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"explain the "black man is god" theory"


  

          

This my be personal, or whatever, but I'm very intrigued, can someone fill me in. Also, where does this school of thought leave whites? Thanks

  

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RE: explain the "black man is god" theory
JESSEWA
Jun 16th 2001
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RE: explain the "black man is god" theory
KemetShakur
Jun 16th 2001
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some do, some don't...
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Out of Africa
Jun 17th 2001
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Ami_Aura
Jun 19th 2001
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from what I know....
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What I think this means
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thats different
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RE: thats different
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      RE: thats different
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           When We Speak of "GODS"
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835
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IllipticallyDefined
Jun 19th 2001
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they the devil
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RE: they the devil
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RE: explain the "black man is god" theory
KAS19
Jun 18th 2001
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get to whitey
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its like this:
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I'm not NGE
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RE: I'm not NGE
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      I'm not NGE either...
bmig
Jun 19th 2001
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           RE: I'm not NGE either...
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RE: its like this:
KemetShakur
Jun 18th 2001
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      RE: its like this:
IllipticallyDefined
Jun 19th 2001
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RE: get to whitey
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RE: get to whitey
KAS19
Jun 18th 2001
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      RE: get to whitey
JKilla
Jun 18th 2001
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           DAMN I'm TIRED of Bible bashin OKP's!!
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           Actually
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           RE: Actually
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                RE: Actually
IllipticallyDefined
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           RE: get to whitey
835
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IllipticallyDefined
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                               where did you say He was?
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                                    RE: where did you say He was?
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                                         these words are ............
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%5 Nation, The Nation of the Gods and Earths...
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RE: %5 Nation, The Nation of the Gods and Earths...
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damn...
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what sparked this? well, to be honest...
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      some of them
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      you think...
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           it also stands for.....................
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                yeah, thats the one I usually think of
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      got it from NGE
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           RE: got it from NGE
IllipticallyDefined
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RE: explain the "black man is god" theory
bmig
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RE: explain the "black man is god" theory
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I dunno...
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      Definitions belong to the definer...
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           old argument...
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                No issue...
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i understand the sentiment........
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why do white people
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As a counterbalance..
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      balance
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           this is why...
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In the words of Dr. Na'im Akbar...
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GOOD QUOTE
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      MY BAD the actul quote goes...
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      Gen. 1:27
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      RE: Gen. 1:27
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           it's no mystery
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                RE: it's no mystery
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                RE: it's no mystery
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                     RE: it's no mystery
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                Any god will tell u...
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                     RE: Any god will tell u...
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                          UH-OH!:)
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                          say wha?
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                          it's all subjective
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                          RE: Any god will tell u...
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                               Explain the Kabbala Stone then
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                                    RE: Explain the Kabbala Stone then
IllipticallyDefined
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                          i got a question............
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                               seroiusly though,..................
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                                    RE: seroiusly though,..................
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                                         just so you know..................
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                                              RE: just so you know..................
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                               don't even get me started...
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                                    im sorry too, b/c ............
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                          RE: Any god will tell u...
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                          Lost your speaking privileges
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IllipticallyDefined
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After reading the whole thread
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           First off...
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      RE: After reading the whole thread
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god is black and black men are god are completly different issues
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RE: god is black and black men are god are completly different issues
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      nevermind
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           NO MAN IS GOD
835
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PEOPLE TO INBOX ABOUT THIS....
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RE: PEOPLE TO INBOX ABOUT THIS....
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THE BLACK MAN IS NOT GOD
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RE: THE BLACK MAN IS NOT GOD
IllipticallyDefined
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      MY POSITION
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           RE: MY POSITION
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           RE: MY POSITION
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           RE: MY POSITION
IllipticallyDefined
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Over simplistic...
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      math?
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Who is the 5%?
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if you really want to know
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IllipticallyDefined
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Question for you guys
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           RE: Question for you guys
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GOD= Giver of Destruction
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Medu Neter???!!??
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RE: Very Simple...
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NGE and the afterlife
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RE: NGE and the afterlife
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JESSEWA

Sat Jun-16-01 01:39 PM

  
1. "RE: explain the "black man is god" theory"
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this is definately not an answer to your question. i dont really know anything about this issue.
my only guess is that it might have some sort of relation to the 'out of africa' theories. Modern homo-sapiens originated in africa and proceeded to spread all over the planet.
however, there is some doubt to this, as homo erectus(DEFINATELY originated in africa) might have spread throughout the globe, THEN evolved into sapiens. they arent really sure.
sorry im not touching on the heart of your question. this just might have some relation to it.

  

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KemetShakur

Sat Jun-16-01 02:34 PM

  
2. "RE: explain the "black man is god" theory"
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it's a belief held by members of an amerikkkan Islamic sect (the five percent nation). That's all i know about it but i don't think they hole white folks very highly...smart mothafuckas. One Love.

  

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5. "some do, some don't..."
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>That's
>all i know about it
>but i don't think they
>hole white folks very highly...smart
>mothafuckas. One Love.

with the NGE, it's all relative.

some have white friends, some don't. all depends.


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3. "Out of Africa"
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That theory & the others based on it are always getting contested with new findings. Example: recently they found homo erectus fossils in the Yangtzee river valley that are as old as any fossil found in Africa. They're working around the clock to dig up as much as they can there because the site where the fossil was is going to be buried under a lake from the Three Gorges Dam project.

Just thought I'd throw that in there . . .

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Ami_Aura

Tue Jun-19-01 08:18 AM

  
88. "RE: explain the "black man is god" theory"
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The truth to the "god" theory is that no one group of people is god because the current concept of god isn't real. The "self" is the only thing that is anything close to what people believe to be 'god'... How would your life change if today you realized that there was no such thing as god, and it was all made up, and all a lie. Kinda like the santa clause and easter bunny story. what would you do? how would you feel?



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4. "from what I know...."
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I'm somewhat familiar with the 5% way of thinking on this, but feel free to correct me.

Mainly, it branches out of the idea that there is no "mystery spook god" in the "sky." That the Black man was once the most highly evolved being on the planet and that thru their way of life, they can reclaim this "god" status...

One 5%er actually said to me that the ancient Egyptians belived they themselves were "gods," but nothing I've read about ancient Egypt or their spirituality suggests that they thought of themselves that way. They considered themselves the most civilzed people on the planet, maybe, but not "gods"

I've also been told that the "goddess" concept was "overemphasized" in ancient Egypt and elsewhere, and that's part of the reason why Black women in the nation are "Earths" and not "goddesses" (i.e. not on par with their men...big difference between the connotation that goes with "god" and the one that goes with "planet").

Another thing I've found is that everyone sees/follows this "way of life" differently. So one 5%er (or group of 5%ers) might see his "god" status as totally different from another one/group.



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6. "What I think this means"
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Recent findings disputing the "Out of Africa" theories have been almost whole-heartedly disregarded b/c of a new authentication system that uses DNA, and DNA is not expected to survive for great lengths of time outside of cold environments, and similar remains (of the Australopithecus)elsewhere have not yielded ancient DNA. This means that some scientists have actually been manipulating hominid fossils solely to dispute...which sounds incrediblely shady to me.

Not to miss the point, the Black man is God thing arises from the support of the Out of Africa evidence and the fact that blacks all around the world are reproducing at relatively higher rates but most importantly, in comparison to all races, live longer when death is by natural causes. In other words, when all races/ethnicities are matched based on death by natural causes, blacks tend to outlive others.

There have been many theories about the connection of melanin to the immunity of numerous diseases...

personally, i think life did in fact start in Africa

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7. "RE: explain the "black man is god" theory"
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>Also,
>where does this school of
>thought leave whites? Thanks

no real answer, i concur with the "out of africa theory" posts, but another question... if "god" is "white" then where does that leave "blacks?"


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12. "thats different"
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if "God is white" that different than "God is all men of blackness"

  

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24. "RE: thats different"
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how so?
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47. "RE: thats different"
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if God was white, then all white men wouldn't necessarily be gods too. But the theory states that all black men are Gods, thats different

  

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123. "When We Speak of "GODS""
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Are we discussig polytheism, monotheism, or are we talking about RULER OF SELF AND MY CIRCUMFERENCE type god.
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Tue Jun-19-01 07:40 AM

  
78. "RE: explain the "black man is god" theory"
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God doesn't belong to any ethnicity or race. He made them. He also doesn't have a form like "the guy with the beard" image people tend to think of with Him. He exists outside of this existence...like this existence is a fishbowl and He chills outside of it.

Race doesn't matter. It's just that people made it matter because it's the first thing we see when we look at someone and some people need a reason to put down those who appear to be different.

  

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IllipticallyDefined

Tue Jun-19-01 04:55 PM

  
126. "RE: explain the "black man is god" theory"
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since when does God have a color? and why can't whites come from black? (the God of blackness)

  

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8. "they the devil"
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watch Wake Up by Brand Nubian.

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LOL

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KAS19

Mon Jun-18-01 07:16 AM

  
10. "RE: explain the "black man is god" theory"
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this "theory" is mainly recited by memebers of the nation of gods and earths and is one precept that i bare witness to.i think the problem with under or overstanding this statement is the defintion of the word "god".many people attach religious conotations to the word "god" automatically,we all do it as a form of conditioning,but the word is nothing more than a greek acronym meaning strength,wisdom,and beauty.these are all qualities that we possess.i know we are gods because of the greatness that we come from.we are genetically linked to the gods(egiptian,babylonian,sumerian,native american).we are the creative forces of the univeres manifest in physical form.we are the builders of civilization.my gods are my ancestors.

  

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11. "get to whitey"
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cause that's what potna is really asking about.

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13. "its like this:"
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if black men are gods, then, whats after this life, not only for them, but those who are not black. Also, if "God is black, and the devil is white" then what about people who are neither races?

  

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14. "I'm not NGE"
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But in general us American black folks will include other minorites underneath our umbrella.

But i'll let the other cats who know more speak on it.

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48. "RE: I'm not NGE"
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True, but what i wonder about is how big that umbrella is!? Asians, are they closer to the universal black god than whites? What about the tiny race of abourgines(sp)? Or the lapps/samis in the northern parts of this world? What about russians for that sake?

Also, i don't believe the BMIG theory seriously, because it seems to be too america-centered. There is a big world with a much greater number of races and cultures than you find in your local neighbourhood. White/black is mostly something you find in parts of africa and parts of northern america.

Using BMIG as a confidence builder is one (good) thing, but the other reasons seem to be bordering to hate.

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bmig

Tue Jun-19-01 02:42 PM

  
120. "I'm not NGE either..."
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I said THE BLACK MAN IS GOD, not the African American is god! Of course if you think about it, the concept isn't even new...where do you think it originated?

  

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139. "RE: I'm not NGE either..."
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Hm, i don't know - so i would like you to tell me if you do. Where did it originate? It seems (i assume, from what i have read) that it is a theory mostly used in america. Will the average african man go for ìt? Will the tunisean man on the street, the farmer in congo or the woman selling bread on the market in a village in senegal go for the theory?

Do they even know about it?!

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KemetShakur

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21. "RE: its like this:"
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Well in the instance that you are a half-and-half type of negro (like myself), at least in my experiences with myself and the mixed folks i know you really do choose one race over the other, i chose Black and so now people accept me as Black, Black folks that don't even know i'm mixed are callin me "brotha" just from the energy i give off. One Love.

  

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119. "RE: its like this:"
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i feel like biracial people have only recently been classified as such, regardless if your mom or dad was white, historically, you've always been black...can you really see anyone calling Halle Berry, Derek Jeter, or Nia Long anything other than black?

Question: Do u feel like you've received greater acceptance in the black community or has it been even?

"Forget the Dior bag, white men are the new carry-along"--Honey Mag.

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108. "RE: its like this:"
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Peace. If you aren't white, you're part of the original nation (Black)

Peace

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IllipticallyDefined

Tue Jun-19-01 05:01 PM

  
127. "RE: its like this:"
In response to Reply # 108


          

I've actually asked someone who has studied 5% about where the theory leaves whites and basically he said, if we were born (grafted) from blacks and blacks are God then we too are God since we come from God, but he also included that there are also black devils and that goes for every other race of people...

  

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15. "RE: get to whitey"
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I've been thinking about 5% ideas and I was starting to come to the conclusion that it's used as a tool to boost black's self esteem and give them confidence in their lives, because they are faced with many hardships from their skin color. Is this partially true?

So if it's purpose is to boost one's self-esteem, then what philosophical and spiritual qualities does it redeem? (besides the supreme mathematics)

Be Out (c) Mr. Lif


A conversation between two girls in
my science class about the
definitions of hip hop and rap...

Girl 1: Rap is like just talking.

Girl 2: Yeah! It’s like telling stories
and stuff. So what’s hip hop?

Girl 1: Hip hop is like those crazy
people from the south like mystikal
who yell “GET ON THA FLO” and
“SHAKE IT FAST WATCH YO SELF”.
Those guys are scary. It’s like jeez
why are they so mad?

Girl 2: Yeah I know.

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KAS19

Mon Jun-18-01 08:13 AM

  
16. "RE: get to whitey"
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as far as whitey goes,they can be gods(this may differ from what people in the n.o.g.e. feel but i'll explain).besides god meaning
"wisdom,strength,and beauty"we interpret god to mean "the one in control",or "ruler".if whitey ain't running things right now i don't know who is.so in a sense "whitey" is the god of our society because he rules it and makes things easier for him to do so.is whitey the "devil",that all depends on who you ask.i think you are a devil because of your ways and actions,and that doesn't mean that there are not black devils because we see them everyday so we can't ignore it.some people think white people are devils solely because they're white.i couldn't disagree more.
what i will say,is thru out history,we do see a tendency for disagreeableness in their genetic make up,moreso than in other races.

  

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JKilla

Mon Jun-18-01 08:49 AM

  
18. "RE: get to whitey"
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In each Book or Bible their 12 tribes of 12,000 people which equals 144,000. So that do include all people, but the Question should be the color of Jesus and the first man(Adam), not God. You see God is a spirit and not a man, but he made Jesus and the first man in the image of himself. We all know that the Garden of Eden was in Africa, and Jesus was Hebrew which originates in Africa(So that means Jesus was black and Adam was black)! One question that I can't understand is european whites their not mention in the bible, yet they claim to know the story of the world. That's why even though I'm a Christian I just don't study the bible because it was written by whites who felt we weren't in Gods plans. Only people you see in the Bible are from Africa and the Middle East Countries which are truly apart ove Africa! I'm not saying all people that are white will be going to hell, but I know that they wasn't the first man and Jesus was not white(Blonde hair and blue eyes)!

  

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26. "DAMN I'm TIRED of Bible bashin OKP's!!"
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BEING THAT YOU CAIM TO BE A "CHRISTIAN", As I once was, ITS YOUR DUTY TO STUDY THE BIBLE, EVEN THOUGH IT HAS BEEN TAAAAAAAMPERED WITH...WHY?

1.)The VERY PEOPLE TELLING YOU THE BIBLE STUDY IT AND BURY THE HISTORY OF THE HEBREWS WITH WHAT I CALL TWO WAY VERSES AND SERMONS...MEANING THE AMERICAN LIE/HALF TRUTH FILLED, "THIS IS THE WAY I'M SUPPOSED TO PREACH CUZ MY DADDY/MOMMY PREACHED IT TO ME THIS WAY"-TYPE PROPOGANDA....

2.)SAY WHAT YOU WANT ABOUT THE BIBLE, ITS HALF TRUTHS, ITS LIES, ITS MANY INTERPRETATIONS, AND THE WAY IT WAS USED TO FORCE AFRICAN PEOPLE OUT OF THEIR ORIGINAL CULTURES...BUT KNOW THIS:::

THE TRUE HEBREWS ARE DESCRIBED IN DEUTERONOMY CHAP 28...READ IT AND SEE IF THE PEOPLE YOU KNOW AS "JEWS" FIT THOSE CATEGORIES. NOW WHILE I MYSELF AM NOT A PROPONENT OF THIS VERSE, BECAUSE I DON'T FEEL THAT GOD WOULD ALLOW ITS ORIGINAL PEOPLE TO BE VICTIMIZED IN CHATTEL SLAVERY, I DO FEEL THAT IF ONE DOES ADHERE TO THE BIBLE, DON'T HALF STEP, ADHERE TO IT AND IT'S RULES FULLY AND THOSE RULES ALONE, (meaning no trinity for Christians, no "fathers" other than GOD, no confession to anyone OTHER than God, and we won't EVEN discuss marriage laws and age-boundaries I'll just say POLYGAM and FUCK that STATUTORY shit...), AND TAKE IN A FULL STUDY OF IT....THE HALF-TRUTHS THAT WILL LEAD YOU TO FULL TRUTH ARE IN THERE...

No fronting, A LOT OF THOSE LAWS are VERY RELEVANT...

IF YOUR REV./PASTOR/PREACHER DOSN'T DISCUSS THIS IN CHURCH THEN HE/SHE IS EITHER TRYING NOT TO TELL THE TRUTH THAT THEY HAVE STUDIED OR THEY ARE IDIOTS WHO SHOULDN'T BE PREACHING TO YOU!
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62. "Actually"
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Jesus was of jewish decent, meaning he was neither white or black.

  

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94. "RE: Actually"
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you obviously know nothing, you think the original jews were white, reseach ethiopian history for yourself, it will be a very uplifting experience. Like everything else that was stolen and misconscrewed add another one to your list.

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does everybody have a blackplanet account?It's fun why not?

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IllipticallyDefined

Tue Jun-19-01 05:09 PM

  
128. "RE: Actually"
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son, even though i don't agree w/ what arkitech said, he never stated jesus was white or the original jews..."Jesus was of jewish decent, meaning he was neither white or black."

  

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Tue Jun-19-01 08:03 AM

  
86. "RE: get to whitey"
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> That's why even though
>I'm a Christian I just
>don't study the bible because
>it was written by whites
>who felt we weren't in
>Gods plans.

You can't be a Christian and think the Bible was written by "whites that felt we weren't in God's plans". If you are a Christian, you have to acknowledge the Bible as the TRUE Word of God and take it for what it is and not a "tool of oppression" written by people with hidden agendas or whatever. If you see it as the true word of God, then you would know that God would not let His words be twisted into something they weren't (He's God afterall!)

People used it to opress, but that was by refusing the general public any access to the Bible so the guys in charge can pick and choose scriptures and use them out of place. That's why Martin Luther broke away from Catholicism.

I'm a Christian, but I don't belong to the Christianity one might think of. I don't go to church and I don't listen to any pastor (if all men are equal, then how could someone be closer to God than others?). My church is a forest and I am my pastor. I read from the Bible and other books and take from all of them.

All truth is God's truth.

As far as this main topic, it is a lie. NO man is God. I know that life originated in Africa, but it doesn't make a difference. Saying one type of people are above others is no different than the BS that the David Dukes of the world are trying to push.

I also believe there is a potential that all of us have, but few of us have reached because of the "modernization" of the world. We all come from the lines of warriors and self-sufficient people that didn't rely on a corporation or government to keep us living or protect us.

I'll shut up now.

  

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IllipticallyDefined

Tue Jun-19-01 05:11 PM

  
129. "RE: get to whitey"
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actually in simplest form, the true definition of a christian is 'a follwer of christ" so people need to stop telling me im not a christian because i don't believe christ was god or that he died for sins and shit like that, for christ's sake my first name is christian...

  

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107. "RE: get to whitey"
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peace

The biblical Adam is 6,000 years old, he wasn't the first man.

Cain killed Adam, then he went to Nod and knew his wife.

peace

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117. "RE: get to whitey"
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Peace

Pardon me, that should say Cain killed Abel.

Peace

God Freedom

>peace
>
>The biblical Adam is 6,000 years
>old, he wasn't the first
>man.
>
>Cain killed Adam, then he went
>to Nod and knew his
>wife.
>
>peace
>
>God Freedom



  

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32. "RE: explain the "black man is god" theory"
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>this "theory" is mainly recited by
>memebers of the nation of
>gods and earths and is
>one precept that i bare
>witness to.i think the problem
>with under or overstanding this
>statement is the defintion of
>the word "god".many people attach
>religious conotations to the word
>"god" automatically,we all do it
>as a form of conditioning,but
>the word is nothing more
>than a greek acronym meaning
>strength,wisdom,and beauty.these are all qualities
>that we possess.i know we
>are gods because of the
>greatness that we come from.we
>are genetically linked to the
>gods(egiptian,babylonian,sumerian,native american).we are the creative
>forces of the univeres manifest
>in physical form.we are the
>builders of civilization.my gods are
>my ancestors.

Put beautifully brotha. Any questions? I was also told by one brotha that GOD also equates to Knowledge of self, but if you have knowledge of self then you have strength,wisdom,beauty, and grace. All of these things the 5% Nations teaches and is evident in the way those who truley study carry themselves. Like anything else it has it's political and human drawbacks, but the essence of it builds the mind, body and soul. But besides the Afrikan Theory to why the black man is god. Also look at the melanin theory. Stating that the carbon and other elements that are within the pigment of black people are the main elements that make up the planet we walk. Carbon being the #1 element. And what color is Carbon? BLACK!! 5%Nation equates there teachings to other thins such as atoms and molecules/the study of space and the Universe;MATHEMATICS!!!

And this is how it relates to white folks. LOLOL!!
Ya'll crackaz be crraaackin me up!!
"It is thus that we must understand the origin of good(Heru) and Evil(Set). Unlike Judaism, Christianity,Zoroasterism, and Manicheism which framed Good and Evil as opposing attributes of the two highest divisions of reality-good, originating in God, and Evil, originating in an equally powerful entity-the Kamitic tradition classified them as expressions of Man's waking consciousness and will. We must note that the other religions got themselves into the bind of the conceptualizing a dark force that could fight God to a stalemate, because they minsinterpreted realitied like death, storms, earthquakes and other natural disasters as Evil. Unable to reconcile the reality of such events with their conception of God as the source of all good, they invented a coequal antagonist for God. Obviously, they failed to realize, to this day, that this belief has destroyed their claims of professing a monotheistic religion. Worse than that, by hidng from the Vast Majority of people the nature and source of evil-placing it outside of people's being, and giving it a superhuman, divine status that not even God can abolish-they have doomed mankind to the decadence and wars that have ravaged the world"-Ra Un Nefer Amen



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33. "RE: explain the "black man is god" theory"
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>the word is nothing more
>than a greek acronym meaning
>strength,wisdom,and beauty.

Please back up this statement with evidence.

  

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36. "RE: explain the "black man is god" theory"
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>
>>the word is nothing more
>>than a greek acronym meaning
>>strength,wisdom,and beauty.
>
>Please back up this statement with
>evidence.


Those who pick apart arguements with small pickey questions
Really have nothing to formulate in response to truth.

Do you know something to counter this claim. You know he's right deep within, but you fight the truth, that's the devil within you. Fighting what's natural, fighting the earth, fighting nature, fighting yourself....GOD.

"Now people...Where is your God/He lives inside of me/ and I say it's taken him so long/cause we got so faar to goooo. Where is your god/ Inside PLEASE LET HIM BE!!"--Stevie Wonder It is June.

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39. "RE: explain the "black man is god" theory"
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>Those who pick apart arguements with
>small pickey questions
>Really have nothing to formulate in
>response to truth.

This isn't a small pickey question. This whole movement is based largely on half-truths and complete lies. I don't really care what you believe, but when you try to pass it off as the truth, that's what I can't stand. This right here, is just one example, but it seems like it is representative of the whole 5% movement or ideology.

>
>Do you know something to counter
>this claim.

See, rather than actually showing evidence you choose to be reactionary. The burden is on the person making the claim that:

is nothing more
>>>than a greek acronym meaning
>>>strength,wisdom,and beauty. --This is not a widely accepted

notion, if I look up God in the dictionary, this is not what I
will see. So unless you provide evidence to believe otherwise, I will continue to believe that this is just ridiculousness and won't mind sharing that with others. This is exactly the type of thing I hate - heresay and conjecture being passed off as knowledge and truth.


  

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81. "RE: explain the "black man is god" theory"
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>notion, if I look up God
>in the dictionary, this is
>not what I
>will see. So unless you provide
>evidence to believe otherwise, I
>will continue to believe that
>this is just ridiculousness and
>won't mind sharing that with
>others. This is exactly the
>type of thing I hate
>- heresay and conjecture being
>passed off as knowledge and
>truth.

More like Oral tradition buster. There's much more to life outside of a book or dictionary that has a lotta false defenitions its self. What's your real problem with the N.O.G.E or %5 Nation? Your arguements are petty. If I said I was told another defenition meant Knowledge of Self wouldn't you relate that to strength,beauty, and wisdom? Like you would relate Aton-Ra to atom ray. Or Kametic Amen to Christian Amen. Formulate my friend. Why do you HATE. Your heart omits anger AZ. You sound smart though. lol
peaces
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85. "RE: explain the "black man is god" theory"
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Hey, I don't hate and I'm not angry at all, I didn't realize I was coming across that way. I just don't see any way to support these claims. You mention oral tradition. The Qur'an is an oral tradition going back 1400 years and it's definition of God also goes against what is said here. And this not petty, the concept of man as God seems to be a fundamental part of the NOGE.

  

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93. "RE: explain the "black man is god" theory"
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>Hey, I don't hate and I'm
>not angry at all, I
>didn't realize I was coming
>across that way. I just
>don't see any way to
>support these claims. You mention
>oral tradition. The Qur'an is
>an oral tradition going back
>1400 years and it's definition
>of God also goes against
>what is said here. And
>this not petty, the concept
>of man as God seems
>to be a fundamental part
>of the NOGE.

Right Right. Understand that the claim of man as God is a more upfront idealism than most religions. 5% Nation wants you to find God in self, just like Christianity, and Islam. Doesn't the bible say know self and you will know God? I'm not sure, but that's what I understand. Not that you are God, but God is within us, and we create a higher being and realm as a collective. But people find it so hard to realize AllAH's within. I'm sure you've heard them say ArmLegLegArmHead=ALLAH Most of us think God is some far out entity, "Sittin on a throne magic wand in his hand." We always look so far away for something magical, when the magic is in us all along.
You really shouldn't be so quick to be judgemental of 5% Nation. They're science is very deep. They also do so much for brothas in jail, or out trippin on the streets tryin to find God.



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95. "where did you say He was?"
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But people find it
>so hard to realize AllAH's
>within. I'm sure you've
>heard them say ArmLegLegArmHead=ALLAH Most
>of us think God is
>some far out entity, "Sittin
>on a throne magic wand
>in his hand." We
>always look so far away
>for something magical, when the
>magic is in us all
>along

Al-Baqara (The Cow) (Arabic) - Recite
2:255 Allah. There is no god but He,-the Living, the Self-subsisting, Eternal. No slumber can seize Him nor sleep. His are all things in the heavens and on earth. Who is there can intercede in His presence except as He permitteth? He knoweth what (appeareth to His creatures as) before or after or behind them. Nor shall they compass aught of His knowledge except as He willeth. His THRONE doth extend over the heavens and the earth, and He feeleth no fatigue in guarding and preserving them for He is the Most High, the Supreme (in glory).


Al-A'raf (The Heights) (Arabic) - Recite
7:54 Your Guardian-Lord is Allah, Who created the heavens and the earth in six days, and is firmly established on the THRONE (of authority): He draweth the night as a veil o'er the day, each seeking the other in rapid succession: He created the sun, the moon, and the stars, (all) governed by laws under His command. Is it not His to create and to govern? Blessed be Allah, the Cherisher and Sustainer of the worlds!


At-Tauba (The Repentance) (Arabic) - Recite
9:129 But if they turn away, Say: "(Allah) sufficeth me: there is no god but He: On Him is my trust,- He the Lord of the THRONE (of Glory) Supreme!"


Yunus (Jonah) (Arabic) - Recite
10:3 Verily your Lord is Allah, who created the heavens and the earth in six days, and is firmly established on the THRONE (of authority), regulating and governing all things. No intercessor (can plead with Him) except after His leave (hath been obtained). This is Allah your Lord; Him therefore serve ye: will ye not receive admonition?


Hud (The Prophet Hud) (Arabic) - Recite
1 He it is Who created the heavens and the earth in six Days - and His THRONE was over the waters - that He might try you, which of you is best in conduct. But if thou wert to say to them, "Ye shall indeed be raised up after death", the Unbelievers would be sure to say, "This is nothing but obvious sorcery!"


Ar-Ra'd (The Thunder) (Arabic) - Recite
13:2 Allah is He Who raised the heavens without any pillars that ye can see; is firmly established on the THRONE (of authority); He has subjected the sun and the moon (to his Law)! Each one runs (its course) for a term appointed. He doth regulate all affairs, explaining the signs in detail, that ye may believe with certainty in the meeting with your Lord.


Isra', The Night Journey, Children Of Israel (Arabic) - Recite
17:42 Say: If there had been (other) gods with Him, as they say,- behold, they would certainly have sought out a way to the Lord of the THRONE!


Ta-ha (Arabic) - Recite
20:5 ((Allah)) Most Gracious is firmly established on the THRONE(of authority).


The Prophets (Arabic) - Recite
21:22 If there were, in the heavens and the earth, other gods besides Allah, there would have been confusion in both! but glory to Allah, the Lord of the THRONE: (High is He) above what they attribute to Him!


The Believers (Arabic) - Recite
23:86 Say: "Who is the Lord of the seven heavens, and the Lord of the THRONE(of Glory) Supreme?"


The Believers (Arabic) - Recite
23:116 Therefore exalted be Allah, the King, the Reality: there is no god but He, the Lord of the THRONE of Honour!


The Criterion, The Standard (Arabic) - Recite
25:59 He Who created the heavens and the earth and all that is between, in six days, and is firmly established on the THRONE(of Authority): Allah Most Gracious: ask thou, then, about Him of any acquainted (with such things).

where did you say He was? Looks like He told us WHERE He was. You think it is possible that He does not know where Hes at, perhaps?



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who is Prophet Muhammad -salla Allahu 'alaihi wa sallam (peace be upon him)? click here to read his biography:
http://www.witness-pioneer.org/vil/Books/SM_tsn/

Narrated Aisha (Prophet Muhammad's wife):
The Prophet used to offer prayer at night (for such a long time) that his feet used to crack. I said, "O Allah's Apostle! Why do you do it since Allah has forgiven you your faults of the past and those to follow?" He said, "Shouldn't I love to be a thankful slave (of Allah)?' When he became old, he prayed while sitting, but if he wanted to perform a bowing, he wound get up, recite (some other verses) and then perform the bowing.

subhaanakallahumma (Glory be to you, Oh Allah), wabihamdika (and I praise You). ashhadu anla ilaha illa anta (I bear witness that none has the right to be worshipped except You). astaghfiruka (I seek Your forgiveness), wa attuubu ilaika (and I turn to You in Repentance).


  

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103. "RE: where did you say He was?"
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>
>subhaanakallahumma (Glory be to you, Oh
>Allah), wabihamdika (and I praise
>You). ashhadu anla ilaha illa
>anta (I bear witness that
>none has the right to
>be worshipped except You). astaghfiruka
>(I seek Your forgiveness), wa
>attuubu ilaika (and I turn
>to You in Repentance).

These words from the Quoran deffenitely hold value. But I'm formulate what's in your heart. Even the Quoran or Islam has Aryan influence (Western Influence).
BUT SPEAK FROM YOUR HEART BROTHA. ALL OF MY PEOPLE SPEAK FROM YOUR HEART. WHEN I SAY GOD WITHIN I'm NOT SAYIN BLACK MAN CAN PART OCEANS AND CRUSH MOUNTAINS. DAMN ARE ALL OF YA"LL THAT GULLIBLE? OPEN YOUR HEART PEOPLE. THE TRUTH IS ALREADY INSIDE OF YOU.



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110. "these words are ............"
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not from the qur'an. they are from the hadith.
>>
>>subhaanakallahumma (Glory be to you, Oh
>>Allah), wabihamdika (and I praise
>>You). ashhadu anla ilaha illa
>>anta (I bear witness that
>>none has the right to
>>be worshipped except You). astaghfiruka
>>(I seek Your forgiveness), wa
>>attuubu ilaika (and I turn
>>to You in Repentance).


>These words from the Quoran deffenitely
>hold value. But I'm
>formulate what's in your heart.
> Even the Quoran or
>Islam has Aryan influence (Western
>Influence).

what is that influence that you speak of?


>BUT SPEAK FROM YOUR HEART BROTHA.
> ALL OF MY PEOPLE
>SPEAK FROM YOUR HEART.
>WHEN I SAY GOD WITHIN
>I'm NOT SAYIN BLACK MAN
>CAN PART OCEANS AND CRUSH
>MOUNTAINS. DAMN ARE ALL
>OF YA"LL THAT GULLIBLE?
>OPEN YOUR HEART PEOPLE.
>THE TRUTH IS ALREADY INSIDE
>OF YOU.

ok. agreed. "I" understand. but there are those who do think otherwise. and to let what you said about "God being within" go unchecked without correction, it could possibly an affirmation for them and their beliefs, right?


Is it true he is not from the 19th Galaxy, but was released from the 19th precinct?! (c) Grand Royal about Dr. Malachi Z. York.

who is Prophet Muhammad -salla Allahu 'alaihi wa sallam (peace be upon him)? click here to read his biography:
http://www.witness-pioneer.org/vil/Books/SM_tsn/

Narrated Aisha (Prophet Muhammad's wife):
The Prophet used to offer prayer at night (for such a long time) that his feet used to crack. I said, "O Allah's Apostle! Why do you do it since Allah has forgiven you your faults of the past and those to follow?" He said, "Shouldn't I love to be a thankful slave (of Allah)?' When he became old, he prayed while sitting, but if he wanted to perform a bowing, he wound get up, recite (some other verses) and then perform the bowing.

subhaanakallahumma (Glory be to you, Oh Allah), wabihamdika (and I praise You). ashhadu anla ilaha illa anta (I bear witness that none has the right to be worshipped except You). astaghfiruka (I seek Your forgiveness), wa attuubu ilaika (and I turn to You in Repentance).


  

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17. "%5 Nation, The Nation of the Gods and Earths..."
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Developed through the phylosophy that the Black Man (Asiatic) Black man of Afrika was the first of all men. and God (Bible, Quran, Tora) made the original man in his own image. Farrakan, and other Nation of Islam supporters (which the Nation of the Gods and Earths is an offshout from) are ofter quoted on the topic.

White people = Devils. All other races have been oppressed, manipulated, and tormented by ...

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38. "RE: %5 Nation, The Nation of the Gods and Earths..."
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>White people = Devils. All other
>races have been oppressed, manipulated,
>and tormented by ...

Sorry to see you have that hate within you. How can that be?
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19. "damn..."
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I thought this post could only go one way, and now it's all over the place...lol

We got evolution theories, NGE, now the Jesus argument...

TotalRequest: what sparked this question? Who were you talking to? What were they referring to when they said they (or the black man) were "god"?

Everybody's coming from their own angles...I'm just curious as to what/who sparked you to ask the question.



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50. "what sparked this? well, to be honest..."
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Guru. I was listening to some Gangstarr and it broke the camals back. I wanted to know more about it. Goodie Mob too I guess. Its kinda sad, but these artists sparked an interest

  

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68. "some of them"
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are probably affiliated or have been affiliated w/ the NGE. Or ate least are familiar w/ their philosophy.

This whole topic is just...*sigh*...I don't even have a word for it...



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90. "you think..."
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"goodie mob means God is every man of blackness" cee-lo

  

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91. "it also stands for....................."
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>"goodie mob means God is every
>man of blackness" cee-lo

but did you forget "the GOOD DIE M-ostly O-ver B-ullshit!" (c)t-mo

and this one, i will concur with.


who is Prophet Muhammad -salla Allahu 'alaihi wa sallam (peace be upon him)? click here to read his biography:
http://www.witness-pioneer.org/vil/Books/SM_tsn/

Narrated Aisha (Prophet Muhammad's wife):
The Prophet used to offer prayer at night (for such a long time) that his feet used to crack. I said, "O Allah's Apostle! Why do you do it since Allah has forgiven you your faults of the past and those to follow?" He said, "Shouldn't I love to be a thankful slave (of Allah)?' When he became old, he prayed while sitting, but if he wanted to perform a bowing, he wound get up, recite (some other verses) and then perform the bowing.

subhaanakallahumma (Glory be to you, Oh Allah), wabihamdika (and I praise You). ashhadu anla ilaha illa anta (I bear witness that none has the right to be worshipped except You). astaghfiruka (I seek Your forgiveness), wa attuubu ilaika (and I turn to You in Repentance).

  

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99. "yeah, thats the one I usually think of"
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92. "got it from NGE"
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>Guru. I was listening to some
>Gangstarr and it broke the
>camals back. I wanted to
>know more about it. Goodie
>Mob too I guess. Its
>kinda sad, but these artists
>sparked an interest

so you know, guru got that from NGE. and i think he is in it.
goodie mob prob. got it from NGE too. but i dont think none of them are in it. in fact, im positive they werent as of the last standin album. after that, i dont know.


who is Prophet Muhammad -salla Allahu 'alaihi wa sallam (peace be upon him)? click here to read his biography:
http://www.witness-pioneer.org/vil/Books/SM_tsn/

Narrated Aisha (Prophet Muhammad's wife):
The Prophet used to offer prayer at night (for such a long time) that his feet used to crack. I said, "O Allah's Apostle! Why do you do it since Allah has forgiven you your faults of the past and those to follow?" He said, "Shouldn't I love to be a thankful slave (of Allah)?' When he became old, he prayed while sitting, but if he wanted to perform a bowing, he wound get up, recite (some other verses) and then perform the bowing.

subhaanakallahumma (Glory be to you, Oh Allah), wabihamdika (and I praise You). ashhadu anla ilaha illa anta (I bear witness that none has the right to be worshipped except You). astaghfiruka (I seek Your forgiveness), wa attuubu ilaika (and I turn to You in Repentance).

  

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132. "RE: got it from NGE"
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I thought most of the goodie mob were christians and one i think was a muslim, correct me if im wrong...

  

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20. "RE: explain the "black man is god" theory"
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I'm not a 5 percenter. I now understand that there is more to the "Out of Africa" theory. But for me, BMIG has little to do with these things. The Black Man Is God theory is a vebal refutation of all the things that previously reinforced the idea of god or "divinity" as white. I don't know where that leaves white people, and I don't have a blanket hatred towards them. We have felt and endured the affects of white supremacy language, images and values, and other forms of conditioning that have still in some ways paralyzed us as a whole to this day. BMIG combats the image of sambo. BMIG combats the image of a white jesus. BMIG uplifts black men that call themselves "nigga", and "dog" in any other convo. BMIG illustrates our position as the genetic blueprint for the entire human race. Most importantly, BMIG ain't nothing without its counterpart, BWIG!
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22. "RE: explain the "black man is god" theory"
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ya'll need to understand something. The only reason i (and a lot of people i know) use the word nigga is because of Tupac's definition Never Ignorant Getting Goals Accomplished, this is a term of Black empowerment forcing away the old title of "nigger" which means an ignorant person. One Love.

  

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23. "I dunno..."
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there are a lot of snappy acronyms for "bitch" too...

I've never heard the 2Pac usage before...it never even came up (to my knowledge) on the recent "nigger" discussion we had on this board. So how many people *really* know about it?

to the average ear, a bitch is a bitch is a bitch. Same with nigger. Or nigga.

but I digress...



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27. "Definitions belong to the definer..."
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If you ACCEPT the definition given to yo by someone else then you basically AGREE with the definer's usage of that word...

REMEMBER, words are nothing but AGREED UPON FORMS OF COMMUNICATION, CREATED BY MAN, RE-ENFORCED BY MAN, and ONLY EXECUTED by the vocal chords and tongue....

Which is why I have NO problem callin' a nigga a nigga, or My nigga. Why? Because the people I use it amongst KNOW EXACTLY WHEN, WHY, & HOW I USE IT.

What DO I have issue with? People who DON'T acknowledge my definitions, can't understand why I'm using them, HAVEN'T EARNED THEM, and don't know what and what areas NOT to use them...

I.E. Not only WHITE folks, but BLACK people who use the word nigga in front of white folks who CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE USE IT, or feel the way we use it is a funny thing for THEIR entertainment, to poke fun at the bullshit we been put thru, like in BAMBOOZLED, OR feel that the way we use it is a sign that they have had "Fantastic success" in the reprogramming of our minds...

Which is why I still use this term when it's time to get street, and when I get around more refined black people I use the terms BRUH and SIS. Does that cover it all?
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"old argument..."


  

          

I really wasn't trying to start anything...

Suffice it to say that, to me, it doesn't matter what you wrap it in. The gift is still the same.

I'm not knocking you or anyone else for using it. Sorry if it came off that way.

I choose not to use it. You choose to. You have your reasons, I have mine.





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58. "No issue..."
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I hope I didn't come off as the aggressor...I just get passionate about my defense of agreed upon sounds...Words in other words...no pun intended...But I, in no way am trying to convert you to MY precepts...Keep ya own...but uhmmm, just hoped to offer a clearer definition as to why people do such thangs...PEACE.
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63. "i understand the sentiment........"
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but isn't there a middle ground somewhere in there?????

BMIG is sort of......blasphemous......


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25. "why do white people"
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always gotta "be" some place?

not everything is about white people

i don't think bmig has got shit to do with white people. it's a combo of evolutionary reasoning and refutation of bwig

really with all the crazy shit out there makin black people look like idiots there has gotta be some reactionary sht to balance it out

that's right: balance- balance does not consist of lesser and/or equal- that still amounts to underweight

i don't think that 5% is an integrationist movement and therefore it has no responsibility, in my mind, to give white people their piece of the pie


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51. "As a counterbalance.."
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To me that was well said, but correct me if it is wrong. As a balance.

Sorry for trying to learn myself that BMIG is about counterbalancing(sp) against the white supremacy(sp), but i have to defend myself - i'm white. And i don't want to be a fake "black man", i dont think you want that shit either!

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73. "balance"
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let's put this in another way:
every tv show that we see here in america has a heterosexual premise. one tv show comes out with a homosexual premise, and everyone looks for the heterosexual addition, to balance the show out.

honestly, as a white person, i see privelidge saturating much of my interactions with people on a daily basis. and i'm sick of it. i'm ready to stand on my own, and i wanna know how i'd do when standing on my own, so i'm gonna fight for equality, even if it means that sometimes i'm not gonna be on the better or equal end. so if without all my white priveledges i'd be on a streetcorner sleepin in a damned box then so be it because it's my damned box and i deserve it. at least for once i could know where i REALLY stand.

what can i call mine as it is? can i truly say that i deserved my college education because i was the smartest? hell no. because i saw too many damned people who were smarter than me being passed up for the same opportunities or not given a choice. and it took me a long time to realize that the reason why i couldn't call volunteer work charity work is because i don't believe in charity. everything that i possess is mine because other people who also deserved a piece of it didn't get it.

and i really wish i could spread that feeling of illegitimacy to other white people so that we could all get past the bullshit and truly see equality instead of talking about equality and balance in these peaches and light ways. and no, i'm not talking about "white guilt."

no, i don't believe that "god himself" is personified exclusively by black men, but i do believe that god the spirit is a deep and true element in every human being, and it is that element in everyone that gives people worth. all other assignment of worth is just people being power hungry and irrational.

and after so much history of this god is white crap, some different measures need to be taken to take back anyone who woulda thought that white god didn't apply and then just rejected god. if some people need to assign a skin color to tehir god, then i hope to hell they assign their own, so that they can see in whatever way they need to that they are reflections of a divine spirit.

now that speech has been a long time coming, and you just recieved the brunt of it.





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74. "this is why..."
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I love you!!!!

*hugs*

that was SO on point.

(and I ain't just sayin that 'cause I'm Black lmao )




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28. "In the words of Dr. Na'im Akbar..."
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A MAN YOU ALL SHOULD HEAR ONCE BEFORE YOU DIE LIKE FARRAKHAN...
Brutha has a speaking style like Khalid Muhammad...
but anyway...(I'm listening to the tape I own and thinking to myself, "Chuck D prolly goes to bed at night, and DREAMS of gaining this man's speaking ability"). Anyway, THIS ISN'T THE TAPE SO I'LL USE THE CORE MESSAGE...

"In terms of self-resect and BUILDING, instead of recognizing the malice in others to BUILD ourselves, we should instead recognize divinity in ourselves."
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30. "GOOD QUOTE"
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"In terms of self-resect and BUILDING, instead of recognizing the malice in others to BUILD ourselves, we should instead recognize divinity in ourselves."


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57. "MY BAD the actul quote goes..."
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"STOP LOOKING TO OTHERS TO FIND THE GOOD IN YOURSELVES...You don't need to portray the white man as the devil!! Instead, we need to portray divinity looking like ourselves...Big nose...Nappy Hair...High Cheek Bones...DARK, skin...Big, BIG, Butts!!!"


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29. "RE: explain the "black man is god" theory"
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The Black Man is the Original Man created in God's image

"...all these emcees hollarin', they lactose intolerant, they can't touch the cheese"-Beanie Siegel

"I'm like the Gooch, lookin for Arnold Drummond
Walkin with a trenchcoat to part the pump in"-Redman

"I'm like Malcolm with just the X, these bitches think they in love, but it's just the X"-Noreaga

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31. "RE: explain the "black man is god" theory"
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>The Black Man is the Original
>Man created in God's image

According to who/what is man created in God's image?

  

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34. "Gen. 1:27"
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U mean tell me, u neva heard that Man was created in God's image!?!!


"...all these emcees hollarin', they lactose intolerant, they can't touch the cheese"-Beanie Siegel

"I'm like the Gooch, lookin for Arnold Drummond
Walkin with a trenchcoat to part the pump in"-Redman

"I'm like Malcolm with just the X, these bitches think they in love, but it's just the X"-Noreaga

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35. "RE: Gen. 1:27"
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Oh, so 5%ers are Christian?

  

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37. "it's no mystery"
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that's not what I said, is that what u read?

I coulda sworn u asked where it says so, u don't have to be god body to feel as if u were created in the Most High's image! Are u familiar with the Qu'ran?! Adam is recognized in Islam, so is Jesus, Abraham, Isma'il, Isaac, & Jacob. In the 32nd surah, 7th ayat, it explains how man was created from clay in Allah's likeness.

"...all these emcees hollarin', they lactose intolerant, they can't touch the cheese"-Beanie Siegel

"I'm like the Gooch, lookin for Arnold Drummond
Walkin with a trenchcoat to part the pump in"-Redman

"I'm like Malcolm with just the X, these bitches think they in love, but it's just the X"-Noreaga

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My eye's the vision, memory is the film"-Killah Priest


  

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40. "RE: it's no mystery"
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So how do 5%ers choose what parts of the Qur'an and Bible they want to believe.

Are u familiar
>with the Qu'ran?! Adam is
>recognized in Islam, so is
>Jesus, Abraham, Isma'il, Isaac, &
>Jacob. In the 32nd surah,
>7th ayat, it explains how
>man was created from clay
>in Allah's likeness.

Yeah, I'm familiar with the Quran. I don't see anything that says that man was created in Allah's likeness.

032.007
YUSUFALI: He Who has made everything which He has created most good: He began the creation of man with (nothing more than) clay,
PICKTHAL: Who made all things good which He created, and He began the creation of man from clay;
SHAKIR: Who made good everything that He has created, and He began the creation of man from dust.




  

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42. "RE: it's no mystery"
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It's not a choice, it's in the Supreme Mathematics, Alphabet, and Plus Lessons/Degrees. Islam is the culture of 5%ers, so the Qu'ran/Koran is used as a reference. I saw the quote u cut and pasted, but the web is limited, I'll look in my Qu'ran for a betta reference.



"...all these emcees hollarin', they lactose intolerant, they can't touch the cheese"-Beanie Siegel

"I'm like the Gooch, lookin for Arnold Drummond
Walkin with a trenchcoat to part the pump in"-Redman

"I'm like Malcolm with just the X, these bitches think they in love, but it's just the X"-Noreaga

"I'm overwhelmed, as my mind, roams the realm
My eye's the vision, memory is the film"-Killah Priest


  

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44. "RE: it's no mystery"
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>It's not a choice, it's in
>the Supreme Mathematics, Alphabet, and
>Plus Lessons/Degrees. Islam is the
>culture of 5%ers,

why?

so the
>Qu'ran/Koran is used as a
>reference. I saw the quote
>u cut and pasted, but
>the web is limited, I'll
>look in my Qu'ran for
>a betta reference.

These three interpretations/translations are acknowledged by Arabic/English experts are the best representations of the true, untouched Qur'an. But I'm interested in seeing your better reference as well as the author.

  

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41. "Any god will tell u..."
In response to Reply # 37


  

          

That black people are the original people of the planet Earth.

That black people are the fathers and mothers of civilization.

That the Blackman is god and his proper name is ALLAH . Arm, Leg, Leg, Arm, Head.




"...all these emcees hollarin', they lactose intolerant, they can't touch the cheese"-Beanie Siegel

"I'm like the Gooch, lookin for Arnold Drummond
Walkin with a trenchcoat to part the pump in"-Redman

"I'm like Malcolm with just the X, these bitches think they in love, but it's just the X"-Noreaga

"I'm overwhelmed, as my mind, roams the realm
My eye's the vision, memory is the film"-Killah Priest


  

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43. "RE: Any god will tell u..."
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>That black people are the original
>people of the planet Earth.

What is the importance of this? Does this mean that black people are superior?

>
>
>That black people are the fathers
>and mothers of civilization.

The birthplace of civilization, according to archeologists, was in Mesopotamia. Located in what is modern day Baghdad.
But let's say you're right. What is the importance of this? Does this mean that black people are superior?

>
>That the Blackman is god and
>his proper name is ALLAH
>. Arm, Leg, Leg, Arm,
>Head.

Why is his proper name ALLAH? What is significant about Arm, Leg, Leg, Arm, Head? Why not heart, brain, liver, kidney, kidney?

  

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52. "UH-OH!:)"
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>
>The birthplace of civilization, according to
>archeologists, was in Mesopotamia. Located
>in what is modern day
>Baghdad.



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67. "say wha?"
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>The birthplace of civilization, according to
>archeologists, was in Mesopotamia. Located
>in what is modern day
>Baghdad.

"civilization" or mankind? the "birthplace of civilization" may be debatable to some, but the birthplace of mankind was most likely southeastern Africa--Tanzania to be exact.



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69. "RE: Any god will tell u..."
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>>That black people are the original
>>people of the planet Earth.
>
>What is the importance of this?

Because the school systems tell you that the white man created the sun moon and stars. With no refutation, and nothing but support from their sources. Indeed, the whole thought process behind that is so thoroughly European it's like me saying 2 +2=5. White folks can't deal with it.

>Does this mean that black
>people are superior?

It's a refutation of white superiority, so I guess that's what it says. The black man is god, the white man is the devil.


>The birthplace of civilization, according to
>archeologists, was in Mesopotamia. Located
>in what is modern day
>Baghdad.

And what interests do these archeologists serve? Like they're blindly looking for the truth. Archeology is not rigorous science, so it fails even under a western view.

>But let's say you're right. What
>is the importance of this?
>Does this mean that black
>people are superior?

If we are God, we need to realize this and Wake Up.

>Why is his proper name ALLAH?
>What is significant about Arm,
>Leg, Leg, Arm, Head? Why
>not heart, brain, liver, kidney,
>kidney?

Do you want to play semantics?

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70. "RE: Any god will tell u..."
In response to Reply # 43


  

          

>>That black people are the original
>>people of the planet Earth.
>
>What is the importance of this?
>Does this mean that black
>people are superior?

It doesn't say that at all, it's just one of the basic teachings of 5%ers and science hasn't really said otherwise.

>>That black people are the fathers
>>and mothers of civilization.
>
>The birthplace of civilization, according to
>archeologists, was in Mesopotamia. Located
>in what is modern day
>Baghdad.

Syria can also make claim to being the cradle of civilization, it just really depends on who u ask. At any rate, most studies place the start of civilization in a fairly close proximity and the evidence found, supports the fact, that the indigenous people were Black.

>But let's say you're right. What
>is the importance of this?
>Does this mean that black
>people are superior?



>>That the Blackman is god and
>>his proper name is ALLAH
>>. Arm, Leg, Leg, Arm,
>>Head.
>
>Why is his proper name ALLAH?

The Arabic word Allah means God (the one and only true God who created the whole universe). This word Allah is a name for God, which is used by Arabic speakers, both Arab Muslims and Arab Christians. This word cannot be used to designate anything other than the one true God. The Arabic word Allah occurs in the Qur'an more than 2150 times. In Aramaic, a language related closely to Arabic and the language that Jesus habitually spoke God is also referred to as Allah.

>What is significant about Arm,
>Leg, Leg, Arm, Head? Why
>not heart, brain, liver, kidney,
>kidney?

If a body is laid down and u draw a line from the arm, leg, leg, arm, head, it forms a circle or cypher, the cypher represents 360 degrees or completion. It's more symbolic than anything. It's so much deeper than that, but this is the internet and I can't go into too much detail, because the NGE discourages just putting out too much information in this type of forum. That's why it's more or less passed on from one to another, u can't just get a pamphlet or anything on the Nation of Gods & Earths. It filters out the non-believers, pretenders and others that may want to distort the message.

My responses are to the original post "explain the "black man is god theory". I have studied theology, but I'm no authority on the subject. I don't put a label on myself or limit my learning. I think it's being pretty arrogant to believe, there is only one valid culture/religion. Prophets received messages from God and those same prophets are mentioned in the Qu'ran, Bible, and Torah, but they were translated and interpreted by man, so it's up to the individual to decide, what to take literally and figuratively. In the Qu'ran, it states that man was created to be a vicegerent, to have God's will and ask for and understand love, no other creature has exhibited the same attributes. It's best summed up by the statement "Whatever good, happens to man is from Allah, but whatever evil happens to man is from his own doing". Other creatures don't strive to be divine or closer to God and some view this as a sign that man was created in God's image.

"...all these emcees hollarin', they lactose intolerant, they can't touch the cheese"-Beanie Siegel

"I'm like the Gooch, lookin for Arnold Drummond
Walkin with a trenchcoat to part the pump in"-Redman

"I'm like Malcolm with just the X, these bitches think they in love, but it's just the X"-Noreaga

"I'm overwhelmed, as my mind, roams the realm
My eye's the vision, memory is the film"-Killah Priest


  

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71. "RE: Any god will tell u..."
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. Prophets
>received messages from God and
>those same prophets are mentioned
>in the Qu'ran, Bible, and
>Torah, but they were translated
>and interpreted by man, so
>it's up to the individual
>to decide, what to take
>literally and figuratively. In the
>Qu'ran, it states that man
>was created to be a
>vicegerent, to have God's will
>and ask for and understand
>love, no other creature has
>exhibited the same attributes. It's
>best summed up by the
>statement "Whatever good, happens to
>man is from Allah, but
>whatever evil happens to man
>is from his own doing".


>Other creatures don't strive to
>be divine or closer to
>God and some view this
>as a sign that man
>was created in God's image.

This part right here is a huge leap, and is totally unIslamic and not based on the Qur'an at all. Which makes me wonder why 5%ers use the Qur'an at all, when it totally goes against their teachings?

  

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72. "it's all subjective"
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>This part right here is a
>huge leap, and is totally
>unIslamic and not based on
>the Qur'an at all. Which
>makes me wonder why 5%ers
>use the Qur'an at all,
>when it totally goes against
>their teachings?

I don't know what Grand_Royal's (forgive me if I misspelled/mis-reproduced the name) response would be, but from personal experience, the whole 5% doctrine appears to be totally subjective. You take it the way you want to take it, based on what your teacher (or "enlightener" as I've heard them referred to) and you decide is "right."

Some use the Koran, some don't.

Some pray, some don't.

*shrug*



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82. "RE: it's all subjective"
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>>This part right here is a
>>huge leap, and is totally
>>unIslamic and not based on
>>the Qur'an at all. Which
>>makes me wonder why 5%ers
>>use the Qur'an at all,
>>when it totally goes against
>>their teachings?
>
>I don't know what Grand_Royal's (forgive
>me if I misspelled/mis-reproduced the
>name) response would be, but
>from personal experience, the whole
>5% doctrine appears to be
>totally subjective. You take it
>the way you want to
>take it, based on what
>your teacher (or "enlightener" as
>I've heard them referred to)
>and you decide is "right."
>
>
>Some use the Koran, some don't.
>
>
>Some pray, some don't.
>
>*shrug*

Yeah that's it for the most part, like someone stated earlier, it was used to combat all the negativity and brainwashing associated with being Black. Some don't use the Koran, all claim to be righteous, but many are not.


  

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111. "RE: it's all subjective"
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Peace
That depends on your definition of righteous. It's relative. Peace


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76. "RE: Any god will tell u..."
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>. Prophets
>>received messages from God and
>>those same prophets are mentioned
>>in the Qu'ran, Bible, and
>>Torah, but they were translated
>>and interpreted by man, so
>>it's up to the individual
>>to decide, what to take
>>literally and figuratively. In the
>>Qu'ran, it states that man
>>was created to be a
>>vicegerent, to have God's will
>>and ask for and understand
>>love, no other creature has
>>exhibited the same attributes. It's
>>best summed up by the
>>statement "Whatever good, happens to
>>man is from Allah, but
>>whatever evil happens to man
>>is from his own doing".
>
>
>>Other creatures don't strive to
>>be divine or closer to
>>God and some view this
>>as a sign that man
>>was created in God's image.
>
>This part right here is a
>huge leap, and is totally
>unIslamic and not based on
>the Qur'an at all. Which
>makes me wonder why 5%ers
>use the Qur'an at all,
>when it totally goes against
>their teachings?

As far as God being the good in man is directly from the Qu'ran, it's not verbatim, but there are similar passages. The one thing that is not Islamic is race, the Qu'ran does not teach racial superiority. So no, I don't think the NOI or NGE are indicative of Islam.


"...all these emcees hollarin', they lactose intolerant, they can't touch the cheese"-Beanie Siegel

"I'm like the Gooch, lookin for Arnold Drummond
Walkin with a trenchcoat to part the pump in"-Redman

"I'm like Malcolm with just the X, these bitches think they in love, but it's just the X"-Noreaga

"I'm overwhelmed, as my mind, roams the realm
My eye's the vision, memory is the film"-Killah Priest


  

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125. "Explain the Kabbala Stone then"
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Big men feeling small
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They won't go where I go-

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135. "RE: Explain the Kabbala Stone then"
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someone explain it for me too...

  

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75. "i got a question............"
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>>>That the Blackman is god and
>>>his proper name is ALLAH
>>>. Arm, Leg, Leg, Arm,
>>>Head.
>>
>>Why is his proper name ALLAH?
>
>The Arabic word Allah means God
>(the one and only true
>God who created the whole
>universe). This word Allah
>is a name for God,
>which is used by Arabic
>speakers, both Arab Muslims and
>Arab Christians. This word
>cannot be used to designate
>anything other than the one
>true God. The Arabic
>word Allah occurs in the
>Qur'an more than 2150 times.
> In Aramaic, a language
>related closely to Arabic and
>the language that Jesus habitually
>spoke God is also referred
>to as Allah.
>
>>What is significant about Arm,
>>Leg, Leg, Arm, Head? Why
>>not heart, brain, liver, kidney,
>>kidney?
>
>If a body is laid down
>and u draw a line
>from the arm, leg, leg,
>arm, head, it forms a
>circle or cypher, the cypher
>represents 360 degrees or completion.
>It's more symbolic than anything.
>It's so much deeper than
>that, but this is the
>internet and I can't go
>into too much detail, because
>the NGE discourages just putting
>out too much information in
>this type of forum.

if ALLAH is an ARABIC WORD for GOD, an ENGLISH WORD, how does the ENGLISH LETTERS at the beginning of the ENGLISH WORDS: Arm, Leg, and Head, correspond to the ARABIC LETTERS in ALLAH, an ARABIC WORD?

who is Prophet Muhammad -salla Allahu 'alaihi wa sallam (peace be upon him)? click here to read his biography:
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Narrated Aisha (Prophet Muhammad's wife):
The Prophet used to offer prayer at night (for such a long time) that his feet used to crack. I said, "O Allah's Apostle! Why do you do it since Allah has forgiven you your faults of the past and those to follow?" He said, "Shouldn't I love to be a thankful slave (of Allah)?' When he became old, he prayed while sitting, but if he wanted to perform a bowing, he wound get up, recite (some other verses) and then perform the bowing.

subhaanakallahumma (Glory be to you, Oh Allah), wabihamdika (and I praise You). ashhadu anla ilaha illa anta (I bear witness that none has the right to be worshipped except You). astaghfiruka (I seek Your forgiveness), wa attuubu ilaika (and I turn to You in Repentance).

  

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77. "RE: i got a question............"
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Very good point, that's exactly why I found it hard to follow alot of the teachings.


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80. "seroiusly though,.................."
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>Very good point, that's exactly why
>I found it hard to
>follow alot of the teachings.

if the foundation is flawed (the foundation of nge- being that man is ALLAH- arm leg leg arm head), why follow anything else that proceeds that. i personally wouldnt follow ANY if the foundation wasnt correct.

so why do you still follow some (those that are the "alot" you mentioned above)?
>
>
>"...all these emcees hollarin', they lactose
>intolerant, they can't touch the
>cheese"-Beanie Siegel
>
>"I'm like the Gooch, lookin for
>Arnold Drummond
>Walkin with a trenchcoat to part
>the pump in"-Redman
>
>"I'm like Malcolm with just the
>X, these bitches think they
>in love, but it's just
>the X"-Noreaga
>
>"I'm overwhelmed, as my mind, roams
>the realm
>My eye's the vision, memory is
>the film"-Killah Priest


who is Prophet Muhammad -salla Allahu 'alaihi wa sallam (peace be upon him)? click here to read his biography:
http://www.witness-pioneer.org/vil/Books/SM_tsn/

Narrated Aisha (Prophet Muhammad's wife):
The Prophet used to offer prayer at night (for such a long time) that his feet used to crack. I said, "O Allah's Apostle! Why do you do it since Allah has forgiven you your faults of the past and those to follow?" He said, "Shouldn't I love to be a thankful slave (of Allah)?' When he became old, he prayed while sitting, but if he wanted to perform a bowing, he wound get up, recite (some other verses) and then perform the bowing.

subhaanakallahumma (Glory be to you, Oh Allah), wabihamdika (and I praise You). ashhadu anla ilaha illa anta (I bear witness that none has the right to be worshipped except You). astaghfiruka (I seek Your forgiveness), wa attuubu ilaika (and I turn to You in Repentance).

  

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83. "RE: seroiusly though,.................."
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>>Very good point, that's exactly why
>>I found it hard to
>>follow alot of the teachings.
>
>if the foundation is flawed (the
>foundation of nge- being that
>man is ALLAH- arm leg
>leg arm head), why follow
>anything else that proceeds that.
>i personally wouldnt follow ANY
>if the foundation wasnt correct.
>
>
>so why do you still follow
>some (those that are the
>"alot" you mentioned above)?

Where does it say I do follow anything mentioned. Have u heard the expression, "don't kill the messenger"? I'm adding what I know to the discussion, it does not mean this is what I follow. One of the Lessons, teaches u that the Earth is 93,000,000 miles from the sun, this changes slightly because of the time of the year, but is as a fact. So I guess I do believe some of what is taught and I wouldn't have paid that much attention to it, if not mentioned in my Lessons, so there are positive things that can be taken from NGE.

  

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87. "just so you know.................."
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>>>Very good point, that's exactly why
>>>I found it hard to
>>>follow alot of the teachings.

>Where does it say I do
>follow anything mentioned.

it doesnt say you DO, but DID above: >>>I found it hard to
>>>follow alot of the teachings

if you say you found it hard to follow alot, that means that there are some (what is left from the deduction of "alot") you found easy to follow, like the earth being 93,000,000 miles from the sun.

who is Prophet Muhammad -salla Allahu 'alaihi wa sallam (peace be upon him)? click here to read his biography:
http://www.witness-pioneer.org/vil/Books/SM_tsn/

Narrated Aisha (Prophet Muhammad's wife):
The Prophet used to offer prayer at night (for such a long time) that his feet used to crack. I said, "O Allah's Apostle! Why do you do it since Allah has forgiven you your faults of the past and those to follow?" He said, "Shouldn't I love to be a thankful slave (of Allah)?' When he became old, he prayed while sitting, but if he wanted to perform a bowing, he wound get up, recite (some other verses) and then perform the bowing.

subhaanakallahumma (Glory be to you, Oh Allah), wabihamdika (and I praise You). ashhadu anla ilaha illa anta (I bear witness that none has the right to be worshipped except You). astaghfiruka (I seek Your forgiveness), wa attuubu ilaika (and I turn to You in Repentance).

  

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89. "RE: just so you know.................."
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>>>>Very good point, that's exactly why
>>>>I found it hard to
>>>>follow alot of the teachings.
>
>>Where does it say I do
>>follow anything mentioned.
>
>it doesnt say you DO, but DID above: >>>I found it hard to
>>>>follow alot of the teachings

you're repeating yourself, if this must come down to semantics, "found" is past tense, so it does not mean I do NOW, that is exactly why it is phrased as it is.

>if you say you found it
>hard to follow alot, that
>means that there are some
>(what is left from the
>deduction of "alot") you found
>easy to follow, like the
>earth being 93,000,000 miles from
>the sun.

I looked it up, that is why I believe the average distance from the sun is 93,000,000 miles. There is a difference, that was an example I used, to point out that there are "actual" facts taught.

  

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79. "don't even get me started..."
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>if ALLAH is an ARABIC WORD
>for GOD, an ENGLISH WORD,
>how does the ENGLISH LETTERS
>at the beginning of the
>ENGLISH WORDS: Arm, Leg, and
>Head, correspond to the ARABIC
>LETTERS in ALLAH, an ARABIC
>WORD?

I have a TON of issues w/ the NGE lately...lol.

I'm surprised my posts haven't been as angry as they could have been...but I try to keep the peace when I can...


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96. "RE: i got a question............"
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>
>if ALLAH is an ARABIC WORD
>for GOD, an ENGLISH WORD,
>how does the ENGLISH LETTERS
>at the beginning of the
>ENGLISH WORDS: Arm, Leg, and
>Head, correspond to the ARABIC
>LETTERS in ALLAH, an ARABIC
>WORD?

As I said before. I was taught that God meant Knowledge of Self.
But Sorry AZ I don't have a Websters or a Greek Thesaurus here at work.
>

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97. "im sorry too, b/c ............"
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im not az, im ab.....duhu, that is.
i wrote that
>
>>
>>if ALLAH is an ARABIC WORD
>>for GOD, an ENGLISH WORD,
>>how does the ENGLISH LETTERS
>>at the beginning of the
>>ENGLISH WORDS: Arm, Leg, and
>>Head, correspond to the ARABIC
>>LETTERS in ALLAH, an ARABIC
>>WORD?
>
>As I said before. I
>was taught that God meant
>Knowledge of Self.

well, reread the qur'an to see what Allah (God) Says about Allah (God), so you can have a clearer picture.

>But Sorry AZ I don't have
>a Websters or a Greek
>Thesaurus here at work.
>>

see above. the top of this post as a matter of fact.

Is it true he is not from the 19th Galaxy, but was released from the 19th precinct?! (c) Grand Royal about Dr. Malachi Z. York.

who is Prophet Muhammad -salla Allahu 'alaihi wa sallam (peace be upon him)? click here to read his biography:
http://www.witness-pioneer.org/vil/Books/SM_tsn/

Narrated Aisha (Prophet Muhammad's wife):
The Prophet used to offer prayer at night (for such a long time) that his feet used to crack. I said, "O Allah's Apostle! Why do you do it since Allah has forgiven you your faults of the past and those to follow?" He said, "Shouldn't I love to be a thankful slave (of Allah)?' When he became old, he prayed while sitting, but if he wanted to perform a bowing, he wound get up, recite (some other verses) and then perform the bowing.

subhaanakallahumma (Glory be to you, Oh Allah), wabihamdika (and I praise You). ashhadu anla ilaha illa anta (I bear witness that none has the right to be worshipped except You). astaghfiruka (I seek Your forgiveness), wa attuubu ilaika (and I turn to You in Repentance).


  

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109. "RE: Any god will tell u..."
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Peace. The fact that Black people are the original people of the planet Earth gives us a home. Some people think America is their home, others Africa; we teach that the whole Earth is ours. But that which you are quoting 'What we teach' was wrote by one God. That's nothing 'official' The only thing that you will find common with all of us, is that we teach that the Black man is God. Our duty is to teach knowledge and wisdom. 'arm leg leg arm head' that stuff is symbolism. Many of the teachings are symbolism and allegorical. I don't even use that 'arm leg leg arm head' lol If you want to understand this, you're going to have to study from within. Peace


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133. "Lost your speaking privileges"
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HTP

>The birthplace of civilization, according to
>archeologists, was in Mesopotamia. Located
>in what is modern day
>Baghdad.


After all you shout about "orientalists" and you have the AUDACITY to follow/proclaim this sort of pitiful scholarship. Please say this is a joke, if not...

Okayactivist pass REVOKED.

Come correct or don't come at all.

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148. "RE: Lost your speaking privileges"
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>Okayactivist pass REVOKED.

I think okayprobation is more in order. Be leanient on me

  

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bmig

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64. "RE: explain the "black man is god" theory"
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In most religious books, Man was created in the image of God. In Buddhism, their Godhead is Asian. In Christianity, their figurehead is White. In Judaism, their depiction of Abraham is "Jewish" (even though that is not a race). In Native American culture, the godhead is Native American, and they celebrate the lives of their ancestors. What's wrong with the Black Man worshipping the Creator in his own image? The Creator is unexplainable, he cannot be defined or categorised as a man or even a spirit. He is the ALL. Nothing can be added or taken away. For me, to even describe "Him" using words like "He " or "She" is incorrect, but I know of no other way.
The last thing I wanna add is that even though I still use the word nigga, I am making a conscious effort to uplift when I address my peoples as "god". And I know that there is a great distinction between god and the Creator, no matter what books you read. But if the Bible is your thing, read John 10:34.
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136. "RE: explain the "black man is god" theory"
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"ye are gods"

you got to recognize though when christianity first started before constantine, jesus wasn't white... christianity at that time was just another sect of judaism

  

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45. "After reading the whole thread"
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...being shaked up inside, thinking i am white and not connected to the universal God, i hope it's not true hate within the Black man is God theory.

It sounds as a good way of understanding and following the theory by using it as the opposite to White man is God, and not as a way to say you are better than someone else.

I'm walking a thin line now.. but using BMIG to build confidence is one thing, using it to say your race is supreme is much worse. Saying your race is supreme and that the white race is the devil is (or borders to) hate.

When, in modern days, was the White man is God theory clearly used? Is it in use all the time?!

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46. "RE: After reading the whole thread"
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I meant to say
"but using BMIG to build confidence is a good thing"

And confidence within blacks of course, specially in america. We all know why.

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59. "RE: After reading the whole thread"
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>And confidence within blacks of course,
>specially in america. We all
>know why.

No I don't know why? Care to elaborate?
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61. "RE: After reading the whole thread"
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I thought we all knew. But i'm not the one to tell how it really is...

I meant that if the whole Black man is God theory is used, it is prolly to build confidence for black men. That is a good thing, it can't be a bad thing. What is worse is when you use BMIG to say that black man is God and the rest is Devil.

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122. "First off..."
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After everything we survived, created, and DOMINATED (genetics especially) trust we need NO reason to raise self esteem...

What I think you want to say is that black people as a whoe need to PAY MORE ATTENTION AND REFLECT UPON THESE THINGS MORE THAN THE DISTRACTIONS that impede not only OUR DEVELOPMENT AND EVOLUTION but ALL THE PEOPLE OF THE WORLD...
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147. "RE: First off..."
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>After everything we survived, created, and
>DOMINATED (genetics especially) trust we
>need NO reason to raise
>self esteem...

I'm glad i was wrong, really am! I must also reprogram what i think about african culture. I didnt know shit about african american and councious african culture before i became an okayplayer. And since I come from a distant country, the media gives you a badm, false image! THEY never tell you the true africa.

>What I think you want to
>say is that black people
>as a whoe need to
>PAY MORE ATTENTION AND REFLECT
>UPON THESE THINGS MORE THAN
>THE DISTRACTIONS that impede not
>only OUR DEVELOPMENT AND EVOLUTION
>but ALL THE PEOPLE OF
>THE WORLD...

Man if i just knew words like you! Yes, paying more attention, and more attention on "your things" than on the distractions you are given.. Also, always make sure you include "ALL THE PEOPLE OF THE WORLD...", it is important.

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bmig

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65. "RE: After reading the whole thread"
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When was the White man is God theory used???
Do you really have to ask that?
I guess there really is a separate reality in Black and White America..

  

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66. "RE: After reading the whole thread"
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>When was the White man is
>God theory used???
>Do you really have to ask
>that?

I mixed it up, it all is a new way of thinking for me.. that is my excuse!! But, an okp said that White man is God is another way of saying that white man is ruling most parts of this world. Some facts would make it better, but it is at least partly true.

>I guess there really is a
>separate reality in Black and
>White America..

I am in europe - so me being interested in all this is strange as it is already. Just be glad i want to learn about it..! There is very often seperate realities between two cultures, the best is to be open to differences and going for a big mix of everything.

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49. "RE: explain the "black man is god" theory"
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Okay...players, here's the deal (just one of my many humble opinions, which add up to nothing more than a grain of salt, so please take it in as such)... GOD as we understand IT (notice the absence of "him/her")is whatever one believes it to be according to their religeon or lack thereof; yadda yadda. Since there is no actual proof to clarify anyone's theory (and remember, a theory is basically formed by some guy or whoever, that had some time on his hands to make a guess at a question that noone else could answer), the question remains unanswered. My opinion is this : whether GOD is Black, or White, or Hispanic with Korean cousins and an Arabian uncle : WHO REALLY CARES? Does it make a difference in the way the world got here or how we evolved? "Black man is GOD" is another statement/question formed to poison the human race with more segregation, more fascism, more opression, blah blah blah, and so-on. Not that I think that these problems should exist, because they shouldn't, but I'm a strong female and have no need to be passified. Feel me? Anyway, there's my little, worthless opinion. If you'd like to question my intelligence feel free to bash on me anytime .

BTW : I didn't take the time to actually go through and read ALL of the replies to the topic, although I should have. But is the topic an opinion or a question? In other words: are you asking why a small fraction of people think, "Hey, black man is GOD, and white men can't jump", or are you asking how the theory of GOD being a black man was "thunk up"? ... Dammit, I better go read some of these replies before I make myself look like an idiot...

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54. "RE: explain the "black man is god" theory"
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Hehehe no your opinion was all good.. about time someone posted a post like that. I thought about saying "why argue about if the god is black or white, when he (ehm..... it) is supposed to love us all?", but dropped it since it would offend too many.

Now you said it, i didnt have to! You get my support, but i still also understand the BMIG way of thinking - to give confidence (or any other positive growth-word)

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53. "god is black and black men are god are completly different issues"
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some of you make have gotten confussed

  

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55. "RE: god is black and black men are god are completly different issues"
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Ups.. can you tell me/us the difference in clear, short sentances? hehe if it's possible.

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"if God was white, then all white men wouldn't necessarily be gods too. But the theory states that all black men are Gods, thats different"

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100. "NO MAN IS GOD"
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that makes no damn sense.

There's guys on the KKK message boards saying the same stuff, only switching white with black. There's ways to justify that idea, too.

  

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60. "PEOPLE TO INBOX ABOUT THIS...."
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Cartier_Allah...
Solarus...

They might be able to answer ya'll queries a bit more than most of the "shots in the dark" tossed in the air by ya'll...

Cartier_Allah is (I think) a member of the 5% nation of Gods and Earths...

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84. "RE: PEOPLE TO INBOX ABOUT THIS...."
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>Cartier_Allah...
>Solarus...
>
>They might be able to answer
>ya'll queries a bit more
>than most of the "shots
>in the dark" tossed in
>the air by ya'll...
>
>Cartier_Allah is (I think) a member
>of the 5% nation of
>Gods and Earths...
>
>Solarus is like THE OKAYPLAYER OFFICIAL
>KNOWLEDGE SOURCE on KMT...

Why don't you foolios put all the information togeva and formulate questions and answers. But yes Solarus should be consulted to clear up any foggyness. In my opinion everybody who's given an idea is right, but all of your answers play a role in the the existance and meaning behind the 5% Nation.
No one has mentioned the break down. 85% Def Dumb and Blind
10%the evil Blood Suckers of the Earth & 5% Poor Righteous Teachers.

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98. "THE BLACK MAN IS NOT GOD"
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>This my be personal, or whatever,
>but I'm very intrigued, can
>someone fill me in. Also,
>where does this school of
>thought leave whites? Thanks


God..ALLAH

Is all knowing / all seeing ... the first the last.

The Black man is far from this. The BLACK MAN is a man. This leaves the WHITE MAN as just what the Black Man is ...a Man. A thing created NOT the creator.

see abduhu's 1st post


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into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword.

It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the mind.
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IllipticallyDefined

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"RE: THE BLACK MAN IS NOT GOD"


          

yo? are you reading the posts? this shit is mad redundant, read some of the posts above kid... the black man is god is not the same as saying that black kid i know across the street created the universe i live in... read above

  

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140. "MY POSITION"
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>yo? are you reading the posts?

Yep

>this shit is mad redundant,
>read some of the posts
>above kid...

So what. So I guess I cant add my two cents. So i cant state my view?

the black man
>is god is not the
>same as saying that black
>kid i know across the
>street created the universe i
>live in... read above

I have read above. By saying the "BMIG" you are giving the Black Man more than his due. You dont get my whole post. I'm also saying that the Black man is not superior to the White Man. I am Black and I am honored to be Black but the truth is that Black people are not superior to Whites. We have the ability to be superior, we have alot to be proud of and we should by no means feel as if we are some low brow niggas like some would want us to feel.

Saying that we are Gods is taking it to a extreme. I think we should be more humble. This type of thought spouts pride and arrogance. Pride and arrogance are qualities of the devil. So how are we better than the White man if we have the same qualities?

My Solution as a Muslim, is that we should be "Servants of Allah". This is when we become superior. When you serve Allah the creator, Allah sets in a higher rank than others. This is better than setting yourself in higher rank someone else.

I hope you get my point a little better now. It seems like your being defensive, if so I intend no harm by my words. I'm just trying to add my two cents in.




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"Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the citizenship
into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword.

It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the mind.
And w

  

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141. "RE: MY POSITION"
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I think THE SYSTEM has infiltrated these posts with so-called blacks to refute the Black Man is God assertion to further suppress thought from being reactionary, or worse, revolutionary!

nah, but seriously, in terms of evolution, the african was indeed first and as we migrated we developed different characteristics appropriate for our respective environment. I am not saying that the black man is god but i am definitely inclined to believe that evolution started with him, or someone who looked like him...it's factual and simply, logical.

Hey, anybody read that book..."Taboo"?

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142. "RE: MY POSITION"
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>I think THE SYSTEM has infiltrated
>these posts with so-called blacks
>to refute the Black Man
>is God assertion to further
>suppress thought from being reactionary,
>or worse, revolutionary!
>
>nah, but seriously, in terms of
>evolution, the african was indeed
>first and as we migrated
>we developed different characteristics appropriate
>for our respective environment. I
>am not saying that the
>black man is god but
>i am definitely inclined to
>believe that evolution started with
>him, or someone who looked
>like him...it's factual and simply,
>logical.
>

I agree. I think that this fact puts greater responsibility on us to strive to be the best we can. This fact shouldnt pff us up with pride and arrogance, these things will cause us to be defeated time and time again. Usually defeated by our own hands.

>Hey, anybody read that book..."Taboo"?


Not me


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"Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the citizenship
into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword.

It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the mind.
And w

  

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IllipticallyDefined

Wed Jun-20-01 04:06 AM

  
144. "RE: MY POSITION"
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again, the theory does not state superiority... again read the posts they explain the theory quite well i thought.

  

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101. "RE: explain the "black man is god" theory"
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Peace. My Name is God Freedom and I'm part of the Nation of Gods and Earths. Originally, we were just called the 5% Nation. Basically, a 5%er is someone who is civilized and they teach the truth. White people were originally taught, and could be 5%ers, some Gods say whites can be Gods, most say they can't. I don't get caught up in that but I will say they can never be the master of 7 which is Allah God. We teach that whites are devils, but that has very little to do with the religious connotation. We don't hate whites, we teach them, we teach everyone. We aren't Islamic and don't follow al qur'an, al islaam and are not Muslims. We are the Gods. The whole Black/White thing can be looked at like higher self / lower self. Whites are the lower self, manifested in the physical form. By Polarity Blackman is God\Devil, Whiteman is Devil\God.. and by degree Blackman is God, Whiteman is Devil.

Look at it like proton/neutron. The proton is 1836 times bigger than the neutron in mass, but they both exert the same force. One positive, one negative. Original people (Black, Brown, Yellow etc) out number the Caucasian people, but these last 6000 years have shown everyone the kind of power the whites have. Whites, generally exploit anyone they can, including their own. has a lot to do with your origins. So that's 'where it leaves' you whites. We are original and you, grafted.

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102. "Over simplistic..."
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The powerful exploit the powerless. This has nothing to do with race.
I believe that nobody truly righteous (Gods?) would ever claim themselves to be on a plain that is above others (Blacks over Whites, 5%ers over the other 95%).
Anyone who claims to be a 5% must have a warped view, and thus, not knowledge-of-self, for one cannot have true knowledge-of-self if they are cannot look at themselves like everyone else. Mumbo jumbo.

  

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104. "RE: Over simplistic..."
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Peace
I don't know what you mean by powerful, but if you mean people with money and means of production, then I am saying no, the powerful don't always exploit others. Capitalism is oppressive in nature, but it all depends on what you mean by powerful. Other than that, I don't understand what you are saying in your post.

Peace


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106. "RE: Over simplistic..."
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I understood his post, i believe. Being the opressor(sp) does not have to be about race.

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105. "RE: Over simplistic..."
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>The powerful exploit the powerless.
>This has nothing to do
>with race.
>I believe that nobody truly righteous
>(Gods?) would ever claim themselves
>to be on a plain
>that is above others (Blacks
>over Whites, 5%ers over the
>other 95%).
>Anyone who claims to be a
>5% must have a warped
>view, and thus, not knowledge-of-self,
>for one cannot have true
>knowledge-of-self if they are cannot
>look at themselves like everyone
>else. Mumbo jumbo.

See this is the problem...black folks have no love for themselves so they doubt eachother. OVer simplistic?!?
IT'S SIMPLE MATHEMATICS BRUTHA. THERE BELIEFS ARE BASED UPON MATHEMATICS. I UNDERSTAND THOUGH WE'VE ALL BEEN CONDITIONED TO DOUBT SO WE DOUBT THE HEARTS INTELLECT OF OUR OWN PEOPLE AND MOST IMPORTANTLEY OURSELVES.



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113. "RE: Over simplistic..."
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>IT'S SIMPLE MATHEMATICS BRUTHA. THERE
>BELIEFS ARE BASED UPON MATHEMATICS.


Can anyone write down this equasion for me? So far it still makes no real sense and seems based more on "self-esteem building" than on fact.

I don't know about anyone else, but I'm conditioned to not take everything at face value without some info to back it up. That's just how I was raised. If we all took things in and never doubted anything, then we wouldn't be much now. Truth is found with doubt.

I also fail to see how I'm a devil. Can someone break that one down for me, too?

8:35

  

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116. "RE: Over simplistic..."
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Peace 8:35. We teach that your reason for existence is to show us who we are, as Gods. I don't know you, I wouldn't call you a devil, I'm just telling you what our lessons teach. We all interpret them how we choose. Allah, the founder of the 5%ers taught white people. He said the best understanding is your own.
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145. "math?"
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a set of daily affirmations & alphabets set to numerals does not mathematics make...

unless y'all are studying some physics and some calculus I'm unaware of...

why am I still here??

ugh...


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115. "RE: explain the "black man is god" theory"
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>The
>whole Black/White thing can be
>looked at like higher self
>/ lower self. Whites
>are the lower self, manifested
>in the physical form.
>By Polarity Blackman is God\Devil,
>Whiteman is Devil\God.. and by
>degree Blackman is God, Whiteman
>is Devil.

What kind of "science" is that one based on? I'm still waiting to hear about how I'm a devil. I didn't think I was that bad a guy.

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118. "RE: explain the "black man is god" theory"
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Peace. Law of opposites. I understand if you don't acknowledge them as true.

God doesn't mean good and devil doesn't mean evil.

We all have the power to build or destroy.
Peace

Freedom

>>The
>>whole Black/White thing can be
>>looked at like higher self
>>/ lower self. Whites
>>are the lower self, manifested
>>in the physical form.
>>By Polarity Blackman is God\Devil,
>>Whiteman is Devil\God.. and by
>>degree Blackman is God, Whiteman
>>is Devil.
>
> What kind of "science" is
>that one based on? I'm
>still waiting to hear about
>how I'm a devil. I
>didn't think I was that
>bad a guy.
>
>8:35



  

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112. "Who is the 5%?"
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the term 5% refers to a small percentage of the world who know and teach who the true living god is. this small group of people teach that god is the son of man, the supreme being, blackman from asia. the knowledge of the asiatic blackman being god is kept hidden from the masses in order to control them. many people know who the true and living god is, from the pope in rome to the freemasons in your local masonic temple. your local church preacher may bare witness to the true and living god, however, everyone who knows who god is, does not teach the truth about god. the 10% teach of god as being a mystery, unknown and unseen god.


god is usually described in theology as being a "he". the holy qur'an, bible, bhagavad-gita, upanishads and coming forth by day (egyptian book of the dead) all refer to god in this masculine gender, first person singular description. the bible also quotes god referring to himself/themselves by using the term "us" and the qur'an uses the term "we". this he, us and we are all speaking about the asiatic blackman. the honorable elijah muhammad taught that god is indeed a man. he, like the jesus of the bible, taught that we are all gods (john 10:34). the masses of the world believe god is some unseen, supernatural, being existing everywhere. allah is not unseen, he is seen and heard everywhere. in theology, god sees, hears, speaks, walks and feels. in genesis, adam heard god walking through the garden (gen 3:8). three men appeared to abraham in the plains of mamre, one was the lord and abraham fed him (gen 18:1-33). if god was outside of man, jesus would not have taught us that the kingdom of heaven (luke 17:21) is within man. "neither shall they say, lo here! or, lo there! for behold, the kingdom of god is within you.


it is true that the asiatic blackman is god, however, as i mentioned above, the 10% make god into a mystery. the 5% are the poor righteous teachers who do not believe in the teachings of the 10%. they are all-wise and know who the true and living god is, and they teach that the true and living god is the supreme being, asiatic blackman. the nation of gods and earths are only part of the 5%. other people, like the muslims of the nation of islam and (some of) the shriner masons (moslem-sons) are also part of the 5%. In general the 5% are teachers of truth. there is a 5% within everything. peace

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114. "if you really want to know"
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peace. i am god freedom akbar ali and i am part of the nation of gods and earths, which was started by allah "the father" in 1964. we are a nation of people who, like any other civilized group of people, strive for freedom, justice, equality and peace. our culture or way of life is supreme mathematics. supreme mathematics are a tool allah gave us to help us understand ourselves and life in general. we are gods (men) and earths (women). each individual man is his own god, his own savior and creates and lives out his own destiny. no one has a higher rank than anyone else in our nation. we deal in equality, not hierarchy. the main goals of the nation of gods and earths is to educate those who are not "in the know," be self sufficient (own and run our own schools, businesses, etc.) and continuously strive for perfection as a people. we teach knowledge and wisdom to those who want to learn, however we do not try to make everyone be part of our nation. we just teach the truth. we are not a gang, we are not preachers and we are not muslims.

the masses of the world today are mental slaves who can easily be described as "puppets." these puppets are controlled and manipulated by what we, the nation of gods and earths call the 10%. the 10% are able to program and manipulate the masses by controlling four major institutions, which are: educational, economical, political and religious.

proper education in schools would help destroy the 10%'s mental enslavement of the masses by crushing the myth that european culture is and has always been highly civilized. subconsciously, in america, most children in the public school systems are taught that throughout history and even today, non-white cultures have only existed as and continue to exist as primitive, savage and inferior to european culture. the public schools teach our children to honor george washington, christopher columbus, thomas jefferson, abraham lincoln etc. however, they are not giving a true account of the stories that have taken place, history is simply his-story. if you ask a black child in america who marcus garvy or elijah muhammad was, they will most likely tell you that they do not know. the schools do not teach about benjamin bannaker, che guevara, ceaser chavez or malcolm x. they teach half-truths and mythology. easter, christmas, valentines day, and thanksgiving seems to be the curriculum of the public schools. many schools even have halloween parades. public schools teach our children that abraham lincoln freed "the slaves." what they do not teach is that abraham lincoln thought black people weren't even people, but that they were slaves. he saw all blacks as inferior to whites. when he "freed the slaves" he was saying that black people are not people, but slaves, and now they will be "free slaves." on august 14, 1852, abraham lincoln said "not a single man of your race is made equal to a single man of ours," but this is never taught in the schools to the children. they do not teach that "thanksgiving" was actually a slaughter of the natives or how columbus and other european explorers and settlers exploited and killed millions of the natives in the americas. not to mention all the black people who drowned in the atlantic ocean.

the economical institutions make slaves out of the masses of the people by manipulating what they buy, which in turn, contributes to how they live. although the 10% run the major businesses and institutions that enslave the masses, it is the masses who keep the 10% in power by working for them. a 1996 study revealed that 68% of the total net worth of all u.s. families is owned by just 10% of those families. wealth, power and prestige are maintained by the puppet masters by way of mass manipulation. the economical institutions' main tool for manipulation and programming of the masses is the television. what are television shows called? programs! the masses are influenced at an early age by cartoons, music, television programs and movies. corporations like fox, nbc, hbo, etc. indoctrinate the masses mentally while corporations like mcdonalds, taco bell, coca-cola and pepsi feed them the wrong physical foods which keep them enslaved. there is a large percentage of children watching videos after school. to my knowledge, they mainly watch mtv and bet, this is what i call their after school-school. these channels influence what health care products people buy, how they dress, and how they carry themselves. nowadays it is nothing surprising to hear a young black woman call herself and/or her friends "bitch(es)" do you know who/what is molding your child?

politics have a large influence on society, especially here in the united states. the ruling class, which is the 10%, get elected by the masses of people. the politicians smile for cameras, kiss babies, and claim to be in their position for the interest of the masses. laws are formed by these politicians to keep the other three institutions running well. once in a while, a power elite political person will get caught breaking the law and will actually be prosecuted. this trick is done to make the masses believe that the criminal justice system maintains "fairness," giving the masses a reason not to overthrow their oppressive government. the government controls things like food and drug administration, regulating what can and cannot be done in the businesses of food and drugs. drugs go with the foods because you will need something in your old age to cure you from all the poison contained in the meat, preservatives and sugars eaten throughout your lifetime. the political institution has many important roles to keep the 10% functioning.

religion is defined as "belief in a divine or superhuman power or powers to be obeyed and worshipped as the creator(s) and ruler(s) of the universe." the word religion comes from "religare" which means to restrain or tie back. what are people being restrained from? what are they being tied back from? the full knowledge of god. in order for religion to exist, you need followers, a "god" (or gods) and someone to link the followers to that god. it's a hierarchy where the popes, bishops, reverends, swamis, rabbis, imams and other preachers lead and teach the followers about this god (or gods). the truth is, god has always been one with man. most religious preachers know this, however, they desire to make slaves out of their followers. so they teach lies and teach half-truths. the most profound teaching of the nation of gods and earths is that the blackman is god. the masses of the people hear this and are traumatized. they say, "god is not a man, god is an invisible spirit." christianity, which has over 1,000,000,000 adherents, teaches that god came in the form of a man, but they say god is not a man. the last messenger of allah, the most honorable elijah muhammad, said:

the christians do not believe in god as being a human being, yet they believe in him as being the father of all human beings. they also refer to god as he, him, man, king and the ruler. they teach that god sees, hears, talks, walks, stands, sits, rides, and flies; that he grieves or sorrows; and that he is interested in the affairs of human beings. they also teach that once upon a time he made the first man like himself in the image and likeness of himself, but yet they believe that he, himself, is not a man or human. they preach and prophesy of his coming and that he will be seen on the judgment day but is not man. they cannot tell us what he looks like, yet man is made like him and in the image of god, and yet they still say that he is a mystery (unknown).

the religious leaders make god a mystery to the masses in order to keep control over them. if the followers knew everything that the preachers know, there would be no reason to go to church. therefore, the preachers do not share all of their knowledge with the followers. the preachers know that they need followers in order to get paid. the religious institution links up with the other institutions daily. in school, children are taught to quote "...one nation, under god...." who's god? where is he? when testifying in court, you are told to put your hand on the bible and you are sworn under an oath in the name of "god." the truth is, and has always been, that the only god is man. a definition of god is "supreme being." supreme means most high, and being means to be or to exist. the most high being that exists is man. you can not prove that there is any being more supreme than man. people ask, "what about when man was not? where was god then?" there never has been a time where man was not. most people hear the word man and automatically think head, two arms, torso and two legs. that is physical man, yes, however man is more than a physical body. man means mind or intelligence, and that is what man is. that is what god is. the mind has always been here and always will be. religious people say "in the beginning god created....." who's beginning? all things that have a beginning have an ending. there is no beginning for the original man. who is the original man? when asked this, the honorable elijah muhammad answered "the original man is the asiatic blackman, the maker, the owner, the cream of the planet earth, god of the universe." this is not something he just made up. the knowledge of god has always been known to those "in the know," but it has been concealed from the masses for a very long time. societies like the freemasons have kept the knowledge of god bottled up in their high degrees. shriners, who are +32nd degree freemasons, bare witness to the blackman being god. they know that there is no mystery god, outside of man. the shriners even call god by his rightful name, which is allah. in public, they deny the knowledge that they have acquired, and some even go to church on sundays to preach about a mystery god with a son named jesus. they know this isn't true, but they will teach it in order to keep their power.

people also ask the question, "if man is god, who made the physical man?" man has always been here. self-created. from sub-atomic particles to atoms to molecules to organelles to cells to tissues to organs to organ systems to organisms, man has always existed. the evolution of man has been carried out by his own will, just like your evolution is carried out by your will. you create your own destiny by choosing what you will and will not do, what you will and will not eat, how long you will rest, what you study, etc. the original man is the asiatic blackman, meaning, the blackman from asia. we are taught not to separate africa from asia and not to limit the blackman as an african, for africa is not the blackman's only home. the planet earth is the blackman's home and the blackman has fathered civilizations all over the world. we call the earth asia, us being asiatic makes us people of or relating to the earth. all other asiatic (non-white) people are original people too. we do not fall victim to the european's teaching that we are all different, that is something they want us to believe, so that they can divide and conquer us. the nation of gods and earths is composed of only asiatic peoples, however we are not anti-white. we aren't pro-black. according to shabazz adew allah who walked with allah the father (founder of our nation), allah was not hateful, nor was he afflicted with the cancer of prejudice, bigotry or apathy. he taught that we should not fear competing against, socializing without or interacting with the caucasian people. he also taught that we should not mix our seed with them, for that would be grafting out the originality of our seed. allah also taught caucasian people. the f.b.i. report on allah quotes azreal, a caucasian, as saying "he gave me the knowledge of myself.....allah loved everybody." allah was also a close friend of the caucasian barry gottehers, an assistant to mayor lindsay and head of the mayor's urban task force. barry gottehers would provide allah with busses in order for the gods and earths to have transportation to rallies where allah and others would teach the truth to the youth. allah was not born with the knowledge of himself. he was born february 22, 1928, in danville, va. it wasn't until the mid 20th century, when allah joined the nation of islam headed by the honorable elijah muhammad, that allah got the knowledge of himself. however, allah understood that he was god, and he started teaching that in the temple. malcolm x and captain joseph would not allow him to teach this teaching openly in the temple so he left and taught the truth openly on the streets. in 1964 allah (the father) came to us and with the help of his friends justice, shahid, ebeka and his first nine students (9 born) he began what is now known as the nation of gods and earths. the 10% claim that it is impossible for god to come as the original blackman, however, the bible and qur'an cite various passages revealing who the true and living god is. these passages are in both books but they have been obscured by the 10%, in order to keep the 85% blind to reality. peace to the gods and earths.



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138. "RE: Who is the 5%?"
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yes i know jesus bared witness to this John 10:34, but please explain his references to "the father"

  

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In about 5 different posts-- all dealing with race today that i've read, a comment was almost always made to the effect of--blacks need to tell themselves things to ameliorate their social condition, which in all 5 topics some how nullified the arguements. I am personally disgusted by how trivial a lot of okps regard black history/views/values yet still commit to black american music...comments?

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>In about 5 different posts-- all
>dealing with race today that
>i've read, a comment was
>almost always made to the
>effect of--blacks need to tell
>themselves things to ameliorate their
>social condition, which in all
>5 topics some how nullified
>the arguements. I am personally
>disgusted by how trivial a
>lot of okps regard black
>history/views/values yet still commit to
>black american music...comments?

It could probably said for a lot of whites and non-blacks in America that they like the music, but don't like the people who make the music. I find it funny that these people say things like that because they also make up stereotypes so that they can somehow feel superior to us, but when they find out stereotypes we have about them, all of a sudden it's blacks that have a self-esteem problem and are being the racists. these people don't understand black people's point of view and probably don't want to, they'd be much more happier with you being a benign nigger and not have any opinions on race and such. There is a post with an article from Tim Wise on here that may relate to this.


  

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could you forward it to me, where is it?

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I don't know how to put the link here, but it's the post that says "From Tim Wise". It's still on the front page here on the Activist Board.

  

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HTP

The problem with the BMIG theory (from 5% perspective) is that it is limited because it uses a Western/ non-Afrakan conception of what "god" is. Using the Bible, Quran, Torah as references for "god" is and the general conception of "god" in the West is creates a narrowed conception of "god." In 5% teachings it tries to expand this conception from the norm but overall fails because it does not fully expose the false Western realities in which it was born. I knew a 5 percenter (my former "enlightener") who tried to use the conception of "god" as delineated in the Medu Neter by Ra un Nefer Amen as proof that the "black man is god" which is totally inaccurate. Its like comparing apples to NOTHING (no-things) and saying that NO-THINGS proves the apples is an apple. That makes no sense.

See http://www.okayplayer.com/cgi-bin/dcforum/dcboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=1830&forum=DCForumID1&archive=yes
for more discussion on 5%.

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are you for real?

that's just what I was talking about earlier, about how subjective their whole premise is...

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The definition of God to the 5% Nation of Gods and Earths is diiferent from the Western concept of God. It simply refers to the fact that black people were the first in existence, and all people stem from us. We hold a dominant gene which can not be duplicated by the white folks.

The first degree of the Supreme Mathematics is Knowledge which is synonymous with God since God's knowledge is what brought forth everything in existence. Since the black man was first in existence, he is the foundation of everyman's existence.

To understand this concept, one must take himself out of the realm of judeo/christian dogma. But understand also that when one says that the blackman is god, it's really not different from calling oneself Christian (Christ-like) because to live according to the 120 lessons is to be God like. God is the blackman's potential. That is to say that yes black people can be devils and that white people can even be god like. The lessons equate God with civilization, one who seeks to bring forth light from darkness, thus recreating knowledge (God). Somewhat confusing, I'd imagine. But with anything, to truly understand a way of life, you have to live it, and not look for a shortcut.

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146. "RE: explain the "black man is god" theory"
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Open your heart!!

"THe living temple is man, as he embodies cosmic principles and functions. Through these teachings you are led to the knowledge that we call salvation or redemption-triumph over death....Our rationalistic mentality is oriented toward the acquisition of technological data and its utilitarian application. Under the pretext of facilitating life, the unbridled search for new inventions hones man's egotism and leads him to destruction. Oppose the extreme, the pharaonic mentality, based on a gnosis (knowledge of causes), shows its certitude by the aim and directives it assigns to earthly existence....SYMBOLISM. True progress in human thought can be made only if we call upon the symbolizing faculty of intelligence, this faculty was developed and refined in Kemit and reflected in heiroglyphs and other symbology. Symbology frees us from our present intellectual impasse, while symbolism must be recognized as the intuitive means of overcoming the limitations of reason....See the analytic, mechanistic mentality of modern science and the synthetic,vitalist mentality of ancient kemitan Sacred Science (Science of Life) are two opposing views. Only a symbolic mentality, like that cultivated in Kemit, can think without objectifying and therefore can synthetically conceive the paradoxes inherent in the intimate life of matter, or nature in its ongoing genesis. Modern Science has evolved to a new opening of consciousness confronted witn paradoxes that reason alone cannot contend with. It will have to rise to a symbolic mode in order to intergrate the complements in vital phenomena."

So in terms of ALLAH ARM LEG LEG ARM HEAD=human being geometrically encompassed is symbolic of the perfect man. Having knowledge of man's physical and spiritual anatomy. It's what we work towards as humans...divinization. Right? Not saying you will become GOD but you will return to him and rejoin him, but not without progressing through proper stages. THIS GOES FOR BLACKS AND WHITES.

"Intelligence of the Heart, the innate, functional consciousness or way of thinking that is in harmony with Nature ans so enables one to understand life and living things. Like the pratice of imagination is a way of evolutionary development...The intelligence is independet of the senses and belongs to the vast totality called life. As the term was originally used by Kemits Inner Temple, it represented that which allows man to move toward the divine...all of this is a not a matter of learned knowledge but intuitive capacity...The process of becoming relates to consciousness and is revealed in all of nature; the relationship of apparent life and the life behind appearances; the kinship between man and the mineral, plant and animal kingdoms; the stages of awareness leading to cosmic consciousness; and the formation of substance into matter."

"Listen my child: a day will come when mankind will know how to worhsip God in the spirit; then they will no longer need temples, nor myths to symbolise the working of the divine thoughts; no longer will the y need statues to represent the various states of his power; nor will they need mysterious scriptures to tell the secret meaning of the divine science tothose who have eyes to see and ears to listen....

Many of you are deceived by the triviality of ancient inscriptions and math when studied from the Shell of the fruit. You only refer to the effects, and in no way to their deeper causes. There is no shame in mistakes made because one lacks some essential elements. Your personal observations enrich the material to be studied by others; all conscientious research disposes the intellect to the clear formulation of problems, which then deserve to receive a solution.

"Note that this solution will be unintelligible to those who are accustomed to rely on appearances only, and who have not cultivated their wisdom of the heart. This is another way: it can be offered but never imposed, for its demands a suitable mentality, but the understanding depends upon it."

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151. "RE: explain the "black man is god" theory"
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Peace

where is "Listen my child: a day will come when mankind will know how to worhsip God in the spirit; then they will no longer need temples, nor myths to symbolise the working of the divine thoughts; no longer will the y need statues to represent the various states of his power; nor will they need mysterious scriptures to tell the secret meaning of the divine science tothose who have eyes to see and ears to listen....

from?



Thanks

Peace

>Open your heart!!
>
>"THe living temple is man, as
>he embodies cosmic principles and
>functions. Through these teachings
>you are led to the
>knowledge that we call salvation
>or redemption-triumph over death....Our rationalistic
>mentality is oriented toward the
>acquisition of technological data and
>its utilitarian application. Under
>the pretext of facilitating life,
>the unbridled search for new
>inventions hones man's egotism and
>leads him to destruction.
>Oppose the extreme, the pharaonic
>mentality, based on a gnosis
>(knowledge of causes), shows its
>certitude by the aim and
>directives it assigns to earthly
>existence....SYMBOLISM. True progress in
>human thought can be made
>only if we call upon
>the symbolizing faculty of intelligence,
>this faculty was developed and
>refined in Kemit and reflected
>in heiroglyphs and other symbology.
> Symbology frees us from
>our present intellectual impasse, while
>symbolism must be recognized as
>the intuitive means of overcoming
>the limitations of reason....See the
>analytic, mechanistic mentality of modern
>science and the synthetic,vitalist mentality
>of ancient kemitan Sacred Science
>(Science of Life) are two
>opposing views. Only a
>symbolic mentality, like that cultivated
>in Kemit, can think without
>objectifying and therefore can synthetically
>conceive the paradoxes inherent in
>the intimate life of matter,
>or nature in its ongoing
>genesis. Modern Science has
>evolved to a new opening
>of consciousness confronted witn paradoxes
>that reason alone cannot contend
>with. It will have
>to rise to a symbolic
>mode in order to intergrate
>the complements in vital phenomena."
>
>
>So in terms of ALLAH ARM
>LEG LEG ARM HEAD=human being
>geometrically encompassed is symbolic of
>the perfect man. Having
>knowledge of man's physical and
>spiritual anatomy. It's what
>we work towards as humans...divinization.
> Right? Not saying
>you will become GOD but
>you will return to him
>and rejoin him, but not
>without progressing through proper stages.
> THIS GOES FOR BLACKS
>AND WHITES.
>
>"Intelligence of the Heart, the innate,
>functional consciousness or way of
>thinking that is in harmony
>with Nature ans so enables
>one to understand life and
>living things. Like the
>pratice of imagination is a
>way of evolutionary development...The intelligence
>is independet of the senses
>and belongs to the vast
>totality called life. As
>the term was originally used
>by Kemits Inner Temple, it
>represented that which allows man
>to move toward the divine...all
>of this is a not
>a matter of learned
>knowledge but intuitive capacity...The process
>of becoming relates to consciousness
>and is revealed in all
>of nature; the relationship of
>apparent life and the life
>behind appearances; the kinship between
>man and the mineral, plant
>and animal kingdoms; the stages
>of awareness leading to cosmic
>consciousness; and the formation of
>substance into matter."
>
>"Listen my child: a day will
>come when mankind will know
>how to worhsip God in
>the spirit; then they will
>no longer need temples, nor
>myths to symbolise the working
>of the divine thoughts; no
>longer will the y need
>statues to represent the various
>states of his power; nor
>will they need mysterious scriptures
>to tell the secret meaning
>of the divine science tothose
>who have eyes to see
>and ears to listen....
>
>Many of you are deceived by
>the triviality of ancient inscriptions
>and math when studied from
>the Shell of the fruit.
> You only refer to
>the effects, and in no
>way to their deeper causes.
> There is no
>shame in mistakes made because
>one lacks some essential elements.
> Your personal observations enrich
>the material to be studied
>by others; all conscientious research
>disposes the intellect to the
>clear formulation of problems, which
>then deserve to receive a
>solution.
>
>"Note that this solution will be
>unintelligible to those who are
>accustomed to rely on appearances
>only, and who have not
>cultivated their wisdom of the
>heart. This is another
>way: it can be offered
>but never imposed, for its
>demands a suitable mentality, but
>the understanding depends upon it."
>



  

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152. "RE: explain the "black man is god" theory"
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>Peace
>
>where is "Listen my child: a
>day will come when mankind
>will know how to worhsip
>God in the spirit; then
>they will no longer need
>temples, nor myths to symbolise
>the working of the divine
>thoughts; no longer will the
>y need statues to represent
>the various states of his
>power; nor will they need
>mysterious scriptures to tell the
>secret meaning of the divine
>science tothose who have eyes
>to see and ears to
>listen....
>
>from?
>
>
>
>Thanks
>
>Peace
>
YOU CAN FIND THAT IN A BOOK I'VE READ ABOUT 3 TIMES AND I'M ON MY FOURTH. IT'S CALLED "HER-BAK" The LIving Face of Ancient Egypt. Written by Isha Schwaller De Lubicz. Published by Inner Traditions International. It's not a historical/ or philosophical book, but a story. VIVIFYING BREATH!!!

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what are their thoughts on the afterlife? Same as muslims, or different. If the black man is god, then what about whites and their afterlife. the way I'm understanding it, NGE is more of a life style, and the after life is delth with under Islam. Am I right?

  

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peace

We don't talk about any life after the physical death.

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153. "RE: NGE and the afterlife"
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>what are their thoughts on the
>afterlife? Same as muslims, or
>different. If the black man
>is god, then what about
>whites and their afterlife. the
>way I'm understanding it, NGE
>is more of a life
>style, and the after life
>is delth with under Islam.
>Am I right?


Read the 2nd Peace 3 quote above this post.
After life is not heaven or hell. The after life is reunification. It is the 3rd shining of Peace. Triplicity is unity.


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