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"Poll question: is Tim Tebow the worst QB in the league?"


  

          

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_19228711

Kiszla: Broncos need new meaning for Tim Tebowing
By Mark Kiszla
The Denver Post

So maybe we need a new definition for Tebowing.

It's a prayer for mercy.

Please, in the name of heaven, bring us somebody who can actually play quarterback.

Tim Tebow got thrown to the Detroit Lions on a Sunday when the Broncos were busted, 45-10. Tebow played so ineptly as to reveal a truth that his most faithful fans do not want to acknowledge.

Tebow might be a spectacular physical specimen, but he is not an NFL quarterback.

"He's an athlete. He's no Peyton Manning or Tom Brady or no Michael Vick or none of that. He's got a long ways to go as far as being a quarterback," said Detroit cornerback Chris Houston, who returned a Tebow interception 100 yards for a touchdown.

Mercy me.

Detroit did more than make Tebow appear as if he might need a position change to stick in the NFL.

The Lions openly made fun of Tebow and his religion.

In a wild and crazy internet world where pop-culture fads are spawned at the speed of your 4G network, Detroit players sacked Tebow, stripped the football from Tebow and shoved his desire to mix Christianity with sports back in the face of Tebow.

Detroit linebacker Stephen Tulloch struck the Tebowing pose next to the fallen quarterback after tackling him for a loss during the opening half.

"I told a friend of mine that I might have a couple sacks this game and if I get him, I going to Tebow it," Tulloch told me in the Detroit locker room. "It was all fun. Nothing mocking. I want Tebow to know no disrespect to God or anybody, just having a little fun with it."

When former Broncos tight end Tony Scheffler caught a 1-yard pass for a touchdown, his elaborate end-zone celebration included a Mile High salute, but not until he bowed to give a little prayer that mimicked Tebow.

Ask Scheffler what he thinks of the humiliation now felt by old friends in Denver, however, and his heart goes out to a once-proud franchise in ruin. "It's just a shame that things have took that turn," Scheffler said.

The Tebowing craze went viral when he was caught praying by television cameras after leading a miraculous 15-point comeback against Miami in his first start of the season.

The quarterback's open display of Christianity quickly spawned a website, complete with photographs of everything from a bride Tebowing with her groom to a surfer catching a wave while kneeling in worship on his board. And because we live in America, you knew merchandise would also be available for sale on the site. A baby blue bib for your Tebowing toddler can be had for only $14.99.

"I might go out and buy a T-shirt," said Detroit linebacker Tulloch. He wasn't kidding.

Read Tebow's stats and weep. He completed 18-of-39 passes for 172 yards and committed turnovers that handed Detroit two touchdowns.

"We just wanted to make him be a quarterback," said Houston, who revealed the defensive game plan was based on the Lions' steadfast belief that Tebow was incapable of moving the Broncos to a score by completing six consecutive passes in any drive. "We had somebody take away his legs and made him use his arm."

Those five minutes of wonder against Miami now look like an aberration. Right here, right now, Tebow is the worst quarterback in the NFL.

And please remember this: Josh McDaniels drafted Tebow.

At this sorry rate of offensive efficiency, a 3-13 or even a 2-14 record wouldn't be out of the question for the Broncos. Offensive coordinator Mike McCoy might not use all 64 crayons in the box, but any way you color it, Denver can't win if Tebow fails to demonstrate passing skills that merit an opponent's respect.

Unless the Broncos can land Stanford's Andrew Luck or Southern Cal's Matt Barkley in the 2012 draft, Tebow is a quarterback who could get coach John Fox fired in Denver.

"I'm just going to get up early and go to work and try to get better tomorrow and consistently improve and be the best person and quarterback for this organization," said Tebow, whose optimism always is as bright as the next sunrise.

Hey, intangibles are awesome, but rarely prove to be as valuable to any quarterback as a discernable talent such as hitting a wide open receiver in the end zone.

Mr. Tebow, we hate to break this news:

You can't lead if you can't make plays.

Could Brady Quinn possibly be worse?

Poll result (30 votes)
he's worse. (10 votes)Vote
he's the worst starter, thats for damn sure. (8 votes)Vote
no, but only because he's not really a quarterback. (4 votes)Vote
no. (5 votes)Vote
It's not his fault! *slams down Yugioh plea card* I ACTIVATE THE PLEA OF PLAYCALLING!! (3 votes)Vote

  

  

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Rohn Grossbeck is probably worse among current starters
Nov 04th 2011
1
Rex John Carson and Moore have the chance to at least play mediocre
Nov 04th 2011
2
Moore is also clearly a career backup that can win a few games
Nov 04th 2011
6
all those guys are better
Nov 04th 2011
4
      No, and neither is Kevin Kolb
Nov 05th 2011
14
           lol I really can't tell if you're joking or not...
Nov 05th 2011
15
           And? There's no one in the entire league worse?
Nov 05th 2011
16
                he cant throw.
Nov 05th 2011
18
           Kolb is Aaron Rodgers compared to Tebow.
Nov 05th 2011
17
He probably is but Rivers is trying real hard to take that title from hi...
Nov 04th 2011
3
yes, by a sizeable margin
Nov 04th 2011
5
Honestly, Blaine Gabbert is worse
Nov 05th 2011
7
damn, u might be right... that nga sucks.... lololololol
Nov 05th 2011
10
white,tall, ...supposed big arm
Nov 05th 2011
19
He really is sorry. I was watching one of their games and he
Nov 15th 2011
36
A Tebow-Jones-Drew wildcat run-first offense would work better
Nov 16th 2011
42
MJD and Marcedes are my guys, man
Nov 16th 2011
43
thats what i've been saying
Nov 22nd 2011
123
JUST SAYIN: http://www.nfl.com/videos/jacksonville-jaguars/09000d5d8244e...
Nov 21st 2011
112
No, he's not
Nov 05th 2011
8
Jake Plummer, John Elway, Craig Morton, gary Kuback,Kyle Orton
Nov 05th 2011
9
I love how they are "turning over in their grave"...
Nov 05th 2011
11
      check out Inside The NBA after this lockout ends
Nov 05th 2011
13
I like the kid. I haven't watched any of the games
Nov 05th 2011
12
man, he's bad. REAL bad, lol
Nov 05th 2011
20
      All he's missing are cornrows,tats and Bad Newz Kennels
Nov 05th 2011
21
           uhhh what?
Nov 05th 2011
23
                I mean he HAS all the shitty qualities they say black QB's have
Nov 05th 2011
24
                     My bad dude, its hard to tell when people are bein smart asses
Nov 05th 2011
27
                          But let's imagine Tebow runs an interstate dog fighting ring
Nov 05th 2011
29
                               "He's running those fights as an attempt to demonstrate a parable"
Nov 16th 2011
48
I mean, he IS a rookie, and some respectable QBs had dogshit 1st yrs
Nov 05th 2011
22
2nd year
Nov 05th 2011
25
I've never seen a first round pick be this awful
Nov 05th 2011
26
yeah some qbs totally surprise you and suck
Nov 05th 2011
28
"Not so fast my friends!"(c)Lee Corso
Nov 06th 2011
30
Praise Him
Nov 06th 2011
31
2 completions? 8 attempts?! lolololololol...
Nov 15th 2011
32
lololololololololol
Nov 15th 2011
33
man the jets might kill him. CAN'T WAIT.
Nov 15th 2011
34
      ^
Nov 15th 2011
35
      just hope they let him live to week 14: Briggs, Urlacher, Roach, Pepp
Nov 16th 2011
46
OMG, his HEAD COACH thinks he sucks
Nov 15th 2011
37
lol, just the phrase "pass-free" is hilarious
Nov 16th 2011
38
I almost lightweight hope that the 'pass-free' option works
Nov 16th 2011
40
if your team can't calling PASSING PLAYS b/c of you, you're the worst QB
Nov 16th 2011
39
Tebow got the same number of wins this year as Vick.
Nov 16th 2011
41
Damn Vick
Nov 16th 2011
44
guess they're equal QBs
Nov 16th 2011
45
      Let me correct myself. Tebow's 3-1 and Vick's 3-6.
Nov 16th 2011
47
           'wins' is not a stat.
Nov 18th 2011
59
                *rolls eyes*
Nov 18th 2011
82
                     lolol. 10 completions.
Nov 18th 2011
101
                          I'm not aware of the following facts.
Nov 18th 2011
109
                          actually, i think W/L are the QB's most vital stat
Nov 18th 2011
110
                               They win, therefore Tebow is the reason?
Nov 28th 2011
129
Has anyone seen the 2 headed monster of Tarvis jackson & Charlie Whitehu...
Nov 16th 2011
49
I've seen Whitehurst in one game this year
Nov 16th 2011
50
Any Vikings fan can tell you
Nov 17th 2011
52
hmm....
Nov 17th 2011
51
lol, HE STILL IS.
Nov 17th 2011
54
do you know the definition of a win is?
Nov 17th 2011
56
      Hectic, just one question
Nov 18th 2011
71
           you and smuts must not have ever played sports
Nov 18th 2011
90
                This is awesome. You actually believe in him.
Nov 18th 2011
103
                LMFAO
Nov 18th 2011
104
                hahahahaha
Nov 18th 2011
105
                This is gonna end GREAT
Nov 18th 2011
108
                i'm posting like someone who watched the game
Nov 18th 2011
111
yea, Sanchez just leapfrogged him.
Nov 17th 2011
55
      Pretty much.
Nov 18th 2011
69
LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLB's Finest
Nov 17th 2011
53
11.17.11 - the madmaker strikes again
Nov 18th 2011
57
so you think he's going to be a good QB?
Nov 18th 2011
58
      personally
Nov 18th 2011
60
      Good for this offense and a GREAT leader? Yes. Absolutely.
Nov 18th 2011
61
           can't believe you guys are buying into this shit
Nov 18th 2011
62
           Tesus WILLED that pick six to happen.
Nov 18th 2011
63
           *rewatches final drive of game last night*
Nov 18th 2011
64
                oh, he had one good drive while playing a terrible game. I'm convinced.
Nov 18th 2011
65
                RE: oh, he had one good drive while playing a terrible win
Nov 18th 2011
66
                     And that's why, if you were GM,
Nov 18th 2011
67
                          Am I saying I'd be content going forward with him?
Nov 18th 2011
83
                spoiler alert: it won't
Nov 18th 2011
68
                     Teammates love Rex Grossman too.
Nov 18th 2011
70
                          The Divorce rate is higher than Tebow's completion %
Nov 18th 2011
72
                               y'all real sad
Nov 18th 2011
73
                                    No one's salty or mad besides smart Broncos fans
Nov 18th 2011
74
                                    upon entry in OKS this morning
Nov 18th 2011
76
                                         have you never heard this phrase before?
Nov 18th 2011
77
                                         no doubt...hood defintions 4 sho
Nov 18th 2011
80
                                              look at who you are replying to please.
Nov 18th 2011
84
                                                   I am replying to YOU talking about cantball
Nov 18th 2011
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                                                        but you're replying to my posts when talking to cantball.
Nov 18th 2011
91
                                                             looks at #74 on screen...sees c-a-n-t-b-a-l-l
Nov 18th 2011
94
                                                                  right, you responded to him
Nov 18th 2011
96
                                                                       the wheels on the bus......
Nov 18th 2011
99
                                         I think his whole schtick is hilarious
Nov 18th 2011
78
                                              again: i think responses to it are moreso
Nov 18th 2011
81
                                    it was a percentages joke, relax
Nov 18th 2011
75
           there are easy explanations for a lot of that
Nov 18th 2011
79
                Two things:
Nov 18th 2011
85
                     it's a novelty. novelties wear off.
Nov 18th 2011
87
                     I'm just not sold on his awfulness, which makes me like him.
Nov 18th 2011
89
                          But what are the parameters for his success or failure?
Nov 18th 2011
92
                     Well, then somebody better draft a Chris Leak for his ass
Nov 18th 2011
100
randumb fact/record from Mr. Worst-QB-in-the-League
Nov 18th 2011
88
what's the record for 3 and outs in a game?
Nov 18th 2011
93
      as of today it is 4-1 and 1/2 game out of 1st
Nov 18th 2011
95
           yeah, i got it. it was cute.
Nov 18th 2011
97
                *finger guns*
Nov 18th 2011
98
I really, really, really wish the Steelers played the Broncos this year.
Nov 18th 2011
102
be careful. GOD will spite thou beloved defense
Nov 18th 2011
106
Why couldn't the Packers have played the Jesus Horses?
Nov 18th 2011
107
the broncos are winning because he is a good runningback
Nov 21st 2011
113
Jake Plummer: Atheist
Nov 21st 2011
114
LOLLLLLL wowwwwwwwwww
Nov 21st 2011
115
HAHAHAHA WOOOW LMAO
Nov 22nd 2011
116
LMAO, he's not totally wrong about that last sentence though
Nov 22nd 2011
117
yeah, Denver was surprisingly good with him
Nov 22nd 2011
121
Of all people, Tebow is certainly not gonna listen to a talking Snake
Nov 22nd 2011
119
^^i love this place
Nov 22nd 2011
120
lol
Nov 28th 2011
142
remember. Jake was the one that drove a stake through the heart
Nov 22nd 2011
124
URLACHER BELIEVES. (swipe)
Nov 22nd 2011
118
the Bears may actually need that with their offensive personnel
Nov 22nd 2011
122
"SUSTAIN" THESE NUTS YOU FUCKIN HATERS!! *BOWSER LAUGH*
Nov 27th 2011
125
*sways all holy ghost like*
Nov 27th 2011
126
I.LOVE.THIS.
Nov 27th 2011
127
lol. combined record of tebow wins: 24-31
Nov 28th 2011
130
      ^^^ cloaked in the Fabric
Nov 28th 2011
131
      combined record of Tebow whats?
Nov 28th 2011
132
      lol hell yeah.
Nov 28th 2011
140
      you are absolutely pathetic
Nov 28th 2011
133
      last year, when Vick and Shady were beasting
Nov 28th 2011
135
           i do give him credit for that. talked with pops about it last night
Nov 28th 2011
137
                those are fair points, however
Nov 28th 2011
138
                     it was tebow giving an opening to a capable nfl back
Nov 28th 2011
139
MCGAHEE TO ELWAY: "IT AIN'T BROKE, DON'T FIX IT."
Nov 27th 2011
128
you follow Peter King on twitter?
Nov 28th 2011
141
without NBA agenda this is by far the best thing going!!!
Nov 28th 2011
134
Jesus Saves Souls.Tebow Spends
Nov 28th 2011
136
WHAT SAY YOU NOW?
Dec 11th 2011
143

Marauder21
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1. "Rohn Grossbeck is probably worse among current starters"
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Matt Moore also isn't good. McNabb's in the running based on what he did while starting, and Carson Palmer certainly didn't look any better when he got into his one game, but we'll see how that goes as he gets more familiar with the offense.

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2. "Rex John Carson and Moore have the chance to at least play mediocre"
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Tesus just fucking sucks.
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6. "Moore is also clearly a career backup that can win a few games"
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nobody is ever gonna feel pressured to start matt moore

  

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4. "all those guys are better"
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14. "No, and neither is Kevin Kolb"
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15. "lol I really can't tell if you're joking or not..."
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if not my question to you is...have you actually seen him play?

you did see what that one lions player said right?

"Can you believe 15? one Detroit Lions defender told Silver. Come on thats embarrassing. I mean, its a joke. We knew all week that if we brought any kind of defensive pressure, he couldnt do anything. In the second half it got boring out there. We were like, Come on thats your quarterback? Seriously?

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16. "And? There's no one in the entire league worse?"
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The McCown brother that got benched for Blaine Gabbert?

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18. "he cant throw."
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like, at all.

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17. "Kolb is Aaron Rodgers compared to Tebow."
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Tebow is not a professional QB.

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3. "He probably is but Rivers is trying real hard to take that title from hi..."
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as soon as Rivers fumbled that snap, I said that he Tebow'd it.

  

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5. "yes, by a sizeable margin"
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7. "Honestly, Blaine Gabbert is worse"
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Like, Tebow really sucks at throwing, and avoiding sacks, but at least he brings the ability to break off a long run once in a while. Plus, marketability.

Gabbert is TERRIBLE. Throws like Tebow, never steps in, no big play running ability, no leadership or charisma. His stats are even worse than Tebow's! I predict the Jags are looking for a new QB by 2013.

  

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10. "damn, u might be right... that nga sucks.... lololololol"
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19. "white,tall, ...supposed big arm"
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36. "He really is sorry. I was watching one of their games and he"
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was seriously shitty the whole game. They need to run the ball and draft over that fool.


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42. "A Tebow-Jones-Drew wildcat run-first offense would work better"
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than the bullshit we have going on right now. I know it may take Gabbert a few years... but goddammit, we are wasting Jones-Drew's prime and it's embarrassing.

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43. "MJD and Marcedes are my guys, man"
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You guys are wasting both my guys careers here. Though Marcedes has been sorta terrible this year. It really doesn't matter with that QB you have though. That defense is good too!

  

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123. "thats what i've been saying"
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112. "JUST SAYIN: http://www.nfl.com/videos/jacksonville-jaguars/09000d5d8244e..."
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http://www.nfl.com/videos/jacksonville-jaguars/09000d5d8244e82a/Browns-defense-sack-15-yd-loss

  

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8. "No, he's not"
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>http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_19228711
>
>Kiszla: Broncos need new meaning for Tim Tebowing
>By Mark Kiszla
>The Denver Post
>
>So maybe we need a new definition for Tebowing.
>
>It's a prayer for mercy.
>
>Please, in the name of heaven, bring us somebody who can
>actually play quarterback.
>
>Tim Tebow got thrown to the Detroit Lions on a Sunday when the
>Broncos were busted, 45-10. Tebow played so ineptly as to
>reveal a truth that his most faithful fans do not want to
>acknowledge.
>
>Tebow might be a spectacular physical specimen, but he is not
>an NFL quarterback.
>
>"He's an athlete. He's no Peyton Manning or Tom Brady or no
>Michael Vick or none of that. He's got a long ways to go as
>far as being a quarterback," said Detroit cornerback Chris
>Houston, who returned a Tebow interception 100 yards for a
>touchdown.
>
>Mercy me.
>
>Detroit did more than make Tebow appear as if he might need a
>position change to stick in the NFL.
>
>The Lions openly made fun of Tebow and his religion.
>
>In a wild and crazy internet world where pop-culture fads are
>spawned at the speed of your 4G network, Detroit players
>sacked Tebow, stripped the football from Tebow and shoved his
>desire to mix Christianity with sports back in the face of
>Tebow.
>
>Detroit linebacker Stephen Tulloch struck the Tebowing pose
>next to the fallen quarterback after tackling him for a loss
>during the opening half.
>
>"I told a friend of mine that I might have a couple sacks this
>game and if I get him, I going to Tebow it," Tulloch told me
>in the Detroit locker room. "It was all fun. Nothing mocking.
>I want Tebow to know no disrespect to God or anybody, just
>having a little fun with it."
>
>When former Broncos tight end Tony Scheffler caught a 1-yard
>pass for a touchdown, his elaborate end-zone celebration
>included a Mile High salute, but not until he bowed to give a
>little prayer that mimicked Tebow.
>
>Ask Scheffler what he thinks of the humiliation now felt by
>old friends in Denver, however, and his heart goes out to a
>once-proud franchise in ruin. "It's just a shame that things
>have took that turn," Scheffler said.
>
>The Tebowing craze went viral when he was caught praying by
>television cameras after leading a miraculous 15-point
>comeback against Miami in his first start of the season.
>
>The quarterback's open display of Christianity quickly spawned
>a website, complete with photographs of everything from a
>bride Tebowing with her groom to a surfer catching a wave
>while kneeling in worship on his board. And because we live in
>America, you knew merchandise would also be available for sale
>on the site. A baby blue bib for your Tebowing toddler can be
>had for only $14.99.
>
>"I might go out and buy a T-shirt," said Detroit linebacker
>Tulloch. He wasn't kidding.
>
>Read Tebow's stats and weep. He completed 18-of-39 passes for
>172 yards and committed turnovers that handed Detroit two
>touchdowns.
>
>"We just wanted to make him be a quarterback," said Houston,
>who revealed the defensive game plan was based on the Lions'
>steadfast belief that Tebow was incapable of moving the
>Broncos to a score by completing six consecutive passes in any
>drive. "We had somebody take away his legs and made him use
>his arm."
>
>Those five minutes of wonder against Miami now look like an
>aberration. Right here, right now, Tebow is the worst
>quarterback in the NFL.
>
>And please remember this: Josh McDaniels drafted Tebow.
>
>At this sorry rate of offensive efficiency, a 3-13 or even a
>2-14 record wouldn't be out of the question for the Broncos.
>Offensive coordinator Mike McCoy might not use all 64 crayons
>in the box, but any way you color it, Denver can't win if
>Tebow fails to demonstrate passing skills that merit an
>opponent's respect.
>
>Unless the Broncos can land Stanford's Andrew Luck or Southern
>Cal's Matt Barkley in the 2012 draft, Tebow is a quarterback
>who could get coach John Fox fired in Denver.
>
>"I'm just going to get up early and go to work and try to get
>better tomorrow and consistently improve and be the best
>person and quarterback for this organization," said Tebow,
>whose optimism always is as bright as the next sunrise.
>
>Hey, intangibles are awesome, but rarely prove to be as
>valuable to any quarterback as a discernable talent such as
>hitting a wide open receiver in the end zone.
>
>Mr. Tebow, we hate to break this news:
>
>You can't lead if you can't make plays.
>
>Could Brady Quinn possibly be worse?

I say this of course realizing that every other QB can take snaps from center without problems. Every other QB has coaches that tailor the offense to suit their strengths.

Cantball you must hate christianity because you don't worship at the altar of Tesus. You don't see all grit and passion he shows.

*Tebows*

You don't witness the childlike (shout out to gunslinger) enthusiasm that Tesus plays the game with.

It's not Tebows fault receivers cannot catch balls underthrown and overthrown by 5 plus yards.

It's not about how bad the Broncos are as it is about how much they can Suck for Luck. Broncos fans wanted Tebow and they got him.

To answer your question I'd say BQ is not worse than Tebow. Tebow will take 7 seasons to look like a quality NFL starter like Alex Smith.

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9. "Jake Plummer, John Elway, Craig Morton, gary Kuback,Kyle Orton"
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all turning over in there grave. heard they all had a recent camp fire and talking about when they were leading the Broncos under center.

Tebow better be careful or they might do like Carrie did in that Movie and reach for his legs from the Grave.

Yeah Tebow is Horror in a Half.

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11. "I love how they are "turning over in their grave"..."
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but those fuckers are all still alive.

  

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13. "check out Inside The NBA after this lockout ends"
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www.somethinginthewudder.com

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12. "I like the kid. I haven't watched any of the games"
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I hope the best for him.

lol.

I honestly don't think he's an NFL caliber QB in that he's not fast enough to do what he's going to have to do to get 1st downs week to week, EVERY week.

I dunno.

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20. "man, he's bad. REAL bad, lol"
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like every fucked up stereotype about black qbs in college, made flesh, and white, lol

  

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21. "All he's missing are cornrows,tats and Bad Newz Kennels"
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23. "uhhh what?"
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I meant in the sense of all the stereotypes thrown about how black qbs in college won't transition to the next level.

Can't read defenses?
Fucked throwing motion?
Iffy arm strength?
Runs around in the backfield with no sense of timing?

It's actually pretty amazing to see.

But yeah, keep on doin you though

  

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24. "I mean he HAS all the shitty qualities they say black QB's have"
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If he had the other things,he'd be the perfect supposed black QB.


The guy has happy feet and is slow.He's like is everything bad people expected from Steve McNair came true.
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27. "My bad dude, its hard to tell when people are bein smart asses"
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my fault.

  

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29. "But let's imagine Tebow runs an interstate dog fighting ring"
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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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48. ""He's running those fights as an attempt to demonstrate a parable""
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about the struggle we ALL have to bring God into the world.

That's EXACTLY how it would get passed off.

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22. "I mean, he IS a rookie, and some respectable QBs had dogshit 1st yrs"
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halfway pulling for him since heard almost just as many people shit on Killa Cam almost as hard before Cam even took a fucking snap.

With that said though, even given that he's a rookie... I'm trying to understand is he THAT shitty even given the worst busts to play lol.

  

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25. "2nd year"
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26. "I've never seen a first round pick be this awful"
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He doesn't do ANYTHING well that involves a football
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28. "yeah some qbs totally surprise you and suck"
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we know he'll turn out okay because everyone saw what a great nfl qb he would be when he was in college

  

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30. ""Not so fast my friends!"(c)Lee Corso"
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________________________________________
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32. "2 completions? 8 attempts?! lolololololol..."
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that basically means John Fox is terrified every time Tebow drops back to throw.

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33. "lololololololololol"
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
<---- 5....
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Occupy Big Government..

Fannie, Freddie dole out big bonuses
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34. "man the jets might kill him. CAN'T WAIT."
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46. "just hope they let him live to week 14: Briggs, Urlacher, Roach, Pepp"
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37. "OMG, his HEAD COACH thinks he sucks"
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http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/John-Fox-Tim-Tebow-would-be-8216-screwed-821?urn=nfl-wp11923

Fox talked to Jeff Darlington of NFL.com about a lot of things, including Tebow running his new pass-free option offense.

"Do whatever the hell it takes," he laughed. "I mean, what the hell? You don't get points for style in this league. Let me tell you something: My man is really good in this offense. You know what I mean?

"If we were trying to run a regular offense, he'd be screwed."

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38. "lol, just the phrase "pass-free" is hilarious"
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i can just imagine the broncos execs saying "let's see if we can get away with THIS forever!"

i mean, they don't really have another choice.

  

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40. "I almost lightweight hope that the 'pass-free' option works"
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just so that someone else tries to imitate the shit

  

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39. "if your team can't calling PASSING PLAYS b/c of you, you're the worst QB"
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in the league.

It's kind of a rule.

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41. "Tebow got the same number of wins this year as Vick. "
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44. "Damn Vick "
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who was Black Jesus can't even get over the White Jesus

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45. "guess they're equal QBs"
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47. "Let me correct myself. Tebow's 3-1 and Vick's 3-6."
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Tebow's TD:INT ratio is better than Vick's.

Tebow's QB rating is better than Vick's too.

The point being not that Tebow is better than Vick, btw. The point being that out-of-context stat citations to prove Tebow sucks works the other way around, and that if I could choose between a QB who throws 40 times a game for 300 yards but loses or a QB who throws 10 times a game for under 100 yards and wins, I wouldn't decry the winning quarterback as the worst in the league.

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59. "'wins' is not a stat."
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Especially not when you're a QB and you complete approximately 1 pass per game.

I believe the term coattails would apply.

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82. "*rolls eyes*"
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He's completed on average over 10 passes per game. But you're exaggerating because he's not accurate and you don't like him. I get it.

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101. "lolol. 10 completions."
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I shouldn't have even exaggerated. The real stat is so much funnier.

Denver is not going to keep winning with him.

Tebow is a shitty QB. He's not a major reason they're winning. He'll be out of a starting job within 12 months.

You're aware of all this, you're just enjoying making a simplistic argument based on his W/L record as if this is fucking tennis or golf.

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109. "I'm not aware of the following facts."
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>Denver is not going to keep winning with him.

>Tebow is a shitty QB.

>He's not a major reason they're winning.

>He'll be out of a starting job within 12 months.

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110. "actually, i think W/L are the QB's most vital stat"
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you're right, it's not tennis or golf. Wins matter.

  

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129. "They win, therefore Tebow is the reason?"
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see the flaw with your "stat"?

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Jackson has admittedly shown up on a couple of plays this year but Whitehurst is flat out horrocious. Heaven forfend we can't get someone else under center next year.



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and it was the most painful game of the NFL I think I've watched all season -- CLE/SEA aka The Kira Bowl

  

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When T Jack is your best option, you're not going far.

Now take away Adrian Peterson and an elite defense? Yikes.

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54. "lol, HE STILL IS."
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lmao, people trying to make this into a win for him.

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56. "do you know the definition of a win is?"
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lmao...

it's pretty cut and dry Shelly. you win or you lose football games. HE IS WINNING.

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71. "Hectic, just one question"
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and an honest one too: Were you frustrated with the team/Tebow in the middle part of the game, or were you not concerened? Specifically the 2nd, 3rd, and early 4th quarter.

  

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90. "you and smuts must not have ever played sports "
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To answer your dumbass question, of course I was concerned. but I never for one second thought we were going to lose the game. I was way more upset with the play calling, and obviously felt Tebow was playing horribly. It is inexcusable for Tebow to have 2 rushes in the first 3 quarters.
Keep writing your fantasy novel posts preaching the rapture of Tebow like a bum on some college campus, It is hilarious to me.
And for Smuts to completely discredit his victories with mediocre stats just solidifies that dude as a lifetime member of the band who never played a game you win or lose. You're sounding a lot like it too.

He is winning games, take your 'sustainability' to a lecture hall because I do not give a single fuck what you haters have to say. You can't say anything except hate on him for his religion and winning.
He has started 8 career games and is 5-3. EIGHT GAMES And you guys are callig for his head based purely on your hate and statistics you think matters.
Being .500 and in the division playoff race is the only thing that counts. Lol at you writing longass posts in every thread trying to convince yourself and the other religious-obsessed posse that Tebow will fail. Keep praying y'all. Tebow will too. GOOD.

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103. "This is awesome. You actually believe in him."
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I thought this was a big joke.

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104. "LMFAO"
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105. "hahahahaha"
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108. "This is gonna end GREAT"
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111. "i'm posting like someone who watched the game"
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you're posting like the other guy. all of us saw the constant 3 and outs and were either laughing at or frustrated with him. the difference is tebow defenders want to act like he was only in for one drive. he had a TERRIBLE game in which HE couldn't get anything done on offense, relied on a pick 6 for his team to stay in it, and then had a great last drive. THAT was the game that I watched.

and if you think he can keep winning, all power to ya. you're full of shit saying you thought they'd win the entire game though.

also, i never brought up religion... you did. my criticism of him/your organization has absolutely NOTHING to do with religion. thanks for playing.

  

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55. "yea, Sanchez just leapfrogged him."
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69. "Pretty much."
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53. "LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLB's Finest"
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57. "11.17.11 - the madmaker strikes again"
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58. "so you think he's going to be a good QB?"
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you think he's not a terrible QB right now?

Thought so.

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60. "personally"
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i believe he is an ATHLETE playing the quarterback position

not so much is he the prototypical johhny unitas type

but he winnin'

you (and others) mad about it?

>Thought so.

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61. "Good for this offense and a GREAT leader? Yes. Absolutely."
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Good traditional QB? No. But no one said he was ever going to be traditional.

There's a reason why Orton, with the SAME exact people, was 1-4 and Tebow is 4-1. The players clearly love this guy and everyone plays better with him under center. It's really simple.

He's not going to win the Super Bowl (OR IS HE?!?!). But dude makes the plays he needs to make and wins the games.

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62. "can't believe you guys are buying into this shit"
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it's all a mirage, Tebow isn't the reason they're winning (fuck intangibles), and he'll lose his job for an actually effective QB sooner rather than later.

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63. "Tesus WILLED that pick six to happen."
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64. "*rewatches final drive of game last night*"
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Look, it's WILDLY unorthodox and it remains to be seen how it works over the course of years.

But as a Jaguars fan whose primary problem is how much the offense passes and the lack of mobility of the QB, I see what a Tebow/MJD run-oriented offense could have been when paired with our defense (especially as Tebow grows and works on accuracy more), and I am sad.

He's more than just a "game manager." He rarely turns the ball over, he gets touchdowns, his teammates love him, and, perhaps most importantly, he loves playing in crunch time. Those are simply facts that I as a former Tebow doubter cannot deny any longer. I'm not saying he'll win a Super Bowl any time soon... but when you see what dude brings to the table combined with his age, I simply don't understand why people can't buy into his potential.

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65. "oh, he had one good drive while playing a terrible game. I'm convinced."
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66. "RE: oh, he had one good drive while playing a terrible win"
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I give entirely zero fucks how my team wins if my team wins consistently. And thus far in Tebow's career, he has consistently won.

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67. "And that's why, if you were GM,"
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you'd wake up 12 months from now and wonder why your team is still terrible.

If you were a GM content with Tebow as your QB, you'd be out of a job in two years flat.

Kind of like Josh McDaniels.

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83. "Am I saying I'd be content going forward with him?"
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No, I'm not.

Am I saying is he a unique talent that is absolutely worth developing at QB for a number of obvious reasons?

Yes, because of course he is.

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68. "spoiler alert: it won't"
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>Look, it's WILDLY unorthodox and it remains to be seen how it
>works over the course of years.


he has to be able to pass or they have to plug him in at Fullback.

>
>But as a Jaguars fan whose primary problem is how much the
>offense passes and the lack of mobility of the QB, I see what
>a Tebow/MJD run-oriented offense could have been when paired
>with our defense (especially as Tebow grows and works on
>accuracy more), and I am sad.
>
>He's more than just a "game manager." He rarely turns the ball
>over,

yeah, cause he doesn't pass. and what good is not turning the ball over when you have 8 straight punts, all but one being a 3 and out.

>he gets touchdowns,

lol, c'mon.

>his teammates love him,

true, but that won't last if they're not winning. if i remember correctly they weren't happy with him in training camp.

and, perhaps
>most importantly, he loves playing in crunch time.

i think this is all too reliant on the other team barely scoring in the first 3 quarters as well... how is that something to be relied upon? especially with that defense.

I simply don't understand why people can't buy into
>his potential.

because we've seen pretty much everything he has. unless he develops his passing game, defenses will catch on QUICK and then he's done. you simply can not have as little passing as they do and expect to win long term. it's not gonna happen.

  

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70. "Teammates love Rex Grossman too."
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Just sayin'.

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72. "The Divorce rate is higher than Tebow's completion %"
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yeah, the honeymoon will end.

  

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73. "y'all real sad"
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hoping and wishing for dude to fail (divorce rates? seriously. it's THAT deep?). for what?

again: personally don't care all *that* much beyond amused at how salty folks are

teeth-grindingly so

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74. "No one's salty or mad besides smart Broncos fans"
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This is hilarious
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76. "upon entry in OKS this morning"
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there were SIX anti-tebow posts on the 1st page

for a Denver Broncos player during a supposed to be down year for the team

yeah. ok.

likewise, all the pundits, writers, and randumb ranters are just a mirage

y'all (YOU) in here in the middle of a post declaring him the worst QB in the NFL in a thread talking about how the honeymoons gonna end (in the middle of one. like I said they were supposed to be fourth in the division and now with 3 reg season games they are 1/2 a game out of first)...

how about a quote from you about him: "He doesn't do ANYTHING well that involves a football" (http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=1841685&mesg_id=1841685&listing_type=search#1842192)

that ain't hate either?

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77. "have you never heard this phrase before?"
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>y'all (YOU) in here talking about how the honeymoons gonna end

your definition of hate is very wide.

also that was me, not him.

  

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80. "no doubt...hood defintions 4 sho"
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this is OKS not the debate team

did you also say the following (fun with the search function and two minutes):

1. (re: the Jest's game) "Denver's Gameplan: Don't lose by 30+"
http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=1841685&mesg_id=1841685&listing_type=search#1842192

2. "I've never seen a first round pick be this awful...He doesn't do ANYTHING well that involves a football" (see edit to prev post for link)

3. "JOIN THE TEBOW STEAM TRAIN HERE!!!...Obviously its a steam train from the 1930's,since that's where a Tebow-led offensive gameplan comes from."

4. (re tebow and sanchez: "These QB's should be aborted"

5. "Poll question: Spinoff Poll:How bad will the Jets beat the Broncos? a. They're not winning b.They're gonna get buttfucked c.Tebow is gonna look like the hilarious Watchmen-esque joke he is" <-- read the opening thread on this one too

5. "Well I'm shocked that he's terrible....Maybe he can make some more Promises and hope his defense can carry them"

6. "Tebow will not sustain this success though.Everyone knows this....He's awful,and it will be shown soon enough."

  

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84. "look at who you are replying to please."
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86. "I am replying to YOU talking about cantball"
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stop defending something/one indefensible please

  

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91. "but you're replying to my posts when talking to cantball."
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so to answer your question: no, i said none of those things.

  

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94. "looks at #74 on screen...sees c-a-n-t-b-a-l-l"
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derp.derp.derp

  

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96. "right, you responded to him "
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as if he made the honeymoon comment. i corrected you. then you asked cantball a question in a reply to me. how is that not confusing?

  

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99. "the wheels on the bus......"
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(edited to get rid of smilies in numbers)

the thread recap....

me: 57
smutsboy: 58
f. Longo: 61
smutsboy: 62
f. Longo: 64
YOU:68
smutsboy: 7 0

YOU: 7 2

me (within my a subthread I started to OKS in general, yet in context because no other subthreads were open as of):70

CANTBALL: 7 4

me (to cantball): 7 6, referencing what was said by you in 72. edited immediately after "submit" to specifically point out what you are/were confused about

YOU: 7 7

me (to YOU):80 (asking do you say those things also since apparently the confusion had kicked in)

it's unfortunate you are confused (that was not the intent), but I did know who I was talking to about what I was talking to them about




  

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78. "I think his whole schtick is hilarious"
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81. "again: i think responses to it are moreso"
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75. "it was a percentages joke, relax"
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if you've caught my views in a couple posts: i like Tebow (especially last night, because the Jets are in my division), I just don't think he will win long-term, and every curent flaw in his game is a sign of that. And any criticism I have of Tebow is actually just a criticism of the Broncos organization or his overzealous fanbase. It mostly ties into my argument with people about whether they should have drafted him so high or given up so much to get him. So it really has nothing to do with Tebow. He's a good dude with a good sense of humor, he gets the okay in my book.

  

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79. "there are easy explanations for a lot of that"
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first, he's a bizarre new thing to the league. defenses aren't prepared for tebow. give coordinators an offseason and holler back (see: wildcat. also, hi O_E!)

second, look at the teams that each qb faced:
Orton: SD (split), Oak, Bengals, Titans, Packers
Tebow: SD (split), Miami, Det, Oak, Kc, jets

That first group of teams is a lot better than that second group. The total offense for the broncos was about the same in both. The defense--with a new coach--however, was much better (see: 190 rush yards for oak against orton, 100 against tebow).

is tebow better than orton? yeah. is he good? lol. no.

also--good luck ever getting a decent WR to sign with Denver with Tebow as QB. no agent would let that happen.
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85. "Two things: "
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>first, he's a bizarre new thing to the league. defenses
>aren't prepared for tebow. give coordinators an offseason and
>holler back (see: wildcat. also, hi O_E!)

This isn't the same as the wildcat, and Tebow is easily the best person to try to use in wildcat options out of anyone who's tried it before. I'm not saying it's a long term fix or that it will beat the elite teams in the league... but it clearly has a legitimate value going forward, as does Tebow in some capacity under center.

>is tebow better than orton? yeah. is he good? lol. no.

Why is he better than Orton? Orton's completion percentage is better and he throws for more yards per game. People act like Tebow is the worst QB in the league-- I'm just saying this gadget QB is certainly not the worst in the league, even if his accuracy clearly leaves something to be desired.

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87. "it's a novelty. novelties wear off."
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>This isn't the same as the wildcat, and Tebow is easily the
>best person to try to use in wildcat options out of anyone
>who's tried it before. I'm not saying it's a long term fix or
>that it will beat the elite teams in the league... but it
>clearly has a legitimate value going forward, as does Tebow in
>some capacity under center.

the wildcat worked because defensive coordinators didn't know how to react to it. once they did, it doesn't work much at all. I'd suspect the same thing will happen to Tebow and, to a possibly lesser extent, Newton. For example, the jets defense went into a pretty traditional end-of-game defense (extra DB, but still occasionally bringing big blitzes). That's smart against a QB who can actually pass it, but that's NOT TEBOW. it fed into what tebow's good at. Now, give a d-coordinator (especially an AFC west one) a summer to plan for what to do against someone like Tebow and i don't think you'll see similar mistakes next year.

>Why is he better than Orton? Orton's completion percentage is
>better and he throws for more yards per game.

orton was awful. cmon. i could see it. he's not good.

People act like
>Tebow is the worst QB in the league-- I'm just saying this
>gadget QB is certainly not the worst in the league, even if
>his accuracy clearly leaves something to be desired.

that's my point: he is a gadget QB and will never be anything else because he's just that bad at throwing the ball. and after one season of success, most "gadgets" in the NFL end up not working any more. so enjoy the tebow ride for a couple more weeks because I'm pretty damn confident it won't last long.

he's awful.

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89. "I'm just not sold on his awfulness, which makes me like him."
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He's like the ultimate Cinderella. And if he increases his completion percentage to 50 by next season (big if, I grant you), that expands on what he can do and gives him a big chance to continue to succeed.

I like betting on winners and hard workers. I know that doesn't replace raw talent... but I can't bet against him. For every awful pass (and there are a number per game), there's an awesome read, a perfect pass, a great moment with the game on the line.

I just like the odds I'm given. And if he fails long-term, you're right-- the gadget couldn't sustain, and I'll be willing to admit it.

But I can't bet against this dude.

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92. "But what are the parameters for his success or failure?"
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100. "Well, then somebody better draft a Chris Leak for his ass"
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because that's the only way he's winning a title in the NFL.

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88. "randumb fact/record from Mr. Worst-QB-in-the-League"
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That touchdown run (the game winner vs. the Jets on 11.17.11) set a new - very specific - NFL record. According to Elias, Tebow's touchdown run was the longest game-winning touchdown run by a quarterback in the final minute of the fourth quarter in NFL history.

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93. "what's the record for 3 and outs in a game?"
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95. "as of today it is 4-1 and 1/2 game out of 1st"
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(as in w/l)

  

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97. "yeah, i got it. it was cute."
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>(as in w/l)
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98. "*finger guns*"
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102. "I really, really, really wish the Steelers played the Broncos this year."
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113. "the broncos are winning because he is a good runningback "
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And their defense is playing lights out

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114. "Jake Plummer: Atheist"
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"Tebow, regardless of whether I wish he'd just shut up after a game and go hug his teammates, I think he's a winner and I respect that about him," Jake Plummer told XTRA Sports 910 in Phoenix on Monday.

"I think that when he accepts the fact that we know that he loves Jesus Christ, then I think I'll like him a little better. I don't hate him because of that, I just would rather not have to hear that every single time he takes a good snap or makes a good handoff."

"(Tebow) is a winner, though. I like that because I think the town and the fans and everybody there -- they are craving a winner. They lost one when I was run out of town."

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115. "LOLLLLLL wowwwwwwwwww"
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>"Tebow, regardless of whether I wish he'd just shut up after
>a game and go hug his teammates, I think he's a winner and I
>respect that about him," Jake Plummer told XTRA Sports 910 in
>Phoenix on Monday.
>
>"I think that when he accepts the fact that we know that he
>loves Jesus Christ, then I think I'll like him a little
>better. I don't hate him because of that, I just would rather
>not have to hear that every single time he takes a good snap
>or makes a good handoff."
>
>"(Tebow) is a winner, though. I like that because I think the
>town and the fans and everybody there -- they are craving a
>winner. They lost one when I was run out of town."
>
>^ WOW at that last sentence!
>

i respect his wishes to not have to hear Tebow do the Jesus praising. But Plummdogg COME ON MAN. you are the same dude who was accused by FOUR GIRLS at ASU that you borderline fucking molested them, so whenever this sleezeball opens his mouth about someone or about how the Broncos treated him I always love to point that out.

im still laughing at that last sentence. BOLD. i bet Mike & Mike on 910 were just begging for him to talk shit about Denver considering they took him from the Cards. YOU RAN AWAY FROM ARIZONA.

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116. "HAHAHAHA WOOOW LMAO "
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117. "LMAO, he's not totally wrong about that last sentence though"
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He took them to the AFC chip game

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121. "yeah, Denver was surprisingly good with him"
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does anyone remember how he left? i was wondering because his last year there he wasn't doing great but they were 7-4. on paper it seems strange to turn to the young guy at that point, but i don't know the details at all.

  

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119. "Of all people, Tebow is certainly not gonna listen to a talking Snake"
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(c) Deadspin

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142. "lol"
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124. "remember. Jake was the one that drove a stake through the heart"
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of Team Favre (2001-2005). still the most hilarious playoff game ever.

(#2 is Marshawn Lynch going full GOON on the Aints last season)

  

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118. "URLACHER BELIEVES. (swipe)"
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PRAISE THE TEBOW OFFENSE!

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d824562c2/article/bears-urlacher-selling-tebow-time-but-lovie-isnt-buying?module=HP11_hot_topics

The Bears' season -- so promising one day ago -- now is filled with questions after Jay Cutler suffered a broken thumb Sunday.

In rides Caleb Hanie on his little white horse. Forget the zero NFL starts. Hanie, known in-house for his escapability, already has linebacker Brian Urlacher brainstorming new pathways for Chicago's offense.

"He's going to be able to move around in the pocket a little bit -- maybe a little (Tim) Tebow offense," Urlacher told the Chicago Tribune on Monday.

Don't bank on it. Bears coach Lovie Smith wasted no time Monday pumping the brakes on ripping pages out of the Broncos' radioactive read-option playbook.

"It's not like we're going to start running a different offense with Caleb," Smith said. "We're going to run our offense with Caleb at the helm, and we're going to win football games that way. We're going to rely on our running game a little bit more."

So, Cutler's demise won't lead to the rise of Tebow Two, but it could mean even more Matt Forte, only increasing the man's argument for a wild pay increase -- either in Chicago or somewhere else, when the time comes.

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122. "the Bears may actually need that with their offensive personnel"
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or maybe just turn to Forte like 80% of the time.

  

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125. ""SUSTAIN" THESE NUTS YOU FUCKIN HATERS!! *BOWSER LAUGH*"
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126. "*sways all holy ghost like*"
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127. "I.LOVE.THIS."
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Most of the SEC guys here tried to tell yall. He wins. End of story. None of us know how he does it, but he killed all of our teams for four straight years by pulling stuff out of his butt in college. He wins games. That's all there is to it.

  

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130. "lol. combined record of tebow wins: 24-31"
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with three of those wins coming against the worst division in football.

but, yeah, tebow totally inspired von miller and willis macgahee to dominate overtime. without his winnerness, the broncos would have lost by 50.

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131. "^^^ cloaked in the Fabric"
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Ditch the Fabric and don THE SHROUD.

>but, yeah, tebow totally inspired von miller and willis
>macgahee to dominate overtime. without his winnerness, the
>broncos would have lost by 50.

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132. "combined record of Tebow whats?"
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133. "you are absolutely pathetic"
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I get it. Phillies choked, Eagles in last place (lmao!!), Tebow making you mad and lookin like a FOOL.... It'd behoove you to just KIM. I legitly feel bad for you and your OKP reputation!

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135. "last year, when Vick and Shady were beasting"
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Eagles fans were discussing how Shady was having a career year because teams were so focused on Vick's running ability and containing play action bootlegs that when he actually handed the ball off, Shady had a head start and wide open cutback lanes to run through.

Now, Willis McGahee - after being virtually useless the past 4 seasons, and mostly considered to be washed up - is beasting while teams key on Tebow's running ability, and suddenly it's all about the running back and Tebow has nothing to do with it.

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137. "i do give him credit for that. talked with pops about it last night"
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i'll also say that if tebow is doing this now, what's he going to do when he has more experience? we know he's a project, and we give even relatively developed prospect QBs time to grow into the position.

the offense that tebow is running also allows the team to shorten the game, which plays to the strength of this team, which is the defense and specifically the world-destroying pass rush they have going on with dumervill and von miller.

at this point, i think the broncos would be insane to draft another QB this year. let Tebow grow. as he gets better, they give him more passing plays to run. in the meantime, draft heavy on defense and try to perfect the formula you have going on now.

i have no problem with anything good people want to say about tebow now that is reasonable. playing the style denver has to play with tebow is their best chance to win. he's really helped their running game. he might get a lot better. denver should stick with him.

the only thing i won't accept is any notion that he's a good quarterback now, or that he's responsible for denver winning these games. the broncos have scored 20 points in one of the six games he's started. cmon.

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138. "those are fair points, however"
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you also just got finished sarcastically saying "but tebow totally inspired Willis McGahee to dominate overtime."

So which is it - was it McGahee just dominating with Tebow being useless, or was he dominating because Tebow's read option allowed him to take off on his own for 10 yard runs or give it to McGahee when he saw the opening for it?

Other than that, I agree with pretty much everything else. He's not playing the QB position well by traditional measures, but he's winning games. The things he's doing poorly are things that can be corrected through offseason instruction and more practice/film time. They drafted him as a project, and if he's doing this well from a W/L standpoint in the early stages, they'd be foolish to not see what's gonna happen in the later stages.

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139. "it was tebow giving an opening to a capable nfl back"
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so, ok, good for tebow. if you think that makes him responsible for denver's winning streak, you just go ahead and ride that out.

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128. "MCGAHEE TO ELWAY: "IT AIN'T BROKE, DON'T FIX IT.""
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Peter King tweeted:

"Willis McGahee to me just now: 'I love our team. It is what it is. If it ain't broken, and it ain't, don't fix it.'"

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134. "without NBA agenda this is by far the best thing going!!! "
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136. "Jesus Saves Souls.Tebow Spends "
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