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"Tressel E-Mails Released -- his career could be over (link)"
Tue Mar-08-11 10:04 PM by brown sugar

  

          

http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/documents-read-the-actual-jim-tressel-emails-29547

Fuck yes, this deserves its own thread.

This is far and away worse than I could have *ever* imagined. I'm reading this shit in utter disbelief.

(1) The press-conference led me to believe that the attorney e-mailing Tressel was: representing the tattoo artist, an attorney working for the firm representing the artist, or an attorney working for the DA who had connections. That does *not* seem to be the case when reading the e-mails. This just seems like someone with an inside connection to law enforcement (as evidenced by the opening line of his first e-mail, "a lot of my friends are in law enforcement"). Sure he might be *a* attorney, but the "vow of confidentiality to protect the integrity of an ongoing federal investigation" takes a SERIOUS blow as an excuse (errrr "defense") in an NCAA investigation.

(2) Tressel's tacit acknowledgment of an offer to conduct an illegal activity *for* Tressel. The e-mailer states he MAY ATTEMPT TO STEAL THE SIGNED MEMORABILIA (keep in mind, protected evidence of an ongoing federal investigation) if "the opportunity presents itself." Tressel's responds with "thanks for your help," which is indeed a tacit acknowledgement, if not encouragement, to carry out such an act. This is the bombshell to me, because on one hand, Tressel uses upholding the integrity of an "ongoing federal investigation" as a ruse for his "confidentiality" yet, on the other hand, he is encouraging the obstruction of that very investigation. Maybe I'm misconstruing something, but that is damning.

(3) Pattern of deception and possible player-wide cover-up orchestrated by Tressel. The e-mailer tells Tressel to (a) show the players the tattoo artist's picture so that they can avoid him and (b) to tell them to *not* call the tattoo artist's cell phone number as it is being monitored by the feds. Tressel certainly listened to the "keep confidential" advice, and there is no reason to think he didn't take the aforementioned steps either. If so, he perpetrated an even further, willful concealment of a violation of NCAA rules. This is not just "keeping quiet about reporting something," this becomes taking tangible steps to cover it up. The NCAA will be interrogating each and every player to determine this, I guarantee it.

All in all, I really can't believe this. The OSU fans on this board were clowning Yahoo! for their "anonymous source." I knew they had something... but THESE WRITTEN RECORDS???

I could be wrong, but I just do not see this ending well.

<-- BAUGH SO HARD

  

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"Have A Blessed Easter"
Mar 08th 2011
1
lmao!!!!
Mar 09th 2011
90
http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/5221755/1024/Anonymous/Picture-1.png
Mar 08th 2011
2
i think it's a wrap for old sweatervest
Mar 08th 2011
3
fuck
Mar 08th 2011
6
He's done. He's got to be.
Mar 08th 2011
4
i came up with that shit after 5 min of reading the emails
Mar 08th 2011
5
lol @ you so desperate and reaching
Mar 08th 2011
7
I like you, but you're in denial man.
Mar 08th 2011
8
If it was that bad, I think we would have fired him or forced his resig ...
Mar 08th 2011
9
      depends on how long the investigation takes
Mar 08th 2011
11
      no, it's that bad, but you're an SEC school
Mar 09th 2011
54
dude... snap out of it
Mar 08th 2011
10
LULZ
May 30th 2011
723
I wanna post in this bullet point style.
Mar 08th 2011
12
i see OSU fans are on that "deny deny deny" gameplan
Mar 08th 2011
13
nobody's denied anything
Mar 08th 2011
14
one more possible devastating detail:
Mar 08th 2011
15
you planning on going to bed tonight? lol
Mar 08th 2011
16
      believe me, it's a pleasant distraction from my real work.
Mar 08th 2011
17
      lol its sad.
Mar 09th 2011
21
lol @ yahoo sports being the ones to expose this, that's rich
Mar 09th 2011
18
I guess their USC reporting was not credible?
Mar 09th 2011
19
quite the opposite
Mar 09th 2011
65
      I still don't get it
Mar 09th 2011
73
           you might not but the OSU contingent gets why that's funny/ironic to me
Mar 09th 2011
87
                Gotcha nm
Mar 09th 2011
89
Violations were self reported and the investigaton was already underway
Mar 09th 2011
20
Yahoo broke the story!
Mar 09th 2011
34
      There was an internal leak, and thats how Yahoo found out.
Mar 09th 2011
37
           yes, they were the first to report it -- THEY BROKE THE STORY
Mar 09th 2011
51
                you and others are acting like Yahoo started this investigation
Mar 09th 2011
52
                     they broke the story. they were the ones to expose this first.
Mar 09th 2011
53
                          thank you
Mar 09th 2011
66
whats funny is how they were considered uncredible during reggie gate
Mar 09th 2011
28
      Outside of Bomb, who questioned Yahoo's credibility during
Mar 09th 2011
36
           That's the question I'm asking Bomb
Mar 09th 2011
62
           quite a few actually (mostly mainstream media types), the Bush
Mar 09th 2011
64
           Outside of them and SI, no one even tries for serious investigative
Mar 09th 2011
67
                well, newspapers used to but we know how that is nowadays
Mar 09th 2011
69
           beats me...i really dont know what point bomb is trying to make
Mar 09th 2011
134
                sure you don't n/m
Mar 09th 2011
144
                great response to reinforce your non-point
Mar 09th 2011
147
                     *smirks*
Mar 09th 2011
151
                I think that was my skeptical behavior @ Yahoo
Mar 11th 2011
265
two game suspension is being reported. fuck the ncaa
Mar 09th 2011
22
The two games/$250k is self-imposed....
Mar 09th 2011
30
      I'm guessing he gets 6 games.
Mar 09th 2011
31
           lol, who besides Brown Sugar is "clamoring" for "death penalty shit?"
Mar 09th 2011
63
lol.
Mar 09th 2011
23
LOL @ Hamsterdam college football
Mar 09th 2011
39
oh shit, post 32 ...
Mar 09th 2011
46
That's all I've been saying. Why try to pretend otherwise?
Mar 10th 2011
174
And I don't want to hear anything about Big 10's academic standards
Mar 09th 2011
24
Hey, we all know that O$U is really the $EC North...
Mar 09th 2011
25
RE: Hey, we all know that O$U is really the $EC North... <---- LMAO
Mar 09th 2011
33
lol. academic standards?
Mar 09th 2011
27
Jim Delaney does, and I've heard some fans do that
Mar 09th 2011
38
      Professor Baldy and the newest Big10 member (DeepAZ) do
Mar 09th 2011
49
           i always thought everyone understood i meant "except osu"
Mar 09th 2011
78
           with the exception of maybe northwestern
Mar 09th 2011
135
           lol
Mar 09th 2011
154
           welp
Mar 24th 2011
528
lol
Mar 09th 2011
42
cats angrier over this then they are over goldman sachs nm
Mar 09th 2011
26
yeah lets root for cam everybody!!
Mar 09th 2011
29
and you're angrier over goldman sachs than Fannie and Freddie..
Mar 09th 2011
40
      lol
Mar 09th 2011
41
      lolol
Mar 10th 2011
238
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKrL8x13nig (R.I.P. Hamsterdam)
Mar 09th 2011
32
why is it always you though?
Mar 09th 2011
35
he's been in Ann Arbor for 10 years, and has seen one win over us
Mar 09th 2011
43
no, Tressell is the bad look here
Mar 09th 2011
72
I'm not saying it's not, but it is for scorned UM fans as well
Mar 09th 2011
156
wrong.
Mar 09th 2011
166
      no wonder it's "brown sugar" - puts the bitch out in the open
Mar 10th 2011
178
           lmao....ether.
Mar 10th 2011
179
           wow you are a dumb bitch.
Mar 10th 2011
187
                it's telling that you apparently see all_stah as the proper posting stan...
Mar 10th 2011
191
                fatality gif goes here:
Mar 10th 2011
192
                lol....bs stays losing. just like his alma mater.
Mar 10th 2011
193
                     lmao you are the biggest bitch of all
Mar 10th 2011
212
                          go study some more. and I'm still waiting on that report.
Mar 10th 2011
214
                               what's your job again?
Mar 10th 2011
220
                                    lmao, so predictable.
Mar 10th 2011
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                                         you're bad at responding to insults
Mar 10th 2011
234
                                              I DONT CARE.
Mar 10th 2011
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                                                   lol YOU BROUGHT IT UP
Mar 10th 2011
237
                                                        wow, you were better off not even responding
Mar 12th 2011
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                                                             i started hibachi
Mar 12th 2011
324
                its not just all stah
Mar 10th 2011
209
                just doing as told
Mar 10th 2011
251
who cares 20 year olds do dumb shit
Mar 09th 2011
44
Spielman on Mike&Mike this morning....
Mar 09th 2011
45
Holy shit, that's some serious homerism
Mar 09th 2011
61
all i keep comparing this to is JT Jr. and Rayful Edmond
Mar 09th 2011
47
*kanye shrug*
Mar 09th 2011
48
This is the worst part of it to me
Mar 09th 2011
50
what was the reasoning again?
Mar 09th 2011
55
      ^ether
Mar 09th 2011
58
      see, he secretly got a commitment during the preseason
Mar 09th 2011
59
           meanwhile, another top flight PA recruit just chose TOSU over PSU.
Mar 09th 2011
76
                like paying the players and hooking them up with cars.
Mar 09th 2011
79
                     STOP IT
Mar 09th 2011
81
                          Just say 'scoreboard' and K.I.M.
Mar 09th 2011
82
                          See, this is what you tOSU guys aren't getting.
Mar 09th 2011
101
                               you can't blame a horse for acting like a horse
Mar 09th 2011
106
                               Now see...
Mar 09th 2011
108
                               Well said nm
Mar 09th 2011
107
                               GET'EM
Mar 09th 2011
109
                               He admitted to an error in judgement...*shrug*
Mar 09th 2011
110
                               *hangs head*
Mar 09th 2011
113
                               But you are wrong and have this backwards
Mar 09th 2011
119
                               Lol, no.
Mar 09th 2011
121
                               RE: Lol, no.
Mar 09th 2011
126
                                    How did they downplay it? They treated it as a major violation
Mar 09th 2011
131
                                         That Gee quote is not a good look at all
Mar 09th 2011
133
                               you really think journalists are free from bias? seriously?
Mar 09th 2011
136
                              
Mar 09th 2011
123
                               Hit the nail on the head
Mar 09th 2011
112
                               What is it about? Set the goalposts.
Mar 09th 2011
130
                               speaking of the school newspaper article: Give Tressel the boot
Mar 09th 2011
138
                                    uh oh....GRANT MUTHERFUCKING FREKING
Mar 09th 2011
142
                                         YOU => http://i9.tinypic.com/6jdabu9.jpg
Mar 10th 2011
181
                          lol. find me pictures or police reports and we'll talk
Mar 09th 2011
95
                               You're being intentionally stupid
Mar 09th 2011
99
                                    DUIs, fights, and weed do not equal free cars and 3 Gs cash
Mar 09th 2011
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                                    RE: DUIs, fights, and weed do not equal free cars and 3 Gs cash
Mar 09th 2011
111
                                         one is something all students do everywhere, one isn't
Mar 09th 2011
114
                                              God ya'll are the most sadsack miserable old motherfuckers
Mar 09th 2011
118
                                                   oh, i'm not mad, especially not at the players
Mar 09th 2011
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                                                   RE: oh, i'm not mad, especially not at the players
Mar 09th 2011
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                                                   This isn't about the kids, as much as it is about the coach!
Mar 09th 2011
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                                                   i'm not defending the rules re: the players
Mar 09th 2011
124
                                                        Reply 48
Mar 09th 2011
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                                                             Tressel is DIRTIER than others, that's what we now know
Mar 09th 2011
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                                                             Read up on oversigning
Mar 09th 2011
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                                                                  oversigning, while excruciatingly dirty, is not the same
Mar 09th 2011
141
                                                                       Ok, go get at the 3rd string DE who needed his schollie and got cut
Mar 10th 2011
186
                                                                            so when you're done arguing with someone who isn't here
Mar 10th 2011
195
                                                             LMAO...we damn sure couldve used ray small...duron carter too
Mar 09th 2011
137
                                                                  I said who he thinks he doesnt need
Mar 09th 2011
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                                                                       well i would say we needed him
Mar 09th 2011
145
                                    lol, i just saw that one of the evil nine was prank phone calls
Mar 09th 2011
105
                                         RE: lol, i just saw that one of the evil nine was prank phone calls
Mar 09th 2011
115
LMAO
Mar 09th 2011
77
      From Berea actually.
Mar 09th 2011
148
Not good.
Mar 09th 2011
56
I, for one, am completely shocked! SHOCKED!! I tell you!
Mar 09th 2011
57
its a lot of tea partiers in Ohio trippin right now
Mar 09th 2011
60
I heard he quoted Bush in his press conference?!! lmao
Mar 11th 2011
266
holy shit mgoblog just went in go now go to this link
Mar 09th 2011
68
375?!??!?
Mar 09th 2011
70
LOL @ this one
Mar 09th 2011
74
He added another one, under the AJ Hawk one
Mar 09th 2011
80
god damn @ 375.... come on son!
Mar 09th 2011
83
I still think selling your own ish shouldn't be illegal.
Mar 10th 2011
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      but it just creates another thing they have to police
Mar 12th 2011
315
           true. maybe putting a cap on how much a player
Mar 12th 2011
325
ayo, Bomb, did these osu fools go in on you over reggiegate?
Mar 09th 2011
71
oh I'm gonna be laughing at this mainly for that reason
Mar 09th 2011
75
Jim Tressel and the NCAA: A timeline
Mar 09th 2011
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If Tressel were a rookie or young coach I think people
Mar 09th 2011
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      a rookie coach doesn't get this job, if ur at this level, u kno the deal
Mar 09th 2011
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           I didn't mean a first time HC
Mar 09th 2011
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This looks really bad but I doubt the NCAA imposes any more
Mar 09th 2011
85
oh the NCAA *at least* has to hit The Vest harder than the school did
Mar 09th 2011
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      No doubt that I agree that they should, I just doubt that they will
Mar 09th 2011
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      we shall see, I'm *very interested* to see how this gets handled
Mar 09th 2011
93
           Of course you and evey SC fan is or should be very interested
Mar 09th 2011
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                #98
Mar 09th 2011
100
      at least as hard as they hit Dez Bryant & the coach deserves a
Mar 09th 2011
94
           Its gonna be *very interesting*(c)Tim Hardaway Knick/Heat brawl postgame
Mar 09th 2011
98
                Vacating last season will definitely be part of the punishment.
Mar 09th 2011
102
                     Question, and I'm being totally serious here: what do YOU think the
Mar 09th 2011
104
                     Probation for 2 years, vacating last season and 6 games seems fair.
Mar 09th 2011
116
                     this is actually about what I was thinking they get too
Mar 09th 2011
117
lol @ this "program"
Mar 09th 2011
128
lol O-LIE-O lol
Mar 09th 2011
146
help me out with this
Mar 09th 2011
140
so u went with 'find a strawman' rather than discuss The Vest's cover up
Mar 09th 2011
143
that's a heck of a conspiracy theory
Mar 09th 2011
149
      bwahahaa
Mar 09th 2011
150
its a stupid reach on their part..nm
Mar 09th 2011
152
hell, maybe it isnt
Mar 09th 2011
153
if they didn't agree they wouldn't be allowed to play in the bowl game
Mar 09th 2011
155
*piling on* About the tipster....
Mar 09th 2011
157
loltresselol
Mar 09th 2011
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lol at how much you have in common with a michigan fan
Mar 09th 2011
159
      lol @ Vest getting EXPOSED as a pious scumbag is 'hatin'
Mar 09th 2011
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           right...OSU has been pretty unsucessful the past 10 years
Mar 09th 2011
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                less successful than USC in those 10 & far less successfull historically
Mar 09th 2011
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                     SC: irrelevant and over and done with...nobody cares
Mar 09th 2011
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                          K
Mar 09th 2011
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ya apparently the guy is something of a nutjob
Mar 09th 2011
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      sounds like a typical scumbag coach who skipped 3 clear opportunities
Mar 09th 2011
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           *fatality*... *finish him!*
Mar 09th 2011
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           lol, you're trying too hard
Mar 09th 2011
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                nah, that was really pretty easy n/m
Mar 09th 2011
169
There are not enough psssss' or bullet points in this post
Mar 09th 2011
171
Lol, seriously...dude is a lawyer and he sends emails like that?
Mar 09th 2011
172
and sends it to a fucking .EDU account?
Mar 10th 2011
182
the p.s.s.'s got me lol
Mar 10th 2011
173
If there were an SEC school this post would be at 300 plus.
Mar 10th 2011
175
http://i20.tinypic.com/nvprms.jpg
Mar 10th 2011
183
is that a Youngstown joke?
Mar 10th 2011
185
      lol @ Youngstown
Mar 10th 2011
194
      it's one of america's finest cities
Mar 10th 2011
215
      nah, they'd have to be in the SHADE!!! - lol
Mar 11th 2011
268
cam newton just won yall a chip and a heisman and nobody cares
Mar 10th 2011
184
time to move the goal post
Mar 13th 2011
360
Too disappointed to post on this yesterday.
Mar 10th 2011
177
Eh, its not even a big deal...I dont care anymore
Mar 10th 2011
180
      lol nice hedging
Mar 10th 2011
188
           *shrug* it is what it is....he lied, he'll get punished.
Mar 10th 2011
189
Remember USC's former athletic director?
Mar 10th 2011
190
this ain't reggie/mayo-gate
Mar 10th 2011
196
True, cause actually, Pete Carroll was never tied to direct knowledge
Mar 10th 2011
250
      now youre arguing just for the fun of it
Mar 10th 2011
255
What point are you trying to make?
Mar 10th 2011
197
      None. Everyone's just mad and out to get you.
Mar 10th 2011
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           k. for a second I thought you were drawing parallels
Mar 10th 2011
199
                pretty sure thats what he is doing
Mar 10th 2011
200
                     Stay strong, Buckeye Nation
Mar 10th 2011
201
                          u can draw a legit parallel
Mar 10th 2011
202
                               That you guys are acting like cocks, was the point
Mar 10th 2011
203
                                    ^backpedaled faster than Antoine Winfield
Mar 10th 2011
204
                                    How so?
Mar 10th 2011
205
                                         Oh ok, I see what youre saying.
Mar 10th 2011
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                                              Dude, that's pathetic.
Mar 10th 2011
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                                                   im a met fan
Mar 10th 2011
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                                                   I don't speak to anyone else's motivations
Mar 10th 2011
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                                                        I'm pretty sure it will be thrown at us..I dont think anyones denied tha...
Mar 10th 2011
219
                                                        oh I'll deny that as being heavy, that ain't really shit actually
Mar 10th 2011
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                                                        RE: I don't speak to anyone else's motivations
Mar 10th 2011
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                                                   At least you have lacrosse...*shrug*
Mar 10th 2011
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                                                        At least I don't tie my self-esteem to the performance of sports teams
Mar 10th 2011
221
                                                             Self Esteem? really?
Mar 10th 2011
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                                                                  Dunno. You seem to be taking all this mad personal.
Mar 10th 2011
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                                                                       This is a message board. People talk shit.
Mar 10th 2011
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                                                                            where is this official?
Mar 10th 2011
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                                                                                 just my guess as to whats gonna happen.
Mar 10th 2011
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                                                                                      i just think the having the 'book thrown at us' stuff
Mar 10th 2011
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                                    you got something specific you wanna reference?
Mar 10th 2011
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                                         Don't know/care about you and brown sugar's issues with one another
Mar 10th 2011
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                                              lol. thanks for demonstrating your point.
Mar 10th 2011
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                                                   Clearly
Mar 10th 2011
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                                                        It was a comment made by Kirk Herbstreit
Mar 10th 2011
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                                                        gee, hope quoting herbstreit didnt offend you
Mar 10th 2011
224
                                                             ?
Mar 10th 2011
232
                                                                  no. i think veritas and I were the only ones on earth that caught it
Mar 10th 2011
241
The osu fans on this board have always struck me as delusional...
Mar 10th 2011
229
*HERE IS THE ATTENTION YOU CRAVE*
Mar 10th 2011
230
That's ether. I'll say this though: If they aren't one of
Mar 10th 2011
236
      wake me when a SEC school self-reports a violation
Mar 10th 2011
254
           UGA has. Plus UGA has sent top flite talent to
Mar 10th 2011
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                Like you said, self reporting is not some rare deal. SEC schools do it.
Mar 10th 2011
262
                I shouldve been more specific to Auburn
Mar 11th 2011
286
Precedent:
Mar 10th 2011
239
stuff like this is generally evaluated on an individual basis
Mar 10th 2011
242
basically.
Mar 10th 2011
244
anybody here demanding chizik or kiffin to be fired?
Mar 10th 2011
245
      OKS reaction is pretty variable
Mar 10th 2011
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      RE: OKS reaction is pretty variable
Mar 10th 2011
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           so you think Oregon and Auburn are equal in stature
Mar 10th 2011
259
                so IOW, you agree with me. i appreciate your objectivity
Mar 11th 2011
273
      just curious: what do we have Kiffin caught doing comparable to this?
Mar 10th 2011
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           fair enough...but i suppose the same could be said for chizik
Mar 10th 2011
257
                oh I would say a lot of people have been 'swayed' by this charade
Mar 10th 2011
258
                     yeah, tress was really a fan favorite on here prior to this
Mar 11th 2011
269
                          uh, this has clearly changed the way Tressel is viewed everywhere
Mar 11th 2011
279
                               yeah, people who already didnt like him will now like him less
Mar 11th 2011
281
                                    lol @ u still thinkin this is about 'liking' Tressel rather than Vest's
Mar 11th 2011
298
Yup. Right now it's OSU's call to treat this like it's almost nothing.
Mar 10th 2011
261
RE: Yup. Right now it's OSU's call to treat this like it's almost nothin...
Mar 11th 2011
272
      He knowingly lied about a pretty serious investigation.
Mar 11th 2011
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           lol, no its not. Nothing is ever straightforward with the NCAA.
Mar 11th 2011
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           witheld information, lied to his university, lied to the NCAA even after
Mar 11th 2011
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           ah ah ahhhh. nobody's talking about the goofy ass NCAA
Mar 11th 2011
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                maybe there were many more involved w/this than tressel?
Mar 11th 2011
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                     Sure, anything is possible.
Mar 11th 2011
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                     the idea that Tressel's done anything but lie at every opportunity
Mar 11th 2011
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                          lol why stop there? keep writing that script my man...
Mar 11th 2011
301
                          who needs a script when we have that Pious Prick's emails & pressers?
Mar 11th 2011
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                               next january should be fun for you
Mar 11th 2011
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                                    your deflections have begun to mirror Stuttervest's speaking on Tuesday
Mar 11th 2011
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                                         I'm relegating my comments to future fallout only
Mar 11th 2011
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                                              maybe I should just email it to your .edu, whatever u do dont tell a mod
Mar 11th 2011
309
                          lol, trying too hard....again.
Mar 11th 2011
305
                               oh that's absolutely right as rain, sorry
Mar 11th 2011
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                                    k.
Mar 11th 2011
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           thanks for your answers
Mar 11th 2011
282
                I couldn't care less about Cam Newton.
Mar 11th 2011
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                     RE: I couldn't care less about Cam Newton.
Mar 11th 2011
287
no one is "demanding" that the liar be fired but it's amazing how OSU
Mar 11th 2011
267
      RE: no one is &quot;demanding&quot; that the liar be fired but it's amaz...
Mar 11th 2011
270
           but u r mad tho - *shrugs*
Mar 11th 2011
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                smh...thats all you could come up with?
Mar 11th 2011
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                it doesn't matter what I say... y'all are delusional as hell - lol
Mar 11th 2011
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                so go on the record ..whats ur prediction as to what hte NCAA does?
Mar 11th 2011
278
                     I have no idea... I'm waiting to see just like y'all..
Mar 11th 2011
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                          soo, as usual...nothing meaningful to add...got it..nm
Mar 12th 2011
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                               http://i55.tinypic.com/33ykx3p.jpg
Mar 16th 2011
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                why is my name always in your mouth?
Mar 11th 2011
310
                says the guy praying that another man loses his job
Mar 11th 2011
283
                     wow.. you're furious... lol
Mar 11th 2011
289
                     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3VFnbojEyE
Mar 11th 2011
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^ talkin bout it ^
Mar 10th 2011
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2 years of probation was deemed not harsh enough for extra stretching
Mar 10th 2011
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lol. who on here or in the press suggested a harsher penalty for UM?
Mar 10th 2011
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      the ncaa did. the two yrs was self applied, a 3rd was tacked on
Mar 10th 2011
248
           gotcha
Mar 10th 2011
249
support this post on many levels &quot;career over?&quot; cmon
Mar 11th 2011
264
well, at least barry switzer has our back, lol
Mar 11th 2011
290
lol Dick Rod too...
Mar 11th 2011
293
let's be positive...
Mar 11th 2011
294
That's like slapping your wife and Ike Turner coming to your defense
Mar 11th 2011
295
Or Mike Vick joining PETA...
Mar 11th 2011
297
      yeah but that inoffensive and for the record i hate switzer bc of OU
Mar 13th 2011
358
ol' Switzer thought it was cool to bring a gun on a plane too
Mar 11th 2011
296
Wild (3) Hunnids (c) bblock
Mar 11th 2011
300
You guys could use this.....
Mar 11th 2011
312
NCAA rules Arkansas State must forfeit wins (ineligible players)
Mar 12th 2011
313
BUT... BUT... IT'S NOT PRECEDENT!
Mar 12th 2011
314
at least dirty SEC schools win championships...lolzers
Mar 12th 2011
316
^^^AUTHENTIC DISCOURSE
Mar 12th 2011
317
^ Lindsay Lohan'in this post ^
Mar 12th 2011
318
lmao at this:
Mar 12th 2011
320
'Relololentless" Buckeye fans force Herbstreit to move
Mar 12th 2011
319
lol good!
Mar 12th 2011
321
good, i hope he takes that fucknut lawyer cicero with him
Mar 12th 2011
326
yall are killing me
Mar 12th 2011
329
nobody's celebrating
Mar 12th 2011
331
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPn0KFlbqX8
Mar 13th 2011
338
dude they're in the middle of FUCKING NOWHERE lol
Mar 13th 2011
355
      oh, your dumbass again. lol. trolls coming out of the woodwork here.
Mar 13th 2011
356
this is the shit that kills me about y'all
Mar 12th 2011
335
      lollll
Mar 13th 2011
336
      Everybody does that with significant outliers
Mar 13th 2011
337
      meaning, he goes out of his way to agitate folks
Mar 13th 2011
339
lol @ the idiotic "vocal minority" responding to this post
Mar 12th 2011
327
      i wouldnt get started on the fatal attraction, obsessive type stuff
Mar 12th 2011
328
      he 'pictures' alot if shit...creepy as hell
Mar 12th 2011
332
           i picture you rubbing one out for 3x on your nightly skype date
Mar 12th 2011
333
                its a shame all this creative talent is going to waste in law school
Mar 12th 2011
334
      i think you mean idiotic vocal "minority"
Mar 13th 2011
340
           Go make another post abt what blk people should be embarrassed about
Mar 13th 2011
341
                he can't. he's too busy preparing urine specimens to throw at OSU'ers
Mar 13th 2011
343
Lol at the bombASStic troll all over this thread
Mar 12th 2011
330
you continue to amaze me w/your stupidity, what I told your dumb ass
Mar 14th 2011
361
      A. You're obviously not college educated and it shows
Mar 14th 2011
362
           wrong on all counts per usual, bye n/m
Mar 15th 2011
364
                What ever makes you sleep better at night..carry on trolling
Mar 15th 2011
377
Hold up, y'all think Tres-dawg fallin on his sword to cover the ADs ass?
Mar 13th 2011
342
im not reading anything by bruce hooley but thats what i mentioned above
Mar 13th 2011
344
      so basically he's still lying and is an even bigger cheater
Mar 13th 2011
345
      what was said above that reads like a 'defense' to you?
Mar 13th 2011
346
           RE: what was said above that reads like a 'defense' to you?
Mar 13th 2011
350
                RE: what was said above that reads like a 'defense' to you?
Mar 13th 2011
352
                     teehee i win.
Mar 13th 2011
357
                          You hit a new low every time you hit post message
Mar 15th 2011
363
                               apparently theres much confusion over the definition of winning
Mar 15th 2011
366
      you should read the article or at least this part:
Mar 13th 2011
348
           all of this is old news and has been discussed...
Mar 13th 2011
349
           maybe Tressel nodding can be misinterpreted but why wouldn't
Mar 13th 2011
351
                RE: maybe Tressel nodding can be misinterpreted but why wouldn't
Mar 13th 2011
353
                also on this note
Mar 13th 2011
354
           hooley is supposedly getting canned by 97.1 The Fan
Mar 15th 2011
367
Ohio State fans are giving Kentucky fans a run for their money in here.
Mar 13th 2011
347
the parallels are uncanny
Mar 13th 2011
359
I now see where you're coming form on that
Mar 16th 2011
396
ARCHIVE
Mar 15th 2011
365
co-sign
Mar 15th 2011
368
Nah.. keep it open until the NCAA releases their findings
Mar 15th 2011
369
      Oh, not now, just getting it in there
Mar 15th 2011
370
           or when Tressel's career is over..nm
Mar 15th 2011
371
                "could be over"
Mar 15th 2011
372
                     some internet people no longer like him
Mar 15th 2011
373
                          http://www.covershut.com/covers/Tammy-Wynette-Stand-By-Your-Man-Front-Co...
Mar 15th 2011
375
                               reality can be a bitter pill
Mar 15th 2011
376
                                    lol meanwhile in Baton Rouge....
Mar 16th 2011
388
buffoonery
Mar 15th 2011
374
utter and total.. lol
Mar 15th 2011
378
crazy fans? should we talk about what went on in the stands
Mar 16th 2011
379
      add Wisconsin and LSU to that list as well
Mar 16th 2011
383
fans of schools who have done dirt putting down OSU who has done dirt
Mar 16th 2011
380
It's not that.. it's denying the dirt when it's your turn...
Mar 16th 2011
381
yup he still on it too (quoting Bush) lol
Mar 16th 2011
382
that, and acknowledgement that it's a joke that he's still employed
Mar 16th 2011
384
he's done enough good in the community to get a mulligan
Mar 16th 2011
386
      yeah no.
Mar 16th 2011
392
      RE: yeah no.
Mar 16th 2011
393
           But what if Brian Kelly did good work in the community, like the Vest?
Mar 16th 2011
395
                RE: But what if Brian Kelly did good work in the community, like the Ves...
Mar 16th 2011
397
                lol.
Mar 16th 2011
399
                     RE: lol.
Mar 16th 2011
405
                It really does.
Mar 16th 2011
401
      HAHAHAHAHAHAHA ARCHIVE
Mar 17th 2011
446
           http://i30.tinypic.com/2rolrm1.jpg
Mar 18th 2011
459
           ^still ironing his Evan Royster jersey.
Mar 18th 2011
461
that's the entire point, in other situations OSU & Tressel pretended
Mar 16th 2011
385
      lol, oh...now basketball has something to do with this?
Mar 16th 2011
387
           yes, I'm sure that recruiting class was brought in on the up & up
Mar 16th 2011
389
                so in other words...you have nothing. carry on.
Mar 16th 2011
390
                     I don't need anything, that's the point, odds are in my favor
Mar 16th 2011
391
                     there's a level of cheating at ALL programs....nobody denied that
Mar 16th 2011
394
                     The funny part is youve convinced yourself you made a valid point
Mar 16th 2011
406
                          it's not an open-and-shut case like Tressell's hypocritical ho ass
Mar 17th 2011
410
                     the Sixers-First year Heat fan is just starving for attention
Mar 17th 2011
407
Wild (4) Hunneds
Mar 16th 2011
400
If this was an SEC school it's be at 12,000 posts
Mar 16th 2011
402
      Damn, we cant even beat SEC schools at post counts?
Mar 16th 2011
404
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUNSxRJfwyM
Mar 16th 2011
403
Tressel stays classy backing his players and making haters mad
Mar 17th 2011
408
So? Your program's still dirty.
Mar 17th 2011
409
keep hating I'm proud to be a Buckeye
Mar 17th 2011
411
      Some people value integrity, some people don't.
Mar 17th 2011
412
           I worked hard for the diploma on my wall
Mar 17th 2011
413
                If that's really the case...
Mar 17th 2011
416
                     I'm not concerned with the negativity on okayplayer
Mar 17th 2011
417
                          You sure you got that diploma?
Mar 17th 2011
420
                               you got me
Mar 17th 2011
421
                               Lol..more like pathetic.
Mar 17th 2011
434
                                    You're welcome to try to match wits with me anytime.
Mar 17th 2011
439
                                    didnt one of their lax players murder another student last year?
Mar 17th 2011
445
if we somehow get through the first 5 unscathed...and I think we do
Mar 17th 2011
414
First game back is Nebraska, first home game is Wisconsin
Mar 17th 2011
415
      nebraska is away
Mar 17th 2011
418
           Oh damn I'm booking my hotel this week
Mar 17th 2011
419
                if they make that shit a night game
Mar 17th 2011
422
                I'm not a fan of night games personally
Mar 17th 2011
425
                     the wait sucks...the day drags on forever
Mar 17th 2011
426
                          I always get the itch and hit a tailgate by 1 or 2
Mar 17th 2011
430
                               you'll have to wake up early
Mar 17th 2011
440
                If you are talking about Lincoln, you better start early
Mar 17th 2011
431
                     No I was talking Columbus for the Wisconsin game
Mar 17th 2011
433
That's not class
Mar 17th 2011
423
All good if my team lost to him year after year I'd be mad too
Mar 17th 2011
424
I'm not mad... I *WANT* Tressel to stay
Mar 17th 2011
429
that's *all* it is.
Mar 17th 2011
427
basically, although Tressell still can't even really own it
Mar 17th 2011
444
if anybody needs a cliffs notes for this entire thread
Mar 17th 2011
428
Whatever it is, he isn't gonna lose his job.
Mar 17th 2011
432
      1) I don't personally want him to lose his job (see above)
Mar 17th 2011
435
           at least our coach didn't cheat and break practice violations
Mar 17th 2011
436
           improper benefits is orders of mag more serious than stretchgate
Mar 17th 2011
438
           why is it always just about 'stretching'? lol
Mar 17th 2011
441
                im not making assumptions, ive actually read the documentation
Mar 18th 2011
466
                     RE: im not making assumptions, ive actually read the documentation
Mar 18th 2011
472
                          lol, cmon
Mar 18th 2011
477
                               RE: lol, cmon
Mar 18th 2011
479
           are you really that dumb?
Mar 17th 2011
443
                take all the extra illegal practices you want your team needs it
Mar 18th 2011
452
           You prob won't ever see a win over us again in hoops either
Mar 17th 2011
437
                you've become a sad caricature of yourself
Mar 17th 2011
442
                     Matta 14-2, Tressel 9-1. bye loser.
Mar 17th 2011
450
HAHAHA EVEN KARL ROVE AINT SPIN THIS HARD
Mar 17th 2011
447
wait, you actually believe that don't you?
Mar 17th 2011
448
I wonder if guru & 3x resent that they have to vouch for that idiot here
Mar 17th 2011
449
      he's the brown sugar of osu fans
Mar 17th 2011
451
      lol!!!!
Mar 18th 2011
456
      damn, you're really really selling yourself short there
Mar 18th 2011
463
      still trolling I see you're like the energizer bunny
Mar 18th 2011
453
      not at all
Mar 18th 2011
454
      Dude is a die hard Sixers- first year die hard Miami Heat fan
Mar 18th 2011
455
           im oblivious to the happenings in nba threads
Mar 18th 2011
470
                why the hell would i be mad?
Mar 18th 2011
474
                yeah...we don't believe you...sorry
Mar 18th 2011
475
                RE: im oblivious to the happenings in nba threads
Mar 18th 2011
478
                he's posted numerous times that no one cares about OSU/ college sports
Mar 21st 2011
508
      Nope.
Mar 18th 2011
458
           better y'all than me
Mar 18th 2011
462
                You have the other troll with the pink avatar in your corner
Mar 18th 2011
464
                     I enjoy talking about retards more than w/them, go find a buddy ur speed
Mar 18th 2011
465
                          Here's your 15 seconds of attention
Mar 18th 2011
476
http://oi53.tinypic.com/1zo7wqe.jpg
Mar 18th 2011
457
More proof that no sport causes more crazy than NCAA football.
Mar 18th 2011
460
*shrug* when practice gate first came out i was the first
Mar 18th 2011
467
Well, and I honestly don't mean this in a patronizing way...
Mar 18th 2011
468
      ^^^^^Frank gettin his 'Mike Garrett' on
Mar 18th 2011
473
      LMAO @ "all SEC teams"
Mar 19th 2011
481
           Michigan :Specializing in desperation hire after desperation hire
Mar 19th 2011
485
           Rich Rod wasnt a desperate hire...Hoke was tho
Mar 19th 2011
492
           its been 3 seasons
Mar 19th 2011
488
                on what planet is 7-6 a losing season?
Mar 19th 2011
491
                     geezus we've been over this to death
Mar 19th 2011
494
except all of the osu fans here agreed JT fucked up but overall i agree
Mar 18th 2011
469
      Tressel might not have to get on a plane to land a top 5 class
Mar 18th 2011
471
      damn you went there lol
Mar 18th 2011
480
      JoePa = good at not dying and winning meaningless games
Mar 19th 2011
486
      the whole Midwest for some reason is going to be nuts
Mar 19th 2011
482
      lol so mad.
Mar 19th 2011
483
this post is filled with so many examples of battered women syndrome
Mar 19th 2011
484
Good show guys, this post has and will continue to entertain me....
Mar 19th 2011
487
^^
Mar 19th 2011
489
so do Buckeye fans expect Tressel back for Nebraska?
Mar 19th 2011
490
yes
Mar 19th 2011
493
I have a nagging feeling he's suspended the entire year...*shrug*
Mar 20th 2011
496
      that's what I think as well
Mar 20th 2011
497
           I would commit yourself to 250-300 a ticket on up
Mar 20th 2011
498
           I'm debating between the Nebraska game or the game @ Miami
Mar 20th 2011
499
                I'm 50/50 for Miami and definite for Wisconsin
Mar 20th 2011
501
                     *IF* Tressel is back for Wisconsin, I dont think I have a choice
Mar 22nd 2011
513
           lol, what tabloid site did u read this on?
Mar 20th 2011
502
                those penalties would really piss me off...but I dont see it either..nm
Mar 20th 2011
503
                I don't even remember, just bouncing around the sports sites
Mar 20th 2011
505
Hold up, Tressel's suspension goes to 5 games AFTER OSUs appeal
Mar 20th 2011
495
Wild (5) Hunneds.
Mar 20th 2011
500
basketball
Mar 20th 2011
504
RE: basketball
Mar 20th 2011
506
      lol go worry about marquette faggot
Mar 20th 2011
507
lol Mike Bianchi of Orlando thinks Meyer will coach TOSU in 2012
Mar 22nd 2011
509
Attempts to reach Meyer for comment so far unsuccessful:
Mar 22nd 2011
510
lol.
Mar 22nd 2011
511
maybe in 2020
Mar 22nd 2011
512
Pearl being fired for lying is extremely bad timing/precedent for OSU..
Mar 23rd 2011
514
      Not really, but whatever gets your hopes up of beating us this decade
Mar 23rd 2011
515
           lol you are really sensitive about this
Mar 23rd 2011
516
           Hardly..its a stupid comparison bc its two entirely diff scenarios
Mar 23rd 2011
517
                obviously no case is the same, but dont act like there are no parallels
Mar 23rd 2011
524
                     Lol, the parallels are irrelevant..each case is separate from the others
Mar 23rd 2011
527
           you're extremely defensive...I mean I get it but I'm simply pointing out
Mar 23rd 2011
518
                RE: you're extremely defensive...
Mar 23rd 2011
519
                because you're assuming nothing else will be unearthed during a
Mar 23rd 2011
520
                     this factoid is kinda frivolous
Mar 23rd 2011
521
                          RE: this factoid is kinda frivolous
Mar 23rd 2011
522
                          and repeated the effort after troy's $500 handshake
Mar 23rd 2011
523
                          i agree with this one hundred percent
Mar 23rd 2011
525
                               i have no idea
Mar 23rd 2011
526
                ^^ this.
Mar 24th 2011
529
NCAA Could Consider Ohio State 'Repeat Violator' (laink)
Mar 24th 2011
530
i think this is spot on:
Mar 24th 2011
531
      put your money where your mouth is then bitch
Mar 24th 2011
532
           i dont gamble and ur coming across a little
Mar 24th 2011
533
                It's a donation dummy.
Mar 24th 2011
534
                     holler at me when ur $120,000 in debt lol
Mar 24th 2011
535
                          *words smallest violin* lol at you and your entire existence.
Mar 25th 2011
551
                               i don't get it.
Mar 25th 2011
552
                                    not surprised. dumb ass.
Mar 25th 2011
558
                                         what does it say about my existence tho?
Mar 25th 2011
559
                                              lol
Mar 25th 2011
562
Ohio State football: Tressel's emails were forwarded
Mar 25th 2011
536
caught red-handed, pimp-slapped backwards & left stranded(c)Kurupt
Mar 25th 2011
537
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VePxbFQ-qfw
Mar 25th 2011
538
This isnt anything new to the NCAA or TOSU brass.
Mar 25th 2011
539
      you've been saying a year long suspension all along?
Mar 25th 2011
541
           scroll up.
Mar 25th 2011
545
                lying bitch: see post 31
Mar 25th 2011
546
                     ^broke and dumb bitch.
Mar 25th 2011
548
                          post 31.
Mar 25th 2011
549
http://bit.ly/f12G8x
Mar 25th 2011
540
Reactions (this is disastrous for Tressel):
Mar 25th 2011
542
#537 + 'Bitch Tressell, You More Of A Bitch Than A Bitch'(c)Young Gotti
Mar 25th 2011
543
      the sad part is... Tressel seems like a OG thug
Mar 25th 2011
544
           Yea, he just seems naive
Mar 25th 2011
547
           ghetto ass hotmail just makes the scene funnier
Mar 25th 2011
550
                no. your joke failed. move on.
Mar 25th 2011
560
                     lol is this what you have been reduced to?
Mar 25th 2011
561
                          pointing out how stupid you are is fun & u deflecting and squirming
Mar 25th 2011
563
                               deflect? squirm?
Mar 25th 2011
564
           I hate UCLA but Ill give credit where it's due, they fired Harrick's ass
Mar 25th 2011
553
                thats nice. but USC isnt doing shit for another decade.
Mar 25th 2011
555
                     Stuttervest Lyin/Hypocrisy Stay Flyin/Buckeye Fan Denyin/I'm Tryin
Mar 25th 2011
565
wait. so it wasnt just tress and the 5 suspended players that knew?
Mar 25th 2011
566
      of course he was privy to it dumbass
Mar 25th 2011
567
      you've got a screw loose, kiddo
Mar 25th 2011
568
           translation: can't formulate a coherent response to my post
Mar 25th 2011
569
      I just can't see any way possible that Gene Smith didn't know abt it
Apr 26th 2011
612
why in the fk does this post have over 500 replies?
Mar 25th 2011
554
Michigan trolls, a quasi USC fan, ..and TOSU fans.
Mar 25th 2011
556
Pryor's High School Coach, Ray Reitz, to The Dispatch:
Mar 25th 2011
557
HBO: Stanley McClover received "cash," "sexual services" from OSU
Mar 29th 2011
570
NCAA alleges Jim Tressel not honest
Apr 25th 2011
571
*phew* at no mention of "lack of institutional control"
Apr 25th 2011
572
Darius didn't sign with an agent...
Apr 25th 2011
573
      I thought I read an MgoBlog tweet saying he signed...my bad.
Apr 25th 2011
574
           Man it's really hard to say considering how bad the offense looked...
Apr 25th 2011
575
no new news is good news
Apr 25th 2011
580
Urban Meyer will coach TOSU in 2012 - Beano Cook
Apr 25th 2011
576
Regarding Beano, I thought the same thing
Apr 25th 2011
577
      also, didn't Beano say Pawlus would win THREE Heismans?
Apr 25th 2011
578
           I believe it was two and the article says two
Apr 25th 2011
579
                Beano is great though
Apr 25th 2011
581
Jim Tressel's Future At Ohio State (vid)
Apr 25th 2011
582
Jim Tressel shouldn't have a future at OSU & they deserve at least
Apr 25th 2011
583
      Chris Spielman, Robert Smith and Herbstreit all think it's possible
Apr 25th 2011
584
      did you really just say HERBSTREIT? hahahha
Apr 26th 2011
586
           did you ignore Robert Smith and Chris Spielman??
Apr 26th 2011
588
                i like spielman and smith
Apr 26th 2011
599
      LOFL...espn got you pretty riled up huh
Apr 26th 2011
585
      nothing changed, the Vest still blatantly lied & should be fired if the
Apr 26th 2011
596
      still trying too hard..U$Cs violations were far more egregious
Apr 26th 2011
587
           no, they weren't, Carroll didn't get caught red-handed lying to the NCAA
Apr 26th 2011
595
                might've been that pesky lack of institutional control thing
Apr 26th 2011
597
                oh yes, your institution displayed impeccable control in this situation
Apr 26th 2011
603
                     moron or troll - which one is it?
Apr 26th 2011
608
                          RE: moron or troll - which one is it?
Apr 26th 2011
614
                               RE: moron or troll - which one is it?
Apr 26th 2011
621
                                    RE: moron or troll - which one is it?
Apr 26th 2011
627
                                         ok, it's official. you really don't get what it means...
Apr 27th 2011
631
                                              lol
Apr 27th 2011
632
                                                   ^^^Runnin Hot(c)MIchael Phillip Jagger
Apr 27th 2011
633
                                                        Never heard it/of it
Apr 27th 2011
638
                                                        mandel's take...not mine
Apr 28th 2011
645
                Lolol
Apr 26th 2011
601
                     Vest's a hypocrite, liar, & sanctimonious scumbag-far worse than Carrol
Apr 26th 2011
                     the bowl game is interesting
Apr 26th 2011
609
                          Yea, I wouldnt be surprised if that win isnt vacated....nm
Apr 27th 2011
644
http://twitter.com/#%21/ESPN_Colin/status/62671024960962561
Apr 26th 2011
589
oooh a Colin Cowherd tweet! damn we're fucked!
Apr 26th 2011
590
^ proof that the delusion also includes OKS ^
Apr 26th 2011
591
      ^still a fan of a loser program^
Apr 26th 2011
593
           http://i54.tinypic.com/15xra74.jpg
Apr 26th 2011
594
                Didnt think so. You scared.
Apr 26th 2011
600
                     lol - Apocalypse is at your door step.. cry about it...
Apr 26th 2011
604
                          ^Still scared.
Apr 26th 2011
605
                               keep fighting the good fight... bout all you got at this point..
Apr 26th 2011
610
                                    ^a shook one
Apr 26th 2011
615
                                         you can reply last but that won't keep the NCAA from gang raping
Apr 26th 2011
619
                                              RE: you can reply last but that won't keep the NCAA from gang raping
Apr 26th 2011
624
                                                   They'll come up with some other bs plea cop
Apr 26th 2011
626
                                                        got enough people on record as far as that goes
Apr 27th 2011
630
                                                             http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/2/shining.gif
Apr 27th 2011
639
cowherd: the official authority on social behavior
Apr 26th 2011
598
http://i53.tinypic.com/spkt4g.jpg
Apr 26th 2011
592
Hahaha! Losers.
Apr 26th 2011
602
lol another L for the state of ohio
Apr 26th 2011
606
Tressel countwatch starts..... NOW
Apr 26th 2011
607
Filthy cheater, rather have Rich Rod
Apr 26th 2011
611
I believe this can reach 700 by Memorial day weekend
Apr 26th 2011
613
Agreed, its a pain in the ass to read on my phone though.
Apr 26th 2011
616
Only if he keeps lying
Apr 26th 2011
617
      lol
Apr 26th 2011
618
      if he's breating, he's lying, so we're good & doin' numbers
Apr 26th 2011
620
      hahahhahh
Apr 26th 2011
622
      http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/2/LeBrondance.gif
Apr 27th 2011
641
Terrible look for the OSU cats up and down this post
Apr 26th 2011
623
LMAO...can u read mutherfucker?
Apr 26th 2011
625
shit is borderline cultish lol
Apr 26th 2011
629
^^
Apr 27th 2011
634
ya think? - lololololololol
Apr 27th 2011
635
      Dead heat in South Dakota
Apr 27th 2011
636
           with poll error margins, Vest's seeming steady in Sioux Falls!
Apr 27th 2011
637
                Vest still has a fighting chance in Rhode Island..
Apr 27th 2011
640
                     this thing of ours, we're a lock here(c)Providence voter to Vest's .edu
Apr 27th 2011
643
Here too:
May 10th 2011
662
lots of Ls in this post... on both sides
Apr 26th 2011
628
http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/2/dance.gif
Apr 27th 2011
642
I blame those SEC bowl game losses as the start of this,
Apr 28th 2011
646
Report: Players traded, sold 36 items
Apr 28th 2011
647
NCAA upholds ruling against ex-USC assistant Todd McNair (link)
May 01st 2011
648
http://media.mlive.com/wolverines_impact/photo/9538983-large.jpg
May 04th 2011
649
ahahahaaaa
May 04th 2011
650
      whoever put this on a billboard deserve a medal of honor
May 04th 2011
651
Ohio State to investigate players' car deals (link)
May 07th 2011
652
tressel has examined the most amateur bunch of crooks ever
May 07th 2011
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      But he said he is still making payments on the car
May 07th 2011
656
In other news Jim Tressel knew where Osama was hiding for 2 months
May 07th 2011
653
That explains all the signed OSU memorabilia that was found in the compo...
May 07th 2011
655
      lol
May 07th 2011
657
oh. these dumb fucks got free cars???? mwahahahahaha.
May 07th 2011
658
Well not "free". They just paid zero dollars for them.
May 10th 2011
660
      or $13,700...but the facts clearly aren't what's important here
May 11th 2011
664
           good timing
May 11th 2011
665
           deeds for 0 normally mean its going from one family member
May 11th 2011
666
           sounds like gibson was trying to avoid paying sales tax to me
May 11th 2011
667
           its a 30k car new so thats still less than half of the cars value
May 11th 2011
668
           its a USED car...how can you speculate on its value?
May 11th 2011
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                Ask for the CarFAX!!!
May 11th 2011
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           WRONG...espn on it
May 11th 2011
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http://i52.tinypic.com/2lsd645.gif
May 10th 2011
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I can't believe I haven't posted in here yet
May 10th 2011
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They need him suspended for a full year, no contact with OSU.
May 10th 2011
663
he's gone
May 11th 2011
669
ironically putting a show-cause on him only affects other schools
May 11th 2011
670
*doing my part to get this to 700 by 5/30/2010*
May 11th 2011
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Spielman says he's done
May 12th 2011
675
Any good cheaters out there for them to replace the Vest with?
May 12th 2011
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that's the funny part
May 12th 2011
680
      clearly you're happy about it.
May 12th 2011
681
      ummmmmmm no....i would be very dissapointed
May 12th 2011
687
      so are you now conceeding that Vest will be gone?
May 12th 2011
683
           PS cheating is okay as long as your offense is boring
May 12th 2011
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           PS cheating is ok as long your program goes irrelevant in the process
May 12th 2011
689
                u lost me here....
May 12th 2011
690
                     michigan is on probation, right?
May 13th 2011
696
           no, i think he stays
May 12th 2011
685
May 12th 2011
677
nice piece
May 12th 2011
678
Wow.
May 12th 2011
688
nebraska and wisconsin both night games....LETS DO THIS SON!!!!
May 12th 2011
679
For who?
May 12th 2011
682
      for OSU fans, people that like watching big 10 football, etc.
May 12th 2011
686
           practice squad osu vs. Nebraska is gonna be great
May 12th 2011
691
                first week back for the Tat 5
May 12th 2011
692
                Now THAT game is gonna be BANANAS<<<(thanks Gwen Stefani)
May 12th 2011
693
                reminds me of the late '80's, early '90's
May 13th 2011
694
                gameday isn't at ou-texas THAT often
May 13th 2011
695
                im sure tv ratings okp ratings will be terrible
May 13th 2011
697
RE: Tressel E-Mails Released -- his career could be over (link)
May 15th 2011
698
RE: Tressel E-Mails Released -- his career could be over (link)
May 15th 2011
699
      wild hunnids
May 15th 2011
700
that school is makin the vest pay his own legal fees
May 19th 2011
701
Buca di Beppo makes him pay for meals now too.
May 19th 2011
702
word on the street is more big, bad news is about to drop
May 24th 2011
703
Snitches Man, Snitches (ESPN link)
May 26th 2011
704
"Rap snitches, tellin all they business" - Metal Fingers
May 26th 2011
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lol, as if ray small's knucklehead status hadnt already been certified
May 26th 2011
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      Sure Small isn't the best source but it certainly can't help
May 26th 2011
715
           its just more negative PR...which has already reached its apex
May 26th 2011
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3558
May 26th 2011
706
^^^ Just wedged in, like, 4 different agendas into 1 post
May 26th 2011
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http://www.gifsoup.com/view/85512/epic-godzilla-fight-o.gif
May 26th 2011
708
does anybody still think Vest will coach another game for the Buckeyes?
May 26th 2011
709
i'm hopin he doesn't suspend me!
May 26th 2011
710
haha, that presser looks funnier every day
May 26th 2011
711
      hmm...that might draw an aside in my forthcoming
May 26th 2011
712
yep
May 26th 2011
713
      He's Gone(c)Jerry Garcia/Robert Hunter
May 26th 2011
717
      RE: He's Gone(c)Jerry Garcia/Robert Hunter
May 26th 2011
718
           a respectable university would have canned his ass already, just off
May 26th 2011
719
                u know nothing, lol
May 26th 2011
720
                     RE: u know nothing, lol
May 26th 2011
721
                     you can keep the ten spot, this wasn't even a fair fight
May 30th 2011
726
      http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c90/bgbill/ostrich-burying-head.jpg
May 27th 2011
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      LULZ PART 2
May 30th 2011
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http://i53.tinypic.com/spkt4g.jpg
May 30th 2011
725

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1. ""Have A Blessed Easter" "
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nm

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3. "i think it's a wrap for old sweatervest"
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which is sad and surreal considering the juxtaposition of his epic accomplishments and the minuteness of the crime he lied to cover-up.

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6. "fuck"
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4. "He's done. He's got to be."
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5. "i came up with that shit after 5 min of reading the emails"
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what will the NCAA drudge up after months of investigation? dude should have pulled a sneaky pete and retired to be an assistant in the nfl somewhere.

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7. "lol @ you so desperate and reaching"
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this will turn out to be just as silly as the forcier > pryor thread.
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8. "I like you, but you're in denial man."
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He messed up. Bad. Pretty similar to Bruce Pearl...this might even be worse.

  

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9. "If it was that bad, I think we would have fired him or forced his resig ..."
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these are self reported violations, and the NCAA was involved throughout the entire ordeal.

I'll be shocked if he's not our coach this fall.

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11. "depends on how long the investigation takes"
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but he fucked up. big time.

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54. "no, it's that bad, but you're an SEC school"
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just win, baby.

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10. "dude... snap out of it"
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he knew about the blatant violations in the first email. all he knew was the feds raided it. no mention of an "investigation." then he replied that he would "get on it." the request for confidentiality (which is bogus in itself, but still the excuse he is clinging to) didn't come until the subsequent e-mail, weeks later.

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723. "LULZ"
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<-- BAUGH SO HARD

  

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12. "I wanna post in this bullet point style."
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-its fuckin awesome.
-I like it a lot.

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13. "i see OSU fans are on that "deny deny deny" gameplan"
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its aight, i was too when the shit about Marvin Austin broke out.

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14. "nobody's denied anything"
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it's just going to take a woody-esque meltdown for JT to get fired.

  

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15. "one more possible devastating detail:"
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when Tressel asks for more names so he can have some "collateral" you Buckeye fans better PRAY he wasn't referring to something to coax/intimidate players into returning for another season.

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16. "you planning on going to bed tonight? lol"
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seriously how many consecutive hours have you been staring at your computer screen over this, refreshing your browser, conjuring up possibilities?

  

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17. "believe me, it's a pleasant distraction from my real work."
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getting lots of lulz from watching that OSU ship burn.

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21. "lol its sad."
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>seriously how many consecutive hours have you been staring at
>your computer screen over this, refreshing your browser,
>conjuring up possibilities?


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18. "lol @ yahoo sports being the ones to expose this, that's rich"
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19. "I guess their USC reporting was not credible?"
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65. "quite the opposite"
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73. "I still don't get it"
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Are you saying that until the USC story that they weren't looked at as a credible source? Because that's pretty much a given.

I don't understand why it's "rich" that they broke this story...

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87. "you might not but the OSU contingent gets why that's funny/ironic to me"
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it's a bit of a 'chickens coming home to roost'/'glass houses' situation.

  

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89. "Gotcha nm"
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20. "Violations were self reported and the investigaton was already underway"
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Yahoo didnt break anything.


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34. "Yahoo broke the story!"
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they were on this shit Monday, before ANYBODY at Ohio State acknowledged Tressel had done wrong. lmao @ you and all the Buckeye fans laughing off their initial report based on weak anonymous sources.

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37. "There was an internal leak, and thats how Yahoo found out."
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>they were on this shit Monday, before ANYBODY at Ohio State
>acknowledged Tressel had done wrong. lmao @ you and all the
>Buckeye fans laughing off their initial report based on weak
>anonymous sources.

We informed the NCAA of this shit (Tress and the emails) in December, no one knew until someone either in the athletic department leaked it to Yahoo, or the anonymous emailer contacted Yahoo. All of this was discussed in yesterdays presser.


It wasn't like Yahoo unearthed some major shit and triggered the investigation. It was already underway. They were the first to report it.






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51. "yes, they were the first to report it -- THEY BROKE THE STORY"
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lol, I know yall are feeling vulnerable and shit, but don't be this obtuse

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52. "you and others are acting like Yahoo started this investigation"
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>lol, I know yall are feeling vulnerable and shit, but don't
>be this obtuse


it was already underway before Yahoo got their tip, and it was going to be unearthed eventually whether through Yahoo or the University.

its not the same as the USC situation.

not sure what you're not understanding here.

Vulnerable? no. Disappointed? A little.



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53. "they broke the story. they were the ones to expose this first."
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that's pretty much fact. just because they didn't intercept the e-mail after Tressel hit send doesn't mean they weren't the first major media outlet to break the story.

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66. "thank you"
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28. "whats funny is how they were considered uncredible during reggie gate"
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and now theyre considered a bastion of journalistic excellence

  

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36. "Outside of Bomb, who questioned Yahoo's credibility during "
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the Reggie Bushit?

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62. "That's the question I'm asking Bomb"
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Because if I recall correctly, the thorough reporting of that story put Yahoo! Sports on the map as a legit journalistic source

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64. "quite a few actually (mostly mainstream media types), the Bush"
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story was basically their coming out party for sports journalism.

But they have become a go-to for investigative stories since.

  

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67. "Outside of them and SI, no one even tries for serious investigative"
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sports journalism.

SI doesn't even do a whole lot anymore, but that shit with the agent from last year was seriously well done.

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69. "well, newspapers used to but we know how that is nowadays"
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I think the SF Chronicle BALCO was the last really big one for sports.

Also on SI, I thought their Armstrong 'exposé' from a couple months back was weak.

I mean I'm sure Armstrong was on roids but there wasn't really anything in that story that really told me anything.

  

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134. "beats me...i really dont know what point bomb is trying to make "
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-SC got their clocks cleaned by yahoo

-OSU fans laughed about it

-bomb says 'if its not on ESPN then its not news or legitimate' or something to that effect

-20 years later it became legitimate and SC finally gets their clock cleaned by the NCAA

what this all has to do with Yahoo then getting some shit on OSU that was going to come out anyway is beyond me.

at the end of the day I dont think this will develop to anywhere near the level of what SC received. but the NCAA seems to be somewhat erratic in delving out punishment so who knows.

  

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144. "sure you don't n/m"
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147. "great response to reinforce your non-point"
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151. "*smirks*"
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265. "I think that was my skeptical behavior @ Yahoo"
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shit had taken years already with Bush, I doubted it had any substance at that point

I think the last of the light bulbs for everyone turned on when Petey ditched them for Seattle

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22. "two game suspension is being reported. fuck the ncaa"
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someone on ATH made the good point that tressel has been the coach during 3 recent OSU scandals involving player payments
dudes shady as fuck

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30. "The two games/$250k is self-imposed...."
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No way the NCAA lets them get off that easy.

  

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31. "I'm guessing he gets 6 games."
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but whatever it is, I highly doubt it will be the death penalty/career ending type shit you all are clamoring for.


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63. "lol, who besides Brown Sugar is "clamoring" for "death penalty shit?""
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Really, fam?

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23. "lol."
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they should just Hamsterdam it at this point... NO ONE is clean.
well, maybe BYU.

but lol BYU lol.

  

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39. "LOL @ Hamsterdam college football"
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Rewatching S3 of The Wire again, I'm just picturing Carver standing on a corner shaking his head and looking on while tOSU practices around a bunch of fiends and shit.

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46. "oh shit, post 32 ..."
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same reference.

Challenger-

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174. "That's all I've been saying. Why try to pretend otherwise?"
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"Slaves got options...cowards aint got shit." --PS
"Once upon a time, little need existed for making the distinction between a nigga and a black—at least not in this country, the place where niggas were invented" -- Donnell A

  

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24. "And I don't want to hear anything about Big 10's academic standards"
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...idiots trading National Championship rings for fucking tattoos. Real smart.

  

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25. "Hey, we all know that O$U is really the $EC North..."
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Nothing we can do about it.. lol
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33. "RE: Hey, we all know that O$U is really the $EC North... <---- LMAO"
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27. "lol. academic standards?"
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im not sure ive heard anyone try to pass big 10 players off as future neurosurgeons

  

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38. "Jim Delaney does, and I've heard some fans do that"
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It's not that widespread on this board though.

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49. "Professor Baldy and the newest Big10 member (DeepAZ) do"
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78. "i always thought everyone understood i meant "except osu""
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and i'm only partly kidding.

what i've come to realize is that i need to revise my statements. i do believe there are two programs in the big ten--michigan and penn state--that remain committed to winning big with a level of integrity that escapes the uscs, auburns, alabamas, and ohio states of the world. it's an outdated and unrealistic worldview, but it's true.

richrod didn't do 1 percent of the stuff tressel apparently gets away with.

ohio state spends almost double the money on its football program than penn state does.

outside of those two schools and northwestern, however, i have no reason to think that schools like iowa and michigan state possess any special integrity. i probably haven't passed judgement on the incidents at those two schools enough because i'm secure enough with what penn state does and, well, ignoring it can make the problem go away.

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135. "with the exception of maybe northwestern"
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the academic requirements are the same at every big 10 school

pass the NCAA clearinghouse and youre in

your holier than thou shit is funny given PSU's smattering of arrests over the past few years

and money? LOFL. we kick your ass all over the field because you have a 110 year old figurehead for a coach. fix that before worrying about your athletic budget.

  

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154. "lol"
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lol

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528. "welp"
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http://www.victoriaadvocate.com/news/2011/mar/21/bc-ne-exchange-unl-recruiters/

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42. "lol"
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http://i.imgur.com/vPqCzVU.jpg

  

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26. "cats angrier over this then they are over goldman sachs nm"
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29. "yeah lets root for cam everybody!!"
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fucking white chicks! yeah!

  

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40. "and you're angrier over goldman sachs than Fannie and Freddie.."
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so what?
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41. "lol"
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238. "lolol"
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32. "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKrL8x13nig (R.I.P. Hamsterdam)"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKrL8x13nig

01:18 "He said the po-lice comin"

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35. "why is it always you though?"
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posting these "type" of OSU stories

it's always you......

I didn't see you breaking the story on Oklahoma, Auburn, or Lane Kiffin or any of that shit

it's always some jaded ex-girlfriend shit with OSU, no matter if it's Wendy Williams meets bleacher report credibility

it's a bad look

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43. "he's been in Ann Arbor for 10 years, and has seen one win over us"
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that's all it boils down to.
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72. "no, Tressell is the bad look here"
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>
>it's a bad look

  

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156. "I'm not saying it's not, but it is for scorned UM fans as well"
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with one thing on their mind

lol @ thinking the NCAA is going to after Tressel and OSU with an iron fist, they cowered in the face of purchased talent at Auburn

nobody knows, because there is no consistent pattern in anything they do

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166. "wrong."
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1) please link some more threads that I started about OSU improprieties... I didn't even start the tatgate post or re-up it

2) this is an epic scandal of our chief rival... of course I'm gonna be keeping up on it

3) this is a niche sports forum whose signature theme is a handful of people waging never ending homoerotic flame-wars about who the best point guard in the NBA is. so please.

damn u dumb.

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178. "no wonder it's "brown sugar" - puts the bitch out in the open"
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GORDON GEE, TELL ME HOW MY ASS TASTE" --Horned Frog (swipe)

http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=1660782&mesg_id=1660782&listing_type=search

Wetzel: Pryor an "embarrassment", "Wikileaks in shoulder pads" (swipe)

http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=1656922&mesg_id=1656922&listing_type=search

Pryor jealous of Denard and Cam, wishes he went to Michigan (swipe)

http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=1636140&mesg_id=1636140&listing_type=search

jealous, jaded ex-girlfriend posting, now there's another team in the conference that is going to beat your ass every year

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179. "lmao....ether."
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*predicts some lame ass response that will include him mentioning hes in law school, you being mad, and soem other stupid bullshit*




>GORDON GEE, TELL ME HOW MY ASS TASTE" --Horned Frog (swipe)
>
>http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=1660782&mesg_id=1660782&listing_type=search
>
>Wetzel: Pryor an "embarrassment", "Wikileaks in shoulder pads"
>(swipe)
>
>http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=1656922&mesg_id=1656922&listing_type=search
>
>Pryor jealous of Denard and Cam, wishes he went to Michigan
>(swipe)
>
>http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=1636140&mesg_id=1636140&listing_type=search
>
>jealous, jaded ex-girlfriend posting, now there's another team
>in the conference that is going to beat your ass every year


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187. "wow you are a dumb bitch."
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First link: hilarious shit, I would have posted regardless of the team.

The rest: all about Pryor. It's a known agenda of mine to hate on him. In fact I think you missed one... where I made a post of him being drafted as a TE.

I don't think you understand what OKS is. There's a dude who fellated OJ Mayo and made 5 different Derrick Rose hate posts per week here.

Thought you were a decent poster. Turns out you're just not that smart.

Nice try though. It's pretty entertaining thinking about you swinging from brown sugar's nuts, desperately entering my user name into the search query and combing through results for my posts.


>GORDON GEE, TELL ME HOW MY ASS TASTE" --Horned Frog (swipe)
>
>http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=1660782&mesg_id=1660782&listing_type=search
>
>Wetzel: Pryor an "embarrassment", "Wikileaks in shoulder pads"
>(swipe)
>
>http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=1656922&mesg_id=1656922&listing_type=search
>
>Pryor jealous of Denard and Cam, wishes he went to Michigan
>(swipe)
>
>http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=1636140&mesg_id=1636140&listing_type=search
>
>jealous, jaded ex-girlfriend posting, now there's another team
>in the conference that is going to beat your ass every year

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191. "it's telling that you apparently see all_stah as the proper posting stan..."
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>I don't think you understand what OKS is. There's a dude who
>fellated OJ Mayo and made 5 different Derrick Rose hate posts
>per week here.

i still blame hip-hop.

  

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192. "fatality gif goes here:"
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i don't have it, but someone needs to post it in reply. ouch.
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193. "lol....bs stays losing. just like his alma mater."
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212. "lmao you are the biggest bitch of all"
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fall back we don't need your testicle-suckling commentary after every perceived insult of me.

and up your reading comprehension game, because i'm pretty sure that was much more an underhanded insult to allstah than to me.

you clearly didn't get enough of this in your childhood: http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa5/chrisculbertson/reading-rainbow.gif

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214. "go study some more. and I'm still waiting on that report."
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make sure its double spaced, mla ...all that shit.

oh and pick me up some coffee while you're at it...light and sweet

thanks.
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220. "what's your job again?"
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you're indian, you went to OSU, and you have time to post on OKS all day, everyday.

IT support at a straggling Fortune 500 secondary branch?

Worse?

The amount I'd bill to you for the time it would take to make that coffee would eclipse your weekly pay stub.

Fall back.

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227. "lmao, so predictable."
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>you're indian, you went to OSU, and you have time to post on
>OKS all day, everyday.

zomg! exposed! you must be lurking all day, everyday for you to know that. what's worse?


>
>Worse?

Yes, I'm chained to a sewing machine all day stitching soccer balls and designer clothes.


>The amount I'd bill to you for the time it would take to make
>that coffee would eclipse your weekly pay stub.
>
>Fall back.u

you arent a lawyer. you're a lame ass 1L who's been in ann arbor for the last 8 years. and you'll probably be working as a clerk for Sam Bernstein when you graduate.

lol unlike your lame ass, I dont have to boast to a bunch of message board nobodies about my life. It's lame enough you created a screen name in hopes of getting some e-pussy. Do your parents not give you the attention/approval you so desperately crave? Cheer up little fella.





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brown sugar
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234. "you're bad at responding to insults"
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>you arent a lawyer. you're a lame ass 1L who's been in ann
>arbor for the last 8 years.

wrong. worked between undergrad and law school.


and you'll probably be working as
>a clerk for Sam Bernstein when you graduate.

lol wrong again. thankfully umich law isn't like toledo law school, the hotbed of legal talent used by your boy Tressel.

>
>lol unlike your lame ass, I dont have to boast to a bunch of
>message board nobodies about my life. It's lame enough you
>created a screen name in hopes of getting some e-pussy. Do
>your parents not give you the attention/approval you so
>desperately crave? Cheer up little fella.

e-pussy? on ok sports? wtf are you talking about?

i mean damn, at least come up with some coherent comebacks... slamming a top 10 law school and claiming i log onto okaysports for "e-pussy" just isn't a good look. this back and forth banter between us is getting a little stale anyways, though.

and we do share some indian pride, so i retract the IT comment; i'll stay in the sports lane when it comes to clowning you.

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235. "I DONT CARE."
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>wrong. worked between undergrad and law school.

I DONT CARE.

>and you'll probably be working as
>>a clerk for Sam Bernstein when you graduate.
>
>lol wrong again. thankfully umich law isn't like toledo law
>school, the hotbed of legal talent used by your boy Tressel.

I DONT CARE ABOUT LAWYERS. OR LAW SCHOOL RANKINGS.

>
>e-pussy? on ok sports? wtf are you talking about?

OKS isnt the only board you post on. so stop. What was the reasoning behind "brown sugar"...I'm really wondering now...die hard D'angelo fan? that's cool...I like D too (pause) but still....




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237. "lol YOU BROUGHT IT UP"
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Cmon u can't play the "I don't care" card after you brought up my school and my employment prospects.

Second: I'd say 90% if not more of my 3k posts are on this board.

Lastly: the mythos behind the legendary "brown sugar"... basically as a lanky Indian I couldn't ball at all in high school but as a joke I'd always jack up pull-up threes and shit on fast breaks. The one-in-a-thousand time I'd hit it, I'd shout out "brown sugar!" Used it on a whim when registering here.

Fun fact: I still haven't listened to the dangelo album by the same name

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322. "wow, you were better off not even responding"
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>Cmon u can't play the "I don't care" card after you brought
>up my school and my employment prospects.
>
>Second: I'd say 90% if not more of my 3k posts are on this
>board.
>
>Lastly: the mythos behind the legendary "brown sugar"...
>basically as a lanky Indian I couldn't ball at all in high
>school but as a joke I'd always jack up pull-up threes and
>shit on fast breaks. The one-in-a-thousand time I'd hit it,
>I'd shout out "brown sugar!" Used it on a whim when
>registering here.
>
>Fun fact: I still haven't listened to the dangelo album by the
>same name


I didnt think you could get any lamer...congrats.

now wheres that coffee @?



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brown sugar
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324. "i started hibachi"
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and the world would probably be better off if you weren't born sooooo

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brown sugar
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209. "its not just all stah"
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its bags, pimpmacula, SPM, all those agenda-driven dudes....

and i never called him the standard. just as a cited example. reading comprehension around here is suspect as shit.

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251. "just doing as told"
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please link some more threads that I started about OSU --brown sugar--

Why don't you take a sabbatical and not post about OSU until the football season commences?

It would help your cause, if not, you will be labeled a scorned vagina, and rightfully so.

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44. "who cares 20 year olds do dumb shit"
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Try having to defend a D1 player who couldn't get a college girl and resorted to jerking off on their porch.......

  

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45. "Spielman on Mike&Mike this morning...."
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"Tressel acted in a way that he felt was protecting his players"

"He made a poor choice, but with the right intentions"

"I wouldnt be surprised if last season is vacated..."


"He should have said 'my intentions were pure at the start, it got out of control and I screwed up'..and he should have added a few games and another 250k to his fine"








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61. "Holy shit, that's some serious homerism"
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47. "all i keep comparing this to is JT Jr. and Rayful Edmond"
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-drug dealer
-personal relationship with current athletes
-coach dealing with it by himself

except, of course, one coach was successful and actually did something and the other coach...well...he's jim tressel.

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48. "*kanye shrug*"
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Tressel pulled G moves with square execution. Vacated games don't mean anything, they didn't for UM basketball, they don't now for Alabama football and they won't for OSU. Its a hollow punishment, esp in football where the banners aren't the end-all be-all.

If you want to be mad at JT, be mad at him ostensibly holding this over his players heads and forcing them to play another year when he KNEW the deal the whole season.

All in all this is some "every campus" type shit that I refuse to get worked up about or see as anything groundbreaking. Niggas still smashed UM, that vacated victory still hurts...they'll still smash UM this fall, life will go on.

JT is from Youngstown, the land of quiet gangster, anyone thinking he was less dirty than the rest of his peers was and is a fucking clown. or far too myopic

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50. "This is the worst part of it to me"
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>If you want to be mad at JT, be mad at him ostensibly holding
>this over his players heads and forcing them to play another
>year when he KNEW the deal the whole season.

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55. "what was the reasoning again?"
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oh, to make sure the offending players didn't play in the Sugar Bowl and skip their punishment next season?

lol, that's rich. considering their head coach let them skip punishment the entire 2010 season because he didn't want to report them.

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58. "^ether"
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59. "see, he secretly got a commitment during the preseason"
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that they'd come back for 2011 to get punished. otherwise he'd never have played them. too much integrity.

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76. "meanwhile, another top flight PA recruit just chose TOSU over PSU."
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>that they'd come back for 2011 to get punished. otherwise
>he'd never have played them. too much integrity.

maybe you should try something different.
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79. "like paying the players and hooking them up with cars. "
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got it. we'll pass.

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81. "STOP IT"
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Don't act like your program is better because the dirty work has been getting handed off for years. Especially in that part of PA where folk on the team walk around fresh as fuck with nice ass cars but its State College so everyone is on that "what of it."

ALL PROGRAMS ARE DIRTY. DI football is full of hangers on, parasites, hook ups and so forth. It's the cost of freight. I know you're running the agenda game but if you think the slippage of PSU was just about Joe getting old and not about Joe getting old and not having someone play the game for him..you're insane.

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82. "Just say 'scoreboard' and K.I.M."
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101. "See, this is what you tOSU guys aren't getting."
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This shit is more than about "scoreboard K.I.M," or "Your program suxx," or "U post like a pussy bitch ZooTowN," or "PSU duedz is hating"

Your head football coach willfully lied about getting a tip and knowingly played players who were ineligible. Fuck the results of the 2010 season, or "but but but 9-1!!!!!!!!!!" or "ALL COLLEGE FOOTBALL IS DIRTY." This cat played dumb at worst, lied at best. Period. Bruce Pearl got ass raped by the NCAA for lying. Dez Bryant got shown the fucking door for lying. Other schools that are NOT in the B1G Ten are watching this shit closely.

Your fucking athletic department just thumbed its collective nose in the face of the NCAA with it's self-imposed days off-- er, "suspension" against Akron and Toledo. This ain't just Michigan heads "crying" that this is a farce, or gleefully laughing at Ohio State football (but you can bet your lame scarlet and gray that ass we are, considering the hell we caught for 20 extra fucking minutes of stretching).

You've got journalists in Ohio calling for Tressel to step down. You've got cats who write for the student newspaper calling for him to be fired. Downplay it with as much sarcasm and "scoreboard BITCH!!!" as you need to, but this isn't some "who cares everybody else iz jealous of us" bullshit that you guys are trying to get across on these boards.

And it appears that this story is rapidly becoming something that you, or anyone else here, can't continue to downplay by saying, "well, this isn't a big deal, everybody in college football is dirty too." Well, no shit, but guess what? It's Ohio State's turn in front of the NCAA Kangaroo Court of Justice™. Deal with it, and stop acting like this shit is about sour grapes and "u mad" and other people "hating" on your program.

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106. "you can't blame a horse for acting like a horse"
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and you can't blame ohio state fans for trying to yell and fight their way out of trouble. "intelligent discourse" and "ohio state" are oil and water.

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108. "Now see..."
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Goddamnit, shelly... lol...

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107. "Well said nm"
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109. "GET'EM"
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110. "He admitted to an error in judgement...*shrug*"
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>Your head football coach willfully lied about getting a tip
>and knowingly played players who were ineligible. Fuck the
>results of the 2010 season, or "but but but 9-1!!!!!!!!!!" or
>"ALL COLLEGE FOOTBALL IS DIRTY." This cat played dumb at
>worst, lied at best. Period. Bruce Pearl got ass raped by
>the NCAA for lying. Dez Bryant got shown the fucking door for
>lying. Other schools that are NOT in the B1G Ten are watching
>this shit closely.

K.


>Your fucking athletic department just thumbed its collective
>nose in the face of the NCAA with it's self-imposed days off--
>er, "suspension" against Akron and Toledo. This ain't just
>Michigan heads "crying" that this is a farce, or gleefully
>laughing at Ohio State football (but you can bet your lame
>scarlet and gray that ass we are, considering the hell we
>caught for 20 extra fucking minutes of stretching).

K.

>You've got journalists in Ohio calling for Tressel to step
>down. You've got cats who write for the student newspaper
>calling for him to be fired. Downplay it with as much sarcasm
>and "scoreboard BITCH!!!" as you need to, but this isn't some
>"who cares everybody else iz jealous of us" bullshit that you
>guys are trying to get across on these boards.


Journalists dont matter. People with aspirations of becoming journalists dont matter. I trust the judgement of our president and AD over joe schmo from the dispatch/plain dealer/lantern/etc etc.



>And it appears that this story is rapidly becoming something
>that you, or anyone else here, can't continue to downplay by
>saying, "well, this isn't a big deal, everybody in college
>football is dirty too." Well, no shit, but guess what? It's
>Ohio State's turn in front of the NCAA Kangaroo Court of
>Justice™. Deal with it, and stop acting like this shit is
>about sour grapes and "u mad" and other people "hating" on
>your program.


The B10/NCAA tournament is around the corner, we're the number 1 seed and a favorite to win it all. There's other shit to worry about. It's out of our hands, and in the NCAAs. Jim Tressel isnt getting fired (much to OKS dismay). We're not going down in flames and we'll still run this conference.
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113. "*hangs head*"
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>The B10/NCAA tournament is around the corner, we're the number
>1 seed and a favorite to win it all. There's other shit to
>worry about. It's out of our hands, and in the NCAAs. Jim
>Tressel isnt getting fired (much to OKS dismay). We're not
>going down in flames and we'll still run this conference.

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119. "But you are wrong and have this backwards"
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>Journalists dont matter. People with aspirations of becoming
>journalists dont matter. I trust the judgement of our
>president and AD over joe schmo from the dispatch/plain
>dealer/lantern/etc etc.

journalist do matter because they aren't, you know BIAS. Journalist are supposed to be neutral, objective and open minded.

Don't you think the judgment of your president and AD are bit more one-sided due to their employment to the university? Of couse the AD and president are going to try to downplay this whole thing, it is in their BEST INTEREST to do so.

This is like pro Gaddafi supporters/loyalist saying, "well I am going to believe the word of Gaddafi over international journalist about possible human rights violations because he is the leader of Libya and really knows what is happening in his country."

  

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121. "Lol, no."
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>journalist do matter because they aren't, you know BIAS.
>Journalist are supposed to be neutral, objective and open
>minded.

Journalists don't matter in regards to choosing what coaches should be hired and fired. Which is what Zootown referred to.

>Don't you think the judgment of your president and AD are bit
>more one-sided due to their employment to the university? Of
>couse the AD and president are going to try to downplay this
>whole thing, it is in their BEST INTEREST to do so.

Exactly, to the University. Not to Jim Tressel. If they deemed that what he did was a fireable offense, they would have fired him IMO. No one down played anything. They treated it like a major violation once they were aware, they informed the NCAA and proceeded. Jim Tressel tried to cover it up, and he'll pay the consequences (along with TOSU to an extent, unfortunately).


>This is like pro Gaddafi supporters/loyalist saying, "well I
>am going to believe the word of Gaddafi over international
>journalist about possible human rights violations because he
>is the leader of Libya and really knows what is happening in
>his country."


analogy fail.
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126. "RE: Lol, no."
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>Exactly, to the University. Not to Jim Tressel. If they deemed
>that what he did was a fireable offense, they would have fired
>him IMO. No one down played anything. They treated it like a
>major violation once they were aware, they informed the NCAA
>and proceeded. Jim Tressel tried to cover it up, and he'll pay
>the consequences (along with TOSU to an extent,
>unfortunately).

They down played it. When asked if Gee would fire Tressel, Gee said "No. Are you kidding me? I just hope the coach doesn't dismiss me." What kind of BS is that? That was Gee's attempt to down play the situation. Jim Tressel is part of the University, he is a very notable figure and face of the university, thus it is in their best interest to protect him. Especially since they have decided to retain him as their HC.

I agree that journalist aren't the ones who decide whether Tressel is fired or not but it is their job to at least ask the question. It is their job to discuss and debate whether the punishment fits the crime. Nothing wrong with that.

I am sorry but IMO a major violation calls for more than a 2 game suspension and 250K fine. As mentioned by Will, look what happened to Pearl when he was caught lying.

  

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131. "How did they downplay it? They treated it as a major violation"
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and had informed the NCAA as soon as they heard about it in early January, and had NCAA investigators involved in every step of the way...just like how they did when the Maurice Clarett allegations were brought up.


>They down played it. When asked if Gee would fire Tressel, Gee
>said "No. Are you kidding me? I just hope the coach doesn't
>dismiss me." What kind of BS is that?


Agreed. I love Dr. Gee but sometimes he needs to quit with the comedian act. That wasnt a good look.


That was Gee's attempt
>to down play the situation. Jim Tressel is part of the
>University, he is a very notable figure and face of the
>university, thus it is in their best interest to protect him.
>Especially since they have decided to retain him as their HC.


>I am sorry but IMO a major violation calls for more than a 2
>game suspension and 250K fine. As mentioned by Will, look what
>happened to Pearl when he was caught lying.


Agreed, but thats now how these self reported sanctions go. You lowball the NCAA, they come back with something higher, and then you lowball them again and hope you win on the appeal. I'm bracing myself for a season long suspension.


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133. "That Gee quote is not a good look at all"
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it makes it look like Tressel is running the show and Gee is just along for the bow ties.

I think it is great that OSU reported this as soon as they found out. My complaint is the punishment doesn't seem to fit the crime, at least IMO. I do agree with you that this is how these punishments work, low ball it and wait for the NCAA to come back with their punishment.

  

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136. "you really think journalists are free from bias? seriously?"
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>journalist do matter because they aren't, you know BIAS.

their job is to drum up readership. nothing sells better than OSU. between the rabid fanbase and the rabid anti-OSU fanbase...it's a guaranteed sell.

and no they dont matter. journalists hold as much relevance as fans do. the degree of yapping in the press isnt gonna get JT fired or influence the NCAA's ruling.

  

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123. ""
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>I trust the judgement of our
>president and AD over joe schmo from the dispatch/plain
>dealer/lantern/etc etc.

  

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112. "Hit the nail on the head "
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For me, this isn't about OSU as much as it is about the NCAA and how "fair" they are when handing down punishments.

That is all I really care about. This could be Texas, Florida, Auburn, or even Cal for all I care. I for one and probably every schools in D1 want to see what the NCAA does in this situation.

  

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130. "What is it about? Set the goalposts."
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Tressel looked out for him and his season and he'll get nailed on this. Depending on how the NCAA is feeling he'll get nothing or an extra game. He isn't a repeat offender ON THIS LEVEL(before someone says 375) like Pearl so he won't get fired with the show cause.

It can't be about the action, because I think we've all come to the point where we recognize this is widespread and common.

And as for vacating the season...who cares?

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138. "speaking of the school newspaper article: Give Tressel the boot"
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Give Tressel the boot
By Grant Freking

freking.4@osu.edu

Published: Tuesday, March 8, 2011
Updated: Wednesday, March 9, 2011 10:03

http://www.thelantern.com/sports/give-tressel-the-boot-1.2083500

The NCAA shouldn't suspend Jim Tressel for more than two games. It shouldn't fine him more than $250,000 dollars. It shouldn't bar him from spring practice and summer workouts.

After it finishes its investigation, the NCAA should recommend Jim Tressel's termination as head football coach at The Ohio State University.

This incident is further proof that college athletics is spinning out of control, and a message needs to be sent to university presidents and athletic directors who let rule-breaking coaches keep their jobs because they win games and sell tickets.

And that's exactly why Tressel, who said he never considered resigning, didn't tell the athletic department that he had received an e-mail from an attorney indicating OSU football players were selling memorabilia to Edward Rife. Rife, the owner of Fine Line Ink tattoo parlor, is one of the focal points of a federal drug investigation.
Tressel's contract states that he is bound to report any possible violation immediately.

He didn't.

When Regular Joe with a normal job breaches his contract, he gets the boot.

So should The Vest.

"I am sorry and disappointed this happened," Tressel said. "At the time the situation occurred, I thought I was doing the right thing."
Doing the right thing? Surely a deeply religious man with a newly released book titled "Life Promises for Success: Promises from God on Achieving Your Best" knows the difference between right and wrong.

Or does he?

Maurice Clarett and Troy Smith, the highest-profile players of the Tressel era other than current Buckeye quarterback Terrelle Pryor, were both suspended for accepting improper benefits. Tressel also had a player do the same thing at Youngstown State.

It's clear that Tressel, also author of "The Winner's Manual," wants to win at all cost. The mantra is shared by athletic director Gene Smith and university President E. Gordon Gee, who make up the university's "Big Three."

When asked whether he considered firing Tressel, Gee gave a clear indication of who actually runs the university.

"No, are you kidding?" Gee said with a laugh. "Let me be very clear: I'm just hoping the coach doesn't dismiss me."

I rest my case.

At this point OSU has given Tressel a slap on the wrist. The NCAA should break his arm.
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142. "uh oh....GRANT MUTHERFUCKING FREKING"
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181. "YOU => http://i9.tinypic.com/6jdabu9.jpg"
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95. "lol. find me pictures or police reports and we'll talk"
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sorry, but there are just things ohio state does gleefully that penn state won't.

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99. "You're being intentionally stupid"
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Remember when PSU stopped getting shit on by everyone? The resurgence of competitiveness? When you got some nuts about you on this college football shit?

It coincided with this;

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/otl/news/story?id=3504915

There were these incidents;

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/36535-from-penn-state-to-state-penn-penn-states-nine-best-ever-arrests

This is off a basic google search. Also, again...it's state college, the infractions that go on in major cities that might get some light can chill in that area because of the closed town atmosphere. If someone snitched on the local tattoo joint, that person would be ostracized.

In short, come the fuck on, we both know you're smarter than this and having this discussion about this flawed system serves no good.

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103. "DUIs, fights, and weed do not equal free cars and 3 Gs cash"
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that's normal college kid shit. you never heard me say shit about that anywhere. you'd love to be able to compare apples to oranges, but it won't fly. raising hell is one thing, and i think there's a limit to what programs can do to control that. pay-for-play schemes are the easiest things in the world to spot and sniff out. Yahoo does it with a twelve person staff. if that shit happens at the level it does at ohio state, it's because the program wants it to happen.

hell, after the initial bout of glee, i even defended the Ohio State players pre Sugar Bowl. you should be able to sell your shit. but the AJ Hawk shit, the free cars, and all the rest of that is endemic of a pay for play system. i will agree that this exists at most BCS schools. it may even exist at Penn State and Michigan, but the series of violations y'all have wracked up shows that you do it far more and to a far greater extent than not just those two schools but most of em.

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111. "RE: DUIs, fights, and weed do not equal free cars and 3 Gs cash"
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DUI's fights and weed are more socially acceptable than side compensation for being an elite member of a small group? Ok, so you aren't playing stupid you just have an interesting moral compass.

You're right that there's a pay for play system for some student-athletes. You're wrong in acting as if your campus is free of it or that it's really wrong on a micro level. (There are issues with competitive balance and corruption on a larger level)

Also, yes, I never claimed OSU didn't do it big, there's a reason why the program is in the top 5-10 every year. The amount you're willing to look past to keep 5* recruits flowing is fairly commiserate with the success of your program. JT just needed some classes on email etiquette and technology. Think Saban, Meyer, or even Kiffin is getting caught on the email? NOPE

What happens at OSU happens at every school you watched play From January 1 on. I mean, if you're mad that your school is wack in football, get on our level and get better boosters.

I'll take BCS games and illegal cash flow over 8 wins and stupid weedcarriers and social rabble rousing 10 times out of 10

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114. "one is something all students do everywhere, one isn't"
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>DUI's fights and weed are more socially acceptable than side
>compensation for being an elite member of a small group? Ok,
>so you aren't playing stupid you just have an interesting
>moral compass.

I'll take "trying to get on a high horse and falling flat" for 100, Alex.


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118. "God ya'll are the most sadsack miserable old motherfuckers "
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Go get paid for something you do exceptionally. Try that instead of rooting for a wack pimpish system that keeps kids broke and acting like there's ANY purity in this big football shit.

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120. "oh, i'm not mad, especially not at the players"
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the players should absolutely get what they can. the whole system sucks...but tressel is an agent of that system. it's his responsibility to make sure the rules are followed. some school ignore the system in pursuit of winning more than others. OHNO is clearly one of those places.

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125. "RE: oh, i'm not mad, especially not at the players"
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>the players should absolutely get what they can. the whole
>system sucks...but tressel is an agent of that system. it's
>his responsibility to make sure the rules are followed. some
>school ignore the system in pursuit of winning more than
>others. OHNO is clearly one of those places.

Ok and after 50-11 replies we're going to end up standing in the same wide circle? ... I h8 you now.

Tress is a snake for the way he held this over the kids heads, especially given that it's logical thought to assume he may have been doing it before it came all the way to light in the public.

Speaking to the letter of the law, you're correct in his duties too, I tend to err on the side of ignoring those rules because of how inconsistently they're applied and enforced though.

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122. "This isn't about the kids, as much as it is about the coach!"
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See I can forgive the kids because as you said, most of them are broke and the whole system is profiting off them. Plus, throw in the fact that they are kids and kids don't make the best decisions.

However, this is the coach, who is supposed to know better who fucked up. This was a veteran coach, who is well respected because of his "morals" who fucked up. This is a coach who knows how the NCAA works and has dealt with NCAA violations in the past who fucked up.

This is a grown man who lied about knowing any of this in December and tried to blame this whole mess on the kids. He basically threw these kids under the bus for his own reputation and professional gain.

  

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124. "i'm not defending the rules re: the players"
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get that cash, kid.

Jim Tressel, on the other hand, lies to protect his chances of winning. OSU, on the other hand, turned a blind eye towards cheating.

Jim Tressel and OSU have no moral defense of their actions and their lies.

and you're deflecting back to the kids because you KNOW the coach was wrong.
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127. "Reply 48"
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"If you want to be mad at JT, be mad at him ostensibly holding this over his players heads and forcing them to play another year when he KNEW the deal the whole season."

Who's getting blamed for what?

Tress= a snake in a way many of his peers are and especially wrong for how it seems he used the kids.
kids=rulebreakers but morally I find no fault in their actions and hate that they're hemmed up
Fans=inconsistent, mad at the wrong things, idiotically running to the rulebook in a system where the majority of the successful wipe their ass with said rules

You caught up now? IF you're still thinking that I'm deflecting go check the archives where I go at it with OSU fans for how JT treats his players he deems he doesn't need anymore. Like the Ray Small/Rob Rose types.

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129. "Tressel is DIRTIER than others, that's what we now know"
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either that or he is demonstrably DUMBER than others, because he's the only one we know that has basically blackmailed players.

so you either support a uniquely DIRTY coach or you support a uniquely STUPID coach. either way, he's an embarrassment to a program, right today.

edit: also, if things are wrong on a macro level, then they are wrong on the micro level. that's why they're not allowed at a micro level. else you're devolving into anarchy. There are lots of things I could do that are harmless that are not acceptable because at the macro level, it's a problem. the "no harm, no foul" logic just doesn't really work.

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132. "Read up on oversigning "
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Or take a look at Bruce Feldman's book on recruiting and how Meyer handled his when he was building UF. Then talk about someone being uniquely dirty. He doesn't stand out.

Now sending emails? whooo that's a big hustle backwards. Someone had to let him know about this so he was either slipping or in desperate need of training. (I said that above too)

In any case..I'm not a JT fan, I'm not really an OSU fan either I just live here. I'm just not a fan of shortsighted moralizers.

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141. "oversigning, while excruciatingly dirty, is not the same"
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because, to my knowledge, there isn't an EXPLICIT RULE about it. in fact, there are loopholes.

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186. "Ok, go get at the 3rd string DE who needed his schollie and got cut"
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Tell him his situation is cool because of a loophole.

That's obviously not as egregious morally as looking the other way in an attempt to hustle a BCS game. I swear you better not smoke weed, jaywalk, lie on taxes, none of it. Ole letter of the law-ass motherfucker

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195. "so when you're done arguing with someone who isn't here"
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and instead converse with me, that'd be great.

i called it excruciatingly dirty but not the same.

not the same does not mean "it's fine." or "i'm cool with it." or even "i'll defend it." just: IT ISN'T TECHNICALLY, BLATANTLY NOT ALLOWED.

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137. "LMAO...we damn sure couldve used ray small...duron carter too"
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> go check the archives where I go at it with OSU
>fans for how JT treats his players he deems he doesn't need
>anymore. Like the Ray Small/Rob Rose types.

as far as i can recall, u were even willing to admit that small was just an out and out knucklehead

  

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139. "I said who he thinks he doesnt need"
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His decision isn't bond.

And Ray is silly and definitely the product of insufficient daddying but if that "family" shit that Tress spit was equally applied the Ray would have developed. He wasn't bad, he just showed up on some Namond Brice shit. No grown man at all. And they let him be stupid without real consequence till they found another slot and returner they felt good about.

Trust me, theres plenty of fault on the Smalls and Tress.

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145. "well i would say we needed him"
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dude had about a billion chances and a world of talent. hes not a bad guy but hes a certifiable knucklehead.

i think it takes a whole lot of dumbfuckery to not be able to play at OSU.

  

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105. "lol, i just saw that one of the evil nine was prank phone calls"
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yup, same thing as free tats.

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115. "RE: lol, i just saw that one of the evil nine was prank phone calls"
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...Who prank phone calls? Really? Acting like a Jerky Boy post-97 vs. free tats=harmless on both sides. Except one carries criminal charges and one is a HOOK-UP. WHO HATES THE HOOK-UP? Communists? People with no marketable skill?

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77. "LMAO"
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>JT is from Youngstown, the land of quiet gangster, anyone
>thinking he was less dirty than the rest of his peers was and
>is a fucking clown. or far too myopic

the only reason that it's a "control city" on road signs still...
that place is The Mob.

  

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148. "From Berea actually."
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but Youngstown grew him..had him skippin rules..the Strollo family showed him the shit was cool...(c) Hov

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60. "its a lot of tea partiers in Ohio trippin right now "
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266. "I heard he quoted Bush in his press conference?!! lmao"
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68. "holy shit mgoblog just went in go now go to this link"
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http://mgoblog.com/content/somewhat-complete-accounting-recent-ohio-state-funny-business

or the record. Let me know if I've missed anything. Right now it's just on the edge of plausibility that incidents are "isolated," reported solely by lint-brush-wielding madmen.
2003

That's a nice car/job/wad of money. Maurice Clarett sits out the season after claiming his expensive dealership car was robbed of over 10k in stuff. Questioned by the NCAA, Clarett refuses to give straight answers to questions 17 times because "half the team would've been suspended, and it would've been worse for everybody."

Clarett also claims his grades were total fiction, he got phantom jobs, that coaches would tell him to talk to certain people who just happened to drop thousands of dollars they didn't care about, that he got free cars and free rent. Ohio State fans discount Clarett as mentally unstable, which he is.

That's a nice tutor. Clarett's grad student tutor confirms the total fiction grades bit of Clarett's story to the New York Times. The internal response was lovely: "Goings attacked the teaching assistant's credibility, saying he found it difficult to believe her because she had a history of psychiatric problems and displayed what he called erratic behavior." Goings calls the tutor a liar and fires her after she meets with him about another player.
2004

That's a nice job. Booster Robert Q Baker gives Troy Smith $500 for a fake job, getting Smith suspended a couple games and himself dissociated from the program. A couple years earlier Chris Gamble also worked for Baker's company.
2005

AJ Hawk is a depression-era farmer. The apartment of AJ Hawk and Nick Mangold is robbed. Items declared missing include $1400 worth of movies, a $500 Gucci watch, and $3000 in cash, presumably kept under the bed and away from those fat cats at National City.
2010

Tatgate. Five Ohio State players are found to have sold memorabilia in exchange for tattoos. Jim Tressel is given a credible tip about it in April and does nothing.

That's a nice car II. Terrelle Pryor has been pulled over for traffic violations three times in his Ohio State career. All three times he was in a car registered to Auto Direct, a local dealership. The guy running the dealership is named "Kniffin"—not a good sign. He also has signed OSU memorabilia all over his walls.
Ongoing

You can't throw a rock on eBay without hitting an auction for the gold pants charms handed out after Michigan victories from as recently as 2009—which means there's a fair chance the players in question are still on the team.

Between January 1st, 2000, and May 2009 Ohio State reported 375 secondary violations, most of any D-I school.

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70. "375?!??!?"
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38 PER YEAR?

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74. "LOL @ this one"
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>AJ Hawk is a depression-era farmer. The apartment of AJ Hawk
>and Nick Mangold is robbed. Items declared missing include
>$1400 worth of movies, a $500 Gucci watch, and $3000 in cash,
>presumably kept under the bed and away from those fat cats at
>National City.

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80. "He added another one, under the AJ Hawk one"
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Santonio Holmes is taken care of.

Former NFL agent Josh Luchs outed dozens of players in the SI cover story that served as promotion from his upcoming book, but he'd long stopped paying when he visited Santonio Holmes in '05:

"We met (Holmes) outside the football building," Luchs wrote, "and he said, 'Listen, I want to save you the time. We don't need to meet. I've been taking money from (an agent) the last couple years, and he's been taking care of my family too.'"

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LegacyNS
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83. "god damn @ 375.... come on son!"
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176. "I still think selling your own ish shouldn't be illegal."
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As long as it's sold for market value.

"Slaves got options...cowards aint got shit." --PS
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315. "but it just creates another thing they have to police"
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and what's "fair market value" for athletic memorabilia? you could argue any price is fair.

i agree players should be able to sell their own stuff, but it opens up so many potential loop holes for shady shit...i see why it's deemed illegal.

  

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325. "true. maybe putting a cap on how much a player"
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can earn before graduation. with any extra amount going to charities.

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71. "ayo, Bomb, did these osu fools go in on you over reggiegate?"
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i just want to see if they've used the integrity defense in the past, just because it makes all of this even more funny.

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75. "oh I'm gonna be laughing at this mainly for that reason"
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84. "Jim Tressel and the NCAA: A timeline"
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Jim Tressel and the NCAA: A timeline
Published: Tuesday, March 08, 2011, 10:14 PM
Updated: Tuesday, March 08, 2011, 10:33 PM

http://www.cleveland.com/osu/index.ssf/2011/03/jim_tressel_and_the_ncaa_a_tim.html

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Reviewing the Ohio State coach's brushes with the NCAA rulebook:

At Youngstown State

Feb. 16, 2000: YSU self-imposes sanctions, which the NCAA approves, on Tressel's football program after a two-year investigation finds improper payments to a football player by a member of the school's board of trustees. As part of the sanctions, YSU vacated six scholarships over a three-year period and reduced its number of paid recruiting visits. Michael Monus, former YSU board chairman, was found to have provided nearly $10,000 and the use of automobiles to Ray Isaac, who was in the program from 1988 to '92. Monus and Isaac were banned from any participation in YSU athletics. The university's report to the NCAA said no one else at the university had any knowledge at the time of the Monus and Isaac arrangement.

At Ohio State

July 12, 2003: The New York Times quotes a teaching assistant at Ohio State as saying running back Maurice Clarett received "preferential treatment." She says he walked out of a midterm exam but ended up passing the class after the professor gave him an oral exam.

July 29, 2003: Ohio State confirms the NCAA is investigating Clarett's claim that more than $10,000 in clothing, CDs, cash and stereo equipment was stolen in April from a 2001 Chevrolet Monte Carlo that Clarett had borrowed from a local dealership.

Sept. 9, 2003: Clarett charged with misdemeanor falsification on the police report on the theft. The charge carries a penalty ranging from probation to six months in jail and $1,000 fine.

Sept. 10, 2003: Then-athletic director Andy Geiger announces Clarett is suspended for the season. Geiger said Clarett received special benefits worth thousands of dollars from a family friend and repeatedly misled investigators.

Dec. 17, 2003: Ohio State says a university committee finds no evidence to support allegations of academic misconduct by athletes, including Clarett.

Dec. 20, 2004: Troy Smith suspended for 2004 Alamo Bowl, and eventually for 2005 season opener, for accepting about $500 from a booster.

Dec. 28, 2004: Ohio State announces it will sanction a booster who gave money to quarterback Troy Smith.

Early 2009: Between the end of the 2008-09 season and early in the 2009-10 season, players Terrelle Pryor, Dan Herron, DeVier Posey, Mike Adams and Solomon Thomas sell memorabilia for a total of $7,050 to the owner of a Columbus tattoo parlor. The merchandise includes 2008 Big Ten championship rings, Herron's jersey, the gold pants charm Pryor received for beating Michigan and Pryor's 2009 Fiesta Bowl Sportsmanship Award. Herron, Posey, Thomas and linebacker Jordan Whiting also receive discounted tattoos.

November 2009: The Ohio State compliance office goes into more detail about players not being allowed to resell items such as championship rings and jerseys given to them by the school. The players realize they have violated an NCAA rule with their previous sale, but stay silent.

April 2010: Tressel receives e-mails saying some of his players broke NCAA rules by selling memorabilia but keeps the information to himself.

Dec. 7, 2010: U.S. Attorney's office discovers Ohio State memorabilia in a raid on the tattoo parlor and home of the owner.

Dec. 8, 2010: Attorney's office informs the Ohio State Athletic Department of the discovery.

Dec. 9-15, 2010: Ohio State starts what Athletic Director Gene Smith called "investigation planning."

Dec. 16, 2010: Ohio State interviews the players involved.

Dec. 17, 2010: Ohio State tells the NCAA and Big Ten that it plans to self-report violations.

Dec. 19, 2010: Ohio State submits the report.

Dec. 21, 2010: NCAA conducts phone interviews with the players involved; the Buckeyes practice for the last time before breaking for Christmas.

Dec. 22, 2010: NCAA makes its decision, ruling the five players ineligible for the first five games of 2011 and Whiting ineligible for the first game of 2011. All remain eligible for the Sugar Bowl.

Dec. 23, 2010: Ohio State calls the players and informs them of the ruling and holds a news conference.

Jan. 4, 2011: Ohio State wins the Sugar Bowl, 31-26, over Arkansas with a full roster.

Monday: An Yahoo Sports report says Tressel knew in April 2010 of possible NCAA violations involving players selling memorabilia to owner of a tattoo parlor.

Tuesday: Ohio State suspends Tressel for two games and fines him $250,000 for having knowledge in April about players who sold the merchandise and failing to notify the university. Tressel also must attend an NCAA compliance seminar. OSU became aware of this situation Jan. 13 and notified the NCAA on Feb. 3. The NCAA might accept or alter OSU's self-imposed penalties, according to AD Gene Smith.

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86. "If Tressel were a rookie or young coach I think people"
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would be willing to believe him a bit more. The fact is he has dealt with the NCAA in the past and as a veteran coach with his amount of experience in college coaching, he should know better than anyone how this works.

  

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92. "a rookie coach doesn't get this job, if ur at this level, u kno the deal"
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>would be willing to believe him a bit more. The fact is he
>has dealt with the NCAA in the past and as a veteran coach
>with his amount of experience in college coaching, he should
>know better than anyone how this works.

  

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96. "I didn't mean a first time HC"
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I meant a first time CFB HC, kind of like PC at USC or a guy who has NFL HC experience but no CFB HC experience.

Even then you are still right, no excuse for this kind of oversight.

  

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85. "This looks really bad but I doubt the NCAA imposes any more"
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penalties or sanctions against OSU, Jim Delaney will help protect OSU and Tressel.

I understand why OSU fans aren't that worried.

  

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88. "oh the NCAA *at least* has to hit The Vest harder than the school did"
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that's a given, they're slow to do anything but their hand is kinda forced here.

He knowingly witheld information that would have kept his best players out of games if not a full season, to have him sit out two games against D-1A schools & surrender 7% of his paycheck is not going to be enough when his own players are getting five games (conveniently not including last year's Bowl Game for those phony-asses in the NCAA who wanted to get their money but whatever).

  

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91. "No doubt that I agree that they should, I just doubt that they will"
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OSU athletics, the new Big 10, and Jim Delany have a lot of power and influence. In my opinion OSU deserves just as harsh a punishment as USC.

Plus, as you said, the NCAA is slow as hell. Would they implement a penalty before this season? I don't know but something tells me that if the NCAA investigation is still going on during this season and a penalty hasn't been imposed on OSU or Tressel, you could see Tressel "retire" after the 2011 season to escape any further punishment from the NCAA.

  

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93. "we shall see, I'm *very interested* to see how this gets handled"
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but even as cynical as I am regarding the whole sordid environment, I'm almost positive that the little self-imposed slap-on-the-wrist is not going to be the end of this.

  

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97. "Of course you and evey SC fan is or should be very interested"
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no way can the NCAA not punish Tressel/OSU more and then turn down your appeal with a straight face. If the NCAA upholds the SC punishment, they will have to go in harder on Tressel/OSU.

As others have been saying, Dez Bryant lost a whole fucking year for lying to the NCAA.

  

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100. "#98"
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94. "at least as hard as they hit Dez Bryant & the coach deserves a"
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harsher punishment than the players. Cmon O$U, the players got 5 games & sweater vest gets 2 games? Did they even think that through? - lol

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98. "Its gonna be *very interesting*(c)Tim Hardaway Knick/Heat brawl postgame"
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>harsher punishment than the players. Cmon O$U, the players
>got 5 games & sweater vest gets 2 games? Did they even think
>that through? - lol
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102. "Vacating last season will definitely be part of the punishment."
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but its not like we won a Rose Bowl or a championship...the streak vs Michigan would end tho..that kinda sucks.

I think Tress will be suspended for 6 to 8 games..

but we'll keep the schollies and wont face a post season ban...


but yea, this upcoming season just got a whole lot more intriguing.



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104. "Question, and I'm being totally serious here: what do YOU think the"
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punishment should be?

Granted, all of the facts haven't come out, but, assuming the worst, what do you think is a fair punishment for Tressel and the program?

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116. "Probation for 2 years, vacating last season and 6 games seems fair."
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but I wouldnt be surprised if the NCAA suspends him for the entire season.



>punishment should be?
>
>Granted, all of the facts haven't come out, but, assuming the
>worst, what do you think is a fair punishment for Tressel and
>the program?
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117. "this is actually about what I was thinking they get too"
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>but its not like we won a Rose Bowl or a championship...the
>streak vs Michigan would end tho..that kinda sucks.
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>I think Tress will be suspended for 6 to 8 games..
>
>but we'll keep the schollies and wont face a post season
>ban...
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which basically adds up to not much, based on recent past events this cover-up should cost them more than a few blights on a record book & a few extra games on the front-end of the season because the coach basically knowingly played ineligible players and lied about it but somehow I believe there won't be loss of scholarships or postseason games.

  

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128. "lol @ this "program""
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146. "lol O-LIE-O lol"
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140. "help me out with this"
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cause i havent sat here endlessly combing the interwebs for details on this situation so I may be behind and/or ignorant to certain aspects.

people here mentioning that JT held the 'pact' over the players as some form of blackmail to get them to stay another year...do i have this right?

what exactly was he holding over the players at this point in time? to what further extent could the players have been punished?

  

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143. "so u went with 'find a strawman' rather than discuss The Vest's cover up"
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interesting play.

  

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149. "that's a heck of a conspiracy theory"
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meanwhile my name isnt JT and my ass isnt on the line here. i dont know what the fuck I would be avoiding or what responsibility I have to'discuss' anything. lol.

this aint a chess game, i asked a legit question, if you dont feel like answering then KIM.



  

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150. "bwahahaa"
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152. "its a stupid reach on their part..nm"
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>people here mentioning that JT held the 'pact' over the
>players as some form of blackmail to get them to stay another
>year...


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153. "hell, maybe it isnt"
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id love for someone to explain it to me in a logical fashion

make me a believer

  

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155. "if they didn't agree they wouldn't be allowed to play in the bowl game"
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kinda doesn't make sense to me, maybe meaningless bowl games really DO mean something to some ppl iono
if i was willing to bounce for the draft i'd peace out bowl game or not

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157. "*piling on* About the tipster...."
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Cicero's history as a lawyer is checked, the newspaper reported. Among other issues the Ohio Supreme Court suspended Cicero's law license for one year in 1997 after he was found to have engaged in conduct prejudicial to the administration of justice and of failing to maintain a respectful attitude toward the courts.

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158. "loltresselol"
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159. "lol at how much you have in common with a michigan fan"
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player hatin from the sidelines

  

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161. "lol @ Vest getting EXPOSED as a pious scumbag is 'hatin'"
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You'd have to be a better program to be worthy of actual hate.

I just happen to enjoy watching hypocrites fall & laughing at y'all, 'playa'.

  

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162. "right...OSU has been pretty unsucessful the past 10 years"
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>You'd have to be a better program to be worthy of actual
>hate.

enjoy swapping jokes with a fans of a similarly irrelevant program to yours

hell, michigan will probably be back before SC.

  

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165. "less successful than USC in those 10 & far less successfull historically"
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But that's neither here nor there, keep trying to spin it about 'hate/fandom' or 'michigan' when really it's about hypocrites & hilarity.

  

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168. "SC: irrelevant and over and done with...nobody cares"
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and with a coach that is by far the most embarrassing in all of DI.


>But that's neither here nor there, keep trying to spin it
>about 'hate/fandom' or 'michigan' when really it's about
>hypocrites & hilarity.

theres no spin. again with the conspiracy theories.

it was just an observation...and a humorous one IMO. keep on fighting the good fight with the fanbase of a fellow sad sack program. OSU will still be doing its thing this year. and between football and bball OSU will still be running the most SUCCESSFUL athletic program in the nation.

  

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170. "K "
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160. "ya apparently the guy is something of a nutjob"
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Columbus: Ohio Supreme Court suspends lawyer Christopher Cicero from the practice of law for one year; Cicero is accused of having a sexual relationship with Judge Deborah O'Neill, who had assigned him to handle a case in her court

edit: why in the fuck would a LAWYER send an unsolicited email containing incriminating info to a public official at his .edu account?

this sounds like some random dumbfuck that desperately wanted to get closer to the program.

  

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163. "sounds like a typical scumbag coach who skipped 3 clear opportunities"
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to come clean about what he knew: when it happened (CORRECT ANSWER), when the shit hit the fan on his players (eh, not admirable but BETTER), or even after the whole shebang when his own emails expose his charade completely (words woulda surely rang hollow but amazingly STILL NO, Vest still plays dumb & pretends he did nothing wrong while stuttering through a press conference).

LMFAO, what a JOKE that guy's act is, his bitchmade-bible-thumper hypocritical-hoe card has been pulled from here til eternity over this bullshit.

Dude didn't even have Bruce Pearl levels of decency after the fact & still doesn't grasp the cover-up is always worse than the crime.

  

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164. "*fatality*... *finish him!*"
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167. "lol, you're trying too hard "
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>to come clean about what he knew: when it happened (CORRECT
>ANSWER), when the shit hit the fan on his players (eh, not
>admirable but BETTER), or even after the whole shebang when
>his own emails expose his charade completely (words woulda
>surely rang hollow but amazingly STILL NO, Vest still plays
>dumb & pretends he did nothing wrong while stuttering through
>a press conference).
>
>LMFAO, what a JOKE that guy's act is, his
>bitchmade-bible-thumper hypocritical-hoe card has been pulled
>from here til eternity over this bullshit.
>
>Dude didn't even have Bruce Pearl levels of decency after the
>fact & still doesn't grasp the cover-up is always worse than
>the crime.
>


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169. "nah, that was really pretty easy n/m"
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171. "There are not enough psssss' or bullet points in this post"
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172. "Lol, seriously...dude is a lawyer and he sends emails like that?"
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182. "and sends it to a fucking .EDU account?"
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maybe cicero = brown sugar and this was a brilliant attempt at sabotage

as soon as that email was sent it was game over.

that's why i cant imagine this clown had any real relationship with tressel...if he did, he wouldve been able to communicate with him via non-retarded means

  

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173. "the p.s.s.'s got me lol"
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175. "If there were an SEC school this post would be at 300 plus. "
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Just making sure y'all know that.











































































rabble rabble rabble

"Slaves got options...cowards aint got shit." --PS
"Once upon a time, little need existed for making the distinction between a nigga and a black—at least not in this country, the place where niggas were invented" -- Donnell A

  

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183. "http://i20.tinypic.com/nvprms.jpg"
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http://i20.tinypic.com/nvprms.jpg
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185. "is that a Youngstown joke?"
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"Slaves got options...cowards aint got shit." --PS
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194. "lol @ Youngstown"
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215. "it's one of america's finest cities"
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268. "nah, they'd have to be in the SHADE!!! - lol"
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184. "cam newton just won yall a chip and a heisman and nobody cares"
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360. "time to move the goal post"
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better make it 500

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177. "Too disappointed to post on this yesterday. "
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The whole thing is idiotic. The players and coach think they are above it all, and in Columbus they probably were, but the feds aren't gonna help you cover something up for your lil football team. So that info is public now and the whole organization looks stupid. Tressel's press conference was pathetic. I had a sick feeling in my stomach, and still kinda do today about this shit. I think the biggest thing is to not have to vacate that w vs Arkansas. LOL

  

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180. "Eh, its not even a big deal...I dont care anymore"
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>The whole thing is idiotic. The players and coach think they
>are above it all, and in Columbus they probably were, but the
>feds aren't gonna help you cover something up for your lil
>football team. So that info is public now and the whole
>organization looks stupid. Tressel's press conference was
>pathetic. I had a sick feeling in my stomach, and still kinda
>do today about this shit. I think the biggest thing is to not
>have to vacate that w vs Arkansas. LOL

vacating last season sucks...but at least we're spotting Michigan a W in the rivalry, they need all the help they can get, and I want it to become a real rivalry again. Not big brother beating up on little sister year in and year our.


The Vest fucked up. But he's still a top 5 coach in the country, and I wouldnt want anyone else at the helm (the thought of Urban Meyer roaming our sidelines makes me shudder)


Tressel will be suspended for at least half the season, but we'll still beat Miami....I think we lose @ Nebraska (considering that will be Pryor and co. first game back)...but we'll still win the conference.


oh yea...Braxton > Denard.

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188. "lol nice hedging"
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>>The whole thing is idiotic. The players and coach think
>they
>>are above it all, and in Columbus they probably were, but
>the
>>feds aren't gonna help you cover something up for your lil
>>football team. So that info is public now and the whole
>>organization looks stupid. Tressel's press conference was
>>pathetic. I had a sick feeling in my stomach, and still
>kinda
>>do today about this shit. I think the biggest thing is to
>not
>>have to vacate that w vs Arkansas. LOL
>
>vacating last season sucks...but at least we're spotting
>Michigan a W in the rivalry, they need all the help they can
>get, and I want it to become a real rivalry again. Not big
>brother beating up on little sister year in and year our.
>
>
>The Vest fucked up. But he's still a top 5 coach in the
>country, and I wouldnt want anyone else at the helm (the
>thought of Urban Meyer roaming our sidelines makes me
>shudder)
>
>
>Tressel will be suspended for at least half the season, but
>we'll still beat Miami....I think we lose @ Nebraska
>(considering that will be Pryor and co. first game back)...but
>we'll still win the conference.
>
>
>oh yea...Braxton > Denard.
>
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189. "*shrug* it is what it is....he lied, he'll get punished."
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it wont affect the future of the program (which includes many many more wins over Michigan)


the only part about the press conference that made me cringe was when he quoted Bush...I'm sure every liberal TOSU fan was going "noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo"...lol.
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190. "Remember USC's former athletic director?"
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The one who, when all the shit came down, was quoted by a reporter just acting like a complete tone-deaf ass, saying "Great day to be a Trojan," "everyone's trying to take us down because they're jealous," etc? And how it only made him somehow look like an even bigger cuntface by trying in vain to turn a culture of win-at-all-cost rulebreaking into an issue of "they iz just cuz mad we win?"

Me neither.

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196. "this ain't reggie/mayo-gate"
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250. "True, cause actually, Pete Carroll was never tied to direct knowledge "
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of the Reggie situation. Meanwhile...

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255. "now youre arguing just for the fun of it"
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197. "What point are you trying to make?"
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198. "None. Everyone's just mad and out to get you."
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199. "k. for a second I thought you were drawing parallels "
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but youre smarter than that.
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200. "pretty sure thats what he is doing"
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and its not all that smart

  

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201. "Stay strong, Buckeye Nation"
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202. "u can draw a legit parallel"
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or you can continue throwing shit at a wall and hope that it sticks.

as already said, this isnt reggie/mayo gate on any level (please argue this if you disagree)...and there isnt an osu fan here that doesnt feel that JT was in the wrong and deserves to be punished.

so again, whats your point? errrrrrrr...

  

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203. "That you guys are acting like cocks, was the point"
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204. "^backpedaled faster than Antoine Winfield"
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205. "How so?"
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The attitudes displayed by tOSU fans in this post mirror that of USC guy.

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207. "Oh ok, I see what youre saying."
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>The attitudes displayed by tOSU fans in this post mirror that
>of USC guy.

*channels inner Mike Garrett*

but we aren't displaying these supposed attitudes to NCAA compliance officers. Just a bunch of people on a msg board. And the majority of the people in this thread talkin that dumb shit are fans of inferior programs with inferior athletic departments, and are jealous of TOSU's successes.

It's pretty obvious.




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208. "Dude, that's pathetic."
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>and are jealous of TOSU's successes.

  

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210. "im a met fan"
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you think its merely coincidence that i hate the yankees and revel in every loss/PR embarrassment of theirs?

you really think brown sugar's motives arent at least partially motivated by the fact that JT completely annihilated his fav program?

lets just be honest with ourselves here. this is a fundamental aspect of sports fandom.

  

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218. "I don't speak to anyone else's motivations"
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But I can speak to mine, and so far I've read what boils down to two sad, sad excuses for Tressel's behavior:

1. All programs are dirty.
2. Everyone is just jealous.

As for #1: So fucking what? You're still dirty.
As for #2: Grow the fuck up.

My alma mater hasn't been relevant in football since the early '90s, and I don't care, because at least the program is relatively clean. Nor do I give a shit about the Big 10 in general, so I'm pretty sure I'm not "jealous." LOL.

But I sure hope Tressel and OSU get the book thrown at them, because like a lot of sensible people, I think dirty ought to be punished.

  

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219. "I'm pretty sure it will be thrown at us..I dont think anyones denied tha..."
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vacating last season and the HC being suspended for the majority of a season is pretty heavy.



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247. "oh I'll deny that as being heavy, that ain't really shit actually"
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226. "RE: I don't speak to anyone else's motivations"
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>But I can speak to mine, and so far I've read what boils down
>to two sad, sad excuses for Tressel's behavior:
>
>1. All programs are dirty.
>2. Everyone is just jealous.

except that just above, i said what he did was wrong and deserved to be punished.

at no time did i offer an excuse for his behavior. i dont recall reading that by anyone else either.

no matter how osu fans reacted to it...people were gonna find some reason (or conjure up a bs reason) to have a problem with it.

the accusations of 'jealousy' are in reference to the reactions to the event. which says nothing about the act itself or how we feel about it.

  

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217. "At least you have lacrosse...*shrug*"
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221. "At least I don't tie my self-esteem to the performance of sports teams"
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223. "Self Esteem? really?"
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225. "Dunno. You seem to be taking all this mad personal."
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228. "This is a message board. People talk shit."
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I'm a little disappointed that we have to vacate last year but nothing said on here is ever taken personally.

Believe what you want.
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231. "where is this official?"
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>I'm a little disappointed that we have to vacate last year
>but nothing said on here is ever taken personally.
>


>Believe what you want.

here's the bottom line. we support a team whose coached lied about players getting free tats. and that makes us shitheads. end of story.

  

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233. " just my guess as to whats gonna happen."
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>>I'm a little disappointed that we have to vacate last year
>>but nothing said on here is ever taken personally.

..I'd love to be proven wrong.

>>Believe what you want.
>
>here's the bottom line. we support a team whose coached lied
>about players getting free tats. and that makes us shitheads.
> end of story.


lol..people spouting off about drug dealers in DC, Gaddafi, Mike Garrett, Bruce Pearl, Pete Carroll, etc..and they think theyre making valid points too

...shit is hilarious, and will only get better..we should get an anchor.



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243. "i just think the having the 'book thrown at us' stuff"
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might be a bit premature. its a PR mess currently but that will die down soon enough...especially since it seems like theres going to be another school on the hot seat pretty damn soon. yahoo is going in on all of college football HARD.

the first half of the season will be a clusterfuck (as it was going to be already) and after that i dont see much effect from this. but we'll see.

  

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206. "you got something specific you wanna reference?"
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surely you cant be insinuating that brown sugar isnt in fact a completely JEALOUS and obsessed bitch whose posting like its his occupation. hell, i think dude would actually admit that himself, lol.

  

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211. "Don't know/care about you and brown sugar's issues with one another"
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I know you both despise one another's alma maters, that's about it.

And every single post by a Buckeye fan in here.

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213. "lol. thanks for demonstrating your point."
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>And every single post by a Buckeye fan in here.

if i acted like a dickhead, id be glad to admit it.

  

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216. "Clearly"
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>if i acted like a dickhead, id be glad to admit it.
>

And tell me that Youngstown remark a few posts ago was sarcastic. Youngstown makes Rockford look like Chicago.

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222. "It was a comment made by Kirk Herbstreit"
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>>if i acted like a dickhead, id be glad to admit it.
>>
>
>And tell me that Youngstown remark a few posts ago was
>sarcastic. Youngstown makes Rockford look like Chicago.

when he was talking about how it was a cradle of coaching during the UF/Sooner game I think (Meyer and Stoops both being from the area)

...obviously
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224. "gee, hope quoting herbstreit didnt offend you"
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>>if i acted like a dickhead, id be glad to admit it.
>>
>
>And tell me that Youngstown remark a few posts ago was
>sarcastic. Youngstown makes Rockford look like Chicago.

you've had about 10 chances to explain yourself in a logical fashion and youve been evasive each time.

at this point youre the only one acting like a dick.

  

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232. "?"
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No, I didn't know Kirk Herbstreit said that. Should I?

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241. "no. i think veritas and I were the only ones on earth that caught it"
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>No, I didn't know Kirk Herbstreit said that. Should I?

i really wish more people did cause it may have been the most ridiculous thing ive ever heard during a broadcast.

  

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229. "The osu fans on this board have always struck me as delusional..."
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But damn. This is just sad.

I don't understand what is so difficult about admitting that your head coach doesn't exactly walk the walk. He is a hypocrite, so be it. Your program is as dirty as they come, and pretending 10-2 every year makes you the best in the country is downright pathetic. Why are yall so adamant about standing behind this guy, when its obvious he is a snake? Show some fucking pride in your school, not in some two-faced crook who has won a few ballgames.

Now please tell me I'm a jealous fan of an inferior program, so I can then say this:

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230. "*HERE IS THE ATTENTION YOU CRAVE*"
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>But damn. This is just sad.
>
>I don't understand what is so difficult about admitting that
>your head coach doesn't exactly walk the walk. He is a
>hypocrite, so be it. Your program is as dirty as they come,
>and pretending 10-2 every year makes you the best in the
>country is downright pathetic. Why are yall so adamant about
>standing behind this guy, when its obvious he is a snake? Show
>some fucking pride in your school, not in some two-faced crook
>who has won a few ballgames.
>
>Now please tell me I'm a jealous fan of an inferior program,
>so I can then say this:
>
>http://www.secsportsfan.com/images/lsu-vs-ohio-state.jpg


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236. "That's ether. I'll say this though: If they aren't one of"
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the top 5 programs over the past decade, who the fuck is?

I love that the Vest is exposed as no different, no less slick or dirty than any of those sweet talking southerners that always get shit talked about in the SEC or Les Miles.

That shit makes me smile only because I've always maintained that EVERY fucking program is dirty. ALL of them. It's just a matter of getting caught.

Sometimes the coach knows, sometimes they choose not to know and sometimes they're just ignorant. In this case he knew.

Out the window with that aww shucks midwestern, "we do it right" steez.

Finally.

There's no way you get a 4 star out of the South East past all the SEC and ACC schools without having some dirt. I'm sorry. There's nothing compelling about leaving the south to play football unless you're running from demons.

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254. "wake me when a SEC school self-reports a violation "
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and suspends their head coach

hell, at this point telling the NCAA to fuck off and refusing to cooperate is probably the smart route to take.

  

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260. "UGA has. Plus UGA has sent top flite talent to"
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JuCO in a HEART beat. We've ruined releationships with so many highschools behind that. We've sent their starts to Hargrove if they had an issue.

We should have done that with Caleb King too.

Why are you taking offense? I'm saying everyone is the same. Also, you get no points for self reporting when it is obvious you had a great chance of getting caught.

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262. "Like you said, self reporting is not some rare deal. SEC schools do it."
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Including my school, LSU, just last year:

http://espn.go.com/blog/sec/post/_/id/9739/lsu-self-reports-ncaa-violations

Self reporting is standard operating procedure for a big time program, not some valient, righteous fucking act. These guys are seriously delusional.

And I love how the SEC is always made to be height of corruption in college football, while USC and OSU fans are in here arguing about who's slimeball ass coach is less dirty.

  

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286. "I shouldve been more specific to Auburn"
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UGA seems to do shit a bit differently. Richt seems like a decent guy in the same way Tressel seems like a decent guy. you can only be so decent, however.

but my point was that Auburn told the NCAA to shove it. and then went out and won a 'chip. they werent self reporting shit.


>Why are you taking offense?

don't see that i am

>I'm saying everyone is the same.
>Also, you get no points for self reporting when it is obvious
>you had a great chance of getting caught.

which is kind of strange in the OSU case, because the moment that fuckface lawyer sent that email...it was a wrap.

i cant even understand tressel sitting there and reading the emails sent to his public account. dont they have a gatekeeper for that kind of shit? hell, we couldve pinned all of this on some incompetent secretary that 'forgot' to forward the email to the powers that be.

  

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239. "Precedent: "
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“Since 2006, the NCAA has sanctioned 27 schools for violating bylaw 10.1, which requires coaches and others to be truthful and forthcoming about possible NCAA violations. Of the 12 coaches involved, only one kept his job. The others either resigned or were fired by their schools.” Ohio State terminated relationships with Jim O’Brien and Maurice Clarett after unethical conduct charges.

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242. "stuff like this is generally evaluated on an individual basis"
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and OSU has already said they wont be firing him...sooooooo?

i find the clamoring for this guy to be fired (and this isnt the first time) to be awfully humorous. i mean, yall arent even OSU fans...what the fuck would it matter to you?

OSU wants him to stay.

the players want him to stay.

OSU fans want him to stay.

and thats really all that matters.

  

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244. "basically."
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>and OSU has already said they wont be firing him...sooooooo?
>
>i find the clamoring for this guy to be fired (and this isnt
>the first time) to be awfully humorous. i mean, yall arent
>even OSU fans...what the fuck would it matter to you?
>
>OSU wants him to stay.
>
>the players want him to stay.
>
>OSU fans want him to stay.
>
>and thats really all that matters.


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245. "anybody here demanding chizik or kiffin to be fired?"
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252. "OKS reaction is pretty variable"
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I mean, for some reason there are a lot of Michigan fans on here, and some vocal Ohio State ones. that's why the Michigan-Ohio State threads go platinum despite being the worst rivalry games in recent memory.

I can't name a single *real* Auburn fan, and the one bama fan went back to lurking. the only USC fan here has a well-known origin of Philly. it's more dependent on poster numbers than the act -- Bruce Pearl did practically the same thing, and the only people who cared were the two Kentucky fans on here.

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256. "RE: OKS reaction is pretty variable"
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>I mean, for some reason there are a lot of Michigan fans on
>here, and some vocal Ohio State ones. that's why the
>Michigan-Ohio State threads go platinum despite being the
>worst rivalry games in recent memory.

this thread isnt relegated to michigan-OSU. you got fans of other schools wanting dude to be fired. that's a strange reaction.

>I can't name a single *real* Auburn fan, and the one bama fan
>went back to lurking.

except this entire board (myself included) spent the entire season pulling for a player who was caught on tape being auctioned off for 150k.

Oregon funneling 25k into the hands of a street agent and putting it on the fucking books...that story lasted about 8 seconds.

folks on here gets a moral conscious when it suits them.


> Bruce Pearl did practically the same thing, and the
>only people who cared were the two Kentucky fans on here.

ya i honestly couldnt tell you what bruce pearl did.

  

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259. "so you think Oregon and Auburn are equal in stature"
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to Ohio State? that would have to be true if you wanted the *same* reaction. Auburn doesn't have any real fans here -- people liked Newton, but the team hasn't been good enough recently to incite widespread hate (like how people thought the 2001 Patriots were a cute story at the time). Newton is gone, and nobody is going to give a shit if they go 5-7 next season and Chizik is fired for selling coke.

anyway, you can cite comparable differences all day. 3/4 the replies are from rival Big 11 fans -- no surprise. another 1/5 the replies are from Bombastic gloating in role reversal after the infatuation you and guru had with USC. the rest of the comments are typical reactions to any high profile coach who has to be suspended by his own school.

although yeah, people change their moral code based on circumstance.

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273. "so IOW, you agree with me. i appreciate your objectivity"
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> another 1/5
>the replies are from Bombastic gloating in role reversal after
>the infatuation you and guru had with USC.

and guess why me and guru hated sc? aside from leinart being a punk...it was cause SC was better than our squad. it was fun to see their empire go down.

at least me and guru have the balls to be straight forward about it. but yeah, we're 'delusional assholes'...lol.

>the rest of the
>comments are typical reactions to any high profile coach who
>has to be suspended by his own school.

the demand for someone to be fired is extra. and we know why big 10 fans want tressel out of there.

  

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253. "just curious: what do we have Kiffin caught doing comparable to this?"
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257. "fair enough...but i suppose the same could be said for chizik"
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i mean, he hasn't been 'busted' for anything...yet.

you either love JT or u hate him and nobody is gonna be swayed one way or the other after what's just happened.

  

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258. "oh I would say a lot of people have been 'swayed' by this charade"
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This has certainly changed his perception in the eyes of many, deservedly so.

  

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269. "yeah, tress was really a fan favorite on here prior to this"
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279. "uh, this has clearly changed the way Tressel is viewed everywhere"
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281. "yeah, people who already didnt like him will now like him less"
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people who liked him will forgive him and move on with their lives.

whoopty doo.

  

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298. "lol @ u still thinkin this is about 'liking' Tressel rather than Vest's"
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own actions leading to him being exposed in public fashion.

Plenty of people who 'liked' Tressel are shitting on him for this, deservedly so.

  

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261. "Yup. Right now it's OSU's call to treat this like it's almost nothing."
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And everyone sees how they're playing this.

They're a dirty yet sanctimonious program like almost every other one on the planet. And if they had any integrity at all, they'd fire him, like most other colleges have done in equally serious situations.

But they're not. And they're showing who they are. An elite college program who's completely subservient to the man who's brought them W's, so they'll ignore transgressions in order to keep winning by playing loose with semantic games and pretzel-like legal justifications.

It's pretty straightforward.

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272. "RE: Yup. Right now it's OSU's call to treat this like it's almost nothin..."
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>And everyone sees how they're playing this.

well, i dont think this is over. and i think there's a lot more to this story than meets the eye cause a lot of it doesnt add up. maybe there's more shit to incriminate osu and maybe JT took the sword to avoid bigger penalties...maybe there's some info that makes them look a bit better. who really knows at this point. so, id let this play out a bit before you fire up the torches.

>They're a dirty yet sanctimonious program like almost every
>other one on the planet. And if they had any integrity at all,
>they'd fire him, like most other colleges have done in equally
>serious situations.

curiosity question. were you pulling for cam to win the heisman and to beat oregon?

second curiosity question. and theres no snark to this. could you discuss the specifics of these other situations involved in said precedent? like i said, as with any organization, firings are handled on an individual basis. because X school did such and such isnt gonna fly with Y school. and there isn't a standard NCAA rule that says you must fire a coach if he does X.

it seems like what the coach was lying about/covering up would influence these decisions heavily. ie. if tressel covered up that 5 players were involved in a sexual assault case...id find that to be disgusting and an immediately fireable offense.

covering up some shit (wrong no matter what) that didnt really bother me in the first place from a moral standpoint (free tats)...sorry, im not gonna flip my wig about it. its wrong and punishable but im keeping it in perspective, especially when you consider the entire body of work which is undeniably impressive. if you think tressel hasnt done an enormous amount of good work for the university and for the community then youre fooling yourself and not looking at this objectively. body of work is important at any organization and the good far outweighs the bad here.


> An elite
>college program who's completely subservient to the man who's
>brought them W's, so they'll ignore transgressions in order to
>keep winning by playing loose with semantic games and
>pretzel-like legal justifications.

welcome to college football and professional sports. these guys (players included) rule the roost. we all know this.

  

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274. "He knowingly lied about a pretty serious investigation."
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He should be fired.

It's pretty straightforward.

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276. "lol, no its not. Nothing is ever straightforward with the NCAA. "
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>He should be fired.
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280. "witheld information, lied to his university, lied to the NCAA even after"
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it was exposed, & still refusing to own it even a little bit now that we actually have documented evidence on the record.

Yes, that's pretty much a fireable offense but won't be.

  

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284. "ah ah ahhhh. nobody's talking about the goofy ass NCAA"
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We're talking about what an organization or institution does when one of its premier employees knowingly lies and impedes a serious investigation.

Only OSU fans think he shouldn't be fired.

Get some perspective.

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288. "maybe there were many more involved w/this than tressel?"
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>We're talking about what an organization or institution does
>when one of its premier employees knowingly lies and impedes a
>serious investigation.

and this could be impacting the decision?

its naive of either of us to claim that know 100% of what went on here.

the idea that this stayed between tressel, the players and the lawyer seems unlikely.

  

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299. "the idea that Tressel's done anything but lie at every opportunity"
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is even more unlikely.

LOL @ his press conference, if there's anything worse than a scumbag it's a sanctimonious under-cover scumbag.

This bitch has less character & credibility than Carrol or Calipari by far at this point.

  

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301. "lol why stop there? keep writing that script my man..."
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your program will still be in the shiiter

>This bitch has less character & credibility than Carrol or
>Calipari by far at this point.

  

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302. "who needs a script when we have that Pious Prick's emails & pressers?"
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The JOKE(vest) writes itself.

  

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303. "next january should be fun for you"
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you can hold hands with the okp michigan crew and root really really hard against OSU in their bowl game.

that'll teach tress and the OSU fanbase a thing or two!!

  

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304. "your deflections have begun to mirror Stuttervest's speaking on Tuesday"
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307. "I'm relegating my comments to future fallout only"
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309. "maybe I should just email it to your .edu, whatever u do dont tell a mod"
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psssssss.......EXPOSED!

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305. "lol, trying too hard....again."
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>This bitch has less character & credibility than Carrol or
>Calipari by far at this point.


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306. "oh that's absolutely right as rain, sorry"
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>>This bitch has less character & credibility than Carrol or
>>Calipari by far at this point.
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308. "k."
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>>>This bitch has less character & credibility than Carrol or
>>>Calipari by far at this point.
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282. "thanks for your answers"
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285. "I couldn't care less about Cam Newton."
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I was rooting for Oregon because I have a few friends who went there.

And lying to an investigation is a fireable offense, especially in something like collegiate sports.

I have no dog in this fight. I don't really follow college football. I certainly don't have a favorite team (or hated team). (Go Violets!)

But the idea that Tressel shouldn't lose his job over lying to investigators about college athletes getting very illegal perks is a joke.

Any other questions?

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287. "RE: I couldn't care less about Cam Newton."
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>And lying to an investigation is a fireable offense,

it can be. it doesnt have to be.

like i said, if tressel had covered up a violent crime...i think he'd be gone and i want him to be gone.

>Any other questions?

i wouldve been interested to hear the circumstances in the other cases but im good. u aint gotta research that. i just think thats important to know before you start discussing precedents and how it pertains to the situation in question.

  

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267. "no one is "demanding" that the liar be fired but it's amazing how OSU"
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fans ignore that all but 1 coach has been fired for this offense. There is NO institutional control @ OSU when the president makes statements like "No, are you kidding?” he said with a laugh. “Let me be very clear. I’m just hoping the coach doesn’t dismiss me.”

The "punishment" and press conference actually did MORE to hurt OSU than help by anyone who is objectively looking at the inner workings of the school & how the leadership handles serious infractions. Having said that:

OSU fans are the only ones who don't think this is a big deal.
OSU fans are the only ones who ignore the precedent set when coaches have violated this rule in the past.

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270. "RE: no one is &quot;demanding&quot; that the liar be fired but it's amaz..."
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>fans ignore that all but 1 coach has been fired for this
>offense.

what does this have to do with what should be taking place in this situatio

>There is NO institutional control @ OSU when the
>president makes statements like "No, are you kidding?” he said
>with a laugh. “Let me be very clear. I’m just hoping the coach
>doesn’t dismiss me.”

LOL. he's a clown but we knew that already. and he needs to stop with the comedy act every time someone shoves a microphone in his face. with that said, im not sure what a dumb quote 'proves', however other than more fodder for the court of public opinion (which matters not). dumb quotes or not you'd still be making the same insinuations.


>OSU fans are the only ones who don't think this is a big deal.

show me where anyone has said that it wasnt.

>
>OSU fans are the only ones who ignore the precedent set when
>coaches have violated this rule in the past.

so really, you are demanding that he needs to be fired...

and who's ignoring anything? are osu fans supposed to fire him ourselves? in the same way we've had the power to override tressel and hire an offensive coordinator, lol...

would it make you happy to see him fired? were you on here after the usc loss suggesting that he be fired? probably. gee, wonder why that is? and be sure to follow up with a 'u mad' response to further show how not delusional your ass really is when its clear the only people catching emotions here are fuckers like you that are out for blood.

you have a couple of OSU fans on here...all of which have conceded that what he did was wrong and should be punished. yet youre still acting like a hoe about it, making claims of delusions or whatever. perhaps you should familiarize yourself with the word cause you really dont seem to get it.

  

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271. "but u r mad tho - *shrugs*"
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275. "smh...thats all you could come up with? "
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lol. sad sad sad.

you acting real troll and brown fructose like.


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277. "it doesn't matter what I say... y'all are delusional as hell - lol"
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278. "so go on the record ..whats ur prediction as to what hte NCAA does?"
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291. "I have no idea... I'm waiting to see just like y'all.."
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I was just pointing out that shit like this has gotten most coaches fired. It's a bad situation...
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323. "soo, as usual...nothing meaningful to add...got it..nm"
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398. "http://i55.tinypic.com/33ykx3p.jpg"
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310. "why is my name always in your mouth?"
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are my balls as salty as i think they are? i haven't showered yet today.

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283. "says the guy praying that another man loses his job"
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so his team could maybe win a ballgame once again in his lifetime

funny part is yall would still lose

  

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289. "wow.. you're furious... lol"
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breath..
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311. "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3VFnbojEyE"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3VFnbojEyE

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263. "^ talkin bout it ^"
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240. "2 years of probation was deemed not harsh enough for extra stretching"
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The ncaa investigation will probably get messier than osu fans care to admit

The ncaa has gotten a lot of bad press lately for the sugar bowl, the SI report, and the "I didn't know my dad was willfully breaking ncaa rules" defense.

They might try to set an example here

  

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246. "lol. who on here or in the press suggested a harsher penalty for UM?"
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248. "the ncaa did. the two yrs was self applied, a 3rd was tacked on"
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249. "gotcha"
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im not even sure what the hell 'probation' entails anyway

im guessing its not a huge deal

  

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264. "support this post on many levels &quot;career over?&quot; cmon"
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i can think of a handful of examples with this violation and in every one of them the coach lost their job but he will coach again even IF that happens.

it's always a joy listening to AN ohio state university's faithful though, carry on.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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290. "well, at least barry switzer has our back, lol"
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"Many of these infractions are things that wouldn't have registered in the past. "Jim Tressel's situation, that's jaywalking to me," said former Oklahoma coach Barry Switzer. "These things don't surprise me. This stuff has gone on forever."

and

"Mississippi State coach Dan Mullen says much of the pressure comes from the increasing number of "big-money media sources" competing for stories. "Everyone's trying to get the scoop and it gets a little sensational," he said.

  

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293. "lol Dick Rod too..."
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Michigan-Ohio State is, of course, a rivalry, but it isn't an underhanded one that includes negative recruiting, at least not according to Rich Rodriguez. Rodriguez said that while he and his staff at Michigan dealt with negative recruiting, it was never at the hands of Tressel and the staff at Ohio State. "In my experience in three years of recruiting against them we didn't sense that, hey, Ohio State is one of these schools that are on the edge," Rodriguez said. "There were others we thought were doing that." ... "I think some of them are getting looked at right now. So that will come out here pretty soon." Rodriguez quickly added another emphatic defense of Ohio State and its recruiting habits, at least as it related to the Michigan-OSU rivalry.

Read more: http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/272110-rich-rod-sticks-up-for-osu?eref=fromSI#ixzz1GKFZLq3W








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294. "let's be positive..."
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295. "That's like slapping your wife and Ike Turner coming to your defense"
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Or Michael Irvin being a character witness for you (Nate Newton, son!!!).

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297. "Or Mike Vick joining PETA..."
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cmon, NFC East hate is always in play..
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358. "yeah but that inoffensive and for the record i hate switzer bc of OU"
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not the cowboys.

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296. "ol' Switzer thought it was cool to bring a gun on a plane too"
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Lol

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312. "You guys could use this....."
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_l_A6-7td0

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313. "NCAA rules Arkansas State must forfeit wins (ineligible players)"
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More precedent...

NCAA rules Arkansas State must forfeit wins
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ap-arkansasst-ncaa
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314. "BUT... BUT... IT'S NOT PRECEDENT!"
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EACH CASE IS DECIDED ON AN INDIVIDUAL BASIS!


lol delusional osu fans lol.

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316. "at least dirty SEC schools win championships...lolzers"
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OSU working full time on breaking rules and still stumbling/bumbling their way through mediocre seasons and getting sodomized by real teams in big games.

Tress Dog trying to hang with the big boys...bless his heart...but his true nerd dad colors shine too brightly.

this whole thing is such a sloppy-drunk-frat-girl-style train wreck...hilarity!

  

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317. "^^^AUTHENTIC DISCOURSE"
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318. "^ Lindsay Lohan'in this post ^"
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320. "lmao at this:"
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>OSU working full time on breaking rules and still
>stumbling/bumbling their way through mediocre seasons and
>getting sodomized by real teams in big games.
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>Tress Dog trying to hang with the big boys...bless his
>heart...but his true nerd dad colors shine too brightly.

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319. "'Relololentless" Buckeye fans force Herbstreit to move"
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http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/12/relentless-buckeye-fans-force-herbstreit-to-move-from-ohio/

Like many, many kids born and raised in the state, Kirk Herbstreit grew up as a fan of the Ohio State Buckeyes, particularly the football program. Like his father Jim, he played football at the school, becoming the starting quarterback and co-captain in the late eighties and early nineties.

After his eligibility expired, Herbstreit remained in Columbus as a radio personality, and ultimately became arguably the face of college football on ESPN. Unfortunately, he also became the subject of vitriol spewed by his own people — Buckeye fans — for having the utter gall and audacity to attempt to be fair and balanced when analyzing/reporting on his alma mater.

And, thanks to that small but deafening portion of the OSU fan base, Herbstreit has been forced to uproot himself and his family from his — and their — lifelong home.

Herbstreit has confirmed to Bob Hunter of the Columbus Dispatch that he, his wife and his four sons moved from their Ohio home Thursday to a new one in Tennessee. And, as you’ve probably already ascertained, it was a decision he says he was forced to make, not one he wanted to.

“Nobody loves Ohio State more than me,” Herbstreit, who’ll continue doing his Columbus radio show in the fall, told the paper. “I still have a picture of Woody Hayes and my dad (Jim, a former OSU player) in my office, and nobody will do more than I do for the university behind the scenes. But I’ve got a job to do, and I’m going to continue to be fair and objective. To continue to have to defend myself and my family in regards to my love and devotion to Ohio State is unfair. …

“Eighty to ninety percent of the Ohio State fans are great. It’s the vocal minority that make it rough. They probably represent only 5 to 10 percent of the fan base, but they are relentless.”

Personally, I’d put the numbers at 70-30 in favor of “great”, but won’t quibble over some percentage points.

Regardless of the actual numbers, it’s a damn shame and utter travesty — shavesty? — that Herbstreit was forced to move out of a state in which he’s lived for four decades or so because of a handful of shameless, braying jackasses.

Was he “unfairly critical” at times of his Buckeyes? Probably. He’s a fallible human being, though, not some 2,000-year-old carpenter from Galilee. Did it appear at times he swung his opinion in the extreme opposite direction in order to “prove” to the nation that he was not biased in favor of his alma mater? Sure seemed that way on occasion.

Did he deserve the type of persecution he says he received from Buckeye Nation? If you need an answer to that question, you’re likely part of the dolt minority.

Especially when you consider that there’s photographic proof that, if anything, he should be criticized for wearing his inner Scarlet & Gray too much on his sleeve. In public:

Yeah, look at how much he despises the program for which he played. The disdain is clearly written all over his face for all to see.

Honestly, some people really, really need to get a life. Especially when their need to live vicariously through some laundry and colors alters the lives of four kids simply because their dad was trying to do his job.

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321. "lol good!"
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Herbie is a faggot anyway.

ol wanna be Bob Woodward ass mfer...

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326. "good, i hope he takes that fucknut lawyer cicero with him"
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sad if true, but excuse me if i dont cue the violins for this guy.

this wasnt an overnight thing. herbie was ENORMOUSLY popular for many years in c-bus. it took a really special brand of idiocy and a really concerted effort for him to earn the scorn of everyone in the city (and the football program).

the hate for herbie has been years in the making and he drew a major line in the sand when he voted OSU 5 spots lower than everybody else in america for the final season rankings. herbie knew what he was doing. dont cry about the outcome after the fact.

chances are he'd flat out rather live in nashville (hell, id rather live in nashville) and he's just bitching about this to earn sympathy points.

  

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329. "yall are killing me"
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you're celebrating that his wife and kids have to change schools because you don't like something their dad said about your football team
let's think this over.


http://card.mygamercard.net/lastgame/rjcc.png

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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331. "nobody's celebrating"
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just not really sympathetic to the outcome considering this is something he literally worked for.

and i think he's full of shit anyway as to the motivations behind the move. its not like dude fled beverly hills. he was living in a suburb of ohio and is now gonna take his 2 million per year salary and live like a king in nashville. i think him and his fam will be ok.

  

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338. "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPn0KFlbqX8"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPn0KFlbqX8

"Slaves got options...cowards aint got shit." --PS
"Once upon a time, little need existed for making the distinction between a nigga and a black—at least not in this country, the place where niggas were invented" -- Donnell A

  

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355. "dude they're in the middle of FUCKING NOWHERE lol "
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u cling on to shit like that , cuz wtf else are u gonna do lol

  

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356. "oh, your dumbass again. lol. trolls coming out of the woodwork here."
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>u cling on to shit like that , cuz wtf else are u gonna do
>lol


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335. "this is the shit that kills me about y'all"
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>the hate for herbie has been years in the making and he drew a
>major line in the sand when he voted OSU 5 spots lower than
>everybody else in america for the final season rankings.


why the FUCK do you care about your final rankings? that shit is just bizarre, dude. y'all get hyped over the most meaningless piddly diddly bullshit.

"he drew a major line in the sand"

fuuuuuuuck that's sad. tha fuck is wrong with you?

  

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336. "lollll"
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<-- BAUGH SO HARD

  

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337. "Everybody does that with significant outliers"
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I would hope they would to out the passive-aggressive bullshit that coaches and some writers do to prop up their own agendas

Gary Pinkel's voting immediately comes to mind

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339. "meaning, he goes out of his way to agitate folks"
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whether or not the final rankings are *truly* important (how important is college football in the grand scheme of things anyway?) is not of issue...he knows that it is important to a lot of people in the community and his listenership and he knows his actons will cause controversey...but he goes ahead and does it anyway. if you wanna poke the bear, please dont cry about the outcome after the fact.


>fuuuuuuuck that's sad. tha fuck is wrong with you?

funny. i wonder the same thing about you. youve replaced yoose2lurk as the most consistently angry poster. your avatar is really fitting.

  

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327. "lol @ the idiotic "vocal minority" responding to this post"
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i can just picture guru and 3x cutting out individual letters from the Detroit Free Press and pasting them together to make a deranged death threat to Herbstreit.

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328. "i wouldnt get started on the fatal attraction, obsessive type stuff"
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>i can just picture guru and 3x cutting out individual letters
>from the Detroit Free Press and pasting them together to make
>a deranged death threat to Herbstreit.

your ass has already been exposed about that

  

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332. "he 'pictures' alot if shit...creepy as hell "
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333. "i picture you rubbing one out for 3x on your nightly skype date"
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<-- BAUGH SO HARD

  

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334. "its a shame all this creative talent is going to waste in law school"
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you must live a very frustrated life

  

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340. "i think you mean idiotic vocal "minority""
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341. "Go make another post abt what blk people should be embarrassed about"
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you really showed your old white man "colors" in there....




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343. "he can't. he's too busy preparing urine specimens to throw at OSU'ers"
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justice in the name of free tats and herbie!!

i think herbie has predicted psu to win the big 10 for like 8 years running now...i can see why shelly is very upset about him having to purchase a new mansion elsewhere.

  

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330. "Lol at the bombASStic troll all over this thread"
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For someone who said No one cares about college sports on this board he's certainly acting a fool showing his insecurities up an down this thread

Pathetic as always

  

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361. "you continue to amaze me w/your stupidity, what I told your dumb ass"
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(on multiple occasions because you tend to lock in one bit of blather then repeat it ad naseum) is that no one cares about your life or OSU basketball in an NBA post.

None of that means StutterVest hasn't completely embarrassed himself this week or that I'm not gonna fuck with 3X & guru about it.

  

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362. "A. You're obviously not college educated and it shows"
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B. You care about my life because you keep trying to say I'm mad when I've in fact never been happier life.

C. You said "no one cares" about a thread you're trolling up and down.

  

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364. "wrong on all counts per usual, bye n/m"
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377. "What ever makes you sleep better at night..carry on trolling"
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342. "Hold up, y'all think Tres-dawg fallin on his sword to cover the ADs ass?"
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Now, don't get me wrong. Tressel would still be in trouble because he knowing played ineligible players and lied about it to the NCAA but maybe Gene Smith knew about this?


What happens next at Ohio State?
By BRUCE HOOLEY
FOXSportOhio.com
March 11, 2011

http://www.foxsportsohio.com/03/11/11/What-happens-next-at-Ohio-State/landing_ohiostate.html?blockID=438181&feedID=3725

Ohio State coach Jim Tressel was seated next to athletic director Gene Smith at the Dec. 23 press conference announcing the suspension of five OSU players for selling memorabilia and merchandise in violation of NCAA rules.

Smith did most of the talking that day, with Tressel at his side when the OSU AD said:

“There are no other NCAA violations around this case. We’re very fortunate that we do not have a systemic problem in our program. This is isolated to these young men, isolated to this particular instance. There are no other violations that exist.”

Tressel undoubtedly heard Smith’s statement, but did not pull his boss aside that day, in the next week during OSU’s trip to the Sugar Bowl or throughout the first two weeks of January to tell him otherwise.

On Jan. 13, while searching Tressel’s email, Ohio State found the communications which confirmed the coach’s knowledge since April of his players’ NCAA rules violations.

As the NCAA now pores over Ohio State’s self-report that damages Tressel’s credibility and the school’s image, the collegiate athletics’ governing body can find other evidence of Tressel’s words and actions failing to match his reputation for honesty and integrity.

At the Dec. 23 press conference announcing his players’ suspensions, Tressel was asked about his most significant regret.

“I think the biggest disappointment that I have, knowing that there are mitigating circumstances in all of our lives, we have to seek the right solutions,” Tressel said. “And the right solutions are to come to people who understand the rules, who know what our options are, who could maybe provide a direction we could go.”

Had Tressel heeded his own advice, he would have taken the email he received on April 2, which outlined his players’ activities in violation of NCAA rules with Columbus tattoo parlor owner Edward Rife, either to Smith or OSU’s rules compliance office.

Instead, OSU’s report to the NCAA says Tressel “did not inform institutional officials” about the “specific information” he received regarding the players’ rules violations in that email and others from Columbus attorney Chris Cicero.

Asked Dec. 23 about his efforts to educate players in avoiding NCAA penalties, Tressel said: “There’s a constant discussion of doing the right thing. If you’re not sure, don’t (do it). Then, let’s come ask.”

And on that same topic that same day, Tressel added this: “I think we all have a little sensor within us. ‘Boy, I’m not sure if I should be doing this.’ Sometimes, it gets overridden by what you think your necessity is.”

It’s speculative what Tressel believed his necessity was in concealing the details of his players’ wrongdoing for nine months, playing them an entire season during the interim, until OSU confronted him with his deception.

Tressel claims to have been motivated by a fear for his players’ safety, and by Cicero’s request for confidentiality.

If Tressel spoke to his players and prohibited them from associating with Rife out of fear for their safety, they did not heed the coach’s advice. Rife was selling both Nike Pro Combat shoes and gloves worn and autographed by the players from the Michigan game played in November.

As for Tressel’s confidentiality explanation, Cicero’s first email made no such request, and no confidentiality requirement ever actually existed between the coach and Cicero because they had no attorney-client relationship.

These are some aspects of Tressel’s behavior the NCAA will scrutinize in determining whether to rubber-stamp or amplify the two-game suspension and $250,000 fine OSU levied against its coach.

In this era of Auburn’s Cameron Newton and Ohio State’s Tattoo Five being permitted to play in the immediate aftermath of committing NCAA violations, predicting the NCAA’s next move is harder than forecasting Charlie Sheen’s next stream-of-consciousness rant.

Tressel’s failure to disclose his knowledge of the rule-breaking by Terrelle Pryor, DeVier Posey, Dan Herron, Mike Adams and Solomon Thomas makes the NCAA look even worse than it did when each of those players contributed significantly to OSU’s win over Arkansas in the Sugar Bowl.

OSU’s report to the NCAA says:

• Tressel signed an NCAA form in September stating he knew of no possible violations in his program.

• He did not tell OSU of his prior knowledge in December when the Department of Justice informed the school that the players were involved with Rife in activities that violated NCAA rules.

• Later that month, after the players were interviewed by investigators, Tressel gave vague and misleading answers about the detailed information he received in a series of emails regarding the relationship between Rife and the five players.

It is a measure of Tressel’s popularity in Ohio and beyond that loyalists have birthed scenarios over the past two days to excuse the findings in OSU’s report to the NCAA.

A brief exchange between a reporter and Tressel at the Tuesday press conference where OSU announced Tressel’s wrongdoing has given rise to one widespread, albeit implausible, explanation.

Tressel nodded affirmatively when asked if he had forwarded the emails from Cicero to anyone else at Ohio State. Smith quickly intervened before Tressel could say more and said the coach would not be permitted to answer because the matter involves an ongoing NCAA investigation.

From that, conspiracy theorists reckon that Tressel is covering for someone else at Ohio State, nobly falling on his sword to protect a person more notable and important to OSU’s image.

There is no second shooter on the grassy knoll in this case, however, because there simply is no one more powerful, more high-profile or whose reputation is more precious to Ohio State than Tressel himself.

Of the $7 million in combined annual salary standing at the podium Tuesday when Tressel’s rule-breaking was detailed, his $4 million salary dwarfs both university president Gordon Gee ($2 million) and Smith ($1 million).

Tressel is the guy others would be made to take the fall for, not the other way around.

That much was evident at the Dec. 23 press conference, when OSU’s compliance office was thrown under the bus and backed over several times by Smith. He explained the players’ selling of memorabilia to Rife as a failure of the compliance office to inform them they could not sell championship rings and other items for profit.

If that were the case, how did 80 scholarship players get the message such behavior was prohibited and only five did not?

OSU would gladly sacrifice any of its compliance personnel, Smith or even Gee to preserve Tressel’s previously pristine image. By doing so, the school would protect its sweater-vested, fundraising juggernaut and keep the football cash register ringing to finance a bloated 36-sport athletic department.

How else to explain Gee and Smith turning what was supposed to be a mea-culpa over Tressel’s wrongdoing into a testimonial about his moral character and service to the school and community?

Whether the NCAA will be dazzled by Tressel’s reputation or treat him as roughly as it has other violators in similar cases is unknown.

Smith said OSU examined past precedent to arrive at the two-game suspension and $250,000 fine.

The Columbus Dispatch reported Thursday that since 2006, 13 head coaches in all Division I sports have broken the same bylaw Tressel broke by attesting in September that he had no knowledge of violations in his program. According to the Dispatch, 12 of those coaches were forced to resign or were fired.

The NCAA has historically taken a hands-off approach when misbehavior in Ohio State’s football program arises. The Buckeyes did not vacate their 2002 national championship won with Maurice Clarett in violation in NCAA rules, nor did OSU forfeit victories from the 2004 season when eventual Heisman Trophy winner Troy Smith played in the aftermath of taking $500 from a booster.

The only hammer the NCAA holds over rogue coaches is the threat of stiff punishment should they mislead investigators or mock rules compliance efforts by falsifying documents.

Tressel did both, which has given Ohio State a much bigger headache than how to handle the first five games of 2011 without Pryor and his four teammates.

Of that challenge, after winning the Sugar Bowl, Tressel said:

“I’m looking forward….We have a plan. If we stick to our plan, we’ll be fine. That’s what we plan to do.”

Now, the plans have changed.



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344. "im not reading anything by bruce hooley but thats what i mentioned above"
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this whole story defies logic but tressel taking the fall for a much bigger infraction seems to be the only somewhat rational explanation for all of this.

  

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345. "so basically he's still lying and is an even bigger cheater"
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lol that's the defense you guys have opted to take?

jesus.

no really, that's all i got.

jesus.

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346. "what was said above that reads like a 'defense' to you? "
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>lol that's the defense you guys have opted to take?
>
>jesus.
>
>no really, that's all i got.
>
>jesus.

are you being intentionally stupid or are you really this fucking retarded?

im not on trial here. try to get that through your DELUSIONAL ass.

  

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350. "RE: what was said above that reads like a 'defense' to you? "
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>are you being intentionally stupid or are you really this
>fucking retarded?
>
>im not on trial here. try to get that through your DELUSIONAL
>ass.
>

First of all, i'm not saying you are on trial. I'm saying you are an idiot. But that's besides the point.

I implied you were using the "taking the hit for something bigger" as a quasi-excuse/defense to justify Tressel's actions.

So settle it for me, because I might be wrong. Are you bringing this up (now for the second time in the thread) to:

(1) Furnish a possible excuse for Tressel's actions because he "fell on the sword" for bigger improprieties

(2) Outline a possible scenario where OSU is even dirtier more of a cheater

Because with that fact hypothetical it's one or the other. So tell me which one, please. Because if it's (a), then I was correct above before you called me a "retard" and that would be pretty embarrassing for you. And if it's (b) then I'm all good because you are apprehending what a dirty program OSU could be.

*Awaiting your reply*

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352. "RE: what was said above that reads like a 'defense' to you? "
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>
>First of all, i'm not saying you are on trial.

first of all, you really are. so calm the fuck down, sparky.

i proposed a rational possibility of what occurred.

read into that however you'd like.

  

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357. "teehee i win."
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363. "You hit a new low every time you hit post message"
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I feel sorry for the rest of the UM contingent on this board bc of you.

  

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366. "apparently theres much confusion over the definition of winning"
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in my estimation it looks something like this:

http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?gameId=303310194

repeat that 9x over

but yeah, im a tad delusional so...

  

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348. "you should read the article or at least this part:"
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"A brief exchange between a reporter and Tressel at the Tuesday press conference where OSU announced Tressel’s wrongdoing has given rise to one widespread, albeit implausible, explanation.

Tressel nodded affirmatively when asked if he had forwarded the emails from Cicero to anyone else at Ohio State. Smith quickly intervened before Tressel could say more and said the coach would not be permitted to answer because the matter involves an ongoing NCAA investigation."


Wow.. the fuck is Gene doing? Why wouldn't he let him answer? Hooley dismissed it because he thinks Tressel is more of a sacred cow than Smith and in one way he is. However, Hooley is overlooking how the scenario can play out if Tressel alone is at fault versus both Tressel & Smith which is nuclear holocaust type shit. If Tres takes the fall, Smith hits him w/a punishment (wink-wink) but all of them keep their jobs & limit the damage to the university.


I mean, Tressel is still on the hook for playing ineligible players & lying to the NCAA but it's definitely not implausible that Smith knew about this & was devising a cover up.



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349. "all of this is old news and has been discussed..."
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i think reading into the press conference behavior is a bit of a reach. i didnt happen to watch it. but people were discussing that exchange on the OSU boards. i think its much ado about nothing but whatever.


>I mean, Tressel is still on the hook for playing ineligible
>players & lying to the NCAA but it's definitely not
>implausible that Smith knew about this & was devising a cover
>up.

like i said maybe 100-200 replies up...i think the idea that this stayed between tressel, the players and the lawyer is highly unlikely.

i dont think any of us really have half a clue about what went on and i dont think we ever will. all i know is im ready for kickoff...or at least ready for the next big program to have their ass exposed.

  

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351. "maybe Tressel nodding can be misinterpreted but why wouldn't"
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Gene let him answer that question? That's suspect as hell. I also didn't think it was probable that Tressel knew this in April & no one else in the department found out about it.

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353. "RE: maybe Tressel nodding can be misinterpreted but why wouldn't"
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>Gene let him answer that question?

i dunno. like i said i didnt watch it. from all accounts the PC was a clusterfuck so i would just concede it as that. osu will take a massive PR hit but we'll be alright on the field in the long run and thats all that really matters.

>Gene knew man... he covering his ass...

gene also sat on the ncaa infractions committee and im sure knows what kind of punishment osu would likely get. and im sure they worked that out with the ncaa all along.

  

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354. "also on this note"
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>I
>also didn't think it was probable that Tressel knew this in
>April & no one else in the department found out about it.

its highly unlikely that emails go directly to tressel. im sure he has a gatekeeper. and this lawyer was not a friend of the program as some may be thinking. so even more reason he wouldnt be the first to read it.

you send an email to his public account, you may as well be sending that shit to the world.

  

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367. "hooley is supposedly getting canned by 97.1 The Fan"
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for his over the top coverage of this incident

you can anoint him and herbie into okp martyrdom.

  

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347. "Ohio State fans are giving Kentucky fans a run for their money in here."
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359. "the parallels are uncanny"
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nm

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396. "I now see where you're coming form on that"
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http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=1711379&mesg_id=1711379&page=#1711651

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365. "ARCHIVE"
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368. "co-sign"
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369. "Nah.. keep it open until the NCAA releases their findings"
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370. "Oh, not now, just getting it in there"
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Don't actually close the post until you and 3x stop bringing the funny.

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371. "or when Tressel's career is over..nm"
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372. ""could be over""
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373. "some internet people no longer like him"
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375. "http://www.covershut.com/covers/Tammy-Wynette-Stand-By-Your-Man-Front-Co..."
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376. "reality can be a bitter pill"
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sorry

  

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388. "lol meanwhile in Baton Rouge...."
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http://content.usatoday.com/communities/campusrivalry/post/2011/03/lsu-ncaa-investigation-will-lyles-recruiting-service/1

Oregon isn't the only football program coming under scrutiny for using the scouting service run by Will Lyles.

LSU is now under the NCAA microscope. The school confirmed to Foxsports.com that the school paid $6,000 in December to Complete Scouting Services. Earlier this month, Oregon had confirmed paying $25,000 to the Houston-based company connected to Lyles.

Lyles has drawn attention from the NCAA for his relationship with high school athletes. He served as a mentor to running back Lache Seastrunk, who redshirted this past season in Oregon after signing in 2010. LSU also recruited Seastrunk, the No. 3 tailback in the nation in 2010 and a cousin of LSU freshman tailback Michael Ford.

Citing a person close to the situation, Foxsports.com reported two NCAA investigators interviewed Trevon Randle, who signed with LSU last month, about his contact with Lyles.

The story said LSU assistant coach Brick Haley accompanied Lyles to Clear Springs High in the spring of 2010 to talk to Clear Springs coach Clint Hartman about Randle and that NCAA investigators have also interviewed Hartman and Randle's father Raymond Edwards.

Randle said he consulted with his parents before choosing LSU and that his father is "pretty tight" with Lyles. Randle said he later spent time with Lyles at LSU summer camps.

"Now, that's a funny guy right there," Randle said of Lyles. "That guy right there, he can eat. He knows about every restaurant in Baton Rouge, and he introduced me to all of them. If it wasn't for him, I wouldn't know anything about the food places down there.

LSU would be guilty of breaking NCAA recruiting rules if Lyles helped steer Randle to LSU.

"No, I cannot say anything about that," Haley said in a phone interview with Gannett Louisiana on Tuesday when asked how well he knew Lyles. "Michael Bonnette is handling that. We've been told not to say anything about it."

Michael Bonnette, LSU's football sports information director, said Tigers coach Les Miles and assistant coaches know Lyles but he doesn't know how well.

"I don't know how to characterize their relationship," Bonnette said Tuesday. "I know LSU paid Complete Scouting Services and received film of players and other information or data. That's commonly what the LSU coaches get from the recruiting services - film, statistics."

Bonnette said LSU no longer uses Lyles' scouting service but did not explain why.

Contributing: Glenn Guilbeau, Gannett Louisiana

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374. "buffoonery"
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tha fuck is going on in Columbus? y'all are crazy as hell

  

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378. "utter and total.. lol"
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379. "crazy fans? should we talk about what went on in the stands"
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>tha fuck is going on in Columbus? y'all are crazy as hell

and around the stadium during and after the NC in 2007?

no, dont think you wanna talk about that. because crazy wouldnt be the word to describe it. it was by far the worst fan behavior ive ever witnessed at any sporting event in my entire life.

if youre a UF fan or PSU fan, you should really forever STFU about fan behavior.

  

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383. "add Wisconsin and LSU to that list as well"
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>>tha fuck is going on in Columbus? y'all are crazy as hell
>
>and around the stadium during and after the NC in 2007?
>
>no, dont think you wanna talk about that. because crazy
>wouldnt be the word to describe it. it was by far the worst
>fan behavior ive ever witnessed at any sporting event in my
>entire life.
>
>if youre a UF fan or PSU fan, you should really forever STFU
>about fan behavior.

SC and Oregon fans were cool tho..at least in my experience...

edit, and Texas fans were great...I hope we get another home and home with them in my lifetime
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380. "fans of schools who have done dirt putting down OSU who has done dirt"
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is what this whole bullshit sanctimonious post has become

the only thing that pisses me off is the whole wholesome sweatervest Christian bullshit schtick that people elevated to a higher standard over others

other than that, shit everyone does dirt, that counts in the world of "Amateur" lulz athletics

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381. "It's not that.. it's denying the dirt when it's your turn..."
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382. "yup he still on it too (quoting Bush) lol "
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>
>the only thing that pisses me off is the whole wholesome
>sweatervest Christian bullshit schtick that people elevated to
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384. "that, and acknowledgement that it's a joke that he's still employed"
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unless, of course, he's part of some highly top secret investigation for which he couldn't reveal himself earlier on.

(lolz)

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386. "he's done enough good in the community to get a mulligan"
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>unless, of course, he's part of some highly top secret
>investigation for which he couldn't reveal himself earlier
>on.
>
>(lolz)

if you're inclined you can look up the graduation rates, and the number academic all americans that he's produced compared to his predecessor...

he lied to the NCAA, he'll get punished. and if he does it again, he'll get the axe.

not sure how much simpler it can get...he didnt pay 200k for a recruit nor is there any academic fraud going on...

and lol @ people harping on the 375 minor/secondary infractions reported...the NCAA looked into it...nothing ever came of them...so whats the problem?
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392. "yeah no."
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you LIE in a serious investigation (not only was he involved, but he LIED about it) you get fired, period.

But it's college football and Tressel wins games so they'll rationalize not firing him, just like you are.

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393. "RE: yeah no."
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>you LIE in a serious investigation (not only was he involved

how was he involved? did he go to the tattoo shop with the kids. did he set him up with the shop owner?

,
>but he LIED about it) you get fired, period.

and what makes you such an expert on protocol in this situation? because you read a quick blurb about what happened at a bunch of other institutions? you have such strong opinions on this yet you can't even name the details of the cases that you're comparing it to.

>But it's college football and Tressel wins games

and this is why you're out to lunch.

>so they'll
>rationalize not firing him, just like you are.

why does it bother you so much that OSU fans dont want to see him fired. i mean, you claim to not even be a cfb fan yet we're in this shit a week later and you're still heated about this. that's weird.

got any thoughts on the security of brian kelly's position at ND? you know, the coach that sent a student assistant up onto a tower to film practice during a hurricane and then fell to his death? no, let's keep wanking off about free tats...

  

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395. "But what if Brian Kelly did good work in the community, like the Vest?"
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Then is it ok?

But nah, Kelly should've been fired. Another hypocrisy accusation from you fails.

By any reasonable standard, a college coach knowingly lies in an investigation, he should be fired.

Not only am I not mad that OSU fans can't grasp this, I honestly enjoy it at this point. It makes this debacle more entertaining.

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397. "RE: But what if Brian Kelly did good work in the community, like the Ves..."
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>Then is it ok?

what? when did i say that would be ok? thats you being a total prick and answering your own questions for me. it's clear that you're gonna paint this picture in the manner of your own choosing.

if tressel's transgressions involved the death of a student or player or the cover-up of a violent crime, this conversation would be much different and the OSU fanbase would be holding much different expectations in regards to tressel's future employment. but youre apparently far too dense to grasp this very simple reality.


>
>But nah, Kelly should've been fired. Another hypocrisy
>accusation from you fails.
>
>By any reasonable standard, a college coach knowingly lies in
>an investigation, he should be fired.

aka youre as full of shit now as you have been on this entire issue from the beginning. you have zero expertise or perspective, and you cant even bother yourself to take a look at the details of the cases which you've been yapping about for over a week now.

>
>Not only am I not mad

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399. "lol."
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>aka youre as full of shit now as you have been on this entire
>issue from the beginning. you have zero expertise or
>perspective, and you cant even bother yourself to take a look
>at the details of the cases which you've been yapping about
>for over a week now.

If you want to prove that Tressel is somehow *unique and unlike* the 11 of 12 coaches (90%!!) who were fired for ethical violations or lying to the NCAA (which Tressel basically did), go for it. Dez Bryant would love to hear why Tressel is special.

Otherwise I'll sit here on the side of common sense and reasonable standards.

Let me know when there's anyone other than OSU alum on your side.

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405. "RE: lol."
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>If you want to prove that Tressel

this is your argument to prove, not mine.

you wanna hold this up as your trump card, id think you'd at least have some details about it...hell, what happened in the one instance case where the coach wasn't fired? did you piss and moan incessantly about that too?

you're saying he HAS to be fired and that there was a 'precedent' set...except there also seems to be a precedent to end up on the other side as well.

>Dez Bryant would love to hear why
>Tressel is special.

the ncaa hands out punishment in a capricious fashion?!?!? coaches get more leniency than players?!?! wow dude, youre really bringing some earth shattering info to the forefront.

we all know that the ncaa is corrupt and inept and completely confusing. we can sit here and discuss inconsistent penalties handed out by the NCAA for the next year.


>Otherwise I'll sit here on the side of common sense and reasonable >standards.

you'll err ont the side of sitting behind a keyboard and claiming to know how to run a major DI athletic department. great.

>Let me know when there's anyone other than OSU alum on your
>side.

outside of okp world i dont know anyone still talking about this shit, and to a much, much lesser extent still discussing tressel's coaching status, lol. again, if your squad isnt playing against tressel, i dont see why you would care.

  

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401. "It really does."
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>It makes this debacle more
>entertaining.

  

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446. "HAHAHAHAHAHAHA ARCHIVE"
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459. "http://i30.tinypic.com/2rolrm1.jpg"
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461. "^still ironing his Evan Royster jersey."
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385. "that's the entire point, in other situations OSU & Tressel pretended"
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their hands were clean, despite all the Clarrett shit, the 'Thad 5', the numerous other minor incidents adding to that 378 number, etc.

OSU fans touted their 'clean' program as if it was a reality & Tressell tried to snow everyone with his bible-thumping bullshit only to be exposed as a far bigger hypocrite than guys like John Calipari.

That is why this is hilarious & while I can't speak for anyone else's motivations is why I'm in this post pointing and laughing.

  

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387. "lol, oh...now basketball has something to do with this?"
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do tell..this should be good.


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389. "yes, I'm sure that recruiting class was brought in on the up & up "
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while being represented by Conley's pop immediately after bouncing.

I'm sure Lance Armstrong is clean too because he's never failed a drug test.

  

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390. "so in other words...you have nothing. carry on."
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391. "I don't need anything, that's the point, odds are in my favor"
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it's extremely unlikely Ohio State (who'd been largely irrelevant in basketball for a decade) got that class without some degree of cheating.

Whoopty-damn-do(c)Derrick Coleman.

I'm not the one touting the virtues of a 'clean' program like y'all did with Tressell before this mess.

I like to live in reality.

  

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394. "there's a level of cheating at ALL programs....nobody denied that"
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>
>I'm not the one touting the virtues of a 'clean' program like
>y'all did with Tressell before this mess.
>
>I like to live in reality.

certain programs take it to extraordinary levels.

im sure this isnt the first cover up at OSU and im sure it wont be the last. coaches doing whatever they can to keep their star players eligible? unheard of...really.

bringing that matta's class from 6 years ago into this is laughable. if the goal is prolonging the replies to this thread into the 1000's, then i suppose that's a good strategy.

and given how far up OSU's ass the NCAA has been over the past decade, media included...if there's more dirt to found than it wouldve been found and it will be found now. kinda like what happened with SC. once they started digging the roof fell off...

  

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406. "The funny part is youve convinced yourself you made a valid point"
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Conley Sr didnt receive his certification to be an agent until well after they both declared their intentions to go pro...

until then he was just Mike Conley Sr who's son happened to be best friends and on the same team with the #1 overall recruit in the country...

Indiana was on probation, and Matta having been at Butler and Xavier has many ties to the Hoosier state...its not really that far fetched...but you can cook up whatever silly little theories you like...its your prerogative (c) Bobby B

>it's extremely unlikely Ohio State (who'd been largely
>irrelevant in basketball for a decade) got that class without
>some degree of cheating.

Cook and Lighty are Dayton and Cleveland natives....(OMGGG!!!! kids from Ohio want to play for Ohio State! there has to be something fishy there!)

and Othello Hunter was a JUCO transfer who was hardly touted as anything but a role player.
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410. "it's not an open-and-shut case like Tressell's hypocritical ho ass"
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I'm just saying I'm on Ms Melodie status with Matta as well, that being exposed down the line won't surprise me in the slighest.

But I realize that's unfair to your 'clean' program, so we can leave it here.

  

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407. "the Sixers-First year Heat fan is just starving for attention"
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biggest joke in the history of okaysports and it starts with that Bomb-Ass screen-name

  

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400. "Wild (4) Hunneds "
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402. "If this was an SEC school it's be at 12,000 posts"
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404. "Damn, we cant even beat SEC schools at post counts?"
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*rimshot*


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403. "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUNSxRJfwyM"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUNSxRJfwyM

  

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408. "Tressel stays classy backing his players and making haters mad"
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Self-imposed 5 game suspension to support his players.

Start crying and stay mad!!!!

This goes to show what a class act he is.

http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/sports/stories/2011/03/17/0317-ncaa-hands-down-decision-on-ohio-state.html?sid=101

  

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409. "So? Your program's still dirty."
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411. "keep hating I'm proud to be a Buckeye"
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412. "Some people value integrity, some people don't."
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*shrug*

  

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413. "I worked hard for the diploma on my wall "
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it represents a great deal of integrity.

Some people care more about judging others than their own personal success

  

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416. "If that's really the case..."
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>it represents a great deal of integrity.

...then one would think you'd be a lot more upset about the unethical behavior of others bringing that integrity into question.

>Some people care more about judging others than their own
>personal success

Um, I have a college diploma too.

  

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417. "I'm not concerned with the negativity on okayplayer"
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I'm still proud to be a Buckeye at the end of the day. Sorry you're frustrations don't personally effect me.

  

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420. "You sure you got that diploma?"
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>Sorry
>you're frustrations don't personally effect me.

"your" and "affect"

Or does OSU no longer require freshman comp?








Eh. Cheap shot.

  

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421. "you got me"
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I've already logged in 50+ hours this week in front of a computer screen at work.

No clue why I'm unwinding on okp tonight but I'm hardly seeing straight

  

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434. "Lol..more like pathetic. "
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I'd expect better from a UVA grad.


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439. "You're welcome to try to match wits with me anytime."
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445. "didnt one of their lax players murder another student last year?"
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>I'd expect better from a UVA grad.

  

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414. "if we somehow get through the first 5 unscathed...and I think we do"
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and tressel and company's first game back at the 'shoe is against wisconsin...holy shit that's gonna be a scene.

  

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415. "First game back is Nebraska, first home game is Wisconsin"
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He voluntarily gave up Colorado, @ The U, and Michigan St

  

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418. "nebraska is away"
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so wisconsin will be the first home game for tressel and the suspended players

as if playing wisky wasn't enough motivation...crowd is gonna be ape shit.

hopefully ill be there having fun...i expect a lot of okp people sitting at home being very, very mad. and posting lots about it.

  

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419. "Oh damn I'm booking my hotel this week "
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you know every hotel in the city will be booked.

I may head to Miami this year too just because

  

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422. "if they make that shit a night game"
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it'll be bigger than texas '05 and usc '09. and those were some sick ass games (despite the outcome).

man im pumped for this season.

  

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425. "I'm not a fan of night games personally"
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I'd rather have a 3:30 game

  

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426. "the wait sucks...the day drags on forever"
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but you cant beat the night environment

as live as michigan '06 was i still dont think it was seeing the sc or texas games

  

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430. "I always get the itch and hit a tailgate by 1 or 2"
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by kick off I might as well not go in the game because I'm not in the right frame of mind

  

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440. "you'll have to wake up early"
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if herbie is on campus for espn gameday

AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW SHIT

  

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431. "If you are talking about Lincoln, you better start early"
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otherwise you will be lucky if you find a room in Omaha 45 minutes away

<-Fear Ameer

  

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433. "No I was talking Columbus for the Wisconsin game"
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There are only 3 hotels in the city I stay at and they always book fast

  

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423. "That's not class"
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Real class would have been taking 5 games from the outset. Instead he tried to weasel his way into the public's heart via a press conference featuring so much spin even the podium got dizzy.

It was only after the press conference was deemed by the national media as a PR disaster -- no shitstorm -- and he took MASSIVE heat for his deception and clear lies that he took the extended 5 game suspension.

Don't delude yourself into thinking he did this out of class and team unity. If you actually think so, your baseline intelligence as a member of the human race is immediately called into question. This is merely Act 2 of Tressel/OSU's attempt to stem the bleeding and a last-ditch effort to con the NCAA into sympathy before the hammer comes crashing down.

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424. "All good if my team lost to him year after year I'd be mad too"
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429. "I'm not mad... I *WANT* Tressel to stay"
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in the sense that I want Michigan to get a crack at beating *him* a few times.

But objectively speaking, to say that this isn't a cheap ploy is to distort the plain facts before you. He lied, got caught, and is trying to use tactical manipulation to minimize the damage. Hell, I can't say I wouldn't do the same thing.

But it's pretty transparent. Don't kid yourself. There is an endemic, institutional lack of integrity at OSU athletics right now. But in the end, it's a sad problem that canvasses most of the NCAA probably.

It is what it is. Don't spin it. Don't say I'm mad. Just leave this post with whatever credibility you have remaining as a semi-functioning person.

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427. "that's *all* it is."
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>last-ditch effort to con
>the NCAA into sympathy before the hammer comes crashing down.

Ohio State realized their press conference full of awkward joking, stumbling replies and Dubya quotes was not a good look. this is a preemptive strike against themselves in the hopes that the NCAA doesn't go further.

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444. "basically, although Tressell still can't even really own it"
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428. "if anybody needs a cliffs notes for this entire thread"
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posts #423 and #424 should tell you just about everything that you need

  

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432. "Whatever it is, he isn't gonna lose his job."
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The penalties won't be as harsh as you're praying for every night.

And you will graduate without ever seeing a win over us.

Cry.
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435. "1) I don't personally want him to lose his job (see above)"
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2) I do, however, *think* he will -- and probably *should*-- lose his job
3) Your program still oozes of deceit, corruption, and scandal. Ask anyone other than your insular group of semi-retarded bucknuts. Cry.

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436. "at least our coach didn't cheat and break practice violations"
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Much worse than young players getting tattoos on their own free time

Keep Crying

  

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438. "improper benefits is orders of mag more serious than stretchgate"
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cmon

  

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441. "why is it always just about 'stretching'? lol"
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who knows what dick rod couldve been using all that extra practice time for?

based on gameday results it certainly wasn't football related, but still...we're making big assumptions here.

  

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466. "im not making assumptions, ive actually read the documentation"
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and it was off season conditioning conducted by QC staffers, something RR had nothing to do with

which is why the NCAA cleared him of failure to promote an atmosphere of compliance.

something that is unlikely to happen with Tressel given his participation in a cover-up

  

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472. "RE: im not making assumptions, ive actually read the documentation"
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>and it was off season conditioning conducted by QC staffers

which entails more than just stretching.

if denard got in 5 extra sets of squats that's some bullshit and it had a direct impact on the outcome of the game (unlike free tats). fortunately for the majority of the big 10, denard's genetically waifish frame cannot be overcome by extra and illegal time spent in the weightroom. barwis and a lifetime supply of chocolate milk can't change the fact that denard is a pussy playing in the wrong conference.


>something RR had nothing to do with

he runs the program. he's responsible for everything. i wish he stayed.


  

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477. "lol, cmon"
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>if denard got in 5 extra sets of squats that's some bullshit
>and it had a direct impact on the outcome of the game

you do know that players are allowed to lilft weights as much as they want right?

>(unlike
>free tats).

so a current player telling a recruit that they can make money selling their shit doesnt influence recruiting? like i said, improper benefits. the 5 brainiacs who got caught are lucky they still hae amateur status.

>fortunately for the majority of the big 10,
>denard's genetically waifish frame cannot be overcome by extra
>and illegal time spent in the weightroom. barwis and a
>lifetime supply of chocolate milk can't change the fact that
>denard is a pussy playing in the wrong conference.

and there it is, the point where your emotions have run amok and you lose your ability to talk about something in a relatively objective manner.

>he runs the program. he's responsible for everything.

which is why he was cited for failing to properly oversee. the head coach doesnt have time to make sure that every CARA form is signed and properly filed. however, he does need to make sure that everyone is doing their jobs. the QC/compliance people that specifically worked for football did not.

and after you get a taste of hoke-a-mania you'll be glad RR is gone. because michigan is looking at at least 3 fewer wins with hoke than they would have had with RR

  

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479. "RE: lol, cmon"
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>
>>if denard got in 5 extra sets of squats that's some bullshit
>>and it had a direct impact on the outcome of the game
>
>you do know that players are allowed to lilft weights as much
>as they want right?

not supervised by a strength coach.

#1 complaint of college strength coaches (except the ones at michigan, of course) is that they don't get enough time with the players.

>
>>(unlike
>>free tats).
>
>so a current player telling a recruit that they can make money
>selling their shit doesnt influence recruiting? like i said,
>improper benefits.

in a general sense, yeah it does, and i understand why this rule is in place despite it being rather silly in theory. but you cant apply this to just OSU (it's not as if players dont have the same opportunities elsewhere).

in the case of the tat 5, it didnt impact anything that took place on the field. whereas extra stretching, running, lifting or what have you obviously gives a team an on-field advantage.

>
>>fortunately for the majority of the big 10,
>>denard's genetically waifish frame cannot be overcome by
>extra
>>and illegal time spent in the weightroom. barwis and a
>>lifetime supply of chocolate milk can't change the fact that
>>denard is a pussy playing in the wrong conference.
>
>and there it is, the point where your emotions have run amok
>and you lose your ability to talk about something in a
>relatively objective manner.

i was really hoping you could detect the levity in the above response.

i didnt think the extra practice time stuff was a big deal back when it happened and i dont feel any differently now. i was just breaking balls over referring to it merely as 'stretching'.

in the same way im not bothered by the practice time infractions im also not all that bothered by the tattoo nonsense.


>and after you get a taste of hoke-a-mania you'll be glad RR is
>gone. because michigan is looking at at least 3 fewer wins
>with hoke than they would have had with RR

it will work out in the long run. he's at least already targeting recruits that can actually play at this level. he's catching a break because he's coming into a year where there's TONS of talent in ohio...and OSU has limited scholies to give out. michigan should land some decent players from ohio which hasnt happened in quite some time. dick rod wasnt even going after players that were worthy of OSU scholarships.

  

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443. "are you really that dumb?"
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>Much worse than young players getting tattoos on their own
>free time
>
>Keep Crying

You are making a faulty, irrational comparison here. The violation has nothing to do with "young players getting tattoos on their own." Even operating under the assumption that the head coach of your football team did not engage in a systematic coverup of major NCAA violations, the players were not just "getting tattoos on their own free time" -- they were getting tattoos in exchange for official OSU sports memorabilia, which is a blatant violation of NCAA rules.

But even THAT isn't so bad. It has nothing to do with the tattoos. It has everything to do with a) lying about it, b) covering it up, and c) trying to weasel out of a fair punishment using deceitful tactics

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452. "take all the extra illegal practices you want your team needs it"
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437. "You prob won't ever see a win over us again in hoops either"
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Ouch.

Your school's corruption led to you getting a death penalty. None of us care about your self righteous bullshit.

Hope that snitch blows you hoes out by 50 points. Maybe if you sign Anthony Mason Jr and Rex Chapman Jr to help those other bums you'd have a halfway decent team.
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442. "you've become a sad caricature of yourself"
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you must lead an equally sad life.

i seriously hope things get better for you.

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450. "Matta 14-2, Tressel 9-1. bye loser."
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>you must lead an equally sad life.
>
>i seriously hope things get better for you.


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447. "HAHAHA EVEN KARL ROVE AINT SPIN THIS HARD"
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448. "wait, you actually believe that don't you?"
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What's the point in even arguing with someone who buys shit like that?

It's like reasoning with a third grader. I try every day, it's damn near impossible.

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449. "I wonder if guru & 3x resent that they have to vouch for that idiot here"
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451. "he's the brown sugar of osu fans"
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<-- BAUGH SO HARD

  

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456. "lol!!!!"
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463. "damn, you're really really selling yourself short there"
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453. "still trolling I see you're like the energizer bunny "
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454. "not at all"
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radin's cool by me

  

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455. "Dude is a die hard Sixers- first year die hard Miami Heat fan"
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I pay little attention to anything he says because it's all agenda based in an attempt to get a rise out of people.

Just a month ago in a different thread he tried to argue how people on okaysports dont care about college sports. Yet here he is trolling up and down this thread screaming for attention

  

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470. "im oblivious to the happenings in nba threads"
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as a knick fan, i had to take a little hiatus from the nba. if bombastic is really repping the heat that's some sad shit.

i dont mind his antics cause i know he's just stirring the pot and doesnt really give a shit about this.

compared to say, ummmm, brown sugar who has started about 1,329 OSU threads in his illustrious posting career and is obviously putting genuine effort and emotion into his posts. he's mad as hell.

if you're still butthurt over JT lying about some free tats 2 weeks after the fact then you have serious problems.

  

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474. "why the hell would i be mad?"
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this shit is hilarious... tattoo scandal... drug bust... "confidentiality"... embarrassing press conference.... schmuck lawyer..... i couldn't DREAM of a more ridiculous tumble of my school's arch rival.

i'm not mad... i'm laughing harder at you and your school than I ever have.

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475. "yeah...we don't believe you...sorry"
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even the non-osu fans see it

  

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478. "RE: im oblivious to the happenings in nba threads"
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>as a knick fan, i had to take a little hiatus from the nba.
>if bombastic is really repping the heat that's some sad shit.
>
uh, yeah, that's not actually happening at all.

  

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508. "he's posted numerous times that no one cares about OSU/ college sports"
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Yet he has more posts in this thread than I do. Notice all he ever has to say is you're mad and gets frustrated when I counter to prove why I am smiling from ear to ear.


That coupled with him in every Miami Heat post repping the team like they're his own. The clown is the premier troll of the sports forum

  

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458. "Nope."
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462. "better y'all than me"
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464. "You have the other troll with the pink avatar in your corner"
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It's hard to say who's more desperate for attention

  

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465. "I enjoy talking about retards more than w/them, go find a buddy ur speed"
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476. "Here's your 15 seconds of attention"
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Do you feel better about yourself now?

If so find something else to irrationally hate on

  

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457. "http://oi53.tinypic.com/1zo7wqe.jpg"
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http://oi53.tinypic.com/1zo7wqe.jpg

  

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460. "More proof that no sport causes more crazy than NCAA football."
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There's nothing more challenging than getting a college football fan to say something bad about his program of choice.

Don't know if that means the sport is the most awesome or the most batshit. Or both.

No wonder the powers-that-be don't want a tournament. Money aside, it would actually cause mafia dons to put hits on college students and possibly the suicide bombing of an entire team's locker room. Best to do one game for each team and pray no one gets murdered by a John Hinckley Jr. lookalike donning the jersey of a famous alumni.

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467. "*shrug* when practice gate first came out i was the first"
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to say that rich rod should be fired *if* all the sensationalized reports were true and michigan was guilty of the multiple major violations described in the report.

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468. "Well, and I honestly don't mean this in a patronizing way..."
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...Michigan has struggled so consistently to compete with the upper echelon recently that it's hard for you guys to have the blind delusion and swagger of the fans of upper echelon programs like OSU/USC/all SEC teams. So it's harder to be so crazed when you're used to losing to that top tier.

I know that sounds really patronizing, but I honestly don't mean it that way, lol.

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473. "^^^^^Frank gettin his 'Mike Garrett' on"
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good man

  

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481. "LMAO @ "all SEC teams""
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2 losing seasons does not mean that the *program* is somehow a lesser entity

however, hiring a fat idiot with a sub-.500 record at mid majors might...

  

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485. "Michigan :Specializing in desperation hire after desperation hire"
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>however, hiring a fat idiot with a sub-.500 record at mid
>majors might...

at least he went from a mid major to another mid major though, he should be used to it.


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492. "Rich Rod wasnt a desperate hire...Hoke was tho"
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Rich Rod will coach somewhere else and be very good

  

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488. "its been 3 seasons"
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>2 losing seasons does not mean that the *program* is somehow
>a lesser entity

and calling them 'losing' seasons would be an understatement...they've been epically, historically bad.

so unbelievably bad, that yes, michigan is now a 'lesser entity'...demonstrated by the fact that nobody of note wanted to coach there.

  

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491. "on what planet is 7-6 a losing season?"
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and i dont know who wanted to coach there, they were set on a "Michigan Man"

well they got him, and i think its gonna suck

  

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494. "geezus we've been over this to death"
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your wins were over nothing opponents

what was mich's big 10 record this year?

or rather, what was mich's big 10 record under dick rod? 3 total wins or some shit? or 4?

that right there is why michigan is now known as a lesser entity. they couldnt even hang in the big 10...where the level of play isnt considered to be all that great to begin with.

and the last 'successful' season included a loss at home to app st.

again, your program is hot garbage and is considered as such by everyone, not just hatin OSU fans.

  

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469. "except all of the osu fans here agreed JT fucked up but overall i agree"
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>There's nothing more challenging than getting a college
>football fan to say something bad about his program of
>choice.
>
>Don't know if that means the sport is the most awesome or the
>most batshit. Or both.

everyone's program is dirty except their own. thats generally how it is. and if they're an absolutely pathetic, LOSER program like michigan then you're gonna get a whole lot more of that. but college fans are absolutely bat shit. i feel bad for the sad sack, jealous east coasters in this thread that have never been a part of it.

anyway, id like to make this the official thread for the 2011 OSU season. i see a big year coming up.

  

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471. "Tressel might not have to get on a plane to land a top 5 class"
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>anyway, id like to make this the official thread for the 2011
>OSU season. i see a big year coming up.
>

2012 is looking *retarded* in high school talent within the state...

and of course a few top flight players from Pennsylvania who dont wanna play for a vegetable head coach
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480. "damn you went there lol"
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>
>and of course a few top flight players from Pennsylvania who
>dont wanna play for a vegetable head coach
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486. "JoePa = good at not dying and winning meaningless games"
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482. "the whole Midwest for some reason is going to be nuts"
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Michigan is going to have 4 or 5 5*'s its looking like and then a number of 4's

  

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483. "lol so mad."
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>>and if they're an absolutely pathetic, LOSER
>program like michigan then you're gonna get a whole lot more
>of that.

tears of anger were prob welling up when you had to revert to all caps.

pathetic, loser program huh? you guys have def had a good run, but can you remind me the all time series record? lmaoooooo

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484. "this post is filled with so many examples of battered women syndrome"
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487. "Good show guys, this post has and will continue to entertain me...."
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489. "^^"
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490. "so do Buckeye fans expect Tressel back for Nebraska?"
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with the 5 making their introduction to the season?

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493. "yes"
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496. "I have a nagging feeling he's suspended the entire year...*shrug*"
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but thats just me...if not the entire season...at least 6 to 8..

I think we lose at Lincoln but finish well enough to smell roses...(including the annual michigan curb stomping)


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497. "that's what I think as well"
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it's going to be the whole year

people are tossing out losing his recruiting privileges for a year and a one year postseason ban, but I don't see the former happening ever, and the latter, is a possibility, but not likely. I don't see any sort of "lack of institutional control" labels or anything.

I wouldn't commit yourself to a loss yet, the offense is being overhauled and a QB is still to be determined, plus there is no depth at RB and the WR group as a whole is below average.

On defense though, no such issues exist. Only real concern is finding a DE to replace Pierre Allen, loaded at LB and the secondary.


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498. "I would commit yourself to 250-300 a ticket on up"
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if you want to see the game from outside an end zone in Lincoln

Especially if both teams take care of business, I'd imagine the spectacle of Game Day is probably there, if they pass up the Red River Rivalry that day.

Florida v. LSU also rates but...prolly not likely

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499. "I'm debating between the Nebraska game or the game @ Miami"
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but since the Tat5 are suspended..that game is looking less appealing..esp since Ill be in FLA later this summer anyway...

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501. "I'm 50/50 for Miami and definite for Wisconsin"
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513. "*IF* Tressel is back for Wisconsin, I dont think I have a choice"
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502. "lol, what tabloid site did u read this on?"
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>people are tossing out losing his recruiting privileges for a
>year and a one year postseason ban

  

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503. "those penalties would really piss me off...but I dont see it either..nm"
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505. "I don't even remember, just bouncing around the sports sites"
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it wasn't some random blog, but can I say it wasn't some sportswriter throwing shit against the wall until something sticks? no I can't

they are also tossing around the Gene Stallings case as well

like I said just random shit I have read, nothing to get worked up over

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495. "Hold up, Tressel's suspension goes to 5 games AFTER OSUs appeal"
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to reduce the players 5 game suspension was denied? cmon son....

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509. "lol Mike Bianchi of Orlando thinks Meyer will coach TOSU in 2012"
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http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/sports_bianchi/2011/03/in-wake-of-bruce-pearl-firing-urban-meyer-will-replace-jim-tressel-at-ohio-state.html

Now that Tennessee has fired Bruce Pearl, isn’t it only a matter of time before Jim Tressel resigns at Ohio State and former Florida Gators coach Urban Meyer takes over?

I am convinced of it.

Obviously Meyer wants to decompress, take some time off from coaching and spend some quality time with his family. And he will get a chance to do just that this season while the vultures circle Tressel at Ohio State. With Tennessee firing basketball coach Bruce Pearl on Monday for similar transgressions to Tressel’s, it’s inevitable that Ohio State will eventually pull the plug on Tressel, too.

Let’s face it, Tressel has lost all credibility and could face massive sanctions once the NCAA is done investigating his role in covering up violations by his players. If the NCAA hammer falls and the Buckeyes struggle this year (and you know they will with quarterback Terrelle Pryor and Tressel suspended for the first five games), the pressure will mount and Tressel will ultimately resign.

That’s when a refreshed Meyer will be ready to return to coaching and take over a program he rooted for as a kid. It’s common knowledge Meyer idolized Woody Hayes and grew up a huge Ohio State fan in Ashtabula, Ohio. His intense, conservative, no-nonsense approach to the game is a perfect fit for the Big Ten powerhouse Hayes built.

I believe Urban will be coaching Ohio State when the 2012 season commences, What about you?

If you have time, please vote in the poll below.

We will be discussing this topic, the firing of Bruce Pearl, the Gators and Seminoles in the NCAA Tournament, the Magic’s victory over the Cleveland Cavaliers and have an interview with Florida State football coach Jimbo Fisher on our “Open Mike” daily morning radio show today from 6 to 9 a.m. on 740-AM.

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512. "maybe in 2020"
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another out-of-state dummy that wants to play armchair AD

he's 'convinced' tressel is gonna be fired yet the entire state of ohio...players, players families, university and fans dont want him going anywhere. im sure gene smith will bend over for a bunch of vocal sports journalists.

  

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514. "Pearl being fired for lying is extremely bad timing/precedent for OSU.."
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515. "Not really, but whatever gets your hopes up of beating us this decade"
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517. "Hardly..its a stupid comparison bc its two entirely diff scenarios"
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Anyone who's remotely familiar with the Bruce Pearl saga can discern the differences.

bs, legacy and the other NCAA compliance experts in this thread can continue to pretend like they know what theyre talking about.

He isnt going anywhere, and you wont win against us for the remainder of this decade. Thats all it really boils down to.

I'll let you know what my feelings are once the NCAA hands out its verdict since you're so concerned.

But my mind is on Kentucky right now. Not Tressel-gate.


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524. "obviously no case is the same, but dont act like there are no parallels"
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>Anyone who's remotely familiar with the Bruce Pearl saga can
>discern the differences.

obviously. but they could also point out similarities. prior knowledge of violations. failure to report those violations, etc etc

>bs, legacy and the other NCAA compliance experts in this
>thread can continue to pretend like they know what theyre
>talking about.

no one is interpreting bylaws, they're just talking about precedents set in other cases. and in this day and age i think the collective of OKS probably has a pretty good handle on things like this.

>He isnt going anywhere, and you wont win against us for the
>remainder of this decade. Thats all it really boils down to.

cmon, save that for those who dont at least make an effort to speak objectively about both sides

>I'll let you know what my feelings are once the NCAA hands out
>its verdict since you're so concerned.

lol, im not concerned. give an opinion on it or dont, whatever. but constantly "reminding" ppl of how much better osu is than M on the field is pointless. we all watched the games and we all know the disparities between the two (which have widened since the dawn of Hokeamania imho), so hammering that fact looks real defensive.

>But my mind is on Kentucky right now. Not Tressel-gate.

lol, im sure the rest of the squad appreciates your single-minded focus

  

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527. "Lol, the parallels are irrelevant..each case is separate from the others"
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>>Anyone who's remotely familiar with the Bruce Pearl saga
>can
>>discern the differences.
>
>obviously. but they could also point out similarities. prior
>knowledge of violations. failure to report those violations,
>etc etc
>
>>bs, legacy and the other NCAA compliance experts in this
>>thread can continue to pretend like they know what theyre
>>talking about.

>no one is interpreting bylaws, they're just talking about
>precedents set in other cases. and in this day and age i
>think the collective of OKS probably has a pretty good handle
>on things like this.

you give them too much credit... alot of dumb mfers spouting alot of dumb shit in this thread...


>cmon, save that for those who dont at least make an effort to
>speak objectively about both sides

ok



>lol, im not concerned. give an opinion on it or dont,
>whatever. but constantly "reminding" ppl of how much better
>osu is than M on the field is pointless.

its fun though. especially to the retarded um fan in here acting as if a Big 10 offensive player of the year award is equivalent to a BCS bowl game win.


we all watched the
>games and we all know the disparities between the two (which
>have widened since the dawn of Hokeamania imho), so hammering
>that fact looks real defensive.


thats how you interpret it, thats fine. i just see it as talkin shit.


>lol, im sure the rest of the squad appreciates your
>single-minded focus


just sayin, the "ooh you worried/scared/mad now!" retort isnt really working.
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518. "you're extremely defensive...I mean I get it but I'm simply pointing out"
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what's going on in the NCAA landscape & how it plays into the OSU situation.


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lol well yea

>what's going on in the NCAA landscape & how it plays into the
>OSU situation.

it doesnt play. thats what im saying.



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520. "because you're assuming nothing else will be unearthed during a"
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NCAA investigation. I mean what are the chances that a school with 375 violations since 2000 has a few bodies buried? This is especially true since we know what they've done in the current situation. The NCAA could put OSU in a real bind that forces their hand...
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521. "this factoid is kinda frivolous "
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>a school
>with 375 violations since 2000

these are self-reported violations and given that breathing funny could be a ncaa offense (have you ever seen the ncaa rulebook?)...youre talking about mostly petty stuff. if OSU had 375 significant violations since 2000 then the program wouldve been given the death blow 10 years ago.

it just means OSU compliance is on their shit...or at least trying to be.

>The NCAA could put OSU in a real bind that
>forces their hand...

so the ncaa is gonna tell OSU 'you must fire tressel'? doesnt really work like that man...but keep wishing.

if the NCAA was determining tressels fate then all you dummies hollering about 'precedents' might have something of a point. but OSU determines tressel's fate and everyone at OSU is a JT fan so...

and on the one hand you're saying that tressel should be fired based soley on the pearl situation...but then youre saying that he should be fired based on all the other stuff that you're hoping/praying/wishing will come out. so you're kinda all over the map here.

long story short...tressel will be beating your ass in ann arbor come november as usual.

  

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522. "RE: this factoid is kinda frivolous "
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>>a school
>>with 375 violations since 2000
>
>these are self-reported violations and given that breathing
>funny could be a ncaa offense (have you ever seen the ncaa
>rulebook?)...youre talking about mostly petty stuff. if OSU
>had 375 significant violations since 2000 then the program
>wouldve been given the death blow 10 years ago.


AND TOSU sponsors 38 different D1 athletic programs. The most for any school in the country. if you have more sports, youre gonna have more secondary violations, and these violations occur at EVERY school so spare me the righteous bullshit. Those violations were reported in 17 different programs ASIDES from football. Not to mention the NCAA lifted up every single rock and stone in the Mo-C allegations and nothing was uncovered. I'm not worried about so called "bodies".


>it just means OSU compliance is on their shit...or at least
>trying to be.
>
>>The NCAA could put OSU in a real bind that
>>forces their hand...
>
>so the ncaa is gonna tell OSU 'you must fire tressel'? doesnt
>really work like that man...but keep wishing.

Exactly, coaches are fired for their actions. Not the penalties that ensue. If that was the case, the NCAA would have forced USC to fire Cheatey Petey before he ran like a coward to Seattle. The NCAA can ban coaches altogether, but you'd have to be a repeat dumb ass like Kelvin Sampson to get that type of death blow.


>if the NCAA was determining tressels fate then all you dummies
>hollering about 'precedents' might have something of a point.
>but OSU determines tressel's fate and everyone at OSU is a JT
>fan so...

I'm convinced they don't know the meaning of the word precedent. I mean you have people comparing egregious academic fraud on behalf of Arkansas State (lofl) and FSU to this.

>and on the one hand you're saying that tressel should be fired
>based soley on the pearl situation...


the Buckeyebattlecry actually broke down the differences between the two cases pretty succinctly....


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Jim Tressel is currently under investigation for a violation of Rule 10.1 for unethical conduct, and has been suspended for part of the upcoming season. Tennessee basketball coach Bruce Pearl is also under investigation for a 10.1 violation and was also suspended for part of this past season, and was yesterday fired by the University of Tennessee. Therefore, Jim Tressel will also be fired.

I’m sorry, but it’s not that simple.

First, it should be noted that the violations under critique are significantly different based mostly on the magnitude. For Jim Tressel, the investigation and consequences are centering on the following:

* In April, he received notification that several players might be involved in a NCAA violation, selling their property to an outside party, which is an illegal benefit.

* He did not report this potential issue to the Ohio State Compliance office, the Office of General Council, or the Athletic Director at any time from April through September.

* In September, he (like all NCAA employees and student athletes) signed documentation to indicate that he had no knowledge of any violations of NCAA policy, in spite of the knowledge mentioned above.

* Throughout the 2010 season Coach Tressel allows players to play that may have been ineligible due to potential violations that he was aware of.

* In December, the University is made aware of the situation that Tressel was informed about in April, and suspends the players involved. During the University investigation, it’s safe to assume that Coach Tressel did not come forward with his prior knowledge.

* The NCAA suspends the student athletes involved for parts of the 2011 season, after letting them play in the Sugar Bowl.

* In January, the University is made aware of Coach Tressel’s knowledge of the situation and begins working with the NCAA to respond appropriately. The University chooses to suspend Coach Tressel, first for two games and ultimately for five, while the NCAA investigation continues.

* The NCAA has not set a timeline for this matter to be concluded, although many speculate that it will wrap up some time this summer.

Again, these are egregious violations- at surface level, it appears that Coach Tressel is responsible for his a) initial failure to disclose, b) failure to disclose in September, c) allowing participation of ineligible athletes, , and b) failure to disclose in December. Whether the NCAA chooses to see these as one violation or several separate ones is yet to be determined.

The facts of the Pearl situation are, as far as I can gather, these:

* Coach Pearl had a gathering for recruits at his house, which is a violation of the NCAA’s recruiting protocol.

* At the gathering, he informed the recruits and their families that he was not going to report that they’d been over to the NCAA, and asked that they keep silent as well.

* In addition, Pearl and his staff made numerous impermissible phone calls to recruits, again in violation of the NCAA’s policy.

* During the NCAA investigation into these concerns, Pearl denied knowledge of the gathering at his house up until the point where he was shown a photo that was taken at the event.

* Pearl is sanctioned by the University ($1.5 million over 5 years, no off campus recruiting) and by the SEC (suspended for 8 conference games). During a press conference, Coach Pearl admitted that he had made a mistake and was sorry.

* In September, following the press conference, Coach Pearl may have made illegal contact with a recruit at Oak Hill Academy, in spite of the fact that he was banned from off campus recruiting.

* This fall, Coach Pearl’s staff made an error with the guest list for the game against the University of Kentucky. While a minor violation, it was yet another strike against the recruiting practices of the Volunteer staff.

Given this, it’s possible to see several differences between the two situations. First, Coach Pearl’s falsehoods were direct lies to NCAA investigators about a situation that he himself facilitated. He broke a rule, encouraged potential student athletes and their families to be dishonest about it, and was not honest to the NCAA staff when asked directly.

This is not an attempt to excuse Jim Tressel’s behavior; but like it or not, there is a difference between breaking a rule and blatantly lying to cover it up and not being forthright. Both are egregious and should be dealt with firmly, particularly if college sports is a part of a University who hopes to shape young adults for the future.

But what should be kept in mind here when thinking about the University of Tennessee’s decision to fire Coach Pearl is that there are a number of other factors at play. First, there are the additional recruiting violations (improper phone calls, improper contact, improper guest priveledges at University events), several of which happened after the University thought they had addressed this issue with Coach Pearl. Second, there might have been concerns about other issues within the basketball program (ESPN alludes to potential substance usage issues, and there was a New Years Eve arrest in 2010). Third, Coach Pearl has a couple of violations in his past- nothing significant, but they are still present.

A final factor, and a significant difference between these two circumstances in my opinion, is the ongoing NCAA investigation into the Tennessee Athletic Department. Former coach Lane Kiffin has already been reprimanded for failure to monitor his staff, and there are questions surrounding the University’s use of hostesses in recruiting that have emerged following a 22 month investigation by the NCAA. It’s quite possible, given this climate and the factors mentioned above, that the University is seeking to “clean house” in order to put their best foot forward for the NCAA. Firing Coach Pearl might have been one additional aspect of that process.

In contrast, The Ohio State University’s athletic department is not currently under investigation by the NCAA. And, while players in Coach Tressel’s programs in the past have been sanctioned, at no time was he.

The situations and circumstances between these two matters are vastly different if you’re willing to move past the easy thoughts of fans and commentators. Again, both men should be held accountable by their institutions and the NCAA for their actions.

But to judge one institution’s response to an incident based on another institution’s decision to act on a longer pattern of behavior is simply a mistake.


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but then youre saying
>that he should be fired based on all the other stuff that
>you're hoping/praying/wishing will come out.


basically.




>long story short...tressel will be beating your ass in ann
>arbor come november as usual.


damn, you're sensitive about this...(c)
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>Not to mention the NCAA lifted up every single
>rock and stone in the Mo-C allegations and nothing was
>uncovered. I'm not worried about so called "bodies".

the ncaa twice took up residence on the OSU campus and found nothing. this is the difference between OSU and USC.

  

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>it just means OSU compliance is on their shit...or at least
>trying to be.

im asking this question from a position of ignorance, but while the compliance dept is obviously sharp, are there frameworks in place for dealing with the same secondary violation over and over and over again at the same school? i dont know if thats happening at osu, but it seems that 375 would be an awfully high number not to have any repeats.

  

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526. "i have no idea"
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>>it just means OSU compliance is on their shit...or at least
>>trying to be.
>
>im asking this question from a position of ignorance, but
>while the compliance dept is obviously sharp, are there
>frameworks in place for dealing with the same secondary
>violation over and over and over again at the same school?

if the violation was frivolous to begin with then i guess doing it twice doesn't really bother anyone. i dont think people realize just how ridiculous some of the ncaa rules are.

my favorite from the strength and conditioning side of things was that you werent allowed to give an athlete a protein shake that consisted of anything more than 30% protein. wtf? but of course, you could give a kid a chicken breast which would be 100% protein. theres just lots of stupid shit like that that doesnt make any sense but could be considered a 'violation'.

>i
>dont know if thats happening at osu, but it seems that 375
>would be an awfully high number not to have any repeats.

maybe. how does the 375 compare to other schools? just wondering.

but again, from a fanbase who's rallying cry is 'It was only stretching!'...the specific nature of the infraction is kind of important here.

if the violations were egregious than OSU wouldve gotten fucked a long time ago.

  

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530. "NCAA Could Consider Ohio State 'Repeat Violator' (laink)"
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NCAA Could Consider Ohio State 'Repeat Violator'
Tuesday, March 22, 2011 5:28 PM
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COLUMBUS, Ohio — Previous NCAA rules violations could impact the severity of the penalties faced by football coach Jim Tressel and the team, 10 Investigates' Paul Aker reported on Tuesday.
On Thursday, the National Collegiate Athletics Association upheld penalties against five players for selling memorabilia and receiving improper benefits, but it has not yet determined what punishment Tressel will face.

Earlier this month, Tressel was suspended by the university for the first two games next season and fined $250,000 for failing to notify the school about information he received last April involving two players and questionable activities involving the sale of memorabilia.

The NCAA could levy additional penalties on him.

After the school was sanctioned for violations in its basketball program, Ohio State was supposed to stay out trouble for at least five years.

The basketball penalty started on March 10, 2006.

The basketball team had some of its brightest moments erased from history after former coach Jim O'Brien broke some rules. The NCAA imposed sanctions that included stripping the school of post season victories and pulling down championship banners as though OSU had never won.

10 Investigates has learned those problems could mean the university, and its football team, could be considered a "repeat violator."

The NCAA bylaws state that "an institution shall be considered a repeat violator if a major violation has occurred within five years of the starting date of a major penalty."

Tressel's failure to disclose is considered a major violation, Aker reported.

Bylaws state that in addition to normal penalties, a school given repeat violator status could lose up to two full seasons of play, scholarships for athletes, and recruiting privileges for two years.

Ohio State officials would not comment on whether the university expects to be considered a repeat violator.

The NCAA said serious sanctions can apply to repeat violators, but are not automatic.

Sports attorney and agent Brett Adams said OSU clearly qualifies as a "repeat violator," but questioned whether the NCAA would actually carry out its most serious penalties.

"I don't think there's any question from a technical standpoint they fall under a repeat violator status," Adams said. "I don't think there's any chance that will happen no matter what additional facts come out because Ohio State is a huge business."

Adams said that while OSU is likely to be spared the NCAA's harshest penalties, it will likely face serious punishment.

The NCAA upheld suspensions for Mike Adams, Daniel Herron, DeVier Posey, Terrelle Pryor and Solomon Thomas. The players were previously handed five-game suspensions for selling awards, gifts and university apparel, as well as receiving improper benefits in 2009.

Ohio State appealed the suspensions in the hopes that it would reduce the number of games players would miss, but an NCAA committee on student-athlete reinstatement upheld the punishments.
The players must also repay money and benefits ranging from $1,000 to $2,500.

After the NCAA upheld the player's suspensions, Tressel asked to also sit out the first five games of the 2011 season and Ohio State athletic director Gene Smith accepted his request.

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>Sports attorney and agent Brett Adams said OSU clearly
>qualifies as a "repeat violator," but questioned whether the
>NCAA would actually carry out its most serious penalties.
>
>"I don't think there's any question from a technical
>standpoint they fall under a repeat violator status," Adams
>said. "I don't think there's any chance that will happen no
>matter what additional facts come out because Ohio State is a
>huge business."
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>Adams said that while OSU is likely to be spared the NCAA's
>harshest penalties, it will likely face serious punishment.


I'm still not sure if this whole ordeal will cost Tressel his job (contrary to what the OSU retards on the board think, the language of my post title is anything but definitive), but it doesn't look good. If I was a gambling man, I'd wager Tressel is out.

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532. "put your money where your mouth is then bitch"
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$100 to any charity of your choice if he gets fired...

and vice versa


in fact...anyone who wants that bet...inbox me.


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533. "i dont gamble and ur coming across a little"
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crazy/desperate/unhinged

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534. "It's a donation dummy."
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And my squad is dancing. I'm swell.

Carry on with your laughable predictions. This thread is almost as funny as Tate>Pryor.
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535. "holler at me when ur $120,000 in debt lol"
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i actually would make that "bet" otherwise.

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551. "*words smallest violin* lol at you and your entire existence."
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552. "i don't get it."
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559. "what does it say about my existence tho?"
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other than the fact that mommy and daddy aren't paying for my professional school tuition?

is *that* your point?

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536. "Ohio State football: Tressel's emails were forwarded"
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dispatch.com

When Ohio State football coach Jim Tressel learned last spring that some of his current players were in trouble, he shared the information with someone he thought could help his star quarterback even though he said he didn't tell his bosses.

Tressel forwarded the information to Ted Sarniak, a mentor to Terrelle Pryor, after the coach received emails warning that Pryor and at least one other player had sold memorabilia to a local tattoo-parlor owner who was under federal investigation for drug trafficking, multiple sources have confirmed to The Dispatch.

Sarniak, 67, is a prominent businessman in Pryor's hometown of Jeannette, Pa. He befriended the quarterback years ago and accompanied him on recruiting trips to Ohio State and other universities.

During a news conference on March 8 to announce NCAA ethics violations by Tressel, the coach said he kept the information to himself to protect the confidentiality of the federal investigation and for the safety of his players.

But Tressel also nodded his head and said "um-hmm" when asked whether he had forwarded the emails to anyone.

Ohio State athletic director Gene Smith quickly intervened to prevent Tressel from answering that question about the matter currently under investigation by the NCAA. The university suspended Tressel for the first five games of the coming football season and fined him $250,000 for failing to report the information to Ohio State officials or the NCAA, but the NCAA could accept or increase the penalties when it issues a final ruling.

Pryor and four other players also have been suspended for the first five games. A sixth player has been suspended for one game.

When asked whether Tressel had passed the information to Sarniak, OSU officials said, "We are not discussing any issues relative to the case until it is resolved with the NCAA."

In a public-records request, The Dispatch asked Ohio State officials for emails involving Tressel and Sarniak, and the university is reviewing its records. So it remains unclear when Tressel forwarded emails to Sarniak, whether the businessman received them and, if he did, what happened as a result.

The Dispatch made numerous attempts to reach Sarniak for comment, both by phone and in person. His wife said the family would have no comment.

Doug Archie, OSU's director of compliance, said Sarniak served as Pryor's contact person during Ohio State's recruiting efforts but is not considered a booster.

"Mr. Sarniak and Terrelle Pryor have been friends for a number of years, and their friendship dates back prior to Terrelle's enrollment at Ohio State," Archie said in an email to The Dispatch. "As the friendship developed, Mr. Sarniak is someone who Terrelle has reached out to for advice and guidance throughout his high-school and collegiate career."

Archie said the university thoroughly examined the relationship between Sarniak and Pryor before the nation's top college recruit arrived on campus as a freshman in 2008.

"The university continues to monitor the association between the two in case any concerns arise," Archie said.

Sources said that Sarniak has served as Pryor's mentor at the request of his family, and Tressel thought that Sarniak could help counsel the quarterback after Tressel realized that Pryor was among the players involved with a man under federal investigation. Sarniak, who has owned the Jeannette Specialty Glass company since 1976, has attended some Ohio State football games in the past three years.

"Teddy has done a lot for Terrelle, and Terrelle has done a lot for Teddy," said Ray Reitz, Pryor's former coach at Jeannette High School. "Terrelle is loved back here around Jeannette, and I think he and Coach Tressel have done a helluva job at Ohio State. He is a kid and has made mistakes, but there are some people that have wanted to see Terrelle fail since he left here."

Pryor arrived at Ohio State in the summer of 2008 after leaving Jeannette, a blue-collar town cut into western Pennsylvania's foothills about 25 miles east of Pittsburgh. It is home to about 10,000 residents, many of whom have been hit hard by a depressed local economy.

Pryor was the most ballyhooed quarterback recruit for the Buckeyes since Art Schlichter in 1978. He led Jeannette to state championships in football and basketball his senior year.

The 2010 season began with Pryor as a frontrunner for the Heisman Trophy and the Buckeyes heading for a shot at a national title. It ended with the Heisman in another quarterback's hands, fans questioning Pryor's inconsistent play and leadership, and the NCAA bearing down on him.

Many in Pryor's hometown said they have been stunned that the local prodigy has been criticized so harshly.

"He has made play after play after play for Ohio State, and it just doesn't seem like anyone over there is ever satisfied with Terrelle," said Rick Pitzer, manager of Pitzer's Townhouse restaurant in Jeannette, which Pryor has frequented over the years. "I know there are rules, but the items he sold were his. And to take away half a season from him and ruin his last chance for the Heisman just doesn't seem right. We are so proud of him, but you have no idea what it would have meant to have a Heisman Trophy winner from Jeannette."

Off the field, Pryor has attracted his share of headlines.

Among them was a Dispatch report in January that Pryor had received traffic tickets while driving cars that belonged to car salesmen. OSU officials knew that Pryor had borrowed a dealer's car while his car was in the shop last spring. He received two citations while driving that car.

Ohio State officials were unaware that Pryor had borrowed a car salesman's personal vehicle and received a ticket while returning to Columbus from Jeannette in the fall of his freshman year. The university has since investigated and found no violation. OSU officials said Pryor took the car, which the salesman said was for sale, for an extended, 48-hour test drive. Because some car dealers occasionally allow customers to borrow cars for extended periods, Ohio State and Big Ten officials concluded that Pryor had not violated NCAA rules.

The salesman has told The Dispatch that Pryor didn't buy the 2004 GMC Denali because he couldn't afford it.

Pryor is typical of many college students: He has made mistakes but has tried to learn from them, said Roy Hall, Jeannette High School football coach and Pryor's former quarterback coach.

"His emotions have gotten the best of him at times, but Terrelle is a good young man who has done a lot for OSU and does a lot for kids and the community back here," said Hall, who remains close to Pryor. "When he was back here around the holidays, we were at Pitzer's having dinner and he was pretty down about what happened and the suspension. But he's learned a good lesson, and he will be back."

A few houses down from Sarniak's glass factory on

N. Fourth Street hangs a banner touting Pryor, "2," and OSU running back Jordan Hall, "7," also of Jeannette. The house belongs to Hall's dad, Derrick Hall Sr.

It's a reminder of how the fortunes of this small Pennsylvania town and one of the nation's most prominent college football powers are linked.

"We stick together in this town and look out for one another," said Derrick Hall Sr. "I know a lot of people are down on the Buckeyes, Terrelle and Coach Tressel, but it's easy to kick people around during tough times."

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537. "caught red-handed, pimp-slapped backwards & left stranded(c)Kurupt"
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538. "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VePxbFQ-qfw"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VePxbFQ-qfw
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539. "This isnt anything new to the NCAA or TOSU brass."
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This was disclosed to the NCAA in January. Like I've said all along, a year long suspension, vacated wins, and no post season bowl ban and scholly reducements.






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541. "you've been saying a year long suspension all along?"
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546. "lying bitch: see post 31"
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and 7 and 9 while you're at it.

your whole "moving the goalposts" technique of argumentation is getting old.

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548. "^broke and dumb bitch."
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there was a DeepAzTheRoot post where he asked the penalty and i said a season...

go search my name...its all you do anyways...google posters and scour archives..


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549. "post 31."
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remember when your initial response was *yawn*..... just like right after the tattgate story first came out too

lol @ ur dumbass

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540. "http://bit.ly/f12G8x"
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http://bit.ly/f12G8x

  

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542. "Reactions (this is disastrous for Tressel):"
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-Destroys his already paper-thin "confidentiality" defense
-That Tressel still has such a close relationship to Pryor's "handler" that they continue to exchange personal e-mails speaks volumes about illegitimate, clandestine recruiting relationships. A "prominent" businessman is Pryor's "mentor"? LOLOL... this businessman has huge banners of other PA OSU players in his factories? The head coach of the OSU football team sends him personal e-mail updates? And he's not a booster? LOLOLOLOL

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543. "#537 + 'Bitch Tressell, You More Of A Bitch Than A Bitch'(c)Young Gotti"
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544. "the sad part is... Tressel seems like a OG thug"
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but his whole perfect deceptive persona of a uptight goodie two-shoes was blown up by his sheer stupidity in leaving an electronic paper trail. I mean come on Tress-dawg, I at least expected you to have some underlings do your dirty business for you

lolll i can just imagine JT at his 1999 HP Pavilion clicking around his hotmail inbox and giving the office hallway the shifty eyes once over before hitting the send button.

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547. "Yea, he just seems naive"
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>but his whole perfect deceptive persona of a uptight goodie
>two-shoes was blown up by his sheer stupidity in leaving an
>electronic paper trail.

i mean he isnt pete carroll (well, pete carroll didnt know how to cheat either)

oh well..he'll have plenty of time to learn this season.





>lolll i can just imagine JT at his 1999 HP Pavilion clicking
>around his hotmail inbox

if it was his hotmail/gmail inbox we wouldnt have access to any
of these emails, and this wouldnt even be an issue.




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550. "ghetto ass hotmail just makes the scene funnier"
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dumbass tressel probably still trying to play that banner ad "hit the monkey with the hammer to win $1 million" game lol

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560. "no. your joke failed. move on."
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561. "lol is this what you have been reduced to?"
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563. "pointing out how stupid you are is fun & u deflecting and squirming"
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is even better.

*waits for you to bring up guilty simpson again*
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564. "deflect? squirm?"
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from what?

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553. "I hate UCLA but Ill give credit where it's due, they fired Harrick's ass"
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for far less than this despite the fact that he won a title recently.

I guess the difference is that UCLA is a superior university ethically as well as academically plus they had 11 titles rather than 1 to hang their hat on for that forty-or-so year period when it occurred.

  

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555. "thats nice. but USC isnt doing shit for another decade."
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and youre still sobbing into your Cosby Temple sweater.


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565. "Stuttervest Lyin/Hypocrisy Stay Flyin/Buckeye Fan Denyin/I'm Tryin"
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not to divert, but to hit the problem head on/by bringin' out the truth in a song.

  

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566. "wait. so it wasnt just tress and the 5 suspended players that knew?"
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shocking.

anyone that thinks gene smith wasn't privy to this is fooling themselves.

  

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567. "of course he was privy to it dumbass"
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that's not the issue. it's WHO Tressel decided to turn to for help in dealing with the situation... *not* the OSU compliance department, but rather a "prominent businessman" who is a "mentor" and "handler" for Pryor. And who happens to feature several OSU player posters and banners in his own factory. But he's not a booster. Right.

And before you answer, I'll do it for you, just choose one and then read my response to it:

*yawn*
^That's what was said right after Tatgate broke. And right after Tressel's e-mails came out. Supposedly nothing would come of this right? Well that changed when the players were suspended 5 games. And then Tressel was suspended for 2. Then 5. Then your butt buddy guru says half a season. Now he says a full season. LOL, we came a long way from *yawn* didn't we? Pretty soon, the nutty OSU fans on this board will go from saying *yawn* to "it's just a death penalty, no big deal! We're a basketball school!"

*we don't know all the facts there must be something else going on*
The last time you said this... you were right! But, unfortunately, each additional fact serves as an indictment of JT, not an exculpatory circumstance. The e-mails. The horrible press conference. The shady lawyer. Now the shady businessman. Don't worry, I'm sure there will be more!

*this wealthy businessman really IS just a mentor for Pryor, he has no other intentions*
See: Bill Martin

*Tressel told the mentor so he could deal with Pryor directly as his mentor! Yea! That's gotta be it!*
Right.... compliance wouldn't be able to do that.

*But... but... but... Tressel thought all of this was confidential!*
Oops wrong, he emailed the shady sketchball businessman. Over his own compliance department. Read that again. If he was worried about compliance compromising the "investigation" (lol) then he could have just as easily gone to the office of legal affairs... you know, the same department that CAUGHT him in his lie.


No but really, LOL @ this whole situation and the OSU fanbase response. When will you guys finally jump ship? We had to do it with Fisher and Ellerbee. If what half the heinous things the Freep was reporting were true I'd have done the same with Rich Rod. Get some dignity.

Beyond the nutty buckeye fans on this board though, I feel the worse for proud OSU alums. It's sad your alma mater has no institutional integrity. It places sports above all else. Thank god Michigan does not trumpet that win at all costs mentality. Mary Sue Coleman was probably *too* harsh following the Martin fiasco. God damn, could you imagine her saying that Fisher would fire her sooner than she would fire Fisher? LMAO thank you god once again for blessing me with the opportunity to avoid going to such a shit-stain school. Sure, I might not be able to brag about athletics wins on a online sports forum to anonymous douchebags but I can at least look at my diploma with a sense of honor and integrity.

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568. "you've got a screw loose, kiddo"
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whatever happened to that promise of u no longer conversating with me?

keep replying to my posts if you wish but do trust that from here on in I won't be responding to or reading anything you direct at me. youre beyond weird/obsessed. seek help.

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569. "translation: can't formulate a coherent response to my post"
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duly noted!

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612. "I just can't see any way possible that Gene Smith didn't know abt it"
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I could be wrong & maybe when the NCAA finishes their investigation they don't find anything that confirms Smith knew. I just find that shit hard to believe man. No one knowingly withholds info from their boss that could get them & their boss fired.

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554. "why in the fk does this post have over 500 replies?"
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i dont get it (c) CEEJ

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557. "Pryor's High School Coach, Ray Reitz, to The Dispatch:"
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"Teddy has done a lot for Terrelle, and Terrelle has done a lot for Teddy."

^^ where there's smoke....

(Teddy is Pryor's "mentor"/"handler" that JT decided was more important to e-mail than OSU compliance)

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570. "HBO: Stanley McClover received "cash," "sexual services" from OSU"
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http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/iteam/2011/03/hbos-real-sports-must-see-tv-for-final-four-viewers

"Stanley McClover, a former Auburn defensive end, talks about how he received not just cash but sexual services during a recruiting visit to Ohio State."

LOL if this is true. God damn what a crumbling, cheating, scandal-ridden program. If I'm not mistaken, this would be under Tressel's watch no?

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571. "NCAA alleges Jim Tressel not honest"
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NCAA alleges Jim Tressel not honest
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6424573

The NCAA, in a notice of allegations to the Ohio State school president last week, says football coach Jim Tressel was not honest after discovering his players were selling autographs, uniforms, championship rings and other memorabilia for money and tattoos.

The incident, which resulted in a self-imposed school fine of $250,000 and a five-game suspension for Tressel, could be considered a second offense when the NCAA hands down any discipline, according to the notice, which was delivered Friday to president Gordon Gee.

The NCAA says Tressel "falsely attested" that he reported all knowledge of NCAA violations to the school.

The report also cites previous violations involving former quarterback Troy Smith, who received $500 from a booster and former men's basketball coach Jim O'Brien, who gave $6,000 to a recruit.

NCAA rules state second-time violators face postseason levies, coaching-staff suspensions and a loss of scholarships.

Ohio State must go before the NCAA's committee on infractions Aug. 12.

"It was reported that Jim Tressel, head football coach, failed to deport himself in accordance with the honesty and integrity normally associated with the conduct and administration of intercollegiate athletics and violated ethical-conduct legislation," the 13-page NCAA document says.

Absent from the notice was mention of a "failure to monitor" or "failure of institutional control," the most serious violations that historically have resulted in the worst penalties for programs.

"That was very significant," a source close to the investigation told The Columbus Dispatch on Monday.

Tressel has been suspended for the first five games of the 2011 season for failing to notify Ohio State officials of emails he received as early as April 2010 that said his players were selling the items to the owner of a local tattoo parlor.

Five players, including starting quarterback Terrelle Pryor, were suspended in December for accepting the improper benefits. All were permitted to play in Ohio State's Sugar Bowl victory over Arkansas, with their suspensions beginning with the first game this fall.

"The university will continue to work cooperatively with the NCAA during the response phase to the NCAA that now begins, and will have no further comment until the process is completed," the school statement said Monday.

Tressel, in his 11th year coaching the Buckeyes, did not disclose what he knew about the players' violations until he was confronted by Ohio State officials in January while the university was building the appeal of the players' suspensions.

Tressel did call an FBI agent within days, The Dispatch reported Monday, citing documents it acquired from Ohio State through a public-records request.

He also forwarded to a mentor of Pryor emails that had warned the coach his players were in trouble. But Tressel did not forward the emails to school officials.

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572. "*phew* at no mention of "lack of institutional control""
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he pretty much took the fall for the university and players...couldnt ask for more from a HC...(most buckeye fans see it, and so do some impartial observers http://deadspin.com/)


btw...I heard Denard looked like absolute trash under center in the spring game...lol...and Darious Morris signed with an agent? back to the basement bitches..in both sports!


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573. "Darius didn't sign with an agent..."
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He submitted paper work for the draft, but he specifically didn't sign with an agent. He has the option to stay in school as long as he withdraws his name from draft consideration before May 8th. He's basically trying to see where he stands...if they tell him he's a sure 1st rounder he's probably gone, if not he probably stays.

And yeah Denard looked horrible under center. Poor footwork on the drop backs and the timing for the snaps was off. Devin Gardner didn't look any better. My only hope is that it's a wakeup call to the staff on them being so rigid in moving to pro style. If we're gonna have any success at all we need to incorporate a good amount of spread option. The one good thing is that Borges said he was planning on using shotgun sets more than he ever has in the past. They need to get this stuff figured out or else the offense is gonna look like us in 2008 all over again.

  

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574. "I thought I read an MgoBlog tweet saying he signed...my bad."
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>He submitted paper work for the draft, but he specifically
>didn't sign with an agent. He has the option to stay in school
>as long as he withdraws his name from draft consideration
>before May 8th. He's basically trying to see where he
>stands...if they tell him he's a sure 1st rounder he's
>probably gone, if not he probably stays.

He's a punk ass bitch who talks way too much shit (but he can play) so I wouldnt mind seeing him go...but if he comes back you guys could compete for 3rd or 4th in the Big 10.

>
>And yeah Denard looked horrible under center. Poor footwork on
>the drop backs and the timing for the snaps was off. Devin
>Gardner didn't look any better. My only hope is that it's a
>wakeup call to the staff on them being so rigid in moving to
>pro style. If we're gonna have any success at all we need to
>incorporate a good amount of spread option. The one good thing
>is that Borges said he was planning on using shotgun sets more
>than he ever has in the past. They need to get this stuff
>figured out or else the offense is gonna look like us in 2008
>all over again.


How did the defense (or lack thereof) look?
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575. "Man it's really hard to say considering how bad the offense looked..."
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>How did the defense (or lack thereof) look?

On the surface the defense looked MUCH improved. The secondary looked like they learned how to cover and the tackling looked better. But the offense was so terrible (both 1st and 2nd team) that it doesn't mean anything. Last year our offense was successful when defenses were on their heels not knowing whether to stay back and cover or to go after Denard. I saw none of that in the spring game. No big passing plays that happened because a corner or safety dropped down to pursue Denard. I guess it's a good sign that the corners weren't getting turned around losing the ball in the air and the linebackers weren't running into blocks. But improvement like that just speaks to how historically bad our D was last year.

  

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580. "no new news is good news"
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576. "Urban Meyer will coach TOSU in 2012 - Beano Cook"
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lol I forgot this dude was even alive...him and Ivan Maisel

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Beano Cook has made some outrageous predictions in the past, including forecasting that Ron Powlus would win two Heismans at Notre Dame. Cook said Thursday during an interview on ESPN radio he expects Urban Meyer to be the coach at Ohio State in 2012.

The Buckeyes already have Jim Tressel in the position, but how long Tressel lasts is uncertain. The NCAA has yet to rule on possible penalties for the coach, who committed major violations by failing to forward information about possible rules violations by two of his players and lying to the NCAA. Tressel has already said he would accept a five-game suspension.

"I think Ohio State has major problems and I think Jim Tressel has major problems," Cook, whose comments were reported by The Columbus Dispatch, said. "I've said on my Podcast. . . (that) Urban Meyer will be the coach at Ohio State in 2012. That was my prediction and I stick by that prediction."

Meyer is currently out of coaching after winning two national titles in six seasons with Florida. He will work this fall as a commentator at ESPN.

"Urban Meyer will be ready to coach somewhere," Cook said. "He said when he was coaching Florida that there were only three schools he would ever coach at – Michigan, Ohio State and Notre Dame. I think Brian Kelly is going to do the job at Notre Dame and Michigan just hired a new coach, and I think this will be Jim Tressel's last year."

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577. "Regarding Beano, I thought the same thing"
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>lol I forgot this dude was even alive...him and Ivan Maisel

I thought this was a joke because I thought Beano had died.

  

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578. "also, didn't Beano say Pawlus would win THREE Heismans? "
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*Jews you*

"this is okp tho, reading is completely optional" (c) desus

Proceed with caution. I am overtly racist.

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579. "I believe it was two and the article says two"
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That shit still makes me laugh. The sad thing is, he was so serious and you could tell he truly believed it.

  

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581. "Beano is great though"
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he'll readily cop to any stupid predictions / homerism, unlike these modern day blowhards on ESPN. him referring to Miami as the Mother Russia of college football -- "unbeatable at home, not so good on the road" -- was classic.

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582. "Jim Tressel's Future At Ohio State (vid)"
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Jim Tressel's Future At Ohio State
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583. "Jim Tressel shouldn't have a future at OSU & they deserve at least"
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as much a penalty as SC received (more in my opinion but that won't happen).

  

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584. "Chris Spielman, Robert Smith and Herbstreit all think it's possible"
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586. "did you really just say HERBSTREIT? hahahha"
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id trust his michigan intel more than what he has to say about OSU.

and we both know how great his michigan intel is.

  

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588. "did you ignore Robert Smith and Chris Spielman??"
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599. "i like spielman and smith"
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though i think smith doesnt have much insight/access into the OSU program...speilman for sure.

but at the end of the day it's his opinion. and thats all it is. the opinions of media personalities matter about as much as yours and mine do. the people that matter (admin, players, parents of players, HS coaches, boosters) all support tressel.

herbie at this point is at best a cartoon character. OSU players are now twittering about how he addressed the team last season and broke down in tears while apologizing. he's a former team captain that is now longer welcome within the OSU program and he's furious, lol.

  

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585. "LOFL...espn got you pretty riled up huh"
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im not sure what has changed in the past 24 hours to make anyone feel any differently about what happened...other than espn going bonkers a second time around to drum up ratings.

i went to the espn.com website and there's a headline that read 'OSU has been ripped to its soul'...LMAO.

im watching the spring game on DVR and it seems like business as usual to me.

keep wishing, fellas.

  

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596. "nothing changed, the Vest still blatantly lied & should be fired if the"
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school had a modicum of integrity. That's been the case since this whole thing came to light.

However since they won't, the wack-ass NCAA might wanna step in & dole out some real punishment to the program based on the way they've handled past lesser transgressions.

I'm not 'riled up' about any of that, just exhibiting rational thought.

  

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587. "still trying too hard..U$Cs violations were far more egregious"
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lmao @ you comparing this to a play for pay scheme that Carroll had set up..

enjoy getting your teeth kicked in by Oregon..again.

>as much a penalty as SC received (more in my opinion but that
>won't happen).

  

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595. "no, they weren't, Carroll didn't get caught red-handed lying to the NCAA"
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and covering up to play multiple guys (including his star QB) who would have been ineligible.

The most they could put on Carroll was 'he should have known' that Reggie was getting fronted money in SE San Diego.

LOL @ 'more egregrious', spoken like a true Buckeye lapdog.

If some non-invested-OSU fan wants to come in here & explain how this doesn't warrant probation when SC got two years, I'm all ears.

  

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597. "might've been that pesky lack of institutional control thing"
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>If some non-invested-OSU fan wants to come in here & explain
>how this doesn't warrant probation when SC got two years, I'm
>all ears.

which warranted a god knows how long investigation (while SC stonewalled the NCAA the entire time and then hired kiffin of all people) that resulted in a novel length document listing offenses scaling multiple sports.

youre either full of shit or a moron and i dont think youre a moron so im not gonna bother to list all the major differences here since you know them already. but keep fighting the good fight alongside the fans of a program who similarly have nothing to look forward to next season.

  

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603. "oh yes, your institution displayed impeccable control in this situation"
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I'm not talking about the overall review of the entire athletic department because SC paid for the Mayo bullshit individually as well as the other stuff.

We're limiting this to football program, though I get why you'd want to open it up to the girl's tennis team & such.

Tressel, as the head of said program, has committed offenses far more flagrant than anything connected to Pete Carroll in a multitude of ways.

Since OSU won't can him, the NCAA if it wasn't a complete hypocritical & sanctimonious selective punishment administrator (like that sheisty bible-thumper Tressel himself) would dole out a ruling equal or harsher than the one it gave SC.

  

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608. "moron or troll - which one is it?"
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and this is all on tressel, the institution did not know (*wink wink*)...so institution's discretion isnt up for critique.


>I'm not talking about the overall review of the entire
>athletic department because SC paid for the Mayo bullshit
>individually as well as the other stuff.

ummmm, the other stuff was a huge contributing factor to why SC football is in it's current state. OJ mayo had as much to do with the punishments as reggie bush did. you cannot separate the two to strengthen your argument...you're on some O_E steeze now.

and you can't discount the fact that there were multiple infractions on the football team that had nothing to do with reggie.

and that quite simply sums up the differences between usc and osu.

the NCAA dug into SC and found many, many infractions concerning the football team and the entire athletic dept.

the NCAA dug into OSU and found nothing beyond what we already know - that tressel covered up some free tattoos.

if all the ncaa found was reggie bush...then SC would be in a much different position today.

if the ncaa found more shit on tressel extending beyond tattoo-gate then we'd be sharing SC's fate in irrelevancy.

and im sure OSU will be put on probation so they better stay on there shit...im not worried.



  

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614. "RE: moron or troll - which one is it?"
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>and this is all on tressel, the institution did not know
>(*wink wink*)...so institution's discretion isnt up for
>critique.
>
yeah, like SC's football thing was all on Bush with a dash of Todd McNair thrown in.
>
>>I'm not talking about the overall review of the entire
>>athletic department because SC paid for the Mayo bullshit
>>individually as well as the other stuff.
>
>ummmm, the other stuff was a huge contributing factor to why
>SC football is in it's current state. OJ mayo had as much to
>do with the punishments as reggie bush did. you cannot
>separate the two to strengthen your argument...you're on some
>O_E steeze now.
>
uh, no, they were actually both dealt with separately with seperate punishments meted out.

SC tried to fall on their sword with Mayo in hopes to get a pass on Bush, didn't work out. So, no.

>and you can't discount the fact that there were multiple
>infractions on the football team that had nothing to do with
>reggie.
>
>and that quite simply sums up the differences between usc and
>osu.
>
>the NCAA dug into SC and found many, many infractions
>concerning the football team and the entire athletic dept.
>
name one on the football team besides Reggie Bush. Name anything including Reggie Bush as egregrious as what Tressell did in withholding evidence, then continuing to play guys that would have been suspended, then continuing to lie about it even in the face of a e-paper trail.

>the NCAA dug into OSU and found nothing beyond what we already
>know - that tressel covered up some free tattoos.
>
>if all the ncaa found was reggie bush...then SC would be in a
>much different position today.
>
what was the other football infraction? Jarrett living with Leinart for cheap rent? Holla at me when you actually read that report.

>if the ncaa found more shit on tressel extending beyond
>tattoo-gate then we'd be sharing SC's fate in irrelevancy.
>
your head coach lied to the NCAA & knowingly played guys who wouldn't have been eligible, how you somehow think you're not in the same ballpark is some delusion of the highest order.

>and im sure OSU will be put on probation so they better stay
>on there shit...im not worried.
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621. "RE: moron or troll - which one is it?"
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>>and this is all on tressel, the institution did not know
>>(*wink wink*)...so institution's discretion isnt up for
>>critique.
>>
>yeah, like SC's football thing was all on Bush with a dash of
>Todd McNair thrown in.

huh?

>uh, no, they were actually both dealt with separately with
>seperate punishments meted out.

then why is bball and women's listed in the ncaa infractions report that was released during the announcement of sanctions?

http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/d28c898042cdd2bc958fd5a6e282e000/20100610+USC+Public+Report.pdf?MOD=AJPERES&%3BCACHEID=d28c898042cdd2bc958fd5a6e282e000

I'm beginning to think that you genuinely do not know what lack of institutional control means.


>name one on the football team besides Reggie Bush.

whatever went down with mcnair (i dont remember), allowing agents to freely roam their program, keeping an illegal amount of coaches on staff or something to that effect...this is just off memory.


> Holla at me when you actually read
>that report.

>your head coach lied to the NCAA & knowingly played guys who
>wouldn't have been eligible, how you somehow think you're not
>in the same ballpark is some delusion of the highest order.

this is funny shit coming from a guy that clearly doesnt understand what the lack of institutional control means...or recognizes that there were a litany of factors that went into the suspension of the football program.

when the OSU infractions report clocks in at 67 pages and reads something like this:

http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/d28c898042cdd2bc958fd5a6e282e000/20100610+USC+Public+Report.pdf?MOD=AJPERES&%3BCACHEID=d28c898042cdd2bc958fd5a6e282e000

and includes a segment such as this:

From December 2004 through March 2009, the institution exhibited a lack of control over its department of athletics by its failure to have in place procedures to effectively monitor the violations of NCAA amateurism, recruiting and extra benefit legislation in the sports of football, men's basketball and women's tennis.

then holler.

until then, continue to troll through this thread and continue to conjure up conspiracy theories as to why OSU will avoid the same fate as your irrelevant program.







  

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627. "RE: moron or troll - which one is it?"
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>>>and this is all on tressel, the institution did not know
>>>(*wink wink*)...so institution's discretion isnt up for
>>>critique.
>>>
>>yeah, like SC's football thing was all on Bush with a dash
>of
>>Todd McNair thrown in.
>
>huh?
>
as in, you (who even alluded to this being 'bigger' than Tressel) know only who the highest-up they've implicated is (in this case, it was the caught-red-handed-lying-Stuttervest).

in the Bush case, it was Reggie & to some degree McNair who was suspended for the year though only circumstantially implicated in knowing anything.

Is Stutervest an acting-alone patsie?

Is he covering for somebody?

Shouldn't the school have known what goes on with their most high-profile employee & athlete on their own email server?

Sounds like your institution is lacking control, integrity, or based on that tone-deaf charade at the presser.....common sense as well.

No need to hide behind an NCAA classification that's likely coming soon to you anyway.

>>uh, no, they were actually both dealt with separately with
>>seperate punishments meted out.
>
>then why is bball and women's listed in the ncaa infractions
>report that was released during the announcement of
>sanctions?
>
>http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/d28c898042cdd2bc958fd5a6e282e000/20100610+USC+Public+Report.pdf?MOD=AJPERES&%3BCACHEID=d28c898042cdd2bc958fd5a6e282e000
>
>I'm beginning to think that you genuinely do not know what
>lack of institutional control means.
>
uh, no, I get it.

when I'm talking about the sanctions that befell the football program, they're for the football program.

basketball got hammered too, the women's thing is a phone-bill thing & used to paint the overall picture but you trying to act like that additional bullshit is what somehow separates OSU hiding evidence & playing ineligible players all season is laughable.
>
>>name one on the football team besides Reggie Bush.
>
>whatever went down with mcnair (i dont remember), allowing
>agents to freely roam their program, keeping an illegal amount
>of coaches on staff or something to that effect...this is just
>off memory.
>
McNair was about Bush, since he was his positions coach. Still not even close to the smoking-gun we have here to the top of the food chain.
>
>> Holla at me when you actually read
>>that report.
>
>>your head coach lied to the NCAA & knowingly played guys who
>>wouldn't have been eligible, how you somehow think you're
>not
>>in the same ballpark is some delusion of the highest order.
>
>this is funny shit coming from a guy that clearly doesnt
>understand what the lack of institutional control means...or
>recognizes that there were a litany of factors that went into
>the suspension of the football program.
>
translation: I have nothing to say about that so I'll hide behind some bullshit legalese while still sweating out this situation.

>when the OSU infractions report clocks in at 67 pages and
>reads something like this:
>
LOL @ you trying to use the # of pages for a five-year investigation as your evidence of something more than what I already acknowledged happened.

You Fuckeye fans are funny in your meatheaded misbelief & myopia.

67 pages.

So let's see: that makes the number of pages in that document 17% of the amount of 'minor infractions' already on record for the Buckeyes or about the same number of collective games Tressell's guys started after he had his first email episode.

And that's just what we know before the actual investigation begins in earnest over at 'Tattoo You'.

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631. "ok, it's official. you really don't get what it means..."
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and how it relates to this situation.

and i have better shit to do then spend my entire day trying to make you understand something that you don't seem capable of understanding. so this conversation is gonna end here.



>
>basketball got hammered too, the women's thing is a phone-bill
>thing & used to paint the overall picture but you trying to
>act like that additional bullshit is what somehow separates
>OSU hiding evidence & playing ineligible players all season is
>laughable.

it's 'laughable' except that's why the punishments are going to be different. do you get it yet, 'meathead'?

you've already conceded that the punishments are going to be different. so, at least on some subconscious level, you actually do get it.



>>
>translation: I have nothing to say about that so I'll hide
>behind some bullshit legalese while still sweating out this
>situation.

LOL at sweating. keep trolling this shit up to 1000 replies with your bizzare and angry hyperbole. at this point the only people putting any further energy into this thread and taking it seriously are you and the michigan folk. misery loves company.


>LOL @ you trying to use the # of pages for a five-year
>investigation as your evidence of something more than what I
>already acknowledged happened.

the fact that it was a FIVE YEAR investigation speaks volumes.

how long did this OSU investigation last. a month?

lots of shit to uncover at SC. not nearly as much shit to uncover at OSU. that, in a nutshell, is why yall got the nuclear bomb and why OSU will persevere. let that intensely difficult concept marinate for a little bit before conjuring up conspiracy theories.

>
>And that's just what we know before the actual investigation
>begins in earnest over at 'Tattoo You'.

pretty sure the investigation just ended and the ncaa will announce their decision on aug. 12 after receiving the response from OSU.

  

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632. "lol"
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>lots of shit to uncover at SC. not nearly as much shit to
>uncover at OSU. that, in a nutshell, is why yall got the
>nuclear bomb and why OSU will persevere. let that intensely
>difficult concept marinate for a little bit before conjuring
>up conspiracy theories.


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633. "^^^Runnin Hot(c)MIchael Phillip Jagger"
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638. "Never heard it/of it"
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645. "mandel's take...not mine"
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"But USC fans will be disappointed if they think Ohio State is about to suffer a similarly harsh fate. The Bush ruling was an indictment of USC's entire athletic culture, particularly in regard to compliance, which the NCAA obviously felt was lacking. The school has since beefed up those areas considerably under AD Pat Haden. Conversely, Ohio State's case was arguably a model of compliance. The school itself uncovered the infamous e-mails incriminating Jim Tressel and reported them accordingly. The Notice of Allegations revealed Monday targeted no one in the athletic department outside of Tressel, who conducted a one-man cover-up to protect his players' eligibility. Those players have been punished, and Tressel will be too, but I don't see mass scholarship cuts or a bowl ban in OSU's future."

  

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601. "Lolol"
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>The most they could put on Carroll was 'he should have known'
>that Reggie was getting fronted money in SE San Diego.

Spoken like a true SC bandwagoner. but yea Carroll was a seasoned cheater (apparently he wasn't very good at it either) who ran a renegade program. And when the ship went down, he went running to Seattle like a faggot with his tail between his legs leaving a mess for Monte Sr and Wanna be Monte Jr...

FIGHT ON!


>If some non-invested-OSU fan wants to come in here & explain
>how this doesn't warrant probation when SC got two years, I'm
>all ears.

You've already made up your mind, so that would be futile. We deserve probation and we deserve to have last years wins vacated. But we certainly don't deserve the hammer (nor will we receive it) that $C had dropped on them (and justifiably so).

edit, Lol I can tell you're in here just egging along, and I'm entertaining it bc I'm fiending for some coll football talk. Don't worry. I know you're not this dense in real life.





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"Vest's a hypocrite, liar, & sanctimonious scumbag-far worse than Carrol"


  

          

>
>
>>The most they could put on Carroll was 'he should have
>known'
>>that Reggie was getting fronted money in SE San Diego.
>
>Spoken like a true SC bandwagoner. but yea Carroll was a
>seasoned cheater (apparently he wasn't very good at it either)
>who ran a renegade program. And when the ship went down, he
>went running to Seattle like a faggot with his tail between
>his legs leaving a mess for Monte Sr and Wanna be Monte Jr...
>
>FIGHT ON!
>
See but I don't pretend Carroll didn't do anything wrong, didn't run, & didn't leave the program in a lurch.

He did all those things & it colors my viewpoint on his legacy, same with Reggie's dumb ass and his wack-ass stepfather.

I'm actually realistic about what occurred & I was never the one bragging about running a clean program like Buckeye fans did regularly.

The funny thing is the smoking-gun here is far more widespread & blatant than anything connected to Carrol's program but y'all can't accept that.
>
>>If some non-invested-OSU fan wants to come in here & explain
>>how this doesn't warrant probation when SC got two years,
>I'm
>>all ears.
>
>You've already made up your mind, so that would be futile. We
>deserve probation and we deserve to have last years wins
>vacated. But we certainly don't deserve the hammer (nor will
>we receive it) that $C had dropped on them (and justifiably
>so).
>
Apparently you didn't read the part about 'non-invested OSU fan' explaining it, I can already tell y'all just wanna stick your heads in the sand & act like this is all bullshit now that Stoops 2.0 has been knocked off his high horse.


>edit, Lol I can tell you're in here just egging along, and I'm
>entertaining it bc I'm fiending for some coll football talk.
>Don't worry. I know you're not this dense in real life.
>
>
>
>
>
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609. "the bowl game is interesting"
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> and we deserve to have last years wins
>vacated. But we certainly don't deserve the hammer (nor will
>we receive it) that $C had dropped on them (and justifiably
>so).

because the ncaa had already ruled the players eligible despite full knowledge of what occurred. and nothing concerning their eligibility has changed so...

  

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644. "Yea, I wouldnt be surprised if that win isnt vacated....nm"
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589. "http://twitter.com/#%21/ESPN_Colin/status/62671024960962561"
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http://twitter.com/#%21/ESPN_Colin/status/62671024960962561


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590. "oooh a Colin Cowherd tweet! damn we're fucked!"
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meanwhile..you're still ignoring the fact that Denard looks like shit under center and you're gonna finish .500 at best in the conference...

sucks to be you.
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591. "^ proof that the delusion also includes OKS ^"
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Your entire decade of football under the vest has been a farce. The house of cards is falling. Enjoy the memories.. It's ova man. y'all ngaz are toast.. No one cares what you have to say - LMAO
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593. "^still a fan of a loser program^"
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>Your entire decade of football under the vest has been a
>farce.

lol. ok. whatever helps you cope with all the L's youve taken in the last 9 years...in basketball and football.

9-1. 14-2. take your pick.

>The house of cards is falling. Enjoy the memories.
>It's ova man. y'all ngaz are toast.. No one cares what you
>have to say - LMAO


If you really think that, I'd love to take your money. Care to make a friendly wager?




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600. "Didnt think so. You scared."
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604. "lol - Apocalypse is at your door step.. cry about it..."
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605. "^Still scared."
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610. "keep fighting the good fight... bout all you got at this point.."
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that is until that mushroom cloud engulfs Columbus... lol
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619. "you can reply last but that won't keep the NCAA from gang raping"
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y'all asses... lol
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624. "RE: you can reply last but that won't keep the NCAA from gang raping"
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>y'all asses... lol

what's gonna happen when they don't?

is it gonna be like when you predict that we're gonna get gang raped by oregon and then arkansas...and then we win...but you'll just pretend like we lost anyway?

just want to know how to prepare myself.

  

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626. "They'll come up with some other bs plea cop"
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Notice how he still hasn't said what he thinks will happen to Tressel.

P-u-s-s-y.
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630. "got enough people on record as far as that goes"
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>Notice how he still hasn't said what he thinks will happen to
>Tressel.

  

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598. "cowherd: the official authority on social behavior"
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602. "Hahaha! Losers."
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607. "Tressel countwatch starts..... NOW"
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611. "Filthy cheater, rather have Rich Rod"
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613. "I believe this can reach 700 by Memorial day weekend"
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1000 before the start of CFB.

  

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616. "Agreed, its a pain in the ass to read on my phone though."
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617. "Only if he keeps lying"
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so basically it will DEFINITELY reach 1000

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620. "if he's breating, he's lying, so we're good & doin' numbers"
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623. "Terrible look for the OSU cats up and down this post"
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Tressel clearly messed up in a major way...instead of trying to rationalize it and deflect, just own up to it. This other nonsense is so silly.

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625. "LMAO...can u read mutherfucker?"
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>Tressel clearly messed up in a major way...instead of trying
>to rationalize it and deflect, just own up to it.

in 600 posts here there have to been at least 60 posts where an OSU fan 'owned up to it' (as if we walked into the tattoo shop in the first place).

take the week off and re-read this thread from start to finish and I'm sure you'll find what you're not looking for.

  

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629. "shit is borderline cultish lol"
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635. "ya think? - lololololololol"
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636. "Dead heat in South Dakota"
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637. "with poll error margins, Vest's seeming steady in Sioux Falls!"
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640. "Vest still has a fighting chance in Rhode Island.."
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643. "this thing of ours, we're a lock here(c)Providence voter to Vest's .edu"
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662. "Here too: "
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http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=1647727&mesg_id=1647727&page=42

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628. "lots of Ls in this post... on both sides"
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1) lol @ osu fans being wrong over and over and slowly shifting their opinions as to the outcome of this debacle

2) ppl who are just chiming in that this is a huge blow... well as far as I know, not much *new* information is in the report. status quo is largely in place and all that has happened so far is just expected news... tress is a liar, he got caught, the NCAA is going to come down on OSU.

vacated season. loss of scholarships. tressel will be terminated. bottom line.

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646. "I blame those SEC bowl game losses as the start of this,"
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Vestie knew he couldn't compete on a grand stage so he took short cuts.


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647. "Report: Players traded, sold 36 items"
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Updated: April 28, 2011, 5:35 PM ET

Report: Players traded, sold 36 items
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6443472

Ohio State football players are alleged to have improperly traded dozens of items to the owner of a tattoo parlor, receiving tattoos, $14,000 and in one case a sport-utility vehicle, according to a newspaper report.

The report by The Columbus Dispatch says it obtained a letter Thursday that was sent from the U.S. Department of Justice to Ohio State officials in December. The document lists 36 items that players are said to have sold to Eddie Rife or traded for tattoos since 2008.

The newspaper reports that investigators say one player received a 2003 Chevy Tahoe, purchased by Rife for $3,500, in exchange for a watch and passes to the 2010 Rose Bowl.

Only a portion of the transactions were deemed violations by the NCAA, and five players have been suspended for the first five games of the upcoming season. A related NCAA investigation into coach Jim Tressel continues.



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648. "NCAA upholds ruling against ex-USC assistant Todd McNair (link)"
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NCAA upholds ruling against ex-USC assistant Todd McNair
PUBLISHED Friday, Apr 29, 2011 at 12:49 pm EDT

http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/story/2011-04-29/ncaa-upholds-ruling-against-ex-usc-assistant-todd-mcnair#ixzz1L6dbCVwt

The NCAA upheld sanctions on former USC assistant coach Todd McNair on Friday, a decision that could have a significant impact on two of the game’s biggest programs — and Ohio State coach Jim Tressel.

McNair was the center of USC’s problems with the NCAA, which ruled McNair knew or should have known that former star running back Reggie Bush was receiving improper benefits from a would-be marketer.

McNair was appealing a show-cause order by the NCAA, preventing him from contact with recruits for one year while working for any NCAA-member institution. This ruling likely means USC’s appeal of its postseason sanction (eliminating the 2011 ban) and scholarship reductions likely won’t be approved.

It also means Ohio State’s sanctions against Tressel -- a five-game suspension and $250,000 fine for failing to tell superiors about ineligible players and playing the players – likely won’t be nearly enough to satisfy the NCAA infraction committee.

In the notice of allegations letter sent earlier this week by the NCAA to Ohio State, the charges against Tressel – which are not disputed – are similar (and on another level, worse) than what McNair faced. The NCAA said Tressel “permitted football student-athletes to participate in intercollegiate athletics while ineligible.”

In other words, he knew about violations – and did nothing about it. Just like McNair.

The NCAA also said Tressel “failed to deport himself (with) honesty and integrity” and said he was lying when he filled out a compliance form last September which stated he had no knowledge of any NCAA violations by any of his players. He, as a head coach, will be held to a much higher standard than an assistant coach.

If this response from the NCAA to McNair is any indication – why would it not with the similar infractions? – Tressel likely is facing a show-cause edict and potentially much more.


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649. "http://media.mlive.com/wolverines_impact/photo/9538983-large.jpg"
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650. "ahahahaaaa"
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651. "whoever put this on a billboard deserve a medal of honor"
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That's classic fuckin hate right there.. I gotta ride past that to see it for mysef.. lol

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652. "Ohio State to investigate players' car deals (link)"
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Ohio State to investigate players' car deals
Official: No known problems with dozens of sales

SATURDAY, MAY 7, 2011 03:07 AM
BY JILL RIEPENHOFF, MIKE WAGNER AND RANDY LUDLOW
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH


http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2011/05/07/osu-to-investigate-players-car-deals.html?sid=101

Ohio State University's chief enforcer of NCAA rules said yesterday that he will investigate used-car purchases made by dozens of OSU athletes at two Columbus car dealers to see if any sale violated collegiate rules.

The investigation was initiated after The Dispatch found in public records that at least eight Ohio State athletes and 11 athletes' relatives bought used cars from Jack Maxton Chevrolet or Auto Direct during the past five years. The investigation will involve outside experts and examine at least 50 sales, focusing on whether the athletes received improper benefits.

The common thread in those two dozen transactions was the salesman: Aaron Kniffin, who has worked at both dealerships.

"We'll take a step back, we'll take a look at the transactions and the values, and we'll make some determinations in consultation with the (Big Ten) conference office and go from there," said Doug Archie, associate athletic director and head of compliance at OSU.

"I have nothing to believe a violation has occurred," he said.

NCAA rules don't prohibit athletes from shopping at the same stores, eating at the same restaurants or buying cars at the same dealerships. The rules prohibit athletes and their relatives from receiving discounts that are not offered to the general public.

In a joint interview with Archie yesterday, Jack Maxton owner Jeff Mauk and Auto Direct owner Jason Goss both said they never have given athletes special deals.

Mauk estimated that 40 to 50 Buckeyes bought cars from his dealership in the past five or six years .

Archie said that he was aware of all the transactions involving the athletes that The Dispatch found, but he was unaware of purchases made by their relatives.

Both dealers, whose businesses are not connected, say they routinely call Archie's office when an athlete is ready to buy a car, provide the purchase price and discuss who will co-sign on a loan. Archie said he relies on the car dealers to provide accurate information.

"I'm not a car expert. We have to rely on their integrity and their word when it comes to selling a car," he said. Ohio State runs "spot checks" on some transactions against the Kelley Blue Book value.

Archie said that he'd rather one or two dealerships didn't receive all the OSU business. "It's something from a compliance perspective that I would rather not have," he said.

Goss and Kniffin both have attended seven football games as guests of players, including the 2007 national championship and the 2009 Fiesta Bowl. At some point after 2008, Archie barred Kniffin from the players' pass list because OSU rules prohibit athletes from inviting people with whom they do business.

Goss said he received his passes from athletes who never bought cars from him.

Kniffin told The Dispatch that he has sold cars to at least four dozen OSU athletes and their relatives, that the OSU compliance staff directed them to him, and that university officials reviewed all documents before sales were final.

Archie said that he has spoken to Kniffin only once, never reviews sales documents and has not directed players to any dealerships.

All but one athlete and all of the relatives could not be reached for comment or did not respond to requests for comment.

The purchases reviewed by The Dispatch were made when Kniffin worked at Maxton between 2004 and 2009 and then at Auto Direct between 2009 and 2010.

Public records show that in 2009, a 2-year-old Chrysler 300 with less than 20,000 miles was titled to then-sophomore linebacker Thaddeus Gibson. Documents show the purchase price as $0.

Mauk could not explain it. "I don't give cars for free," he said. Gibson said he was unaware the title on his car showed zero as the sales price. "I paid for the car, and I'm still paying for it," he said, declining to answer further questions.

The cars involved sold for the average price of $11,600. Most vehicles were Chevrolets, Buicks or Dodges manufactured between 2000 and 2007. More than half had less than 50,000 miles when sold by Kniffin. Six cars had more than 100,000 miles.

Legally, dealers can sell cars at whatever price they want and are not bound by NCAA rules.

The Dispatch reviewed sales prices from Ohio Bureau of Motor Vehicle records of the 24 car transactions. The records detail the year, make, model and mileage.

Officials at two national car-valuation companies - National Automobile Dealers Association and Kelley Blue Book - were asked by The Dispatch to estimate the value of the cars at the time of purchase. The values they estimated were higher than the price paid in nearly half of the transactions. However, they said it's difficult to accurately evaluate the sales without seeing the vehicles to assess condition and options.

"No one can tell you what a car's worth," Goss said.

Goss said that the athletes and relatives found his dealership because he sells good cars at good prices. "I know how to buy cars right," he said, noting that he buys cars and acquires trade-ins at low prices, permitting him to sell cars well below retail.

Two former NCAA enforcement officials, who spoke to The Dispatch on the condition of anonymity, individually said there's cause for concern.

The two collectively have decades of NCAA compliance experience. Neither had ever heard of so many athletes buying cars from the same salesman.

Car ownership among athletes has been a recurring issue at Ohio State dating back to Maurice Clarett in 2003 and extending to the current NCAA investigation of OSU memorabilia sales in which, among other things, one player traded Rose Bowl watches for a vehicle. Four of the six players suspended for selling items for tattoos - or their relatives - also bought cars from the dealers.

The Dispatch began looking at car ownership after Kniffin's name showed up on the players' guest list for three football games in 2007.

By then, Kniffin, who was working for Maxton, had sold cars to football players Gibson, Chris "Beanie" Wells and Maurice Wells while they were still in school. The mothers of both Wells' also bought cars. At the time, Beanie's mom lived in Akron and Maurice's lived in Maryland.

While employed there, Kniffin also sold cars to football players Robert Rose, Doug Worthington and Solomon Thomas. He also sold cars to Kurt Coleman's brother, Robert Rose's father and Ray Small's father.

While at Auto Direct, a used-car dealership at 2300 E. Dublin-Granville Rd., he sold to wide receiver DeVier Posey and basketball player William Buford. Relatives who bought cars from Kniffin include Pryor's mother and brother, Daniel "Boom" Herron's father, basketball player Jon Diebler's parents and Solomon Thomas' father.

Kniffin also loaned cars to quarterback Terrelle Pryor, including his own for a three-day test drive to Pennsylvania, where Pryor lives.

Kniffin, 42, who is now selling cars in an undisclosed state, vividly recalled details of the cars sold. He disputed, however, the sales prices that were listed on state motor-vehicle records.

"The sales price is much more than that," he said. "You are so far away from what the transactions are all about."

Ohio law requires dealers to report accurate information about all car sales for tax purposes. Failure to submit accurate information is a first-degree misdemeanor punishable by up to six months in jail and a $1,000 fine.

Ohio Bureau of Motor Vehicles Registrar Mike Rankin said the agency would investigate the transactions amid Kniffin's statement that the figures listed on titles were less than the true sale prices. Rankin likewise was puzzled by Gibson's title reflecting a loan but no sales price.

"There are clearly some issues that are problematic. It's worth seeing if there are any dealer improprieties," Rankin said.

Goss disputed Kniffin's assertion that vehicles were sold to OSU players at prices higher than listed on the titles. "Titles reflect sales prices."

Auto Direct's showroom is filled with autographed jerseys from former and current players who have purchased cars from Kniffin.

Goss, who said he is a big Buckeyes fan, said he received no memorabilia from players, who autographed jerseys he had purchased while buying their cars.

Kniffin, who said he is not an OSU fan, has had financial problems since 2006. He now owes more than $130,000 to the IRS, and his $570,000 Delaware County home is in foreclosure.

At least six major athletic programs have faced NCAA sanctions since 1990 because their athletes had free use of cars or received suspect deals on purchases: Arizona State (2005), Illinois (1990 and 2005), Minnesota (2000), Louisville (1996), Michigan State (1996), and Southern California (2010).



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654. "tressel has examined the most amateur bunch of crooks ever"
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lol, paperwork that SAYS you paid 0 dollars? wtf? how dumb can you be?

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656. "But he said he is still making payments on the car"
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>lol, paperwork that SAYS you paid 0 dollars? wtf? how dumb
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653. "In other news Jim Tressel knew where Osama was hiding for 2 months"
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he just didn't tell anyone

  

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655. "That explains all the signed OSU memorabilia that was found in the compo..."
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657. "lol"
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espn planted it

  

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658. "oh. these dumb fucks got free cars???? mwahahahahaha."
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660. "Well not "free". They just paid zero dollars for them."
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There IS a difference.

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664. "or $13,700...but the facts clearly aren't what's important here"
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I'm sure ESPN won't be reporting this...


http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2011/05/11/older-title-shows-player-paid-13700-for-his-car.html?sid=101

Ohio State football: Older title shows player paid $13,700 for his car
University, BMV investigating vehicle sales to athletes, families
Wednesday, May 11, 2011 03:05 AM

By Jill Riepenhoff and Mike Wagner
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH
Previous coverage



As Ohio State University and the Ohio Bureau of Motor Vehicles continue separate investigations into athletes' automobile purchases, one mystery has been solved.

BMV records show that former linebacker Thaddeus Gibson paid $13,700 for a 2007 Chrysler 300C that he bought from former Jack Maxton salesman Aaron Kniffin in June 2007.

The Dispatch reported last week that the title to Gibson's car listed the purchase price as zero. Jack Maxton owner Jeff Mauk said he couldn't explain the reason.

But a prior title on the vehicle obtained by The Dispatch yesterday shows that the car with 13,760 miles was purchased on June 27, 2007, and financed through Huntington National Bank. The title without a purchase price was issued on March 6, 2008, with Huntington still listed as the lender.

Gibson said last week that he still is making payments on the car.

Ohio State and the BMV launched investigations last week after The Dispatch found that eight athletes and several athletes' relatives had purchased used cars from the same salesman when he worked at two different dealerships.

OSU is looking for possible NCAA violations in which athletes received benefits not offered to the general public.

The BMV is investigating because Kniffin said the purchase prices listed on transactions with OSU athletes and relatives do not reflect accurate sales prices, as required by Ohio law.

Kniffin has said that he sold more than four dozen cars to OSU athletes between 2006 and 2009 while working at Jack Maxton in Worthington and then Auto Direct on the Northeast Side.

But he did not sell a car to Maurice Wells' mother, as previously reported. The car, which was registered to her and Wells' stepfather when they lived in Maryland, was used as a trade-in when Maurice bought his first vehicle from Kniffin in 2006.

Records show that Kniffin has been a game-day guest of unnamed players to four football games: Michigan, Michigan State and Wisconsin in 2007 and Youngstown State in 2008.

His former boss at Auto Direct, Jason Goss, was a players' guest at the 2007 National Championship, the Penn State game in 2008 and the 2009 Fiesta Bowl, according to Ohio State records.

Kniffin said yesterday that he and his family have been unfairly harassed in the past week.

Kniffin acknowledges that he developed relationships with the players and their families, but he said they represent a small percentage of his customers and that others had final say on car sales.

Dispatch reporter Randy Ludlow contributed to this story.

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665. "good timing"
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666. "deeds for 0 normally mean its going from one family member"
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to another. My mom "sold" me her car for 0 when she got a new one so I could get my own insurance/she could stop paying for me + I could get an MA license instead of having to go to NJ every time i needed to get it inspected, etc.

Otherwise, there's no reason for a new deed unless the old one was lost or something. that's just weird.

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667. "sounds like gibson was trying to avoid paying sales tax to me"
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or at least that's a likely scenario...

i still blame hip-hop.

  

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668. "its a 30k car new so thats still less than half of the cars value"
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its a 2007 with 13k miles on it that he bought in 2007 for $13k. thats still fishy as hell.

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671. "its a USED car...how can you speculate on its value?"
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there could be a billion things wrong with it...or it could be like new. not to mention at the time of purchase cars were going for way under value. the KBB price is worthless. i just bought a pre-owned for about 7k below KBB. it's what the customer is willing to pay.

anyway we have no idea what the deal is with gibson's car and neither does the dispatch which is why its shoddy reporting. its called throwing shit at a wall and hoping it sticks. this one isn't gonna stick but it was enough to get OSU more negative PR...so mission accomplished.

every car transaction is closely regulated by compliance and the state so if there's any funny business it's on them. but there are much better ways of hooking your players up then by putting free cars on the books. cmon.

  

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673. "Ask for the CarFAX!!!"
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674. "WRONG...espn on it"
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>I'm sure ESPN won't be reporting this...

http://espn.go.com/blog/bigten/post/_/id/26503/new-info-shows-osus-gibson-paid-for-car

While Ohio State's compliance department continues to review used-car sales involving athletes and their relatives, concerns about one talked-about transaction can be put to rest.

The Columbus Dispatch reports Tuesday that former Ohio State defensive end/linebacker Thaddeus Gibson did, in fact, pay for a car he purchased in 2007. An older title on the vehicle shows Gibson paid $13,700 for a 2007 Chrysler 300C that he bought from salesman Aaron Kniffin at the Jack Maxton dealership. The current title on the car shows the purchase price at $0, as originally reported, but Gibson told the newspaper that he's still making payments on the car and the new report verifies it.

Although Ohio State isn't out of the woods, the truth about Gibson's situation certainly is a good sign. Having been on several radio shows to discuss the Ohio State situation since the initial Dispatch report came out, I can say the Gibson car sale was brought up more than once.

Another tidbit in Tuesday's Dispatch report is that Kniffin didn't sell a car to the mother of former Ohio State running back Maurice Wells. The car, registered to Wells' mother and step-father, was used as a trade-in when Maurice Wells bought a car from Kniffin in 2006.

  

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LegacyNS
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659. "http://i52.tinypic.com/2lsd645.gif"
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661. "I can't believe I haven't posted in here yet"
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But since this will UNDOUBTEDLY be archived, I'm in here lol

  

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663. "They need him suspended for a full year, no contact with OSU."
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Minimum.

Shit is now joke-level bad at this point.

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669. "he's gone"
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the school is going to let the ncaa be the bad guy, but make no mistake, dude is out.

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670. "ironically putting a show-cause on him only affects other schools"
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it has no impact unless he leaves o$u

  

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672. "*doing my part to get this to 700 by 5/30/2010*"
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675. "Spielman says he's done"
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http://www.10tv.com/live/content/osufootball/stories/2011/05/12/story-columbus-ohio-state-football-chris-spielman-tressel.html?sid=102

  

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676. "Any good cheaters out there for them to replace the Vest with?"
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Preferably one with a gimmicky wardrobe....

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680. "that's the funny part"
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should they can tressel, we'll undoubtedly be hiring someone who cheats 20x worse, will have a lower APR and will fill a roster with more players finding their way into the police blotters. and instead of beating yall 42-7 we'll beat you 72-7. it'll be a real laugh fest for sure.

  

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681. "clearly you're happy about it. "
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687. "ummmmmmm no....i would be very dissapointed"
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but would be realistic in what would probably be coming next.

for michigan fans that think OSU would go into retard mode and hire a coach that sucks ass on and off the the field a la dick rod...keep dreaming.

for any fan that thinks someone is going to come in and run a 'cleaner' program than tressel (and maintains it as a successful program)...they should keep dreaming too.

but this isn't really about 'cleaning up' anything.

  

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683. "so are you now conceeding that Vest will be gone?"
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just trying to see where we're at with it, I haven't been in this thread in awhile.

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684. "PS cheating is okay as long as your offense is boring"
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and you dont run up the score

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689. "PS cheating is ok as long your program goes irrelevant in the process"
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i mean we got one fan of a program that nearly received the death penalty and another one of a program on probation...

the moral outrage here is pretty funny.

  

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690. "u lost me here...."
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>i mean we got one fan of a program that nearly received the
>death penalty and another one of a program on probation...
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>the moral outrage here is pretty funny.

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696. "michigan is on probation, right?"
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685. "no, i think he stays"
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677. ""
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Updated: November 10, 2004, 10:45 AM ET
My Side
By Tom Friend
ESPN The Magazine

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=1919246

He left on a Greyhound bus last May, without a goodbye, without anyone even flipping him the bird. He left unceremoniously, in the middle of the week, with one suitcase, one jacket and one championship he doubted was worth its weight in paper. He left behind the car dealerships, where he says the head coach got him SUVs. He left behind the library, where he says tutors got him bogus A's. He left behind the two-story homes, where he says he got paid for watching paint dry.

He left behind the stucco mansions, where he says boosters slipped him cash for playing Sega with their kids. And he left behind the horseshoe stadium, where he says one man in particular "sold me out".

He never told his mother he was fleeing Columbus, fleeing Ohio, fleeing the racist hate mail she'd already handed over to the FBI. He was too depressed to tell her, but too persona non grata to stay.

He sat alone on that bus for four days. Sat there clearing his mind. Sat there until he saw the Pacific Ocean. He pressed his head against the window and stretched his legs across two seats, and replayed all of his thoughts: the NFL won't let me in. They hate me. They think I don't work hard. They think I'm poison. They don't know the half of it. They don't know the lie.

He got to Hollywood and liked that he could actually walk the streets and not hear: There goes Maurice Clarett. He slept on a buddy's floor, and laid off the carbs, and hoped by this autumn, his second season away from football, his name wouldn't still be synonymous with scandal. But no chance. His associates called several NFL GMs this October and asked them, "What's your perception of Clarett?" And the consensus was the same: immature. Risky. No work ethic. Fourth round.

It angered him, because he thought his college coach, Jim Tressel, the coach he claims he protected in an NCAA investigation, would have set those GMs straight. Would have told them how Clarett used to close down the weight room, how he once returned from knee surgery like it was the flu, how they never would've beaten Miami without him.

"I thought he'd give me the NFL," Maurice Clarett says. "I thought he'd say, 'You took from me and you didn't tell on me, so here's the NFL.' He could have painted me as the first pick in the draft, as the world's greatest everything. He wound up selling me out."

Now, Clarett is a football pariah, denounced by his own school, a school he carried to a national championship almost two years ago. According to one NFL GM, Ohio State athletic director Andy Geiger disparaged Clarett's character to league officials last spring, leading some teams to take Clarett off their draft board. "The AD just didn't like Clarett, for whatever reason," the GM says.

But few know why Clarett kept answering "I don't know" to the NCAA's questions. The NCAA kept asking where he got his cash, cars and trinkets, and Clarett claims he kept saying "I don't know" or "I just magically got them" or "I don't remember." Geiger was furious with him for that, and the NCAA ran him out for that. But Clarett says he lied to save his coach's hide, lied because he thought his coach would convince Geiger to keep him eligible, lied because he didn't want to implicate the men in Columbus with deep pockets.

"He's ineligible because he declined to tell the truth 17 times during an investigation," Geiger says, while refusing to comment on Clarett's specific allegations. "If you want to give him credibility when he's been unable to tell the truth under any circumstance since I've been around him, I'm not going to respond."

But, says Clarett, "what would've become of Ohio State if I said everything? Half the team would've been suspended, and it would've been worse for everybody. I was like, why don't I just take it?"

He thought Tressel would return the favor and protect him, but instead he was suspended indefinitely. Then, he says, he was stripped of teachers, tutors and perks. He calls it an institutional "blackball." That's why he sits in front of a tape recorder now, 14 months later, so he can tell the NFL GMs that there's another side to this story. That's why he's making claims about free rides, free cash, free grades and an Ohio State system that he says lined his pockets and then methodically tore him down.

"Ohio State created me," Maurice Clarett says right off the top. "They created what they suspended."

TO HEAR him talk, his college classes were a sham. Maurice Clarett graduated from high school a semester early and arrived at Ohio State in January 2002. Before long, he says, his grades were literally guaranteed. He describes a system that kept him and other players eligible and was overseen by the football program. He says his "grades were messed up" early on, that he wasn't supposed to be eligible for spring practice or the opening of training camp, but that his coaches simply fixed the problem. "As soon as they'd seen me struggle, they switched academic advisers for me," Clarett says. "He turned me on to a tutor, and then we were cool.

"The tutor is a professor at the school. I'd sit there with a notepad, and I'd be playing or talking on the phone, and he'd just outline everything in the book, and say, 'This is what you write for your paper.' He'd take a notepad and say, 'Write this, write that.'

"And they'd tell you like, the old test from winter '02 is going to be the test for January '03. Or the fall of '01 is going to be the next test. They tell you how the tests rotate."

As Clarett moved into his debut season in the fall of 2002, about to be the first true freshman running back to start a season opener at Ohio State, he realized everything was aligned to prevent his academic failure. If it wasn't tutors doing "research" for him, it was academic advisers registering him in courses friendly to the football program.

"My classes were all independent study," he says. "So I'd show up in like the eighth week of the quarter and do something for the last two weeks, and I'd be fine. A lot of times, during classes, I'd be in the weight room lifting. The coaches would be like, 'You get your class done?' I'd be like, 'I'll get it done the last two weeks.'"

Clarett says his adviser mapped out his course schedule, put him in easy classes and told him which teachers were on his side. For example, he says he almost never attended one African-American and African studies class, and when he did, it wasn't difficult to cheat. "It was probably like a 40-person class, and 30 of them were football players," he says.

A former member of OSU's academic support staff, who requested anonymity, confirms Clarett's initial grades were "in bad shape," and that Clarett was given a tutor who "only had a few weeks to get him ready for exams" and keep him eligible. "We helped Maurice with, 'How can I survive, how can I get a good grade on a test,'" the former staffer says. "We understand the system. But that doesn't mean we did his work. Players like to brag that people are helping them out. It's a sign of status."

Clarett wasn't naïve. He had suspected before he arrived in Columbus that he'd have privileges. "Any kid from Ohio will know," he says. "It's kind of a tradition. If you play good at Ohio State, you get taken care of." But living it was another experience. The favors, he says, began his first day on campus, in January 2002. There were no unoccupied dorm rooms that day, he says, and a staff member told him to stay in a hotel. "I ain't got no money," Clarett said. He says the staff member simply put it on a credit card.

That summer, Clarett says, the staff began finding him phantom jobs to put money in his pocket. He says it was the responsibility of running backs coach Dick Tressel, Jim's brother and then associate director of football operations, to find jobs for guys on the team. "If you're a walk-on, you're going to get a real job," Clarett explains. "But if you're a player, you go water some flowers for like four hours, and they pay you like a couple hundred. Sometimes you don't show up and you still get paid.

"That was my introduction to 'here comes all the free money.' I did show up at first. But I was like, this is boring, I ain't doing this. I used to go watch 'em hang drywall or something. I'd just hang out, go to McDonald's, come back, watch, leave, be gone. I made a couple grand."

By the fall, he says, the staff was "aligning" him with boosters who'd give him money for food, or for the shopping mall. He says coaches would tell him, go eat here and say hello to this person, or go to this school and talk, or go to this event and speak. Do this and when you leave, someone is going to set you straight.

"They got a little thing where you read books every Friday for kids. And you'll magically meet somebody there. Mr. Such-and-Such will be there. And then you meet Mr. Such-and-Such, and Mr. Such-and-Such becomes your friend for a while."

And how much cash would Mr. Such-and-Such pass along?

"Depends how you played that week," Clarett says.

After a 175-yard game? "It was in the thousands," says Clarett, who had 175 yards in the 2002 season opener against Texas Tech. "That was cool."

How would the cash change hands? "It'd get filtered down," Clarett says. "Me and a player would go into a coach's office. And the coach would be like, 'You met my friend Such-and-Such? He's a good friend of the program. You should check him out sometime.' You go over to his house, you meet him for dinner. You go play with their kids, meet their kids. The boosters know you're in college and need help. They're like, 'You got any money in your pocket?' They make sure you're straight."

Clarett lived 15 minutes from campus, so he also needed a car. He says he took that request right to the head coach. "My transmission blew in my car, a Cadillac. So I'm like, 'Coach Tressel, I can't get back and forth to campus.' This is probably after practice, 6 o'clock, 5 o'clock one night. He gets on the phone and says, this is where I get my car from. He called the man from McDaniel Automotive. He's like, 'I got a player here, Maurice Clarett. He needs a car. Do you have a car out there he can use?'

"So the man gets on the phone with me and says, 'What kind of cars do you like?' I say, 'Got any trucks?' He says, 'Yeah, I got two trucks. I got an Expedition and I got a Tahoe here right now.' He's like, 'I'll be there tomorrow morning.' They drove down to give me the car."

Clarett says he kept the Tahoe for 11 days, then switched to the Expedition. NCAA Rule 16.12.2.3 states that an institutional employee or representative of the institution's athletic interests is not allowed to provide a student athlete with the use of an automobile. According to Clarett, that is exactly what his head coach did. "This is what Jim Tressel arranged," Clarett says.

He says as long as he was running the football well, Tressel was attentive, asking, "You cool? How's your living situation?" He says they talked three or four times a week, always behind closed doors. "We never talked in front of anybody else," Clarett says. "It was always, 'Come to my office.'"

As the season wore on, he says the car swapping escalated, and the dealerships had no qualms about accommodating him. "When you're hot in Columbus, you just go," Clarett says. "Somebody's going to recognize your face. You say, 'I need to use a car.' 'Okay, here you go.'"

He says he'd keep the cars "for weeks, until I got tired of 'em." His favorite was the Lexus SC 430 sports car, but he tried to borrow anything that was new at the time. "Put it like this," he says. "There's a dealership on Morse Road, The Car Store. They've got a used car lot. You just go to the dealership, and go and go and keep on going. That's the car dealership Coach Tressel introduced me to, that and McDaniel Automotive. Both places set me up. I wouldn't have known these places if it wasn't for Ohio State."

The perks made for a plush season. It didn't hurt that the Buckeyes were on their way to the national title game. The week they defeated archrival Michigan was Clarett's favorite week. He says coaches excused players from classes leading up to the game, and that after the 14-9 victory, boosters stopped by flashing their money clips.

"I couldn't have asked for more," Clarett says.

"I had the money I wanted, the car I wanted. I literally, literally had everything. My freshman year, being 19. If I wanted to call a girl, I could've called any girl I wanted, probably, in Ohio. If I wanted any car to drive, I could go to a dealership and get it. If I wanted some clothes, I had the money to put clothes on my back.

"And then, within a matter of months, everything got taken away. Every single thing. I'm talking from A to Z. I'd call people and they're, 'Uhhhh, I'm too busy right now.' The clubs that used to let me in? 'Uhhhh, not today.' The girls? 'Uhhh, I'm too busy right now.' Everybody became unavailable.

"I had nothing."

THE FALL was in stages, and was in part self-inflicted. Maurice Clarett knows he was wrong to have his hand out. And he also knows now he was wrong to assume Ohio State would always have his back, especially after he called them "liars" before the biggest game of his life. When he asked to attend the funeral of a childhood buddy in the week leading up to the Fiesta Bowl, he says he had initial approval to take a red-eye from Phoenix to Youngstown. But, he claims, Ohio State pulled the plug on the trip just hours before the flight. The school contended that Clarett hadn't filed the necessary paperwork to get permission to go. Clarett-who says he knocked on Tressel's door crying that night-told the media that Ohio State wasn't telling the truth.

"It was real big," he says. " 'Clarett calls Ohio State a bunch of liars.' "

Ohio State went on to win the national title, and Clarett scored the winning touchdown. But as far as Clarett is concerned, the minute he called out his school was the minute he was sent to an island. The boosters were the first to abandon him. "They didn't help me out," he says, "because I ran my mouth."

But he was still "switching cars like crazy." On the night of April 16, 2003, he borrowed a luxury vehicle from The Car Store, a loaded black 2001 Monte Carlo, just purchased at auction. He drove it to practice the next morning, and while he was working out he learned it had been burglarized. He says he called Tressel, asking him what to do, and says Tressel advised him to phone campus police. Records show he called them from a phone in the football office.

He met a campus policeman at the car. When he was asked what was missing, Clarett says he told him assorted TVs, radios and CDs, plus his wallet and some clothes. The cop asked how much the TVs and radios were worth, and Clarett says he could only guess because it was a borrowed car, a car he'd had for only 12 hours. He says the cop also asked how many CDs were in the car, and Clarett guessed there were two cases containing up to 300. The cop, agreeing with his guess and assuming each CD cost $15, added it all up.

So the unsigned police report listed the following stolen items: cash ($800), various audio components ($5,000), clothing ($300), two CD cases with a total of 300 CDs (estimated $4,500) and a black leather bi-fold. Total: $10,150.

Clarett thought the news of the break-in might go public, but it didn't. He never filed an insurance claim because the stolen items weren't his. When school ended in the spring, he simply moved on, leaving the team's practice facility to work with a personal trainer in Cleveland. He soon sensed Tressel and his staff were riled, thinking they'd lost control of their star.

"I didn't care," Clarett says. "I was like, the hell with them. I'm not saying it to be cocky, but people in town thought I had become bigger than Ohio State. The thing at the Fiesta Bowl had made everything real big, and they thought I needed to be brought down."

Soon he received an urgent phone call from the athletic department. The NCAA wanted to see him. They told him to bring an attorney.

MAYBE IT was all the buzzing around in that Lexus. Or maybe it was the costly break-in. But by the spring of 2003, the NCAA had serious problems with Maurice Clarett.

On May 5, the NCAA first contacted Ohio State about him, and on June 26, Clarett and the only attorney he knew-personal injury lawyer Scott Schiff-first met with investigators. They asked about the break-in. Tressel, according to reports, was vague about his knowledge of it.

Soon, the leaks started. On July 12 The New York Times reported that Clarett and other players had received preferential academic treatment, that Clarett had walked out of an exam and been allowed to take an oral retest. The school responded by saying it would investigate academic standards for athletes (they ultimately said they found no wrongdoing). Geiger said there had been no special treatment for Clarett or any other athletes at the school.

On July 29, news of the Monte Carlo break-in finally went public, and the next day Tressel and Geiger announced that Clarett couldn't rejoin the team until issues about his eligibility were settled. By Aug. 22 the punishment had become a "multigame" suspension. Then on Sept. 10, Geiger announced that Clarett was done for the year for violating NCAA Bylaws 10.1 (not giving forthright answers) and 12 (taking benefits).

After Geiger made his announcement, Clarett refused comment-he claims Ohio State asked him not to talk-but he now claims he violated Bylaw 10.1 to protect Tressel and violated Bylaw 12 because of Tressel.

He says during the investigation that the NCAA rifled through credit card statements and asked, "How are you affording $800 worth of clothes from Macy's?" He says he told them he "magically" got the cash from his mother. When the NCAA asked how he paid for his food and gasoline, he started with the "I don't knows."

The NCAA asked about the Chevy Tahoe, the one he'd kept for 11 days, and he played dumb. "They asked, 'How did you get the car?'" Clarett says. "I said, 'I looked up the dealer's number in the phone book.' So they go investigating and find out the number isn't even in the phone book. They said, 'Did you get this car through Coach Tressel?' I'm like, 'Nah.' They suspended me for that." They also suspended him for the break-in, claiming he'd lied about the cost of the stolen items. "I didn't lie, I guessed," he says.

But by then he had begun to see the hypocrisy of it all. He was also being suspended for his relationship with Bobby Dellimuti, a caterer and family friend from Youngstown who gave Clarett and his mother upward of $2,000 while he was still in high school. At first Clarett lied and told the NCAA that Dellimuti gave him nothing. But eventually he came clean about a $500 check and $1,000 worth of cell-phone bills Dellimuti had paid for him since the 11th grade. Because Clarett hadn't known Dellimuti before his recruitment by Ohio State, these gifts were a violation of NCAA rules. This confounded Clarett. He says Ohio State gave him much more money than that, but, in the end, these cell-phone bills were what was helping to derail his sophomore season.

Sitting in the room with Geiger and NCAA officials, Clarett says he nearly lost his cool: "I said, 'If you're suspending me for stuff I did back in high school, I was never eligible to play anyway. So the trophy should be taken back, right?'

"Geiger just said, 'No, no, no, no. That has nothing to do with it. Just answer the questions.'"

And that was the hang-up; Clarett wasn't answering questions. "I was trying to protect Coach Tressel, the boosters and everybody," he claims. "There were all kind of bills I had run up that boosters just gave me cash for. And I couldn't explain to the NCAA where I got it from.

"During the investigation, they started asking, 'Did anybody else get benefits?' And I'm sitting there thinking to myself, 'I'm going through four-hour interviews. If I tell on anyone, you're going to bring him in, and he's going to have four-hour interviews. It was more than 10 people. It was more than 20 people.

"The NCAA was, 'Are you sure you don't want to say anything about anybody else? And Mr. Geiger was like, 'Are you sure?' Inside, I'm like, 'Are you crazy?' The only thing that matters at Ohio State is football. Everybody knows what's going on, but everybody doesn't want to act like they know."

In September, the Columbus City attorney began to prosecute Clarett for the police report. The attorney said Clarett had falsified it. Clarett maintained he'd guessed at it, but rather than go to trial he accepted a plea bargain and paid a $100 fine to put the ordeal behind him.

But he was being vilified in town, and by December, he says, he'd received hate mail and a death threat. He was sure it was all payback for his one big mistake: dissing Ohio State at the Fiesta Bowl. "They were thinking, 'How do we get him back?'" Clarett says. "They called me a liar. 'He lied about his police report. He lied during his investigation.'"

Clarett thought there was one person who could help. But he couldn't get that person on the phone. "I couldn't talk to Coach Tressel," Clarett says. "He was making himself unavailable.

"We had so many meetings before that Coach Tressel just saved me in. I think he knows in his heart he sold me out. He sold me out to keep his integrity. I don't know if it was the pressure from the athletic department saying, 'You got to sell him out.' But he sold me out.

"Coach Tressel, he made everything easy ... until he wanted to make it hard."

CLARETT BEGAN to believe that Ohio State was squeezing him. He was allowed on the sideline for the 2003 home games, then he wasn't. He could play on the scout team, then he couldn't. He had his tutors, then he didn't.

He says he went to Tressel in January 2004, asking for a scenario that could land him back on the field. Months before, Tressel and Geiger had said publicly that the door was open for a return if he paid back the Dellimuti money to charity, stayed eligible and showed "personal growth." But in January, he says, Tressel told him he wouldn't consider a reinstatement unless Clarett met two more conditions. He had to work out every day at 6 a.m. for the next two months. And he had to maintain a 3.5 GPA.

Clarett has never been a morning person, nor had he ever had to pay much attention to his GPA. "For me, it was either eligible or not eligible," he says. But he went to his academic adviser to ask what classes to take. He was surprised at the response: "Maurice, you have to sign up for your own schedule now."

He enrolled in another African-American and African studies class with the teacher he had before. But after a week, he says this professor barred him from the course, and Clarett claims she told him "somebody from a higher power" had instigated the move. "They blackballed me," Clarett says.

With no tutors or teachers in his hip pocket, he felt a 3.5 GPA was improbable if not impossible. And when he told Tressel the 6 a.m. workouts were too extreme, he says Tressel's response was, "If you make that decision, you have to make another decision." So Clarett quit school in February 2004 and applied for early entry into the NFL draft.

We all know the rest. A court ruling put him in the draft, another court ruling took him out, and when the Supreme Court wouldn't overturn the final ruling, Clarett was in limbo. No school, no NFL, no nothing.

His mother, Michelle, was despondent. She remembered the day Tressel sat in her home and promised to treat Maurice like his own son. What did she think of Tressel now? She doesn't know where to begin. "Is it betrayal? Is it disrespect? Is it dishonesty? Is it deceit? Is it a knife in my back?"

SO HE got on that Greyhound. By this time, so much more was in his head. A gun shot had been fired into his mother's home. Then, in February, ESPN reported that Dellimuti had made frequent calls to online offshore bookies, and Clarett was forced to answer questions about his friend's betting.

He likes that no one in Columbus knew where he was headed. And as the miles rolled by, he devised a plan. He needed NFL GMs to know that he hadn't been the nuisance at Ohio State that he was made out to be. And the best way to convince them of that was to open his mouth. "It wasn't like I stole something," he says. "Not like I was running from the law or dragging a girl down the stairs. But I have to clear myself up now, because it's affecting the minds of the GMs. I didn't say anything before, because I didn't think it'd be a problem."

So that's why he's sitting in front of a tape recorder. He says he wants to make it clear he didn't do it to get Ohio State in hot water, that he is "still a Buckeye at heart." But that said, he also thinks Ohio State "is going to try to ruin me now," that they will "bring in their high-powered lawyers and alumni" to discredit him, that they may badmouth him again to the NFL, that they may try to get his mother fired from her job as a county clerk.

He says that would hurt, but the story's out now. He's hoping to play in the East West Shrine Game and the Senior Bowl this January, his first games in two years, and he also hopes to show off his reinvented body at the NFL combine in February. At last year's combine, his body fat was a flabby 16%, but this time he plans to pare it down to under 5%. "I'm working," Maurice Clarett says. "I'm up every morning at 6 a.m."

At that hour, he's all alone again.
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678. "nice piece"
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my favorite part:

"so if i was never eligible we ought to give that trophy back"

"no no no no"

  

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688. "Wow. "
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679. "nebraska and wisconsin both night games....LETS DO THIS SON!!!!"
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holy fuck will that be an epic 2 weeks of football

  

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682. "For who?"
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>holy fuck will that be an epic 2 weeks of football
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686. "for OSU fans, people that like watching big 10 football, etc."
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>>holy fuck will that be an epic 2 weeks of football

  

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691. "practice squad osu vs. Nebraska is gonna be great"
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692. "first week back for the Tat 5"
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hopefully GameDay will say fuck OU/UT Red River Rivalry for once, and come to Lincoln....

but I imagine they do the Wisky/NU game in Madison the week before because of NU's Big Ten debut

  

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693. "Now THAT game is gonna be BANANAS<<<(thanks Gwen Stefani)"
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>but I imagine they do the Wisky/NU game in Madison the week
>before because of NU's Big Ten debut

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694. "reminds me of the late '80's, early '90's"
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fundamentally sound physical 'Husker team goes up against the talent and the athletes of the 'Canes

I think that's where Wisconsin is, they don't make mistakes and they are very physical, I'd like to think the talent and athletic edge goes to NU though

first real test for the new NU offense

the defense I'm not too worried about, last I knew Wisky hadn't found a QB

going to be tough sledding against the NU D-Line this year and Mr. 4.4 LaVonte David

  

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695. "gameday isn't at ou-texas THAT often"
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that just happens to be a week of massive rivalry games...

assuming texas hasn't REALLY improved i can't imagine gameday will be there, because they'll probably be in Tally for OU-FSU

i still blame hip-hop.

  

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697. "im sure tv ratings okp ratings will be terrible"
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698. "RE: Tressel E-Mails Released -- his career could be over (link)"
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...a child is born with no state of mind, blind to the ways of mankind, god is smilin' on you and frownin' too, because only god knows what you gonna do...©melle mel

  

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699. "RE: Tressel E-Mails Released -- his career could be over (link)"
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...a child is born with no state of mind, blind to the ways of mankind, god is smilin' on you and frownin' too, because only god knows what you gonna do...©melle mel

  

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700. "wild hunnids"
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...a child is born with no state of mind, blind to the ways of mankind, god is smilin' on you and frownin' too, because only god knows what you gonna do...©melle mel

  

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701. "that school is makin the vest pay his own legal fees"
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cheater.

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702. "Buca di Beppo makes him pay for meals now too."
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Eater.

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703. "word on the street is more big, bad news is about to drop"
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Lololololol what a shitstain "university"

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704. "Snitches Man, Snitches (ESPN link)"
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http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6592185

  

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705. ""Rap snitches, tellin all they business" - Metal Fingers"
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He said the biggest advantages came from car dealerships.

"It was definitely the deals on the cars. I don't see why it's a big deal," said Small.
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No, I don't suppose you would.

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"Any OSU student in the past five years could tell you that a lot of the football players drive nice cars," Titus wrote. "You'd have to be blind to not notice it."

Small said there was no shortage of people trying to help Ohio State athletes.

"Everywhere you go, while you're in the process of playing at Ohio State," Small said, "you're going to get a deal every which way."

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714. "lol, as if ray small's knucklehead status hadnt already been certified"
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snitchin on cats you actually played with is something else

dude is getting destroyed on twitter by his teammates

  

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715. "Sure Small isn't the best source but it certainly can't help"
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I wouldn't image a starter or player in good standing with the program is going to come forward and start airing out all the dirt that goes on, that is why you get guys like Small, Clarett, and other discontent players coming forward. That also makes it a lot easier for people who support OSU to write guys like Small and Clarett off as just holding a grudge and telling lies.

  

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716. "its just more negative PR...which has already reached its apex"
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i expect the pile-on to continue well into next year.

but unless youre bringing forward hard evidence that can be proven in front of the ncaa then it all remains as PR/internet fodder.

  

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706. "3558"
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Days Vest has been cheatin in that smelly state.

So Cooper is the last coach to legitimately beat Michigan. Way to go Rich.

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707. "^^^ Just wedged in, like, 4 different agendas into 1 post"
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Nicely done.

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708. "http://www.gifsoup.com/view/85512/epic-godzilla-fight-o.gif"
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709. "does anybody still think Vest will coach another game for the Buckeyes?"
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710. "i'm hopin he doesn't suspend me!"
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i still blame hip-hop.

  

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711. "haha, that presser looks funnier every day"
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and by the way, I'm sorry I ever besmirched Bob Stoops' name by comparing this sanctimonious scumbag to him.

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712. "hmm...that might draw an aside in my forthcoming "
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2011 oklahoma wire to wire post.

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713. "yep"
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as of today, no new evidence/violations against tressel have come out since the email debacle.

if OSU was so deathly afraid of negative PR (or afraid of more shit being exposed) you'd think they would've canned him by now. why drag it out?

  

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717. "He's Gone(c)Jerry Garcia/Robert Hunter"
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this really hasn't been *that* dragged out when we're talking about the NCAA & a major college football program.

I would think OSU fans would want him gone too at this point, seems like the best way for them to move forward & avoid further NCAA penalties would be to sacrifice Vest.

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718. "RE: He's Gone(c)Jerry Garcia/Robert Hunter"
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>this really hasn't been *that* dragged out when we're talking
>about the NCAA & a major college football program.

it's been 'dragged out' from a PR perspective. not to mention theres an issue of this year's recruiting class. if firing him was in the plans it wouldve been a whole lot easier to do so however many months ago compared to doing it in mid-august.

>I would think OSU fans would want him gone too at this point,

right. just like all the 'fans' that wanted him gone after the home loss to usc.

>& avoid
>further NCAA penalties would be to sacrifice Vest.


despite your immense insight and experience on such matters ill defer to the OSU administration/athletic dept on this. i think they know where they stand with the ncaa and know of whatever skeletons they have in their closet...and if the outlook was so bleak they would've taken the easy road already.

  

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719. "a respectable university would have canned his ass already, just off"
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what's already been reported.

I know their athletic department feels beholden to that phony fuck for fluking his way into winning their only title in 40 or so years but shit, UCLA canned Jim Harrick for way less & he won their only post-Wooden title.

The fact that OSU is waiting for the next shoe to drop before taking action is laughable, however that day is coming.

By the time he would have been done whatever suspension he disingenously tried to give himself after being caught in no less than three major lies, he will be gone.

I'd lay money on it.

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720. "u know nothing, lol"
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>I know their athletic department

youre going off the same rumor mill blogoshpere bullshit (tressel resigns on christmas eve!) that everyone else is going off of...stop pretending like you have any hint of insight on whats actually going on.


>I'd lay money on it.

i dont like okp bets but im up for a friendly $10 wager on this one

  

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721. "RE: u know nothing, lol"
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>>I know their athletic department
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>>I'd lay money on it.
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>i dont like e-bets but im up for a friendly $10 wager on this
>one
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Done.

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726. "you can keep the ten spot, this wasn't even a fair fight"
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you were obviously too inVESTed to be thinking clearly.

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722. "http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c90/bgbill/ostrich-burying-head.jpg"
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724. "LULZ PART 2"
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<-- BAUGH SO HARD

  

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