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"OkayFast Falll 2001"


  

          

Hujambo

This post should serve as a journal of sorts for all okps who have fasted and are fasting now. It's always good to record thoughts, feelings, ideas, etc. on a fast because you never know what you might come up with when your body is not spending energy on digesting food. So whatca say?!?!

PEace
Solarus

***Words of Wisdom***

"Every time you rise from your sleeping state, you have been reincarnated. Every time you recover from a bad experience, you have been reincarnated. Every time you have been given a new lease on life, you have been reincarnated. Every time you breath in and out, take in the fresh breath of life and feel the divine intelligence flowing in and around you, you have been reincarnated."- Mfundishi Bakari

On "love":

"I am in love everyday, whether I am with someone or not. Why? All love is based on a search for spirit. For me love is timeless, transcendent, peaceful, freeing, soul-based, unifying, and enhanced evolution. This is the basis of my activism."- Nettrice, the embodiment of Oshun

"Since we all make up the rules as we go along, love can mean many different things to many different people. But, for me love is a total commitment to understanding that is not limited to just people but is open to the totality of life. As long as we approach love from a fear based mentality and perceive it through veils of guardedness and anxiety, it will always be restricted by our fears."- Mfundishi Bakari

____________________________
"the real pyramids were built with such precision that you can't slide a piece of paper between two 4,000 lb stones, and have shafts perfectly aligned so that you can see a tiny aperture through dozens of these mammoth blocks

  

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Subject Author Message Date ID
First day for me
Sep 03rd 2001
1
Making it routine
Sep 03rd 2001
2
interesting comments...
Sep 07th 2001
99
first fast: finished
JESSEWA
Sep 03rd 2001
3
Fast Day 1
Sep 03rd 2001
4
DAY ONE!
utamaroho
Sep 03rd 2001
5
wheatgrass juice
Sep 04th 2001
6
smile...
utamaroho
Sep 04th 2001
7
RE: wheatgrass juice hahahahaha!
Sep 05th 2001
28
RE: OkayFast Falll 2001
Sep 04th 2001
8
first off
utamaroho
Sep 04th 2001
9
FAST changes!
Sep 04th 2001
10
hmmm...that's a good one.
utamaroho
Sep 04th 2001
11
      Yeah it was a good one
Sep 04th 2001
13
           damn!
utamaroho
Sep 04th 2001
14
           number 2
Sep 04th 2001
16
                hmmm...
utamaroho
Sep 04th 2001
17
                     Whole Day
Sep 04th 2001
19
                     i was constipated when i did it last time...
utamaroho
Sep 04th 2001
23
                     RE: hmmm...
Sep 04th 2001
20
                          Yes
Sep 04th 2001
24
                          depends on what you drink
utamaroho
Sep 04th 2001
25
           The Fiery Ass Whoopin'
Sep 04th 2001
18
                it's the wheatgrass mostly, though the garlic will burn ya!
utamaroho
Sep 04th 2001
21
                Double team
Sep 04th 2001
22
DAY TWO
utamaroho
Sep 04th 2001
12
last night was rough
utamaroho
Sep 05th 2001
27
      low blood sugar...
Sep 05th 2001
29
           i was exhausted and sleepy all day...
utamaroho
Sep 05th 2001
30
2nd Day
Sep 04th 2001
15
Day 2
Sep 04th 2001
26
I'm having issues...
Sep 05th 2001
31
Same here
Sep 05th 2001
44
      actually there is...
utamaroho
Sep 05th 2001
45
           OH!
Sep 05th 2001
47
           i'll try to get it for you
utamaroho
Sep 05th 2001
48
                RE: i'll try to get it for you
Sep 05th 2001
49
           now THAT I'd like to see...
Sep 06th 2001
52
                RE: now THAT I'd like to see...
Sep 06th 2001
66
                     not at all
Sep 06th 2001
73
                          RE: not at all
Sep 06th 2001
76
                               lol
Sep 07th 2001
93
                                    RE: lol
Sep 12th 2001
131
3rd Day
Sep 05th 2001
32
see post 27
utamaroho
Sep 05th 2001
33
u want juice?
Sep 05th 2001
34
how far you willing to drive?
utamaroho
Sep 05th 2001
35
not that maternal
Sep 05th 2001
37
INTERESTED!!!!!!!
Sep 05th 2001
39
RE: 3rd Day
Sep 05th 2001
36
Broke as a Joke
Sep 05th 2001
38
      Check your inbox... n/m
Sep 05th 2001
40
           RE: Check your inbox... n/m
Sep 05th 2001
41
           RE: Check your inbox... n/m
Sep 05th 2001
42
                check YOUR inbox
Sep 05th 2001
43
Ushukuru
Sep 06th 2001
64
DAY 3
utamaroho
Sep 05th 2001
46
Alright
Sep 05th 2001
50
RE: DAY 3
Sep 05th 2001
51
well for me...
utamaroho
Sep 06th 2001
54
question about ginger
Sep 06th 2001
53
try apple lemon ginger juice...
utamaroho
Sep 06th 2001
55
      that's just what I was gonna make!
Sep 06th 2001
56
      limit yr lemons
Sep 06th 2001
60
           it was deeeelicious
Sep 07th 2001
90
                green apples
Sep 07th 2001
91
      peel it and add pear
Sep 06th 2001
59
           yeah i know
Sep 06th 2001
62
                next yr
Sep 06th 2001
63
QUESTION
Sep 06th 2001
57
      flax provides essential oils...
utamaroho
Sep 06th 2001
61
day 3 (yesterday)
Sep 06th 2001
58
good job!
utamaroho
Sep 06th 2001
65
JUICERS
Sep 06th 2001
67
I love my juicer
Dyskotek
Sep 06th 2001
68
i saw "pulp"
Sep 06th 2001
70
      carrot supreme salad
utamaroho
Sep 06th 2001
72
      I hate carrots...
Sep 07th 2001
95
           ?
Sep 07th 2001
103
           or for a twist, add ginger
Sep 07th 2001
104
           perhaps you misunderstood me...
Sep 10th 2001
112
                RE: perhaps you misunderstood me...
Sep 11th 2001
127
                     yup yup
Sep 12th 2001
129
           tried carrot juice & didn't die
Sep 17th 2001
151
                Next time you waste carrot juice
Sep 17th 2001
152
                allright, that's it...
utamaroho
Sep 17th 2001
153
                can't be puttin names out there
Sep 17th 2001
160
                can't u
Sep 17th 2001
155
                *hanging head*
Sep 17th 2001
158
                better than gerber carrot
Sep 17th 2001
154
                     oh don't remind me...
Sep 17th 2001
159
      pulp nonfiction
Sep 06th 2001
78
      did it all involve
Sep 06th 2001
80
      when i juice
Sep 07th 2001
94
           she's talking about the pulp in the receptacle on the back...
utamaroho
Sep 07th 2001
98
                ohhhh ok
Sep 07th 2001
100
                     if you don't have a compost heap...
utamaroho
Sep 07th 2001
101
                          lol
Sep 07th 2001
102
omega 8001
Sep 06th 2001
69
      wow
Sep 06th 2001
71
           RE: wow
Sep 06th 2001
75
young coconut juice
Sep 06th 2001
74
seriously...
utamaroho
Sep 06th 2001
77
my first reaction was
Sep 06th 2001
79
      can?!?!?!?!
utamaroho
Sep 06th 2001
81
           oh lord please
Sep 06th 2001
82
                farmer's market...
utamaroho
Sep 06th 2001
83
                     i've never
Sep 06th 2001
84
                          international farmer's market...
utamaroho
Sep 06th 2001
85
                               maybe i didn't recognize it....
Sep 06th 2001
86
                                    thank you
utamaroho
Sep 06th 2001
87
                                         stop that ((swatting))
Sep 06th 2001
88
coconut is not my friend
Sep 07th 2001
96
      where the hell is my angry face smiley??? dammit...
Sep 07th 2001
97
DAY 4
utamaroho
Sep 06th 2001
89
4th day
Sep 07th 2001
92
DAY 5
utamaroho
Sep 07th 2001
105
5th Day
Sep 07th 2001
106
well
Sep 07th 2001
107
      that pipe cleaner
Sep 08th 2001
108
6th Day
Sep 08th 2001
109
good luck to all of you
Sep 08th 2001
110
DAY 6
utamaroho
Sep 09th 2001
111
fasting over!
Sep 10th 2001
113
yaaayyyyyy!!!!!!
utamaroho
Sep 10th 2001
114
RE: fasting over!
Sep 10th 2001
115
      master cleanser is cool...
utamaroho
Sep 10th 2001
116
      RE: master cleanser is cool...
Sep 10th 2001
117
      i'll be trying the salt water think tomorrow mornig after my enema...
utamaroho
Sep 10th 2001
118
      P.S.
Sep 10th 2001
119
      The solarICE!
Sep 10th 2001
120
DAY 7
utamaroho
Sep 10th 2001
121
7th Day
Sep 10th 2001
122
CVS or Eckerd's
utamaroho
Sep 10th 2001
123
ENEMAS
utamaroho
Sep 10th 2001
124
DAY 8
utamaroho
Sep 10th 2001
125
DAY 9
utamaroho
Sep 11th 2001
126
Coc'nat
Sep 12th 2001
132
coconut water, the perfect food...
utamaroho
Sep 12th 2001
128
day -3
Sep 12th 2001
130
DAYS 9 & 10
utamaroho
Sep 14th 2001
133
damn good movie
Sep 14th 2001
135
DAY 12
utamaroho
Sep 14th 2001
134
day -2
Sep 14th 2001
136
wa it a green coconut? or thai?
utamaroho
Sep 14th 2001
137
      RE: wa it a green coconut? or thai?
Sep 14th 2001
138
           never drink the brown ones....EVER! GROOOOOOSSSSS
utamaroho
Sep 14th 2001
139
                NOW you tell me
Sep 14th 2001
140
DAY 13
utamaroho
Sep 14th 2001
141
correction
Sep 14th 2001
142
day -1
Sep 15th 2001
143
Day 1
Sep 15th 2001
144
Day 2
Sep 16th 2001
145
WAY TO GO!
utamaroho
Sep 17th 2001
146
      veggie dreams
Sep 17th 2001
162
           jamaican roots drink is a strong drink made from several root concoction...
utamaroho
Sep 18th 2001
164
DAY 14 & 15, the weekend...
utamaroho
Sep 17th 2001
147
Still Fasting
Sep 17th 2001
148
water fasting...
utamaroho
Sep 17th 2001
149
damn...
Sep 17th 2001
150
first craving...
utamaroho
Sep 17th 2001
156
RE: first craving...
Sep 17th 2001
157
thanks for the support...
utamaroho
Sep 17th 2001
161
I work at delights of the garden
Sep 17th 2001
163
      delights is gross, and so are you...
utamaroho
Sep 18th 2001
165
           detoxification
Sep 18th 2001
166
           ***shaking head***
Sep 18th 2001
176
Day 3
Sep 18th 2001
167
i "wish" i could goto sleep that early
utamaroho
Sep 18th 2001
169
DAY 16
utamaroho
Sep 18th 2001
168
there is no joy
Sep 19th 2001
178
      for real...
utamaroho
Sep 19th 2001
180
           it's all in the angle
Sep 19th 2001
184
RE: OkayFast Falll 2001
Sep 18th 2001
170
the juiceman jr....
utamaroho
Sep 18th 2001
174
DAY 17
utamaroho
Sep 18th 2001
171
oh yeah,
utamaroho
Sep 18th 2001
172
      RE: oh yeah,
Sep 18th 2001
173
           how much?
utamaroho
Sep 18th 2001
175
my throat hurts
utamaroho
Sep 19th 2001
177
salt water
Sep 19th 2001
179
      noey is not natural...no...
utamaroho
Sep 19th 2001
181
           how is honey unnatural?
Sep 19th 2001
182
                beesmake it for bees...
utamaroho
Sep 19th 2001
183
                     i was gonna ask
Sep 19th 2001
185
                     not for me...
utamaroho
Sep 19th 2001
187
                          it's abt the texture
Sep 19th 2001
188
                     hm. interesting
Sep 19th 2001
186
Day 4
Sep 19th 2001
189
Day 5
Sep 19th 2001
190
RE: Day 5
Sep 19th 2001
191
      All in the Mind
Sep 20th 2001
192
      RE: All in the Mind
Sep 20th 2001
194
      biggest thing
Sep 20th 2001
195
           COLONIC! COLONIC!
utamaroho
Sep 20th 2001
196
           RE: COLONIC! COLONIC!
Sep 20th 2001
197
           professional one....
utamaroho
Sep 20th 2001
198
           RE: COLONIC! COLONIC!
Sep 20th 2001
200
                Getting rid of starches
Sep 21st 2001
202
                     RE: Getting rid of starches
Sep 21st 2001
203
                          Technically
Sep 21st 2001
206
           RE: biggest thing
Sep 20th 2001
201
DAY 18
utamaroho
Sep 20th 2001
193
DAY 19
utamaroho
Sep 20th 2001
199
The First Day
JESSEWA
Sep 21st 2001
204
that much juice
utamaroho
Sep 21st 2001
205
oh yeah, welcome aboard...
utamaroho
Sep 21st 2001
208
DAY 20
utamaroho
Sep 21st 2001
207
its the 19th day
Sep 21st 2001
209
      shit! niggas aint perfect! -c/o Mos Def in Bamboozled
utamaroho
Sep 21st 2001
210
2nd Day
JESSEWA
Sep 23rd 2001
211
Day 6, 7, 8, 9
Sep 23rd 2001
212
doing better.. still day 9....
Sep 23rd 2001
213
they say...
utamaroho
Sep 24th 2001
216
      damn, boy
Sep 24th 2001
217
      hey, if it works:
utamaroho
Sep 24th 2001
219
           I love you
Sep 24th 2001
221
                i love you too...
utamaroho
Sep 24th 2001
223
      RE: they say...
Sep 24th 2001
224
           y chromosome
Sep 24th 2001
225
                ummmm...
utamaroho
Sep 24th 2001
226
                     I've heard some things...
Sep 24th 2001
227
Fall Equinox Review
Sep 24th 2001
214
DAYS 20 & 21
utamaroho
Sep 24th 2001
215
For real though, can you come and tune-up my car.
Sep 24th 2001
228
      dammit jim, i'm a computer technician, not a mechanic....
utamaroho
Sep 24th 2001
229
3rd Day (final)
JESSEWA
Sep 24th 2001
218
congrats!
utamaroho
Sep 24th 2001
220
wasaaaaaabi
Sep 24th 2001
222
day 22
utamaroho
Sep 24th 2001
230
Down the mountain
utamaroho
Sep 24th 2001
231
RE: Down the mountain
Sep 24th 2001
232
      which style
Sep 24th 2001
233
      what's it physically look like?
utamaroho
Sep 25th 2001
234
Day 10 ::: intense
Sep 25th 2001
235
one more thing
Sep 25th 2001
236
I like this quote
Sep 25th 2001
237
day 23
utamaroho
Sep 25th 2001
238
Day 11
Sep 26th 2001
239
guava juice
Sep 26th 2001
240
Day 12
Sep 27th 2001
241
Enemas don't do the job
Sep 28th 2001
242
      RE: Enemas don't do the job
Sep 28th 2001
243
      enemas CAN get past the descending colon...
utamaroho
Sep 28th 2001
245
DAYS 24 & 25
utamaroho
Sep 28th 2001
244
Day 13
Sep 28th 2001
246
i drank soup too on my last 42 day fast...
utamaroho
Sep 28th 2001
247
when was the last time
Sep 30th 2001
252
      always wanted to try that potato leek soup...
utamaroho
Oct 01st 2001
254
           but...
Oct 01st 2001
262
                i don't get cheese on it...only sauce
utamaroho
Oct 04th 2001
282
carrot and pineapple?
Sep 28th 2001
248
DAY 26
utamaroho
Sep 28th 2001
249
RE: OkayFast Falll 2001
Sep 29th 2001
250
DAYS 27 & 28
utamaroho
Sep 30th 2001
251
Day 14-16
Sep 30th 2001
253
1st day of 7 days
Oct 01st 2001
255
use celery after a workout!
utamaroho
Oct 01st 2001
256
      Do you have some good celery recipes
Oct 01st 2001
257
           celery apple
utamaroho
Oct 01st 2001
258
                lemon? maybe abt a quarter of one?
Oct 01st 2001
259
                     i really wanna rip into this food combining shit really bad...
utamaroho
Oct 01st 2001
260
                          Rip into it, what is there to say about food combining?
Oct 01st 2001
261
                          you mean a la Fit For Life?
Oct 01st 2001
263
Day 1: Just water.
Oct 01st 2001
264
my last 7 days will be just water (hopefully)
utamaroho
Oct 01st 2001
265
DAY 29
utamaroho
Oct 01st 2001
266
RE: DAY 29
Oct 02nd 2001
269
      the veins around my anus are swollen
utamaroho
Oct 02nd 2001
270
           WHY?!!!!
Oct 02nd 2001
272
                my experiences can help others....
utamaroho
Oct 02nd 2001
273
Day 2 - Waste Not Want Not
Oct 02nd 2001
267
good job...
utamaroho
Oct 02nd 2001
268
DAY 30
utamaroho
Oct 02nd 2001
271
Day 3 - Just the facts
Oct 03rd 2001
274
hmmmmm...
utamaroho
Oct 04th 2001
279
day 17-20 (i think)
Oct 04th 2001
275
RE: day 17-20 (i think)
Oct 04th 2001
276
maybe i'll send you...
utamaroho
Oct 04th 2001
278
DAYS 31 & 32
utamaroho
Oct 04th 2001
277
YOU'RE GROSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oct 04th 2001
280
      my punishment...
utamaroho
Oct 04th 2001
281
           ohmigosh
Oct 05th 2001
283
day 20-21
Oct 05th 2001
284
DAY 33
utamaroho
Oct 05th 2001
285
d22
Oct 06th 2001
286
i'm glad the experience was pleasant!
utamaroho
Oct 07th 2001
287
      RE: i'm glad the experience was pleasant!
Oct 10th 2001
290
DAY 34
utamaroho
Oct 07th 2001
288
day 26...?
Oct 10th 2001
289
blood
Oct 11th 2001
291
tell me if the root works
Oct 11th 2001
292
ok
Oct 11th 2001
293
all good
Oct 14th 2001
303
RE: blood
Oct 12th 2001
296
42 days is up on the 14th
Oct 11th 2001
294
      so I did end on the 26th instead of the 28th. :)
Oct 11th 2001
295
           Best to keep the diet void
Oct 12th 2001
297
                damn
Oct 12th 2001
298
                     altho
Oct 12th 2001
299
300
Oct 12th 2001
300
You're pretty cool.
Oct 12th 2001
301
42nd Day- The Final Day
Oct 14th 2001
302
Day 1 for me. Sun/12am start time
Oct 14th 2001
304
CONGRATS!!!
Oct 14th 2001
305

Solarus
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1. "First day for me"
In response to Reply # 0


  

          

Akwaaba

I'm glad today's Labor Day. I took a concoction that I jokingly call "The Pipe Cleaner." Needless to say I glad I'm not paying a water bill.

PEace
Solarus

***Words of Wisdom***

"Every time you rise from your sleeping state, you have been reincarnated. Every time you recover from a bad experience, you have been reincarnated. Every time you have been given a new lease on life, you have been reincarnated. Every time you breath in and out, take in the fresh breath of life and feel the divine intelligence flowing in and around you, you have been reincarnated."- Mfundishi Bakari

On "love":

"I am in love everyday, whether I am with someone or not. Why? All love is based on a search for spirit. For me love is timeless, transcendent, peaceful, freeing, soul-based, unifying, and enhanced evolution. This is the basis of my activism."- Nettrice, the embodiment of Oshun

"Since we all make up the rules as we go along, love can mean many different things to many different people. But, for me love is a total commitment to understanding that is not limited to just people but is open to the totality of life. As long as we approach love from a fear based mentality and perceive it through veils of guardedness and anxiety, it will always be restricted by our fears."- Mfundishi Bakari

____________________________
"the real pyramids were built with such precision that you can't slide a piece of paper between two 4,000 lb stones, and have shafts perfectly aligned so that you can see a tiny aperture through dozens of these mammoth blocks

  

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Nettrice
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Mon Sep-03-01 01:13 PM

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2. "Making it routine"
In response to Reply # 0


  

          

Fasting once a month is great for me (2-3 days). I tried a water fast a couple of times when I first started exploring my personal spiritualality but now I do juice fasts regularly for health reasons.

Of course water fasts are more hard-core and short term. I felt as if my mind was less clouded by garbage and I was more aware, less stressed. Water fasts made me sluggish and I slept and urinated a lot so this kind of fast is good maybe once a year, for 1-2 days, for spiritual development. I come out feeling very aware and open.

The juice fasts has helped me a lot. I suffered from chronic PMS-like symptoms and painful cramping that once put me in the hospital. The juice fasts diminish these symptoms, regulate & strenghthen my "system" and encourage me to eat healthier.

Preparation is key to fasting, for me. A couple of days before a fast I stop eating processed foods, including candy, chocolate, enriched bread and rice etc. I eat more organic fruit and veggies and the night before I eat a light meal containing the fruit & veggie I will drink during my fast.

During the fast I drink half spring water and half one type of juice (usually a mix carrots, beets, apples, grapes and watermelon). The juice is freshly squeezed or organic with no additives or preservatives. Drinking one type of juice keeps my digestive activity to a minimum. I break the fast with the same fruit and veggies I had during the fast.

I know lots of women who suffer various gynecological ailments and when they hear about my success with fasting they always express an interest but can't get with fasting. They see fasting as some sort of punishment or unhealthy/dangerous. I tried all the traditional methods and baffled all the doctors when the methods did little to relieve my symptoms. But fasting does much more for me. It's a process.

If I want to get full of a satisfying life I have to empty myself (mind, body, bowels and wallet) on a regular basis. Fasting has become part of my routine and I do it the same time every month.

"By emptying your mind of thoughts, you make space for new information, realizations, visions and dreams.

By emptying your heart of desires, you make space for peace and quiet compassion.

By emptying your belly of food, you make room for chi (energy).

By emptying your pockets of money you make room for riches."

What's empty will become full.

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

"Everyone seems to have a clear idea of how other people should lead their lives, but none about his or her own"
--Paulo Coelho, "The Alchemist"

"Know thyself"

"Let your conduct be without covetousness; be content with such things as you have. For He Himself has said, "I will never leave you or forsake you". So we may boldly say, "The Lord is my helper, I will not fear. What can man do to me?"
-- Hebrews 13:5,6

"There is a difference between knowing the path and walking the path"
--Morpheus in "The Matrix" (and a Buddhist philosophy)

"It's our choices, Harry, that show what we truly are, far more than our abilities"- Dumbledore to Harry Potter "Chamber of Secrets"

<--- Blame this lady for Nutty.

  

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LexM
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99. "interesting comments..."
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part of the reason I changed my diet was because of all the gynecological issues present in my family and in myself, so a lot of what you were saying I can relate to. don't even get me started on the PMS...I'm always telling people, "some women might use it as a crutch, but the shit is REAL...don't get it twisted..."

I'll probably join in the fast later this month. One thing that will be difficult for me is getting back into a schedule of meditation...I used to do it every day, but I don't think I could handle what came to me. Ever since then, I shut it off.

One of many challenges, I suppose

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Do not use (my soul)
Do not look at (my eyes)
Do not touch (my skin)
Do not walk close to
or near (my body)
Do not breath on (my neck)
or look at (my locks)
Do not place objects
of affection
close to
or near (my heart)
its broken
thanks
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JESSEWA

Mon Sep-03-01 03:47 PM

  
3. "first fast: finished"
In response to Reply # 0


          

I skipped four meals, from sunday morning through monday morning.
I accidentally ate 2 walnuts! (i dont think that matters though)
I drank about a gallon of water, and had about a gallon of other drinks(orange juice, grapefruit juice, rice milk, banana juice, and a smoothie). Im not sure if I under-drank or not. I never really felt starved, like i expected. The only difference i noticed is that i urinated non-stop! Im not sure that i felt more energized in internally cleansed.

The next time i fast, in about 2 weeks, im going to go for 3 days minimum, 5 days maximum. I am just concerned to know if im getting the proper amount of fruit juices, and whether i should add some veggie juice or spirulina. I expect better results and will try to focus on my internal body more, and spend more alone time. Thanks to all the okp's who helped prep me for my first fast.

  

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4. "Fast Day 1"
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This is my first time fasting, and today wasn't hard.

Except for when I had to prepare meals for my daughter, that made me hungry as hell. It's almost 10 now, and I am craving some mexidips and chips from my local taco bueno and I have a slight headache.

Other than that, I am all right. I will give more details about what I am drinking tomorrow.

**********THE SIG**********

The point is for us to sit down and make some kind of agreement on some basic things and understand that what is going to be freedom to me, is not necessarily going to be freedom for you. Self-Determination must be a very important part of what We're talking about when We talk about political organization -- political activity -- that has to be underlined because everybody doesn't have the same dream. So, there has to be room for everybody to attempt to move toward that dream, as long as that dream does not include oppressing other people; exploiting other people.
-Assata Shakur

I long for the day when I can go out, eat a raw food breakfast, snack on natural fruit and vegetables, read a book, study and practice a martial art, eat dinner, cultivate my garden, play with my seeds, and rest......
-urbgriot

  

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utamaroho

Mon Sep-03-01 05:45 PM

  
5. "DAY ONE!"
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all goals complete: 1 gallon of water, 3 tablespoons of flax oil, water from 3 young coconuts, Sun Salutation (yoga routine), talk fast. ginger root chewable and tea tree oil toothpicks used to down the last bit of the water...urine as cleanand clear as water throughout the day.

Physical exercises: 100 pushups, 100 leg raises, stretching, walking around park...

feel normal, slight headache from loud music (see below)

highlight: saw the legendary Celia Cruz in concert at the Atlanta Jazz Festival...AZUCA!!! What a way to start a fast, live afro-cuban music outside in the night air...perfecto! it doesn't get any better thatn that; kicking off a fast with the energy of cuban music...the conga rhythms must be the heartbeat of life itself.

1)i have not committed sin

allright, time for bed. goodnight. stay strong.


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6. "wheatgrass juice"
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my advice: stay away. might as well go outside and graze.

my daughter had people in whole foods crackin up at her face when she just smelled it.

i am drinking:
rice milk
cocoa rice milk
3 diff types of juice
water
fasting tea

? about hunger pains: when i start feeling hungry i just drink a glass of _________. is this ok or am i supposed to meditate my way through the hunger, ya know, mind over body. just askin.

i brought an apple and an orange to work in case i start to feel lightheaded.

so far so good.

**********THE SIG**********

The point is for us to sit down and make some kind of agreement on some basic things and understand that what is going to be freedom to me, is not necessarily going to be freedom for you. Self-Determination must be a very important part of what We're talking about when We talk about political organization -- political activity -- that has to be underlined because everybody doesn't have the same dream. So, there has to be room for everybody to attempt to move toward that dream, as long as that dream does not include oppressing other people; exploiting other people.
-Assata Shakur

I long for the day when I can go out, eat a raw food breakfast, snack on natural fruit and vegetables, read a book, study and practice a martial art, eat dinner, cultivate my garden, play with my seeds, and rest......
-urbgriot

  

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utamaroho

Tue Sep-04-01 03:48 AM

  
7. "smile..."
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:) good morning

>>my daughter had people in whole foods crackin up at her face when she just smelled it.

you should see me as i pace around the table upon which that little ounce of green juice sits...i stare at it, avoid it for a minute or two, then make several attempts to just go ahead and down it before i finally touch the cup and drink it... i usually leave the premises as the juicer makes it and then come back with my nose plugged and a bottle of sorrel as a chaser...

...not taking any wheatgrass until i have my first couple of bowel movements so as to make sure it will all be assimilated easily (no sense in going through that much anguish if its not gonna be the most effective it can be right?)

T-six days till the fiery sword...my tongue is gonna hate me on that day.. Good to see you doing good. Hunger pangs? i would go get some oat milk, an oat beverage high in fiber and "heavy", i used to have them for "dinner" along with a soymilk shake...

i haven't gotten hungry yet...i figure that'll come in about two weeks...

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28. "RE: wheatgrass juice hahahahaha!"
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Yeah the stuf is nasty as hell, but it's health benefits far outweigh what you have to put up with for a few seconds as it goes down.

What I've done to make it more palatable is to take it all as a single shot (for god's sake DON'T SLOWLY SIP IT!!!!!!!!!!!!) and swish it around my mouth. During the swishing it usually gets kinda sweet tasting and then when you gulp it down it's only a second of "great god why did I just do that?!"

Some people actually like the taste of wheatgrass juice !

For me it's better to do it than not to, 'specially during a fast.

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8. "RE: OkayFast Falll 2001"
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May God Bless you all!!

Thanks so much for this post because it really is going to serve as a big boost in me doing my fast. After reading all the posts, I just went and filled my water bottle because it gave me a lot of incentive.

>This post should serve as a
>journal of sorts for all
>okps who have fasted and
>are fasting now. It's
>always good to record thoughts,
>feelings, ideas, etc. on a
>fast because you never know
>what you might come up
>with when your body is
>not spending energy on digesting
>food. So whatca say?!?!
>
I agree with you wholeheartedly on that one. Let me tell you what happened to me last year. For a long time I did not dream and I could not understand why. Well anyway, last year I eliminated starches from my diet for two weeks for the purpose of loosing weight which I successfully did, amongst other health benefits. But what I noticed this time was that after either the second or third of no starches, I started to dream, day after day after day. I feel beyond a shadow of a doubt that this is directly related to the elimination of starch. When I went back on my starches, the dream ceased. When I went back off, the dreams started again.

Now, I know that eliminating starches is no where compared to fasting but it makes me wonder if the consumption of food or the overconsumption blocks our spirituality. I remember reading in Queen Afua's book, "Heal Thyself", that fasting eliminates blockages. Could this be what happened? and why would food block us from anything.

What do the rest of you think? I really would like to know.

Peace to all!!!!!!

  

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utamaroho

Tue Sep-04-01 04:41 AM

  
9. "first off"
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most, if not nearly all of the foods in this culture are unnatural...i.e. man made, and hence faulty in design. add in the behavior in this culture to overeat and then throw in the tendency not to exercise and it makes for a imbalanced deficient human being...one incapable of "physically" living up to its potential because of all the negative attributes listed above.

i really can't get into the ramifications of how overeating impacts the individual...or how an overconsumtive lifestyle affects one's mental health, but suffice it say:

"you reap what you sow."

on a physical level, the basic physics of eating a S.A.D diet pretty much results in stagnacity of thought, rigidity of movement, and premature aging/damage/ill health towards the body. a characteristic of this diet that mst of its constituents exhibit is lack of self discipline when it comes to themselves and others. as far as the blockages; the storing of toxic substances in fatty tissues and in the blood, when released has the physical impact of fatigue and general ill feeling, so when looking at this one can associate the diet of eating unnatural, unhealthy foods directly with physical performance. the body doesn't need as much food as most people here take in so what people are effectively doing is clogging up their systems with unnecessary nutrient deficient "stuff" that just hangs around causing problems...this problem is alleviated/reversed through fasting...you start to combat and take back your body and restor it to its default settings, so to speak.
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10. "FAST changes!"
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(pun intended )

Hujambo

I ain't drinkin that Pipe Cleaner everyday. I'm only doing it once every other day. There's no reason to drink it everyday plus it I can't be goin' thru that ish everday. And after some further research I see that taking herbal and/or liquid laxatives (natural or not) everday during a fast is not advisable. Queen Afua suggests one should do it every other day, so that's what I'm gonna do. After all the queen knows best.

Taking enemas every 7th day which coincides with taking the Fiery Sword. Every third day is unnecessary.

I made the solar ICE yesterday. I made it EXTRA hot }> }> }> }> too. Bout it...

I'll see how I feel at martial arts practice tonight. May need to increase my spirulina intake for now because I won't be able to get all my vegetable juices until friday (hopefully).

PEace
Solarus

***Words of Wisdom***

"Every time you rise from your sleeping state, you have been reincarnated. Every time you recover from a bad experience, you have been reincarnated. Every time you have been given a new lease on life, you have been reincarnated. Every time you breath in and out, take in the fresh breath of life and feel the divine intelligence flowing in and around you, you have been reincarnated."- Mfundishi Bakari

On "love":

"I am in love everyday, whether I am with someone or not. Why? All love is based on a search for spirit. For me love is timeless, transcendent, peaceful, freeing, soul-based, unifying, and enhanced evolution. This is the basis of my activism."- Nettrice, the embodiment of Oshun

"Since we all make up the rules as we go along, love can mean many different things to many different people. But, for me love is a total commitment to understanding that is not limited to just people but is open to the totality of life. As long as we approach love from a fear based mentality and perceive it through veils of guardedness and anxiety, it will always be restricted by our fears."- Mfundishi Bakari

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utamaroho

Tue Sep-04-01 11:34 AM

  
11. "hmmm...that's a good one."
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>>There's no reason to drink it everyday plus it I can't be goin' thru that ish everday. And after some further research I see that taking herbal and/or liquid laxatives (natural or not) everday during a fast is not advisable.

"whatever gets you....." ahhh forget it...

i feel you, drinking a gallon of water everyday is hard work...especially when its getting cooler outside.

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13. "Yeah it was a good one"
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Mr. Justifier works everytime. All I know is I ain't drinking that ish everyday.

Pipe Cleaner Ingredients: 8oz water, 1 oz castor oil, 1oz olive oil, 1 oz flaxseed oil, l oz raw garlic juice, juice of 1 lemon and 1/2 tblespn cayenne pepper

EFF THAT!

The Queen said don't do it so that is good enough for me!



**hiding face**

PEace
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***Words of Wisdom***

"Every time you rise from your sleeping state, you have been reincarnated. Every time you recover from a bad experience, you have been reincarnated. Every time you have been given a new lease on life, you have been reincarnated. Every time you breath in and out, take in the fresh breath of life and feel the divine intelligence flowing in and around you, you have been reincarnated."- Mfundishi Bakari

On "love":

"I am in love everyday, whether I am with someone or not. Why? All love is based on a search for spirit. For me love is timeless, transcendent, peaceful, freeing, soul-based, unifying, and enhanced evolution. This is the basis of my activism."- Nettrice, the embodiment of Oshun

"Since we all make up the rules as we go along, love can mean many different things to many different people. But, for me love is a total commitment to understanding that is not limited to just people but is open to the totality of life. As long as we approach love from a fear based mentality and perceive it through veils of guardedness and anxiety, it will always be restricted by our fears."- Mfundishi Bakari

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utamaroho

Tue Sep-04-01 11:42 AM

  
14. "damn!"
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>>Pipe Cleaner Ingredients: 8oz water, 1 oz castor oil, 1oz olive oil, 1 oz flaxseed oil, l oz raw garlic juice, juice of 1 lemon and 1/2 tblespn cayenne pepper

di you pee pee or boo boo when it came out?

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16. "number 2"
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four times ( and then 2 today). At least I know that all of this past weekend's food is out. Now it's time for my WHOLE LIFE!

The thing about it is you feel it go thru your stomach thru your intestines and out of you anus, every step of the way.

It's like senna except more effective and less irritable to your colon. It's also a kidney-liver flush. Got the recipe from the Queen except I added flaxseed. I have to take it tomorrow.

PEace
Solarus

***Words of Wisdom***

"Every time you rise from your sleeping state, you have been reincarnated. Every time you recover from a bad experience, you have been reincarnated. Every time you have been given a new lease on life, you have been reincarnated. Every time you breath in and out, take in the fresh breath of life and feel the divine intelligence flowing in and around you, you have been reincarnated."- Mfundishi Bakari

On "love":

"I am in love everyday, whether I am with someone or not. Why? All love is based on a search for spirit. For me love is timeless, transcendent, peaceful, freeing, soul-based, unifying, and enhanced evolution. This is the basis of my activism."- Nettrice, the embodiment of Oshun

"Since we all make up the rules as we go along, love can mean many different things to many different people. But, for me love is a total commitment to understanding that is not limited to just people but is open to the totality of life. As long as we approach love from a fear based mentality and perceive it through veils of guardedness and anxiety, it will always be restricted by our fears."- Mfundishi Bakari

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utamaroho

Tue Sep-04-01 11:55 AM

  
17. "hmmm..."
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after my bowel movement i might try it...was it all in a few hours? i don't really want the painful ones to last while i'm at work...plus i'm still trying to work up the nerve to stick this enema applicator up my ass, maybe i'm reluctant because of the current contents of my colon still being there. i can't wait to go to the bathroom.

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Mastering others is strength, mastering yourself is true power.

The word for today is: SELF-DISCIPLINE.

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19. "Whole Day"
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But it doesn't get "real" until it hits the intestines. Then think about how long the intestines are. Also think about a liquid/oily mass moving through the intestines mixing and loosing up solid matter. It probably won't be as bad tomorrow because this past weekend's food is gone. I could feel the oil sitting "on top" of matter that was in my intestines. It reminded me of those pipe cleaning solutions that you have to put in your drain and let sit for hours while it gradually mixes in and pushes whatever is cloggin up the drains down (hence the name). Hopefully tomorrow it won't be as severe.

PEace
Solarus

***Words of Wisdom***

"Every time you rise from your sleeping state, you have been reincarnated. Every time you recover from a bad experience, you have been reincarnated. Every time you have been given a new lease on life, you have been reincarnated. Every time you breath in and out, take in the fresh breath of life and feel the divine intelligence flowing in and around you, you have been reincarnated."- Mfundishi Bakari

On "love":

"I am in love everyday, whether I am with someone or not. Why? All love is based on a search for spirit. For me love is timeless, transcendent, peaceful, freeing, soul-based, unifying, and enhanced evolution. This is the basis of my activism."- Nettrice, the embodiment of Oshun

"Since we all make up the rules as we go along, love can mean many different things to many different people. But, for me love is a total commitment to understanding that is not limited to just people but is open to the totality of life. As long as we approach love from a fear based mentality and perceive it through veils of guardedness and anxiety, it will always be restricted by our fears."- Mfundishi Bakari

____________________________
"the real pyramids were built with such precision that you can't slide a piece of paper between two 4,000 lb stones, and have shafts perfectly aligned so that you can see a tiny aperture through dozens of these mammoth blocks

  

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utamaroho

Tue Sep-04-01 12:08 PM

  
23. "i was constipated when i did it last time..."
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i absolutely HATE that oily feeling...where it sits on top of stuff...at least you know it went through the liver and pulled out bile. did you see any green pebbles?

i found the secret is to have some acidic juice handy, to cut the oil...lemon juice/orange/grapefruit/pineapple...i recommend the soul veggie detox...

arden's garden has a great juiceof all that here, but OOPS! that's only in Atlanta! sorry play again!

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The word for today is: SELF-DISCIPLINE.

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20. "RE: hmmm..."
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This may be a dumb question, but do you still have bowel movements when you're doing nothing but drinking juice/liquids??

It would seem unlikely...

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24. "Yes"
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You should always have bowel movements on a nutritional fast for cleansing. Without bowel movements you miss out on a lot of the cleansing. You probably won't have "much" though. Basically you are getting rid of all the waste still in your intestines.

PEace
Solarus

***Words of Wisdom***

"Every time you rise from your sleeping state, you have been reincarnated. Every time you recover from a bad experience, you have been reincarnated. Every time you have been given a new lease on life, you have been reincarnated. Every time you breath in and out, take in the fresh breath of life and feel the divine intelligence flowing in and around you, you have been reincarnated."- Mfundishi Bakari

On "love":

"I am in love everyday, whether I am with someone or not. Why? All love is based on a search for spirit. For me love is timeless, transcendent, peaceful, freeing, soul-based, unifying, and enhanced evolution. This is the basis of my activism."- Nettrice, the embodiment of Oshun

"Since we all make up the rules as we go along, love can mean many different things to many different people. But, for me love is a total commitment to understanding that is not limited to just people but is open to the totality of life. As long as we approach love from a fear based mentality and perceive it through veils of guardedness and anxiety, it will always be restricted by our fears."- Mfundishi Bakari

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utamaroho

Tue Sep-04-01 12:11 PM

  
25. "depends on what you drink"
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some stuff loosens the sludge on the intestinal walls...thus you see black boo boo come out instead of the usual brown or green (what?!? you never had green boo boo? eat some large kale salads and watch ) plus some drinks actually have "fiber" or stimulate the peristaltic wave motion in the intestines, pushing out old stuff. remeber, your body has to get rid of waste somehow.

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Mastering others is strength, mastering yourself is true power.

The word for today is: SELF-DISCIPLINE.

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18. "The Fiery Ass Whoopin'"
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Question about...
The Fiery Sword*- Wheatgrass (1 oz), Garlic(1/2oz), Ginger (1/2 oz), Cayenne Pepper (1 teaspoon)

Which part of this is the ingredient that instigates super-detox, i.e. the need to put aside time to recuperate? Wheatgrass? I've become addicted to Odwalla Superfood, but that probably doesn't have as much wheatgrass, etc as what you're drinking.. I've also been having the green Naked Juice and whatever is green in the juice section of my organic health food store... a little every day or so, which is EXPENSIVE. When I get my damn juicer I can quit that ish.

BTW.. since I am only doing a 30 day fast, I am probably going to be starting in on the 12th day of the okp fast.. so then I should be chiming in with a diary...


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utamaroho

Tue Sep-04-01 12:05 PM

  
21. "it's the wheatgrass mostly, though the garlic will burn ya!"
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if you're drinking green drinks you'll be straight. at least free of the taste aversion, so i think the garlic will "wake you up" and "light your fire" pure juiced garlic is nothing to play with, FOR REAL! the rest of the ingredients are easy...

p.s. please don't talk about the fiery sword till saturday, i'm scared enough as it is.. DAMN! now i have that taste in the back of my throat and on my tongue. blechhh!


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Mastering others is strength, mastering yourself is true power.

The word for today is: SELF-DISCIPLINE.

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22. "Double team"
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Definitely the wheatgrass/garlic combo. Raw garlic can be murder on the stomach. Some health circles speak against garlic saying that it is TOO strong (acidic?) for the body. The wheatgrass is also pretty potent but as whith anything it depends on your body. The ginger/garlic/cayenne pepper combo just burn the hell out of you mouth-esophagus-stomach (but I like that }> )

PEace
Solarus

***Words of Wisdom***

"Every time you rise from your sleeping state, you have been reincarnated. Every time you recover from a bad experience, you have been reincarnated. Every time you have been given a new lease on life, you have been reincarnated. Every time you breath in and out, take in the fresh breath of life and feel the divine intelligence flowing in and around you, you have been reincarnated."- Mfundishi Bakari

On "love":

"I am in love everyday, whether I am with someone or not. Why? All love is based on a search for spirit. For me love is timeless, transcendent, peaceful, freeing, soul-based, unifying, and enhanced evolution. This is the basis of my activism."- Nettrice, the embodiment of Oshun

"Since we all make up the rules as we go along, love can mean many different things to many different people. But, for me love is a total commitment to understanding that is not limited to just people but is open to the totality of life. As long as we approach love from a fear based mentality and perceive it through veils of guardedness and anxiety, it will always be restricted by our fears."- Mfundishi Bakari

____________________________
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utamaroho

Tue Sep-04-01 11:38 AM

  
12. "DAY TWO"
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3 tablespoons flax seed oil, gallon of water, 100 pushups, going walking as soon as i leave work. had it not been for certain okplayer convo, i probably would have gone and got some soy milk to drink (thanks for keeping me distracted)...

head hurts from talking to these people on the phone, but i feel a good bowel movement coming along so it looks like it'll be a good evening.

for dinner: 2 detox drinks consiting of grapefruit/lemon/orang juices mixed with ice and maple syrup. one w/ spirulina inside yummy! and practice on sun salutation.

peace.

i have not commited robbery with violence.

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27. "last night was rough"
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headaches and fatigue as soon as i left work...i'm starting to think i shouldn't be doing these push-ups, or whether its just the 3 day crisis that appens on the first three days...

interestingly enough, i was craving a vita-malt because the B vitamins seem to alway alleviate stress. so i go to the store grocery shopping with my brother (bad thing to do when fasting) and almost pass out while walking through the store...i'm thinking i need something sweet because everything i was craving just happened to be sweet. so i get this all natural passion fruit juice and by the time it hit my stomach, it was like my body sucked the sugars straight out of it and immediately into my bloodstream. my headache subsided and i felt good.

the person i was with was a chemistry major and said that sugar is processed pretty quickly and that some of my euphoric type feelings might be psychological (all i had trhoughout the day was water). also he mentioned something about low-blood sugar, which is something i've heard of people having as some sort of illness but never experienced myself...

one thing it made me remeber about fasting is that you can play around and experiment with your body being that you assimilate anything put in very quickly and without the dilution of other stuff in your intestines. it makes for easy trails and tests that you want to perform on yourself to see the effects of certain substances...

i'm going to test out kava kava, and st. johns wort later on...


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29. "low blood sugar..."
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The weird thing about low-blood sugar... you would think to supplement it by ingesting more sugar. But there's a paradox here. Low blood sugar comes from the body not producing enough of it's own insulin, but if you counter that by giving it sugar, the body pulls back on insulin production even less, which results in hypoglycemia (erratic changes in blood sugar levels due to body's confusion on how much/when to produce insulin) to diabetes (low---> no insulin production in the body.)

What I've read (I'm not sure what I think about this) but in a long term sense, the best way to deal with low blood sugar is to starve the body of sugar so it figures out it needs to produce it's own insulin, and eventually your blood sugar will normalize. I was hypoglycemic for a while-- I would be exhausted if I didn't eat, and you would see me transform in under 5 minutes== raving bitch who needs sugar NOW-->passed out, can't move on the floor. Too sleepy/wiped to even talk or make decisions.. it SUCKED. (In addition to being anemic... I was a BAD vegetarian.) This continued long past ceasing the vegetarian lifestyle, because I was still intaking large amounts of carbohydrates (read: sugar). I went on the Atkins Diet (pretty much all protein, about 20g of carbs/sugars a day.. which is the equivalent of one slice of bread) for nearly a month. The first few days were a little manic, but I haven't suffered from uncontrollable blood sugar levels since.. have pretty much normalized, which is a relief. It's horrible to think every day MUST EAT NOW otherwise the whole day will be ruined and wrought with exhaustion/major headaches.


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utamaroho

Wed Sep-05-01 07:38 AM

  
30. "i was exhausted and sleepy all day..."
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i slept like a baby though and woke up naturally (no alarm) full of energy...

thanks for the info. i don't know if i can starve my body (that feeling was painful, and my eye sockets hurt) but i might try it later on...

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15. "2nd Day"
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Hujambo

I need to go study my words. I think I need to up my spirulina intake for now until I can get some money for fruit and vegetables. I've only had lemon juice but nothing else. Just water, the solar ICE, and spirulina.

Didn't practice my kicks yesterday like I wanted because I went to see "Our Song." Good movie but I can't do that anymore.

Playtime's Over.

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"Every time you rise from your sleeping state, you have been reincarnated. Every time you recover from a bad experience, you have been reincarnated. Every time you have been given a new lease on life, you have been reincarnated. Every time you breath in and out, take in the fresh breath of life and feel the divine intelligence flowing in and around you, you have been reincarnated."- Mfundishi Bakari

On "love":

"I am in love everyday, whether I am with someone or not. Why? All love is based on a search for spirit. For me love is timeless, transcendent, peaceful, freeing, soul-based, unifying, and enhanced evolution. This is the basis of my activism."- Nettrice, the embodiment of Oshun

"Since we all make up the rules as we go along, love can mean many different things to many different people. But, for me love is a total commitment to understanding that is not limited to just people but is open to the totality of life. As long as we approach love from a fear based mentality and perceive it through veils of guardedness and anxiety, it will always be restricted by our fears."- Mfundishi Bakari

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26. "Day 2"
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Day 1 wasn't hard (until the evening), but day 2 has been smoother. not even thinking about food yet.

tomorrow i will tell ya'll about juice-fasting while working out!

**********THE SIG**********

The point is for us to sit down and make some kind of agreement on some basic things and understand that what is going to be freedom to me, is not necessarily going to be freedom for you. Self-Determination must be a very important part of what We're talking about when We talk about political organization -- political activity -- that has to be underlined because everybody doesn't have the same dream. So, there has to be room for everybody to attempt to move toward that dream, as long as that dream does not include oppressing other people; exploiting other people.
-Assata Shakur

I long for the day when I can go out, eat a raw food breakfast, snack on natural fruit and vegetables, read a book, study and practice a martial art, eat dinner, cultivate my garden, play with my seeds, and rest......
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31. "I'm having issues..."
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I still plan on joining in @ some point, but I don't know when...

I had some really aggravating shit go down this weekend...

I'll let u guys know when I'm on board...until then, blessings!


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44. "Same here"
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>I still plan on joining in @ some point, but I don't know when...

?: did somebody come up w/ a fake-me-out/vegan/non-diary cheesecake yet?

Just askin' cause it's my kryptonite.


y'all *really* think" that you're tricking somebody into something don't you? what you don't realize is that most women decide within the first 5 minutes of meeting a dude whether or not they'll sleep with him. all your "game" is merely entertainment. - H

  

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45. "actually there is..."
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there is even a raw version...both of which actually TASTE better than the original...

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47. "OH!"
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Please tell me you have the recipe or direct me to it. Thanks!

y'all *really* think" that you're tricking somebody into something don't you? what you don't realize is that most women decide within the first 5 minutes of meeting a dude whether or not they'll sleep with him. all your "game" is merely entertainment. - H

  

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Wed Sep-05-01 12:42 PM

  
48. "i'll try to get it for you"
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the place here in ATL usually orders them...vegan cakes are the shit!
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49. "RE: i'll try to get it for you"
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*smooches! thanks uta! You have no idea how relieved I am. lol
Had me sweatin and ish, thinkin I was gone havta give up cheesecake.

y'all *really* think" that you're tricking somebody into something don't you? what you don't realize is that most women decide within the first 5 minutes of meeting a dude whether or not they'll sleep with him. all your "game" is merely entertainment. - H

  

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52. "now THAT I'd like to see..."
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I hate cheesecake



ok, let the crucifying begin...

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66. "RE: now THAT I'd like to see..."
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You absolutely HATE it? I mean, you don't like it even a lil bit? Well, to each her own. MORE FOR ME, YAY!

y'all *really* think" that you're tricking somebody into something don't you? what you don't realize is that most women decide within the first 5 minutes of meeting a dude whether or not they'll sleep with him. all your "game" is merely entertainment. - H

  

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73. "not at all"
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not one bit...

but i'm not big on any kind of pastry anyway. but cheesecake just isn't...cake, really. it's...weird...lol. i dunno

yeah...more for u

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Do not use (my soul)
Do not look at (my eyes)
Do not touch (my skin)
Do not walk close to
or near (my body)
Do not breath on (my neck)
or look at (my locks)
Do not place objects
of affection
close to
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its broken
thanks
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76. "RE: not at all"
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>but cheesecake just isn't...cake, really. it's...weird

STOP! are you kidding? O.k, well... so it ain't "cake" cake. More like a pie. but definitely _not_ weird...unique maybe, but not weird. Soo _not_ weird that there's a factory named after it here in Cali (Cheesecake Factory). It's prolly the most versatile "pie" (w/ a "cake" name) there is. lol
Turtle cheesecake= WON-DER-FUL...almost sinful, I tell ya!

y'all *really* think" that you're tricking somebody into something don't you? what you don't realize is that most women decide within the first 5 minutes of meeting a dude whether or not they'll sleep with him. all your "game" is merely entertainment. - H

  

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93. "lol"
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I'll take your word for it


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or look at (my locks)
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its broken
thanks
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131. "RE: lol"
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HTP
u never went to Cheesecake Factory in Boston Lex? it's um near Paparazzi beside Cambridgeside Galleria Mall. Food's good. and the cheesecake is good too.
HTPU
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in our growth, as opposed to a finite
and essential quality of our spirit.
-Ra Un Nefer Amen (paraphrased)

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32. "3rd Day"
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Hujambo

Last night was a particularly rough practice because people were bullishin in doing their stances and kicks. Melenga, our instructor, got pissed and made us work harder. I got through it though. In fact I did so well that he said he saw improvement in my stances, kicks, and overall stamina . However AFTER practice I was tired as H-E-double hockey sticks.

This morning I woke up an hour and thirty minutes late. I did not do all of the gates (opening exercises)but did everthing else. I was so fatigued and still am. I went to work at Delights of the Garden (raw foods restaurant). Fasting sucks! Actually I didn't have an urge to eat. I never felt hungry but I am very tired. I've just been drinking water. I need some juices for real! So i came up with a plan:

Everybody on okayactivist send a check or money order to ... (on second thought just inbox me )

I tasted a little bit of carrot juice (from which I licked from a container after I had poured its contents into a cup for a customer) and it was probably the best carrot juice I have ever tasted. I would have made some for myself but THERE WERE NO MORE CARROTS !

Send money fast!

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"Every time you rise from your sleeping state, you have been reincarnated. Every time you recover from a bad experience, you have been reincarnated. Every time you have been given a new lease on life, you have been reincarnated. Every time you breath in and out, take in the fresh breath of life and feel the divine intelligence flowing in and around you, you have been reincarnated."- Mfundishi Bakari

On "love":

"I am in love everyday, whether I am with someone or not. Why? All love is based on a search for spirit. For me love is timeless, transcendent, peaceful, freeing, soul-based, unifying, and enhanced evolution. This is the basis of my activism."- Nettrice, the embodiment of Oshun

"Since we all make up the rules as we go along, love can mean many different things to many different people. But, for me love is a total commitment to understanding that is not limited to just people but is open to the totality of life. As long as we approach love from a fear based mentality and perceive it through veils of guardedness and anxiety, it will always be restricted by our fears."- Mfundishi Bakari

____________________________
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utamaroho

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33. "see post 27"
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i think the water fasting is good, but at some point the body needs some sugar...that passion fruit really did it for me...


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34. "u want juice?"
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lemme know- i got a fruit and vegetable surplus, a juicer, a car, and a maternal instinct thats kicking in big time and allows me to get panicked abt someone trying to survive on water alone-

and a lotta ginger that's nearing it's end and needs to be juiced

i'll inbox u sum options. if yr interested, lemme know. if not, don't rd them.


==**peace**==

"baby,
I'd draw yuh bath
like Picasso..

pick you,
like fruit
off yuh family tree. &
eatcha' honeydew ass,
wet"

-Giovanni

i believe in education and empowerment through art. i believe that movements happen when ideas are set to music. bodies and people come together through dance and movement, eyes awaken in the face of a good movie, and whatever ya gotta say is useless unless you can use these tools to reach right into people

"the skilled binder uses no strings or knots, while to unloose what he has bound would be impossible." Lao Tzu

"The logic of divide and rule is still valid today." Capleton

DomePoem Poets; Vibe Nation; One ppl under the spoken word

.....

"Who need fossil fuel when the sun ain't goin' nowhere"
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35. "how far you willing to drive?"
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:)
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37. "not that maternal"
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wait a month

==**peace**==

"baby,
I'd draw yuh bath
like Picasso..

pick you,
like fruit
off yuh family tree. &
eatcha' honeydew ass,
wet"

-Giovanni

i believe in education and empowerment through art. i believe that movements happen when ideas are set to music. bodies and people come together through dance and movement, eyes awaken in the face of a good movie, and whatever ya gotta say is useless unless you can use these tools to reach right into people

"the skilled binder uses no strings or knots, while to unloose what he has bound would be impossible." Lao Tzu

"The logic of divide and rule is still valid today." Capleton

DomePoem Poets; Vibe Nation; One ppl under the spoken word

.....

"Who need fossil fuel when the sun ain't goin' nowhere"
- Amiri Baraka

http://www.okayplayer.com/guidelines

BUY MY BOOK- only $6! Inbox me for details

  

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39. "INTERESTED!!!!!!!"
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36. "RE: 3rd Day"
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How expensive is juice?
How broke are you??

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38. "Broke as a Joke"
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>How expensive is juice?

Fruit and veggies to juice for a week? About $40

>How broke are you??

I'm so poor I went to a juice bar and asked if I can put a cup of carrot juice on layaway.

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40. "Check your inbox... n/m"
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41. "RE: Check your inbox... n/m"
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take 2...
wish there was a better way of sending msgs on here... guess I'm impatient.

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42. "RE: Check your inbox... n/m"
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If you're a suga momma, pass some $$ this way sista! lol
My eyes got real big just now. what? did you and Jase come into some moolah you neglected to tell me about?

y'all *really* think" that you're tricking somebody into something don't you? what you don't realize is that most women decide within the first 5 minutes of meeting a dude whether or not they'll sleep with him. all your "game" is merely entertainment. - H

  

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43. "check YOUR inbox"
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giiiiiirl.


You know better than that.

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64. "Ushukuru"
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(Thanks)

Hujambo

I thanks all of those who extended their hands in help yesterday. I am deeply gracious. After class my friend took me to Fresh Fields so I could get something to drink. I got some wheatgrass (didn't make me feel bad at all, probably cuz alot of toxins aren't in my body right now) and some freshly apple and orange juice. Should got some fresh carrot juice but their prices suck.

Hail to Fenti...

PEace
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"Every time you rise from your sleeping state, you have been reincarnated. Every time you recover from a bad experience, you have been reincarnated. Every time you have been given a new lease on life, you have been reincarnated. Every time you breath in and out, take in the fresh breath of life and feel the divine intelligence flowing in and around you, you have been reincarnated."- Mfundishi Bakari

On "love":

"I am in love everyday, whether I am with someone or not. Why? All love is based on a search for spirit. For me love is timeless, transcendent, peaceful, freeing, soul-based, unifying, and enhanced evolution. This is the basis of my activism."- Nettrice, the embodiment of Oshun

"Since we all make up the rules as we go along, love can mean many different things to many different people. But, for me love is a total commitment to understanding that is not limited to just people but is open to the totality of life. As long as we approach love from a fear based mentality and perceive it through veils of guardedness and anxiety, it will always be restricted by our fears."- Mfundishi Bakari

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Wed Sep-05-01 12:37 PM

  
46. "DAY 3"
In response to Reply # 0


          

after a good night's sleep. i woke up feeling better.

had first bowel movement...yayyyy

1/2 gallon of H2O so far...
some pineapple juice
1 vitamalt
flax seed oil

meditated on some stuff, one more day left of "the faster's crisis period". the first three days are the hardest.

gotta get outta here now. time for 2nd "number 2". ( i'm punny )

peace, stay strong.

i have not stolen.



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Mastering others is strength, mastering yourself is true power.

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50. "Alright"
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>had first bowel movement...yayyyy

Waaaay too much info here. I can't take it. Please stop the boo-boo talk, k? or dress it up a bit...for my stomach's sake.

y'all *really* think" that you're tricking somebody into something don't you? what you don't realize is that most women decide within the first 5 minutes of meeting a dude whether or not they'll sleep with him. all your "game" is merely entertainment. - H

  

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51. "RE: DAY 3"
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>i have not stolen.

hypothetically, how do you deal with these affirmations if say, over the course of your life, you _have_ stolen?? (or violated any of the other 42+ affirmations, as I recall there are more I might contend with..

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utamaroho

Thu Sep-06-01 03:02 AM

  
54. "well for me..."
In response to Reply # 51


          

every time the sun rises...i start a new day. the slate is clean. this does not however blind me from my memory which helps to provide perspective for current and future actions, but for the last few days i have commited to followwing these confessions...but then again they've been pretty easy ones.

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Mastering others is strength, mastering yourself is true power.

The word for today is: SELF-DISCIPLINE.

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53. "question about ginger"
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I got some ginger root yesterday & I wanna add it to some juice...do I have to peel it or anything? I know to use it sparingly...



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utamaroho

Thu Sep-06-01 03:03 AM

  
55. "try apple lemon ginger juice..."
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you don't have to peel ginger. just make sure there is no mold on it...i wash mine off...the only time i peel it is when i chew on it.

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56. "that's just what I was gonna make!"
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got the apples & lemons & everything

get outta my head lol

thanks

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60. "limit yr lemons"
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heavy on everything else


==**peace**==

"baby,
I'd draw yuh bath
like Picasso..

pick you,
like fruit
off yuh family tree. &
eatcha' honeydew ass,
wet"

-Giovanni

i believe in education and empowerment through art. i believe that movements happen when ideas are set to music. bodies and people come together through dance and movement, eyes awaken in the face of a good movie, and whatever ya gotta say is useless unless you can use these tools to reach right into people

"the skilled binder uses no strings or knots, while to unloose what he has bound would be impossible." Lao Tzu

"The logic of divide and rule is still valid today." Capleton

DomePoem Poets; Vibe Nation; One ppl under the spoken word

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90. "it was deeeelicious"
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:9

I'll definitely have to make it again sometime...royal gala apples are the best. they're unbelievably sweet...perfect for juice

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Do not use (my soul)
Do not look at (my eyes)
Do not touch (my skin)
Do not walk close to
or near (my body)
Do not breath on (my neck)
or look at (my locks)
Do not place objects
of affection
close to
or near (my heart)
its broken
thanks
"out of order" (c) OKP madawaka

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91. "green apples"
In response to Reply # 90


          

or any kinda apple with a snap to it

are great too

==**peace**==

"baby,
I'd draw yuh bath
like Picasso..

pick you,
like fruit
off yuh family tree. &
eatcha' honeydew ass,
wet"

-Giovanni

i believe in education and empowerment through art. i believe that movements happen when ideas are set to music. bodies and people come together through dance and movement, eyes awaken in the face of a good movie, and whatever ya gotta say is useless unless you can use these tools to reach right into people

"the skilled binder uses no strings or knots, while to unloose what he has bound would be impossible." Lao Tzu

"The logic of divide and rule is still valid today." Capleton

DomePoem Poets; Vibe Nation; One ppl under the spoken word

.....

"Who need fossil fuel when the sun ain't goin' nowhere"
- Amiri Baraka

http://www.okayplayer.com/guidelines

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59. "peel it and add pear"
In response to Reply # 55


          

i say it's too damned good to use sparingly. go ahead, juice up a biggol chunk. adds bite to yr juice.


==**peace**==

"baby,
I'd draw yuh bath
like Picasso..

pick you,
like fruit
off yuh family tree. &
eatcha' honeydew ass,
wet"

-Giovanni

i believe in education and empowerment through art. i believe that movements happen when ideas are set to music. bodies and people come together through dance and movement, eyes awaken in the face of a good movie, and whatever ya gotta say is useless unless you can use these tools to reach right into people

"the skilled binder uses no strings or knots, while to unloose what he has bound would be impossible." Lao Tzu

"The logic of divide and rule is still valid today." Capleton

DomePoem Poets; Vibe Nation; One ppl under the spoken word

.....

"Who need fossil fuel when the sun ain't goin' nowhere"
- Amiri Baraka

http://www.okayplayer.com/guidelines

BUY MY BOOK- only $6! Inbox me for details

  

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62. "yeah i know"
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I started sipping on lemon ginger echinea juice not too long ago...good, but strong as hell. might as well be drinkin brandy

so i'll start off slow & see what happens

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"i want to be the one she calls on her cigarette break/not the cause of it" ~~Saul Williams

~~~~
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63. "next yr"
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i'll try a brandy fast

watch out

==**peace**==

"baby,
I'd draw yuh bath
like Picasso..

pick you,
like fruit
off yuh family tree. &
eatcha' honeydew ass,
wet"

-Giovanni

i believe in education and empowerment through art. i believe that movements happen when ideas are set to music. bodies and people come together through dance and movement, eyes awaken in the face of a good movie, and whatever ya gotta say is useless unless you can use these tools to reach right into people

"the skilled binder uses no strings or knots, while to unloose what he has bound would be impossible." Lao Tzu

"The logic of divide and rule is still valid today." Capleton

DomePoem Poets; Vibe Nation; One ppl under the spoken word

.....

"Who need fossil fuel when the sun ain't goin' nowhere"
- Amiri Baraka

http://www.okayplayer.com/guidelines

BUY MY BOOK- only $6! Inbox me for details

  

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57. "QUESTION"
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I noticed you keep mentioning flax seed oil. What is the purpose of this when fasting? You also mentioned vitamalt. But I thought when fasting you only are either on water or live juices.

Also, I take vitamins but since I am only having juice will it be useless to take the vitamins since they say take with meals and juice is really not a meal at least in terms of digesting?

PEACE.

  

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utamaroho

Thu Sep-06-01 04:18 AM

  
61. "flax provides essential oils..."
In response to Reply # 57


          

used to make your skin glow...omega 3,6, and 9 EFA's

the vitamalt? i was weak and wanted some B vitamins...i'm gross basically




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58. "day 3 (yesterday)"
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i was really busy and i didn't drink enough water so i got a little dehydrated. you have to drink water, not just juice!

oh, and going to dance class while fasting didn't feel any different. i wasn't lightheaded or anything.

drink wate

**********THE SIG**********

The point is for us to sit down and make some kind of agreement on some basic things and understand that what is going to be freedom to me, is not necessarily going to be freedom for you. Self-Determination must be a very important part of what We're talking about when We talk about political organization -- political activity -- that has to be underlined because everybody doesn't have the same dream. So, there has to be room for everybody to attempt to move toward that dream, as long as that dream does not include oppressing other people; exploiting other people.
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I long for the day when I can go out, eat a raw food breakfast, snack on natural fruit and vegetables, read a book, study and practice a martial art, eat dinner, cultivate my garden, play with my seeds, and rest......
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utamaroho

Thu Sep-06-01 05:37 AM

  
65. "good job!"
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:) tres dias mas

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67. "JUICERS"
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I'm still shopping for a juicer, getting anxious now because I need to get one before the next 9 days are up.

I saw this comparison chart online:
http://www.discountjuicers.com/compare.html

The "good" juicers are upwards of 150, and I'm going back and forth on how much I want to (can) spend. The cheaper ones say they can't juice wheatgrass? Why do you imagine that is?

And how seriously should I take this chart, since I know a lotta you kids are juicing up peels (wheatgrass?) et al in a $60 juiceman??

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Dyskotek

Thu Sep-06-01 08:44 AM

  
68. "I love my juicer"
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When i fast, i drink carrot, apple, and celery juice (to keep my strength up) and save the pulp. When i break my fast, i eat some of the pulp to clean out what ever is left in my system. Whew! That is pure fiber, let me tell you. Its natures Roto-rooter. I'm still trying to concoct a more appetizing way to prepare the pulp. Any ideas?

This is a great topic. I going to try to fast all weekend. I usually only fast a day, so this should be fun.....

now, :'( later....

  

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70. "i saw "pulp""
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and thought maybe someone somewhere had discovered sumthin to do with it


*frustrating*


==**peace**==

"baby,
I'd draw yuh bath
like Picasso..

pick you,
like fruit
off yuh family tree. &
eatcha' honeydew ass,
wet"

-Giovanni

i believe in education and empowerment through art. i believe that movements happen when ideas are set to music. bodies and people come together through dance and movement, eyes awaken in the face of a good movie, and whatever ya gotta say is useless unless you can use these tools to reach right into people

"the skilled binder uses no strings or knots, while to unloose what he has bound would be impossible." Lao Tzu

"The logic of divide and rule is still valid today." Capleton

DomePoem Poets; Vibe Nation; One ppl under the spoken word

.....

"Who need fossil fuel when the sun ain't goin' nowhere"
- Amiri Baraka

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utamaroho

Thu Sep-06-01 09:12 AM

  
72. "carrot supreme salad"
In response to Reply # 70


          

got soul veggie and experience divine food...

take lemon juice and a little carrot juice and pour on pulp, then add raisins...and a little soymilk...

good shit! stop talking about food, DAMN!

ok, time for a performance review...the moment of truth. will i get fired or not? if i do, Dairy Queen, here i come...i swear, if i get fired today, i'm gonna start eating meat! seriously.
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Mastering others is strength, mastering yourself is true power.

The word for today is: SELF-DISCIPLINE.

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95. "I hate carrots..."
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but they're supposed to be so good for u...

if u can give me a decent carrot juice recipe, maybe I'll try it...

any takers?

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103. "?"
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"if u can give me a decent carrot juice recipe, maybe I'll try it..."

Carrot Juice Recipe

Carrots
1 Juicer

1. Prep carrots (wash and cut to fit the juicer).
2. Turn on juicer
3. Put carrots in the shoot and collect juice with bowl or cup.
4. Drink juice



PEace
Solarus

***Words of Wisdom***

"Every time you rise from your sleeping state, you have been reincarnated. Every time you recover from a bad experience, you have been reincarnated. Every time you have been given a new lease on life, you have been reincarnated. Every time you breath in and out, take in the fresh breath of life and feel the divine intelligence flowing in and around you, you have been reincarnated."- Mfundishi Bakari

On "love":

"I am in love everyday, whether I am with someone or not. Why? All love is based on a search for spirit. For me love is timeless, transcendent, peaceful, freeing, soul-based, unifying, and enhanced evolution. This is the basis of my activism."- Nettrice, the embodiment of Oshun

"Since we all make up the rules as we go along, love can mean many different things to many different people. But, for me love is a total commitment to understanding that is not limited to just people but is open to the totality of life. As long as we approach love from a fear based mentality and perceive it through veils of guardedness and anxiety, it will always be restricted by our fears."- Mfundishi Bakari

____________________________
"the real pyramids were built with such precision that you can't slide a piece of paper between two 4,000 lb stones, and have shafts perfectly aligned so that you can see a tiny aperture through dozens of these mammoth blocks

  

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104. "or for a twist, add ginger"
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==**peace**==

"baby,
I'd draw yuh bath
like Picasso..

pick you,
like fruit
off yuh family tree. &
eatcha' honeydew ass,
wet"

-Giovanni

i believe in education and empowerment through art. i believe that movements happen when ideas are set to music. bodies and people come together through dance and movement, eyes awaken in the face of a good movie, and whatever ya gotta say is useless unless you can use these tools to reach right into people

"the skilled binder uses no strings or knots, while to unloose what he has bound would be impossible." Lao Tzu

"The logic of divide and rule is still valid today." Capleton

DomePoem Poets; Vibe Nation; One ppl under the spoken word

.....

"Who need fossil fuel when the sun ain't goin' nowhere"
- Amiri Baraka

http://www.okayplayer.com/guidelines

BUY MY BOOK- only $6! Inbox me for details

  

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112. "perhaps you misunderstood me..."
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lol

I HATE the taste of carrots...so plain ol' carrot juice just ain't gonna cut it...

I need something in it...carrot/apple is supposed to be pretty good. I'm going to try that sometime this week.

lately I've been fruit crazy ....the other day I made some blueberry/pineapple/peach/apple/grape juice lol


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"Complexity is a phrase some old idiot used to give validation to weak poetry." ~~ThaAnthology

Do not use (my soul)
Do not look at (my eyes)
Do not touch (my skin)
Do not walk close to
or near (my body)
Do not breath on (my neck)
or look at (my locks)
Do not place objects
of affection
close to
or near (my heart)
its broken
thanks
"out of order" (c) OKP madawaka

~~~~
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http://rahareiki.tumblr.com/
http://seatofbliss.blogspot.com/

  

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127. "RE: perhaps you misunderstood me..."
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mmmmm..

carrot/apple juice is my usual 'breakfast' drink..sometimes with a little ginger or spirulina..

ya see, i cant stand celery..but ive found that if i juice carrots w/ my celery..then its alright..just find something that will somewhat cover the carrot taste, and still taste good!..
peace
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========================================

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129. "yup yup"
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*moment of silence for all those lost & those yet to be found*

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151. "tried carrot juice & didn't die"
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:D

it actually tastes a little different from just munching on one (yuck!!!)

I added some apples & ginger and that took the edge off...but i still couldn't drink the whole glass. guess it was a psychological thing...



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*moment of silence for all those lost & those yet to be found*

"if i'm smart enough
to sneak around and learn to fly a plane
to get me and all my friends enough false i.d. to board us airplanes
to get me and all my friends through metal detectors and past security guards while hiding weapons
to make an entire plane load of people afraid of my boxcutter
i doubt i would be stupid enough
to leave all the evidence behind in a rental car
unless
i wanted you to think i was something that i'm not" (c) okp 2ndsurvivor

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152. "Next time you waste carrot juice"
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like that, just think about all the starving Ethernpians out there and the pitiful solando starving himself in DC.
PEace
solarICE

Still representin' the RED, BLACK & GREEN since 1978!
EFF RED, WHITE, & BLUE*!

Ain't a damn thing changed...

*That includes the Panamanian "dummy government setup by you know who" flag.


***Something to think about***

"if the god of these religions (judaism/christianity/islam) is not above using terrorist tactics to make people believe in Him (and what's the big deal if people do Not believe in Him? God is a egomaniac) then why wouldnt the hardcore followers of these faiths have a tendency to terrorism as well?"- yuckwheat

***PEace to those who made the transition...***

____________________________
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utamaroho

Mon Sep-17-01 04:06 AM

  
153. "allright, that's it..."
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>>solando ?!?!

what the fuck is that?!? you're gay!


(((((PEACE)))))

  

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160. "can't be puttin names out there"
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what u think this is?




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155. "can't u"
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hang out in payroll and talk abt how damn hungry u are?

(works until someone says "'s ok. i'll buy u a burger." and u tell them u're fasting and they say "of course yr hungry")


==**peace**==

"baby,
I'd draw yuh bath
like Picasso..

pick you,
like fruit
off yuh family tree. &
eatcha' honeydew ass,
wet"

-Giovanni


"the skilled binder uses no strings or knots, while to unloose what he has bound would be impossible." Lao Tzu

"The logic of divide and rule is still valid today." Capleton

"if i'm smart enough to sneak around and learn to fly a plane to get me and all my friends enough false i.d. to board us airplanes to get me and all my friends through metal detectors and past security guards while hiding weapons to make an entire plane load of people afraid of my boxcutter i doubt i would be stupid enough to leave all the evidence behind in a rental car
unless i wanted you to think i was something that i'm not" (c) 2ndsurvivor

DomePoem Poets; Vibe Nation; One ppl under the spoken word

useful links:
news: http://www.blackelectorate.com/links.asp
veg: http://www.vrg.org

.....

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158. "*hanging head*"
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:o

*baby voice* sowwwy....

_________________________________________________________
*moment of silence for all those lost & those yet to be found*

"if i'm smart enough
to sneak around and learn to fly a plane
to get me and all my friends enough false i.d. to board us airplanes
to get me and all my friends through metal detectors and past security guards while hiding weapons
to make an entire plane load of people afraid of my boxcutter
i doubt i would be stupid enough
to leave all the evidence behind in a rental car
unless
i wanted you to think i was something that i'm not" (c) okp 2ndsurvivor

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154. "better than gerber carrot"
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==**peace**==

"baby,
I'd draw yuh bath
like Picasso..

pick you,
like fruit
off yuh family tree. &
eatcha' honeydew ass,
wet"

-Giovanni


"the skilled binder uses no strings or knots, while to unloose what he has bound would be impossible." Lao Tzu

"The logic of divide and rule is still valid today." Capleton

"if i'm smart enough to sneak around and learn to fly a plane to get me and all my friends enough false i.d. to board us airplanes to get me and all my friends through metal detectors and past security guards while hiding weapons to make an entire plane load of people afraid of my boxcutter i doubt i would be stupid enough to leave all the evidence behind in a rental car
unless i wanted you to think i was something that i'm not" (c) 2ndsurvivor

DomePoem Poets; Vibe Nation; One ppl under the spoken word

useful links:
news: http://www.blackelectorate.com/links.asp
veg: http://www.vrg.org

.....

"Who need fossil fuel when the sun ain't goin' nowhere"
- Amiri Baraka

http://www.okayplayer.com/guidelines

BUY MY BOOK- only $6! Inbox me for details

  

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LexM
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159. "oh don't remind me..."
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dispatriot
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78. "pulp nonfiction"
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I saw this at living-foods, by chance::
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There is a book called Beyond Juicing that gives all sorts of ideas for the pulp. I found it in a couple of places while doing research on the net for my juicer.
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guerilla_love
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80. "did it all involve"
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pouring summa the juice back on the pulp? that seems to be the common thread.......


==**peace**==

"baby,
I'd draw yuh bath
like Picasso..

pick you,
like fruit
off yuh family tree. &
eatcha' honeydew ass,
wet"

-Giovanni

i believe in education and empowerment through art. i believe that movements happen when ideas are set to music. bodies and people come together through dance and movement, eyes awaken in the face of a good movie, and whatever ya gotta say is useless unless you can use these tools to reach right into people

"the skilled binder uses no strings or knots, while to unloose what he has bound would be impossible." Lao Tzu

"The logic of divide and rule is still valid today." Capleton

DomePoem Poets; Vibe Nation; One ppl under the spoken word

.....

"Who need fossil fuel when the sun ain't goin' nowhere"
- Amiri Baraka

http://www.okayplayer.com/guidelines

BUY MY BOOK- only $6! Inbox me for details

  

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LexM
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94. "when i juice"
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i don't get any pulp (which I hate anyway...even in orange juice...bleeech), the juiceman takes care of that for u....just this foamy stuff...

I'm gonna get a strainer this weekend & elimate that problem...



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Do not use (my soul)
Do not look at (my eyes)
Do not touch (my skin)
Do not walk close to
or near (my body)
Do not breath on (my neck)
or look at (my locks)
Do not place objects
of affection
close to
or near (my heart)
its broken
thanks
"out of order" (c) OKP madawaka

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utamaroho

Fri Sep-07-01 09:22 AM

  
98. "she's talking about the pulp in the receptacle on the back..."
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that you wastefully throw away...

  

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100. "ohhhh ok"
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well, if i had a compost heap or something i'd save it...

but to eat it? nah....I'm cool, thanks

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utamaroho

Fri Sep-07-01 09:30 AM

  
101. "if you don't have a compost heap..."
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just ball the pulp up like a snowball...wait till nightfall then chuck it as far as you can off the side of the balcony...

don't got a balcony? then just go outside and target a bumb on the side walk about 50 yards away and deliver that smelly bastard lunch! he'll appreciate it, i promise.

  

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102. "lol"
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it ain't that deep



I think I'll go home tonight and do something w/ some blueberries...


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69. "omega 8001"
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I'm thinking about (ack...can't breathe..) spending the money (sound of dollar bills whooshing away) on this one:

Omega 8001 ($250ish... GULP)

Vegetable Juicer
Fruit Juicer
Wheatgrass Juicer
Nut Butters
Baby Food
Frozen Desserts
Mincing/Chopping
Pasta Extruder

..the specs are too numerous to name, but I've been thinking about going vegan-- at least for a little while, try it on-- after I finish the juice fast, and this model would be conducive to that, what with the mincing, and making bread from rice, etc... See more here: http://www.discountjuicers.com/omega8001.html

I'm looking at it as a looooong term investment. Though the money still scares me. Anyone have an opinion?

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71. "wow"
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nut butters and baby food.....

unless, of course, a food processor wd work...... how dya make nut butters??


==**peace**==

"baby,
I'd draw yuh bath
like Picasso..

pick you,
like fruit
off yuh family tree. &
eatcha' honeydew ass,
wet"

-Giovanni

i believe in education and empowerment through art. i believe that movements happen when ideas are set to music. bodies and people come together through dance and movement, eyes awaken in the face of a good movie, and whatever ya gotta say is useless unless you can use these tools to reach right into people

"the skilled binder uses no strings or knots, while to unloose what he has bound would be impossible." Lao Tzu

"The logic of divide and rule is still valid today." Capleton

DomePoem Poets; Vibe Nation; One ppl under the spoken word

.....

"Who need fossil fuel when the sun ain't goin' nowhere"
- Amiri Baraka

http://www.okayplayer.com/guidelines

BUY MY BOOK- only $6! Inbox me for details

  

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dispatriot
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75. "RE: wow"
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I think it's just the setting and/or attachment that it grinds/mushes the contents up with.

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74. "young coconut juice"
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utma was right: delicious and filling

sorry i didn't listen earlier


==**peace**==

"baby,
I'd draw yuh bath
like Picasso..

pick you,
like fruit
off yuh family tree. &
eatcha' honeydew ass,
wet"

-Giovanni

i believe in education and empowerment through art. i believe that movements happen when ideas are set to music. bodies and people come together through dance and movement, eyes awaken in the face of a good movie, and whatever ya gotta say is useless unless you can use these tools to reach right into people

"the skilled binder uses no strings or knots, while to unloose what he has bound would be impossible." Lao Tzu

"The logic of divide and rule is still valid today." Capleton

DomePoem Poets; Vibe Nation; One ppl under the spoken word

.....

"Who need fossil fuel when the sun ain't goin' nowhere"
- Amiri Baraka

http://www.okayplayer.com/guidelines

BUY MY BOOK- only $6! Inbox me for details

  

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utamaroho

Thu Sep-06-01 10:53 AM

  
77. "seriously..."
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it's called a complete food...

i think i could live off them for weeks...i don't usually say that much, but they make me feel energized physically and mentally....just something about em...
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Mastering others is strength, mastering yourself is true power.

The word for today is: SELF-DISCIPLINE.

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79. "my first reaction was"
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this isn't fasting! i donno if i cd finish the whole can!

==**peace**==

"baby,
I'd draw yuh bath
like Picasso..

pick you,
like fruit
off yuh family tree. &
eatcha' honeydew ass,
wet"

-Giovanni

i believe in education and empowerment through art. i believe that movements happen when ideas are set to music. bodies and people come together through dance and movement, eyes awaken in the face of a good movie, and whatever ya gotta say is useless unless you can use these tools to reach right into people

"the skilled binder uses no strings or knots, while to unloose what he has bound would be impossible." Lao Tzu

"The logic of divide and rule is still valid today." Capleton

DomePoem Poets; Vibe Nation; One ppl under the spoken word

.....

"Who need fossil fuel when the sun ain't goin' nowhere"
- Amiri Baraka

http://www.okayplayer.com/guidelines

BUY MY BOOK- only $6! Inbox me for details

  

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utamaroho

Thu Sep-06-01 11:35 AM

  
81. "can?!?!?!?!"
In response to Reply # 79


          

don't talk to me anymore today...for real. you're gross!

____________________________________________________________________________
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Mastering others is strength, mastering yourself is true power.

The word for today is: SELF-DISCIPLINE.

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82. "oh lord please"
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show me a place where i can use my machete to open a coconut in an urban environment and i'll happily recyle those 40 cent cans. in the meantime, get over it.

ingriedients: young coconut juice, young coconut juice pulp, water

also show me a place where i cn buy young coconuts


==**peace**==

"baby,
I'd draw yuh bath
like Picasso..

pick you,
like fruit
off yuh family tree. &
eatcha' honeydew ass,
wet"

-Giovanni

i believe in education and empowerment through art. i believe that movements happen when ideas are set to music. bodies and people come together through dance and movement, eyes awaken in the face of a good movie, and whatever ya gotta say is useless unless you can use these tools to reach right into people

"the skilled binder uses no strings or knots, while to unloose what he has bound would be impossible." Lao Tzu

"The logic of divide and rule is still valid today." Capleton

DomePoem Poets; Vibe Nation; One ppl under the spoken word

.....

"Who need fossil fuel when the sun ain't goin' nowhere"
- Amiri Baraka

http://www.okayplayer.com/guidelines

BUY MY BOOK- only $6! Inbox me for details

  

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utamaroho

Thu Sep-06-01 11:44 AM

  
83. "farmer's market..."
In response to Reply # 82


          

more juice, plus, it's natural!

use an ax from walmart...they are legal, and do the job...(i asked a police officer when i got mine) they cannot stop me from bringing it into workl either...

____________________________________________________________________________
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Mastering others is strength, mastering yourself is true power.

The word for today is: SELF-DISCIPLINE.

(((((PEACE)))))

  

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84. "i've never"
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seen onna those suckers at a farmers market

and, for example, i was at 3 on tuesday alone

even the big market in b-more duzn't have em, that i know of....

are machete's legal? i got mine at a hardware store in kingston and cdn't conceal it if i tried.... plus i know how to use it much better than an axe......


==**peace**==

"baby,
I'd draw yuh bath
like Picasso..

pick you,
like fruit
off yuh family tree. &
eatcha' honeydew ass,
wet"

-Giovanni

i believe in education and empowerment through art. i believe that movements happen when ideas are set to music. bodies and people come together through dance and movement, eyes awaken in the face of a good movie, and whatever ya gotta say is useless unless you can use these tools to reach right into people

"the skilled binder uses no strings or knots, while to unloose what he has bound would be impossible." Lao Tzu

"The logic of divide and rule is still valid today." Capleton

DomePoem Poets; Vibe Nation; One ppl under the spoken word

.....

"Who need fossil fuel when the sun ain't goin' nowhere"
- Amiri Baraka

http://www.okayplayer.com/guidelines

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utamaroho

Thu Sep-06-01 11:53 AM

  
85. "international farmer's market..."
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or better yet, an asian supermarket...i know i saw some thai cocnuts when i was up there...they're white and covered in plastic...

*oh yeah, above when i called you "gross" why didn't you come back and criticize me, jump on my back and cry? just a little survey of sorts...



____________________________________________________________________________
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Mastering others is strength, mastering yourself is true power.

The word for today is: SELF-DISCIPLINE.

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86. "maybe i didn't recognize it...."
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as for the gross thing:

mister organic raw vegan onion ring
(oooops, i just offended myself again)

u cn call me gross all u want, but i'm either aware of all my hypocrasies or looking to be made aware of them, so either

-yr right and i know it
-yr wrong and i know it
-yr right and i learned sumthin
-yr wrong and i learned sumthin

either way i'm not offended cuz the way i see it we're all treadin thru vines tryin to figure out where the damn path is

i'm just happy to know other ppl who're willing to second guess the floor under their toes, whether they're for real or not. gets me thinkin. keeps me growin.

anyway, i'm not blaming u for the deletion of everything. i donno if it seemed that way. but i want it out on the table and discussed if everything disappeared becuz of what i see as a personal animosity. otherwise so much has been lost with no gain.

and also this is not a survey so much as a question asked. u wanna do a survey i'll hook u up w some software to do it right. but *never* throw the word survey around around a stats person


==**peace**==

"baby,
I'd draw yuh bath
like Picasso..

pick you,
like fruit
off yuh family tree. &
eatcha' honeydew ass,
wet"

-Giovanni

i believe in education and empowerment through art. i believe that movements happen when ideas are set to music. bodies and people come together through dance and movement, eyes awaken in the face of a good movie, and whatever ya gotta say is useless unless you can use these tools to reach right into people

"the skilled binder uses no strings or knots, while to unloose what he has bound would be impossible." Lao Tzu

"The logic of divide and rule is still valid today." Capleton

DomePoem Poets; Vibe Nation; One ppl under the spoken word

.....

"Who need fossil fuel when the sun ain't goin' nowhere"
- Amiri Baraka

http://www.okayplayer.com/guidelines

BUY MY BOOK- only $6! Inbox me for details

  

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utamaroho

Thu Sep-06-01 12:07 PM

  
87. "thank you"
In response to Reply # 86


          

>>u cn call me gross all u want, but i'm either aware of all my hypocrasies or looking to be made aware of them, so either

-yr right and i know it
-yr wrong and i know it
-yr right and i learned sumthin
-yr wrong and i learned sumthin

either way i'm not offended cuz the way i see it we're all treadin thru vines tryin to figure out where the damn path is


and THAT'S why i love ya! smooches

  

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88. "stop that ((swatting))"
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==**peace**==

"baby,
I'd draw yuh bath
like Picasso..

pick you,
like fruit
off yuh family tree. &
eatcha' honeydew ass,
wet"

-Giovanni

i believe in education and empowerment through art. i believe that movements happen when ideas are set to music. bodies and people come together through dance and movement, eyes awaken in the face of a good movie, and whatever ya gotta say is useless unless you can use these tools to reach right into people

"the skilled binder uses no strings or knots, while to unloose what he has bound would be impossible." Lao Tzu

"The logic of divide and rule is still valid today." Capleton

DomePoem Poets; Vibe Nation; One ppl under the spoken word

.....

"Who need fossil fuel when the sun ain't goin' nowhere"
- Amiri Baraka

http://www.okayplayer.com/guidelines

BUY MY BOOK- only $6! Inbox me for details

  

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LexM
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96. "coconut is not my friend"
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X(

_________________________________________________________
"Complexity is a phrase some old idiot used to give validation to weak poetry." ~~ThaAnthology

Do not use (my soul)
Do not look at (my eyes)
Do not touch (my skin)
Do not walk close to
or near (my body)
Do not breath on (my neck)
or look at (my locks)
Do not place objects
of affection
close to
or near (my heart)
its broken
thanks
"out of order" (c) OKP madawaka

~~~~
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97. "where the hell is my angry face smiley??? dammit..."
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utamaroho

Thu Sep-06-01 01:49 PM

  
89. "DAY 4"
In response to Reply # 0


          

just water...

had bowel movement...it stank, which is unusual because usually its pretty odorless. i think smoke colon debris is coming out, or bile from the flax oil i'm ingesting.

going to take senna leaf (powerful laxative) tonight. perhaps a detox if i can find some money. feeling nromal, the three day faster's crisis is over, so it's pretty much smooth sailing from here.

stay strong. peace.

I have not slain men and women

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Mastering others is strength, mastering yourself is true power.

The word for today is: SELF-DISCIPLINE.

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92. "4th day"
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Hujambo

Completed my morning rituals and felt energized for the day. Until 3 pm that is. I hadn't had any juice since the night before. I felt kinda of weak but not like the previous day. I went to martial arts practice still but I did not complete the entire practice. We pretty much focused on stretching the entire class. Melenga made us do this one stretch for like 10-15 minutes. I could barely walk afterwards.

After practice I went to g-love's place to collect to fruit& vegetable donations. I shouldn't have but I juice watermelon and pears while I was there and drank which was around 11:30. Fruits are for the day not night. And to top it off I ended up staying there too long and got home at 1 AM ! That is a clear violation of my fast rules. Needless to say the rules are there to "protect" me.

you'll see why on the 5th day

PEace
Solarus

***Words of Wisdom***

"Every time you rise from your sleeping state, you have been reincarnated. Every time you recover from a bad experience, you have been reincarnated. Every time you have been given a new lease on life, you have been reincarnated. Every time you breath in and out, take in the fresh breath of life and feel the divine intelligence flowing in and around you, you have been reincarnated."- Mfundishi Bakari

On "love":

"I am in love everyday, whether I am with someone or not. Why? All love is based on a search for spirit. For me love is timeless, transcendent, peaceful, freeing, soul-based, unifying, and enhanced evolution. This is the basis of my activism."- Nettrice, the embodiment of Oshun

"Since we all make up the rules as we go along, love can mean many different things to many different people. But, for me love is a total commitment to understanding that is not limited to just people but is open to the totality of life. As long as we approach love from a fear based mentality and perceive it through veils of guardedness and anxiety, it will always be restricted by our fears."- Mfundishi Bakari

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utamaroho

Fri Sep-07-01 12:08 PM

  
105. "DAY 5"
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water...flax seed oil...that is all.

feeling normal. ready to do more physical activities during the weekend. plan to take senna today (didn't yesterday) and push out remaining debris out of colon...

i have not stolen food (

this one is funny considering the fasting and all )

peace

  

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106. "5th Day"
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Hujambo

Got up at 5 AM and was too tired to do my ritual since I had went to bed at 1 AM.

I had a little orange juice and water along with the Pipe Cleaner and green drink. I was tired today mainly because of no sleep.

I need my sleep.

I broke a cardinal rule of the fast and you see what happened...

I have to get my ish together.

PEace
Solarus

***Words of Wisdom***

"Every time you rise from your sleeping state, you have been reincarnated. Every time you recover from a bad experience, you have been reincarnated. Every time you have been given a new lease on life, you have been reincarnated. Every time you breath in and out, take in the fresh breath of life and feel the divine intelligence flowing in and around you, you have been reincarnated."- Mfundishi Bakari

On "love":

"I am in love everyday, whether I am with someone or not. Why? All love is based on a search for spirit. For me love is timeless, transcendent, peaceful, freeing, soul-based, unifying, and enhanced evolution. This is the basis of my activism."- Nettrice, the embodiment of Oshun

"Since we all make up the rules as we go along, love can mean many different things to many different people. But, for me love is a total commitment to understanding that is not limited to just people but is open to the totality of life. As long as we approach love from a fear based mentality and perceive it through veils of guardedness and anxiety, it will always be restricted by our fears."- Mfundishi Bakari

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107. "well"
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i feel like i shd say sumthin

beyond "i gotta take a nap" and "i got to work late" and "all the fruits and veggies in the world" and "well that's what u get for hangin out on weeknights" etc

but, bein at a loss, i'll just say i wish u a speedy recovery and a happy pipecleaning


==**peace**==

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like Picasso..

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off yuh family tree. &
eatcha' honeydew ass,
wet"

-Giovanni

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Solarus
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108. "that pipe cleaner"
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ain't no joke. it had EVERYTHING comming out of me . It took all day though. I had to go around 10:00 PM but was feeling it all day. Every now and them I thought I had to use the bathroom but it would go away. And then around 10:00 it came and I KNEW that was it.

I think because I have very little in my system it just sits in my colon absorbing into all the matter lingering inside (nice visual huh? ). Then that matter becomes loose enough continues its descent down especially with the water going into my colon.

However I think I should use some psyllium in the next couple of weeks to add some fibrous cleaning material.

PEace
Solarus

***Words of Wisdom***

"Every time you rise from your sleeping state, you have been reincarnated. Every time you recover from a bad experience, you have been reincarnated. Every time you have been given a new lease on life, you have been reincarnated. Every time you breath in and out, take in the fresh breath of life and feel the divine intelligence flowing in and around you, you have been reincarnated."- Mfundishi Bakari

On "love":

"I am in love everyday, whether I am with someone or not. Why? All love is based on a search for spirit. For me love is timeless, transcendent, peaceful, freeing, soul-based, unifying, and enhanced evolution. This is the basis of my activism."- Nettrice, the embodiment of Oshun

"Since we all make up the rules as we go along, love can mean many different things to many different people. But, for me love is a total commitment to understanding that is not limited to just people but is open to the totality of life. As long as we approach love from a fear based mentality and perceive it through veils of guardedness and anxiety, it will always be restricted by our fears."- Mfundishi Bakari

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109. "6th Day"
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Hujambo

I only had water today and Greens+(thanks g-love!) and I feel GREAT! I gott up this morning and did my rituals. I felt a little tired but then I had Greens+. By the time I went to martial aarts practice I had enrgy! In fact today was a particularly hard workout since we were doing endurance drills (punching/kicking a dummy and constantly moving around it). It was basically like sparring which is very draining. I got through still feeling good. However when I got home I got knocked out for like 2 hrs. But I feel good now and not fatigued.

Tonight I probably am going to juice some carrots, tomatoes and cucumber (thanks to g-love again!). I think I might add some soy sauce, cayenne pepper, ginger and cumin so it can be like a soup or something. I love live soups on a fast!

I still got some fermented pineapple and ginger that I need to juice. I gonna get shyt-faced tonight!!!!

PEace
Solarus

***Words of Wisdom***

"Every time you rise from your sleeping state, you have been reincarnated. Every time you recover from a bad experience, you have been reincarnated. Every time you have been given a new lease on life, you have been reincarnated. Every time you breath in and out, take in the fresh breath of life and feel the divine intelligence flowing in and around you, you have been reincarnated."- Mfundishi Bakari

On "love":

"I am in love everyday, whether I am with someone or not. Why? All love is based on a search for spirit. For me love is timeless, transcendent, peaceful, freeing, soul-based, unifying, and enhanced evolution. This is the basis of my activism."- Nettrice, the embodiment of Oshun

"Since we all make up the rules as we go along, love can mean many different things to many different people. But, for me love is a total commitment to understanding that is not limited to just people but is open to the totality of life. As long as we approach love from a fear based mentality and perceive it through veils of guardedness and anxiety, it will always be restricted by our fears."- Mfundishi Bakari

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110. "good luck to all of you"
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Hope you make it through

~sig~
When ppl show you who they are- BELIEVE them. ~Maya Angelou

  

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utamaroho

Sun Sep-09-01 05:55 AM

  
111. "DAY 6"
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just water...feeling fine....

worked out today, pull-ups, push-ups...

feeling normal...

(((((peace)))))

i have not swindled offerings

  

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113. "fasting over!"
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as of yesterday around 10am. i was supposed to go all day yesterday, but i had enough.

thoughts:

the fast wasn't hard because i had plenty of rice milk and juice to drink whenever i started to feel hungry or weak. i don't know how people do this with just water, and i am not eager to find out. for me the hardest part was that at certain times of the day i knew i usually ate. i had to use some discipline to not do what i was used to doing at say, lunch.

i am now gonna be more aware of how much eat, and whether i am eating because i'm hungry or because i have conditioned my body to just eat at certain times

i want a juicer.

i think i will do this to usher in each season.

for anyone who plans to join this fast my suggestion is to not tell anyone you're fasting unless you know you are gonna have their suport and to pick up a book on fasting and the health benefits.

**********THE SIG**********

The point is for us to sit down and make some kind of agreement on some basic things and understand that what is going to be freedom to me, is not necessarily going to be freedom for you. Self-Determination must be a very important part of what We're talking about when We talk about political organization -- political activity -- that has to be underlined because everybody doesn't have the same dream. So, there has to be room for everybody to attempt to move toward that dream, as long as that dream does not include oppressing other people; exploiting other people.
-Assata Shakur

I long for the day when I can go out, eat a raw food breakfast, snack on natural fruit and vegetables, read a book, study and practice a martial art, eat dinner, cultivate my garden, play with my seeds, and rest......
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utamaroho

Mon Sep-10-01 03:48 AM

  
114. "yaaayyyyyy!!!!!!"
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:) GREAT JOB!!!

i remeber the whole "lunch syndrome" too...the smells coming from the breakroom really started getting to me.

glad you are paying more attention to "why" you eat... i think we all should look into that in order to differentiate when we need to eat vs. when we WANT to eat...

i'm done with the ONLY water period...time for the fruit juices now...

you want a juicer huh? hmmmm....i'll see what i can work out...

congrats...for real!

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Mastering others is strength, mastering yourself is true power.

The word for today is: SELF-DISCIPLINE.

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115. "RE: fasting over!"
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I haven't read all of the previous posts so I don't know if anyone has already mentioned this particular fasting method. Has anyone ever tried the lemonade/limeade fast. It's amazing. 10 days of drinking strictly water and 8-10 glasses of a surprising good concoction of limes, grade B maple syrup, cayenne pepper and spring water.

There's a book called the Master Cleanser that explains the fast in great detail but each ingredient provides you with the necessary nutrients to ward off hunger. In addition, it is important to take laxative teas and do some salt water cleanses in order to achieve the best results.

I did it for the whole ten days but I know people who have done it for several weeks. I hardly ever felt hungry throughout the duration of the fast. It's definitely something I would do again.

I tend to agree with whoever said that they fast for 2 to 3 days a month. It's important to incorporate it into our daily lives. Doing a fast for ten days take lots of planning and it's honestly difficult to work and sustain the daily rountine while trying to do a thorough physical and spiritual cleanse.

That's my story.
Peace

  

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utamaroho

Mon Sep-10-01 04:03 AM

  
116. "master cleanser is cool..."
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how did you feel...many bowel movements? lose any weight?

this is a 42 day fast for a couple of us...

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Mastering others is strength, mastering yourself is true power.

The word for today is: SELF-DISCIPLINE.

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117. "RE: master cleanser is cool..."
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Well, the book states that you should take a laxative tea every night and drink a quart of uniodized sea salt and water every morning...this mix produces some of the most intense toxic flushing you will ever experience. WOW!!!! The tea losens everything and the salt water literally pushes it all out within two hours of intake.

Personally, I don't think it's wise to do it everyday because after the first 5-6 of days (depending on the individuals diet and the type of liquids you're taking in during the fast) there's really nothing left to flush out....you can start stripping away at the vital stuff if you're not careful. I did the teas and salt water for the first three days and then I did again for two days towards the end of my fast.

I hope this helps.

Peace

  

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utamaroho

Mon Sep-10-01 04:42 AM

  
118. "i'll be trying the salt water think tomorrow mornig after my enema..."
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thanks...

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119. "P.S."
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Yes, I lost about five to six pounds. People who are overweight will tend to lose more with this fast. It wasn't a desired result for me but I couldn't help it. The fast itself made me feel good. I had lots of energy and more concentration than usual. My only problem was dealing with some negative energy from people around me who didn't understand why I was doing it....you know people trying to scare you and tell you that you're hurting your body when they don't know that fasting is a natural and necessary process which can be observed in various cultures throughout the world....but I digress.

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120. "The solarICE!"
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my own "tweeked" version.

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utamaroho

Mon Sep-10-01 05:33 AM

  
121. "DAY 7"
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drank water fro first half of the day...
then fruit juices (pear/apple/raspberry)

was having a so-so day, went to country (Macon, GA) to get fresh air. ATLANTA is dirty as hell, the pollution can be seen coming over I-75.

interesting moments: went to the mall there and a woman in this afrikan store complimented my crown while i was bent over looking at a bracelet in the display case. i told her i made it and she offered to work out a barter ( i love afrikans! ). so i go to my car, pull out about 8 crowns that i never intended on wearing and gave them to her...IN EXCHANGE, she gave me this BEAUTIFUL bracelet from ghana that she'd just gotten (she had just landed from a trip to ghana). this thing is AWESOME, i'd always been looking for a bracelet like this one, i used to think i'd have to have one made for me. and gett this, the design on it means "fire weilder"!!!!! (my mind exploded in a gleeful, yiiiiiippppeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!)

anyways...she also gave me a bob marley shirt too...and wants me to make more for her.

later on: i bought an enema kit and used it. inseting the speculum was a little weird on the first bagfull, but kinda cool the second time...

i'm definitly gonna start adding wheatgrass to the enema bag..and apple cider vinegar...would have done one this morning, but was running late...

soul veggie closed early, so luckily ( i mean UNFORTUNATELY ) i couldn't partake of the fiery sword...boo hoo. i thnk the enemas made up for it.

anybody else have any enema experience?
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Mastering others is strength, mastering yourself is true power.

The word for today is: SELF-DISCIPLINE.

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122. "7th Day"
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Hujambo

(WARNING!- Graphic discussion on defecation is contained here.)

Water for the day and then some OJ. I also made my solarICE but that is for tomorrow. I wielded the Fiery Sword with success!! Although I should say there was considerably less garlic in it than I would have wished. Juiceman Jr sucks in juicing garlic.

I took my Pipe Cleaner. That stuff is TIGHT (not in taste though)! I took it in after an 1 hr everything just came out! Granted it was mostly water but also some little brown and green flecks that seemed hard (I could tell as it came out). Also some sticky like substance came out. It was like mucus or something.

I tried to do the enema but failed. Couldn't get the tube up my arse. And to stop it all off part of the enema bottle fell off and went down the shower drain. Thus enemas have been cancelled from my fast for now. I want to substitute it with one or two colonics but it depends on the price but when I can afford I probably just get another enema joint. I'll see.

PEace
Solarus

***Words of Wisdom***

"Every time you rise from your sleeping state, you have been reincarnated. Every time you recover from a bad experience, you have been reincarnated. Every time you have been given a new lease on life, you have been reincarnated. Every time you breath in and out, take in the fresh breath of life and feel the divine intelligence flowing in and around you, you have been reincarnated."- Mfundishi Bakari

On "love":

"I am in love everyday, whether I am with someone or not. Why? All love is based on a search for spirit. For me love is timeless, transcendent, peaceful, freeing, soul-based, unifying, and enhanced evolution. This is the basis of my activism."- Nettrice, the embodiment of Oshun

"Since we all make up the rules as we go along, love can mean many different things to many different people. But, for me love is a total commitment to understanding that is not limited to just people but is open to the totality of life. As long as we approach love from a fear based mentality and perceive it through veils of guardedness and anxiety, it will always be restricted by our fears."- Mfundishi Bakari

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"the real pyramids were built with such precision that you can't slide a piece of paper between two 4,000 lb stones, and have shafts perfectly aligned so that you can see a tiny aperture through dozens of these mammoth blocks

  

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utamaroho

Mon Sep-10-01 06:10 AM

  
123. "CVS or Eckerd's"
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reusable enema/douche kits for $10...

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Knowing others is intelligence, knowing yourself is true wisdom.

Mastering others is strength, mastering yourself is true power.

The word for today is: SELF-DISCIPLINE.

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utamaroho

Mon Sep-10-01 10:40 AM

  
124. "ENEMAS"
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last night i took one.

kinda weird feeling when inserting, but got used to it...only thing is, after the water shooting out of my rectum, i think the pressure it caused brought on the large hemmoroids i saw.

hemmoroids are inflamed viens around the rectum...basically when there is too much pressure there, they may swell up into pea sized looking pimpples around the rim of your asshole...anyways, about 15 minutes later they were gone...

TODAY...i'm typing along and my stomach starts rumblimg and i jet to the bathroom and out gushes all sorts of shit...all i've had was orange juice and water.

i wonder if air got in there or what cuz it was a cycle of watery gushes, air and fecal lke matter, not onoe continuous stream but intermittent gushes...weird shit. looked in mirror (handicap stall and all) and there were thehemoroids again...

i think i have a sensitive rectum or this enema started something i might not be ready for...


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"why does it have to be about "them". why can't it be about our own. so are you suggesting that the HBCUs out there as a curriculum that is geared to that of propogating European culture and power? c'mon now." -JustLisa


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utamaroho

Mon Sep-10-01 12:08 PM

  
125. "DAY 8"
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water, orange juice, about to go get coconuts...
woke up with energy, (i think because of enema)
did dry skin brushing with loofah before shower...

will take enema before bed...feeling great.



i have not uttered lies...

____________________________________________________________________________

"why does it have to be about "them". why can't it be about our own. so are you suggesting that the HBCUs out there as a curriculum that is geared to that of propogating European culture and power? c'mon now." -JustLisa


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utamaroho

Tue Sep-11-01 11:50 AM

  
126. "DAY 9"
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water, coconut juice, fruit juice, orange juice...

no enema this morning, feeling a litte bad...

drank salt water as recommended above...feel like shit...throat burning and dry. need sleep.

LAST NIGHT: met my martial arts instructor, Baba Vita who is my inspiration for fasting...he is 50+ years old and is healthier than 99% of the men i see my age...and more muscular and flexible too...check this: he fasted for 442 days in 1998!!! for real. on fruit and veggie juices and water...he was in jamaica the whole time and had access to fresh young coconuts, lucky...

anyways, he trained for fasts just like i am...40 days... 100 days and so on. Solarus, he studied under Nganga since way early on before Mfundishi Bakari got there...but said that Mfundishi Bakari is definitely THE MAN. after taking lessons from Baba Vita, i plan to petition Mfundishi Bakari to move here since Vita is going to afrika in January, and i might get to tour with him and his students FOR FREE!!! once in a lifetime opportuninty...

anyways, training starts wednesday. time to get bout it! peace

I have not carried away food.

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"Don't start shit with me. And don't think personalizing it would change how I feel. Feeling is always made richer though knowledge. Knowledge ensures that the truest depth of feeling is reached. And buddy, don't assume you know mine." -Cued

"why does it have to be about "them". why can't it be about our own. so are you suggesting that the HBCUs out there as a curriculum that is geared to that of propogating European culture and power? c'mon now." -JustLisa


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132. "Coc'nat"
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HTP
"he fasted for 442 days in 1998!!"
now i don't remember them telling me they were going to add 77 days to 1998.

seriously tho' on that coconut being the perfect food (and i hate coconut water) BUT it really is. u can drink the water, eat the meat.. oops that's a bad word around here, the jelly. if u let the jelly get hard, u can use it and make milk which is a must for rice and peas (is there a raw version of this?), use can use the outside and shine your floors, u can use the inside and make a container, of course u can make coconut oil which is good for cooking, hair (if you're a Trini) and body. it really is pretty amazing (or maybe we r).

**and G_Love if there was anything in that can that was crunchy it wasn't young.**

i saw some pose-up "young coconut juice w/ young jelly in a bottle here. "jelly" was as tough as rock, they just bought some diced coconut and threw it in there. i don't know who they think they were gving that to.

HTPU

************
Our limitations are a temporary point
in our growth, as opposed to a finite
and essential quality of our spirit.
-Ra Un Nefer Amen (paraphrased)

Kemetian
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"Pour libation for your father
and mother who rest in the
valley of the dead. God will
witness your action and
accept it. Do not forget to
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utamaroho

Wed Sep-12-01 03:07 AM

  
128. "coconut water, the perfect food..."
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i thnk i can live off this stuff. about to mix spirulina right in with the water...hope it makes for a good drink. lost about 5 lbs. already.

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"Don't start shit with me. And don't think personalizing it would change how I feel. Feeling is always made richer though knowledge. Knowledge ensures that the truest depth of feeling is reached. And buddy, don't assume you know mine." -Cued

"why does it have to be about "them". why can't it be about our own. so are you suggesting that the HBCUs out there as a curriculum that is geared to that of propogating European culture and power? c'mon now." -JustLisa


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130. "day -3"
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3 days until I start my fast, my today I began preparing by only eating raw fruits/veggies.. and nuts: almonds, walnuts, grapes, blueberries, an apple, 2 bananas, dehydrated tomato slices. (I noticed a lot of you are having rice/soy milk? is that allowed?)

I've been a little light headed-- only really got hungry around 2, had an odwalla superfood green juice and it went away. I feel really flaky subsisting on mainly fruit.

On a side note, I've been reading Fit For Life and have only had juice and/or fruit before noon for the past week, and have lost 5 pounds.

I think my juicer (the omega 8001) arrives tommorrow.

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Fri Sep-14-01 03:25 AM

  
133. "DAYS 9 & 10"
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water, coconut water, and more water...

had some spirulina as well. felling fine, more phleghm is coming out. only thing i need to do more, is get more sleep. stayed up watching the movie "BLOW" starring Jonny Depp...scary movie. Overall, feeling good, stomach going down, energy level straight.

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135. "damn good movie"
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well at least i liked it

i need to get sum phlegm out

yesterday i ate a cantalope that tasted like it was raised in marge's sisters' living room


==**peace**==

"baby,
I'd draw yuh bath
like Picasso..

pick you,
like fruit
off yuh family tree. &
eatcha' honeydew ass,
wet"

-Giovanni


"the skilled binder uses no strings or knots, while to unloose what he has bound would be impossible." Lao Tzu

"The logic of divide and rule is still valid today." Capleton

"if i'm smart enough to sneak around and learn to fly a plane to get me and all my friends enough false i.d. to board us airplanes to get me and all my friends through metal detectors and past security guards while hiding weapons to make an entire plane load of people afraid of my boxcutter i doubt i would be stupid enough to leave all the evidence behind in a rental car
unless i wanted you to think i was something that i'm not" (c) 2ndsurvivor

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utamaroho

Fri Sep-14-01 03:38 AM

  
134. "DAY 12"
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GEATEST DAY OF FAST!!! So far, anyways...

woke up, drank water, pineapple/lemon/apple...had a citrus celebration drink...oranges/grapefruit/pineapple/lemon...more water...

went to first day of kupigana ngume training:

first stance, "embracing the universe" while sitting in horse stance. i promise you, if you never thought you could get drenched in your own sweat while standing motionless, you CAN, and need to try this exercise! we held it for like 10 to 20 minutes and my legs started to vibrat all over. i didn't think i could stand still! this was an energy building exercise that should be done every morning of your life, says Baba Vita. i can see why. i felt way more energized after doing that excercise than from doing sets of squats...

we then went through two hours of tai chi, after opening the gates...and then ended by doing flips...tai chi and qui gong (breathing exercises) seriously develope internal energy, focus , and power. you can't cheat, you'd only be cheating yourself...

anyways...afterwards, i fellowshipped with some students and went home. we have students from so many disciplines who are teachers themselves, that there are like 4 classes going on in one.

did an "apple cidedr vinegar" enema...really got some nasty crap out of my colon...plan to do one every night and morning from now on...

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dispatriot
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136. "day -2"
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Though it feels like I've already started!

Yesterday was pretty much the same, an apple, some grapes/blueberries, greens, nuts, and two odwallas.

DAMN did I feel tired. And not from lack of sleep, but I felt though I'd been up since 2am, I don't know what my body was deficient in but I needed to NAP.

I got home and was about to crash out but I realized my juicer had arrived, hurrah! So my husband and I promptly ignored the instructions and started throwing everything we could find into it: greens, celery, carrots, bananas, grapes, potatoes. Wow, it was gross. My husband couldn't stand it, but I drank that ish up, and you know what? I felt wide awake after that.

I've got to start reading up, figure out which vegetable/vitamin I ate that woke my ass up.

Also! I bought a coconut and drank the milk outta it.. damn, that ish was NASTY. What were you guys talkin' about it being good??!?

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utamaroho

Fri Sep-14-01 05:31 AM

  
137. "wa it a green coconut? or thai?"
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potatoes? you nasty!


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138. "RE: wa it a green coconut? or thai?"
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I dunno, it was one of those look like they fell off the tree ish. All brown and hairy.

I read in some juice recipe book "power" recipes that had potatoes in them.. the most prominent thing about them is that they are _loaded_ with carbs. something like 50g per potato. (I had about a quarter slice..)


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utamaroho

Fri Sep-14-01 08:49 AM

  
139. "never drink the brown ones....EVER! GROOOOOOSSSSS"
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goto the farmer's market and either get a green one...they're big and require a machete to open and a straw to drink it...

...or...if you want the sweet sensation of perfect bliss...get a young Thai coconut...they are white smaller...lots of water. THE BEST...

the brown ones are a waste of time.


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140. "NOW you tell me"
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blech, ewww.


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Fri Sep-14-01 11:47 AM

  
141. "DAY 13"
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water...cocnut water...passion fruit juice...

*whispering* vita malt

feel fine, sore from training...doing applpe cider vinegar enema tonight...really gonna reflect on today's confession.

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142. "correction"
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at least not until u made fun of my sense of humor

fr chrissake, man (sniff...sniff) u know i (sniff...sniff..ohlord) get upset abt these things easily (sniff)



==**peace**==

"baby,
I'd draw yuh bath
like Picasso..

pick you,
like fruit
off yuh family tree. &
eatcha' honeydew ass,
wet"

-Giovanni


"the skilled binder uses no strings or knots, while to unloose what he has bound would be impossible." Lao Tzu

"The logic of divide and rule is still valid today." Capleton

"if i'm smart enough to sneak around and learn to fly a plane to get me and all my friends enough false i.d. to board us airplanes to get me and all my friends through metal detectors and past security guards while hiding weapons to make an entire plane load of people afraid of my boxcutter i doubt i would be stupid enough to leave all the evidence behind in a rental car
unless i wanted you to think i was something that i'm not" (c) 2ndsurvivor

DomePoem Poets; Vibe Nation; One ppl under the spoken word

useful links:
news: http://www.blackelectorate.com/links.asp
veg: http://www.vrg.org

.....

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143. "day -1"
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Ate more nuts, grapes, and a whole lotta asparagus. Realized I'd been drinking no water and started loading up, and abated most of my hunger-- after work went by the health food store because I was too hungry to juice, and grabbed some dehydrated vegetables, flaxseed oil, and a juice recipe book. Stayed out a bit late at Fais Do Do to check out Medusa and Feline Science and came home ravenous, ate more dehydrated veggies/fruits.

Felt pretty good all day, not tired at all.

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144. "Day 1"
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Day of truth. Me, my boy and a friend got armloads of produce from the local ghetto-mart (produce for miles for only $10) and circled around the juicer as if in prayer. Mangoes, pears and bananas, apples and apricots. All swirling around in fruit harmony while we watched in anticipation-- it was already 1pm and none of us had eaten. We gazed hungrily as juiced dripped forth from the mouth of our Omega monster. Chopped up more fruit. Watched. Chopped. Watched. 30 minutes later we poured our amassed juice into 3 cups: 4 apples, 3 apricots, 1 mango, 3 bananas, 2 pears, liquified.

If filled only 2 cups.

Our eyebrows shot up quizzically and our stomachs rumbled. We divvied up the juice over the cups and drank up. I had some water, and got quite full.

My boy and my friend however, kept eyeing the machine, as if it might be hoarding a hamburger, or maybe some pizza. They felt gypped! All that time and effort and not even a whole cup of juice. They made jokes about McDonald's. I think maybe I won't have the support of these two boys after all.. we'll see...

Went to the Mumia Rally in Leimart Park, had an Odwalla...didn't stay too long cause I had to pee like a mutha. (It was only 5 min from my house.) Went home, went to the bathroom, and then immediately became ravenous. I ran downstairs and took about 10 minutes and made 3+ cups of juice with tomatoes and carrots and a potato and a small section of a clove of garlic. Couldn't finish even a cup. I think maybe it was the garlic-- I think I have low blood pressure and garlic is supposed to lower your blood pressure even more, and I got REAL sleepy. I had some banana puree (does banana NOT juice??) and was about to pass out. I've been sitting here about 15 minutes and feel somewhat better. I remember my dad used to take garlic pills on the regular until he started fainting.. mental note to self: no more garlic juice.

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145. "Day 2"
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Side note: last night was EVIL. I think it was the garlic, but I felt like throwing up. I couldn't even bring myself to drink water. Ugh. I craved bread, thinking it would slow my stomach down enough to feel better...Went to sleep early.

This morning-- had Odwalla green juice and went to pottery class (yum). Then went to Wild Oats health food market and was IMPRESSED. An ACTUAL supermarket with a decent organic produce section-- loaded up on ish! Made mango-ginger-papaya-brocolli-yam juice and nursed that most of the day, then made some more mango-papaya-strawberry juice for dinner. Feel really good today, lots of energy.

NEED TO START EXERCISING. Still working on that.

Have lost 8 pounds since last Friday. (About a pound a day, so far.. weight is at 152 now.)

OH! Can anyone recommend a good juice fasting book?

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utamaroho

Mon Sep-17-01 02:53 AM

  
146. "WAY TO GO!"
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about the small amounts of juice...get about 5 large red delicious ORGANIC apples and one lemon...they juice well..and have high water content so as to make it seem like they are worth the effort...

i have not used my juicer yet...been going to juice bars (yes, i'm a baller! ) but what i can tell you is that strawberries,pineapples,oranges, bananas, and such textured fruit do not really yield "juice" more like a frothy smoothy like liquid...thus seemingly less. although "starwberry/pineapple" is great! try it.

excercise is key, get some strething and light aerobic...walking in the sun once a day is minimum for me...

days 1-3 are the hardest, after that you can go indefinitely, no problems whatsoever. the third day is the test...

buy apples, carrots, celery (good for fatigue, like a juice gatorade) ginger, pears, lemons, lemons, lemons! juiced whole!

the juiceman's book is good for fasting...he basically just gives a whole bunch of recipes. what you might want to do is get a chart of all vitamins and minerals like i did, one with the fruits and veggies where you can get the respective nutrients. Then pick one item from the list of foods that you can get the vitamin from and then highlight it...do this for all vitamins and minerals until you have a comprehensive list...anything that appears twice, use it for both requirements...i.e. vitamin a in carrots and so is vitamin c, thus you juice a carrot to provide for both sources...ultimately you will wind it down to a few items the you NEED to juice a day and consume just that...

also, for the tiredness...get some "jamaican roots" drink if you can handle it it's strong! but powerful...maybe a natural multi-vitamin too...

keep on, for one more day!


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162. "veggie dreams"
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Thank _you_ for _your_ support. *hug*

Yield has gotten better the more I do it... dunno why, guess we picked the wrong stuff first time around. I have been using apples, also got a huge bottle of organic apple juice to mix with in case I got to lazy to juice for a whole thermos/on the go.


Haven't tried lemons, tho, will pick some up this week.

Where would I acquire a chart like this..? Sounds like a plan. Most of the reason I wanted a _juice fast_ book in particular was to make sure I got all the vitamins I needed and didn't get deficient in anything.. I hate/can't take pill vitamins, so I got to get it in my juice.


what's jamaican roots and where do i get it?


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utamaroho

Tue Sep-18-01 03:19 AM

  
164. "jamaican roots drink is a strong drink made from several root concoction..."
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used for men, to "STAY UP" but also great for a jolt of energy when stamina and endurance are needed. tastes bitter and has kick, but good. comes in small glass bottles at most caribbean restaraunts.

about the chart. they usually have them at health food stores...they are colorful and laminated.


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Mon Sep-17-01 03:21 AM

  
147. "DAY 14 & 15, the weekend..."
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saturday...

water, pineapple/apple/lemon...passion fruit drink...detox (grapefruit/orange/lemon/maple syrup)...

felt pretty good.

sunday...

martial arts class in morning...

ginger root juice, water, pineapple/apple/lemon.
did the "pipe cleaner" and still haven't went to bathroom, and i'm here at work now, so i'm scared. stomach feeling weird. i can feel it coursing through my gut. i hate you solarus, that shit was so hard to get down the pipe...*mental note, NEVER drink castor oil again! the shit is nasty!* had jamaican roots drink for a burst of energy...

feeling fine, althogh i spent a lot of time w/ a friend who works at a raw restaraunt, and all my vegetarian peoples invited me to a convo session w/ them to one of my favorite restaraunts...the sense of smell could retire for the next 30 days if i had my way the smell of the jerk "un"-chicken was almost too much.

paz.

i have not felt sorrow without reason.

i have not assaulted anyone.


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148. "Still Fasting"
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Akwaaba

I'm still in the game although the past 7-day period was the lowest point of my fast. I didn't do my exercises as scheduled nor did I wake up early, etc. I even stopped drinking water as regularly. On the plus side I NEVER felt fatigued even though I was drinking primarily water and exercised (on ocassion). ALthough "things" happened last week that "brought" my spirits down. But let me say one thing: I can take relief through the fact that my landlord is out of the country and probably won't be able to get back in for another few weeks. I wrote a bad check to pay rent and it won't be cased until he gets back .

Oh yeah have I said DC sucks lately? Well it does...and so does Howard (as of this coming friday they will owe me THREE paychecks, let's see if they pay me this time).

PEace
solarICE

Still representin' the RED, BLACK & GREEN since 1978!
EFF RED, WHITE, & BLUE*!

Ain't a damn thing changed...

*That includes the Panamanian "dummy government setup by you know who" flag.


***Something to think about***

"if the god of these religions (judaism/christianity/islam) is not above using terrorist tactics to make people believe in Him (and what's the big deal if people do Not believe in Him? God is a egomaniac) then why wouldnt the hardcore followers of these faiths have a tendency to terrorism as well?"- yuckwheat

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utamaroho

Mon Sep-17-01 03:52 AM

  
149. "water fasting..."
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is cool...surprised me how long i could go on just water.

in this book, it says that three days is like the minimum for a water fast. on day three, the body starts feeding off fat reserves and you begin to free the toxins stored inside them...

baba vita does a water fast for three days then eats three days, mainly watermelon...


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150. "damn..."
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>But let me say
>one thing: I can take
>relief through the fact that
>my landlord is out of
>the country and probably won't
>be able to get back
>in for another few weeks.
> I wrote a bad
>check to pay rent and
>it won't be cased until
>he gets back .

*giggle*...sounds like some shit from the "good times" theme

>
>Oh yeah have I said DC
>sucks lately? Well it
>does...and so does Howard (as
>of this coming friday they
>will owe me THREE paychecks,
>let's see if they pay
>me this time).

bastards...let's go get 'em

_________________________________________________________
*moment of silence for all those lost & those yet to be found*

"if i'm smart enough
to sneak around and learn to fly a plane
to get me and all my friends enough false i.d. to board us airplanes
to get me and all my friends through metal detectors and past security guards while hiding weapons
to make an entire plane load of people afraid of my boxcutter
i doubt i would be stupid enough
to leave all the evidence behind in a rental car
unless
i wanted you to think i was something that i'm not" (c) okp 2ndsurvivor

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utamaroho

Mon Sep-17-01 06:04 AM

  
156. "first craving..."
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finally hit my first real craving...i really want to quit, not because i can't do the whole fast, but because there's so much good shit i could be eating...

this is what i get for hanging out w/ friends at veggie spots...it seems like all my favorite dishes are always served and "frsh" at that! my head hurts!

*opening coconut now*

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157. "RE: first craving..."
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

Hang in there. Food will always be there.


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Mon Sep-17-01 10:04 AM

  
161. "thanks for the support..."
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i appreciate it...

i'm outta here now, good night and sweet dreams tonight


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163. "I work at delights of the garden"
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so what you complainin about.
CRYBABY! :'(

PEace
solarICE

Still representin' the RED, BLACK & GREEN since 1978!
EFF RED, WHITE, & BLUE*!

Ain't a damn thing changed...

*That includes the Panamanian "dummy government setup by you know who" flag.


***Something to think about***

"if the god of these religions (judaism/christianity/islam) is not above using terrorist tactics to make people believe in Him (and what's the big deal if people do Not believe in Him? God is a egomaniac) then why wouldnt the hardcore followers of these faiths have a tendency to terrorism as well?"- yuckwheat

***PEace to those who made the transition...***

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Tue Sep-18-01 03:30 AM

  
165. "delights is gross, and so are you..."
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...if you think that "80%" raw food is tight! they have nothing on the cats in Atlanta, also known as RAW CENTRAL. even Princess at Healthful Essence is going raw and it's reflecting in her menu...a raw jamaican! mfundishi has no excuse "everlasting life" is tight as hell...and "iternal" is always on point...

...plus between hanging w/ duhirgwe at work all the time after class and watching them prepare the things i wanna eat, i think i have it hard.

thought continuing in my head each day: "why am i doing this?"

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166. "detoxification"
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of the spiritual and bodily kind, honey.

maybe you should sit and meditate on why you're doing it? That may help. And in 15 days, please tell me the same.

remembering something... hmm... "self-discipline."

*tickle*

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176. "***shaking head***"
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"even Princess at Healthful Essence is going raw and it's reflecting in her menu...a raw jamaican! "

Princess is Guyanese not jamaican. You silly americans think we're all the same. Wake up and smell the sorrel.

PEace
solarICE

Still representin' the RED, BLACK & GREEN since 1978!
EFF RED, WHITE, & BLUE*!

Ain't a damn thing changed...

*That includes the Panamanian "dummy government setup by you know who" flag.


***Something to think about***

"if the god of these religions (judaism/christianity/islam) is not above using terrorist tactics to make people believe in Him (and what's the big deal if people do Not believe in Him? God is a egomaniac) then why wouldnt the hardcore followers of these faiths have a tendency to terrorism as well?"- yuckwheat

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167. "Day 3"
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Sipped all day on some mango-celery-greens-papaya-apricot-carrot concoction in a thermos. Makes my teeth fuzzy. Felt fine all day.

Got home @ 5 and had some apple juice and got under my blankets cause I was cold.. and fell asleep around 7:30. Woke up this morning... now that can't be good....

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utamaroho

Tue Sep-18-01 05:38 AM

  
169. "i "wish" i could goto sleep that early"
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i'd be erupting with energy then...now, i barely have time when i get up to do my enema...let alone my morning training...

maybe you just needed some rest...


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Tue Sep-18-01 05:28 AM

  
168. "DAY 16"
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woke up and drank pineapple/apple/lemon...water...coconut...fax seed oil...

went to practice...because power went out on the block, practiced sparring in the dark, stretcehd, and did flips (finally did a one-arm pirouette style back flip, this weekend i should be able to do a two handed one! my teacher is awsome!)

g love, i got a machete, and this will be my weapon of chioce...i used it to open a coconut and it was easy. kinda sharp and although i know i could take my hand off if i slip, i don't worry about that...But i will be training with a small sword about that size in class, and then walk around the hood as the underclass superhero, "New York Ninja Afrika uddha Boy" !!! *cues afrikan drumming theme song*

coconuts are tight! and so are enemas. i did one and saw some pretty gross stuff come out...

'm noticing my abdomen shrinking, and as a result of all the ab work and srength training in class, have noticed (as have others) the growth and presence of muscles on my body that i've never even seen before...

also, for the first time i was able to sit with my legs spread and reach towards one foot and touch my head to my knee! this was the result of stretching my teach er had us doing where we'd stand against a wall and he'd lift our other leg as high as it could...mine went above my head (which is why i'm sore now and can barely walk)...the stretching is really cool. it really tones the body.

anyways, yesterday was great...felt good. enjoy being around fellow students at training...

peace

i am not deceitful




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178. "there is no joy"
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like the feel of a machete


==**peace**==

"baby,
I'd draw yuh bath
like Picasso..

pick you,
like fruit
off yuh family tree. &
eatcha' honeydew ass,
wet"

-Giovanni


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"The logic of divide and rule is still valid today." Capleton

"if i'm smart enough to sneak around and learn to fly a plane to get me and all my friends enough false i.d. to board us airplanes to get me and all my friends through metal detectors and past security guards while hiding weapons to make an entire plane load of people afraid of my boxcutter i doubt i would be stupid enough to leave all the evidence behind in a rental car
unless i wanted you to think i was something that i'm not" (c) 2ndsurvivor

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Wed Sep-19-01 06:31 AM

  
180. "for real..."
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i feel so dangerous...

i was gonna out it in the car instead of carrying it into the mall, but my friend was in a rush and i had to take it with me...EVERYBODY was backing up.(although i think it's the locks, full beard and boots that scared them, i looked like some MauMau revolutionary). but for real, i need someone to teach me how to use it, i'm scared of taking my fingers off...all for a coconut...(well maybe it'd be worth it).

mine is all black...it looks cool w/ my all black outfits...



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184. "it's all in the angle"
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that u slash with

try cutting grass as a first practice, if ya can

side swipes- down and across, down and across- start w/ yr dominant hand
]
i have a coconut to break and it's drivin me nuts trying to find a good place to break it

so u heard abt my knives then?


==**peace**==

"baby,
I'd draw yuh bath
like Picasso..

pick you,
like fruit
off yuh family tree. &
eatcha' honeydew ass,
wet"

-Giovanni


"the skilled binder uses no strings or knots, while to unloose what he has bound would be impossible." Lao Tzu

"The logic of divide and rule is still valid today." Capleton

"if i'm smart enough to sneak around and learn to fly a plane to get me and all my friends enough false i.d. to board us airplanes to get me and all my friends through metal detectors and past security guards while hiding weapons to make an entire plane load of people afraid of my boxcutter i doubt i would be stupid enough to leave all the evidence behind in a rental car
unless i wanted you to think i was something that i'm not" (c) 2ndsurvivor

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170. "RE: OkayFast Falll 2001"
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You all have inspired me. I will be starting my fast on Saturday cuz I have been having some negative people around me, who will be gone by saturday. So I have started pricing the things I need and getting my throat ready for the pipecleaner. My friends thinks I'm crazy for doing, but they thought I would be crazy for doing my sugar fast during Lent, no un=natural sugars for 40 days. First 3 dayz I felt like a crackhead coming down.

But ya'll keep up the good work. I am looking at different juicers. The Juiceman Jr. seems to be a good selection, you tell me.

Hang in there!!!


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utamaroho

Tue Sep-18-01 10:15 AM

  
174. "the juiceman jr...."
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is a good starter juicer...one by which you can guage the ones you might purchase later by...

my advise get some red delicious apples, lemons, and make a natural lemonade...

caroot juice is my veggie juice of choice...

...and pineapple/strawberry is what i'm pretty sure they drank on mt. olympus! that drink is perfect!

thanks for joining in


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Tue Sep-18-01 10:05 AM

  
171. "DAY 17"
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winding down the day...

had 2 coconuts...water...apple juice...enema this morning w/ a long string of crap coming out...contoured like the colon (definite toxic waste)

going to jumprope tonight (pretty sore from practice yesterday) and do enema...

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utamaroho

Tue Sep-18-01 10:08 AM

  
172. "oh yeah,"
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i have not stolen anyone's land.

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173. "RE: oh yeah,"
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I took the the famous castor oil and it did not do a damn thing!!!!!!!!!!!!

  

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utamaroho

Tue Sep-18-01 10:16 AM

  
175. "how much?"
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i took 1/3 cup of olive, castor, and flax seed oil...it messed me up...

try one cup 16 oz. of cold pressed olive oil...i guarantee results...


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Wed Sep-19-01 06:11 AM

  
177. "my throat hurts"
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the back of my throat hurts, like when i usually have tonsil problems...

does anyone know of a drink high in sulfure/sulfides that i can gargle? or maybe i'm just dehydrated...


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179. "salt water"
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or just drink ginger lemon honey in hot water (do u do the honey thing?)

chamomille is good too


==**peace**==

"baby,
I'd draw yuh bath
like Picasso..

pick you,
like fruit
off yuh family tree. &
eatcha' honeydew ass,
wet"

-Giovanni


"the skilled binder uses no strings or knots, while to unloose what he has bound would be impossible." Lao Tzu

"The logic of divide and rule is still valid today." Capleton

"if i'm smart enough to sneak around and learn to fly a plane to get me and all my friends enough false i.d. to board us airplanes to get me and all my friends through metal detectors and past security guards while hiding weapons to make an entire plane load of people afraid of my boxcutter i doubt i would be stupid enough to leave all the evidence behind in a rental car
unless i wanted you to think i was something that i'm not" (c) 2ndsurvivor

DomePoem Poets; Vibe Nation; One ppl under the spoken word

useful links:
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veg: http://www.vrg.org

.....

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- Amiri Baraka

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Wed Sep-19-01 06:32 AM

  
181. "noey is not natural...no..."
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____________________________________________________________________________

"Don't start shit with me. And don't think personalizing it would change how I feel. Feeling is always made richer though knowledge. Knowledge ensures that the truest depth of feeling is reached. And buddy, don't assume you know mine." -Cued

"why does it have to be about "them". why can't it be about our own. so are you suggesting that the HBCUs out there as a curriculum that is geared to that of propogating European culture and power? c'mon now." -JustLisa


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182. "how is honey unnatural?"
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bees make it...

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utamaroho

Wed Sep-19-01 06:36 AM

  
183. "beesmake it for bees..."
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when consumed into the human system...it disrupts the balance of glucose in the body...

i gotta find the info on it...but basically, the honey a beemakes is made to sustain a bee, not a human. much like cow's milk is meant to sustain a cow, not a human being. honey, somewhat like white sugar robs the body during the process of digestion of certain enzymes...maple syrup would be better. it contains the spectrum of B vitamins and is from a plant. honey is not vegan...


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185. "i was gonna ask"
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if maple syrup does the trick too for a sore throat

==**peace**==

"baby,
I'd draw yuh bath
like Picasso..

pick you,
like fruit
off yuh family tree. &
eatcha' honeydew ass,
wet"

-Giovanni


"the skilled binder uses no strings or knots, while to unloose what he has bound would be impossible." Lao Tzu

"The logic of divide and rule is still valid today." Capleton

"if i'm smart enough to sneak around and learn to fly a plane to get me and all my friends enough false i.d. to board us airplanes to get me and all my friends through metal detectors and past security guards while hiding weapons to make an entire plane load of people afraid of my boxcutter i doubt i would be stupid enough to leave all the evidence behind in a rental car
unless i wanted you to think i was something that i'm not" (c) 2ndsurvivor

DomePoem Poets; Vibe Nation; One ppl under the spoken word

useful links:
news: http://www.blackelectorate.com/links.asp
veg: http://www.vrg.org

.....

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utamaroho

Wed Sep-19-01 07:00 AM

  
187. "not for me..."
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usually it's too much sugar for my tastebuds anyways...


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188. "it's abt the texture"
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u need sumthin of that texture to coat a sore throat

know of any unsweet alternatives?

==**peace**==

"baby,
I'd draw yuh bath
like Picasso..

pick you,
like fruit
off yuh family tree. &
eatcha' honeydew ass,
wet"

-Giovanni


"the skilled binder uses no strings or knots, while to unloose what he has bound would be impossible." Lao Tzu

"The logic of divide and rule is still valid today." Capleton

"if i'm smart enough to sneak around and learn to fly a plane to get me and all my friends enough false i.d. to board us airplanes to get me and all my friends through metal detectors and past security guards while hiding weapons to make an entire plane load of people afraid of my boxcutter i doubt i would be stupid enough to leave all the evidence behind in a rental car
unless i wanted you to think i was something that i'm not" (c) 2ndsurvivor

DomePoem Poets; Vibe Nation; One ppl under the spoken word

useful links:
news: http://www.blackelectorate.com/links.asp
veg: http://www.vrg.org

.....

"Who need fossil fuel when the sun ain't goin' nowhere"
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186. "hm. interesting"
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189. "Day 4"
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I thought after day 1-3 it was supposed to get easier... smile...

worked at home, went for a long midday walk. Drank a bottle of Trader Joe's green super food. Wanted pizza. Went to bed at a normal hour. Dreamed of eating shaved carrots.

wtf.


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190. "Day 5"
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How the hell am I supposed to go raw when I can't stop thinking about pizza?? and top it off, got home after working out in the gym for 45 min and found my roommates devouring a pizza, asking "do I want any." Grr. Also wanting: rice, toast, ramen, chicken pesto sandwich a la wolfgang puck.

Meat and tons of bread/grains. What's UP with that.

Had carrot juice, lemons, mango, cherries.. more superfood drink. Bought a tray of wheatgrass today and had some of that. Bought the Juiceman book, have yet to read it.

Normal tired-- except at the gym, I had TONS of energy. I walked/ran for 20 minutes.. about the time I usually fall out, all wheezy and ish, I just stopped cause I felt like seeing what my boy was doing. I could've kept going for a loong time. Interesting. Especially since a couple days ago I slept for like 14 hours.

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191. "RE: Day 5"
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I have so much admiration for you and I wish you can tell me how you are able to be so disiciplined.

Everyday, I say I will fast but then I think about the Southern biscuits in the cafeteria or the delious burittos at Burritoville. I drink about 32oz of water in place of lunch but when lunch time is over there is this thing in me that feels incomplete if I did not eat.

You know whats funny, I am not eating out of hunger but more out of habit, and to fill some kind of void that I just can seem to find what it is. I think it's more out of habit.

Do you ever get this feeling and if you do how are you able to overcome it????? I am sure I can do this but I would be very miserable just constantly thinking about something I think I should have.

  

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192. "All in the Mind"
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Akwaaba

You have years of conditioned eating that you have to overcome. I've been in the vegetarian game for 8 years and its only been the past 3 years that I have taken a more informed role on how to eat properly. And let's not even get into the art of fasting. I still haven't gotten that down like I want to. Time, practice and patience will get you out of that loop. You have to REcondition yourself to think that the way you WANT to be IS natural and anything else isn't.

Therefore in the long run when you (and dispatriot) see cheese/meat/cooked pizza, chicken, beef, tuna sandwiches, etc. your urges will remain unaffected just like your urges would remain unaffected if you saw a jacket or telephone. You don't see a jacket or telephone as food therefore you wouldn't become hungry so if you don't see unhealthy edible items as food then you won't become hungry either. It also helps if you have one of those foods and become sick after eating it creating a taste aversion to it. That is the easy way out and requires less discipline but hey it works. I know of several starchy foods that have done this to me but none have been actual meat. However i don't even see meat as food so i don't get hungry or urges around it.

The only thing that could still remain as problems are the smells (as some meat dishes could possibly be vegetarian dishes as meats are usually seasoned to taste like vegetables) and SEEING PEOPLE EAT meat. It is not the "meat" that makes you hungry but rather SEEING PEOPLE EAT, that ultimately makes you hungry. However when this happens you will then daydream about wonderful piece of mango you had last week, the delicious solarICE that you drank in the morning, the seaweed salad you had for yesterday's lunch, or RAW VEGAN pizza you had for dinner last night.

PEace
solarICE

Still representin' the RED, BLACK & GREEN since 1978!
EFF RED, WHITE, & BLUE*!

Ain't a damn thing changed...

*That includes the Panamanian "dummy government setup by you know who" flag.


***Something to think about***

"if the god of these religions (judaism/christianity/islam) is not above using terrorist tactics to make people believe in Him (and what's the big deal if people do Not believe in Him? God is a egomaniac) then why wouldnt the hardcore followers of these faiths have a tendency to terrorism as well?"- yuckwheat

***PEace to those who made the transition...***

____________________________
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194. "RE: All in the Mind"
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Thank you!

You pointed out a very good point about reconditioning. I will keep trying.

As a matter fact, I am going to print this out and highlight that point with my yellow highlighter.

  

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195. "biggest thing"
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keeping me up with my discipline:

although I KNOW I need to detox, cause my digestive system is effed up.... the biggest reason that keeps me doing this is the very tangible result of losing weight. I need tangible day to day stuff I can point to that says I am progressing towards a goal. I think most of my excess weight is due to improper digestion and faulty metabolism-- I can eat almost nothing and gain weight. My boy is doing it to try and give his body space to clear out his lungs from years of smoking. My friend is doing it for general detox only.

As far as the reconditioning-- I agree to some extent, but I think I am craving carbohydrates for a reason.. there is a common denominator in most of what I'm craving which makes me think I'm either not giving my body something that it needs, or, my body is overcoming an addiction. Physiologically, not entirely psychologically.

And chyne.. anytime that I want food-- I just gulp down juice. I have a bottle of something next to me at all times, I drink when I'm not hungry, so I won't ever _get_ hungry.. if I had come home after the gym and been HUNGRY I think I would've died. I'm playing into my oral fixation by drinking 24/7....

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utamaroho

Thu Sep-20-01 09:12 AM

  
196. "COLONIC! COLONIC!"
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extreme tangible results...you actually "see" it...matter of fact, i lost 5 lbs. on mine...

_______________________________________________________
GOGO DODO

Gogo is a cute but zany dodo bird. He resides in Wackyland,
a confused, Dali-esque realm where bizarre backgrounds change
every second, and denizens include giant eyeballs, Picasso-styled
faces, and zanies with their heads on upside down.

A pure cartoon character, Gogo Dodo is the last of his species.
He is a living non-sequitur, the unofficial Wackyland goodwill
ambassador, ready to disorient any Acme Acres resident who
wanders into his bizarre territory. When the Toons are feeling
adventurous, they enter Wackyland. The speedy bird takes them
on a whirlwind tour of this crazy zone. Cavorting improbably
against the fantastic Wackylandscape, Gogo Dodo shatters every
rule of animation. Reality isn't in his bag of tricks.

Gogo Dodo is Wackyland's transfer student to Acme Looniversity.
Gogo operates by his own set of rules, which means no rules.
The crazy dodo is liable to turn up rowing a rubber raft through
the halls of the Looniversity, ice-skating in mid-air, drawing
doors on the wall and squeezing himself through the key hole,
or turning himself inside out and parading around as a No-pest
strip.

The only character with whom Gogo relates is Babs; they have
a similar 'anything goes' personality.

He has a silly voice that draws little distinction between
words and a lot of "Gerald McBoing Boing" style sound effects.


  

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dispatriot
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197. "RE: COLONIC! COLONIC!"
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Are you chanting for the use of an at-home kit--
or for one of those professional booty-crammers?

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utamaroho

Thu Sep-20-01 10:59 AM

  
198. "professional one...."
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mos def!

_______________________________________________________
GOGO DODO

Gogo is a cute but zany dodo bird. He resides in Wackyland,
a confused, Dali-esque realm where bizarre backgrounds change
every second, and denizens include giant eyeballs, Picasso-styled
faces, and zanies with their heads on upside down.

A pure cartoon character, Gogo Dodo is the last of his species.
He is a living non-sequitur, the unofficial Wackyland goodwill
ambassador, ready to disorient any Acme Acres resident who
wanders into his bizarre territory. When the Toons are feeling
adventurous, they enter Wackyland. The speedy bird takes them
on a whirlwind tour of this crazy zone. Cavorting improbably
against the fantastic Wackylandscape, Gogo Dodo shatters every
rule of animation. Reality isn't in his bag of tricks.

Gogo Dodo is Wackyland's transfer student to Acme Looniversity.
Gogo operates by his own set of rules, which means no rules.
The crazy dodo is liable to turn up rowing a rubber raft through
the halls of the Looniversity, ice-skating in mid-air, drawing
doors on the wall and squeezing himself through the key hole,
or turning himself inside out and parading around as a No-pest
strip.

The only character with whom Gogo relates is Babs; they have
a similar 'anything goes' personality.

He has a silly voice that draws little distinction between
words and a lot of "Gerald McBoing Boing" style sound effects.


  

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chyne
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200. "RE: COLONIC! COLONIC!"
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I don't mean to contradict you but I did not find colonics much help. I did three and still felt constipated.

The best results I had in my life was when I eliminated carbs from my diet for two weeks. (Oh God, how I wish I had the disicpline to do that for at least 2 months) In this time I eliminted so well and fully. I also noticed that I did not have the usual odour that I normally would have.

I you tell nothing but nothing produced the results I got from eliminating starches from my diet.

The only other thing that also did a real cleaning of my colon was psyllium. I tell you the first week I took that stuff, I could not believe what was coming out of my body. In fact and I hate to be so graphic, but in the excreta something looked like and felt like a plastic substance and I still keep wondering to this day what that was and how could it have gotten into my body. In fact the psyllium really scrubs the intestinal walls because when the feces comes out it even takes the shape of the intestine which goes to show all the crap thats stuck to the walls of the colon and how they stay in the body for years and years due to ingnorance and poor eating habits.

But the most effective thing was getting rid of carbs.

Peace!

  

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202. "Getting rid of starches"
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Akwaaba

Or more specifically "mucoid-forming" foods is the key. Soy technically is not a "starch" but still is mucoid-forming. That ultimately is what will sustain you in the long run. A colonic is just a temporary clean out and not meant to have a long term effect independent of one's lifestyle.

For instance, iover the stoves in restaurants are these vents that suck up the smoke that derives from cooking food. In restaurants where meat is cooked, these vents have to be cleaned at least twice a month and in some really heavy "meateries" FOUR times a month. Now the cleaning process does not stop the vents from getting a buildup of "gook" (which consists of smoke,dirt,cooking oils and animals fats), all it does is CLEAN it.

Now in vegetarian restaurants the buildup is nowhere near as much. The level at which the vents need to be cleaned is decided by the health dept. Vegetarian joints don't reach this level till at least a month or a month and a half. I know the one I worked at didn't reach for at least two months at a time.

So as you can see a colonic only works at eliminating the current buildup but it does not solve the CAUSE for a buildup. A colonic can help prevent constipation only by cleaning the colon to an extent that the current food in digestion is more able to come out because of less buildup in the colon. However the whether or not the food is mucoid-forming will be the ultimate key.

PEace
solarICE

Still representin' the RED, BLACK & GREEN since 1978!
EFF RED, WHITE, & BLUE*!

Ain't a damn thing changed...

*That includes the Panamanian "dummy government setup by you know who" flag.


***Something to think about***

"if the god of these religions (judaism/christianity/islam) is not above using terrorist tactics to make people believe in Him (and what's the big deal if people do Not believe in Him? God is a egomaniac) then why wouldnt the hardcore followers of these faiths have a tendency to terrorism as well?"- yuckwheat

***PEace to those who made the transition...***

____________________________
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203. "RE: Getting rid of starches"
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Everything you said makes a lot of sense and I never thought of it this way.

However, as I said, if one is eliminating properly and fully from the elimination of starches, then is a colonic necessary????

  

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206. "Technically"
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Akwaaba

NO, a colonic is not necessary. However colonics are often suggested to anyone who has experienced the S.A.D (Standard American Diet) at any point in their lives. There is so much gook in there that is hard to get out that a colonic can be very helpful in cleaning. I want to do at least one soon. (I'm a virgin )

PEace
solarICE

Still representin' the RED, BLACK & GREEN since 1978!
EFF RED, WHITE, & BLUE*!

Ain't a damn thing changed...

*That includes the Panamanian "dummy government setup by you know who" flag.


***Something to think about***

"if the god of these religions (judaism/christianity/islam) is not above using terrorist tactics to make people believe in Him (and what's the big deal if people do Not believe in Him? God is a egomaniac) then why wouldnt the hardcore followers of these faiths have a tendency to terrorism as well?"- yuckwheat

***PEace to those who made the transition...***

____________________________
"the real pyramids were built with such precision that you can't slide a piece of paper between two 4,000 lb stones, and have shafts perfectly aligned so that you can see a tiny aperture through dozens of these mammoth blocks

  

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201. "RE: biggest thing"
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Thank You!

I'm gonna keep on trying!

Peace.

  

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utamaroho

Thu Sep-20-01 04:45 AM

  
193. "DAY 18"
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two cocnuts, ginger root drink, spirulina...

fell fine, today was no biggie. made a mental note not to spend too much time in the raw restaraunt.

i have not been an eavesdropper

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utamaroho

Thu Sep-20-01 12:08 PM

  
199. "DAY 19"
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water...orange juice mixed w/ spinach juice (yum)...celery juice

hot apple cider and honey for sore throat...feeling cool
bout to go to practice

(((((peace)))))

i have not falsely accused anyone.


  

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JESSEWA

Fri Sep-21-01 09:53 AM

  
204. "The First Day"
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i am starting a 3-5 day fast, after a brief 1 day fast several weeks ago. today is the first day, and i feel great after that apple/carrot/beet/ginger/parsley/whatever drink, it was delicious.

i have a question though..

what ratio of water to juice should i drink each day?

i drink about a gallon of water, should i drink the same amount of juice?

-thanks.

  

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utamaroho

Fri Sep-21-01 10:01 AM

  
205. "that much juice"
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would probably leave you with an overabundance of vitamins that your body would just discard, adn thus a waste...

i only drink 3 juices a day amount

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utamaroho

Fri Sep-21-01 12:37 PM

  
208. "oh yeah, welcome aboard..."
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i personally fel motivated when yall join in...

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utamaroho

Fri Sep-21-01 12:30 PM

  
207. "DAY 20"
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one more day till we're at the top of the mountain...

today, just water...severe hunger pains, need juice

I have not been angry without reason

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209. "its the 19th day"
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20th is tomorrow if you started on the 3rd.

21st is sunday.

tryna cheat!

PEace
solarICE

Still representin' the RED, BLACK & GREEN since 1978!
EFF RED, WHITE, & BLUE*!

Ain't a damn thing changed...

*That includes the Panamanian "dummy government setup by you know who" flag.


***Something to think about***

"if the god of these religions (judaism/christianity/islam) is not above using terrorist tactics to make people believe in Him (and what's the big deal if people do Not believe in Him? God is a egomaniac) then why wouldnt the hardcore followers of these faiths have a tendency to terrorism as well?"- yuckwheat

***PEace to those who made the transition...***

____________________________
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utamaroho

Fri Sep-21-01 12:52 PM

  
210. "shit! niggas aint perfect! -c/o Mos Def in Bamboozled"
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thanks though...

damn dude...water fasting is a bitch!


they say though (gotta find source i read) that by the third day, your body goes from feeding off stored energies in gut and from organs...to using fat reserves which when dissolved take toxins along with them...

time to hit duhirgwe up for her discount...5 dollar gallon of raw o.j. for $2.50...i got the hook up! holla if ya hear me.

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JESSEWA

Sun Sep-23-01 05:11 AM

  
211. "2nd Day"
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woke up and did morning stretches, felt like i was going to pass out.. that glass of apple juice never tasted better.
went out to shenandoah national park, went on a 7.5 mile hike (i really dont think i was supposed to do that!) but i held up fine. my legs are quite sore though..tonight i will rest.
frozen icee-like grapefruit juice was delicious!
day 3 awaits..

  

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212. "Day 6, 7, 8, 9"
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Wow, I haven't posted in a while. I suck.

Ok... Need to kick my ass, drink more water, more veggies. It's weird, but I almost feel like I can't drink half the stuff I'm trynna put in my body. I had a small glass of tomato/carrot/pepper juice and could drink about a sip of it. My appetite has dropped considerably. Not hungry at all. I think my weight loss is slowin a little bit.

Now that that's outta the way.

I'm GOING TO DIE. I NEED PIZZA. PLEASE HELP.

Seriously, yo, I was at Vons going to pick up an Odwalla (I can't seem to stomach the ish I make these days) and I was about 2 seconds separated from bustin' my husband's ass and climbing through him to little caesar's.

W! T! F!

I don't know that I can make it through all 30 days. What IS this sht. I don't even LIKE pizza!!!!?!

My husband's going through the same, but he's an angel and tied me to the car passenger seat when I tried to break then and there. He's bein' all strong for me. Aww.

Ok. So yell at me and tell me what a p*ssy *ss b*tch I am so I won't quit.... PLEASE. NOW. S.O.S. I'm at the point where I'll feel real good if I get through day 10, and that will give me enough reason to let myself quit. This is seriously getting to me.. being distilled to only the incessant thought of "MUST EAT CRAP NOW" is really degrading.

*cry*

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213. "doing better.. still day 9...."
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Researching fasting with husband. Books, websites.. found www.freedomyou.com. A little oddly God-influenced, but lots of good fasting benefit info.

Trying to fight my raging inclinations with knowledge.

Fight. Fight. Fight.


dispatriot//
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utamaroho

Mon Sep-24-01 04:52 AM

  
216. "they say..."
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that cravings for foods you haven't had in a while...and don;t even like are the result of toxins being released into the system, triggering cravings...toxic substances can be stored in fat...when that fat is being used (burned) for energy like during a fast, the toxins produced by eating those foods you crave are passed back into the bloodstream thus sparking the "memory" of how that food felt back then and the cravings you feel now...

about staying on the fast, you probably won't make it...i say this for a couple of reasons. 1) you don't seem like that disciplined an individual at all...i mean, for real, had you not seen others doing the fast you woudn't have done it yourself. you're sad.

2) you're a woman, and i have YET to see a woman that could stop eating for more than 2 weeks. women in this culture really don;t have any discipline at all. and why should they, verything is handed to you all based on your looks and charms, so actually DOING something using your own internal energy and will is unnecessary for you all to survive. think about it, most of the fasters, ascetics, etc. are MEN who have decided to test their will and body to achieve new hieghts in their spirit. Women just don't do that! Just look at the number of men in this post fasting for long periods compared to the number of women who can't last 3 days! Most of yall already have in the back of your minds that you can fall back on that "time of the month" excuse that is used so much, whether to get out of work or to gain favors...Physically you are too weak to fast, mentally lack the will to sustain the discipline it takes to fast, and spiritually undeveloped to actualize "mind over matter". Persoanlly, i'd be surprised if you made it another day.

After you go eat that pizza, let this resonate through your mind:

"You're GROSS! And all that fasting was wasted over a slice of greasy shit!"

you're sad, DO BETTER, TRY HARDER...

*shaking head*

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217. "damn, boy"
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I'm not sure whether you truly are this resentful against the feminine of the species, or you really are that good-- you don't have to be the martyr for my cause, i.e. make me defiant in spite of you. However, I'm still encouraged to prove you wrong, so it works either way.

At any rate, prior to reading your post, I decided to only drink water today to get myself over this hump-- what you said about toxins of what you ate being released into your system makes sense, and only further encourages me on my plan to water fast today. It makes sense because I'm not really hungry or craving food in general. I work right next to the kitchen at work and it doesn't phase me. Most of my old diet was carbs & dairy, ramen, pasta, bread, etc, so craving a greasy ass pizza makes sense towards that end. The perfect combination of crap food from what I've been consuming.

re: no self-discipline... 1. this is my first fast ever. 2. I've come across none of this information before okp, so making a spontaneous decision to eat raw/vegan/juice fast/etc would never really occur independent of discovering the information as to _why_. I don't think I would be incorrect in saying that you are following the beneficial example of others that came before you. 3. You don't know me. I see you as an intelligent person who is on the path, and I respect that. I'd appreciate that you'd do the same. 4. re: being a ubdisciplined _woman_-- again, you don't know me. I refuse to qualify that with a response.

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utamaroho

Mon Sep-24-01 08:03 AM

  
219. "hey, if it works:"
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>>I'm not sure whether you truly are this resentful against the feminine of the species,

i don't believe any of that stuff i said about females (well not most of it ) i just threw that up to try and light your fire so you'd not give up! did i ever tell yall i was tops in my school in creative writing? that was some of it right there. you're right, i don't know you, that's why i said it...laughing all the while at the response i'd get...

glad you haven't eaten...but 30 days on your first fast??? damn, girl, you'll have me beat in no time...next thing you know, you'll be doing 100 day fasts 'n shit!

anyways, all tat stuff said above wasmeant to get a rise out of you so youd get "mad" enough to prove me wrong...

stay strong sis...you've done very well thus far!

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221. "I love you"
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you're gross.

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utamaroho

Mon Sep-24-01 08:25 AM

  
223. "i love you too..."
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...and yes, i'm gross.

the important thing is i'm better than everyone else!

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224. "RE: they say..."
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>2) you're a woman, and i
>have YET to see a
>woman that could stop eating
>for more than 2 weeks.
>women in this culture really
>don;t have any discipline at
>all.

You said this in jest, but when I did the master cleanser last time, my girlfriend (at the time) thought she would do it along with me... she was staying over my place, and the second she went home to her place (day 6) she quit the fast and went right to eating solid food that day. Some people ain't supportive of that shit at all...


Fresh Batch - live band funk/jazz/hip-hop from Philly...
http://www.freshbatchmusic.com

  

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225. "y chromosome"
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Shrug.. her reaction is independent of being female, in my opinion. As far as being unsupportive, let me tell you about my damn (male) roommate(!)

Leaves pizza boxes on top of my organic produce in the fridge. Tells me (and husband) I'm insane and/or stupid for doing this fast, that there's no health reason whatsoever to do it. His western acupuncturist said he can find no reason to do it other than spiritual reasons, so my roomie told him we were scientologists. (Because he thinks scientologists are insane too.)

Sigh.


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utamaroho

Mon Sep-24-01 09:16 AM

  
226. "ummmm..."
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>>(Because he thinks scientologists are insane too.)

nevermind.


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227. "I've heard some things..."
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That would lead me to be believe they may very well be insane, but that's a different story.

It's just rude that he goes around calling _me_ a scientologist.

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214. "Fall Equinox Review"
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Akwaaba

As we now enter a new season, a new time, a new cycle, I would like to reflect on a few things that I noticed about my body. The most profound thing that I realized is that nutrients, vitamins, etc. have very little to do with "energy." All of the following simply provide the elements needed for the body to maintain its own functioning order. This in turn allows for YOU (I) to be able to DO. "Energy" seems to be more mental and otherwise than physical.

It's like learning an internal martial arts style. Strengthening and conditioning the body is of primary importance only for one to be able to have an medium for one's internal energy to flow through. If one's instrument is not suitable for energy to flow through then the internal martial arts would be rendered ineffective. In fact this is the major reason why tai chi is considered a "healthful art" vs. "martial art."

At the beginning of my fast (1st 7 days) I was pretty much on point with following my regiment but the last 14 days were all but well. I failed to meet so many of my obligations that it was just pitiful. But of no money most of my fast has been relegated to consuming water, Greens+, spirulina, and various fruit juices, mostly oj but also mango, peach, apple, lemon and grapefruit. I've had very little of any green juices other than some parsley. However I noticed that overall my energy level has been higher as of recent than it was than the first 7 days when I HAD juices. As of recent, whenever I have been unmotivated or tired, it was usually because of a lack of sleep and extremely long days or my emotional state (no money, bills, and 9-11 Aftermath got to me too, DAMN sheep flying flags! especially black sheep like mi madre !)

Oh yeah I also realized why i stopped fasting for significantly long periods in the thick of a school semester.

Remember this formula:
Fasting Student Formula
LATE NIGHTS + PAPERS + READING + WORK + FASTS = NO ENERGY!

I lost 23 lbs which is about 1 lb a day so that is fine. I hope i don't lose much more weight. I need to get back on my exercising that I have somewhat slacked off on. At least I maintained my pushups (somewhat). Well it's have way over. 21 more days to go !

Oh yeah I've come up with a couple of more drinks and also some food ideas that I can't wait to try. I love fasting!

PEace
solarICE

Still representin' the RED, BLACK & GREEN since 1978!
EFF RED, WHITE, & BLUE*!

Ain't a damn thing changed...

*That includes the Panamanian "dummy government setup by you know who" flag.


***Something to think about***

"if the god of these religions (judaism/christianity/islam) is not above using terrorist tactics to make people believe in Him (and what's the big deal if people do Not believe in Him? God is a egomaniac) then why wouldnt the hardcore followers of these faiths have a tendency to terrorism as well?"- yuckwheat

***PEace to those who made the transition...***

____________________________
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utamaroho

Mon Sep-24-01 04:37 AM

  
215. "DAYS 20 & 21"
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(top of the mountain)

coconut water, detox (grapefruit/lemon/orange juice & maple syrup) watermelon juice, celery/ginger/sunflower sprout juice...lots of water...cranberry juice/pineapple.

interesting parts: had fresh raw sugar cane...chewed on it and loved the natural sweetness...chewed on it in between drinking coconut water...i really need to live on an island for real!

trained three days straight. harnessed energy and performed a few power excercises. stretched and relaxed. changed oil on car, gave it a tune up, installed new brakes and rotated tires, pretty productive weekend.

feel pretty good. performed enema last night and watched a lot of gunk come out...really need to be doing this every morning.

memorizing the negative confessions proves to be one of the hardest aspects of the fast, well not the memorizing, but adhering to them...the second half of the list is really intense.

I have not been angry without reason

I have not seduced anyone's wife



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Mon Sep-24-01 10:38 AM

  
229. "dammit jim, i'm a computer technician, not a mechanic...."
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plus, i'm lazy.. and nashville is too far away...

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Mon Sep-24-01 07:59 AM

  
218. "3rd Day (final)"
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woke up incredibly sore from hiking yesterday.
went to capoeria practice and stretched, joined in some of the basic exercises..felt better.
drank lots of apple juice and some carrot/organge.
accidentaly put a cashew in my mouth but spit it out after chewing and realizing what i was doing! haha
stomach getting smaller, appetite little to none..i could go on for days, but its final.
i ordered a juice fasting book, and the weeks before thanksgiving, i plan to take on a longer program.
went shopping and brought back all kinds of deliciouses!
broke the fast with a breakfast of chopped apple sitting in a small bowl of soy milk, with granola lightly sprinkled on top.
mmmm, thanks be to the fast.
peace.

  

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utamaroho

Mon Sep-24-01 08:06 AM

  
220. "congrats!"
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good job, was this your first fast?

believe it or not the 3 day fast is just as difficult as any longer one (to me anyways). i always have a hard time w/ day 3...don't know why.

p.s. stop talking about granola and apples, you hit a soft spot there...i'm thinking of applesauce and plums right now for my first meal.

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222. "wasaaaaaabi"
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You know, I'm fasting with my husband & my friend T....
T has an appetite for hot stuff (which I don't!) but we both share the same passion for wasabi! He sent me this recipe maybe some of you will enjoy.. cuz I don't know I could handle it. (My hub made a really interesting drink of peppers and jalapenos the other day.. these boys are gettin all rough wit it.
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2 stalks celery
1 bunch raw spinach
1 bunch green onion
5-6" length horse radish root
it is probably a good idea to juice the horse radish first in a clean juicer as you can save the pulp to make a good mild horseradish dipping sauce. And be careful, this recipe made me cry for about 30min straight.
-T
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utamaroho

Mon Sep-24-01 11:26 AM

  
230. "day 22"
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coconut water, yellow root tea, applecider/honey (fo throat) flax seed oil, vita malt, passion fruit drink...

I have not polluted myself (time to get bout it!)

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Mon Sep-24-01 11:36 AM

  
231. "Down the mountain"
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time to use the momentum of the first half to get some serious cleansing and building done this half...much like when climbing the mountain there is strain. the first half of the fast is hard. now, skipping down the other side will be easy, pretty much on autopilot now.

things i hope to do this half:

more water
more green drinks(my main point)
more sleep
more cleansing of the mind
more stretching

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232. "RE: Down the mountain"
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Akwaaba

Have you done this exercise in class? It's called "climbing the mountain" First you go up the mountain then you go back down. You probably won't though because this is an exercise that stems from the shaolin tradition. Basically you do a sequence of stances then you redo them to go back down.

PEace
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EFF RED, WHITE, & BLUE*!

Ain't a damn thing changed...

*That includes the Panamanian "dummy government setup by you know who" flag.


***Something to think about***

"if the god of these religions (judaism/christianity/islam) is not above using terrorist tactics to make people believe in Him (and what's the big deal if people do Not believe in Him? God is a egomaniac) then why wouldnt the hardcore followers of these faiths have a tendency to terrorism as well?"- yuckwheat

***PEace to those who made the transition...***

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233. "which style"
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do you study?

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Tue Sep-25-01 02:12 AM

  
234. "what's it physically look like?"
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235. "Day 10 ::: intense"
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Holy f*ck.

Well, I only drank water yesterday. Was doing pretty good, not hungry all day. Very introverted, moved quietly and peacefully throughout my day. At around 7+pm I started to get spacy, headachy. Which I expected much earlier. My muscles started to ache also. But the hunger pangs didn't bother me at all.

And I could SMELL EVERYTHING. It was crazy. The place I work serves lunch and I could smell the breading on the fish, the fish itself, the mayonaise on it, all separately. I could smell a tiny dab of rosemary/lavender oil a room away. My roommate cooked steak last night and from upstairs I yelled down: are you cooking steak? (yes) in broth? (yes)

I don't effing SMELL broth. wtf! It was intense, I loved it.

Then about 11p rolled around, the time I usually go to bed.. and I started to feel like I Was going to throw up.. I went to bed, and half the night I was tossing and turning and dreaming about food poisoning and couldn't sleep because I wanted to puke. For about 5 hours. I woke up and went to the bathroom and my urine was a dark orange-- this whole fast it's been clear! I only drank water so I guess my body expelled a lot. I also lost two pounds just from this one day.

I had a little bit of an odwalla super protein and thought it tasted nasty-- usually I love them things. It tasted too.. complicated. And I went back to bed for an hour or so, felt MUCH better. I don't think I can do this for more than a day at a time, it just kills me.

But I'm remotivated for my juice fast, definitely. I was much more calm, had much more perspective on what I was doing from the one day water fast (sans battling with detox sickness). I think I may try it again Friday, depending on what I have planned fri night.. because sleeping in the next day is ESSENTIAL. The ish wore me OUT.


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236. "one more thing"
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my mouth tasted like old milk all day.. and I kept having (ignorable) cravings for yogurt, cheese croissants, cheese proper... so I guess, utam, what you said about craving what your body releases is true. I _tasted_ that ish. Weird.

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237. "I like this quote"
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>"Every time you rise from your
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utamaroho

Tue Sep-25-01 11:14 AM

  
238. "day 23"
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coconut water, (gingeroot juice/pineapple/honey)...

yellowroot tea is THE SHIT, cured my throat issue, feeling normal again. need to sweep all this mucous out, time to break out the cayenne!

had 2 revelations today which i will incorparate into my speech...

I have not terrorized anyone

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239. "Day 11"
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Sense of smell relatively back to normal.

But everything tasted bad! I had an Odwalla Mango Tango, and an Odwalla Protein drink.. both were just weird tasting to me, while usually I like them. Had my last juice at 2p and only drank water the rest of the day. Felt really good, not sick or headachy. Didn't lose any weight but urine is still kind of dark, so I guess I'm still detoxing. (It's been pretty clear when I've been drinking LOTS of juice.)

Still searching for a booty-cleaner.

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240. "guava juice"
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i think i'm in love


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241. "Day 12"
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Very little juice, still the bottled kind~~ odwalla, trader joe's.

First enema. Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeiiiiiiiiiirrrrrrrrrrrrrrdddddd.
Not painful, not any more so than a strong laxative, but damn weird. Icy coldness all up in my gut.

Not a whole lot came out, which is surprising due to my lack o' activity in that area since fasting. But I did feel much lighter afterwards.

Ain't any way in hell I'm doing it everyday, tho, utam is a trooper. (Same reason I can't take strong laxatives every day.. the ish just makes me feel a little sick.)

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242. "Enemas don't do the job"
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Akwaaba

Enemas only help cleanse the lower third of one's colon. ALso many experts say they are habit-forming. Colonic is better.

SE wo werE fi na wosankofa a yenkyi.


PEace
solarICE

Still representin' the RED, BLACK & GREEN since 1978!
EFF RED, WHITE, & BLUE*!

Ain't a damn thing changed...

*That includes the Panamanian "dummy government setup by you know who" flag.


***Something to think about***

"if the god of these religions (judaism/christianity/islam) is not above using terrorist tactics to make people believe in Him (and what's the big deal if people do Not believe in Him? God is a egomaniac) then why wouldnt the hardcore followers of these faiths have a tendency to terrorism as well?"- yuckwheat

And one more thing:
I AM NOT UTAMAROHO AND HIS VIEWS DON'T NECESSARILY REFLECT MINE!!!

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243. "RE: Enemas don't do the job"
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Colonics are expensive and theres something weird about sticking a metal object up your rectum that shoots water into your intestine. I don't feel thats natural (just my opinion) I also heard that it also can be habit forming.

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Fri Sep-28-01 03:55 AM

  
245. "enemas CAN get past the descending colon..."
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it depends on how you move your body while doing it. the last time, i got the water across the tranverse, and to the ascending. using warm water you can feel it hit corners and move to the different areas. if you're only getting water to the third part, then you need to clean out the stuff there until it can pass all the way through. it took me three weeks before i got that far.

now i use enemas in the morning to flush the toxins deposited during the night and psyllium husk at lunchtime. needless to say, my stomach and "pouch" area is totally flat. my family and friends say there is a VERY noticeable difference...there really is...

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Fri Sep-28-01 03:51 AM

  
244. "DAYS 24 & 25"
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drank so many fresh juices i won;t even try to remember them all...

moved from one apartment to another...drank coconut water all day long.

experienced "serious" pain in training followed by one of the greatest highs i've experienced. walked across the burning sand and came out barely scorched.

i have not disobeyed the law.

i have not been excessively angry.
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246. "Day 13"
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Had a very little bit of carrot juice. Nasty stuff, can't drink it. (My body is developing some funny aversions.)

Got really hungry @ ish so semi-cheated and had some organic brocolli soup. Hard to swallow at first, but was damn good. Gained .5 pound @ 146.5.

Starting to do some yoga, a little, from a cheap $5 little picture book from BN that has all the basics, including the sun salutation.

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Fri Sep-28-01 08:29 AM

  
247. "i drank soup too on my last 42 day fast..."
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tasted good...and warm.

they make a veggie "chicken" broth type soup that's good...also, if you don't know about miso...go find out about it.

especilly when fasting while cold outside.

right now i'm craving a papa john's pizza with sauce only and a few garlic butter pakages...

*drewling like homer simpson now*

but hey, cookded food is poison, cooked food is poison...

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252. "when was the last time"
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you had papa johns's? Half the time I think you've been vegan before you could walk, the other half I think you quit off that ish 2 weeks ago.

Also, I haven't had miso during this fast, but I LOVE that ish. LOVELOVELOVE. So good. The broccoli was cheating cuz it had soy and rice flour... it just happened to be in the fridge. BUT I was looking through the Organic soup section (you know em, those Imagine black boxes o' soup) and discovered POTATO LEEK soup has nothin but veggies and safflower oil. No rice flour/soy. AND it is the highest in Iron content, which is an added bonus in the war against anemia. I'll prolly be having that several more times while fasting.

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utamaroho

Mon Oct-01-01 02:20 AM

  
254. "always wanted to try that potato leek soup..."
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i always see it. looks good.

last time i had papa johns? a few months before the fast started...that shit is GOOD! i don't care what some people say

i've been vegan for 3+ years...about the anemia thing...eat better food. simple as that. that dis-ease can be alleviated rather quickly (from those who've told me they used to have it) by eating good quality raw green leafy salads.





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262. "but..."
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papa john's== cheese == not vegan.

You're a vegan that makes an exception for papa john's?

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282. "i don't get cheese on it...only sauce"
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248. "carrot and pineapple?"
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i'm no expert but yesterday I had a Carrot, Pineapple, & Orange juice. It was very good. Maybe you should try that. I know Odwalla makes one.


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utamaroho

Fri Sep-28-01 01:55 PM

  
249. "DAY 26"
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fruit juices...like 4 different kinds...

psyllium husk for lunch... tired of fasting...wanna eat now. workout ("rites of passage for male warriors" as my teacher called it) in martial arts class kicked my damn ass and now my body is shutting down (never felt like this before)...perhaps i should do some tai chi.

I have not cursed God

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250. "RE: OkayFast Falll 2001"
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I have to say I find I have more energy eating vegetables in the form of salads than juice. This seems very ironic since when you juice, you have more vegetables.

Peace.

  

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Sun Sep-30-01 11:02 AM

  
251. "DAYS 27 & 28"
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damn...is this shit EVER gonna end?

had various ffruit and veggie juices...one of which is called carrot calm, and is really, really good. extremely stressful weekend but with help of fellow martial arts classmate...i made it through...

realized how often people eat and focus on eating...damn shame. plus, realized that even though people close to me know i'm not eating, they STILL offer me food...over and over again. the shit is funny. people REALLY think fasting can't be done and adhered to. oh well...

hemmoroids acted up real bad as a result of the psyllium uhsk...i'm not taking that again unless i'm eating...hands and feet still bleeding somewhat from class thursday, and body is tired...time to really relax. tai chi excercises working a little, but need to practice how to breath and focus on that some more. time to break out this yogi text "Science of Breath".

spirulina, though unnatural in powder form , is really a good energy booster. well...time to go train....

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I have not caused disruption of peace


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253. "Day 14-16"
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Over the hump, woo!

Me +husband +T were all riding in the car from Griffith Park and hus said "how bad would it be to just have a _little_ tofu right now?" And we just stared blankly and called him the devil. Cause you know we both wanna jump up and say, "oh, not bad at all, let's go at!!" But we can't...

Overall,pretty good, no excessive cravings. Been wandering through the aisles of whole foods and label-reading to figure out what I can and can't eat re: vegan. Finding lots o' goods. Found a book called Becoming Vegan, which dealt with how to supplement your body with those things you would usually get from meat. Had mostly apricot, peach, papaya juices, and that potato leek soup tonight (16). Not enough water, still trying to train myself to.. train myself/work out.

DID however discover there is a booty-crammin place right on my street. Will check them out this week. Whee.

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255. "1st day of 7 days"
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Whoo! I started sunday, saturday I finally got my juicer, so saturday night I decided to get my juices toghether. I love my jucer I really do!! Anyway, saturday night I drunk a gallon of water, two tablespoons of castor oil, two tablespoons of olive oil, and one flaxseed pill. That is what my grandmom told me to do in order to get ready for the fast. Buy the night time I experienced the bathroom in a very personal way no need to expound.

Sunday morning drank 16 ozs of banana/apple/pear juice, umm, umm , good! Was full til after church. Lots of water, to tide me over to lunch.

More banana/apple/pear for lunch.

Dinner I tried to get creative but got my tastebuds hurt, carrot/celery/spinach/apple juice, bad decision. No celery, celery is bad! Next time I know better. Will be going to Wild Oats to get some Naked juice, for my lunch times. It's super green.

So far so good, had a craving for brownies this morning! I know the first 3 days are gonna be rough!

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utamaroho

Mon Oct-01-01 05:15 AM

  
256. "use celery after a workout!"
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for some reason it tastes better then...

way to go on day one!

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257. "Do you have some good celery recipes"
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Cuz right now Imma have all this celery and nothing to want to do with it.

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Principle 2 - The Beloved Community is the framwork for the future.

Principle 3 - Attack forces of evil, not persons doing evil.

Principle 4 - Accept suffering without retaliation for the sake of the cause to acheive the goal.

Principle 5 - Avoid internal violence of the spirit as well as external physical violence

Principle 6 - The Universe is on the side of justice.
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utamaroho

Mon Oct-01-01 06:13 AM

  
258. "celery apple"
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has good potassium/sodium ratio...

celery/ginger/apple...

basically add alot of apples and few celery stalks and other stuff...just have enough apples to mask the taaste of the celery...

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259. "lemon? maybe abt a quarter of one?"
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do lemon and celery mix?


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utamaroho

Mon Oct-01-01 06:18 AM

  
260. "i really wanna rip into this food combining shit really bad..."
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sometimes cats be pissin me off saying that stupid shit! god damn!

but anyways, i've never tried that combo. sounds nastee

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261. "Rip into it, what is there to say about food combining?"
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Principle 1 -Nonviolence is a way of life for couragous people.

Principle 2 - The Beloved Community is the framwork for the future.

Principle 3 - Attack forces of evil, not persons doing evil.

Principle 4 - Accept suffering without retaliation for the sake of the cause to acheive the goal.

Principle 5 - Avoid internal violence of the spirit as well as external physical violence

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263. "you mean a la Fit For Life?"
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I haven't seen anything against "proper food combining"; i.e. only eating one concentrated food at a meal. I'd be interested to see the cons.

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264. "Day 1: Just water."
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the mind is funny. i usually only eat dinner anyway (that's why the sunup/sundown fast would never work for me -- i always do that), but today i'm "hungry", because i know i won't be eating tonight.

its been about a year since the last time i fasted. that was 7 days, just water.

this time, i'll probably do 6 days w/ water, and possibly herbal tea as a cleanser.



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utamaroho

Mon Oct-01-01 09:09 AM

  
265. "my last 7 days will be just water (hopefully)"
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the mind IS a funny thing...stay strong, and welcome aboard.

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utamaroho

Mon Oct-01-01 11:15 AM

  
266. "DAY 29"
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water...almond milk...orange juice.

getting hungry, body excellently sculpted...been lifting heavy boxes and have the energy to do so...feel fine.

hemmoroids are a BITCH! hope we don't kick much in class...

I have not acted hastily or without thought

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269. "RE: DAY 29"
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>hemmoroids are a BITCH! hope we
>don't kick much in class...
>

How in the Hell you get hemmoriods....???????
and we had a KICK A Thon...

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utamaroho

Tue Oct-02-01 04:15 AM

  
270. "the veins around my anus are swollen"
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...actually only one of them...there are 5 main ones. caused by too much pressure on the anus while its tight...i.e. taking big ass psyllium husk shits while fasting. basically, i haven't taken a bowel movement due to not eating and whe i do shit (or do the enema) it causes pressure that swells the veins...

it doesn't hurt, but its just a little uncomfortable. the kicking didn't bother it...



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272. "WHY?!!!!"
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Yimhotep
Dios mio man, y must u be so detailed?!!
Star, trus' me, really and truly, u give too much information sometimes.
Shemhotep


>...actually only one of them...there are
>5 main ones. caused by
>too much pressure on the
>anus while its tight...i.e. taking
>big ass psyllium husk shits
>while fasting. basically, i haven't
>taken a bowel movement due
>to not eating and whe
>i do shit (or do
>the enema) it causes pressure
>that swells the veins...
>
>it doesn't hurt, but its just
>a little uncomfortable. the kicking
>didn't bother it...
>
>
>
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>Common Stomach. A symbol of
>UNITY IN DIVERSITY & WARNING
>AGAINST INTERNAL SQUABBLES WHERE THERE
>IS A COMMON DESTINY. Here's
>a pic: http://www.library.cornell.edu/africana/Writing_Systems/Funtummireku.html
>
>If it works do it, if
>it doesn't, DO BETTER!
>
>(((((PEACE)))))


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utamaroho

Tue Oct-02-01 02:24 PM

  
273. "my experiences can help others...."
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plus so many people are afraid/embarrased to even ask about basic anatomy type shit...that i might as well throw it out there...

...i won't even talk about how KY jelly leaks out the ass after an enema..

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267. "Day 2 - Waste Not Want Not"
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Yesterday was just plain hard. Everr\ything was cool til I had to come home. It just makes you upset when you finally realize why you do the things you do. Then you get mad cuz you been doing it for so long it is hard to change your attitude.

N-E-way, I had to drink the rest of that celery/spinach stuff I made the night b-4, cuz I was not going to throw all that good/expensive veggies away.

For lunch I had water, just water. I was fine.

Went to Wild Oats to get some h2o refills and some more Naked Juice. Aww stomach was killing me for some of the Wild Oats veggie pizza. Had to resist, the mind is an awful thing when it works against the body.

Get home and was trying to have a peaceful night, but that is hard when you got a roommate, who doesn't understand why you are doing what you do. Then she got the ghetto boyfriend, and it was all downhill from there. To much drama. I drank more water than I thought possible but when the drama started, I wanted foods, solids, but I prayed and resisted and made a wonderful carrot/orange/lemon drink. It is tasty.

Hopefully today will be better, will be going to work out today, so as to get the stress off.


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Principle 1 -Nonviolence is a way of life for couragous people.

Principle 2 - The Beloved Community is the framwork for the future.

Principle 3 - Attack forces of evil, not persons doing evil.

Principle 4 - Accept suffering without retaliation for the sake of the cause to acheive the goal.

Principle 5 - Avoid internal violence of the spirit as well as external physical violence

Principle 6 - The Universe is on the side of justice.
----------------------------

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utamaroho

Tue Oct-02-01 04:06 AM

  
268. "good job..."
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make it past day 3 and you've done LOTS for your body!

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utamaroho

Tue Oct-02-01 01:06 PM

  
271. "DAY 30"
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FINALLY, one month marker complete. only 12 days left...

today i had: water...spirulina...

need to drink some juice later on...

I have not overstepped my boundaries of concern.

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274. "Day 3 - Just the facts"
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Wow I know my bathroom in a personal way. I know how many times you can courtesy flush, until the toilet won't flush no more, I know that fan doesn't work very well, I know I hate the carpet in the bathroom, we need a new shower curtain, etc. Why do I know these things cuz I was in the bathroom all afternoon and night. Yes I saw some things come out that I don't want to see again. Shall we call it a cornicopia (sp?) of colors. Enuff of that.

N-E-wayz, for breakfast I had ornge/apple/pear juice it was goody, goody. And lunch I had I carton of Green Machine Naked Juice, which has alot of acid I might add. Dinner I was still feeling kind of full, but my mind wanted an onion bagel. That would have been tasty, but I drunk water for the rest of the night.

I was trying to look in the Warehouse music store but my stomach was doing some strange things and making odd noises, oh yeah it was time. I had to rush home, and become one with the bathroom.

This fast isn't very hard cuz I think my body is used to me fasting, I usually do a sunup sundown fast on THursdays, where I only drink water. So I don't think it will be such a challenge. The most challenging fast I did was the 'no sugar', that was hard.

But, so far so good.
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The Six Principles of Non-Violence: The Kingian Philosophy

Principle 1 -Nonviolence is a way of life for couragous people.

Principle 2 - The Beloved Community is the framwork for the future.

Principle 3 - Attack forces of evil, not persons doing evil.

Principle 4 - Accept suffering without retaliation for the sake of the cause to acheive the goal.

Principle 5 - Avoid internal violence of the spirit as well as external physical violence

Principle 6 - The Universe is on the side of justice.
----------------------------

"I wanna be that annoying little cousin at the family reunion who's all up in your grill cuz you're the most interesting thing since play-doh" - Ornje 2001



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utamaroho

Thu Oct-04-01 04:18 PM

  
279. "hmmmmm..."
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>>ornge/apple/pear juice

sounds good! i'm gonna have to tste it!

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275. "day 17-20 (i think)"
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time is slipping away!!

But, no matter, according to my self-indulgent feasting schedule next weekend, I have ONE MORE WEEK of fasting to go. So a week from today I get to sink my teeth into some hot, sweet, juicy...

spinach leaves!!!!

And then a week from saturday all the non-dairy cheesecake I can bypass my guilt to handle. It ain't 30 days, it's a few days short, but I think my guilt (or lack thereof) can withstand it. I've done pretty good.

Uta-- proud to know, this Saturday morning bright and early I have a colonic schedule. *praying*



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276. "RE: day 17-20 (i think)"
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Oh, and, today I water fast. Yesterday I did mostly water.

And had another enema, ew.

Mostly fruit juices. Can't bring myself to drink veggie juice, don't know why.. but I think the potato leek soup may be supplementing me in that arena, plus a couple of odwalla greenfoods.

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utamaroho

Thu Oct-04-01 04:15 PM

  
278. "maybe i'll send you..."
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a calling card number so you can tell me about it...immediately after mine i felt so good i had to tell people about the feelings i was having...it was GREAT!

tips: trust the doctor, they know what they are doing...ASK QUESTIONS! that's how you learn...since you had an enema the insertion part won't be shit to you...when the water fills up the belly, allow it to swell untill its slightly uncomfortable, that way you are "blowing up" your colon and loosening the stones off the walls with the pressure exerted on them...when you need to release make sure s/he is massaging your stomach to help ease the stones out...if you have acidophilus powder, take it with you...they might not have any and you'll want to replace this after that "hurricane" just went through your system...if they have apple cider vinegar, use that and some chlorophyll...

you can take your own stuff too...

have someone go with you to see the stuff coming out...i guarantee they'll wanna get one too!

good luck and you're doing great. i'm happy over here on this end that you've gone so far!
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utamaroho

Thu Oct-04-01 04:04 PM

  
277. "DAYS 31 & 32"
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waterfast on 31st...

today i drove to DC in a uhaul and had no drinks with me, i was rushed trying to get here...

unfortunately all i could get was v-8 splash drinks and water...seeing the changes in scenery through the states was cool. North Carolina has a nice little wildflower project going on with some beautiful purple flowers. Gas in South Carolina was $1.19 where we stopped! then in DC it was like $45.00...not as cold as i thought here.

today i made a mistake in a moment of dispair and drank something i shouldn't have. no excuse whatsoever...i wont say what it is, but if you can unscramble this (prepeprd), you'll know *hanging head*...keep it to yourselves. (i mean, that was ALL they had besides damn mayfield milk! i hate country-ass gas stations)

i have not exagerrated my words when speaking
i have not worked evil
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280. "YOU'RE GROSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
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(prepeprd)

Kill yourself

NOW!

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Thu Oct-04-01 04:49 PM

  
281. "my punishment..."
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i will be drinking the same amount of wheatgrass as that stuff...
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283. "ohmigosh"
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Now that's punishment!!!

The worst thing I've drank was soy... and I accidentally ate two raspberries on day two.

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284. "day 20-21"
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I think, damn, what day _is_ it?

Yesterday waterfasted MAINLY.. broke down at about 2p and got an odwalla greenfood. I was dizzy and verging on unconscious.. couldn't work. I didn't get a lot of sleep because I woke up early--6am, way early for me, after going to bed at 1230-- to go see a house in Echo Park. I'm moving outta Culver City. I've grown fond of some hangouts around here, but the house I live in doesn't cut it, and I've gotten kind of tired of the westside...

So, lost 2 pounds yesterday. Didn't feel sick like my first water fast day bcuz I had that one odwalla, but still lost the same amt of weight. I weigh 143.5.


Today I will probably repeat-- water all day, one odwalla which I'm about to get. Altho today is WAY better than yesterday because I got more sleep!!

Tomorrow is the day.


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Fri Oct-05-01 03:14 PM

  
285. "DAY 33"
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oj, water, that's it...

little strenuos excercise (stockin a stroage facility full of boxes and furniture)...saw some mucus come out of my anus after a very hard and solid bowel movement...disgusting. i gotta do something drastic to get this out.

i have not used evil thoughts, words, or deeds...

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286. "d22"
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Had my colonic this morning-- took a shower and drove a block over to the place. (Seriously didn't know it was there.)

Hilites:
-full body massage
-apple cider vinegar flush
-full hour 'o purging

I felt great afterwards, except stuff didn't seriously start flushing till the last quarter of the hour I was there. I want to go back when I can afford it.

The process-- NOT painful, not even the super-lubed insertion. It's done entirely by machine and very sterile, so no icky smells or mess, or embarassing gas or having to "push" stuff out. Liquid squirts into you, stuff is sucked out of you, no muss, no fuss. If you're considering it, it doesn't feel bad/weird, & the place was 400% more welcoming than a doctor's office (I felt like I was in someone's home!)

Otherwise.. had my trusty Odwalla green food and water and pear juice. May have soup latah... drove around the artist ghetto in echo park all day and fell in love...

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287. "i'm glad the experience was pleasant!"
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after hearing of your visit, i think i'll go ahead and sign up for mine now...should be "interesting" to see what comes out this time around...

make sure you eat/drink well from here on out. what stuff did you see come out? what color/size/shape? i'm curious.


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290. "RE: i'm glad the experience was pleasant!"
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>what stuff
>did you see come out?
>what color/size/shape?

I wasn't afforded the experience of examining it. Maybe next time...


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288. "DAY 34"
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had pineapple/ginger...water...spirulina shake...some kind of citrus/echinacea shake...mushroom soup broth...

rode train from dc to atl, (glad to be going home), amtrak sucks!

I have not polluted the water

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289. "day 26...?"
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I guess, or my math is all off. What date is the last day of the 42-day fast? I thought today should be 28 days for me.. but I'm all off.

Today is my last day. Officially. Although I have the feeling I will be doing this regularly in continuing efforts to lose weight; we shall see if that's a viable way to go. I'm not sure if a day-fast or two-day fast will expell toxins as easily, i.e. if the effects are only manifested when the behavior is cumulative. (I'm equating toxins in this instance to fat.) A large part of my focus with dietary health will be to pare down the amount of pastas/breads; so in cases where I think maybe I've gone overboard on the carbs I could modify that with a day of fasting... It's going to be very experimental.

I regret that I didn't have the discipline to start an at-home exercise regiment, which means the weight that has been lost will be gained back to some extent-- not all, since I'm going on a strict vegan diet! But some. The only way to combat that is through more exercise than what I'm doing now, which is really only going for a walk most every day. The only way it will work is if I ritualize it, and getting up early in the mornings has not been a reality for me on this fast. I have noticed in the last couple of days that I NEED my 8 hours of sleep.. for a while I thought it was only that I couldn't wake up in the morning no matter when I went to bed. So if I try to get up, and that means 7 hours of sleep for my body, my body instantly rejects it and entices me with dreams of my extra sleep equating to me saving the world... So, anyhow, knowing this maybe I can work a more effective morning-time routine into my life.

I have consumed mostly water and an odwalla green juice (or equivalent of) a day for the past week... tomorrow I will report on how finally eating is going, although I'm actually largely indifferent to it. At this point I could eat or not eat.

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291. "blood"
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Usually I start bleeding on the new moon, the way women naturally should. Since I got a female roommate several months ago, I have switched rhythms with her and bleed on the full moon. (grr.)

This month I was late.. still am. Full moon was several weeks ago.. my body behaved as though it would start bleeding on monday of this week. So far only spotting all week. I'm assuming this is related to the fast, and tomorrow will probably take some Vitex Agnus Castus (root that causes onset of blood).

Are there vitamins/nutrients that the femme body needs in order to bleed, or is it just that my body is in starvation mode?

//..so far, so good; I have eaten 5 grapes.

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292. "tell me if the root works"
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ya got me worrying......


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293. "ok"
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It's worked b4.. I'm a paranoid chicky generally when it comes to being preggers... unlike you I am SO NOT READY to have kids. Now, or possibly ever... It's a beautiful thing that I don't think I can handle, so generally at the first signs of lateness I down some of this stuff. I had a friend turn me on to it 3-4 years ago when I first stopped taking the pill; supposed to promote period regularity, but generally makes me bleed pretty quickly, since I only take it when I should be bleeding anyway.

And pregnant wimmins, of course, aren't supposed to take it, ever.

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303. "all good"
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I didn't even get around to taking the root.. the night I started eating my cycle kicked in, no additional weirdness.

I guess fasting== body in starvation mode== no blood letting.

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296. "RE: blood"
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Red raspberry tea is good to drink during the menses. Also, drink lots of tomato juice, grape juice, and beet juice. Red foods. High in iron. It is important to replace the iron lost via the blood during this time period.

peace.

>>Are there vitamins/nutrients that the femme
>body needs in order to
>bleed, or is it just
>that my body is in
>starvation mode?
>
>//..so far, so good; I have
>eaten 5 grapes.
>
>dispatriot//
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>loyalty to the government when
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>
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294. "42 days is up on the 14th"
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Akwaaba

Oh well. The long haul's almost over.

SE wo werE fi na wosankofa a yenkyi.


PEace
solarICE

Still representin' the RED, BLACK & GREEN since 1978!
EFF RED, WHITE, & BLUE*!

Ain't a damn thing changed...

*That includes the Panamanian "dummy government setup by you know who" flag.


***Something to think about***

"if the god of these religions (judaism/christianity/islam) is not above using terrorist tactics to make people believe in Him (and what's the big deal if people do Not believe in Him? God is a egomaniac) then why wouldnt the hardcore followers of these faiths have a tendency to terrorism as well?"- yuckwheat

And one more thing:
I AM NOT UTAMAROHO AND HIS VIEWS DON'T NECESSARILY REFLECT MINE!!!

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295. "so I did end on the 26th instead of the 28th. :)"
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grin.. yeah, I guess I got kind of confused.. but it all worked out, I wanted to schedule it so it ended by the weekend, and that's exactly what's going to happen. S'ok, I don't feel like I copped out.. it's actually going to be as hard for me to start eating, it feels like, as it was to stop... I kinda got used to it!

Saturday feast so far: stuffed french toast, vegan pizza, medittarean tofu stuffed peppers, and vegan tiramisu... I want to make lots of small little dishes, we'll see..

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297. "Best to keep the diet void"
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Akwaaba

of heavy starches, nuts and seeds on the first days of a long fast. Breaking a fast properly is just as important as being on the fast. Raw fruits->vegetables-> nuts/seeds->whatever is usually the order that many fasting experts advise you begin reintorducing food into your diet. I've learned the hard way.

One time I broke a fast with Wheat THins

**puts head down in shame**

SE wo werE fi na wosankofa a yenkyi.


PEace
solarICE

Still representin' the RED, BLACK & GREEN since 1978!
EFF RED, WHITE, & BLUE*!

Ain't a damn thing changed...

*That includes the Panamanian "dummy government setup by you know who" flag.


***Something to think about***

"if the god of these religions (judaism/christianity/islam) is not above using terrorist tactics to make people believe in Him (and what's the big deal if people do Not believe in Him? God is a egomaniac) then why wouldnt the hardcore followers of these faiths have a tendency to terrorism as well?"- yuckwheat

And one more thing:
I AM NOT UTAMAROHO AND HIS VIEWS DON'T NECESSARILY REFLECT MINE!!!

____________________________
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298. "damn"
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a wheat thins?????

I broke my fast yesterday with grapes. I had grapes/sundried tomatoes/lots of leafy greens/dried veggies.

More of the same today.

Feast tomorrow.

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299. "altho"
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a clif bar sounds pretty good... bad idea??

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300. "300"
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301. "You're pretty cool."
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Akwaaba

SE wo werE fi na wosankofa a yenkyi.


PEace
solarICE

Still representin' the RED, BLACK & GREEN since 1978!
EFF RED, WHITE, & BLUE*!

Ain't a damn thing changed...

*That includes the Panamanian "dummy government setup by you know who" flag.


***Something to think about***

"if the god of these religions (judaism/christianity/islam) is not above using terrorist tactics to make people believe in Him (and what's the big deal if people do Not believe in Him? God is a egomaniac) then why wouldnt the hardcore followers of these faiths have a tendency to terrorism as well?"- yuckwheat

And one more thing:
I AM NOT UTAMAROHO AND HIS VIEWS DON'T NECESSARILY REFLECT MINE!!!

____________________________
"the real pyramids were built with such precision that you can't slide a piece of paper between two 4,000 lb stones, and have shafts perfectly aligned so that you can see a tiny aperture through dozens of these mammoth blocks

  

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302. "42nd Day- The Final Day"
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Akwaaba

It's been a long haul but it is finally over. Although I did not accomplish all of my goals for this fast, I still feel as though it was productive. Next time I won't undergo such a rigorous fast during the school year. Neverthess this fast still allowed me to reach just another level of refinement and awareness:

Less starches/cooked foods and more raw;
More attentiveness to bodily functions;
More daily stretching/meditation;
and more dedication to martial discipline.

I have a number of good recipes that I want to try out. Fasting always sparks my creativity particularly in the food/drink department, go figure... How many DC okps want to be guinea pigs?
Imma holla atcha soon.

Thanks to all the Okayfasters who participated in OkayFast Fall 2001 and to all the fasting supporters. Winter is only a few months away... WHATCHA SAY?

SE wo werE fi na wosankofa a yenkyi.


PEace
solarICE

Still representin' the RED, BLACK & GREEN since 1978!
EFF RED, WHITE, & BLUE*!

Ain't a damn thing changed...

*That includes the Panamanian "dummy government setup by you know who" flag.


***Something to think about***

"if the god of these religions (judaism/christianity/islam) is not above using terrorist tactics to make people believe in Him (and what's the big deal if people do Not believe in Him? God is a egomaniac) then why wouldnt the hardcore followers of these faiths have a tendency to terrorism as well?"- yuckwheat

And one more thing:
I AM NOT UTAMAROHO AND HIS VIEWS DON'T NECESSARILY REFLECT MINE!!!

____________________________
"the real pyramids were built with such precision that you can't slide a piece of paper between two 4,000 lb stones, and have shafts perfectly aligned so that you can see a tiny aperture through dozens of these mammoth blocks

  

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304. "Day 1 for me. Sun/12am start time"
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Beverages- water only
Food- no sweets, no red meats


Will go for about one month.

That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and beleive in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. -Romans 1

  

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305. "CONGRATS!!!"
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Yimhotep
well done to those completing in the middle of or just beginning their fast. u guys r an inspiration.
Shemhotep
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-The Book of Ptahhotep(excerpt)

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