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"Why Can't People Acccept that Jesus was African?"


  

          

Why is this such a huge issue even amoungst blacks?
I know why it's a white man's issue, it removes their power to a degree and it calls out their years and years of lying... but we know what... what is it. Common sense will tell you that the first Jews were black... all the mannerisms of Christ indicate he was Black. It's plain as day.
Let's build... what is this paranoia over the black Christ.

  

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RE: Why Can't People Acccept that Jesus was African?
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           RE: Why Can't People Acccept that Jesus was African?
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                RE: Why Can't People Acccept that Jesus was African?
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                the bust of Abraham in Jerusalem depicts him as a black man
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                     is that bust of Abraham 5000 years old?
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                          check out Ashra Kwezi's African Origins of Zionism
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                LOL!
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                RE: LOL!
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                     But
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                          RE: But
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                hmmmmm ... so are you saying ...
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                     RE: hmmmmm ... so are you saying ...
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                Jesus, the Beautiful Black MAN.
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                     Wrong...
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                          RE: Wrong...
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                          RE: Wrong...
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                          RE: Wrong...
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                               RE: Wrong...
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                               RE: Wrong...
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                               RE: Wrong...
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                                    RE: Wrong...
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                                         Exactly.
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                                         well, to be fair...
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                                              RE: well, to be fair...
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                                                   RE: well, to be fair...
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                                                        RE: well, to be fair...
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                                                             there are *very* few Ethiopian Jews in this country
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                                                                  Um.. do you know any at all?
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                                                                  not personally, no
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                                                                  RE: not personally, no
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                                                                  RE: not personally, no
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                          I don't, explain.
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                               RE: I don't, explain.
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                          RE: Wrong...
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                               RE: Wrong...
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           Alas!!! Someone finally said it...
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           RE: Alas!!! Someone finally said it...
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                RE: Alas!!! Someone finally said it...
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                     RE: Alas!!! Someone finally said it...
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                          RE: Alas!!! Someone finally said it...
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                               RE: Alas!!! Someone finally said it...
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                               RE: Alas!!! Someone finally said it...
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           hahahahahahahahaahah
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           RE: hahahahahahahahaahah
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                RE: hahahahahahahahaahah
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                     RE: hahahahahahahahaahah
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           there were all kinds of jews
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                RE: there were all kinds of jews
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                     whatever.
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                          RE: whatever.
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                               RE: whatever.
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                                    meek?
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                                         RE: meek?
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                                              i don't pick this battle.
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                                                   RE: i don't pick this battle.
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                                                        we're basically saying the same thing
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                                                             No...
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           ........
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           RE: ........
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                Seriously
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                     ?
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                     RE: ?
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                     Because
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                          RE: Because
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                               Is this a trap?!
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                     RE: ?
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                          RE: ?
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                          Does this help?
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                          This ought to be interesting...
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                          RE: Does this help?
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                               RE: Does this help?
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                          he's right tho
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                               RE: he's right tho
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                                    to him, the bible IS facts.
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                                         RE: to him, the bible IS facts.
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                                         RE: to him, the bible IS facts.
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                                              faith & logic = apples & oranges
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                                                   RE: faith & logic = apples & oranges
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                                                        all right.
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                                                             Actually not true...
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                                                                  i don't know who you're reading
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                                                                       Dr. Naeem Akbar/ I mean your still quesitoning CLEO? Really?
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                                                                       yo...
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                                                                       I feel you..
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                                                                       oh. wrong author.
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                                                                       ...and by the way
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                          Fair point
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                               RE: Fair point
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                                    Thanks for the schooling
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                                         RE: Thanks for the schooling
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                                         could you not disrespect someone elses faith please?
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                                              RE: could you not disrespect someone elses faith please?
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                                                   thats offense but ok whatever
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                                                        Don't be so anal
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                                                        RE: thats offense but ok whatever
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                                                        How is that offensive?
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                                                             Exactly.
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                     RE: Seriously
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                          RE: Seriously
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                               RE: Seriously
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           Bethlehem is in Africa?
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                RE: Bethlehem is in Africa?
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                     Really? So Iraq is in Africa too?
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                          RE: Really? So Iraq is in Africa too?
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                          there might be some elements of truth behind the myth actually
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                               RE: there might be some elements of truth behind the myth actually
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                               no, but this does:
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                                    RE: no, but this does:
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                                    Brilliant post
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                                         RE: Brilliant post
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                                              Exactly!
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                                                   LOL
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                               i've read about this too
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                                    RE: i've read about this too
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                                         RE: i've read about this too
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                                              that's the whole story basically
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                          RE: Really? So Iraq is in Africa too?
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      LOL!!!
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                IS THAT IT???!!!
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                RE: IS THAT IT???!!!
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                     Boo
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                          RE: Boo
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                               Proof?
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                                    RE: Proof?
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                                    credit where it's due
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                So lets pile all of your bullshit into one post.
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                LMAO
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                you can't hear Jimi
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           Bono is humble?
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                RE: Bono is humble?
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                     RE: Bono is humble?
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                          your'e crazy
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                               RE: your'e crazy
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                                    RE: your'e crazy
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                                    RE: your'e crazy
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                                         I fully agree with you on that
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                                                   RE: I fully agree with you on that
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                                                        RE: I fully agree with you on that
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                                    nobody who wears colored sunglasses indoors is humble
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                                    RE: nobody who wears colored sunglasses indoors is humble
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                                    Bono wasn't GRACIOUS enough to GIVE HIS Grammy's to India Irie...
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      simply because you claim he is, that makes it a fact?
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Doesn't the story go....
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somebody needs to add to that *points up*
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co sign all of this
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      *Subtext*
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                LOL!
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                     who the hell are you? im already involved with someone....
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                          LMAO! It was a lighthearted joke...
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Christ's mannerisms indicate he was Black?
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RE: Christ's mannerisms indicate he was Black?
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LOL
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      RE: LOL
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He had bitches and hoes,
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RE: Christ's mannerisms indicate he was Black?
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      RE: Christ's mannerisms indicate he was Black?
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FISH ? FISH ? and no chicken ?
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HaHa very funny muhfucka (c)Run DMC
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oddspot.
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Was Jesus Black?
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RE: oddspot.
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      RE: oddspot.
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RE: Why Can't People Acccept that Jesus was African?
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Yep
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Judiasm is an ethnic group comprised of
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      RE: Judiasm is an ethnic group comprised of
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           Do you know what ethnic means?
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                RE: Do you know what ethnic means?
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I'm convinced.. He was Black.
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Aquaman... you listenin??
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RE: Why Can't People Acccept that Jesus was African?
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At first
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It would matter.....
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      RE: It would matter.....
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           The point.....
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I dont know i f he was or not
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RE: I dont know i f he was or not
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RE: I dont know i f he was or not
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RE: I dont know i f he was or not
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      RE: I dont know i f he was or not
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           RE: I dont know i f he was or not
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                RE: I dont know i f he was or not
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                     RE: I dont know i f he was or not
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                          RE: I dont know i f he was or not
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                               RE: I dont know i f he was or not
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                               o.k.
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                                    again with the Hiroshima stuff?
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                                    RE: again with the Hiroshima stuff?
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                                    RE: again with the Hiroshima stuff?
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                                         how is that so much worse than all the other shit that happened in WWII?
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                                         RE: how is that so much worse than all the other shit that happened in W...
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                                         RE: again with the Hiroshima stuff?
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                                              RE: again with the Hiroshima stuff?
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                                                   RE: again with the Hiroshima stuff?
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                                                        Thinking?
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                                    The reason why jews ran finance in Europe is a matter of
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                                         RE: The reason why jews ran finance in Europe is a matter of
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                                              RE: The reason why jews ran finance in Europe is a matter of
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                                                   You have NEVER called me out... hahaha...
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                                                        RE: You have NEVER called me out... hahaha...
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                               Hold up
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                                    RE: Hold up
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                                    RE: Hold up
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                                    RE: Hold up
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                                         RE: Hold up
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                                              Seriously?
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                                                   RE: Seriously?
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                                                        RE: Seriously?
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                                                             RE: Seriously?
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                                                             Come along
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                                                             RE: Come along
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                                                             RE: Come along
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                                                             RE: Seriously?
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                                                                  RE: Seriously?
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                                                                  RE: Seriously?
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                                    RE: Hold up
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                                         RE: Hold up
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                                              RE: Hold up
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                                                   RE: Hold up
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                                                   RE: Hold up
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                                                   Yup
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                                                        No
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                                                             Paranoid much?
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                                                                  ...grow up.
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                                                                       Sympathy for the Old Boys Club
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                                                                       RE: Sympathy for the Old Boys Club
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                                                                       ????
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                                                                       You are wrong.
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                                                                       RE: You are wrong.
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                                                                       RE: You are wrong.
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                                                                       RE: You are wrong.
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                                                                       I would agree with that
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                                                                       RE: I would agree with that
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                                                                       If the Israelis wanted to they could...
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                                                                       RE: If the Israelis wanted to they could...
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                                                                       Meaning
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                                                                       RE: Meaning
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                                                                       RE: Meaning
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                                                                       RE: Meaning
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                                                                       Look on the back pages
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                                                                       RE: I would agree with that
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                                                                       Offensive much?
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                                                                       RE: Offensive much?
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                                                                       Undue?
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                                                                       RE: Undue?
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                                                                       Point out where I did that?
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                                                                       hate
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                                                                       Surely not
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                                                                       fuck it
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                                                                       Apologies
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                                                                       RE: Apologies
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                                    RE: Hold up
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                                         RE: Hold up
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                                              so Jews of 5000 yrs ago looked like you?
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                                                   RE: so Jews of 5000 yrs ago looked like you?
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                                                        RE: so Jews of 5000 yrs ago looked like you?
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                                                        RE: so Jews of 5000 yrs ago looked like you?
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                                                        Never said you did...however, I asked you a question
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                                                             RE: Never said you did...however, I asked you a question
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                                                                  Why did it take you so long to answer
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                                                                       RE: Why did it take you so long to answer
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                                                                            ha riiight
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                                                                            RE: ha riiight
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                                                                            RE: ha riiight
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                Proof?
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                     RE: Proof?
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                     proof?
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                     RE: Proof?
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                          RE: Proof?
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                     RE: Proof?
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                          RE: Proof?
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                          RE: Proof?
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                          RE: Proof?
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                               RE: Proof?
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                                    RE: Proof?
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                                         RE: Proof?
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                                              RE: Proof?
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                                                   RE: Proof?
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                                                        RE: Proof?
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                                                        RE: Proof?
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                                                        RE: Proof?
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                                                             Yeah I read the ONE website... here's why your a dumbass...
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                                                                  RE: Yeah I read the ONE website... here's why your a dumbass...
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                          please stop talking about Ethiopia
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                               RE: please stop talking about Ethiopia
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                                    yeah that would be mad funny
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      he was wrong with saying white "jews"
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Besides
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RE: Besides
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      RE: Besides
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           You can't be this out of the loop... but since I know you are...
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                White people called it Asia minor before they called it the middle east
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Did they have different mothers?
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Well if he wasn't african...
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Worshiping blackness not in this white mans world
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'Cause they smoke rocks.
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RE: 'Cause they smoke rocks.
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           RE: Why Can't People Acccept that Jesus was African?
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                Pictures and Politics
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                     Mythologies
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Here's why it matters...
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this post makes me sad
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RE: this post makes me sad
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RE: this post makes me sad
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RE: this post makes me sad
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      RE: this post makes me sad
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      RE: this post makes me sad
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      RE: this post makes me sad
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           bullshit.
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                RE: bullshit.
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I don't think she is Christian.
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RE: this post makes me sad
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      RE: this post makes me sad
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      RE: this post makes me sad
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      wow...that was stupid
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           RE: wow...that was stupid
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      RE: this post makes me sad
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There are positive post here...
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Proof Jesus is Black...
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RE: Proof Jesus is Black...
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Peace God...
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      RE: Peace God...
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So I am Blak and Jewish?
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RE: So I am Blak and Jewish?
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I'm proud of my heritage man
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      RE: I'm proud of my heritage man
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           And your point?
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                Religion?
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                     THEM AND THEIR RELIGION
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                          RE: THEM AND THEIR RELIGION
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                               You misunderstood me
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                                    RE: You misunderstood me
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                                         Finally some reasoning.
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                                              RE: Finally some reasoning.
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                                              RE: Finally some reasoning.
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                                                   RE: Finally some reasoning.
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                                                        RE: Finally some reasoning.
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                                                             RE: Finally some reasoning.
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                                                             RE: Finally some reasoning.
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                                                             RE: Finally some reasoning.
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                                                                  RE: Finally some reasoning.
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                                                                  So all Jews sell diamonds?
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                                                                       Did I say that stupid?
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                                                                       You went looking for humility in a place where you knew you
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                                                                       RE: You went looking for humility in a place where you knew you
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                                                                       RE: You went looking for humility in a place where you knew you
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                                                                       RE: You went looking for humility in a place where you knew you
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                                                                       What a cunt
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                                                             RE: Finally some reasoning.
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                                                                  RE: Finally some reasoning.
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                                                                       RE: Finally some reasoning.
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                                                                            RE: Finally some reasoning.
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                                                                            You are off the wall...
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                                                                            RE: You are off the wall...
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                                                             Dollar Bill!
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RE: So I am Blak and Jewish?
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you're a Jewlatto
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           see post #263
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           You didnt learn what endogamous meant did you?
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That's not Jesus - that's Ned the wino!
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      If it doesn't matter...
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           Damn...this is still going on?
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because those swap meet paintings look silly
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Moses' wife was Ethipoian
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cause he wasnt
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why cant people accept that Jesus was just a man?
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israel.
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                     genetic studies show European Jews have Middle Eastern/Semitic lineage
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                          See that aqua? Thats called evidence.....
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                          Help me out maybe i'm missing something
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                               yeah, that "Jewish science" is bullshit
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                               that was the first major dispersion of Jews outside of Israel/Judea
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                                         cuz there are still original populations in the region who never left
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                                              This is still not concrete proof.....
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                                                   it's more solid than any alternate theories provide
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                                                                                 Yes they are not the original people from that area...
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                                                                                 How did you feel....
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                                                                                 At this point I am will to agree to disagree..
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                                                                                 me too
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                RE: israel.
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                     hell...
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                               RE: hell...
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                                    RE: hell...
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                                         AND THE CROWD GOES WILD!!!
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                                         pretty much....
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                                                   there was a lot of contact
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      If you ever saw God..
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           But if memory serves me correctly
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                Yes it is Scooby Doo Shit...
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      They were complete savages...
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he called everybody 'brother',liked Gospel,and couldn't get a fair trial
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Good job everyone
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My Balls are from Jamaica
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      All Roads Lead To Afrika
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      White's follow religon - original blacks lived life!
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The Ancestor Speaks
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YES!!!!
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.
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      EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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to response 505...
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Concrete? So let me get this right?
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      RE: Concrete? So let me get this right?
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           Oh it matters.. WHY CONTINUE TO PROMOTE THE LIE?
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           If indeed.....
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508 posts.... tss...
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Coming from a bullshit poster like you...
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      still a bullshit post.
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I got your proof right here
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Yes, check
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why does this matter?
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This is a very naive response...
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      RE: This is a very naive response...
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over 500 posts!!!!
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over 600 posts!!!!
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Proof that Jesus was black
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proofs:
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So i'm in Ghana right now...
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Shakeet Lokh Em
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1. "RE: Why Can't People Acccept that Jesus was African?"
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Because he wasn't. lol

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2. "RE: Why Can't People Acccept that Jesus was African?"
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Nah, he was. That isn't the argument at all.

  

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Shakeet Lokh Em
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3. "RE: Why Can't People Acccept that Jesus was African?"
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Then what is your proof? How could you possibly prove that Jesus Christ the Messiah of mankind was BLACK?

"I'm scientific, but my reflex gangsta"- Black Thought

  

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brainsoup_
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6. "RE: Why Can't People Acccept that Jesus was African?"
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lololol.its conversations like this that make okayactivist one of my favorite places on the whole worldwideweb.

  

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AquamansWrath
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8. "RE: Why Can't People Acccept that Jesus was African?"
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Easily, he was born in Africa to Jewish parents. The first jews were Ethiopian. Now follow that bloodline all the way to Halei Salassie... who claimed to be decendent of King Soloman... all African. All the time.

Now, your proof he was white.

  

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TarnishedSpoon
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11. "RE: Why Can't People Acccept that Jesus was African?"
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The first jews were Ethiopian.

Thats funny... because I'm Jewish by heritage... and I am so white I glow in the fucking dark. I'm so white I thought 'Lucas with the lid of" was the jam of the century (still do personally).

And wait... whats that... oh yeah... you're 'proof' stories and bullshit. Not keeping with any historical record or even spoken history other than that which was fabricated by that mass murderer Haillie Sallasie

S.ean | President of the 'Ban Chris Defendorf' club. We have meetings.

  

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AquamansWrath
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14. "RE: Why Can't People Acccept that Jesus was African?"
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Tue Apr-12-05 03:03 PM by AquamansWrath

  

          

Your Jewish... a kind of Jew.
Yeah... Hebrew... Ethiopian. Perhaps you should study your history.
Soloman. Ethiopia. David. Ring a bell?
Sounds like you love throwing it around and don't know much about it.
Last time I checked Eminem was a dope MC, but blacks started hiphop.

  

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TarnishedSpoon
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20. "RE: Why Can't People Acccept that Jesus was African?"
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>Your Jewish... a kind of Jew.
>Yeah... Hebrew... Ethiopian. Perhaps you should your
>history.
>Soloman. Ethiopia. David. Ring a bell?
>Sounds like you love throwing it around and don't know much
>about it.
>Last time I checked Eminem was a dope MC, but blacks started
>hiphop.

You still can't prove shit!

You haven't for this entire thread... you couldn't provide proof if it bit you on the ass and said "Whats up asshole... I'm proof."

Rather you just regurgitate the ramblings and hyperbole that have been refuted and proven to be nothing more than the self aggrandizing bullshit of misspent racial inequality.

Just a little 'Its okay'

If Jesus was black that wouldn't give you or any other black wo/man more personal value.

If Jesus wasn't black that wouldn't give you or any other black wo/man less personal value.

You simply regurgitate historically unfounded bullshit to try and make yourself feel like you are worth more...

And thats on top of your pity-me all white guys are evil bullshit you spewed later.

Simply enough the historical record calls your bullshit. The Romans (who I am sure, since you are the epitome of one enlightened motherfucker) occupied the area we call Palestine/Israel during the time of Jesus' life. And they describe the people of the area the same way we would describe the Arabs of the area today.

But... lemme guess... that was just the Romans trying to get a leg up on oppressing you and changing the historical record 2000 years ago so black people today wouldn't have a religious icon of their own skin tone.

S.ean | St. Augustus, probably black. Jesus, probably arab.

  

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AquamansWrath
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23. "RE: Why Can't People Acccept that Jesus was African?"
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Nope... it's common sense.
I have given you the African bloodline.
Now your turn.
And don't tell me what it will mean for my people...
thanks tho'. Now, your proof.
cause according to your words...
Jews are the ONLY race (and they are not a race people, just a religion) that have been clean of mixing with any other race... how is that?
Hmmm?
Which is awfully racist to think they are 'pure'. Hmmm? How is this?
Abraham - Ibraheem
Moses - Musa
Soloman - Sulamaynn

Sound white to you?
Nah. Jig is up my man... game is over.

  

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81. "the bust of Abraham in Jerusalem depicts him as a black man"
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even prominent orthodox scholars acknowledge Abraham himself was African.

you're probably a descendent of the khazarites.

SiG
Stand out firmly for Justice as witness before God, even against yourselves, against your kin and against your parents, against people who are rich or poor. Do not follow your inclinations or desires lest you deviate from Justice."
-Quran 4:135

  

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202. "is that bust of Abraham 5000 years old?"
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>even prominent orthodox scholars acknowledge Abraham himself
>was African.

1. which prominent orthodox scholars?
2. how would they know?

>you're probably a descendent of the khazarites.

guess you didn't read up on those genetic studies I posted before.

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554. "check out Ashra Kwezi's African Origins of Zionism"
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he lays it out in his video

SiG
Stand out firmly for Justice as witness before God, even against yourselves, against your kin and against your parents, against people who are rich or poor. Do not follow your inclinations or desires lest you deviate from Justice."
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16. "RE: Why Can't People Acccept that Jesus was African?"
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Jewish by heritage... hahaha...
so how do you get a race of people out of Judaism. You know, where the word comes from. Please explain and while your at it, trace your bloodline. Last time I checked ANYONE could convert to Judaism.
So how does that make you jewish by heritage. Hmm?

  

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TarnishedSpoon
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22. "RE: Why Can't People Acccept that Jesus was African?"
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>Jewish by heritage... hahaha...
>so how do you get a race of people out of Judaism. You know,
>where the word comes from. Please explain and while your at
>it, trace your bloodline. Last time I checked ANYONE could
>convert to Judaism.
>So how does that make you jewish by heritage. Hmm?

Easily enough, to be Jewish by heritage means that one is descendant from the Jews of Europe, but because of his upbringing doesn't practice judaism as a religion.

is it that hard to understand?

And my bloodline goes back to the Kantors of Warsaw.

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AquamansWrath
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24. "RE: Why Can't People Acccept that Jesus was African?"
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Um, Judaism didn't start in Europe.
Wrong answer, try again.
Also, you sound like your either of Armenian, Polish, or Turkish decent...
sorry to break the news to you... but they are converts.
Jew-ish.. kind of Jew. Hence the ish.
So if your Christianish... your a kind of Christian
Eddie Murphyish... it's kinda Ed Murphy.

  

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25. "LOL!"
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>Jew-ish.. kind of Jew. Hence the ish.

Tenuous-ish

  

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27. "RE: LOL!"
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None of ya'll have proven me otherwise outside of your typical 'whoah is me, I'm god's children' rhetoric. not a damn thing to back up anything you have said.
I expect that tho'.

  

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31. "But"
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I haven't tried to..

  

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32. "RE: But"
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Perhaps you should...
it's really easy to criticize... especially when you haven't done much to prove your point. At all.
I have made several points.
your turn.

  

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264. "hmmmmm ... so are you saying ..."
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>Also, you sound like your either of Armenian, Polish, or
>Turkish decent...
>sorry to break the news to you... but they are converts.


are you saying that ALL European jews were converts? That diaspora doesn't exist through physical migration but a line of conversions spanning continents?

~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
who are you









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AquamansWrath
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276. "RE: hmmmmm ... so are you saying ..."
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No... my point is migration of coverts... they could even be generational converts... but they are NOT the original jews...
they were African. Point of the post.
Obviously they migrated... if they are from Europe and ended up elsewhere.

  

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188. "RE: Why Can't People Acccept that Jesus was African?"
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>Jewish by heritage... hahaha...
>so how do you get a race of people out of Judaism.

Look up Endogamy....

Please explain and while your at
>it, trace your bloodline.

I did. It goes A long long way back. Bear in mind that many Jews didnt have surnames until about 300 years ago....

Last time I checked ANYONE could
>convert to Judaism.

You didnt check very hard. Its difficult to convert to Judaism and orthodox jews are unlikely to accept you...

>So how does that make you jewish by heritage. Hmm?

Look up endogamy.

"This isnt an argument, you are just contradicting everything Im saying"

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AquamansWrath
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195. "Jesus, the Beautiful Black MAN."
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Again since you don't get it...
anyone can convert to Judaism... to say you are born jewish... is like saying you were born Muslim or Christian... it's not a birthright or a race... it's a religion... that's why you have a book to go with it... it's bullshit sun. Your suggesting that Jews are pure... and you sound like Hitler with that bullshit. Please. The first jews were black... just open up the Torah... the Bible and the Koran... check the location... weigh that against the time period and know whites had yet to enter Africa at that point... there greatest mix or understanding of Africa came from the Moor's and the Egyptians... who were Black people. I know it hurts... but please...
get over it. LOL!

  

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220. "Wrong..."
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>Again since you don't get it...
>anyone can convert to Judaism...

Nope, that isnt true. You cant convert to be an orthodox jew. They probably wont accept you.

to say you are born jewish...
>is like saying you were born Muslim or Christian...

No, because Judaism is not a proselytising religion, they arent seeking to convert people and they arent looking for converts...

it's not a
>birthright or a race... it's a religion... that's why you have
>a book to go with it... it's bullshit sun. Your suggesting
>that Jews are pure... and you sound like Hitler with that
>bullshit.

Hold on, making a lot of assumptions here. It is a birthright - if your mother is Jewish then you are Jewish. It is also an ethnicity (race is a bullshit term), which is relativelyt endogamous (a term I am sure you didnt look up). Now I didnt say they were pure, all I have said over and over again on this site, is that Jews historically prefer to marry/have sex with other Jews. This means that genetically, Jews are more similar to each other than to surrounding peoples, even if some mixing has gone on. And watch who you are saying sounds like Hitler, if you are trying to 'build' and not offend that is...


Please. The first jews were black... just open up
>the Torah... the Bible and the Koran... check the location...
>weigh that against the time period and know whites had yet to
>enter Africa at that point... there greatest mix or
>understanding of Africa came from the Moor's and the
>Egyptians... who were Black people. I know it hurts... but
>please...

Where is the proof? The location was the middle east, somewhere where there arent that many black people. The time was 5000 years ago onwards. Christianity was two thousand and Islam was 632 CE. White people had been trading with North Africa since pre-history pretty much. Moors and Nubians were black, but most Egyptians werent black to my knowledge.

>get over it. LOL!

LOL indeed. I want some PROOF, that comes from a SOURCE, not from your spurious "reasoning".

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The Hammer Man
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224. "RE: Wrong..."
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..yeah but the thing you have to understand if you don't already, is why Jews create resentment in Europe and/or the states. wait a minute that probably sounds a bit off, since i'm not Jewish, maybe you should explain it to me.

...guess what, you can't swing in scotland either.

  

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229. "RE: Wrong..."
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>..yeah but the thing you have to understand if you don't
>already, is why Jews create resentment in Europe and/or the
>states. wait a minute that probably sounds a bit off, since
>i'm not Jewish, maybe you should explain it to me.

What does that have to do with whether or not Jesus was black or Jews were black?

Sean

  

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230. "RE: Wrong..."
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...what? i guess it's a jewish question. i mean i know the Jewish authorities ain't too keen on Black Jews anyway so maybe it's just a point.

...guess what, you can't swing in scotland either.

  

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233. "RE: Wrong..."
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But you see the Jews were black...
so the logic of the question doesn't even work. At all.

  

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238. "RE: Wrong..."
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>But you see the Jews were black...
>so the logic of the question doesn't even work. At all.

Which you haven't proven by the way. So good try, bad execution.

Sean

  

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239. "RE: Wrong..."
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>...what? i guess it's a jewish question. i mean i know the
>Jewish authorities ain't too keen on Black Jews anyway so
>maybe it's just a point.

Last time I checked Jews have flown thousands of starving Ethiopian Jews to Israel, given them citizenship and jobs.

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454. "RE: Wrong..."
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the ethiopian jews are also treated like second class citizens, relagated to a small community around tel aviv, and still not given full citizenship. the jobs they get are crap. don't make it seem like the great loving Iraeli government is doing them a huge favor, the government never has wanted to bring over Ethiopian Jews to Israel.


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457. "Exactly."
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Jews are some of the most racist people i have ever encountered... on the real... no to generalize, but their elitism is unreal... it's often younger jews that are on some normal action... or jews in entertainment... but even that is to a point... the very fact any man would look me in the eyes and tell me God has chosen him over me is crazy... why isn't this viewed as basic fanaticism? Cause this gives them the right to do anything... it really makes you wonder.

  

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464. "well, to be fair..."
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yeah the Ethiopian Jews are largely treated pretty shabbily in Israel, and there was a lot of reluctance in the Israeli government to bring them over... but at the end of the day they did it, which is more than you can say for most other countries. Including Ethiopia, which treated them worse than Israel does.

And they are given full citizenship - you're probably thinking of the Black Hebrew Israelites who moved from the US to Israel in the 70's or something, they were given residence but not citizenship, although I think recently some of them were granted citizenship.

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465. "RE: well, to be fair..."
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I'm interested in knowing...
so your familiar with the way Ethiopia treated the original Black Jews... but your not familiar with how Israel did it? Why am I not buying this?
I know plenty of Ethiopian Jews and that's not what I have heard... the legacy is strong there. It's mainly Catholic Whites who have pushed for them to not be heard... sound familiar?

  

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469. "RE: well, to be fair..."
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>I'm interested in knowing...
>so your familiar with the way Ethiopia treated the original
>Black Jews... but your not familiar with how Israel did it?
>Why am I not buying this?

What part of "the Ethiopian Jews are largely treated pretty shabbily in Israel" did you not understand?

>I know plenty of Ethiopian Jews and that's not what I have
>heard...

It's funny how you always seem to know plenty of every random-ass group anyone is talking about. I could probably say "outer Mongolian nomad yak-herders are increasingly migrating towards Ulaan-Baatar for better economic opportunities", and you'd be like "I know plenty of outer Mongolian nomad yak-herders, and that's not what I have heard..."

the legacy is strong there. It's mainly Catholic
>Whites who have pushed for them to not be heard... sound
>familiar?

Yeah, because it's mainly white Catholics who control internal policy in Israel - LOL.

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473. "RE: well, to be fair..."
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random ass? Ethiopian Jews is pretty specific my man.
Um... so if I know European Jews... I shouldn't by chance know any African Jews? hahaha... wow. Peace bruh.

  

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495. "there are *very* few Ethiopian Jews in this country"
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so I'm wondering how you just happen to know so many of them.

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500. "Um.. do you know any at all?"
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Or their history? I think that's the real question here...
not who I am or where I be...

  

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503. "not personally, no"
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and I'm Ethiopian... which is why I find it strange that you seem to know so many.

>Or their history? I think that's the real question here...
>not who I am or where I be...

Yes I know their history. Do you? Because THEY don't even make the claims about their own history that you do.

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514. "RE: not personally, no"
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Please... that is total bullshit. Hahaha...
got talk to any Rastafarian for the updates...
Being Ethiopian really don't mean shit... there are plenty of blacks who have detached themselves from their own neighborhoods...
their are plenty of blacks who support Bush...
would i call them blacks or ask them to rep the voice of the black people? Nope.
You wonder how I know so many of them? You sound white to me with that statement alone. I mean, what is there suppossed to be a Ethiopian outlet? I know them cause I know them... from my travels... from my whereabouts... there was no 'you too can know Africans' formula. Besides I leave for Africa tomorrow potnah... I'll fill you in when I get back.

  

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551. "RE: not personally, no"
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>Please... that is total bullshit. Hahaha...
>got talk to any Rastafarian for the updates...

LOL - just cuz Rastas talk about the Star of David and Lion of Judah doesn't mean they know anything about this.

>Being Ethiopian really don't mean shit... there are plenty of blacks
>who have detached themselves from their own neighborhoods...

Being Ethiopian means something about knowing other Ethiopians, including knowing when people like you are bullshitting about it.

>their are plenty of blacks who support Bush...
>would i call them blacks or ask them to rep the voice of the black people? Nope.

And there are plenty of crazy people who think shape-shifting alien lizards secretly run the world. Would I ask them for a rational answer to ANYTHING? Nope.

>You wonder how I know so many of them? You sound white to me with that statement alone.

No, I sound like someone who actually knows enough about them to call you out on your bullshit. Sounding white would be gushing over with Bono-worship like you.

>I mean, what is there suppossed to be a Ethiopian outlet? I know them cause I know them...
>from my travels... from my whereabouts...

nice bullshit answer.

>there was no 'you too can know Africans' formula. Besides I leave for Africa tomorrow potnah...
>I'll fill you in when I get back.

With more of your ignorant bullshit? No thanks.

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235. "I don't, explain."
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...

"This isnt an argument, you are just contradicting everything Im saying"

"No Im not"
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240. "RE: I don't, explain."
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..well i guess i'm just ignorant and pissed at being called anti-semitic.

...guess what, you can't swing in scotland either.

  

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521. "RE: Wrong..."
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"but most Egyptians werent black to my knowledge."

what the mutha!!!!!! All Egyptians are black. All Egyptians are African! Do u mean all Egyptians aren't darkskin? In that case...

  

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that's what I'm sayin... these cats must be using Disney logic to come to their conclusions... how on earth could they not know Egyptians are black AFricans? It's common sense...its' Northern Africa?!?!?!

  

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149. "Alas!!! Someone finally said it..."
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Haile Selassie was indeed a mass murderer, yet so many people look up to him as the greatest African ruler.

  

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153. "RE: Alas!!! Someone finally said it..."
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Halie Salassie was many things...
but didn't your very bible say that he would be a warrior?
I'm not saying he is exempt of anything...
many of the same people listed in history were mass murderers...
I mean I have heard many stories about the hunger and poverty that existed under his rule...
I'm not a fan of speaking to the UN and rubbing elbows with them either...
however you cannot discredit the man's influence.

  

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161. "RE: Alas!!! Someone finally said it..."
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>Halie Salassie was many things...
>but didn't your very bible say that he would be a warrior?
>I'm not saying he is exempt of anything...
>many of the same people listed in history were mass
>murderers...
>I mean I have heard many stories about the hunger and poverty
>that existed under his rule...
>I'm not a fan of speaking to the UN and rubbing elbows with
>them either...
>however you cannot discredit the man's influence.


Warriors are just. Warriors don't massacre people because they refuse to accept them as divine. Warriors don't massacre people because those people won't speak their language.

You're an apologist. Like a Nazi apologist, a colonial apologist, an apologist for slave holders.

'Well... he made the trains run on time...'

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169. "RE: Alas!!! Someone finally said it..."
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please, what you said was straight bullshit.. the code of warriors are different depending on the culture... that's A)
B) everything you said afterthat.. is some dumb ass rant...
I'm an apologist? hahaha... anyone who knows anything about me knows that I don't apologize or make up excuses for anyone...
including you.

  

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176. "RE: Alas!!! Someone finally said it..."
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>the code of
>warriors are different depending on the culture...

Oh that must be it. Some people accept warriors killing women and children... like you. Some people think people who kill women and children are are vile disgusting human beings, no matter what their skin color is.

So, in recap, you accept murders because of their skin color, I don't. You accept people who try to destroy races and cultures because of their skin color. I don't. You accept brutal fucking dictators whose ignorance has given the people of their land years of famine and war, because of their skin color.

Dumbest. motherfucker. on. the. boards.

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184. "RE: Alas!!! Someone finally said it..."
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Are you talking about Ariel Sharon & G.W. Bush...It sure sounds like it. LOL


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200. "RE: Alas!!! Someone finally said it..."
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No... not at all... you don't have to put words in my mouth... I can perfectly explain my position... I don't justify mass murder from anyone... although the thought of you being caught up in that is bringing a slight smirk around...
Okay brightspot... site your Hallie Salassie example of him being a mass murderer complete with times and dates...
cause if your talking Mass MURDER then your obviously talking
ARIEL SHARON
GEORGE BUSH...
I would LOVE for you to try and lump the lion of Judah in with them.
Go ahead... make a fool out of yourself.

  

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245. "hahahahahahahahaahah"
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Thats funny... because I'm Jewish by heritage... and I am so
>white I glow in the fucking dark.


classic


>The first jews were Ethiopian.
>
>Thats funny... because I'm Jewish by heritage... and I am so
>white I glow in the fucking dark. I'm so white I thought
>'Lucas with the lid of" was the jam of the century (still do
>personally).
>
>And wait... whats that... oh yeah... you're 'proof' stories
>and bullshit. Not keeping with any historical record or even
>spoken history other than that which was fabricated by that
>mass murderer Haillie Sallasie
>
>S.ean | President of the 'Ban Chris Defendorf' club. We have
>meetings.

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254. "RE: hahahahahahahahaahah"
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You and what you believe to be "Your" heritage... don't matter.
The first Africans were black... that's right... all the cats you worship are black... now how does that make you feel? I know you worsthip black men in hiphop, sports, and entertainment in general... but how does it feel to know that the person you have been praying to... is black? Will that change things? Does that make you feel, jipped? Are blacks not privy to your children of god racket?

  

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256. "RE: hahahahahahahahaahah"
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..question is would you really want it if the boys are that uptight?

...guess what, you can't swing in scotland either.

  

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hahaha... true and good point...
but I just think that brothers would handle it better that's all...
hell we already know it and never say it... namean?

  

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358. "there were all kinds of jews"
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and still are...

due to migrations and intermingling, a whole lot of jews wound up white and "brown". consider the history of arab groups & the hyksos in egypt, for example.

either way, there were definitely african jews and they were mainly a "colored" people up to a certain point in history. that's been well-documented to my knowledge.

even israel wound up having to accept a group of african hebrews (and, no, i'm not talking about the hebrew israelites) as "true" jews. i don't know jewish history as such. this is just what i've picked up from reading about black african history. i can come back & site some works if you're interested.

also consider all the images of the black madonna prominent in early christianity & the africanization of all 3 major western religions (coptic christianity, mingling of africans/arabs, etc).

either way, even if jesus wasn't "black", it's more likely than the probability of him being lily-white.

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360. "RE: there were all kinds of jews"
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Your always a slight dissapointment cause you always give white people more power than they ever deserve. For example... you act as if Israel (being the murderers that they are) have any power in acknowledging anyone... which simply isn't the case. They are false jews... in testament... so who cares who they acknowledge? Let the murder of Palestinian women and children alone show you that.
Second, there was not always different kinds of Jews... that's a lie and an assumption that's not accurate. The first set of Jews were black... Ethiopians... that is well documented. Many, many years later... whites began to convert... what you are doing is trying to bring smoke and mirrors into the picture by not being clear, there were always white, brown... no... there was a starting point... and it began in Ethiopia. This is noted in so many ways it's amazing anyone is even questioning it...
They were the real jews. These Europeans claiming to be Jews and even claiming black people's history in the Torah and the Old Testament... aint nothing more than lovers of the game. Like Blues... Jazz... Hiphop... and all powerful things that come from black minds, hands, and hearts namean?
Peace.

  

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361. "whatever."
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first of all, don't assume u know my feelings on any of the above, especially concerning yt folks' power. i have no love for the state of israel, either. i only said that to make a point.

secondly, i could give a damn about ANY of this. i was just trying to bring a little perspective from what little i know thru my studies/reading.

everything in balance. yes, blk people are/were greater than many know. but i've taken issue with some of your claims for the same reasons others have.

so...


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messiah like that stranger may be
yours. who holds the subtle knife that
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362. "RE: whatever."
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like?
this isn't a personal attack on you... but on the real it doesn't matter what they question... the real is the real... you and I both know white folks want to be everything from Superman, to the One in the Matrix, to Jesus, to the greatest quarterback that ever lived... whether done correctly or not. This aint no different, but it doesn't matter cause you can't argue facts. The first jews were from Ethiopia... there were no white cats running around Ethiopia... namean? Even the Pontius Pilot courtroom scene is straight out of the white man's handbook thinking everybody looks alike. It's MAD obvious...

  

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363. "RE: whatever."
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also... I always appreciate your input... but what is this meek shit?

  

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365. "meek?"
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no, not really. i'm just wary of how i choose/frame my words.

prefer to catch my flies with honey.

peace.


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yours. who holds the subtle knife that
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373. "RE: meek?"
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play that honey shit and more people get confused...
your not dealing with bees... your dealing with savages who have controlled the world with lies and manipulation... it's time to stop being sweet about this shit.
Be real, direct... and to the point. Call them out at ever opportunity... if you don't... it will only get worse. If we don't straighten this shit out... what do we expect our babies to do?

  

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383. "i don't pick this battle."
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when people try to appropriate (objective) history, i get to calling folks out.

when they try to tell me my ppl were nothing before europe entered the scene, i will challenge that.

likewise, i will challenge anyone who tries to say that african culture was/is somehow inferior by nature. or who claims that one diasporan is better than another. in my book, if you're black, you're african (c) peter tosh.

however, using faith as a battleground divides more than it unifies. within "our" community and outside of it. just look at what the right wing is doing to this country as we speak.

hell, if you *really* want to get technical, whether or not jesus was black has zilch to do with the deeper consequences of adhering to this philsophy/faith as a people. i'd rather build on that than what the man looked like.

imo, we can work this kind of thing out once we get our collective shit together. before then, jesus' blackness is a moot point.

just my two cents.


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messiah like that stranger may be
yours. who holds the subtle knife that
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386. "RE: i don't pick this battle."
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Actually i disagree fully... cause the fact that he was African... well that means his philosophies were also... in fact, if you study much of the propehts... and thier learning centers.. it was purely AFrican... Europeans who have white washed the history love to downplay this culture and make it universal... but it wasn't... there are accounts in the Bible where christ refused to heal certain people and even attacked others... you see? My point? This concept that his comments were above and beyond humans is bs... it's been conditioned in us to believe that this is the case so that once the truth is revealed there is no impact. How tired is it when people say... 'oh... it doesn't matter' clearly it does matter. Whites will say that as a quick out... blacks will say that cause they often soften the blow for their white colleagues and friends... it shouldn't take a deliberate red flag with racism written on it for us to notice our history being dumbed down. It's like I always say... people expect racism to come in the form of a Klansman with a firey cross... but what bout the priest with a regular one?

  

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390. "we're basically saying the same thing"
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>It's like I always say... people expect racism to come
>in the form of a Klansman with a firey cross... but what bout
>the priest with a regular one?

in so many words, anyway...

but that's what i mean. the hijacking of religion/spirituality as a whole is the REAL issue, imo, whether jesus was african, arab, or norwegian.

i also understand your point about history. but again: arguing the color of a person who may or may not have even lived is far less important to me than making sure people know black people really did build the pyramids and understood representative democracy.

agree to disagree.

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messiah like that stranger may be
yours. who holds the subtle knife that
carves through worlds like magic
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397. "No..."
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I agree... and why I think your argument about the pyramids is solid is cause it still stands... the Bible... I feel your point... if he did exist.. .he was black... I think any black man or woman who reads the Bible fully... understands the components that make it work... can read and know he was black... it's like reading any post or comment from a black person and saying 'you know what? that cat is a brotha!'... it's just obvious.. namean? Whites love to romanticize and they want you to believe without question that he is there link... or he is one of them... it's the continued dominant logic that had the slaves picking cotton even faster. on the real.. somebody bring a white jesus in my crib... and there will be a real fucking problem. Here's my issue with the pyramids that ties into this... we have allowed whites to demonize their power, through film, through the media... the flip of what they did to Christ... feel me?
That's why they are stuck on stupid... films like the Mummy and dumb ass Disney films depicting them as worshipping devils... cause they would much rather be privy to that ancient knowledge and exploit it for their own purposes and meanwhile have people of color saying dumb ass christian shit like "oh I don't deal with witchcraft!" or.. "Astrology is from the Devil". Only if it's the Roman Calender.

  

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19. "........"
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First things first. Do you accept the bible as Gods word? If you don't, then we have nothing to talk about.

"I'm scientific, but my reflex gangsta"- Black Thought

  

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21. "RE: ........"
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Is this your logic? Please tell me your playing?
I see now that your backed into a corner... you wanna play God?
God didn't write the Bible... and PLEASe don't tell me he did.
Old Testament is in Hebrew taken from the Torah... so if you follow that you must follow Judaism which is where JEWS come from.

New Testament is in Greek. So now God prefers a certain language?
Please tell me this isn't your logic.

  

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26. "Seriously"
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God did not physically write the bible. He dictated to his servants what he wanted to be put down. From Moses writing Genesis all the way to the apostle John writing Revelation.

The bible is not from the Torah. It is a stand-alone testament of Hebrew and Greek scriptures. If you want to get seriously in depth, tommorw I can bring references of books you can read and verify yourself. Real books at your local library or Barnes & Nobles, no made up sites on-line.

And I'm also a black man my brother, all the way live from Baltimore City homey. But that doesn't mean I feed into Islam or any of that 1 percent stuff. I found the truth for myself by looking it up on my own. Not because someone told me a convincing story.

"I'm scientific, but my reflex gangsta"- Black Thought

  

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28. "?"
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>I found the truth for myself
>by looking it up on my own. Not because someone told me a
>convincing story.

Isn't the bible a book of convincing stories?

  

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is the Torah or the Bible a book of convincing stories?
Please fill me in.

  

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34. "Because"
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they contain fictional narratives, written by man to propound a moral order, to make sense of the Universe etc.

  

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So your saying the Bible is fictional stories? Not agreeing or disagreeing, just trying to clarify.

  

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39. "Is this a trap?!"
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Yes I am

  

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35. "RE: ?"
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I have a deep faith in God and that the Bible is his word. It's not just a book of moral paramaters, but more importantly a book of prophecy. If you don't believe that the Bible is God's word, then nothing I say will apply to you.

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Hey God's child... how about answering my question about the author's of the Bible. If you believe in the word... then tell me who wrote the Old Testament and the New Testament.
Thanks.

  

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50. "Does this help?"
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HEBREW SCRIPTURES

GENESIS - Moses
EXODOUS - Moses
LEVITICUS - Moses
NUMBERS - Moses
DEUTERONOMY - Moses
JOSHUA - Joshua
JUDGES - Samuel
RUTH - Samuel
1 SAMUEL - Samuel, Gad, Nathan
2 SAMUEL - Gad, Nathan
1 KINGS - Jeremiah
2 KINGS - Jeremiah
1 CHRONICLES - Ezra
2 CHRONICLES - Ezra
EZRA - Ezra
NEHEMIAH - Nehemiah
ESTHER - Mordecai
JOB - Moses
PSALMS - David and others (too many to type)
PROVERBS - Solomon, Agur, Lemuel
ECCLESIASTES - Solomon
SONG OF SOLOMON - Solomon
ISAIAH - Isaiah
JEREMIAH - Jeremiah
LAMENTATIONS - Jeremiah
EZEKIEL - Ezekiel
DANIEL - Daniel
HOSEA - Hosea
JOEL - Joel
AMOS - Amos
OBADIAH - Obadiah
JONAH - Jonah
MICAH - Micah
NAHUM - Nahum
HABAKKUK - Habakkuk
ZEPHANIAH - Zephaniah
HAGGAI - Haggai
ZECHARIAH - Zechariah
MALACHI - Malachi



GREEK SCRIPTURES

MATTHEW - Matthew
MARK - Mark
LUKE - Luke
JOHN - Apostle John
ACTS - Luke
ROMANS - Paul
1 CORINTHIANS - Paul
2 CORINTHIANS - Paul
GALATIANS - Paul
EPHESIANS - Paul
PHILLIPIANS - Paul
COLOSSIANS - Paul
1 THESSALONIANS - Paul
2 THESSALONIANS - Paul
1 TIMOTHY - Paul
2 TIMOTHY - Paul
TITUS - Paul
PHILEMON - Paul
HEBREWS - Paul
JAMES - James (Jesus' Brother)
1 PETER - Peter
2 PETER - Peter
1 JOHN - Apostle John
2 JOHN - Apostle John
3 JOHN - Apostle John
JUDE - Jude (Jesus' brother)
REVELATION - Apostle John



Sorry my response took so long. It takes a while to type the names of the 66 books of the Bible and the people who wrote them through divine inspiration. They were inspired to write by the holy spirit of God himself. Now if that's too steep for you to believe, than your post is invalid at best. Seeing how you obviously believe in Jesus, the only begotten son of God being sent to Earth as a ransom sacrifice. I would love to keep ranting, but I'm off work now. I'll bring my material tommorow Mr. scholar.







































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53. "This ought to be interesting..."
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>Sorry my response took so long. It takes a while to type the
>names of the 66 books of the Bible and the people who wrote
>them through divine inspiration. They were inspired to write
>by the holy spirit of God himself. Now if that's too steep for
>you to believe, than your post is invalid at best. Seeing how
>you obviously believe in Jesus, the only begotten son of God
>being sent to Earth as a ransom sacrifice. I would love to
>keep ranting, but I'm off work now. I'll bring my material
>tommorow Mr. scholar.

I'll be watching tomorrow for sure...

PEACE

"Is it not one father that all of us have? Is it not one God that has created us? Why is it that we deal treacherously with one another?" --Malachi 2:10

  

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330. "RE: Does this help?"
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fyi, it is well noted that the apostles did not write ANY of the 4 Gospels themselves. The books were written at a minimum of 60 years after the passing of the Messiah. Bible scholars know and accept this. The names of the apostles were used to provide credibility as authors. Some of the gospels share the same source text. If you research New Testament Bible history enough, you'll find this to be true. Give me 2 days to actually provide my references. The current Christian bible was compiled due to a number of decisions at the Counil of Nicea by the Catholic Church, and numerous other gospel accounts were omitted for varying reasons.

my 10 cents.

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348. "RE: Does this help?"
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Yes... the names were changed...
the Romans worshipped Zeus for example...
Spanish is of Latin origin... hence the name Je-Zeus...
these names weren't accurate at all... but that's common sense too... any man that thinks that there were white boys running around Africa dropping knowledge with names like Peter and Paul are out of their damn minds. Word. Even more so if you read the old testament and names like Abraham and Noah exist.

  

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359. "he's right tho"
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i mean, you're not going to argue down his faith, so there's no point in continuing the conversation on that particular level.

he's accepted the bible as god's only true testament. end of story. that automatically renders certain convos/viewpoints null and void.



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messiah like that stranger may be
yours. who holds the subtle knife that
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366. "RE: he's right tho"
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How is he right? I never argued the man's faith... just his facts... he brought up his faith as all Christians do when they realize they don't know what their talking about. it's like bringing up Astrology they quick to say 'well... you do believe in god don't you?' it's apples and oranges... and to the blind it feels the same.

  

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368. "to him, the bible IS facts."
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that's my point.

it's not that they don't know what they're talking about, it's just that their sources aren't going to be as objective or as expansive as yours.

e.g., you could argue the findings of one christian scholar over another, but anything outside is going to carry a certain level of "heresy".

feel me?

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messiah like that stranger may be
yours. who holds the subtle knife that
carves through worlds like magic
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369. "RE: to him, the bible IS facts."
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...guess what, you can't swing in scotland either.

  

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374. "RE: to him, the bible IS facts."
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I do feel you...
I do trust... but how neurotic is that... here is the funny part... this post isn't based on facts per se... it's based on logic... and logic concludes that if everything went down the way they say it did... then judging from location (even if you took that alone) that would almost 100 percent indicate he was black... for example... Jews know their history, or the history of the people they worship, is in Africa, Ethiopia. They know this... they are playing 'Batman' and 'superman' if they think for one second that somehow... in all of africa... the one cat that was the leader was white. it's your typical Tarzan complex... now as far as the info in the Bible... that's up to the person and thier faith... but regardless of what they believe that doesn't make it true... whether they believe that shit in their heart or not... the reality is we were not there... no one was... namean?

  

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382. "faith & logic = apples & oranges"
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i mean, faith kind of precludes logic by definition, right?

you can't really argue the two together.


> but regardless of
>what they believe that doesn't make it true... whether they
>believe that shit in their heart or not... the reality is we
>were not there... no one was... namean?

that point can be used to support as well as refute your argument here.



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messiah like that stranger may be
yours. who holds the subtle knife that
carves through worlds like magic
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387. "RE: faith & logic = apples & oranges"
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Actually you can... remove faith from the equation...
use basic math...
how is it... when you talk Confuscious... you automatically know he was surrounded by Asians...
you talk Krishna... you know Indians?
you talk Richard the Lionhearted you know Europeans...
then you talk Biblical Africa and it's a question? How does this work?

  

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391. "all right."
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i see what you're saying.

but that part of the world at that time was a melting pot. egypt & ethiopia weren't what they were, phenotypically speaking, a thousand or even a few hundred years before christ's birth.

he could have looked like a lot of different people. just like blk americans do today.

again, i'm not disagreeing with you as such. i don't think jesus could have been anything approaching "lily white" as he is often depicted in the western world today.

BUT it is possibile that he was closer to, say, greek or spanish-looking than straight-up african.

there was just too much miscegenation going on not to take that into account.

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messiah like that stranger may be
yours. who holds the subtle knife that
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422. "Actually not true..."
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Egypt only allowed Greeks in... hence the mystery school systems...
they did not allow people in the way movies depict... Egypt was basically a huge university... and Ethiopia was untrekked land...
so this isn't true at all... your talking about a trek from Europe across Africa into E. Africa... on foot... was not happening. They would have gotten dealt with long before they arrived.

  

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466. "i don't know who you're reading"
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but i'd like to see some of their maps/conclusions. you're contradicting quite a bit of the afrocentric (not to mention "regular") history i've come across.

>Egypt only allowed Greeks in... hence the mystery school
>systems...

egypt allowed everybody in. traders, etc.
yes, things differ depending on the time period you're talking about, but still...

i'd have to come back to cite a few sources, but egypt was, except in the earliest times, a sort of cultural crossroads. particularly lower (northern) egypt. different "races" had possession of the monarchy at different times, etc.

e.g., we used to swear one of my teachers in h.s. up & down that cleopatra was black. he told us she was, if anything, 1/2 black and 1/2 greek. we called bullshit. since i've actually studied african history, i now realize he was probably right, given the time period when she ruled. not that there weren't many, many other obviously black queens/pharoahs. she just probably wasn't one of them.

would she be considered "black" if we saw her on the street today? maybe. i'm just trying to point out the fluidity of the situation.

you also have to figure out what you're classifying as egypt. that can also differ significantly depending on the time period/dynasty you're talking about.


>they did not allow people in the way movies depict... Egypt
>was basically a huge university... and Ethiopia was untrekked
>land...

right. a huge university. anyone could study there.

*parts* of ethiopia (as we know it today) were "untrekked". other parts were not. there were wars fought, invasions, etc. plus, ethiopia borders water. trade routes.

the traditional borders of modern egypt, sudan, and ethiopia were defined by the cataracts in some way or another up until the division of africa w/ the rise of slavery/colonization.


>so this isn't true at all... your talking about a trek from
>Europe across Africa into E. Africa... on foot... was not
>happening. They would have gotten dealt with long before they
>arrived.

i'm not talking about europe. nothing in the bible--to my knowledge--took place that far north. but certainly you have to consider the middle east & the mediterranean. and some of those people are very "white"-looking.

and many ppl traveled by other means than on foot.

...and how do you mean "dealt with?" african society/culture has always, to some degree, been quite inclusive. it's been part of the nature of our downfall, to hear some tell it.

after the migrations and the fall of some of the great african civilizations (egypt/kemet, nubia, etc.), yes, there were groups determined to keep "white" and other folks out. but that inclination took centuries of warfare & conflict to manifest. generally, there was sort of a "come on in!" policy loooong before christ came on the scene. so imagine what it must have looked like by the time he got there.

again, i'm not disagreeing w/ you totally, but you seem to have a rather skewed idea of what these areas looked like by the time christ was born.

  

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467. "Dr. Naeem Akbar/ I mean your still quesitoning CLEO? Really?"
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and your questioning what I'm reading?
Sighs...

and your questioning whether or not Egypt was a university?
wow.

REad some work by Dr. Naeem Akbar... for starters.
I mean half your comments were guesses... right?

For the record she was black.


  

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480. "yo..."
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>and your questioning what I'm reading?
>Sighs...

i was just asking about which historians you're reading. drawing from my knowledge to this point, i don't see where you're getting some of this from.

i'm totally open/willing to be corrected. i learn something new daily. but--going back to the original intent--very little in this post "proves" anything. on either side.

we're arguing the phenotypical appearance of a man who may or may not have existed.

and we already agree that, whether or not he did, the important thing is the lessons he taught/embodied.

again, i have admitted that i figure he was most likely a black man or something damn close to it.

what more is there to say? *shrug*


>and your questioning whether or not Egypt was a university?
>wow.

re-read what i said in my last post:

you: "they did not allow people in the way movies depict... Egypt
was basically a huge university... and Ethiopia was untrekked land..."

me: "right. a huge university. anyone could study there."

i agreed with you.
just about every serious student of history, racist or not, realizes that egypt/kemet was one of the major educational centers of the ancient world. they might question who was doing the teaching, but...


>REad some work by Dr. Naeem Akbar... for starters.

i have, actually. i own both "breaking the chains..." and "know thy self". i dig dude, plan on reading more. but his perspective is psychology, not a history as such.


>I mean half your comments were guesses... right?

no, i was not guessing. i was drawing on what i know based on my studies/readings to this point.


>For the record she was black.

have you seen any alternative drawings/representations of her? from everything i've seen, she looks like she's probably of mixed heritage. wasn't her father ptolemy? as far as i know, it's well-known that he was of an afro-asian-greek (or some other mix) line. i don't know anything about her mother.

regardless, i really don't care whether she was or not. there are plenty of examples of black, illustrious royalty in kemet & elsewhere. one questionable queen doesn't really matter one way or the other to me. i'm just open to the *possibility* that she wasn't necessarily black.

*everybody* ain't black
just like everybody ain't descended from royalty.

it's cool. we have PLENTY we can claim clearly & rightfully. no need to waste time haggling over petty details.


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484. "I feel you.."
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and I apologize for jumping to conclusions...
but you have to know, no not everyone could study in Egypt. That's not true... there was a rigorous process to even be accepted and the only outside studies they offered were to the Greeks...
read anything by Dr. Naeem Akbar, the world's leading Egyptologist. That can break a lot down, he has a lot of books, lectures, pamphlets, DVD's, CD's you name it. Had a chance of seeing him and building with him for three days about Free Energy Concepts in Egypt vs. Nikoli Tesla's Theories on Free Energy. Great conversation...
horrible coffee. Damn UDC. Smile.

  

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492. "oh. wrong author."
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>read anything by Dr. Naeem Akbar, the world's leading
>Egyptologist. That can break a lot down, he has a lot of
>books, lectures, pamphlets, DVD's, CD's you name it. Had a
>chance of seeing him and building with him for three days
>about Free Energy Concepts in Egypt vs. Nikoli Tesla's
>Theories on Free Energy. Great conversation...
>horrible coffee. Damn UDC. Smile.

i'm doing a google search & i'm not seeing him, but i'll ask around.

finding quite a bit on nikoli tesla tho.



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497. "...and by the way"
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came across this:
http://wysinger.homestead.com/candace.html

"Roman involvement in the affairs of Africa progressively increased during the course of the first century B.C.E., particularly after Ptolemy XII Auletes secured financial and military support from Rome in his successful bid to reestablish himself as pharaoh of Egypt, having been forced into exile by a rival faction. Upon his death in 51 B.C.E. he bequeathed his kingdom to his daughter, Cleopatra VII, and her much younger brother, Ptolemy XIII. Of Cleopatra's direct ancestors, only the identity of her maternal grandmother remains unknown, and there is no compelling evidence to suggest that she was either an Egyptian or a Nubian. All of Cleopatra VII's other forebears were of Macedonian Greek descent. The account of her spectacular rise to power and her relationships with Julius Caesar and Marc Antony are beyond the scope of this narrative, but her ultimate confrontation with Octavian at the Battle of Actium in 31 B.C.E. and suicide a year later enabled the Romans to gain possession of Egypt."

so i don't know about cleopatras 1-6, but the "famous" one probably wasn't a black woman.

*shrug*

  

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41. "Fair point"
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43. "RE: Fair point"
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Fair point? Nah, that's rhetoric. Make a claim, back it up.
That simple.

  

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48. "Thanks for the schooling"
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>Fair point? Nah, that's rhetoric. Make a claim, back it up.
>That simple.

I wrote fair point in recognition of Shakeet's point that given the fundamental difference between the foundation of his belief and mine, there is no point in arguing.

I think you are following a trivial line of argument. Do you think I give a fuck whether a fairytale character is black or white? But if it helps your libido, then fine, I too think he is black.

  

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88. "RE: Thanks for the schooling"
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Now that was funny.

  

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93. "could you not disrespect someone elses faith please?"
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94. "RE: could you not disrespect someone elses faith please?"
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I don't think he disrespected anyone else's faith... he didn't name any faith directly and if he doesn't believe that his right to say it and be proud of it. You shouldn't take offense.

  

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96. "thats offense but ok whatever"
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"Do you think I give a fuck whether a fairytale character is black or white? But if it helps your libido, then fine, I too think he is black"
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97. "Don't be so anal"
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If you don't want your beliefs challenged what are you doing in Okayplayer?

*The edit was in the spirit of being less confrontational*

  

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98. "RE: thats offense but ok whatever"
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yeah and... perhaps you should accept the fact that everyone is not Christian... and he has the right to say what he likes... again, he's not pointing you out.. .he's speaking on a general subject.. you may be christian but you don't own christ or his image... in fact, christians are largely responsible for not questioning why the Eurochrist is so popular when it's a lie... he has a right to speak on it Sun. Again, he's not pointing out your denomination, or church, or anything... I think your being overly sensitive on this.
With all respect due... there are MANY people who think the Bible and Christianity is nothing more than a political tool.

  

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193. "How is that offensive?"
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"I liked it," Gilliam said of playing gunner on punt team. "It was the first time I did anything like that. It was fun. It felt like, if he wasn't fair catching it, he was disrespecting me, so I was trying to take a head off if I could." Response-ability

  

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197. "Exactly."
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Same thing I said... I don't see it...
he's being sensitive and while I understand and respect all religions... some people just have trouble with the truth and with their beliefs being challenged... I invite everyone to leave thier comfort zone.

  

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29. "RE: Seriously"
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REall? His servants.
Ok mate...
who wrote the Old Testament?
Now the New Testament... would love to hear how God contacted them (please point that out in the Bible as well... and I need specific locations as I will spot check it).
Cool? Your going to have to do better than phony nonsense that only works in Churches where people don't even read their bibles.

  

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40. "RE: Seriously"
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Like I said black, if you really wanna get into this, tommorow I will have references for you. I'm not gonna sit here and argue with you over it. But if you think know so much, holla at me tommorow.

"I'm scientific, but my reflex gangsta"- Black Thought

  

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42. "RE: Seriously"
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Nah never said that...
we can definitely build...
but I do know what I know.
You can't sit here and properly hold a argument about God...
namean? He hired writers? Sun he's God... if he can create the earth and the universe... he can create a book... nah. Aint adding up.
We'll build tomorrow. Peace.

  

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33. "Bethlehem is in Africa?"
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>Easily, he was born in Africa to Jewish parents.

Uh, where do you think he was born exactly? Cuz if you accept the account of his birth in Bethlehem, how is that in Africa?

>The first
>jews were Ethiopian.

No the were not. Ethiopian Jews themselves don't even claim that that.

>Now follow that bloodline all the way to
>Halei Salassie... who claimed to be decendent of King
>Soloman... all African. All the time.

First of all, that's a myth. Second of all, even if it was true it would disprove your point (look up what the story actually says)

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36. "RE: Bethlehem is in Africa?"
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Northern Africa yes.
The middle east is Africa in case you didn't know.
Ethiopian? Really, so the whole Hale Salassie thing was just one big joke heh?

  

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46. "Really? So Iraq is in Africa too?"
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>Northern Africa yes.
>The middle east is Africa in case you didn't know.

How about Iran? Where do you draw the line?

>Ethiopian? Really, so the whole Hale Salassie thing was just
>one big joke heh?

Not a joke, it's a national myth. That doesn't make it a bad thing, every nation has one. Doesn't make it true though.

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47. "RE: Really? So Iraq is in Africa too?"
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"Not a joke, it's a national myth. That doesn't make it a bad thing, every nation has one. Doesn't make it true though."-40th

Good case in point...

Question: Are there different views on that particular "myth" about Selassie though?

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55. "there might be some elements of truth behind the myth actually"
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The myth says Selassie is descended from King Solomon and the Queen of Sheba, who was an Ethiopian queen named Makeda. They had a son named Menelik, who when he came of age travelled to Jerusalem to meet Solomon, who recognized him as his son. When Menelik returned to Ethiopia he took the Ark of the Covenant with him, became the first Emperor of Ethiopia and founder of the Solominic Dynasty, all the way down to Selassie.

OK so first off, the queen of Sheba almost certainly wasn't from Ethiopia so the myth isn't literally true. BUT if there was a queen of Sheba she'd have been from Saba in south Yemen, which is where Ethiopians are descended from (in part), so there is a link there.

Also there's a theory that the Ark might actually be in Ethiopia, that it was removed from the Temple in Jerusalem to prevent it from being looted or destroyed by whoever was sacking Jerusalem at the time, and was brought into Egypt and hidden on Elephantine island in the Nile (there was in fact a Jewish settlement on the island for several centuries during this time period). Then when Elephantine was ransaked the Ark wass again removed and taken up the nile, this time all the way into Ethiopia which was remote enough to keep it safe.

There's no real proof of this, but there is alot of interesting circumstantial evidence pointing to it. I read a book called The Sign and the Seal about it that makes a pretty convincing case that it's at least a strong possibility. I don't know if it actually is there but it seems plausible at least.

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56. "RE: there might be some elements of truth behind the myth actually"
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>The myth says Selassie is descended from King Solomon and the
>Queen of Sheba, who was an Ethiopian queen named Makeda. They
>had a son named Menelik, who when he came of age travelled to
>Jerusalem to meet Solomon, who recognized him as his son. When
>Menelik returned to Ethiopia he took the Ark of the Covenant
>with him, became the first Emperor of Ethiopia and founder of
>the Solominic Dynasty, all the way down to Selassie.
>
>OK so first off, the queen of Sheba almost certainly wasn't
>from Ethiopia so the myth isn't literally true. BUT if there
>was a queen of Sheba she'd have been from Saba in south Yemen,
>which is where Ethiopians are descended from (in part), so
>there is a link there.
>
>Also there's a theory that the Ark might actually be in
>Ethiopia, that it was removed from the Temple in Jerusalem to
>prevent it from being looted or destroyed by whoever was
>sacking Jerusalem at the time, and was brought into Egypt and
>hidden on Elephantine island in the Nile (there was in fact a
>Jewish settlement on the island for several centuries during
>this time period). Then when Elephantine was ransaked the Ark
>wass again removed and taken up the nile, this time all the
>way into Ethiopia which was remote enough to keep it safe.
>
>
>There's no real proof of this, but there is alot of
>interesting circumstantial evidence pointing to it. I read a
>book called The Sign and the Seal about it that makes a pretty
>convincing case that it's at least a strong possibility. I
>don't know if it actually is there but it seems plausible at
>least.

Since you obviously seem to know a little bit more about this than some silly bitches do... look at what you said... does any of it lead to historical/logical/factual creedence that Jesus had to have been black?

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60. "no, but this does:"
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The Gangsta Gospels: MC Jesus Chronicles 2001:

http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=18&topic_id=38385&mesg_id=38385

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61. "RE: no, but this does:"
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>The Gangsta Gospels: MC Jesus Chronicles 2001:
>
>http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=18&topic_id=38385&mesg_id=38385

That maybe the funniest shit I ever read.

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62. "Brilliant post"
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That was like watching 'From Dusk til Dawn' You think it is a serious film until halway through...

The missing years (13 - 33)? Wanking in his bedroom, interupted only by nonsensical rants on Okayplayer..

  

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64. "RE: Brilliant post"
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>The missing years (13 - 33)? Wanking in his bedroom,
>interupted only by nonsensical rants on Okayplayer..

Well then half the people on here could be Jesus.


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67. "Exactly!"
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Sorry it took so long to respond I was, er, otherwise engaged.

  

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72. "LOL"
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381. "i've read about this too"
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>Also there's a theory that the Ark might actually be in
>Ethiopia, that it was removed from the Temple in Jerusalem to
>prevent it from being looted or destroyed by whoever was
>sacking Jerusalem at the time, and was brought into Egypt and
>hidden on Elephantine island in the Nile (there was in fact a
>Jewish settlement on the island for several centuries during
>this time period). Then when Elephantine was ransaked the Ark
>wass again removed and taken up the nile, this time all the
>way into Ethiopia which was remote enough to keep it safe.


it's very interesting to me. doesnt the story go that there is only one man who can physically view the ark, and that he has an apprentice of sorts that will take over the job after he is done? the "apprentice" has to be completely sin free because if not viewing the ark will destroy him. this is all from memory so forgive any errors. also the church or whatever it is that holds the ark is guarded by a bunch of guys with AK's?

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470. "RE: i've read about this too"
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>it's very interesting to me. doesnt the story go that there is
>only one man who can physically view the ark, and that he has
>an apprentice of sorts that will take over the job after he is
>done? the "apprentice" has to be completely sin free because
>if not viewing the ark will destroy him. this is all from
>memory so forgive any errors.

Yep, that's exactly right.

>also the church or whatever it
>is that holds the ark is guarded by a bunch of guys with
>AK's?

It used to be at least, I don't know if it still is though.

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474. "RE: i've read about this too"
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go deeper.. .explain some more... this could be a good read.

  

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496. "that's the whole story basically"
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the Ark is supposedly kept in a church in Ethiopia, it's guarded by a priest who is the only person allowed to see it. It's kept wrapped under several layers of cloth because it's supposed to have powers that are dangerous if you touch or look directly at it, only a person with a pure soul can look at it safely, which is why the guardian of the Ark is chosen for being free of sin.

It's his duty to guard the ark for the rest of his life, before he dies he chooses a new guardian from one of the young apprentice priests who is the most pure of heart to take his place.

That's it really, I don't know what else you want to know. If you want to look it up there's a bunch of sites online that talk about it, the church is called St. Mary of Zion, it's in the town of Axum in northern Ethiopia.

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51. "RE: Really? So Iraq is in Africa too?"
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>>Northern Africa yes.
>>The middle east is Africa in case you didn't know.
>
>How about Iran? Where do you draw the line?
>
>>Ethiopian? Really, so the whole Hale Salassie thing was just
>>one big joke heh?
>
>Not a joke, it's a national myth. That doesn't make it a bad
>thing, every nation has one. Doesn't make it true though.

You'll have to excuse Waterboys Wank he wouldn't know what he was talking about, if he wrote it on his palm and used that shit like a cheat sheet.

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4. "RE: Why Can't People Acccept that Jesus was African?"
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>Nah, he was. That isn't the argument at all.
>


Yeah because your argument of 'He was... because his... umm... mannerisms were' is a fucking paragon of enlightened debate.

Since when were you hanging around with the Apostles? How do you know what the fuck his mannerisms were?

Sean | Jesus was an Arab. blonde haired, blue eyed? Nope. Black... hardly.

  

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7. "LOL!!!"
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n/m

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9. "RE: Why Can't People Acccept that Jesus was African?"
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Nope. Niggaz know niggaz...
we know our mannerisms... and when (outside of Bono) is the last time you met a compassionate humble white man? c'mon sun.

  

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13. "RE: Why Can't People Acccept that Jesus was African?"
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>Nope. Niggaz know niggaz...
>we know our mannerisms... and when (outside of Bono) is the
>last time you met a compassionate humble white man? c'mon
>sun.


Hyperbole, bullshit and stupidity...

Its like saying "I've got gaydar"

Congratulations, different name, still unable to argue your way out of a wet paper bag.

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15. "RE: Why Can't People Acccept that Jesus was African?"
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Nope... not at all... sorry if you don't have that kind of 'soul'.
how a white person going to tell a black person what isn't in their nature? haha.. first we let you listen to blues.. now this. haha.. wow.

  

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17. "IS THAT IT???!!!"
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IS THAT YOUR PROOF?! YOUR OPINION ON HIS "MANNERISMS"?! HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

Man I thought you had something at least a little credible to back you up. But you don't. You just have your opinion. If you didn't notice, this is okayplayer and not the chess club. Come correct or don't come at all.

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18. "RE: IS THAT IT???!!!"
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REad the entire post..
and maybe you won't laugh as hard.
BWAHH!...
It's common sense... but read the post... I know how you whites love to be number one.
Can't accept reality... but I will help you through it my brother.

How alarming is it that whites are comfortable just laughing at the idea of a black jesus... but will bang our music, rock our styles all day... trust people, nothing has changed, it just wears a fitted now.

  

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189. "Boo"
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>It's common sense... but read the post... I know how you
>whites love to be number one.

No one is saying he is white, they are sayig he was an Arab....


>How alarming is it that whites are comfortable just laughing
>at the idea of a black jesus... but will bang our music, rock
>our styles all day... trust people, nothing has changed, it
>just wears a fitted now.
>

Cultural appropriation. You think Blacks arent guilty of it? think again.

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384. "RE: Boo"
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Not bright are you. Arab?
haha... the first Arabs were black... so funny.

  

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450. "Proof?"
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What about Berber tribes in North Africa who are and always have been white?

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478. "RE: Proof?"
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Um... no.. migrants...
you cannot take yourself seriously.

  

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481. "credit where it's due"
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aquaman's right: the berbers were (asian, if i'm not mistaken) migrants who came in & mixed and/or fought w/ the native blk population for a long time.

i believe that began when the sahara was still green, and they simply stayed after the deforestation occurred.


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49. "So lets pile all of your bullshit into one post."
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>Nope... it's common sense.
>I have given you the African bloodline.

You have given me a fictional bloodline propogated by a man to try an rationalize his brutal hold on power.

Haillie Sallasie said he was descendent from Solomon... Well holy shit! Stop the presses! He must be right! That must of course make Jesus black... because Hallie Sellasie said he was descendent from Solomon.

And I'm descended from a little indian princess... lemme at some of the casino cash.

Over and over again you haven't proven anything, you just recite fiction and try to pass it off as truth. you can't prove that Haille Sellasie was descendant from Solomon (but of course since he was a black man you believe what he says, because he's not one of those evil white people out to oppress you... which by the way... when is your personal pity party going to end?)


>cause according to your words...
>Jews are the ONLY race (and they are not a race people, just a
>religion) that have been clean of mixing with any other
>race... how is that?

Wait a second... lemme go back and read through my post...

Nope I never said that.

So can you argue with someone by providing historically supported proof or even with wit and humor... or does everything you write have to depend on bullshit, conspiracy theories and straw men?

The reason why its absurd that I would have ever said that is because as a person of Jewish heritage I am a mixture of races. The Jewish side of my family is Polish, Czech, and German. The Anglo side of my family is Irish and French.

>Hmmm?
>Which is awfully racist to think they are 'pure'. Hmmm? How
>is this?

You're a fucking caricature. You're a joke. A fucking sham.

Bring something that resembles facts and we can have an argument...

>Abraham - Ibraheem
>Moses - Musa
>Soloman - Sulamaynn
>
>Sound white to you?

As I would bet unlike you I speak Arabic. You being a pitiful little pedant doesn't prove a damn thing... because over and over again I haven't said that Jesus was white, but that he was what we would quantify as Arabic... and your response...

"Well an ethiopian said he was descendent from Solomon, and Niggaz know other Niggaz... and all white people are non-compassionate oppressors... so Jesus must be Black!"

>Um, Judaism didn't start in Europe.
>Wrong answer, try again.

Did I say that it is... or are you just overwhelmed by the fact that I know what I am talking about so you start making shit up? You are a grade A cant hang. You have the intellectual ability of a bunch of short bus riding fools.

>Also, you sound like your either of Armenian, Polish, or
>Turkish decent...
>sorry to break the news to you... but they are converts.
>Jew-ish.. kind of Jew. Hence the ish.

You just have no idea what you are talking about. And the ish line? Laughable.

are you out of high school?

So... if you're polish you are kind of a pole? Or if you are 100% turkish you are 'kind of a turk'

You are fucking moronicish.

>Nope... not at all... sorry if you don't have that kind of
>'soul'.
>how a white person going to tell a black person what isn't in
>their nature? haha.. first we let you listen to blues.. now
>this. haha.. wow.

First of all you haven't quantified what is or isn't in a black persons nature... and whether or not Jesus had those qualities... why is that?

Why is that?

Oh thats right because you are talking out of your ass!

You're the intellectual version of a snake oil sales man.

Go take your race baiting childs play back to grade school and leave the grown ups to them selves.

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52. "LMAO"
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Checkmate

  

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63. "you can't hear Jimi"
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>their nature? haha.. first we let you listen to blues.. now
>this. haha.. wow.


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57. "Bono is humble?"
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That might be the craziest thing you've said in this thread.

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310. "RE: Bono is humble?"
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bwhahahahaha

  

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314. "RE: Bono is humble?"
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Actually.... yes. Very.

  

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324. "your'e crazy"
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Bono's a good guy and his heart's definitely in the right place, but he's got an enormous ego.

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333. "RE: your'e crazy"
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Nah I have met Bono... he's confident... and he deserves to be... no one, not even any person on this site has accomplished what that man has... not too many people outside of Fela, Bob Marley, and Peter Tosh has accomplished what this man has. Can't front.

  

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338. "RE: your'e crazy"
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question is how did he get into that position to be able to do all these great things? maybe its because i ain't done a whole bunch of things or maybe its my philosophy but i'm always really dubious about rock stars with causes. which is not to knock what he does right enough.

...guess what, you can't swing in scotland either.

  

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341. "RE: your'e crazy"
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He extended himself...
while others will take thier money and buy gold bathtubs...
he invested in Africa AIDS Crisis programs...
he set up a NGO that deals exclusively with Africa...
he went to Africa numerous times to try and help...
he applied himself. Meanwhile BABy from Cashmoney is spinning around in circles in a Ferrari with Gucci interior with one door open.

  

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342. "I fully agree with you on that"
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Like I said, he's a good guy no doubt, and I fully respect and appreciate all those positive things he's done like you mentioned. But he still has that rock star ego thing going. Doesn't make him any less good of a person (maybe more annoying, but no less good) - it just is what it is.

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349. "RE: I fully agree with you on that"
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I hear you... but I have to say... to give up all the fame and glory of a rock star to go to the belly to help out your fellow brothers and sisters who are ill, hungry, war torn, disenfranchised... that says volumes. How many cats in hiphop have done a damn thing for their brothers and sisters in Africa? Kweli has performed there... but poetry aint saving nobody.

  

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352. "RE: I fully agree with you on that"
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..thats the other point. with the system we've got, all the money and fame and all the rest of it. how many people who could make a difference wherever they don't bother and get caught up chasing the aforementioned money and fame?

...guess what, you can't swing in scotland either.

  

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353. "RE: I fully agree with you on that"
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Exactly. He could be wilding out right about now... mad women... mad cars... just illing... and even if he is he deserves to cause he is putting his money where his mouth is... he is helping people... he's personally going to the villages to see the effects of whats going on... he even brough in other celebs (if you will) like Michael Jackson and Chris Tucker... he's even mentioned that he tried to get certain people and they were like 'Um... I love your music but... how's a check sound?' Plus he has that "one" . org thing? Not sure if that's right but they are running ads for it now... he's pulled quite a few people in... including Brad Pitt and others with some real pull.

  

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343. "nobody who wears colored sunglasses indoors is humble"
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350. "RE: nobody who wears colored sunglasses indoors is humble"
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hahaha... true... I mean he is Bono tho'... he is a star...
and on the real it aint about what you wear... it's about what you do...
how many black artists are rocking headwraps and won't go nowhere near Africa??? Dave Chappelle will rock a Malcolm or Che shirt and then go on Conan OBrian and say he never wants to go to Africa cause he don't want to go nowhere that has more flies than people.
Think about it.

  

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530. "Bono wasn't GRACIOUS enough to GIVE HIS Grammy's to India Irie..."
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Anybody remember that year when U2 won 3 or 4 Grammy's--and were ON STAGE WITH India when she was REPEATEDLY DENIED a MUCH Deserved Grammy?

If I was Bono I would have told the judges to PHUK THEMSELVEs an HANDED OVER my EXTRA Trophy to India....but he didn't...thats EGO!!

  

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217. "simply because you claim he is, that makes it a fact?"
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more and more jokes erryday..i love it

  

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5. "RE: Why Can't People Acccept that Jesus was African?"
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Lol, this is your third attempt at getting this forum to fly!! Is that why you've changed your name?

Jesus is a mythical character; he will always look like what the elite want him to. All religious people, blacks included, tend to internalise that.

With respect, where exactly are you driving with this forum? Are you trying challenge the inferiority stigma (to which blacks subscribe) by challenging the whiteness of Christ?

If so, why not simply bin this religion?

  

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10. "RE: Why Can't People Acccept that Jesus was African?"
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I'm challenging the lies and the conditioning process of EuroAmerica.
When blacks drop this from there mental library they are on their way.

  

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12. "RE: Why Can't People Acccept that Jesus was African?"
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I expect whites to hold on to it... cause they predominately live in a fantasy world where America is Numberone, Moses looked white (cause of their movies), Jews are white, they worship Santa and the easter bunny... and so on. It's a serious control issue with a superiority complex to boot... even if they dress like they down with hiphop, know the slang, and the mannerisms. Doesn't matter... cause at the core, they are the same folk as their parents.

  

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44. "RE: Why Can't People Acccept that Jesus was African?"
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Because around the world people have been conditioned to adopt a foreign thought process...such as Christianity...

When we were brought to this country, that was the MAIN agenda of the slavemasters...to disenfranchise us from OUR former "beliefs" and have us claim "white-Jesus" and such as the focus of our daily lives...

People with little-to-no power (in themselves) always quote scripture from mythical books...therefore, word-of-mouth advisement is considered to be nulled at first-chance...meaning, that someone of a faith will see someone that's not of THEIR faith as a target of either conversion, or ridicule...so, in turn, the person that has HEARD that Jesus could possibly be a descendant of the Falasha Jews (who were supposedly descended from the "affair" between King Solomon and the Queen of Sheba) will be seen as an object of ridicule and neglect from the perspective of your average blue-nose ( a term used in reference to a person who always peruses the "King James" Bible)...

...and, in that perspective, anyone who quotes from the KING JAMES BIBLE...like it's the infallible Word of God...is a fucking moron!!!

By that, I mean, it's not original...and I think that most using common sense can understand that...

...and 40th is right, according to scripture, Jesus would have been born in Bethelem...then again, the Middle East could be considered the "middle" of NORTHEAST AFRICA...


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45. "RE: Why Can't People Acccept that Jesus was African?"
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Before anyone jumps on my tail about the part I stated about "quoting scripture" and then I made the comment about..."according to scripture, Jesus...."...that's not me being contrary to my own words, is it?...


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71. "Doesn't the story go...."
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he was born in Bethlehem due to John and Mary fearing for his safety so the fled to the town of Bethlehem?

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483. "somebody needs to add to that *points up*"
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he's on to something.

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66. "co sign all of this"
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68. "*Subtext*"
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Sad Puppy Eyes, will you go out with me? xxx

  

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86. "LOL!"
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He hasn't denied it, the young boy wonder!!

  

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91. "who the hell are you? im already involved with someone...."
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the point was well made....
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95. "LMAO! It was a lighthearted joke..."
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...why the agro? Methinks the boy wonder doth protest too much!

  

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58. "Christ's mannerisms indicate he was Black?"
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did he walk with a strut or something?

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59. "RE: Christ's mannerisms indicate he was Black?"
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>did he walk with a strut or something?

Ride a mule with a profile lean?

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