up in the moment.) Still a mini-masterpiece.

Claire Denis is one of the most ambitious and exciting filmmakers currently working. She’s been that for years. Agnes Godard is probably my favorite active cinematographer. They bring it. I’ve read Beau Travail described as a tone poem. I think Friday Night is much more than that one. A city symphony, too. It’s all about mood, baby.


5. Three Times (Hou, 2005)

Love isn’t just dependent on attraction and compatibility; cultural and socio-political conditions have just as much say. Hou Hsiao-hsien explored different periods of Taiwan in the 20th century in his “trilogy” which is comprised of City of Sadness; The Puppetmaster; and Good Men, Good Women. Hou sort of does the same in one movie, Three Times. Only here it’s comparatively personal compared to his trilogy. Three Times’ 3rd story grew on me on rewatches (liked it a little on my 1st watch). Very light on dialogue. Beautiful cinematography by Mark Lee Ping-bin. Great performances. Another film from a master.


6. Goodbye, Dragon Inn (Tsai, 2003)

Loneliness and nostalgia are common subject matter in art movies. I'm burnt out on them, but still I enjoyed it and still do on rewatches. The fact that Tsai Ming-liang to me nails the experience of both and dramatizes them in a way that has affected me that few movies have done is saying something. GDI also celebrates, in its eccentric way, moviegoing. Masterfully mournful and joyful at once. There are a couple of LOL moments, too.

Tsai, as he always does, composes in long takes and static shots. There are about 13 lines of dialogue in the entire film and about 4 of them come from a machine. I shit you not. Amazing film if you ask me.


7. The Assassination of Jesse James (Dominik, 2007)

Fantastic dramatization of legend and myth and celebrity culture. I’m a sucker for stories of a man’s last days. This movie didn’t disappoint. Andrew Dominik uses narration which, I think, sort of is a reference to Robert Ford’s dime novel experience. The narration also is contradictory to the images (e.g., Jesse’s excessive blinking due to granulated eyelids); perhaps a nod to myth-making and the gulf between that and fact. I wouldn’t cut a minute of this movie. Perfect cast. Great, great peformances from damn near everyone. Deakins shot and lensed one of the most beautiful movies I’ve seen. Iconic images and sequences. Masterpiece.


8. Zodiac (Fincher, 2007)

A flawless film about obsession, the difficulty of obtaining truth, and the frustration of nearly getting there or being far from it. A damn shame that Paramount didn’t believe in this movie which after its release was probably the best American narrative film in years. Exhausting and riveting. There’s a sense of hopelessness that’s pretty damn scary to me. The basement scene gave me goosebumps even on rewatches. Damn near-perfect casting. Best ensemble of 2007? Perfect storytelling. Classic scenes. Great screenplay, production design, and cinematography. Masterful editing and use of visual effects.


9. Still Life (Jia, 2006)

Jia Zhang-ke is maybe the best right now at making movies about youth and changing times. He chronicles the effects of China’s economic policies on its people’s lives. Here it’s the construction of the Three Gorges Dam destroying a village. Seeing a way of life in ruins is heartbreaking. We see the changes via 2 people who come back to find people from their respective paths. Along with a country’s progress, we see 2 stories of personal progress. Jia effectively uses landscapes and the entire frame. A masterwork of contemporary cinema on contemporary issues. (If you can't see Still Life, his Platform is another masterpiece on youth and pop culture's relationship to the socio-political climate.)


10. Man Push Cart (Bahrani, 2005)

The best American indie since 2000 so far. A moving portrait of a man working a push cart just trying to make ends meet. Depressing and hopeful at once. Bahrani’s hand is so sure here. His handling of gradual exposition is admirable. Here the faux-documentary look is perfect. See this one, people.


20 more b/c I can't post w/o giving these movies love:

11. Punch-Drunk Love (Anderson, 2002)
12. The Death of Mister Lazarescu (Puiu, 2005)
13. Werckmeister Harmonies (Tarr; Hranitzky (?); 2000)
14. No Country For Old Men (Joel and Ethan Coen, 2007)
15. The Gleaners and I (Varda, 2000)
16. The 40 Year Old Virgin (Apatow, 2005)
17. The Son (Jean-Pierre and Luc Dardenne; 2002)
18. Bus 174 (Padilha; Lacerda; 2002)
19. Platform (Jia, 2000)
20. Our Song (McKay, 2000)
21. The Baxter (Showalter, 2005)
22. Distant (Ceylan, 2002)
23. Nobody Knows (Kore-eda, 2004)
24. What Time Is It There? (Tsai, 2001)
25. Café Lumiere (Hou, 2003)
26. When the Levees Broke: A Requiem in Four Acts (Lee, 2006)
27. Distance (Kore-eda, 2001)

28. The Intruder (Denis, 2004)

99% of you might hate this going in blind, but here’s a little primer. Don’t take everything literally. Some characters maybe imagined. It’s a film full of metaphors. Think of the title, The Intruder, and think of the heart, places, the job of one of the characters, etc. It’s a seemingly enigmatic film. One that gets better to me on rewatches. The cinematography is amazing. Man, those purple skies. The score is a fantastic loop.

29. Memories of Murder (Bong, 2003)

Not all Asian movies are art films, plotless, and moody. This is a straight up police procedural-serial killer genre piece. Genre craftsmanship at its finest. Change the South Korean details to Anytown, USA and this movie would be talked about a lot. Yup.

30. Duck Season (Eimbcke, 2004)


  

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116. "Very interesting list..."
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Even though I pretty much hate 5-10 of the movies of your 20 you still inspired me to add a few to my Netflix queue and you make good arguments for all of them. L'Intrus is one of my favorites that so few people have seen I could watch that 100 times. Other films you list I liked but certainly not enough to make a list as heavyweight as this. But that's what makes a post like this interesting.

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>Even though I pretty much hate 5-10 of the movies of your 20

I know you don't like The Assassination of Jesses James. What are the other ones you hate?

>you still inspired me to add a few to my Netflix queue and you
>make good arguments for all of them.

Others in this post have done the same for me.

>L'Intrus is one of my
>favorites that so few people have seen I could watch that 100
>times.

I'd be lying if I said I'm confident in my interpretation of the movie, that is, which of the characters and sequences are real or imagined. Movies that are extremely barely denotative in the slightest I usually coldly admire like Mulholland Drive or Inland Empire. L'Intrus I love.


**Spoilers**

The use of people crossing borders (intruders), Louis in South Korea (like his transplanted heart a stranger; intruding a foreign place), Louis in Tahiti (similar in use like South Korea, but also a paradise), the girl intruding Louis home back in France, the Russian woman ("The Angel of Death"), etc., all great stuff.

I don't really get Louis' son in Tahiti (the dead one in the medical examiner's office). Is that son and story in Tahiti real? Or is it just a metaphor for his son back home. Or is it the other way around - the son in Tahiti is real and the one in France is a metaphor or whatever? Of course, Denis has to use the same actor for both of the sons!

Shit is both frustrating and engrossing. Denis claims it's really very simple. It probably is. Maybe everything in the movie except the heart transplant are metaphors.

What's your take? You got a "plot" synopsis for me?




**Spoilers End**


>Other films you list I liked but certainly not enough
>to make a list as heavyweight as this. But that's what makes
>a post like this interesting.

My list is mostly comprised and ranked in term of personal favorites. If it were comprised of the greatest movies, that is, movies I think that push the envelope a bit or something like that, Werckmeister Harmonies would be higher. Stuff like Syndromes and a Century and Virgin Stripped Bare Be Her Bachelors would be Top 10, I think. Stuff like The Baxter and most likely The 40 YOV wouldn't be there.

  

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117. "RE: Here's my 10 (capsules) +20 more (list)"
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>7. The Assassination of Jesse James (Dominik, 2007)

You forgot to mention how great the score is. Nick Cave has been killing film scores.

>17. The Son (Jean-Pierre and Luc Dardenne; 2002)

Glad you mentioned this one

  

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>>7. The Assassination of Jesse James (Dominik, 2007)
>You forgot to mention how great the score is. Nick Cave has
>been killing film scores.

Slipped my mind, I'm ashamed to say. I think it's tied at the very least w/ Greenwood's for the best one of 2007. Some of the pieces remind me of Vig's score for Werckmeister.

>>17. The Son (Jean-Pierre and Luc Dardenne; 2002)
>Glad you mentioned this one

Hitchcockian social realist-naturalist drama. What's not to like?

  

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120. "great thread!"
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1 In the Mood...
2 Tony Takitani
3 Matrix
4 Woman on the Beach
5 Lost in Translation
6 3 Iron
7 Yi Yi
8 La Haine
9 Fallen Angels
10 Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon

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121. "Here are the results. About 17 months late."
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And in appreciation for those that took the time to write capsules.

Out of 17 ballots. I didn't count film entries that did not meet the requirement of at least a 2-sentence write-up.

1. In the Mood For Love (47 points)
2. City of God (36 points)
3. The Pianist (32 points)
4. 25th Hour (31 points)
5. Yi Yi (29 points)
6. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (28 points)
7. Children of Men (25 points)
8. The Departed (20 points)
9. The Royal Tenenbaums (17 points)
10. (tie) Half Nelson; Pan's Labyrinth (16 points)
12. Punch-Drunk Love (12 points)


The films that appeared on the most eligible ballots (5) are:
In the Mood For Love
City of God
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind

  

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What's the process with the best of the full decade? The last anchored post I saw was just to get the conversation started, not formal votes, right?

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>The last
>anchored post I saw was just to get the conversation started,
>not formal votes, right?

Yup.

Right now, only 3 people have voiced that they're down for a February 1 closing for the preliminary / lobby phase and a March 1 closing for official ballots. I'll wait 'til Wednesday to see if anyone else chimes in. But right now that looks like the timetable.

  

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>1. In the Mood For Love (47 points)

GOOD!!!

>2. City of God (36 points)

Smh. Shitty movie.

>3. The Pianist (32 points)

GOOD!

>5. Yi Yi (29 points)

I should see this again, but I thought it was quite boring.

>8. The Departed (20 points)

ehhhhhhh. Aviator better.

  

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