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"State Pen coach indicted on felony charges sex crimes against minors"
Fri Nov-04-11 06:23 PM by guru0509

  

          

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/11/former_penn_state_coach_jerry.html

WE.ARE.PEDOS!


Sex abuse charges have been filed in Centre County against Penn State coaching legend and Second Mile charity founder Jerry Sandusky.

The charges follow a more-than two year grand jury investigation that began when a Clinton County teen alleged inappropriate contact against the 67-year-old former coach.

During the investigation, older allegations from 1998 surfaced as well. In the older case, Penn State police investigated inappropriate touching in a shower.

The charging paperwork has not yet made it to the District Magistrate Judge's office in Centre County. However, felony charges of involuntary deviate sexual intercourse of someone under 16, aggravated indecent assault, indecent assault of someone under 16, indecent assault of someone under 13, and corruption of minors charges have been filed in the state court docket system.

The offense dates include 1996, 1998, 2000, 2002, and 2005. There are 40 counts included in the paperwork filed against him.

The Patriot-News first broke the story about the investigation in March, shortly after Penn State coach Joe Paterno testified before the the grand jury along with Penn State's interim senior vice president for finance and business Gary Schultz and athletic director Tim Curley.

At one time, Sandusky was considered Paterno’s likely successor. During his 32 years on the sidelines, the College Township, Centre County resident was credited with turning Penn State into Linebacker U and producing such pro football greats as Jack Ham and LaVar Arrington.

Sandusky retired from Penn State shortly after the Alamo Bowl in December 1999, and began devoting all of his time to running The Second Mile, a children’s charity he founded in 1977 that reaches 200,000 kids in this state each year through programs and camps.

Last fall, he retired from day-to-day involvement, saying he wanted to spend more time with family and handle personal matters.

Officials at the non-profit have repeatedly said The Second Mile will continue in its work to help children, despite the allegations made against Sandusky.
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The Remix To Ignition The Slappy Valley Edition
Nov 04th 2011
1
Should help recruiting
Nov 04th 2011
2
http://deemerscarletletter.wikispaces.com/file/view/CHRIS-HANSEN-Why-don...
Nov 05th 2011
3
damn u OSU fuckers are sad, making a joke out of what is some pretty...
Nov 05th 2011
4
Uh Penn State isn't a rivalry and their sports programs aren't relevant
Nov 05th 2011
5
aren't they undefeated in the big tenwelve?
Nov 05th 2011
20
      only for two more weeks
Nov 05th 2011
23
           probably only one. we'll probably lose out.
Nov 05th 2011
25
           yeah they aren't winning shit
Nov 05th 2011
26
not to mention was barely even there when PSU was in the Big 10
Nov 05th 2011
7
LMAO with the self righteous bullshit all of a sudden
Nov 05th 2011
8
a Buckeye booted his sorry ass from his own fantasy football league
Nov 05th 2011
10
careful.he may bring up ross homan & cie grants lack of nfl productivity
Nov 05th 2011
12
      but Cie Grant sure can carry a tune
Nov 05th 2011
14
I don't give a fuck about OSU or Penn St either way, and I don't...
Nov 05th 2011
32
      yes, cause your grasp on reality has been widely accepted here
Nov 05th 2011
57
           lol
Nov 05th 2011
68
           lay off the roids
Nov 05th 2011
77
                ouch!
Nov 05th 2011
82
                     RE: ouch!
Nov 05th 2011
112
                          lol, read your subject title in post 4
Nov 05th 2011
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                               RE: lol, read your subject title in post 4
Nov 05th 2011
116
                                    word
Nov 05th 2011
118
yea really sad. if you want to report news than do so. no need to try
Nov 05th 2011
40
I mean => http://www.wlwt.com/2011/1103/29675467_240X180.jpg
Nov 05th 2011
53
      Hold up Adwizz abandoned Penn State too
Nov 05th 2011
58
God damnit. I grew up a penn state fan. lol @ we.are.pedos.
Nov 05th 2011
6
You're right. This is absolutely something to make jokes about.
Nov 05th 2011
9
you're right. cause if it happened to an osu coach/player
Nov 05th 2011
15
lol @ all of you getting your panties in a bunch
Nov 05th 2011
11
you're right. we should definitely joke about pedophilia.
Nov 05th 2011
13
      Our ex coaches lie to cover up past player's mistakes
Nov 05th 2011
16
      lol. this is why no one likes your thug fanbase
Nov 05th 2011
18
           Yes, bc Penn State fans are the epitome of class.
Nov 05th 2011
19
           do we make pedophilia jokes? no? then we're not in your "class"
Nov 05th 2011
22
                >then we're not in your "class"
Nov 05th 2011
27
           Wait a damn second
Nov 05th 2011
21
           no
Nov 05th 2011
24
           ^^^^^ exactly
Nov 05th 2011
85
      why you worked up, is Roman Polanski also a Miami Hurricanes fan?
Nov 05th 2011
17
           I don't get the miami references...nm
Nov 05th 2011
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                He's a die-hard Miami sports fan that only claimed the Heat for one year
Nov 05th 2011
30
wait we can't mock people who touch kids now?
Nov 05th 2011
29
It's an agenda front from the same clowns w/ DVR set for Dateline NBC
Nov 05th 2011
31
I'm not morally offended by pedo jokes, just takes skill to pull em off
Nov 05th 2011
33
fair enough, was just confused by the moral posturing
Nov 05th 2011
42
oh I know you weren't but it was funny because of the truthiness
Nov 05th 2011
49
long response for someone who supposedly doesnt care for either school
Nov 05th 2011
44
long answer for someone who claims to not have read it
Nov 05th 2011
47
ie writing skills
Nov 06th 2011
149
PSU fans can dish it out but cant take it
Nov 05th 2011
60
      And he took it there for the TKO
Nov 05th 2011
79
Oh Christ No. Our CURRENT AD is charged with perjury
Nov 05th 2011
34
ok, if this is true, EVERYONE gets fired
Nov 05th 2011
36
so is this stuff that's alleged to have happened while at PSU?
Nov 05th 2011
38
as i understand it, one incident in 95, one in 98
Nov 05th 2011
41
      shit, if that's the case, Paterno might have to go as well
Nov 05th 2011
45
           oh, he's gone.
Nov 05th 2011
46
this is where it gets really gross
Nov 05th 2011
39
      this is where we hold a press conference and fire paterno today
Nov 05th 2011
43
nevermind..shelly posted it first
Nov 05th 2011
35
everyone gets fired. the secretaries, the janitors, everyone
Nov 05th 2011
37
i'm about to cry
Nov 05th 2011
48
Dedicated to Joe Paterno
Nov 05th 2011
50
i could almost believe paterno didn't know
Nov 05th 2011
52
Oh God (Swipe)
Nov 05th 2011
51
They need to can and jail EVERYONE
Nov 05th 2011
54
Rittenberg says Joe reported what he knew
Nov 05th 2011
55
      They're all gonna fall for Joe
Nov 05th 2011
56
           you hear about a criminal charge
Nov 05th 2011
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           If you're a decent person though, you go to the cops, too.
Nov 05th 2011
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                Well first you shit your pants.... Then you go to the cops
Nov 05th 2011
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                lol
Nov 05th 2011
71
                in all honesty, I can understand how dude froze up in that situation
Nov 09th 2011
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                paterno didn't see anyone raping anyone
Nov 05th 2011
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                     I've heard stories from relatives who went to PSU in the 60s and 70s
Nov 05th 2011
65
                     sigh. then again, as dan wetzel tweets
Nov 05th 2011
66
                          new article out now says Joe will testify as a prosecution witness
Nov 05th 2011
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                          That's my point.
Nov 05th 2011
69
                               Maybe I'm slow, but why couldn't that man inform the police?
Nov 05th 2011
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                               You're right. The witness definitely should have told police.
Nov 05th 2011
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                                    I definitely see your point. I'm just really, really disgusted right no...
Nov 05th 2011
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                               Even Barry Switzer would called the cops over this shit
Nov 05th 2011
75
           It's all speculation, but I can't imagine Joe would in any way shape
Nov 05th 2011
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                Well yeah, I doubt he was sitting there saying "get those kids, man"
Nov 05th 2011
70
Kinda puts OSU and the U in perspective.
Nov 05th 2011
74
neither does Reggie Bush dicking over a gangbanger & fledgling agency
Nov 05th 2011
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IDK if the NCAA has a rule for ADs who cover for pedos
Nov 05th 2011
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      lack of institutional morality? this shit's death-penatly worthy if true
Nov 05th 2011
81
      i think the ncaa will watch what the board of trustees does
Nov 05th 2011
87
           too much $$$ at stake for death penalty
Nov 08th 2011
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it's why you dont play the moral superiority angle
Nov 05th 2011
84
says the guy who played the same angle before Tressell got exposed
Nov 05th 2011
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      wrong
Nov 05th 2011
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           nah, you did actually but you get it now n/m
Nov 05th 2011
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                no, i actually didnt
Nov 05th 2011
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                     I wouldn't even bother 3X
Nov 05th 2011
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                     oh I ain't even talking about your sour grapes SEC ass-whoopings
Nov 05th 2011
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                          youre in the select minority of complete fools if you think this is true
Nov 05th 2011
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                          lol, okay
Nov 05th 2011
125
                          ain't nothin changed but feel free to paint the picture however u want
Nov 05th 2011
126
                               k.
Nov 05th 2011
127
it's silly to even compare this to any other case
Nov 05th 2011
88
Please.
Nov 05th 2011
91
no, it's just stupid to compare them
Nov 05th 2011
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      There you go. Feel morally vindicated?
Nov 05th 2011
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           dude, he was molesting children, and you're worried about tattoos
Nov 05th 2011
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                Love the intentional misreading. Feel good about yourself?
Nov 05th 2011
97
                     I feel awful, actual. how do you feel?
Nov 05th 2011
98
                          I feel sad for the victims, contempt for PSU, but otherwise fine.
Nov 05th 2011
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                               nah, you should just be a little embarrassed you made a bad post
Nov 05th 2011
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                                    lololololol
Nov 05th 2011
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Yeah, I'm not even going to entertain the OSU clowns. I'm glad
Nov 05th 2011
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well said
Nov 05th 2011
95
      lol slow down Limbaugh
Nov 05th 2011
110
i'm not gonna fuck with the moralizing but dave bliss is probably
Nov 06th 2011
141
honestly, how? to me, it doesn't at all
Nov 05th 2011
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and the name of Sandusky's autobiography:
Nov 05th 2011
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You can't make this shit up.
Nov 05th 2011
100
wow
Nov 05th 2011
108
O_O
Nov 06th 2011
146
It's still one guy and has no impact on the football side of the program
Nov 05th 2011
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im not sure what makes u think anyone enjoys seeing this
Nov 05th 2011
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but it's ok to make jokes about, apparently
Nov 05th 2011
119
time to get some thick skin
Nov 05th 2011
122
      do you really think i give a fuck about penn state right now?
Nov 05th 2011
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      its pretty obvious that you care what people are saying
Nov 06th 2011
138
      Well, I can tell you for sure that I feel an enormous amount of shame
Nov 06th 2011
139
           evidence of paying players based on what?
Nov 06th 2011
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                See, this is why I don't bother engaging OSU fans here in discussion
Nov 06th 2011
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                     sorry for hijacking
Nov 06th 2011
170
Bottom line, this should not be grouped with OSU, USC, or ...
Nov 05th 2011
128
^touched
Nov 05th 2011
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No. They need to take another look at college sports.
Nov 06th 2011
131
With you all the way.
Nov 07th 2011
280
one guy my ass
Nov 06th 2011
134
Wow, this is crazy
Nov 05th 2011
109
Sandusky's anthem:
Nov 05th 2011
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They're replacing that lion roar sound effect with ice cream truck music
Nov 05th 2011
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      Everyone has a gimic mr rogers changed his shoes mid-show
Nov 05th 2011
117
Dan Wetzel's Take: Unsurprisingly Better Than Mine
Nov 05th 2011
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Joe's on his way out regardless of what happens. There is no way
Nov 05th 2011
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they shouldn't let him leave on his own accord though
Nov 06th 2011
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      I agree and I'm one of his biggest fans of all time. I don't think it's
Nov 06th 2011
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      agreed 100 percent. fire him today.
Nov 06th 2011
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College Sports are too powerful. Gut it, all of it. I have no words.
Nov 06th 2011
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Paying players is unethical, but what happened at PSU is immoral
Nov 06th 2011
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O_O wauw wauw wauw. i was floored 2 paragraphs in.
Nov 06th 2011
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I stoppd there, I was not expecting that
Nov 06th 2011
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I can't believe this. Unimaginable that a coverup like this could happen...
Nov 06th 2011
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      RE: I can't believe this. Unimaginable that a coverup like this could ha...
Nov 06th 2011
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ewwwwww
Nov 06th 2011
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the latter part of your question answers the former
Nov 06th 2011
152
this is bad....
Nov 06th 2011
140
AYDMFs
Nov 06th 2011
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The grad asst. who witnessed the shower incident was Mike McQueary
Nov 06th 2011
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how do you not IMMEDIATELY intervene physically?
Nov 06th 2011
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right?
Nov 06th 2011
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while I feel the same way sitting on a laptop, I'm sure there's
Nov 06th 2011
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      yeah...he gets a pass for not acting in the moment
Nov 06th 2011
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      I agree with you, the right thing to do after Paterno failed to do act..
Nov 06th 2011
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      yup, the 'promotion' post-incident makes it even worse
Nov 06th 2011
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      basically, I don't know how I would process seeing some shit like that.....
Nov 06th 2011
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I'm only a little mad at McQueary
Nov 06th 2011
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      28 year old kid?
Nov 06th 2011
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      28 yo old kid? cmon man
Nov 06th 2011
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      you probably feel like a kid dealing with the other parties
Nov 06th 2011
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           bullshit
Nov 06th 2011
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                damn i aint know it like that. he's gotta fry for that on GP.
Nov 06th 2011
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                     oh he gets fired, just like everyone else
Nov 06th 2011
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      eff all of that, you go the the cops, bottom LINE
Nov 09th 2011
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aren't DC's replaceable?
Nov 06th 2011
166
plus he was already gone by the time of this main incident cited
Nov 06th 2011
167
I don't think it was a matter of covering up Sandusky so much as
Nov 06th 2011
169
yeah, I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around this shit...
Nov 06th 2011
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      it really is the silver medal awful college scandal ever
Nov 06th 2011
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it has nothing to do with that, he wasnt even in the gig
Nov 08th 2011
it has nothing to do with that, he wasnt even in the gig
Nov 08th 2011
291
Paterno releases statement...
Nov 06th 2011
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Penn State Board of Trustees meeting right now
Nov 06th 2011
174
Petitions are circulating right now to have Spanier and Curley fired
Nov 06th 2011
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      I think Paterno has to have some accountability in this also, as far as....
Nov 06th 2011
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           I also wonder how Sandusky's sons are handling this, one of them...
Nov 06th 2011
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                My youngest brother played for his son E.J.
Nov 06th 2011
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                     I refuse to consume any psu football until someone gets fired
Nov 06th 2011
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As recently as 2009 Sandusky was running an overnight camp for kids...
Nov 06th 2011
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wauw.
Nov 06th 2011
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make it stop
Nov 06th 2011
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really want them to slap a conspiracy charge on someone at psu
Nov 06th 2011
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yo this is seriously one of the most unreal, disgusting situations
Nov 06th 2011
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unbelievable.
Nov 07th 2011
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I kind of think I'm over college football.
Nov 07th 2011
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PSU officials resign
Nov 07th 2011
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nah, Joe cant slide on this, this was not a 'procedural' type of offense
Nov 07th 2011
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not enough. spanier and paterno too
Nov 07th 2011
198
did they overlook kid raping....for football?
Nov 07th 2011
it's funny you mention church, this silence seems like some old-school
Nov 07th 2011
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Power is power.
Nov 07th 2011
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basically. fuck OSU, SC, etc. this is priest-ish, both in how it went
Nov 07th 2011
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i don't think this was about football...certainly not wins and losses
Nov 07th 2011
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did they overlook kid raping....for football?
Nov 07th 2011
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Again, they need to clean house - including Joe Pa
Nov 07th 2011
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i agree. My tax dollars subsidize these 6 figure salaries and they do t...
Nov 07th 2011
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this dude was overseeing campus police and covering up molestation
Nov 07th 2011
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      I agree, he was the vp of finance too? Who knows who's been paid off...
Nov 07th 2011
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WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nov 07th 2011
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Great post from Spencer Hall (EDSBS) calling for resignations (SWIPE)
Nov 07th 2011
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I'm literally have trouble processing what PSU officials did
Nov 07th 2011
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bob ford has a great article on philly.com about psu's culture
Nov 07th 2011
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If the catholic church does it to protect the "sanctity" of their...
Nov 07th 2011
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The catholic church kinda has enough power to get away with it...
Nov 07th 2011
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      maybe by the fact they'd done so for two decades until yesterday?
Nov 07th 2011
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      I think you underestimate how powerful some of these coaches...
Nov 07th 2011
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           yup
Nov 07th 2011
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           I can attest to that...
Nov 07th 2011
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           head coach, yeah. a DC though? more important than the school pres?
Nov 07th 2011
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                Paterno certainly was, which is why his failure to act is unforgiveable
Nov 07th 2011
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                     before joe pa passed the buck it was about Sandusky only
Nov 07th 2011
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                          So are you saying Sandusky had some sort of dirt
Nov 07th 2011
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                          i dont see it any other way
Nov 07th 2011
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                               i wish this didn't make so much sense.
Nov 07th 2011
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                               Just the fact that McQueary and JoePa knew since at least 02
Nov 08th 2011
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                          I get that, Im sayin Joe was powerful enough to bury or raise this thing
Nov 07th 2011
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           Good point.
Nov 07th 2011
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Drew over at Deadspin had a great post on the "institutional mindset" to...
Nov 07th 2011
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      Great article
Nov 08th 2011
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now it makes sense as to why
Nov 07th 2011
202
just read part of the indictment...jesus
Nov 07th 2011
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What blows my mind is how easily this could have been solved.
Nov 07th 2011
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well at the time of the 2002 incident he was "retired" but there's no...
Nov 07th 2011
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      yeah, that the wild (?) thing about this
Nov 07th 2011
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This is one of those reminders of how fucked up the world really is
Nov 07th 2011
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RE: State Pen coach indicted on felony charges sex crimes against minors
Nov 07th 2011
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that's one of the sickest thing, he started a foundation for
Nov 07th 2011
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RE: that's one of the sickest thing, he started a foundation for
Nov 07th 2011
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Yep, plus kids without fathers are probably confused about what is...
Nov 07th 2011
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power is an awe-inspiring thing.
Nov 07th 2011
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Think about how he met these kids.
Nov 07th 2011
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Why is Joe Pa still employed?
Nov 07th 2011
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no idea but that needs to end immediately, FUCK JOE PA
Nov 07th 2011
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here's a link to the grand jury's full indictment:
Nov 07th 2011
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I couldn't get through this
Nov 07th 2011
225
yea, ill pass on the gory details
Nov 07th 2011
226
Me neither.
Nov 07th 2011
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my GOD.
Nov 07th 2011
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i read the whole thing. i don't even have words to describe how
Nov 07th 2011
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i had to stop. will read in its entirety just to be informed
Nov 08th 2011
341
Wow, brutal in most cases, creepy in all. Cops complicit here, too
Nov 08th 2011
292
Has Lavar Arrington or any other former PSU players commented yet?
Nov 07th 2011
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Lavar addressing it today at 4 PM on his radio show
Nov 07th 2011
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RE: Has Lavar Arrington or any other former PSU players commented yet?
Nov 07th 2011
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      he coulda kept that.
Nov 07th 2011
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           It's real, you gotta understand that this dude was probably like a...
Nov 07th 2011
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                right, which is why he shoulda kept it.
Nov 07th 2011
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                     eh, I feel that's about as mature a response as can be expected
Nov 07th 2011
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                     I disagree, I think it would be interesting to hear what Sandusky's...
Nov 07th 2011
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so the first victim in the indictment was YEARS after the shower
Nov 07th 2011
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apparently the first REPORTED incident was 98 and he "retired"...
Nov 07th 2011
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      jesus
Nov 07th 2011
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           1 dude who saw a shower rape damn-nearly had a heart attack.
Nov 07th 2011
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           For the record, I agree with you but....
Nov 07th 2011
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                yeah, i almost made an addendum to this effect
Nov 07th 2011
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Sandusky worked out in the PSU weight room several times last week
Nov 07th 2011
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RE: Sandusky worked out in the PSU weight room several times last week
Nov 07th 2011
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Dickhead also met with media yesterday in a PSU jacket
Nov 07th 2011
237
smh
Nov 07th 2011
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was McCreary spotting him?
Nov 07th 2011
251
Mike Francesa is killin
Nov 07th 2011
249
he just mentioned DA who declined to prosecute yrs back coming up missi...
Nov 07th 2011
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      yeah i was listening to that too
Nov 07th 2011
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SMH at Mike Missanelli copping pleas for JoePa
Nov 07th 2011
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sounds like former players didn't even know about the first
Nov 07th 2011
252
hearing lavar on 106.7...
Nov 07th 2011
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      summarize?
Nov 07th 2011
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           RE: summarize?
Nov 07th 2011
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I read that Grand Jury Indictment and just wow
Nov 07th 2011
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yeah, that's the crazy part, this wasn't some low-level creep just lurin...
Nov 07th 2011
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exactly. and fuck kinda response is 'just don't come HERE anymore
Nov 07th 2011
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I completely agree with everything you just typed
Nov 07th 2011
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except baylor, but otherwise agreed
Nov 07th 2011
266
Exactly, this guy was out in the open for everyone to see
Nov 07th 2011
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I disagree with this part
Nov 07th 2011
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I agree and disagree with this part in regards to Sandusky
Nov 07th 2011
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      actually, knowing someone is great cover
Nov 08th 2011
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           At the earliest Joe had to know by 1998 when police
Nov 08th 2011
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                oh yeah, not defending Paterno's laissez faire approach
Nov 08th 2011
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No. Much of that makes sense in the context of a man
Nov 07th 2011
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      You are right and I should have expanded on that thought
Nov 07th 2011
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the more details that come out, the sicker i get.
Nov 07th 2011
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At this point
Nov 07th 2011
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      i know he's out on bail but his family might wanna be on suicide watch
Nov 07th 2011
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           he should kill himself, that would be more mercy than he deserves
Nov 07th 2011
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           im just waiting to hear about joe pa passing from a heart attack
Nov 07th 2011
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                he already looks incredibly weary and tired all the time
Nov 07th 2011
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sad.
Nov 07th 2011
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yup
Nov 07th 2011
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why isnt this bigger news?
Nov 07th 2011
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I don't know how it's playing nationally but in PA it's HUGE news
Nov 07th 2011
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i guess i expected casey anthony level coverage
Nov 08th 2011
300
I initially thought that University staff weren't mandatory
Nov 07th 2011
284
If it somehow comes out that the "missing" DA is somehow tied...
Nov 07th 2011
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killing sandusky wouldve been the most reasonable choice
Nov 07th 2011
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      This entire thing is so bizarre and unbelievable to begin with...
Nov 07th 2011
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           seriously, they could come out tomorrow & say Paterno participated
Nov 08th 2011
293
Are they seriously going to pretend this isn't happening?
Nov 07th 2011
287
does Howard Stern still send rogue reporters in to press conferences?
Nov 08th 2011
294
the definitive radio interview on this: francesca with former beat repor...
Nov 08th 2011
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calm rational ESPN reporting (swipe)
Nov 08th 2011
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no offense, but I don't really give a shit how Penn Staters feel
Nov 08th 2011
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      what real issue? justice is about to be served
Nov 08th 2011
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           motherfucker, justice will NEVER be served
Nov 08th 2011
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           they're about to make serious bank too in a civil suit/settlement
Nov 08th 2011
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           HOW THE KIDS F*CKING FEEL.
Nov 08th 2011
347
Not many people hate PSU more than me...
Nov 08th 2011
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Front Page of Harrisburg Patriot-News calls for Spanier, Paterno out
Nov 08th 2011
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i find it disturbing that sandusky still gets the 'legend' tag
Nov 08th 2011
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that should be printed and posted as picket signs throughout Central PA....
Nov 08th 2011
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Joe Pa needs to call it quits today.
Nov 08th 2011
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at minimum he needs to address it head on.
Nov 08th 2011
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No, the minimum is quitting right now.
Nov 08th 2011
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      sure you're right, but I mean just at the presser specifically
Nov 08th 2011
307
PSU alum here @ work says he will resign today
Nov 08th 2011
309
      Gotta be why they canceled the press concerence
Nov 08th 2011
312
Put Joe in jail too... let them all pay for this shit
Nov 08th 2011
305
HOl UP CUZZ..Sandusky brought a kid to a 07 closed practice??!!!
Nov 08th 2011
308
he held a kids camp ON CAMPUS in 2009
Nov 08th 2011
310
      yeah i heard that too..DOUBLE WOW is all i can say
Nov 08th 2011
313
damn anybody watching Matt Millen breaking down on Sportscenter?
Nov 08th 2011
314
And today's presser is cancelled...
Nov 08th 2011
315
i believe paterno actually wanted to do the press conference
Nov 08th 2011
320
      Civil Suit
Nov 08th 2011
330
NYT reporting they are working his way out as coach
Nov 08th 2011
316
Wetzel ethers Spanier:
Nov 08th 2011
317
IS ANYBODY WATCHIN MATT MILLEN ON ESPN? WOW
Nov 08th 2011
318
Cmon, he's going through it right now; dude broke down 20 mins ago
Nov 08th 2011
321
already posted
Nov 08th 2011
319
Count is up to NINE (swipe)
Nov 08th 2011
322
We'll never know how many there were...
Nov 08th 2011
325
this is without hyperbole the shittiest way to go out.
Nov 08th 2011
323
way worse than Woody Hayes, who is considered the standard
Nov 08th 2011
340
      no comparison.
Nov 08th 2011
342
           what a maroon
Nov 08th 2011
344
lucky that other shit got locked before i could respond
Nov 08th 2011
326
oh you mean let the courts throw eryone in the slammer??
Nov 08th 2011
329
3 dudes are going to jail. and they will probably get heavy sentences
Nov 08th 2011
332
lucky for who? u for not continuing to look like a dumbass on the issue?
Nov 08th 2011
333
i'll be the dumbass and let yall continue with the public lynching
Nov 08th 2011
335
      ^^^ enabler
Nov 08th 2011
337
      BITCH I'LL LYNCH ANYBODY THAT CONSPIRES TO PROTECT CHILD RAPISTS
Nov 08th 2011
346
           i'm speaking SPECIFICALLY about joepa
Nov 08th 2011
407
                he definitely knew, it's just a matter of why he didn't do more
Nov 08th 2011
417
                     he committed a crime here to me whether punishable by law or not
Nov 08th 2011
442
JoePa testified he knew.
Nov 08th 2011
345
      That is giving him the benefit of doubt
Nov 08th 2011
367
      agree. Make's SPM's stance more laughable.
Nov 08th 2011
373
      why isn't he being prosecuted then?
Nov 08th 2011
408
           b/c right now the DA is really going after people who lied during testim...
Nov 09th 2011
533
also not sure it was posted in here. but the original DA was murdered
Nov 08th 2011
327
it was several years after the original decision not to file charges
Nov 08th 2011
334
this fucking school president...
Nov 08th 2011
348
this isn't locking the barn door after the horses ran out
Nov 08th 2011
350
god damn, spanier!
Nov 08th 2011
352
ah yes, a review of policies and procedures will do the trick
Nov 08th 2011
359
A disgusting example of institutional control and power
Nov 08th 2011
349
^^ yup, pretty open + shut to me
Nov 08th 2011
355
and that mandate was ignored by sandusky
Nov 08th 2011
361
      Yep and the people who placed that mandate on him
Nov 08th 2011
383
WFAN reporting that joe pa is headed to practice today
Nov 08th 2011
353
he could be going to inform players of his resignation
Nov 08th 2011
354
      man this dude aint quittin theyre gonna have to can his stubborn old ass
Nov 08th 2011
356
      not according to kim jones who interviewed the family
Nov 08th 2011
357
      reports from his home this morning said he was planning to coach
Nov 08th 2011
358
           Nah, he's done
Nov 08th 2011
360
                i'm just relaying joe's purported state of mind right now
Nov 08th 2011
362
                     they won't allow him to hold his weekly press conference
Nov 08th 2011
365
                          dude, WE know he's done
Nov 08th 2011
366
                               dude's reading comprehension...
Nov 08th 2011
368
                                    contrarian MFers
Nov 08th 2011
372
                                         fuck Penn State, get fucked in State Pen...
Nov 08th 2011
377
                                         Everyone knows he's done, that is why he needs to go now
Nov 08th 2011
382
                                              compared to the media circus
Nov 08th 2011
386
                                                   that almost made sense to me for a second but nah, fire him immediately
Nov 08th 2011
389
                                                   This media circus is following Joe wherever he goes
Nov 08th 2011
390
                                                        joe WANTS to talk...he can't because PSU has him on a gag order
Nov 08th 2011
401
                                                             wrongful termination
Nov 08th 2011
423
                                                             Yeah Penn State is going to be paying out a lot of money
Nov 08th 2011
426
                                                             this would be about the weakest case that could come out of this.
Nov 09th 2011
547
                                                             Exactly, hence my comment about football acting as protection
Nov 08th 2011
425
wow... this is incredible...
Nov 08th 2011
363
would i be going overboard if i said that this is OJ level big?
Nov 08th 2011
364
Yes, you would be going overboard.
Nov 08th 2011
369
RE: Yes, you would be going overboard.
Nov 08th 2011
371
RE: Yes, you would be going overboard.
Nov 08th 2011
374
to me it's bigger.
Nov 08th 2011
370
RE: to me it's bigger.
Nov 08th 2011
376
it should be MUCH bigger than OJ
Nov 08th 2011
379
except it wasnt isolated, oj went rambo on hoes on the regular
Nov 09th 2011
509
I believe it is bigger than OJ
Nov 08th 2011
378
in pop culture no, but in sports circles.yes.
Nov 08th 2011
381
the racial component to O.J. was much bigger
Nov 08th 2011
397
      good point
Nov 08th 2011
403
      yea they paused class for us to watch the verdict then class dismissed
Nov 08th 2011
409
           I am sure Nancy Grace will be all over this
Nov 08th 2011
427
This is the saddest damn sports story in a long time
Nov 08th 2011
375
Seriously.
Nov 08th 2011
380
easily.....
Nov 08th 2011
384
fuck corrupt ass NCAAs, they had it coming
Nov 08th 2011
385
      power corrupts.
Nov 08th 2011
388
      Sorry but this is such a lame ass copout
Nov 08th 2011
391
      Yup, dude has had an axe to grind with college sports though
Nov 08th 2011
392
      I agree with you
Nov 08th 2011
393
      I agree, this really has little to do with football and more to do with....
Nov 08th 2011
394
      yeah, i don't want to see that
Nov 08th 2011
402
           yeah, like I said below in post #398, that program is going to suffer...
Nov 08th 2011
420
      it was an anomoly, but it was borne out of a culture of corruption
Nov 08th 2011
399
      it's all driven by MONEY. When the assistant met with the AD they
Nov 08th 2011
411
Where the hell was Chris Hansen when you needed him?
Nov 08th 2011
387
Honestly, that's a good question...we can catch regular people that
Nov 08th 2011
395
overwhelming majority of incidents go unpunished but here ...
Nov 08th 2011
418
Where does PSU go from here? like tomorrow?
Nov 08th 2011
396
Yeah, that program is pretty much fucked for a while either way...
Nov 08th 2011
398
      They already have recruits backing out
Nov 08th 2011
437
      I can't imagine being a coach and trying to get players to pretend
Nov 08th 2011
450
Sandusky needs to be thrown in gen pop..so he can see how it feels
Nov 08th 2011
400
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Nov 08th 2011
413
yeah i guess pedophilia is pretty much a death sentence in the pen.
Nov 08th 2011
430
Sandusky has six adopted kids and numerous foster children
Nov 08th 2011
404
according to documents, sandusky's wife contacted one of the victims
Nov 08th 2011
405
      it just doesn't end...
Nov 08th 2011
406
I hope Joe Paterno is forever remembered as the man
Nov 08th 2011
410
smh.
Nov 08th 2011
412
why do small-minded scapegoating like that?
Nov 08th 2011
415
      But JoePa basically runs the PSU athletic department
Nov 08th 2011
428
      *shrug* well then get your scapegoating on, player
Nov 08th 2011
431
      I was certainly not arguing JoePa should take the blame
Nov 08th 2011
493
PSU Board of Trustees To Meet TONITE? (swipe)
Nov 08th 2011
414
The Governor was on the board of trustees
Nov 08th 2011
421
      He was AG before Gov. His office started the current investigation.
Nov 08th 2011
422
      Hey, if they can pin something on Corbett I'd be happy
Nov 08th 2011
439
      He's an ex officio member, which means
Nov 08th 2011
486
Victims Double In Penn State Case (swipe)
Nov 08th 2011
416
not surprising. i'm guessing the final reported number is way higher
Nov 08th 2011
419
      like I've been saying, this is probably not something he just started...
Nov 08th 2011
424
I'm going to say one thing in defense of paterno
Nov 08th 2011
429
Everything you just typed is exactly WHY I have a hard time believing...
Nov 08th 2011
432
i agree. i think he knew since 1998 and that's why sandusky retired
Nov 08th 2011
436
      so what's the appropriate response?
Nov 08th 2011
441
      i don't know. maybe the appropriate response is what we're all doing
Nov 08th 2011
445
      I could maybe see your point of view if this was an isolated incident..
Nov 08th 2011
443
      I'm the opposite of a moralist in almost any context EXCEPT RAPING KIDS
Nov 08th 2011
461
      I see where you're coming from
Nov 08th 2011
477
           There are excuses for some things...
Nov 09th 2011
514
                the saddest part about molestation to me
Nov 09th 2011
638
but this wasn't only up to Paterno
Nov 08th 2011
433
i agree, but paterno ruled the school
Nov 08th 2011
438
Shells
Nov 08th 2011
434
agreed.
Nov 08th 2011
440
the fact that it kept going on erases any of that sentiment though
Nov 08th 2011
446
the fact that it kept going on erases any of that sentiment though
Nov 08th 2011
447
not that this is necessary, but....
Nov 08th 2011
496
this was not his actual *brother*, though
Nov 09th 2011
504
if it was MY brother, friend, son, I'd call the cops and tell 'em hurry
Nov 09th 2011
609
I'm not surprised that, if JoePa knew(and I believe he did)
Nov 08th 2011
435
Paterno speaks...and the bar of insanity is raised another notch
Nov 08th 2011
444
...but ANYWAY
Nov 08th 2011
448
or ever
Nov 08th 2011
449
      board of trustees is meeting right now. he won't survive the week
Nov 08th 2011
452
           yeah, no way he's on the sidelines this sat
Nov 08th 2011
454
                i'm going to indulge in one fan comment here
Nov 08th 2011
456
Bless his old ass heart. SMH
Nov 08th 2011
451
sick
Nov 08th 2011
453
wtf
Nov 08th 2011
455
don't know what kind of reaction ppl were expecting......
Nov 08th 2011
459
perhaps something a bit more subdued/somber/respectful?
Nov 08th 2011
460
      Pretty much.
Nov 08th 2011
462
      PSU's lunatic fringe celebrating child ass rape?
Nov 08th 2011
466
      in fairness I could almost surely see some Ohio Steak fans doin the same
Nov 08th 2011
468
           every fan base has their lunatic fringe
Nov 08th 2011
474
           And USC fans, and Texas Fans, and Alabama fans and...
Nov 08th 2011
479
           im actually quite confident he'd have 0 supporters in the same situation
Nov 09th 2011
525
      the media is lynching joepa right now. not surprised by PSU fan reaction
Nov 08th 2011
467
           Like covering up child rape?
Nov 08th 2011
472
           the video suggests you need evidence than what ya got
Nov 08th 2011
476
           from the guy that went batshit over tressel covering up tattoos
Nov 08th 2011
480
                not sure if u responded to the wrong person or what. i barely went
Nov 08th 2011
487
that was appalling
Nov 08th 2011
492
WOW. That was the most incoherent, insensitive bunch of drivel
Nov 08th 2011
499
This is like a horrible nightmare you can't wake up from. As a PSU
Nov 08th 2011
457
i hope they give these kids another senior day next year
Nov 08th 2011
458
      I hope they give the *actual* kids their childhood/anal virginities back
Nov 08th 2011
463
           don't be a dick
Nov 08th 2011
464
           don't think of it as antagonizing u or any PSU fan, it ain't about that
Nov 08th 2011
482
           RE: I hope they give the *actual* kids their childhood/anal virginities ...
Nov 08th 2011
470
           I'll let you know when I'm tryin' to be funny n/m
Nov 08th 2011
483
                I laughed at the 'thanks for sharing' in the other thread
Nov 08th 2011
484
           Like Shells said, no need to be a dick. You know damn well we
Nov 08th 2011
478
                I do kno that & I realize there's shrapnel but fuck Penn State right now
Nov 08th 2011
485
Currently 1,000 Student outside of Old Main chanting Fire Spanier
Nov 08th 2011
465
The Board of Trustees...formed a committee. I'm not kidding *swipe*
Nov 08th 2011
469
i'm so ashamed. i'm just so ashamed.
Nov 08th 2011
471
Even worse...they announced that they are PLANNING to form a committee
Nov 08th 2011
473
"we fired spanier and paterno" <-only thing anyone wants to hear
Nov 08th 2011
475
paterno won't coach next yr.
Nov 08th 2011
481
There should be nothing "graceful" about his transition into
Nov 08th 2011
497
Fuck Penn State as a Staff/Team, Academic Institution & as a Fuckin Crew
Nov 08th 2011
489
LET GO. IT'S OVER.
Nov 08th 2011
490
A COMMITTEE!?!!?!?!?!? WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK!?!?!?
Nov 09th 2011
511
Anybody in the 717 get a call from some major news outlets? I just
Nov 08th 2011
488
Wow really?
Nov 09th 2011
507
Nope, I didn't get one.
Nov 09th 2011
512
RE: State Pen coach indicted on felony charges sex crimes against minors
Nov 08th 2011
491
This is why I don't find fault with Mike
Nov 08th 2011
494
fuck that...find a new career path
Nov 09th 2011
523
      yea at the end of the day being the best WR coach/recruiter in football
Nov 09th 2011
551
That, really, is still the most shocking thing
Nov 08th 2011
495
well, to be accurate- they definitely care...
Nov 09th 2011
636
This shit is 100% true but you already know they won't go after these...
Nov 09th 2011
501
      it'd be a whole different kinda 'pep' & 'rally' on John Chaney's lawn
Nov 09th 2011
503
      ^^^^^real talk
Nov 09th 2011
515
      ^^^ word. they had ni&&as on tv trying to analyze his 'remorse'.
Nov 09th 2011
516
           Right, that shit pissed me off, they wanted so see Vick on TV broken...
Nov 09th 2011
518
More than a thousand rioters surrounding the JoePa statue
Nov 08th 2011
498
psu student tweeted it's not a riot, it's an idiot convention
Nov 08th 2011
500
      That's good
Nov 09th 2011
502
40 counts of felony.
Nov 09th 2011
505
If Baylor didn't get it,PSU won't
Nov 09th 2011
536
40 counts of felony.
Nov 09th 2011
506
For SPM & co. - remember 2007 when joe made the team clean the stadium?
Nov 09th 2011
508
that puts things in a bit of perspective regarding JoePa
Nov 09th 2011
623
This shit has so many points of moral failure ...it is just insane
Nov 09th 2011
510
*The janitors - failed!( concerned about their jobs)* more to this story
Nov 09th 2011
513
Yeah, I thought this part was some sinister ass shit right here...
Nov 09th 2011
517
RE: This shit has so many points of moral failure ...it is just insane
Nov 09th 2011
519
True, I'm not sure how people like that can be "cured" or rehabilitated....
Nov 09th 2011
520
The janitor wasn't worried about his "job" he was worried about his fami...
Nov 09th 2011
552
Horrible story. Hope it becomes a cautionary one.
Nov 09th 2011
521
Joe Pa puttin his foot in his mouth already..talkin bout
Nov 09th 2011
522
wait, he's praying for the kids he allowed to be raped?
Nov 09th 2011
524
      i bet joe pa wouldnt leave his grandkid in a room with sandusky alone
Nov 09th 2011
526
           "Remember little Jay, never sit on Uncle Jerry's lap!"
Nov 09th 2011
527
                LOL
Nov 09th 2011
528
AP reporting that JoePa agrees to retire at season's end
Nov 09th 2011
529
This is what I expected to happen
Nov 09th 2011
530
Why bother having him stay the rest of the season?
Nov 09th 2011
531
it's about what joe wants...plain and simple
Nov 09th 2011
534
what a selfish, selfish fool
Nov 09th 2011
532
joe is in heavy denial right now...anything to deflect this shit
Nov 09th 2011
535
Seriously, could u play for this dude after this??
Nov 09th 2011
537
thats what i'm thinkin..what do the current players REALLY think?
Nov 09th 2011
538
LOL, not to make light but this made me think of high school
Nov 09th 2011
539
LMAO
Nov 09th 2011
540
      i wouldnt put it pass him with his all access VIP pass he had
Nov 09th 2011
546
           RE: i wouldnt put it pass him with his all access VIP pass he had
Nov 09th 2011
548
                oh youre right.i guess ..not many virgins in that bunch i'm sure
Nov 09th 2011
553
I'm sure a lot them are playing for a shot at the NFL and not...
Nov 09th 2011
543
it's gonna be a LONG two months for Paterno
Nov 09th 2011
541
you'd think the Big 10/NCAA could intervene here
Nov 09th 2011
542
Fuck Paterno, the kids and clean coaches are who will suffer
Nov 09th 2011
545
      Can you imagine the Parade of Roses if they made it?
Nov 09th 2011
549
      I'm saying.
Nov 09th 2011
550
           I doubt he does it himself
Nov 09th 2011
566
           i mean, he wants to go to columbus
Nov 09th 2011
570
                and yall go to madison the week after, correct?
Nov 09th 2011
588
                     I can't wait to see some of the signs the crowds come up
Nov 09th 2011
624
*sighs*
Nov 09th 2011
544
reportedly he didn't consult the board. this statement means nothing.
Nov 09th 2011
554
and the other option is...what exactly
Nov 09th 2011
555
YeahNO
Nov 09th 2011
556
and the other option is...what exactly
Nov 09th 2011
557
      dude's the face and he's culpable and he's got to go
Nov 09th 2011
560
           if they have to cancel the season so be it
Nov 09th 2011
564
                and you think the $$NCAA$$ would let that happen
Nov 09th 2011
569
                     you really don't seem to understand what's happened here
Nov 09th 2011
573
                          what's happening here
Nov 09th 2011
584
                               firing him is step 1
Nov 09th 2011
589
                                    crazy how both those things can be true.
Nov 09th 2011
598
                                         a lot of it is damage control
Nov 09th 2011
600
                                              that'd be funny if he was on some 'SIKE! I WAS JUST PLAYIN'
Nov 09th 2011
602
Figure heads work both ways
Nov 09th 2011
559
and those guys knew Sandusky too
Nov 09th 2011
563
      WHO GIVES A SHIT? smh
Nov 09th 2011
568
      They had no authority over Sandusky and this is about 1.5 months
Nov 09th 2011
574
           apparently he's concerned they'll have to answer questions
Nov 09th 2011
590
                SHUT IT DOWN, NOW
Nov 09th 2011
594
                     there is such thing as a happy medium
Nov 09th 2011
603
                          and go on the road next week to OSU
Nov 09th 2011
605
                               ain't nobody at OSU give a fuck about galen hall
Nov 09th 2011
649
                                    RE: ain't nobody at OSU give a fuck about galen hall
Nov 09th 2011
661
Gutting the staff is the BEST look for them right now...
Nov 09th 2011
561
the university needs to do something drastic.
Nov 09th 2011
571
yeah, you're right
Nov 09th 2011
576
      i've asked the same thing.
Nov 09th 2011
581
           It seems like another glaring omission
Nov 09th 2011
                this is so much sicker than free tattoos.
Nov 09th 2011
595
                NCAA doesnt have jurisidiction per one of their talking heads
Nov 09th 2011
601
people are being idiots dude. it's a witchhunt at this point
Nov 09th 2011
610
      lol
Nov 09th 2011
617
      I'm not sure you know what witchhunt means then.
Nov 09th 2011
667
silly old man..he doesn't realize he wont coach saturday..
Nov 09th 2011
558
what makes you so sure? the old man seems to be calling his shot
Nov 09th 2011
639
called it.
Nov 09th 2011
607
who thinks it's coincidental it comes down right after he passed eddie
Nov 09th 2011
562
RE: who thinks it's coincidental it comes down right after he passed edd...
Nov 09th 2011
565
i do. it was a state investigation months in the making.
Nov 09th 2011
567
counter-edit
Nov 09th 2011
572
      why wouldn't they wait till offseason?
Nov 09th 2011
575
      yeah that's hard to answer.
Nov 09th 2011
577
           these dudes are a mess, though
Nov 09th 2011
580
      lol, these dudes can't release a statement the right way
Nov 09th 2011
578
           it wouldn't take a vast conspiracy to slow up an indictment tho
Nov 09th 2011
582
That was one of the first things I thought about
Nov 09th 2011
614
Westboro Baptist Church to protest Saturday
Nov 09th 2011
579
holy shit this is the first time i've agreed with one of their protest l...
Nov 09th 2011
583
Is this their first protest away from a cemetary??
Nov 09th 2011
586
Far from
Nov 09th 2011
591
      God bless em
Nov 09th 2011
592
           Well, Fred Phelps is okay with child and spouse abuse
Nov 09th 2011
596
                yeah that's a good read. tough tho.
Nov 09th 2011
599
Still...they are walking into a snake pit. A drunken hillbilly snakepit.
Nov 09th 2011
587
      could be a bonus.
Nov 09th 2011
604
This is the best possible outcome
Nov 09th 2011
593
Sandusky was on the damn campus last week working out
Nov 09th 2011
597
Spanier out TODAY (swipe)
Nov 09th 2011
606
On Paterno keeping his gig til season's end.
Nov 09th 2011
608
He earned the right to make this call by not making the right call b4?
Nov 09th 2011
611
:(. this kind of thinking is the whole reason this happened!
Nov 09th 2011
612
How the FUCK is that how this happened?
Nov 09th 2011
642
      no person should be above an institution
Nov 09th 2011
645
           ^^^^
Nov 09th 2011
657
           Brilliantly put.
Nov 09th 2011
658
           you haven't been paying attention
Nov 09th 2011
662
not to mention him staying gives the impression he did nothing wrong
Nov 09th 2011
613
      just found out from where? Link?
Nov 09th 2011
615
      wasn't Schulz also the campus police director?
Nov 09th 2011
618
           No, he wasn't.
Nov 09th 2011
630
           yeah, that's it.
Nov 09th 2011
633
           No, he wasn't.
Nov 09th 2011
632
      he told the police, the police did nothing, and he didn't follow up.
Nov 09th 2011
616
      him telling school police is a MAJOR detail nobody knew tho. that
Nov 09th 2011
622
      RE: him telling school police is a MAJOR detail nobody knew tho. that
Nov 09th 2011
626
      nice trolling, fella. LOL
Nov 09th 2011
627
      lol
Nov 09th 2011
652
      yeah, go to the damn regular police right away
Nov 09th 2011
625
           yup.
Nov 09th 2011
628
           are there any details on the relationship between JoePa and dude
Nov 09th 2011
629
                LOL
Nov 09th 2011
631
                RE: are there any details on the relationship between JoePa and dude
Nov 09th 2011
634
                     lol
Nov 09th 2011
648
                     in other words...u don't know
Nov 09th 2011
664
                          all u need to know is that sandusky was a known sexual predator
Nov 09th 2011
665
      lol
Nov 09th 2011
619
      you gotta source that shit
Nov 09th 2011
620
           this right here is what deads ANY defense of Joe Pa
Nov 09th 2011
651
This gonna go 10x plat before the mods allow a part 2?
Nov 09th 2011
621
someone started a punishment thread
Nov 09th 2011
635
Page loading isnt the problem
Nov 09th 2011
646
lol..idiot is an understatement.
Nov 09th 2011
640
Penn State's Board of Trustees Email Address:
Nov 09th 2011
641
i just sent an email that read.. GEN-ER-AL POP-U-LA -TION
Nov 09th 2011
647
double
Nov 09th 2011
Spanier has resigned supposedly..BOT to announce it tonight
Nov 09th 2011
643
omg i just read the grand jury inditment i think im gonna be Sick
Nov 09th 2011
644
Meyer a possible Paterno successor?(swipe)
Nov 09th 2011
650
lol, Urb ain't going near this shit
Nov 09th 2011
      if meyer went to PSU
Nov 09th 2011
660
Can We Lock & Archive This When It Hits 666 Replies?
Nov 09th 2011
653
One of the prime examples of how power can warp reality
Nov 09th 2011
654
completely accurate
Nov 09th 2011
666
Everyone employed by Penn State here should be jailed.
Nov 09th 2011
655
jeezus, what the fuck?
Nov 09th 2011
656
we had a thread about it here...i remember it
Nov 09th 2011
659
April? Holy fuck, this just gets worse.
Nov 09th 2011
663

radin
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1. "The Remix To Ignition The Slappy Valley Edition"
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Then Joe Pa pees on em when he's done

  

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2. "Should help recruiting "
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3. "http://deemerscarletletter.wikispaces.com/file/view/CHRIS-HANSEN-Why-don..."
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4. "damn u OSU fuckers are sad, making a joke out of what is some pretty..."
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serious shit, this is where the sports rivalry thing goes way too far

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5. "Uh Penn State isn't a rivalry and their sports programs aren't relevant"
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20. "aren't they undefeated in the big tenwelve?"
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i still blame hip-hop.

  

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23. "only for two more weeks"
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25. "probably only one. we'll probably lose out."
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26. "yeah they aren't winning shit"
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7. "not to mention was barely even there when PSU was in the Big 10"
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Dude's been retired since the Clinton Administration.

OSU generally produces the highest percentage of myopic, troglodyte, beef-bullion-brained fans anywhere.

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8. "LMAO with the self righteous bullshit all of a sudden"
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yeah, dude really took it wayyyyyy too far with this copy/paste job...

your hard-on for all things OSU is getting pretty obvious

  

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10. "a Buckeye booted his sorry ass from his own fantasy football league"
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>
>
>your hard-on for all things OSU is getting pretty obvious

of course he is mad!

  

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12. "careful.he may bring up ross homan & cie grants lack of nfl productivity"
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ZING!

  

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14. "but Cie Grant sure can carry a tune"
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32. "I don't give a fuck about OSU or Penn St either way, and I don't..."
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get how you construe my not understanding of why you were upset about Russell Wilson transferring to Wiscy and me saying I didn't think Urban Meyer would coach at OSU to having a "hard-on for all things OSU" but its already well documented how delusional you guys are so go ahead.

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57. "yes, cause your grasp on reality has been widely accepted here"
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> but its already well documented
>how delusional you guys are so go ahead.

good fall back argument

  

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68. "lol"
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77. "lay off the roids"
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82. "ouch!"
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this is the 3rd time in less than 2 weeks where youre fagging out and taking shots OSU, their fanbase and of course me...

but keep pretending like you aren't taking this incredibly personally.

  

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112. "RE: ouch!"
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>this is the 3rd time in less than 2 weeks where youre fagging
>out and taking shots OSU, their fanbase and of course me...
>
>but keep pretending like you aren't taking this incredibly
>personally.


other than the 2 examples in post #32 I don't know wtf you're talking about and the first thing about Russell didn't really have anything to with OSU directly and the 2nd thing was more about what Urban Myer is going to do next, you're the that takes everything personal and as a slight to the great OSU and acts like a little bitch.

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115. "lol, read your subject title in post 4"
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>other than the 2 examples in post #32 I don't know wtf you're
>talking about and the first thing about Russell didn't really
>have anything to with OSU directly and the 2nd thing was more
>about what Urban Myer

yeah...as if those two 'examples' didn't deteriorate into the same shit. youre a fan of the archives so go look em up. and here we are now for a 3rd time in a *PSU* thread and you're on the same steeze, unprovoked.


>takes everything personal

well hey, when every 'discussion' turns into you throwing personal insults my way (you're 'sad', 'pathetic', 'delusional', 'steroids')...I can only call it how I see it. and thats you getting awfully emotional about stupid shit.

  

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116. "RE: lol, read your subject title in post 4"
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>yeah...as if those two 'examples' didn't deteriorate into the
>same shit.

lol, because that's what YOU made of it, genius

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118. "word"
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>lol, because that's what YOU made of it, genius

i suppose its also my fault that you tried to make this into an OSU thread

  

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40. "yea really sad. if you want to report news than do so. no need to try"
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to make a joke out of shit....especially when you're not funny

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53. "I mean => http://www.wlwt.com/2011/1103/29675467_240X180.jpg"
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what you really expect?

http://www.wlwt.com/2011/1103/29675467_240X180.jpg

LOL
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58. "Hold up Adwizz abandoned Penn State too"
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6. "God damnit. I grew up a penn state fan. lol @ we.are.pedos."
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9. "You're right. This is absolutely something to make jokes about."
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15. "you're right. cause if it happened to an osu coach/player"
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you DEFINITELY wouldnt have post about it.

it'd be a race between u and brown sugar to see who could get to their computer first.

lol.

  

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11. "lol @ all of you getting your panties in a bunch"
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cry about it

  

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13. "you're right. we should definitely joke about pedophilia."
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lol.

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16. "Our ex coaches lie to cover up past player's mistakes"
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your ex coach tried to lie under the covers with underage boys

I'd be upset too.
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18. "lol. this is why no one likes your thug fanbase"
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there's a line that everyone else gets and you guys don't.

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19. "Yes, bc Penn State fans are the epitome of class."
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>there's a line that everyone else gets and you guys don't.

lol get the fuck outta here with that bullshit, and fuck that ivory tower you post from too.
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22. "do we make pedophilia jokes? no? then we're not in your "class""
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27. ">then we're not in your "class""
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this I can agree with, esp when it comes to athletics.




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21. "Wait a damn second"
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Weren't you the guy that posted about the random guy with the ohio state sweatshirt in the kids library that Carl Monday exposed. That post went platinum for the record.

If I've ever heard of the pot calling the kettle black!!

  

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24. "no"
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85. "^^^^^ exactly"
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no class. trash. the osu way.

<-- BAUGH SO HARD

  

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17. "why you worked up, is Roman Polanski also a Miami Hurricanes fan?"
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28. "I don't get the miami references...nm"
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30. "He's a die-hard Miami sports fan that only claimed the Heat for one year"
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29. "wait we can't mock people who touch kids now?"
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that's not worthy of public shame and disgrace?

i'm confused.

i still blame hip-hop.

  

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31. "It's an agenda front from the same clowns w/ DVR set for Dateline NBC"
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33. "I'm not morally offended by pedo jokes, just takes skill to pull em off"
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for example your reply in that Michael Jackson/Rattner water-ballon post in GD today worked.

But the Beef Bouillabaisse Knights of Columbus kinda miss the mark here for a variety of reasons not the least of which is seeming gleeful despite the alleged depravity because it's some something a coach did that Tressel didn't get an email about (nevermind that it's an assistant who hasn't worked at Penn State since the 90s), wanting to make it a post about their football team out of anger or jockeying for position on some 'Linebacker U' imaginary title that SC long ago took from either one of them & lastly encouraging radin to try being funny.

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42. "fair enough, was just confused by the moral posturing"
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i wasn't even really joking in that ratner post...

i mean dude wanted people to be furious that MJ threw water balloons. that made no sense to me.

i still blame hip-hop.

  

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49. "oh I know you weren't but it was funny because of the truthiness"
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>i wasn't even really joking in that ratner post...
>
>i mean dude wanted people to be furious that MJ threw water
>balloons. that made no sense to me.

like that story was going to be the tipping point for diehards.

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44. "long response for someone who supposedly doesnt care for either school "
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(nevermind that it's an assistant who hasn't worked at
>Penn State since the 90s)


its actually a coach considered to be a legend amongst the Penn State faithful..not just "some assistant"

I didn't care to read the rest of that bullshit.

and I'm not sure I have any snark for LaSalle or Lehigh or wherever it was you attended

Congrat's on last nights season changing win though!


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47. "long answer for someone who claims to not have read it"
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but fuck it, I don't have a vested interest & with the additional info PSU deserves to be shit on fully if true.

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149. "ie writing skills "
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60. "PSU fans can dish it out but cant take it"
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this has been going on here for years

from the fanbase that wants to take shots, and then throw piss at the OSU band

when your team sucks the only thing you can claim is moral superiority (see: michgan)...as if any fanbase in major college football can claim such a thing.

  

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79. "And he took it there for the TKO"
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>this has been going on here for years
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>from the fanbase that wants to take shots, and then throw piss
>at the OSU band
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34. "Oh Christ No. Our CURRENT AD is charged with perjury"
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http://abcnews.go.com/m/story?id=14888291


Penn State athletic director Tim Curley and another school administrator were charged with perjury and failure to report in an investigation into allegations that former football defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky sexually abused eight young men, authorities said Saturday.

State prosecutors said Sandusky, 67, of State College, was arrested Saturday. Curley, 57, and Penn State vice president for finance and business Gary Schultz, 62, both of Boalsburg, were expected to turn themselves in Monday in Harrisburg, according to the attorney general's office. Schultz's position includes oversight of the university's police department.

Sandusky, who worked with at-risk children through his Second Mile foundation, was charged with seven counts of involuntary deviate sexual intercourse; eight counts of corruption of minors, eight counts of endangering the welfare of a child, seven counts of indecent assault and other offenses.

Attorney General Linda Kelly called Sandusky "a sexual predator who used his position within the university and community to repeatedly prey on young boys."

A message left on Curley's cell phone was not immediately returned, and a school athletic department spokesman had no immediate comment.

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36. "ok, if this is true, EVERYONE gets fired"
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everyone.

these two ass clowns are obviously gone.

university president?

Gone

Paterno?

Gone

if anyone even thought about covering up for a predator, they need to go to jail.

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38. "so is this stuff that's alleged to have happened while at PSU?"
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and the 'retirement' was akin to a Catholic Church transfer?

Because that changes everything & the school deserves to be fried over this if that's the case.

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41. "as i understand it, one incident in 95, one in 98"
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which, yeah, he was still with us then.

omg, omg, omg.

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45. "shit, if that's the case, Paterno might have to go as well"
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Interested to hear from Lavar now, I read the initial blurb posted & thought this was post-PSU.

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46. "oh, he's gone."
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because he's got the entire university by the nuts, he might be able to coach out the season, but he will not be our coach next year. if it was just sandusky, no problem, but our current AD? look, whatever our AD knew, Joe knew. I'm just being real about that. the prosecutors may not want to charge a legend or an 85 year old man, but whatever they got the AD on, Joe knew. and if he had any inkling that this was going on at any point in the last JESUS CHRIST 17 YEARS and didn't step forward, he needs to be fired right now.

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39. "this is where it gets really gross"
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i still blame hip-hop.

  

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43. "this is where we hold a press conference and fire paterno today"
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like, now now now.

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35. "nevermind..shelly posted it first"
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lol @ Athletic Directors lying and covering up for pedophiles...

stay classy.

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37. "everyone gets fired. the secretaries, the janitors, everyone"
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48. "i'm about to cry"
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50. "Dedicated to Joe Paterno"
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52. "i could almost believe paterno didn't know"
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because, as we all know, the key to a successful program is to make sure the dirt gets done without the head coach knowing, so he has plausible deniability. obviously, we're not talking about dirt here. we're talking something infinitely more heinous...but the logic could still hold, especially for the post 2000 cases when we all know more and more stuff has happened without paterno's knowledge, because he's too old.

but 1994? 1998? man...the old age excuse only goes so far.

at the very least this shows that the system around paterno that's been propping him up is horribly broken and needs to be throw out, and that includes joe, whose age makes all of this necessary.

at worst, the guy who i thought had the most integrity of any public figured i had ever seen, one of my heroes, knowingly covered up for a serial pedophile.

oh my god.

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51. "Oh God (Swipe)"
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http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/11/sandusky_investigation_sources.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Penn State Athletic Director Tim Curley and senior administrator Gary Schultz have been charged with perjury and failure to report a crime during the investigation of former defensive coach Jerry Sandusky.

The information was posted to the state Attorney General's website this morning, as Sandusky was being arraigned on 40 charges related to sex crimes against kids.

Sources also tell The Patriot-News that head coach Joe Paterno will not be charged.

The perjury charges against Curley and Schultz are third-degree felonies, punishable by up to seven years in prison. Failure to report is only a summary offense, like a traffic ticket.

Tim Curley has been athletic director since 1993, and held his post when allegations were reported to Penn State police in 1998.

Schultz retired from his position in 2009, and returned temporarily to the job while a national search was being conducted.

Attorney General Linda Kelly says Curley and Schultz perjured themselves by repeatedly denying, during the grand jury investigation, that they were told about an incident in 2002 that was reported by a graduate football assistant who walked on Sandusky taking a shower with a young boy.

Kelly said, "rather than reporting the matter to law enforcement, Curley and Schultz agreed that Sandusky would be told he could not bring any Second Mile children into the football building. That message was also reportedly related to Dr. John Raykovitz at the Second Mile (Past Executive Director and Executive Vice-President and currently the President and CEO of the Second Mile)," the statement says."

Despite that ban, which was reviewed by Penn State President Graham Spanier, there was no change in Sandusky's status with the school, no changes to his access to campus, and no charges were brought.

As part of his retirement, sources tell the Patriot-News that Sandusky was given a key and an on-campus office.

"The failure of top university officials to act on reports of Sandusky's alleged sexual misconduct, even after it was reported to them in graphic detail by an eyewitness, allowed a predator to walk free for years - continuing to target new victims," Kelly said.

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54. "They need to can and jail EVERYONE"
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Joe's only not going to jail as a favor to the school.
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55. "Rittenberg says Joe reported what he knew"
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http://bwi.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=36&tid=149316235&mid=149316235&sid=890&style=2


By Adam Rittenberg
Penn State athletic director Tim Curley is one of two university officials charged Saturday with felony perjury relating to the sexual abuse allegations against former football assistant coach Jerry Sandusky.

Curley and Gary Schultz, Penn State's senior vice president for finance and business, each are charged with one count of perjury, a third-degree felony punishable by up to seven years in prison, and a $15,000 fine, and one count of failure to report (under the Child Protective Services Law). Both men are scheduled to turn themselves in Monday before Harrisburg Magisterial District Judge Marsha Stewart.

The issue with Curley centers around an alleged sexual assault by Sandusky on a young boy in Penn State's Lasch Football Building in March 2002. Sandusky, who retired from Penn State after the 1999 Alamo Bowl, still had an office in the Lasch building and access to all the facilities.

According to Pennsylvania attorney general Linda Kelly, a Penn State graduate assistant "reportedly observed Sandusky sexually assaulting a naked boy who appeared to be about 10 years old." Kelly said the graduate assistant reported the incident to head coach Joe Paterno, who testified before a grand jury that he immediately called Curley and met with the AD the following day. The graduate assistant then met with Curley and Schultz, where he recounted what he'd seen.

"Despite a powerful eyewitness statement about the sexual assault of a child, this incident was not reported to any law enforcement or child protective agency, as required by Pennsylvania law," Kelly said. "Additionally, there is no indication that anyone from the university ever attempted to learn the identity of the child who was sexually assaulted on their campus or made any follow-up effort to obtain more information from the person who witnessed the attack first-hand."

Kelly said that rather than reporting the matter to law enforcement, Curley and Schultz agreed that Sandusky would be told he could not bring any Second Mile children into the football building. That message was also reportedly related to Dr. John Raykovitz at the Second Mile (Sandusky's charity organization to help children).

"Despite this so-called 'ban', which was reviewed and approved by University President Graham Spanier without any further inquiry on his part, there was no effective change in Sandusky's status with the school and no limits on his access to the campus,” Kelly said.


The grand jury found portions of Curley's and Schultz's testimonies to be not credible. Paterno also reportedly testified before the grand jury this spring, but the coach isn't named in these charges.

"The failure of top university officials to act on reports of Sandusky's alleged sexual misconduct, even after it was reported to them in graphic detail by an eyewitness, allowed a predator to walk free for years - continuing to target new victims," Kelly said. "Equally disturbing is the lack of action and apparent lack of concern among those same officials, and others who received information about this case, who either avoided asking difficult questions or chose to look the other way."


Curley has served as Penn State's athletic director since Dec. 30, 1993. He's one of the more respected ADs in the country and served as president of the National Association of Collegiate Directors of Athletics in 2005-06. He served as an assistant on Paterno's staff along with Sandusky in the late 1970s and early 1980s.

Needless to say, this is a very ugly situation for the entire Penn State athletic program.

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56. "They're all gonna fall for Joe"
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He reported what he knew but NOT to the cops?



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59. "you hear about a criminal charge"
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you report it to your supervisor.

he comes back and tells you it's bullshit.

now, for you and i, that's the end of it, because we roll with what our bosses say.

it's obviously different for a guy of joe's stature, but i feel a lot better knowing he told someone, tried to do something about it.

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61. "If you're a decent person though, you go to the cops, too."
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I don't care if it was my father, if I saw an old man raping a kid, I'm making sure he goes down. You better believe I'm going to call the cops, especially if I know my supervisors aren't doing anything about it.

  

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63. "Well first you shit your pants.... Then you go to the cops"
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71. "lol"
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637. "in all honesty, I can understand how dude froze up in that situation"
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but if you're claim enough to call your dad you gotta go back & save that little boy..

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64. "paterno didn't see anyone raping anyone"
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his grad assistant told him he saw sandusky in the shower with a kid. paterno, following university protocol, sends it up the chain of command for a full investigation. i'm willing to reserve judgement on paterno until more comes out. there could have been a lot of internal debate about how to handle this. if there's no charges, i'm going to hold out hope that paterno acted in a way that wasn't completely heinous.

also, right, he's old. he can't stay up on shit like he used to. so a GA thinks he sees something, he reports it, his AD says it's fine. younger Joe probably doesn't leave it at that, but older joe is used to other people handling a lot of stuff.

that being said, he needs to be done as coach as soon as possible. in 1985 this doesn't happen, because joe has full control of his facilities and deals with this the right way. Joe, however, is not able to do that, which means we get situations like this, where responsibilities are pawned off on others. joe's inability to fully run the program has helped to create this mess.

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65. "I've heard stories from relatives who went to PSU in the 60s and 70s"
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and they told me personal accounts of how visible Joe was on campus and his influence on the players. My aunt told me about a specific incident where he yanked a player out of class and gave him an earful because Joe thought his grades weren't up to par.

Those days are loooooooooong gone. Joe still has a ton of influence, but ultimately not much control due to his physical and mental limitations at this stage in his life.

  

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66. "sigh. then again, as dan wetzel tweets"
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As for JoePa, I'll refrain snap judgement. but I don't know how anyone hears this level of allegation and doesn't go crazy about it

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67. "new article out now says Joe will testify as a prosecution witness"
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69. "That's my point."
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If someone comes to you and says, "Hey, I swear I saw that guy molesting a kid in the shower here," you don't just say, "alright, tell the prez about it and see what he says," then shrug it off. That's huge stuff right there that's happening on your turf. You've got to go to the cops there.

I'm not going to pretend like I know all the facts here because today is the first I've heard of this, but this doesn't look good for him at all.

  

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72. "Maybe I'm slow, but why couldn't that man inform the police?"
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I mean, wasn't he the one who witnessed the incident first-hand? I'm not trying to absolve Joe from any wrong-doing here, I just don't understand why Joe's 2nd hand account would be more significant for police records.

  

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73. "You're right. The witness definitely should have told police."
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He's DEFINITELY more at fault than Joe is.

I'm just saying that Joe, after seeing everyone else refuse to tell the police, should have taken it upon himself to go tell.

  

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78. "I definitely see your point. I'm just really, really disgusted right no..."
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and trying to figure out how something as heinous as this could actually take place. It's mind-boggling to know that people in power took such great steps in keeping this information safely guarded.

This the same AD and group of coaches who kicked Austin Scott off the team/campus for alledgedly beating his gf (was found innocent) yet never bothered to pursue justice with the same diligence for a coach. Truly disgusting.

  

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75. "Even Barry Switzer would called the cops over this shit"
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62. "It's all speculation, but I can't imagine Joe would in any way shape"
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or form willingly acknowledge what was allegely taking place and allow it to continue.

I don't even know what to say at this point. My younger brother played college football for Jerry Sandusky's son. The guy is revered throughout PA and has given an awful lot back to the community through his 2nd Mile program.

If these allegations are true, this man should be sitting in jail for a long while. I don't give a shit how great of a coach or how nice the guy may be, pedophilia is a serious as crime and violators should receive severe consequences. The fact that this is just now coming out is disturbing.

  

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70. "Well yeah, I doubt he was sitting there saying "get those kids, man""
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But he may have heard of the allegations, then just refused to believe them because the coach was his friend. My not believing it and reporting it to the police, he did, in a way, allow it to keep happening.

  

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74. "Kinda puts OSU and the U in perspective."
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Free tats and hookers just don't measure up.

  

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76. "neither does Reggie Bush dicking over a gangbanger & fledgling agency"
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but somehow none of the three will receive the level of NCAA sanctions.

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80. "IDK if the NCAA has a rule for ADs who cover for pedos"
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but it seems like lack of institutional control to me.

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81. "lack of institutional morality? this shit's death-penatly worthy if true"
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87. "i think the ncaa will watch what the board of trustees does"
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if the board does what it should do and cleans house, i think penn state gets off with only a slap on the wrist. this has nothing to do with football or competitiveness.

then again, if the board pulls some BS like spanier did and fails to act, the ncaa will shut the whole thing down. death penalty would be in play.

honestly, right now i think the ncaa is as shocked and appalled as the rest of us and has absolutely no idea how to play this.

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295. "too much $$$ at stake for death penalty"
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ncaa might bully penn state into some things, basically tell them how they want it handled. lots of firings and whatever shakes loose with the (so far) three guys charged. sanctions, hard to say, but death penalty? i don't see that happening.

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84. "it's why you dont play the moral superiority angle"
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when you're dealing with shit you have no control over in a landscape like college football where the very core of it is dirty as shit.

you'd think PSU fans wouldve learned their lesson the first time around after winning the Fulmer cup or after the many accounts of their fans acting like barbaric scumbags at home games.

i hate seeing shit like this go down (truly) but it seems like PSU fans need frequent reminders to permanently stay the fuck off their high horse.

  

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86. "says the guy who played the same angle before Tressell got exposed"
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89. "wrong"
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and ive never harped on anybody's off the field problems with the insane tenacity of the psu/mich/you clowns

  

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90. "nah, you did actually but you get it now n/m"
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105. "no, i actually didnt"
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my official stance was that cheating goes on EVERYWHERE, only that OSU didn't take it to SEC style levels where bags of cash were handed over to recruits in pay for play schemes. no hard evidence to prove that, but OSU being on the losing end of just about every national recruiting battle (hello stanley mcclover) certainly lends some credence to that viewpoint.

i also maintained that in the last 6 or so years, OSU players kept it pretty clean off the field and in the classroom. which as far as the police blotter goes and graduation rates go is true.

the fact that tressel covered up for tats doesn't change my opinion on any of this. and please dont goad me into a rehashed argument on how it really was the most atrocious act in the history of sports...cause ive got football to watch today.

  

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111. "I wouldn't even bother 3X"
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You're trying to argue with someone who's got about as much of an educational connection to college sports as Corky from the show Life Goes On. What's your goal in the end? To make him run in the corner and cry?

  

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123. "oh I ain't even talking about your sour grapes SEC ass-whoopings"
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You popped some moral high ground shit to me directly regarding SC (since they couldn't beat them on the field) & as it turns out Tressell was way shadier than Carroll.

So now that his hoe-card got pulled you've 'evolved' to the same philosophy anyone with sense already had.

Congrats.

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124. "youre in the select minority of complete fools if you think this is true"
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) & as
>it turns out Tressell was way shadier than Carroll.
>
>So now that his hoe-card got pulled you've 'evolved' to the
>same philosophy anyone with sense already had.
>
>Congrats.


reeeeaaach.

  

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125. "lol, okay"
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126. "ain't nothin changed but feel free to paint the picture however u want"
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>So now that his hoe-card got pulled you've 'evolved' to the
>same philosophy anyone with sense already had.
>
>Congrats.

  

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127. "k."
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88. "it's silly to even compare this to any other case"
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the only thing this is similar to is the baylor basketball case.

i mean, if it makes the rest of you feel good about your cheating, laugh it up, but the fact is this is SO much worse that you only seem silly even bringing the other shit up.

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91. "Please."
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>the only thing this is similar to is the baylor basketball
>case.
>
>i mean, if it makes the rest of you feel good about your
>cheating, laugh it up, but the fact is this is SO much worse
>that you only seem silly even bringing the other shit up.

You just can't abandon your high horse, eh? Now the rest of us are insufficiently outraged? We fail to grasp the enormity of the offense, something only you can see? STFU, man.

  

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92. "no, it's just stupid to compare them"
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and you look insecure about your own violations and program when you bring them up at a time like this.

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94. "There you go. Feel morally vindicated?"
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Look everybody: Bryan's more upset than we are! If only we too had such inner strength and clarity of purpose!

And lol @ "at a time a like this."

STFU, man.

  

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96. "dude, he was molesting children, and you're worried about tattoos"
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97. "Love the intentional misreading. Feel good about yourself?"
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98. "I feel awful, actual. how do you feel?"
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101. "I feel sad for the victims, contempt for PSU, but otherwise fine."
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Am I insufficiently outraged, Shells?

  

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102. "nah, you should just be a little embarrassed you made a bad post"
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but it's not really that big a deal.

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103. "lololololol"
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I can just hear those wheels turning: "I'm gonna find a way to feel superior to someone...I'm gonna find a way...I'm gonna find a way..."

Nope. I feel great. Try again.

  

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93. "Yeah, I'm not even going to entertain the OSU clowns. I'm glad "
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they feel vindicated. If vindication is their top priority and focus in a case such as this, there is no point even trying to have a discussion.

Like you said, this case is a complete separate entity from the events that occrred at OSU, USC, etc. This is on par with what took place at Baylor years ago. This is in a special category of its own. Just repulsive all-around.

  

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95. "well said"
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>they feel vindicated. If vindication is their top priority
>and focus in a case such as this, there is no point even
>trying to have a discussion.

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110. "lol slow down Limbaugh"
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>>they feel vindicated. If vindication is their top priority
>>and focus in a case such as this, there is no point even
>>trying to have a discussion.
>


No one here feels happy or vindicated, but you morons should never ever ever ever open your mouths or fix your hands to type some shit about PSU being "classy" or all those other bullshit terms you throw around to put down other schools, while trying to take away attention from your dog shit athletic program.


I feel sorry for the kids involved, and the current players that have to deal with your shitty ass athletic department/coaches/admins.

Do I feel sorry for State Pen fans? Hell no. Hopefully we run the score up against you bitches and send that overrated senile drooling vegetable off to the horse farm.

You better hope and pray real hard JoePa doesnt remember shit, or isn't found guilty of anything.

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141. "i'm not gonna fuck with the moralizing but dave bliss is probably"
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the closest parallel. you're right there.

i still blame hip-hop.

  

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99. "honestly, how? to me, it doesn't at all"
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they're just completely different flaws. that's why one (tats/academic cheating, etc.) is treated by the NCAA and the other is a criminal case.

i mean, it does in the whole "look, all this bullshit about sports is bullshit. there's wars and pedophiles and income inequality and racism and Herman Cain not losing support in polls after being shown to be a sexual harrasser as a boss and you're talking about sports?!??"

that's always true though, so i'm not sure why this does anything other than that. his pedophilia didn't affect the sporting success or failure of the squad. the cover up did (in that he should have gone to jail in 1995). so in that sense, yeah, i guess it matters in sports. but we're talking about the 1990s and i don't really care about 15 years ago. *shrug*

unless you're making the point about PSU fans being pretty high and mighty about their team's moral code. but that doesn't have anything to do with putting free tats (from a drug dealer, right?) into perspective. it has to do with everyone realizing that college football = big business = lack of morality.

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83. "and the name of Sandusky's autobiography:"
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Touched

http://www.amazon.com/Touched-Jerry-Sandusky-Story/dp/1582613575

Anyway, this is horrible news and agreed with everyone that heads need to role. And fuck the Penn State President saying that Curley and Shultz "operate at the highest levels of honesty, integrity and compassion". All 3 need to be fired.

  

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100. "You can't make this shit up."
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Good gawd.

  

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108. "wow "
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146. "O_O"
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104. "It's still one guy and has no impact on the football side of the program"
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So cancel your fucking parade, cheaters.

Awful if true, of course, but let's see what shakes loose in the criminal proceedings before we start with the pitchforks and torches here.

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106. "im not sure what makes u think anyone enjoys seeing this"
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>So cancel your fucking parade, cheaters.

its actually a pretty offensive suggestion

PSU is a dead program with or without pedophilia accusations...none of this shit matters from a football perspective. if anything this might help PSU if its what finally forces them to detonate your coaching staff.

  

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119. "but it's ok to make jokes about, apparently"
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122. "time to get some thick skin"
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cause guru's post is pretty tame compared to what's coming...from all fanbases.

  

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129. "do you really think i give a fuck about penn state right now?"
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kids got molested. fuck penn state.

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138. "its pretty obvious that you care what people are saying"
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whether out of respect to the victims or to the school or whatever.

manage your expectations in the way people will be discussing this cause it's going to be a whole lot worse than guru's copy/paste job.

  

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139. "Well, I can tell you for sure that I feel an enormous amount of shame"
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to be a fan of PSU today.

You did make some valid points above about the 'moral superiority' card which I will readily admit that I even bought into - much more so in the past, but I gave in nonetheless. Both my parents were PSU grads so I was brainwashed a bit into thinking PSU was a class above schools like OSU where corrption seemed to be constantly present. There was a time though when PSU did run a pretty damn clean ship. And the program has always ranked in the upper tier for graduation rates amongst athletes. The perception was that PSU did things the 'right way' or at least they did things in a much more ethical manner in comparison to their peers. Sadly, I bought into that for quite awhile.

Now I acknowledge that everybody will throw darts our way and deservingly so. I think what makes this specific indident different is that NO fan could have possibly known that something of this magnitude was happening. I think deep down you can at least admit that most OSU fans knew corrupt shit was going on with regards to paying players, and general shady stuff going on with the team. There WAS more than enough evidence to believe that PSU ran a more ethical program than OSU (for whatever that's worth). But alas, now that this dirty cover-up has been exposed there is NOTHING in the world PSU fans could ever say about another program. You don't have to remind our fans of that - I think most are level-headed enough to admit that.

  

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160. "evidence of paying players based on what?"
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losing every OOS recruiting battle? or the fact that OSU simply won a lot more games than PSU?

and when did OSU even get caught paying players?

if you would have asked me does OSU do everything they can (within reason) to keep players eligible and on the field? i would have said absolutely. but i dont think thats a unique characteristic of OSU.

if you would have asked do some OSU players attempt to profit off their celebrity...yes i would have said absolutely but again something not specific to OSU.

but this is petty stuff IMO and the fact that media members and people here were describing the incident with words like 'deplorable' and 'heinous'...well, i think most of us know better now.

  

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168. "See, this is why I don't bother engaging OSU fans here in discussion"
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Collectively, you're easily the most defensive group of posters on this board. It's nauseating how bad some of yall are.

The main point of my post had nothing to do with paying players but that's where you decided to take the conversation.

  

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but you throw it out there so casually and imply that i 'should have known'...i mean its just really ignorant.

but whatever. back to the sad topic at hand.

  

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128. "Bottom line, this should not be grouped with OSU, USC, or ..."
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whatever shakes loose from these other probes (Oregon and everyone else doing the exact same thing they did).

as far as blowing up the staff or any major shakeups, again, i'll wait and see what happens here.

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131. "No. They need to take another look at college sports. "
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Period. Specifically at Penn State's campus but if this kind of thing is being kept quiet because this guy is a celeb and above insitutional discipline, then what's the use of the schools?

The NCAA has been bad for something like 50 years or more but this is a bridge too far.

Gut the entire thing. I can't be certain about the truth level in any of this or about what actually has happened but the fact, alone, that there could have been allegations taht were IGNORED?

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280. "With you all the way."
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And your other posts too.

We're so far away from what college sports is supposed to be that the only thing to do is burn it down, try again from scratch.

  

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134. "one guy my ass"
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113. "Sandusky's anthem:"
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highly apropos
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117. "Everyone has a gimic mr rogers changed his shoes mid-show"
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Joe pa changes his pants mid game

  

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120. "Dan Wetzel's Take: Unsurprisingly Better Than Mine"
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http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news;_ylt=Amso_JBuT70NcFqvfhyCgUEcvrYF?slug=dw-wetzel_penn_state_child_sex_case_110511

At approximately 9:30 p.m. on March 1, 2002, a Penn State graduate assistant entered what should have been an empty football locker room. He was surprised to hear the showers running and noises he thought sounded like sexual activity, according to a Pennsylvania grand jury “finding of fact” released Saturday.

When he looked in the shower he saw what he estimated to be a 10-year-old boy, hands pressed up against the wall, “being subjected to anal intercourse,” by Jerry Sandusky, then 58 and Penn State’s former defensive coordinator. The grad assistant said both the boy and the coach saw him before he fled to his office where, distraught and stunned, the grad assistant telephoned the father, who instructed his son to flee the building.

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This undated photo provided by the Pennsylvania Office of Attorney General shows Jerry Sandusky, who was arrested on charges that he sexually abused eight young men.
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The next day, a Saturday, the grad assistant went to the home of head coach Joe Paterno and told him what he had seen. The day after that, Paterno called Penn State athletic director Tim Curley to his home to report that the grad assistant had told him he had witnessed “Jerry Sandusky in the Lasch Building showers fondling or doing something of a sexual nature to a young boy.”

A week-and-a-half later, according to the grand jury report, the grad assistant was called to a meeting with Curley and Gary Schultz, the school’s senior vice president for finance and business, where he retold his story.

Sandusky had retired from the Penn State program in 1999, a surprise to many who saw him as a possible successor to Paterno. He instead dedicated himself to “Second Mile,” a group home he founded in 1977 dedicated to helping troubled boys. He often brought troubled kids through the Penn State facilities, including the famed Beaver Stadium, bought them gifts and took them to sporting events.

Curley did not notify university police or have the graduate assistant further questioned involving the incident. No other legal or university entity investigated the case.

Merely alerting police would’ve been significant since they investigated Sandusky in 1998 for “incidents with children in football building showers.” Curley never asked for a background check on Sandusky.

Curley instead took it upon himself to inform the director of “Second Mile” about the charge, although it didn’t concern potential sodomy of a minor.

Curley told the grand just he was merely told that Sandusky was “horsing around” with the boy. The grand jury did not find that credible in part because Schultz said he had gotten the impression “Sandusky might have inappropriately grabbed the young boys’ genitals while wrestling around.” Both Curley and Schultz are charged with perjury for claiming the grad assistant didn’t inform them of “sexual activity.”

Curley later met with Sandusky and told him he was no longer allowed to bring children onto the Penn State campus. He forwarded the report on to university president Graham Spanier, who approved of Sandusky’s ban from bringing children onto campus and himself never reported the incident to police.

On the base of the grand jury findings Sandusky was arrested Saturday morning and charged with seven counts of involuntary deviate sexual intercourse; eight counts of corruption of minors, eight counts of endangering the welfare of a child, seven counts of indecent assault and other offenses. He was released Saturday on $100,000 bail.

Pennsylvania’s attorney general cited incidents involving Sandusky that ran from 1994 until 2009, including the above act.



Curley and Schultz are expected to turn themselves in to authorities on Monday. The attorneys for both men released statements proclaiming their innocence.

“This is a case about a sexual predator who used his position within the university and community to repeatedly prey on young boys,” attorney general Linda Kelly said. “It is also a case about high-ranking university officials who allegedly failed to report the sexual assault of a young boy after the information was brought to their attention, and later made false statements to a grand jury that was investigating a series of assaults on young boys.”

It is actually even more than that, a stomach-turning 23-page grand jury report that could be the ugliest scandal in the history of college athletics.


Jerry Sandusky sits in a car as he leaves the office of Centre County Magisterial District Judge Leslie A. Dutchcot on Saturday.
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The failure of Penn State officials to call in the proper authorities potentially allowed the alleged sexual predator to live free for an additional nine-and-a-half years.

This case demands answers to deep and troubling questions right up the chain of command at Penn State, including Spanier and the legendary Paterno.

Instead, thus far, all we’ve gotten is a pathetic statement from Spanier who quite incredibly deemed Sandusky’s charges as merely “troubling” (and said little more) and then expressed continued support for Curley and Schultz.

“The allegations about a former coach are troubling, and it is appropriate that they be investigated thoroughly,” the statement read. “Protecting children requires the utmost vigilance … I wish to say that Tim Curley and Gary Schultz have my unconditional support.”

Really, that’s it? That’s what the guy who is running Penn State has to say? That’s all he thought was appropriate?

Curley and Schultz need to be suspended immediately. Some actual adult in Pennsylvania needs to step in and sit Spanier down also and not merely for issuing a statement that expressed no concern for the victims, no shock at the charges, some of which occurred on his campus, and little concern about crimes this despicable.

More importantly, Spanier needs to be immediately removed from an authority position since his culpability is tied to Curley. After all, Spanier both knew of the allegations against Sandusky and approved of Curley’s handling of the case.

That includes an act almost unfathomable in its insensitivity. According to the attorney general, no one at Penn State ever tried to find the boy. At worst, he was raped in a shower. At best, according to testimony that law enforcement finds non-credible, he was either “horsing around” with or being “inappropriately grabbed” by an old man in an empty locker room.

Yet no one thought they should go find the kid so he and his family could get proper help or further protection. Not even the university president?

“Despite a powerful eyewitness statement about the sexual assault of a child, this incident was not reported to any law enforcement or child protective agency, as required by Pennsylvania law,” said Kelly, the attorney general. “Additionally, there is no indication that anyone from the university ever attempted to learn the identity of the child.”

How? How could all these people of power, people of education, people of authority simply look the other way? And how could Graham Spanier maintain a level of arrogance to release that statement on this day?

There can simply be no tolerance, no leniency, no looking the other way with any charge involving an adult and a child. None. There isn’t a gray area here, not only in the letter of the law, but in the spirit of any semblance of ethical conduct.

The legal process will and should be allowed to play out and determine the guilt and innocence of all involved. The accused have the right to a proper defense in a court of law.

In a broader sense, however, an immediate, thorough and limitless investigation must be launched by the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania to find out why this wasn’t turned over to the proper authorities. This isn’t just about what it is and isn’t a crime, it’s about what is and isn’t right.



The chief question is this: If Curley, Schultz and Spanier believed it was no longer appropriate to allow Sandusky to bring children onto the Penn State campus – an act that suggests some concern over his behavior – how could they possibly believe his actions didn’t warrant a full police investigation?

And then there is the conduct of Paterno, the 84-year-old legend. He is beloved for being the winningest coach in college football history and for running a program for more than five decades that never ran afoul of NCAA statutes.

While he may have committed no crime, he must fully explain the actions he took after hearing such an unspeakable allegation.

Did he really listen to this story and think merely telling the AD was enough? Why did he wait a day to summon Curley to his home? Wouldn’t a charge like this take precedent over pretty much everything? Why didn’t he personally look into it further? This is something that allegedly happened in his locker room, by a man he both coached and employed as a trusted assistant for a combined 33 years?

Technically Paterno may have done the right thing, reporting the allegation to his superior, but he isn’t just some middle manager. Tim Curley worked for Joe Paterno more than Joe Paterno worked for Tim Curley. He could’ve called in the police himself.

Paterno was 75 at the time and his advancing age and the limits of his participation in the program are well known. That simply can’t be used as an excuse. Positions of authority come with great responsibility and advancing age does not excuse someone of merely accepting the plaudits of success while avoiding the more difficult duties of the position.

Paterno may very well have appropriate answers to all of the above questions and more. He needs to give them. Four-hundred-plus victories shouldn’t absolve anyone from being accountable in a case such as this.

This is a scandal that goes beyond nearly anything college athletics has ever witnessed. These are the most horrific charges that can be made, the worst of the worst kind of crime that haunts victims forever.

The time for hiding behind statements and closed doors and parsed explanations from so-called leaders are over.

This demands real investigation conducted by real adults, something that’s at least eight years and who knows how many unnecessary victims overdue.

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121. "Joe's on his way out regardless of what happens. There is no way"
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he coaches another season given his current physical and emotional state of being. He's up in the press box every game. He's getting hurt in practices. He's just not present much at all. I think he knows he has to go for real after this season.

This just makes things so much more depressing for his exit.

  

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144. "they shouldn't let him leave on his own accord though"
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he should be outright fired, no ride off in the sunset bullshit.

  

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148. "I agree and I'm one of his biggest fans of all time. I don't think it's"
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quite fair to vilify him because we really don't know all the facts just yet. Paterno may have thought that between McQueary, Tim Curly (AD), and Spanier (school president) someone would have taken care of the investigation and notified the appropriate authorities. Either way, I think he most likely should be fired. Question is, by whom? Because the person who fires Joe Pa had an even greater responsibility to handle this situation appropriately.

I think it's becoming more clear why Sandusky 'retired' in '99. Apparently there was another shower incident that took place sometime in '98 and this was their way of disciplining him.

This is just so repulsive all-around. I mean, the guy was having sleep-overs with young boys. His wife HAD to know what was up. He was banned from a local high school after he was caught practicing 'wrestling moves' on a young boy. It's absolutely repulsive knowing that there were so many people responsible for allowing such behavior to persist for so long. They may not have known the specifics, but after so many allegations you have to put your foot down at some point and take action.

  

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151. "agreed 100 percent. fire him today."
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130. "College Sports are too powerful. Gut it, all of it. I have no words. "
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135. "Paying players is unethical, but what happened at PSU is immoral"
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and sadistic.

I don't think the cover-up was done to give PSU a competitive advantage being that the most serious allegations began after Sandusky's retirement. IMO it's a really, really abhorent example of college athletics/admins having wayyyy too much power - which is a byproduct of the hyper corrupt system inherent in college sports.

When you step back and look at the severity of these allegations, it's mind-numbingly depressing that a cover-up of this magnitude could actually occur.

  

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132. "O_O wauw wauw wauw. i was floored 2 paragraphs in."
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that shit cray.

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Will go back and finish article at some pt

  

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133. "I can't believe this. Unimaginable that a coverup like this could happen..."
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Yeah...what he^^^^said...Shit is shocking.....

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136. "ewwwwww"
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i mean how do you get to the point of being so bold with your pedoism that you're fucking lil boys in the shower ON school grounds? and the school did NOTHING. if they turned a blind eye to that, wtf else were they doing? beyond sick.

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he probably got so brazen cuz he knew no one would do shit

  

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140. "this is bad...."
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143. "The grad asst. who witnessed the shower incident was Mike McQueary"
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who is our current WR coach and main recruiters...Not sure why he didn't report this to the police (or hell, even attack Sandusky and break it up), but I guess that is something he can only answer for himself. I know if it was me, I'd feel an enormous amount of shame and disgust knowing that I could have done something more to ensure an incident like that never happened again - at least not on the PSU campus.

  

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145. "how do you not IMMEDIATELY intervene physically?"
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the only question that should be running through that guy's head is "Do I call 9-1-1 before or after I beat this dude to death"


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157. "while I feel the same way sitting on a laptop, I'm sure there's"
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more than a little bit of shock that comes with walking in on such an indescribably horrifying scene particularly when the person involved is a guy the age of your grandfather who you've likely held in high regard for a long time.

I can see at least in the moment there being a 'flee the scene/did-I-just-see-that?' reaction that could occur.

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161. "yeah...he gets a pass for not acting in the moment"
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>more than a little bit of shock that comes with walking in on
>such an indescribably horrifying scene particularly when the
>person involved is a guy the age of your grandfather who
>you've likely held in high regard for a long time.
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>I can see at least in the moment there being a 'flee the
>scene/did-I-just-see-that?' reaction that could occur.

but once shock wears off he has to take it upon himself to make sure that coach is on the first train to hell

  

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164. "I agree with you, the right thing to do after Paterno failed to do act.."
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was to report it to the police. At the same time who knows what was said to him during his meetings with Paterno and the administration and what if any promises or threats were made.

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>>more than a little bit of shock that comes with walking in
>on
>>such an indescribably horrifying scene particularly when the
>>person involved is a guy the age of your grandfather who
>>you've likely held in high regard for a long time.
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>>I can see at least in the moment there being a 'flee the
>>scene/did-I-just-see-that?' reaction that could occur.
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>but once shock wears off he has to take it upon himself to
>make sure that coach is on the first train to hell

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163. "basically, I don't know how I would process seeing some shit like that....."
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>more than a little bit of shock that comes with walking in on
>such an indescribably horrifying scene particularly when the
>person involved is a guy the age of your grandfather who
>you've likely held in high regard for a long time.
>
>I can see at least in the moment there being a 'flee the
>scene/did-I-just-see-that?' reaction that could occur.
>
>

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150. "I'm only a little mad at McQueary"
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McQueary saw a HOF defensive coordinator doing horrible things to a 10 year old boy, and he did what you do when you have a huge problem in state college. he went to Joe. when it became obvious these clowns were going to cover it up, he faced the possibility of crossing the machine, which could and would have trampled him.

plus, you're a 28 year old kid with no power, and now an AD and Joe Frickin Paterno are telling you everything is cool. are you really going to cross them?

so he probably should have came forward, but the power dynamics make me pretty forgiving of him. he told the authorities, and the authorities should have handled it. i'm far more angry at the two suits, Paterno, and Spanier. they all need to be fired yesterday.

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154. "28 year old kid?"
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155. "28 yo old kid? cmon man"
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like, i understand why he'd be confused about what to do. i cant imagine what i would do if i witnessed something like that.

but dont call him a kid. he a grown ass man shells. and he dropped the ball hard.

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156. "you probably feel like a kid dealing with the other parties"
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all i'm saying. i don't give him a pass, but i understand it. he's nowhere near as guilty as the other guys we're talking about.

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158. "bullshit"
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i was going to give him a pass until i found out that he currently works there AND was promoted to wide receivers coach to boot. his career with the penn state machine was more important than those little boys. he gets NO sympathy from me.


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159. "damn i aint know it like that. he's gotta fry for that on GP."
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162. "oh he gets fired, just like everyone else"
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just, on the scale of culpability, i do think he's below the big four of jackasses.

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585. "eff all of that, you go the the cops, bottom LINE"
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>McQueary saw a HOF defensive coordinator doing horrible
>things to a 10 year old boy, and he did what you do when you
>have a huge problem in state college. he went to Joe. when
>it became obvious these clowns were going to cover it up, he
>faced the possibility of crossing the machine, which could and
>would have trampled him.
>
>plus, you're a 28 year old kid with no power, and now an AD
>and Joe Frickin Paterno are telling you everything is cool.
>are you really going to cross them?
>
>so he probably should have came forward, but the power
>dynamics make me pretty forgiving of him. he told the
>authorities, and the authorities should have handled it. i'm
>far more angry at the two suits, Paterno, and Spanier. they
>all need to be fired yesterday.

unless you don't have a conscience.


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166. "aren't DC's replaceable?"
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what did Sandusky have on Paterno/PSU to warrant such an insane cover-up?

  

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167. "plus he was already gone by the time of this main incident cited"
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and why was he still allowed full-access even after that?

I really can't even fathom how this all went down & why, I almost don't want to know because it can only get uglier from here.

What a sad, strange, sordid end to Joe Pa's career.

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169. "I don't think it was a matter of covering up Sandusky so much as"
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it was protecting the legacy and image of PSU as a squeaky clean university.

The 2002 incident wasn't the first alleged rape. I believe the first occurred sometime in '94 or '95, but I'm not sure what evidence was really presented to Joe Pa and crew at that time.

I believe '98 was the first shower incident and all reports indicate that Joe and everyone up top to the school president knew about it. The board of trustees must have had a serious conversation about what to do next. This would explain why Sandusky was forced into early retirement. At the time, the local district attorney disappeared never to be seen/heard from again. So as a result, the investigation stalled and wasn't further pursued.

Years passed and more allegations were filed. All that time passed and Sandusky was still using PSU facilities and his position within PSU to capitalize on his sadistic fantasies. The 2002 incident was the last straw and he was supposedly barred using PSU facilities with the company of a minor. Problem was, the rule was basically unenfoceable.

So, I don't think this has anything to do specifically with dirt on Joe Pa. The way it appears to me, is that they (AD, school president, possibly Paterno, etc.) dug themselves too big of a hole to come clean about the absolute negligence and abuse of power wielded on their part.

I mean, you can't make this shit up. I'm not even sure I want to know the whole truth.

  

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171. "yeah, I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around this shit..."
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>Years passed and more allegations were filed. All that time
>passed and Sandusky was still using PSU facilities and his
>position within PSU to capitalize on his sadistic fantasies.
>The 2002 incident was the last straw and he was supposedly
>barred using PSU facilities with the company of a minor.
>Problem was, the rule was basically unenfoceable.

They were like "it's ok that you're fucking little boys, just don't do it on our campus"

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172. "it really is the silver medal awful college scandal ever"
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i think baylor still wins, since you had a coach trying to lead a cover-up. but this is close.

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"it has nothing to do with that, he wasnt even in the gig"


  

          

when this happened he had already left the staff (BTW be suspicious of anyone who devotes so much time exclusively to children). the complaints date back to five years before he was canned but most of them are afterward, including this incident.

it could have been him or anyone else, this is a program-crushing scandal and these guys thought they could sweep it under the rug. jesus christ, this is more shameful by the second.

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291. "it has nothing to do with that, he wasnt even in the gig"
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when this happened he had already left the staff (BTW be suspicious of anyone who devotes so much time exclusively to children). the complaints date back to five years before he was canned but most of them are afterward, including this incident.

it could have been him or anyone else, this is a program-crushing scandal and these guys thought they could sweep it under the rug. jesus christ, this is more shameful by the second.

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173. "Paterno releases statement..."
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http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/11/joe_paterno_issues_statement_a.html

Penn State Head Coach Joe Paterno released a statement today regarding the child sex abuse charges filed against his former defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky, saying "If this is true we were all fooled."

Perjury and failure to report charges were also filed against university Athletic Director Tim Curley and Vice President for business and finance, Gary Schultz, after prosecutors say they ignored a report in 2002 from then-graduate assistant Mike McQueary that McQueary had witnessed Sandusky performing a sex act with a boy in the Penn State football locker room.

Paterno, 84, told Curley about what McQueary witnessed, but said in his statement that he was never told the specifics of what McQueary saw.

This is the statement, in full:

"If true, the nature and amount of charges made are very shocking to me and all Penn Staters. While I did what I was supposed to with the one charge brought to my attention, like anyone else involved I can't help but be deeply saddened these matters are alleged to have occurred.

"Sue and I have devoted our lives to helping young people reach their potential. The fact that someone we thought we knew might have harmed young people to this extent is deeply troubling. If this is true we were all fooled, along with scores of professionals trained in such things, and we grieve for the victims and their families. They are in our prayers.

"As my grand jury testimony stated, I was informed in 2002 by an assistant coach that he had witnessed an incident in the shower of our locker room facility. It was obvious that the witness was distraught over what he saw, but he at no time related to me the very specific actions contained in the Grand Jury report. Regardless, it was clear that the witness saw something inappropriate involving Mr. Sandusky. As Coach Sandusky was retired from our coaching staff at that time, I referred the matter to university administrators.

"I understand that people are upset and angry, but let's be fair and let the legal process unfold. In the meantime I would ask all Penn Staters to continue to trust in what that name represents, continue to pursue their lives every day with high ideals and not let these events shake their beliefs nor who they are."
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174. "Penn State Board of Trustees meeting right now"
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176. "Petitions are circulating right now to have Spanier and Curley fired"
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There is no way the Board of Trustees sits back and remains idle now. Banning Sandusky from campus (which they did earlier today) is not going to satisfy anyone.

The secrets can no longer continue. They must do something (within reason because no one has technically been found guilty yet)swiftly and tactfully because public unrest will be too burdensome to bear. PSU has one of the largest alumni networks in the country. You better be damn sure that PSU's proud alumni is not gonna just sit back and let their legacy be destroyed.

No person, or program is above the welfare of innocent children. I think that is the public perception as I see it and converse with my fellow PSU fans. I know from just talking to friends and family who are PSU alums, they are shocked and outraged and have mixed feelings about even supporting the team right now. Sure, it has nothing in the world to do with the players and even some of the coaches. But it's the perception that there are higher ups within the program that provided an opportunity for this sadistic behavior to persist for so long.

  

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177. "I think Paterno has to have some accountability in this also, as far as...."
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he and Sandusky go back, I'm sure he knows a lot more than he's letting on, it probably played a hand in Sandusky's "retirement". But to let Sandusky continue on as an "assistant coach emeritus" and have and office on campus and run his camps even after the 2002 incident is ridiculous.

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179. "I also wonder how Sandusky's sons are handling this, one of them..."
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works in the Cleveland Browns front office and the other is a college coach at West Chester.

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182. "My youngest brother played for his son E.J. "
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One of his recruiting ploys was that he was the son of the legendary coach Jerry Sandusky. By my brother's account EJ was a great coach/guy.

Part of me wonders how the players are going to view McQueary and Paterno. I don't really care though. At this point, it's going to be really hard to even care/cheer/support the team. I mean, I know it has nothing at all to do with the players, but I'm just so pissed off at the people who run the show at PSU.

  

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183. "I refuse to consume any psu football until someone gets fired"
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i'm not going to duck the crap that comes with this, but i won't watch the on-field product.

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175. "As recently as 2009 Sandusky was running an overnight camp for kids..."
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on Penn State campuses...

http://deadspin.com/5856887/as-recently-as-2009-jerry-sandusky-was-running-an-overnight-football-camp-for-kids-on-penn-state-campuses

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178. "wauw."
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180. "make it stop"
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181. "really want them to slap a conspiracy charge on someone at psu"
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doubt they can make it stick, but whatever, make these jerks sweat.

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184. "yo this is seriously one of the most unreal, disgusting situations"
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I can ever recall related to college athletics.

I'm in shock.

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190. "I kind of think I'm over college football."
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Honestly and truly this is just too much.

College football was the last sport I checked regularly. I can't fuck with it anymore. The entire thing is tainted.

There are sexual assaults on women that go unpunished, swept under the rug every year.

There are kids being drugged up to play on.

There are men on college campuses with power to do nearly anything they want on those campuses.

And because of this, this was allowed to happen.

I can't.

For now, at least, I'm done.

I don't see it changing anytime soon. I don't know what can be done to get back those young men's lives.

I don't know what his sons could have known.

There is no jail time, no barbaric prison retribution that can bring any amount of actual balance to this situation.

This shit is beyond deplorable.

Again, I'm fucking done.

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186. "PSU officials resign"
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STATE COLLEGE, Pa. (AP) -- Two Penn State officials charged with covering up allegations of an explosive child-sex abuse scandal stepped down late Sunday after an emergency meeting of the university's Board of Trustees.

Penn State athletic director Tim Curley requested to be placed on administrative leave so he could devote the time needed to defend himself against perjury and other charges, university President Graham Spanier said. Gary Schultz, vice president for finance and business, will step down and go back into retirement, Spanier said. He declined to comment to reporters after the meeting.

University spokesman Bill Mahon said resignations of famed football coach Joe Paterno and Spanier weren't discussed at the meeting.
Curley and Schultz were charged Saturday after a grand jury investigation of former defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky. He's been charged with sexually abusing eight boys over 15 years. Lawyers for all three men have said they're innocent.

Sandusky, once considered Paterno's heir apparent, retired in 1999 but continued to use the school's facilities for his work with The Second Mile, a foundation he established to help at-risk kids. Curley and Schultz were accused of failing to alert police - as required by state law - of their investigation of the allegations.

"This is a case about a sexual predator who used his position within the university and community to repeatedly prey on young boys," state Attorney General Linda Kelly said Saturday.

Paterno, who last week became the coach with the most wins in Division I football history, wasn't charged, and the grand jury report didn't appear to implicate him in wrongdoing.

In a statement issued Sunday night, Paterno said he was shocked, saddened and surprised as everyone else to hear of the charges.
"If this is true we were all fooled, along with scores of professionals trained in such things, and we grieve for the victims and their families. They are in our prayers," Paterno said in a statement issued by his son, Scott.

Under Paterno's four-decades-and-counting stewardship, the Nittany Lions became a bedrock in the college game, and fans packed the stadium in State College, a campus town routinely ranked among America's best places to live and nicknamed Happy Valley.

Paterno's teams were revered both for winning games - including two national championships - and largely steering clear of trouble. Sandusky, whose defenses were usually anchored by tough-guy linebackers - hence the moniker "Linebacker U" - spent three decades at the school. The charges against him cover the period from 1994 to 2009.

Sandusky, 67, was arrested Saturday and released on $100,000 bail after being arraigned on 40 criminal counts. Curley, 57, and Schultz, 62, were expected to turn themselves in on Monday in Harrisburg.
Curley was named athletic director on Dec. 30, 1993. Schultz served as senior vice president and treasurer from 1993 to 2009. He retruned to the job this year to fill in until a new person could be found.

The allegations against Sandusky, who started The Second Mile in 1977, range from sexual advances to touching to oral and anal sex. The young men testified before a state grand jury that they were in their early teens when some of the abuse occurred; there is evidence even younger children may have been victimized. Sandusky's attorney Joe Amendola said his client has been aware of the accusations for about three years and has maintained his innocence.

"He's shaky, as you can expect," Amendola told WJAC-TV after Sandusky was arraigned. "Being 67 years old, never having faced criminal charges in his life and having the distinguished career that he's had, these are very serious allegations."

A preliminary hearing scheduled for Wednesday would likely be delayed, Amendola said. Sandusky is charged with multiple counts of involuntary deviate sexual intercourse, corruption of minors, endangering the welfare of a child, indecent assault and unlawful contact with a minor, as well as single counts of aggravated indecent assault and attempted indecent assault.

The first case to come to light was a boy who met Sandusky when he was 11 or 12, the grand jury said. The boy received expensive gifts and trips to sports events from Sandusky, and physical contact began during his overnight stays at Sandusky's home, jurors said.

Eventually, the boy's mother reported the allegations of sexual assault to his high school, and Sandusky was banned from the child's school district in Clinton County in 2009. That triggered the state investigation that culminated in charges Saturday.

But the report also alleges much earlier instances of abuse and details failed efforts to stop it by some who became aware of what was happening.

Another child, known only as a boy about 11 to 13, was seen by a janitor pinned against a wall while Sandusky performed oral sex on him in fall 2000, the grand jury said.

And in 2002, Kelly said, a graduate assistant saw Sandusky sexually assault a naked boy, estimated to be about 10 years old, in a team locker room shower. The grad student and his father reported what he saw to Paterno, who immediately told Curley, prosecutors said.
Curley and Schultz met with the graduate assistant about a week and a half later, Kelly said.

"Despite a powerful eyewitness statement about the sexual assault of a child, this incident was not reported to any law enforcement or child protective agency, as required by Pennsylvania law," Kelly said.
There's no indication that anyone at school attempted to find the boy or follow up with the witness, she said.

Curley denied that the assistant had reported anything of a sexual nature, calling it "merely `horsing around,"' the 23-page grand jury report said. But he also testified that he barred Sandusky from bringing children onto campus and that he advised Spanier of the matter.

The grand jury said Curley was lying, Kelly said, adding that it also deemed portions of Schultz's testimony not to be credible.
Schultz told the jurors he also knew of a 1998 investigation involving sexually inappropriate behavior by Sandusky with a boy in the showers the football team used.

But despite his job overseeing campus police, he never reported the 2002 allegations to any authorities, "never sought or received a police report on the 1998 incident and never attempted to learn the identity of the child in the shower in 2002," the jurors wrote. "No one from the university did so."

Lawyers for both Curley and Schultz issued statements saying they are innocent of all charges.


University representatives released a statement from Spanier on Saturday calling the allegations against Sandusky "troubling" and adding that Curley and Schultz had his unconditional support.
He predicted they will be exonerated.

"I have known and worked daily with Tim and Gary for more than 16 years," Spanier said. "I have complete confidence in how they handled the allegations about a former university employee."

Sandusky, once considered a potential successor to Paterno, drew up the defenses for the Nittany Lions' national-title teams in 1982 and 1986. The team is enjoying another successful run this season; at 8-1, Penn State is ranked No. 16 in the AP Top 25 and is the last undefeated squad in Big Ten play. The Nittany Lions were off Saturday.

As the head football coach, Paterno has spent years cultivating a reputation for putting integrity ahead of modern college-sports economics. It's a notion that has benefited Penn State's marketing and recruiting efforts over the decades and one that the Big Ten school's alumni proudly tout years after they leave.

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187. "nah, Joe cant slide on this, this was not a 'procedural' type of offense"
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that you sit on after you send it up the chain.

You're Joe Fucking Paterno.

YOU. ARE. PENN. STATE.

If you're too old to know what to do when you report this to an official then see the police didn't do a full investigation you've at the least ignored your moral responsibility.

FOH, he needs to be gone & the rest of the days while he's trying to coach out this season needs to be him getting peppered with questions that might send his old ass out with a heart attack if he tries to keep going.

I have grown up with nothing but respect for Joe.

I've got alumni fam.

Never really liked PSU myself (in fact, I kinda grew to dislike them & that shitbox Deliverance Country place they play) but always gave credit where it was due & rooted for them against ND.

This dude was reckless as shit & you allowed him to continue to exist, deciding this of all times might be the one time you decide to listen to your superiors without question when you know you do what you want at that school plus have been there three times as long as anybody.

No excuses.

He fucked up so badly I can't even believe it & will lose respect for him more each day he continues to coach. This is not about him, his legacy, or a stupid fucking record anymore.

This is a sad, sordid end to a storied career but it warrants coming to an end right now with an apology.

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198. "not enough. spanier and paterno too"
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this shit is disgusting when you hear about coverups in the church etc.. but what was going through these cat's heads?

I don't even know what to say

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Catholic shit (which I assume Joe is a member of).

There's some weird things amongst Irish/Italian Catholics of my grandparents age group.

Like if you don't talk about it, then it doesn't exist.

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191. "Power is power. "
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All kinds of shit gets a pass because of power.

What I can't believe is that they've known for nearly two decades and NOTHING substantial has been done to address the situation.

I might actually throw up right now.

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193. "basically. fuck OSU, SC, etc. this is priest-ish, both in how it went "
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down AND how the coverup was handled.

don't let dude bring any more kids up to the campus?

wow. what a firm stance they took there. hey, dude. don't be raping any more little boys... on OUR campus. rape them at home like everybody else.

i can't fathom them letting that slide.

and then some other place ended up banning dude from their county? but he presumably could continue raping kids in OTHER counties?

sick.

THIS specific crime/tragedy is not necessarily the logical end of having places where power is too centralized and insular, but its definitely abetted by such situations. if you have power in too few hands AND the rep of someplace is exalted above its realities, SOMETHING like this is bound to occur.



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199. "i don't think this was about football...certainly not wins and losses"
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they weren't covering up for lavar arrington...it was a coach would could've been replaced within minutes. most good programs have a revolving door at these types of positions. and wtf is a DC to the university president?

there has to be more than what we know right now but even if there isn't...I'd have to think it was more about the reputation of the university as a whole and whatever financial fallout that would've came from this mess (ie., fund raising efforts). ain't everything about $$ in the end?

can anyone be certain that if this were about the men's tennis coach that it would have been handled any differently? this was a legal issue not a cheating issue and had it been appropriately reported the football program would have came out unscathed. hell, they'll still probably be ok from a NCAA sanctions POV.

  

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this shit is disgusting when you hear about coverups in the church etc.. but what was going through these cat's heads?

I don't even know what to say

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192. "Again, they need to clean house - including Joe Pa "
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Time for a major shake up. I know there is a certain coach at Rutgers just waiting for the phone call.

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fire em all.

  

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196. "this dude was overseeing campus police and covering up molestation"
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I'm actually afraid at what else they're going to find if they look...which they probably won't.



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197. "I agree, he was the vp of finance too? Who knows who's been paid off..."
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and what's been covered up.

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200. "Great post from Spencer Hall (EDSBS) calling for resignations (SWIPE)"
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http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-football/2011/11/7/2543948/penn-state-jerry-sandusky-joe-paterno-sex-abuse-case

I don't really need outrage here. Facts should be enough for you. Penn State Athletic Director Tim Curley and VP of Finance and Operations Gary Schultz have been accused of perjuring themselves in a grand jury investigation of sexual abuse involving Jerry Sandusky, former Penn State defensive coordinator. Sandusky allegedly abused a child within the walls of the Penn State football facility with a third party witness looking on in horror in the year 2002. This was one of eight cases listed in the grand jury finding issued by the State of Pennsylvania. At least one happened.

In response, Penn State did not call the police. They did other things, but they did not call the police. Joe Paterno did not call the police, and Tim Curley did not call the police, and Gary Schultz did not call the police. The graduate assistant who witness the act did not call the police. Penn State President Graham Spanier did not call the police. A reported child molester and rapist was living and working in their midst, and working in a program that brought him into contact with boys, and not one person called the police.

The legal case here covers that which is legally enforceable. We live in a society of laws, and those laws have limits. All of the people involved here who should have called the police instead reported what they were supposed to under Pennsylvania law, to a certain extent. The failure came at the top of the chain of command. Curley and Schultz short-circuited the proper course of action, protected Sandusky and the reputation of the university, and behaved in a manner not consistent with the law in doing so and then lying about it to a grand jury. They are charged with third-degree felonies, and have already both lost their jobs over the matter. Sandusky will most likely die in prison.

That is what is covered by the law.

The rest is a matter of morality. The reporting occurred in 2002. At that point, if someone had called the police, Sandusky could have been caught. There is a section dated "Victim One" in the grand jury finding. This case of abuse unfolded from 2005 to 2009. This case happened after 2002, when Sandusky should have been reported, and then prosecuted, and then placed in prison after a fair trial.

Not one person called the police.

This is not the army. There is a chain of command in places like Penn State, but ultimately a nation of laws is governed by citizens, not cogs in an institution. Every person who knew about this and passed it along is culpable in the ongoing abuse of children by Sandusky. That is a painful thing to write, but every person who knew something and turned away is culpable--even those not named in this case, whose names will never be known, and who let an institution's assumed weight blunt their moral sensibilities.

There is one person who did the right thing: Steven Turchetta, the high school football coach and assistant principal who reported Sandusky's inappropriate behavior, had him banned from the school district, and whose allegations led to a grand jury investigation.

Everyone else involved took half-measures. Those people include the grad assistant who reported the abuse to Paterno, but who never bothered to follow up with the case despite watching a young boy sodomized by someone he knew to be working with children on a regular basis. Paterno reported the allegations upward, but then seemingly forgot about them, allowing Sandusky to walk free. Schultz and Curley deliberately hid bad news from their superior like toddlers stuffing soiled pants behind furniture to avoid being caught with a mess on their hands.

The law only covers so much. Morality covers the rest. I tend to be very permissive with the definition of morality, but there are a few things that are non-negotiables. Your person is sacrosanct. Your property should be safe. Your basic rights should be guaranteed.

At the bare minimum, a child being raped by anyone should be reported to the police. This might make me a feather-headed idealist, but it seems like the least you can do for your fellow citizen. Consensus may be hard to come by in our nation, but this seems like something we can agree on as a people. If you see a child being raped, you should call the police.

This kind of bold thinking may seem obvious to some. It was not to more than one person at Penn State, people who assumed that the university had some kind of other law that overlapped with Jerry Sandusky law, and with Paterno law, or whatever other pseudo-legality they thought kept them from calling the police and saying, "I think we have a child molester working in and around our program."

And yet no one said anything. If everyone at Penn State is okay with this, then the heads stop rolling here. If you're not, then you demand the resignations of everyone involved. This includes Joe Paterno, who knew, but then abandoned his moral responsibility to the cold dictates of the org chart.

  

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201. "I'm literally have trouble processing what PSU officials did"
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Like, I can't get it through my brain that powerful old men would cover this shit up just because...

It's easier.

it's easier to let children KEEP GETTING RAPED.

How does JoePa, or anyone involved, sleep at night?

How are they not dying with guilt and remorse?

Denial is a powerful thing.

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204. "bob ford has a great article on philly.com about psu's culture"
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http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/colleges/20111106_Sex_abuse_charges_could_bring_down_Paterno.html?cmpid=125219969

synopsis: for the good he has done, paterno has run his ship like the mafia for years. everything stays in house. you don't talk to outsiders about anything. that's his m.o., and it appears to include child molestation.

so, yeah, he needs to be fired. today.

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205. "If the catholic church does it to protect the "sanctity" of their..."
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institution, I guess it shouldn't be too much of a surprise when another institution does the same.

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209. "The catholic church kinda has enough power to get away with it..."
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They don't have an organization ruling over them like the NCAA (or even a government, to be honest) and they've been covering up different scandals for centuries, so I can see how they'd handle something in house and think they'd get away with it.

But I have no idea how PSU thought they would get away with this kinda cover up for something like this.

  

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210. "maybe by the fact they'd done so for two decades until yesterday?"
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>But I have no idea how PSU thought they would get away with
>this kinda cover up for something like this.

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at these major universities are, in a lot of cases they have more clout than the school president.

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if joepa wanted somebody dead in state college, that person would be dead and the body would never show up.

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258. "head coach, yeah. a DC though? more important than the school pres?"
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265. "Paterno certainly was, which is why his failure to act is unforgiveable"
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him playing dumb to get his old player/assistant a pass is what allowed this to happen & why every moment he's still not resigning is making me angry.

Besides the actual sick fuck Sandusky, Paterno is the most culpable to me, fuck what a Grand Jury says.

Joe's word is law around there & when he said hush kids got hurt....repeatedly.

Fuck that batshit old fuck.

I have no respect for him at all anymore.

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267. "before joe pa passed the buck it was about Sandusky only"
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at least that's what I'm assuming based on the info we have.

so im assuming there was a period of time where they could have put it 100% on Sandusky...but they passed on this opportunity to act in the most logical and ethical fashion. they passed on the strategy that would have left them with the most minimal fallout on the university and the football program...not to mention justice for the victims if they even gave a shit about that (clearly they didnt).

im not buying the argument that sandusky's defensive coordinator status enabled him more power than a school president, an AD, and a legendary head coach that were all in a position to fry him. child rapists tend to not have much leverage power. he should have been at their mercy.





  

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269. "So are you saying Sandusky had some sort of dirt "
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on JoePa and PSU?

I don't really understand why PSU would go so far to save the reputation of a DC. As you said, a DC is replaceable and not that important on a college campus for a school to do a full cover up.

  

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274. "i dont see it any other way"
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sandusky shouldve been groveling at the feet of the university brass on some 'I'll do anything please don't ruin my life, I'll suck your dick' shit...

instead, he gets a 'retirement', an office and basically free reign to do whatever the fuck he wants to on campus, where he's probably constantly running into janitors and guys like mcqueary who were witness to his rapings...he's in the gym getting his workout on, hanging out at practice (with kids, no less - IOW he doesn't give a fuck about that supposed banning), and he's using the university's name to host OVERNIGHT camps on PSU's campus.

does this sound like someone who has a 1,000lb anvil hanging over his head? or does this sound like someone who has the school and the athletic dept by the balls?

ok, I get it, you don't want to turn the guy in, you want to protect your image. so why not ship him off to new zealand and make it clear that if he ever comes within 1,000 miles of the university he'll be in a world of hurt?

instead, they seemingly cater to sandusky's every wish and allow him to continue his ways within the limits of state college and allow him to operate his perverted charity...thus keeping that anvil over THEIR heads. university brass had to foresee the possibility of this guy slipping up.


  

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276. "i wish this didn't make so much sense."
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351. "Just the fact that McQueary and JoePa knew since at least 02"
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Maybe longer, and hadn't said anything, is dirt enough. If they all the sudden said "enough is enough" and reported his ass, then there's the whole can of worms about why they didn't do anything sooner (as is now playing out, except on a worse level, because they got caught covering it up rather than admitting to covering it up). They were literally damned if they did and damned if they didn't.

Plus there's the whole power mindset of thinking that you're absolutely bulletproof once you've attained a certain standing. See Eliot Spitzer continuing to see escorts despite the fact that he was no longer in charge of trafficking investigations once he became Governor.

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272. "I get that, Im sayin Joe was powerful enough to bury or raise this thing"
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and we saw what side Joe took.

Sandusky knew who his friends were & more importantly was so demented he couldn't help himself regardless, shit some of this behavior comes off almost like that serial-killer who wants to get caught by the end of it.

And the most powerful man in Eastern Pennsylvania in the past 30 years or so, told an AD & went about his business.

He can take that to the grave he'll be in soon.

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207. "Drew over at Deadspin had a great post on the "institutional mindset" to..."
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Swipe;

http://deadspin.com/5857014/jerry-sandusky-joe-paterno-and-the-failure-of-adult-institutions-everywhere

Jerry Sandusky, Joe Paterno, And Why "Good" People Fail To Do The Right Thing

At some point in the coming weeks, Joe Paterno is gonna step down as the head coach at Penn State, and the reason why is because there's no possible way to reconcile the statement he issued yesterday with the details from the grand jury report that say, specifically, that Peterno was told that Jerry Sandusky did things of a "sexual nature" to a child. I would say the use of terms like "child" and "sexual nature" are specific enough. Paterno is going to be allowed the chance to resign with some semblance of dignity, probably before the team's bowl game. And the oblivious sack of shit currently serving as PSU president will get the boot as well. This whole PSU thing is less an indictment of college football than it is an indictment of all entrenched adult institutions. From big-time college football to the Catholic church to Wall Street to government agencies, you'll find that people almost always choose to cover their ass and protect their jobs (and friends) rather than do the right thing.
Blowing the whistle is the exception to the rule. The fact that Paterno, deemed by many to be the Gold Standard for how a football coach ought to conduct himself, isn't immune to it should tell you something. Because I'm fairly certain that despite all this, Paterno remains a good and decent person. It's not like he's gonna rip off a mask to reveal that he's John Wayne Gacy underneath. All the charming things you read about JoePa in the past aren't suddenly all lies.

Sandusky was Paterno's colleague (and one would assume friend) for over three decades. So imagine someone coming up to you and telling you that your friend of 30 years was raping a kid in the shower. Would you believe it? Would you want to believe it? Probably not the first time you hear it. Would you go to the police? What if the grad assistant was wrong and your friend's life is ruined because of a misunderstanding? You might not even want to explore the matter further because you can't tolerate the idea of someone you trusted doing such monstrous things. I think the reason Paterno went to his AD and didn't go to the cops is because it provided him with the chance to have it both ways. This way, he was able to "report" it, without having to be the person who takes the significantly braver step of actually calling the police. Problem solved. Conscience cleared.

That a great deal of people chose to do nothing after that is proof of how easily a cover-up can spontaneously take root and linger. We'd all like to think we'd do the noble thing when faced with such a seemingly obvious choice. The truth is, we might not. It's impossible to read the Sandusky allegations and not get a vivid mental image of what took place. It's enough to make you want to throw up, and I say that as someone who had a near miss with this sort of thing. It's enough to make you cry out for blood and ask why no one did anything. The outrage comes naturally. But underneath that outrage, there is a real sadness and fear, the idea that "good" people can still be hard-wired for self-preservation, even when faced with the ugliest truths. Even JoePa. Even you.

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202. "now it makes sense as to why "
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paterno was allowed to coach from the booth and continue his career for so long. the machine wanted to keep things in house for as long as humanly possible. until this...


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203. "just read part of the indictment...jesus"
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206. "What blows my mind is how easily this could have been solved."
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Fire Sandusky. Call the police. Boom. It's now the problem of one fucked up guy and not a university.

When you have a guy so reckless that he's fucking little boys in public showers associated with your school, a guy who clearly has a problem that isn't going away, you're never going to be able to cover it up. Ever.

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222. "well at the time of the 2002 incident he was "retired" but there's no..."
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telling how far back this shit goes. I doubt if anyone STARTS molesting kids in their late 50's.

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234. "yeah, that the wild (?) thing about this "
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really, if they start looking into this going back years, there is no telling what kind of skeltons are going to come out of this.

  

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208. "This is one of those reminders of how fucked up the world really is"
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211. "RE: State Pen coach indicted on felony charges sex crimes against minors"
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What I don't understand when things like this come to light is how one of these kid's fathers hasn't gone after the alleged perp. I am pretty much a pacifist, I haven't thrown a punch at someone else in 17 years. That said as a father, if I found out someone raped my son... I can't imagine that'd I'd be able to let justice take its course... someone would have to die.

Don't misundersand what I am saying, I am not calling out any of these fathers- I don't even want to imagine their pain. There are 8 cases on the dockett, I just find it weird one of those guys hasn't tried to go old testament.

  

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213. "that's one of the sickest thing, he started a foundation for"
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boys from broken homes.

so, in most cases, the dads probably weren't around.

it's like the most predatory, awful thing you can imagine.

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216. "RE: that's one of the sickest thing, he started a foundation for"
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Didn't even think about it from that angle. I mean could the evil fuck have started that charity up just so he'd have a chance to prey on these kids?

  

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239. "Yep, plus kids without fathers are probably confused about what is..."
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and what isn't appropriate contact between them and an adult male. A sexual predator is just that, a predator. They don't just pick kids randomly, they choose their " prey" very wisely.

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215. "power is an awe-inspiring thing."
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And if you live in the Central PA area, and someone from the Penn St Power Brokers mafia (nationally famous successor to Joe Pa) wrongs you, it's unlikely you're going to do anything about it.

It's why most rapes go unreported.
It's why kids can be molested for so long.

Power is everything. That's what rape is.

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217. "Think about how he met these kids. "
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They were kids from his charity which was set up for at risk children. So they were likely coming from homes where they probably don't have strong parental support. For all we know, Sandusky may have specifically targeted kids in families where he KNEW he would get away with this.

  

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212. "Why is Joe Pa still employed?"
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248. "no idea but that needs to end immediately, FUCK JOE PA"
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214. "here's a link to the grand jury's full indictment:"
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http://www.freep.com/assets/freep/pdf/C4181508116.PDF

it doesn't take but two pages to realize how fully fucked this situation is. Completely unfathomable that this happened.

  

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Just revolting.

  

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229. "my GOD."
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i wish i hadn't read the whole thing.

fuck you.

  

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238. "i read the whole thing. i don't even have words to describe how "
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sick and wrong this is.

this creep had a whole m.o., and ran it on all of these little boys. they documented 8 victims here. but undoubtedly there were scores more. no way he was doing this with *just* these kids.

he was married and had adopted kids, too?

*stomach turns*.

this is so incredibly foul and i'm incensed at all of these people who let this bullshit continue, unabated.

i tend to be detached in reading about the catholic church shit. maybe because a lot of the allegations were further in the past. or i didn't have any other historical markers to make it real.

but the thought of this creep, under the guise of helping these children, doing these vile things to them... its just sickening.

they need to dead the entire PSU program. i can see, even though it ain't right, somebody overlooking some sexual harassment. or maybe the 'appearance' of inappropriate adult/child activity. or perhaps of physical abuse. wanting to second guess on some, 'maybe it isn't what it LOOKS like'.

but a guy comes up to you and tells you a 58 year old is in YOUR team's showers fucking a 10yr old boy and THAT GETS IGNORED?!???!??????

and the numerous instances were folks just banned him from certain places, like, 'don't come around HERE fucking no little boys'... he should have been in prison.


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341. "i had to stop. will read in its entirety just to be informed"
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>sick and wrong this is.
>
>this creep had a whole m.o., and ran it on all of these little
>boys. they documented 8 victims here. but undoubtedly there
>were scores more. no way he was doing this with *just* these
>kids.
>
>he was married and had adopted kids, too?
>
>*stomach turns*.
>
>this is so incredibly foul and i'm incensed at all of these
>people who let this bullshit continue, unabated.
>
>i tend to be detached in reading about the catholic church
>shit. maybe because a lot of the allegations were further in
>the past. or i didn't have any other historical markers to
>make it real.
>
>but the thought of this creep, under the guise of helping
>these children, doing these vile things to them... its just
>sickening.
>
>they need to dead the entire PSU program. i can see, even
>though it ain't right, somebody overlooking some sexual
>harassment. or maybe the 'appearance' of inappropriate
>adult/child activity. or perhaps of physical abuse. wanting to
>second guess on some, 'maybe it isn't what it LOOKS like'.
>
>but a guy comes up to you and tells you a 58 year old is in
>YOUR team's showers fucking a 10yr old boy and THAT GETS
>IGNORED?!???!??????
>
>and the numerous instances were folks just banned him from
>certain places, like, 'don't come around HERE fucking no
>little boys'... he should have been in prison.
>
but its ROUGH.

  

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292. "Wow, brutal in most cases, creepy in all. Cops complicit here, too"
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That janitor was making noise, the grad assistant, etc.

This is a whole shitshow, school, athletic department, staff, law enforcement and maybe local government.

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219. "Has Lavar Arrington or any other former PSU players commented yet?"
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233. "RE: Has Lavar Arrington or any other former PSU players commented yet?"
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/hard-hits/post/jerry-sandusky-news-shocking-to-this-former-player/2011/11/07/gIQAO7oVvM_blog.html

  

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235. "he coulda kept that."
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lol

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240. "It's real, you gotta understand that this dude was probably like a..."
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father figure to him and lot of other players. To find something like this was going on the whole time is a lot to process.

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241. "right, which is why he shoulda kept it."
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he needs time to process what he's learning. i'm sure it's hard on him and everyone else in a similar position. none of them should make statements right now, IMO.

fuck you.

  

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243. "eh, I feel that's about as mature a response as can be expected"
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certainly sounded better than the bullshit the school itself has churned out thus far.

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245. "I disagree, I think it would be interesting to hear what Sandusky's..."
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real-life adult sons as well as his wife have to say too and what did they observe and how much did they know.

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223. "so the first victim in the indictment was YEARS after the shower"
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incident that mcqueary reported?

this is fucked.

oh wait the mcqueary incident is part of the indictment too.

still. this is fucked.

i still blame hip-hop.

  

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shortly after that but maintained an " assistant coach emeritus" title and an office on campus. Everybody knew him as Paterno's right hand man and he probably had as much pull around State College as Joe himself.

On the ESPN press conference today with the PA state police and attorney general they said that also prior to the 2002 incident janitors had observed similar shower scenes with Sandusky and children but they didn't report it because they feared for their jobs.

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230. "jesus"
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as much as i tend to agree with the "how would you not immediately physically intervene?" response, i can see how if something that fucked up happened at work you would be too shocked to respond immediately and physically. i can see that.

but after some consideration how can your job be worth enough to you that you would ignore the raping of children?

i would hope that no job and no amount of money could have me looking the other way on that.

this is so gross.

i still blame hip-hop.

  

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232. "1 dude who saw a shower rape damn-nearly had a heart attack."
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he could barely report it to his supervisor.

fuck you.

  

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236. "For the record, I agree with you but...."
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>as much as i tend to agree with the "how would you not
>immediately physically intervene?" response, i can see how if
>something that fucked up happened at work you would be too
>shocked to respond immediately and physically. i can see
>that.
>
>but after some consideration how can your job be worth enough
>to you that you would ignore the raping of children?
>
>i would hope that no job and no amount of money could have me
>looking the other way on that.
>
>this is so gross.

... Put yourself in those janitor's shoes. You're making $9.50 an hour and you observe multiple instances of molestation involving JoePa's right hand man. Are you really going to risk destroying a program, losing your wife/kids AND get blackballed?

The me of right now would report it without question. 10+ years down the line when I have x amount of kids, cars and mortgages, might not be able to call the police.

No empathy for white misery (c) BDot

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246. "yeah, i almost made an addendum to this effect"
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i'm sure a penn state janitor gets more pay and better benefits than your average janitor, and i'm lucky to be in a situation where i have to take the best janitorial job i can get.

it was a tough situation for them, and being a single person with a decent job and a decent education to where i'm relatively employable makes it hard for me to relate.

but it's still scary/gross.

i still blame hip-hop.

  

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224. "Sandusky worked out in the PSU weight room several times last week"
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just shoot me.

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231. "RE: Sandusky worked out in the PSU weight room several times last week"
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>just shoot me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zy3ZJAAO1kg

  

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237. "Dickhead also met with media yesterday in a PSU jacket"
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This guy is one disgusting motherfucker.

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242. "smh"
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251. "was McCreary spotting him?"
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how much cake were they throwing that dude under the table to keep his mouth shut...

  

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249. "Mike Francesa is killin"
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me talkin about this shit

Wanna hit it from the back, she agreed that im looney,but proceed to moon me, IM GETTIN MONEY NIGGA (c) King Jaffe Joffer

  

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255. "he just mentioned DA who declined to prosecute yrs back coming up missi..."
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Computer + harddrive deemed unrecoverable...

After his complete disappearance he was ruled deceased 7 yrs later..?

  

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256. "yeah i was listening to that too"
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>
> Computer + harddrive deemed unrecoverable...
>
> After his complete disappearance he was ruled deceased 7 yrs
>later..?

that seems like a rather big fucking deal and they just dropped it

  

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250. "SMH at Mike Missanelli copping pleas for JoePa"
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UGH

http://media.975thefanatic.com/Blogs/1001472/NK_MissanelliPaterno_11611.mp3

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252. "sounds like former players didn't even know about the first"
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incident that was seen by the assistant. not even a rumor on a gossipying college campus know less? very strange. they really kept that shit under wraps.

this has to be the worst sport cover up (decades worth) that i've ever seen unfold.

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254. "hearing lavar on 106.7..."
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just...damn.

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259. "summarize?"
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278. "RE: summarize?"
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http://washington.cbslocal.com/2011/11/07/lavar-responds-to-sandusky-allegations/

Today on 106.7 The Fan in Washington, D.C. former Penn State All-American linebacker LaVar Arrington responded to the allegations to his former coach and mentor, Jerry Sandusky.

“Whatever it may be, what I do know is that no one wins in this. The people that lose the most by this are the kids and the families impacted by this.”

Arrington said the allegations totally caught him off guard and moved him to tears. “I looked at my children, because immediately I started thinking back to all the moments I had at Penn State, and all them moments I had with him . I just thinking to myself how hard I worked to please him, and how hard i worked to please Joe. How hard we all worked to please these guys, and to have this happen…I am upset, I am shocked, and I am disappointed.”

Listen to the full segment here:

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253. "I read that Grand Jury Indictment and just wow"
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8 known victims!!

Dating as far back as 1994? IMO, JoePa and others on his staff had to have known.

Shit head took multiple victims to the team hotel to stay over night with him in the same hotel room before games? Wow.

Shit head even took one victim (that we know of) with him to the Outback and Alamo bowls in 98 and 99? Naw, someone had to have known.

Shit head even took victims to team practices and coaching meetings? No one found it a bit odd to have some 10-13 year old kid in a coaching meeting while they are preparing for Ohio State?

One of the victims even appeared in a picture with Shit head during an SI article? Same victim even appeared on some LB coaching tape that Shit head had made?

Shit heads antics and acts were so out in the open that others in the program had to have known and turned a blind eye to all this.

Naw JoePa has to go over this.

PSU students and fans should not attend another game until JoePa is gone as head coach.



  

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257. "yeah, that's the crazy part, this wasn't some low-level creep just lurin..."
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kids to his basement, this was public figured parading the kids around in public places and all over the country plus he's married with his own adult children and I'm presuming grandkids as well. Like I said earlier, I'm sure he probably didn't just start molesting kids in his late 50's, I'm sure this has been going for a while and I'm sure a lot more people knew about it.

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260. "exactly. and fuck kinda response is 'just don't come HERE anymore"
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with the child touching'.

think about if it was a PLAYER that was rapey, let alone doing ish like this to underage girls. like, not even children, but 16 year olds, w/ a player taking them and assaulting them IN TEAM FACILITIES.

serially.

but its a creepy ass old man and he's doing this to pre-pubescent children? and flying kids around all over the place.

i mean, you hear about some shit like this and you know that dude runs a high profile children's charity and you. don't. say. shit.

they gotta dead that whole program. let everybody transfer to another d-1 school w/ scholly's paid for by penn state. but they need to shut the whole shit down over this.

ultimately none of the other collegiate sports scandals have nothing on this.


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262. "I completely agree with everything you just typed"
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Kids have gotten kicked off of PSU's football team and had their characters tarnished for lesser crimes, some that weren't even true, at PSU under JoePa.

Getting caught at PSU with some weed or a fight at a house party? GET THE FUCK OUT OF PENN STATE YOU PIECE OF SHIT KID, NOT IN OUR IVORY TOWER ON A HILL.

Sanduscky fucking kids in the gym showers? That's cool for JoePa and PSU faculty, just try not to do it at PSU please.

  

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266. "except baylor, but otherwise agreed"
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>ultimately none of the other collegiate sports scandals have
>nothing on this.

i still blame hip-hop.

  

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261. "Exactly, this guy was out in the open for everyone to see"
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It would be one thing if this just happened at his house and in his basement but taking the kids to practice, games, bowl games, a coaches meeting?

He took kids he was molesting into a coaches meeting? I am not a CFB head coach but that does strike me as a little strange. Bringing kids to the team hotel to stay the night before you are playing a big home game against Michigan? Oh and this often happened when his wife wasn't around?

Like you said Truth, this didn't just start happening in the 90's. He started his foundation back in 77 so you know this has been going on for decades. JoePa coached this guy at PSU and then helped him through the coaching ranks and build his career, JoePa knew this man for decades, he had to have been a bit suspicious or heard some whispers. No way did a switch just flip in this guy and he just starts doing this in the 90's.

  

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277. "I disagree with this part"
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>Shit head even took one victim (that we know of) with him to
>the Outback and Alamo bowls in 98 and 99? Naw, someone had to
>have known.
>
>Shit head even took victims to team practices and coaching
>meetings? No one found it a bit odd to have some 10-13 year
>old kid in a coaching meeting while they are preparing for
>Ohio State?
>
>One of the victims even appeared in a picture with Shit head
>during an SI article? Same victim even appeared on some LB
>coaching tape that Shit head had made?
>
>Shit heads antics and acts were so out in the open that others
>in the program had to have known and turned a blind eye

Because on the surface, he was a pillar of the community, dedicated family man, and devoid to his charity. Right today, if I saw jerry lewis with one if the kids from the telethon, I certainly wouldn't be thinking "oh, he's out and about with one of the kids from his charity?? I bet he's fucking that kid."

That's not gonna be anyone's first thought... Unless, you know, you saw him raping a child in the locker room

*Jews you*

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289. "I agree and disagree with this part in regards to Sandusky"
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>if I saw jerry lewis with one if the kids from the telethon, I
>certainly wouldn't be thinking "oh, he's out and about with
>one of the kids from his charity?? I bet he's fucking that
>kid."

I agree that if I saw Jerry Lewis with Timmy from the telethon I am not going to think anything of it. However, I don't know Jerry Lewis on a personal level and have no relationship with him or know him well enough to have walked in on him with some kid in the showers. I definitely haven't spent 30 years runnig telethons with Lewis.

JoePa had known Sandusky for 30 years and other coaches also knew Sandusky well from working and coaching with him for years. These coaches traveled with Sandusky and probably spent more time with Sandusky during CFB season than theydid with their wives and family. For them to not have any idea, seen him act a little bit inappropriate around a kid, here a kid say something about Sandusky or even walk in on Sandusky in the showers with a kid almost seem impossible.

This guy didn't just wake up at the age of 50 and become a pedophiliac, he had to have been doing this for a long time. He had to have slipped up once in the decades before and someone on that staff or even Joe himself had to have seen or suspected something.

  

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311. "actually, knowing someone is great cover"
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JoePa knows and trust Sandusky. So why would he think he's a pedo? he knows him and likes him and Sundusky's done right by him for years.

those closest to something like this are often the most oblivious.

now, once it's been brought to your attention ONCE, there's no excuse. but until then? nah, i get not even thinking of the possibility.

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324. "At the earliest Joe had to know by 1998 when police"
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had that first complaint from a mother of one of the children and conducted an investigation. I would think Joe would have known about that investigation in 98 or made aware of it by someone.

So Joe had to know in 98 something strange was up and of course Joe knew in 02.

  

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338. "oh yeah, not defending Paterno's laissez faire approach"
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of do the legal minimum here.

just noting that a lot of times, people close to someone are the most likely to interpret something in the most positive manner (what a great mentor! sharing with so many different children!) instead of the more negative manner (why so many kids? why never anyone older than 15? really, your hotel room?!?!?)

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281. "No. Much of that makes sense in the context of a man "
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that loves kids and made it a part of his life to be a strong role model and dynamic impact.

What doesn't make sense is his changing kids that often. THAT, IMO, should have set off alarm bells.

The 11 year old you were mentoring, taking everywhere and fretting over is suddenly done with you at 14 or 15? Again?

What part of that isn't alarming?

I can see the idea of trusting the process of his program and that MAYBE the program has a limited span in which kids are active.

But he went far beyond the actual program with specific kids.

Another issue I see is just how serial this was. Where timelines were clearly laid out, in each case (that I remember), he waited until their 2nd year in the program.

Got them and their gaurdians/parents hooked then went in. A true predator.

There is no way to find justice in this other than it will stop.

They need to find ALL of the kids that were impacted and get them help. I wonder if he assaulted his boys and his foster kids.

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288. "You are right and I should have expanded on that thought "
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A little more.

Picking a kid to mentor my not seem strange in the context of his organization but the constant changing of kids and showing that kid a lot of interest only to drop him and pick up a new one would raise some flags.

  

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263. "the more details that come out, the sicker i get."
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even more so now that penn state figureheads/administrators didn't do a goddamned thing about it and are looking like enablers.

  

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271. "i know he's out on bail but his family might wanna be on suicide watch"
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'cause his life's over either way..

  

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273. "he should kill himself, that would be more mercy than he deserves"
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275. "im just waiting to hear about joe pa passing from a heart attack"
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not joking, this is some heavy shit to try and get through for a man that age.

  

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279. "he already looks incredibly weary and tired all the time"
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granted he's in his 80s, but still..he always had that quip or that certain aura...now he looks beaten and battered..


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264. "sad."
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Paterno and Spanier should resign immediately. willful ignorance is not an excuse for men in their position.

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282. "why isnt this bigger news?"
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im looking at cnn.com and google news etc and it just seems this is a basic story when it is obviously anything but. smh. heads need to roll asap.

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but people are more concerned with herman cain and monday night football coverage.

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284. "I initially thought that University staff weren't mandatory"
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reporters. Now that it's been established that they are, they should all be sent to prison.

Firing?

No.

I totally realize reprisal based justice doesn't accomplish much.

Disgust shouldn't impair reason either.

And still I feel they should all be in prison. JoePa. McQuery, all of them. It was their job to do something.

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285. "If it somehow comes out that the "missing" DA is somehow tied..."
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to this it will definitely be the biggest sports related scandal in history, bigger than the Baylor basketball incident, in some respects it already is when you consider how many kids have been affected and how long it's potentially been going on and who all actually knew it was going on all these years

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286. "killing sandusky wouldve been the most reasonable choice"
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before offing a DA

  

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290. "This entire thing is so bizarre and unbelievable to begin with..."
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I probably wouldn't be surprised by anything else that comes out

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293. "seriously, they could come out tomorrow & say Paterno participated"
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with Sandusky and I would no longer be shocked.

It's reached that level of depravity.

Because the lengths he went to not do shit about this are suspicious as hell to me anyway.

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287. "Are they seriously going to pretend this isn't happening?"
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Joe Pa's press conference is still on for tomorrow, and apparently he's only addressing questions related to the game... yeah good luck with that. Should just cancel it, shit cancel the game.

I'd be worried about dude's health @ this pt

  

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294. "does Howard Stern still send rogue reporters in to press conferences?"
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because this would be a great time to do so & toss out the most offensive questions possible.

I'm not worried about Joe Paterno's health because he didn't worry enough about the health of impressionable kids whose lives have been ruined due to his bullshit-ass 'chain of command' approach to handling this issue.

He's in his mid-80s, lived like a king for decades & did nothing to stop at least ten years (but likely more) of destruction to countless kids victimized by this sick fuck (and yes, in a situation like this with the patterns & repeated allegations/witnesses, this dude is already guilty in my eyes).

Fuck Joe Paterno for real.

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296. "the definitive radio interview on this: francesca with former beat repor..."
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http://newyork.cbslocal.com/audio-on-demand/mike-francesa-1/#

the kim jones clip. they explain the rumors that were around post 2002 and how likely it is that joe knew everything.

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297. "calm rational ESPN reporting (swipe)"
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In State College, they bill it as being Penn State Proud. It's just another hokey rah-rah catchphrase conjured up to make us alumni feel good. Truth is, Penn Staters are no prouder than Ohio Staters or Alabama fans. College athletics live and thrive because of the personal connections its alumni experience.

Penn Staters right now aren't proud and they aren't merely embarrassed. They're hurt. The child-sex abuse allegations against former defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky and the news that two administrators failed to report them have rocked the fan and alumni base to its core.

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Michael Hickey/US PresswireJoe Paterno will attempt to focus his team on Nebraska while enduring media scrutiny this week.

They are angry, but mostly they are hurt.

It's a unique reaction. Typically when a university comes under some sort of scrutiny, the alums and fans come out on the attack. Someone else is to blame: the media, an angry third party, the NCAA.

There's no other entity to blame here, no search for a logical explanation. The allegations against Sandusky are impossible to comprehend, but it is the inaction that has people equally confused.

People simply want to know, "How?" How could five grown men -- Penn State president Graham Spanier, athletic director Tim Curley, vice president for finance and business Gary Schultz, football coach Joe Paterno and graduate assistant Mike McQueary -- fail to turn this over to authorities?

If the Duke lacrosse case has taught us anything, we don't know what we don't know.

Knee-jerk reaction is easy and Twitter right now is afire with it.

But determining true guilt and assessing real blame, even involving the most heinous of crimes, is difficult business and one that I am surely not qualified to handle.

Then again, neither is a football coach, an athletic director or a university president.

There are people charged with the tricky jobs of investigating crimes, procuring indictments and determining guilt or innocence.

They have expertise, intelligence and most important, impartiality.

Why weren't those people ever contacted?

Turning this matter over to authorities alone would not have indicted Sandusky. It would merely say that there was a concern, one big enough that it could constitute a reprehensible crime, and that the people with the skills to handle it ought to be involved.

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ESPN reporter Jeremy Schaap says Penn State coach Joe Paterno is in no legal danger right now from the controversy at the school, but he will have to answer some difficult questions about what he did and didn't know.

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Yet it never happened. That's the hard part for Penn Staters. We can't explain what Sandusky is accused of because we can't imagine it.

We can imagine being placed in a position to do the right thing.

And more, we thought Penn State represented the one place where doing the right thing still mattered.

Penn State people believed in one thing: The last real hero in college athletics was on their sideline. Perhaps his time had passed. Maybe the recruits weren't lining up as they once did, but Paterno would go down as the rare man who stood his ground in a morally bankrupt and corrupt business.

There would never be another like him, a man who passed up more lucrative opportunities to instead build a one-time agricultural school into a national name brand; a coach who thought so much of academics that he donated his money to build a library; a football man who somehow spent 40-plus years in the business without so much as a whiff of an NCAA violation.

And now what?

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AP Photo/Damian DovarganesPenn State fans have built Paterno into an icon in college sports.

Now what are we supposed to believe?

The attorney general has said Paterno did the right thing; by turning over his information about Sandusky to his superior, he fulfilled his legal obligation.

The problem is, we've come to expect more than just meeting an obligation from Paterno. We expect and believe that he has a moral compass that would propel him to do more, to pound his shoe on a desk and demand an investigation.

Is it reasonable? Maybe not. Who's to know how any of us would truly react when faced with such an unfathomable piece of news about someone we've known for 30-plus years? Who's to know exactly what Paterno was told?

Heroes and role models, we know, are a dangerous thing. Missteps are too easy, people too often are not what they appear to be.

The 84-year-old man with the Coke-bottle glasses and the high-water pants personified Penn State and what is right about sports.

And more, he never let us down.

That's why Penn Staters are simply devastated right now. There is a terrible sense of disappointment about what wasn't done and what should have been done.

I can't imagine what Saturday's football game will be like. I know fans will flock to Beaver Stadium for their weekly fall pilgrimage. They will tailgate and cheer and before kickoff, sing the alma mater.

Will they stumble when they get to this part?

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302. "no offense, but I don't really give a shit how Penn Staters feel"
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sorry they're sad about their university, but that point pales in comparison to the real issues here.


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331. "what real issue? justice is about to be served"
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336. "motherfucker, justice will NEVER be served"
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and far too often it is not.

so what sandusky gets jail time if he doesn't kill himself before???

the victims, what do they get? satisfaction that the dude who did shit to them when they were kids is in jail? yeah, i'm sure that'll make all the bad go away.

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339. "they're about to make serious bank too in a civil suit/settlement"
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but even money's not much to hang your hat on when you got raped as a child.

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347. "HOW THE KIDS F*CKING FEEL."
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ESPECIALLY the ones who got RAPED in the 8 years between when PSU officials knew about this, and when it finally got brought to light.

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298. "Not many people hate PSU more than me..."
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And this is all just so sad that you can't even let your hate come through.

I legit feel bad for PSU students,employees,alum, fans and everyone involved with the school.. Obviously for victims too they are the #1 thing I feel bad for, but in terms of college football I just feel for them.

When schools go down for cheating and things like that I don't feel bad for the fans because they still got the spoils of all of the wins and everything else. This is just a big black eye on everyone associated with the university.

This is also a really big lesson to all college sports fans to realize that nobody in this business is 100% clean. Don't put your faith and trust in anybody involved with running your college's football program because they are not above anything.
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299. "Front Page of Harrisburg Patriot-News calls for Spanier, Paterno out"
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http://www.newseum.org/todaysfrontpages/hr.asp?fpVname=PA_PN&ref_pge=lst

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303. "i find it disturbing that sandusky still gets the 'legend' tag "
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in any article.

sorry, you forfeited that the minute the indictments came up. now you're just jerry sandusky, sick bastard.

  

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328. "that should be printed and posted as picket signs throughout Central PA...."
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...i've NEVER scene an op-ed piece take up a whole FRONT PAGE! no pics. no byline. nothin'. that's some newsroom anger there.

  

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301. "Joe Pa needs to call it quits today."
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304. "at minimum he needs to address it head on."
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if he's silly enough to think people are only going to ask about this week's game its going to get hella ugly this afternoon.

  

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306. "No, the minimum is quitting right now."
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It's what a real leader would do.

He should've been fired four days ago anyway.

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307. "sure you're right, but I mean just at the presser specifically"
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309. "PSU alum here @ work says he will resign today"
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according to all the hearsay between trustees and notable alumni.


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312. "Gotta be why they canceled the press concerence"
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305. "Put Joe in jail too... let them all pay for this shit"
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308. "HOl UP CUZZ..Sandusky brought a kid to a 07 closed practice??!!!"
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JOE PA should FRY too.....FUCK THAT!!!...

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310. "he held a kids camp ON CAMPUS in 2009"
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just heard this on the mike francesa show. apparently a brochure about the event was sent to deadspin.


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313. "yeah i heard that too..DOUBLE WOW is all i can say"
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314. "damn anybody watching Matt Millen breaking down on Sportscenter?"
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315. "And today's presser is cancelled..."
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At some point, Ol' Man JoePa is going to have to face the music. I don't know if his senile mind will be able to handle the heat.

  

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320. "i believe paterno actually wanted to do the press conference"
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unfortunately, he's old and senile and can't handle it, and the university knew you couldn't put him out there for this.

which, of course, raises the questions as to WHY THE FUCK EXACTLY HE WAS COACHING THE FUCKING FOOTBALL TEAM.

i knew something like this could happen. i never posted it here, but i've talked about it with my peeps. i KNEW something bad was going to come up that he couldn't handle. hell, he can't even handle getting out of the way at practive.

i'd be completely lying if i said i ever, ever, ever thought it could be this bad. or even 10 percent this bad.

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330. "Civil Suit"
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he's not being named in the present set of charges, but best believe he will be facing civil charges

PSU is going to be paying those kids ALOT of money



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316. "NYT reporting they are working his way out as coach"
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317. "Wetzel ethers Spanier:"
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http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=dw-wetzel_penn_state_spanier_silent110711

Over 16 years as Penn State’s president Graham Spanier earned a reputation for rarely turning down a media opportunity, no subject unworthy of his comment. He was known for never hesitating to personally call wealthy alums when a fundraising goal needed to be met.

You could hardly find an NCAA committee he didn’t sit on, if not chair, a chance to extend his influence beyond just State College. He’s done guest stints with the marching band, participated in intramural tournaments and run with the bulls wearing a Penn State shirt, lots of look-at-me everyman stuff.

Affable, likable and always available Graham Spanier was everywhere.

On Saturday the world collapsed around Penn State with the breaking of a sexual molestation and systematic cover-up case inside its athletic department. It’s left former football assistant Jerry Sandusky facing a slew of assault charges and athletic director Tim Curley and vice president Gary Schultz accused of perjury and failure to report the abuse of a minor.

The campus is overrun with anger, accusation and satellite trucks. Across the country Penn State is the center of the ugliest scandal college athletics has ever seen. The whole thing is a disaster, hour by hour sinking even deeper and deeper.

And Graham Spanier is suddenly nowhere to be found.

Not a spoken word from Mr. President. Not a single interview with the media he once courted. Not a speech. Not a rally. Not a meaningful explanation to his students and alumni.

Penn State is desperate for a leader, desperate for some stability, desperate for an adult to stand up tall like the school always thought it would and Spanier is somewhere under a desk, hiding.





The focus has zeroed in on Joe Paterno, the school’s legendary football coach. And while there are plenty of unanswered questions about his decision-making, it isn’t JoePa who runs the place. It’s not JoePa who oversees the entire campus, police department included. It wasn’t JoePa who signed off on the pathetic decision by Curley and Schultz to simply ban Sandusky from bringing children on campus rather than contact the cops.

“Call the police immediately,” Pennsylvania State Police Commissioner Frank Noonan said Monday. “How difficult is that? It’s not a high standard.”



Joe Paterno will do his weekly media obligations as scheduled on Tuesday, a Big Ten teleconference and then his usual press briefing. Penn State will try to keep the questions to football-only (good luck with that) but the old coach is at least willing to show his face in public.

Who knows where Spanier will be? Who knows where he has been? How do Sunday and Monday, two of the worst days the school will ever know, cruise by without a peep from its president?

There are as many questions about Spanier’s decision-making as Paterno’s, but all we’ve gotten from Spanier is a bizarre, inappropriate and heartless statement on Saturday.

“The allegations about a former coach are troubling, and it is appropriate that they be investigated thoroughly,” it read. “Protecting children requires the utmost vigilance.

“With regard to the other presentments, I wish to say that Tim Curley and Gary Schultz have my unconditional support. I have known and worked daily with Tim and Gary for more than 16 years. I have complete confidence in how they have handled the allegations about a former University employee.

“Tim Curley and Gary Schultz operate at the highest levels of honesty, integrity and compassion. I am confident the record will show that these charges are groundless and that they conducted themselves professionally and appropriately.”

That’s it. That’s all of it. Perhaps the biggest scandal higher education has ever seen and that’s what Spanier thought was all he needed to convey.

“The views of the President do not reflect the views of the students,” read a sign hanging on campus Monday.

In his statement Spanier expressed no concern for the victims. He conveyed no shock or regret that some of the alleged molestations occurred on his campus. There was no horror over the nature of the crimes. No apology for not doing more. No explanation for why he didn’t ask more questions, which may have led to someone demanding that they find the abused boy so at the very, very least they could ensure his safety and offer him the counseling he no doubt needed.

Nope. Nothing. Just nothing.

All he did was offer “unconditional support” for his two employees, an unfathomable line at this time. Unconditional? Really? So if Curley and Schultz are guilty then Spanier will still support them? That’s the definition of “unconditional.”

“A university president defending an indicted employee?” Pennsylvania State Sen. Jeffrey Piccola told the Harrisburg Patriot-News. “I mean, he shouldn’t make any judgment on guilt or innocence. That’s not his role. He needs to distance himself from that.”

Spanier has distanced himself from everything since then. It’s like he’s figures if he keeps his head down long enough, the blame will fall on everyone but him.


On Monday Attorney General Linda Kelly was definitive in saying Paterno is not a target in the on-going investigation. When asked about Spanier, she wouldn’t comment.

The grand jury’s “finding of fact” said Spanier did not know that the incident involving Sandusky was sexual in nature. Kelly, however, noted that he was the final administrator that “reviewed and approved … without further inquiry on his part” the unusual decision by Curley and Schultz to ban Sandusky bringing children on campus. Wouldn’t that be a red flag that might spur additional questions?





Spanier himself never called the cops, not even the Penn State’s own force, which just four years prior had conducted a lengthy investigation into other molestation accusations against Sandusky.

In 2002 did Spanier know about the 1998 inquiry?

“That investigation was handled by Penn State University’s police department,” Kelly said, the emphasis clear in her voice.

Perhaps Spanier is hiding out because he fears saying anything might cause him to be prosecuted. If so, then he’s not fit for the job. He must seek at least a temporary leave, if not a full resignation. The school needs someone credible to be in charge.

Instead Spanier seems intent on saving his own career rather than Penn State’s reputation.



The one silver lining of this ugly story has been the reaction of the Penn State family at large. This is a proud university, one where integrity meant something, and the scandal has been met not with excuse making but appropriate disgust.

Failed by its leaders, the community is rising up. This isn’t the real Penn State everyone is saying. This isn’t what we’re about, what we’ll ever, ever tolerate. Through these most trying of times, the rank and file – students, faculty, parents, alums – have fallen back on a shared sense of values, ethics and purpose. They won’t allow this to define their school.

It’s the best coming out of the worst.

It’d be a fine message for Spanier to express, someone to show there is a steady hand on the rudder as the storm rages. Instead he’s failing every test of leadership.

No explanations. No accountability. No apologies.

There’s been just a single abhorrent statement, self-centered and inappropriate, unconditional support for the accused, no mention of those victimized kids.

Instead the plan appears to be to send Joe Paterno out there, 84-years-old and hard of hearing. Let JoePa be the face of this thing. Let JoePa handle the fire, answer the questions, get picked apart by the national media. Let it all be about JoePa.

  

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318. "IS ANYBODY WATCHIN MATT MILLEN ON ESPN? WOW"
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what a bumbling moron! making excuses all over the place.

  

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321. "Cmon, he's going through it right now; dude broke down 20 mins ago"
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He's hurt, as I feel a lot of players associated w/ that program are. That being said, it sure takes alot of pressure off Buckeye fans, am I right? eh eh?

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319. "already posted"
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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/09/sports/ncaafootball/penn-state-said-to-be-planning-paternos-exit.html?_r=1&src=tp

  

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322. "Count is up to NINE (swipe)"
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http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/11312/1188373-100.stm

Alleged Sandusky victim contacts state police
Tuesday, November 08, 2011
The Associated Press
A state police criminal investigator says another potential victim has contacted authorities in the child sexual abuse investigation of former Penn State defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky.

Lt. David Young, who commands the criminal investigation section at the Montoursville-based station, said today that the man, now an adult, contacted the department on Sunday after seeing media accounts of Mr. Sandusky's arrest.

Lt. Young says investigators took a statement from him and forwarded it to the Rockview station.

The new victim was first reported by The Patriot-News of Harrisburg, which said the man is in his 20s, knew Mr. Sandusky from The Second Mile charity and had never told his parents or authorities about the alleged incidents from about a decade ago.

Lt. Young isn't releasing details about what the man claims occurred.

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325. "We'll never know how many there were..."
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I'm sure there are plenty of victims that are now men that won't come forward at all.

  

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323. "this is without hyperbole the shittiest way to go out."
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like.

dogg.

I'm really stunned by these allegations.

and I've sort of gained a hate of Penn State by osmosis. now? I don't even really want to talk about 'em.

this is like the worst of the worst.

  

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340. "way worse than Woody Hayes, who is considered the standard"
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in trainwreck ending.

  

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342. "no comparison."
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344. "what a maroon"
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Hell I'd take Woodys exit over DickRods

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326. "lucky that other shit got locked before i could respond"
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ppl already have their minds made up on this shit regardless so whatever
for me personally....... i'm not discounting dudes legacy or his place among college coaches
let's the courts punish those who deserve to be punished.

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329. "oh you mean let the courts throw eryone in the slammer?? "
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bcz at this point anybody that knew about this shit is fair game...and THEY ALL KNEW....

>ppl already have their minds made up on this shit regardless
>so whatever
>for me personally....... i'm not discounting dudes legacy or
>his place among college coaches
>let's the courts punish those who deserve to be punished.
>

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332. "3 dudes are going to jail. and they will probably get heavy sentences"
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333. "lucky for who? u for not continuing to look like a dumbass on the issue?"
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FOH.

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335. "i'll be the dumbass and let yall continue with the public lynching"
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337. "^^^ enabler"
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just an example for anyone who wanted to know how this could be possible


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346. "BITCH I'LL LYNCH ANYBODY THAT CONSPIRES TO PROTECT CHILD RAPISTS"
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Fuck is wrong with you?

Read the fucking reports, connect a few dots, this ain't a 'wait & see' benefit of the doubt situation here.

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407. "i'm speaking SPECIFICALLY about joepa"
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all them other muthafuckers i feel u on
i'm just saying let's get more information before we just automatically assume joepa knew the full extent of what was going on

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417. "he definitely knew, it's just a matter of why he didn't do more"
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i'm sort of with you riding the fence on this and it doesn't change what he did football wise or in terms of building up the school or college football in the region.

it's not like paterno COMMITTED the crime, that would tarnish everything. as it is, to me, this is just a disgusting, shameful exit that has no bearing on his accomplishments to this point.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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442. "he committed a crime here to me whether punishable by law or not"
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and I can say that his accomplishments on the field mean little to me now as I have lost all respect for him as a man.

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345. "JoePa testified he knew."
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He was told of something probably sexual, involving a boy, a shower and his 30 year assistant.

End of story. Go troll your devil's advocate bullshit somewhere else.


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367. "That is giving him the benefit of doubt"
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I am sure Joe knew before 2002. He had to have known as early as 98 when a mother of one of the boys filed a complaint with police. Joe would have had to hear about the police investigating an a potential incident involving a child and his DC.

  

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373. "agree. Make's SPM's stance more laughable."
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408. "why isn't he being prosecuted then?"
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i'll search tho to see if this is true

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533. "b/c right now the DA is really going after people who lied during testim..."
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That is what Curley and Schultz are going to go down on.

JoePa told the truth during testimony. Which is that the grad assistant mentioned the sexual nature.

Have you read a single thing about this case or are you just talking out of your ass?

JoePa knew.
JoePa knew.
JoePa knew.

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327. "also not sure it was posted in here. but the original DA was murdered"
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after finding out about this shit......
the DA who first looked into this case came up ghost, after he decided to not investigate further after getting a phone confession from sandusky
this shit may be deeper than we know.....

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334. "it was several years after the original decision not to file charges"
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as i understand it, but it's definitely worth looking into any potential connections.

i feel like this rabbit hole might go as deep as anyone chooses to follow it.

i still blame hip-hop.

  

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348. "this fucking school president..."
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http://live.psu.edu/story/56238#rss49

UNIVERSITY PARK, PA – Following an executive session held Sunday night (Nov. 6), members of Penn State’s Board of Trustees and President Graham Spanier received a request from athletic director Tim Curley to be placed on administrative leave so he can devote the time needed to defend himself against recent allegations by the Pennsylvania Attorney General. Gary Schultz, interim senior vice president for finance and business, will step down so that he also can defend himself and return to retirement.

Both men have been charged with failure to report and perjury. Both deny any wrongdoing.

“The board, along with the entire Penn State family, is shocked and saddened by the allegations involving former assistant coach Jerry Sandusky,” said Steve Garban, chairman. “Under no circumstances does the University tolerate behavior that would put children at risk, and we are deeply troubled.”

Sandusky retired from the University in 1999.

Schultz, who served as senior vice president of finance and business and University treasurer from 1993 until his retirement in 2009, recently returned to Penn State in an interim capacity to help the University transition as it fills the position. The University has been interviewing candidates for the post and expects to fill the position in the coming weeks.

Spanier said that Senior Associate Athletic Director Mark Sherburne will serve as interim athletic director until Curley’s legal situation is resolved.

“The protection of children is of paramount importance,” said Spanier. “The University will take a number of actions moving forward to increase the safety and security within our facilities and make everyone aware of the protocols in place for handling these issues.”

Garban announced the following steps:

1. The chair of the board will appoint a task force to engage external legal counsel to conduct an independent review of the University’s policies and procedures related to the protection of children. This action is not intended to interfere with the ongoing judicial process;

2. Publicize the findings of the independent review;

3. Review with administrators police reporting protocols; and

4. Enhance educational programming around such topics.

“Members of the Board of Trustees reinforced that Penn State is committed to honesty, integrity, and upholding the highest ideals,” said Garban.

  

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350. "this isn't locking the barn door after the horses ran out"
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this is unlocking the barn door after the entire rest of the barn burned with the horses still inside.

i still blame hip-hop.

  

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352. "god damn, spanier!"
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https://twitter.com/chuck4prez

  

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359. "ah yes, a review of policies and procedures will do the trick"
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jesus. they are fucking clueless.

i mean, i get it. revise your policy so that you don't allow children to be on campus anywhere without their parent or guardian, etc.

but touting that as your solution to this whole goddamn mess? when i'm pretty sure there was already a policy in place that says if you see a child being raped, you call the fucking cops.

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349. "A disgusting example of institutional control and power"
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It's mind-numbing at the number of disgusting and revolting actions that have gone down from all parties involved, for this long of a time. This was a cover-up of such magnitude, involving such sick acts, that it's almost impossible to wrap your head around.

I'm disgusted and the entire PSU football program should be dismantled because there is no greater example in college football of the abuse of power and control that was exhibited all these years in covering up what Sandusky did and continued to do.

The fact that THEY KNEW WHAT HE WAS DOING AND ONLY SAID "JUST DON'T BRING THE KIDS ONTO CAMPUS" is some of the absolute sickest shit I've ever heard of in life. These dudes were ok in allowing more kids to get raped and allowing Sandusky to use the PSU FUCKING NAME as a vehicle to lure them in rather than call the police and taint the University name. Fucking my god.

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355. "^^ yup, pretty open + shut to me"
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this shit is sick. that whole "just don't do it here" shit is DEE-sturbing.

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361. "and that mandate was ignored by sandusky"
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>The fact that THEY KNEW WHAT HE WAS DOING AND ONLY SAID "JUST
>DON'T BRING THE KIDS ONTO CAMPUS"

  

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383. "Yep and the people who placed that mandate on him "
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were still at PSU and interacting with him. It wasn't as if Sandusky was trying to hide what he was doing, he was thumbing his nose at all of those who knew about his "mandate" and still didn't give a fuck as he brought more kids on campus.

  

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353. "WFAN reporting that joe pa is headed to practice today"
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he's obviously going to have to be physically removed of his duties cause he ain't letting go

this is sad, sad, sad

they're also reporting that sandusky was commonly known to players as nothing more than a 'weird guy' in the weight room and that the strength coach wanted nothing to do with him

  

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354. "he could be going to inform players of his resignation"
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356. "man this dude aint quittin theyre gonna have to can his stubborn old ass"
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What a sad, sordid end.

His entire legacy is irrevocably sullied & for what?

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357. "not according to kim jones who interviewed the family"
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scott paterno said joe plans on coaching this weekend

he ain't letting go

  

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358. "reports from his home this morning said he was planning to coach"
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this weekend.

per kim jones on francesca, who has been near the front of this.

i still blame hip-hop.

  

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360. "Nah, he's done"
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they might let him finish the season, but there is no way a new AD and President are going to let him keep his job


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362. "i'm just relaying joe's purported state of mind right now"
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i think he should be fired this second and if he isn't pelini shouldn't let his kids board the plane. that's where i stand. i was just relaying what i heard about paterno's mindframe.

i still blame hip-hop.

  

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365. "they won't allow him to hold his weekly press conference"
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but they'll let him coach this weekend?

and then what?

he keeps silent

nah, he's done


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366. "dude, WE know he's done"
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>
>nah, he's done

it's that joe pa doesnt believe he's done

he's a senile 85 year old man thats getting ready for kickoff this saturday

they're gonna have to physically barricade him from entering that stadium...a stadium that joe pa probably thinks he owns

  

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368. "dude's reading comprehension..."
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i still blame hip-hop.

  

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372. "contrarian MFers"
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right, and I'm saying even if his stubborn, senile, etc...ass manages to stay the coach for the rest of this season, which is what another 4-5 games

there is no way that a new AD and President keep him on after this

so in the end, he's done, whether he goes now, or a month from now


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377. "fuck Penn State, get fucked in State Pen..."
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I hope Sandusky don't off himself before he gets to Graterford

  

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382. "Everyone knows he's done, that is why he needs to go now"
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not after the season, not after this Saturdays game. He should no longer be the coach at PSU after TODAY.

The longer Joe stays at the PSU the longer this remains a three ring circus around the football team and program.

If Joe wants to prove that he does really still care for his players and the program he should resign today because any press conference that he holds between now and the end of the season while he is the HC is going to involve questions about these crimes and the cover up.

  

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386. "compared to the media circus"
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that would continue if he was fired yesterday

so you fire JoePa, and then what...

have some interim coach, who would have to be a hire from within, would also have been employed during this scandal, and let him deal with the shit storm

what he's going through now is part of the punishment for not handling this situation properly

firing him and letting him fade away is almost letting him off easy

make him face the allegations, explain how this could happen, etc...


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389. "that almost made sense to me for a second but nah, fire him immediately"
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he'll be in court regardless but at least take away the only outlet he has.

>firing him and letting him fade away is almost letting him off
>easy
>

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390. "This media circus is following Joe wherever he goes"
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he is a sports icon and legend. If he were to be fired today he would not be able to simply just fade away, the media would follow Joe.

The circus around the football team, specifically the players would die down some and not be as intense. Right now the football team is about his only refuge and is almost acting as a shield to protect him from the media.

Yes, you fire him and promote someone who has been with the team for a few years to finish out the season.

  

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401. "joe WANTS to talk...he can't because PSU has him on a gag order"
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or won't provide the venue. that's why they didn't reschedule today's press conference. right now it's a legal issue and PSU can't risk having his senile ass rep the university.

what's going to happen is PSU will can him him before this saturday and joe will go out and speak on his own. he's not gonna hide in his house. bet that. joe is concerned with his legacy first and foremost, not PSU dude is goin' out BLASTING and will take his enemies with him.


>Yes, you fire him and promote someone who has been with the
>team for a few years to finish out the season.

who the fuck do you promote? mqueary? nobody knows what members of the staff have been complicit in all of this. the whole staff has to be gutted.

  

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423. "wrongful termination"
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I'm just saying

PSU is already going to have a huge civil case on its hands

if in the investigation, they find that JoePa was not at fault, and did what he should have, to the letter of the law, he'd be setup for a wrongful termination suit, no?

if you read the grand jury indictment, the story that JoePa says was relayed to him was not the story that McQuery is now relaying to the media

this guy has been there since 66', and you're going to fire him based on what you think he knows, on an assumption of guilt

and like I said, who coaches the rest of the season?

the assistants have all been there for +10 years, you're not going to bring someone in from outside to deal with this

whoever you get is going to get barraged by the same questions

and then you will have JoePa doing separate interviews out of pocket

let him deal with this mess, don't dump it on someone else

JoePa can be the face of this, and protect the players that had nothing to do with the situation





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426. "Yeah Penn State is going to be paying out a lot of money"
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to a lot of families.

You bring up a good point about a potential wrongful termination suit against PSU. I wonder if JoePa would try to drag it out and go that route? Part of me doubts that because if PSU decides to fight back who knows what skeletons will be brought to light in that case. I wonder what will happen with this coaching staff? Will they ever be able to get another job at another school? Could the rest of the staff bring suit against PSU?

  

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547. "this would be about the weakest case that could come out of this."
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and paterno couldn't reasonably assert damages in excess of the term of his contract, which in the scheme of these settlements will be nothing.

i still blame hip-hop.

  

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425. "Exactly, hence my comment about football acting as protection"
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Right now being employed by PSU is about the only thing that is saving both Joe Paterno and PSU from.............Joe Paterno.

>what's going to happen is PSU will can him him before this
>saturday and joe will go out and speak on his own. he's not
>gonna hide in his house. bet that. joe is concerned with his
>legacy first and foremost, not PSU dude is goin' out BLASTING
>and will take his enemies with him.

Really PSU is kind of in a catch 22 because as long as Joe is employed they can protect both the university and Joe talking to the media, however, PSU is also taking a black eye right from the public by keeping Joe Paterno employed.

>>Yes, you fire him and promote someone who has been with the
>>team for a few years to finish out the season.

I agree you have to gut the staff at the end of the season. However, they have to get rid of Joe first and probably McQuery second. After that just pick the youngest coach on the staff who was hired post 2002 shower incident to coach the team.

  

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363. "wow... this is incredible..."
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364. "would i be going overboard if i said that this is OJ level big?"
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granted its happy valley and not brentwood but i cant remember the last time i was this transfixed to an off the field sports story.

i cant remember the last time ive seen such a horrific/epic meltdown of a sports figure that everyone held in such high regard.

  

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369. "Yes, you would be going overboard."
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>granted its happy valley and not brentwood but i cant
>remember the last time i was this transfixed to an off the
>field sports story.
>
>i cant remember the last time ive seen such a horrific/epic
>meltdown of a sports figure that everyone held in such high
>regard.

At some point in the future people will let this go. White people ARE STILL mad at OJ. Joe Paterno is an old man who didn't know what exactly was going on. Joe Pa's legacy will remain in tact. PSU alums will defend the program and prop it up.

PSU is not forever tarnished over this like OJ is over his incident.

Then again you are entitled to your own opinion and I respect that due to not wanting to debate your opinion or facts.

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371. "RE: Yes, you would be going overboard."
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>
>At some point in the future people will let this go. White
>people ARE STILL mad at OJ. Joe Paterno is an old man who
>didn't know what exactly was going on.

this is about farrrrrrr more than just joe pa. there are also going to be a lot of victims when all said and done...and probably most of them wont ever be reported

>PSU is not forever tarnished

mmmm...i dunno


>Then again you are entitled to your own opinion and I respect
>that due to not wanting to debate your opinion or facts.

thanks! really not a big deal either way though...

  

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374. "RE: Yes, you would be going overboard."
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>Joe Paterno is an old man who
>didn't know what exactly was going on. Joe Pa's legacy will
>remain in tact. PSU alums will defend the program and prop it
>up.
Don't agree. This is totally going to taint JoePa's legacy. Because above all else he was viewed as doing things the "right way" for so long. That is gone. Of course there will be some Nittany-zealots who will argue otherwise, but I know some PSU-diehards that are absolutely disgusted and will never view that program and that man as they did.


>PSU is not forever tarnished over this like OJ is over his
>incident.
I wouldn't be so quick to say this. I could potentially see this being an almost SMU-esque death-sentence for that program. Only time will tell, but if you think this is not going to have a hgue immediate negative impact I feel that is naive.

>White people ARE STILL mad at OJ.
I know this is a funny thing for lame comedians to say, but seriously we really don't give a fuck anymore.

  

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370. "to me it's bigger."
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a prolonged cover up of child rape is far more reprehnsible than an isolated double murder.

but that's just me.

i still blame hip-hop.

  

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376. "RE: to me it's bigger."
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I would agree. I was mad at the OJ verdict... but this whole fiasco hurts my soul.

  

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379. "it should be MUCH bigger than OJ"
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a PUBLIC university's football program and high level administration covered up a known and documented sexual abuser of children and let him have access to the campus for over a decade after the initial complaints.

Oh, the sexual abuser also had a youth program...that the school let have access to their campus.


Oj was a washed up athlete accused of killing two white folks.

Man, this shit should be huge.

  

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509. "except it wasnt isolated, oj went rambo on hoes on the regular"
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i always say, i dont care about his guilt or innocence in that case (it was a mad making extravaganza, cant knock it) but he was a scumfuck years before he may or may not have killed anyone.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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378. "I believe it is bigger than OJ "
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you could argue OJ was a crime of passion that resulted in the loss of two lives. OJs crime only hurt two families, the PSU thing will hurt multiple families and haunt both the victims and their families for years.

So far with PSU you have an active cover up by multiple people over a long period of time. If this crime had been reported and properly investigated it could have saved at least 6 (that we know of) victims. While the crime isn't murder, this is as close to murder as you can get without physically killing someone. Sandusky probably fucked a lot of these kids up for life and perhpas turned a few of these kids into child rapist, thus his crime is perpetuated and passed on to another generation.

  

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381. "in pop culture no, but in sports circles.yes."
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Especially if the murder is somehow connected.

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397. "the racial component to O.J. was much bigger"
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it sparked a nationwide divide that this case doesn't compare to. you brought up the O.J. trail at work back then, and there could be a fist fight. you bring up Sandusky, and everybody will nod that he and Penn State are fucked up -- then go back to eating lunch.

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403. "good point"
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409. "yea they paused class for us to watch the verdict then class dismissed"
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and white muthafuckers were shouting nigger in the hallways
this shit won't even make it to court tv
no comparison really

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427. "I am sure Nancy Grace will be all over this"
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as well as Court TV. ESPN might actually follow this as well.

  

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375. "This is the saddest damn sports story in a long time"
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Just sickening

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380. "Seriously. "
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"You post like you look your barber in the eyes when he lines you up."

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384. "easily....."
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385. "fuck corrupt ass NCAAs, they had it coming"
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this is what happens when we let corruption take hold like it has, the people in power will inevitably end up abusing it.

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388. "power corrupts."
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absolute power corrupts absolutely.

  

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391. "Sorry but this is such a lame ass copout"
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This isn't about the machine of college football or everyone's favorite whipping boy, the NCAA.

These were monstrous, inhumane acts that nobody would ever condone. Psu football wouldn have lost games as a result ofthis being handled in a non psychotic fashion. I don't want to hear excuses...it's about personal accountability.

  

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392. "Yup, dude has had an axe to grind with college sports though"
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>This isn't about the machine of college football or
>everyone's favorite whipping boy, the NCAA.
>
>These were monstrous, inhumane acts that nobody would ever
>condone. I don't want to hear excuses...it's about personal
>accountability.

I'm not surprised at the misdirected moral outrage.

This has nothing to do with the NCAA.

  

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393. "I agree with you "
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no one could see something like this coming, who protects a child rapist? Perhaps all this cover up takes place if PSU found out it was JoePa but to go through all this trouble for a DC? The NCAA can't govern or stop a university from doing something stupid like this. The people at PSU who kept this a secret for so long lost all common sense.

  

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394. "I agree, this really has little to do with football and more to do with...."
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and incredibly sick bastard who used his influence as a prominent coach at a storied program to find his victims and the corrupt administration that tried looked the other way and tried to sweep it under the rug to protect the reputation of the university.

I think the entire administration including the president should go as well as Paterno and his entire staff. But I hear people saying crazy stuff like shut the entire football program down, I think that's a bit harsh.

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402. "yeah, i don't want to see that"
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> But I hear
>people saying crazy stuff like shut the entire football
>program down, I think that's a bit harsh.

I'm really not sure what the appropriate action is but I'll take no joy in seeing the football program detonated. ill take no joy in seeing the players and the fans suffer. and yes, i know, the victims are farrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr more deserving of my sympathies but i don't think it's callous to spread a little bit around to other parties as well.

i guess you just take it step by step and the first order of business is to kick paterno, mqueary and the school Pres the fuck out of town. they need to be under criminal investigation.

mqueary was supposedly at practice today coaching and that's pretty mind blowing. the more time goes on, the more i have a major fucking problem with his role in this.

  

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420. "yeah, like I said below in post #398, that program is going to suffer..."
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for a while anyway

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399. "it was an anomoly, but it was borne out of a culture of corruption"
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I don't care if it's the Greek government. I don't care if it's the Italian mafia. I don't care if it's the good ol' boy network that just loves sports perhaps a bit too much.

corruption is corruption and the NCAAs are RAMPANT with it. there's not a rational person alive that would tell you anything different.

when you set up + tolerate a system so corrupt, you're begging for someone to take advantage of it. yes, it's solely the responsibility of the actors involved in this heinous case to address the wrongs done against those children, but I don't think it's "unpredictable" given how frequently and how enthusiastically we turn a blind eye to any number of other ethical and systematic violations we see throughout NCAA football.

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411. "it's all driven by MONEY. When the assistant met with the AD they"
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brought the head of the university financial department to the meeting
after discussion they decided to not pursue anything (idiotic from a risk management perspective)
this entire thing reeks of PSU protecting their financial interests

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387. "Where the hell was Chris Hansen when you needed him?"
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Seriously, though. I'll even accept the fact that Sandusky CLEARLY has a problem. I don't know if its sheer hubris on his part or if he really can't help himself. From some of what I've read, sounds like a lot of the latter and he was emboldened by his position and standing.

REGARDLESS, that motherfucker needed to be helped LONG AGO to an 8 x 8 and served a daily helping of getting Tobias Beechered EVERY DAY and TWICE on the weekends.

  

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395. "Honestly, that's a good question...we can catch regular people that"
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are soliciting for this stuff through websites/chatrooms like they did on To Catch a Predator, but there really is no way for us to find out about cases like this where someone is using a position of power over children to find and prey on victims unless one of the victims speaks up.

In this case, if it wasn't for the one kid who spoke up in 2009 we never would have known about any of this. It's sickening.

  

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418. "overwhelming majority of incidents go unpunished but here ..."
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i totally agree with your read on the situation and there were at least two distinct opportunities where he should have been slammed for something people KNEW about and saw. there were probably more.

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396. "Where does PSU go from here? like tomorrow?"
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I'm trying to figure out what their next move is, and for the life of me I can't. I'm not talking about 'how do they save themselves', because i don't care about that. I just wonder, what is the right thing for them to do at this point, other come completely clean (which won't happen for legal reasons).

Do they just play out the season? If Joe steps down, it's gonna be an internal hire, and considering the whole administration of pretty tainted, that's not much of a solution.

Really it feels like borderline shut-it-down/cancel the season time. No matter how unfair that is to the kids on the squad. It won't happen, but either way the players are f-ed.

This is truly the foulest of foul situations. I can only imagine how i'd feel if this happened at my alma mater.



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398. "Yeah, that program is pretty much fucked for a while either way..."
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can you imagine being a PSU recruiter trying to go into someone's home and convince them to entrust you with their son's welfare?

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450. "I can't imagine being a coach and trying to get players to pretend"
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everything is normal for Saturday. I mean, it's not even about football at this point, really. They got much bigger things they need to worry about.

If i was a kid on that team looking at coaches who knowingly let kids get molested i wouldn't want to go out and represent that in any way shape or form.




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400. "Sandusky needs to be thrown in gen pop..so he can see how it feels"
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430. "yeah i guess pedophilia is pretty much a death sentence in the pen."
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and rightfully so.

he's gonna get shanked if they don't put him in solitary.

  

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404. "Sandusky has six adopted kids and numerous foster children"
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over the years?

*smh*

this just gets worse by the hour

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405. "according to documents, sandusky's wife contacted one of the victims"
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before the grand jury trial

  

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406. "it just doesn't end..."
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unreal.

and to think this is all just the tip of the iceberg.

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410. "I hope Joe Paterno is forever remembered as the man"
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who harbored a CHILD RAPIST.

There are few worse ways to go out than that.

Fuck you JoePa.

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415. "why do small-minded scapegoating like that?"
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there's a WHOLE ATHLETIC DEPARTMENT responsible for harboring this creep. Joe Pa is one of many who made short-sighted, self-serving decisions.

it's like the people who got caught up blaming Bernie Madoff for all the money Wall Street stole. putting that one dude away doesn't solve the problem, and there are PLENTY of guilty people who get to skate by while people dogpile on their chosen sacrifice.

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428. "But JoePa basically runs the PSU athletic department"
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especially when it comes to the football side of that department.

  

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431. "*shrug* well then get your scapegoating on, player"
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I'm not satisfied saying one man has to carry the cross for this shit, though.

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493. "I was certainly not arguing JoePa should take the blame"
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every PSU official should.

My comment was coming from the fact that JoePa was the only one who had a legacy, who was famous, who was going to be remembered in history as an all time great coach and I sincerely hope that legacy and memory are completely suffocated by the facts of what he allowed to happen

That was my point.

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414. "PSU Board of Trustees To Meet TONITE? (swipe)"
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http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/breaking-news/index.ssf/2011/11/penn_state_trustees_to_mee_tonight.html

The Penn State Board of Trustees is having a special meeting tonight, a source close to a trustee said. The meeting is to be conducted by phone, the source said.

The board is scheduled to meet Thursday and Friday, as well.

Tonight's meeting comes amid the scandal sparked Saturday by child molestation charges filed against Jerry Sandusky and accusations that high-ranking university officials failed to report
the former assistant football coach's alleged crimes.

It also comes as The New York Times is reporting that Joe Paterno, Penn State's legendary head football coach, may step down.

Gov. Tom Corbett plans to attend Friday's meeting -- as an ex-officio member of the board -- and could break his public silence about the investigation, Corbett's press secretary told The Associated Press. Corbett initiated and oversaw the investigation as attorney general before he became governor in January, Kevin Harley said.

Sandusky, the defensive coordinator who helped Penn State earn the nickname Linebacker U, is charged with 40 counts of crimes related to the sexual abuse of eight boys during 15 years, beginning in 1994. He retired from Penn State in 1999 to devote more time to The Second Mile, the charity he founded to help at-risk children. Authorities say Sandusky met all of his victims through The Second Mile.

The abuse charges against Sandusky include counts stemming from an alleged incident on campus that was witnessed by a football program graduate assistant, who reported it to Paterno.

Paterno relayed the information to Athletic Director Tim Curley and Gary Schultz, whose role as senior vice president for finance and business includes oversight of the college's police department. Curley and Schultz are charged with failing to report the sexual assault and then lying about it to a grand jury investigating Sandusky.

Curley has taken a leave of absence to fight the charges and Schultz, who was working on an interim basis as the university searched for his replacement, retired.

Paterno is not charged with a criminal offense in the matter and the Pennsylvania Attorney General's Office has said no charges are pending.

The head coach's weekly news conference, previously scheduled for 12:30 this afternoon, was canceled by university President Graham Spanier, whose leadership at school is also in jeopardy.

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421. "The Governor was on the board of trustees"
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wait, WHAAATT??

are they saying that he initiated the investigation that lead to these charges? and/or that he was attorney general when the initial charges were filed 10 years ago?

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422. "He was AG before Gov. His office started the current investigation."
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439. "Hey, if they can pin something on Corbett I'd be happy"
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486. "He's an ex officio member, which means"
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It's a state university, so as the governor, he's automatically on the board while he's in office.

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416. "Victims Double In Penn State Case (swipe)"
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http://www.myfoxphilly.com/dpp/sports/local_sports/exclusive%3A-victims-double-in-penn-state-case-110811

Exclusive: Victims Double In Penn State Case
Updated: Tuesday, 08 Nov 2011, 6:50 PM EST
Published : Tuesday, 08 Nov 2011, 5:17 PM EST

UNIVERSITY PARK, Pa. - Fox 29 has learned the number of child-abuse in the Penn State sex-abuse scandal involving ex-coach Jerry Sandusky has more than doubled in the past day, and is closer to 20 victims.

There were eight victims named in the grand jury presentment and 40 charges leveled against Sandusky, a long-time assistant to Penn State head football coach Joe Paterno. Paterno was not named in the grand jury finding as violating any laws.

Sources tell Fox 29 since a press conference on Monday, the number of potential victims has more than doubled in the case.

Sandusky was arrested in the case and made bail, while two Penn State administrators face charges related to how an alleged crime was reported in the case to police and investigators.

On Monday, state officials publicized two phone numbers for past victims to call, and within a day, it seems investigators have new leads.

Also on Monday, Pennsylvania state attorney general Linda Kelly said the Sandusky case was consideried an on-going investigation and more charges could be coming.

Sandusky is charged with sexually abusing at least eight young boys he met through The Second Mile, a charity he founded in the late 1970s.

A preliminary hearing set for Wednesday was postponed until December 7th.

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419. "not surprising. i'm guessing the final reported number is way higher"
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so gross.

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424. "like I've been saying, this is probably not something he just started..."
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doing 10-15 years ago in his 50's, he started his " charity" back in 1977, potentially some of his victims could be in their 40's now, I'd imagine a lot of them have buried those horrors deep in the back their mind and aren't really anxious to dig it all back up.

I remember on one of Oprah's last shows she had 200 adult men that had been sexually abused as children. Unfortunately things like this are more common than we think.

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429. "I'm going to say one thing in defense of paterno"
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i want to preface it by saying, no, it does not absolve him of any guilt. he is guilty of being complicit in the sexual abuse of any kid sandusky touched between 2002 and now. he should be fired immediately, and his reputation is forever tarnished, if not outright destroyed. all of that is true.

but...

there are a lot of us, myself included, who can't believe that he wouldn't turn sandusky in. that, to me, is not credible. here's the question you need to ask yourself: if you found out your dad was molesting kids, would you turn him in? what about your brother?

that's how close sandusky and paterno were. he served on joe's staff for 30 years. for reference, joe knew sandusky for longer than most of the people on this board have been alive. he was paterno's right hand man for 22 years, 3 undefeated national championship seasons*, countless victories and bowl wins. joe owed a ton of his professional success to him.

but that's not all. one of the reasons this whole twisted awful things happen is because the penn state football family really was that tight. that's not just me talking. every major assistant of note save galen hall came up through the program. the AD used to play for joe AND sandusky. at least half the people on the board of trustees are there because they played for joe or because joe vouched for them. joe was the great big father figure, which made sandusky the uncle. if joe was king, jerry was the duke of earl. jerry was the trusted adviser, jerry was probably the one joe talked with and confided in the most. when joe and sue wanted to have dinner with one of the coaches and their wives, it was probably the sanduskys they called. joe paterno wanted to build a penn state family, and jerry sandusky was like the second most important part of that family, besides sue paterno.

again, NONE OF THIS EXCUSES JOE. Joe was wrong. Horribly wrong. Lives were very literally ruined, and he deserves all the scorn being heaped upon him right now.

but ask yourself this: no matter how horrible the crime, would you snitch on your best friend? how about your brother?

the board of trustees never should have allowed one man to so thoroughly dominate a university the way joe dominated penn state. because no matter how well intentioned, it created a situation where one family member had to snitch on another. that's a recipe for disaster

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432. "Everything you just typed is exactly WHY I have a hard time believing..."
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Paterno didn't have any knowledge of Sandusky's activities prior to the 2002 incident.

And as for your question, for a crime like this? Hell yes I would turn my brother in. I might help him cover up a murder if he had good reason, but molesting kids? After kicking the shit out of him I would drag his bloodied ass to the nearest police station myself.

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436. "i agree. i think he knew since 1998 and that's why sandusky retired"
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and, yeah, i think i'd turn my mom in if she did some shit like this.

but, man, until you've been there, i think there's only so far you can go before you judge the guy to spawn of satan. yeah, we all know that he's wrong. we can judge him, i agree. but, man, until you've been there, just be a little careful about how vehement we get about it.

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441. "so what's the appropriate response?"
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>but, man, until you've been there, i think there's only so far
>you can go before you judge the guy to spawn of satan.

if Paterno let this go on as it appeared he did, repressing hyperbole about his lack of character is the last fucking thing anybody should be worried about. "walk a mile in his shoes first"? how about Paterno imagine he was one of the children he let get molested instead?

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445. "i don't know. maybe the appropriate response is what we're all doing"
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maybe this does outweigh and obliterate everything else about his legacy.

but among the many things i am thankful for right now is that i have not ever had to make a decision like this. anyone who thinks it would be easy to turn in a guy you have that close ties with, no matter how awful the crime, is deluding themselves.

again, so to be clear: i am not exonerating paterno. i believe he deserves everything he's getting now.

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443. "I could maybe see your point of view if this was an isolated incident.."
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and it was something he only did one time but apparently there was knowledge that this was an ongoing thing and dude was still parading around PSU campuses with kids and you just look the other way?? C'mon!

Like I said I might help my brother cover up ONE murder if he had a good reason but if he was a serial killer out killing multiple random people I'm turning in his ass in a heartbeat.

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461. "I'm the opposite of a moralist in almost any context EXCEPT RAPING KIDS"
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I will judge the fuck out of not just somebody directly involved in that activity (for that person is of such a twisted mindset & mentally ill that they almost don't feel like actual humans let alone capable of understanding) but of a man who positioned himself for decades as a man of substance & high moral fiber yet punked out so horribly in the face of such a heinous crime for no justifiable reason.

That's what embues me with the judging spirit in this instance to bang a gavel all day shouting FUCK JOE PATERNO from now until whenever I stop wanting to spit at the sound of his name.

For this alone he's not fit to shine Barry Switzer's shoes & I have no problem saying that despite that being a laughable notion just 72 hours ago.

He's going to be on his death bed one day (likely very, very soon) & reflecting on how badly he blew it (and not just in his senile/decrepit end, we both know he was still in full charge of his faculties when he found out about this even if you wanna suspend disbelief & say somewhere between '98 and '02).

Hopefully when that moment comes for him it will be less a personal requiem for his own now permanently sullied image/legacy but more a lament for the irreparily damaged lives of lost kids turned adults Sandusky left in his wake that Joe Paterno directly or indirectly sponsored being sodomized & spit on.

However it seems to me that if Joe really actually did think in terms of the latter rather than the former, we wouldn't be in this thread right now.

That's why it can't really be argued that he has perpetuated a fraud on the public & especially on the people who worked with/for him, loved him & trusted him.

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477. "I see where you're coming from"
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I have sometimes questioned whether id be able to turn my son in for a crime. Granted in my imagination, the crime has never been sexually abusing kids--but its not as easy as some people make it seem posting about it on a message board.

Families and loved ones are often one of the main reasons people like Chris Herren can get away with things like drug abuse for years.

Its not easy to step in and show a love one tough love, turn them around, or get them help.

Sometimes you try, they say things are getting better, but things really aren't.

Truth says he may not turn in his brother for murder but would definitely do it for molesting kids?
ut no

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514. "There are excuses for some things..."
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there are no excuses for molesting kids in my mind.

>Truth says he may not turn in his brother for murder but would
>definitely do it for molesting kids?
>ut no

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638. "the saddest part about molestation to me"
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and this is all anecdotal cause I dont know anyone who's come out as a molestation victim...but it seems like molesters are often victimes themselves and this has started some sick cycle that gets passed from generation to the next.

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433. "but this wasn't only up to Paterno"
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whats mqueary's excuse?

the school pres and AD?

and if you don't want to snitch...ok, i get it. but don't be an enabler. and that's exactly what joe was.

he could've spared sandusky the slammer but shipped that fucker off to china. he could have put an end to his 'charity'. instead paterno and co. gave him the keys to the castle and let him use the penn state brand to continue his barbaric activity. joe pa let him use his practice fields for god's sake.

it's sickening and makes no sense. and why I'll continue to believe that it was as much about Sandusky not snitching on paterno and PSU then it was the other way around.

and you'd damn well snitch on your father or brother if you had kids of your own who were at risk of being on the receiving end of that abuse.

  

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438. "i agree, but paterno ruled the school"
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i'm not kidding. everyone who has any position of real power on that campus owes it to joe paterno. no one did anything without telling him or running it by him. if anyone was going to talk, it was him, because he was the dad/don.

so maybe that makes him most culpable of all.

whatever individual fault we can assign, there's a lesson to be learned here about the importance of outside voices. penn state became too insular and familial, where everyone cared too much about one another and lost perspective, and so when some shit went down they didn't know what to do.

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434. "Shells"
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I'm sure this is terrible for you. To have some shit like this happen, on low a level, to an institution you care about hurts.

that said.

I'm a father of a 9 year old. I've witnessed him suffer harm at the hands of a family member, with a big red sign that read ABUSE

and no less than 3 institutions pretty much acted like it didn't happen.

I ain't been right since.

You don't fuck with kids.

Brother, friend, father, nephew.

We gon cry. We gon pray, we might even fight.

And then I'm making that call.

You don't fuck with kids. Period.

  

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440. "agreed."
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he fucked up. not trying to say that he didn't.

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446. "the fact that it kept going on erases any of that sentiment though"
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if this happened once or it happened up to a certain point and he got help/improved, that's a perfectly valid argument.

but that's definitely a factor, combined with the fact that he was no longer actually on the staff and that the whole thing was a landmine for the program and the university. plus who knows who was keeping him quiet? he runs the show to a degree, but he is not god there, someone writes his checks (and unlike most big time coaches, there is someone who probably outearns him).

that's my main reason for playing wait-and-see as far as paterno goes. the guy is already paying with his career and, let's face it, probably his life. how long does he last outside of football? before we call him a disgrace, let's see how this played out internally if at all possible.

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447. "the fact that it kept going on erases any of that sentiment though"
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if this happened once or it happened up to a certain point and he got help/improved, that's a perfectly valid argument.

but that's definitely a factor, combined with the fact that he was no longer actually on the staff and that the whole thing was a landmine for the program and the university. plus who knows who was keeping him quiet? he runs the show to a degree, but he is not god there, someone writes his checks (and unlike most big time coaches, there is someone who probably outearns him).

that's my main reason for playing wait-and-see as far as paterno goes. the guy is already paying with his career and, let's face it, probably his life. how long does he last outside of football? before we call him a disgrace, let's see how this played out internally if at all possible.

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496. "not that this is necessary, but...."
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>i want to preface it by saying, no, it does not absolve him
>of any guilt. he is guilty of being complicit in the sexual
>abuse of any kid sandusky touched between 2002 and now. he
>should be fired immediately, and his reputation is forever
>tarnished, if not outright destroyed. all of that is true.
>
>but...
>
>there are a lot of us, myself included, who can't believe that
>he wouldn't turn sandusky in. that, to me, is not credible.
>here's the question you need to ask yourself: if you found out
>your dad was molesting kids, would you turn him in? what
>about your brother?
>
do you have children?

I have two sons, 4 and almost 1. When the first one wasn't even three months, I recall my wife telling me how the sitter who I wasn't fond of him being at had a social worker visit and that dumb cunt said he was disruptive and lacked independence because he didn't mimic the behavior of a 9 month old and 12 month old who were in her care (come to find out later the bitch was a seamstress and wanted them all to sleep at the same time). i went fucking ballistic, if i had picked him up that day he'd have been done. i have been strict with his discipline, keeping him accountable, and let him experience things without trying to shelter him too much. i am a lawyer, and have always walked within the confines of the law my entire life. i am not a violent person, although i know stuff, i haven't ever had to really do anything.

however, there is a primal, violent protective instinct i have with him and his younger brother. it is not rational, it is not "big picture" it is simply you fuck with my babies you will DIE. i don't say that to sound hard or to judge the inactions of others. i know myself well and inside of me, if something like this were to ever go down, jerry sandusky would be in pieces right now and i mean that without the slightest bit of hyperbole.


a very long way of saying yes i'd snitch tattle sing whatever the fuck if someone i knew was doing that shit, after as ThaTruth said I mollywhopped the shit out of them.

  

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504. "this was not his actual *brother*, though"
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developing such an intense friendship that it makes you abet a fucking child rapist is creepy beyond measures.

  

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609. "if it was MY brother, friend, son, I'd call the cops and tell 'em hurry"
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cuz I'm gonna beat the shit outta this kid fucker here until they get there.

No fuckin excuse, abusing kids like that is the lowest of the fucking lows. Fuck 'em all.

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435. "I'm not surprised that, if JoePa knew(and I believe he did)"
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he didn't say anything. Think about this from a generational standpoint. He is 82 years old. He comes from a time that would handle a situation, no matter how vile with this type of silence and cover-up. You're talking about a generation that cover-up incest-related pregnancies, rape, murder, and any other abuse you could think of and not necessarily from the standpoint that NOTHING was said or done.

I'm sure that many people spoke to Sandusky and told him to cut that shit out, not understanding that sickness of the bullshit, all because they didn't want him to be physically hurt behind this. They probably just crossed their fingers hoping the shit would just stop.

We are looking at it from the eyes of the Information Age. Ain't shit a secret if someone has anything to do with it. We RUNTELLDAT about everything. As much as people talk about snitching and other shit...we don't know shit about real cover-up. There is probably somebody in this post right now whose mother's mother was raped and impregnated by her father that produced your mother. This all coming from generations that would go to the grave with that shit. Horrible cover-ups like this is as American as apple pie.

People are talking way to simple about this mess.

With all that being said, I do think JoePa should go ahead and step down.

  

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444. "Paterno speaks...and the bar of insanity is raised another notch"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JXoXdIJQ7I&feature=youtu.be

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448. "...but ANYWAY"
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"WE ARE, PENN STATE!"

no wonder the school didn't want him talking to the media today.

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449. "or ever"
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>no wonder the school didn't want him talking to the media
>today.

its pretty obvious that joe isnt gonna bow out gracefully which means the show is just beginning.

it's actually quite amazing that today has come and gone and he's still employed by the university.

  

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452. "board of trustees is meeting right now. he won't survive the week"
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454. "yeah, no way he's on the sidelines this sat"
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mcqueary better not be there either

fans will pity the 85 year old man...but i dont think anyone will be above throwing a rock at mcqueary's head

  

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456. "i'm going to indulge in one fan comment here"
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joe better take jay with him.

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451. "Bless his old ass heart. SMH"
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<--- Mmmmmmmmmuah...

  

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453. "sick"
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455. "wtf"
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459. "don't know what kind of reaction ppl were expecting......"
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460. "perhaps something a bit more subdued/somber/respectful?"
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instead of a round of seven nation army?

  

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462. "Pretty much. "
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What the fuck was that?!??

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466. "PSU's lunatic fringe celebrating child ass rape?"
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468. "in fairness I could almost surely see some Ohio Steak fans doin the same"
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if we were able to somehow draw a parallel situation.

Of course thankfully I can't prove that by any real measure since this PSU shit is the worst scandal in collegiate athletic history but I'd be willing to say the Beef-Bullion-Brained 'Win It For Tress' Branch of Gravy-Gullets over in Columbus could probably muster up a similar effort with a segment of their base as well.

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474. "every fan base has their lunatic fringe"
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id like to think that ours isn't quite as insane as what was shown in that video but who knows. these are uncharted waters here, as you point out.

i do know that there is shit that goes on at beaver stadium that would never fly at the 'shoe but that's a topic for another day...

  

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479. "And USC fans, and Texas Fans, and Alabama fans and..."
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basically every major university has acontingent of die hard screaming idiots...what exactly are you trying to prove aside from the raging hard on you have for Ohio State?


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525. "im actually quite confident he'd have 0 supporters in the same situation"
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>but I'd be willing to say the
>Beef-Bullion-Brained 'Win It For Tress' Branch of
>Gravy-Gullets over in Columbus could probably muster up a
>similar effort with a segment of their base as well.

not to mention tressel (or any other coach for that matter) wouldnt be crazy enough to entertain a pep rally on his lawn under equal circumstances. any coach other than paterno would have been fired within seconds of this shit making waves. any other coach would have went into exile over the shame and embarrassment of allowing what had occurred. paterno is out there accepting applause.

paterno and psu is a whole 'nother animal altogether...which is how this shit came about in the first place. i believe shelly when he says the culture is just a bit different over there.

  

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467. "the media is lynching joepa right now. not surprised by PSU fan reaction"
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at all
i spent the weekend with 7 PSU grads and nary a bad word was directed toward dude
if something damning comes out then obviously support will disappear
but right today? he gets the benefit of the doubt

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472. "Like covering up child rape?"
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>if something damning comes out then obviously support will
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476. "the video suggests you need evidence than what ya got"
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480. "from the guy that went batshit over tressel covering up tattoos"
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>if something damning comes out then obviously support will
>disappear
>but right today? he gets the benefit of the doubt

and propagated hella innuendo and assorted bullshit regarding him and pryor

and now you want to be the 'voice of reason' and preach moderation when dealing with some pretty factual and damning evidence concerning CHILD RAPE

it'd be funny if it just weren't so fucking sad

  

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487. "not sure if u responded to the wrong person or what. i barely went"
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in those threads
and when i did it was only to clown terrell pryors NFL prospects
the idea of there being "integrity" in college football is a joke so the tressell shit wasn't surprising at all really
it's not like clarett didn't try to warn us

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492. "that was appalling"
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kids were raped. and this is what happens.

  

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499. "WOW. That was the most incoherent, insensitive bunch of drivel"
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I've ever heard.

And I know die hard fans don't want to look at JoePa in that negative light, but that shit was mad distasteful and sad.

He really came off like he didn't give a fuck.

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457. "This is like a horrible nightmare you can't wake up from. As a PSU"
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die hard fan since birth this is like really, really hard to digest and the way it's all unravelling is just surreal. It pains me to see the foundation collapse, but it's certainly passed due. Even my own father who worshipped Joe Pa (both my parents are alum from the mid 70s) as if he was a God, is completely disgusted with Joe and those responsible for this current mess. All my PSU alum friends are fed up with Joe and and PSU admins as well.

I can't even put in words how stunned, depressed, and enraged I am...I just think back to all the fond memories I have associated with Joe Pa and PSU. And in a flash, all those memories have been tarnished forever. Its a really sinking feeling.

I know a few kids on the team. One of which is making his last ever start at Beaver Stadium on Saturday. His senior day is basically fucked. And for what??

I do feel genuine sorrow for the true victims in all of this mess and just hope for them justice can be served - at least in the court of law (bc I obviously nothing can undo the damage done already).



  

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458. "i hope they give these kids another senior day next year"
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like, bring them back for the first game next year at university expense. they deserve it.

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463. "I hope they give the *actual* kids their childhood/anal virginities back"
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but since they can't do that either then I guess PSU will have to settle on paying their psychiatric bills & rent for the rest of their lives while I continue to give less than a fuck about whether Nathan Stupar's last Saturday at State College is spoiled by something a bit more odious than the beating Nebraska was gonna lay on them anyway.

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464. "don't be a dick"
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one, i mean, is it fun for you to get graphic talking about little kids? is that really necessary?

two, the players have nothing to do with any of this. yes, they are very low on the list of victims, but the institution can and should honor whatever obligations they can.

as for what penn state will do for the victims, i imagine the court system is going to force a 9 figure class action award out of PSU within the next 10 years. it, of course, makes up for nothing.

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482. "don't think of it as antagonizing u or any PSU fan, it ain't about that"
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>one, i mean, is it fun for you to get graphic talking about
>little kids? is that really necessary?
>
If you think the vulgar/visceral terminolgy I used there was gratuitious or unseemly, then let it be a reminder that it's sweet-natured-shorthand compared to the level of degredation involved in the actual acts that this PSU environment fostered which is why this part:

>two, the players have nothing to do with any of this. yes,
>they are very low on the list of victims, but the institution
>can and should honor whatever obligations they can.
>
likely registers at the 'Less Than Zero' point for anyone outside of the Nittany Lion fanbase.

I'm not even sure they should play another game this year, particularly if they don't kick that brokedown bastard out of the booth before Saturday.

But anyway, I can leave it be for a minute & I'm really not trying to go at anyone besides shitting on those responsibile.

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470. "RE: I hope they give the *actual* kids their childhood/anal virginities ..."
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^that high brow humor that I missed the mark on in the original post...


/sarcasm


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483. "I'll let you know when I'm tryin' to be funny n/m"
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>^that high brow humor that I missed the mark on in the
>original post...
>
>
>/sarcasm
>
>
>_______________________________
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484. "I laughed at the 'thanks for sharing' in the other thread"
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that was pretty legit if i may say so

  

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478. "Like Shells said, no need to be a dick. You know damn well we"
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both feel an immense amount of sadness for the victims and I think that goes without saying for anybody with a pulse on these boards.

  

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485. "I do kno that & I realize there's shrapnel but fuck Penn State right now"
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>both feel an immense amount of sadness for the victims and I
>think that goes without saying for anybody with a pulse on
>these boards.

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465. "Currently 1,000 Student outside of Old Main chanting Fire Spanier"
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just to stick up for the PSU students, who have fucked up a bit today but don't have their heads completely up their asses.

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469. "The Board of Trustees...formed a committee. I'm not kidding *swipe*"
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http://live.psu.edu/story/56285

The Board of Trustees of The Pennsylvania State University is outraged by the horrifying details contained in the Grand Jury Report. As parents, alumni and members of the Penn State Community, our hearts go out to all of those impacted by these terrible events, especially the tragedies involving children and their families. We cannot begin to express the combination of sorrow and anger that we feel about the allegations surrounding Jerry Sandusky. We hear those of you who feel betrayed and we want to assure all of you that the Board will take swift, decisive action.

At its regular meeting on Friday, November 11, 2011, the Board will appoint a Special Committee, members of which are currently being identified, to undertake a full and complete investigation of the circumstances that gave rise to the Grand Jury Report. This Special Committee will be commissioned to determine what failures occurred, who is responsible and what measures are necessary to insure that this never happens at our University again and that those responsible are held fully accountable. The Special Committee will have whatever resources are necessary to thoroughly fulfill its charge, including independent counsel and investigative teams, and there will be no restrictions placed on its scope or activities. Upon the completion of this investigation, a complete report will be presented at a future public session of the Board of Trustees.

Penn State has always strived for honesty, integrity and the highest moral standards in all of its programs. We will not tolerate any violation of these principles. We educate over 95,000 students every year and we take this responsibility very seriously. We are dedicated to protecting those who are placed in our care. We promise you that we are committed to restoring public trust in the University.

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471. "i'm so ashamed. i'm just so ashamed."
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473. "Even worse...they announced that they are PLANNING to form a committee"
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at their regular meeting in three days.

Wow...

  

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475. ""we fired spanier and paterno" <-only thing anyone wants to hear "
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why make a fucking statement if you're not going to say that.

strike that, the statement would actually be perfectly appropriate...without that ridiculous middle paragraph.

god, no one there has any clue. they don't get it.

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481. "paterno won't coach next yr. "
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the"investigation" will allow the transition to be more graceful

on 2nd thought this might really have to be swift just to get the scrutiny off them

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497. "There should be nothing "graceful" about his transition into"
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whatever it is he's going to.

They been should have fired everybody.

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489. "Fuck Penn State as a Staff/Team, Academic Institution & as a Fuckin Crew"
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and to anyone left buying the bullshit they're selling, fuck you too.

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490. "LET GO. IT'S OVER."
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why would anyone want to send their child to PSU?

In essence they cover for abusers and their enablers as the institutional level.

A committee? Why not a search party? Hunting dogs? How bout a P.I.?

Common fucking sense doesn't tell you what to do here?

You think a guy wants to send his 17 year old daughter there?
Or let his boys go to football camp there?

LET. IT. GO.

by the time this is done, they're going to wish the hate that came their way was partisan fandom.

this is going to be on a deep, personal level with so many.

  

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511. "A COMMITTEE!?!!?!?!?!? WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK!?!?!?"
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488. "Anybody in the 717 get a call from some major news outlets? I just"
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did...Well, it was about 2 hours ago. A voice recording asking a series of questions in regards to the PSU scandal. Asked if I knew about it, if I thought PSU officials were doing an adequate job of handling the situation (emphatic NO), if/how Joe should be fired/resign, if Spanier should resign or be fired, and a couple other q's I can't remember right now.

That was a bit weird...I feel like its the sign of times. SMH...

  

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507. "Wow really? "
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>did...Well, it was about 2 hours ago. A voice recording
>asking a series of questions in regards to the PSU scandal.
>Asked if I knew about it, if I thought PSU officials were
>doing an adequate job of handling the situation (emphatic NO),
>if/how Joe should be fired/resign, if Spanier should resign or
>be fired, and a couple other q's I can't remember right now.
>
>That was a bit weird...I feel like its the sign of times.
>SMH...

I haven't been home yet. Work till 3am, but will check my messages

  

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512. "Nope, I didn't get one."
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491. "RE: State Pen coach indicted on felony charges sex crimes against minors"
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I don't think Joe Pa or any of these guys get it.. The children being hurt etc..

Looking back at the baylor thing the GRADUATE ASSISTANT COACH Rouse that secretly recorded Bliss can't find a job now..
Rouse says he s being blackballed by entire coaching community..

For those who don't know Bliss asked everyone to say Dennehy was a drug dealer etc but the assistant coach Rouse (the only guy with any integrity) refused and BLiss threatened to fire him if he didn't go along with it so Rouse recorded everything in secret and exposed Bliss..
Am sure Bliss will be able to find a coaching job before this guy..

Now to this case there is no integrity in this..
JOE PA doesn't give a fuck neither does anyone else about these children if they had come forward before it would have only been to protect their jobs etc..

Secondly, DA s wanna spend millions of dollars prosecuting a dumb fuck for shooting himself and put him in jail..
they wanna spend tens of millions of dollars to put some guy who took "performance enhancers" and might have lied about it.. they wanna go to any length multiple trials to put him in jail..
Heck i ll go there they wanna put some dumb fuck for torturing dogs in jail, rightly so i might add in this third case..

But people who tortured children and those who covered it up..

I want these mother fuckers to spend tens of millions of dollars to find any little loophole to put JOE PA, Spanier and company into jail even if they don't succeed i want that asshole, especially after his most recent press conference to know in court and in front of the world that he did something wrong..
Cause one thing is clear from JOE PA and company's public statements THEY DO NOT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED.. IF anyone thinks otherwise they are delusional..

Lastly i would like to say this is especially after hearing Joe's public statement and that of Spanier etc..
i mean fuck.. am sure these people have public relations people to come up with fake statements of revulsion and disgust..
But the audacity of these mother fuckers they just do not give a fuck...

  

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494. "This is why I don't find fault with Mike"
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>Looking back at the baylor thing the GRADUATE ASSISTANT COACH Rouse that secretly >recorded Bliss can't find a job now..
>Rouse says he s being blackballed by entire coaching community..
>For those who don't know Bliss asked everyone to say Dennehy was a drug dealer etc but >the assistant coach Rouse (the only guy with any integrity) refused and BLiss threatened >to fire him if he didn't go along with it so Rouse recorded everything in secret and >exposed Bliss..
>Am sure Bliss will be able to find a coaching job before this guy..

Coaches don't snitch and JoePa is an icon. Mike knew if he told he'd get blackballed from coaching permanently.

This situation hits awfully close to home in terms of ethical decisions. I think that Mike should get another chance to coach somewhere. I'm not sure if I could snitch if it meant losing my career EVERYWHERE. That coaching frat has that next level fuck nigga database. They would justifiably body Mike anywhere he went because they're grimey.

If he tells in 2002 he permanently gets blackballed. At least now he has some level of immunity and might be able to coach one day.

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523. "fuck that...find a new career path"
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he was placed in the unfortunate position of having witnessed a child rape. terrible circumstances, no doubt. but he was also placed in the fortunate position of being able to put a stop to it. whether fair or not, it was put on him. he could have been a hero. not a coaching hero, but a fucking life hero.

he HAD to step up and do what was right at whatever the cost. if not at that very moment than the next day. or the day after. he was given 10 years worth of opportunities. every day he made the selfish decision to further his career at the expense of innocent children. and that's what all this shit comes down to. a bunch of sad mutherfuckers acting selfishly and looking out for their own careers by letting a predatory monster run loose for 2 decades.

i dont buy that snitching on sandusky wouldve ended his career. but now you can bet that mcqueary will need to find a new profession if he's fortunate enough to avoid the slammer.



>Coaches don't snitch and JoePa is an icon. Mike knew if he
>told he'd get blackballed from coaching permanently.
>
>This situation hits awfully close to home in terms of ethical
>decisions. I think that Mike should get another chance to
>coach somewhere. I'm not sure if I could snitch if it meant
>losing my career EVERYWHERE. That coaching frat has that next
>level fuck nigga database. They would justifiably body Mike
>anywhere he went because they're grimey.
>
>If he tells in 2002 he permanently gets blackballed. At least
>now he has some level of immunity and might be able to coach
>one day.

  

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551. "yea at the end of the day being the best WR coach/recruiter in football"
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who witnessed and accepted child rape at his workplace seems like a lower station in life to me than being the most average latte maker at starbucks who stopped a child predator.

but it is hard to impose your values in situations you've never seen, i suppose. just sayin.

i still blame hip-hop.

  

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495. "That, really, is still the most shocking thing"
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w/r/t to JoePa and the PSU officials right now.

>THEY DO NOT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED

Not only did they let this dude continue to rape kids for a decade or more, but even right today, they do not give a fuck about it.



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636. "well, to be accurate- they definitely care..."
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its just that they are attempting to manage this 'thing' properly so it doesn't affect football too much.

they aren't oblivious, remorseless, or even relishing the role of villain- nope, they are taking care of the issue that is more important: making sure this rape stuff doesn't stifle the money machine nor the guy who's name is worth so much money.

...eventually though, this'll devolve into a survivors/losers situation, and a PSU exec or commission will clean house with fury, because they are the survivors and that's the best thing to protect THEIR money, the future money.

this whole thing will stink forever

-or until there's money to be made in the next competitive PSU football program.

>w/r/t to JoePa and the PSU officials right now.
>
>>THEY DO NOT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED
>
>Not only did they let this dude continue to rape kids for a
>decade or more, but even right today, they do not give a fuck
>about it.
>
>
>
>

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501. "This shit is 100% true but you already know they won't go after these..."
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rich old white men the same way they went after those rich young black men.

>
>Secondly, DA s wanna spend millions of dollars prosecuting a
>dumb fuck for shooting himself and put him in jail..
>they wanna spend tens of millions of dollars to put some guy
>who took "performance enhancers" and might have lied about
>it.. they wanna go to any length multiple trials to put him in
>jail..
>Heck i ll go there they wanna put some dumb fuck for torturing
>dogs in jail, rightly so i might add in this third case..
>
>But people who tortured children and those who covered it
>up..
>
>I want these mother fuckers to spend tens of millions of
>dollars to find any little loophole to put JOE PA, Spanier and
>company into jail even if they don't succeed i want that
>asshole, especially after his most recent press conference to
>know in court and in front of the world that he did something
>wrong..
>Cause one thing is clear from JOE PA and company's public
>statements THEY DO NOT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED.. IF
>anyone thinks otherwise they are delusional..


I remember mf's talking about they wanna see Vick show "remorse", where the fuck is Joe's "remorse"? This mf is hosting pep rallies in his front yard.

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503. "it'd be a whole different kinda 'pep' & 'rally' on John Chaney's lawn"
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>I remember mf's talking about they wanna see Vick show
>"remorse", where the fuck is Joe's "remorse"? This mf is
>hosting pep rallies in his front yard.
>

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515. "^^^^^real talk"
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516. "^^^ word. they had ni&&as on tv trying to analyze his 'remorse'. "
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psychoanalyze THESE dudes.


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518. "Right, that shit pissed me off, they wanted so see Vick on TV broken..."
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down crying and throwing snot all over the place. I'm glad he never gave them that.

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498. "More than a thousand rioters surrounding the JoePa statue"
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screaming expletives and yelling "this is not penn state"

supposedly an ugly scene.


this whole shit is awful.


edit, no violence or damage as of now.

  

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500. "psu student tweeted it's not a riot, it's an idiot convention"
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and that's about right. no damage, no violence, just a bunch of drunk, confused morons who obviously need to read the details.

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502. "That's good "
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I mean in terms of the non rioting/lack of violence..

Obviously in addition to the victims, I feel terrible for all the (rational) students there. This is an awful thing to have to experience during your college years because of the cowardice and incompetence of what are supposed to be leaders in the community. Unfortunately it's only going to hang around like a bad cloud for some time.



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all stah
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505. "40 counts of felony."
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Damn

Plus the ensuing Lawsuits?

He is going to get life, and the University is going to get sued up the shitter.


Penn State will not be able to recover from this. impossible

Can the Big Ten sever their contract with Penn State, citing LOIC and FTM?

  

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536. "If Baylor didn't get it,PSU won't"
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They may as well though,cause they're gonna look like shit
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all stah
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506. "40 counts of felony."
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Damn

Plus the ensuing Lawsuits?

He is going to get life, and the University is going to get sued up the shitter.


Penn State will not be able to recover from this. impossible

Can the Big Ten sever their contract with Penn State, citing LOIC and FTM?

I know the NCAA can't penalize,because it is a non-football issue, but the Big Ten can,because a conference is like a company with the teams being shareholders, right?

  

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508. "For SPM & co. - remember 2007 when joe made the team clean the stadium?"
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That is why there is a backlash against him now. At every other time in his career, he chose the moral high ground, even when there was no legal obligation.

A few players got in an off campus fight in the offseason. There was no ncaa sanctions brewing, but joe said "you embarrassed this university and you embarrassed this program, so now the entire team is going to clean up the stadium trash after our home games this season."

He routinely did shit like that when a player did something to embarrass the university. He pulled kids out of class to chew them out for letting their grades slip. He did all this because he saw his job as not just being a football coach, but as a guardian for these young men while they were away from their families and support system.

But this instance, when it was most important, he chose not to do his usual "above and beyond the norm to protect the integrity of the university" routine, and instead just did the bare minimum by reporting it to the AD, and never following up about it. If anything, he took that same routine and decided that the integrity of the university and the program would be best protected by not reporting the fact that one of his assistants personally witnessed a child being raped in his locker room.

It goes against everything he ever stood for as a coach, and as a man, and as someone who was a support system for young men without one.

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623. "that puts things in a bit of perspective regarding JoePa"
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moral high ground until your friend reveals himself as a child molester. nice.

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510. "This shit has so many points of moral failure ...it is just insane"
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The Department of Public Welfare - failed! ( investigated him in 1998 ..he should have been registered as a sex offender at that time)

The mother of victim 6- failed!( approached Sandusky and told him to promise her that he would never touch boys again. WTF?!)

The janitors - failed!( concerned about their jobs)

The university police- failed!( should have went to other police agencies or the newspaper when the DA told him to close the investigation)

The district attorney - failed! ( fuck you close the investigation for?)

Joe P - FAiled ( did the right thing, but didn't continue to do the right thing)

Sandusky is a very sick man, and he should have gotten help for his sickness. He is a pedophile psychopath, and he even told the mother of
victim 6 that he had a problem....

The kids were failed by so called responsible people ....

The Graduate Assistant - failed( did the right thing, but didn't continue to do the right thing)


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513. "*The janitors - failed!( concerned about their jobs)* more to this story"
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supposedly the janitor went to his superior who then handed HIm a form to fill out.

supposedly Sandusky(who had addressed the Janitor on the way out..hand in hand with the boy) patrolled the parking lot driving back and forth till wee hrs of the morning...

supposedly the janitor, who now resides in a home from the aged suffering from dementia, was SO physically shaken he could barely speak...broke down into shivers and tears described that this was this was the WORST thing he'd seen IN HIS LIFE, including having served in the war and seen men get their guts blown out

  

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517. "Yeah, I thought this part was some sinister ass shit right here..."
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> supposedly Sandusky(who had addressed the Janitor on the way
>out..hand in hand with the boy) patrolled the parking lot
>driving back and forth till wee hrs of the morning...

It's like he was basically trying to intimidate dude on some "you better not say shit!"

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519. "RE: This shit has so many points of moral failure ...it is just insane"
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>Sandusky is a very sick man, and he should have gotten help
>for his sickness.

Yeah like a bullet to his fucking head.

  

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520. "True, I'm not sure how people like that can be "cured" or rehabilitated...."
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>>Sandusky is a very sick man, and he should have gotten help
>>for his sickness.
>
>Yeah like a bullet to his fucking head.

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552. "The janitor wasn't worried about his "job" he was worried about his fami..."
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If the janitor would have been the one to blow this entire thing up, Lord knows what type of backlash him and his family would have faced in State College. Death threats, black listed, and daily harassment - all for doing the right thing.

Look at how the students and fans are protecting Joe. Now think how they would have directed this towards the janitor's family.


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521. "Horrible story. Hope it becomes a cautionary one. "
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about the path a school may be headed down if it hands too much of it's identity and popularity over to a single sport or figure head.

  

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522. "Joe Pa puttin his foot in his mouth already..talkin bout"
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"i got 16 grandkids and we pray for them ery night, now i will start praying for those other kids"

somebody better gag this fool with a bandana and shove him in a closet

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524. "wait, he's praying for the kids he allowed to be raped?"
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Can I even safely assume he's praying for them to NOT be raped?

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526. "i bet joe pa wouldnt leave his grandkid in a room with sandusky alone"
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527. ""Remember little Jay, never sit on Uncle Jerry's lap!""
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528. "LOL"
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529. "AP reporting that JoePa agrees to retire at season's end"
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Not acceptable.

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530. "This is what I expected to happen"
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531. "Why bother having him stay the rest of the season?"
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Even from a purely practical standpoint, why would you want this dude coaching games in Columbus next week and in Madison the next? That's not going to go well.

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534. "it's about what joe wants...plain and simple"
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> why would you want
>this dude coaching games in Columbus next week and in Madison
>the next? That's not going to go well.

it's going to go HORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRIBLY, lol.

  

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532. "what a selfish, selfish fool"
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i still cant imagine him being on the sidelines or in that booth this saturday...

what's going to happen is that his players are going to take the brunt of the backlash and they don't deserve that.

joe straight up doesnt give a fuck. he's putting himself before the university and before his players. the players he recruited and swore to their parents that he'd protect.

  

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535. "joe is in heavy denial right now...anything to deflect this shit"
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is what hes gonna do..he knows hes caught up....

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537. "Seriously, could u play for this dude after this??"
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538. "thats what i'm thinkin..what do the current players REALLY think?"
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fools taking showers in sweats and shit...

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539. "LOL, not to make light but this made me think of high school"
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>fools taking showers in sweats and shit...

This dude I played lacrosse with used to shower in just a wife beater.

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540. "LMAO"
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>fools taking showers in sweats and shit...

you think sandusky was above installing cameras in those showers? given what's taken place, all bets are off...

  

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546. "i wouldnt put it pass him with his all access VIP pass he had"
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>>fools taking showers in sweats and shit...
>
>you think sandusky was above installing cameras in those
>showers? given what's taken place, all bets are off...

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548. "RE: i wouldnt put it pass him with his all access VIP pass he had"
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Is the team really his demographic?

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553. "oh youre right.i guess ..not many virgins in that bunch i'm sure"
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543. "I'm sure a lot them are playing for a shot at the NFL and not..."
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some 84-year old half-senile white dude.

At this point what do you expect them to do? Quit the team? I'm sure some will probably transfer after the season but for now they're going to play. I'm sure they're all thinking "wtf, our coaching staff and school administrators are a bunch of dirtbags" but at the end of the day their going to do what they have to do.

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541. "it's gonna be a LONG two months for Paterno"
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hopefully he's shocked into his senses once Penn State goes on the road

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542. "you'd think the Big 10/NCAA could intervene here"
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>hopefully he's shocked into his senses once Penn State goes
>on the road

joe won't feel shit cause he'll be up in the booth oblivious to the world.

Mcqueary gonna be on that sideline noticeable as all hell with that red hair...he's gonna get fucked with big time. and however undeserving, the players will too.

  

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545. "Fuck Paterno, the kids and clean coaches are who will suffer"
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even the fans...how can you show up to the rest of the games and feel like cheering on anything associated with what's hanging over this program? He's a stubborn dick for putting that on them by sticking around. They have a good chance of being invited to the Rose Bowl and it will feel undeserved for them to accept the invite as long as he's still hanging around.

  

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549. "Can you imagine the Parade of Roses if they made it?"
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550. "I'm saying."
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he still clearly lives for the adoration. that scene last night in front of his house was evidence of that. I'm hoping the outright public HATE that's coming, and relentless media badgering, will force him to realize this is a horrible idea and resign sooner.

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566. "I doubt he does it himself"
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he'll get axed before it gets too ugly...I hope...

I also think that we might not find out just how deep this rabbit hole goes.

  

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570. "i mean, he wants to go to columbus"
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that would go well.

the university needs to do everything possible to make sure that does not happen.

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588. "and yall go to madison the week after, correct?"
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easily the 2 worst venues for him to be visiting...you couldn't write a worse script than this.

  

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624. "I can't wait to see some of the signs the crowds come up"
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with at OSU and Wisconsin.

Do you think OSU and Wisconsin officials will try to censor the crowd and take away signs from fans?

It could get real ugly for Penn State and JoePa at those two spots. Would ABC/ESPN cameras even show crowd shots?

  

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554. "reportedly he didn't consult the board. this statement means nothing."
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actually, all it means is he lobbying to end on his terms. the board need not and will not accept that.

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555. "and the other option is...what exactly"
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this is the 3rd time I've asked this question

for everybody calling for JoePa's head

what exactly is the other option, compared to him staying?

so you fire him

then what?

you're not going to get someone outside the program to coach the rest of the season

and everyone on that staff has been there prior to 98'

you'd have to promote someone from within the program, which would just put that person in the line of fire instead of JoePa

wouldn't be fair to that person, and you'd let JoePa escape some of the public abuse he will have to endure as staying on as the coach

do you just cancel the rest of the season

wouldn't be fair to the players, and the NCAA talks in $$$ signs

the scope that this scandal is reaching has no limits, yet everyone is focused on just JoePa

the police were notified, and the case was not prosecuted

McQuery did not go to the police, and his grand jury testimony is not the story that was told to JoePa initially

the 3rd incident with the janitor, never reported

and the parents? do they not notice anything?

the Second Mile non-profit also has some culpability

etc, etc, etc...

but everyone is focused on JoePa's job, like that is the solution

I'm not saying he's completely innocent, because we don't know right now, but alot of other people are alot more guilty than he is, and they are getting no attention


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556. "YeahNO"
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>but everyone is focused on JoePa's job, like that is the solution

Wrong

>I'm not saying he's completely innocent, because we don't know right now,
>but alot of other people are alot more guilty than he is, and they are
>getting no attention

Oh the rest of us know. You know why you don't? Because you haven't read shit about this case.

JoePa testified IN THE GRAND JURY that he was told it was sexual nature.

cut this shit.

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557. "and the other option is...what exactly"
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and I honestly tried to read the grand jury testimony, but it's too disturbing to get through the whole thing

but what's the other option

fire him, have him do press conferences everyday in his front yard, while some interim coach and the players are attacked by the questions he should be answering

and when you consider the scope

everyone has to go

do you do that now

which would mean not finishing the season and punishing the players



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560. "dude's the face and he's culpable and he's got to go"
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like yesterday.

this is serious.

fuck the football team and who coaches it.

  

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564. "if they have to cancel the season so be it"
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he cannot coach another game. period.

  

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569. "and you think the $$NCAA$$ would let that happen"
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573. "you really don't seem to understand what's happened here"
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584. "what's happening here"
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is a discussion about how to proceed

which the only option voiced has been to fire JoePa

i'm leaning more toward shutting down the whole program, today

but that leads to additional questions and concerns

Where is the NCAA in all of this?

are they deliberating on a possible punishment, are they going to step in, or are they going to let PSU handle this internally?

if the season is played out, what are the ramifications of that? see JoePa doing press conferences on his front lawn comment above

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589. "firing him is step 1"
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there's a lot that needs to be done

  

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598. "crazy how both those things can be true."
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>firing him is step 1

>there's a lot that needs to be done

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600. "a lot of it is damage control"
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which they dont seem to understand.

and is paterno playing games now with this 'i'll retire later' bullshit?

  

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602. "that'd be funny if he was on some 'SIKE! I WAS JUST PLAYIN'"
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>and is paterno playing games now with this 'i'll retire later'
>bullshit?

and i truly wouldnt put it past him

  

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559. "Figure heads work both ways"
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He's largely regarded as a symbolic figure head of the program as it is now, with little coaching or recruiting duties other than being the face of the program. That works in the programs advantage here because he can be the figure head to fall on his sword and walk away, let the coordinators and coaches handle the rest of the season, worry about the structure of the program later. It wouldn't be difficult at all to have co-head coaches between Hall (who, no, hasn't been associated as long as this scandal has been baking) and Bradley. It's happened before when HCs step down or take medical leave and the sooner PSU makes it clear Paterno is no longer involved, the better. How, as a parent, are you going to let this program into your living room to talk to your kid about committing as long as they let Joe hang around?

  

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563. "and those guys knew Sandusky too"
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so if JoePa is done today, do you think an interim HC is not going to get barraged by the same questions

what did you know?

what did you see?

etc...

i don't think anyone on that campus is completely innocent

they have perpetuated a culture which allowed this to happen

they all need to go

but if you do that now, it's the players that ultimately suffer

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568. "WHO GIVES A SHIT? smh"
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>so if JoePa is done today, do you think an interim HC is not
>going to get barraged by the same questions
>
>what did you know?
>
>what did you see?
>
>etc...
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574. "They had no authority over Sandusky and this is about 1.5 months"
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of football. PSU could go 12-1 with a Rose Bowl win and, as long as Joe sticks around, nothing they do on the field is going to matter. The coordinators already do 90% of the work every other headcoach does, let them just be the yoemen for the remainder of the season and get the elephant out of the room. I don't see what harm you think could actually be done by telling Joe to leave now...oh no, they won't have their fake head coach around any more?

  

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590. "apparently he's concerned they'll have to answer questions"
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>I don't see what harm you think could actually be done
>by telling Joe to leave now.

  

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594. "SHUT IT DOWN, NOW"
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just voicing my concerns and opinions before I arrive at a conclusion

i say SHUT IT DOWN, NOW, shut the whole thing down, NOW




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603. "there is such thing as a happy medium"
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i dont think many would have a problem if they played out the season so long as paterno and mcqueary arent there

  

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605. "and go on the road next week to OSU"
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649. "ain't nobody at OSU give a fuck about galen hall"
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i feel like im having a convo with joe pa right now

  

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661. "RE: ain't nobody at OSU give a fuck about galen hall"
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exactly, so the kids would be the target

if you run that team on the field in OSU with JoePa, he's the target

fire him, and the kids become the target

only solution I see, SHUT IT DOWN


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561. "Gutting the staff is the BEST look for them right now..."
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....from a public relations standpoint ....if they send Joe out there again to represent the school, it sends a HORRIBLE message ...keeping Joe there is like just scraping away little bit of a tumor, but leaving a whole lot of cancer there to rot away at the school ..they need to get it all out and start the "healing" process

  

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571. "the university needs to do something drastic."
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it can't treat this like business as usual.

if that means having lowly assistants coach the last home game for senior day, so be it.

if that means forfeiting the last 2 road games, so be it.

what's going on is too serious to go on like it's not happening.

fuck you.

  

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576. "yeah, you're right"
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I guess I just feel bad for the players that have nothing to do with this being punished

and for some interim having to clean up the mess

Has the NCAA issued a statement or anything in regards to this?

Couldn't they just step in and shut it down instead of leaving it to PSU to handle?

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581. "i've asked the same thing."
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i imagine any NCAA action wouldn't/couldn't be immediate.

fuck you.

  

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"It seems like another glaring omission"


  

          

with all the scandal from last year, that the NCAA doesn't even seem to be involved at this point

they would have been notified of the investigation and/or participated, no?

why are they just letting PSU handle this?


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595. "this is so much sicker than free tattoos."
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fuck you.

  

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601. "NCAA doesnt have jurisidiction per one of their talking heads"
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i just heard on the radio

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610. "people are being idiots dude. it's a witchhunt at this point"
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667. "I'm not sure you know what witchhunt means then."
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558. "silly old man..he doesn't realize he wont coach saturday.."
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...or ever again ...NO WAY he's still the coach by saturday morning

  

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639. "what makes you so sure? the old man seems to be calling his shot"
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and since nobody's been able to tell him different for 40 plus years, what leadership have you seen at PSU to indicate he can't?

Because the Board of Trustees had a meeting about forming a committee to have a meeting about a meeting?

These motherfuckers are so bogged-down & powerless they're getting outmanuevered by an 85-year-old man leading cheers on his front lawn.

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562. "who thinks it's coincidental it comes down right after he passed eddie"
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robinson?

that give you any more lingering doubts about the justice system in state college?

i still blame hip-hop.

  

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565. "RE: who thinks it's coincidental it comes down right after he passed edd..."
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>robinson?
>
>that give you any more lingering doubts about the justice
>system in state college?


HMMM..i didnt even think about this...good point..slimeballs

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567. "i do. it was a state investigation months in the making."
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and i don't think paterno's reach extends that deep into harrisburg. it's deep there, but it's not quite that deep

if they really were sitting on it, why not sit on it until the end of season? what's another two months if you've been conspiring for year

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572. "counter-edit"
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that's fair i suppose. the timing still fails the smell test to me.

i still blame hip-hop.

  

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575. "why wouldn't they wait till offseason?"
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577. "yeah that's hard to answer."
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if they held the indictment for even a week holding it for another month and a half doesn't seem farfetched.

i still blame hip-hop.

  

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580. "these dudes are a mess, though"
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and I am suspicious that paterno will be protected and that we won't get all the facts.

  

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578. "lol, these dudes can't release a statement the right way"
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you think they could plan anything right now?

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582. "it wouldn't take a vast conspiracy to slow up an indictment tho"
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it'd just take one joe pa sympathizer in the right position of power.

you guys make valid points and it could be completely coincidence but i think the timing is worth questioning, even if you ultimately dismiss it.

i still blame hip-hop.

  

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579. "Westboro Baptist Church to protest Saturday"
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so some good will come out of this, since those fucks are, possibly literally, about to die.

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583. "holy shit this is the first time i've agreed with one of their protest l..."
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i think.

i mean, i assume their protest will be hate centered and at best tangentially related to the actual fucked up behavior at hand, but at least it's not a kid's funeral i guess.

i still blame hip-hop.

  

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586. "Is this their first protest away from a cemetary??"
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591. "Far from"
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They've been at a number of non-funeral public events.

  

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592. "God bless em"
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They seem like the types that would be okay with covering up pedophilia for some reason.

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596. "Well, Fred Phelps is okay with child and spouse abuse"
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You should read the story of Nate Phelps, the son who ran away.

  

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599. "yeah that's a good read. tough tho."
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i still blame hip-hop.

  

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587. "Still...they are walking into a snake pit. A drunken hillbilly snakepit."
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This could finally be the violent ass kicking Westboro has been cruising for.

  

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604. "could be a bonus."
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the odds of mob violence generally seems at least decent this weekend in happy valley.

i still blame hip-hop.

  

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593. "This is the best possible outcome"
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They're gonna die
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597. "Sandusky was on the damn campus last week working out"
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that right tells you a whole lot.

and, JoePa continues coaching the rest of the season? what.a.joke.

he should step down immediately himself.


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606. "Spanier out TODAY (swipe)"
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http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/breaking-news/index.ssf/2011/11/penn_state_president_graham_sp.html

Penn State President Graham Spanier will quit or be fired today in wake of Sandusky charges, source says

Penn State University President Graham Spanier will either resign or be voted out by the end of today, a source close to the board of trustees told The Express-Times.

An interim president, most likely Executive Vice President and Provost Rodney A. Erickson, will be appointed and a nationwide search for a permanent replacement will begin, according to the source who requested anonymity.

Spanier was made aware in 2002 that a graduate assistant coach had seen former assistant coach Jerry Sandusky allegedly sexually assault a young boy in a shower in the Penn State locker room, according to grand jury testimony. Spanier did not involve police, according to testimony. Spanier has not been charged, but there have been many calls for his resignation.

Sandusky has been charged with 40 counts of sexually abusing children.

Two university administrators -- athletic director Tim Curley and Vice President Gary Schultz -- face charges related to a cover-up. Spanier, who was named president in 1995, in recent days has shown his support for the administrators.

Head coach Joe Paterno, the winningest coach in Division I history, announced this morning he will retire at the end of the season.

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608. "On Paterno keeping his gig til season's end."
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Here is my read on it, Paterno basically earned the right to call his shot here on when he leaves. Further, his staying or going won't make life any easier on the players and it will probably make things tougher on him. I mean, he could run and hide apart from judicial proceedings if he left, now he has to face mics and questions all the time.

From PSU's standpoint, they had to give him what he wanted and I would argue it was beneficial that he wanted to stay. This goes above Paterno, this goes to the AD and probably to the very highest level of the university. As long as he's got responsibility there and he's cashing a check, he really cannot shoot his mouth off. Had they ushered him out and maybe even if he wanted to leave, he'd have spilled his guts about the way the information flowed up the chain of command and the way the decision trickled back down.

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611. "He earned the right to make this call by not making the right call b4?"
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Interesting.

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612. ":(. this kind of thinking is the whole reason this happened!"
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>Here is my read on it, Paterno basically earned the right to
>call his shot here on when he leaves.

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642. "How the FUCK is that how this happened?"
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People are conflating Paterno's silence--which was certainly a group decision if not a mandate from his superiors--with the act itself. Protecting Paterno was a small slice of the greater interest in keeping this hush hush. Now, as I said if you read the full post, protecting his job (and also exposing him to the scrutiny that will come with it) is part of the damage control. Really whether he's canned now or in two months, that makes very little difference in the long run. It buys a little time from the school's standpoint, it placates Paterno and it keeps some paper-thin level of stability in the program for the balance of what's been a successful season to this point.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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645. "no person should be above an institution "
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after this tragedy, why does Paterno have the right to determine how and when he retires? that's the kind of misguided hero worship that led to a decades-long cover up. if Larry Johnson Sr. had walked in on the janitor raping a boy, do you really think the VP and AD would have kept it under wraps? of course not. but when it came to Sandusky, a legendary member of the "Penn State family", they let him "retire" on his own terms as well...

I don't see any reason to placate Paterno either. the administrators above him are already in their graves. and I believe that in his heart, even if fired, he would still protect Penn State. he loves the university too much, so beyond his legal obligation, there wouldn't be any dirt for him to fling.

anyway, his current "megaphone at a pep rally" behavior is abhorrent enough as it is.

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657. "^^^^"
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658. "Brilliantly put."
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662. "you haven't been paying attention"
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> and I
>believe that in his heart, even if fired, he would still
>protect Penn State. he loves the university too much, so
>beyond his legal obligation, there wouldn't be any dirt for
>him to fling.

if we've learned nothing else, it's that joe pa is a selfish fuck that's looking out for himself and his legacy at all costs. he's going to hold on to that job like he's holding on to his life and regardless of what it means to his players or the success of the PSU program in the short and long term.

if they fuck with joe, he's gonna go out blasting and we all know theres a lot of dirt that's still been uncovered.

i defintiely agree with the premise that PSU still employing joe pa is a way to keep him under wraps.

  

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613. "not to mention him staying gives the impression he did nothing wrong"
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regardless what public perception is
they were saying that Phil Martelli had to deal with something similar and he handled it the SAME way JoePa did
difference is...his administration followed up
i just found out that JoePa TOLD SCHOOL POLICE
nobodies talking about that tho....

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615. "just found out from where? Link?"
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>i just found out that JoePa TOLD SCHOOL POLICE
>nobodies talking about that tho....

*Jews you*

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618. "wasn't Schulz also the campus police director?"
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when Joe went to Curley, Schulz was also in the meeting. either C or S also ran the campus police. so that qualifies as Joe going to the campus police.

but it appears Joe may have reported the shower rape in a manner that downplayed its seriousness. but maybe McQuery hadn't given Joe the same explicit detail he gave the grand jury, so maybe Joe didn't exactly downplay what he'd heard.

fuck you.

  

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630. "No, he wasn't."
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As VP of business and finance, his duties included oversight of campus police, but based on his title, that sounds more like a budgetary thing than being police commissioner.

Either way, campus police wouldn't have the power to do anything about this beyond conducting an investigation and reporting it to the regular police.

They did an investigation on sandusky four years earlier, and chose not to tell the regular police. This time, they didn't even do that, despite having an eyewitness.

*Jews you*

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633. "yeah, that's it."
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that's the fact ppl are using to say that Joe went to the campus police.

even if that's accepted as true, it's not enough to excuse Joe's inaction after that meeting.

fuck you.

  

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632. "No, he wasn't."
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As VP of business and finance, his duties included oversight of campus police, but based on his title, that sounds more like a budgetary thing than being police commissioner.

Either way, campus police wouldn't have the power to do anything about this beyond conducting an investigation and reporting it to the regular police.

They did an investigation on sandusky four years earlier, and chose not to tell the regular police. This time, they didn't even do that, despite having an eyewitness.

*Jews you*

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616. "he told the police, the police did nothing, and he didn't follow up."
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the man has great power at the school. w/great power comes great responsibility. he should've done more than just talking to the campus police director one time. he should've followed up.

and he knew Sandusky was still involved w/kids after the 2002 shower incident he heard about. it seems he did nothing about that.

he must've known Sandusky was still bringing kids on campus after the 2002 incident. as late as 2007 he was seen w/a kid on campus. it seems Joe did nothing about that.

his alleged actions may not have been illegal (that's questionable), but they were morally reprehensible.

fuck you.

  

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622. "him telling school police is a MAJOR detail nobody knew tho. that"
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's my whole point
everybody calm the fuck DOWN and let the facts slowly come out

as far as him following up....he's an 80 yr old man who speaks on time delay...not Batman
He notified authorities with the info he had (which apparently wasn't much) and the AUTHORITIES decided to handle it the way they did

btw the grand jury investigation went on for 2 yrs.....OMG WHY DIDN'T THEY GO TACKLE SANDUSKY!!!!!
not the way it works
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626. "RE: him telling school police is a MAJOR detail nobody knew tho. that"
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But that doesn't matter. Joe had the reach to stop it fully and didn't. If he knew what was going on, and didn't he failed to act. They all knew and kept coaching as if nothing happened. Sick shit all around, he an everybody involved should be fired.

  

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627. "nice trolling, fella. LOL"
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good luck w/it.

fuck you.

  

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652. "lol"
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>as far as him following up....he's an 80 yr old man who speaks
>on time delay...not Batman
>He notified authorities with the info he had (which apparently
>wasn't much) and the AUTHORITIES decided to handle it the way
>they did
>
>btw the grand jury investigation went on for 2 yrs.....OMG WHY
>DIDN'T THEY GO TACKLE SANDUSKY!!!!!
>not the way it works
>ppl are idiots
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625. "yeah, go to the damn regular police right away"
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go back to the campus police. alert the damn media or district attorney, if nothing else. JoePa let this slide for many years still befriending Sadusky.

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628. "yup."
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that 1 meeting w/campus police doesn't excuse the next 9 yrs of inaction. even Joe understands that.

fuck you.

  

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629. "are there any details on the relationship between JoePa and dude"
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post 1999?
or are ppl assuming they hung out?
it's entirely possible joepa didn't fuck wit dude at all after that , iono

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631. "LOL"
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fuck you.

  

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634. "RE: are there any details on the relationship between JoePa and dude"
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http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/willful_ignorance

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648. "lol"
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Good link.

  

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664. "in other words...u don't know"
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665. "all u need to know is that sandusky was a known sexual predator"
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as early as 98 or 2002 at the latest.

and joe pa and PSU harbored him.

who gives a fuck whether paterno invited sandusky over to his crib on sundays.

  

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619. "lol"
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>i just found out that JoePa TOLD SCHOOL POLICE
>nobodies talking about that tho....

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620. "you gotta source that shit"
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it seems strange that he'd tell the police and then let the dude work out there and do whatever for 9 more years.

  

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651. "this right here is what deads ANY defense of Joe Pa"
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> and then let the
>dude work out there and do whatever for 9 more years.

because its about so much more than whether or not he followed the proper protocol when reporting the incident way back in 98/2002. that's just the tip of the iceberg. it's what happened after.

joe and PSU straight up HARBORED a known serial child rapist for years. they provided sandusky with a safe haven...a literal fuckin playground for him to continue his predatory ways and to do it under the guise of the PSU brand.

  

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621. "This gonna go 10x plat before the mods allow a part 2?"
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635. "someone started a punishment thread"
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if JoePa actually quits now I'm happy to unlock Bomb's thread from yesterday if people want to actually discuss candidates.

Wait... you're not using dial up are you?

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646. "Page loading isnt the problem"
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It's the clusterfuck of new responses that is.

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640. "lol..idiot is an understatement."
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>SPM's idiocy is getting harder and harder to find.



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641. "Penn State's Board of Trustees Email Address:"
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bot@psu.edu

It's going to send you a confirmation email with a link you have to click through, and i don't know who reads this but hell, if you've got time to express your outrage to strangers on a message board you've got time to express your outrage (at least sort of) to the people who are charged with responsibility here.

just saying.

i still blame hip-hop.

  

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647. "i just sent an email that read.. GEN-ER-AL POP-U-LA -TION"
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"double"
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643. "Spanier has resigned supposedly..BOT to announce it tonight"
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644. "omg i just read the grand jury inditment i think im gonna be Sick "
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That bitch should be murdered

  

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650. "Meyer a possible Paterno successor?(swipe)"
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http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ap-pennstate-future


With Meyer available, Penn State will have opening

By RALPH D. RUSSO, AP College Football Writer 26 minutes ago

The last game Urban Meyer coached for Florida was against Penn State and Joe Paterno.

Now it’s possible Meyer could be the man to replace Paterno, the winningest coach in Division I history, whose 46-season run with the Nittany Lions is ending because of a child sex abuse scandal involving a former assistant coach.

Paterno announced Wednesday that he will retire at the end of the season, though the board of trustees could cut that short.

This is certain: Penn State is going to hire a football coach for the first time since 1966 and one of the most successful of the last decade is available.

Even before former Nittany Lions defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky was charged with molesting eight boys over 15 years, there had been talk that Penn State officials had reached out to Meyer about eventually replacing Paterno.

Meyer, though, has given no indication that he’s ready to return to coaching — anywhere. The Ohio State job could also come open at the end of the season, and Meyer is an Ohio native. Some Buckeyes fans have already started counting the days until Meyer takes over in Columbus.

“I’m not worrying about down the road,” he told The Associated Press in a phone interview last week. “I do miss it. I miss a lot of things about it, but I’m also am really enjoying another part, that’s I get to watch my kids play sports.”

But that won’t stop the speculation and Meyer’s name will be far from the only one to come up.

Expect Miami coach Al Golden, a former Penn State player, to be mentioned, as well as Rutgers coach Greg Schiano, who spent six seasons on Paterno’s staff in the 1990s.

Though having ties to the old staff might not be a good thing anymore.

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660. "if meyer went to PSU "
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it would clearly mark the pinnacle of Truth's posting career, lmao.

the suggestion of meyer to PSU right now is pretty funny.

  

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654. "One of the prime examples of how power can warp reality"
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From the PSU admin reactions to JoePa's statements.....these dudes have lost complete touch with reality. In terms of psychology, reminds me of a lot of the early 2000 CEO's who were so used to a certain lifestyle and lived in such a bubble that they placed themselves above normal rules and regulations.

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666. "completely accurate"
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>RE: One of the prime examples of how power can warp reality

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655. "Everyone employed by Penn State here should be jailed."
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Save for the janitors. They actually made an attempt to fly it up chain of command. They should probably have told the police independently as well but I have to believe that they would think that after taking it to authorities at the school, it'd be addressed.

Them and the Grad Coach were in a bind but I know that grad coach saw him with kids again.

If you saw him with kids more than once after KNOWING what has been accused in the past and about him cying on the phone or WITNESSING something?

JAIL.

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656. "jeezus, what the fuck?"
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http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/11/09/mark-madden-wrote-about-the-jerry-sandusky-scandal-in-the-beaver-county-times-in-april/

Mark Madden Wrote About the Jerry Sandusky Scandal in the Beaver County Times in April
College Football, Media Gossip/Musings TheBigLead November 9th. 2011, 2:49pm

Mark Madden, best known as a radio blowhard who was fired from ESPN a few years ago, was incredibly prescient about Jerry Sandusky’s Penn State sex scandal. Madden nailed the story on April in a column for the Beaver County Times. How did this get no pickup in April?

It seems logical to ask: What did Paterno know, and when did he know it? What did Penn State’s administration know, and when did they know it? …

Worst-case scenario: Sandusky is charged. Then it seems reasonable to wonder: Did Penn State not make an issue of Sandusky’s alleged behavior in 1998 in exchange for him walking away from the program at an age premature for most coaches? Did Penn State’s considerable influence help get Sandusky off the hook? …

A grand jury, spurred by a complaint made by a 15-year-old boy in 2009, has been investigating Sandusky for 18 months. Witnesses include Paterno and Penn State athletic director Tim Curley. Interviewing Paterno about a subject like this had to have been one of the single most uncomfortable acts in the history of jurisprudence.

The last line in the column is pretty depressing. And if Paterno is allowed to coach the rest of the season, accurate.

  

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it was greeted with the same response that this thread initially received

  

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663. "April? Holy fuck, this just gets worse."
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