rac·ism Pronunciation Key (rszm)
n.
1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.

There is nothing in the definition about power. There is nothing in the definition about opression. What most of you are talking about when you say that power is a prerequisite to racism is INSTITUTIONAL racism. By the very definition of the word, blacks can be racist. Whites can be racist. Hispanics, Native Americans and Australian Aboriginies can be racist. Koreans can be racist. Eskimos can be racist. If a white man calls someone a "slope" he is being racist. If a black man calls someone "caveboy" he is being a racist. If you say black people can't be racist, then you are either inventing your own definition of the word "racism", or you don't understand the actual definition of the word. A dictionary may be helpful in alleviating this deficiency.

i thought there was no such thing as RACE

next...

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That's irrelevant. If someone believes there is such a thing, and bases his beliefs on it or believes in the superiority of one "race" over another, or believes that "race" accounts for differences in character or ability, then they are a racist.

You have semantically contextualized the true meaning of racism in an very inappropriate fashion! In this instance, fuck the dictionary! Why do you insist on Black people having the ability to be racist? This is a bogus claim! Study the historical tenets of the socially engineered concept of race and the inception of imperialism & the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trades, then rapidly reconfigure your thesis.

In the root word of RACISM you have RACE, which denotes competition. In this competition the objective is to marginalize your opponent. There is no parity amongst Blacks in comparison to whites politically, economically, culturally etc etc... & damn near any other ethnic groups or "minorities." This is the true function of RACISM! To create disproportions in the distribution of wealth, & accesses to the resources that would allow Black people to function autonomously of White people! White people control the fulcrum of society thru imperialism!

“True racism exists only when one group holds a disproportionate share of wealth and power over another group (or groups) then uses those resources to marginalize, exploit, and subordinate Blacks. Whites can deny Blacks employment, educational opportunities, business resources, a place to live & or the right to vote. Therefore, according to this definition, Black people cannot be racist. No group of Blacks has the power or the exclusive control of resources to the degree that they can educationally, politically, economically and socially exploit and marginalize the white race.” – Dr. Claud Anderson

So now on that note...

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>In the root word of RACISM you have RACE, which denotes
>competition.

There's no reason to counter all the other crap in your post, because this idiotic statement is the entire foundation for your erroneous assertion. There is more than one definition of "race" and they are not all related. The CORNY 5% habit of breaking down words in order to change their meaning only serves to distance you from the true and actual definition of the word, and puts you at a disadvantage when debating someone who has a firm and unwavering grasp of the English language. For instance -

What is MELANIN? Why are black people always talking about it? Well, let's break it down - melanin is melon - in. Now, what do you put your melon in? A basket! See! Melanin is the basket of hate that angry blacks put all white people in regardless of if they're racist or not!

Drop that fucking horse shit. It's stupid.

You semantical cosmopolitian attention seeking moron! What I did was parallel to an etymology, you fuckin idiot, stop trolling the discussion & please do yourself a favor & save your droaning humor, u are nowhere near the hemisphere of being funny! Now Once again, I implore you to STUDY the socially engineered concept of race & imperialism. The word race first appeared w/the emergence of the slave practice in the 16th century. Records indicate the word race was selected because the various EUROPEAN slave-trading nations were in a CONTEST, COMPETING, to profit from the mineral & human wealth of Africa. This is the inception of Western Civilization...

You Paul Nice are as RIDICULOUS AS JAMES TRAFFICANT'S WIG! Dismal idiot! On that note...

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Once again you are wrong. You should concentrate on content and stop searching for multisyllabic words in your thesaurus. The word "race", as it is used in conjunction with a group of people, was first used in France to describe wines with a common characteristic flavor - the Middle French word "razza". It later went on to mean "group of people with common occupation," and "generation". The modern meaning of "one of the great divisions of mankind based on physical peculiarities" is from 1774. It never referred to any "competition" in any way shape or form.

Perhaps you should READ the definition of the word "etymology" before you use it again.

Why am I wrong, because you say so? LOL, I do not search for multisyllabic words as you put it, that is just how I speak, & I personally do not own a thesaurus.

Ok on to etymology. An etymology is the branch of science that deals w/the origin and historical development of words. Tracing its earliset usage and the transmission of words via other languages. Ok example, patriarch is a male leader or a society ran by a man or men. The etymology of this word has its inception in the word PADRE, which is Latin for father. W/all of this in mind, that's why I said what I did was parallel to an etymological breakdown.

Being prejudice & racist are not synonymous. Understanding the cosmopolitian ploys of semantics is rudimentary for this discussion. On this note...

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Wrong again. Etymology is not a branch of science, it is the branch of linguistics dealing with the history of words. And the root word of "patriarch" is not "padre" - that's Spanish. The root wort of "patriarch" is "pater", which does mean father and is latin. Race as a competition and race as a group of people have 2 different root words, the first being Old Norse "raes" meaning a strong running brook or stream.

And no - you're not wrong because I say so, you're wrong because you put forth an erroneous assertion that runs contrary to all philology and etymology.

science is the study or observation of etc... Etymology is the study of words and their historical derivatives etc etc... You are correct in stating the linguistics aspect of this, but you are misconstruing the point. Etymology is a science because you are studying, gathering information to make it relevant to whatever the circumstances may be.

Add on: You are the only one w/this erroneous assertion of Black people having the ability to be racist. It is bigger than me not liking someone based on their ethnicity, that's called pre-judging someone. Nettrice eloquently responded to this post stating it is all about power! I have to concur w/her assessment. So now on this note...

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>science is the study or observation of etc... Etymology is
>the study of words and their historical derivatives etc
>etc... You are correct in stating the linguistics aspect of
>this, but you are misconstruing the point. Etymology is a
>science because you are studying, gathering information to
>make it relevant to whatever the circumstances may be.

Ah. You're right, I'm wrong.

>Add on: You are the only one w/this erroneous assertion of
>Black people having the ability to be racist. It is bigger
>than me not liking someone based on their ethnicity, that's
>called pre-judging someone. Nettrice eloquently responded
>to this post stating it is all about power! I have to
>concur w/her assessment. So now on this note...

You may concur, but you'd be wrong. To prove this, I once again refer you to the definition of the word "racist", posted above. I think you will find no references to "power" whatsoever.

what's that?

"fs"?

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You are really stoopid.
Wow.

You put melon in a basket huh? Good one
lol!

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Definition:
The natural substance that gives color (pigment) to hair, skin, and iris.

Meaning: Every one has melanin in them. The less you have, the lighter your skin color or pigment. The more, the darker.

And as far as race, call me naive, but I thought there was only one race. The human race. Nationallity of a person is one thing, but we are all humans, aren't we?!
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There's only one race: Negro. All peoples came from Southeast Africa. Genetically speaking, since Africans can produce the greatest amount of diversity in a species, Africans are the only race.

Kill all the people who carry African blood and the white people will only be able to produce offspring that look like them. Kill all the white people and the people left, who have genetic diversity, can create white people again (even if it takes a while).


So no, the one race isn't "human", it's Negro... or even better, African.

Peace,

Quentin

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I dig ya'.
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the two of you (DeRaye Mustafa & Cued) are cosigning the science of grafting, is this true? On this note...

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“True racism exists only when one group holds a disproportionate share of wealth and power over another group (or groups) then uses those resources to marginalize, exploit, and subordinate Blacks. Whites can deny Blacks employment, educational opportunities, business resources, a place to live & or the right to vote. Therefore, according to this definition, Black people cannot be racist. No group of Blacks has the power or the exclusive control of resources to the degree that they can educationally, politically, economically and socially exploit and marginalize the white race.” – Dr. Claud Anderson

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Grafting is not a science, it's a fairytale for weak minded fools.

...it's a genetic fact. I won't say that a man named Yacub actually grafted the white man from the black, but do your study on genetics (dominate and recessive genes) along with the study of human history and you'll find that the first human being came Africa and that's it's more than possible for people of a lighter skin tone to come from a people of a dark skin tone. Not the other way around. It's genetics. Not fantasy. And not grafting.
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because I'm aware that this is not the premise of this post/discussion. With that being said, if its not grafting, then what would you call it, Eugenics? On this note...

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"You may say I'm a dreamer. I'm not the only one. I hope someday you will join us. And the world can live as one."-John Lennon-Imagine


Assalaamua Alaikum wa Rahmatullah wa Barakatuh

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I concur w/your assessment! On this note...

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There are those - and I am not included in their number - who believe that blacks evolved into a more advanced species of homosapien.

Ya know, I heard about that when I was... 20... listening to one of the most beautiful and vibrant sistas I have ever met. She was a recently converted Five Percenter. To be honest, religions make me go blank, except I LOVE the mysticism of all religions.

Anyway, it wasn't until I read _Existentia Africana_ that I found that little (but HUGE) kernal of truth and I was overjoyed.

Lesson: There's truth in most everything.

And there I was, thinking she was a fanatic and wondering why she would subscribe to any religion that sought to break her down and make her submissive. Yes, I had a crush on her. A BIG OL' crush. But I was very in that place of letting women know that my primary attractions were towards male-oriented humans. (convoluted enough? But there is a reason for me to say it like that, but I digress... you can inbox me if you really wanna know)

So... I did nothing but watch her be beautiful and tell me these stories and like a chump, say nothing.

I might've seen her once after that summer. When she realized I played for the other team, her smile was never as open. Felt shitty, but dat's life, folks!

peace,

Q

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ok, but then by that definition you are calling white people as a whole, racist. because it is the government, it is cops, it is society as a whole holding down the black race. but his definition is speaking on a more relevant level, person to person. and thats what we are, individuals. so by his definition, an individual black person can indeed be racist. this isnt debateable, black people dont only live in america. in africa, one group of black people can easily oppress another. what would you call that? both groups are black, but they are different economicaly and culturaly. so what you are describing can be the case for many groups around the world, it doesnt have to be based on race. thats just the case in america. i dont know, im sure ill learn more as my life progresses, and there are many definitions of racism, but understand, there are also many different types, and not all of them involve society as a whole.
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>ok, but then by that definition you are calling white people
>as a whole, racist. because it is the government, it is
>cops, it is society as a whole holding down the black race.
>but his definition is speaking on a more relevant level,
>person to person. and thats what we are, individuals. so by
>his definition, an individual black person can indeed be
>racist. this isnt debateable, black people dont only live in
>america. in africa, one group of black people can easily
>oppress another. what would you call that? both groups are
>black, but they are different economicaly and culturaly. so
>what you are describing can be the case for many groups
>around the world, it doesnt have to be based on race. thats
>just the case in america. i dont know, im sure ill learn
>more as my life progresses, and there are many definitions
>of racism, but understand, there are also many different
>types, and not all of them involve society as a whole.
>peace


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The history of contact between the white and black

whats the point...you duty is to teach the babies..he aint a baby. now cipher on that!

please do not refer to me as a nigga!

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DONT CALL PEOPLE OUT THERE NAMES

UMMM YEAH BUT WHY CUZ ITS YA DUTY BROTHER
U FORGOT O SOMETHING

I've learned that people will forget what you said, people will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel.

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and there in lies the problem

people want to break shit down to a t

we (especially you) are stuck in a quagmire of "exactness"

in doing so more focus is based on the goobly gook defined by some fat bellied european (u know i had to throw that shit in there right:) and at the same time less focus-(negation) is based on facts shaped by REALITY

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Wrong. The reality is that there ARE black people who believe whites are inferior, and that is racist. Period.

YOU ARE INFERIOR TO ME

but i still luv you snow flake

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hey, what does n/m stand for or mean? i've always wondered that.

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and once again, ppl i admire in these boards make their point across in great class! jenjuice, cued, thank God we have you around.

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See, I was agreeing with you until now, Paul. I believe blacks as well as anybody else has the capabilities to be racist. I think that this remains merely a possibility, a hypothesis, because I'm not sure how many people truly believe that whites are inferior. That is, there many, such as your man in here, that'll scream the rhetoric of inherent white inferiority, and even though there are certain documented manifestations of particular weaknesses on behalf of anglos (i.e., biologically--recessive genes, prone to diseases, etc.), I'm not sure how many of these actually believe the thought that whites are inferior. I happen to believe that much of the NOI movement and various other ideologies that espouse white evilness or inferiority are borne out of a feeling of over-compensation and bravado as opposed to analysis and deep-rooted belief. Therefore, I'd say that while we have the capabilities to be as racist as anybody, especially as people of color are empowered in different fashions worldwide, for the most part we cannot be racist because we are still overly concerned with the rhetorical parts of racism and not the actual systematic manifestations of it. In other words, we want to look militant, yet we really don't have the experience and expertise or even the mindstate being oppressors like white folks do. It's a skill, I imagine.

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>goobly gook defined by some fat bellied european

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that definition? From Webster's white man's dictionary? Of course, you're conditioned to go by white man's definitions. You've been brainwashed into acceptin' their ideology as absolute truth in order to protect yourselves.

What definition of "racism" do you use, Freeman? Definitions are not objective. This would be like me saying to a Frenchman "Oui? Oh, I see - you're using the French Man's dictionary. MY definition of "oui" is "cantelope"." It's fucking ridiculous - it's not the white man's dictionary - IT'S THE FUCKING ENGLISH DICTIONARY YOU STUPID JACKASS!

Whats the point of this post. You know there are some Blacks that hate Whites, and there are sure as hell alot of whites thats hate. Thats not the issue. The issue is we live under a system that favors whites and the expense of people of color, and this is coming from a white man.

Your posts remind me how stupid teenagers are

>Whats the point of this post. You know there are some Blacks
>that hate Whites, and there are sure as hell alot of whites
>thats hate. Thats not the issue. The issue is we live under
>a system that favors whites and the expense of people of
>color, and this is coming from a white man.

Listen whitey, you're probably the only dipshit here who doesn't know the point of this post. This has been an ongoing point of contention between myself and some others on the board. Many people here assert that black people CAN NOT be racist, that there is not ONE racist black person in America, because they don't have power. I am illustrating - by posting the very definition of the word - that power is irrelevant when deciding who is or isn't racist. Try and follow the bouncing ball for chrissakes.

>Listen whitey, you're probably the only dipshit here who
>doesn't know the point of this post. This has been an
>ongoing point of contention between myself and some others
>on the board. Many people here assert that black people CAN
>NOT be racist, that there is not ONE racist black person in
>America, because they don't have power. I am illustrating -
>by posting the very definition of the word - that power is
>irrelevant when deciding who is or isn't racist. Try and
>follow the bouncing ball for chrissakes.

I think you're actin' sensitive cos you're afraid your white privilege isn't as secure as you imagined it to be. And again, power is very much a part of the equation. Why be worried 'bout a "racist" who can't act on his opinions? Whatever hate is only internalized. Nobody's hurtin' you Paul so stop shittin' in your pants.

That was a nice tactical retreat. And I don't give a chunk of flying fucking dogshit about "white priveledge" - I can stand on my own because of my obvious and imposing intellect. Though sometimes I envy you and your scapegoat safety-net. If me and the other cavedwellers lose our "white priveledge", can I borrow it?

LOL

>That was a nice tactical retreat. And I don't give a chunk
>of flying fucking dogshit about "white priveledge" -

Right, right. You only say that cos you haven't been to the other side of the fence. You're where you're at right now because of that "white" pass. Clearly, you have the intelligence and sense of a five year-old( and that's givin' you too much credit) and yet, even despite that, I'm sure you're livin' decently. Had you been born black, you'd be scrapin' toilets.

I can
>stand on my own because of my obvious and imposing
>intellect.

No, you stand only because of your white status. Had you been born into another race with that level of intellect, your ass wouldn't have made it past your first birthday.

"white Priveledge" "scapecoat"
-the average income for a black American is 61% less per year than the the average white income
-Whites are 5 times more likely than blacks to receives emergency clot-emergency-busting treatment for stroke
-Black levels of Unemployment have been roughtly twice those of whites since 1954
This may have little to do with your bullshit "rasicism" dissucusion, but comments like the one you made above piss me off. Yes we are priveledged. Deal with it Your a fuckin jack ass

A black man stole your girlfriend i bet.

You are 100% right. This has absolutely nothing to do with this post.

"the average income for a black American is 61% less per year than the the average white income"

DAMN

still?

even after ALL the more white people on welfare than black folk?

wow

"The only thing we wanted for our country was the right to a decent existence, to dignity without hypocrisy , to independence without restrictions... The day will come when history will have its say."-Lumumba

Blacks make up 15 20 percent of the population do the math. Thats why I delt in percentages you fuckin idiot.

pick one

cuz i was agreeing with you you fucking idiot

"The only thing we wanted for our country was the right to a decent existence, to dignity without hypocrisy , to independence without restrictions... The day will come when history will have its say."-Lumumba

Yeah im sorry dawg. you made a good point Paul is a jack ass

cool

BUT i don't think pauls a jack ass

HE'S REAL

and that's why i like him, because he doesn't play the complacement white boy-and i have nothing but admiration for people that do that...(that is play complacement)

your the bomb to me if you go agaisn't the grain

i'll take his over analytical bull shit any day over a white person agreeing with everything that's right from a "black perspective" all the time (not that there's anything wrong with that) but you know what im tryin to say

and although i don't agree with that mother fucker he DOES have some valid points, plus a shit load of wit which makes him O.K in my book..

"The only thing we wanted for our country was the right to a decent existence, to dignity without hypocrisy , to independence without restrictions... The day will come when history will have its say."-Lumumba

But the majority of white boys share his opinion. Not only do they follow his definition of racism, but they refuse to accept knowledge from Blacks. So, he isn't going against the grain. He's a regular Joe white Boy.

from what i see HERE in the activist department

the majority of white people (from what i see on this message board) if they share similar views w/joey aren't THAT verbose and blatant as HE is.

if you want to accuse him of refusing to accept knowledge from blacks, you might as well accuse me, yourself, and any other black person that disagree's with him for the same thing..

i.e:"not accepting knowledge from whites"

"The only thing we wanted for our country was the right to a decent existence, to dignity without hypocrisy , to independence without restrictions... The day will come when history will have its say."-Lumumba

>if you want to accuse him of refusing to accept knowledge
>from blacks, you might as well accuse me, yourself, and any
>other black person that disagree's with him for the same
>thing..
>
>i.e:"not accepting knowledge from whites"

But I admit to that. I don't want to accept any more than what I've already been brainwashed with (in primary, secondary, junior/senior high, and in college). I don't hide behind some politically correct front.

And now, I'm movin' beyond the boards and into reality:

If someone clearly has issues acceptin' knowledge from Blacks, I want them to say it out loud for the world to hear. I mean, what's so obvious/blatant to us is the last thing to be noticed by *insert any white person's name".

>But I admit to that. I don't want to accept any more than what >I've already been brainwashed with (in primary, secondary, >junior/senior high, and in college). I don't hide behind some >politically correct front.

but why is it brain washed?

can you honestly say that ALL the information you received was for the betterment of the white race/belittlement of the black mind, non factual/genuine?

>And now, I'm movin' beyond the boards and into reality:

>If someone clearly has issues acceptin' knowledge from Blacks, >I want them to say it out loud for the world to hear. I mean, >what's so obvious/blatant to us is the last thing to be noticed >by *insert any white person's name".

what is this knowledge?

or are you speaking in terms of knowledge based on "racial issues"?

from what OR who's perspective should it be deemed correct, and why?

p. i DO see what your saying, and to some extent agree)

i just need a lil more elaboration, flex your brain muscle's and impress m

"The only thing we wanted for our country was the right to a decent existence, to dignity without hypocrisy , to independence without restrictions... The day will come when history will have its say."-Lumumba

Interestingly enough, that had nothing to do with the post either. You wanna post about your favorite Creed album next, geek?

neither does this

shut up

"The only thing we wanted for our country was the right to a decent existence, to dignity without hypocrisy , to independence without restrictions... The day will come when history will have its say."-Lumumba

Dude,

You are SOOOOOOOOO far away from being anywhere NEAR intelligent!

*lol*

You are using a dictionary... a _dictionary_! to make a statement about reality.

*shakes head*

You are the otherside of intelligent my friend. Sorry.

Dictionaries are best use to find the distinct differences between similar words, pronunciations, and etymology (which IS a science *shakes head*). Does it exist in reality? No. Is it going to favor those who "won" in the history books? Yes. Is it impartial and objective? No. It's a dictionary and you have to use it like a dictionary. It is a _TOOL_ not the machine.

Your privilege allows you to write the stupid shit you wrote in here without thinking twice about how dumb you truly appear.

People of color cannot be racist because they don't have the power to implement any race prejudice they have.

That doesn't mean people of color can't be prejudiced. It doesn't mean people of color can't be bigots. And it sure as hell doesn't mean we can't be rude. But it does me we can't oppress you the way you and your brethren and sistern (heh) can oppress us at any given time under any circumstances.

Take, for example, years ago when Susan Smith drowned her children. On her word, in South Carolina that summer, they searched high and low for the Black man who kidnapped and drowned her children. They even got some poor joker to confess to it. Then they found out she did it.

Does this mean that Susan Smith hated Black people? Not necessarily. But she did have the power to direct attention away from herself and onto Black men and have people believe her, even find someone to confess to it, while she committed the crime herself.

Racism is a system. It isn't a collection of ill will or feelings. It is like a machine and it has parts to it and it is fueled. It is fueled by people like you who can't own to their part in perpetuating it and people like me who don't always fight it as hard as they can when it is crushing their backs.

So there, I have said what I think you are really after. Yes, not all Black people like white people. Yes, some of us, even rightfully, think of ourselves as being superior to white folks. Yes, some of us want nothing to do with buckras. (a word I am learning to love) However, do people of color have the power to be believed _at their word_ like Susan Smith? While the example of Susan Smith picks up institutionally, what gets me is how her word was believed without doubt. Never in my life have I uttered a word to these selfsame institutions without my word being challenged and 'buked. Yet, a white woman, a white person, can say, "A Black man kidnapped my chill'un and drown'd them!" and be believed.

Think on it and come up to being as intelligent as you say.

Peace,

Quentin

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"When the revolution comes, "faggots" won't be so funny." - The Last Poets

** Most people mis-read this line. I don't think he is being homophobic. I think he's making sure you folks know, within our communities, those of you who laugh at

i read most the posts on here and i think this one really breaks down the differences of racism, bigotry, prejudice and hatred.
i am wonderin why it hasn't been responded to yet.
i'm not smart like all y'all people, but i pride myself in being fairly open minded, but not to the extent of accepting whatever someone will tell me.
so i don't know, maybe i'm off on my opinion of this post, but i thought it was well put
peace
w/love
dave

i don't want to do this