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"Holy Shit: Questions RE: Hunter S. Thompson's Death"


  

          

Toronto Globe and Mail | February 26, 2005:

Paul William Roberts in his Globe and mail article of Saturday, February 26, 2005 wrote the following:

Hunter telephoned me on Feb. 19, the night before his death. He sounded scared. It wasn't always easy to understand what he said, particularly over the phone, he mumbled, yet when there was something he really
wanted you to understand, you did.

He'd been working on a story about the World Trade Center attacks and had stumbled across what he felt was hard evidence showing the towers had been brought down not by the airplanes that flew into them but by explosive charges set off in their foundations.

Now he thought someone was out to stop him publishing it: "They're gonna make it look like suicide," he said. "I know how these bastards think ."

Hunter S. Thompson ... was indeed working on such a story.


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from the AP story.... silencer used ...
Mar 04th 2005
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he was possibly assassinated like gary webb
Mar 04th 2005
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      I forgot about webb. What about the sista that was
Mar 04th 2005
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RE: Holy Shit: Questions RE: Hunter S. Thompson's Death
Mar 04th 2005
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have you ever seen a building demolished by explosive charges?
Mar 04th 2005
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i'm not saying it's right...
Mar 04th 2005
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Ya'll need to read the
Mar 04th 2005
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that's a different issue than the mechanism that caused the WTC collapse
Mar 04th 2005
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      He covers this tho. But ya'll still need to read it.
Mar 04th 2005
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           I've read/watched alot of stuff about it
Mar 04th 2005
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                why not?
Mar 04th 2005
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                because they lose credibility
Mar 04th 2005
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                RE: I've read/watched alot of stuff about it
Mar 04th 2005
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                     see post #3
Mar 04th 2005
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dude, this is Hunter S. Thompson we're talking about
Mar 04th 2005
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      He was a druggie. But that alone doesn't discredit him.
Mar 04th 2005
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           not beyond a shadow of a doubt, but it does explain alot
Mar 04th 2005
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                It Doesn't Explain Anything
Mar 04th 2005
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                Your Drug ASSUMPTION is backed up with what?
Mar 04th 2005
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                     um, do you even know who Hunter S. Thompson was?
Mar 04th 2005
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                          who stated anything about the CIA assassinating hunter?
Mar 07th 2005
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WTC 7 was Brought Down by Explosives
Mar 04th 2005
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now THIS im convinced of
Mar 04th 2005
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explosives tend to explode
Mar 04th 2005
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      CBS Video Showing WTC 7 vertical/symmetrical collapse
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           and are there any explosions going off?
Mar 04th 2005
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                dont even waste your time
Mar 04th 2005
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                Invisible Jet Fuel Brought Down WTC 7
Mar 04th 2005
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                     nobody said Jet Fuel Brought Down WTC 7
Mar 04th 2005
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                          did WTC 7 collapse vertically and symmetrically?
Mar 04th 2005
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                               were you expecting it to tip over like a falling tree?
Mar 04th 2005
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                                    EXPLAIN THIS
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                                         RE: EXPLAIN THIS
Mar 04th 2005
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It's what my Father does for a living
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      QUESTION
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      Question stupid
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           First of all, we all know you can't bring the WTC down
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                deleting posts huh?
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      RE: It's what my Father does for a living
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           Do you have any understanding of the dynamics of
Mar 04th 2005
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           RE: It's what my Father does for a living
Mar 04th 2005
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           did i answer all your questions schmoopie?
Mar 07th 2005
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Man, I'm telling you. The more I read, the more
Mar 04th 2005
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Book Recommendation for FIVER
Mar 04th 2005
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WORD!!!!
Mar 04th 2005
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so this is telling you all something new?
Mar 04th 2005
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RE: so this is telling you all something new?
Mar 04th 2005
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update: about the silencer
Mar 04th 2005
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Frightening...
Mar 04th 2005
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It's their vocation. It'd be frightening if the didn't know
Mar 04th 2005
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RE: update: about the silencer
Mar 04th 2005
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RE: update: about the silencer
Mar 04th 2005
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One Problem
Mar 04th 2005
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update from special forces: if lips were sealed...
Mar 07th 2005
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Holy shit is right
Mar 04th 2005
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Hunter S. Thompson's Suicide Story Changes
Mar 04th 2005
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I'd probably be on drugs too
Mar 04th 2005
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ya know? sometimes I read some shit and I
Mar 04th 2005
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Hunter on bush and 9-11
Mar 04th 2005
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RE: Hunter on bush and 9-11
Mar 07th 2005
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Fiver
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1. "from the AP story.... silencer used ..."
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Friday, February 25, 2005 Posted: 11:18 AM EST (1618 GMT)

Hunter S. Thompson

ASPEN, Colorado (AP) -- The widow of journalist Hunter S. Thompson said her husband killed himself while the two were talking on the phone.

"I was on the phone with him, he set the receiver down and he did it. I heard the clicking of the gun," Anita Thompson told the Aspen Daily News in Friday's editions.

She said her husband had asked her to come home from a health club so they could work on his weekly ESPN column -- but instead of saying goodbye, he set the telephone down and shot himself.

Thompson said she heard a loud, muffled noise, but didn't know what had happened. "I was waiting for him to get back on the phone," she said.

(Her account to Rocky Mountain News reporter Jeff Kass is slightly different: "I did not hear any bang," she told Kass. She added that Thompson's son, who was in the house at the time, believed that a book had fallen when he heard the shot, according to Kass' report.).....

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24. "he was possibly assassinated like gary webb"
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alex jones interviewed the guy who wrote the article in the toronto newspaper yesterday during his radio program. i smell foul play

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26. "I forgot about webb. What about the sista that was"
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shot? The one that Bush allegedly raped. She was about to take him to court for several million, and then she wound up dead.

this is the only link I could find right quick:

http://www.opednews.com/thoreau1103bush_rape_suicide.htm



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2. "RE: Holy Shit: Questions RE: Hunter S. Thompson's Death"
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i thought he was on the phone with his wife when he shot himself?

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“All the scared niggers are dead” – Stokely Carmichael

"...and once we control at least the economy of our own community, we will actually be in a position to provide employment for the people of the community. And this will eliminate the necessity of us acting ignorantly and disgracefully boycotting and picketing some cracka somewhere else trying to beg him for a job. Anytime you have to rely upon your enemy for a job, you're in bad shape.” - Malcolm X


  

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3. "have you ever seen a building demolished by explosive charges?"
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if you have, then you know that's not what brought down the WTC.

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5. "i'm not saying it's right..."
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...i'm saying maybe something weird did happen because of whatever he found.

the whole use of a silencer freaks me out too.

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8. "Ya'll need to read the"
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http://waronfreedom.mediamonitors.net/index2.html

It is an indepth look. More than that? It talks about the proceedures that were ignored when it all went down.


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depend on 'em. That's
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17. "that's a different issue than the mechanism that caused the WTC collapse"
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19. "He covers this tho. But ya'll still need to read it."
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"...I'm telling ya these walls are
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you get used to 'em. Enough,
time passes, you get so you
depend on 'em. That's
"institutionalized."

Red, The Shawshank Redemption.







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21. "I've read/watched alot of stuff about it"
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Mike Ruppert is the best I've seen at asking pertinent questions and digging up the truth. So I don't dismiss stuff out of hand.

But if someone's trying to argue that the WTC was brought down by controlled demoliton explosives, then I'm not gonna bother with the rest of what they have to say. Because I know that's not true, so why should I believe anything else they have to say about it?

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36. "why not?"
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depend on 'em. That's
"institutionalized."

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51. "because they lose credibility"
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If I know that they're wrong about other stuff, why should I take anything else they say at face value? Doesn't necessarily mean they're wrong about everything else, just means I'll look for my info elsewhere.

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40. "RE: I've read/watched alot of stuff about it"
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how do you know? Were you inside?

  

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52. "see post #3"
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9. "dude, this is Hunter S. Thompson we're talking about"
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he was probably on a paranoid acid trip or something.

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11. "He was a druggie. But that alone doesn't discredit him."
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"...I'm telling ya these walls are
funny. First you hate 'em, then
you get used to 'em. Enough,
time passes, you get so you
depend on 'em. That's
"institutionalized."

Red, The Shawshank Redemption.







_________________
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"Slaves got options...cowards aint got shit." --PS
"Once upon a time, little need existed for making the distinction between a nigga and a black—at least not in this country, the place where niggas were invented" -- Donnell A

  

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16. "not beyond a shadow of a doubt, but it does explain alot"
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38. "It Doesn't Explain Anything"
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The wife's story as well as hunter's son mistaking the sound of the gun shot for a book falling suggests foul play. You can't rule that out over some unsubstantiated drug shit.

Did the wife say hunter sounded like he was drugs? Did the write from the toronto newspaper who spoke to hunter the night before say anything to suggest hunter was under the influence of drugs? did hunter's son who was in the house during the shooting say anything suggesting that his father was acting like he was on drugs before the shooting?

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43. "Your Drug ASSUMPTION is backed up with what?"
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did hunter's wife say anything to suggest he was on drugs while on the phone? did the reporter from the toronto newspaper say anything to suggest that hunter sounded like he was on drugs the day before the alleged suicide? did hunter's son who was in the house say anything to suggest that his father was on drugs?

you can't rule out the testimony from the son, toronto reporter and wife over some unsubstantiated drug theory.

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53. "um, do you even know who Hunter S. Thompson was?"
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he liked drugs. alot.

>you can't rule out the testimony from the son, toronto
>reporter and wife over some unsubstantiated drug theory.

you're right, the CIA assassination theory is much less unsubstantiated.

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59. "who stated anything about the CIA assassinating hunter?"
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the testimony of the wife, son and the toronto reporter suggests the possibility of foul play. i am dealing with a probability not a theory.

you can't provide any info that suggests drug use played a role in hunter's "suicide."

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6. "WTC 7 was Brought Down by Explosives"
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no plane hit it and it fell symmetrically straight down

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14. "now THIS im convinced of"
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the twin towers? no. but building 7? yes.

  

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15. "explosives tend to explode"
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there were no explosions going off when it fell.

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18. "CBS Video Showing WTC 7 vertical/symmetrical collapse"
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http://www.wtc7.net/videos.html

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23. "and are there any explosions going off?"
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No? OK then.

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25. "dont even waste your time"
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he cannot comprehend anything aside from how to post videos and swipes that he has found that prove absolutely nothing...He's not worth the time or effort...And no, the buildings did not come down like explosives laid out.

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28. "Invisible Jet Fuel Brought Down WTC 7"
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you can't deny the fact that the collapse of wtc 7 is a mirror image of a controlled demolition

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32. "nobody said Jet Fuel Brought Down WTC 7"
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and I repeat: have you ever seen a controlled demolition? It doesn't look like that.

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33. "did WTC 7 collapse vertically and symmetrically?"
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you are in denial if you don't think the vertical/symmetric collapse of wtc 7 doesn't a mirror a control demolition

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35. "were you expecting it to tip over like a falling tree?"
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>you are in denial if you don't think the vertical/symmetric
>collapse of wtc 7 doesn't a mirror a control demolition

Exactly, you are in denial.

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46. "EXPLAIN THIS"
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1. do control demolitions bring down buildings vertically and symmetrically onto its own foot print? yes or no

2. did wtc 7 collapse vertically and symmetrically onto its own foot print? yes or no

3. did you notice the pent house located at the top/center of wtc 7 collapse inward before the rest of the bulding in the CBS footage? yes or no

4. since no plane hit WTC 7 can you explain what caused this building to collapse vertically/symmetrically?

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54. "RE: EXPLAIN THIS"
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1. do explosive charges go off in controlled demolitions? yes or no

2. did you see or hear any explosive charges going off in the wtc 7 collapse? yes or no

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7. "It's what my Father does for a living"
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i've worked with him on several shots around the country, and have a good amount of experience when dealing with controlled demo...and no, the way the towers fell is not even close to consistent with a controlled demolition, though "Marky Mark 3 times the joke" would tell you otherwise.
THe buildings fell because their cores melted. in order to bring a building down like that charges would need to be placed throughout the building, not just those placed in the foundation

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22. "QUESTION"
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How did WTC 7 collapse vertically/symmetrically when no plane hit?

It is amazing that jet fuel can burn hot enough to melt tons of steel concrete but it did not prevent some people from above the crash zones to escape the towers. I also forgot to mention that the jet fuel fires failed to melt numerous people seen flagging for help in and around crash zones also.

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27. "Question stupid"
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Do you have any idea what it takes to bring a building down with explosives? How much engineering goes into the placement of the explosives. Not to mention the fact that weeks and weeks of prep need to go into a building before it is even ready to have explosives placed. And no, you cannot bring a building down simply by placing some explosives at the base. And if you opened your eyes during the videos of the towers falling, you can see the break point, which is no where near the base
try again freak show

  

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29. "First of all, we all know you can't bring the WTC down"
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like that. The bombing in what was it - '96 or sumin proved that.

Secondly, no need to get ugly. If ya'll continue on that sort of path I'ma have to delete it, and I'd hate to cus this is a good convo we got going.


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34. "deleting posts huh?"
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41. "RE: It's what my Father does for a living"
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Explain that further please.
cause your suggesting the core burned from the top all the way down to the bottom allowing it to collapse... considering the planes suppossedly hit within minutes... and the buildings collapsed within minutes... doesn't this seem somewhat... on schedule? Combine that with the fact that when the Pres. was informed of the first building being hit... he sat quietly and picked up a book... waiting (like he knew well in advance) for the second plane to hit... so again please explain the dynamics of your fathers position
how you worked with him (in what capacity)
and how this building collapsed.
Also, try doing this without namecalling. Peace.

  

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44. "Do you have any understanding of the dynamics of"
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explosive devices and how they work in demolition projects? if not, you are asking alot of him to draw it out for you- cus if u wouldn't know how to call him on his bs or when to be satisfied if he gave you good info.

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55. "RE: It's what my Father does for a living"
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>Explain that further please.
>cause your suggesting the core burned from the top all the
>way down to the bottom allowing it to collapse...

I never suggested that the buildings core burned all the way down, so stop with the insinuations first of all..A Plane filled with Jet Fuel crashes into the building..Aside from the initial stress of handling a plane hitting it at 500 miles per hour, the jet fuel that was in the plane had to go somewhere, and there is no way it burned up instantly when the planes hit the buildings..That jet fuel filled elevator shafts, stairwells, crawlspaces, and so on. Gravity pulled that burning jet fuel down the core of the building. Now in order for the building to collapse the way it did, the core did not need to be melted all the way to the bottom supports, because the building was so tall that at some point the weight of the portion above the hit zone was too much for the weakened lower portion to handle, Thats why when you watch the video, when the top first starts to go, it goes at the weakest point(where the plane hit)buckeling, smashing down through the part that was weakened, and even down through the lower part that was not really weakened at all.


>considering the planes suppossedly hit within minutes... and
>the buildings collapsed within minutes... doesn't this seem
>somewhat... on schedule?
Uhh...if you stopped at thought about that for a second you would see that you sound kind of silly. Think about any math equation. As long as the constants are the same, the outcome will be the same no? Same jet fuel, essentially the same crash point on the building, same exact materials within the building(from the steel used to build it to the cubicles inside that fueled the fire), therefor the burn time until critical failure will be nearly exactly the same...Simple math and science

> Combine that with the fact that
>when the Pres. was informed of the first building being
>hit... he sat quietly and picked up a book... waiting (like
>he knew well in advance) for the second plane to hit...
First off, this has nothing to do with the topic at hand, second, you are clearly making ASSumptions about what was going on. Look man, i've never claimed that 9/11 was on the up and up, of course there was a lot of shady shit going downaround it, but the fact of the matter is, those towers couldnt have been taken down with explosives without a lot of people knowing it.
so
>again please explain the dynamics of your fathers position
>how you worked with him (in what capacity)
>and how this building collapsed.
>Also, try doing this without namecalling. Peace.
The dynamics of my fathers position? He is the head supervisor and head blaster for a controlled demo company. He has been in charge of and personally planned the layout patterns for over 50 buildings, including sports stadiums, domed stadiums, industrial plants, power plants, smoke stacks,cement kilns, and dry docks. He personally plans the way the explosives will be laid out, the way the building will fall, where the building will fall. He lays out the explosives with his partner, and myself when i am along working with him. I've got 5 "shots" under my belt, how bout you?
There...hopefully that answers some of your questions...and look at me, no name calling...Funny that you would express that as one of your little ground rules, considering you're the king

  

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57. "did i answer all your questions schmoopie?"
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4. "Man, I'm telling you. The more I read, the more"
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uncomfortable I get with how our government operates. Sometimes i just want to leave, but then you think maybe you can fight to make things better.

I think about leaving and staying at least once a month. I love aspects of this country and what it can be, and at the same time I hate certain aspects and I'm afraid of what it may really be and become.

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10. "Book Recommendation for FIVER"
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PAINFUL QUESTIONS by Eric Hufschmid

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12. "WORD!!!!"
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13. "so this is telling you all something new?"
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A) the WTC attacks are suspect, there was alot more going on than what has been reported to us

B) our government doesn't like for the masses to know everything that is going on (which i dont necessarily disagree with) however, if the U.S. government was indeed responsible for the 9/11 attacks that killed thousands of people, I would like to know why: (and no, "da white man government be just evil and corrupt" aint gonna cut it)...

C) our government (or shadow governments *cue x-files music*) will waste no time in assasinating those who get in their way.

- none of this is new shit, 99% of you mofoes already THINK/KNOW this so what is so special about this story? im just curious.

  

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42. "RE: so this is telling you all something new?"
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it should be obvious...
right after 9/11 when there were suppossedly Saudi hijackers...
he decides to go after Iraq...
oil my friend. Power... control of the world...
what he's doing in the middle east is setting the stage for his family and oil mongers for years and years to come...
this is play #1 out of Hitler's handbook... look at how he bombed his own parliament... blamed the jews... got the public in a furor and they allowed him the power to do whatever he wanted... without question...
those questions you posed are very, very, very easy to answer.
but sometimes they are hard to see when it's right under your nose.

  

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20. "update: about the silencer"
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...sooo a dude i know who used to work in special military forces told me that, if pressed up against the head correctly, the cranium acts as a silencer for a gun.

pretty gross, interesting..but it's another explanation for no shot being heard.

grendel has had an accident, so may you all.

  

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30. "Frightening..."
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the shit our special forces know.

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31. "It's their vocation. It'd be frightening if the didn't know"
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37. "RE: update: about the silencer"
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From what I read he put the gun in his mouth. Is this the same effect of against the skull?
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45. "RE: update: about the silencer"
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hmmmm, good question. logically, it wouldn't muffle the sound. but i have to hit up the special forces guy again to get a decent answer.

grendel has had an accident, so may you all.

  

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47. "One Problem"
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hunter supposedly committed suicide by shooting himself in the mouth.

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60. "update from special forces: if lips were sealed..."
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around the gun and the way the body reacts to a bullet in the brain, it would have the same "silencer" effect.

grendel has had an accident, so may you all.

  

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39. "Holy shit is right"
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thats fucked right up
some pple get madd paro against the gov't
i wouldnt b hard presseed to belive it

dman i hope someone else figure this shit out

  

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48. "Hunter S. Thompson's Suicide Story Changes"
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http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/march2005/020305thompsonwarned.htm

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49. "I'd probably be on drugs too"
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if I knew half of what Thompson knew. This story reeks of the American History Pattern.

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50. "ya know? sometimes I read some shit and I"
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just gotta fall on my knees and pray.

Du'a is the strongest weopon we got against this madness.

I be paranoid after I read shit sometimes- lookin out the window and shit.

that shit is wild. I don't know how some of these folk deal with that type of knowledge knowing that they are on the front lines. that's a whole 'nother class of bravery.


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56. "Hunter on bush and 9-11"
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http://www.indybay.org/uploads/hunter_thompson_aug29_2002.mp3

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58. "RE: Hunter on bush and 9-11"
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WTC stuff aside..how do you reconcile the fact that his wife said hed been talking about killing himself lately, he had his son over and was doing his goodbyes with the family , how is an assassin going to pop him in a house with his family in it then escape off the ranch with noone seeing him?

i think this shit is complete nonsense, dude was old , a gun nut, and did what alot of old timers who collect guns did..popped himself.


  

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