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Because that is why they suck.... its a curse.

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spot on

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sh't ain't got ah't to do with sh't is what i'm saying. what's your excuse? the curse of jessica simpson?

And I believe the "official curse" occurred at the last Super Bowl, where there was a group of Native Americans calling for the name change (in the national spotlight of the Super Bowl).

I believe, if you follow the history of the team, that we've petty much been cursed since that game. In fact the ownership to Snyder is actually an extension of the curse.

It couldn't hurt to change the name, karma-wise, but considering the way this guy is holding on the the name in the face of these offended people, is it any wonder?

Also, is this not what a cursed franchise looks like, if there ecer was one?

Just saying...

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Bench Campbell, and put in a young QB to get some experie-- oh wait, all you have is Collins. All hope is lost.

so I was wondering if they still had him.

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He's not available this year.

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cant really fire Zorn because the coach you want wont be avail RIGHT now

and even if he was

no one wants to walk into a season like this

i will say DONT bench Campbell
even though he seemingly has no more excuses

honestly he is a victim of bad playcalling/schemes

some qb's are good enough to overcome bad coaching
he is not

Let Zorn and Lewis work together on the play calling for the remainder of the season. Leave all coaching decisions to Zorn from here on out. Obviously, you can't let him dump Lewis because that'll just add to the image of instability on the team.

After the season, get rid of Zorn and Cerrato immediately. Apologize to Zorn for putting him in an impossible situation and thank him for his efforts. Hire a proven head coach and give him full control. Hire a competent GM. Make sure the coach and GM have a good working relationship. Let them build the team.

Release a statement apologizing to the fans for years of meddling and terrible management. Stress that you're committed to building a winning team the right away and that you've learned your lesson.

Stop suing fans. Stop charging fans to tailgate. Put all merchandise on sale at Redskins stores in the area.

He pretty much can solve the coach and GM problem at the same time...he also might still have a good rapport with Portis. He can hire the staff to either work with Campbell to make him at the very least more effective, or scout and draft/trade for an upgrade at QB.

Should Snyder go all out and hire Shanahan and let him clean house?

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But really, that doesn't matter. Portis is on his last legs at this point so if they could bring in a guy like Shanahan and Snyder could leave him alone and let him do his thing, that would be more important than how he gets along with any player currently on that team. Other than Haynesworth, do they even have a single player who couldn't be replaced?

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Fire Zorn. Fire the OC. Fire the GM. Cut Portis. Cut Campbell and Collins. Maybe change the team name. And try to get a receiver or TE over 6'. But there's nothing he can do this year. They're done.

Preferably Shanahan because he will save you money by drafting sixth round running backs.

He'll develop JC into a qb that's a pro bowler. You keep the defensive coordinator and stop treating free agency like it's a fantasy draft and the Skins are back on top.

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"root for everybody black haters say that's crazy, wow..."

Come down from his house on the hill and acknowledge us common folk and give us the apology we're owed. He needs to sound deeply regretful, then announce the firing of Cerrato, and then insist that the way things are done will change. That's really all he can do right this minute, but just him being more visible would show that he at least knows it sucks right now and that he's not entirely out of touch.

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Snyder very much wants someone who is a yes man that will let the higher powers stick their noses into the decision-making process. Zorn isn't particularly charismatic, and he didn't have any NFL head coaching/playcalling experience, but he got the job because (a) no self-respecting great coach will go to an organization where the front office butts in like the Skins' office does, and (b) Zorn was the BEST AVAILABLE OPTION. Think about that. Zorn, the nutless charismaless ghost currently serving as head coach was the best offer. Now even folks with ZORN'S credentials are going to look at that job and say, "Fuck that, unless they overpay my unqualified ass, I'm not going."

Cowher's not coming. Shanahan's not coming. Gruden's not coming. You're delusional if you think they are.

Until they let a knowledgeable man run the football operations, without major interference from upstairs, Zorn is literally the best coach that the Skins can get. Literally.

I know Snyder HAS to do something to keep the fans happy, and needs to put a head on the platter, but there is nothing to do other than fire Cerrato, vow to stay away from football operations, and wait until year's end. Jason Campbell can't be played, because he's so shaken up by getting hit so often that you can see him watching the rush rather than looking downfield during the games. Clinton Portis works hard, but shouldn't be played until his leg has healed, which would take months and months. They have no young backup QB, and Ladell Betts isn't a young backup talent at RB, so it's not like they can even "build into next season." There's nothing to do.

And the sad part is, Skins fans? You know Snyder won't do this. He's gonna fire Zorn, keep Cerrato, draft a shitty new QB in the draft, and maintain the status quo.

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If Snyder offers Gruden $15M a year he'd take it in a heartbeat.

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all of snyders coaches except zorn have been given power and control over personnel decisions. i am sure most of the top coaches will find that and a 8M dollar check pretty attractive. Plus Snyder almost always gets what he wants. blache and sherm lewis both worked with gruden, shanahan, and holmgren. the team is gonna be a comfortable fit for one of those three.

giving the coach too much power has been the problem more so than the front office butting in too much. Gibbs and spurrier were garbage GMs, as most coaches are, and the team has lacked a legit player personnel guy becuase of it.

Every new coach has a new system, the player acquisition continuity got effed up. the team would actually be better off sticking with Vinny and letting him find the right coach over time.



>Snyder very much wants someone who is a yes man that will let
>the higher powers stick their noses into the decision-making
>process. Zorn isn't particularly charismatic, and he didn't
>have any NFL head coaching/playcalling experience, but he got
>the job because (a) no self-respecting great coach will go to
>an organization where the front office butts in like the
>Skins' office does, and (b) Zorn was the BEST AVAILABLE
>OPTION. Think about that. Zorn, the nutless charismaless ghost
>currently serving as head coach was the best offer. Now even
>folks with ZORN'S credentials are going to look at that job
>and say, "Fuck that, unless they overpay my unqualified ass,
>I'm not going."
>
>Cowher's not coming. Shanahan's not coming. Gruden's not
>coming. You're delusional if you think they are.
>
>Until they let a knowledgeable man run the football
>operations, without major interference from upstairs, Zorn is
>literally the best coach that the Skins can get. Literally.
>
>I know Snyder HAS to do something to keep the fans happy, and
>needs to put a head on the platter, but there is nothing to do
>other than fire Cerrato, vow to stay away from football
>operations, and wait until year's end. Jason Campbell can't be
>played, because he's so shaken up by getting hit so often that
>you can see him watching the rush rather than looking
>downfield during the games. Clinton Portis works hard, but
>shouldn't be played until his leg has healed, which would take
>months and months. They have no young backup QB, and Ladell
>Betts isn't a young backup talent at RB, so it's not like they
>can even "build into next season." There's nothing to do.
>
>And the sad part is, Skins fans? You know Snyder won't do
>this. He's gonna fire Zorn, keep Cerrato, draft a shitty new
>QB in the draft, and maintain the status quo.


This skins team is built a lot like the Steelers and Giants teams of the last three years. I'm just saying...

you think someone like Gruden would turn down this job because of the danny? get serious. snyder or not, this is one of the most high-profile coaching gigs there is, and coming in now at a time when the franchise is near its lowpoint means things can only get better.

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but on the skins... what i'm seeing 'round these parts is the non-skins fans circling like vultures to laugh, mock and criticize while the emo skins fans are having a f'ckin pity party and crying themselves to sleep. look, we're bad this year. we could be great next year. it's the way the nfl works. geez

Look at vinny's record over the last two years - the only time he has really been in control:

Good personnel decisions:
Horton, Haynesworth, Blades, Orakpo, Jarmon, Dockery. Cut Jansen.

Suspect:
Hall, The second round of the 2008 draft. The good WRs from that draft are short speedsters. We already had ARE and Moss and needed big guys. quality WRs aren't frequently good off the jump anyway, so why don't these guys get some slack? Jason Campbell with no oline isnt helping them get the ball at all.

Bad:
Chad Rhinehart, Durant Brooks, Jason Taylor. Other than him, we havent had any archuleta/lloyd/ duckett signings and that was just a Snyder panic move.

So the o-line is abysmal and we all knew that before the season. Vinny should have done something about it. Nope. The d-line was old and the pass rush sucked too. haynesworth and orakpo were available and vinny did what he could with what was there. Dock was free, and he moved fast on that. Jarmon was available and the made that move. With the exception of Fletch and the D-ends, the defense is actually pretty young and talented. Might perform better if they weren't on the field for 80 plays.

The offseason was full of campbell/cutler/sanchez talk. After 7 weeks, the chatter seems justified. Maybe vinny knew the obvious which is that jason isnt a WCO QB.

The team sucks cuz the effing O-line is complete crap. That is something that was inherited from Gibbs and Joe Bugles overestimation of his players.


Not Vinny's fault.

>Maybe vinny knew the obvious which is that jason isnt a WCO QB.

VINNY BROUGHT IN THE WCO SYSTEM & COACH

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Any GM gets to create the team in his own vision. That doesn't mean you have to include the incumbent QB in the future if you don't think he is worth anything.

from the coach on down, and you're arguing he's done an 'ok' job?

Have you seen this team play? Are we talking about the NFL Washington Redskins?

VINNY hired Cerrato
VINNY refused to upgrade the OL for two straight seasons
VINNY wanted to trade MORE DRAFT PICKS away for Sanchez or Cutler

all of these things are/would have been MASSIVE FAILURES

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lets do better as fans. you just saw davis compete when given the chance. Kelly lost his first year to injury, how do we know how good or bad he really is. thomas very well may suck.

BUT

If you arent moss, megatron, or a certified first-round stud which none of the WRs in that draft were, then it does take time guys to develop.

That didn't make the team, Colt Brennan that was placed on IR yet let chase Daniel go?

you're buggin and I don't even know where to start.

HB Blades is special teamer that plays in injury situations. If he was that good he would've won the job outright.

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Not saying all of his decisions are great. Just that he is decent and far from the devil incarnate that people make him to be.

melodramatic redskins fans need scapegoats... realistic redskins fans know that every franchise has sh't years, and we're in the middle of one. things change in the nfl pretty fast. i'm not too concerned.

you think Cerrato has been "decent"?

he is, hands down, one of the worst "GMs" in the league.

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truth is, Gibbs and snyder effed up the team.

the fact the we owe portis and betts a combine zillion dollars over the next few years, instead of drafting young affordable ballers is on them two. the fact that we never drafted young linemen for the future and instead tried to win now with jansen and kendall, daniels, carter, etc is on them two. having no decent wrs besides moss and trading away picks for duckett and lloyd is on them two.

most of the teams weaknesses have little to do with what has actually happend over the last two years.

>the fact the we owe portis and betts a combine zillion dollars over
>the next few years, instead of drafting young affordable ballers is on
>them two

what do big contracts have to do with not having enough draft picks, and not drafting well with the ones we used?

draft picks are cheaper, not more expensive. Ports, et al, are irrelevant.

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stronger in the draft. what is wrong with that?

In 09, After Orakpo, Oher was the only OL taken in the first round. The talent wasnt there this draft. Maybe they should have taken oher, but orapko looks very good at least he doesnt look like the result of the worst gm in the league.

In 08, SIX lineman were taken before the skins could have picked. four were taken after. yeah they could have taken one for the sake of it, but if you dont have them dudes rated well and the best are off the board, what is the point?

and we could have drafted a couple great tackles in the '08 first round but we traded down. look at who Atlanta took with our pick.

what did Vinny do with our '09 2nd rounder? traded it for jason taylor
what did Vinny do with our '08 third rounder? drafted a guy who's career highlight to date is being active for 2 games.

2 NFL drafts and all Vinny has to show for our area of greatest need (OL) is Chad Rinehart.

Vinny inherited a great defense, and has managed to let a decent offense become terrible.

He hasn't done anything of note, and his offense is getting worse, not better.

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>Vinny inherited a great defense, and has managed to let a
>decent offense become terrible.
>
>He hasn't done anything of note, and his offense is getting
>worse, not better.
>

he inherited a great defense and kept it that way with his picks and acquisitions. if we still had washington and springs, the d would be a year older and a step slower. orakpo is an upgrade over washington. haynesworth is an upgrade over gholston and montgomery. admit it. with barnes, tryon, rob jackson, henson, horton, in the later rounds he is clearly focused on keeping what was becoming an old defense young, adding depth and maintaining its success.

On offense, its the same average at best talent that someone else put together years ago. and you go from decent to terrible just by getting old and injury prone with the same crappy guys in the first place. Vinny hasnt put his mark on the offense yet 'cept for the WRs. Right today, they arent looking good, but with injuries, the bad oline, and shaky jason, how do you know they are bums? its not like a known quantity like Santana is tearing the league up.

Two extremely high priced free agents, and a top-10 talent that fell to him at 13.

None of those things were shrewd or showed amazing insight. Congrats, here's the executive of the year award.

He inherited an old, mediocre OL, and the only OL he drafted isn't even active for games, let alone playing, let alone starting.

Now our season is tanked because of this offensive line, and his hand-picked head coach has been removed from play calling, and you're arguing he's doing a good job? Really?

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never said shrewd or amazing. i said decent. passable. adequate. not the skins biggest problem and certainly not the worst in the league.

why keep talking about rhinehart? he effed on that one, who cares. Parcells passed on Steven Jackson. people mistakes in the draft and correct them if given time.

But Hall, Haynesworth and Orakpo do not balance out all his failures.

And I'm not mentioning Rinehart specifically, but the fact that IN TWO YEARS HE HASN'T DRAFTED ONE WORTHWHILE LINEMAN.

This, despite the fact that he inherited an OLD, AVERAGE offensive line AND identified the offensive line as the biggest reason for last year's collapse.

Lo and behold, this season is tanked because of our OLD, AVERAGE offensive line.

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is our defense better this year?

(nope)

and think of the teams we've played so far.

Cerrato has done almost nothing of note, while the team has gotten worse (much worse) under his watch.

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It will all be over in a couple months anyway. Let's hope Gruden/Shannahan/Holmgren can do a better job than Vincent while coaching at the same time.

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maintaining a good defense is decent work. not great. decent work. getting younger at DB, DL and OLB without losing talent isnt the work of someone totally incompetent. Maybe we should trade Orakpo and Hall for warrick holdman and walt harris again and see how the defense holds up.

Thinking that jaquez green, reidel anthony, trung candidate and shane matthews were gonna take the team to the playoffs is incompetent. spurrier never should have had a say in any personnel decisions. do you see vinny effing up the team like that?

nope.

>maintaining a good defense is decent work. not great. decent
>work. getting younger at DB, DL and OLB without losing talent
>isnt the work of someone totally incompetent. Maybe we should
>trade Orakpo and Hall for warrick holdman and walt harris
>again and see how the defense holds up.

We haven't gotten younger at OLB. We don't have an SLB period. We have a DE playing out of position who's a pretty serious liability in his responsibilities. Orakpo at SLB HURTS your argument, it doesn't help.

Younger at CB means Deangelo Hall and Justin Tryon? Again, give this guy exec of the year award. That totally makes up for trading for Jason Taylor, or giving $50M to a defensive tackle who doesn't create more turnovers.


>
>Thinking that jaquez green, reidel anthony, trung candidate
>and shane matthews were gonna take the team to the playoffs is
>incompetent. spurrier never should have had a say in any
>personnel decisions. do you see vinny effing up the team like
>that?

Yes, yes I do.

>
>nope.

Mike Williams? Stephen Heyer? Will Montgomery? Those guys are easily as bad.

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>We haven't gotten younger at OLB. We don't have an SLB period.
>We have a DE playing out of position who's a pretty serious
>liability in his responsibilities. Orakpo at SLB HURTS your
>argument, it doesn't help.

College DEs move to OLB. so? who says he wont be the DE when Daniels retires?

>Younger at CB means Deangelo Hall and Justin Tryon? Again,
>give this guy exec of the year award. That totally makes up
>for trading for Jason Taylor, or giving $50M to a defensive
>tackle who doesn't create more turnovers.

Jason Taylor = Dan Snyder. Not Cerrato.

AH is the best DL in the league who does his job well, turnovers or no turnovers. If Campbell would stop fumbling, find the open man, control time of possession and let the defense get a blow, needing turnovers wont be an issue.


>Mike Williams? Stephen Heyer? Will Montgomery? Those guys are
>easily as bad.

They had those gator boys as starters from day one. no way williams or montgomery were ever intended to see this much time.

>
>College DEs move to OLB. so? who says he wont be the DE when
>Daniels retires?

Jesus you're coppin pleas. Orakpo is at SLB because Cerrato didn't get an actual SLB. There's no other reason. Cerrato went into this season without a starting caliber SLB on the roster because he has trouble focusing on more than one thing at a time.

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>Jason Taylor = Dan Snyder. Not Cerrato.

my my, that's a convenient explanation you have no justification for whatsoever.

>
>AH is the best DL in the league who does his job well,
>turnovers or no turnovers. If Campbell would stop fumbling,
>find the open man, control time of possession and let the
>defense get a blow, needing turnovers wont be an issue.

$50M for a player on a unit who's performance is no better this year than the past 5 years and you're blaming JC? I mean, do I even need to respond to that?

$50M for a player who's made no discernible difference in the team's performance. That is the definition of wasted money.


>
>
>>Mike Williams? Stephen Heyer? Will Montgomery? Those guys
>are
>>easily as bad.
>
>They had those gator boys as starters from day one. no way
>williams or montgomery were ever intended to see this much
>time.

There's no justification for how bad our OL is right now.

Going into the season (and last season) Samuels and Thomas were both on the wrong side of 30, both had suffered season ending injures recently, the team itself knew these guys would be out sooner rather than later.

So how does Vinny prepare for this? By not having drafted a single playable o-linemen in two seasons.

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underqualified personnel guy hired by Dan Snyder.

But that doesn't mean Vinny is by any means less on the hook for the horrible decisions made.

He's not adept at his job and our roster shows that.

For you to believe that we're melodramatic shows that you have not been paying any attention to this team at all. To have the highest salary output of all teams in the league and have one of the lowest win totals over the last 6 years how is that melodramatic?

to have some of the highest prices for everything in the league, for a fanbase made up of what used to a blue collar and everymans is ridiculous.

Have you even been to a game?

True teams have down times, and they have mismanagement, but ours has been this way for years now. How is that melodramatic?

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>underqualified personnel guy hired by Dan Snyder.
>
>But that doesn't mean Vinny is by any means less on the hook
>for the horrible decisions made.
>
>He's not adept at his job and our roster shows that.
>
>For you to believe that we're melodramatic shows that you have
>not been paying any attention to this team at all. To have the
>highest salary output of all teams in the league and have one
>of the lowest win totals over the last 6 years how is that
>melodramatic?
>
>to have some of the highest prices for everything in the
>league, for a fanbase made up of what used to a blue collar
>and everymans is ridiculous.
>
>Have you even been to a game?
>
>True teams have down times, and they have mismanagement, but
>ours has been this way for years now. How is that
>melodramatic?

None of what you are saying has to do with Vinny. he doesnt set ticket prices and didnt hire gibbs. he hasnt saddled the team with bad contracts. the game experience does suck, no denying. fans expect and deserve better. no denying. all of that doesnt fall on vinny after a year and a half.

but Since Vinny is Danny's #1 guy and right hand man, he has to shoulder some of that responsibility.

To say that Vinny has no culpability in this situation is purely wrong.

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Right.................

Overall though, he's drafted pretty well. The Jason Taylor signing? Eh...

>Overall though, he's drafted pretty well

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did he suddenly lose his coaching ability overnight or did the players that he was winning ballgames with get hurt? the lack of depth isnt zorns fault. he doesnt suck, the team does in particular the oline and Jason.

in fact, he runs it so badly, your boy Vinny took play calling away from him.

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>in fact, he runs it so badly, your boy Vinny took play
>calling away from him.
>
>discuss/

No denying that. but it worked for the 8 games that the team was healthy.

Name any coach that is gonna win a buncha ballgames with JC scared of the pass rush, fumbling all the damn time, losing yards and time of possession and missing open receivers, having rookie WRs not running their routes right (yet) and will montgomery and mike williams on the right side. bill walsh aint scoring points with that.

This team isnt gonna get fixed overnight.

That was a run-heavy team, based entirely on Portis, with no passing game to speak of.

Congrats, you hired a passing game guru who was smart enough to give Portis 30 carries a game.

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>Congrats, you hired a passing game guru who was smart enough
>to give Portis 30 carries a game.

If you KNOW you don't have the personnel yet to run your passing offense... then yes maybe running the ball behind your solid runblocking line is the mark of an okay playcaller.

perhaps, as I stated, Zorn hasn't achieve shit, and the only success we had, had nothing to do with him.

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or is the owner forcing him to make a move cuz he is impatient can't deal with the embarrassment.

congrats. great hire Vinny.

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>Good personnel decisions:
>Horton, Haynesworth, Blades, Orakpo, Jarmon, Dockery. Cut
>Jansen.

Haynesworth, Dockery, Jarmon and Orakpo haven't played half of a season yet.

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then i'd spray fart in zorn's dinner, tell him he was fired, write checks to all the other coaches i fired, go for a horseback ride, get stoned and name George Clinton the new GM and headcoach in a press conference that began with WHATUP, CC!?! and the release of all white players from the roster.

honestly i couldn't give two shits what Snyder and the Skins do, they are a bunch of fucking losers whose relevance is forced upon a public who largely couldn't care less. their team is boring as fuck even when it wins games.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

i still blame hip-hop.

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throw out the rest of the cases that haven't been to court yet, and settle the debt of the people who still owe as paid in full. To have the nerve to sue folks to make them pay to see such an awful product is criminal.....

i respect his gangster

everybody is displaying their venom mostly at Vinny Cerrato.

when all of it should be at Snyder.

people put hate toward Snyder but not as much as Vinny.

Vinny is too dumb to realize this. everytime he opens his mouth he exposes himself more and more, and less attention is placed toward the real culprit of this entire mess.....Snyder.

Vinny will be gone. Vinny is a football guy. Is he a GM, no. He'd be a decent scout. He served as Lou Holt'z recruiting coordinator back in the day at Notre Dame when Notre Dame actually mattered in the National Landscape. Maybe Fat Weiss can hire him back.

Dan gonna get rid of Zorn and Vinny at the end of the year. And he is going to bring back Joe Gibbs as President. Joe needs the money, so he'll hustle more money out of Dan like he did when he came back to coaching. Joe will have input on a GM and a coach hire . OR Joe will have input on bringing in a coach where he will have more say in personnel matters.

Joe has denied having an interest. But his answer was coy. We'll see what happens.

Snyder will get rid of Vinny though. Sadly, everybody knows this but Vinny. when Vinny started speaking with these conferences, Snyder is basically dropping the guillotine.

You're right in in your assessment of Cerrato though.

But Snyder should have the decency to apologize to the fans and reassure them that he'll figure this thing out. Ted Leonsis had the humility to do that when Bondra and everyone left, he actually sent season ticket holders a letter saying "hey the system was broke and we'll be bad for a few years but hang tight and we'll do our best to bring you a winner." That's the part Snyder is missing, just a basic grasp of reality. I swear to God if he got hit by a train or had a heart attack DC wouldn't even mourn. That's sad but true as fucked up as it is. And it doesn't have to be that way but it's his fault it is. If a guy can't admit when he's wrong and manage to take some accountability and be humble in defeat, people ultimately are going to find it difficult to pile on praise when he eventually does something right. He's a shitty person, with an even shittier understanding of the people who put money in his pocket, throwing them out of the game if they have anti-Snyder signs and making them turn their shirts inside out if they say anything inflammatory about him. It's so far from fair that it's hilarious. You'd think someone as business savvy would look at the good teams like the Colts or Giants and say "well shit if we're making this much money putting out a piss poor product every year imagine how much we'd make if we actually fielded a winner."

But that all starts at taking some accountability and acknowledging your own mistakes, something that he's proven he's incapable of. He's not smart, maybe in the sense that he made a billion dollars, but nah. What he actually is is a buffoon who is so unfathomably removed from real life that his existence is like watching Commodus in Gladiator trying to convince himself that he's as good an emperor as his father was and that the mob adores him when they really all know he's a pussy.

he had a long-term plan, no?

and there were some lean years, and he was losing money. folks were getting antsy.

but now look at the Caps and the future.

took a while, but it finally happened.

As an owner of a franchise, its about one thing only....money.

usually this translates with winning.

usually.

in Snyder's case, it doesn't. he knows this.

Is he a dick? yes

Is he a slimeball? yes

does he make money doing this? yes

does he make money despite the Redskins being dysfunctional? yes

does this require a change in how he carries out business if we are talking bottom-line? no.

thats what it gets down to.

until Snyder's pockets are affected, he won't change how he operates.

its sorta like that slimeball owner for the Clippers in the NBA. all those years the Clipeers were losing, Sterling was still making money off of them. he really had no need to change his model.

and as shitty of a human as he is I do think he'd rather win than lose.

for as much as he makes now, I refuse to believe he couldn't make EVEN MORE if the Skins could manage to go 12-4, 13-3, win the division, etc.

For example, If they're good enough to host playoff games that's an extra 8-10 milli just for every game. Plus TV. Plus more merch sold in area Modell's and Sports Authorities and Redskins stores. Plus higher ratings on 980 in turn greater Ad revenue. There's so much more money to be made dawg, it trickles down.

I mean this is sort of a micro-example but the day of that game 7 last spring between the Caps and Penguins I was at the Mo's in Annapolis and there was a line 10 deep of attractive as hell white moms, no bullshit with just bundles of Caps stuff in their arms tryna hold it altogether dropping it on the floor and crap. Car Flags and shirts and jerseys and hats, it didn't matter if it was red it was getting copped. I'd never seen anything like it I swear. The day of one single hockey game in an area located right between two football towns. Now imagine that sort of response times about 10, which is what would happen if the Redskins went to the NFC Championship game.

what he is doing is fine.

look at the Cowboys and us.

top #2 money making franchises, and what either us won in over a decade?

nothing.

also with the money, he gets to feed his own ego in being the GM too. don't get it twisted. Cerrato is not the GM. Snyder is. Cerrato is the fall guy and puppet to mask Snyder's decision maker as a GM and evaluator of talent.

he can't lose.

and then the offeseason acquisitions just gas the fanbase up every single year. never fails. folks, literally thought this team was going to be good this year, and the defense was going be the best.

he does this time and time again.

maybe this year it changes. i doubt it.

he'll make another splash hire, with some more bigtime free agent acquisitions, and the fanbase will be satified, they'll buy more jerseys, and still go to games.

if Snyder goes the conventional route of building a winner, that requires patience, and there is no guarantee in going that way that you will have a Super Bowl, especially with the division the Skins are in.

why do all that, if he still is raking in the dough.

until his pockets start hurting, he is not going to change.

you make it sound like he doesn't mind losing.
no business owner in any field wants to watch their product fail.

>you make it sound like he doesn't mind losing.
>no business owner in any field wants to watch their product
>fail.

there are a lot of teams that win, but still lose money, and vice versa.

its business.

he doesn't care about winning on the field.

he is a football owner. he cares about making money.

these last 10 years have proven that.

if he cared about winning on the field, he would hire a competent GM, to run the organization instead making himself the GM.

like i said, as long as he isn't losing at the bank, he won't change.

Sure he'll prolly get a so called big name coach who ain't won since he had Elway or had Tony Dungy's players, but he ain't hiring a GM, and even if he does folks still gone speculate as to whether it's really Snyder making certain moves. He's pretty much ef'ed off any credibility he could have. He might change his ways once he gets way older.

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