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"BG presents Chopper City in Da Urea: Washington Redskins 2012"


  

          

BG being Bob Griffin of course.

Whew, where to begin gents?

Tonight we see Bob take the field for the first time in burgundy and gold, behind a patchwork O-line comprised of one pro-bowl caliber left tackle and a parade of journeymen.

Look, real talk? I have absolutely no idea what to expect of this year. Last year I thought we'd be improved and we went 5-11. The Haynesworth year? I thought we were legitimately winning the NFC. Now, given that I've got us at about 4-7 wins? Shoot who knows.

Here's how I'm feeling right now.

What I Hate:
I hate our secondary. We had a terrible corps of CBs and safeties to begin with, then we let Landry and OJ Atogwe walk. Still got the ultimate hustle player in Reed Doughty doe! These guys, anchored by the increasingly more delusional DeAngelo Hall, are a mess and I am not excited about watching this unit all year. This unit is the baby shits.

What I'm lukewarm about:
The offensive weapons. On paper, a receiving corps comprised of Pierre Garcon, a 2nd year Leonard Hankerson, Santana Moss, Fred Davis, a surprising Brandon Banks, and Josh Morgan doesn't look half bad on paper. In fact it actually looks pretty solid if they can stay somewhat healthy. What I'm far less enthusiastic about is our backfield of Tim Hightower, Evan Royster, and Roy Helu. Hightower gets to stay simply because he's a fantastic blocker, Royster and Helu the jury is still out on. I'm not especially high on either guy as I think we saw everything these guys had to offer last year. Maybe that's unfair to them, it's early in their careers. Lord knows I'd love to be wrong.

What I'm genuinely excited about.
Other than Bob of course, our front 7 on defense is a legitimate thing to be optimistic about. A D-Line that boasts both talent and depth; Stephen Bowen, Barry Cofield, Adam Carriker, Kedric Gholston, and a returning Jarvis Jenkins who is said to have All Pro potential if the stars align. A LB corps that also has ample talent and several quality guys; Brian Orakpo, Ryan Kerrigan, London Fletcher, Perry Riley (the guy I'm personally most excited to watch this year other than Bob), and Lorenzo Alexander. Look if you've got a guy like Lorenzo listed as a backup then you've got somewhat of a good problem.


Is it naive of me to think that there's enough pieces in place for Bob to shine early on? I mean we aren't as loaded as the Ravens were when Pretty Flacco arrived, but I do think we're comparable to the Falcons when Matt Ryan came to the ATL.

Man I don't know what to think. I really don't. I'll settle on 7-9, with some heartbreaking close Ls there down the stretch. But at least once this year you're going to see everything click, and on that day Bob is going to look most spectacular - something to the tune of 4 TDs (two of which he runs in), 300+ yards, and no picks. It's only going to happen once. But when it does then we'll finally all breathe that collective sigh of relief, it will serve as the moment we've all been waiting for. The moment we knew that at long last we got our guy.

The OKSports Warpath crew begins congregation now. Hail Hail Hail Hail. HAIL.



  

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First thing I hate your title and calling him Bob is a thumbs down
Aug 09th 2012
1
they do it to yall EVERY year. smh.
Aug 09th 2012
2
hopefully the inevitable collapse is tempered by a World Series run
Aug 09th 2012
3
      the Nats are reminding me of the 94 Expos
Aug 09th 2012
4
Shanahan already ruining lives in fantasy football
Aug 09th 2012
5
If RG is who they say he is...then he will make this atrocious
Aug 09th 2012
6
mobile QBs dont make atrocious O-Lines serviceable
Aug 10th 2012
8
Helu was a baby
Aug 10th 2012
7
bringing the optimism. Thank you.
Aug 10th 2012
9
      smuts will come in and jinx the whole season
Aug 11th 2012
11
Bob3 > another year of the Shanaclan
Aug 10th 2012
10
Did Doughty not get beat enough last year?
Aug 13th 2012
12
He's an adequate back up.
Aug 13th 2012
13
      adequate for what?
Aug 27th 2012
21
           as a back up.
Aug 28th 2012
27
           i meant tenard jackson
Aug 28th 2012
31
                I don't even know about him
Aug 28th 2012
36
                     performance enhancing and injury problems
Aug 29th 2012
37
                          welp, so much for that. bring in reed effing doughty
Aug 31st 2012
66
The Pre-seasons pretty much done as RGIII won't be playing next week
Aug 27th 2012
14
Unfortunately not too many defenses are able to contain Brees.
Aug 27th 2012
19
Historically we match half way decently against brees
Aug 29th 2012
40
you called Cundiff, brother
Aug 29th 2012
38
      On paper it makes sense
Aug 29th 2012
41
What can you tell a Lions fan about Kevin Barnes? (we just traded for hi...
Aug 27th 2012
15
Good Ball skills, struggles in space and can't play the slot
Aug 27th 2012
16
Thanks, good write-up. Sounds like what we needed, actually.
Aug 27th 2012
17
      I wouldn't be mad with some more o lineman because we need em
Aug 27th 2012
18
           theyre talking about keeping 8 OL
Aug 27th 2012
22
                I agree, Cedrick has been terrible
Aug 28th 2012
30
He makes Jahvid Best puke.............
Aug 27th 2012
20
the WR situation:
Aug 28th 2012
23
Enjoy your time with Cundiff!
Aug 28th 2012
24
you don't know how much better he is
Aug 28th 2012
28
oh we will. #goodbye gano
Aug 28th 2012
32
Don't let one kick revise your history on him. He was incredibly consist...
Aug 29th 2012
43
Cooley gettin' released?
Aug 28th 2012
25
Confirmed via WaPo (link)
Aug 28th 2012
26
Sad day. But if he's not fullspeed
Aug 28th 2012
29
3.8 and yes you can.
Aug 28th 2012
33
      Thought he got that pass last year
Aug 28th 2012
34
      I read $6M on WaPo
Aug 28th 2012
35
           who tutors Niles Paul on how to be a TE?
Aug 29th 2012
39
                Niles Paul is built like Bron and runs a 4.4
Aug 29th 2012
42
                On the low, Redskins do a good job coaching up TEs
Aug 29th 2012
46
                     Paulsen is our blocking TE he's good at it
Aug 29th 2012
50
                     i'll accept that
Aug 30th 2012
56
Should've happened 3 years as soon as you saw the promise
Aug 29th 2012
44
      Fred was unreliable.
Aug 29th 2012
45
      Off the field he was unreliable
Aug 29th 2012
48
           he had trouble learning more complicated routes
Aug 31st 2012
60
                It doesn't really matter since its in the past and since the roster is s...
Sep 04th 2012
73
      I agree. Could have traded him for a 3rd after 2009 season.
Aug 29th 2012
47
           Hmmm I didn't even consider that
Aug 29th 2012
49
           could you?
Aug 29th 2012
51
                Agree.
Aug 29th 2012
52
                     Looking at the numbers
Aug 29th 2012
53
                          Except he set tied his career high in yards during 2010, so
Aug 29th 2012
54
                               I think he only had 3 tds that year though, not to knock his production
Aug 30th 2012
55
DEPTH? What is DEPTH? - running backs
Aug 30th 2012
57
I like the rb's but Morris is the only one healthy right now
Aug 30th 2012
58
what happened to Ryan Torain?
Aug 30th 2012
59
      not how Royster looked at the end of last year
Aug 31st 2012
61
           Royster looks like some shit, smutty
Nov 20th 2012
243
                And I was less hyped about him than a lot of people.
Nov 21st 2012
245
Hightower cut. Rumor has it we're trading for Steve Slaton.
Aug 31st 2012
62
      why Shanny whyyyyyy?
Aug 31st 2012
63
      man I like Armstrong. He's a burner too. Hmph.
Aug 31st 2012
64
      except for Morris, all the RB's are a little banged up.
Aug 31st 2012
67
           You know though...I probably woulda kept him just for extra insurance
Aug 31st 2012
69
                I would've also provided he was healthy
Sep 01st 2012
71
      Damn. I liked Hightower too
Aug 31st 2012
65
bad secondary gets worse: tanard jackson suspended for a year.
Aug 31st 2012
68
There's things this team does that I just don't understand
Sep 01st 2012
70
      they try to cut corners sometimes
Sep 03rd 2012
72
           heh
Sep 04th 2012
76
http://img2.moonbuggy.org/imgstore/crying-indian.gif
Sep 04th 2012
74
he weeps for frail Vick.
Sep 04th 2012
75
Looking good week 1
Sep 10th 2012
77
DeJon Gomes.
Sep 10th 2012
78
Whatever happened to Chris Horton....???
Sep 10th 2012
79
      the clock struck midnight his 2nd season
Sep 10th 2012
80
My Observations Against the Saints
Sep 10th 2012
81
Agree on all points
Sep 10th 2012
82
Yea he tends to get loose on us
Sep 10th 2012
84
the play of the game was not the Garcon touchdown
Sep 10th 2012
83
I forget that young folks have never enjoyed what some of the older
Sep 10th 2012
85
not to mention he had a man open in the flat too
Sep 10th 2012
88
the front 7 was wrecking the Saints.
Sep 10th 2012
86
      They never allowed Drew to set his feet
Sep 10th 2012
87
My Week 1 play of the game:
Sep 11th 2012
89
Little things that didn't happen a year ago
Sep 11th 2012
90
      HAIL!
Sep 11th 2012
91
           the secondary is definitely the weak link
Sep 11th 2012
92
                I agree, our secondary is our weak link
Sep 11th 2012
93
                     Roethlisberger on the road, Ryan/Flacco at home, Romo 2x, Eli 2x
Sep 11th 2012
94
                          Right, those are all very difficult games for us
Sep 12th 2012
95
Bob on the cover of SI...
Sep 12th 2012
96
though it isn't about him, I like "the boy they couldn't kill" above him
Sep 12th 2012
97
"the boy they couldn't kill" quote
Sep 12th 2012
99
This dude seems to be the complete package
Sep 12th 2012
98
NFC Offensive Player of the Week...
Sep 12th 2012
100
My Thoughts on Week 2 vs the Rams
Sep 17th 2012
101
I want a "Haslett Fired as DC, Morris Hired" headline this week.
Sep 17th 2012
102
I don't think you'd be alone in that
Sep 17th 2012
103
      which is exactly why we should do it
Sep 17th 2012
110
           We're not set for his system and at this point it'd be silly to change
Sep 17th 2012
114
                here's what i'm saying, it's a wrap for us defensively
Sep 18th 2012
117
                     Sorry fam, we drafted, and we made moves in free agency for this D
Sep 18th 2012
119
that game was chippy/dirty as hell
Sep 17th 2012
105
The game was dirty, it was way over the line a lot of times
Sep 17th 2012
106
I am so glad I get to read your posts whenever I miss the game....
Sep 17th 2012
109
      Thanks man, i'm glad someone reads those long ass posts
Sep 17th 2012
115
Orakpo and Carriker are now done for the season
Sep 17th 2012
104
that is a real blower
Sep 17th 2012
107
Wow...we're gonna get killed on D.....
Sep 17th 2012
108
BG gonna have to score 1983 regular season level points
Sep 17th 2012
111
WHOA.
Sep 18th 2012
118
here's what's weird:
Sep 17th 2012
112
If RG3 can stay healthy
Sep 17th 2012
113
I know what you're saying and for the most part I agree
Sep 17th 2012
116
I didn't see the game, but I would like to point you toward post 101
Sep 23rd 2012
120
Team Prez Shanahan fucked up the defense from day 1
Sep 23rd 2012
121
      Yea I think we went over this when they switched to the 3-4
Sep 24th 2012
122
           it's as much talent as it is scheme man.
Sep 24th 2012
124
                I feel you, but if you know your DB's are you weak point
Sep 24th 2012
125
                     you can tell when a big pass play is about to happen
Sep 24th 2012
126
                          Yea that's that Zero Coverage I was talking about,
Sep 24th 2012
127
                               Weren't they doing this last season?
Sep 26th 2012
144
                                    Yea they ran it last season
Sep 26th 2012
145
posted Thursday, August 9th:
Sep 24th 2012
123
They need to stop this Madden-esque offense.
Sep 24th 2012
128
at the most critical moment yesterday, Davis ran offsides
Sep 24th 2012
129
As Doc Walker said about RGIII
Sep 24th 2012
130
I feel you, The Coaching staff has to save him from himself
Sep 24th 2012
133
the triple option needs to go like NOW
Sep 25th 2012
134
They have to find a way to protect their Franchise
Sep 26th 2012
135
We the highest scoring team in the league tho....
Sep 26th 2012
139
So was Joe Gibbs his first 5 games he went 0-5
Sep 26th 2012
141
Should I be eating my words here now, 9 games later????????
Dec 07th 2012
266
the thing is...the scehedule doesnt get any easier
Sep 24th 2012
131
ALSO fuck mara for takin our $$
Sep 24th 2012
132
The latest is that we reached an agreement with Ryan Grant
Sep 26th 2012
136
Helu has been placed on IR
Sep 26th 2012
137
Had high hopes for Helu, but Grant is a solid signing.
Sep 26th 2012
138
Royster been hurt since preseason we'll see if he can get healthy
Sep 26th 2012
142
Cooley
Sep 26th 2012
140
      Well unless some injuries occur he's gonna be retired
Sep 26th 2012
143
My Observations Week 4 Against Tampa Bay
Oct 01st 2012
146
Can Kyle burn the "triple option play" page from his book?
Oct 02nd 2012
147
As Griff learns more and mroe of the offense it enables them to
Oct 02nd 2012
148
      Honestly I don't think it's about him learning
Oct 02nd 2012
152
           I don't think the line has that much to do with it
Oct 02nd 2012
154
                That's the thing that puzzles me about the line...
Oct 03rd 2012
156
                     If they got a decent RT we could get by with our G-C-G
Oct 03rd 2012
157
Next week: At least let it be a shoot-out loss...
Oct 02nd 2012
149
      we need like a 30 point head start
Oct 02nd 2012
150
      I think we have a chance, btu we don't really have the horses
Oct 02nd 2012
151
           there's a way to beat this Falcons team; run, run, and run.
Oct 02nd 2012
153
                The Shanahans have to come up with a masterpiece gameplan...
Oct 03rd 2012
155
Really glad they didn't try to put him back in.
Oct 08th 2012
158
Why can't they figure out kicking situation?
Oct 08th 2012
159
what a fucking shitshow
Oct 08th 2012
160
and why did they let suisham go again?
Oct 08th 2012
161
As I recall, he kinda sucked for us.
Oct 08th 2012
162
      Yeah, he was really bad. I was shocked when he got picked up
Oct 08th 2012
167
      why does EVERY kicker suck for us?
Oct 09th 2012
169
           yeah, somethings not right
Oct 09th 2012
172
I'd cut him for the post-game comment alone:
Oct 08th 2012
163
      haha
Oct 08th 2012
164
      correct
Oct 08th 2012
165
      What an idiot
Oct 08th 2012
168
      Holeee sheeeiiittt!
Oct 09th 2012
171
For the year Cundiff is 58.3%by far the worst in the league
Oct 08th 2012
166
      four years into a rebuild *(dramatic pause)* is not a surprise
Oct 09th 2012
170
           We've been the worst kicking team in the league for like 5 years
Oct 09th 2012
173
                apparently danny smith has not had input on picking ST players
Oct 09th 2012
174
                     Then they've got to do something,
Oct 09th 2012
175
Welp bye Billy, welcome Kai Forbath
Oct 09th 2012
176
Pro: lou groza award winner. Con: so was graham gano
Oct 09th 2012
177
Good. How about they get one right some time?
Oct 09th 2012
178
My Thoughts before we face the Giants
Oct 17th 2012
179
http://whodatdish.com/files/2012/01/raheem-morris1.jpg
Oct 21st 2012
180
4 weeks later and Haslett still needs to be fired
Oct 21st 2012
181
Agree
Oct 21st 2012
182
agreed
Oct 21st 2012
183
^
Oct 21st 2012
184
and still, both Robert Griffin and Bryce Harper play in the same city.
Oct 22nd 2012
185
Sounds like Cooley is coming back
Oct 22nd 2012
186
So i've been watching this play more and more
Oct 23rd 2012
187
the stupidity is almost impossible to grasp.
Oct 23rd 2012
188
1:13, seriously you're the deep safety
Oct 23rd 2012
189
obviously safety is a huge need
Oct 23rd 2012
190
      We're still paying dearly for the losses of Ryan Clark and Sean Taylor
Oct 23rd 2012
192
      i am pleased with the effort (c) Shanny
Oct 23rd 2012
193
           it was an ok plan in August but it's almost November.
Oct 23rd 2012
194
                it was damned if you do damned if you dont
Oct 23rd 2012
195
                     But that allows you ANOTHER PLAY
Oct 23rd 2012
196
                     haslett's been playing madden!
Oct 23rd 2012
202
                          I agree, we're outgunned on the Defensive side of the ball
Oct 24th 2012
208
                     nah as long as you keep him in front of you
Oct 23rd 2012
205
What kills me even more is
Oct 23rd 2012
191
      He's the DB coach, but he doesn't make any calls
Oct 23rd 2012
197
Letting Landry go was a huge mistake
Oct 23rd 2012
198
was it?
Oct 23rd 2012
199
RE: was it?
Oct 23rd 2012
200
Truth....And he was slow...
Oct 24th 2012
207
watching Landry give up touchdowns to Gronk
Oct 23rd 2012
201
as previously stated, no it wasnt. nm
Oct 23rd 2012
203
AND josh wilson gave him a free release off the line.
Oct 23rd 2012
204
Nicks was nicked up. Cruz was the ONLY deep threat on the field
Oct 23rd 2012
206
More on "the play"
Oct 24th 2012
209
      That doesn't make me feel any better
Oct 24th 2012
210
My Thoughts on Skins vs Steelers
Oct 29th 2012
211
this was my main takeaway
Oct 29th 2012
212
Dog we're punting on that down anyway SOMEONE should've
Oct 29th 2012
214
The state of the team is pretty obvious
Oct 29th 2012
213
      I was having this conversation today about our lack of talent
Oct 29th 2012
215
           late round drafting and free agents have been shitty.
Oct 29th 2012
216
                As i've said before Shanahan is not the man you want picking talent
Oct 30th 2012
217
                     the "Football Man" that runs the entire show shit is over with
Oct 30th 2012
218
                     He was fired for it in DEN
Oct 31st 2012
219
Rumblings I'm hearing that I don't like
Nov 05th 2012
220
I haven't heard #1. I think people hate everything bout this team today.
Nov 05th 2012
221
      Remember the excitement of a few weeks ago?
Nov 05th 2012
225
           in all seriousness, I could do without EVERYONE but Griffin
Nov 05th 2012
231
                take it easy, take it easy
Nov 05th 2012
232
Josh Wilson kinda sucks
Nov 05th 2012
222
a team full of bums
Nov 05th 2012
223
Garcon's is a toe ligament
Nov 05th 2012
224
      You've given up on Kerrigan already?
Nov 05th 2012
226
           RE: You've given up on Kerrigan already?
Nov 05th 2012
227
                he was good when Rak was there, invisible now that he is gone
Nov 05th 2012
228
My Observations Panthers At Skins
Nov 05th 2012
229
RE: My Observations Panthers At Skins
Nov 05th 2012
230
tell me what you think about this theory of mine:
Nov 05th 2012
233
      First that Houston play was on Reed Doughty
Nov 05th 2012
234
           we're 2.5 years in.
Nov 05th 2012
235
                Well lets be honest, he fucked up when he switched to the 3-4
Nov 05th 2012
236
                     we're in infinitely better shape @ the most important pos.
Nov 05th 2012
237
                          That's some pretty damning factual proof that Shanny gotta go
Nov 05th 2012
238
Meriweather out for season, SMH
Nov 19th 2012
239
bamma got muscles made of string cheese jesus
Nov 19th 2012
240
Meriweather isn't very good.
Nov 20th 2012
241
As soon as I saw him go down with no contact I knew what it was
Nov 20th 2012
242
      thursday is 50/50 bro. cheer up
Nov 20th 2012
244
           The Boys line is beat up, but we have trouble getting Romo
Nov 21st 2012
246
RG3 since the Bye Week:
Nov 24th 2012
247
the blackman is god
Nov 25th 2012
249
i had a daydream RGIII was throwing to monk, clark, and sanders
Nov 24th 2012
248
posse 2012
Nov 25th 2012
250
RIP Sean Taylor
Nov 27th 2012
251
When's the last time we ran thru the NFC East like that?
Dec 04th 2012
252
Probably when they swept the division with Gibbs
Dec 04th 2012
253
Pierre Garcon is good.
Dec 04th 2012
254
This has been a pretty great little stretch for this team
Dec 05th 2012
255
we're going to beat the Ravens, lose @ CLE, win out (3-1)
Dec 05th 2012
256
I would love nothing more
Dec 05th 2012
257
man we gon talk awl kindsa shit to them salty giants fans
Dec 05th 2012
258
LOL
Dec 06th 2012
260
I would also argue the OL has played well above what we thought...
Dec 07th 2012
267
      the product of playing 12 straight games together.
Dec 07th 2012
268
      Yes.
Dec 07th 2012
269
           CORRECT
Dec 07th 2012
271
           and props to GM shanny for drafting trent
Dec 07th 2012
272
                Yes
Dec 07th 2012
274
CB Korey Lindsey signed to the practice squad
Dec 05th 2012
259
actually, Niles Paul is a really really good return man
Dec 06th 2012
261
he's too small to be a TE, IMO
Dec 06th 2012
263
he also blows people up on occasion when we're punting
Dec 06th 2012
264
only memories I have of Paul this year
Dec 06th 2012
262
My favorite 'Skins player OAT, Art Monk, Inducted into the CFB HOF!!!
Dec 07th 2012
265
Art Monk is my favorite Athelete of ALL time. higher than MJ
Dec 07th 2012
270
      Watching him and DG getting in LIVE was a highlight of my life.
Dec 07th 2012
273
           Art was my hero, for real
Dec 12th 2012
290
                My Father and I both shed a tear
Dec 13th 2012
292
One of these things is not like the other.
Dec 10th 2012
275
well Rypien did win a SB, lol
Dec 10th 2012
276
      lol... damn, I remember Todd Collins
Dec 10th 2012
278
for three weeks in a row, this is what I've said:
Dec 10th 2012
277
yesterday was fucking crazy.
Dec 10th 2012
279
      yes, finally a team worth watching...
Dec 11th 2012
280
           my dad flirted with the idea of getting season tix my whole life
Dec 11th 2012
281
                i've pitched every season ticket offer they've sent me the last 5 years
Dec 11th 2012
282
                     Its actually a pretty shitty gameday experience
Dec 11th 2012
283
                          I would've said the same thing before Sunday
Dec 11th 2012
284
                               That's great to hear, but I know for a fact it'll do nothing for the
Dec 12th 2012
285
                                    I would pay any amount of $ to see one more game at RFK
Dec 12th 2012
286
                                    They took all the seats out dog, its gone my baby gone!!
Dec 12th 2012
288
                                    they shoulda had one home game at RFK
Dec 12th 2012
291
                                         I would have paid a very pretty penny for a ticket
Dec 18th 2012
300
                                    the crowd really is why I don't really go anymore.
Dec 12th 2012
287
                                         The Amount of fights there would freak me out
Dec 12th 2012
289
the announcers were really pissing me off
Dec 17th 2012
293
Naw they were right, MOST people here criticized the move
Dec 17th 2012
294
yep. even i did, but hey, i don't mind being proven wrong
Dec 17th 2012
295
Not on any blogs/boards/friends I saw
Dec 17th 2012
297
      Yea everyone supported getting rid of Rex
Dec 18th 2012
301
that was one of the worst announce crews ever
Dec 17th 2012
298
      I had gotten used to getting good announcing teams this year.
Dec 18th 2012
299
           We're going to get the middle crew next week
Dec 18th 2012
302
Skins @ Browns
Dec 17th 2012
296
10 WINS! NFC EAST CHAMPS! PLAYOFFS!
Dec 30th 2012
303
we still wanna fire Haslett?
Dec 31st 2012
304
i suppose it depends on who we can get
Dec 31st 2012
305
Need WRs.
Dec 31st 2012
309
      Its not as big of a need as DBs are at the moment. We need safeties like
Dec 31st 2012
317
           truth.
Dec 31st 2012
319
Give him some top tier safeties first, then we'll see.........
Dec 31st 2012
307
great game tonight
Dec 31st 2012
308
I have to admit, he has been coaching his ass off
Dec 31st 2012
310
I have to give credit where it's due. Don't know how he's doing it.
Dec 31st 2012
312
the d has really stepped up since the bye.
Dec 31st 2012
314
WE WANT SEATTLE!!!
Dec 31st 2012
306
I'm glad the game is at FedEx
Dec 31st 2012
311
      so glad...
Dec 31st 2012
313
           there really isnt a team in the nfc to fear
Dec 31st 2012
315
                Seattle is the best defense they've played in weeks
Dec 31st 2012
316
                     i hope b.mitch was right
Dec 31st 2012
318
Division CHAMPS!!! 10-6 I never imagined they do this, this year
Dec 31st 2012
320
Even in a best-case RG3 rookie year
Dec 31st 2012
321
      I don't think anyone did.
Dec 31st 2012
322
End of the season post. After Loss to Seattle
Jan 07th 2013
323
that's as good a note as any.
Jan 07th 2013
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Dae021
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1. "First thing I hate your title and calling him Bob is a thumbs down"
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On to the Redskins talk

- Our Db's are not our strong point, we're going to rely on our front to get pressure to make life easier on those DB's. Hall's getting moved into the slot as more of a Charles Woodson type of player. The problem is hall isn't as big, nor as great a player as woodson is. So this will end up getting us hurt at certain points throughout the year.

- Our Front 7 should be good, but we need another LB, if Perry Riley isnt' ready to make the jump this year we need to find another LB fast, London isn't going to play forever, and not having Jonathan Goff hurts our depth. Lorenzo is a great plug guy, but if he were that good at any one position he wouldn't be asked to play 5 different positions. We're going to need to bolster that over the next few years.

- RG won't be great right away, and I don't expect him to be. I think in 3 years we'll start to see him put everything together. if he does things before then great, but I don't expect too much from him. His accuracy is going to be a problem through portions of the year and decision making, but those things come with being a rookie and as long as everyone is patient and he's progressing we'll be fine.

- Our backfield will be servicable, but with a rag-tag line and no real stud back there we're in for some trouble for the next few years. We'll probably have to use our 2nd rounder on a lineman next year, but we're going to need a game changing rb sooner rather than later.

- Gano looks like he's beating out Rackers in practices and he'll kick first tonight. I hope that Gano isn't on the team this year, they've given this kid a ton of opportunities and he's consistently kicked at a low level. I'ma need him to either get right, or get gone. If that kicker from boise is coming out next year bring him into practice and lets see what he can do.

- I'm excited because it's football season, but really I can see another 6-10 season with our BRUTAL back stretch of a schedule it's going to get really difficult really fast.

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Binlahab
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2. "they do it to yall EVERY year. smh."
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they gonna win like 3 in a row. whole city goes apeshit. thank god chris paul hoe ass aint on 95.5 anymore so i dont have to listen to those insipid redskin victory songs

but then they'll lose like...10 out the next 11.

& yall will be like WHY GOD!

i predict somebody making a 'RG3 is some bullshit' type post OHHHHH around week 8.

i predict my FB timeline to be full of 'somebody PLEASE kill snyder!!!' type posts...ohh, around week 9.

its a annual thing. cant wait really

  

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3. "hopefully the inevitable collapse is tempered by a World Series run"
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Dr Claw
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4. "the Nats are reminding me of the 94 Expos"
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only this year we'll actually get to see that season end

  

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rjc27
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5. "Shanahan already ruining lives in fantasy football"
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B.J.S.301
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6. "If RG is who they say he is...then he will make this atrocious "
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O-line halfway serviceable. I will admit though, outside of RG3 maybe, I am not impressed with this football team.

Landry needed to go. He's been injured. Definitely a serviceable dude but not worth what the team would have had to pay him. Problem is they didn't go after anybody to replace him. So yeah I agree about the secondary being in a bad position. I wish they could trade DeAngelo Hall's non-tackling, soft self. I can't stand the way he plays. He gives up way too many big plays for the few ints that he makes.

Not impressed with the offense at all. There is not one person on that side of the ball who is a true game changer. There were so many times last year when the defense came up with a timely stop only for it to yield nothing because the offense couldn't get going. Part of it though I blame on Kyle Shanahan being incompetent, but there really isn't that much talent on that side of the ball. There might be some potential but ain't no real results out on the field yet. Them young guys gotta step up their game. Can't hold hopes on potential forever. I don't deny their effort. I think they have it in that department, but if they still come up short then we gotta upgrade.

The defense is good. Not great, not dominant, but very good. I actually liked that side of the ball because they actually gave the offense back the ball and got a lot of sacks. They still have a LOT of work to do, even with a thin secondary. If we can give up less big plays this season, I will be estatic.

  

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AlBundy
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8. "mobile QBs dont make atrocious O-Lines serviceable"
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hopefully RG3 plays 12 or more games and doesnt suffer a career ending injury when
someone comes unblocked and chops his head off

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AlBundy
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7. "Helu was a baby"
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how in the fuck you think thats all he has to offer?

Jarvis Jenkins wont be all-pro, only because they keep saying he is.

D. Hall need to get benched. That boy cocky and stay getting toasted.
Its not even the getting toasted, he's always good to give up a first down when the opponent needs it. FUCK him

and goddamn we STILL dont have an NFL quality O-Line? RG3 gonna get killed
then Sexy Rexy gonna kill us.

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9. "bringing the optimism. Thank you."
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AlBundy
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11. "smuts will come in and jinx the whole season"
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i provide a friendly counter balance, brotha

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Dre makes no apologies for his own eccentricities. “I was young, and searching, trying to find myself,” he says. “Never did.”-- Andre B

  

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smutsboy
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10. "Bob3 > another year of the Shanaclan"
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Getting Bob is probably one of the few things that could've kept me really interested in another season of Coach/Pres Shanahan. (how many double digit loss seasons is it going to be?)

I'm really excited for one of the best QB prospects of the past 15 years. However the plan only works if you draft well in the late rounds to make up for the lost draft picks.

*crickets*

Anyway...

OL: Would help immensley if Trent Williams takes a big step forward this year. Licht being injured hurts, he was playing well last year. Will Montgomery and Chester whatshisname are both replacement level. RT is a huge problem.

WR: Overpaid for Garcon & Morgan but this should be a decent/average group and Garcon is pretty good (though not a WR1). Really rooting for Hankerson and I'm glad we kept Moss. Like the veteran presence.

RB: I'm hugely biased for Helu. I think he's got real potential. Durability is a concern and he needs to learn pass blocking but I think he could be a star. Hightower is a good blocker, that's it. Royster is a good depth guy.

TE: Davis is good if he can keep out of court for more than 6 months. I'd keep Cooley if he's at all healthy.

Defense...

Front 7: Maybe the best unit on the team. DL depth is good. Jarvis is playing this year. MLBs are great as long as London continues to defy age. Riley looks like a good young player. Kerrakpo might be the best OLB combo in the NFL.

Secondary: biggest weakness on the team but that's ok. I'm glad they focused on offense and other areas. If Merriweather stops sucking that would be huge. Josh Wilson & D Hall are ok, not the worst CBs in the league, but not the best either.

Coaches:

Definition of mediocrity. Haslett almost never coaches an elite defense, and Shanahan hasn't shown much in two years of picking players or coaching. I have no loyalty or high hopes towards them.

As with last year, I care less about record than I do about development, especially with a franchise QB to develop.

Unless RGIII has an all-time great year like Cam did and we go to the playoffs. But I'm not holding my breath.

So...

In Bob (and Trent and London) and Late Round Draft Picks We Trust.

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twistyroad
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12. "Did Doughty not get beat enough last year?"
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Why are they still paying this chump?

  

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smutsboy
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13. "He's an adequate back up."
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AlBundy
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21. "adequate for what?"
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the bitch cant play. hopefully tavaris takes his spot

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Dre makes no apologies for his own eccentricities. “I was young, and searching, trying to find myself,” he says. “Never did.”-- Andre B

  

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smutsboy
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27. "as a back up."
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as a spot starter.

as a guy who's good near the LOS but gets lost in coverage sometimes.

you can't have a starter at every back up position.

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AlBundy
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31. "i meant tenard jackson"
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“The other dude after me didn’t help my case. It was just like…crazy nigga factory going on.”
Dre makes no apologies for his own eccentricities. “I was young, and searching, trying to find myself,” he says. “Never did.”-- Andre B

  

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smutsboy
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36. "I don't even know about him"
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we're skimping on the secondary this year but I'm ok with that.

We spent the past 12 years devoting too much to defense, and to the secondary specifically.

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AlBundy
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37. "performance enhancing and injury problems"
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way more athletic than doughty (who isnt?)
from the urea
played under Raheem in TB

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“The other dude after me didn’t help my case. It was just like…crazy nigga factory going on.”
Dre makes no apologies for his own eccentricities. “I was young, and searching, trying to find myself,” he says. “Never did.”-- Andre B

  

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AlBundy
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66. "welp, so much for that. bring in reed effing doughty"
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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000057120/article/tanard-jackson-of-redskins-suspended-indefinitely

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“The other dude after me didn’t help my case. It was just like…crazy nigga factory going on.”
Dre makes no apologies for his own eccentricities. “I was young, and searching, trying to find myself,” he says. “Never did.”-- Andre B

  

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Dae021
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14. "The Pre-seasons pretty much done as RGIII won't be playing next week"
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A few things to note

- Gano beat out Rackers, so we're stuck with Gano AGAIN!!! Please call Billy Cundiff or someone I can't have another season of games being lost by 3 or less and Gano missing a fg in each of those games.

- O line looks like a work in progress. We'll see if they gel in time for the back half of this season as it gets brutal after October 7th really.

- Right now today Morris is the best back we got. He has a real good understanding of the one cut system and shows toughness, size and some burst. I think I like him over Royster and Helu at this point. Not sure where Hightower is with his health, but he missed cut back lanes last year so i don't magically expect him to be able to see them this year. Of this I believe Shanny can make work though.

- Hard to get a real bead on playcalling during the preseason because you're not sure if they even game planned for the opponent but I still don't like Kyle Shanahan.

- If our front 7 don't wreak havoc we're going to be in trouble with our db's.

- Just as we were ready to sell Rex to the scrap yard he goes 8 for 8 for 2 tds and basically solidifies his place as the backup. sucks

- The season's almost here and I'm worried our D won't be able to contain Drew Brees.

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B.J.S.301
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19. "Unfortunately not too many defenses are able to contain Brees. "
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Might as well face that reality. I do hope though that they address the secondary issues in this next offseason, draft or otherwise.

For real though, as long as the offense shows some promise and consistency (not consistently bad type of consistency) then I am happy. I do agree though, we overpaid like shit for those WR.

  

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Dae021
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40. "Historically we match half way decently against brees"
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If it werent' for that interception, then take away by I think Colston and Laron not staying deep on a deep post we would've won taht game. It won't matter though, with this group of db's we're in trouble.

- We definitely overpaid for Garcon, but he's young enough to grow with RG. Its like they may not be worth that much, but the market dictates that they could get xmillion, so to get them you've got to pay Y. We needed youth and size and speed on the outside and I think we've got ti now, we just have to wait 2 years to get it. Honestly I would love to have the giants wr coach, but then that would mean we'd have their Headcoach as well Since Tom Coughlin coaches their wr. They continue to develop wr's at an alarming rate. We havent' developed anyone ever really.

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AlBundy
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38. "you called Cundiff, brother"
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yeah he blew it for the Ravens, but i'll take anyone in a pressure situation over goddamn Gano

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Dre makes no apologies for his own eccentricities. “I was young, and searching, trying to find myself,” he says. “Never did.”-- Andre B

  

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Dae021
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41. "On paper it makes sense"
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Gano has a very strong leg, which is how he beat out rackers but he missed 10 kicks last year, and that's unacceptable especialyl to a team that's still trying to find an identity. When you have little to no margin for error in order to win games, you can't miss 10 kicks a season.

People blame cundiff, but if Lee Evans makes a catch Cundiff isn't even on the field, still I know a 32 yarder he needs to make in his sleep i get it, but he's been WAY more consistent thatn Gano so i'll take it.

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Jayson Willyams
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15. "What can you tell a Lions fan about Kevin Barnes? (we just traded for hi..."
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Kevin barnes said he was traded to detroit. Just talked to him. Initially he thought he was being released. Not sure for what yet. #redskins
— John Keim (@john_keim) August 27, 2012

Literally never heard of him before. Is he any good? Our top 2 CBs went down with injuries Saturday, so lord knows we need the depth.

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Dae021
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16. "Good Ball skills, struggles in space and can't play the slot"
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His technique isn't that great. he's still young enough with some coaching and someone committing to him that he'll grow into a better player. They really wanted him to take the next step here and he just never did.

He's a middle round player that you just expected to become a consistent contributor but because of injuries he was forced to play a larger role then was intended.

He's not bad, he hustles but he's not a #1.

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17. "Thanks, good write-up. Sounds like what we needed, actually."
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>His technique isn't that great. he's still young enough with
>some coaching and someone committing to him that he'll grow
>into a better player.

Well he's definitely not getting that here. We haven't developed a CB since Night Train.

>They really wanted him to take the next
>step here and he just never did.
>
>He's a middle round player that you just expected to become a
>consistent contributor but because of injuries he was forced
>to play a larger role then was intended.

This will be exactly his role in Detroit. "Guy who plays too much because everyone better than him is injured" leads our secondary in snaps every year.

>He's not bad, he hustles but he's not a #1.

Funny that you mentioned his biggest weakness is ball skills--Chris Houston's biggest knock in Atlanta was that he couldn't turn his head and locate the ball, and he's actually been really solid in that area. I don't know if that's due to coaching (hah), experience, or going up against Calvin every day, but at least he improved on it.

EDIT: totally misread that. "Good ball skills" is better than "bad skills."

Don't know who you're getting in return, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was either a late-round pick or an O-linemen. We actually have some O-line depth this year, and a guy like Corey Hilliard or Johnathan Scott might be coming your way.

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Dae021
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18. "I wouldn't be mad with some more o lineman because we need em"
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Sounds like it works for both teams.

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AlBundy
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22. "theyre talking about keeping 8 OL"
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instead of 9. Its a late round draft pick.
not sure wtf the logic of this trade is as
he's better than cedric griffin is playing atm.

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Dae021
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30. "I agree, Cedrick has been terrible"
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The majority of our DB's have been really bad also.

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20. "He makes Jahvid Best puke............."
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Tiger Woods
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23. "the WR situation:"
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Tue Aug-28-12 09:53 AM by Tiger Woods

  

          

locks:
Pierre Garcon
Santana Moss
Josh Morgan
Leonard Hankerson

the rest:
Anthony Armstrong
Terrence Austin
Brandon Banks
Dezmon Briscoe



Here's my take on it:

Armstrong isn't anything to write home about as a pass catching threat, but he plays special teams which apparently is of huge value with Shanahan and Danny Smith because none of the other WRs do.

In my opinion, Terrence Austin actually runs better routes than Armstrong but is a 7th round pick and was a long shot to make the team this year anyway.

Brandon Banks technically counts as a receiver. Off-the-field knucklehead but the only true home run hitter we have on the entire team. Not a pass catching asset whatsoever but, again, has to be filed as a WR.

Dezmon Briscoe is 6'2 and weighs in at over 220 and I've seen him listed at over 230 in some places even. Obviously he brings much needed size to the WR corps and I think he could be a valued target in the red zone. Unfortunately he also plays no special teams which is said to bring his stock down in a major way out in Ashburn. They're going to cut this guy, and he's going to get claimed, and he's going to contribute to someone else's team, and I'm going to be furious about it.


if I had my way, we'd cut Cooley to open up space for carrying 6 WRs - Banks and Briscoe being the extra 2 guys. I get the value of having guys that play special teams, but the value of having guys who can yield YAC and touchdowns is greater. Furthermore, Cooley really brings nothing to the table at this point other than blocking and there's no way in hell he's as fast at Fred Davis or Niles Paul. It's time, and WR is a major area of concern and Bob deserves all the weapons he can get.


  

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24. "Enjoy your time with Cundiff!"
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28. "you don't know how much better he is"
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than every kicker we've had since Chip Lohmiller.

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32. "oh we will. #goodbye gano"
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43. "Don't let one kick revise your history on him. He was incredibly consist..."
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He'll be much better than Gano, he doesn't have that 50 plus yard leg, but he's accurate inside of 47 and that's what I want.

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25. "Cooley gettin' released?"
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...buzz on twitter via @wtopsports

  

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26. "Confirmed via WaPo (link)"
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/post/redskins-release-chris-cooley/2012/08/28/768232e0-f138-11e1-adc6-87dfa8eff430_blog.html

The Washington Redskins released tight end Chris Cooley Tuesday.

“It’s been awesome,” Cooley said.

The move was announced after Tuesday’s practice.

Cooley said he believes he still can be a productive NFL player but it would be difficult for him to play for another team.

“I’ll take some time and make sure what I do in the future is exactly what I want to do,” Cooley said.

Cooley said he leaves with no hard feelings toward the organization.

Redskins Coach Mike Shanahan said: “We know how much Chris has meant to this organization and this community.”

Cooley wants to be a starter, Shanahan said, and the coach told him that Fred Davis is the Redskins’ starter. The team is giving Cooley an opportunity to seek a starting job elsewhere, Shanahan said.

“I think he’s earned that right,” Shanahan said.

Shanahan said the two sides did not discuss Cooley’s contract. The tight end, who has filled in at fullback with starter Darrel Young injured, would have counted more than $6 million against the salary cap this season if he had remained with the team.

Shanahan did not rule out the possibility of the Redskins re-signing Cooley if he is unable to find a starting job elsewhere.

“There’s a lot of scenarios that could still occur,” Shanahan said. “... Chris wants to be a starter in the National Football League.”

Cooley had said during training camp that he was willing to fill any role to remain with the team. He played regularly at fullback during the Redskins’ three preseason games.

Shanahan said he wishes Cooley well and the team thought it did what is right for itself and Cooley.

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29. "Sad day. But if he's not fullspeed"
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you can't pay him $6M

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33. "3.8 and yes you can."
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thats one guy who shouldve got a one year pass

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34. "Thought he got that pass last year"
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Still gonna miss that dude though

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35. "I read $6M on WaPo"
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and money aside, if he's not fully healthy you can't keep him.

he's easily one of my all-time favorite skins, an all around good dude, and one of the few who suffered through the Snyder years with us.

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39. "who tutors Niles Paul on how to be a TE?"
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Fred Davis? Historically, our coaching staff cant be relied on to make anyone better.
He did get that pass last year i suppose. Im ok with it. It sucks though.
I can see Cooley signing with the Giants and breaking a D'Angelo Hall "tackle" on his way to the endzone-- running all janky and slow

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42. "Niles Paul is built like Bron and runs a 4.4"
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Very much unlike Cooley.

I'm actually glad they cut ties with him, but they could've done it in the Spring.

  

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46. "On the low, Redskins do a good job coaching up TEs"
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Cooley was a 3rd round draft pick that made the Pro Bowl and Davis turned out to be pretty good (although I would argue overrated, just like Cooley was). Yoder caught 6 TDs in his 4 seasons as a backup. I would argue that Logan Paulson, if he can stop committing so many penalties, would be a solid starter.

  

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50. "Paulsen is our blocking TE he's good at it"
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Except when he gets those hands outside the numbers.

You may be right about TE coaching though.

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56. "i'll accept that"
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still i think its coincidence.

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44. "Should've happened 3 years as soon as you saw the promise "
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In Fred, instead you kept him too long and too many injuries.

I love that dude for being Mr. Redskin and actually embracing this city but if it were the Eagles or Steelers he would've been gone.

On some real shit though, this dude came to Washington with a wife, as a mormon, then was partying with cheerleaders in the house that the wife was still in left her, and started taking pictures of his dick and telling the cowboys he hated them.

I fool with Cooley though

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45. "Fred was unreliable."
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on and off the field.

Shit he's still unreliable and not a smart dude, but Cooley's injuries & age caught up.

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48. "Off the field he was unreliable"
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On the field he showed more speed down the field and his potential was higher than Cooley's highest and that was the probowl. Now granted he wasn't as good a blocker (but to be honest neither was Cooley when he first got here)

As much as I love CC, Fred has more upside and if we could develop some of our talent the way the good teams do it would've been a no brainer.

I stand by my statement we should've traded him years ago.

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60. "he had trouble learning more complicated routes"
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he's just not that smart of a football player.

he lacked the other things you need besides size & speed.

I am fine with how long they kept Cooley.

This team needed all the hardworking, football-smart vets they could get.

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73. "It doesn't really matter since its in the past and since the roster is s..."
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So I think Cooley for his service and hope he and his cheerleader wife can collect checks elsewhere.

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47. "I agree. Could have traded him for a 3rd after 2009 season."
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Unfortunately, Cerrato needed all the goodwill he could muster for one final season, and trading Cooley would have been unforgivable at that point.

  

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49. "Hmmm I didn't even consider that"
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Shit its not like folks could've hated him any less.

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51. "could you?"
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I think the trade value of Chris Cooley was always exaggerated by we Skins fan faithful.

In truth, his peers for the majority of his career were Antonio Gates, Jason Witten, Tony Gonzalez, and Dallas Clark. All of those guys were and mostly still are better than Cooley ever was and none of those guys wouldn have earned more than a mid-to-late round 2nd at the height of their peak (save for MAYBE Gates.)

  

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52. "Agree."
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28 year old TEs (or any player) are rarely traded for anything significant, except when the Panthers made that dumb trade for Greg Olsen

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53. "Looking at the numbers "
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He could've garnered 3rd round consideration BEFORE the 2009 season, but nothing close to that after.

All season before that he was an extremely productive offensive player, but after he was a shell and a personality.

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54. "Except he set tied his career high in yards during 2010, so "
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clearly he DID have something left in the tank if you look at the numbers.

Shockey went to New Orleans for a 2nd and a 5th in 2008. This trade occurred despite the fact that Shockey had just broken his leg the season before. Cooley broke his leg during 2009, the season after which I claimed he could have been traded for a 3rd. Cooley and Shockey were peers, with Shockey generally being more of a brand name due to his 1st round draft pick status and breakout rookie season. Shockey was 27 during the season he broke his leg, after which he was traded. Cooley was 27 during the season he broke his leg, after which I think we could have traded him for a 3rd. Shockey also had a long history of injury, while Cooley had not missed a single game.

IMO, it's pretty clear he could have garnered a 3rd after the 2009 season. Shockey had more of an injury history and was the same age, yet went for a 2nd and a 5th.

  

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55. "I think he only had 3 tds that year though, not to knock his production"
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Because 77 catches and 847 yards is nothing to sneeze at.

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57. "DEPTH? What is DEPTH? - running backs"
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here's what we've got:

- Roy Helu
- Evan Royster
- Tim Hightower
- Alfred Morris

I like all of these guys for what they each bring together. The most successful teams operate the position by committee anyway, and all four of these dudes brings a unique skill set to the table. Hightower is by far the most effective blocker in pass pro, Helu the most potentially explosive, Royster a great downhill one cut back for 4 yards clips, and Morris a physical hit the hole and punish them runner. I'm not sure how they sort this out, but I really do like this group.

  

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58. "I like the rb's but Morris is the only one healthy right now"
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Royster looked like he was ginger the entire game yesterday. Helu has two sore achilles tendons, and Hightower is coming back from an ACL.

I do like what we could potentially have.

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59. "what happened to Ryan Torain?"
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surely hes better than Royster, isnt he?

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61. "not how Royster looked at the end of last year"
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that's more than Torain has shown at any point in DC

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243. "Royster looks like some shit, smutty"
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245. "And I was less hyped about him than a lot of people."
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He's a depth player.

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62. "Hightower cut. Rumor has it we're trading for Steve Slaton."
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specifically, the talk is we're trading WR Anthony Armstrong for Slaton.
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63. "why Shanny whyyyyyy?"
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Just go with the young RBs.

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64. "man I like Armstrong. He's a burner too. Hmph."
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67. "except for Morris, all the RB's are a little banged up. "
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Guess he wanted someone experienced and healthy in the mix just in case.

but nothing is final yet.

Besides, you can argue that while he was the best blocker, he didn't ahve the best vision out of that group in term of seeing openings.
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69. "You know though...I probably woulda kept him just for extra insurance"
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for RG3. I still don't trust that line. They need all the help they can get.

  

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71. "I would've also provided he was healthy"
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I'm sure they wanted to keep him too. He's probably just too banged up less than a year removed from tearing an ACL. He'll land somewhere in due time.

  

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65. "Damn. I liked Hightower too"
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68. "bad secondary gets worse: tanard jackson suspended for a year."
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http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/42617/tanard-jackson-disappointing-not-surprising

this defense is gonna live and die on the pass rush. did orakpo learn any new tricks?

  

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70. "There's things this team does that I just don't understand "
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Like already being sensitive to drug-related suspensions, then knowingly signing a safety who is up against his third drug suspension strike

  

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72. "they try to cut corners sometimes"
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pun not intended.

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76. "heh"
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74. "http://img2.moonbuggy.org/imgstore/crying-indian.gif"
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75. "he weeps for frail Vick."
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77. "Looking good week 1"
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in spite of our secondary.

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78. "DeJon Gomes."
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Better than Merriweather.

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79. "Whatever happened to Chris Horton....???"
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he was supposed to be the next thing...
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80. "the clock struck midnight his 2nd season"
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81. "My Observations Against the Saints"
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- Griff looked great, he looked poised, he looked ready. He took way too many shots for my liking, but he's a man and he's ready to do what's necessary to lead this team. I saw him get a first down and slide immediately. he understand his importance to this team and franchise. I'm a really big fan of this kid.

- I can't say this enough, Kyle Shannahan and Pops came in with a great game plan and called the game to Griff's strengths. That bodes well goinh forward. The first series of all screens was a great tempo maker. I loved the zone reads they're running. I will say to get rid of the straight option though. you're going to get the kid killed. but really great game Kyle (ya'll know how much that hurt me to type)

- The wr's did a great job. Obviously Garcon, but that's why he's getting paid, i'm talking Aldrick Robinson, and Santanna accepting a reduced role. Guys getting opportunities and making the most of it. With this group I think we'll be ok, if they can grow with Griff I think we can get some good production.

- Offensive line did their jobs, not great, but not poor didnt' let Griff get killed I'll take it.

- Defensive Front 7 was good, stayed in Brees face all day, didn't allow him to get comfortable at all. He was only able to set his feet a few times consistently. That's the mark of a line getting some really good push. Jarvis Jenkins is going to make a difference this year. Kerripo put pressure on from the ends all day. I like it.

- The DB's did a MUCH better job than most will want to give them credit for. They played a great game of man to man and stayed with the saints receivers all day, even the TD that Jimmy Graham had, London was in great positon with safety help over the top that just missed knocking the ball away. I'll take it. Madieu isn't great, but he did alright, Josh Wilson was balling, his man to man was great. Cedrick Griffin came in and played well. its only one week, but for one week i'll take it.

- I hope next week we don't get a let down like we've done the past 2 times we've played the rams. I need that defense to be Sam Bradford's face ALL day, and fuck him up. I want Griff moving the pocket and staying poise. After such a huge debut I worry that Griff will have a deflating 2nd showig, but hope that doesn't happen.

I want that game to thoroughly uninteresting by 5:15 and the skins to mash the Rams out in their own dome.

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82. "Agree on all points"
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just worried about Stephen Jackson extending drives on us.
Since we're built for pass rush and not stopping the run.

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84. "Yea he tends to get loose on us"
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But I think this is where London and perry Riley are going to have to stay within the scheme because he can cut back and its off to the races. They're going to have to play disciplined and hope the O gives them a 14 point lead so they have to abandon the run.

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83. "the play of the game was not the Garcon touchdown"
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it was the play where RGIII rolled out the left, evaded the sack, and threw across the field to Fred Davis on the sideline in double coverage in the tightest of windows.

It was a very surreal moment for me, witnessing that play. It was like coming up for air after holding your breath under water for a long time. Keep in mind I'm young enough to say I don't really remember the last Super Bowl. As far as I've ever known they've just been a really bad team. But THAT play was when it all clicked for me - "Ok we're not winning the Super Bowl this year. But THAT guy is on THIS team, MY TEAM, for the next 12 years."

  

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85. "I forget that young folks have never enjoyed what some of the older"
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Fans got to enjoy during the 80's.

I mean obviously its only been one game, but from what we've seen in 1 week he's got the makings a realyl good qb for years to come and that's much more than we could've said at any moment in the last 12-15 years.

RG is the dude

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88. "not to mention he had a man open in the flat too"
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>it was the play where RGIII rolled out the left, evaded the
>sack, and threw across the field to Fred Davis on the sideline
>in double coverage in the tightest of windows.
>
>It was a very surreal moment for me, witnessing that play. It
>was like coming up for air after holding your breath under
>water for a long time. Keep in mind I'm young enough to say I
>don't really remember the last Super Bowl. As far as I've ever
>known they've just been a really bad team. But THAT play was
>when it all clicked for me - "Ok we're not winning the Super
>Bowl this year. But THAT guy is on THIS team, MY TEAM, for the
>next 12 years."
>
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86. "the front 7 was wrecking the Saints."
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Just wrecking.

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87. "They never allowed Drew to set his feet"
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It was really nice to see that push right up the middle.

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89. "My Week 1 play of the game:"
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the blocking on the Aldrick Robinson touchdown.

Saints brought 6, Skins had 6 in to block.

Everyone took their man 1-on-1, including Roy Helu.

That created the touchdown.

Also huge shout out to the special teams (except the guy who gave up the TD).

4 for 4 on FGs. CUNDIFF WHAT?

Keeping Darren Sproles inside the 20 yard line all game.

The rugby punt on the botched snap (even though there was a penalty)

And of course the long snapper who played the game with a broken fucking arm.

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90. "Little things that didn't happen a year ago"
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Little things that win games.

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91. "HAIL!"
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I really liked holding the Saints to a three and out on their first possession. D.Gomes impressed, M.Williams looked overmatched and slow. hoping for at least one blow out this season, this team makes me too damn nervous with a lead. With Rex the last few years I just knew he'd find a way to lose close games but now if we can get the offense to run like this consistently, I have a uneasy feeling about the back end of our D putting away games.

  

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92. "the secondary is definitely the weak link"
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but Wilson/Hall aren't the worst CB duo in the league.

If the front 7 plays like it did Sunday (against a great OL), there's hope for the defense.

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93. "I agree, our secondary is our weak link"
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But if our unit as a whole is working then we'll be ok, but if we get caught up in quick passes and pass rush doesn't get to the qb against a mobile qb with his eyes up the field and we're in trouble.

We might have 4 tough games against Romo and Eli, add a 5th when you throw in Flacco. That back stretch is looking really difficult

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94. "Roethlisberger on the road, Ryan/Flacco at home, Romo 2x, Eli 2x"
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so yea, you're getting some of the best QBs.

  

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95. "Right, those are all very difficult games for us"
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Throw in Vick, although you're not realy sure which Vick will show up. The good Vick from 2 seasons ago, or the bad vick from last week.

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96. "Bob on the cover of SI..."
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And so it begins...
http://i46.tinypic.com/30i9ulc.png

Can this dude's career skyrocket any more than it already has? This is really amazing.

And I'm loving it, by the way.

Not a fan of a lot of the "hype" as I like when the Sk*ns fly under the radar a bit, but Griffin makes it hard to be under the radar. I got a feeling that we are just going to have to get used to being put out there like that.

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97. "though it isn't about him, I like "the boy they couldn't kill" above him"
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99. " "the boy they couldn't kill" quote"
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I saw that after I posted and was like, wtf?!?

Also, just stating the fact that the Sk*ns are on the cover of SI, week 1, with our man (who else, really) in the spotlight. Don't know what the story is about, though I will be picking up an issue to check it out. First time in a long time!


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98. "This dude seems to be the complete package"
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On the field, off the field. I have to pinch myself to see if it's true. The 'skins have one of "those" players. The players we look at other organizations and say, "how do we get one of those?"

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100. "NFC Offensive Player of the Week..."
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Man, Sunday can't come soon enough!

DVR'ed NFL Replay of the game. Gonna check that out tonight to get my fix.

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101. "My Thoughts on Week 2 vs the Rams"
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- I'm not sure what Haslett saw on tape that he decided he was gonna go zone, because Danny Amendola had a career day with 15 catches for like 150 yards. Sam Bradford was getting the ball out in 2.5 seconds basically eliminating all talk of our pass rush. Did Orakpo being hurt, really hurt our defensive scheme that much? We looked completely overmatched and outschemed, like Fisher watched our tape and basically had our entire gameplan ready to roll. In the years past we've always complained that if our O could score just 24 points a game we'd be straight, well we're averaging 34 a game and lost to a team that we shouldn't have lost to. Haslett better watch out, with the front 7 he's been given if he doesn't perform this year, they might call Radio and replace his ass.

- Can we acknowledge that for all of his short comings DeAngelo Hall has been playing some good ball. He's been tackling MUCH better, and his slot coverage has been quite decent. I know he's a whipping boy around here, but Hall has been playing some good ball through 2 weeks.

- Run game was good on the edges, until St. Louis adjusted which is what we used against them on the playaction. I think Morris is the best choice we have and like what he's given us in burst, in strength and one cut. Helu and Royster really have lost their job at this point. Morris by far the best runner on the squad right now.

- The offensive scheme was decent, the playcalling wasn't as consistent as I would've liked but for the most part Kyle did another really good job of calling the game. In game adjustments to stop the Rams from just coming after RG, the run game to the edges, and finding ways to get Fred the ball in the middle of the field. I'm actually quite pleased with Kyle. They were literally one perfectly placed pass to Aldrick Robinson drop away from winning the game.

- I know that everyone is going to point at Josh Morgan for his bone headed ass move throwing the ball at Courtland Finnegan, but honestly he fucked up before the throwing the ball at Finnegan. Morgan had the first down when he caught the ball, but as he does REGULARLY goes back downfield to try and come back upfield. He has to know his down and distance and game situation. He didn't so he fucked around and lost the first down and then the rest is history.

- RGIII had a really good game. I'm incredibly pleased with his poise and decision making. He had some bad throws, he had 1 pick that Courtland Finnegan one handed going the opposite direction, the other 3 that were dropped were much easier and probably worse throws. This was the first time I saw him a bit rattled in the pocket, but he did well when it counted. His long passes were REALLY accurate which was a point for concern in the preseason. Through two games he's a really good qb and I look forward to watching him for years to come.

- Young Danny Smith better be on watch, because two punts blocked in two weeks, that's completely inexcusable. Teams are going to be coming at Sav ALL year, so unless Danny got that good fake set to cook he's about to be done. Plus he's going to get one of the best punters in the league hurt. I saw the twist the Rams ran yesterday and it was good. So unless Danny fitting to run that college 5 men in front of the punter then he better get his shit tighter.

- Oh and Hankerson almost dropped that perfectly thrown ball from RG

- If Haslett and them think that this defense will work against Dalton nd AJ Green they are about to get toasted for 2 hunnid and 3 tds next week.

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102. "I want a "Haslett Fired as DC, Morris Hired" headline this week."
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103. "I don't think you'd be alone in that"
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I also think that its' tough when Madieu Williams is starting for you at any position. Plain and simple.

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110. "which is exactly why we should do it"
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get raheem's system in now and we'll be ready for when we get carrakpo back next season.

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114. "We're not set for his system and at this point it'd be silly to change"
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We speak in absolutes because we're not actually making any decisions and using our money but if Haslett can't get it done then we're going to have to get someone who truly understands the 3-4 and how to run it with our personnel.

Radio is all about that cover 2, so that's a completely different scheme he'd have to learn to coach, and be able to coach in situational football. That's the only thing that worries about the possibility.

At this point though, Haslett has given up an average of 34 points a game soooo.. somethings gotta give.

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117. "here's what i'm saying, it's a wrap for us defensively"
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may as well make the move to a 4-3 cover 2 now, as opposed to riding this shit out, firing haslett, and starting in the offseason with raheem.

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119. "Sorry fam, we drafted, and we made moves in free agency for this D"
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We're tied to it for about the next 5 at least

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105. "that game was chippy/dirty as hell"
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On one hand, it may be extremely enjoyable, because I was getting into the game very intensely.

On the other hand, it was infuriating, b/c the rams are a dirty-ass team

  

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106. "The game was dirty, it was way over the line a lot of times"
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The refs lost control and it played out taht way all game long.

They're now saying that Fred Davis might have a concussion on a not called helmet to helmet hit.

Fuck them replacements refs

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109. "I am so glad I get to read your posts whenever I miss the game...."
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Cause getting caught up is so hard.. Especially when you don't have access to certain sites and you are dependent on military cable. Ugh!

  

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115. "Thanks man, i'm glad someone reads those long ass posts"
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At least i'm not posting for nothing

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104. "Orakpo and Carriker are now done for the season"
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Rak tore something different in his left pectoral, and Carriker tore his quad.

Each is finished for the season.

Fuck man

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107. "that is a real blower"
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it was all good just a week ago ~

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108. "Wow...we're gonna get killed on D....."
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This is terrible.

  

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111. "BG gonna have to score 1983 regular season level points"
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118. "WHOA."
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112. "here's what's weird:"
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I wouldn't have ever thought this defense would lose us games. But clearly they're going to. They lost the game for us yesterday and with the depleted talent and Haslett calling the shots they're going to lose some more.

Conversely I also presumed that Bob would lose us games and would not be the sole reason for us winning any. Instead that's going to be anything but the case. Whatever games we win this year will be, almost solely, because of him. I can say with confidence that he's probably the best football player on the team already.

You can't score 28 and still lose. You've got serious serious problems on defense if you score 28 and lose, to Sam Bradford and Danny Amendola no less.

  

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113. "If RG3 can stay healthy"
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116. "I know what you're saying and for the most part I agree"
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I just think its been two games, and he played a little bit less great than the first game, as the season wears on teams are going to amass more tape and more creative ways to stop him, so we'll see how many games he wins in the back half of our schedule.

Look at our schedule after Mid October, that shit should be illegal!

You right through the first two games the Defense has been the weak spot.

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120. "I didn't see the game, but I would like to point you toward post 101"
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The last point in that response.

Well guess what happened, Dalton Threw for 300 hunnid, and 3 Tds, AJ green ALMOST went for 2 hunnid.

I'm just gonna let that marinate, I called that shit last week.

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121. "Team Prez Shanahan fucked up the defense from day 1"
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Rebuilt a good defense for no reason.

Spent a first round and second round pick and this is the defense he's built so far.

Haslett is, was and will always be mediocre.

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122. "Yea I think we went over this when they switched to the 3-4"
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He took a unit that was very respectable and kept a bad to mediocre offense in games every week to a Defense that is giving up like 39 points a game. When you're averaging 33 points a game you shouldn't be 1-2. But I guess if you're bad then that's what happens.

Griff is out there doing EVERYTHING he can to win for this team and no one on the D is stepping up. I know I know, Carriker, and Rak are gone I get it, but remember folks done already started that "Kerrigan better anyway". Yea we're seeing now that Rak's presence allowed Kerrigan one on one's that he could beat, but now that he's the man he's not as effective, and I think we all thought Jarvis Jenkins would be gving us more at this point.

All in all, they are team that lose on Wednesday not just on sunday, they lose in the film room, and by getting outschemed.

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124. "it's as much talent as it is scheme man."
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there really isn't even just one single player on the defense that is elite as his position on this unit. There just isn't. They're all very good (London, Kerrigan) to shouldn't be starting (the DBs. All of them.)

  

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125. "I feel you, but if you know your DB's are you weak point"
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You can't go zero coverage fam, that's a scheme issue.

There's never a time in a game when you're in the middle of the field where you should be zero coverage if your players aren't taht damn good. Instead they're in zero a number of times in the first half, so they're leaving AJ Green one on one with our corners. Who do you think is going to win that battle most of the time (9 catches for 180something and atouch)

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126. "you can tell when a big pass play is about to happen"
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because you can see 10 of our guys in the box and Wilson/DeAngelo in single coverage. That's pretty much what that first play was. It's like you can already know it's going to blow up.

  

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127. "Yea that's that Zero Coverage I was talking about, "
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They do that a lot on 3rd and medium to eliminate the ability of receivers to go long, because of the pressure.

Problem is they're not gettgin there and leaving kats one on one for too long.

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144. "Weren't they doing this last season?"
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I recall seeing a few games with them doing that. It worked pretty ok then. But I guess teams have figured that out..Or is the secondary really that much worse?

I've watched a few NFL Replay games and yeah the Skins don't seem to be getting the same amount of pressure like last season.

  

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145. "Yea they ran it last season"
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In the Cowboys game where D.Hall was one on one with Dez playing inside leverage with no help and got beat to the inside!

Losing Orakpo and Carriker absolutely hurt our pressure up front, but young we don't have the horses on the outside right now.

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123. "posted Thursday, August 9th:"
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"What I Hate:
I hate our secondary. We had a terrible corps of CBs and safeties to begin with, then we let Landry and OJ Atogwe walk. Still got the ultimate hustle player in Reed Doughty doe! These guys, anchored by the increasingly more delusional DeAngelo Hall, are a mess and I am not excited about watching this unit all year. This unit is the baby shits."

  

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128. "They need to stop this Madden-esque offense. "
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Like okay, we know you have a new toy that you want to play with (RGIII), but these designed runs and options are gonna get him killed.

I'm I'm the opposing DC, I tell my guys to not even pay attention to the pitch on the option plays. Just hit RGIII. He's 75% of the Skins offense. The more hits on him, the better. He's still a rookie. I don't care if the option back has 15yds of real estate in front of him. You get a chance to hit RGIII with momentum, you do it.

Have the boy drop back, and start investing some plays in Hankerson and Robinson deep. You don't have Garcon, and no telling when you will, but that's no excuse for this conservative playcalling. Davis hasn't had his number called enough in the first three games either.

He's a proven receiving threat, so use him. It's time for KS to make everyone else step up and stop pushing RGIII to the limits until he's ragdolled early in the season.
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129. "at the most critical moment yesterday, Davis ran offsides"
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I think he's an airhead. He's proven he can play, but he's proven just as much if not more that his focus is an issue.

  

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130. "As Doc Walker said about RGIII"
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"He throws the ball better than he can run it...so throw it!"

That would be conventional wisdom however our line is terrible. We replaced Trent Williams with a LT that looked to be the size of a TE. AND HE WAS RETIRED LAST YEAR!!!

The one thing I don't understand from yesterday is why they never rolled the pocket.


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133. "I feel you, The Coaching staff has to save him from himself"
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Its a read option so he ALWAYS has the option to let Morris get the ball but he keeps it because he's a competitor and he's one of those dudes that just believe his team has a better chance to win if he has the ball.

So they need to start rolling the pocket and not allow him to get hit so damn much. I mean damn that kid is getting killed out here.

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134. "the triple option needs to go like NOW"
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135. "They have to find a way to protect their Franchise"
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I know they're enjoying scoring the most points in the league, btu that don't mean shit when you're also giving up the most points in the league.

Time to switch that gameplan up.

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139. "We the highest scoring team in the league tho...."
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141. "So was Joe Gibbs his first 5 games he went 0-5 "
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then he changed and they started winning so points aren't everything. I get what you're saying, but we can't continue to score points if our qb won't make it to week 8.

Gotta find a way to be effective and still score points.

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266. "Should I be eating my words here now, 9 games later????????"
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131. "the thing is...the scehedule doesnt get any easier"
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im already chalking this year up to preserve my sanity but i always hope to be surprised

shanny needs to stay but i wouldnt care if haslett was fired right now

ill also say that watching RGIII play makes losing easier to accept at this point, i mean when's the last time a Skins team avg'd over 30 pts over 3 games?

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132. "ALSO fuck mara for takin our $$"
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in the goat ass (c) claw

we'd have more pieces if it wasnt for his bullshit

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136. "The latest is that we reached an agreement with Ryan Grant"
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Oft injured castoff from Greenbay.

Damn was Hightower that injured that after week 3 he still can't get a look. I mean hell they haven't even brought Cooley back like folks thought they would. Helu and Royster are both hurt and at this point should just be shut down for the next 2 weeks as they've been hurt since week 1 of pre-season.

So now Morris and Grant will be running the rock.

What say ya'll?

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137. "Helu has been placed on IR"
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138. "Had high hopes for Helu, but Grant is a solid signing."
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I like Royster as the #2 in this scenario when healthy.

Always prioritize the young guys.

  

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142. "Royster been hurt since preseason we'll see if he can get healthy"
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If not then Grant is going to get those carries.

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140. "Cooley"
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He has told the 'Skins and every other team that has expressed interest that he only wants to be there if he's the starter. That's why he hasn't signed with anybody to date.


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143. "Well unless some injuries occur he's gonna be retired"
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146. "My Observations Week 4 Against Tampa Bay"
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- I'm really starting to like the relationship between RG and Kyle. They're adjusting to what teams are givign them, as well as adjusting to protecting their qb. The Bucs were looking for that option all afternoon, but they only ran it maybe once or twice. The other times Alfred morris was in the hole and gone. Allowing Morris to get going and taking the pressure off of Griff was a great job by the Offensive line and helped to lay the groundwork. Getting away from the ground game in the 2nd half was not a great call.

- The defense was a tale of two halves. The first, skins getting pressure up front and collapsing the pocket with Josh Freeman getting skiddish and forcing some bad throws. Second half though, all freeman and the bucs. He found his big boy pants and started threading that ball all over the field. Please believe that even if we get to Matt Ryan it won't stop that passing attack. We better be prepared to lose by a lot.

- Not a lot of individual great games, Kerrigan has another solid game,London was doing well. I liked their ability to stop the run for the most part. It only got a little dicey towards the end when both teams knew what was coming. I must say after a few mental errors and bad kicks this is a win that I enjoy because I don't know that in anytime int he past 4 years could we have driven down the field in 1 minute 40 something seconds to put yourself in a position to win. This is better, we're not a good team yet but we're better.

- Our corners got caught sleeping on some go routes, but the Vincent Jackson one, where the hell was the safety? I haven't seen the pre-snap so I couldn't tell what they were in, btu if they were deep corners then yea there's no help and an incredibly well timed call. If they were bringing pressure and we just got caught, also a great call and even better read by Josh Freeman. I must say I like what Josh Wilson brings, he's not afraid, he has a short memory and for the most part plays good technique on the outside when matched up one on one against bigger guys (since everyone is bigger than him). I've said this before, but folks are missing that D. Hall is playing quite well out there. I'm not sure if its the calls this year or just maybe he recommitted himself to playing better defense, but even on plays he's getting beat on, he's there. The Post route to Vincent Jackson, if Madieu Williams is in better position and reading his keys on the outside Freeman doesn't have that lane to throw in. As a corner you're not going to stop every throw so being in position i do give credit for. D. Hall has been playing some ball. I mean even on the long pass to Jackson he got burnt, but he closed the gap and almost made a play on the ball. Those guys on the outside are playing some ball, its the reserves that are really getting eaten alive inthe middle of the field. When we have to blitz to get any type of pressure it's just making life too difficult for kids who weren't even supposed to see the field, let alone be the nickel. As horrible as they've been i get it, it frustrates the shit out fo me, but I get it.

- Keep feeding Alfred Morris, if you see him give him the ball. Plain and simple, he is a natural zone runner because of his excellent vision and ability to make that cut (put his heel in the dirt) and go. Keep feeding him, and let him and Griff grow up together. I'm quite happy with that gem of a find. He's getting more and more accustomed to the speed of the NFL game. You can tell because his cuts are more decisive and his shakes in the open field are better. I really like what he's been giving us.

- Griff had another solid game. I can't say enough about this kid. He's a leader, he's tough as nails. No disrespect to Michael Vick but i've seen Griff take shots that Vick just doesn't get up from. I want to limit those shots, this week he took less than last week, but still he took a few. The ones at the end of the game especially on that last drive are fine with me because that's winning time and you're already dealing with a shakey kicker, you've got to get as many yards as possible. I'm perfectly fine with that. He doesn't turn the ball over and once he sniffs the endzone he's going hard. Again he doesn't turn the ball over, and for a team with such small margin for error this is imperative.

- Unsung players of the Game. Darrel Young, Fred Davis (Fred was so open on one of those late game catches that he had to stop and be like where is everyone then started running) I know Santanna doesn't get a lot of shine but he comes in and gives you exactly what you need. Crossing route from the slot make a person miss and get to the sticks. I'm glad he's still here.

- Billy Cundiff almost walked home dog.

- All in all this was almost a terrible loss, but a good win. Prepare for a blowout at home next week as Matt Ryan has been on a tear and even Michael Turner has been churning out yards like its no one's business. We ain't got no defense.

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147. "Can Kyle burn the "triple option play" page from his book?"
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PLEASE.

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148. "As Griff learns more and mroe of the offense it enables them to"
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put that portion away entirely, i think they had it at first just to have plays that he's comfortable with.

Griff has to learn to let that ball go though, he's holding onto it for dear life.

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152. "Honestly I don't think it's about him learning"
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I think it has more to do with their limitations on the o-line. I pray this is address next draft.


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154. "I don't think the line has that much to do with it"
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Now granted they're a weak point, but outside of the game where Trent got hurt have done a fairly good job of opening holes for Morris and nt allowing Griff to get hit when he's standing in the pocket, now outside of the pocket is a different story all together.

They most certainly will have to address that line though.

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156. "That's the thing that puzzles me about the line..."
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Shanahan's schemes allow for success with the running game (take a look at Helu/Royster last year and Morris this year), but pass protection, I guess, is a different animal?

Shanahan likes a particular type of lineman (quick and on the lighter side), to run his zone block system, but is that a flaw, when it comes to pass pro? And is that why the rolling pocket a big part of his offense, because the smaller quicker linemen can't sustain standard drop-backs?

Also, I assume this is where quality/talent comes to play, so I'm definitely looking forward to them addressing the line in the near future.

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157. "If they got a decent RT we could get by with our G-C-G"
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But with a black hole at RT, it weakens the whole unit.

We need a RT and some better back ups. That's where better drafting from Shanahan would really help.

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149. "Next week: At least let it be a shoot-out loss..."
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Right after the game, during the after-glow of a nice "come-from behind win" (sh!t, I was thinking of it during the game), all I could think about is how in the hell are we gonna stop that Atlanta offense, with those two big/fast receivers?!?!

The key HAS to be pressure, and focus on our running game, and keep their offense off the field.

We'll see, like I said above at least we can start looking at shoot-outs now, instead of blow-outs.

We can have a puncher's chance.

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150. "we need like a 30 point head start"
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or better yet score on every drive and go for 2 every time

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151. "I think we have a chance, btu we don't really have the horses"
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Sometimes you're outmatched, like they might start fast, btu I don't think they could finish against a team liek Atlanta unless Matty has an off day and we get a few picks, Turner fumbles and we get points off of it.

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153. "there's a way to beat this Falcons team; run, run, and run."
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Atlanta is terrible against the run and unforgiving on offense. So let's run. We run well, and the better we run against this group the less time they spend with the ball in their hands. It's really the only way I see us standing a chance. Lord knows we're in for a long day if we come in with any other gameplan than that.

  

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155. "The Shanahans have to come up with a masterpiece gameplan..."
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...with NO mistakes.

We'll see. Either way, it's gonna be fun to watch!


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158. "Really glad they didn't try to put him back in."
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Should be a mild concussion. The biggest risk is getting hit a second time right after getting a concussion.

WAY safer long-term to bench him.

If he doesn't get hurt, there's a fair chance the Skins take this game, but it didn't happen that way.

Defense surprised me. Tony Gonzalez ate up yardage, but that's not a bad way to play an offense as good as the Falcons: 8-12 yard passes at a time. No huge plays.

Julio Jones is a beast, even when the defense plays him well.

Don't know what else to say about Alfred Morris. Kid can run and hit.

I like Kirk Cousins as a back up. Strong arm. Needs experience. I'd rather develop him as a second stringer than give playing time to Rex fucking Grossman.

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159. "Why can't they figure out kicking situation?"
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Never thought I'd be wishing Gano was still around.


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160. "what a fucking shitshow"
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I thought Cundiff was the solution

Those Ravens fans were right.

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161. "and why did they let suisham go again?"
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162. "As I recall, he kinda sucked for us."
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167. "Yeah, he was really bad. I was shocked when he got picked up"
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169. "why does EVERY kicker suck for us?"
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i watch a steelers game, and i dont get the feeling he's going into a 40 yd FG 50/50.
wtf is dannyboy smith doing to these guys?

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172. "yeah, somethings not right"
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>i watch a steelers game, and i dont get the feeling he's
>going into a 40 yd FG 50/50.
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163. "I'd cut him for the post-game comment alone:"
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"You look at the final score and obviously, even if I would've made that field goal we still would've needed 4 more points"

Oh word? Here's some math: add your gear to a bag and subtract yourself from our locker room you shit head.

  

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164. "haha"
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165. "correct"
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168. "What an idiot"
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Not true! The game plan for a team can change from 10 - 0 to 7 - 0. Now, add to the fact you miss a kick and now the field position game has changed too. It's not just the points, it's the change and momentum and mentality.

Also, you cannot leave points on the field against a team that is better than you! PERIOD.


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171. "Holeee sheeeiiittt!"
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You gotdamn fucking right for that response man. Pack your shit and go.

  

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166. "For the year Cundiff is 58.3%by far the worst in the league"
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Last year Graham Gano kicked at 75.6% which was the 2nd lowest in the league to Shuan Suisham 74.5% (Billy Cundiff kicked at 75.7%)

2010 Gano kicked at 68.6% by far the worst percentage in the league.

2009 Suisham lowest rate in league.

I'm starting to think its the coaches here and not just the kickers.

RG couldn't go back in once he was diagnosed, but great that they actually diagnosed him instead of hiding it like i know that Teams that need their qb as much as we do, have in the past. So that's good.

Honestly I think they had a great gameplan and morris rushing for over 100, and basically holding things up until RG got hurt. Dude they're recognizing that trying to outscore teams won't win many games. It'll keep us really close, but controlling the clock and runnign the ball will win us games.

I'm not mad, i'm disappointed that they lost, but honestly I think they took a big step yesterday. They made a calculated risk in allowing Tony G one on one in the middle of the field and until the end of the game that worked incredibly well.

I think this team will be a surprise next year.

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170. "four years into a rebuild *(dramatic pause)* is not a surprise"
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173. "We've been the worst kicking team in the league for like 5 years"
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Before Shannahan got here, this goes back to Zorn. If I go through the stats it's probably even worse than that.

So my finger is pointed squarely at Danny Smith on this one.

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174. "apparently danny smith has not had input on picking ST players"
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this goes back awhile.

also he may have preferred gano (per the sports junkies. FWIW, Lurch is apparently is close to Smith).

anyway, this is what happens when you pick up a guy that was cut by a better team. obviously the ravens knew what they were doing. the same thing happens when we pick up eagles players.

  

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175. "Then they've got to do something, "
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14 kickers in 14 years

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176. "Welp bye Billy, welcome Kai Forbath"
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The skins cut Cundiff, and brought in a kid who's never kicked in the NFL before.

So we may be saying good bye to the touchback everytime, but we may actually get fgs to go through the up rights.

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177. "Pro: lou groza award winner. Con: so was graham gano"
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they should pay someone $100K for a year just to identify kicker #16.

  

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178. "Good. How about they get one right some time?"
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179. "My Thoughts before we face the Giants"
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- I know we love our Qb but lets temper some of this talk, the dude is in his 6th game. He's not exactly lighting the world on fire passing. He's efficient and not turning the ball over much. These are incredible things to talk about and I love that he's mindful of it. Lets not put him on the Mount rushmore of qb's just yet. Exciting player and really fun to watch, great leader and has a future as bright as any qb that's played in the last 5-10 years. Lets remember we're still 29th in the league with 54% 3rd down conversion rate. That's not good folks and that's why we're a 500 team.

- Our Defense is still not good, we're masking with changing schemes almost on every snap, different groupings and lots of smoke and mirrors. It's worked quite effectively. I mean it really has no choice, since we're not getting Rak and Car back for the rest of the season. I was really upset with the schemes they were running at the start of the season, but Haslett and Co are calling great in game defensive adjustments. Allowing the Vikes to run up and down the field but not score Td's was the real hero of the game. Griff did his thing, but that defense stopped them 3 times in a row early in the game that might've turned it to a blowout. 21-0 is REALLY different than 9-0. That's a nod to Has and the D.

- While we talking about D. We must acknowledge the work of Lorenzo Alexander. Who's been our ST captain and swiss army knife. This dude played his best game in maybe 5 years. Still a special team stalwart, but 3 tackles behind the line, a sack and some great run support. Alongside Fletch, and Perry Zo got loose and I'm glad that we have such a player on our team. Those are the players that allow you to win games you're not supposed to be in. The roster isn't there yet, but it's taking a turn in the right direction.

- I said it earlier and I say it again, I'm so glad we still have Moss. His intermediate and short routes from the Slot are a thing of beauty. He's been working hard and its been rubbing off on the other receivers. He's been doing work and its showing. Even without our best player (Garcon) they're still productive.

- Speaking of our receivers the thing that i've loved this season is our receivers downfield blocking. Josh morgan was a goat a few weeks ago, but if anyone is paying attention they'll see these dudes are working hard downfield and playing hard on the edges. This is a team of workers and character, they may not win a lot of games this season, but they're building a great foundation to go forward with.

- I honestly don't think we'll beat the Giants as Eli is playing at a great level and they're running the ball incredibly well which isnt' something that we're stopping very well. We're doing a decent job upfront, but if a team is committed to running they'll run on us. Most teams think we're so weak in pass defense they just abandon the run.

- Keep Feeding Alfred Morris, he'll keep that G-men front from trying to blast Griff out of his socks, which of course they're going to be doing. Gotta establish a run, and if we do then those called runs can do work on long down and distance. We have a shot, but I don't think we'll be able to stop Eli or bring enough pressure to really get him off of his game.

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180. "http://whodatdish.com/files/2012/01/raheem-morris1.jpg"
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181. "4 weeks later and Haslett still needs to be fired"
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"Haslett is, was and will always be mediocre."

-me, 4 weeks ago, also me, when he was hired

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183. "agreed"
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skins need not fuck around, cut him now ~ this is what a team
that desperately wants to win would do.


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184. "^"
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185. "and still, both Robert Griffin and Bryce Harper play in the same city. "
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186. "Sounds like Cooley is coming back"
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Doc Walker was on the radio this morning and he is NOT in favor of the move. He pointed to the guys playing that position now are doing the job and we have other needs. He even mentioned we have some dudes on the practice squad that give us depth.

He said, "Not sure why we're signing guys who are folk heroes and ignoring what people are doing in front of us right now."




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187. "So i've been watching this play more and more"
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It ain't on Haz. Madieu fucked up, he should've been in a backpedal off the snap instead he came up started to flare toward the out route and stopped his feet.

Meanwhile Victor Cruz is BLOWING on a 9 route. He's playing off of tendencies instead of reading the play.

Jordan Pugh did what he was supposed to do and backed up so he was over top of Hakeem Nicks, meanwhile Madieu looking stuck watching 80 Salsa all the way into the endzone.

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188. "the stupidity is almost impossible to grasp."
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1:30 left. Team down by more than a FG. And you jump the out route?

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189. "1:13, seriously you're the deep safety"
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Your ONLY responsibility is not allow anyone to get behind you. Fuck the out route, that's in front of you, but nothing behind you.

What he do? Let him get behind him.

Also can we talk about the fact that NO ONE has admitted that they fucked up?

These bitchasses had the nerve to say "We double covered him, he just beat us" MUTHAFUCKA WHAT!!!!!

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190. "obviously safety is a huge need"
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but what really concerns me is that the team doesn't seem to have much of a short term plan to try to minimize the damage.

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192. "We're still paying dearly for the losses of Ryan Clark and Sean Taylor"
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193. "i am pleased with the effort (c) Shanny"
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Otagwe didnt work out and we wisely let landry walk. given the $18Mx2 cap hit, rolling the dice on merriweather, jackson and williams, plus bringing in Morris seems like a decent plan for 2012.

They've made strides in so many areas, i am willing to be patient. If in year 3 A.D. (after donovan) they still cant figure this out, then i'd be disappointed with the plan or lack thereof.



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194. "it was an ok plan in August but it's almost November."
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The guy with drug problems has been suspended for drugs, and Merriweather hasn't been healthy.

But even signings aside, the game plans don't seem to be trying to protect the weak safeties.

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195. "it was damned if you do damned if you dont"
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if haslett calls for williams to play off the line and cruz turns that into a slant/post, we still get burned and people complain about prevent defense not being a valid strategy.

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196. "But that allows you ANOTHER PLAY"
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You don't give a shit if someone catches a ball 15 yards off the line. You tackle them, 30 seconds off the clock.

instead them bammas got 1 play and the game is over.

Don't mind me, i'm still mad.

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202. "haslett's been playing madden!"
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let the team score quickly and give your offense a chance. by the end of the game even giants fans thought it was possible for rg3 to score again.

i get what you are saying. its just that the dbs suck. that is all there is to it. and while i get the fire haslett crowd, the defensive turnovers that we are causing are evidence that the scheme is working to a degree. we need better players.



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208. "I agree, we're outgunned on the Defensive side of the ball"
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Plain and simple, We gambled on Tanard Jackson and got burned. Then Merriweather hasn't played yet.

We're just outgunned, outside of a few timely bad calls, The schemes the last couple of weeks haven't been terrible. We just don't have the horses to compete.

I see us taking a corner or a safety next year.

Or at least HOPE they do.

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205. "nah as long as you keep him in front of you"
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you live to play another down

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191. "What kills me even more is"
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I hear people trying to pin this more on Morris than Haslett. It's like this dude is made of Teflon.


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197. "He's the DB coach, but he doesn't make any calls"
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That's on Haslett.

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198. "Letting Landry go was a huge mistake"
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especially since we lack depth

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199. "was it? "
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He couldn't tackle, couldn't cover, couldn't stay healthy, couldn't take criticism from coaches regarding technique, couldn't stop lifting weights that actually deterred him from being more agile, couldn't help from celebrating after an opponent's 15 yard gain, couldn't stop being an embarrassing fuckin bamma

the loss is Carlos Rogers. That's the one that got away. Not that buster Laron Landry.

  

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200. "RE: was it? "
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>the loss is Carlos Rogers. That's the one that got away. Not
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207. "Truth....And he was slow..."
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A old ass Clinton Portis beat him in a foot race....

  

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201. "watching Landry give up touchdowns to Gronk"
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and dance around after giving up 6 yards on 2nd down made me think:

as bad as our safeties are, I just don't want that dude on my team.

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203. "as previously stated, no it wasnt. nm"
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204. "AND josh wilson gave him a free release off the line."
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the only thing that touched him on that play was the football.

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206. "Nicks was nicked up. Cruz was the ONLY deep threat on the field"
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two days later, it still hurts

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209. "More on "the play""
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Still hurts.

Basically the Redskins had already showed similar coverage earlier in the game, and this time Madieu Williams cheats up even further.

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210. "That doesn't make me feel any better"
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At all

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211. "My Thoughts on Skins vs Steelers"
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- The most alarming thing amongst all the drops, the penalties, and the loss was the lack of energy. The Steelers came out and were physical the entire game, only Alfred Morris, London, and Perry Riley matched their physicality. Everyone else folded. That's incredibly unsettling to see. To watch your team get absolutely pucnhed in the mouth and do nothing about it. Ryan clark took a shot at your qb and NO ONE took offense to go beat the snot outta the fool. I don't give a shit if its' a bad play call or what, this dude took a shot at your qb and you let it happen. Everyone sees it and will be acting accordingly.

- Not many will see this, but the corners were getting cut and manhandled all game. No one called it, as its Pittsburgh and the refs aren't going to make that call plain and simple. So you've got to find a way to either play through it or be physical back. The Steelers pride themselves on being phyical, so you know going in, its going to be a battle gotta find a way to get physical back. Deangelo was frustrated, he was tired of the way the wrs were playing and he reacted. Not well or within the confines of the game, but he reacted. No excuse but he did it to himself. He's been having a decent year, but his technique isnt' good enough to try and shut people down in the slot, so they moved him outside where he's getting toasted on in routes and he's getting older. His speed is failing him. Its pretty incredible to see a guy who used to be hailed and praised for his physical tools, now just get outrun. He can't keep up with those speedsters anymore, really no one on our roster can. Josh wilson included.

- RG can't do it alone, he's putting the ball in your hands you have to catch it. Hankerson was scared, i'll just say that. He looked scared across the middle, scared on the sidelines just plain old scared. I think this experiment may be ending soon for him. Josh Morgan, he's goin to have to step up. We paid you, brought you in and you're not giving me much of anything. Desmond Briscoe should've never gotten the chance to drop that touchdown, because if shit was going how it was supposed to, That would've been Morgan.

- RG & Alfred ya'll good in my book.

- Offensive line, they're going to have to develop a meanstreak
they're getting punked, and i'm tired of watching Griff pick himself up off the ground. TIRED of it.

- The blocked extra point what on Forbath, he kicked it low and it got blocked, He's been great on fgs though, so i'm ok with that.

- There are no easy games in this league so they're going to have to figure some shit out.

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212. "this was my main takeaway"
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>- The most alarming thing amongst all the drops, the
>penalties, and the loss was the lack of energy. The Steelers
>came out and were physical the entire game, only Alfred
>Morris, London, and Perry Riley matched their physicality.
>Everyone else folded. That's incredibly unsettling to see. To
>watch your team get absolutely pucnhed in the mouth and do
>nothing about it. Ryan clark took a shot at your qb and NO ONE
>took offense to go beat the snot outta the fool. I don't give
>a shit if its' a bad play call or what, this dude took a shot
>at your qb and you let it happen. Everyone sees it and will be
>acting accordingly.

Spot on. The Skins basically got bullied and backed down. It didn't seem like they were really up for it once they got socked in the mouth a few times. The team doesn't have that aura or swagger of a winning team (yet), and they just met one who imposed its will.

  

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214. "Dog we're punting on that down anyway SOMEONE should've"
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Blown Ryan Clark the fuck up. Send in a goon, i don't give a shit, but you're not going to be celebrating after trying to take my qb's head off.

FUCK THAT

Them bammas soft, granted I know they have like 8 starters not playing, but they got stole on and let it happen.

Cam about to get loose next week.

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213. "The state of the team is pretty obvious"
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RG3 almost literally couldn't be playing better as a rookie QB.

Morris, London, Trent, and a few other guys are huge players.

Everyone else needs to be replaced.

This team will struggle to go 8-8 until the defense, WRs and OL improve (in that order, IMO).

This is Shahanan's ship from top to bottom, so he needs to fix it.

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215. "I was having this conversation today about our lack of talent "
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And speed, neither of our starting corners can catch anyone.

We have a few foundation players, but for the most part we're outgunned at almost every position. I wouldn't mind them not getting to 8-8 (which isn't goign to happen by the way) we'll need that high 2nd round draft pick to start next year somewhere in our secondary as Deangelo won't be on the team.

We've got to get faster and we need to do it yesterday. I hope Griff can wait that long.

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216. "late round drafting and free agents have been shitty."
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Simply not good enough.

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217. "As i've said before Shanahan is not the man you want picking talent"
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He's bad at it. We're suffering mightily for that.

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218. "the "Football Man" that runs the entire show shit is over with"
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Holmgren, Reid, they're done. Shanahan blows. Belichick is an outlier, but otherwise your organization needs some checks and balances to make things truly work. I hate our roster save for about 5 guys. I really hate it.

  

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219. "He was fired for it in DEN"
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Shanahan's ceiling is putting together a .500 roster who struggles to win playoff games every few years.

It always mystified me why people thought things would be different in DC.

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220. "Rumblings I'm hearing that I don't like"
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1. I'm hearing more and more people complain about Raheem Morris; blaming him for the defensive woes. So again, I raise this questions: is Hasslet made of Teflon? I fear Morris will be the fall guy for the defense sucking.

2. It's no big secret that Washington fans love a good QB controversy; so it's been AWESOME that we finally have a QB to build the franchise around. However, with Shanahan announcing after the game yesterday it's time for "talent evaluations" the remainder of the season - he gave the fans that love a good QB controversy fodder for the fire.

I'm hearing people in the media saying, "Well if we're doing evaluations, we need to put in Cousins to see what we have." Really, really? I thought we put the Colt Brennan days behind us.

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221. "I haven't heard #1. I think people hate everything bout this team today."
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225. "Remember the excitement of a few weeks ago?"
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231. "in all seriousness, I could do without EVERYONE but Griffin"
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edit: I get how reactionary that is and I don't mean it. But really, Griffin, Morris, Trent Williams, Kerrigan. That's it.

  

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232. "take it easy, take it easy"
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222. "Josh Wilson kinda sucks"
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I had convinced myself he was our one decent DB.

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223. "a team full of bums"
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outside of about three players (and injured players), i could take or
leave the rest. and what's up with garcon and helu? didn't know their
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224. "Garcon's is a toe ligament"
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which is very painful and really lingers.

Helu was put on IR. I think if Morris wasn't doing as well they might have kept Helu around, but now there's no reason to bring him back. Helu is injury prone, just let him rest up this year.

But yeah, players on this team worth keeping:

Trent Williams
Bob
Al Morris
Fred Davis (?)
Corey Licthensteiger
Perry Riley
London (as long as he keeps playing)
Orakpo
Darrell Young (I guess?)
Garcon (I guess?)

Maybes:
Kerrigan (we'll see)
Logan Paulsen
The defensive line. (seems pretty decent for a 3-4 defense, but there's no pass rush)
Leonard Hankerson
Helu

This team has no depth, lacks at least 11 good starters, and doesn't have enough future or current super stars.

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226. "You've given up on Kerrigan already?"
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227. "RE: You've given up on Kerrigan already?"
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>>Maybes:

>>(we'll see)

No.

But for a first round pick and a sorry defense in real need of some pass rush and some good play, he's been as average as anyone else outside the secondary.

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228. "he was good when Rak was there, invisible now that he is gone"
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It seems that getting doubled due to being the only legit pass rushing threat is the explanation.

having jenkins and alexander/jackson on the field completely swings the focus of blocking to kerrigan's side.

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229. "My Observations Panthers At Skins"
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- The Steelers gave the league the blueprint on how to defend Griff. They are taking away the edges and playing back. They're keying on the on the seam route after a playfake. Which is why Josh Morgan got blown up TWICE yesterday.

- Ok so i've been pretty complimentary about Kyle this year, but he called a bad game yesterday. I feel like he didn't adjust to what the panthers were doing outside of that one drive where they were running the pistol and triple option. At somepoint in thr 4th quarter I feel like Griff stopped listening to the playbook and went for self. Hence the crazy pinwheel dive for a first down and such. He's our best player and the rest of the guys just aren't helping him out.

- Offensive line had their worst game of the season. 4 Man rush and they pressured all game long. The panthers did an incredible job of collapsing the pocket and not allowing Griff to get outside because that's when he can hurt you. Tyler Polumbus got Reggie white bitchslapped yesterday. It was shameful. The interior line has to do a better job of either turning their man a particular way to allow Griff an escape route or just be better. They got Confused on stunts and twists and got beat at the point of attack.

- While we're talking about blocking i'd like to point out that Evan Royster is our 3rd down, but can not pick up a block. There were 2 plays in the red zone that were killed because Royster couldn't sustain or pick up a block. On the 4th down play in the 1st half the corner ran right at Royster almost falling down, but because Royster didn't just take him off his feet, the corner closes down the outside lane and in the process takes away the cutback for Griff with no pass option on this play it was doomed at this point. The othre was a pass play in the redzone where a blitzing safety just ran right through royster and got to Griff. These are 2 small moments in the game that change games and if he's hot up to the task then guess what get him outta there.

- Hankerson should not be on this team next year. He can't catch. Griff placed that deep throw in his hands. the defenders didn't deflect it, the ball hit him in his hands and he dropped it. No excuse, on a team that doesnt' have any margin for error when he drops those passes it hurts doubly. He needs to go after this year.

- I'm not really sure why people have been so hard on Josh Morgan. He's been the best reciever on our team. Santana has all the tds' but Morgan has been catching balls and has been the best blocker we have on the roster. He took two huge shots yesterday and only had 1 drop. Let #15 cook he's working.

- The defense had a decent game. They got walked up and down the field but it was realyl Cam that fucked them up. Hall got held on the Williams TD, but it's Hall so he's not going to get that call anymore this year.

(speaking of that play, the sidejudge BLEW the whistle yes you messed up and cost a team a td, own up to it and blow the play dead where you blew the whistle and then start again. Instead they just lied and gave them the TD. That's shameful officiating. Yes he blew the whistle inadvertantly but hey that's the rule)

Back to the defense. As bad as Hall has been his technique this week was better than it normally is. I think that incident last week humbled and focused him for the most part. When defending down the field Deangelo got his head around and made a play on the ball, Josh was in the exact same position, but never got his head around and got scored on. On the one huge mistake I think that was Madieu again, plus Deangelo dove down to take away the flat but didnt' realize the wr kept his soft 9 going. since Madieu never saw the route to begin with there was no one there. that's going to be a play that they watch on tape next week and its going to hurt because they had done a decent job of containing the passing attack. Even with that 80 yard play Cam threw for 224. The secondary actually did a decent job yesterday.

- I think its' time for the Brandon Banks experiment to end. His supposed speed in the option game hasn't helped and he's nto large enough to fight for 2 yards when he needs it.

- So lets say we're in the EXACT same position next year at this time does the seat finally get hot for Shanny? The thing that's concerning me and this is a coaching thing is team discipline. We're the most penalized team in the league and costing ourselves chances to win with these mistakes. So when does Shanny and Haz finaly get to be held accountible for all of this?

- So i'm wondering where those people who said Brain Orakpo is overrated are at now? Notice how sharply Ryan kerrigan's production has fallen without Rak on the other side. I mean he's not even getting CLOSE to sacks now. Meanwhile Rob Jackson is taking on the opposing team's best lineman and getting pressure on the qb pretty consistently during games. Folks need to start watching taht line play, because we're getting punched in the mouth in the trenches. Coefield has been good, Jarvis has disappeared. Kedric Golston still getting snaps.

- All in all we're not a good team.

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230. "RE: My Observations Panthers At Skins"
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1. Agree. The seam route on the pistol zone read was a pretty simple play and was only going to survive as a primary passing play for so long. It will be effective again if the passing game can get something else going to complement it.

2. Agree. Kyle called a pretty bad game. Going for it on 4th and goal wasn't a mistake. The mistake was a screen pass to BRANDON 80-lbs BANKS in the red zone/goal line (really Kyle? really?) and then calling a QB sweep on 4th with no option to pass.

3. OL was terrible, especially Polumbus.

4. Royster, yup.

5. Sucks about Hank. That was a third round draft pick that the team really needed to pan out. He should be the serviceable 2nd WR. But he's not. He's basically nothing.

6. I'm mad at Josh Morgan's contract, not the player.

7. I thought the defense was the same old: can't really stop anyone. Half the time they forced a punt the Panthers took bad penalties, dropped passes, or Cam missed the WR by 8 feet.

8. I really thought Josh Wilson was solid, but I've seen him get beat too often for it to be true.

9. A year ago I liked having Brandon Banks around, but he has now shown that he's not really capable of playing in the NFL. He has no prayer of breaking a tackle or ever falling forward. So that means whenever you give him the ball, you're assuming the play will work if he doesn't get touched. That's a bit of a stretch for an NFL player.

10. Shanny is currently .341 in two and a half seasons. When will Snyder put him on the hot seat? Who knows. I can't remember the last time Snyder made a good football decision besides firing Vinny Cerrato 10 years too late.

11. Kerrigan is disappointing. He's making no difference whatsoever. That's not good enough for a first round pick.

12. Not by a long shot. No depth. Don't have 22 solid starters. Don't have enough "difference makers" or "elite players" or whatever euphemism one prefers.

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233. "tell me what you think about this theory of mine: "
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each of these three Shanahan seasons has ultimately decided by three plays. Three huge pass plays that crushed the spirit of the team each year and buried the season;

year 1: Houston at Washington, DeAngelo Hall gives up a huge bomb to Andre Johnson. Lead blown, wind out of our sails and never recovered.

year 2: Washington at Dallas, DeAngelo Hall gives up 3rd&18 to Dez Bryant. Lead blown, wind out of our sails and never recovered.

year 3: Washington at New York, inept secondary gives up huge bomb to Victor Cruz. Lead blown, in a complete free fall since.

What is the same through all of this?

- a secondary void of talent
- a defensive coordinator who trusts this corps far too much and
refuses to alter his gameplan
- a head coach/GM who has failed to address these problems now through three years.


I maintain that these three plays will ultimately be what spells doom for Mike Shanahan. If we stop ANY of these three plays I truly believe everything is different, especially this year.

  

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234. "First that Houston play was on Reed Doughty"
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Also that Houston game was in SEPTEMBER can't put an entire season on that game. That was an actual good game by McNabb. After that we figure out that this experiment isnt' going to work. That season was a wrap because of personnel not because of that play. There were a ton of issues with that team that were bigger than that play. If any game is to blame for THAT season it'd be any and all in the Philly game.

#2. That was a crushing defeat but a worse one was Deangelo hall getting outmanned for a first down by Jake Delhomme on a 4th and 2 in Carolina. This was a bad call where they went zero coverage where Hall was one on one and got beat. Bad call by the DC, bad execution by the corner.

#3. too early in the season to be the thing that spoils the whole season. Especially when the majority of us knew that this was a rebuilding season. I think folks drank the kool aid too quickly because GRiff played as well as he did. We were never supposed to contend this year anyway. Shanny has been selling people a bill of goods that no one who's watching should've been buying. This season went down the tubes with injuries and lack of resources not that Cruz play.

I feel you, I do and I think Shanny has to bare responsibility for what he's created, but its not just those plays. We're a bad organization and it takes a while to get turned around. Patience is what i've been trying to tell folks for a bit. This is why. Now everyone's on a witch hunt when we didn't have the tools to begin with.

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235. "we're 2.5 years in."
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How much better is the roster than when Shanahan started?

Outside of the seemingly brilliant move of getting Bob, what optimism do you feel for the other 52 players or 21 starters?

IMO, this is what I expected with Shanahan. A few good moves, especially on offense, but overall the man is simply not a successful personnel guy.

For media image sake I might not fire him right now, but if this team continues to lose double digit games and finish in last or third place, I don't see how much longer you can keep him beyond this year OR next year.

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236. "Well lets be honest, he fucked up when he switched to the 3-4"
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That's taking a perfectly good defense and starting over and as we've discussed doubling your needs over night.

He's not a great personnel guy and we've known that we just hoped it would be different this time. Are we in better shape, sure, because we have a real qb, but we don't have anyone or the resources around him.

its a tough position to be in, and if he's not making real strides next year then its time to cut our loses

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237. "we're in infinitely better shape @ the most important pos."
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but a majority of the rest of the roster is the same garbage (worse in some cases)

If you get to week 9 next year and the team is staring down the 4th straight 10+ loss season, there is no justification for keeping Shanahan whatsoever.

Even Gibbs and Cerrato made the playoffs every once in a while.

Shanahan hasn't won a playoff game since 1998.

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238. "That's some pretty damning factual proof that Shanny gotta go"
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I mean dude if he has a worst record than ZORN! He has the worst coaching record of any of the recent coaches, and if by this time next year we're not seeing clear progression then something has to be done .

That something is to get rid of the Shanny's

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239. "Meriweather out for season, SMH"
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241. "Meriweather isn't very good. "
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242. "As soon as I saw him go down with no contact I knew what it was"
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Pats let him go for a reason.

Its incredible we had dude for one half and he vastly improved our team. That's how bad we are.

DAMN Thursday is going to have me looking salty

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244. "thursday is 50/50 bro. cheer up"
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246. "The Boys line is beat up, but we have trouble getting Romo "
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To the ground, he usually dances on us and throws to Witten for 55 yards.

- Dez has been playing much better as of recent and Murray is a beast.

- I just don't think our secondary can hold up, I hope they do but I don't believe we have the horses.

-Offensively I believe we can run the ball, and run our plays. The over the top plays can and should work against this team. If we can get Niles Paul down the seam that should be open all game as evidenced by Benjamin Watson's 2 TD's last week.

- We should be in this game and if it comes down to if we have the ball last I think we have a great shot at winning.

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247. "RG3 since the Bye Week:"
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Incompletions: 9
TD passes: 8


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/wp/2012/11/22/redskins-cowboys-best-and-worst/

also:

Best Six Quarters: From the start of the Eagles game until halftime of the Cowboys game, RGIII was 25-for-29 yards passing for 408 yards, with seven touchdowns, no interceptions, and 93 rushing yards. That’s impossible.

Best Stat, I: The Redskins scored 28 points in the second quarter. That was their most points in a quarter since Oct. 3 of 1999. That’s more than 13 years.

...

Best Stat, III: Griffin became the first Redskins quarterback in franchise history to throw four touchdown passes in consecutive games. He also became the first rookie quarterback in NFL history to throw four touchdown passes in consecutive games, via STATS LLC.

Best Stat, IV: The Redskins have now scored 295 points in 2012. They scored 288 points in 2011. They still have five games left.

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249. "the blackman is god"
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248. "i had a daydream RGIII was throwing to monk, clark, and sanders"
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oh wait! it was moss, garcon, and robinson, and it happened on thursday.

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250. "posse 2012"
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>oh wait! it was moss, garcon, and robinson, and it happened
>on thursday.


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251. "RIP Sean Taylor"
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252. "When's the last time we ran thru the NFC East like that?"
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3 games in a row? I can't remember if it even happened at all.

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253. "Probably when they swept the division with Gibbs"
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254. "Pierre Garcon is good."
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What an improvement a talented WR makes.

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255. "This has been a pretty great little stretch for this team"
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- Griff and this read option has been a productive Killer with Alfred Morris RUNNING his ass off. Darrel young leading the way on kickout blocks, taking Antrelle Rolle completely off of the screen. If they can keep this level of productive rushing up, they have a shot at going 3-1 down the stretch with the ability to win the Division. I NEED that.

- Garcon makes this offense go, not having to rely on Hankerson has really opened the offense up. It shows you what the potential for this offense can be if and when Garcon can get healthy. He's playing at like 75% right now, I like what I see in him. I also like what I see in Josh Morgan. He's been a really good blocker downfield and never quit on the play Griff fumbled on, if he'd stopped running and gave up he wouldn't have been in position to make that play. I like him too .

- Defense is playing good ball, not great they still give up the big play, but they're playing good ball. They held the Giants this time around, and they did a really good job of not allowing the running game to get started. Its not secret we can't stop the pass effectively so folks are going to just throw the ball against us but when they try and stay balanced and throw the ball we stuff that, and I like what I see outta Perry Riley and Rob Jackson, those two kids may be on this team for years to come. London since he's been hurt has been all over the field. I've seen him miss a few tackles and his coverage randge isn't what it used to be, but he's always around the ball and that hit he laid on Ahmad Bradshaw was beautiful. Bradshaw couldnt' even talk shit he just got blasted and walked back to the huddle. That dude can still play at a very high level. Now to the secondary........

- Cedrick Griffin you sorry muthafucka! Have a decently good game where you actualy have an impact and then you're done for the sesaon. WTF!!!!!!! They are saying its PEDS and he did it, there's been no appeal, no nothing he did it, got caught and now he's fucked his teammates. You sorry muthafucka.

- Josh and DeAngelo are playing well. Josh is playing very well despite being undersized, and DeAngelo was playing pretty good other than that Rub route he got caught on in the inside on and the shake Cruz gave him to create space on the post route. Other than that though I can't say i've had much of an issue with Hall. Plus he's shut the fuck up, he hasn't been talking, just playing football and his play has improved because of it.

- Alfred Morris is a beast, i want him on my team.

- Brandon Banks, we've tried, we've tried, and we've tried some more, but you've got to go (unless you break one in the final 4 games of the season to get us to the playoffs) you're dead to me.

- Griff is the present, and the future.

- If this team gets some O line help and a semblance of a secondary they'll be a problem next year.

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256. "we're going to beat the Ravens, lose @ CLE, win out (3-1)"
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Meanwhile, the Giants are going to go 2-2 down the stretch.

Which nabs us the division at 9-7. At which point my head will explode, I'll put it back together piece by piece, then cry for 22 hours straight and vow to name all of my children Griffin.

  

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257. "I would love nothing more"
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To see them beat the Ravens to shut up all the newfound Baltimore fans who think its cool to shit on the Skins then to beat the Eagles and Cowboys again, then Host a playoff game!

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258. "man we gon talk awl kindsa shit to them salty giants fans"
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260. "LOL"
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nice


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267. "I would also argue the OL has played well above what we thought..."
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....going into the season. I'm not impressed enough, or fooled into thinking that we don't need to spend a high draft pick there, cause we still do.

But those guys are playing really well more often than not and are putting in a yeoman's effort. Beefing up that unit will only make them better.
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268. "the product of playing 12 straight games together."
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269. "Yes."
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Basically Trent-Licht-Monty-Chester is a solid 4 person unit.

Polumbus is a huge black hole weak link ass dude.

It's only bc of the offense that we run that he doesn't hold the whole thing back (credit to the Shanaclan for coaching to the talent - or lack of talent)

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271. "CORRECT"
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You hit that one on the head.

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272. "and props to GM shanny for drafting trent"
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we could be stuck with okung right now.
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274. "Yes"
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although Okung's been slowed more by injury after injury, rather than talent.

I'm just glad Shanny took an OT. His aversion to drafting linemen in the first or second round is troublesome.

We can get by this year with Polumbus at RT, but next year we should be a playoff team and Polumbus won't let that happen.

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259. "CB Korey Lindsey signed to the practice squad"
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returns kicks. bring that joker in. C Griffin is out, and no one can be worse than Banks.

speaking of ppl who contribute nothing: Niles Paul.
how did this guy beat Chris Cooley out other than boxscore athleticism?


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261. "actually, Niles Paul is a really really good return man"
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and you're right, he brings little to the Tight End position. He needs to return kicks

  

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263. "he's too small to be a TE, IMO"
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264. "he also blows people up on occasion when we're punting"
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he's a legit special teams guy that adds depth.

it is unclear though how he ever played WR. His hands are made of stone.


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262. "only memories I have of Paul this year"
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is him dropping passes.

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265. "My favorite 'Skins player OAT, Art Monk, Inducted into the CFB HOF!!!"
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http://www.syracuse.com/orangefootball/index.ssf/2012/12/syracuse_football_great_art_mo.html

New York – Art Monk insists he’s not just trying to be humble when he talks about his surprise at being voted into the College Football Hall of Fame.

“Being recognized for my collegiate career, it’s more of a surprise to me than the Pro Football Hall of Fame,” the former Syracuse University All-America receiver said after being introduced with 13 other former college stars and three coaches today at a National Football Foundation news conference in Manhattan’s Waldorf-Astoria.

Monk, who turns 55 Wednesday, was enshrined for his pro achievements four years ago in Canton, Ohio. In 16 NFL seasons, Monk won three Super Bowl rings with the Washington Redskins, set records for receptions in a season (106) and for his career (819).

In four years at SU, Monk caught 102 passes for 1,644 yards. In his senior season (1979), Monk caught 40 passes for 716 yards and three touchdowns.

“It was very different,” Monk said of playing four years (1976-79) on Frank Maloney teams that went a combined 19-26.

“We ran the ball, and we had a quarterback (Bill Hurley) who liked to run the ball,” Monk said. “Even times when we were supposed to pass he would run.”

Monk – who was formally honored Tuesday night at a National Football Foundation dinner with other former college greats such as California quarterback Steve Bartkowski, Notre Dame tight end Dave Casper, BYU quarterback Ty Detmer and UCLA tackle Jonathan Ogden – described his freshman season as a flop.

» Watch the award ceremony Tuesday at 8 p.m.

The next year, Monk was moved to running back by then-Orange assistant Tom Coughlin, now coach of the NFL’s New York Giants. As a sophomore, Monk caught 41 passes for 590 yards and four TDs.

“I caught all of the passes coming out of the backfield,” he said. “That’s kind of where it all started.”

Monk was put back at wide receiver for his final two seasons, largely due to the arrival in 1978 of Joe Morris, who began his assault on SU’s rushing records.

“I was glad to be back out wide, where there was less traffic,” Monk said.

The White Plains native said he was lucky to end up at SU in the first place.

A gifted athlete at White Plains High School, Monk didn’t always apply himself in the classroom.

After scouts from SU and other colleges noticed Monk on the football field during his junior season, his high school coach told him that he hadn’t pushed Monk too hard for a scholarship because he wasn’t doing well in school

“So that kind of started a fire in me,” Monk said.

While his NFL seasons brought him more fame, the soft-spoken Monk said he more fondly remembers his days with the Orange.

“I think my college years were not only more fun, but it’s a closer bond,” he said. “You lose together, you sweat together, you hurt together – but you also live together off of the field. You’re not under the supervision of mom and dad anymore, so you’re kind of free to kind of do what you want to, and experience life in a different way. For me, those are my best years.”

Monk, a member of the SU board of trustees who lives in northern Virginia, recently sold a business he had with former Redskins teammate Charles Mann and is now part of a group trying to develop sporting venues, including those for football, in China.

Reminded by another former SU great, Floyd Little, of how special it is to be a member of both the college and pro football halls of fame, Monk just smiles.

“I’m still astonished,” he said. “I grew up loving the game. I never expected to get anything out of it other than just playing – and having opportunities to move forward.”

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270. "Art Monk is my favorite Athelete of ALL time. higher than MJ"
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Its Art and everyone else.

I'm really excited to see him get this acknowledgement.

I want to teach my son about players like Art Monk.

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273. "Watching him and DG getting in LIVE was a highlight of my life."
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Everyone should strive to be the players him and DG were.

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290. "Art was my hero, for real"
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Always humble, always played his position to the best of his ability, never had to be told to STFU. Seeing him in green hurt my soul and made the 'Skins dead to me. For years I said I wouldn't root for them until Art got in the Pro HOF. I think I even teared up a bit at his acceptance speach

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292. "My Father and I both shed a tear"
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Being at That HOF induction was one of the best weekends of my life, plain and simple.

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275. "One of these things is not like the other."
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Also, get well and stay well Bob.

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276. "well Rypien did win a SB, lol"
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thanks for capturing this there wasnt enuf time to give it a real good look in the game

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278. "lol... damn, I remember Todd Collins"
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that was a weird ass time

  

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277. "for three weeks in a row, this is what I've said:"
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"that was the best Skins win I've ever seen"

mind you all I'm almost 26, so as far as my memory goes I have very few inspiring Skins wins to draw from.

But I said that after the Cowboys game on Thanksgiving, I said it after the Monday Night game against the Giants, and I of course said it after I'd come back down to earth after the game I experienced in person yesterday.

I haven't ever had this much FUN watching this team. Ever.

  

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279. "yesterday was fucking crazy."
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also as I've said all year: even if the odds aren't good, at least this is a team (player) I want to watch every week.

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280. "yes, finally a team worth watching..."
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>also as I've said all year: even if the odds aren't good, at
>least this is a team (player) I want to watch every week.

The last few years really became a low point for me as a sk*ns fan...

  

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281. "my dad flirted with the idea of getting season tix my whole life"
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FINALLY he gets them in Zorn year 2. Needless to say that was a one-and-done expenditure.

So, yea, these last few years have been awful.

  

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282. "i've pitched every season ticket offer they've sent me the last 5 years"
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283. "Its actually a pretty shitty gameday experience"
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Its nicer to sit at home and watch in HD. Its such a stark contrast to the way it used to be at RFK.

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284. "I would've said the same thing before Sunday"
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but that was a gameday experience unlike any I'd ever witnessed, especially for that stadium. It was electric and loud throughout the entire game, everyone stood the whole time, and the tailgate scene was buzzing before and after.

  

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285. "That's great to hear, but I know for a fact it'll do nothing for the "
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Drunkards that tend to load that place up.

I am not trying to shit in your cupcake since i haven't been to a game in the RG regime, but i've been in that stadium many many times.

At the current its a place I wouldn't want to take my son to see a game at, I hope over time with Griff there, that'll change.

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286. "I would pay any amount of $ to see one more game at RFK"
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They should do it for nostalgia purposes...even if I'm in peanut heaven.

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288. "They took all the seats out dog, its gone my baby gone!!"
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291. "they shoulda had one home game at RFK"
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raise the ticket prices thru the roof if they had to.
shit woulda been bananas

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300. "I would have paid a very pretty penny for a ticket"
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287. "the crowd really is why I don't really go anymore."
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Too many drunk assholes (of every type).

Not enough fun cheering for the team, just drunken yelling and stupidity.

Just not enjoyable.

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289. "The Amount of fights there would freak me out"
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I mean to take my son into that sort of environment unless we had those suites or club, I just couldn't do it.

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293. "the announcers were really pissing me off"
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1. Mike Martz stayed saying stupid shit

2. More than once the PxP guy (Ron Pitts?) claimed that "Washington, DC" hated the Kirk Cousins pick on draft day.

WRONG.

A HANDFUL of idiotic national sportswriters with nothing to say tried to make a controversy out of nothing.

The rest of us, including Bob and Kirk, knew what was up.

Shanny knows QBs, and if he wanted to develop a good back up QB, most of us were on board with that.

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294. "Naw they were right, MOST people here criticized the move"
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Almost everyone I talked to, and a lot of those loud fans absolutely hated that pick. Its ok to be wrong as fans, that's why we don't run a team, we just support it.

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295. "yep. even i did, but hey, i don't mind being proven wrong"
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297. "Not on any blogs/boards/friends I saw"
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Like none.

Who gets worked up over a 4th round pick?

Who didn't support replacing Sexy Rexy?

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301. "Yea everyone supported getting rid of Rex"
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But my people who generally know something about football were saying taht taking a qb in the 4th was too high when this team has so many other needs.

Obviously it doesn't matter now as KC and Shanny has proven all of us wrong.

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298. "that was one of the worst announce crews ever"
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299. "I had gotten used to getting good announcing teams this year. "
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For years we were stuck with idiots like Tim Ryan.

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302. "We're going to get the middle crew next week"
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Then we'll get Troy and Joe Buck for the Skins Boys game unless it gets flexed and then we get Chris Collinsworth.

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296. "Skins @ Browns"
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- First let me say that Kirk Cousins had a great game, but more than anything a great gameplan. THe Shanny's took advantage of something they saw in the film room and ran it to death. They won this game on Wednesday, and that's a really nice feeling. Also the adjustments that were made were very good. They outcoached the Browns and its nice to see your coaching staff be better than the other side. The Browns have a lot of talent outside of QB, but they got beat in the meeting rooms.

- Cousins looked bad at first, but got himself going and it went from there. He made some really good reads and was throwing that pill so hard!! I like what they have in him, and if they can bamboozle a 1st rounder out of someone, then fam we are in business. Great gameplan and even better execution by KC and the offense.

- The Defense looked like a much improved bunch in the 2nd half, after getting literally pushed around a lot in the first half they came out, got a quick turnover and changed the game. Aside from that lapse on the outside where they were bracketing Massaqui they played well.

- This game took on a real fight aspect, folks were getting punched in the jaw and talking shit. It was crazy, there was a lot of shit talking, and a lot of jawing, I was like damn this is like a fucking divisional game. Good intensity. fun game to watch if you're a skins fan.

Also heard that London's family got really fucked up at the game. His Aunt had a heart attack and was taken the hospital, his younger cousins were arrested and beaten up. Sister punched, all sorts of shit. Not a good look.

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303. "10 WINS! NFC EAST CHAMPS! PLAYOFFS!"
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:)

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304. "we still wanna fire Haslett?"
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let's give Ginger a little credit.

  

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305. "i suppose it depends on who we can get"
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but yes. it doesnt take a genius to realize when you cant cover anyone, blitz and try to keep them in front of you

id love to see this with a healthy jarvis jenkins and orakpo, with rob jackson getting significant time.
not to mention a first or second rd free safety

with fred davis and a couple OL, we gonna roll the nfl east for the next couple years

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309. "Need WRs."
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Garcon is nice, need other guys.

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317. "Its not as big of a need as DBs are at the moment. We need safeties like"
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yesterday.

  

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319. "truth."
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307. "Give him some top tier safeties first, then we'll see........."
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Cause his schemes were on point tonight.......

Now imagine what he would have done with Laron (who made the pro bowl this year) and a seasoned Sean Taylor?

Give him some help back there, but right now, I'm good unless someone you can't pass up comes along.
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308. "great game tonight"
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I won't fire him if he actually becomes a good coach.

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310. "I have to admit, he has been coaching his ass off"
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I mean we probably have one of the weakest set of DBs in the NFL. Yet somehow he has used their strengths to stop teams in the second half of games.
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312. "I have to give credit where it's due. Don't know how he's doing it."
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314. "the d has really stepped up since the bye."
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i think he began to scheme for the talent he has and not what he started the season with.

changing directions like that takes time after an offseason of thinking that orakpo, carriker, jackson, and meriwether would be around.

and props to d hall for stepping up as well.

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306. "WE WANT SEATTLE!!!"
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311. "I'm glad the game is at FedEx "
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313. "so glad..."
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315. "there really isnt a team in the nfc to fear"
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the worst matchups would be on the road at sea or gb.

this team can definitely lose to any team in the playoffs, but vs sea, and @ atl is definitely managable.


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316. "Seattle is the best defense they've played in weeks"
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This is one game I wish RGIII's leg was at at least 95%.

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318. "i hope b.mitch was right"
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he said the brace itself is so big, it might be making him more gimpy than the injury is. another week might be enough to move to a lighter brace.

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320. "Division CHAMPS!!! 10-6 I never imagined they do this, this year"
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I can't even front I didn't think Shanahan had it in him, I didn't think Haslett could get this ragtag group to perform at the level that they played at down the stretch. There was no less than 3 dudes that you didn't even know their names on the field at all times, yet they performed well.

- Also I want my props on D. Hall, I told ya'll he wasn't cooked. Him getting kicked out in Pittsburgh was the best thing for him. Since then he's shut his mouth and just played football and he's been a better player for it.

- GOT DAMN first round talent AL!!! This dude is the #3 runner in the league, meanwhile his gimpy qb ran for 65 yards a touch. This ground game is so real, I hope next week Griff can get a smaller brace. I can't tell you how much I like these dudes. They're setting this franchise up with players for the next 5-7 years.

- I have to say SHanahan's experience showed against Jason Garrett. He completely outcoached him and did his part to put his team in a position to win.

I can't get all my thoughts together because i'm quite happy with how this has all played out. I would love to see them take it to Seattle, and if that happens then guess what this team has a shot. They believe it and for the first time in a long time even with all the players missing from all over the field I like this team.

If they lose next week, doesn't matter I'm playign with house money we weren't even supposed to be here, but here we are Division CHAMPS.

Morris better get some love for OROY.

Oh and I love that we had to beat the Cowboys to do it. It makes it so SWEET!!!!

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321. "Even in a best-case RG3 rookie year"
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I didn't see 10-6 or the playoffs.

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322. "I don't think anyone did. "
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I for damn sure didn't. This team brought it together when it mattered the most. I'm proud to be a fan right now.

  

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323. "End of the season post. After Loss to Seattle"
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- If Griff was healthy they beat Seattle and there's nothing anyone can tell me to dissuade me from that.

- Ok to the big issue right now some folks won't feel me on this and i'm perfectly ok with that. Mike should've pulled Griff when his knee buckled on the back pedal with no contact. I said it then, i'll say it now. EVERYONE is arguing whether Griffin should've come out, guess what that shit ain't his call. Shanny clearly saw his FRANCHISE couldn't walk, not barely, not a little couldn't walk and yet let him go back out on the field. It wasn't the wince inducing bootleg either, it was his long ball interception. If anyone's ever thrown a football really far the difference is in your legs, with your plant leg, if you can't plant and generate power then you can't throw. Whenever Griff tried to throw hard his back leg came off the ground immediately. So I don't give a shit if he can't run, that's not his job. His job is to throw the football and if he can't throw time to get pulled. So all that if he comes out blah blah, you can't win I don't give a shit, that's not his call and as the coach you put the team above your star's wants. PULL HIM.

- Dude the much maligned defense played their asses off, they had some trouble defending the zone read, but honestly they handled it as well as anyone could with Marshawn Lynch beasting as usual. They played well enough to win. Reed Doughty earned his check yesterday with 10 tackles and 2 sacks, London 15 tackles and .5 sack. Those are two individually great games that will be forgotten in this Griff saga. This Defensive secondary after the bye played incredible and Haz, and Radio need to get some love for what they did. They started coaching to what they had opposed to what they were supposed to have. They did well down the stretch and I'm quite happy with what this ragtag group did, however No Madieu Williams next year is a good thing. Overall with what we had to work with, i'm not super upset.

-Great season and as long as Griff doesn't miss all of next year with a knee injury I think they've set up some great building blocks for the future.

- HTTR

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324. "that's as good a note as any."
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