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bluetiger
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"Earth conscious?"


  

          

Do you recycle? Buy recycled products? Turn off lights? Stop water from just running (like when you are brushing your teeth, shaving)? Just asking...

What it being done politically to encourage more companies/industries to become more earth conscious? For example, is any pressure being exerted on the automotive industry to use recyclable fuel sources and non-pollutants (such as hemp oil and electricity)? Just asking...



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Subject Author Message Date ID
RE: Earth conscious?
Apr 14th 2000
1
the auto industry...
Apr 14th 2000
2
Earth day!
Wise_7
Apr 17th 2000
3
No one cares about the earth?
Apr 18th 2000
4
RE: Earth conscious?
Apr 18th 2000
5
good points about the envr and govt
May 01st 2000
12
      Actually
May 02nd 2000
13
i LOVE the earth yo!
Apr 19th 2000
6
up
Apr 19th 2000
7
Earth conscious?
Apr 24th 2000
8
i recycle everything
Apr 24th 2000
9
Can we recycle land?
Apr 27th 2000
10
we already do
Apr 28th 2000
11
      RE: we already do
May 03rd 2000
14
           forests
May 03rd 2000
15
                eff a developer
May 26th 2000
16

BooDaah
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1. "RE: Earth conscious?"
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An even bigger question is whether it is really possible to get folk to pay attention to the Earth around them when it affects the amount of $$$ they can put in their pocket.

Cigarettes kill. Everybody knows that, but that doesn't stop folks from making billions. Gas prices are ridiculously high, are we looking for cheaper fuel sources? Not really. We stress the importance of quality education for our childeren, but how many would agree to an increase in taxes to pay more to teachers?

The list goes on...



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2. "the auto industry..."
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is making an effort to make less polluting vehicles, unfortunately the vehicles that are most popular right now are the damn SUV's, but there are companiesthat should be applauded for their efforts, like Honda, for making the Insight(a hybrid, gas & electric), as well as having a large line of ULEV's (ultra low emission vehicle), but every american distributed automaker is being forced to have an electirc vehicle on sale in california by, i beleive it's 2003, but i'm not sure. As for me, well two years ago i worked for an outdoor Education camp, teaching kids about nature, and how to help conserve and recycle, now i take mass transit to my job, and try to bring lunch whenever possible, good post, welcome to OKAYActivism people! thanks ang, newguy and boodah

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Wise_7

Mon Apr-17-00 03:39 AM

  
3. "Earth day!"
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It's real sad that we have only 1 day to "do positive stuff" for the Earth.
Not that it's the only day we can do things, but mst people don't think about the Earth on a regular basis.

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bluetiger
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4. "No one cares about the earth?"
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up......

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5. "RE: Earth conscious?"
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I do all of thee above. Also as a graduate student in env. policy and natural resource management, I can tell you there are a lot of laws and regulations out to control the industry...ie.

Clean Air Act, Clean Water Act, RECRA and a lot of other progams that drop emmission levels etc. However, as some of you might know a lot of the enforcement and policies are political driven. Nevertheless, there are a lot of compliancy rules and regulations that companies and different industries have to abide by.

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12. "good points about the envr and govt"
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CAA, CWA, RCRA, etc. are all good, but theyre still political. i wrote in another post that the EPA, for as much good as it does, is as weak as it can get away with, because the govt is a business. thats why we have the "independent" envr lobby, the sierra club, greenpeace, etc.
we make too much money off industries that dont do enough of whats right, but whats legal to make stiffer laws/penalties when it comes to the envr.

the suvs are supposed to be hit w. tougher envr standards, and that cost is to trickle down to the consumer, as it should (in my opinion)
they do more damage to the envr, and as theyve increased in popularity, the globe is paying the price. if you wanna drive one, be prepared to fork out the extra change (im not certain how much more it will be, i think that depends partly on location)

there are small things we can all do, though. one of my more recent recycling efforts is grocery store bags. i pick paper and use the same bags until they tear.

sorta off the subject, but lets get together and plan a community clean up day!!!


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13. "Actually"
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Since I go to school and will be working in the public sector, I have to say that I trust the government a little better than I do these "independent" groups such as the ones you mentioned. The people who lobby for these causes are the ones who give big to campaigns and have personal agendas that for the majority do not emcompass aiding and helping everyone and people of color in particular. The term "environmental racism" is fairly new and the environmental battle has for the most part been dominated by rich white people. It wasn't until the 70's that you had grassroots groups steppin gup at the same time these groups with the NIMBY mentality still focused on middle class white.

Nevertheless, the point I was trying to get across was that the government gets a bad rap. I personally had a lot of conflicts and I'm still weary of the system. However, off teh past 3 years a lot of changes have been made and the older people with the whacked mentality on changes and shit are reaching retirement age. You have more young innovated people coming in with the a better grasp of how to implement change. Anyway, I just had to give some props to the gov. there are a lot of different ones outside of the EPA which is in need of reconstruction.

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6. "i LOVE the earth yo!"
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for real, this is an important topic. in my family we have always stressed the importance of conserving our precious resources, however many of my peers do not seem to share these values. thanks for posting on this issue blue tiger--okayplayers need to be okayrecyclers and whatnot

perhaps we can start generating a list of things that folks can do to help "save the earth"

here's a start:

1. recycle bottles (most grocerie stores will do this)

2. recycle newspapers

and the list goes on...


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7. "up"
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more later....

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bluetiger
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8. "Earth conscious?"
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Up!!!!!

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9. "i recycle everything"
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plastic, paper, aluminum, steel, eating utensils, whatever. also, i try to ride my bike when possible, or even walk. i try to buy recycled products as well as foods grown or raised using sustainable practices.

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10. "Can we recycle land?"
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Instead of urban sprawl, strip malls, cut and paste suburbia, "business" centers, or basic effing parking lots, why don't we use the land? We devalue land (living spaces) so quickly, just based on the almighty dollar. Why is the ghetto a ghetto at all? Have we not ethics when we rape mother earth? (sarcasm intended).....

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11. "we already do"
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In case you didn't know there are various programs sponsored by the government that "recyles" land thru various ways. Brownfields is a big part of that program. And areas are not always redevoloped to make ay for a big shopping mall or development. Gardens are built, wet lands etc. I just did a webpage for class on Brownfields youare welcome to look for more info. Plus Ilisted the link to all the class projects that might be of interest to you all.

http://www.spea.indiana.edu/Richardsv625home/groups.htm

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14. "RE: we already do"
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That's cool kec. How can we stop clearcutting of forests, etc that just make way for that new strip mall, parking lot, or apartment complex (All of which bring pollution to a previously necessary oxygen producing environment)?

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15. "forests"
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the only real way to keep forests from being developed is to have money-money to buy them from big developers and real estate hawks. that's how they're attempting to save the amazon rainforest-huge non-profits and philanthropists are buying up acres to keep them protected.

here in the states it's the same way. julia "butterfly" hill recently paid $50,000 to save a millenia old redwood/sequioa (i forget which) and the surrounding trees. sad to say but that's one area money holds more sway than anything else. of course, the government has lots of land but lots of folks want it open to the public, which often-times is detrimental to the ecosystems.

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16. "eff a developer"
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I realize that $$$ makes the difference here, but I was hoping that there might be another way to combat the problem.

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