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"Woj reporting Gasol/Odom for Chris Paul."
Thu Dec-08-11 05:53 PM by Ryan M

  

          

https://twitter.com/#!/WojYahooNBA/status/144913706302717952


Fuck that other post.

YES.

Edited: https://twitter.com/#!/WojYahooNBA/status/144915833947291649

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I was actually feeling the three way scenerio...
Dec 08th 2011
1
RE: Woj reporting Bynum/Odom for Chris Paul.
Dec 08th 2011
2
I'd prefer to keep Gasol, personally.
Dec 08th 2011
4
      RE: I'd prefer to keep Gasol, personally.
Dec 08th 2011
14
can we make this official trade thread part deux
Dec 08th 2011
3
NOPE. This shit's about to get .gif-tastic.
Dec 08th 2011
11
bynum for dwight bynum for dwight
Dec 08th 2011
5
Without Odom, I don't think they can.
Dec 08th 2011
6
      i don't think the lakers would give up pau + odom
Dec 08th 2011
7
           ^^^^
Dec 08th 2011
9
           I don't really understand how Dwight doesn't yield at least Bynum/Pau
Dec 08th 2011
13
                I'm inclined to agree.
Dec 08th 2011
16
                RE: I don't really understand how Dwight doesn't yield at least Bynum/Pa...
Dec 08th 2011
17
                this is what scares me, if this is just the first shoe to drop:
Dec 08th 2011
25
                     I don't even know how you flip Dwight without Odom or Pau + Bynum.
Dec 08th 2011
26
                          RE: I don't even know how you flip Dwight without Odom or Pau + Bynum.
Dec 08th 2011
32
                               RE: I don't even know how you flip Dwight without Odom or Pau + Bynum.
Dec 08th 2011
39
                how quickly you forget kapono
Dec 08th 2011
22
                I'm sayin. If I was them and they asked for both. They're gone
Dec 08th 2011
24
                If they get lesser value for Howard but get rid of Hedo's contract
Dec 08th 2011
35
Well, the deal kinda sucks for the Hornets
Dec 08th 2011
8
They must be planning something further.
Dec 08th 2011
10
Kajun, what would you be happy with again for the honets?
Dec 08th 2011
12
CP3 re-signing...lol.
Dec 08th 2011
20
      as a hornets fan, the taste of vomit should be familiar.
Dec 08th 2011
30
      RE: CP3 re-signing...lol.
Dec 08th 2011
45
           Two wrongs don't make a right.
Dec 08th 2011
47
                RE: Two wrongs don't make a right.
Dec 08th 2011
98
                     10,000 season tickets sold.
Dec 08th 2011
112
                          RE: 10,000 season tickets sold.
Dec 08th 2011
119
like contraction? unless they get like 5 lotto picks, this deal sucks
Dec 08th 2011
85
ESPN says Rox still talking about getting Gasol
Dec 08th 2011
15
RE: Well, the deal kinda sucks for the Hornets
Dec 08th 2011
18
I CANT KEEP UP!!! 3 Way with Houston!
Dec 08th 2011
19
RE: I CANT KEEP UP!!! 3 Way with Houston!
Dec 08th 2011
23
doesn't make sense for LA unless they can get Dwight
Dec 08th 2011
27
      RE: doesn't make sense for LA unless they can get Dwight
Dec 08th 2011
38
           lol.... i'll make sure to refference this post when dwight's a laker
Dec 08th 2011
48
           Gasol>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bynum
Dec 08th 2011
50
                but Bynum w/ CP3 might be >>>> Pau
Dec 08th 2011
315
                     nah, with Lamar out you're still Kobe/CP3, bums & Sometimey Socks
Dec 08th 2011
373
Isn't K-Mart still in China? lol
Dec 08th 2011
53
      RE: Isn't K-Mart still in China? lol
Dec 08th 2011
72
           lol, you're right, my bad, but KevMart needs another nickname
Dec 08th 2011
78
                Kwik-E-Mart?
Dec 08th 2011
88
I'm hearing Ariza is coming, too.
Dec 08th 2011
21
Ariza or Okafor have to be included to match salaries
Dec 08th 2011
37
RE: I'm hearing Ariza is coming, too.
Dec 08th 2011
41
What a horrible deal for N'Awlins
Dec 08th 2011
28
A deal for Rondo would have been better
Dec 08th 2011
52
What isn't West a free agent?
Dec 08th 2011
76
RE: What isn't West a free agent?
Dec 08th 2011
113
RE: What a horrible deal for N'Awlins
Dec 08th 2011
97
as opposed to sending him to new york?
Dec 08th 2011
108
I thought nobody wanted to play with Kobe?!!
Dec 08th 2011
173
Don't see Kupchak doing this unless something else is in the works
Dec 08th 2011
29
Mitch is up to something with Howard
Dec 08th 2011
31
The only thing that works is something like...
Dec 08th 2011
33
and? we have a long history of donkey punching teams for players
Dec 08th 2011
36
yeah pretty much, lol
Dec 08th 2011
43
that is fucking AWFUL
Dec 08th 2011
46
Beyond awful.
Dec 08th 2011
51
Then let him walk for nothing :)
Dec 08th 2011
54
      You know he pretty much CAN'T sign here, right?
Dec 08th 2011
55
      Lol yes, I'm speaking from a leverage standpoint fam
Dec 08th 2011
57
           Ahhh, got it.
Dec 08th 2011
59
           i mean if thats how it is, no wonder some owners said fuckaseason
Dec 08th 2011
60
                Agreed, and that's why I was dreading a franchise tag inclusion
Dec 08th 2011
64
      is Howard out to fuck over the Magic that badly? I'd assume
Dec 08th 2011
56
           I think the CP3 friendship/connection strengthens his resolve more
Dec 08th 2011
61
                CP3's better friends w/Chandler than D12, he doesn't even really like Ko...
Dec 08th 2011
73
                     RE: CP3's better friends w/Chandler than D12, he doesn't even really lik...
Dec 08th 2011
75
                     First, how do you know CP3 doesn't like Kobe? LOL
Dec 08th 2011
89
                     I know from an NBA player he is actually friends with he's not a big fan
Dec 08th 2011
128
                     so does this dead the chandler to the knicks thing
Dec 08th 2011
99
                          RE: so does this dead the chandler to the knicks thing
Dec 08th 2011
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And the other player we recieve from the Hornets (Ariza or Okafor)
Dec 08th 2011
49
      i wouldn't mind picking up okafor actually
Dec 08th 2011
82
considering the rumor is that dwight and cp3 want to play together
Dec 08th 2011
34
They probably already have his word
Dec 08th 2011
42
      and if that's the case Orlando might as well make a desperate trade
Dec 08th 2011
44
           Exactly, and no team will make that deal unless Howard will re-sign
Dec 08th 2011
63
                Grizzlies? lol j/k
Dec 08th 2011
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                RE: Exactly, and no team will make that deal unless Howard will re-sign
Dec 08th 2011
67
                     but who would ORL rather have? Lopez or Bynum?
Dec 08th 2011
74
                     RE: but who would ORL rather have? Lopez or Bynum?
Dec 08th 2011
79
                          Ok, yeah I'd take the NJ deal instead too
Dec 08th 2011
84
                     Deron has already said he's entering FA in the summer
Dec 08th 2011
94
                          *if* they don't land any top FA..which is why everything hinges on
Dec 08th 2011
103
                          RE: Deron has already said he's entering FA in the summer
Dec 08th 2011
109
                               ^^ what he said, Deron is just getting paid, that's all
Dec 08th 2011
116
sooooo howard is gonna end up in LA for weak ass bynum
Dec 08th 2011
40
scene fucker said its a done deal
Dec 08th 2011
58
swaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaag.
Dec 08th 2011
62
I look forward to Magic Johnson backtracking on his Heat criticism.
Dec 08th 2011
66
well it is a little different whe you have an organization putting...
Dec 08th 2011
158
CP3's team.
Dec 08th 2011
68
Does anyone follow IncarceratedBob?
Dec 08th 2011
69
Lakers getting Paul was huge but they damn near gutted their
Dec 08th 2011
70
Paul is going to make Kobe BETTER and extend his career...
Dec 08th 2011
80
      That's what you're hoping for but a Kobe Bryant @ 34 yrs of age
Dec 08th 2011
95
           having Paul means Kobe has more space to work
Dec 08th 2011
           The Mavs showed in the playoffs that you don't really have to
Dec 08th 2011
110
           eh, you just lost your best post option & passer
Dec 08th 2011
138
           yea if i were the lakers i'd be worried about my backcourt defensively
Dec 08th 2011
107
                RE: yea if i were the lakers i'd be worried about my backcourt defensive...
Dec 08th 2011
111
                     Nah, fam, he gets you stls but man on man defense is NOT his
Dec 08th 2011
114
                          ssssshhhh these dudes don't watch games.
Dec 08th 2011
122
                          RE: ssssshhhh these dudes don't watch games.
Dec 08th 2011
125
                               He falls into that Rondo/AI type defender - they get you stls but
Dec 08th 2011
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                          RE: Nah, fam, he gets you stls but man on man defense is NOT his
Dec 08th 2011
123
                               I stated that he's always had trouble w/bigger guards but I've seen
Dec 08th 2011
133
                                    RE: I stated that he's always had trouble w/bigger guards but I've seen
Dec 08th 2011
153
                                         He's an upgrade defensively over Fish but remember, it was Paul
Dec 08th 2011
162
that was the sound of me getting ready to update the 2K12 rosters, lol
Dec 08th 2011
71
right? now i can play as the lakers
Dec 08th 2011
77
sad day -- I never wanted to hate Chris Paul, but my hands are tied
Dec 08th 2011
81
yknow
Dec 08th 2011
91
Rumor: Rockets getting Pau and giving up Scola and Dragic
Dec 08th 2011
83
Good, Agendas will be revved up over this shit. cause yall know
Dec 08th 2011
86
Lamar on Stephen A show tonight
Dec 08th 2011
87
he took less money to stay in LA, so yeah, it's a business
Dec 08th 2011
96
Heard a clip, you can hear the devastation and confusion in his voice
Dec 08th 2011
104
yeah.. heard that clip too
Dec 08th 2011
117
I feel for him.
Dec 08th 2011
105
it's just business.
Dec 08th 2011
115
y'all know I was the biggest L.O. defender on here but fuck'em...
Dec 08th 2011
124
he might the only dude oblivious enough to be surprised by this
Dec 08th 2011
132
I can't wait for my ride home, Stephen A been KILLING IT this week!
Dec 08th 2011
136
:( I'mma mss LO
Dec 08th 2011
141
yea, he had a favorite beach AND a favorite candy store
Dec 08th 2011
152
on what medium is this show broadcast?
Dec 08th 2011
160
      710 ESPN, listen live here (Stephen A starts at 6 Pacific):
Dec 08th 2011
190
           damn, that dude is devestated as fock!
Dec 08th 2011
236
also, question: can't the other 27 owners vote yay or nay on this deal?
Dec 08th 2011
90
smh/lol
Dec 09th 2011
660
Thanks, Lamar and Pau nm
Dec 08th 2011
92
oh boy..if the lakers do not sign howard...
Dec 08th 2011
93
Yeah, and they can't sign him.
Dec 08th 2011
118
Much respect and thanks to Pau and Lamar. 2 rings.
Dec 08th 2011
100
Thank you, Lamar and Pau.
Dec 08th 2011
102
Agreed
Dec 08th 2011
126
Co-sign...they won 2 rings here... they won't be forgotten....
Dec 08th 2011
170
what in the name of god is going on Houston?!
Dec 08th 2011
106
reports are moreys trading scola, kmart, dragic to get pau and 13 mill
Dec 08th 2011
121
      Yeah, they can raise their offer to Nene now
Dec 08th 2011
151
      nene --what a fuckin Joke
Dec 08th 2011
182
After cooling down, not sure I love it for the Lakers
Dec 08th 2011
120
yea it was subtraction by addition lol
Dec 08th 2011
127
trying to talk myself into that, but look @ rosters CP3 been floating
Dec 08th 2011
146
Some of ya'll need to apologize to Chris Broussard
Dec 08th 2011
129
for what?
Dec 08th 2011
137
He was reporting that CP3 wasn't going to be traded by Friday
Dec 08th 2011
139
      Ya'll skoffed when he said LA was going after
Dec 08th 2011
140
           please, his bullshit 'report' was so vague it was meaningless
Dec 08th 2011
148
           I knew I shouldnt have said anything.
Dec 08th 2011
161
                he said 'they'd explore trading for both of them', what is concrete
Dec 08th 2011
193
                     What?
Dec 08th 2011
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                          uh, yeah, anyone with a brain knew they were gonna 'explore' that
Dec 08th 2011
268
                               So why was no one else reporting that until he did?
Dec 08th 2011
282
                                    maybe because it was an essentially meaningless story
Dec 08th 2011
322
           People scoffed because EVERYONE WAS GOING AFTER CP3 AND DWIGHT!
Dec 08th 2011
150
Will soft ass Mike Brown be able to handle the egos?
Dec 08th 2011
130
I like that you believe Bynum actually "thinks"
Dec 08th 2011
131
      No
Dec 08th 2011
260
we might be getting 2 Trade Exceptions too. one worth $8.9 mil
Dec 08th 2011
135
this means they have 8.9mil in cash to throw in a trade
Dec 08th 2011
154
we'll be using that to eat either Gil or Turks contract....
Dec 08th 2011
183
Every few years when you see drastic basketball landscape
Dec 08th 2011
142
if the lakers were to get dwight
Dec 08th 2011
143
it's almost like the NBA is making moves specifically to have it happen....
Dec 08th 2011
149
yeah, or, you know, the exact opposite
Dec 08th 2011
352
it wouldn't be epic. it would be a 4-0 laker victory.
Dec 08th 2011
164
well that would be epic to me
Dec 08th 2011
178
it would be Knicks in 6 vs LA in finals
Dec 08th 2011
177
RE: Woj reporting Gasol/Odom for Chris Paul.
Dec 08th 2011
144
vlade for kobe seemed to work out
Dec 08th 2011
145
lol Vlade lol
Dec 08th 2011
155
Unless the small brings a big...
Dec 08th 2011
147
      RE: Unless the small brings a big...
Dec 08th 2011
157
           yea they traded two of the leagues biggest match up problems for
Dec 08th 2011
159
                those matchup problems were looking great while we got swept..
Dec 08th 2011
163
                RE: those matchup problems were looking great while we got swept..
Dec 08th 2011
167
                I really believe that had more to do w/fatigue than the 4-0 sweep
Dec 08th 2011
171
                RE: yea they traded two of the leagues biggest match up problems for
Dec 08th 2011
165
                     i thought the trade to get pau was the worst trade ever?
Dec 08th 2011
176
                     RE: i thought the trade to get pau was the worst trade ever?
Dec 08th 2011
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                     RE: yea they traded two of the leagues biggest match up problems for
Dec 08th 2011
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                          RE: yea they traded two of the leagues biggest match up problems for
Dec 08th 2011
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                               RE: yea they traded two of the leagues biggest match up problems for
Dec 08th 2011
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I'm ready to start up my Lakers hate wagon
Dec 08th 2011
156
^ SCARED TO DEATH, SCARED TO LOOK ^
Dec 08th 2011
174
lol y'all talking about howard
Dec 08th 2011
166
^ YA SHOOK ^
Dec 08th 2011
180
lol. yeah, player, i'm great right now
Dec 08th 2011
196
why not though? you really think the lakers would basically gut their
Dec 08th 2011
181
the Lakers could ask Kris Humphries to get paid nearly no money
Dec 08th 2011
168
*sly grin*
Dec 08th 2011
169
lol, then watch Bynum go down again and Kobe has to play center.
Dec 08th 2011
172
LOL @ us getting just pau
Dec 08th 2011
175
Well, when Brooks gets back from China, lol
Dec 08th 2011
194
HAHAHAHA all this hate BEFORE Dwight, this shit gonna be GREAT
Dec 08th 2011
184
lose in the 1st round in a down year for the western conference?
Dec 08th 2011
188
RE: Woj reporting Gasol/Odom for Chris Paul.
Dec 08th 2011
185
Howard has to be willing to agree to a sign and trade
Dec 08th 2011
192
      they don't get it man... No team is taking CP3 w/o knowing he'll
Dec 08th 2011
214
this a whole new team, man.
Dec 08th 2011
187
damn. well... shit.
Dec 08th 2011
189
REPORTING THIS DEAL MIGHT NOT BE GOING THRU NOW
Dec 08th 2011
195
WOJO REPORTING IT TOO
Dec 08th 2011
197
Mason & Ireland were having an on-air party, an intern brings a memo in
Dec 08th 2011
202
      post the mp3 right. now.
Dec 08th 2011
206
           you might be able to get it here but Stephen A preachin now:
Dec 08th 2011
210
                this nigga Odom sounds like Jay when he heard Ether
Dec 08th 2011
225
                     lmao!! this nigga soundin like Khloe took the Bentley back
Dec 08th 2011
235
                     he is somewhere nearby puffing a smoke-filled sigh of relief
Dec 08th 2011
247
                     jay lost
Dec 08th 2011
254
ESPN is reporting Lakers said 'Wait a minute'
Dec 08th 2011
201
Shit is very New York Knicks getting the top pick-ish
Dec 08th 2011
205
Woj say the rest of the owners mad!!!
Dec 08th 2011
198
on what grounds?
Dec 08th 2011
199
      They own the team.
Dec 08th 2011
203
      I know that but what's the issue with the trade
Dec 08th 2011
204
           Yeah, it's bullshit if they don't let it through
Dec 08th 2011
211
      IDK it isnt like the NBA didnt make the trade
Dec 08th 2011
213
           they mastered the "being in Hollywood with NBA's marquee brand" market
Dec 09th 2011
672
HAHAHAHAHA WHAT NOW LAKERS FAN?
Dec 08th 2011
200
increases the likelihood of them getting a player i'm actually scared o...
Dec 08th 2011
212
      i know, but i'm still going to celebrate the lakers looking dumb
Dec 08th 2011
218
           Lakers fans know the ownership will do whatever it takes
Dec 08th 2011
380
everybody, Stephen's 710 show is gonna be epic (link):
Dec 08th 2011
207
lamar is going to be absolutely worthless this season.
Dec 08th 2011
215
that shit was hilarious
Dec 09th 2011
659
Stein says deal is already off the table.
Dec 08th 2011
208
HAHAHAHA STEINY MO SAYS IT'S OFF
Dec 08th 2011
209
http://i44.tinypic.com/1zf3mu0.png
Dec 08th 2011
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RE: HAHAHAHA STEINY MO SAYS IT'S OFF
Dec 08th 2011
222
Thank God it snowed ...
Dec 08th 2011
228
this saga alone makes me so glad the NBA is back
Dec 08th 2011
216
lol, right
Dec 08th 2011
224
I got no dog in the fight when it comes to the NBA, but I'd love...
Dec 08th 2011
219
RE: I got no dog in the fight when it comes to the NBA, but I'd love...
Dec 08th 2011
250
You already know it was Pop and the Spurs
Dec 08th 2011
275
      damn they stay in your head
Dec 08th 2011
332
real talk: this is the equivalent of a lame fantasy veto
Dec 08th 2011
221
this shit is gay. straight up.
Dec 08th 2011
226
i don't know that you were going to win. you gave up a LOT.
Dec 08th 2011
234
      nah, Howard's gotta be Bynum & Gasol, you can't justify
Dec 08th 2011
242
           I almost want Lakers to deal Pau/Socks to Howard. "Fuck All Y'All!"
Dec 08th 2011
261
pretty much, I don't think on its face it was that great a trade for LA
Dec 08th 2011
237
As a certified laker hater: this is bullshit
Dec 08th 2011
324
@CP3: WoW
Dec 08th 2011
223
Owners killed it and we backed out due to not getting a big back
Dec 08th 2011
227
and Im glad. Gasol straight up is what I would have done
Dec 08th 2011
267
I'm actually surprised NO didn't try to move Okafor's contract in the de...
Dec 08th 2011
283
      I think either he or Ariza were going to be part of the deal...
Dec 08th 2011
man, I'm sitting here listening to the replay of Lamar's interview
Dec 08th 2011
229
MAN FUCK THAT BITCH
Dec 08th 2011
291
oh well..was fun while it lasted....
Dec 08th 2011
230
The Kardashians and Ryan Seacrest killed the deal.
Dec 08th 2011
231
If this trade doesn't go through, he better not get traded at all
Dec 08th 2011
232
I agree
Dec 08th 2011
240
League trying to spin it that Lakers stepped away
Dec 08th 2011
245
agreed.
Dec 08th 2011
251
seems like that's gonna be the case, I actually kinda want this trade
Dec 08th 2011
264
*still sees 5 rings for #24* *sees zero rings for OKS's favorite savior...
Dec 08th 2011
233
*sees a laker fan who seemsd PRETTY MAD!!!*
Dec 08th 2011
239
      so we won't win our 3rd ring in 4 years?
Dec 08th 2011
244
      Not actually. I'm amused at all the pussification I see in here, though.
Dec 08th 2011
246
haha - owners some haters... lololololol
Dec 08th 2011
238
Basa just said it best on twitter
Dec 08th 2011
243
hahahaha - FIYAH!!!
Dec 08th 2011
249
RE: Basa just said it best on twitter
Dec 08th 2011
253
http://www.mclol.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/pimped-out-chappelle1.jp...
Dec 08th 2011
271
Lakers fans: We'll take Odom and send you Phil E. Moose
Dec 08th 2011
241
http://youtu.be/7d_ToCL9nSY
Dec 08th 2011
259
Looks like the Knicks won
Dec 08th 2011
248
http://i44.tinypic.com/wainic.jpg
Dec 08th 2011
257
what's to stop the owners from veto'ing EVERY cp3 trade?
Dec 08th 2011
252
after this debacle, they have to
Dec 08th 2011
258
Yep. Plus, who besides NY would want an "I should be LA" CP3?
Dec 08th 2011
263
they should have voted for the franchise tag if they were gonna do this
Dec 08th 2011
277
We're fucked. nm
Dec 08th 2011
255
huh? I'm still fine with this team as currently constructed
Dec 08th 2011
262
Cause now we have 2 mentally soft players
Dec 09th 2011
522
      See, here's the thing with Pau and LO
Dec 09th 2011
538
Why? You think Paul and Lamar are going to play like bitches? lol
Dec 08th 2011
286
      yes.
Dec 09th 2011
436
Media Day at laker's facility tomorrow should be interesting
Dec 08th 2011
265
WTF?
Dec 08th 2011
266
Haha, I'm glad I got to read your post though before u edited
Dec 08th 2011
279
NBA owners some straight up hoes for this.
Dec 08th 2011
269
pretty much sums it up
Dec 08th 2011
270
GMs now standing up for Demps. This shit is amazing.
Dec 08th 2011
274
Otis Smith should hop on the phone right quick.
Dec 08th 2011
272
My gawd I hate preseason trades and Broussardisms.
Dec 08th 2011
273
Woj's tweets are veeeeeeeeeeeery interesting
Dec 08th 2011
276
I have a feeling they leaked the block for PR & this trade still happens
Dec 08th 2011
280
So the league would rather the Hornets get nothing when Paul walks?
Dec 08th 2011
278
RE: Woj reporting Gasol/Odom for Chris Paul.
Dec 08th 2011
281
Well, Feel Jackson called it
Dec 08th 2011
284
feel seeing the future on some zen shit
Dec 08th 2011
287
RE: Woj reporting Gasol/Odom for Chris Paul.
Dec 08th 2011
285
Jordan Still Ruining Title Chances
Dec 08th 2011
288
lol, MJ didnt want Kobe to get 6
Dec 08th 2011
300
I guarantee he was one of the bitch owners
Dec 08th 2011
333
does this tweet make any sense?
Dec 08th 2011
289
It's pure spin by the NBA
Dec 08th 2011
295
      BURN STERN!!! BURN!!!
Dec 08th 2011
297
      has anyone ruled out the Lakers realize they couldn't get D12
Dec 08th 2011
375
           we haven't ruled out you grasping at straws
Dec 08th 2011
424
                k
Dec 09th 2011
477
LOL...somebody in GD said CP3 sittin in front of his computer...
Dec 08th 2011
290
lol
Dec 08th 2011
292
Wait I THOUGHT DAVE STERN WAS A FAVORITIST FOR THE LAKERS?!?!?!?!
Dec 08th 2011
293
UH OH - AGENDA DEATH!!!
Dec 09th 2011
557
      ^^^ Perceptive Peepers
Dec 09th 2011
618
RE: Woj reporting Gasol/Odom for Chris Paul.
Dec 08th 2011
294
hate that the league did this / love watching Laker fans CRY
Dec 08th 2011
296
who's crying?
Dec 08th 2011
402
can we get a link to Lamar's reaction?
Dec 08th 2011
298
Bucher now adding that Gasol wanted no part of Houston
Dec 08th 2011
299
lol, who gives a fuck what he wanted?
Dec 08th 2011
303
If Paul winds up in NY we'll know the league is fixed, lol
Dec 08th 2011
305
RE: Bucher now adding that Gasol wanted no part of Houston
Dec 08th 2011
RE: Bucher now adding that Gasol wanted no part of Houston
Dec 08th 2011
307
CP3 got a lawyer.. he gonna fight! GOOD!!! HAHAHAHA!!!
Dec 08th 2011
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GOOD
Dec 08th 2011
308
What's there to fight...the deal wasn't signed....
Dec 08th 2011
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      NOPE! LAWYERS!
Dec 08th 2011
319
      the GM was making the deal.. the league went over their head..
Dec 08th 2011
331
           the league OWNS teh team, they can go over his head on any issue
Dec 08th 2011
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                which is an obvious conflict on interest...
Dec 08th 2011
343
                     better call saul!
Dec 08th 2011
347
                     ha ha.
Dec 09th 2011
434
                     uh, no, the league can do whatever they want with that team
Dec 08th 2011
376
@mccannsportslaw gives good info on this stuff, says CP3 case is iffy
Dec 09th 2011
447
CP3 not reporting to camp, Dell Demps (Hornets GM) might quit...
Dec 08th 2011
302
RE: CP3 not reporting to camp, Dell Demps (Hornets GM) might quit...
Dec 08th 2011
318
      My problem is them suddenly wanting to get involved when...
Dec 08th 2011
326
NBA: Greatest OKP sport?
Dec 08th 2011
304
well, and then we have moments like this that unite us
Dec 08th 2011
311
DAVID STERN JUST STOLE ON CHRIS PAUL!!!!
Dec 08th 2011
313
I just think the best arguments happen during NBA posts....
Dec 08th 2011
317
I think the league is corny, but I'm loving the Lakers fans' indignation
Dec 08th 2011
339
      Of course!!!!!!!!!!
Dec 09th 2011
566
hell I want to start an agenda just to get in on this, lol
Dec 08th 2011
345
In that you have a 500+ post about a player's ego? sure.
Dec 09th 2011
576
chris broussard reporting CP3 has contacted Billy Hunter
Dec 08th 2011
306
Fuck it, lets go after D-Will, I'm sure Paul wants to be reunited with.....
Dec 08th 2011
309
these assholes need to figure this out before my fantasy drafts
Dec 08th 2011
310
i know. cp3 without kobe=top pick, cp3 with kobe=not top 10
Dec 08th 2011
316
      cmon, NBA better...
Dec 08th 2011
320
can't wait for celery to defend the homowners
Dec 08th 2011
314
if we had the rule of law in this country, owners would be in jail
Dec 08th 2011
335
bad business for NO to trade Paul *shrugs*
Dec 08th 2011
417
      its worse to keep him when theres 0% chance of him staying
Dec 09th 2011
431
           only true if you have a long-term stake in the team, NBA wants to sell
Dec 09th 2011
433
                i highly doubt the gates will do well even if they keep cp3
Dec 09th 2011
458
                ticket sales don't correlate directly to Ws + Ls
Dec 09th 2011
464
                no one's paying good money for a hornets team that'll lose cp3 in 66 gam...
Dec 09th 2011
459
wojo just broke the new leading suitor for paul on twitter
Dec 08th 2011
321
they're trading the moose? damn. just signed him.
Dec 08th 2011
327
      phil knows it's a cold business. that's how he's made it thus far
Dec 08th 2011
330
i'm jus glad this didn't happen with a knick trade
Dec 08th 2011
323
MMMMMAAAAANNNNN!!!!!!!
Dec 08th 2011
348
Oh jeez, Wojo on Stern's rationale. Can we say "Plantation Mentality?"
Dec 08th 2011
325
When he's a free agent in a few months he'll dictate that anyway
Dec 08th 2011
329
yup if anyone can attest to this..
Dec 08th 2011
358
then get a franchise player tag dumb asses! - lolololol
Dec 08th 2011
334
Fuck, go away already
Dec 08th 2011
336
so this lockout was for nothing then
Dec 08th 2011
338
owners got their money. they obv don't have attn span for day to day.
Dec 08th 2011
344
all they did was take $ back from the players, it was a total failure
Dec 08th 2011
420
Absolutely ridiculous, esp considering a new CBA was just ratified
Dec 08th 2011
342
      THANK YOU BASED LA2PHILLY!!
Dec 08th 2011
349
      RE: Absolutely ridiculous, esp considering a new CBA was just ratified
Dec 08th 2011
351
      except, that wasn't the deal.
Dec 08th 2011
354
      and also VERY foreseeable
Dec 08th 2011
356
      huh? We gave up Pau AND Lamar
Dec 08th 2011
369
           RE: huh? We gave up Pau AND Lamar
Dec 08th 2011
385
      It's because the lockout was always about money first and foremost
Dec 08th 2011
406
This.is.awesomeeeeeeeeeeeee
Dec 08th 2011
328
odom
Dec 08th 2011
337
Picturing him tweeting that out with that suit and a sadface
Dec 08th 2011
355
o for fucks sake
Dec 08th 2011
357
luckily, he's a guy who doesn't let emotions affect his play
Dec 08th 2011
360
i fucking love lamar odom
Dec 08th 2011
361
as i said he's going to be fucking useless this season.
Dec 08th 2011
367
Dec 08th 2011
401
      smh lol
Dec 09th 2011
480
lolz stern brandishing the white hammer of ether
Dec 08th 2011
340
David Stern's reactions WITH PICTURES
Dec 08th 2011
346
GASOL FOR KWAME = OK, GASOL FOR PAUL...FUCK NO!!!
Dec 08th 2011
350
lol
Dec 08th 2011
353
you took the words right from my mouth
Dec 08th 2011
366
but if that's the case, veto the howard for bynum deal
Dec 08th 2011
381
^ ^ ^ ^
Dec 09th 2011
578
Stern is Willie Mays on the Mets
Dec 08th 2011
359
lol jasonwhitlock with the snark
Dec 08th 2011
362
http://www.gifflix.com/files/e4a74b52a819.gif
Dec 08th 2011
387
Fukk David Stern and them bitch ass owners.....
Dec 08th 2011
363
this is incorrect
Dec 08th 2011
365
RE: this is incorrect
Dec 08th 2011
379
This TOO is incorrect
Dec 08th 2011
392
David Stern needs to be fired seriously.
Dec 08th 2011
364
fired by whom?
Dec 08th 2011
386
      The Jews.
Dec 08th 2011
393
      Joe Rogan
Dec 09th 2011
445
Where was Stern when the Wizards
Dec 08th 2011
368
Unbelievable
Dec 08th 2011
370
yes, because the league has so egregiously mistreated the lakers
Dec 08th 2011
384
actually...NO player should report tommorow over this...
Dec 08th 2011
371
completely agree w. this
Dec 08th 2011
382
Chris Paul: Call me CP99% from now on!
Dec 08th 2011
372
Russ Granik (dep commissoner for 16 years) was just on ESPN
Dec 08th 2011
374
i would just like to hear the actual rational for the 'basketball reason...
Dec 08th 2011
378
This deal was the first step man...I'm almost positive
Dec 08th 2011
394
Donaghy doesn't seem so crazy now, does he?
Dec 08th 2011
383
dude it's obvious what happened here
Dec 08th 2011
388
reaction=best ratings since mj left. gee, how awful.
Dec 08th 2011
390
      He's right. the owners bitched about a small team to big team deal
Dec 08th 2011
399
           so if they sell the team before next July, it's good biz for them
Dec 08th 2011
426
                so the guy buying the team & fans won't know CP3 is leaving? - lol
Dec 09th 2011
563
                     smaller wage bill, better revenue even if you lose CP3 as a FA
Dec 09th 2011
625
RE: Russ Granik (dep commissoner for 16 years) was just on ESPN
Dec 08th 2011
391
damn....
Dec 08th 2011
377
RE: damn....
Dec 08th 2011
419
Wojo: NBA may have changed forever tonight
Dec 08th 2011
389
Oz is a little man behind the curtain named David
Dec 08th 2011
396
Y'all already know what it is
Dec 08th 2011
408
nah, that happened during the lockout, this is the continuation
Dec 08th 2011
425
Laker Fans posting real Winkelvoss Twins right now n/m
Dec 08th 2011
395
For real, I'm kind of torn here
Dec 08th 2011
409
laker haters posting real david stern/league owners right now.
Dec 08th 2011
421
o stfu dude
Dec 09th 2011
429
LOL, seriously.
Dec 09th 2011
481
Well me and kajun were wrong, stern had all the leverage lol
Dec 08th 2011
397
L.O. vigorously discusses tonight's events with vigor (swipe)
Dec 08th 2011
398
someone needs to give this dude the slap/shake Johnny Fontaine got
Dec 08th 2011
400
This dude really to stfu and just sleep on it
Dec 08th 2011
404
mitch:
Dec 08th 2011
403
Absolutely ridiculous
Dec 08th 2011
407
pau:
Dec 08th 2011
405
at least that's an indirect assessment, Lamar sounding like he's ready
Dec 08th 2011
411
This is pure gold!!!
Dec 08th 2011
418
Just talked to Pau at Spectrum (Redondo Beach)...
Dec 08th 2011
413
confirmed, lakers were just getting started
Dec 08th 2011
410
david west?
Dec 08th 2011
412
      That was the rumor I was hearing....additional sign and trade
Dec 08th 2011
414
and honestly...I don't even like the trade....
Dec 08th 2011
415
David Stern just ruined basketball smh
Dec 08th 2011
416
RE: David Stern just ruined basketball smh
Dec 08th 2011
422
shortened off-season has left the league in chaos, this is the result
Dec 09th 2011
427
Yahoo bringing that ether.
Dec 08th 2011
423
And it's all 100% true
Dec 09th 2011
428
yup, I hate the Lakers, but I don't disagree, this is sad
Dec 09th 2011
DEM FACTS
Dec 09th 2011
555
Soooo basically we get 2 talented but emotionally fragile players
Dec 09th 2011
430
This shit really just makes this season some bullshit for me now
Dec 09th 2011
432
it's like the dysfunction in the lockout is a pattern, not just a 1-off
Dec 09th 2011
435
i didn't even really like that trade
Dec 09th 2011
438
      I didn't think it was going to make us the favorites without another
Dec 09th 2011
442
2 double double forwards and a 20 point scorer plus picks
Dec 09th 2011
437
too bad stats + ticket sales don't align so easily
Dec 09th 2011
440
Cavs owner wanted trade blocked *swipe*
Dec 09th 2011
439
.
Dec 09th 2011
443
wow, another dan gilbert letter
Dec 09th 2011
441
That's that good hate right there. To be quite honest with you
Dec 09th 2011
446
i dont agree on the salary cap
Dec 09th 2011
451
I meant as far as the positive for the lakers. I hadn't considered that
Dec 09th 2011
456
true, and i think it was obvious the lakers needed to make more moves
Dec 09th 2011
462
But it only saves the Lakers for a year or so
Dec 09th 2011
467
he's saying the deal hurts the interests of the 28 other owners = true
Dec 09th 2011
461
      that is the shortsighted way to look at it
Dec 09th 2011
463
           let's be frank -- this deal might have meant millions to Gilbert himself
Dec 09th 2011
465
                luxury tax = choice
Dec 09th 2011
469
                     but if you own the trading partner, yes, yes you can force the Lakers
Dec 09th 2011
482
                          That argument goes for ANY trade that New Orleans wants to do
Dec 09th 2011
484
                               right, which is why NBA owning NOH is inherently problematic lol
Dec 09th 2011
486
                                    and why they shouldn't have given the OKAY to shop CP3
Dec 09th 2011
494
                                         agreed, but now the mistake is made, so now what?
Dec 09th 2011
623
                                              they need to own up to it
Dec 09th 2011
652
fuck that and fuck him. he can't have it both ways.
Dec 09th 2011
453
damn, will this CBA even last 6 yrs? owners still deeply fractured
Dec 09th 2011
448
dan gilbert is a faggot.
Dec 09th 2011
449
I will not argue with this point; he's fully earned that title now.
Dec 09th 2011
574
Well no shit, we were giving up two excellent players for 1
Dec 09th 2011
450
Dude got two late first round picks for LeBron fucking James
Dec 09th 2011
457
Gotdamn, that was whiny as fuck
Dec 09th 2011
468
haha just like the letters i get in the fantasy baseball league
Dec 09th 2011
470
PLEASE ADVISE....
Dec 09th 2011
554
THIS motherfucker... man: he's officially Larry Dolan status now
Dec 09th 2011
571
each day that goes by, bron looks like less of a dick
Dec 09th 2011
611
each day the housing bubble & economic collapse makes more sense
Dec 09th 2011
638
not to mention a total disconnect between value + price (yeah, JJ, you)
Dec 09th 2011
663
NOPE.
Dec 10th 2011
687
      *wraps yellow tape around their failed 'I Don't Blame Bron' agenda*
Dec 10th 2011
690
why wasn't this in its original font?
Dec 09th 2011
613
good job by Stern.. Lakers dont deserve more all stars
Dec 09th 2011
444
enjoy your overpaid center and power forward with a bad back
Dec 09th 2011
455
      keep crying dude.. for once you don't get your way...
Dec 09th 2011
582
and now D12 supposedly gonna ask for a trade to NJ
Dec 09th 2011
452
league doesn't own Orlando, they don't have a stake in that decision
Dec 09th 2011
454
doesnt matter, commish can veto any trade
Dec 09th 2011
460
      but it isn't precedent setting, because New Orleans is a unique case
Dec 09th 2011
466
           thats bullshit. this trade helped new orleans
Dec 09th 2011
473
                Seriously did anyone watch the Cavs last year?
Dec 09th 2011
475
                Dan Gilbert fucked himself, not himself + 27 other equal partners
Dec 09th 2011
479
                     And? Shouldn't he have been the one saying, "Look, it may be bad..."
Dec 09th 2011
491
                this got canceled b/c of $$, not b/c of the talent involved
Dec 09th 2011
478
                     Not according to Stern and the owners
Dec 09th 2011
492
                     cmon, stop eating the owner's BS
Dec 09th 2011
493
                          he's like a fat kid with his mouth agape beneath the soft serve machine
Dec 09th 2011
499
                          but the chocolate ice cream has been replaced with poo
Dec 09th 2011
520
                          why is recognizing owners' motivation eating their BS?
Dec 09th 2011
621
                               whats their investment going to look like when CP3 walks out
Dec 09th 2011
653
                                    smaller payroll, better '10-11 revenue #s, better investment value
Dec 09th 2011
664
What perfect timing!
Dec 09th 2011
472
Kenny Smith: Dan Gilbert rollin' in his grave right now!
Dec 09th 2011
471
Hunter should get players to boycott signing with the Hornets
Dec 09th 2011
474
owners can also shoot down any deal that improves NO.
Dec 09th 2011
476
I'm with the owners on this one.
Dec 09th 2011
483
They hurt a small market team even more by not letting the market
Dec 09th 2011
487
RE: They hurt a small market team even more by not letting the market
Dec 09th 2011
496
how do you know?
Dec 09th 2011
497
      Because they pulled the trigger on it?
Dec 09th 2011
500
           So the only team Paul will play for is the Lakers? Yeah ok.
Dec 09th 2011
503
                That's how your deductive reasoning works?
Dec 09th 2011
504
                     You're the one that said it, not me.
Dec 09th 2011
507
                     I said that was probably the BEST deal. Where did you get ONLY?
Dec 09th 2011
510
                          he pulled it out of his ass. it's a habit.
Dec 09th 2011
514
                          your dickhead behavior is bad enough in wrestling threads.
Dec 09th 2011
521
                          You said "if Paul isn't willing to sign an extension" with other teams.
Dec 09th 2011
518
                               Jesus Christ you're an idiot.
Dec 09th 2011
526
                               Jesus has nothing to do with your feeble-mindedness.
Dec 09th 2011
529
                                    You're hilarious. I thought this was a serious debate at first.
Dec 09th 2011
532
                                         should have listened to me
Dec 09th 2011
655
                               he made it clear that he wouldn't sign an extention with other teams
Dec 09th 2011
614
                     yes. that actually exactly how his reasoning works
Dec 09th 2011
511
                          LOL
Dec 09th 2011
517
fuck that. i hope the hornets lose CP3 for nothing and FUCKING FOLD
Dec 09th 2011
489
fine with me.
Dec 09th 2011
498
      the deal they got was far from "demolishing"
Dec 09th 2011
501
      Paul is that entire franchise. They had nothing else on that roster.
Dec 09th 2011
505
           as usual, you're using hyperbole and you're flat out WRONG
Dec 09th 2011
                yeah, because the 09-10 season didn't happen.
Dec 09th 2011
527
      The hornets were not being demolished
Dec 09th 2011
506
      the deal would've made them BETTER and kept them competitive
Dec 09th 2011
513
So losing Chris Paul for nothing helps New Orleans compete?
Dec 09th 2011
490
They won't lose Paul for nothing.
Dec 09th 2011
502
      you understand that CP3's contract is over after this season right?
Dec 09th 2011
509
           yup. And he'll be traded before then.
Dec 09th 2011
512
                wat? you really dont understand any of this do you? lol
Dec 09th 2011
516
                He thought Paul was threatening to hold out all year like football. LOL
Dec 09th 2011
523
                I understand completely. The problem is, you don't.
Dec 09th 2011
528
                     LOL You are lost as shit.
Dec 09th 2011
530
                smh
Dec 09th 2011
539
                     the very same reason the Lakers attempted a trade today.
Dec 09th 2011
543
                          This is ridiculous
Dec 09th 2011
546
                          If he simply wanted more money he could resign in Nawlins - lololol
Dec 09th 2011
561
bullshit... you build the mechanism to protect small market teams
Dec 09th 2011
556
I'm too blind in Lakers hate to see the bad news here
Dec 09th 2011
485
Granger 33: I'm changing my name to Stern's Bitch
Dec 09th 2011
488
stern wont dare fine him tho lol. well played granger.
Dec 09th 2011
495
Sidenote: Am I the only one who sees the Lakers WANT to dump Lamar & Dre...
Dec 09th 2011
508
Jim Buss loves Bynum. He won't be moved for anybody but Howard.
Dec 09th 2011
515
loveD
Dec 09th 2011
525
      DH is the #1 center in the league. Every center is tradeable for him.
Dec 09th 2011
531
           I am a Magic fan. I agree.
Dec 09th 2011
534
           oh, and a second sidenote:
Dec 09th 2011
536
                Griffin isn't a center, DeAndre Jordan play C for the Clippers
Dec 09th 2011
542
                     furthermore, I'd trade Blake for Dwight
Dec 09th 2011
544
                     but would the Clips?
Dec 09th 2011
547
                     you're right, I fucked up
Dec 09th 2011
545
da fuck? bynum, odumb and pau are our only tradeable assets
Dec 09th 2011
519
      OR you keep the core that won you 2 rings
Dec 09th 2011
524
           ...and got swept in the Conference Semis.
Dec 09th 2011
533
                thank you for helping make my point
Dec 09th 2011
535
                     lol - they don't want to blow it up...
Dec 09th 2011
558
                          time will tell
Dec 09th 2011
637
the NBA is one bad soap opera
Dec 09th 2011
537
Pretty much
Dec 09th 2011
540
Shit gets even realer, ESPN radio is speculating a Kardashian influence
Dec 09th 2011
541
nothing good has ever come of the phrase "ESPN is speculating"
Dec 09th 2011
548
      True and as I said I don't believe it
Dec 09th 2011
549
      ok, I see what you're saying
Dec 09th 2011
550
      funny. that was the first thing i thought of
Dec 09th 2011
551
      Simmons been dissing them on the low for about 3 years now
Dec 09th 2011
552
           I think it's the TV stuff that keeps him around
Dec 09th 2011
553
You know who loses the most in this???? Mike Brown
Dec 09th 2011
559
also, just in terms of running an offense
Dec 09th 2011
560
      Yup...oh well, guess NO has to send him to the Knicks now
Dec 09th 2011
562
LAKER HATE IS LEAGUE WIDE!!!! YOU SEE IT!!!!!!!!!!!
Dec 09th 2011
564
Please, this was about Arn Tellem fucking over Leon Rose.
Dec 09th 2011
565
Schadenfreude!!!
Dec 09th 2011
567
From the outside looking in, meaning I'm a casual NBA fan...
Dec 09th 2011
568
players need to go back on strike
Dec 09th 2011
569
No they don't.
Dec 09th 2011
570
if there is a demand for their services in a city they want to be in
Dec 09th 2011
572
      uh...not quite
Dec 09th 2011
658
They were never on strike to begin with
Dec 09th 2011
583
      thank you.
Dec 09th 2011
594
are laker fans serious in here?? we just came off a dam lockout
Dec 09th 2011
573
wow, you're dense
Dec 09th 2011
584
It's hilarious how they're telling us how we should react to this
Dec 09th 2011
615
i was relieved the deal got nixed, i was enraged when i found out why
Dec 09th 2011
622
shutcho dickridin ass up..did u even follow the lockout?
Dec 09th 2011
633
Then why not negotiate for a franchise tag in the new CBA?
Dec 09th 2011
667
The Atlantic weighs in
Dec 09th 2011
575
what a complete clusterfuck.
Dec 09th 2011
579
that sums it up pretty much perfectly
Dec 09th 2011
581
basically...
Dec 09th 2011
587
http://i44.tinypic.com/abrrs0.jpg
Dec 09th 2011
577
ya know what..i'm all for contraction now.
Dec 09th 2011
580
That's the worst part of this. The NBA outbid Ellison for the Hornets!
Dec 09th 2011
585
LOL @ Stern now trying to convince owner to OK deal
Dec 09th 2011
586
this is gonna end up going through
Dec 09th 2011
588
Yep. Stern acted before thinking here. He'll let it go through.
Dec 09th 2011
589
He acted before thinking but it's not up to him
Dec 09th 2011
591
      but under the hornets structure, the NBA owners should not interfere
Dec 09th 2011
610
      and they'll stand by the idiocy cuz they see it as their $$ on the line
Dec 09th 2011
626
yeah, how the eff will the hornets trade CP now?
Dec 09th 2011
608
it has to. the other options are collusion and killing NOLA basketball
Dec 09th 2011
612
Agreed, Stern will OK the appeal, knowing he fucked up...n/m
Dec 09th 2011
632
not sure why ppl are surprised or mad the trade was rejected
Dec 09th 2011
590
all that 'could' be well and good if the league informed N.o. and demps
Dec 09th 2011
592
the only mistake really was the deal being "completed" and really
Dec 09th 2011
595
      no..the owners and nba need to let him know what parameters
Dec 09th 2011
597
           he has to act in the best interest of his team....like every other GM
Dec 09th 2011
605
                what are the best interest of the team?
Dec 09th 2011
609
                letting free agents walk for nothing is not in the best interest of
Dec 09th 2011
620
cap space to sign who? no one wants to play in N.O.
Dec 09th 2011
599
what good teams can afford to pay CP on the open market?
Dec 09th 2011
606
      What's funny is how nobody is talking about this.
Dec 09th 2011
624
           yup, and the Gilbert's of the world are HAPPY taking the revenue share
Dec 09th 2011
630
           I see your point, but what's the alternative?
Dec 09th 2011
635
                personally? I think they should have created a capless roster slot
Dec 09th 2011
648
           He should have gone to the Celtics. It would have been a good situation
Dec 09th 2011
651
no, the league has to deal with conflict of interest
Dec 09th 2011
601
How did all that "cap space" work out for Cleveland? If anything Stern.....
Dec 09th 2011
603
prolly helped Gilbert balance the books if nothing else
Dec 09th 2011
649
disagree with this:
Dec 09th 2011
604
league had great ratings last yr...ton of teams still did poorly financi...
Dec 09th 2011
607
Exhale, nigga. Shoop Shoop, and shit.
Dec 09th 2011
617
RE: not sure why ppl are surprised or mad the trade was rejected
Dec 09th 2011
673
The trade should have happened, fuck stern
Dec 09th 2011
593
http://tinyurl.com/csa9vsq
Dec 09th 2011
596
fuck are the knicks doing, fam?
Dec 09th 2011
598
trying to make a good deal?
Dec 09th 2011
600
      Dell Demps laughed at that shit bro.
Dec 09th 2011
641
simmons nailed it
Dec 09th 2011
602
so what players are tradeable from New Orleans and why?
Dec 09th 2011
616
collusion
Dec 09th 2011
619
collusion like a motherfucker.
Dec 09th 2011
629
Jesus! Archive!
Dec 09th 2011
627
And the season didn't even start yet.
Dec 09th 2011
631
Dan Gilbert's comments shows how wrong Stern was in handling
Dec 09th 2011
628
yup. gilbert is the bad guy in the Decision, not Bron
Dec 09th 2011
639
why would LeBron be a bad guy for exercising his rights as
Dec 09th 2011
643
NO AGENDA REDIRECTION ALLOWED.
Dec 09th 2011
644
exactly... he lost my support for life off this move.
Dec 09th 2011
642
Gilbert got a hefty fine for that actually
Dec 09th 2011
654
....SPORTSMANSHIP!!!...(c)
Dec 09th 2011
634
real talk, if it were a diff team than the lakers, these shenanigans
Dec 09th 2011
636
LOL I was saying the same thing to my boy
Dec 09th 2011
681
Question: if your N.O would you really make this trade?
Dec 09th 2011
640
N.O... DID make this trade, so uh...
Dec 09th 2011
645
I mean, they weren't trying to get Brawn-ed out... or so they thought
Dec 09th 2011
647
I personally felt we had more to gain by waiting a few more days.
Dec 09th 2011
646
What offer was better?
Dec 09th 2011
650
stern is putting this on sperling - his only OUT
Dec 09th 2011
656
Magic files tampering charges-Shit gets deeper! (c) Denzel
Dec 09th 2011
657
tampering is such bullshit.
Dec 09th 2011
662
because until recently no organization was allowed to contact players
Dec 09th 2011
671
      lol no
Dec 09th 2011
674
so wait, is this about the 1am drunk dial or something else? lol
Dec 09th 2011
666
      Apparently the Nets met with Dwight last night w/o informing ORL nm
Dec 09th 2011
669
Circumventing the system put in place with no grounds to do so
Dec 09th 2011
661
i just came to say 7x plat? DAMN
Dec 09th 2011
665
It's not the actual trade generating most of the replies....
Dec 09th 2011
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      and months of NO NBA TO TALK ABOUT
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I hope the trade goes through.
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^^^focused^^^
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^ Occupy Fail Street ^
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Chris Broussard---Union gives the NBA deadline on Paul trade
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Rip..bought out (waived)...No amnesty....Hmmmm......
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Limited Intellectual Capital?
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wow demps is toting the company line...poor guy.
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Bulls pull Bogans from practice floor (trade coming up for Crawford?)
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if im a Bulls fan i'd prefer J. Rich.
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      RE: if im a Bulls fan i'd prefer J. Rich.
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HERE'S that Wojo ether we've been waiting for. FIYA!!
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Mmmhmm.
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*Clue Voice* NEW CHRIS PAUL TRADE...TRADE....TRADE....!!
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sheed
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1. "I was actually feeling the three way scenerio..."
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no homo.

  

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2. "RE: Woj reporting Bynum/Odom for Chris Paul."
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>
>https://twitter.com/#!/WojYahooNBA/status/144913706302717952
>
>
>Fuck that other post.
>
>YES.


Lakers gave up too much...The other deal was better for them (keeping Bynum and trading Gasol)...Unless they are getting a center back...Because Gasol at the C? Good luck...lol

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Ryan M
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4. "I'd prefer to keep Gasol, personally."
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But I'm iffy on giving up on Odom, because now we're so amazingly thin in the front court overnight.

Sigh.

Still, happy, but...man.

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murph71
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14. "RE: I'd prefer to keep Gasol, personally."
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>But I'm iffy on giving up on Odom, because now we're so
>amazingly thin in the front court overnight.
>
>Sigh.
>
>Still, happy, but...man.


Dog...did you see how Gasol was man-handled in the playoffs? He's not physical and as it stands who is going to be the Lakers' physical guy in the middle...Teams are going to have a field day...lol

Should have kept Bynum....

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3. "can we make this official trade thread part deux"
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..|.,

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11. "NOPE. This shit's about to get .gif-tastic."
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5. "bynum for dwight bynum for dwight"
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bynum for dwight bynum for dwight

  

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6. "Without Odom, I don't think they can."
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7. "i don't think the lakers would give up pau + odom"
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unless they knew they could get dwight with bynum + not odom

  

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9. "^^^^"
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n/m

WHO'S GOT IT BETTER THAN US?!?! NOOOOBODDDDYY!!!!

  

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13. "I don't really understand how Dwight doesn't yield at least Bynum/Pau"
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if you motherfuckers get both I'm heated.

If you just end up with CP3 without Pau & no Dwight, I actually think you got worse.

  

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16. "I'm inclined to agree."
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But still, we probably weren't winning without a major deal. So fuck it.

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17. "RE: I don't really understand how Dwight doesn't yield at least Bynum/Pa..."
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beggars can't be choosers


>If you just end up with CP3 without Pau & no Dwight, I
>actually think you got worse.

i agree, that's why i think the front office must know they can still get dwight. I doubt they would risk the next 5 years with just Bynum up front

  

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25. "this is what scares me, if this is just the first shoe to drop:"
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>i agree, that's why i think the front office must know they
>can still get dwight. I doubt they would risk the next 5 years
>with just Bynum up front

but really, I can't see how either trade doesn't require Bynum.

  

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26. "I don't even know how you flip Dwight without Odom or Pau + Bynum."
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murph71
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32. "RE: I don't even know how you flip Dwight without Odom or Pau + Bynum."
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U don't...That's why it's not happening...Unless they get another team involved...because Bynum by himself aint worth Howard...At all...

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39. "RE: I don't even know how you flip Dwight without Odom or Pau + Bynum."
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>U don't...That's why it's not happening...Unless they get
>another team involved...because Bynum by himself aint worth
>Howard...At all...

trades haven't been about pure value for value for a while. If howard says he'll only sign an extension with la, then bynum might be the best they can get for him

  

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22. "how quickly you forget kapono "
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WHO'S GOT IT BETTER THAN US?!?! NOOOOBODDDDYY!!!!

  

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24. "I'm sayin. If I was them and they asked for both. They're gone"
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That simple. You can turn down a chance for the best big man in the game. Period.

  

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35. "If they get lesser value for Howard but get rid of Hedo's contract"
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I think they have to be satisfied. Otherwise it's let him walk or Brook Lopez as the new cornerstone of your franchise.

  

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8. "Well, the deal kinda sucks for the Hornets"
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You'd think they'd want something more beyond a 31-year-old with a huge contract. Still, works out fine for the Lakers.

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10. "They must be planning something further."
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Odom is gone for sure, and Gasol will be in demand.

Sounds like these were the best pieces to get overall, with an eye towards future deals.

  

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12. "Kajun, what would you be happy with again for the honets?"
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..|.,

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20. "CP3 re-signing...lol."
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Outside of that, I realize that this is about as good as it can get.

I wanted the Golden State deal with Curry, or the Clippers with Gordon. But those deals weren't happening, so this was the next best thing.

The only issue is CP3 on the Lakers. I've been swallowing vomit for the last 5 minutes.

  

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30. "as a hornets fan, the taste of vomit should be familiar. "
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45. "RE: CP3 re-signing...lol."
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>Outside of that, I realize that this is about as good as it
>can get.
>
>I wanted the Golden State deal with Curry, or the Clippers
>with Gordon. But those deals weren't happening, so this was
>the next best thing.
>
>The only issue is CP3 on the Lakers. I've been swallowing
>vomit for the last 5 minutes.

They should be moved to Seattle anyway.....

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47. "Two wrongs don't make a right."
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OK City should be moved to Seattle.

  

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98. "RE: Two wrongs don't make a right."
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>OK City should be moved to Seattle.


OK City loves their B-Ball...They are rabid...NO really doesn't....

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112. "10,000 season tickets sold."
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Some of the best crowds in the NBA from 2007-09. Management let the momentum slip.

The new brass has em back on the right track.

There are at least 5 worse markets in the league anyway.

  

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murph71
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119. "RE: 10,000 season tickets sold."
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>Some of the best crowds in the NBA from 2007-09. Management
>let the momentum slip.
>
>The new brass has em back on the right track.
>
>There are at least 5 worse markets in the league anyway.


I see those fans digging the team only when they have a competitive squad...But with OK City, you get the feeling that they would be screaming nutcases even for a Junior varsity team...

Big difference....

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85. "like contraction? unless they get like 5 lotto picks, this deal sucks"
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n/m

___________

HOPE!
https://vine.co/v/i7JjIBL3Qix
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15. "ESPN says Rox still talking about getting Gasol"
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Sources tell ESPN that Houston Rockets remain part of Chris Paul talks and are in advanced discussions to receive Pau Gasol from Hornets

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18. "RE: Well, the deal kinda sucks for the Hornets"
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They have to be flipping for young assets/ picks. I would imagine that's why they're "informing other teams in the league." I wouldn't be surprised to see the wolves get in on this before it's done, seems like Khan has been in on every 3+ way deal in the last year. He got the Knicks to just give him Anthony Randolph in the Melo deal.

  

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19. "I CANT KEEP UP!!! 3 Way with Houston!"
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http://twitter.com/#!/WojYahooNBA/status/144919599631183872

@WojYahooNBA
Adrian Wojnarowski
Hornets working to finalize details on 3-team deal to send Chris Paul to Lakers, Gasol to Rockets and Odom, KMart, Scola to NO, sources say.

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23. "RE: I CANT KEEP UP!!! 3 Way with Houston!"
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>http://twitter.com/#!/WojYahooNBA/status/144919599631183872
>
>@WojYahooNBA
>Adrian Wojnarowski
>Hornets working to finalize details on 3-team deal to send
>Chris Paul to Lakers, Gasol to Rockets and Odom, KMart, Scola
>to NO, sources say.

This^^^^makes more sense.....

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27. "doesn't make sense for LA unless they can get Dwight"
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>>http://twitter.com/#!/WojYahooNBA/status/144919599631183872
>>
>>@WojYahooNBA
>>Adrian Wojnarowski
>>Hornets working to finalize details on 3-team deal to send
>>Chris Paul to Lakers, Gasol to Rockets and Odom, KMart,
>Scola
>>to NO, sources say.
>
>This^^^^makes more sense.....
>

  

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38. "RE: doesn't make sense for LA unless they can get Dwight"
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>>>http://twitter.com/#!/WojYahooNBA/status/144919599631183872
>>>
>>>@WojYahooNBA
>>>Adrian Wojnarowski
>>>Hornets working to finalize details on 3-team deal to send
>>>Chris Paul to Lakers, Gasol to Rockets and Odom, KMart,
>>Scola
>>>to NO, sources say.
>>
>>This^^^^makes more sense.....


It makes sense because you keep Bynum....

U won't get Howard...Don't be greedy...U will have Kobe who will play for three more years, Paul (the best pure PG in the league) and a young center in Bynum, who will BLOSSOM playing with CP3...And I heard Ariza may be coming back...

Be happy...

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48. "lol.... i'll make sure to refference this post when dwight's a laker"
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>>>>http://twitter.com/#!/WojYahooNBA/status/144919599631183872
>>>>
>>>>@WojYahooNBA
>>>>Adrian Wojnarowski
>>>>Hornets working to finalize details on 3-team deal to send
>>>>Chris Paul to Lakers, Gasol to Rockets and Odom, KMart,
>>>Scola
>>>>to NO, sources say.
>>>
>>>This^^^^makes more sense.....
>
>
>It makes sense because you keep Bynum....
>
>U won't get Howard...Don't be greedy...U will have Kobe who
>will play for three more years, Paul (the best pure PG in the
>league) and a young center in Bynum, who will BLOSSOM playing
>with CP3...And I heard Ariza may be coming back...
>
>Be happy...

  

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50. "Gasol>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bynum"
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and who are you talking to about being happy, murph?

This is me. I'm just hoping to minimize my misery.

  

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315. "but Bynum w/ CP3 might be >>>> Pau"
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
<---- 5....
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Occupy Big Government..

Fannie, Freddie dole out big bonuses
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373. "nah, with Lamar out you're still Kobe/CP3, bums & Sometimey Socks"
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I'd be fine with that as a Laker Hater unless the other shoe dropped & Howard came here.

LOL @ a Bynum as an entire frontcourt.

  

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53. "Isn't K-Mart still in China? lol"
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________________________________________
"Take the surprise out your voice Shaq."-The REAL CP3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2H5K-BUMS0

  

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72. "RE: Isn't K-Mart still in China? lol"
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Wrong K-Mart....

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78. "lol, you're right, my bad, but KevMart needs another nickname"
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________________________________________
"Take the surprise out your voice Shaq."-The REAL CP3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2H5K-BUMS0

  

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88. "Kwik-E-Mart?"
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..|.,

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21. "I'm hearing Ariza is coming, too."
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Only so the Lakers can offer to flip him with Bynum for Howard and Hedo. I doubt that deal even works, but I'm hearing it from a dude who's hearing it from ESPN.

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37. "Ariza or Okafor have to be included to match salaries"
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---------------------------------
<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
-Kobe speaking to investigators

L D E A

  

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41. "RE: I'm hearing Ariza is coming, too."
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>Only so the Lakers can offer to flip him with Bynum for
>Howard and Hedo. I doubt that deal even works, but I'm hearing
>it from a dude who's hearing it from ESPN.


Pipe dream...lol

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28. "What a horrible deal for N'Awlins"
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Not sure if Ariza is involved but as of now it would essentially be KevMart, Scola, Dragic and Odom for CP3 and David West (who they have to renounce in order to make the deal work.)

Just terrible.

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52. "A deal for Rondo would have been better"
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This trade is horrible for nawlins

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76. "What isn't West a free agent?"
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>Not sure if Ariza is involved but as of now it would
>essentially be KevMart, Scola, Dragic and Odom for CP3 and
>David West (who they have to renounce in order to make the
>deal work.)
>
>Just terrible.
>

So they get Scola, Odom, and Kevin Martin for Paul who was going to walk at the end of the year otherwise and that's "terrible"?

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113. "RE: What isn't West a free agent?"
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>>Not sure if Ariza is involved but as of now it would
>>essentially be KevMart, Scola, Dragic and Odom for CP3 and
>>David West (who they have to renounce in order to make the
>>deal work.)
>>
>>Just terrible.
>>
>
>So they get Scola, Odom, and Kevin Martin for Paul who was
>going to walk at the end of the year otherwise and that's
>"terrible"?


And they are getting great draft picks...It's a great deal for New Orleans...It's only bad if you just wanted to keep CP3...But franchise wise? That's a damn good deal...

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97. "RE: What a horrible deal for N'Awlins"
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Serious conflict of interest, the NBA running the Hornets and trading their best player to a franchise the league needs to remain in the championship picture.

  

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108. "as opposed to sending him to new york? "
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NY would have been the real conspiracy

  

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173. "I thought nobody wanted to play with Kobe?!!"
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Simmer down conspiracy theorists. Paul wasn't going to sign an extension with Boston.

  

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29. "Don't see Kupchak doing this unless something else is in the works"
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As stands, we're way too thin in the front-court.

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31. "Mitch is up to something with Howard"
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just don't see this helping them get Howard at all.

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33. "The only thing that works is something like..."
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Howard
Hedo

for

Bynum
Blake
Walton (and he'll say he's gonna retire so instant cap relief)

...and that's just a shitty haul for the best big man around.

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36. "and? we have a long history of donkey punching teams for players"
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i'm more than happy to rape, pillage, and plunder for these guys. nothing like adding insult to injury

  

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43. "yeah pretty much, lol"
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>...and that's just a shitty haul for the best big man around.

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46. "that is fucking AWFUL"
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>Bynum
>Blake
>Walton (and he'll say he's gonna retire so instant cap
>relief)

  

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51. "Beyond awful."
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I just don't see how this helps land Howard. He CAN'T sign as a FA either, so there goes that. I'm happy as shit with CP3 but...

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54. "Then let him walk for nothing :)"
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<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
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55. "You know he pretty much CAN'T sign here, right?"
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57. "Lol yes, I'm speaking from a leverage standpoint fam"
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<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
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59. "Ahhh, got it."
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60. "i mean if thats how it is, no wonder some owners said fuckaseason"
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64. "Agreed, and that's why I was dreading a franchise tag inclusion"
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That would have killed all leverage for Dwight.

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"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

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56. "is Howard out to fuck over the Magic that badly? I'd assume"
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he was helping them out laying low & that he'd be going somewhere for a deal that isn't absolutely horrible.

The Knicks gave up more for Melo than this bullshit even though he said he wanted to play only there.

  

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61. "I think the CP3 friendship/connection strengthens his resolve more"
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CP3 blowing up his phone, Kobe blowing up his phone.....COME TO LA DWIGHT. All lights and eyes on you.

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<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

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73. "CP3's better friends w/Chandler than D12, he doesn't even really like Ko..."
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I'm not sure friendship is coming into play all that deeply, that seemed more like what CP3 to the Knicks would have been.

But I'd assume he as well as anyone realizes they ain't winning with them in the backcourt with just Bynum so they might as well go all in on Dwight.

Not to mention I have no idea how you pay for all three of those guys when Kobe's making $84 million the next three years, they've got dead weight salaries already & both CP3/D12 will want to sign their max-deals before the deal unless either just plans on bouncing in free agency next year.

  

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75. "RE: CP3's better friends w/Chandler than D12, he doesn't even really lik..."
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Yep^^^^

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89. "First, how do you know CP3 doesn't like Kobe? LOL"
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Not everyone is you man! Multiple people have said Kobe was on the phone multiple times with CP3 last week, sounds friendly enough for me. And as far as the friends thing with Chandler, these dudes still all talk and have a connection.....and you know these new-jack superstars(w/ the exception of D Rose) all want to be on the same squads now lol.

Money wise, 5 billion over 25 years with the new cable deal. You can go over the cap to re-sign a player.

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"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

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128. "I know from an NBA player he is actually friends with he's not a big fan"
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but being friends ain't a prerequisite otherwise nobdody would have played in LA for the past however many years.

I can tell you who offline if you really need to know.

The Lakers are gonna be so far over the tax that it's hard to see Buss doing it (plus there's zero left for anyone else, it would make Miami's squad around those three look like All-Stars) but on the other hand I don't see them going into the season with just Bynum or even without assurances from Howard he's gonna pull a Melo.

Because this move on its own doesn't make them a title team.

The next move (Socks & Scraps for Howard) makes it a reign of dominance.

  

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99. "so does this dead the chandler to the knicks thing"
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deron?

..|.,

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101. "RE: so does this dead the chandler to the knicks thing"
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>deron?

Nope...that's all but done...

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49. "And the other player we recieve from the Hornets (Ariza or Okafor)"
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Only way the salaries match in that deal is if one of them are included

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<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

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82. "i wouldn't mind picking up okafor actually"
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because drew could then be flipped for a power forward and/or some depth to give us a more balanced team overall. oke is solid at center, just not quite worthy of that contract.

that would give us the most overall flexibility. of course, if the lakers are certain they could make a serious play for dwight then that wouldn't make sense. actually, i wonder if a sign and trade could be done with david west? obviously that would depend heavily on his current market value, but that would give us another piece to ship with bynum in an effort to land dwight, and it's good insurance if dwight winds up out of reach.

  

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34. "considering the rumor is that dwight and cp3 want to play together"
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this could entice dwight to decide he wants to play for LA and tell orlando as much.

  

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42. "They probably already have his word"
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Even if he goes to free agency, where is he going to look to sign first?

  

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44. "and if that's the case Orlando might as well make a desperate trade"
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to get something in return at least. If he's told Orlando he's not coming back, go ahead and pull off something at least.

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63. "Exactly, and no team will make that deal unless Howard will re-sign"
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And which team is he willing to re-sign with that also coincidentally has a young center who could be the center piece of a replacement package?

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<--The drought is over

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65. "Grizzlies? lol j/k"
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yeah, that sums it up though

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67. "RE: Exactly, and no team will make that deal unless Howard will re-sign"
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>And which team is he willing to re-sign with that also
>coincidentally has a young center who could be the center
>piece of a replacement package?


Not true...Don't underestimate what New Jersey (Brooklyn) brings to the table...D.Wills has been getting at Howard on the low...

The real issue with getting Howard for the Lakers is Odom....He was the extra throw-in that made that deal work because of his contract...Now he's gone...It's not going to work with just Bynum and a throw-in...Not with his injury history...

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74. "but who would ORL rather have? Lopez or Bynum?"
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I'm sure it more to it than that, but that's how I'm seeing it on the surface given that he's to them he's not resigning.

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79. "RE: but who would ORL rather have? Lopez or Bynum?"
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>I'm sure it more to it than that, but that's how I'm seeing
>it on the surface given that he's to them he's not resigning.


You would rather have Lopez, a cap space player (off the books...very important) and a gang of draft picks....Remember, New Jersey's deal is better than most...The issue is whether Dwight will stay...And trust me, D Wills can be the no. 1 reason to stay...

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84. "Ok, yeah I'd take the NJ deal instead too"
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>You would rather have Lopez and cap space player (off the
>books) and a gang of draft picks....Remember, New Jersey's
>deal is better than most...The issue is whether Dwight will
>stay...And trust me, D Wills can be the no. 1 reason to
>stay...

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94. "Deron has already said he's entering FA in the summer"
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That's hardly a vote of confidence man.

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103. "*if* they don't land any top FA..which is why everything hinges on"
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the Nets landing Howard...

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109. "RE: Deron has already said he's entering FA in the summer"
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>That's hardly a vote of confidence man.


U have to understand why he's doing it...It's a business formality...It's the only way he can get that extra $20 plus million by opting out and RESIGNING with the Nets or another team...

So that's not a sign of anything...

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116. "^^ what he said, Deron is just getting paid, that's all"
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>>That's hardly a vote of confidence man.
>
>
>U have to understand why he's doing it...It's a business
>formality...It's the only way he can get that extra $20 plus
>million by opting out and RESIGNING with the Nets or another
>team...
>
>So that's not a sign of anything...

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40. "sooooo howard is gonna end up in LA for weak ass bynum"
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and a satchel of pubic hair.


that's what's up, man.

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58. "scene fucker said its a done deal"
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talkin bout it on espn now

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62. "swaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaag."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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66. "I look forward to Magic Johnson backtracking on his Heat criticism."
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158. "well it is a little different whe you have an organization putting..."
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a team together and when you have players colluding which is actually against the rules

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68. "CP3's team."
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69. "Does anyone follow IncarceratedBob?"
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LOL @ dude breaking the Pujols and Paul deals first today. Hilarious tweets too.



  

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70. "Lakers getting Paul was huge but they damn near gutted their"
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entire frontline to do it....

they better hope they get Howard or else this trade I believe won't turn out to be as good as it appears on paper...

also, I want to see how Kobe is going to accept NOT having the ball in his hands most of the time now that Paul will be the team's primary ball handler and distributor.

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ThaTruth
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80. "Paul is going to make Kobe BETTER and extend his career..."
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Kobe won't have to work nearly as hard to get his points

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95. "That's what you're hoping for but a Kobe Bryant @ 34 yrs of age"
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is not going to be doing a lot of running around off screens/picks in order to get the ball and his shots...and w/a true pg that's what he'll have to do.

Kobe has NEVER @ any point in his career had to play off the ball, he's always been the one player on the Lakers who could create his own shot.

and now that Gasol is gone (and Odom), who's the 2nd scoring option? Bynum or Paul?

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s_dot_miles
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"having Paul means Kobe has more space to work"


  

          

you cant double kobe and leave paul open bcuz he will kill you with his jumper or with the second pass

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vee-lover
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110. "The Mavs showed in the playoffs that you don't really have to"
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double team Kobe at this stage in his career...sure, he'll have gms where he goes off but he can't do it night in and night out any longer and just because it's a shortened season doesn't mean fatigue won't be a factor for them legs come playoff time w/all these back-to-back-to-back gms they league has scheduled...

they had old ass Kid and Marion who's no spring chicken taking turns guarding him...and if you force Paul to become a scorer, it neutralizes his strength which is to get other players involved.


>you cant double kobe and leave paul open bcuz he will kill
>you with his jumper or with the second pass

grassrootsphilosopher

  

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138. "eh, you just lost your best post option & passer"
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107. "yea if i were the lakers i'd be worried about my backcourt defensively"
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last year kobe was on skates against anybody good
and we all know CP3 is a turnstile who gets a few swipes every now and then

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111. "RE: yea if i were the lakers i'd be worried about my backcourt defensive..."
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>last year kobe was on skates against anybody good
>and we all know CP3 is a turnstile who gets a few swipes every
>now and then


Huh? CP3 is one of the best defensive PG's in the league...What r u talking about?

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

  

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114. "Nah, fam, he gets you stls but man on man defense is NOT his"
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strength, particularly against bigger guards like D-Will, who always works him over, and Chauncey who totally dominated him in the 2009 playoffs.


>>last year kobe was on skates against anybody good
>>and we all know CP3 is a turnstile who gets a few swipes
>every
>>now and then
>
>
>Huh? CP3 is one of the best defensive PG's in the
>league...What r u talking about?

grassrootsphilosopher

  

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southphillyman
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122. "ssssshhhh these dudes don't watch games. "
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CP3 is arguably a worse man defender than AI
seriously

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murph71
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125. "RE: ssssshhhh these dudes don't watch games. "
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>CP3 is arguably a worse man defender than AI
>seriously


I watch games...most observers call the dude one of the more better PG defenders...The catch? When he's healthy...

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134. "He falls into that Rondo/AI type defender - they get you stls but"
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neither are good one on one defenders...

>>CP3 is arguably a worse man defender than AI
>>seriously
>
>
>I watch games...most observers call the dude one of the more
>better PG defenders...The catch? When he's healthy...
>
>

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murph71
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123. "RE: Nah, fam, he gets you stls but man on man defense is NOT his"
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>strength, particularly against bigger guards like D-Will, who
>always works him over, and Chauncey who totally dominated him
>in the 2009 playoffs.
>
>
>>>last year kobe was on skates against anybody good
>>>and we all know CP3 is a turnstile who gets a few swipes
>>every
>>>now and then
>>
>>
>>Huh? CP3 is one of the best defensive PG's in the
>>league...What r u talking about?
>


Billups is damn near 6'4...That ain't impressive....

CP3 is not who you have to worry about defensively....He will be ok...I would be more worried about Kobe keeping up with those young ass SG's...

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vee-lover
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133. "I stated that he's always had trouble w/bigger guards but I've seen"
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smaller guards like Tony Parker and I've seen Jameer Nelson have good gms against him...


Paul IS NOT the player you rely on to shut down the opposing team's point guard lol...

The Lakers didn't improve defensively by acquiring Paul, they improved offensively w/having better ball movement and a distributor w/a legit pg


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murph71
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153. "RE: I stated that he's always had trouble w/bigger guards but I've seen"
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>smaller guards like Tony Parker and I've seen Jameer Nelson
>have good gms against him...
>
>
>Paul IS NOT the player you rely on to shut down the opposing
>team's point guard lol...
>
>The Lakers didn't improve defensively by acquiring Paul, they
>improved offensively w/having better ball movement and a
>distributor w/a legit pg


So u saying he wouldn't be better defensively than Fisher who was so bad that Kobe was forced to guard PG's?....

Okay...lol

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162. "He's an upgrade defensively over Fish but remember, it was Paul"
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last season who was working Fisher over in the playoffs...that's where him being a defensively liability was exposed

I still see Paul having trouble guarding a Westbrook or a Toney Parker

and lets not forget that Kobe is no longer the defensive player he once was either



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71. "that was the sound of me getting ready to update the 2K12 rosters, lol"
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77. "right? now i can play as the lakers"
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i fucking hated playing as the lakers before.

<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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81. "sad day -- I never wanted to hate Chris Paul, but my hands are tied"
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___________

HOPE!
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91. "yknow"
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..|.,

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83. "Rumor: Rockets getting Pau and giving up Scola and Dragic"
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winning!

---------------------------------

So i'm smokin on this cactus, bangin Fat Patrick
hustla til i die baby grindin like a savage
pimp game sweet, breakin ankles and feet
cuz these hoes break they toes til they job complete

H-Town made L.A. paid

  

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86. "Good, Agendas will be revved up over this shit. cause yall know"
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lakers ain't winning the chip right
This shit gotta be Chip or bust for the lakers even with out Howard
omg let CP3 still not be able to make the conf. finals (deron better)

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87. "Lamar on Stephen A show tonight"
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totally devestated. almost crying on the phone interview.

  

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96. "he took less money to stay in LA, so yeah, it's a business"
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I'd be mad if I were him, too.

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104. "Heard a clip, you can hear the devastation and confusion in his voice"
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---------------------------------
<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
-Kobe speaking to investigators

L D E A

  

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117. "yeah.. heard that clip too"
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gonna miss LO

  

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105. "I feel for him."
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But, it happens.

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115. "it's just business."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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ThaTruth
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124. "y'all know I was the biggest L.O. defender on here but fuck'em..."
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if he was as focused on his game as he was being a reality TV star things might have been different.

"GOTTA GO, GOTTA GO!!"(c)Robin Harris


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132. "he might the only dude oblivious enough to be surprised by this"
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BITCH THEY TRIED TO TRADE YOU TO THE SIXERS BEFORE THE LOCKOUT!

You really didn't think you were getting included in *any* big deal they made?

He's just mad he's gonnna end up divorced & off the reality show now.

  

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136. "I can't wait for my ride home, Stephen A been KILLING IT this week!"
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>totally devestated. almost crying on the phone interview.

  

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141. ":( I'mma mss LO"
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<--- Mmmmmmmmmmmmuah!

  

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152. "yea, he had a favorite beach AND a favorite candy store"
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his life got fucked


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160. "on what medium is this show broadcast?"
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++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

  

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190. "710 ESPN, listen live here (Stephen A starts at 6 Pacific):"
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http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/radio/index

  

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236. "damn, that dude is devestated as fock!"
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90. "also, question: can't the other 27 owners vote yay or nay on this deal?"
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they own the team, aren't all personnel moves pending ownership approval? David Stern just might lose the last fan he has with this one.

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660. "smh/lol"
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..|.,

If you still don't know what Jade Typhoon is, click here:
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92. "Thanks, Lamar and Pau nm"
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And LMAO at some of y'all in here trying hard to keep agendas alive

It's like y'all are scared and in denial

NOPE save the plea coppin' paragraphs, cuz ain't nobody readin' em

________________________________________________________________________
Cmon.

  

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93. "oh boy..if the lakers do not sign howard..."
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L

---------------------------------

So i'm smokin on this cactus, bangin Fat Patrick
hustla til i die baby grindin like a savage
pimp game sweet, breakin ankles and feet
cuz these hoes break they toes til they job complete

H-Town made L.A. paid

  

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118. "Yeah, and they can't sign him."
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They'll never have the cap space (even if they don't pick up Bynum's option and amnesty Metta World Peace). Otis Smith would have to have a hard on for Bynum and agree to trade for him (essentially straight up).

----
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100. "Much respect and thanks to Pau and Lamar. 2 rings."
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Can't ever take away what they did for the team. Much love, so many memories, and 2 championships. Respect.

---------------------------------
<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
-Kobe speaking to investigators

L D E A

  

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102. "Thank you, Lamar and Pau."
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You guys frustrated me to no end on a lot of days. But you were consummate professionals, and were flat out amazing some nights.

I'm gonna miss those dudes.

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17x NBA Champions

  

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126. "Agreed"
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Glad they got some rings.

  

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170. "Co-sign...they won 2 rings here... they won't be forgotten...."
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106. "what in the name of god is going on Houston?!"
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this is a TERRIBLE trade


do or die

  

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121. "reports are moreys trading scola, kmart, dragic to get pau and 13 mill"
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under the cap to sign someone else...i'll take it..i loved scola..but fugg it..we rebuilding and got 2 1st round picks if we dont trade one away...

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151. "Yeah, they can raise their offer to Nene now"
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Who they seemed to like. Him or Chandler it seems.

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182. "nene --what a fuckin Joke"
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id save that 13 million, be the worstteam in the league and draft Andre Drummond or some shit. Why half ass it. if you wanna scrap the team, scrap it all.

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120. "After cooling down, not sure I love it for the Lakers"
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Obviously, in terms of talent alone, it's a phenomenal deal for LA.

But now they're relying HEAVILY on Bynum to stay healthy and they've given up their biggest advantage over most teams, which is their size. I feel like teams like OK City, Memphis, and Portland now matchup a little better with them. And the Celtics are golden since Rondo (if we can get his head back on straight) historically owns CP3 and he's going to be even more fired up this year.

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127. "yea it was subtraction by addition lol"
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i wanna see a few games before i get too happy
but i think ppl are going realize how important Pau's passing ability and post presence was for this team
plus is CP3 even totally healthy?
last year was a career low in scoring for him so......

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146. "trying to talk myself into that, but look @ rosters CP3 been floating"
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there's no way he doesn't do well with the talent upgrade he's about to get around him in LA.

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129. "Some of ya'll need to apologize to Chris Broussard"
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137. "for what?"
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139. "He was reporting that CP3 wasn't going to be traded by Friday"
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When someone reports that everything is possible, he can't turn around and say, "See, I got it right!"

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140. "Ya'll skoffed when he said LA was going after"
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CP3 and Dwight.


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148. "please, his bullshit 'report' was so vague it was meaningless"
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it basically just said the Lakers would explore either of the two most coveted guys on the trading block, which was the biggest 'no shit' news ever & not even worthy of being news until ESPN beat you over the head with it like it was.

He worded that with enough ambiguity that he didn't need both of them coming (which still isn't necessarily happening anyway) and all he had to do was say Mitch was putting in the same call a lot of other GMs were/are (difference being Mitch is the GM of the crown jewel franchise & in a place people wanna play with assets to trade).

I mean really why on earth Broussard deserves credit for that mushmouth vacillating he's done here & elsewhere all week I have no idea.

  

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161. "I knew I shouldnt have said anything."
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I'm friends with Chris. And he's told me who many of his sources are. He's not free styling fam. Trust. A lot of the cats ya'll love...are the ones freestyling.

His report wasn't vague. It was accurate and it reflected what we saw today.


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193. "he said 'they'd explore trading for both of them', what is concrete"
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about saying that?

  

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256. "What?"
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The problem with your logic is that the Lakers ARE going after both. And no one else was even thinking they'd go after both at the same time.


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268. "uh, yeah, anyone with a brain knew they were gonna 'explore' that"
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DJ Wade-O
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282. "So why was no one else reporting that until he did?"
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He actually had confirmation that that was the plan. That's why.

I'm out though. Peace

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322. "maybe because it was an essentially meaningless story"
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but ESPN was gonna make sure one of their guys 'broke' it?

I don't know.

I also don't know who thought they wouldn't do it but I'm not trying to slag on your boy, I just didn't particularly find anything he did here to be worthy of major credit let alone an 'apology'.

The whole thing got a 'no shit' from me in that OG post & we're still in the same place we were then with neither of those guys booking a flight to LAX.

  

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SoulHonky
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150. "People scoffed because EVERYONE WAS GOING AFTER CP3 AND DWIGHT!"
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Breaking news: big market team trying to acquire best available players!

Dude gets paid for that?

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southphillyman
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130. "Will soft ass Mike Brown be able to handle the egos?"
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we know about Kobe
but didn't CP get Byron Scott fired over some beef shit?
add Bynum thinking his shit don't stink......

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131. "I like that you believe Bynum actually "thinks""
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Im a fan of Bynum but dude is as dumb as a rock with severe learning disablities.

  

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260. "No"
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If you read up, the guy is terribly smart. He got into the league because his thinking ability impressed people. Do the research.

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135. "we might be getting 2 Trade Exceptions too. one worth $8.9 mil"
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LarryCoon Larry Coon
If this deal goes down for LA as just Gasol & LO for CP3, then the Lakers gain two trade exceptions, one for $8.9M.
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of course i know jack shit about NBA economics (who does lol) so somebody explain to me why that matters.

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154. "this means they have 8.9mil in cash to throw in a trade"
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as if it were a player worth that much

aka they could trade with a team who has a player they want and needs cap relief, and say, here's 8.9 million dollars

more basically, they can make a trade where salaries don't match and use the exception as a buffer, as an extreme hypothetical, something like Caracter + Walton for Rudy Gay

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183. "we'll be using that to eat either Gil or Turks contract...."
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142. "Every few years when you see drastic basketball landscape"
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changes it seems weird, but I'm happy. Pau and Lamar will be missed.
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143. "if the lakers were to get dwight"
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how fucking epic would a lakers/heat finals be?

bron/dwade/bosh
kobe/cp3/dwight

holy fuck, that would be insane

  

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149. "it's almost like the NBA is making moves specifically to have it happen...."
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352. "yeah, or, you know, the exact opposite"
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164. "it wouldn't be epic. it would be a 4-0 laker victory."
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178. "well that would be epic to me"
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177. "it would be Knicks in 6 vs LA in finals"
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all stah
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144. "RE: Woj reporting Gasol/Odom for Chris Paul."
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This is a dumb ass trade

Golden rule that should never be broken: You never trade big for small.

This will backfire.

If Howard is acquired in the end, well, then you got something there...

But if they do not quantify their interior, no way are they going to be able to compete with OKC, Memphis and Dallas...Teams who got bodies for days

  

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145. "vlade for kobe seemed to work out"
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>Golden rule that should never be broken: You never trade big
>for small.

  

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155. "lol Vlade lol"
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147. "Unless the small brings a big..."
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all stah
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157. "RE: Unless the small brings a big..."
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Kobe is not going to be able to give them superior play anymore. The body and legs are gone. Plus Chris Paul has a knee issue that he is hiding. That is fact.

So you give up big bodies for an injury prone PG?

Like I said, if Howard is not the light at the end of the tunnel, then they are pushing themselves into a future of Ls and rebuilding.

  

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159. "yea they traded two of the leagues biggest match up problems for"
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a no defense playing PG who might not ever get back to his peak performance level due to injury
and really no one has any idea how effective kobe will be waiting around for the ball
very risky imo
imagine if they play OKC in a series. russy might avg. 35
and the versatility of odom or pau pulling OKC bigs out of the paint is not there

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163. "those matchup problems were looking great while we got swept.."
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riiiiiiiiight....please guys....i am ok with the deal, I think more is coming...but ok with what it is right now. It saves me from cursing at Fish..and tired of waiting for Pau to get fired up...or Odom to show up when he wants....we weren't gonna win as we were..make changes. If nothing else, you are stocking for another good run in the future or cover for Kobe down the road...

  

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all stah
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167. "RE: those matchup problems were looking great while we got swept.."
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on the future of paul's knee?

dude, do you know how fucked up his knee is?

espn reporter:


6. So what happens if Paul's knee goes wonky?

Don't even ask.

  

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171. "I really believe that had more to do w/fatigue than the 4-0 sweep"
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would indicate....

Kobe used the Celtics as an example. He brought up how they, too, were eliminated in the 2nd rd by the Magic the year after they won the championship and said it was due mainly because of fatigue having played year round basketball for 2 seasons...but that once they got some rest they returned back to the finals vs LA.

Kobe was adamant that LA could do the same since they've played nearly year round basketball for *3* seasons...

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all stah
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165. "RE: yea they traded two of the leagues biggest match up problems for"
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If they do not get Howard, it will go down as the worst trade ever.

An injury prone bynum
an injury prone paul - with a terrible, and I mean terrble ass knee.
an old superstar.
no power forward/center reserves.


That shit is insane.


Lakers are clearly gambling here ...If they get Howard, then it is a great ass trade

if not, FOH

  

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176. "i thought the trade to get pau was the worst trade ever?"
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this isn't even close.

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all stah
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179. "RE: i thought the trade to get pau was the worst trade ever?"
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naw

because look at where the GRiz are right now.

  

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BlackLex
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186. "RE: yea they traded two of the leagues biggest match up problems for"
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Did you not see Paul go HAM in the playoffs last year?!

  

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all stah
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191. "RE: yea they traded two of the leagues biggest match up problems for"
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smh

  

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217. "RE: yea they traded two of the leagues biggest match up problems for"
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>smh


I see your point about them needing a Four...I agree...

But let's slow down on shitting on Paul....That dude almost single-handedly beat the Lakers last season...He was a problem...And his knee seemed cool and he was the dude asked to be the main guy...It will be different in LA, for at least the next 3 years...

Like I said, we can agree on the Lakers needing another big (Odom will be missed)...But Paul will make that team better in terms of ball spacing and ball movement...Especially with Bynum...

Ask Chandler how his career got resurrected....

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

  

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156. "I'm ready to start up my Lakers hate wagon"
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if they get Howard, I'm going Silky Johnson this year.

  

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174. "^ SCARED TO DEATH, SCARED TO LOOK ^"
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Orlando has no options... D12 is walking otherwise. He wants to play in LA...


Kobe: #6 & #7..

You: tears..
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
<---- 5....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlgiritpmfo

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Occupy Big Government..

Fannie, Freddie dole out big bonuses
http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=3F6F3E67-28B

  

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166. "lol y'all talking about howard"
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it's not happening. accept it: to get the best PG in the world, the lakers ensured that they will never get a rebound again.

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bshelly

"You (Fisher) could get fired, Les Snead could get fired, Kevin Demoff could get fired, but I will always be Eric Dickerson.” (c) The God

  

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180. "^ YA SHOOK ^"
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AI is broke and a Applebee's cook...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
<---- 5....
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=======================================
Occupy Big Government..

Fannie, Freddie dole out big bonuses
http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=3F6F3E67-28B

  

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196. "lol. yeah, player, i'm great right now"
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what was that league in the 80s that didn't allow players over 6'4"?

you would all kill that league.

the nba in 2012? not so much.

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bshelly

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181. "why not though? you really think the lakers would basically gut their"
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frontcourt w/ no follow up plan?

we just saw chris paul force a garbage ass trade due to refusing to re-sign w/ the clippers and warriors (both of whom could have offered a better package). dwight can easily do the same and force otis smith's hand to either s&t him to LA for garbage or walk for nothing.

i feel like the lakers don't make this move w/out prior assurance from dwight.

◦◦◦
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168. "the Lakers could ask Kris Humphries to get paid nearly no money"
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and start a reality show around his life collecting 15 rebounds by day while searching for that elusive single rebound by night

Call it Hump Around the USA

surprise cameo by Kris & Khloe at the practice facility demanding Humphries give Odom his job back

~~~~~~~~~
"This is the streets, and I am the trap." Jay Bilas

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169. "*sly grin*"
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..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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172. "lol, then watch Bynum go down again and Kobe has to play center."
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https://banafrit.com/
http://middlebrainmedia.com/

  

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175. "LOL @ us getting just pau"
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awesome.

Guess we go into full rebuild mode.

Sign Nene? Why?

Pau and Nene...real fuckin scary


Whos gonna score from the perimeter? Courtney Lee and Chase Budinger?

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194. "Well, when Brooks gets back from China, lol"
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________________________________________
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184. "HAHAHAHA all this hate BEFORE Dwight, this shit gonna be GREAT"
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This team makes the playoffs even w/o Dwight - look at what CP3 did in the postseason with NO Kobe and NO Bynum.

Now?


Heads are going to explode!!!!

#TeamKupchak

______________________________


"Take one for the team when the opponents disperse damage"

  

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188. "lose in the 1st round in a down year for the western conference?"
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>look at what
>CP3 did in the postseason with NO Kobe and NO Bynum.
>

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185. "RE: Woj reporting Gasol/Odom for Chris Paul."
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The Nets will get Howard...

they can absorb Hedo's contract, plus Brook Lopez is more durable than Bynum and he cost a lot less, and they can offer draft picks.

They have more chips to offer

  

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192. "Howard has to be willing to agree to a sign and trade"
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________________________________________
"Take the surprise out your voice Shaq."-The REAL CP3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2H5K-BUMS0

  

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214. "they don't get it man... No team is taking CP3 w/o knowing he'll"
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resign...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
<---- 5....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlgiritpmfo

=======================================
Occupy Big Government..

Fannie, Freddie dole out big bonuses
http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=3F6F3E67-28B

  

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187. "this a whole new team, man."
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-30-
You know it's drama, but it sound real good.

  

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189. "damn. well... shit."
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so long MVPau. LOL.

  

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195. "REPORTING THIS DEAL MIGHT NOT BE GOING THRU NOW"
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710 just broke in with CP3 is going to be starting camp with the Hornets, owners are protesting & since the league currently owns the Hornets that CP3 may not be going anywhere.

  

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197. "WOJO REPORTING IT TOO"
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@WojYahooNBA: NBA owners have pushed David Stern to kill the deal sending Chris Paul to the Lakers

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202. "Mason & Ireland were having an on-air party, an intern brings a memo in"
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with Mark Stein's report.

I don't know that I've heard the tenor of local radio hosts change that quickly ever.

  

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206. "post the mp3 right. now."
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bshelly

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210. "you might be able to get it here but Stephen A preachin now:"
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http://espn.go.com/espnradio/losangeles/play?s=la

  

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225. "this nigga Odom sounds like Jay when he heard Ether"
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.

...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft

  

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235. "lmao!! this nigga soundin like Khloe took the Bentley back"
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---------------------------------

So i'm smokin on this cactus, bangin Fat Patrick
hustla til i die baby grindin like a savage
pimp game sweet, breakin ankles and feet
cuz these hoes break they toes til they job complete

H-Town made L.A. paid

  

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247. "he is somewhere nearby puffing a smoke-filled sigh of relief"
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254. "jay lost"
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
<---- 5....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlgiritpmfo

=======================================
Occupy Big Government..

Fannie, Freddie dole out big bonuses
http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=3F6F3E67-28B

  

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201. "ESPN is reporting Lakers said 'Wait a minute'"
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http://twitter.com/phenompyrus

Get Out the Room
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205. "Shit is very New York Knicks getting the top pick-ish"
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<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

  

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198. "Woj say the rest of the owners mad!!!"
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@WojYahooNBA NBA owners have pushed commissioner David Stern to kill the deal sending Chris Paul to the Los Angeles Lakers

they hatin lmao

<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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199. "on what grounds?"
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203. "They own the team."
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The Hornets are owned collectively by all 29 other teams.

  

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204. "I know that but what's the issue with the trade"
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211. "Yeah, it's bullshit if they don't let it through"
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It might not be the best package but it's a fair enough deal.

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213. "IDK it isnt like the NBA didnt make the trade"
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they put a nigga (idk his name) in charge and told him to act as he saw fit.

the league is bullshitting.

they mad cause the lakers mastered the trade market.

<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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672. "they mastered the "being in Hollywood with NBA's marquee brand" market"
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>they mad cause the lakers mastered the trade market.

___________________

Mar-A-Lago delenda est

  

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200. "HAHAHAHAHA WHAT NOW LAKERS FAN?"
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bshelly

"You (Fisher) could get fired, Les Snead could get fired, Kevin Demoff could get fired, but I will always be Eric Dickerson.” (c) The God

  

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212. "increases the likelihood of them getting a player i'm actually scared o..."
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howard

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218. "i know, but i'm still going to celebrate the lakers looking dumb"
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bshelly

"You (Fisher) could get fired, Les Snead could get fired, Kevin Demoff could get fired, but I will always be Eric Dickerson.” (c) The God

  

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380. "Lakers fans know the ownership will do whatever it takes"
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to build a winner. How about those 6ers?

_____________________________________________

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207. "everybody, Stephen's 710 show is gonna be epic (link):"
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http://espn.go.com/espnradio/losangeles/play?s=la

  

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215. "lamar is going to be absolutely worthless this season."
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he's mentally shattered. he can barely talk.

<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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659. "that shit was hilarious"
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that nigga sounded borderline suicidal

  

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208. "Stein says deal is already off the table."
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~~~~~~~~~
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209. "HAHAHAHA STEINY MO SAYS IT'S OFF"
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ESPNSteinLine Marc Stein
One source close to the three-team Chris Paul trade talks just told ESPN.com: "The deal is off."

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bshelly

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220. "http://i44.tinypic.com/1zf3mu0.png"
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>
>ESPNSteinLine Marc Stein
>One source close to the three-team Chris Paul trade talks just
>told ESPN.com: "The deal is off."


http://i44.tinypic.com/1zf3mu0.png

  

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222. "RE: HAHAHAHA STEINY MO SAYS IT'S OFF"
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>
>ESPNSteinLine Marc Stein
>One source close to the three-team Chris Paul trade talks just
>told ESPN.com: "The deal is off."


Too funny....lol

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

  

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228. "Thank God it snowed ..."
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Cigars/Champagne & Celebration to screwfaces and headscratchin' ... the air is still thick right now, the floor is still wet but the party is no longer poppin' off ...

Thank God it snowed*.

Challenger-

































*Just hope that it doesn't result in LA getting DHoward, now THAT would be scary. Would rather the CP3 trade passes.

************************************************************************************
M. Ali - the Greatest - https://youtube.com/watch?v=jkhpZoPOfZI

  

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216. "this saga alone makes me so glad the NBA is back"
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no other league ca provide this much consistent drama in one day, let alone a season
~~~~~~~~~
"This is the streets, and I am the trap." Jay Bilas

http://www.last.fm/user/NodimaChee

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224. "lol, right"
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________________________________________
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219. "I got no dog in the fight when it comes to the NBA, but I'd love..."
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to know who killed the deal and what the fuck for. Owners hating that brazenly?

...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft

  

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250. "RE: I got no dog in the fight when it comes to the NBA, but I'd love..."
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>to know who killed the deal and what the fuck for. Owners
>hating that brazenly?


Probably the smaller market teams...There were a few though....

Shit is hilarious...

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275. "You already know it was Pop and the Spurs"
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332. "damn they stay in your head"
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221. "real talk: this is the equivalent of a lame fantasy veto"
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when the guy who always wins makes a good trade, and the jealous hater owners who can't beat him veto the trade just because it's the champ.

there's nothing inherently unfair about this deal.

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226. "this shit is gay. straight up."
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we bout to win again and niggas got they panties in a bunch.

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234. "i don't know that you were going to win. you gave up a LOT."
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and, look, if a trade goes through for just bynum for howard, then i'll believe dynasty Whatever.0 was pre-empted by this. as it was, you were too small, and you can't fill that gap with the Okafors and mid-levels of the world. teams with cheap bigs don't win.

that said, this is still just sour grapes. the lakers gave up plenty to get this guy. they were probably worse after the trade than before it. and yet the owners just hated.

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242. "nah, Howard's gotta be Bynum & Gasol, you can't justify"
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Socks & Scraps for the best center of his generation, you just can't.

That's the deal I'd hate on, this one on its face is fine.

  

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261. "I almost want Lakers to deal Pau/Socks to Howard. "Fuck All Y'All!""
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And then sign Billups to the MLE.

This is just fucked. I didn't think the owners could make themselves look worse after the lockout but they never cease to amaze me.

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237. "pretty much, I don't think on its face it was that great a trade for LA"
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324. "As a certified laker hater: this is bullshit"
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Are they not going to explain what their excuse is?

  

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223. "@CP3: WoW"
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i agree.

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227. "Owners killed it and we backed out due to not getting a big back"
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Two things I'm hearing.

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<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
-Kobe speaking to investigators

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267. "and Im glad. Gasol straight up is what I would have done"
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not gasol and odom, and definitely not bynum and odom.

"MY FOOD FOR THOUGHT SO HOT IT GIVE YOU DUDES ULCERS."
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283. "I'm actually surprised NO didn't try to move Okafor's contract in the de..."
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Only the framework had been agreed upon....I mean, LO said that he hadn't even been contacted which tells me there def still some details to be worked out.

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<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
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L D E A

  

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229. "man, I'm sitting here listening to the replay of Lamar's interview"
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feeling almost bad for dude (because he is a good dude even if we all know this is business) and then remind myself DUDE IS STILL A LAKER.

This is a weird evening.

  

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291. "MAN FUCK THAT BITCH"
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230. "oh well..was fun while it lasted...."
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lol

  

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231. "The Kardashians and Ryan Seacrest killed the deal."
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_______________________________________
Follow me @bstokessmooth

  

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232. "If this trade doesn't go through, he better not get traded at all"
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240. "I agree "
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245. "League trying to spin it that Lakers stepped away"
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But yeah, I don't know how you could OK another trade unless it was something like Dwight for CP3 (which even then is worse because Dwight would be gone in a year.)

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251. "agreed."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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264. "seems like that's gonna be the case, I actually kinda want this trade"
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because if they're depending on backcourt plus Bynum to carry them that shit has FAIL writteen all over it.

  

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233. "*still sees 5 rings for #24* *sees zero rings for OKS's favorite savior..."
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Cmon.

  

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239. "*sees a laker fan who seemsd PRETTY MAD!!!*"
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244. "so we won't win our 3rd ring in 4 years?"
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dag! - lol
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<---- 5....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlgiritpmfo

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Occupy Big Government..

Fannie, Freddie dole out big bonuses
http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=3F6F3E67-28B

  

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246. "Not actually. I'm amused at all the pussification I see in here, though."
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Y'all dudes are/were as shook/MAD as the owners were.

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238. "haha - owners some haters... lololololol"
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<---- 5....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlgiritpmfo

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Occupy Big Government..

Fannie, Freddie dole out big bonuses
http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=3F6F3E67-28B

  

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243. "Basa just said it best on twitter"
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HotFiyaStarter FiyaStarter
This shit is the equivalent to a broke as bytch hating on their girlfriends who got a man.

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249. "hahahaha - FIYAH!!!"
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
<---- 5....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlgiritpmfo

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Occupy Big Government..

Fannie, Freddie dole out big bonuses
http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=3F6F3E67-28B

  

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253. "RE: Basa just said it best on twitter"
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>HotFiyaStarter FiyaStarter
>This shit is the equivalent to a broke as bytch hating on
>their girlfriends who got a man.


LOL....

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

  

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271. "http://www.mclol.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/pimped-out-chappelle1.jp..."
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http://www.mclol.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/pimped-out-chappelle1.jpg

  

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241. "Lakers fans: We'll take Odom and send you Phil E. Moose"
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Phil can absolutely run the point better than Fischer.

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259. "http://youtu.be/7d_ToCL9nSY"
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http://youtu.be/7d_ToCL9nSY

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248. "Looks like the Knicks won"
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257. "http://i44.tinypic.com/wainic.jpg"
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>

http://i44.tinypic.com/wainic.jpg

  

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252. "what's to stop the owners from veto'ing EVERY cp3 trade?"
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258. "after this debacle, they have to"
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263. "Yep. Plus, who besides NY would want an "I should be LA" CP3?"
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Fuck trading Rondo for a guy who will walk out into a Boston winter every day thinking, "It's probably t-shirt weather in LA right now."

Stern fucked up.

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277. "they should have voted for the franchise tag if they were gonna do this"
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
<---- 5....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlgiritpmfo

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Occupy Big Government..

Fannie, Freddie dole out big bonuses
http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=3F6F3E67-28B

  

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255. "We're fucked. nm"
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262. "huh? I'm still fine with this team as currently constructed"
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Mitch didn't call either Pau or Lamar saying they had been traded....Lamar even said it, the deal isn't for sure yet.

---------------------------------
<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
-Kobe speaking to investigators

L D E A

  

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522. "Cause now we have 2 mentally soft players"
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Who essentially HAVE to be traded, because they know they're "not wanted". Definitely Odom, probably Pau. Yet everyone now KNOWS that so you can't get max value for them. If you keep em, they play like bitches. I've said the team as constructed was fine, but not once this news got out.

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538. "See, here's the thing with Pau and LO"
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Both will react very adversely to the trade talks, but they are also two guys who will listen. It's different once these guys get into camp and you have Kobe, Fish and co. getting in their ear about proving themselves and reminding everyone why they shouldn't be traded.

---------------------------------
<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
-Kobe speaking to investigators

L D E A

  

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286. "Why? You think Paul and Lamar are going to play like bitches? lol"
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436. "yes."
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265. "Media Day at laker's facility tomorrow should be interesting"
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266. "WTF?"
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oh nevermind lol

  

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279. "Haha, I'm glad I got to read your post though before u edited"
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>oh nevermind lol

  

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269. "NBA owners some straight up hoes for this."
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like... there is no other word for it. cockblocking a team that had something to offer? shit, the Lakers were about to bet the farm on CP3.

even after the lockout ends...

  

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270. "pretty much sums it up"
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274. "GMs now standing up for Demps. This shit is amazing."
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People tweeting that GMs are lauding the haul that Demps got for CP3.

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272. "Otis Smith should hop on the phone right quick."
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Seriously, is he going to get a better offer than Bynum, Scola, KevMart, and picks?

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273. "My gawd I hate preseason trades and Broussardisms."
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<--- Mmmmmmmmmmmmuah!

  

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BrooklynWHAT
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276. "Woj's tweets are veeeeeeeeeeeery interesting"
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WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Several GM's were lauding the haul of players and the draft pick that Demps was able to get back for Chris Paul in the deal. Now what?
6 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

Adrian Wojnarowski
WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
All along, the league office had allowed the Hornets to negotiate the Chris Paul trade without interference, sources said. And then, this.
9 minutes ago
Adrian Wojnarowski

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
New Orleans GM Dell Demps is "disconsolate" over this stunning, heavy-handed move from the commissioner's office, source tells Y! Sports.
12 minutes ago

this shit smell kinda fishy to me.

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280. "I have a feeling they leaked the block for PR & this trade still happens"
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>WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
>Several GM's were lauding the haul of players and the draft
>pick that Demps was able to get back for Chris Paul in the
>deal. Now what?
>6 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
>
>Adrian Wojnarowski
>WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
>All along, the league office had allowed the Hornets to
>negotiate the Chris Paul trade without interference, sources
>said. And then, this.
>9 minutes ago
>Adrian Wojnarowski
>
>WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
>New Orleans GM Dell Demps is "disconsolate" over this
>stunning, heavy-handed move from the commissioner's office,
>source tells Y! Sports.
>12 minutes ago
>
>this shit smell kinda fishy to me.

  

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s_dot_miles
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278. "So the league would rather the Hornets get nothing when Paul walks?"
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he is not gonna resign, so why block the trade?

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all stah
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281. "RE: Woj reporting Gasol/Odom for Chris Paul."
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this does not make sense.

The trade was a legal trade, maybe not a logical one, but nonetheless, it was a legal trade.




  

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284. "Well, Feel Jackson called it"
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http://t.co/o5KIc1wu

  

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287. "feel seeing the future on some zen shit"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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all stah
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285. "RE: Woj reporting Gasol/Odom for Chris Paul."
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I really think this trade was killed for showbiz reasons .....I really do believe that.

  

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288. "Jordan Still Ruining Title Chances"
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300. "lol, MJ didnt want Kobe to get 6"
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"Take the surprise out your voice Shaq."-The REAL CP3
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333. "I guarantee he was one of the bitch owners "
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289. "does this tweet make any sense?"
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http://twitter.com/#!/Mike_Bresnahan/status/144971691683094528

  

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295. "It's pure spin by the NBA"
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They completely fucked up and are trying to make it seem like they didn't. I wouldn't be stunned if they go begging to the Lakers to come out and say that they walked away from the deal.

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297. "BURN STERN!!! BURN!!! "
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
<---- 5....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlgiritpmfo

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Occupy Big Government..

Fannie, Freddie dole out big bonuses
http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=3F6F3E67-28B

  

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375. "has anyone ruled out the Lakers realize they couldn't get D12"
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and being okay with backing out of this?

  

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424. "we haven't ruled out you grasping at straws"
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to find any reason why this wasn't an absolute cock block by jealous, incompetent owners

  

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477. "k"
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290. "LOL...somebody in GD said CP3 sittin in front of his computer..."
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like this:
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee227/DreBarret/WeeBey.gif

...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft

  

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292. "lol"
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<---- 5....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlgiritpmfo

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Occupy Big Government..

Fannie, Freddie dole out big bonuses
http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=3F6F3E67-28B

  

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293. "Wait I THOUGHT DAVE STERN WAS A FAVORITIST FOR THE LAKERS?!?!?!?!"
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________________________________________________________________________
Cmon.

  

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557. "UH OH - AGENDA DEATH!!!"
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
<---- 5....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlgiritpmfo

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Occupy Big Government..

Fannie, Freddie dole out big bonuses
http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=3F6F3E67-28B

  

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618. "^^^ Perceptive Peepers"
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________________________________________________________________________
Cmon.

  

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all stah
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294. "RE: Woj reporting Gasol/Odom for Chris Paul."
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why don't the lakers,hornets and magic just do a three-way trade?

and kill three birds with one stone??

  

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296. "hate that the league did this / love watching Laker fans CRY"
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wah wah wah wah wah we got kobe and shaq and gasol for free... now we can't get the best point guard in the past 20 years for a big man that we all hate and a 6th man

  

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402. "who's crying?"
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we had a suspect backcourt, now we got a great backcourt back. i don't know 1 laker fan who was pleased with the deal. odom/gasol for howard is fine. no one wanted cp3 for gasol/odom

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298. "can we get a link to Lamar's reaction?"
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----------------------------------------------------------------
respect the gift.

  

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299. "Bucher now adding that Gasol wanted no part of Houston"
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303. "lol, who gives a fuck what he wanted?"
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________________________________________
"Take the surprise out your voice Shaq."-The REAL CP3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2H5K-BUMS0

  

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305. "If Paul winds up in NY we'll know the league is fixed, lol"
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________________________________________
"Take the surprise out your voice Shaq."-The REAL CP3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2H5K-BUMS0

  

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"RE: Bucher now adding that Gasol wanted no part of Houston"


  

          

Can't say I blame him, that team was looking dreadful.

  

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307. "RE: Bucher now adding that Gasol wanted no part of Houston"
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That had nothing to do with it...lol

Lakers trying to save face...Acting like they were the ones to pull out because they wanted another big man...

But the truth is the owners (who ALL own the Hornets...) wasn't down with it...So it looks like Paul aint going no where until the end of the season...

Unless he lands at a shitty place and not a contender....

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

  

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301. "CP3 got a lawyer.. he gonna fight! GOOD!!! HAHAHAHA!!!"
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
<---- 5....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlgiritpmfo

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Occupy Big Government..

Fannie, Freddie dole out big bonuses
http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=3F6F3E67-28B

  

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308. "GOOD"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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312. "What's there to fight...the deal wasn't signed...."
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handshake deals ain't shit.
The owners of the team (David Stern) rejected the deal.

  

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319. "NOPE! LAWYERS!"
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331. "the GM was making the deal.. the league went over their head.."
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
<---- 5....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlgiritpmfo

=======================================
Occupy Big Government..

Fannie, Freddie dole out big bonuses
http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=3F6F3E67-28B

  

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341. "the league OWNS teh team, they can go over his head on any issue"
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343. "which is an obvious conflict on interest..."
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If the owners want to stop these type of deals they could have votetd for a franchise tag... they didn't.. new CBA doesn't have it...


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Occupy Big Government..

Fannie, Freddie dole out big bonuses
http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=3F6F3E67-28B

  

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347. "better call saul!"
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434. "ha ha."
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https://digife.com

  

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376. "uh, no, the league can do whatever they want with that team"
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from now until the time its sold.

  

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447. "@mccannsportslaw gives good info on this stuff, says CP3 case is iffy"
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picked that dude up during the lockout, he puts out really good stuff on there.

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HOPE!
https://vine.co/v/i7JjIBL3Qix
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302. "CP3 not reporting to camp, Dell Demps (Hornets GM) might quit..."
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what a cluster-fuck created by these fools.

How can you let outsiders who have no part of the day to day operations interfere with a deal done by the GM responsible for the team. It's absolutely fucking asinine and I hope the blow-back is as severe as possible.

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<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
-Kobe speaking to investigators

L D E A

  

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318. "RE: CP3 not reporting to camp, Dell Demps (Hornets GM) might quit..."
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>what a cluster-fuck created by these fools.
>
>How can you let outsiders who have no part of the day to day
>operations interfere with a deal done by the GM responsible
>for the team. It's absolutely fucking asinine and I hope the
>blow-back is as severe as possible.


when u all have a stake in team, u can do whatever u want...

the issue isn't the owners hating...it's the NBA thinking it was smart to own a team...

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

  

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326. "My problem is them suddenly wanting to get involved when..."
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Demps had not been interfered with at all during the negotiations. It's ridiculous.

I can't even say if I like the deal or not (depends on the subsequent moves) but this is bs on principle.

---------------------------------
<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
-Kobe speaking to investigators

L D E A

  

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304. "NBA: Greatest OKP sport?"
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It's gotta be.. the agendas man.. the agendas..
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311. "well, and then we have moments like this that unite us"
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laker fan or laker hater, we can all argee this is bs.

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bshelly

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313. "DAVID STERN JUST STOLE ON CHRIS PAUL!!!!"
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317. "I just think the best arguments happen during NBA posts...."
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I actually look forward to the NBA season because of OKP. Shit gets so real when hoop season starts..

As for this trade, yep the league on some bullshit!
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Occupy Big Government..

Fannie, Freddie dole out big bonuses
http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=3F6F3E67-28B

  

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339. "I think the league is corny, but I'm loving the Lakers fans' indignation"
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Is that allowed?

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www.albumism.com

Checkin' Our Style, Return To Zero:

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566. "Of course!!!!!!!!!!"
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>Is that allowed?

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345. "hell I want to start an agenda just to get in on this, lol"
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yeah, agendas on here is the best thing about the NBA to me

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576. "In that you have a 500+ post about a player's ego? sure. "
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We do love gossipy drama here.

  

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306. "chris broussard reporting CP3 has contacted Billy Hunter"
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shit is about to get real.

CP3 is also not showing up to camp tomorrow

  

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309. "Fuck it, lets go after D-Will, I'm sure Paul wants to be reunited with....."
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Sasha

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rob
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310. "these assholes need to figure this out before my fantasy drafts"
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316. "i know. cp3 without kobe=top pick, cp3 with kobe=not top 10"
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320. "cmon, NBA better..."
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Occupy Big Government..

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314. "can't wait for celery to defend the homowners"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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335. "if we had the rule of law in this country, owners would be in jail"
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for this unfair labor bs.

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417. "bad business for NO to trade Paul *shrugs*"
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if I had just bought a stake in a business, worked hard to grow that business (10k season tix sold) and then that business turned around and gave up the most valuable asset it had, I could see how that would upset me.

not to mention the obvious -- to anyone outside of LA, Paul to the Lakers by an NBA owned team looks seriously fishy, too.

but what they have now is probably worse. *shrugs* I don't give a fuck, really. it's an obvious problem to have a league owned team, but if they didn't do that, they'd have a team in bankruptcy, so really which is worse? no idea.

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431. "its worse to keep him when theres 0% chance of him staying"
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it renders whatever value he brings to the hornets moot.

that's straight up hustling backwards

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433. "only true if you have a long-term stake in the team, NBA wants to sell"
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Dell Demps has the long-term interests of the Hornets in mind, that's why he found this trade.

NBA ownership just wants to insure the gate stays healthy while they find someone to take the team over. losing Chris Paul runs directly counter to that.

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BrooklynWHAT
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458. "i highly doubt the gates will do well even if they keep cp3"
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fans arent interested in seeing a lame duck team with a superstar counting the days until he can go to LA.

it's different than the Bron/Cleveland situation because they were one of the 2 or 3 favorites to win it all. the Hornets are cannon fodder for the west.

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464. "ticket sales don't correlate directly to Ws + Ls"
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people buy tickets for reasons besides how competitive the team is.

if the team secured 10k season ticket accounts, how many of those would balk if Paul got shipped for players they don't like?

I've seen Oakland sell out despite being a losing team, because people loved the players. I've also seen the Blazers fail to sell despite having a playoff team, because people hated the players so much. trading Chris Paul hurts more than keeping an unhappy Chris Paul.

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459. "no one's paying good money for a hornets team that'll lose cp3 in 66 gam..."
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and once he's gone, price will drop more and be harder to sell.

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321. "wojo just broke the new leading suitor for paul on twitter"
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http://2media.nowpublic.net/images//c4/25/c425b9d823b66b05a3a5131d91bd8806.jpg

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327. "they're trading the moose? damn. just signed him. "
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330. "phil knows it's a cold business. that's how he's made it thus far"
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323. "i'm jus glad this didn't happen with a knick trade"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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348. "MMMMMAAAAANNNNN!!!!!!!"
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325. "Oh jeez, Wojo on Stern's rationale. Can we say "Plantation Mentality?""
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WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
League source on killed deal: "...(Stern) wasn't going to let Chris Paul dictate where he wanted to go."
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(More) "In the end, David didnt like that the players were dictating where they wanted to go," source says.
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"The owners half-pushed this through, and Stern took it the rest of the way," a league source involved in nixed trade told Y! Sports.

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329. "When he's a free agent in a few months he'll dictate that anyway "
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358. "yup if anyone can attest to this.."
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334. "then get a franchise player tag dumb asses! - lolololol"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlgiritpmfo

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Occupy Big Government..

Fannie, Freddie dole out big bonuses
http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=3F6F3E67-28B

  

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336. "Fuck, go away already"
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338. "so this lockout was for nothing then"
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because all of these concerns could've been alleviated if they actually addressed them during the lockout.

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344. "owners got their money. they obv don't have attn span for day to day. "
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i'm just surprised we got back to this point so soon

  

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420. "all they did was take $ back from the players, it was a total failure"
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I have not seen sports management lead themselves into such disaster, so quickly, as the NBA has done these past 3 mos. franchise values league wide are surely being adjusted downwards as we speak.

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342. "Absolutely ridiculous, esp considering a new CBA was just ratified"
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Why wasn't this addressed in the CBA if it it's such an important issue? If owners or Stern don't want players dictating then why not push for a franchise tag and not push so hard on the revenue split? It's absolutely fucking asinine.

CP3 is navigating within the system, and a system which was JUST ratified again....and Stern wants to circumvent that now? Fuck that bs.

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<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
-Kobe speaking to investigators

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349. "THANK YOU BASED LA2PHILLY!! "
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>Why wasn't this addressed in the CBA if it it's such an
>important issue? If owners or Stern don't want players
>dictating then why not push for a franchise tag and not push
>so hard on the revenue split? It's absolutely fucking
>asinine.
>
>CP3 is navigating within the system, and a system which was
>JUST ratified again....and Stern wants to circumvent that now?
> Fuck that bs.


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351. "RE: Absolutely ridiculous, esp considering a new CBA was just ratified"
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Because no one in their right mind would have ever believed that the Lakers could trade Odom for a franchise caliber player...lol

That's reason enough for some owners...

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354. "except, that wasn't the deal. "
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356. "and also VERY foreseeable"
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369. "huh? We gave up Pau AND Lamar "
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And this was completely foreseeable considering Melo did it LAST SEASON and all the talk about how Dwight could potentially do the exact same thing.

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<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
-Kobe speaking to investigators

L D E A

  

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385. "RE: huh? We gave up Pau AND Lamar "
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>And this was completely foreseeable considering Melo did it
>LAST SEASON and all the talk about how Dwight could
>potentially do the exact same thing.



i know...that was a typo....i forgot gasol....

but the hate stems from another big market getting a franchise player...lol...those owners look like damn fools now...

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406. "It's because the lockout was always about money first and foremost"
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Specifically, the owners getting the favorable share of the BRI.

If the owners wanted the "franchise tag," they could have said, "Okay, players get 53% of the BRI, but we want a franchise tag." They decided that money was paramount. And here we sit.

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328. "This.is.awesomeeeeeeeeeeeee"
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337. "odom"
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http://twitter.com/#!/RealLamarOdom/status/144982136313745408

  

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355. "Picturing him tweeting that out with that suit and a sadface"
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357. "o for fucks sake"
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<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
-Kobe speaking to investigators

L D E A

  

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360. "luckily, he's a guy who doesn't let emotions affect his play"
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oh, wait

fuck

  

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361. "i fucking love lamar odom"
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367. "as i said he's going to be fucking useless this season."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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401. ""
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http://lakersblog.latimes.com/lakersblog/2011/12/lamar-odom-admitted-that-he-was-shocked-and-surprised-when-told-he-had-been-traded-by-the-lakers-to-the-new-orl.html

  

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480. "smh lol"
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340. "lolz stern brandishing the white hammer of ether"
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nm

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346. "David Stern's reactions WITH PICTURES"
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http://twitpic.com/7qkfa6

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350. "GASOL FOR KWAME = OK, GASOL FOR PAUL...FUCK NO!!!"
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REALLY??

  

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353. "lol"
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366. "you took the words right from my mouth"
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still, this was setting up to be the lakers trading three good players for two of the ten best players in the association like the highest level of pro basketball was some cheap ass fantasy league. i can see their reservations.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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381. "but if that's the case, veto the howard for bynum deal"
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that deal is ridiculous. it's so ridiculous it never would have happened, but whatever. if it did, that's the trade you veto for the interest of the league.

this deal? the lakers lost on this deal. at best it's a break even. you can't veto this.

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578. "^ ^ ^ ^"
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359. "Stern is Willie Mays on the Mets"
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just...fucking up all over the place.

and then trotted out Tim Frank for this:


NBA spokesman Tim Frank said it was "not true" that owners killed the deal. "It wasn't even discussed at the board meeting," he said. "The league office declined to make the trade for basketball reasons."

BASKETBALL REASONS?

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I was vehemently against cp3 coming to NY unless the trade truly helped NO. You know, cause we had a whole lockout about how the little guy was getting fucked by the big teams.

And the Hornets, seeing what happened in Utah and Denver, and what's going on in Orlando, DID THE RIGHT THING.

Did due dilligence, and came away with three high level players who sum is greater than their parts. Odom, Scola, Martin? Ask the dudes who check them if they can play. They can. respectable haul for Cp3

and now this dumb fucker comes in and kills it. NOW where does Chris go? Is it better for New Orleans to watch a guy play every game with his house for sale and his shit in boxes waiting to go?

Not to mention 29 year old Tyson Chandler is getting 15 million a season.

We really had a lockout for nothing.

  

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362. "lol jasonwhitlock with the snark"
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387. "http://www.gifflix.com/files/e4a74b52a819.gif"
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damn shame

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363. "Fukk David Stern and them bitch ass owners....."
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Chris Paul wants to play for the Lakers.....

it's that simple.

either the Hornets get nothing...... or they get something..

Chris Paul wants to be a Laker...

Why???

Because we are the greatest professional sports organization in the history of American sports...

period...



you got a salary cap...you got revenue sharing...you got luxuray taxes...

this ain't baseball...

One thing you can't legislate is a guys desire to want to play where and for whom he wishes...

it makes a lot of fukkin people mad..

but we are the best..

period..

there is no way around it..

this will be one of the all time bitch moves in sports if this is blocked by a commisioner...WITH a salary cap in place...

If I'm Chris Paul..... I refuse to report to camp tommorow and I'm in a court with my lawyer saying that David Stern is blocking my civil right to earn a living where I want to earn a living..

fukk this.

  

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365. "this is incorrect"
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>Because we are the greatest professional sports organization
>in the history of American sports...
>

lol

  

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379. "RE: this is incorrect"
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>
>>Because we are the greatest professional sports organization
>>in the history of American sports...
>>
>
>lol


yeah...u beat me to it...

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392. "This TOO is incorrect"
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>
>Chris Paul wants to play for the Lakers.....


He WANTS to play for the Knicks.

He'll TAKE playing for the Lakers.

  

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364. "David Stern needs to be fired seriously."
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First, you have TWO consecutive work stoppages under your watch. So your original deal was so shitty that you had to stop work again during the next CBA negotiations.

Then as soon as you save the season and get some momentum, you have this clusterfuck.

How does this guy continue to evade any criticism?

  

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386. "fired by whom?"
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393. "The Jews."
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445. "Joe Rogan"
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https://digife.com

  

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368. "Where was Stern when the Wizards"
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traded Chris Webber to the Kings for Mitch Richmond and Otis Thorpe?

Ugh

  

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370. "Unbelievable"
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Talk about an agenda? Holy smokes!!! How you going to Veto a trade to the Lakers and approve a trade to someone else? David Stern is a bitch made motherfucker!! Chris Paul is pissed and should sue this motherfucker. Yeah i am pissed and would be upset if this happened to any other team. What a complete joke?

I guess he really needs LeChoke and his homies to win at least one chip. He better veto any trade involving Chris Paul unless it's to the Cavaliers or Raptors. Competitive balance BULLSHIT!!!

  

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384. "yes, because the league has so egregiously mistreated the lakers"
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FOH, dude, i can see bitching about this particular move but making it out to sound like the league hasn't slurped the lakers and let them get away with bullshit is absurd.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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371. "actually...NO player should report tommorow over this..."
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David Stern has seriously crossed the line here, and the players need to draw a line in the sand right now.

If a player wants to play for a team...he should be able to.

  

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382. "completely agree w. this"
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when Melo picked his team, no one stopped him...just saying

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372. "Chris Paul: Call me CP99% from now on!"
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http://soulhonky.com/OCCUP3.gif

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374. "Russ Granik (dep commissoner for 16 years) was just on ESPN"
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Dude was on there bs'ing about how the deal was rejected because of the fairness of the deal lol and that the league office didn't interfere earlier because they were busy with other things. The NBA is pulling out all the guns in trying to make this seem like it was an actual basketball decision.

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<--The drought is over

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378. "i would just like to hear the actual rational for the 'basketball reason..."
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is it better for new orleans to just let chris paul walk after the season is over? i'm trying to figure out who this was unfair to?

as a laker fan, this wasn't even a great deal for the lakers.

  

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394. "This deal was the first step man...I'm almost positive"
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Mitch has proven his cred as a GM obviously...there's no way he's going into a season with just Drew in the front-court. I've heard that we may have also been getting D West in a sign and trade.

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<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
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L D E A

  

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383. "Donaghy doesn't seem so crazy now, does he?"
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388. "dude it's obvious what happened here"
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league saw the reaction to the heat last year, now sees the lake show setting up to paul and howard and they freaked out to shoot it down.

i aint mad!

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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390. "reaction=best ratings since mj left. gee, how awful."
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c

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399. "He's right. the owners bitched about a small team to big team deal"
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and how it looked after the CBA and they didn't want small teams getting leveraged by players and big teams... so they rejected the deal so now Paul can leave via free agency and leave the Hornets with nothing.

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426. "so if they sell the team before next July, it's good biz for them"
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>and how it looked after the CBA and they didn't want small
>teams getting leveraged by players and big teams... so they
>rejected the deal so now Paul can leave via free agency and
>leave the Hornets with nothing.

cuz what do they care about the long-term competitive prospects of the Hornets? they just want to make sure the arena is as full as possible during the period they're realizing the revenues on it.

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563. "so the guy buying the team & fans won't know CP3 is leaving? - lol"
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625. "smaller wage bill, better revenue even if you lose CP3 as a FA"
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if the largest debt obligation at the organization is the player salaries, why would they try to INCREASE that while REDUCING REVENUE prior to a sale? better to just hand it over to a prospective buyer with better revenue reports and smaller wage obligations, let them take over and begin building themselves.

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391. "RE: Russ Granik (dep commissoner for 16 years) was just on ESPN"
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>Dude was on there bs'ing about how the deal was rejected
>because of the fairness of the deal lol and that the league
>office didn't interfere earlier because they were busy with
>other things. The NBA is pulling out all the guns in trying
>to make this seem like it was an actual basketball decision.


they r already cooking up the story....they got the lakers saying they wanted another big...lol

paul is going to sue the fuck out of the nba...

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377. "damn...."
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this will be a legal cluster fuck...

shit about to get real....

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419. "RE: damn...."
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Sue for what?

There's no grounds to sue.

  

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389. "Wojo: NBA may have changed forever tonight"
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WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
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396. "Oz is a little man behind the curtain named David"
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408. "Y'all already know what it is"
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http://www.leadership-with-you.com/images/philjackson.jpg

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425. "nah, that happened during the lockout, this is the continuation"
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the deal was ram-rodded thru last second to save bball on xmas day. it's just fighting over money, every word uttered about "parity" or "competitive balance" or whatever else is pure dogshit from whomever says it.

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395. "Laker Fans posting real Winkelvoss Twins right now n/m"
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409. "For real, I'm kind of torn here"
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'Cause I think the league is corny for this, but the righteous indignation by Lakers is going from funny to kind of pathetic.

I mean, seriously, people are calling for Stern to retire over THIS? He does all sorts of questionable shit for years, but after this, it's "I've had all I can stand, but I can't stands no more"? Really? You'll have to forgive me if I don't take y'all seriously.

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421. "laker haters posting real david stern/league owners right now. "
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this is complete bullshit and you know it
especially since..

a. other gms applauded the deal, so clearly no wasn't getting fleeced
b. the lakers gave up so much that fans and reporters alike questioned whether the lakers gave up too much
c. hell, even haters were a little happy because it didn't look like a good deal for the lakers on the face of things
d. there was zero interference from the concerned owners until it was agreed upon in principle

you know good and well this isn't just some case of an entitled brat made because things didn't go his way for once (hence your winklevy reference).

anger is completely justifiable for this.

  

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429. "o stfu dude"
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You know any fan base (and it's more than just Laker fans in here) would be angry over something like this, and you know it's completely justified.

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<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
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481. "LOL, seriously."
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___________________

Mar-A-Lago delenda est

  

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397. "Well me and kajun were wrong, stern had all the leverage lol"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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398. "L.O. vigorously discusses tonight's events with vigor (swipe)"
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latimes.com:

>Lakers Blog
Round-the-Clock Purple and Gold

Lamar Odom in 'disbelief' after nearly being traded to Hornets
December 8, 2011 | 8:00 pm

Lamar Odom is still a Laker, but he doesn't sound completely thrilled about it.

Odom admitted that he was shocked and surprised when told Thursday afternoon that the Lakers agreed to trade him to the New Orleans Hornets as part of a deal for point guard Chris Paul. But this evening when he heard that the NBA had killed the trade, Odom said he was in total disbelief over these new developments.

Odom and Pau Gasol had been part of a three-team deal: Paul was coming to the Lakers, Odom was going to the Hornets and Gasol was going to the Houston Rockets, who were going to send Luis Scola, Kevin Martin, Goran Dragic and draft picks to the Hornets.

But NBA commissioner David Stern, reportedly under pressure from the same owners that just ratified the new collective bargaining agreement, killed the deal. The Hornets are owned by the NBA; the league said they rejected the Paul "trade for basketball reasons."

I guess that means Im a Laker if the trade didnt go through, a somber Odom said in a phone interview with The Times. I dont know what to do for the Lakers. Im even weirded out by the league doing what they did. I dont know what to do.

Odom said he thought it was a lie when he was first told about the trade to New Orleans.

And then it doesnt go through, Odom said. Oh, lord. I dont know what Im going to do. Ill pray about it.

The Lakers open training camp Friday at their facility in El Segundo.

Maybe Ill see you there tomorrow (at practice), Odom said. But I doubt it. You dont want to go to no place youre not wanted. Ill try to give them what they want as much as possible.

Odom also felt bad for Gasol.

Imagine how Pau feels, Odom said. Pau came to the Lakers and played here for four years, went to the Finals and lost, won two NBA championships and then got swept (by the Dallas Mavericks this year). Wow! Imagine how he must feel.

Man, Im just in total disbelief about all of this, Odom continued. They dont want my services, for whatever reason. I dont know what Im supposed to do. I was proud to be a Laker, so Ill try to help them in the process as much as possible."

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400. "someone needs to give this dude the slap/shake Johnny Fontaine got"
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get a hold of yourself, LO.

  

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404. "This dude really to stfu and just sleep on it "
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<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
-Kobe speaking to investigators

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403. "mitch:"
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http://twitter.com/#!/KevinDing/status/145000066128674816

  

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407. "Absolutely ridiculous"
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<--The drought is over

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"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
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405. "pau:"
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http://twitter.com/#!/Mike_Bresnahan/status/145000327756791808

  

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411. "at least that's an indirect assessment, Lamar sounding like he's ready"
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to start eating vaseline-flavored gummi bears on webcam later to be shown on E! network.

  

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418. "This is pure gold!!!"
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>to start eating vaseline-flavored gummi bears on webcam later
>to be shown on E! network.

  

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413. "Just talked to Pau at Spectrum (Redondo Beach)..."
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He was pretty down about it. He was also talking to Marc(Gasol) about his family and all the chaos that comes with a potential upheaval.

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<--The drought is over

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410. "confirmed, lakers were just getting started"
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http://twitter.com/#!/KevinDing/status/145001623972884480

  

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412. "david west?"
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414. "That was the rumor I was hearing....additional sign and trade"
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415. "and honestly...I don't even like the trade...."
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giving up LO is too much IMO

just the audacity of Stern to block it..

didn't say shit a few year ago with muthafukkas were basiclly trading guys for themselves just to try and compete with the Lakers (ie. make a trade then the team cuts the guy and he re-signs with the team that traded him)...

but now you want to veto something..

The NBA players should simply refuse to report tommorow....

  

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416. "David Stern just ruined basketball smh"
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You know, I get the owners being assholes.

Fine.

But tell the GM "don't trade Paul if a superstar isn't involved" PRIOR to working on anything if you really give a damn. Don't come in at the last minute and Mutombo the shit.

It was some spineless vindictive shit to do and Stern shoulda been more rational when discussing it with the owners and the owners shoulda been more prudent before the negotiations opened up about what they expected to get for Chris.

this some bull...and I'm not sure how the league gets repaired after this.

I just lost about 25% of my enthusiasm for this season. I mean, no I don't wanna see Kobe/CP3/Bynum either but as with the lockout, the owners/Stern weren't proactive on purpose in order to prove a point.

SMH

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422. "RE: David Stern just ruined basketball smh"
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^^^^^^^U hit it on the head...


And this is not about the Lakers crying fans (get over y'all selves)....It's about what this move by Stern means for the NBA overall...

Not good...

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427. "shortened off-season has left the league in chaos, this is the result"
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423. "Yahoo bringing that ether."
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http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=At_MCea0tR2fjoZ6_q4Uws28vLYF?slug=aw-wojnarowski_chris_paul_lakers_hornets_nba_120811

As one rival executive with strong ties to the league office said, Stern cared about two things: Selling that franchise for the best possible price; and showing the players that they werent going to dictate where teams could trade them. But now, theres no way that the league can allow Chris Paul to be traded at all, otherwise Stern is basically deciding where one of the top players in the league is going versus having any fair process.

Officials from New Orleans, Houston and Los Angeles were stunned Thursday night. The killed trade had ripple affects everywhere in free agency and potential trades, and literally pushed the market into paralysis on the even of training camps opening up.

We were all told by the league he was a trade-able player, and now theyre saying that Dell doesnt have the authority to make the trade? said an NBA executive who had periodic talks with New Orleans throughout the process. Now, theyre saying that Dell is an idiot, that he cant do it his job. (Expletive) this whole thing. Davids drunk on power, and he doesnt give a (expletive) about the players, and he doesnt give a (expletive) about the hundreds of hours the teams put into make that deal.

How do the Lakers explain this to Odom? How does Houston deal with the guys it just tried to trade? Scola and Martin are going to be pissed at them, and who knows how long that takes to get over? Explain to me how the league kills this Pau Gasol deal, but allows Kwame Brown for Pau Gasol?

To me, this makes the league feel like its rigged, that Stern just does whatever Stern wants to do. Hes messed up the competitive balance of this league a lot worse by killing the deal, because youve completely destroyed the planning that New Orleans, Houston did and left them in shambles over this. Ive never been so discouraged about this league, never so down.

I mean, come on: Chris Paul is leaving New Orleans in 66 games. Hes gone. And whats Dell Demps, and that franchise, going to have to show for it?

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428. "And it's all 100% true"
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<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
-Kobe speaking to investigators

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"yup, I hate the Lakers, but I don't disagree, this is sad"


  

          

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555. "DEM FACTS"
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430. "Soooo basically we get 2 talented but emotionally fragile players"
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back after being essentially shown the door.

nice.

  

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432. "This shit really just makes this season some bullshit for me now"
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not even because we're not getting Paul. It's the fact that this shit went on for over a week. To allow this to be put all the way out there before nixing it is some bullshit.

I'm stunned.

  

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435. "it's like the dysfunction in the lockout is a pattern, not just a 1-off"
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who could ever have guessed?

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438. "i didn't even really like that trade"
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like most laker fans, but this just completely soured me as well for this season right now.

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442. "I didn't think it was going to make us the favorites without another"
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move. But by itself it was a fair value trade. Regardless, it would have been nice to have this be nixed before my dude LO gets on radio crying about leaving and having meltdowns on twitter

  

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437. "2 double double forwards and a 20 point scorer plus picks"
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and a young guard with potential wasn't enough? seriously? considering the team he was going to gave up an all star and the reigning 6th man of the year, who is a starter on any other team?

i mean, really? that take is such a bad deal? it's the best one submitted throughout this process.

we all know that any team not named the lakers or knicks would have been able to complete

  

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440. "too bad stats + ticket sales don't align so easily"
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439. "Cavs owner wanted trade blocked *swipe*"
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http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/12/08/the-nba-owners-are-trying-to-kill-the-chris-paul-to-the-lakers-trade/

  

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443. "."
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Fri Dec-09-11 12:27 AM by D_Tox151

  

          

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441. "wow, another dan gilbert letter"
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http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ys-nba_dan_gilbert_email_lakers_hornets_trade_120811

  

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446. "That's that good hate right there. To be quite honest with you"
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he's got a point about the cap space. It's still bullshit though.

  

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451. "i dont agree on the salary cap"
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>he's got a point about the cap space. It's still bullshit
>though.

you can't force the lakers to pay a luxury tax - its there for the purpose of discouraging teams to go over the cap. and of course the lakers are shedding salary, they are trading their #2 and arguably #3 players in return for one player. he is just mad he got nothing for lebron.

  

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456. "I meant as far as the positive for the lakers. I hadn't considered that"
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aspect of it before. Not that makes the deal lopsided and worthy of nixing. If the lakers were Memphis or indiana, the trade goes down.

  

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462. "true, and i think it was obvious the lakers needed to make more moves"
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to shore up their depleted front court

  

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467. "But it only saves the Lakers for a year or so"
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At some point, if they're keeping all three, Paul and Howard are getting $18-$21mil deals. Kobe's keeping his $25. And then you're CRUSHING the cap and sitting right below luxury tax territory by one or two quality players with just three guys on your roster.

And then Gilbert gets the money he's begging for.


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461. "he's saying the deal hurts the interests of the 28 other owners = true"
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the deal allows the Lakers to avoid the tax, meaning it results in a drop to the revenue share the small market teams just secured. it also helps the Lakers competitively, by most estimations, and increases the wage bill in NO.

so basically it costs $$ for the other 28 owners, by shrinking their revenue share, by hurting the ticket sales in NO, and by increasing their wage obligations in NO as well.

Dan Gilbert isn't wrong in protecting his self-interest here, but that's why the league shouldn't own a team in the 1st place.

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463. "that is the shortsighted way to look at it"
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>the deal allows the Lakers to avoid the tax, meaning it
>results in a drop to the revenue share the small market teams
>just secured. it also helps the Lakers competitively, by most
>estimations, and increases the wage bill in NO.
>
>so basically it costs $$ for the other 28 owners, by shrinking
>their revenue share, by hurting the ticket sales in NO, and by
>increasing their wage obligations in NO as well.

the lakers are shedding two players for one. they obviously needed to get more players to make their front court competitive.

>Dan Gilbert isn't wrong in protecting his self-interest here,
>but that's why the league shouldn't own a team in the 1st
>place.

lets be frank - he is mad, as was mark cuban. they are using the fact that they own the team as an excuse.

  

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465. "let's be frank -- this deal might have meant millions to Gilbert himself"
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>lets be frank - he is mad, as was mark cuban. they are using
>the fact that they own the team as an excuse.

I don't care who you are, if you think a company you own a stake in is making a decision which will cost you money, why the fuck would you just passively sit by and let that happen? I mean, even if he figured out it was just going to cost him $50k, why not make a stink? that money could potentially cover the cost of an add'l ticket sales staff in Cleveland, and Gilbert should just give that away for free?

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469. "luxury tax = choice"
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stack players and pay a penalty or lose players and stay under. you can't force the lakers to stay in the luxury tax and depend on that income.

thats the whole point of the fucking system in the first place!

>I don't care who you are, if you think a company you own a
>stake in is making a decision which will cost you money, why
>the fuck would you just passively sit by and let that happen?
>I mean, even if he figured out it was just going to cost him
>$50k, why not make a stink? that money could potentially
>cover the cost of an add'l ticket sales staff in Cleveland,
>and Gilbert should just give that away for free?

he doesn't have a say in how the other teams want to run their organization. if the lakers want to shed salary and become less competitive in the process (which this trade does), thats their right.

and if you didn't want paul going to the lakers, then you should have fucking said something about it before you allowed your GM to shop him to the lakers.

  

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482. "but if you own the trading partner, yes, yes you can force the Lakers"
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>stack players and pay a penalty or lose players and stay
>under. you can't force the lakers to stay in the luxury tax
>and depend on that income.
>
>thats the whole point of the fucking system in the first
>place!

the basketball management of the Hornets wanted to do this deal (and they were right). the ownership didn't, because it helped a competitor while hurting their primary interest (their non-Hornets ownership) as well. it's like giving shit for free to the enemy, why do that if you can stop it? the owners got Stern to stop it here, so LA will have to find another trade partner if they want to improve.

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484. "That argument goes for ANY trade that New Orleans wants to do"
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>
>the basketball management of the Hornets wanted to do this
>deal (and they were right). the ownership didn't, because it
>helped a competitor while hurting their primary interest
>(their non-Hornets ownership) as well. it's like giving shit
>for free to the enemy, why do that if you can stop it? the
>owners got Stern to stop it here, so LA will have to find
>another trade partner if they want to improve.

  

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486. "right, which is why NBA owning NOH is inherently problematic lol"
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494. "and why they shouldn't have given the OKAY to shop CP3"
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in the first place. demps checked with the league repeatedly during this whole process to make sure it was ok.

  

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623. "agreed, but now the mistake is made, so now what?"
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we'll see.

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652. "they need to own up to it"
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lakers are appealing the decision, but the league says they can't appeal because it was the hornet's decision...that points to collusion - so something is not right here.

  

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453. "fuck that and fuck him. he can't have it both ways."
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448. "damn, will this CBA even last 6 yrs? owners still deeply fractured"
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449. "dan gilbert is a faggot."
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574. "I will not argue with this point; he's fully earned that title now."
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man. that approach is just WRONG.
you hate by throwing the money on the table, not like this.

  

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450. "Well no shit, we were giving up two excellent players for 1"
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Of course we were going to see an instant reduction in salary with how contracts are structured. However, the trade basically dictated that our team salary would subsequently increase because we would have to add one, if not more, front-court players.

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457. "Dude got two late first round picks for LeBron fucking James"
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And he's calling Demps' handling of Chris Paul a "travesty"?

If he could, he'd be more than happy to get even Scola, KevMart, and Odom for LeBron instead of getting embarrassed on national television.

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468. "Gotdamn, that was whiny as fuck"
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Why's he all up in Jerry Buss' purse, so to speak?

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470. "haha just like the letters i get in the fantasy baseball league"
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I run everytime a trade happens. Same hyperbole and everything.

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554. "PLEASE ADVISE...."
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Pretty much how every horrible email I've ever gotten at work has ever ended.

  

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571. "THIS motherfucker... man: he's officially Larry Dolan status now"
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611. "each day that goes by, bron looks like less of a dick"
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if this guy were your boss, you'd look for another job too.

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638. "each day the housing bubble & economic collapse makes more sense"
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myopic self-interested delusional dickheads like this at the helm of these quickenloanshark sheisty-ass shops.

  

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663. "not to mention a total disconnect between value + price (yeah, JJ, you)"
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the easiest way to understand what's happening in the NBA is to read Michael Lewis' last two books, as far as I'm concerned.

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687. "NOPE."
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Dan Gilbert is a turdburglar. Certified. Indefensible.

LeBron is basically Donovan McNabb per the SPM Doctrine until further notice; he's not gonna be Reggie White no matter how much you spin that shit. He's a career backpedaler and passive aggressive choke artist who brought some great basketball to a team that is forever mismanaged. Until he gets like Kobe and stops giving a fuck about what people think about him, then you're going to see that Finals appearance over and over again.

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690. "*wraps yellow tape around their failed 'I Don't Blame Bron' agenda*"
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613. "why wasn't this in its original font?"
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444. "good job by Stern.. Lakers dont deserve more all stars"
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455. "enjoy your overpaid center and power forward with a bad back"
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it would seem LJ wasn't enough for you guys to avoid 4's with back issues, but apparently not.

  

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582. "keep crying dude.. for once you don't get your way..."
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....and its KILLING you ...the rest of the league is LOVING this shit right here ..fuck all you cry baby Laker fans, you'll be right off the bandwagon if you miss the playoffs twice

  

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452. "and now D12 supposedly gonna ask for a trade to NJ"
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how will the league handle that?

disclaimer - this does come via broussard

  

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454. "league doesn't own Orlando, they don't have a stake in that decision"
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460. "doesnt matter, commish can veto any trade"
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and he's set a precedent that they don't want players dictating where they go or small markets losing players to bigger markets.

  

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466. "but it isn't precedent setting, because New Orleans is a unique case"
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no matter what bullshit justifications they give, this deal was canceled because the only team it helped was LA + Houston, but they are only 2 of the 29 owners of the Hornets.

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473. "thats bullshit. this trade helped new orleans"
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>no matter what bullshit justifications they give, this deal
>was canceled because the only team it helped was LA + Houston,
>but they are only 2 of the 29 owners of the Hornets.

you can not honestly say that this deal didn't work out for the hornets. if they had a better offer on the table, they would have took it - and they had multiple offers on the table for paul.


  

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475. "Seriously did anyone watch the Cavs last year?"
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And the only reason they got Kyrie is because LA fucked up. They'd be completely fucked it not for that.

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479. "Dan Gilbert fucked himself, not himself + 27 other equal partners"
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491. "And? Shouldn't he have been the one saying, "Look, it may be bad...""
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But I'm living on the other end of it and it sucks. New Orleans has to do something to get a return for CP3.

He fucked himself and is now looking at his owners and saying, "Well, I fucked myself so let's fuck over this team none of us really care about to make sure Jerry Buss and the Lakers don't get a good player and save some money."

It's bullshit.

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478. "this got canceled b/c of $$, not b/c of the talent involved"
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492. "Not according to Stern and the owners"
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Even they know that citing money makes them look like petty jealous bitches so they're trying to spin it as "basketball reasons".

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493. "cmon, stop eating the owner's BS"
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as a laker fan, i wasn't particularly fond of this trade, so i'm not upset about it getting nixed.

its the fact that owners are pulling a complete bull shit move that is upsetting. this has nothing to do with money and everything to do with small market teams blocking this move.

you know if paul was going to milwaukee, this shit would not get nixed.

  

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499. "he's like a fat kid with his mouth agape beneath the soft serve machine"
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520. "but the chocolate ice cream has been replaced with poo"
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621. "why is recognizing owners' motivation eating their BS?"
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ESPN ticker this morning says Stern is saying "more valuable" to have Paul in NO, sooo ... my interpretation last night was 100% correct? because I saw THRU the bullshit they were saying last night? just because I see their motivation doesn't mean I agree. they can offer whatever reason they want, but I'm going to believe it's because they are worried about their investment in New Orleans.

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653. "whats their investment going to look like when CP3 walks out"
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with nothing in return?

  

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664. "smaller payroll, better '10-11 revenue #s, better investment value"
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let the new owners take on whatever contracts they want, the NBA is saying we're not taking on any further debt obligations (i.e. expensive contracts that extend beyond this year). they could give a fuck if this makes the Hornets uncompetitive, anybody looking to invest will be considering many, many factors besides just the '11-12 / '12-13 W-L records.

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472. "What perfect timing!"
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You vetoed that deal? Well look at the shit Orlando's getting for me.

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471. "Kenny Smith: Dan Gilbert rollin' in his grave right now!"
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474. "Hunter should get players to boycott signing with the Hornets"
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Clearly this is not an organization concerned about its future or winning basketball games. Until it is sold, I don't believe it's in players' best interests to align their futures with this club.

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476. "owners can also shoot down any deal that improves NO. "
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in other words, if a deal were to be struck that would put the hornets in a position to win big, the owners can conceivably knock that down as well. this is a clusterfuck and a huge conflict of interest for a ton of reasons. teams have the power to cockblock a deal that can improve a rival team. i wonder if there is a legit legal issue ther.e

  

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483. "I'm with the owners on this one."
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Odom and Gasol are on the other side of their careers and would never be a key piece to help either Houston or New Orleans go deep in the playoffs. And as Gilbert said, the Lakers would get a top 3 pg and clear major cap space.

The lockout was "supposed" to be to help the smaller market teams have a better chance of competing and increasing revenue. This trade would have only made it even tougher for teams out West to compete, especially if the Lakers would make more transactions for a quality 4 man and help gain depth.

Yeah; it sucks, because in theory Paul should be able to go where he chooses and Odom, Gasol, Scola, etc now find themselves in the awkward situation of having to come back to teams that wanted to trade them. But that Paul trade wouldn't help out the league at all, and we're talking about a time right now where the NBA's future earnings and fan interest are in limbo after this lockout.
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487. "They hurt a small market team even more by not letting the market"
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play out. This was probably the best deal available for Paul.

Now you run the risk of them not finding another fair trade partner and losing Paul for nothing.

  

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496. "RE: They hurt a small market team even more by not letting the market"
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>play out. This was probably the best deal available for
>Paul.
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>Now you run the risk of them not finding another fair trade
>partner and losing Paul for nothing.



Yeah...this^^^^^

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497. "how do you know?"
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How do we know if that was the best available deal and not Paul accepting it because it was the Lakers?
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500. "Because they pulled the trigger on it?"
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Obviously there aren't a lot of other teams willing to give up pieces for Paul if he's not going to sign an extension with them. I don't know why you threw that in there like every deal won't be contingent upon that.

  

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503. "So the only team Paul will play for is the Lakers? Yeah ok."
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504. "That's how your deductive reasoning works?"
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507. "You're the one that said it, not me."
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You're inferring that Chris Paul will not do a sign and trade with any team outside of the Lakers. And I call bullshit.
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510. "I said that was probably the BEST deal. Where did you get ONLY?"
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514. "he pulled it out of his ass. it's a habit. "
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521. "your dickhead behavior is bad enough in wrestling threads."
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why are you trying to bring it here too?
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518. "You said "if Paul isn't willing to sign an extension" with other teams."
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That implied he wasn't willing to sign an extension with them.
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526. "Jesus Christ you're an idiot. "
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529. "Jesus has nothing to do with your feeble-mindedness."
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532. "You're hilarious. I thought this was a serious debate at first."
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655. "should have listened to me"
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this guy's a complete joke

  

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614. "he made it clear that he wouldn't sign an extention with other teams"
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besides the Knicks or the Lakers..

you must not be paying attention to what is going on if you don't know that.

  

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511. "yes. that actually exactly how his reasoning works"
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he has tunnel vision like few others

  

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517. "LOL"
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489. "fuck that. i hope the hornets lose CP3 for nothing and FUCKING FOLD"
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see how Stern's legacy and the NBA's reputation hold up after that

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498. "fine with me."
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I believe they should have contracted the team after the lockout.

But regardless, you can't have the NBA own a team and pretty much demolish it in order to put another All-World player on the league's signature team. That's precisely why they opted out of the CBA to begin with.
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501. "the deal they got was far from "demolishing""
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the deal they got was pretty good. they got front court depth, size, a ton of rebounding, scoring, young talent, and picks.

  

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505. "Paul is that entire franchise. They had nothing else on that roster."
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Odom is over the hill and Scola is nothing more than a roleplayer. That team wouldn't make the playoffs if they wanted to.

Nobody else would bring people into that arena, or sell merchandise or give any interest to that team even within that city. You might as well have contracted them if that deal was made.
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"as usual, you're using hyperbole and you're flat out WRONG"


  

          

  

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527. "yeah, because the 09-10 season didn't happen."
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I forgot.
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506. "The hornets were not being demolished"
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That is hilarious.

And if the owners REALLY wanted to restore competitive balance, they wouldn't have agreed to a lux tax.

  

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513. "the deal would've made them BETTER and kept them competitive"
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now they'll be the Cavs post-lebron instead of Denver post-Melo

fuck em. hope they die on the NBA's (Stern's) hands.

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490. "So losing Chris Paul for nothing helps New Orleans compete?"
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Because that's what the Hornets have now. Instead of maybe being able to swing Scola, Odom, and Martin in separate deals at the trade deadline or maybe just putting them out there to win some games this year, they'll have an unhappy Chris Paul and a bunch of also rans since I can't see anyone good signing with the Hornets right now.

Meanwhile, Orlando is going to have to deal Dwight Howard for Brook Lopez and two mid-to-late first round picks and that's cool.

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502. "They won't lose Paul for nothing."
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Paul can talk all of that yang he wants, but he isn't sitting out all year and there's still more trades to be had.

But people still remember how Kobe manipulated his way out of Charlotte, they remember the Gasol trade, they remember the numerous ways the Lakers and the Celtics had set up bullshit deals in order to stay on top of the league. And the owners have made it clear that it'll cease. And I can't blame them.
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509. "you understand that CP3's contract is over after this season right?"
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he is gonna go wherever he wants after these 66 games and NO will get nothing in return. if they trade him to a team that he doesnt want to sign with then he will play the season and that team will have lost players trading for him and will get nothing when he walks away after the season.

how do you not understand this?

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512. "yup. And he'll be traded before then."
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516. "wat? you really dont understand any of this do you? lol"
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523. "He thought Paul was threatening to hold out all year like football. LOL"
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528. "I understand completely. The problem is, you don't."
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No player is going to not report for an entire year, and the NBA isn't going to cave on the deal. Paul will report to the Hornets eventually if a trade isn't made before then. It's simple as that.
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530. "LOL You are lost as shit."
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Him sitting out the entire year isn't even relevant. It's him walking at the end of the year once he's a free agent.

  

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539. "smh"
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why would a team trade players for a guy that can walk, thus giving away players with NO return

  

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543. "the very same reason the Lakers attempted a trade today."
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Because he could help them out immediately.

And he'll accept a trade too because he'll then get max money on a long contract.

All of this handwringing will be over with by next week. Paul wants more money, and if someone offers it to him he'll do it.
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546. "This is ridiculous"
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Paul most likely would have re-signed with the Lakers because

1. its a big market
2. they have the opportunity to win this year as well as future years

He would have taken a pay cut to go to NY, so he obviously isn't only out for money. He wants to win.

There aren't many other teams that can offer him a chance at an instant championship, not to mention he is most likely upset by what just happened so he might just play the rest of the year with NO then walk afterwards.

  

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561. "If he simply wanted more money he could resign in Nawlins - lololol"
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556. "bullshit... you build the mechanism to protect small market teams"
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IN THE CBA.. were they just negotiating that shit.. You don't stomp out legit deals by making up the rules as you go along.
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485. "I'm too blind in Lakers hate to see the bad news here"
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Then again, I would be all for sacrificing a packed school bus off a cliff if it meant Kobe & CP3 was not to play with each other so I'm the wrong person to ask.

  

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488. "Granger 33: I'm changing my name to Stern's Bitch"
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Due to the sabotaging of the LA/NO trade by david stern, and following in the footsteps of my athlete brethern Metta World Peace and Chad Ochocinco, I'm changing my last name to "Stern's Bi#&h" #effectiveimmediately


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495. "stern wont dare fine him tho lol. well played granger."
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508. "Sidenote: Am I the only one who sees the Lakers WANT to dump Lamar & Dre..."
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Cause...
I remember game 4.

Doesn't anybody else find it a bit more than coincidental that Odom and Bynum are mentioned in any and all trade scenarios?

THE BUSS FAMILY IS DONE WITH THEM!

They don't give a fuck that LO & AB are good players,
they know that their organizations has and always will re-up.

Those of you acting like getting rid of either of those guys is a big deal to the Lakers are not seeing the bigger picture.

The Lakers are in a position of weakness because of their desire to dump both of them - they're just willing to get rid of Pau too cause they know they'll prolly need to since they're DEFINITELY going to get rid of Odom and Bynum.

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515. "Jim Buss loves Bynum. He won't be moved for anybody but Howard."
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525. "loveD"
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That time has passed.

It is clear that Bynum for Howard is their big hope for obvious reasons,
but if Jim Buss still loved him so much it wouldn't even be a point of discussion.

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531. "DH is the #1 center in the league. Every center is tradeable for him."
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534. "I am a Magic fan. I agree."
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That is not the point I am trying to make.

I am saying that the Lakers are done with Bynum and Odom and will find a way to get rid of both of them even if it doesn't mean getting both CP3 and Howard (which now looks to be an impossibility)

Before word got out that they would pursue Paul
the general (presumably leaked) thinking was the Orlando would get Bynum and Odom for Howard.
Then, when they decided they could move for Paul, they planned to send Gasol and Odom to NO with obvious plans to deal Bynum and smaller players for Howard.

In either scenario Bynum AND Odom are moved.

This is not coincidence.

If they are so gung ho about getting Howard, why do they so easily let their 2nd and 3rd best assets go to NO instead of holding on to one to hopefully sway Orlando to push the button?

Because they saw an opportunity, did the math, and realized they could do it all.

At the end of the day the Howard deal WILL get done, I have no debate over that point.
What I am saying is that NO MATTER WHAT TRADE TAKES PLACE neither Bynum nor Odom will be Lakers by the end of the year.

And the Lakers organization rejoices over this.

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536. "oh, and a second sidenote:"
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As to your "every center is tradeable" argument:
I am not 100% convinced that the Clippers would give up Blake Griffin for Dwight Howard.
I could be convinced but right now I'm not seeing it.

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542. "Griffin isn't a center, DeAndre Jordan play C for the Clippers"
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544. "furthermore, I'd trade Blake for Dwight"
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easily

  

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547. "but would the Clips?"
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He's one of the new faces of the league, and judging by other parts of their roster he typifies the faster pace they want to play.
PLUS
his potential as an offensive player is much higher than Howard's and it isn't like Eric Gordon is so good they can rely on him to create everybody else's shot.
Of course they WANT Howard, I just don't think they deal Griffin to do it.

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545. "you're right, I fucked up"
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But the Griffin for Howard thing has been mentioned,
and I'm just not convinced.

Course, it's mostly dumb ass pundits so it shouldn't be listened to in the first place.

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519. "da fuck? bynum, odumb and pau are our only tradeable assets"
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it aint like we WANT to get rid of them. we HAVE to because nobody wants anything else.

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524. "OR you keep the core that won you 2 rings"
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533. "...and got swept in the Conference Semis."
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535. "thank you for helping make my point"
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This isn't about Howard and Paul,
though they are both top tier players any team would want -
it's about the Lakers WANTING to blow this thing up.

I think teams should exploit this.

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558. "lol - they don't want to blow it up..."
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they want CP3 and Howard.. - lol
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637. "time will tell"
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537. "the NBA is one bad soap opera"
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a completely incompetent league

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540. "Pretty much"
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541. "Shit gets even realer, ESPN radio is speculating a Kardashian influence "
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I definitely don't believe that but from L.O.'s point of view - its crazy to go to NO after finally getting a taste of fame. He is now part of that empire

  

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548. "nothing good has ever come of the phrase "ESPN is speculating""
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Even their new golden child Simmons called them out in a recent column.

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549. "True and as I said I don't believe it"
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I just didn't think of L.O.'s connection with the Kardashians as a reason for not wanting to leave LA

None of this really matters, but its somewhat pertinent to the topic

  

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550. "ok, I see what you're saying"
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but at the same time - why would any player want to leave LA?

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551. "funny. that was the first thing i thought of"
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you know that orc looking gal khloe was pisssssssssed.

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552. "Simmons been dissing them on the low for about 3 years now"
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If ESPN weren't a BEAST, I'd be expecting Grantland to split from them sometime in the next 5 years

That little bar on their front page is valuable real estate tho

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553. "I think it's the TV stuff that keeps him around"
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Cause he's got a pretty nice little army built up at this point, colonels and everything.

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559. "You know who loses the most in this???? Mike Brown"
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Chris Paul would have been his ace in making sure Kobe doesn't hijack the team, because he knows he cannot realistically count on Derek Fisher to play that role.

  

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560. "also, just in terms of running an offense"
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Chris Paul's had three coaches in his career, two of them in the last two seasons. He's an amazing playmaker and, maybe more importantly, he's recently grown accustomed to learning new systems on the fly.

Kobe's been playing under the triangle for what, a decade? He's played under 5 coaches but few of them had any positive influence on that team other than Jackson during Kobe's tenure, so isn't it in the Lakers' absolute best interest to have a point guard who's not only the best in the league at executing plays but spent the past couple years dealing with coaching adjustments leading the team through the switch from an offensive coach like Jackson to a defensive one like Brown?

And then you have to factor in that two of the more openly emotional players in the league are now playing for a team they know thinks they're expendable under the right circumstances...it's just a bummer for L.A. I hate to feel for them, but. Man.

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562. "Yup...oh well, guess NO has to send him to the Knicks now"
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LOL

  

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564. "LAKER HATE IS LEAGUE WIDE!!!! YOU SEE IT!!!!!!!!!!!"
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LOL
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Castro
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565. "Please, this was about Arn Tellem fucking over Leon Rose."
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567. "Schadenfreude!!!"
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568. "From the outside looking in, meaning I'm a casual NBA fan..."
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This was a good trade for the Hornets. No, a GREAT trade for them.
They were getting 4 better than average players, and a 1st round draft pick, for a superstar with a bad knee (snark, but still).

This was an OK trade for the Rockets. Pau has more than you guys give him credit for left in the tank, and he could have really helped the Rockets, as I am assuming, they were also not done making moves for the year.

This was a bad move for the Lakers, IF they couldn't get anybody else. Trading 2 7 footers for a PG, albeit the best in the league, doesn't seem like a good look. They prob weren't going to land D12, BUT, if they got David West (which sounds like it's in the cards), then the Paul trade is a great move. Their team goes from: Fisher, World Peace, Kobe, Pau, Bynum
to: CP3, World Peace, Kobe, West, Bynum
That is a kickass team STILL, and they would still be on the market in years to come for eventually replacing Mamba.

If anything, ironically, this stupidity has made the NBA much more intriguing to a guy like me.

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569. "players need to go back on strike"
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570. "No they don't."
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572. "if there is a demand for their services in a city they want to be in"
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they should be allowed to play where they want bottom line.

The rules are already in place where they would have to take a pay cut to move to a desirable market with other stars but this is just BS. And this is coming from a fan from one of the smallest markets in the league

  

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658. "uh...not quite"
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The very first experience pro athletes have being a "pro" is being drafted.

You really have no say in the matter...you go where they want you, not where u want.

If you want to play in a certain place, you play out the contract u signed, and once ur a free agent, THEN you choose where YOU want to play.

If the contract is still in place, you have no rights to demand anything....play out ur contract!

You signed it; it's ur obligation.

Once ur contract is up, you are free.

Indentured servitude, yes....but thats the way of professional sports.

You get paid millions.....

The trade off is lack of options while under contract....BUT....you're highly compensated for any inconvenience in the meantime.

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583. "They were never on strike to begin with"
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594. "thank you."
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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LAbeathustla
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573. "are laker fans serious in here?? we just came off a dam lockout"
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you want it one way..

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584. "wow, you're dense"
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615. "It's hilarious how they're telling us how we should react to this"
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I don't quite see the RIGHTEOUS INDIGNATION!!!!!!!! that these hater-ass dudes swear is permeating the post

We all know what kind of fuckery this is and have responded accordingly

These other cats can barely hide their relief about the deal dying, and in their joy want to "tease" and chastise Laker fans about the quashed deal

Real grown-up yo

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622. "i was relieved the deal got nixed, i was enraged when i found out why"
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633. "shutcho dickridin ass up..did u even follow the lockout?"
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this contradicts everything that was about....get off the lakers dick and look at the rest of the league for a minute...and for the record i was WITH the trade....giving my team gasol and depleting your front line to bynum and metta world peace..i'm with it..FOH

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667. "Then why not negotiate for a franchise tag in the new CBA?"
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If competitive balance was such an important issue, why wasn't it directly addressed in the CBA by allowing for a franchise tag by teams, thus negating a player's leverage to dictate where he is traded? The fact is the owners want it both ways man and circumvented the just ratified CBA. It's disgusting.

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575. "The Atlantic weighs in"
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http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2011/12/rejected-trade-shows-nba-hasnt-solved-any-its-problems/45968/

Money Quote:

The trade may have proved to the small-market owners that nothing has changed, but Stern's move to appease them may have made the situation even worse. The trade was a good deal for New Orleans, who acquired several players and a draft pick for a superstar that would be leaving as a free agent at the end of the year anyway. It embarrassed Demps and undermined his ability to make future deals. It angers the players involved, who now have to return to locker rooms where they obviously aren't wanted. It won't sit well with the rest of league's players who already feel they were mistreated by owners during the lockout and now have even less reason to trust Stern.

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579. "what a complete clusterfuck."
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unreal.

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581. "that sums it up pretty much perfectly"
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587. "basically..."
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577. "http://i44.tinypic.com/abrrs0.jpg"
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580. "ya know what..i'm all for contraction now."
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nothing will ever make the system 'fair' for small market teams.

not a thing.

edit: maan if you bought a team in a small market i'm sure the price you paid reflected the product you bought. you didn't buy a team in NY or LA. You can't expect to get back what teams in big markets get back.

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585. "That's the worst part of this. The NBA outbid Ellison for the Hornets!"
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Ellison said, "I'll pay 70 million over the valuation to get this team and move them to San Jose, a bigger market."

The NBA said no. We'll buy the team so we can keep them in this smaller market that's already proven once that they couldn't support an NBA team.

The NBA had a chance to have one of the richest men in the world and a man who throws around millions like it's nothing (in other words, the IDEAL owner) take over the team and move it to a competitive market and they opted for this clusterfuck of a situation.

Ridiculous.

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586. "LOL @ Stern now trying to convince owner to OK deal"
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LOL. What a fucking disaster.

"Mark Stein: CP3 Trade Latest: Sources tell ESPN com that teams involved in three-team trade blocked by David Stern appealing to NBA to reverse decision."

In the end, this is all on Stern. After a contentious lockout, he never should have approved the deal before sending it to the board of governors aka the owners of the Hornets. And it's not like it would have been hard to do, they had a schedule meeting that day anyway!

Stern's gotta retire. Fucking up his legacy was one thing but now he's fucking up the league.

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rjc27
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588. "this is gonna end up going through"
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589. "Yep. Stern acted before thinking here. He'll let it go through."
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591. "He acted before thinking but it's not up to him"
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The owners of the team aka the other owners in the league were the ones who shot it down. He has to convince them to get their panties out of a twist and let the deal happen. But I could see guys like Dan Gilbert standing by their idiocy.

What Stern NEVER should have done is okayed the deal without checking with them first.

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610. "but under the hornets structure, the NBA owners should not interfere"
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with trades and such...thats why they have demps running the basketball side of the team.

  

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626. "and they'll stand by the idiocy cuz they see it as their $$ on the line"
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and a substantial amount of cash at that.

of course, what the league is TOTALLY failing to see is that they ALL have a shared interest in making the NBA work for the coastal teams + central teams alike, and this move might look positive to them on a simple balance sheet, but in the greater value of the overall NBA brand, they've done nothing but shit all over that from the moment Dirk lifted the trophy last June.

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608. "yeah, how the eff will the hornets trade CP now?"
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stern should just admit that it was a mistake. it might be too late now tho.

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612. "it has to. the other options are collusion and killing NOLA basketball"
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and the coll

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632. "Agreed, Stern will OK the appeal, knowing he fucked up...n/m"
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590. "not sure why ppl are surprised or mad the trade was rejected"
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we knew the league owned the team before hand
dan gilbert raises some legit points in his email and i think the owners had the right (legally and from a basketball perspective) to veto the deal
it's really not much deeper than that
keeping CP on the hornets this year is better for the league overall
AS in a small market team
when CP leaves for "nothing" the hornets will actually get cap space
and CP gets to find a team in a fair market as opposed to signing a max deal on a team currently over the cap

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Cenario
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592. "all that 'could' be well and good if the league informed N.o. and demps"
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that that was the situation in the 1st place.

Instead they informed demps that he had full autonomy to make a deal. Meanwhile, Demps wasted all this time trying to make a deal for cp3, meanwhile they got like 6 players on the roster.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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southphillyman
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595. "the only mistake really was the deal being "completed" and really"
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i'm not even sure the deal was OFFICIALLY done
usually players have to pass physicals and all of that before anything is locked in stone
but i agree that it shouldn't have even gotten as far as it did
the problem is Demps has to operate and construct these trades under some degree of anonymity since he answers to all the other owners and there will be conflicts of interest etc if he gets owner approve first and then proceeds wit a trade

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597. "no..the owners and nba need to let him know what parameters"
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he has to work with up front..ie get the best talent in return, get under the cap, save the most money etc

How does he know whats the best deal to make if he doesn't know what the goal is?

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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605. "he has to act in the best interest of his team....like every other GM"
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owners can still reject whatever he comes up with though

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Cenario
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609. "what are the best interest of the team?"
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..ie get the best talent in return, get under the cap, save the most money etc

all of those are in the best interest of the team but he cant do all.

Its just like a regular gm and owner situation, if the owner gives the go ahead to trade a player the gm needs to know what the owner is trying to get in return, money, picks, cap space and then he can try to make a deal.

why should demps waste his time trying to make a deal or other gm's try to deal with n.o. after this debacle?

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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620. "letting free agents walk for nothing is not in the best interest of "
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the team..

See Cleveland...

  

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599. "cap space to sign who? no one wants to play in N.O."
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southphillyman
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606. "what good teams can afford to pay CP on the open market?"
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i can't think of any off the top of my head
let him go out there and get what ever the market dictates under the constraints of the salary cap
if he can't get the money...or can't even get SIGNED by a team he wants....then re up with the Hornets
that's the advantage teams should have with their stars imo
this whole culture of small teams funneling all their stars to big markets due to the fear of losing them has to stop some how
what's the point of drafting well if teams don't get long term rewards?
bron, bosh and melo kinda get a pass for being the first wave
but the nba can't allow this to become a trend

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624. "What's funny is how nobody is talking about this."
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What teams will have the cap space to sign CP3 to a max deal after this year?

The Clippers, Warriors and Celtics come to mind. But CP has been crying about going to them. The Lakers and Knicks won't even be able to pretend to sign him as a FA.

Either way, the Hornets still have his Bird Rights and will almost certainly sign and trade him, wherever he decides to go. They are not dead in the water like everyone is shouting.

Not by a long shot.

  

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630. "yup, and the Gilbert's of the world are HAPPY taking the revenue share"
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aka why revenue sharing actually ISN'T in the best interests of the league when the players say it's the silver bullet to solve the lockout. idiots like Gilbert would rather collect a tax from LA than figure out how to make his team profitable.

and then as long as they keep their wage bill small, and NY + LA keeps their wage bill high, he'll have a shot at collecting discarded assets via free agency and getting paid to play shitty basketball in the meantime all the while.

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635. "I see your point, but what's the alternative?"
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Small market teams need some kind of advantage, because the top players won't otherwise want to go there.

If the Cavs, Hornets, etc. are receiving luxury tax revenue, it allows them to spend more as well. And I'm fairly confident in saying that every owner wants a winning product on the court, and this revenue sharing system should help certain teams who can't get over the hump of mediocrity due to financial constraints.

Also, Gilbert spent A TON of money to keep LeBron happy, so I'm not sure why he is used as an example of a cheap owner.

  

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648. "personally? I think they should have created a capless roster slot"
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i.e. a slot that takes a cap hold of X (let's say $20M) and you can then pay that player whatever salary you think he deserves. one slot per team. that means small markets who saw it as valuable to overpay a certain player could. that also means teams like LA would use their slot on Kobe, and every mega star like Paul or Howard would have to choose to take a capped salary to play alongside Kobe, or take the uncapped slot another team in the league without a superstar would surely be offering.

but the players chose to subsidize the middle class via the superstars earning less, and I can hardly fault them. but outside of that, I really don't know how to fix it. the economic disparities of the various markets is too much to overcome without a hard cap, but hard caps are inherently unfair, sooo...

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651. "He should have gone to the Celtics. It would have been a good situation"
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601. "no, the league has to deal with conflict of interest"
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they put demps in charge to address this, promised he had full authority for player decisions and would only intervene for financial reasons.

  

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603. "How did all that "cap space" work out for Cleveland? If anything Stern....."
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fucked the Hornets over, they could have gotten some useful players for Paul and remained competitive, now they'll lose him and get nothing.

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649. "prolly helped Gilbert balance the books if nothing else"
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which is really all that shithead cares about.

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604. "disagree with this:"
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>>keeping CP on the hornets this year is better for the league overall<<<

Maybe better than CP going to somewhere like Atlanta or Denver...

But there is know way its better than CP going to the Lakers. Imagine the ratings for the Christmas game is CP is there with Kobe? Imagine the water cooler talk, even if they aren't that good.

Now, instead of folks talking basketball, they will be talking about how Stern blocked a trade and how the NBA shot itself in the foot - again.

The past is my foundation, not my preoccupation.

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607. "league had great ratings last yr...ton of teams still did poorly financi..."
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what was NO avg. attendance last yr?
i know philly had a few games where it had to be less than 8K ppl there
water cooler talk doesn't impact TV deals that are already signed
and it doesn't put butts in arenas
they need more balance

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617. "Exhale, nigga. Shoop Shoop, and shit."
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Y'all muhfuckas are hilarious.

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673. "RE: not sure why ppl are surprised or mad the trade was rejected"
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>we knew the league owned the team before hand
>dan gilbert raises some legit points in his email and i think
>the owners had the right (legally and from a basketball
>perspective) to veto the deal

What legit points did Gilbert have? He was just pissed that the Lakers were getting a young all star and he still is bitchy because of losing LeBron. Every team involved would have benefitted from the Paul trade.

What's the point in having a GM if he can't manage the team?

  

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593. "The trade should have happened, fuck stern"
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Time for him to go

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596. "http://tinyurl.com/csa9vsq"
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http://tinyurl.com/csa9vsq

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598. "fuck are the knicks doing, fam?"
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http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/217201/Knicks_Offered_Stoudemire_To_Hornets_

The Knicks attempted to deal Amare Stoudemire in an attempt to pry Chris Paul from the Hornets, according to a source.

Stoudemire has four years, $84 million remaining on his contract, which is uninsurable.
Via New York Post

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600. "trying to make a good deal?"
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and you know the owners woulda shot it down anyway...so glad that didn't happen.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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641. "Dell Demps laughed at that shit bro. "
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Probably couldn't even get all 3 syllables of the word Amare out before Dell spit up his crawfish etoufee.

Amare at $84 mil is hard to even read.



  

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602. "simmons nailed it"
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http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7334835/the-sixth-day-nba-christmas

  

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616. "so what players are tradeable from New Orleans and why?"
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is it everyone but Paul? that's odd.

  

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619. "collusion"
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http://www.hoopsworld.com/chris-paul-veto-commisioner-power-or-collusion/

  

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629. "collusion like a motherfucker."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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627. "Jesus! Archive!"
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"This is dedicated to whom it may concern."-Donny Hathaway

  

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631. "And the season didn't even start yet."
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628. "Dan Gilbert's comments shows how wrong Stern was in handling"
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Dan Gilbert's actions towards LeBron last year.

Stern publiclly gave Gilbert a pass for the character attack that Gilbert did against LeBron last year. By doing so he empowered so called small market owners to act and behave in a way that is detrimental to the league..

as the commisioner, the fact that players can play for whom they like at some point in their careers should not be something the commisioner of the NBA should stand in the way of. It's the rules of the game...it's the reality of modern professional sports, and by looking to stand against that, it causes a serious problem in the league.

the attitude that Dan Gilbert displayed last year, and displays now should be rejected by all involved in the NBA...

the crying and complaining of the so-called small market teams is a cop out for poor management that should not be given credibility... New York and Los Angeles teams don't win titles every year in pro sports...it's a myth that locale is what is the determining factor in this.... It's the quality of an organization....

Look at the Spurs....look at what's happening in Okla City.....Who won the NBA title last year?

  

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639. "yup. gilbert is the bad guy in the Decision, not Bron"
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643. "why would LeBron be a bad guy for exercising his rights as"
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a Free Agent??

Don't hate the player...hate the game.

  

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644. "NO AGENDA REDIRECTION ALLOWED."
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Dr Claw
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642. "exactly... he lost my support for life off this move."
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>the attitude that Dan Gilbert displayed last year, and
>displays now should be rejected by all involved in the NBA...
>
>
>the crying and complaining of the so-called small market teams
>is a cop out for poor management that should not be given
>credibility... New York and Los Angeles teams don't win titles
>every year in pro sports...it's a myth that locale is what is
>the determining factor in this.... It's the quality of an
>organization....
>
>Look at the Spurs....look at what's happening in Okla
>City.....Who won the NBA title last year?

his whole approach was just hatin' like shit. no real concern for the Hornets. and basically shitting on Demps... who knows how this would have turned for the Lakers. if they somehow Yankeed out and got Dwight, that'd be something. but as I've learned recently... kaufing all that you can get to stack the deck doesn't ensure success.

Stern was bullshit. Dill-bert basically ate the NBA's poo-poo.

As long as Kyrie ain't on the court, I want to see Kobe come to town and lead that good GUILE with Mike Brown giving direction. that's how much Dill-bert pissed me off on that.

this mofo needs to stop trying to gangster his way around and actually take some cues from Marc Cuban. Run this shit like you care about it.

  

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654. "Gilbert got a hefty fine for that actually"
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not that he regrets it, and he's rich enough where it doesn't hurt him, but as much as I hate David Stern I'd hardly call that a pass

  

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634. "....SPORTSMANSHIP!!!...(c)"
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\o/

Nigga I'm FAST....*pyoon*
ARE YOU TRYING TO RACE?!

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636. "real talk, if it were a diff team than the lakers, these shenanigans"
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would piss me right the fuck off.


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681. "LOL I was saying the same thing to my boy"
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That it happened to the Celtics' arch rival is the only reason I'm not going crazy over this.

  

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640. "Question: if your N.O would you really make this trade?"
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645. "N.O... DID make this trade, so uh... "
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647. "I mean, they weren't trying to get Brawn-ed out... or so they thought"
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but I'm sorry. I'm on #TeamLakerFans with this shit. the potential collateral damage from this collective cockblocking is not worth it, esp. considering the labor issues with this league.

  

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646. "I personally felt we had more to gain by waiting a few more days."
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As free agency plays out, teams might get more desperate. But the bottom line is, CP3 aint staying so we have to make a deal.

If this was the best deal on the table, so be it.

Hornets nation was VERY mixed on it, obviously. Losing CP3 is hard to stomach, no matter the return.

  

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The Analyst
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650. "What offer was better?"
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656. "stern is putting this on sperling - his only OUT"
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and its completely legal.

  

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657. "Magic files tampering charges-Shit gets deeper! (c) Denzel"
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http://deadspin.com/5866682/and-now-the-magic-may-file-tampering-charges-against-teams-talking-to-dwight-howard

The past is my foundation, not my preoccupation.

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662. "tampering is such bullshit."
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why can't another company try to woo a star employee? why can't dwight talk to whoever he wants?

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671. "because until recently no organization was allowed to contact players"
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<----

Larry Otis!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeM89CITvMc

and his free new singles, produced by Tough Junkie!
http://soundcloud.com/toughjunkie/sets/larry-otis-leaks

  

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674. "lol no"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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666. "so wait, is this about the 1am drunk dial or something else? lol"
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what a joke.

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The Analyst
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669. "Apparently the Nets met with Dwight last night w/o informing ORL nm"
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LA2Philly
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661. "Circumventing the system put in place with no grounds to do so"
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Completely reflects Stern's arrogance and authoritarian nature.

Dell Demps had been given full autonomy the entire time and constantly checked in with the league to make sure that he did have the authority and green light to make a move, particularly involving CP3....and never was there an indication that he didn't.

I still can't wrap my head around the absolute ridiculousness taking place.

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<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
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665. "i just came to say 7x plat? DAMN"
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nothing makes a sports league relevant like superstar (attempted) trades

  

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668. "It's not the actual trade generating most of the replies...."
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It's Stern deciding to take matters into his own hands, lying about the rationale, and circumventing the entire system (which btw was just ratified on the SAME day as the said trade, which makes the decision that much more ridiculous).

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<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
-Kobe speaking to investigators

L D E A

  

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683. "and months of NO NBA TO TALK ABOUT"
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that was stern's biggest mistake. doing this shit in the ramp up to a lockout shortened season

  

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670. "I hope the trade goes through."
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I have years more of Kobe on coattails material!

  

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675. "^^^focused^^^"
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686. "^ Occupy Fail Street ^"
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<---- 5....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlgiritpmfo

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Occupy Big Government..

Fannie, Freddie dole out big bonuses
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676. "Chris Broussard---Union gives the NBA deadline on Paul trade "
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The union is about to go for a showdown against Stern...If the news of the trade is picking back up is true, it needs to happen soon...Because Paul is coming off as the good guy in this...



From his Twitter:

Chris Broussard
"Union has told NBA if suitable CP trade not made by Monday, it will pursue other options, including litigation, sources say."

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

  

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678. "Rip..bought out (waived)...No amnesty....Hmmmm......"
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@freeppistons Freep Pistons
Source: Rip Hamilton has been waived by the Pistons. Will be bought out. Not an amnesty transaction.


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So what does this mean? Bulls (may be too old...I want them to go for Crawford, who creates his own shot, and a back-up PG)...Miami? Knicks?

Interesting...

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677. "Limited Intellectual Capital?"
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679. "wow demps is toting the company line...poor guy."
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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680. "Bulls pull Bogans from practice floor (trade coming up for Crawford?)"
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Looks like the Bulls got something happening here...Bogans gets pulled off the court......Rumors are they are talking to J. Crawford's people for a deal involving Bogans, Korver, plus our first round draft pick....AND the Bulls are truing to sign Rip Hamilton on the cheap, who just got bought out of his contract...If we get BOTH of those guys, the Bulls will be scary...

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By K.C. Johnson, Tribune reporter


http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/chi-bulls-pull-bogans-from-practice-20111209,0,314801.story

4:43 p.m. CST, December 9, 2011
Minutes before the Chicago Bulls were to stage their first practice of training camp, Keith Bogans was pulled off the practice floor, according to a league source.

The Bulls hold a $1.73 million team option on Bogans, who started all 82 games at shooting guard last season. According to league sources, Bogans' contract officially is non-guaranteed and above the league minimum. With the Bulls exploring other shooting guard options, management is being careful and preventing Bogans from sustaining an injury.

Bogans' non-guaranteed contract would be a chip in a larger trade to upgrade the shooting guard position.

Nevertheless, Bogans, who has been working out at the Berto Center for the last week, wasn't happy with the move, according to a source.

The Bulls remain in contact with free agent guards such as Jason Richardson and Jamal Crawford and, according to a source, touched base with Vince Carter's camp on Friday, the day Carter officially got waived by the Phoenix Suns.

The Pistons bought out Richard Hamilton, although the Bulls have been cool on him in the past.

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682. "if im a Bulls fan i'd prefer J. Rich."
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not sure how solid Crawford's D is...

  

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685. "RE: if im a Bulls fan i'd prefer J. Rich."
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>not sure how solid Crawford's D is...


We got enough defense with Brewer, Noah, Deng, Asik, our back-up PF and even Boozer who has gotten better...Hell, Rose has vastly improved as well...

Defense was not our issue because we had depth...Our issue was offense...And J Rich is now a glorified 3 point shooter who can't create his own shot...

Crawford does all things we need...Create his own shot, shoots open jumpers, and creates for others when needed...

J Rich doesn't do any of those things beyond shoot....And his defense is not THAT MUCH better than Crawford...

Trust me, you get Crawford and hope you can sign RIP Hamilton (Detroit has already bought him out and he wants to come to the Bulls) on the cheap...

That's a recipe for a ring...

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684. "HERE'S that Wojo ether we've been waiting for. FIYA!!"
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http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-wojnarowski_nba_chris_paul_trade_david_stern_veto_120911

Here was New Orleans Hornets general manager Dell Demps out on the West Bank of New Orleans, out in a practice facility that Chris Paul has had to march past reptile and bird shows, and government cheese handouts on his way to the locker room. For thousands of hours, Demps had done the job he had prepared his entire professional life: video and statistical analysis, telephone calls, texts, emails and meetings until 3:30 a.m. with his basketball staff.

The job. Demps did the job. His professional career, his reputation, the future of the franchise, hung in the balance of the teams trade of Paul. Demps never had a chance to keep Paul, nor did his capable predecessor, Jeff Bower. The NBA had come to New Orleans because a Bible-thumping owner, George Shinn, had been sued by a Charlotte woman in a sexual assault case. All alone, Shinn destroyed an excellent NBA market in Charlotte and moved the Hornets to New Orleans to find a new city that would treat him like a savior. Katrina was on deck, and the NBA had to live with the consequences.

In so many ways, Demps was working to clean up one more of commissioner David Sterns messes on Thursday. Demps did his job, did it beautifully and out of nowhere, out of the hubris of Olympic Tower in Manhattan, Stern sent word that this three-team deal for one of the sports biggest stars had been obliterated after the Hornets, Lakers and Rockets agreed upon a package.

Now, Stern has apparently ceded to public backlash, as the three teams re-engaged in talks on amending Thursdays deal in a way Stern could accept, league sources told Yahoo! Sports on Friday. Now, the job of these three teams is to shake up the deal just enough for Stern to be able to save face and approve it. The basketball experts at the league office are mandating the Hornets gather younger players and draft picks for Paul. Somehow, they believe that solidifies New Orleans basketball future in a better way.

Ideally, it would, if Stern and his wing-tipped tag-a-longs in Olympic tower were qualified to make those judgments. The Hornets couldve flipped Lamar Odom and Luis Scola to contenders to secure those kinds of assets, but apparently Stern wants the illusion of a younger player or a pick that he has no idea will ever turn into anything.

On Thursday, there was a long, sordid chain of events that ended with a determined young GM, Demps, overcome with anger and disbelief, feeling like the walls had come down on him Thursday. In the end, Demps was told to wait for Stern to call, but there was no hope he could dissuade Stern and spare everyone this stunning, unprecedented misuse of power. The NBA hadnt taken over ownership of the Hornets to carry out Sterns petty grudges and power trips, but thats what it always comes back to with him.



The curtain has been pulled back on how this league operates, how Stern still sees himself as emperor, as a dictator of what he wants and how he wants it. Back on All-Star weekend in Los Angeles, Stern told those stars in an angry, true moment in the locker room that he knew where the bodies were buried because he had buried a lot of them. He threw that shovel over his shoulder again Thursday and walked away from one more dirt ditch.

After five months of a lockout, after failing to deliver a promise to his owners that he would reform NBA rules to make these superstar hostage crises disappear, another was underway in New Orleans on Sterns watch. Stern doesnt see superstars with the gravitas of Michael Jordan and Magic Johnson, and feels like so many of these owners that he privately despises: Who the hell are these players to dictate terms to him?

This had little to do with the merits of the Paul trade and how it would impact the value for the Hornets next owner and everything to do with timing. Some owners were angry with Stern pushing so hard for a Christmas Day return that he relented on several of the rules they wanted to spare themselves from the superstar takeovers. Business started again, and business was unchanged. Long before Dan Gilbert sent that email, his ownership peers were raging to Stern.

For some reason, the end of the labor battle hadnt marked the end of the fight for Stern and the owners against the star players. Thats what happened here. Stern deemed the trade unacceptable for basketball reasons, and thats laughable considering how little that league office knows about basketball, appreciates it, or was even willing to give it a chance to be credible this season with so many games jammed into so few days, with such little preseason.

When the word came to Demps, he sat in his office and let the emotion wash over him. Stern has reduced so many men to rubble as commissioner, forever famous for belittling employees with his temper tantrums. This time, it was different. Stern had to explain the unexplainable, and theres no discussion with the commissioner. Theres no reasoning. Everyones a subject in his kingdom.



Demps was feeling humiliated, embarrassed and a little betrayed, say his friends. He had done his job and had his staff reporting to NBA vice president Stu Jacksons office on the progress of the trade talks.

As a GM, all a franchise can do is make a plan, take a course of action and see how it all turns out. For the NBA to run the Hornets the way Stern promised they would be run If recommends it, then were going to be approving it, Stern had said then you let them trade Paul when they believe they have the best possible deal, when they can get the full value to a team hes committed to sign with long-term. Now, the Hornets are left with a defiant Paul, who, if he isnt traded to L.A., will probably seek free agency out of spite to Stern. This will cause him to be a rental to most places where he could be traded, and thats not how you get the best value for him.

Rockets executives told friends in the league, They set us back three years with this. The Rockets had gathered young players, assets to make a move for a star like Pau Gasol, and pair him with a pricy free agent like Nene in the middle. All that could be gone now, lost in the debris, and all the NBA had to do was tell Demps early on the league wouldnt approve such a deal. They owed him the grace to spare everyone the precious time, resources and professional anguish of this mess.

This wasnt about the best interests of the Hornets, the NBA, anyone at all. This wasnt the NBA that Stern promised those owners in a post-lockout league, and they let him have it Thursday. After all those long days and nights negotiating the end of that labor war, it turns out it isnt over and never will be in this NBA. This is the fight to David Sterns ignoble finish as commissioner of the NBA, the fight thatll never end well for the NBA. Thats how Sterns going down, and thats how hell be remembered.

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688. "Mmmhmm."
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Wojo just opened the can of Common Sense.

btw, FUCK George Shinn. In the GOAT ASS. Butt hurt ass turdburglar. Now Charlotte is saddled with a Jaundiced Jackanapes at the helm.

  

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689. "*Clue Voice* NEW CHRIS PAUL TRADE...TRADE....TRADE....!!"
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DO REMEMBER!!!

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/7338172/source-chris-paul-los-angeles-lakers-trade-resubmitted

The New Orleans Hornets' three-team trade with the Los Angeles Lakers and Houston Rockets that would land Chris Paul in L.A. has been resubmitted to the league office for approval, according to sources close to the talks.

The specific changes to the original trade scenario were not immediately available, but sources told ESPN.com that a reconfigured trade has been presented by the league-owned Hornets to NBA commissioner David Stern in hopes that he'll approve this construction after vetoing Thursday's trade in principle.

Chris Broussard is a senior NBA writer for ESPN The Magazine. Marc Stein is a senior writer for ESPN.com.

  

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