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"Tim Donaghy : Refs Fixed Series In 2002"


          

Just broke by NY Daily News and now being reported on WFAN, Donaghy told feds that two company men refs were instructed by Stern to fix a series in 2002. They were told to fix a Game 6 in order to make a Game 7 happen, obviously this is Kings/Lakers. No swipe yet, should be coming soon.

  

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Oh boy...this should be good...
Jun 10th 2008
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I GUARANTEE ESPN doesnt talk about it
Jun 10th 2008
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They are but you KNOW WHOSE side they are taking...
Jun 10th 2008
54
SWIZZIE
Jun 10th 2008
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RE: SWIZZIE
Jun 10th 2008
5
2002 Lakers-Kings Game 6---- Bavetta, Bernhardt, Delaney
Jun 10th 2008
4
I bet on the 2 old guys being the company men
Jun 10th 2008
6
Jun 10th 2008
12
Isn't that the same crew that just a couple days ago
Jun 10th 2008
7
delaney's the same
Jun 10th 2008
11
u know Ken Mauer is Joe Mauer's uncle?
Jun 10th 2008
14
      Maybe he met KG in Minnestoa
Jun 10th 2008
24
so is this title tainted too if Boston wins?
Jun 10th 2008
97
nope, lakers were more aggressive
Jun 10th 2008
40
nice swipe -- if true, I want Stern gone, and I've been a supporter
Jun 10th 2008
42
YES!!!!!!
Jun 10th 2008
YES!!!!!!
Jun 10th 2008
8
care for a game of double-dutch?
Jun 10th 2008
93
      you cared for a game of hide and seek when dallas tanked in 2006
Jun 10th 2008
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           LOL
Jun 11th 2008
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           Ah, you were looking for me? I feel so...so...
Jun 11th 2008
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Dear Lord Baby Jesus, please let this be the downfall of Stern
Jun 10th 2008
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U called? => http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2004/12/16/ODB,0.jpg
Jun 10th 2008
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if true, are yall really gonna be surprised with this??
Jun 10th 2008
10
You can't be surprised if you remember that LA/Sac series.
Jun 10th 2008
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      basically
Jun 10th 2008
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      yep. im glad this came out and I hope its dealt with properly so shit li...
Jun 10th 2008
31
They about to DESTROY this guy
Jun 10th 2008
13
david stern to unleash: NBA cares 'Stop Snitchin' campaign
Jun 10th 2008
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Carmelo is redeemed! n/m
Jun 10th 2008
21
I laughed
Jun 11th 2008
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPPPEE!!!!!
Jun 10th 2008
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edit: the swip says in involved the nets
Jun 10th 2008
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we swept the nets
Jun 10th 2008
25
Those facts don't really work (The Nets won in 6)
Jun 10th 2008
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      yeah, the article's clearly got something wrong in it
Jun 10th 2008
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      i remember divac picked up his 6th foul late in the game
Jun 10th 2008
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      In that case, Divac and Pollard were both "ejected"
Jun 10th 2008
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           maybe they knew his pro-drugs message for kids
Jun 10th 2008
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      fouled out = ejected
Jun 10th 2008
47
*remembers the laker fan complaints during sunday nights game*
Jun 10th 2008
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even non laker fans called out the officials as being too one-sided
Jun 10th 2008
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      when you shoot mid-range jumpers for 30 minutes
Jun 10th 2008
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      you mean like the kings in 2002?
Jun 10th 2008
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      http://i30.tinypic.com/o8ryxg.jpg
Jun 10th 2008
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      gasol was getting killed down low
Jun 10th 2008
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           karma's a f*cking bitch
Jun 10th 2008
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                save that asterisk for the Patriots threads
Jun 10th 2008
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                wow are you mad
Jun 10th 2008
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                you'll be the one crying when we win all 3 home games
Jun 10th 2008
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                     noted
Jun 10th 2008
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                          if we get the crew from game #2.. we line dancing like this:
Jun 10th 2008
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      just like even non kings fans called out the officiating in that game..
Jun 10th 2008
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           i guess after reading #61 you'll STFU about the 06 finals
Jun 10th 2008
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           nope! different! i didn't try to play it both ways!
Jun 10th 2008
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                i see... so you're guilty of selective outrage but not hypocrisy
Jun 10th 2008
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                     i'm consistent...y'all some hypocrites.
Jun 10th 2008
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                          lol peep the sig
Jun 10th 2008
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           the officials definitely helped us get that W...there's no denying that
Jun 10th 2008
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that counts as tainted. willy down to 2.
Jun 10th 2008
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      lmao! shaq also loses one, down to three! elmo got more!
Jun 10th 2008
28
      better guard w/ only 2 rings: isiah or kobe?
Jun 10th 2008
33
      lol foh
Jun 10th 2008
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      GINOOOOOOOOOBLIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!!!!!!! (c) Chuck
Jun 10th 2008
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      RE: better guard w/ only 2 rings: dumars or kobe?
Jun 10th 2008
39
           kenny smith or kobe?
Jun 10th 2008
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                RE: cassell or kobe?
Jun 10th 2008
46
      fuck it -- I'm giving Webber one, too, he better than KG now
Jun 10th 2008
45
      Uh, the teams didn't cheat... that's on the league..
Jun 10th 2008
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           nope! he's never implicated fixing a playoff series!
Jun 10th 2008
101
                NOPE! Belicheck cheated! FEEL just make dat good chicken..
Jun 10th 2008
106
it's difficult to accept NBA as "pure" sport because of the agendas
Jun 10th 2008
17
wow
Jun 10th 2008
18
Nino Brown talks about it!!! (swipe)
Jun 10th 2008
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Are any other media outlets reporting this?
Jun 10th 2008
30
Another swipe, from Philly Inquirer...mentions '04, '05 games
Jun 10th 2008
37
HAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAAA
Jun 10th 2008
50
oh as far as the tech thing goes, though -- no shit, sherlock
Jun 10th 2008
55
funny thing is we would have won game 2 & went up 2-0 in that series
Jun 10th 2008
56
Hotel shenanigans is good, old fashioned gamesmanship
Jun 10th 2008
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^^^get a load of this guy
Jun 10th 2008
70
I am losing respect for Stephen A. Smith and Jalen Rose right
Jun 10th 2008
57
to be fair, unless he can point to another game, it's kinda weak
Jun 10th 2008
58
It should be interesting to hear what Van Gundy says
Jun 10th 2008
61
Well, highlighting problems is one aspect of "review"
Jun 10th 2008
65
I'd like him to be more specific and name more than one too.
Jun 10th 2008
67
eh...rose basically didn't say anything...
Jun 10th 2008
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      I thought they would at least do good cop bad cop or something!!
Jun 10th 2008
66
           jalen prolly thinks its true, but was told to keep quiet
Jun 10th 2008
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As a Mavs fan, I didn't even blink when seeing the title
Jun 10th 2008
60
Came in here, specifically to say that...
Jun 10th 2008
109
Desperate man.
Jun 10th 2008
64
that Game 6 was and has been the strongest sign of conspiracy
Jun 10th 2008
69
Where's Arlen Specter when you need him?
Jun 10th 2008
72
I dunno about you, but last year's playoff run was fishy to me...
Jun 10th 2008
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      I was joking that he won't care unless Pennyslvania's involved
Jun 10th 2008
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           ^^conspiracy theorist
Jun 10th 2008
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                RE: ^^conspiracy theorist
Jun 11th 2008
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looking at another side of that though
Jun 10th 2008
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      yeah, that's basically what I'm saying
Jun 10th 2008
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He already pleaded guilty, blowing the whistle would of not changed anyt...
Jun 10th 2008
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      well...he hasn't been sentenced yet though
Jun 10th 2008
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2002 Game 6 Officials: Dick Bavetta, Ted B. and Bob Delaney
Jun 10th 2008
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Lakers got 27 fourth quarter free throws that game
Jun 10th 2008
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      RE: Lakers got 27 fourth quarter free throws that game
Jun 11th 2008
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Ehhhh. Too easy.
Jun 10th 2008
83
ref chatter on okayplayer is hilarious
Jun 10th 2008
84
2 things... the NBA owes JVG 100gs and Mark Cuban is a lil bitch...
Jun 10th 2008
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i'm sure the Heat/Mavs final was fixed too
Jun 10th 2008
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<<<<<<<
Jun 10th 2008
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Shameful.
Jun 10th 2008
91
This kinda confirms what we all knew though.
Jun 10th 2008
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So,... can we get that crew tonight?
Jun 10th 2008
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not exactly
Jun 10th 2008
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I'm sayin!
Jun 10th 2008
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ZOMG Webber still woulda found a way to choke away the series nm
Jun 10th 2008
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It said 2002 and 2005
Jun 10th 2008
108
2000 Western Conference Finals
Jun 10th 2008
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I gotta agree with the True Hoop guy
Jun 10th 2008
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=JsH385NDTHM
Jun 10th 2008
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^^^Watches basketball
Jun 11th 2008
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Who saw them ask Jeff Van Gundy about this at halftime?!
Jun 10th 2008
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What he said was accurate, though, they just gotta be transparent
Jun 10th 2008
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Yea he was caught between that company line and his REAL feelings
Jun 10th 2008
117
Stern sounds a lot like The White House talking about Scott McClellan
Jun 10th 2008
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^ ^ ^ ^ ^
Jun 11th 2008
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i'll say it again:
Jun 10th 2008
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Folks don't want to believe there's no Santa Clause
Jun 11th 2008
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      i been skeptical since "turnaround jumper" jordan came back
Jun 11th 2008
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lol...if they did tell them to promote a game 7...
Jun 10th 2008
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lmao...
Jun 10th 2008
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you're laughing while you've been watching us in the Finals
Jun 10th 2008
122
      the yankees don't have that title?
Jun 11th 2008
129
           or the canadiens. or the celtics.
Jun 11th 2008
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                right
Jun 11th 2008
150
we won game 7 like true champs, sactown didn't have the balls to beat us
Jun 11th 2008
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RE: lol...if they did tell them to promote a game 7...
Jun 11th 2008
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      not even the best in the sport hahaha
Jun 11th 2008
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      RE: lol...if they did tell them to promote a game 7...
Jun 11th 2008
166
Two observations
Jun 11th 2008
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RE: Two observations
Jun 11th 2008
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      ^^^POST OVER!!
Jun 11th 2008
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      I'm not a hater and I'm not denying how it GOT to game 6
Jun 11th 2008
138
      Weapons of mass distraction
Jun 11th 2008
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           we won game 7. in your building.
Jun 11th 2008
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                Again, why do you keep talking about Game 7? GAME SIX IS IN QUESTION!
Jun 11th 2008
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                     there's a lot of games in question for a suspect job by refs einstein
Jun 11th 2008
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                          The first two words here says it all
Jun 11th 2008
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                               RE: The first two words here says it all
Jun 12th 2008
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                                    I love how you keep going back to this
Jun 12th 2008
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this is probably true
Jun 11th 2008
127
A question for Lakers fans
Jun 11th 2008
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Miami Heat - 2006 Finals.
Jun 11th 2008
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already knew already knew
Jun 11th 2008
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From a Sports Guy column in 2002
Jun 11th 2008
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These two always stuck out to me especially that Blazers game
Jun 11th 2008
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RE: These two always stuck out to me especially that Blazers game
Jun 11th 2008
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I mentioned that 2000 Laker-Blazer game in my post
Jun 11th 2008
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that blazers game was some bullshit
Jun 11th 2008
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      RE: that blazers game was some bullshit
Jun 11th 2008
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           I'd love to see a team choke without the other team parading to the line
Jun 11th 2008
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                RE: I'd love to see a team choke without the other team parading to the ...
Jun 11th 2008
165
                Portland missed 19 straight shots....and had a 13 point cushion entering
Jun 11th 2008
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                     you do realize i don't give a fuck about the lakers, right?
Jun 12th 2008
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                          cosign, i blame bavetta & them for portland missing all those shots too
Jun 12th 2008
185
smh @ Bavetta
Jun 11th 2008
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      that really is a bad look right there, they oughta investigate
Jun 11th 2008
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           The NBA has an interesting method of investigating
Jun 11th 2008
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                saw that same interview, if I could do a people's eyebrow, I would
Jun 11th 2008
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Spurs fans safe!!
Jun 11th 2008
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*waits for someone to mention 2006 suns series*
Jun 11th 2008
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At this point I wonder if Bavetta fixed the Barkley race.
Jun 11th 2008
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I don't know what I enjoy more
Jun 11th 2008
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With Boston and LA the only thing they care about is 6 or 7 games
Jun 11th 2008
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RE: With Boston and LA the only thing they care about is 6 or 7 games
Jun 11th 2008
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RE: I don't know what I enjoy more
Jun 11th 2008
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      the fact that you bothered to post a reply to me says a lot
Jun 11th 2008
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           RE: the fact that you bothered to post a reply to me says a lot
Jun 12th 2008
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Next to Salvatore, Dick Bavetta is the worst goddamn ref in like ever
Jun 11th 2008
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wilbon actually not trumpeting the company line sorta on PTI...
Jun 11th 2008
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the bigger the lie, the more they believe.
Jun 11th 2008
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love how ESPN is all over the "Donaghy lied!" train
Jun 11th 2008
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Honestly...folks need to look at games 1 and 2
Jun 12th 2008
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You my boy and all but this is a Laker talking point and nothing more
Jun 12th 2008
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      RE: You my boy and all but this is a Laker talking point and nothing mor...
Jun 12th 2008
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           LOL Laker fans really are getting good at Republicans tactics
Jun 12th 2008
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                RE: LOL Laker fans really are getting good at Republicans tactics
Jun 12th 2008
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                     Not going to work dude
Jun 12th 2008
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any1 else feeling dumbER for betting on the nba in that era
Jun 12th 2008
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Anyone know the name of the ex-ref who confirmed part of this?
Jun 12th 2008
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cp900
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1. "Oh boy...this should be good..."
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2. "I GUARANTEE ESPN doesnt talk about it"
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I always felt the Kings shouldve won that series anyway.

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54. "They are but you KNOW WHOSE side they are taking..."
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And it sad...

Clearly anyone who watched that game already knew something was up..


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3. "SWIZZIE"
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http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/2008/06/10/2008-06-10_exreferee_tim_donaghy_blows_whistle_on_n.html

Ex-referee Tim Donaghy blows whistle on NBA dirty secrets

By JOHN MARZULLI
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER

Tuesday, June 10th 2008, 4:10 PM
Tim Donaghy, who pleaded guilty to charges of betting on games he officiated, is now airing NBA's dirty laundry. Murphy/Getty

Tim Donaghy, who pleaded guilty to charges of betting on games he officiated, is now airing NBA's dirty laundry.

Ex-NBA referee Tim Donaghy told the feds two refs fixed the outcome of one playoff series - and that officials were told not to eject star players from games for fear of hurting ticket sales.

The bombshell allegations are contained in a court document filed Tuesday by Donaghy's lawyer. It describes the “inner workings" of the NBA in which top league executives used referees to manipulate games.

Donaghy, who pleaded guilty in Brooklyn Federal Court to charges of betting on games he officiated, told FBI agents “league officials would tell referees that they should withhold calling technical fouls on certain star players because doing so hurt ticket sales and television ratings," the document said.

Donaghy claims he was told that two refs who were “company men” acting in the interest of the NBA conspired to extend a playoff series in 2002 to a seventh game.

The referees allegedly ignored flagrant fouls committed by the team that needed to win. They also reportedly called "made-up fouls" against the other team which led to the ejection of two of their players. The team favored by the refs won that night and the next game to win the series.

The document does not name the teams. The Nets were in that playoff series, losing the championship finals to the Los Angeles Lakers.

Donaghy also claimed a supervising referee told refs that an unidentified NBA executive did not want them to call technical fouls on star players or boot them from the game.

Donaghy told feds the league reprimanded a referee who disobeyed that edict in January 2000 and ejected an unnamed star player from a game in the first quarter.

Lawyer John Lauro filed the four-page letter to Federal Judge Carol Amon because none of the information was included in the government’s letter to the judge seeking leniency for Donaghy when he is sentenced next month.

Lauro has gone to war against Brooklyn federal prosecutors for offering plea deals to Donaghy's betting accomplices that give them less time than the disgraced ref, despite his extensive cooperation.

Donaghy claims referees have accepted autographs, free merchandise and meals from team coaches and managers. He told probers one referee used a team's practice facility to exercise and another played tennis with an NBA coach.

"These activities were against NBA rules, indeed, such inappropriate relationships could influence the outcome of games," Lauro wrote.

Lauro said he withheld the names of the teams, referees and league officials because the feds may still investigate the allegations.
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5. "RE: SWIZZIE"
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The problem I had with that series was Shaq and Kobe shooting a combined 2 free throws in one of the games. Totally ridiculous. But yeah, people only saw the other side of it.

  

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4. "2002 Lakers-Kings Game 6---- Bavetta, Bernhardt, Delaney"
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Tue Jun-10-08 04:19 PM by theothursdays

  

          

http://www.nba.com/games/20020531/SACLAL/boxscore.html

40 Free Throw for LA
25 for Sac

3 Techs (Webber, Divac, D. George)


http://www.nba.com/games/20020531/SACLAL/recap.html

LA Lakers 106, Sacramento 102
Shaq Steps Up to Send it Back to Sacramento
Box score | Lakers Home Page | Kings Home Page


LOS ANGELES, May 31 (Ticker) -- The irresistible force of Shaquille O'Neal forced a Game 7 in the Western Conference finals.

O'Neal manhandled his way to 41 points and 17 rebounds as the two-time defending champion Los Angeles Lakers staved off elimination with a 106-102 victory over the Sacramento Kings.


The Kings host Game 7 on Sunday night with a chance to dethrone the Lakers, who improved to 3-0 in elimination games during their hold on the title. The winner faces the New Jersey Nets in the NBA Finals beginning Wednesday night.

Hampered by injuries all season, the 7-2, 350-pound O'Neal put the hurt on the Kings. His best game of the 2002 postseason saw him make 14-of-25 shots and 13-of-17 free throws, fouling out Sacramento big men Vlade Divac and Scot Pollard.



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"I'm not going to change my game," O'Neal said. "A couple of games I tried to be cute, tried to stay out of foul trouble. I'm just going to play aggressive and (they) call it how they call it. But if they call it like they're supposed to call it, the outcome will be the same like it was tonight. You've got to foul me to stop me, period."

O'Neal scored 12 points in a tense fourth quarter, including a nifty reverse layup with 52 seconds left -- his team's first basket in nearly six minutes -- that gave Los Angeles a 101-98 lead.

"He said, `Come to me,'" Lakers forward Robert Horry said. "He has not said that in a long time."

The Lakers showed their championship mettle, making 14-of-16 foul shots in the final three minutes. They needed just about every one as the Kings continued to provide the toughest test they have faced during their dynasty.

Even with O'Neal's heroics -- and 31 points from Kobe Bryant -- the Lakers still held their breath as a bloodied Mike Bibby launched a potential tying 3-pointer with five seconds left. He missed, and the teams will play the first Game 7 of this year's postseason.

"That happens sometimes. You have to take the good with the bad," said Bibby, who made just 7-of-20 shots. "I hope it's out of me right now. We got one more game to play. It's do or die now."

"Going up to Arco (Arena) and playing Game 7, it's going to be fun," Bryant said. "You know how their fans are. ... It's going to be a huge challenge for us and we're really looking forward to it."

Bryant helped O'Neal by grabbing 11 rebounds and making 11-of-11 free throws, including four in the final 20 seconds that kept the Kings looking for the tying 3-pointer.

The Kings thought the Lakers got some help from the officials as well. Los Angeles made 34-of-40 free throws while Sacramento sank 18-of-25. In the fourth quarter, the Lakers hit 21-of-27 from the line while the Kings made 7-of-9.

"Our big guys get 20 fouls tonight and Shaq gets four? You tell me how the game went," Adelman said. "It's just the way it is. Obviously, they got the game called the way they wanted to get it called."

"It's just the reality of the matter," Webber added. "I've heard from some champions that to get to be a champion; you have to go through this, so I was warned."

A driving layup by Hedo Turkoglu pulled the Kings within 103-102 with 12 seconds left. On the ensuing inbounds play, Bryant elbowed Bibby to the nose and pushed him to the floor to receive the pass before being fouled.

Between Bryant's free throws, the Kings called their last timeout to stop the bleeding in Bibby's nose so their best shooter could remain in the game. With gauze stuffed up his nostril, he dribbled upcourt but missed the potential tying shot.

"I told Mike I wouldn't forget my guard was on the floor, bleeding," Webber said. "I will not forget that. I'm not going to play dirty or anything like that. I might take 10 more jump hooks or 10 more jumpers, but that will be in the back of my mind." Webber had 26 points, 13 rebounds and eight assists. Bibby scored 23 points and Divac added 12 and 12 rebounds for the Kings.

Neither team led by more than seven points and the game was tied, 75-75, entering the fourth quarter. O'Neal had two free throws and a basket, fouling out Pollard in the process. Devean George added a free throw for a five-point lead.

O'Neal had a banker with 6:51 to go, keeping the lead at 88-83, before the Kings came back. Divac returned and converted a three-point play to give Sacramento a 90-89 edge with 4:38 to play.

After a layup by Bibby, Divac fouled out and Horry made two free throws for a 92-92 tie. Two free throws by Bryant gave the Lakers the lead for good at 95-94 with 1:55 left and Rick Fox added two more 18 seconds later.

"I knew before the game I'd be out of it," Divac said. "He (O'Neal) went out (on fouls) up there (in Sacramento). It had to be the same down here."

Fox scored 11 points for LA. Turkoglu had 12 and Peja Stojakovic and Bobby Jackson added 10 each for Sacramento.


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6. "I bet on the 2 old guys being the company men"
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7. "Isn't that the same crew that just a couple days ago"
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11. "delaney's the same"
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and he was the worst of the three.

but game two's other refs were crawford and mauer.

i'm surprised it wasn't salvatore and delaney.

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14. "u know Ken Mauer is Joe Mauer's uncle?"
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random slightly interesting but useless trivia for the day.

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24. "Maybe he met KG in Minnestoa"
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CONSPIRACY!

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LegacyNS
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97. "so is this title tainted too if Boston wins?"
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40. "nope, lakers were more aggressive"
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they mad

  

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42. "nice swipe -- if true, I want Stern gone, and I've been a supporter"
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"YES!!!!!!"


  

          

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


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8. "YES!!!!!!"
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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


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93. "care for a game of double-dutch?"
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110. "you cared for a game of hide and seek when dallas tanked in 2006"
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Steph: I was just fooling about

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124. "LOL"
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125. "Ah, you were looking for me? I feel so...so..."
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stalked

  

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9. "Dear Lord Baby Jesus, please let this be the downfall of Stern"
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98. "U called? => http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2004/12/16/ODB,0.jpg"
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10. "if true, are yall really gonna be surprised with this??"
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im glad it came out sooner than later tho.



  

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19. "You can't be surprised if you remember that LA/Sac series."
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23. "basically"
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31. "yep. im glad this came out and I hope its dealt with properly so shit li..."
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this is squashed for good in the league.

everything is based on if Timmy is telling the truth and its prosecuted correctly of course.


  

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13. "They about to DESTROY this guy"
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pix with him having threesomes with goats and child actors

family disappearing

time to change the name to NBE

  

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15. "david stern to unleash: NBA cares 'Stop Snitchin' campaign"
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21. "Carmelo is redeemed! n/m"
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143. "I laughed"
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very hard. Thank you.

  

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16. "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPPPEE!!!!!"
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this was just another example of our two dominant hof'ers CARRYING the rest of the dead weight to a W.

we won because we played great defense, and we had great free throw shooting from kobe AND SHAQ. we still went to sacramento and beat them in their own building in a win-or-go-home game 7

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20. "edit: the swip says in involved the nets"
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but the nets weren't in any seven game series...only the lakers/kings series went seven.

hmmm....

oh, and nice plea coppage.

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25. "we swept the nets"
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26. "Those facts don't really work (The Nets won in 6)"
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and they didn't win in the Finals. And two players weren't ejected in the Sac/LA game. I have no idea what game this is if we go by these details.

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32. "yeah, the article's clearly got something wrong in it"
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and i'd bet its clearly that sac/la series.

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34. "i remember divac picked up his 6th foul late in the game"
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38. "In that case, Divac and Pollard were both "ejected""
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as in fouled out. Although I don't know why getting Scot Pollard out of the game was a priority. Maybe Stern just didn't like his wild haircuts.

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51. "maybe they knew his pro-drugs message for kids"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8nBE8WNFxw

  

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47. "fouled out = ejected"
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*Jews you*

"this is okp tho, reading is completely optional" (c) desus

Proceed with caution. I am overtly racist.

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22. "*remembers the laker fan complaints during sunday nights game*"
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41. "even non laker fans called out the officials as being too one-sided"
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44. "when you shoot mid-range jumpers for 30 minutes"
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you arent going to get fouled.

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48. "you mean like the kings in 2002?"
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92. " http://i30.tinypic.com/o8ryxg.jpg"
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http://i30.tinypic.com/o8ryxg.jpg
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49. "gasol was getting killed down low"
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as for the jumpshots, we had more points in the paint than boston

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52. "karma's a f*cking bitch"
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CRY.

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53. "save that asterisk for the Patriots threads"
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87. "wow are you mad"
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62. "you'll be the one crying when we win all 3 home games"
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and shoot 25 more free throws than yall in each game.

because you're right, karma is a bitch..what goes around comes around.

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86. "noted"
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ahh...another prediction by a lakers fan. i love okaysports.

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100. "if we get the crew from game #2.. we line dancing like this:"
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http://www.mariecurie.org.uk/NR/rdonlyres/DD2BA57B-83FE-4C37-BCF9-21C390250D2F/0/daff_gda_evnt_line_dancing02.jpg

SEE.. WE HAPPY...
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59. "just like even non kings fans called out the officiating in that game.."
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aka, either admit that there's a great point in the 2002 issue, or STFU about sunday's officiating...you don't get to play it both ways...

  

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73. "i guess after reading #61 you'll STFU about the 06 finals"
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here, you can start by taking back this post:

http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=21&topic_id=43324&mesg_id=43324&listing_type=search#43386

  

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76. "nope! different! i didn't try to play it both ways!"
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stay mad at this thread!

  

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78. "i see... so you're guilty of selective outrage but not hypocrisy"
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fair enough

  

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80. "i'm consistent...y'all some hypocrites."
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shitty officiating in '02, shitty officiating in '06, randomly and dumbly enforced rules in '05...i see it all...you = see only that which your mad eyes let you.

  

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107. "lol peep the sig"
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75. "the officials definitely helped us get that W...there's no denying that"
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just like they helped boston win game 2 by not being consistent and calling us for every ticky tack foul and officiating the celtics a different way.

but you can't taint our shit considering unlike your pussy ass mavs, who also got jobbed by the refs, WE CLOSED OUT THE SERIES. ON THE ROAD. your team couldn't even do that with two tries at home.

in that game 7, both teams shot roughly about the same amount of ft's, can't blame the refs for the kings missing all those free throws.

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27. "that counts as tainted. willy down to 2."
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28. "lmao! shaq also loses one, down to three! elmo got more!"
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tie breaker!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  

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33. "better guard w/ only 2 rings: isiah or kobe?"
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35. "lol foh"
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we won game 7 in their building

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36. "GINOOOOOOOOOBLIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!!!!!!! (c) Chuck"
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39. "RE: better guard w/ only 2 rings: dumars or kobe?"
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43. "kenny smith or kobe?"
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i'd say now that kobe's down to 2, kenny's def fuckin with kobe in his prime.

  

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46. "RE: cassell or kobe?"
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45. "fuck it -- I'm giving Webber one, too, he better than KG now"
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n/m

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94. "Uh, the teams didn't cheat... that's on the league.."
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besides, Donaghy refereed A LOT of games.. start subtracting all across the board homey...

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101. "nope! he's never implicated fixing a playoff series!"
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someone else! Kobe lost! Kobestan in pain!

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106. "NOPE! Belicheck cheated! FEEL just make dat good chicken.."
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17. "it's difficult to accept NBA as "pure" sport because of the agendas"
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I would like to hear the pleas copped by Stern & Co. Simply playing the "he's a bitter criminal" card doesn't fly when it's blatant that certain players, teams and coaches get preferential treatment. What's worse is that the beneficiaries change depending on the circumstances (i.e., Lakers get the breaks against San Antonio, but get hosed against the Celtics in game 2, or Shaq bullying his way to multiple titles but being rendered ineffective against the Bulls in '07 despite using the same style).

  

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18. "wow"
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29. "Nino Brown talks about it!!! (swipe)"
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Nino Brown: I'm not guilty. *You're* the one that's guilty. The lawmakers, the politicians, the Columbian drug lords, all you who lobby against making drugs legal. Just like you did with alcohol during the prohibition. You're the one who's guilty. I mean, c'mon, let's kick the ballistics here: Ain't no Uzi's made in Harlem. Not one of us in here owns a poppy field. This thing is bigger than David Stern. This is big business. This is the American way.

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30. "Are any other media outlets reporting this?"
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I've been emailing everyone, the local sports radio station, etc.

  

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37. "Another swipe, from Philly Inquirer...mentions '04, '05 games"
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http://www.philly.com/inquirer/breaking/sports_breaking/20080610_Donaghy_gave_Feds_more_info__attorney_says.html

By Frank Fitzpatrick

INQUIRER STAFF WRITER

Tim Donaghy's lawyer said today that the letter the government filed last week outlining his client's cooperation failed to note details of what Donaghy told prosecutors about questionable behavior by other NBA referees.

Attorney John Lauro, seeking to reduce the mandatory sentence Donaghy faces when sentenced on July 14, submitted the new information in a supplemental letter to U.S. District Court Judge Carol Amon.

Lauro's letter provided a list of alleged "improper interactions and relationships" between referees and league players, coaches and officials, though none are identified. He said some NBA referees socialized with, sought autographs from and played tennis with players, coaches and executives, all in violation of league policies.

According to Lauro, Donaghy also told the FBI about colleagues who flaunted another NBA guidelines by wagering in casinos and on other sporting events.

An NBA spokesperson could not immediately be reached for comment.

Donaghy offered the information, Lauro said, in a Sept. 6, 2007, meeting with FBI officials in Tampa and in a 2008 report that he did at the government's request.

The letter indicated that Donaghy had heard from another referee that a third official had promised a general manager/friend that his calls would go against the opponents of that GM's team in a 2004 game.

That referee, Donaghy told the FBI, called 25 fouls on that opposing team, "far fewer" than on the GM's club.

According to Lauro, Donaghy also informed investigators that NBA executives advised referees not to call technical fouls on or eject star players, fearing that would damage the league's image.

Donaghy, Lauro added, also pointed out flaws with the NBA's observer system, in which league officials rate a referee's performance anonymously from the stands.

He said officials often knew when they were being observed and by whom, citing one instance when an observer approached the referees before a game and asked them to buy a copy of his new book.

The disgraced referee was fired last year after 13 seasons when he admitted providing inside information to friends who bet on NBA games, including some game that Donaghy worked. He faces up to 25 years in prison on gambling and wire-fraud charges.

Donaghy also suggested NBA executives manipulated games by urging referees to watch certain players more closely, listing an example from the 2005 playoffs.

After complaints about a player from one team's officials, he said, the league instructed the referees to crack down on that player.

  

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50. "HAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAAA"
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HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA (c) O_E

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55. "oh as far as the tech thing goes, though -- no shit, sherlock"
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way to blow open the lid on that one.

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56. "funny thing is we would have won game 2 & went up 2-0 in that series"
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if kobe wasn't poisoned with that sactown hotel cheeseburger

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68. "Hotel shenanigans is good, old fashioned gamesmanship"
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nm

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70. "^^^get a load of this guy"
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*archie bunker face*

  

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57. "I am losing respect for Stephen A. Smith and Jalen Rose right"
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now as we speak.

They acknowledged the disparity in the amount of free throws L.A. took and even said it was absurd yet denounced that the ref could be telling the truth.

Talking about he is trying to save his own hide. His hide is already scalped. Save what?


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58. "to be fair, unless he can point to another game, it's kinda weak"
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You'd think if it was systemic and there were known "company men," he'd have more than just one of the most infamously terribly officiated games in the history of organized sport.

Either way -- I hope Stern and the other refs get a proper federal investigation.

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61. "It should be interesting to hear what Van Gundy says"
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Since his complaint about Yao getting singled out turns out to be true per ESPN.

Jeff Van Gundy ultimately backed off comments that a referee told him that officials had targeted Yao Ming in the Houston Rockets 2005 first-round playoff series against the Dallas Mavericks. Maybe he was right.

A letter sent to the sentencing court on behalf of convicted former referee Tim Donaghy outlines just such a plan. Donaghy's legal team is trying demonstrate his cooperation with a government investigation before he is sentenced on July 14 on felony charges alleging he took cash payoffs from gamblers and bet on games himself.

In other documents filed with the Brooklyn court, Donaghy's lawyers responded to the NBA's claim that he must pay $1 million in restitution to cover the cost of the league's private investigation.

The letter alleging referees altered games mentions only the year 2005, but the circumstances make it apparent that it is referring to the Rockets-Mavs series.

"Team 3 lost the first two games in the series and Team 3's Owner complained to NBA officials," the letter says. "Team 3's Owner alleged that referees were letting a Team 4 player get away with illegal screens. NBA Executive Y told Referee Supervisor Z that the referees for that game were to enforce the screening rules strictly against that Team 4 player. Referee Supervisor Z informed the referees about his instructions. As an alternate referee for that game, Tim also received these instructions."

Mavs owner Mark Cuban did in fact complain after his team lost the first two games of the series, and Dallas went on to beat Houston in seven games. Van Gundy said that a working referee had told him about the league's plan. Donaghy's letter claims that Supervisor Z contacted the coach. Van Gundy was ultimately fined $100,000.

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65. "Well, highlighting problems is one aspect of "review""
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but if the league dinged me for $100k at the same time that they were doing the dirt I was talking about ... fuck YEAH I'd be talking to a lawyer.

I want a good, proper investigation now, league-wide. As a fan, I want it to come back clean, but I also don't want to stick my head in the sand.

If it's more than just this one game, that's something -- but if all he got is this, that's fishier.

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67. "I'd like him to be more specific and name more than one too."
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I am not sure if the ref's version is the complete truth but I never was convinced that the NBA didn't play with that game a bit.


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63. "eh...rose basically didn't say anything..."
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he rambled on and didn't really take a position, or at least that's how it seemed to me...Stephen A def recited the company line though....

  

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66. "I thought they would at least do good cop bad cop or something!!"
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I didn't mention the other Mike 'cause I don't expect him to be a problem..


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71. "jalen prolly thinks its true, but was told to keep quiet"
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i highly doubt you're going to see any permanent NBA on ESPN fixture agree too strongly with Donaghy's allegation...maybe someone who isn't regularly involved in ESPNs NBA productions will...

  

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60. "As a Mavs fan, I didn't even blink when seeing the title"
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109. "Came in here, specifically to say that..."
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64. "Desperate man."
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What a fucking loser.


I hope he gets his ass kicked in jail.

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69. "that Game 6 was and has been the strongest sign of conspiracy"
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since it was played.

I want MORE than just that one though before I get frothing. That game was regrettable, but Shaquille O'Neal was also admittedly the most difficult to officate player the league has ever seen...

Hard to say.

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72. "Where's Arlen Specter when you need him?"
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Someone say they fixed a Sixers game!

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74. "I dunno about you, but last year's playoff run was fishy to me..."
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or did you mean a game where the refs caused the Sixers to lose?

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77. "I was joking that he won't care unless Pennyslvania's involved"
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If the Pats hadn't beat the Steelers and Eagles, he wouldn't have given two shits about the NFL. As he shouldn't since the US government has bigger issues than Belichick.

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81. "^^conspiracy theorist"
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Specter is an American hero.


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133. "RE: ^^conspiracy theorist"
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Specter is an idiot. Thus no one in Congress standing with him on spygate. If this is true it deserves more merit than Spygate, but neither need to be addressed by congess, just like baseball didn't, but hey we aren't in a war or and extened conflict or anything like that.

  

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104. "looking at another side of that though"
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if he's trying to save his own ass, a game like that would be easy to point to as "evidence," no?

just playing devil's advocate.

  

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111. "yeah, that's basically what I'm saying"
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there is still very much the possibility that he's just like fuck it they all going down with me, if I call foul on that one, everyone of these fuckers is going to pay.

A lot of his other "snitching" is pretty unremarkable -- refs use team facilities against strict league rules?

*yawn*

Refs place bets on, ostensibly, things unrelated to basketball?

*yawn*

Everyone just assumes this type of stuff is going on, but point the finger at one of the most tainted games every played? Yeah, that'll bring some others down with you.

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82. "He already pleaded guilty, blowing the whistle would of not changed anyt..."
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Had he pleaded not guilty and blew the whistle you might have a point

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105. "well...he hasn't been sentenced yet though"
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i mean it's a possibility

  

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79. "2002 Game 6 Officials: Dick Bavetta, Ted B. and Bob Delaney"
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This was the game ralph nader got all bitter about and wrote a letter and shit to Stern.

wow.

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85. "Lakers got 27 fourth quarter free throws that game"
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130. "RE: Lakers got 27 fourth quarter free throws that game"
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Kings commited atleast 6 intentional fouls in the 4th quarter. The Kings still shot 20 more free throws when the series was over. Game 2 and 5 were fishy too.

  

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83. "Ehhhh. Too easy."
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I'll also need some more improprieties in the mix before the eyebrow is fully cocked (no homo, because i used a word that had cock in it)

  

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84. "ref chatter on okayplayer is hilarious"
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losing team - the refs fucked us!

winning team - now way, we were just more agressive

  

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88. "2 things... the NBA owes JVG 100gs and Mark Cuban is a lil bitch..."
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89. "i'm sure the Heat/Mavs final was fixed too"
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waaaaaay too obvious

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90. "<<<<<<<"
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heres another one: The Happening?:

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91. "Shameful."
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95. "This kinda confirms what we all knew though."
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This just puts a face on our what then seemed baseless conspiracies

<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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96. "So,... can we get that crew tonight?"
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102. "not exactly"
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but still bad: crawford, wunderlich (the man who didn't call the foul on fisher jumping on barry), salvatore (guiltier than guilt itself).

but, i won't be blaming them.

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103. "I'm sayin!"
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99. "ZOMG Webber still woulda found a way to choke away the series nm"
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FOH, Donaghy singing false notes like an American Idol reject

And most of you "Perception iz Really Reality" mofos are eating it up

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108. "It said 2002 and 2005"
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112. "2000 Western Conference Finals"
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Watch the 4th qtr of game 7 closely. There was no way the officials were going to let Hollywood lose that game. To me this was the point of no return for the NBA.

  

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113. "I gotta agree with the True Hoop guy"
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Everyone and their uncle has a conspiracy theory about the NBA, but in this day and age of DVR and YouTube, no one has any video to prove it.

If you really want people to believe, stop bitching and start doing your homework.

  

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116. "http://youtube.com/watch?v=JsH385NDTHM"
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3:36 The "Foul" on Bibby late in game 6

The whole quester was crazy but at that moment I realized there was no way the Lakers were losing this game.
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145. "^^^Watches basketball"
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114. "Who saw them ask Jeff Van Gundy about this at halftime?!"
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That fool was nervous and clearly trying to preserve his job!

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115. "What he said was accurate, though, they just gotta be transparent"
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He was mainly just mad that this decision to begin targeting Yao was made without notifying him that it was going to happen. If he had been aware that this was going to be an area of emphasis, he might have been able to adjust.

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117. "Yea he was caught between that company line and his REAL feelings"
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118. "Stern sounds a lot like The White House talking about Scott McClellan"
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Bitter, Disgruntled with his own agenda
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128. "^ ^ ^ ^ ^"
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nm

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119. "i'll say it again:"
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the NBA has been gerrymandered for a looooong time now. Obviously so.

Didn't somebody just make a post sayin this last week, and cats were clownin?

  

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140. "Folks don't want to believe there's no Santa Clause"
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>Didn't somebody just make a post sayin this last week, and
>cats were clownin?

I didn't make that post to celebrate the fact the NBA has lost much if not all of it's credibility. I loved the NBA more than any other league growing up. But it became clear things were getting out of hand and the only way to fix a problem is to first admit there is a problem.
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149. "i been skeptical since "turnaround jumper" jordan came back"
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to the league.

I mean, you couldn't JUMP with dude without a foul being called. Seems like it just got worse and worse as time went on

  

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120. "lol...if they did tell them to promote a game 7..."
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which if anyone believes....I got a sack of dookie i can sell you for $500.... ..

but even if they did.... the conspiracy started when the Lakers Kings series started in Sac....the calls in those first 2 games..specficly the flopping that Vlade was allowed to get away with was an embarrassment for the NBA..

conspiracy theorists...who are usually fans of teams and cities who never win any titles.....those folks who point to the Lakers Kings series have always been full of shit because they conveniently ignore the first 2 games in Sac.... 2 games worth of horrible calls compared to Kobe bryant getting some space and popping Bibby in the mouth on 1 play..

get over it folks..

the Lakers are the greatest franchise in Pro Sports History..

nobody is going to ask for any rings back just because some basehead gambling addicted low class ref says something..

sorry...lol...

  

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121. "lmao..."
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every time you say "greatest franchise in pro sports history" i laugh so hard i almost cry...

  

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122. "you're laughing while you've been watching us in the Finals"
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on the regular since you've been born..

Keep laughing...

  

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129. "the yankees don't have that title?"
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146. "or the canadiens. or the celtics."
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there's many options really, no matter which one you go with, it's still a ridiculous statement by him.

  

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150. "right"
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and let's not forget those other teams DOMINATE the championship series when they get there. the lake show is at like .500 in the finals, partially because of having to face the celtics so many times.

  

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123. "we won game 7 like true champs, sactown didn't have the balls to beat us"
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134. "RE: lol...if they did tell them to promote a game 7..."
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How are the Lakers the greatest franchise in sports history??????????

  

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137. "not even the best in the sport hahaha"
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166. "RE: lol...if they did tell them to promote a game 7..."
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They are at least in the discussion.

  

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126. "Two observations"
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1) I love that primarily Lakers fans are the ones calling "bullshit". i wonder if I would feel the same way if he had said this about the Rockets/Knicks series.

2) If he is lying, he picked the perfect series to say it was "fixed".

  

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131. "RE: Two observations"
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I love how haters fail to bring up games 2 and 5.

Face it the Lakers were on their way to another sweep and 15-1 playoff run until the questionable reffing in Game 2. Games 2 5 and 6 all had questionable calls. People just look at Game 6 because of 27 free throws but fail to mention the 6-8 intentional fouls by the Kings in the 4th that inflated the number.

I do not know if the series was rigged but it was no where near one sided like so many claim. The Kings still shot 20 more free throws then the Lakers at the end the series.

  

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132. "^^^POST OVER!!"
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138. "I'm not a hater and I'm not denying how it GOT to game 6"
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But the game in question was Game 6, not Game 2, not Game 5 so why do you keep bringing those up.

I'm not denying that Sac blew Game 7 by missing all those free throws.

but should there have been a Game 7 is the question
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141. "Weapons of mass distraction"
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Anyone that thinks game #2 and/or #5 of that series was even at 1/10th the level of game #6 is a liar or stupid.

Just stop
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163. "we won game 7. in your building."
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did the refs make you miss 14 free throws?

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168. "Again, why do you keep talking about Game 7? GAME SIX IS IN QUESTION!"
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I don't know why you are getting so defensive.

An allegation was made about one game. You seem to be avoiding discussing that game by focusing on foul calls in games 2 and 5 and the OT win in game 7

What about Game 6?

  

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169. "there's a lot of games in question for a suspect job by refs einstein"
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you want me to focus soley on the questionable officiating in game 6 and totally disregard the wack officiating in other games of the series that benefitted sactown...games that they won? AND disregard the fact that we won a game 7 on the road to PROVE that we were the defending champs and deserved to move on to the finals?

laker fans remember that series and all the bad calls that went both ways..but we rarely bring it up because we couldn't give a fuck less, we won the series. do you know why most people don't whine that the mavs got robbed in the finals in 2006? because they had a chance to win it all with games 6 and 7 at home. they worked all year for homecourt advantage in the playoffs. but they still ended up losing a must-win game at home. just like the queens.

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174. "The first two words here says it all"
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"laker fans remember that series and all the bad calls that went both ways"

Laker fans. Everyone else saw what happened in game 6 as far more egregious than just your average poorly officiated game. Ralph Nader wasn't asking for an investigation of game 2 or 5.

And to be clear, I was a Warriors fan at the time of the 2002 wcf. Was a pulling for the Kings" Sure. But at that time I was against the Lakers more than I was for the Kings. None of this really matters though. As you said "Laker fans remember" while everyone else saw what went down.

And for the record, The Kings blew game 7. But the fact there was a game 7 is the whole point of this. The allegation was they wanted the series extended. That's exactly what happened. What went down in game 7 is a moot point. Historically who knows how many titles would change hands if the team down 3-2 won game 6. A legitimate league doesn't give "do overs"
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179. "RE: The first two words here says it all"
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They stretch the series way before game 6. Game 2 and 5. People focus on the 27 freethrows in the 4th but leave out that the kings committed 8 intentional fouls in the 4th. Kings benefitted from the refs just as much as the Lakers if not more. Kings had game 7 on their floor and lost.

  

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182. "I love how you keep going back to this"
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"Kings had game 7 on their floor and lost"

You really have nothing at this point

That's cool. Keep pretending if it keeps you from beating your girlfriend
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127. "this is probably true"
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I suspect dick b. - either as a ref on the take or a company man. I've been saying this about the refs for the longest. espn will continue to disparage donaghy but the fbi will hopefully put together a watertight case. this garbage needs to be exposed, way more important than performance enhancers.

  

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135. "A question for Lakers fans"
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Your team aside. Have you ever seen a NBA game where you really thought that one team or player was receiving preferential treatment?



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136. "Miami Heat - 2006 Finals."
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139. "already knew already knew"
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the league been doing this shit for years

the world is a toll-free toilet-george clinton

  

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142. "From a Sports Guy column in 2002"
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http://proxy.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/020606

#

Question: What was the most disturbing subplot of the playoffs?
Answer: The officiating, also the most disturbing subplot of the past four playoffs. If you examine the last four NBA playoff campaigns, during every situation where the league definitively "needed" one of the two teams involved to win -- either to A) change the momentum of a series so it didn't end prematurely, B) keep an attractive, big-market team alive in a series, or C) advance an attractive, big-market team to another round -- the officiating appeared to be slanted towards the team that needed that game. I use the phrase "appeared to be," because reviewing an official's performance is purely subjective. Maybe I'm dead-wrong.

These were just the games that jump out in my mind (again, I could be wrong):

# 1999, Knicks-Pacers, Game 3 ... LJ sinks a game-winning four-pointer (called a continuation foul by referee Jess Kersey even though LJ was fouled a full second before he released the ball).

# 1999, Knicks-Pacers, Game 6 ... Knicks last chance to close out Indy before the series shifts back to Indiana for Game 7 ... they get every call.

# 1999, Spurs-Knicks, Game 3 ... down 2-0, the Knicks get every call in their first home game and win their only game of the series.

# 2000, Knicks-Heat, Game 7 ... Knicks advance to the conference finals ... falling out of bounds, Latrell Sprewell awarded a timeout by referee Bennett Salvatore with 2.1 seconds left even though none of the Knicks called for one ... Sprewell admits after the game that he hadn't called a timeout ... the Miami players chase the referees off the court after the game, yelling that they had been robbed ... after the game, Jamal Mashburn tells reporters, "They had three officials in their pocket" and Tim Hardaway refers to referee Dick Bavetta as "Knick Bavetta."

# 2000, Lakers-Blazers, Game 7 ... LA shoots 21 more free throws and rallies back from a 17-point deficit in the final seven minutes ... Shaq plays an illegal defense down the stretch, undaunted ... Rasheed Wallace absolutely gets manhandled down the stretch, yet doesn't get a single call ... up by four with 25 seconds left, Shaq body-blocks Steve Smith out of bounds and the refs don't make the call (the most egregious non-call in recent memory).

# 2002, Celtics-Nets, Game 4 ... Celts up 2-1 ... the Nets are inexplicably allowed to push and shove Kenny Anderson and Pierce while they dribble the ball ... a number of head-scratchers go against Boston, including three offensive charges down the stretch ... four different "bull-(bleep)" chants during the game.

# 2002, Lakers-Kings, Game 6 ... LA needs a win to stay alive ... from an officiating standpoint, the most one-sided game of the past decade ... at least six dubious calls against the Kings in the fourth quarter alone ... LA averaged 22 free throws a game during the first five games of the series, then attempted 27 freebies in the fourth quarter alone of Game 6 ... rumors that David Stern wanted to pull a Vince McMahon and declare himself "The special guest referee" for this game prove unfounded.

(By the way, I would feel remiss if I didn't share this information: Dick Bavetta was assigned to every one of the above games. That's an absolute fact. You can look it up. Doesn't mean anything ... I just felt the need to pass that along. It sure looks bad, doesn't it? Maybe the league could do a favor for Bavetta and not assign him to Game 3 of the Finals, especially if the Lakers jump to a 2-0 lead over New Jersey. You wouldn't want to rile up those conspiracy theorists or anything. Ummmm ...)
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144. "These two always stuck out to me especially that Blazers game"
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# 2000, Knicks-Heat, Game 7 ... Knicks advance to the conference finals ... falling out of bounds, Latrell Sprewell awarded a timeout by referee Bennett Salvatore with 2.1 seconds left even though none of the Knicks called for one ... Sprewell admits after the game that he hadn't called a timeout ... the Miami players chase the referees off the court after the game, yelling that they had been robbed ... after the game, Jamal Mashburn tells reporters, "They had three officials in their pocket" and Tim Hardaway refers to referee Dick Bavetta as "Knick Bavetta."

# 2000, Lakers-Blazers, Game 7 ... LA shoots 21 more free throws and rallies back from a 17-point deficit in the final seven minutes ... Shaq plays an illegal defense down the stretch, undaunted ... Rasheed Wallace absolutely gets manhandled down the stretch, yet doesn't get a single call ... up by four with 25 seconds left, Shaq body-blocks Steve Smith out of bounds and the refs don't make the call (the most egregious non-call in recent memory).

  

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147. "RE: These two always stuck out to me especially that Blazers game"
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Blazers choked.

  

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148. "I mentioned that 2000 Laker-Blazer game in my post"
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That game was just as fishy as game #6 of The 2002 WCF. That was the beginning of the end for me with Stern's NBA.
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151. "that blazers game was some bullshit"
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pure unadulterated bullshit

  

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152. "RE: that blazers game was some bullshit"
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pure unadulterated chokejob

  

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159. "I'd love to see a team choke without the other team parading to the line"
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funny how it never really worked out like that
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165. "RE: I'd love to see a team choke without the other team parading to the ..."
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stop hackin!

  

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176. "Portland missed 19 straight shots....and had a 13 point cushion entering"
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LMAO @ you trying to blame it solely on the ft's in that situation. I very recently rewatched the game, and Portland had some excellent excellent looks that coulda really put us in a hole.

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178. "you do realize i don't give a fuck about the lakers, right?"
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lakers fans in this piece makin it about the lakers, when its about the refs.

so get over yourself, cousin

  

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185. "cosign, i blame bavetta & them for portland missing all those shots too"
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153. "smh @ Bavetta"
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>(By the way, I would feel remiss if I didn't share this
>information: Dick Bavetta was assigned to every one of the
>above games. That's an absolute fact. You can look it up.
>Doesn't mean anything ... I just felt the need to pass that
>along. It sure looks bad, doesn't it? Maybe the league could
>do a favor for Bavetta and not assign him to Game 3 of the
>Finals, especially if the Lakers jump to a 2-0 lead over New
>Jersey. You wouldn't want to rile up those conspiracy
>theorists or anything. Ummmm ...)

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157. "that really is a bad look right there, they oughta investigate"
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and in all seriousness I've been a Stern supporter on these boards for quite some time, but when people start lining it up and you have a potential whistle blower, you gotta wonder...

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160. "The NBA has an interesting method of investigating"
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Bob Delaney said today he was never questioned regarding game 6 of the 2002 WCF. Stern said last night that all of these allegations had been "throughly investigated". I'd love to see a reporter follow up and this and ask Stern what that investigation entailed but you know it won't happen.
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173. "saw that same interview, if I could do a people's eyebrow, I would"
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>Bob Delaney said today he was never questioned regarding game
>6 of the 2002 WCF. Stern said last night that all of these
>allegations had been "throughly investigated". I'd love to see
>a reporter follow up and this and ask Stern what that
>investigation entailed but you know it won't happen.

How the fuck you gonna say you investigated when the man has never been questioned? Somebody from the outside really needs to step in here.

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154. "Spurs fans safe!!"
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Spurs = ratings killa
Stern no likey Spurs.
Pop sez f0ck you Sternzy! We winnin!
Spurs legit champs!


Seriously though, I sincerely hope these ARE conspiracy theories and Donaghy is a filthy liar but the the truth needs to come out. Stern has always been too ratings/image conscious.

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156. "*waits for someone to mention 2006 suns series*"
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clean titles para los spurs

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155. "At this point I wonder if Bavetta fixed the Barkley race."
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158. "I don't know what I enjoy more"
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Watching Lakers fans whine and whine and whine

or

Another Boston sports fuck up (if there is evidence that this series can be part of this whole rigging thing).

Best of both worlds...I can't lose!

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161. "With Boston and LA the only thing they care about is 6 or 7 games"
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Plus with all the heat on now I doubt you'll see anything really crazy. I'd expect more games with the FTs being within 10-14. If anything they might go out of their way to make sure a game doesn't end up with one team shooting 15-20 more FTs.
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170. "RE: With Boston and LA the only thing they care about is 6 or 7 games"
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you speak the whole truth Man period man. Stern wants this finals to go 6 or 7 games easily but I don't see Kobe and the lakers holding the trophy because of the sentiment that the Lakers are gonna get the calls.

Donaghy needs a reality show like tonight because this shit is only the tip of the iceburg. we can go back to the phantom call against Scottie Pippen in the 94 playoff series with the Bulls and Knicks. i mean shit been fixed for years for many.

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167. "RE: I don't know what I enjoy more"
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Yall never stop whinning. Fans of loser franchises tend to do that.

  

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171. "the fact that you bothered to post a reply to me says a lot"
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180. "RE: the fact that you bothered to post a reply to me says a lot"
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it says what I typed.

  

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162. "Next to Salvatore, Dick Bavetta is the worst goddamn ref in like ever"
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I've always thought Bavetta was the worst ref in the game (Salvatore is a close second because of his incompetence). The home crowd loves him because he gets so emotionally wrapped up in the games and favors the hometown way too much.

He and others like Crawford love to give exaggerated officiating motions like ferocious hip thrusts for blocking foul calls and long-windup signal calls for offensive fouls.

Too many of these guys love to be part of the production. Bavetta's race with Barkley and man kiss at the end was a travesty. Maybe Stern and league officials are "directly" giving orders but they no which ref to assign a particular game to. The league needs to fire every single ref and start with refs who have sack and will not be influenced by a crowd, superstars and star coaches.

But that will never happen.

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164. "wilbon actually not trumpeting the company line sorta on PTI..."
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172. "the bigger the lie, the more they believe."
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175. "love how ESPN is all over the "Donaghy lied!" train"
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that couldnt be the 7 billion dollar NBA contract talking could it?

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177. "Honestly...folks need to look at games 1 and 2"
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of that series...

the fact that people are focusing on game 6..... and the fact that ESPN keep showing clips of the Kings committing fouls ...ie the Bibby play which was clearly a fouls on Bibby....just shows that all this is a part of the overall Laker Hate that has infested the minds and souls of people for years...


When you defend a player all up close..inside his space and making contact with him...that's called a foul...a player is allowed space...Bibby didn't give Kobe space.and he got hit in the the mouth..

Period Point Blank..

and please please please let the media and the fans of losing teams continue to trump this up..because all it's doing it smaking the Lakers stronger.... Laker hate is like Horny Goat Weed and Yohimbe.... It makes us ride harder....lol.

  

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183. "You my boy and all but this is a Laker talking point and nothing more"
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This is not about what Laker or Kings fans think. It goes far beyond that. Objective observers of that series found problems with game 6 not 2 or 5. That fact Phil Jackson cried about the calls in those games only helps the argument the league is sensitive to the needs of flagship franchises.
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186. "RE: You my boy and all but this is a Laker talking point and nothing mor..."
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Objective is subjective.

  

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187. "LOL Laker fans really are getting good at Republicans tactics"
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Keep throwing enough shit out there and the original argument will be lost

Problem is the public isn't buying this shit.
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188. "RE: LOL Laker fans really are getting good at Republicans tactics"
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games 2 and 5 of 2002 west Finals = 24 shot violation in game 4 of 2008 west finals. Haters are afraid to talk about it.

  

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189. "Not going to work dude"
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The genie is out of the bottle
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181. "any1 else feeling dumbER for betting on the nba in that era"
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I was in college gambling on the nba like a muhfucka and shady shit would go down all the time... I wish I had like some detailed records of every game that made me scratch my head back in that era...

ever notice the spread is always so close and sometimes if a team is down like 6 with 10 seconds left they will try to foul and sometimes the refs call it sometimes they dont... who knows how regularly shit was goin down...



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184. "Anyone know the name of the ex-ref who confirmed part of this?"
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ESPN was running a crawl last night that said this ref, while denying a league official every told them to call the came for one team, did say they would come in and plant the seed by telling them to watch certain players.
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