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"mcnabb to the redskins (confirmed)"
Sun Apr-04-10 07:42 PM by smutsboy

  

          

this cant be right

Filed to ESPN: Donovan McNabb has been traded to the Washington Redskins. Compensation still unknown. But McNabb's a Redskin.
http://twitter.com/Adam_Schefter/status/11613372960



The Kevin Kolb Era is now underway in Philadelphia.
http://twitter.com/Adam_Schefter/status/11613451621

Confirmed:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/donovan-mcnabb/mcnabb-traded-to-redskins.html

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http://twitter.com/malael

  

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Subject Author Message Date ID
All over ESPN2/ESPNEWS right now....
Apr 04th 2010
1
LOL That's fantastic
Apr 04th 2010
2
yeppers.
Apr 04th 2010
3
*buys shares in this post*
Apr 04th 2010
4
i need at least two shares.
Apr 04th 2010
6
same re: baseball. you're in w/ an option to buy more at $400 a share
Apr 04th 2010
8
      man twitter is already going crazy.
Apr 04th 2010
16
Quadruple platinum?
Apr 04th 2010
47
      his options are already vested...lol
Apr 05th 2010
415
!!!!!!!!!
Apr 04th 2010
5
<-------- Giants fan. Fuck.
Apr 04th 2010
7
RE: <-------- Giants fan. Fuck.
Apr 04th 2010
13
I'm sure Snyder or someone will still fuck it up
Apr 04th 2010
21
RE: <-------- Giants fan. Fuck.
Apr 04th 2010
68
      his record against the Giants is pretty damn good
Apr 04th 2010
75
      RE: his record against the Giants is pretty damn good
Apr 04th 2010
92
      He's better than Jason Campbell. We can still beat them its just not id...
Apr 04th 2010
114
In division? WoOoOoW
Apr 04th 2010
9
WOWOWOWOW
Apr 04th 2010
10
RE: WOWOWOWOW
Apr 04th 2010
30
lol, I cant believe the Birds were crazy enough to call you on that ruse
Apr 05th 2010
353
early tweet: 2nd rounder + a conditional 3rd or 4th next year
Apr 04th 2010
11
But But...he's a Hall of fame caliber QB
Apr 04th 2010
15
      He is Hall of Fame caliber. Easily.
Apr 04th 2010
32
      No he's not, No he's not, & no you didnt
Apr 04th 2010
43
      nah, he's got some work to do, your bullshit Elway theory will certainly
Apr 05th 2010
355
      Is Randy Moss?
Apr 04th 2010
70
      2nd in TD's all time, 3rd in 100+yd games, 3rd most years leading the le...
Apr 04th 2010
79
           Point Being
Apr 04th 2010
85
           Point Being
Apr 04th 2010
90
           a dumbass point nonetheless. trade value is non-correlative
Apr 04th 2010
98
                Forgive me for being unimpressed by McNabb's career numbers & passer
Apr 04th 2010
110
                     His #s are far better than John Elway's #s at the same stage.
Apr 04th 2010
188
                          http://www.bobrosato.com/content/photos/USPW_1002454-01.jpg
Apr 04th 2010
194
                               so elway wasn't a HOFer before 1997?
Apr 08th 2010
547
      He is. He will be. Write it down. Remember it. It will happen.
Apr 04th 2010
83
      The 49ers traded Montana, a backup safety and their 3rd rounder
Apr 05th 2010
331
What kind of sense does this make for the Eagles?
Apr 04th 2010
12
do you understand how valuable that pick is?
Apr 04th 2010
17
Yep, the shock has faded
Apr 04th 2010
35
it's almost better than a high first rounder
Apr 04th 2010
45
and you're basically trying to rationalize a hilariously bad trade
Apr 04th 2010
49
      THERE IS NO RATIONALIZING THIS
Apr 04th 2010
55
Almost nothing the Eagles have done this offseason has made sense
Apr 04th 2010
89
      Eh, not that clearly, but, sure, possibly
Apr 05th 2010
431
           the eagles got a lot younger this offseason
Apr 06th 2010
510
wow.
Apr 04th 2010
14
*dead*
Apr 04th 2010
18
LOL, nothing on WaPo right now. Saw the alert watching the Wiz game....
Apr 04th 2010
19
why are people shocked?
Apr 04th 2010
20
obviously
Apr 04th 2010
22
yup.
Apr 04th 2010
24
pretty much
Apr 04th 2010
28
Just don't see this that often anymore
Apr 04th 2010
41
"just because"? as if we not playin them two times a year? :\
Apr 05th 2010
257
Eagles need back-up. Tebow? *smiles*
Apr 04th 2010
23
*blinks*
Apr 04th 2010
25
they must think mcnabb is shot
Apr 04th 2010
26
Eagles = 4th in the division.. hahahahahahaha!!!
Apr 04th 2010
27
WOW...This is going to be SO interesting.
Apr 04th 2010
29
*sigh of relief*
Apr 04th 2010
31
RE: *sigh of relief*
Apr 04th 2010
56
Yes, I was here
Apr 04th 2010
33
Jason Campbell lost
Apr 04th 2010
34
To the Skins? Cotdamnit
Apr 04th 2010
36
Dog, I feel you
Apr 04th 2010
168
Can we make a list of backups who got a starter role after a few good ga...
Apr 04th 2010
37
Elvis Grbac from SF to KC?
Apr 04th 2010
211
Rob Johnson, Matt Cassell (so far)
Apr 05th 2010
303
Matt Schaub
Apr 05th 2010
336
that bol from tennessee? dayum, can't rememb-- VOLEK!! yeah. HE
Apr 05th 2010
376
its amazing,
Apr 05th 2010
502
OMFG we're so fucking stupid.
Apr 04th 2010
38
At least it wasn't an aging LB.
Apr 04th 2010
40
Yeh, that's a solid solid pick you guys gave up
Apr 04th 2010
53
you a bitch
Apr 04th 2010
93
ad hominem
Apr 04th 2010
132
I think you'll be changing your mind.
Apr 04th 2010
116
      Nope. Here's how it's going to go down.
Apr 04th 2010
138
           You don't have any faith in Shanahan? Teams can rebuild in a year
Apr 04th 2010
172
                just let him brood
Apr 04th 2010
174
                you're an idiot
Apr 04th 2010
179
                Who the hell is y'all?
Apr 04th 2010
213
                Faith in Shanahan as the GM? Nope, said that from day 1.
Apr 04th 2010
198
                     Okay then
Apr 04th 2010
216
Redskins have the division under wraps now
Apr 04th 2010
39
lol
Apr 04th 2010
44
...in 2006
Apr 04th 2010
50
      See that division title over there?
Apr 04th 2010
62
      we gonna see
Apr 04th 2010
64
           Full disclosure: Had a LOT of easter wine last night
Apr 05th 2010
286
      he said under wraps.
Apr 04th 2010
63
RE: mcnabb to the redskins??
Apr 04th 2010
42
A 2nd round draft pick in 2010
Apr 04th 2010
46
because it's a great fucking trade for the Eagles
Apr 04th 2010
60
AHAHAHA CHRISTMAS IN FUCKIN APRIL FAGS!!! WHOOOO!
Apr 04th 2010
48
SERIOUSLY ANDY REID SHOULD BE FIRED FOR THIS!!!
Apr 04th 2010
54
we gonna see
Apr 04th 2010
59
RE: SERIOUSLY ANDY REID SHOULD BE FIRED FOR THIS!!!
Apr 04th 2010
81
Here's a novel idea donk: HE WAS POORLY COACHED FROM DAY 1
Apr 04th 2010
91
RE: Here's a novel idea donk: HE WAS POORLY COACHED FROM DAY 1
Apr 04th 2010
124
RE: SERIOUSLY ANDY REID SHOULD BE FIRED FOR THIS!!!
Apr 04th 2010
235
      McNabb hasn't been the difference maker in a playoff game since 2001
Apr 05th 2010
360
esp since Reid's offensive philiosophy is a big part of the Eagles failu...
Apr 04th 2010
82
      But Reid always ran the ball more when McNabb wasn't playing
Apr 04th 2010
94
           I should fuckin hope so... lol
Apr 04th 2010
106
                Yeah I KNOW. That's always been one of their biggest problems
Apr 04th 2010
118
                It's not even about running more
Apr 04th 2010
153
lmao
Apr 04th 2010
58
^^^ just threw his jacket on the ground and elbowdropped it
Apr 04th 2010
Our generation's Sonny!
Apr 04th 2010
119
Fuck your happiness and joy f(-_- f )
Apr 05th 2010
258
Im f*ckin BESIDE MYSELF
Apr 04th 2010
51
Seriously? On Easter Sunday? Is it just me, or does that seem
Apr 04th 2010
52
yup and the Cavs and Lakers played today too. O THE HORROR
Apr 04th 2010
181
Like whoa. Yeah, um, yeah
Apr 04th 2010
57
for the record, like the trade
Apr 04th 2010
61
this ain't spot relief brah.... this is ALL 16 games..
Apr 04th 2010
69
Skins aren't a terrible organization?
Apr 04th 2010
72
it's a no-brainer for the Eagles.
Apr 04th 2010
76
No brainer as in the Eagles lacked a brain when they ok'd it
Apr 04th 2010
99
Or a QB who under a reasonable offensive system w/ a running game
Apr 04th 2010
103
McNabb is still good
Apr 04th 2010
129
      but he could stay healthy & lead your team for the next 5 years
Apr 04th 2010
137
      lots of things could happen
Apr 04th 2010
163
      ^^stuck on repeat
Apr 05th 2010
259
I don't get why people act like he's washed up. He's not.
Apr 04th 2010
109
      Exactly... I checked his #s... last year was the 3rd highest QB rating
Apr 04th 2010
120
      what the fuck are you talking about here:
Apr 05th 2010
367
           I'm referring to the scheme
Apr 05th 2010
504
                you need players to scheme, Shanny's West Coast has done a lot
Apr 06th 2010
516
You cant be serious. He went to a DIVISION RIVAL.
Apr 04th 2010
87
GOD DAMN THE COWBOYS GOT THE EAGLES SO SHOOK
Apr 04th 2010
65
WHAT THE BLEEP!!!!!
Apr 04th 2010
66
This is possibly the worst move of the Snyder Era
Apr 04th 2010
67
You would shit on this move
Apr 04th 2010
80
I think Smuts needs to go look @ McNabbs #s last year along with
Apr 04th 2010
115
I think you need to look at our offensive line
Apr 04th 2010
141
      part of that was Campbell's ineffectiveness & inexperience
Apr 04th 2010
149
      No, Levi Jones, Dockery, Rabach, Big Mike Williams and Heyer SUCK
Apr 04th 2010
161
      I think you're overrating the Eagles O-line a bit
Apr 04th 2010
151
When you're rebuilding you don't trade picks for veterans.
Apr 04th 2010
117
man you take McNabb NOW
Apr 04th 2010
134
      someone needs to remind Smuts the Skins have had 1 double-digit
Apr 04th 2010
144
      that is exactly my point.
Apr 04th 2010
166
      we're rebuilding. we should be hoarding picks.
Apr 04th 2010
145
Another high draft pick for an old guy
Apr 05th 2010
441
you are a moron, the chiefs gave up a higher pick for WHITE CASSEL
Apr 05th 2010
270
      how about you up it when we win PLAYOFF GAMES
Apr 05th 2010
443
      The o-line isn't about to be all set by drafting one rookie tackle
Apr 05th 2010
448
I bleed green, but I'm sorry....I'm not rooting against the 'Skins
Apr 04th 2010
71
Sad
Apr 04th 2010
73
And as a side note, if you thought OKS' NFC East shit talking was bad be...
Apr 04th 2010
74
WORST FUCKING TRADE IN EAGLES HISTORY
Apr 04th 2010
77
I'm just mad that we couldnt get a vet to go along w/the picks
Apr 04th 2010
78
so a non-descript "vet"
Apr 05th 2010
341
and I thought the Chargers were the dumbest team in the NFL
Apr 04th 2010
84
Came in to look at the mayhem
Apr 04th 2010
86
Kolb is gonna make haters mad.
Apr 04th 2010
88
^^teaching em. we gonna be rich, cville
Apr 04th 2010
95
Make the Donovan haters mad, you mean.
Apr 04th 2010
104
you need to dial down the Syracuse bullshit a bit
Apr 05th 2010
371
      Man, I really hope Kolb is the truth
Apr 05th 2010
506
The real question: How long before people turn on Kolb?
Apr 04th 2010
111
Eagles went 11-5 with a playoff appearance last year....
Apr 04th 2010
131
Depends on whether or not Vick's still around
Apr 04th 2010
140
I have a lot of confidence in Kolb....It's just a shame that McNabb
Apr 04th 2010
133
as long as Andy Reid is your coach...
Apr 04th 2010
135
$100 the Eagles won't get to 11 wins...
Apr 04th 2010
187
diamond in the rough
Apr 04th 2010
191
Michael Vick will be the people's choice before week 1...
Apr 04th 2010
206
He's a black QB.. the people ain't calling for him.
Apr 04th 2010
214
Basically. They finally got a white guy after 11 yrs of black
Apr 04th 2010
215
Im on board with Mike Vick over Corn Cobb
Apr 05th 2010
428
hold on fam! Kolb is a houston kid. we BEEN in on that IPO
Apr 05th 2010
265
Yeah, you're good.
Apr 05th 2010
267
THE DOC WIPES HIS ASS WITH SAID STOCK!
Apr 05th 2010
347
So wait: who's dumber? Eagles or Skins?
Apr 04th 2010
96
Reid LIVE on ESPN NOW
Apr 04th 2010
97
Peep this irony:
Apr 04th 2010
105
      LOL
Apr 04th 2010
112
Just wanted to see if OK Sports broke in half or not...
Apr 04th 2010
100
man i was hoping for the raiders. cmon Vick
Apr 04th 2010
101
im not mad at this
Apr 04th 2010
102
so, who's Philly looking to draft with this pick?
Apr 04th 2010
107
Another bust on the D-line probably.
Apr 04th 2010
121
hopefully packaging some picks to move up and get Eric Berry
Apr 04th 2010
122
      http://www.lauppert.ws/screen1/win16/pipedream-lucasarts.png
Apr 04th 2010
127
      I'd rather stand pat and try to hit CB, OL, and S
Apr 04th 2010
130
MoveOn.org
Apr 04th 2010
108
*sigh*
Apr 04th 2010
113
THIS TRADE IS AN INSULT
Apr 04th 2010
123
team > 1 man. simple decision
Apr 04th 2010
125
if its about team why make a team in your division better?
Apr 04th 2010
139
      are they making them better?
Apr 04th 2010
143
           ummm yea....
Apr 04th 2010
146
                i think the eagles cut ties at the right time
Apr 04th 2010
150
                     so right now...did the redskins get better?
Apr 04th 2010
152
                          symantically, yes.
Apr 04th 2010
155
                               thank you...save the keystrokes grasshopper
Apr 04th 2010
159
                               lol@ semantically
Apr 05th 2010
343
you can't really get hung up on names and history in some cases
Apr 04th 2010
154
What if that was the only team McNabb would deal with??
Apr 05th 2010
249
Rodney Peete was a quality QB during his brief stay in Philly
Apr 05th 2010
382
ESPN is saying Reid did it to *HELP* McNabb:
Apr 05th 2010
491
you make mcnabb sound like a victim and he's not
Apr 07th 2010
543
This team will never be a winner under this current leadership
Apr 04th 2010
126
Nice move for the Eagles
Apr 04th 2010
128
Yup. It's so fucking obvious.
Apr 04th 2010
147
Not if the Eagles can no longer contend it's not.. they won 11 games
Apr 04th 2010
157
I hope this ends up being like Elway at the end of his career.
Apr 04th 2010
136
i think the eagles organization really has contempt for its fans.
Apr 04th 2010
142
^^^what he said^^^
Apr 04th 2010
148
CHAD DUKES WON!
Apr 04th 2010
156
So who else thinks the Eagles finish last in the East this year?
Apr 04th 2010
158
Second place with a bullet.
Apr 04th 2010
164
I wish, but I really don't see it.
Apr 04th 2010
173
      I'm usually negative as hell
Apr 04th 2010
177
           Still don't see how that puts them in second
Apr 04th 2010
193
                I just don't see it with the Giants and Redskins.
Apr 04th 2010
197
                     I wish I could be as optomistic as you, but I can't.
Apr 04th 2010
208
                     McNabb had a good season last year eagles could have easily
Apr 04th 2010
220
                          Where are the extra wins coming from to get to 12-4 or 13-3?
Apr 04th 2010
224
                               The lost to the Raiders where andy threw the ball 50 times
Apr 04th 2010
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                                    They lost 13-9 to the Raiders
Apr 04th 2010
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                                         Which makes my point even more clear
Apr 05th 2010
246
                                              No. You said they'd win more games if they ran more.
Apr 05th 2010
269
                                                   No I said they would have won more games if they had a running game
Apr 05th 2010
401
*raises hand*
Apr 04th 2010
175
assuming the smurfs aren't more ass than normal I do...
Apr 04th 2010
184
they'll be first if they start Vick
Apr 04th 2010
196
sucks kornheiser is on vacation next week
Apr 04th 2010
160
My brother just shit his pants
Apr 04th 2010
162
Can you buy alcohol in PA on Sundays??
Apr 04th 2010
165
I foresee Vick becoming the starter at some point.
Apr 04th 2010
167
      that's what i'm hopin for. imagine vick with them weapons.
Apr 04th 2010
202
           "imagine vick with them weapons."
Apr 04th 2010
230
Kolb was booed at draft too!
Apr 04th 2010
169
and now the Eagles have ensured 4th place in the NFC East.
Apr 04th 2010
170
Its goin down in Washington
Apr 04th 2010
171
ironically i just got home from sending the day surrounded by 10+
Apr 04th 2010
176
I can't wait to play Madden.
Apr 04th 2010
178
Vick > McNabb
Apr 04th 2010
180
@ dog fighting
Apr 04th 2010
186
not @ smugglin weed on an aeroplane
Apr 04th 2010
192
my early thought: Bad move for both teams.
Apr 04th 2010
182
right now i think it's good for both teams.
Apr 04th 2010
183
damn when Iggles fans were sh'tting on McNabb
Apr 04th 2010
185
reading thru these replies i realize skins fans are some fucking IDIOTS
Apr 04th 2010
189
ain't nobody readin that long ass tissue, bitch. stop cryin.
Apr 04th 2010
201
Good Lord
Apr 04th 2010
203
RE: Good Lord
Apr 04th 2010
219
for the simple fact that McNabb is 10x> than anyone we've had
Apr 04th 2010
229
      dude the redskins got him cause mcnabb will be willing to re up LONG
Apr 04th 2010
239
RE: Good Lord
Apr 04th 2010
245
double post
Apr 04th 2010
204
y'all ain't winning 11 games this year.. cry about it..
Apr 05th 2010
262
who the fuck cares about winning 11 games?
Apr 05th 2010
387
u mad?
Apr 05th 2010
345
I'm on board
Apr 04th 2010
190
Skins fans should be dancing, since this means...
Apr 04th 2010
195
you don't give away multiple picks for a QB mentor
Apr 04th 2010
200
      "multiple picks"
Apr 04th 2010
212
           McNabb helps your goal, not mine.
Apr 04th 2010
221
                It is a rebuilding move.
Apr 05th 2010
260
                Then it's completely self defeating
Apr 05th 2010
271
                I'm with Don on this one
Apr 05th 2010
280
                     McNabb's abilities are not my point at all
Apr 05th 2010
281
                          ok but what were you going to do in the draft that would
Apr 05th 2010
302
                               You can't take such a narrow/short-term view of roster moves
Apr 05th 2010
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                               but you could easily have a 3-5 year window with McNabb
Apr 05th 2010
314
                                    You can't have it both ways
Apr 05th 2010
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                                         there's a difference btwn saying McNabb is a good enuff QB
Apr 05th 2010
349
                                              I don't really follow you.
Apr 05th 2010
358
                               dude, Dan Snyder could trade a 5th rounder for Adrian Peterson
Apr 05th 2010
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                                    you never actually engage in discussion
Apr 05th 2010
320
                                         i'm a fan, not Jason La Canfora
Apr 05th 2010
325
                                              I think it's a bad move, like most of our moves.
Apr 05th 2010
332
                                                   if you're so sure we're winning 6 games
Apr 05th 2010
338
                                                        I'm sure McNabb won't take us to back to back playoffs
Apr 05th 2010
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                                                             you've said multiple times here that we're going from 4 to 6 wins
Apr 05th 2010
346
                                                                  You win! My convictions are false!
Apr 05th 2010
348
                                                                       O RLY?
Apr 05th 2010
354
                                                                            Oh I'll up it yearly while McNabb never makes us a contender
Apr 05th 2010
356
                                                                                 Ok but will that be because of McNabb or Snyder not putting
Apr 05th 2010
359
                                                                                      that's not what I'm saying at all
Apr 05th 2010
364
                                                                                           Ok, but Smuts.. here me out..
Apr 05th 2010
369
                                                                                           Check:
Apr 05th 2010
375
                                                                                           Ok but you still need a QB...
Apr 05th 2010
380
                                                                                           Then go with JC for a year. Or even fucking Rex Grossman
Apr 05th 2010
390
                                                                                           yup. and if they extend mcnabb it's gonna be for a MINUTE lol
Apr 05th 2010
395
Good for #5. FUCK the Iggles now.
Apr 04th 2010
199
Shit, I'll be rooting for 5's success, except for twice a year
Apr 04th 2010
205
We're one Kolb injury away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Apr 04th 2010
207
*prays corn on the Kolb stinks it up*
Apr 04th 2010
209
      my nigga, you won't have to pray.
Apr 04th 2010
241
           I have zero idea how you continue to speak so definitively on Kolb
Apr 05th 2010
407
this is so fucking awesome
Apr 04th 2010
210
Well I'm done with the Eagles
Apr 04th 2010
217
Bye Bitch!
Apr 05th 2010
408
      Lol you dickriding turd surfing lame
Apr 05th 2010
421
           bitch why are u still here? You're 200+ posts passed ur expiration date
Apr 05th 2010
423
                Lol again you broke back mountain homotional ass fickle
Apr 05th 2010
425
                     pussy go find something else to do like u keep threatening to do
Apr 05th 2010
432
my thoughts on this...I'd rather have Campbell than McNabb..
Apr 04th 2010
218
um i'm ok with this actually
Apr 04th 2010
222
why you call him McFag man...
Apr 04th 2010
226
      it has nothing to do with his sexuality and it ain't that deep
Apr 04th 2010
244
           If Donovan ain't in the Pantheon of Philly sports..than there is no Pant...
Apr 05th 2010
248
           if kolb sucks he sucks. iono why yall are relating kolbs future to mcnab...
Apr 05th 2010
251
                400 yards against the Saints...
Apr 06th 2010
530
           RE: it has nothing to do with his sexuality and it ain't that deep
Apr 05th 2010
250
                damn that's a good ass analogy actually mcanbb == cutler
Apr 05th 2010
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                RE: damn that's a good ass analogy actually mcanbb == cutler
Apr 05th 2010
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                     no one is denying all that. AI did the same thing for the sixers...SO WH...
Apr 05th 2010
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                          RE: no one is denying all that. AI did the same thing for the sixers...S...
Apr 05th 2010
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                               um what
Apr 05th 2010
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                there's a line of demarcation here.
Apr 05th 2010
272
                     RE: there's a line of demarcation here.
Apr 05th 2010
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                          um a TON of eagle fans don't fuck with mcnabb, black, white or chinese
Apr 05th 2010
323
                          RE: um a TON of eagle fans don't fuck with mcnabb, black, white or chine...
Apr 05th 2010
337
                               In summation: the hate is irrational
Apr 05th 2010
362
                               u don't live in philly. mcnabb hate has nothing to do wit race
Apr 05th 2010
                                    RE: u don't live in philly. mcnabb hate has nothing to do wit race
Apr 05th 2010
388
                                    dude i don't give a FUCK that mcnabb is black , get it thru ur head
Apr 05th 2010
402
                                         LMAO @ this image
Apr 05th 2010
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                                         RE: dude i don't give a FUCK that mcnabb is black , get it thru ur head
Apr 05th 2010
444
                                    that coon is mad because he got brushed off.
Apr 05th 2010
389
                                         Bernard Hopkins is a fucking champion, fuck outta here
Apr 05th 2010
410
                                              so was Eli Manning.
Apr 05th 2010
424
                          One day someone is going to write a great book about McNabb
Apr 05th 2010
487
                               the local NAACP pres is an idiot
Apr 06th 2010
511
"I'd rather have Campbell than McNabb"
Apr 04th 2010
223
      no, for a rebuilding football team
Apr 04th 2010
233
      I honestly don't even think it's close.....Donovan is older...
Apr 04th 2010
242
           bottom line is neither of them is taking you to a super bowl
Apr 08th 2010
546
McNabb forced his way to DC? (swipe)
Apr 04th 2010
225
People will regret these words
Apr 04th 2010
227
I'm going to make a separate post
Apr 04th 2010
240
      I appreciate it
Apr 05th 2010
279
I can't take an article seriously that thinks Banner can get fired n/m
Apr 04th 2010
228
um a threat of retirement ain't shit really if the eagles were willing t...
Apr 05th 2010
247
lol @ mcfagg and jason campbell having similar numbers last yr
Apr 04th 2010
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100% accurate
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dayum
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prolly cuz when you LOSING you passing the ball all game? - lol
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shitting on McNabbs comp. % means u know NADA about football
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brees don't take shots? manning don't take shots? shut the fuck up
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      so it's McNabb and not the shitty ass system??
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      see, I think it's a bit of both but Eagles fans seem to have
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           naw i want Reid to get fired too. don't get it twisted. it's just that t...
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           fair enough, either way, can't imagine any eagle fan happy he's in
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           i don't know a single eagles fan who likes reid's playcalling
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           but the point is some of McNabb's ineffectiveness is BECAUSE
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                ehh. i think we'll see about the same mcnabb as last year
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                     but under Shanny w/a viable running game McNabb extend
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                          you're dealing in ifs and shoulds
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                               Bledsoe never had a QB rating of 90 or above his entire career
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           I see what you're doing Legacy.. lol you're playing madmaker
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           while that's a reasonable presumption - lol
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                We haven't forgotten anything
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                     ok but if Reid doesn't change then you realize you need a QB
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                          Nah, you need a QB who's a better fit for what Reid does.
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                               Ok so since Kolb is a better fit then the team should be better
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                                    McNabb won 10 games last year, just saying.
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           stop trying to pretend you have any idea what Eagle fans think
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                Oh sure I do...
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                     anything in there about how we love Andy Reid's playcalling?
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                          ^ hiding his mad for no particular reason ^
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                               and what I'm telling you is no, they don't, blame gets assigned to both
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                                    I guess if the fatman can change his ways I'd agree
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                                         agreed, I expect to win maybe 9 games next year, they still needed
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                                              it'll only be clowning if Donovan shows out in Washington and/or
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      RE: brees don't take shots? manning don't take shots? shut the fuck up
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           they didn't run it as much naw, but they still ran it and dumped off to
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the only stat that matters for a QB
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This post hasn't scratched the surface of it's full potential...
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yup worst thing they could do imo is trade jason campbell and re up
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Oh, this will get to 750 EASILY..
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I was sitting with family when this news dropped and wanted to log on SO...
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o and in classic Eagles fashion they stole the show from Phillies
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The Eagles hate the Phillies so much.. lol
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good trade for both sides IMO
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11 Competitive years 5 gave us, Greatest Eagle QB of all time
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Reid got some big balls (no homo)
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After a good nites sleep
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Cardinals will take Campbell. I think the kid is capable in a real offen...
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I'm shocked the Cards didn't get McNabb
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      I agree but I honestly don't want dude. He ain't a winner.
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           Your entire post proves you don't watch much football
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           If you say so coach. I know you ain't puttin McNabb on Kurt's level
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                What "ground game" did Philly have to "bail" McNabb out?
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                Oh Westbrook was a chump now? I'm pretty sure he got a lot
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                     You're proving my point
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                     Oh so you'd rather have had Hightower and Beanie during
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                          You're up here talking like Warner won a ring with the Cards
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                               You're up here talking like McNabb's SB performance = Warner's
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                                    RE: You're up here talking like McNabb's SB performance = Warner's
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                     RE: Oh Westbrook was a chump now? I'm pretty sure he got a lot
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                McNabb would have at least one ring had he been with the same cast
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                     naw man. Kurt Warner had two things McNabb doesn't
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                          No you're forgetting one thing
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                               you're forgetting one thing
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                               RE: you're forgetting one thing
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                                    A) That's not even sorta true B) He still puked in the huddle
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                                         OK so this is what we're doing
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                                         okay, why was he jogging 2 the huddle during crunch time?
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                                         RE: A) That's not even sorta true B) He still puked in the huddle
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                                              Dude is basically playing both sides here
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                                              and you're playing dumb
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                                                   Name me a 1500 back that's played with McNabb
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                                                        Portis' prime years were before JC was a starter same with Moss
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                                                             Portis' best year as a Skins starter was probably 2008 w/Campbell
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                                              you're hurting. I don't want to provoke you any more. stay up.
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                               let's dead this -
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                                    More INTS in less games
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                                         Oh I get it. hate on hater
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                                              Actually we're on the same side
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                                                   both are better than any QB the 9ers have too
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                                                        RE: both are better than any QB the 9ers have too
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                                                             haha. did i lie?
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           Campbell over Anderson and Leinart maybe
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           I'm serious but I never said it was rooted in stats
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                So the guy that's proven he can take you as far as you've ever been
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                     why is getting there good enough? and why are you arguing with
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                          Getting there is all your teams has done
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                               now you're just making it up
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                                    Honestly man you've proven time and time again you don't know much
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                                         what's that say about u for continuing to respond? wait,wait, I know
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                                              RE: what's that say about u for continuing to respond? wait,wait, I know
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                                                   what up Drillbit.
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           wtf, and Philly did?
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washington got totally hosed on this trade
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well...
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most games in the NFL are close
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      having a better leader/player could be the difference though
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           With how bad our offensive line is, I don't believe McNabb
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                offensive lines seem worse tho with bad QBs
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                     That's true
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                     mcnabb is better than campbell but he needs time to get thru his
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                     please discuss it.. I know Campbell was under a lot of pressure
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RE: washington got totally hosed on this trade
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and that pretty much makes Sam #1
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Objective thinking
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good summary
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i agree except for the Redskins taking the W part
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assuming you have a competent QB
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I don't get all the McNabb hate, I really don't
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Another small thing not being talked about in this post =
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Kolb won't get the grief McNabb gets
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      he's already got one on the bandwagon.
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           LMAO @ Dr. Robotnik
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Just bad business by the Skins once again
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RE: mcnabb to the skins (confirmed)
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i have no words to describe my heartbreak
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oh, and we offered Haynesworth first hahahahaha
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Yeah, I heard they're trying to drop him
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he played 60% of the 12 games he was active
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      i just read he got his $21 MILLION bonus on Thursday
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      Yeah but some dudes had career years
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Titans had it right when they made him play for contract yearly
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it was only a matter of time...
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ha!
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still in shock, haven't read the responses but was wondering if anybody
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If Kolb is decent, and Reid knows this, it's a great move
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Oh I see.. it's ok for Kolb to be *decent* when you traded away
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Kolb has won about the same amount of big games as McNabb
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      Summary: Tom Brady >> McNabb... wow, insightful...
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           Tom Brady >> McNabb = Lloy Carr >> Dick Rod...wow, insightful...
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           so basically you admit you didn't really say nathan.. - lol
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           o u mad
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                why would I be mad when we kicked y'all asses 3Xs? - lol
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yeah see I'm really not expecting that to happen, they're going to get
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Honest initial reaction: Worry or Optimism?
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      neither, confusion, I would have taken this deal from most teams
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what is the long-term plan for the Redskins at QB, though?
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^^reason why mcnabb is not in Eagles green^^
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      that is mos def a hilarious Andy Reid pic
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      Is that what all those SB titles say?
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One point of agreement: The NFC East shit talk will be phenomenal
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Kolb is on WIP right now. GOT DAMN he sound mature
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thats kinda gangster
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that'll endear him to the Phillyfags but it'll backfire.
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o clawwy , what u gonna do when mcfagg is injured and kolb
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what are you gonna do when Kolb ends up Cutler's backup?
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lol @ you actively rooting for an Eagles quarterback to fail
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      this is me holding up a mirror to SPM's wackass.
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           it's funny cause u doing the same shit u accused me of doing wit TO
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                accused?
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RE: o clawwy , what u gonna do when mcfagg is injured and kolb
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Doc you know the deal...
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his career will be worse than mcnabb's but he will be solid
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he sound cocky. tawmbout 'i knew they would make it happen' word?
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400+ replies in two days
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this will get to 750 easy & probably 1k sometime during the season
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And I got a monopoly on the stocks. I'M RICH BITCH!
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Farewell, Donovan, you are an Eagle great forever
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Eagles FO/MNGT is pretty spot on with cutting/trading players
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      RE: Eagles FO/MNGT is pretty spot on with cutting/trading players
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Seperate your emotions from this move for a second
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Without all the emotion that really is all there is...
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you're pretty much right, still makes me uncomfortable but I get it
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I don't trust the Eagles FO.
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eagles FO is top 5 in the league, doc
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      I reserve judgment.
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           the initial shock was bad, sure, but i think it signals that ...
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                Yall failing to Understand that McNabb dictated where he wanted
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I'm not even looking back at this point....I have faith in Kolb...
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lmao...they bout to extend him too
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5 yrs 15 mil a year!!!!
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you know damn well, they ain't gonna pay all that shit.
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it's lose/lose
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Maybe, but your team was pretty much worthless before he arrived.
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      you haven't read a single thing I've written
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           they were spending on a pick on a QB anyway
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                that doesn't make it ok. both are stupid moves
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                     call the wahmbulance!
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                          har har
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it made no sense to trade #36 oveall for a one year rental
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      they're gonna overpay
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           oh really? is kobe bryant gonna lick his lips? EASY PREDICTION, DUDE
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i'm just happy i can be anti-philly AND pro-black.
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lol
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lol @ all the latent bird-fan anger over not having lombardi trophies...
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^^^Sees it^^^
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ok Smuts, these are the last five 37th overall picks
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You're smarter than this. I know you are.
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its hit or miss dawg, and those are some hella misses
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      unicorns for everyone!
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that's kind of arbitrary
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shit, our team is essentially built on second-rounders right now
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      ur team sucks at drafting if its NOT like that
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Dude, we got no leverage to get high picks with Campbell or AH....
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      you won't even get a 3rd for Campbell & no one will take AH's deal
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           So many Redskins fans are lying to themselves right now
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                idk. the skins hold power over the best FA QB and Clausen
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                     JC gets a 4th rounder at best.
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                          1st rounder => http://i38.tinypic.com/2dmfku1.jpg
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http://www.autoracingdaily.com/images/blog/2010Daytona500lineup2.jpg
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why didnt they trade reid for a half eaten ham and cheese sammiche?
Apr 05th 2010
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this was a business decision & plenty of Eagle fans have expressed
Apr 06th 2010
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crazy ass Snyder wants a championship THIS year
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After reading all the comments, I still think this is a good trade
Apr 06th 2010
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this poast is FANtastic! (c) old nba commercials. its a 'genda Tsunami
Apr 06th 2010
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Peter King: Eagles possibly targeting Tebow (link/partial swipe)
Apr 06th 2010
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just King being King, won't even dignify that until it actually happened
Apr 06th 2010
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yea they are talking about the eagles drafting Skelton late around here
Apr 06th 2010
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this is bullshit, but GOT DAMMIT....
Apr 07th 2010
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This post is gonna be the gift that keeps on giving
Apr 06th 2010
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We all need to show up in for a few NFC East games..
Apr 06th 2010
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^
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lol, good to see the McNabb Martyr Complex is still intact (swipe)
Apr 08th 2010
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Donovan's message for the Philadelphia fans
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ONIONS!
Apr 15th 2010
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Sources: McNabb open to TO reunion
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BWAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!
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OctavioPaz
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1. "All over ESPN2/ESPNEWS right now...."
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3. "yeppers."
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4. "*buys shares in this post*"
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all of them are mine.

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08-09 Survivor Champion.

"I mean, I can pigeonhole people because I'm close-minded. But I'm special and different." (c) Walleye

"on the other hand 100% of the Islamic terrorists are Muslims." A f*cking congressman. smh.

  

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6. "i need at least two shares. "
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this shit is going to fuck up my baseball watching but i have to be here for the comedy alone

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8. "same re: baseball. you're in w/ an option to buy more at $400 a share"
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this shit is going to be like google's IPO once the philly and dc heads see this.

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"on the other hand 100% of the Islamic terrorists are Muslims." A f*cking congressman. smh.

  

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16. "man twitter is already going crazy. "
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im going be bouncing back and forth between here and there.

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It's a possibility.

  

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next offering is 700. vests in a week.

start of the season offering @ 1000.

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7. "<-------- Giants fan. Fuck. "
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"youre frustrated now? in undergrad? reading books all day?,
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13. "RE: <-------- Giants fan. Fuck. "
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that was my thought after i got over he was traded.

i was so looking forward to him being out of the division and they still got deal with him now. my hate for the eagles is slowly growing.

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21. "I'm sure Snyder or someone will still fuck it up"
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We're ok.

Everybody's got opinions on the way you're living but see they can't fill your shoes... Life is made of half-illusions... forty percent confusion, whatever's left I'm using... to keep myself from losing, yeah.

  

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68. "RE: <-------- Giants fan. Fuck. "
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I don't get this reaction. I'm a Giants fan too. What's so scary about McNabb still being in the division? Way I figure it is this just means he'll be bouncing the ball at the feet of different receivers and losing big games in a new uniform.

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75. "his record against the Giants is pretty damn good"
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especially when you consider that he lost his first 4 games against the Giants, as a starting QB. Since then, he's gotten the best of us too often.

  

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92. "RE: his record against the Giants is pretty damn good"
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but wasn't it Westbrook who you always really feared though? isn't it Jackson who you've feared the most the last 2 years?

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114. "He's better than Jason Campbell. We can still beat them its just not id..."
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9. "In division? WoOoOoW"
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They will tell you that they need you but they've got an ulterior motive - Personal gain

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10. "WOWOWOWOW"
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and, yes, the whole "i root for donovan thing" isn't going to work in division.

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30. "RE: WOWOWOWOW"
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>and, yes, the whole "i root for donovan thing" isn't going to
>work in division.

lol

  

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353. "lol, I cant believe the Birds were crazy enough to call you on that ruse"
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>and, yes, the whole "i root for donovan thing" isn't going to
>work in division.

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11. "early tweet: 2nd rounder + a conditional 3rd or 4th next year"
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15. "But But...he's a Hall of fame caliber QB"
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who was just traded for a 2nd round pick and some scraps

  

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32. "He is Hall of Fame caliber. Easily. "
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He's better than John Elway at the same stage of their
careers. I already proved that point on this board.

  

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43. "No he's not, No he's not, & no you didnt"
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MAD?

  

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355. "nah, he's got some work to do, your bullshit Elway theory will certainly"
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be put to the test now that he's playing for Shanahan though.

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70. "Is Randy Moss?"
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Because he got traded for less

Abdul Jabbar, Muggsy Malone you
I don't know what that means but you know what I meant when I told you (c) Sean Price

  

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79. "2nd in TD's all time, 3rd in 100+yd games, 3rd most years leading the le..."
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in tds, top 10 in 1000 yd seasons, 3rd most yds gained as a rookie, record for TDs in a season, record td's as a rookie,

Mcnabb: Most times vomiting on the field, Worst Superbowl closing drive

  

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85. "Point Being"
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A HOF player isn't decided by what he's traded for

  

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90. " Point Being"
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McNabb isnt a HOF Lock. Not even by a long shot. Perhaps to people who are used to watching less than stellar QB play I suppose

  

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98. "a dumbass point nonetheless. trade value is non-correlative"
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to career achievements.

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110. "Forgive me for being unimpressed by McNabb's career numbers & passer "
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rating

  

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188. "His #s are far better than John Elway's #s at the same stage. "
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Far, far, better.

I already exposed the Elway myth. McNabb is better.



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194. "http://www.bobrosato.com/content/photos/USPW_1002454-01.jpg"
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Forgive me for not entertaining your straw man any further


and by straw man I mean argument that literally has absolutely Shit all to do with the discussion at hand

  

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547. "so elway wasn't a HOFer before 1997?"
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83. "He is. He will be. Write it down. Remember it. It will happen."
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331. "The 49ers traded Montana, a backup safety and their 3rd rounder"
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for KCs 1st rounder (18th over all)

doesn't seem all that unusual for an aging QB on the backside of his career
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12. "What kind of sense does this make for the Eagles?"
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Gotta see the compensation....

And is Jason Campbell worth it for any QB needy teams?

  

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17. "do you understand how valuable that pick is?"
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it's basically a first rounder.

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35. "Yep, the shock has faded"
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>it's basically a first rounder.

ballsy move. Deal with the noise for a few more seasons (maybe only one?) and get a starter to fill a hole for 5-10 years.

  

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45. "it's almost better than a high first rounder"
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it's far more cost effective.

it was the one pick I was most excited about for the Redskins rebuilding.

it was crucial.

and now we gave it up for an over the hill QB

Dan Snyder, ladies and gentlemen.

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49. "and you're basically trying to rationalize a hilariously bad trade"
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55. "THERE IS NO RATIONALIZING THIS"
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from skins or birds side of the fence

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89. "Almost nothing the Eagles have done this offseason has made sense"
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Mike Bell was a good move. That's about it. They're basically blowing the team up. I have no idea what they expect to do next year. Eagles will CLEARLY be the worst team in the East.

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431. "Eh, not that clearly, but, sure, possibly"
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The defense is not going to be any WORSE, they are at least building a bit of depth there and with a new DC and some new players I think the chemistry could be improving.

On offense, we should be better everywhere BUT the quarterback position and that's only speaking relative to last year. McNabb had a good season but that doesn't mean he would have had an equally good one this year. And let's face it, he and the Eagles offense in general stunk against any real competition outside of the Giants last year. And it was not for lack of talent like in years past, maybe lack of experience or emotion, but not talent. That has to call his leadership into question a little, sorry.

Elsewhere the O-line should improve or at least be a little healthier, Bell is a nice addition to a backfield that had a rookie as a feature back (bound to improve) and Weaver whose role grew as the season progressed, and the wideouts are very young and very promising, I expect a breakout season from Macklin.

I am not making any huge predictions for the Eagles but nothing says the Giants really got it together (though they were better than their record to begin with), Washington could probably put Brady at QB and still have some difficulty scoring at this point and the Cowboys probably peaked last year. It's wide open IMO.

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510. "the eagles got a lot younger this offseason"
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which either will help in the long run or hurt.

either way, they get to see if kolb's a legit QB this year and afterwards can fix the defense and o-line more.
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14. "wow."
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18. "*dead*"
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19. "LOL, nothing on WaPo right now. Saw the alert watching the Wiz game...."
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this is big!
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20. "why are people shocked?"
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just because it's within the division?

  

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22. "obviously"
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>just because it's within the division?

  

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24. "yup."
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wasn't expecting that @ all.

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28. "pretty much"
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the trade we know was going to happen BUT in the division??

there's just so much potential for this to come back on them.

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41. "Just don't see this that often anymore"
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teams are too scared to even trade top players in the same conference

  

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257. ""just because"? as if we not playin them two times a year? :\"
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and clawing with them directly for standings position?

AND the extra shit like how much fans in the NFC East hate each other's guts?

Yea, that is pretty much it for me.

  

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23. "Eagles need back-up. Tebow? *smiles*"
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25. "*blinks*"
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26. "they must think mcnabb is shot"
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i cant comprehend this shit @ all


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27. "Eagles = 4th in the division.. hahahahahahaha!!!"
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http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5055346


Sunday, April 4, 2010
Sources: McNabb headed to Washington
By Adam Schefter
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The Philadelphia Eagles have reached agreement on a blockbuster intra-division trade that will send perennial Pro Bowl quarterback Donovan McNabb to the Washington Redskins, according to multiple sources close to the situation.

The two sides still must finalize language, but McNabb is now headed to Washington. Sources said the deal involved the Redskins' second-round pick in the 2010 draft and either a third- or fourth-round pick next year, depending on several factors.

The move means the Redskins now have a new starting quarterback and the Eagles have a new one as well in Kevin Kolb. Michael Vick is now in line as the team's backup.

Earlier, sources said McNabb's contract, which has one year and $11.2 million left on it, scared off several other teams. McNabb is due a $6.2 million roster bonus on May 5 and is scheduled to become a free agent after the 2010 season.

At the league meetings, head coach Andy Reid said the Eagles were listening to offers for all three quarterbacks, including 11-year veteran McNabb, who quickly said on his Web site that he wanted a quick resolution to the trade conversations.

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29. "WOW...This is going to be SO interesting."
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<-- Yeah right...

LOVELY...

  

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31. "*sigh of relief*"
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56. "RE: *sigh of relief*"
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ditto

  

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33. "Yes, I was here"
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And yes, I'm blown

  

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34. "Jason Campbell lost"
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.

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36. "To the Skins? Cotdamnit "
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Donovan in a skins jersey....the mental image is vomit-inducing.

Now I actually have to root against him....smh. Fuck.

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168. "Dog, I feel you"
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>Donovan in a skins jersey....the mental image is
>vomit-inducing.
>
>Now I actually have to root against him....smh. Fuck.

I'd feel sick right now if I wasn't so angry.

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37. "Can we make a list of backups who got a starter role after a few good ga..."
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And then busted

I keep trying to find a comprehensive list that Kolb is going to be added to but I cant.

Scott Mitchell for example

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211. "Elvis Grbac from SF to KC?"
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Don't know if he counts as a bust or not

  

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303. "Rob Johnson, Matt Cassell (so far)"
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336. "Matt Schaub"
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376. "that bol from tennessee? dayum, can't rememb-- VOLEK!! yeah. HE"
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was the truth, too.


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502. "its amazing,"
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dude plays GREAT while getting blown out by the saints...and then plays great against the doormats called the chiefs.

  

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38. "OMFG we're so fucking stupid."
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40. "At least it wasn't an aging LB."
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53. "Yeh, that's a solid solid pick you guys gave up"
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I thought we might be able to get more for Donovan in terms of right now, but I can see how that pick would be hard to pass up, even with the rest of the compensation being deferred.

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93. "you a bitch"
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132. "ad hominem"
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weak as usual

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116. "I think you'll be changing your mind."
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138. "Nope. Here's how it's going to go down."
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Our offensive line is going to be awful, McNabb is going to get hurt and miss time, our offense will rank in the 20-30 range again (aka below average/awful), and we'll once again pick in the top 10.

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172. "You don't have any faith in Shanahan? Teams can rebuild in a year"
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in this league. Turnarounds can be quick. It happens every season. You guys finally got a good head coach and GM. Things done changed.

Redskins right now >>>>>> Eagles.

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174. "just let him brood"
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179. "you're an idiot"
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>Redskins right now >>>>>> Eagles.


we have no defense
but yall have no offense (still)
difference is we have an owner who let's football people make football decisions
yall have dan synder
we'll still finish better than yall in the division
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213. "Who the hell is y'all?"
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And Snyder finally got a GM because he knows he don't know shit.

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198. "Faith in Shanahan as the GM? Nope, said that from day 1."
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We added an aging, injury prone QB, who while good, will be working with mediocre/bad talent around him, behind one of the worst offensive lines in the league.

This is window dressing on an offensive roster that needs a complete overhaul.

McNabb can't play behind an awful OL. No QB can.

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216. "Okay then"
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We'll see.

For now we'll both be bitter.

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39. "Redskins have the division under wraps now"
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44. "lol"
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50. "...in 2006"
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62. "See that division title over there?"
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Yeah, the Skins just won that bitch

  

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64. "we gonna see"
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286. "Full disclosure: Had a LOT of easter wine last night"
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63. "he said under wraps. "
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42. "RE: mcnabb to the redskins??"
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Wow...to a divisional rival?....wtf....

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46. "A 2nd round draft pick in 2010"
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and a 3rd OR 4th pick in 2011? Might there even be a lockout in 2001?
This is a balls ass trade. I mean, seriously. All they get is a fucking 2nd round draft pick essentially. While I would prefer to receive picks, knowing the Eagles, the 3rd or 4th pick will be wasted, so essentially, we just traded one of our best players for a 2nd round draft pick. BALLS. Guess he had to go one way or another...

BUT TO THE FUCKING REDSKINS!?!? Why would you trade him to a soon to be contender in your own fucking division?!

Go Skins.

  

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60. "because it's a great fucking trade for the Eagles"
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and on the Eagles, McNabb has at most 2 really effective years left.

So Fatty Reid sees what Kolb has, and/or brings in a new QB in 2011.

If I'm the Eagles I make this trade in a heartbeat.

I've I'm the Redskins I never ever EVER making a trade so short sighted and stupid.

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48. "AHAHAHA CHRISTMAS IN FUCKIN APRIL FAGS!!! WHOOOO!"
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54. "SERIOUSLY ANDY REID SHOULD BE FIRED FOR THIS!!!"
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THIS IS HILARIOUSLY BAD!!! IN THE DIVISION???

IN???


THE???


DIVISION???


THIS BAMMA WAS SHIT ON HIS ENTIRE CAREER IN AN UNAPPRECIATIVE CITY WHILE ALL HE DID WAS WIN WIN WIN WIN WIN AND YALL TRADE HIM FOR A TWO IN THE SAME DIVISION???


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59. "we gonna see"
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y'all sleeping on Kolb

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81. "RE: SERIOUSLY ANDY REID SHOULD BE FIRED FOR THIS!!!"
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>ALL HE DID WAS WIN WIN WIN WIN WIN


honestly, what is it that people don't understand about not winning big games? or that winning 12 games a year consistently eventually doesn't mean shit if you never win the big one? do people not care about winning super bowls? are super bowls just not that important to McNabb defenders? WHAT AM I MISSING?! WHAT IS THE FUCKING POINT OF THE NFL SEASON?!

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91. "Here's a novel idea donk: HE WAS POORLY COACHED FROM DAY 1"
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124. "RE: Here's a novel idea donk: HE WAS POORLY COACHED FROM DAY 1"
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maybe...but that would be a better excuse if he never had the chances. this man's team has been in a lot of big games in his career. and lost almost all of them. i'm not saying he should take all the blame for those losses, but he's not exactly a good luck charm ya know?

your team might win more games with McNabb. They might win A LOT of games with McNabb. But if you make the NFC Championship, or even just the playoffs, and you see him come out to start the game with that goofy smile, playing air guitar and shit, are you REALLY gonna say to yourself, "we got this." REALLY?

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235. "RE: SERIOUSLY ANDY REID SHOULD BE FIRED FOR THIS!!!"
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>
>>ALL HE DID WAS WIN WIN WIN WIN WIN
>
>
>honestly, what is it that people don't understand about not
>winning big games? or that winning 12 games a year
>consistently eventually doesn't mean shit if you never win the
>big one? do people not care about winning super bowls? are
>super bowls just not that important to McNabb defenders? WHAT
>AM I MISSING?! WHAT IS THE FUCKING POINT OF THE NFL SEASON?!
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>


I can count on one hand the years that McNabb had a real team around him...And hasn't been more than three years....Eagles fans that complain about McNabb (and btw, I'm a Bears fan) don't deserve to ever have a winning squad......When your entire game plan was contingent on your QB to be superman for most of his run, that's not a recipe for success...

That's what you and other sour Eagles fans are missing...Most of the time it was McNabb getting you to the big games...BY himself...


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360. "McNabb hasn't been the difference maker in a playoff game since 2001"
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hasn't made a Pro Bowl legitimately since 2004.

Had a Top 5 defense for virtually every semi-successful year he was there plus stability along the line.

Let's stop dressing this shit up or making him out to be some kind of victim here.

His receivers were garbage his first three years as a starter, outside of that fact his support has generally been pretty damn good & there's not a single playoff game in which he put the team on his back to win since Soldier Field in his second season as full-time starter.

Those are actual facts. I'm not saying trading him in the division couldn't be perilous but let's try to keep it real a little bit.

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82. "esp since Reid's offensive philiosophy is a big part of the Eagles failu..."
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McNabb hasn't been perfect but put him in a Shanahan offense w/ a running game & he can be very effective. On the other hand, Andy Reid's offense can probably only be run by a few QBs. I'd say Peyton, Brees, pre-injury Brady yeah... Kolb?.. uh ok,.. sure..


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94. "But Reid always ran the ball more when McNabb wasn't playing"
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He did it with Feeley, Garcia, all of em. They will run more with Kolb.

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106. "I should fuckin hope so... lol"
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They should run more PERIOD..

>They will run more with Kolb.


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118. "Yeah I KNOW. That's always been one of their biggest problems"
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that and clock and timeout management.

Im so fuckin pissed right now. Enjoy stomping on us next year.

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153. "It's not even about running more"
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It's about being more effective when you do run. Look at the Saints and Colts. That's the way the game is moving.

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119. "Our generation's Sonny!"
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For real!

Always been a closet McNabb fan.

This is crazy!

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my thoughts,

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51. "Im f*ckin BESIDE MYSELF"
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i mean IN THE DIVISION????

w/Shanny at the helm

Snyder's pockets in an uncapped year?

i swear to G-d im tellin my fam to give up the season tix. we had em since 1959.

Im done having heart attacks and getting into bar altercations over this squadron while Lurie counts his chips and Reids sons crush and snort Oxys

I will always bleed green but I am tired of runnin good players into the ground with weak supporting casts.


i could stomach a trade, even in the conference...

but SKINS

Fuck. and. That.




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really classless??? I understand Jeff Lurie and crew aren't Christian, but c'mon. I'm sure McNabb was with his family trying to enjoy the holiday....Maybe, I'm just reaching here...It just rubs me the wrong way....


This will take me awhile to digest. I knew he was gonna be traded and I knew what to expect in compensation, but this is just really, really weird right now. McNabb as a Redskin??! Like, for real???

  

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181. "yup and the Cavs and Lakers played today too. O THE HORROR"
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lol @ the eagles not pulling the trigger on this cause it's easter
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61. "for the record, like the trade"
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we don't banish mcnabb to a terrible organization, we get a fantastic pick, and the kolb era begins. for the record, i'm on board with him and think he's going to be very good.

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69. "this ain't spot relief brah.... this is ALL 16 games.."
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& likely for the next 3-4 years. If Kolb works out & the Eagles can contend for the division, hats off to Andy & you guys can clown the shit outta us. Until then, he's gotta prove it & I'm CLOWNIN!


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72. "Skins aren't a terrible organization?"
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Jack Kent Cooke is dead, you realize.

  

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76. "it's a no-brainer for the Eagles."
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Two extremely valuable picks for a QB who's effectiveness could drop off a cliff any day now.

Even if Kolb doesn't work out, then you move on to the next project.

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99. "No brainer as in the Eagles lacked a brain when they ok'd it"
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103. "Or a QB who under a reasonable offensive system w/ a running game"
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could be effective for the next 5 years. Have you forgot who your head coach is?

McNabb still had a QB rating north on 92 last year.
McNabb still threw for over 3500 yards last year.
McNabb still threw 22 TDs to 10 INTs last year.
McNabb still lead his team to the playoffs last year.

Until the Eagles ran into the Cowboys, they were the hottest team in the NFC down the stretch. Dude, you are grossly overestimating McNabb's decline while ignoring the role Andy Reid's pass happy offensive philosophy created problems for the Eagles.


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129. "McNabb is still good"
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but he's on the downside, injury prone, and could go downhill fast.

Eagles got great value for McNabb while they still could.

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137. "but he could stay healthy & lead your team for the next 5 years"
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That's a big enuff window for the Skins to make a run @ it...
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163. "lots of things could happen"
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here's the bottom line: when you're rebuilding, you hoard draft picks. You don't trade them away for 33 year old players.

Or for Jason Taylor.

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259. "^^stuck on repeat"
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109. "I don't get why people act like he's washed up. He's not."
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He's finally gonna play in decent offense. I fully expect him to be better this year than he was last year. Shanahan has been pretty good with QB's.

Better than Reid, for sure.

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120. "Exactly... I checked his #s... last year was the 3rd highest QB rating"
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of his career.. He's far from washed up... lol
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367. "what the fuck are you talking about here:"
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>He's finally gonna play in decent offense.

Please explain to me how this Redskin offense is an upgrade for McNabb.

The more I think about it I'm almost glad this happened so people will be forced to find a new plea to cop about this guy (not to mention stop crying about how unappreciated he is).

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504. "I'm referring to the scheme"
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The system. Not the talent. He's gonna be in an offense that runs the ball and doesn't suffer from mind-numbingly stupid play calling, etc.

Shanahan's West Coast >>>>> Andy Reid's.

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516. "you need players to scheme, Shanny's West Coast has done a lot"
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less since Elway retired & he no longer had a back putting up pantheon-level numbers.

Reid's 2000-2010 resume>>>>>>>>>>>Shanahan's, despite me agreeing that I'd like to be more run-centric offensively coupled with Reid's occasional game management brain cramps.

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87. "You cant be serious. He went to a DIVISION RIVAL. "
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This will surely bite us in the ass. You cant tell me they couldnt have gotten a similar deal from someone else. No way. ANYWHERE but the NFC East. This is TERRIBLE. You gotta let this sink in some more. This is not a good move.

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65. "GOD DAMN THE COWBOYS GOT THE EAGLES SO SHOOK"
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they went out & fucked up the franchise for the foreseeable future..

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66. "WHAT THE BLEEP!!!!!"
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I'm in the house watching Meet Joe Black and my phones is ringing off the hook. I'm looking calls off and when I finally call back I hear these bammas done got 5. Again I say WHAT THE F*CK!

I'm in shock right now.

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67. "This is possibly the worst move of the Snyder Era"
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Worse than signing Jeff George to a free agent contract (all you lose is money, not picks)

worse than a third rounder for TJ Duckett, worse than a 2nd rounder for Jason Taylor

Worse than hiring Steve Spurrier, worse than giving Jim Zorn a year at the helm

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80. "You would shit on this move"
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Ok

A) he's better than Campbell. No questions asked. I like Jason, great guy but cmon.

B) all we gave up is a 2, for a HOFer with tons left.

C) if we were already taking a quarterback, which was out of yours and mines control anyway and would have still cost us a pick, is this not WAY better than taking Clausen, or even worse sabotaging our future entirely for Bradford?

Dawg, now we're DEFINITELY taking a tackle. And we'll trade JC and get more picks.

To say this is worse than hiring Zorn is unadulterated raging hate.

  

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115. "I think Smuts needs to go look @ McNabbs #s last year along with"
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the Eagles record..

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141. "I think you need to look at our offensive line"
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McNabb on the Eagles: effective

McNabb on the Redskins: injury waiting to happen.

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149. "part of that was Campbell's ineffectiveness & inexperience"
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and I definitely think the O-line will be addressed with Shanahan in town.


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161. "No, Levi Jones, Dockery, Rabach, Big Mike Williams and Heyer SUCK"
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JC was part of the reason our offense sucked. He was not the reason those five men made up one of the worst lines in the league.

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151. "I think you're overrating the Eagles O-line a bit"
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Maybe not as bad as Washington's, but it wasn't that good.

They gave up six sacks to the fucking Raiders.

It won't be a huge dropoff, if anything.

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117. "When you're rebuilding you don't trade picks for veterans."
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In fact, smart teams do the exact fucking opposite.

PERIOD.

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134. "man you take McNabb NOW "
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and then a year or two down the road you take a QB.

plus, now they'll probably draft back, like you wanted.

  

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144. "someone needs to remind Smuts the Skins have had 1 double-digit"
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win season in the past decade..
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166. "that is exactly my point."
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EXACTLY.

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145. "we're rebuilding. we should be hoarding picks."
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not giving up picks for 33 year old players with injury history.

adding McNabb to a shitty offensive roster with a bunch of holes basically gets us nowhere.

Great, we'll win 6 games instead of 4 next year, and we'll be no closer to a roster overhaul.

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441. "Another high draft pick for an old guy"
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>B) all we gave up is a 2, for a HOFer with tons left.

It is funny because the same people were saying this same thing 2 years ago when they traded for Jason Taylor. How did that work out again?

I think the problem Smuts, myself and other Skins fans have is this team isn't a qb away from contending. They have holes throughout the team but once again, they put their roster together like they are playing Madden 10. You know guys in the NFL fall off a lot faster in real life than they do in a video game.

Can someone help me out with this? Why not do anything in free agency if you are going to pursue McNabb? Do Shanahan & co think they were a Artis Hicks, Larry Johnson, Willie Parker and Donovan McNabb away from contending?

Btw, I love how Skins fans who were claiming McNabb was a shitty qb a few months ago are now praising this move.

  

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270. "you are a moron, the chiefs gave up a higher pick for WHITE CASSEL"
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you have no o-line, now you can go o-line round 1 this year and have your quarterback, an extremely talented qb who is going to have a chip on his shoulder the size of Snyders bank account, be all set!

you'd really rather draft Jimmy Clausen? this post will be upped when the Skins win games

  

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443. "how about you up it when we win PLAYOFF GAMES"
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>this post will be upped when the Skins win games

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448. "The o-line isn't about to be all set by drafting one rookie tackle"
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and bringing in an 11 year vet that couldn't start for his last team.

I hope it's better, but to say we're set isn't realistic.

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71. "I bleed green, but I'm sorry....I'm not rooting against the 'Skins"
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I won't be rooting FOR them, but I will be rooting for McNabb. Not even just off the principal of him being traded and me being somewhat sad to see him go....But simply because they traded this nigga on Easter evening. Come on!!! I'm not even religious and I STILL think that's fucked up. You couldn't wait 'till 12:00 a.m.

  

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74. "And as a side note, if you thought OKS' NFC East shit talking was bad be..."
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I can only imagine how shit's gonna be this season....God forbid McNabb somehow takes the 'Skins to the playoffs, while the Eagles win 6 games. I'll be MIA, lol.

  

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77. "WORST FUCKING TRADE IN EAGLES HISTORY"
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A fucking division rival!?!?!?!


Are you FUCKING SERIOUS??????????????????????

We about to be the fucking laughingstock of the fuckin league.

They gonna whoop our ass twice this year. We might not win a damn game in our division.

Unbelievable.


Im blown away at the stupidity of our front office.


I hope these fucktards are happy now. They won't be for long, this gonna blow up in everybody's stupid fucking face.



Fuck Andy Reid Fuck Howie Roseman Fuck all those dipshits


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78. "I'm just mad that we couldnt get a vet to go along w/the picks"
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341. "so a non-descript "vet""
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wouldve evened this out? lmao suckers

  

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84. "and I thought the Chargers were the dumbest team in the NFL"
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lolololololololollolololollooololololololololololololololololololololololollolololololololololololololololololololololololololooloolololololololololololololololololol...dumbasses

  

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86. "Came in to look at the mayhem "
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88. "Kolb is gonna make haters mad."
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That's all I'm saying.

If you want in on Kolb stock this is your last chance.

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95. "^^teaching em. we gonna be rich, cville"
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104. "Make the Donovan haters mad, you mean. "
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Cuz this is gonna blow up in their faces.

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371. "you need to dial down the Syracuse bullshit a bit"
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Donovan wasn't done wrong here, dude was the starting quarterback in town for 11 years in the same offense while nutting up in big games.

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506. "Man, I really hope Kolb is the truth"
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I want nothing more than for him to lead this team to a championship.

What's got me so pissed is the fact that McNabb was traded to a team we gotta see twice a year. I HATE that he's a R*dskin. HATE IT. I think Philly was dumb for sending him there.

When I say it's gonna blow up in people's faces I'm talking about the two games against Washington and the notion that Donovan's washed up.

Not once have I ever said that the organization has mistreated him. I think they fucked him with receiver help and Reid should have adjusted his offense around him, but that's basically a sentiment shared by everyone.

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111. "The real question: How long before people turn on Kolb?"
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All QBs starting for the first time go through that bad stretch.

Is this season just to see what he has?

What if Vick beats him out for the job?

  

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131. "Eagles went 11-5 with a playoff appearance last year...."
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140. "Depends on whether or not Vick's still around"
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But either way I think he's good for awhile, unless he's the second coming of Bobby Hoying, which he won't be.

Philly fans have been waiting a long time to get D out of here, Kolb will have quite a bit of slack, I imagine. Especially with how bad the defense will be, which will allow for lots of pleas to be copped.

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133. "I have a lot of confidence in Kolb....It's just a shame that McNabb"
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was never given the opportunity to work with such a talented offense (outside of 2 seasons)that Kolb will have full control of for years to come.

I actually think Kolb is a better fit (not better player) for our offense too. He's a bit more accurate in his short to intermediate throws. I'm a bit worried about his ability to stretch the field with his arm tho. Also, I still don't think he's shown enough poise to handle intense pressure yet. But, time will tell....

As much as it sickens me to see McNabb go, I'm kind of excited/intrigued to see where this team is headed. The team's future is completely dependant on this year's draft. We HAVE to draft at least 3 impact players on defense. Otherwise, we're not going anywhere for awhile.

  

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135. "as long as Andy Reid is your coach..."
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...you'll remain afraid of the run game and still falter when it matters.

  

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187. "$100 the Eagles won't get to 11 wins..."
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191. "diamond in the rough"
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206. "Michael Vick will be the people's choice before week 1..."
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214. "He's a black QB.. the people ain't calling for him."
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I'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying how it is.

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icecold21
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215. "Basically. They finally got a white guy after 11 yrs of black"
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they ain't gonna be callin for Vick.

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428. "Im on board with Mike Vick over Corn Cobb"
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and I like my qbs with Black skin and Green shirts.

black shoes too (Buddy Ryan era what!)

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265. "hold on fam! Kolb is a houston kid. we BEEN in on that IPO"
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sorry, charlie


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267. "Yeah, you're good."
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347. "THE DOC WIPES HIS ASS WITH SAID STOCK!"
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OKPhilly is going to get a dose of good ol' Chicago-type hate.

  

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96. "So wait: who's dumber? Eagles or Skins?"
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Seems to be dissenting opinions.

  

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97. "Reid LIVE on ESPN NOW"
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105. "Peep this irony:"
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This fatass can't get four words out without taking a deep breath, and the wall behind him says "Asthma" everywhere ahahahahahahaha I'm just giggling so bad

  

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112. "LOL"
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That's how he always talks though.

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100. "Just wanted to see if OK Sports broke in half or not..."
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101. "man i was hoping for the raiders. cmon Vick"
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please let Vick start

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102. "im not mad at this"
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but i haven't seen what the skins are giving up

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107. "so, who's Philly looking to draft with this pick?"
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121. "Another bust on the D-line probably."
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122. "hopefully packaging some picks to move up and get Eric Berry"
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that would be a dream of mine....I really, really want Eric Berry. I would settle for Earl Thomas tho.

  

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127. "http://www.lauppert.ws/screen1/win16/pipedream-lucasarts.png"
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130. "I'd rather stand pat and try to hit CB, OL, and S"
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With those picks.

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108. "MoveOn.org"
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Hopefully they didnt miss out on a first rounder trying to accommodated that clown.

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stop at the light mayne,
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113. "*sigh*"
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Philadelphia Eagles upgrading division rivals since 2007.

I don't like the trade. Not at all. Not to the redskins. Not in the division. I know he had to be traded, but do we have to see him twice a year? Now we have the the fourth worst QB in the division.

Not mad at the compensation either. More than I thought we would get actually.

Skins fans , enjoy. There isn't a better player in this draft at that pick.

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123. "THIS TRADE IS AN INSULT "
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this is insulting to the fanbase and to McNabb. Before Mcnabb came to the eagles they were horrid, here are a list of names

Bobby Hoying
Ty Detmer
Rodney Peete

then you draft McNabb and he makes Lurie a billionare and makes Andy Reid a hall of fame coach, now you trade him to a divisional rival. i understand that you needed to trade him. Trading hism to a divisional rivals tells the man that "You AINT SHIT (c) Redman...and that is unfair to a man that gave his pride and body to a city....

its insulting to the fanbase, cuz you asking the majority of Eagles fans, who understand the value McNabb to the Eagles, and appericate the time he spent in philly, to now choose a side, either McNabb w/ the redskins or the Birds, and that is unfair.
I AM INSULTED!!

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125. "team > 1 man. simple decision"
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>
>its insulting to the fanbase, cuz you asking the majority of
>Eagles fans, who understand the value McNabb to the Eagles,
>and appericate the time he spent in philly, to now choose a
>side, either McNabb w/ the redskins or the Birds, and that is
>unfair.
>I AM INSULTED!!

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139. "if its about team why make a team in your division better?"
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Vita em, no continous non
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143. "are they making them better?"
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146. "ummm yea...."
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BrooklynWHAT
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150. "i think the eagles cut ties at the right time"
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and will be better for it 2 or 3 years down the line.

mcnabb wasnt winning shit so why hold on to him until he's worthless. rebuild now and ship him to one of the most inept organizations in the league. they've crippled the redskins for at least the next 5 years. all in all i think the trade was a big W for the Eagles. the fans just need to get the fuck over it.

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152. "so right now...did the redskins get better?"
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i dont care about anything else you just typed

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155. "symantically, yes."
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but not enough for it to really be significant. and they will ultimately be worse off for it. eagles fans need not worry about the Redskins

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159. "thank you...save the keystrokes grasshopper"
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they directly made a rival better
they probably could have gotten similar picks from a afc team
i agree...mcnabb needed to go if thats the direction they wanted to take
but to the redskins?

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343. "lol@ semantically"
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not to mention practically as well

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154. "you can't really get hung up on names and history in some cases"
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a) that's the logic that made the bears trade too much for cutler, who hadn't done anything yet.

b) it was time for the mcnabb in philly era to end, anyone could have seen that. i don't think that they should have traded within the division, but whatever.

  

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249. "What if that was the only team McNabb would deal with??"
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He may have forced their hand.

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382. "Rodney Peete was a quality QB during his brief stay in Philly"
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and the rest of what you said was some crying bullshit.

LOL @ forcing fans to 'make a decision' in regards to rooting for the Eagles or the Redskins.

If that choice even enters your mind as a result of this trade, you're a complete douchebag.

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491. "ESPN is saying Reid did it to *HELP* McNabb:"
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Sal Paolantonio said the Raiders and Bills were leading and McNabb
didn't wanna go there. So, when Shannahan contacted Philly to ask
about McNabb, Reid jumped on it

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543. "you make mcnabb sound like a victim and he's not"
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this isn't michael jordan who built the bulls and the nba all while being severely underpaid for the first ten years of his career. mcnabb was compensated justly and stuck by from day one by the eagles org. they coddled him, they backed him, they paid him, they did everything he asked over the years basically.

he's outlived that type of treatment now and it would better for him to be with a veteran team now. washington is not an ideal fit and i agree that it says the eagles think he doesn't have a lot left in the tank but they are also assuming that big risk.

dawkins? that was insulting. this is just business.

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126. "This team will never be a winner under this current leadership"
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They happy being just good enough to sell out every game and contend for playoff spots. They don't want to spend money they spend just enough to be good and we will be that way until the day Jeff Lurie, Joe Banner and Andy Reid either quit, get fired, or die.

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128. "Nice move for the Eagles"
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I'm a big fan of DNabb but I don't get it for Washington. It's not like they are a QB away from competing and the second round pick should be better for the long term.

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147. "Yup. It's so fucking obvious."
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>I'm a big fan of DNabb but I don't get it for Washington.
>It's not like they are a QB away from competing and the second
>round pick should be better for the long term.

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LegacyNS
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157. "Not if the Eagles can no longer contend it's not.. they won 11 games"
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You don't trade your franchise QB unless you can at the very least be as competitive without him. I mean, who had the Eagles in the NFC championship games last year? You just never know.

If the Eagles can contend for a the NFC East & win at least 10 games then I would agree. If they don't....



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136. "I hope this ends up being like Elway at the end of his career."
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I don't know. I'm kinda with smuts. You don't trade valuable picks when you're seriously trying to rebuild.

I REALLY REALLY REALLY hope this works, but when you got a QB that age you don't know when his skills will start to erode or if he'll have a bad injury.

I don't think he's done. God, I hope this works.

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142. "i think the eagles organization really has contempt for its fans."
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like 'ok, y'all shitted on our qb all this time...
now you'll get to appreciate what he can do for another team twice a year'.

big up to andy reid for lookin out for mcnabb too.
the way he rode for vick,
this shit...
that's a real nigga right there.

  

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148. "^^^what he said^^^"
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its like Lurie Banner and Reid get off on it.

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156. "CHAD DUKES WON!"
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Lavar's happy right now. What's JC's trade value?

No empathy for white misery (c) BDot

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158. "So who else thinks the Eagles finish last in the East this year?"
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164. "Second place with a bullet."
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173. "I wish, but I really don't see it."
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Philly is going backwards, not forwards right now.

They're dismantling the team, I don't see how they can possibly be a good or better this season.

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177. "I'm usually negative as hell"
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But I don't see these losses as being negative as everyone else.

The ones that really bother me are Sheldon Brown and Will Witherspoon, but I could even understand the Sheldon because he got his money. Look at the guys they released or traded:

Darren Howard was brought in to play DE but was limited to being a pass rushing DT on passing downs.

Brian Westbrook who missed all of last offseason and most of the season with a combination of knee, ankle, and head injuries.

Kevin Curtis a one year wonder at WR who was hurt most of last season.

Shawn Andrews former All-Pro guard who's missed two seasons with depression, and back injuries.

Chris Gocong strong side linebacker who never fit in with what the Eagles wanted him to do.

Chris Clemons a free agency bust who hardly played last year and when he did he wasn't noticed.

Donovan McNabb can still play but he was on the last year of his deal and the Eagles were in a situation where they had to move a QB. They backed Kolb.

Sheldon Brown is coming off of his best season but he's 31 and they refuse to lock players up long term when they reach that age.

Will Witherspoon is a solid starting WIL but they cut him to put Akeem Jordan back in the starting spot. I can't even defend this logic.

They cut three guys who could/should be starters on the team next year. I don't see that as a huge step back. There's going to be growing pains with Kolb at QB, but I didn't see them contending for a championship next year regardless.

The team has holes but I think they're basically the same holes that were exploited Vs the Cowboys in the last two weeks of the season.

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193. "Still don't see how that puts them in second"
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And why you aren't mad that he went to the REDSKINS I just don't understand.

They definitely made some good cuts but they definitely just got a lot worse. Lets not act like Kolb is gonna be an adequate replacement for McNabb off the bat. And with the D in shambles right now I can't see any way they finish 2nd.

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197. "I just don't see it with the Giants and Redskins."
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Kolb will have an up and down season the same way McNabb had an up and down season last year. He'll probably throw for a similar amount of yards (on more attempts), more interceptions, less passing plays of 40+ yards, and less wins.

They'll also have less three and outs, and less sacks.

The defense will be helped a lot simply by the return of Stewart Bradley. Even if he's 80% of what he was it's an improvement over what was in the middle last year. There are holes but today they have more to work with in acquiring players to fill those holes (whether it's trading those picks for a player, or simply drafting).

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208. "I wish I could be as optomistic as you, but I can't."
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I just don't see it with the Eagles.

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220. "McNabb had a good season last year eagles could have easily"
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went 12-4 13-3 if they had a RUNNING GAME.

Eagles will be lucky to go 7-9.

He missed two games and still had 3200 yds 20 tds.

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224. "Where are the extra wins coming from to get to 12-4 or 13-3?"
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Also I never said McNabb didn't have a good season but it was up and down.

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231. "The lost to the Raiders where andy threw the ball 50 times"
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to a team that couldn't stop the run and where Akers missed two Fgs.

They lost 15-12

The first game against Dallas where Eagles couldn't get a first down on 3 and 1 and lost on a sheldon brown bite 20-14.

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238. "They lost 13-9 to the Raiders"
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And were completely dominated on both lines of scrimmage. They threw 50 times because they couldn't run effectively and McNabb had his worst game since Week 16 the year prior Vs the Redskins.

And they would've beat the Cowboys in the first game if they ran more? The example you used is a play they were stopped short when they did run? Yeah, that doesn't make any sense.

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246. "Which makes my point even more clear"
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>And were completely dominated on both lines of scrimmage.
>They threw 50 times because they couldn't run effectively and
>McNabb had his worst game since Week 16 the year prior Vs the
>Redskins.
>
Akers missed two kicks and who's fault is it the Eagles couldn't muster a semblance of a running game against one of the WORST RUN DEFENSES IN THE LEAGUE? Also McNabb had a terrible game because The OLINE was horrible and Andy was Predictable. Richard Seymour looked great.

>And they would've beat the Cowboys in the first game if they
>ran more? The example you used is a play they were stopped
>short when they did run? Yeah, that doesn't make any sense.

Brainiac they couldn't get a 3 and 1 they had the same issue two years ago and still haven't solved it. I basically proved how easy they could have been 13-3.

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269. "No. You said they'd win more games if they ran more."
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And then listed games where it wouldn't have made a difference.

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401. "No I said they would have won more games if they had a running game"
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175. "*raises hand* "
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this trade doesn't help, but the defense is shit(-tier than it was last year).

and for as much as I hate the Smurfs and Cowboys, and begrudge the Skins...

when they have free run down the football field, it can and will get ugly.

trading Sheldon was the dagger. they have NO CBs besides A$$-ante who is only good for jumping the route and catching funballs, NO safeties, besides Nacho (LOL), no one on the D-Line besides Trent Cole, the O-Line is turning to shit... I mean, who really thinks the Eagles are going to place higher than 4th with all that youth, Andy Reid at coach, and NO FUCKIN' D?!!!

fuck if the Skins mortgaged their future for who knows what again.
but I don't see shit coming out of this team in 2010-11.

fuck Andy Reid, Joe Banner, and Jeff Lurie.
Especially Joe Banner. Bean counting faggot.

  

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184. "assuming the smurfs aren't more ass than normal I do..."
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196. "they'll be first if they start Vick"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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160. "sucks kornheiser is on vacation next week"
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162. "My brother just shit his pants"
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He's a lifelong Redskins fan and a McNabb dickrider. I'm sure he locked himself in the basement at my parents house and is masturbating as we speak.

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165. "Can you buy alcohol in PA on Sundays??"
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167. "I foresee Vick becoming the starter at some point."
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202. "that's what i'm hopin for. imagine vick with them weapons."
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dude was damn near unstoppable in the goal line package.

  

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230. ""imagine vick with them weapons.""
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I mean that wouldn't surprise me, clearly his judgment has been lacking at times. Some folks never learn you know?

  

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169. "Kolb was booed at draft too!"
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http://www.the700level.com/2007/04/kevin_kolb_sele.html

Only difference is he was somewhere hunting hogs or some shit.

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170. "and now the Eagles have ensured 4th place in the NFC East."
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good luck, DC.

  

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171. "Its goin down in Washington"
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2 Shanny's on offense with 2 decent QB's, with 3 decent HB's and move help on the O-line on the way.

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176. "ironically i just got home from sending the day surrounded by 10+"
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redskins fans down in DC
driving home somewhere in between rockville MD and DE i got sick of listening to the clipse and turned it to WIP to hear this shit.......
i'm on the toilet now
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178. "I can't wait to play Madden."
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No empathy for white misery (c) BDot

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180. "Vick > McNabb"
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186. "@ dog fighting"
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192. "not @ smugglin weed on an aeroplane"
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182. "my early thought: Bad move for both teams. "
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McNabb is more valuable in Philly with those receivers and his established footing with the squad

that pick is more valuable to the Redskins who have more needs than a QB, have the ability to draft the QB of the future this month, and already have an okay QB for the meantime.


edit: maybe worse move for Skins than Eagles. i don't know what they have in Kolb, so maybe this works out for them. poor McNabb though...finally got a complete compliment of receivers and its like "psyche! this shit is for Kolb, not you! haha"

  

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183. "right now i think it's good for both teams."
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the eagles wanted to start the next chapter and they got good value.

the redskins upgrade and have successfully inoculated themselves against wasting #4 overall on a QB.

  

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185. "damn when Iggles fans were sh'tting on McNabb"
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I was like... would you trade him to us??? And boy looka here... Donovan! This is great, just great. Redskins fans. We have a QB. Breathe easy. Lovin' it

  

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189. "reading thru these replies i realize skins fans are some fucking IDIOTS"
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people are in here rejoicing like they just got a 25 yr old Tom Brady
lol
did yall not see the last two games against the cowboys in which mcfagg was complete ASS?
didn't the sorry ass skins SWEEP the eagles(a superior team) the year before last because mcfagg kept throwing to receivers feet?
legacy ass in here talking about BUT THE EAGLES WON 11 GAMES LAST YR!!!!
guess how many they won against playoff teams........ZERO

look mcfagg was the best QB in eagles history
but dude is 34
injury prone AS SHIT
inaccurate and gun shy, he always makes the safe throw which is a blessing and a curse
low INTs but minimal amount of big plays and basically ZERO potential for kurt warner/drew brees type comebacks
o anddddddddddddddd he's gonna want a HUGE contract
bwhwhahahahahahah
i cant' wait until the skins trade bum ass jason campbell and mcfagg takes his annual 3 week mid season vacation and yall are left with fitzgerald or somebody QB'ing the team
the redskins just outdumbed the raiders lol
a high 2nd rounder when there was almost no interest?
why not just take Vick for all that?
could have gave a 4th rounder
got a YOUNGER, less injury prone CHEAPER player
smh
just fucking dumb
and lol @ ppl hating on kolb
reid develops QB dumbasses
he developed farve and Mcfagg, 1 HOF LOCK and 1 possible HOFer
if he thinks kolb is good enough to replace mcfagg I BELIEVE HIM
this same coach tailored his game in order for old ass jeff garcia to lead us to them offs
kolb has no deep ball but he is quick and precise wit his throws
wit jackson and maclin catching that shit and getting YAC this west coast offense is about to explode imo
be MAD
and even IF kolb does suck we have a former all pro on the bench anyway
this is a total win for the eagles imo
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201. "ain't nobody readin that long ass tissue, bitch. stop cryin."
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203. "Good Lord"
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>people are in here rejoicing like they just got a 25 yr old
>Tom Brady
>lol

Uh, nobody's acting like that. Washington's excited that they have a QB that played in the Pro Bowl last year and 6 times in total. When's the last time they had that? Yeah, they can be excited. They should be. They're instantly better than Philly now.

25 yr old Brady FOH Terrible comparison lol.

>did yall not see the last two games against the cowboys in
>which mcfagg was complete ASS?

The whole team played like ass. And two games is not an accurate representation of how he played last year or how he's capable of playing. FOH

>didn't the sorry ass skins SWEEP the eagles(a superior team)
>the year before last because mcfagg kept throwing to receivers
>feet?
>legacy ass in here talking about BUT THE EAGLES WON 11 GAMES
>LAST YR!!!!
>guess how many they won against playoff teams........ZERO

Whatever.


>look mcfagg was the best QB in eagles history
>but dude is 34
>injury prone AS SHIT
>inaccurate and gun shy, he always makes the safe throw which
>is a blessing and a curse
>low INTs but minimal amount of big plays and basically ZERO
>potential for kurt warner/drew brees type comebacks
>o anddddddddddddddd he's gonna want a HUGE contract
>bwhwhahahahahahah

Minimal amount of big plays???? Did you watch any games last year? At all???

The Eagles LIVED off of the big play. That was their WHOLE offense. Desean set a fucking record for big plays. McNabb has made big plays his whole damn career in Philly because they never ran an offense that made any damn sense. Reid always relied on McNabb to bail the team out from his bad play calling. FOH

And McNabb played 16 games the year before last and 14 games in the last 3. With the opportunity to actually hand the ball off more than 5 times a game he's gonna take a lot less hits.



>i cant' wait until the skins trade bum ass jason campbell and
>mcfagg takes his annual 3 week mid season vacation and yall
>are left with fitzgerald or somebody QB'ing the team
>the redskins just outdumbed the raiders lol
>a high 2nd rounder when there was almost no interest?
>why not just take Vick for all that?
>could have gave a 4th rounder
>got a YOUNGER, less injury prone CHEAPER player
>smh
>just fucking dumb


I can't wait til the fucking haters eat shit when McNabb balls out under Shanahan. People are going to be MAD. The Eagles played themselves by sending him to Wash. Philly was the dumbest team in this deal. I'm gonna be pissed when we get our asses kicked but happy that our front office is gonna look like the douchebags they are. It will bring me a small amount of satisfaction.


>and lol @ ppl hating on kolb
>reid develops QB dumbasses
>he developed farve and Mcfagg, 1 HOF LOCK and 1 possible
>HOFer
>if he thinks kolb is good enough to replace mcfagg I BELIEVE
>HIM
>this same coach tailored his game in order for old ass jeff
>garcia to lead us to them offs
>kolb has no deep ball but he is quick and precise wit his
>throws
>wit jackson and maclin catching that shit and getting YAC this
>west coast offense is about to explode imo
>be MAD
>and even IF kolb does suck we have a former all pro on the
>bench anyway
>this is a total win for the eagles imo
>they got the skins to bid against themselves, lol


Andy Reid is a fucking moron. His play calling, clock management and overall dumbassery has fucked this team time and again. LOL @ you praising Reid to diss McNabb. Instead of tailoring his offense to his franchise QB he put McNabb in a system that never played to his strengths and gave him the sorriest, shittiest fuckin joke of a receiving corps in NFL history to work with. And then refused to run the ball. But go ahead and keep calling him a genius. The same coach that as you said yourself changed his offense and ran the ball for Garcia but was too dumb enough to run the same effective system with a better QB in McNabb.

On the other hand, Shanahan took a HOF-caliber QB and led him to two Super Bowls after a career of close calls and failures.

And I don't care how explosive the offense could be because they're never gonna see the damn field.

SMH @ you getting excited about the Eagles just as soon as they begin their descent to the NFC East basement. FOH.

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219. "RE: Good Lord"
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>Uh, nobody's acting like that. Washington's excited that they
>have a QB that played in the Pro Bowl last year and 6 times in
>total. When's the last time they had that? Yeah, they can be
>excited. They should be. They're instantly better than Philly
>now.
>
>25 yr old Brady FOH Terrible comparison lol.

mcfagg ain't been a true all pro in 5 yrs
lol @ niggas getting in as third alternates still getting that shit added to their all pro number
smh
the redskins are instantly better cause they have an injury prone QB the eagles didn't want anymore?
yea ok





>Minimal amount of big plays???? Did you watch any games last
>year? At all???
>
>The Eagles LIVED off of the big play. That was their WHOLE
>offense. Desean set a fucking record for big plays. McNabb has
>made big plays his whole damn career in Philly because they
>never ran an offense that made any damn sense. Reid always
>relied on McNabb to bail the team out from his bad play
>calling. FOH
>
>And McNabb played 16 games the year before last and 14 games
>in the last 3. With the opportunity to actually hand the ball
>off more than 5 times a game he's gonna take a lot less hits.
>
>

o my bad i should have qualified it as big plays in games that matter
i thought that was obvious tho
every body makes big plays against the redskins and panthers
sorry



>I can't wait til the fucking haters eat shit when McNabb balls
>out under Shanahan. People are going to be MAD. The Eagles
>played themselves by sending him to Wash. Philly was the
>dumbest team in this deal. I'm gonna be pissed when we get our
>asses kicked but happy that our front office is gonna look
>like the douchebags they are. It will bring me a small amount
>of satisfaction.
>

yea since shanahan has a history of success wit QB's
he'll run the shit out of the ball and mcfagg numbers will dip and eagles will still look right
o and who is he throwing to in washington?
chris cooley?
ok, if that wack ass o line gives him more then 3 seconds
remember one of mcfaggs main weaknesses is holding on to the ball too long (cause he only makes low risk throws)



>

>
>Andy Reid is a fucking moron. His play calling, clock
>management and overall dumbassery has fucked this team time
>and again. LOL @ you praising Reid to diss McNabb. Instead of
>tailoring his offense to his franchise QB he put McNabb in a
>system that never played to his strengths and gave him the
>sorriest, shittiest fuckin joke of a receiving corps in NFL
>history to work with. And then refused to run the ball. But go
>ahead and keep calling him a genius. The same coach that as
>you said yourself changed his offense and ran the ball for
>Garcia but was too dumb enough to run the same effective
>system with a better QB in McNabb.
>
>On the other hand, Shanahan took a HOF-caliber QB and led him
>to two Super Bowls after a career of close calls and
>failures.
>
>And I don't care how explosive the offense could be because
>they're never gonna see the damn field.
>
>SMH @ you getting excited about the Eagles just as soon as
>they begin their descent to the NFC East basement. FOH.


reid was a dumb ass WITH MCNABB. when he's presented with different QB's he tailored his game plan and was more balanced
iono if he can do that for 16 games, but i'll give him the benefit of the doubt
and who's winning % is higher in the 00s? reid or shanahan
lol @ u hyping up some Super bowls won in the fucking 90s
shanahan rode the coattails of an all world RB to those wins
it wasn't elway (theres a whole post about it, go check it out. thanks O_E )
fact of the matter is shanahan constipated looking ass got fucking FIRED recently after not making the playoffs MULTIPLE years in a row
so FOH acting like he's some type of coaching genius
he's basically a muhfucker who was in the right place at the right time , won two super bowls and rode that success out for another 10 mediocre years before finally being fired
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229. "for the simple fact that McNabb is 10x> than anyone we've had"
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in AT LEAST a decade, we're optimistic. Don't over think this now to accommodate your argument. The Eagles could have gotten more for him. They traded him inside the division because that's what HE wanted? The hell is that? There was heavy rumors about trading McNabb and a pick for Nnamdi dude. You do that deal if that's true. And they trade Donovan to the Skins for a second? I don't know. I think both parties honestly got what they needed but the Eagles could have gotten more somewhere else.

We could have used a pick on a development project at QB that may or may not turn out and sit and wait and pray. OR if we were going to use a pick anyway on a QB, we could just spend it on a proven player who is without question one of the top five of the last decade at his position. For the Eagles it's a win to an extant as well, it had gotten stale with him and they just weren't going to get it done with the 2000s squad anymore. Maybe this coming season is rocky, but they've got Kolb and a former star and now an extra pick. If that's what Reid was content taking for Donovan then that's on him. But I refuse to believe he couldn't have gotten more somewhere else and I still don't think it was wise to let him stay in the division with a chance to play against a city two times a year that shitted on him no matter how well he did.

  

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239. "dude the redskins got him cause mcnabb will be willing to re up LONG"
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TERM wit yall
i'm doubting the raiders offered their pick cause they KNEW mcnabb would have been 1 and done with them
think about that shit for a second
not only did yall give up a rebuilding pick....but yall bout to commit to an old injury prone dude who always comes up short prolly for another 5+ yrs
bwhahahahahaha
and i wouldn't be surprised if they gave him near max money
smh
look man yall gon be in rebuilding mode for a few yrs ANYWAY
might as well had given campbell a chance wit the new coach
campbell and mcnabbs numbers last yr weren't even that far off lol
i mean i kinda feel sorry for yall
like i said i was just in a house in PG county today wit redskins apparel ALL OVER THE HOUSE
i know some good ppl who damn near worship the skins and yall fucking suck and this move will ensure that yall continue to suck
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What he said ^^^^

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262. "y'all ain't winning 11 games this year.. cry about it.."
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yeah, u mad.

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190. "I'm on board"
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- I'm a Skins fan and JC's never been my dude.

- I wanna see what McNabb can do with a competent head coach who believes in running the ball.

- I wanna see Kolb dickriders / McNabb haters in Philly have to call for Vick when Kolb starts to stink it up by week 5.

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195. "Skins fans should be dancing, since this means..."
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...they're picking Okung with the 4th pick. Keep Campbell on as a great backup and have him learn some things from an HOFer. Then, in a couple years when McNabb is done and broken, you put Campbell or whatever replacement you've drafted and had learn under McNabb in under a young new O-line and Shanny's trademark RB platoon.

It's a good move for the Eagles too though. They wanted a change and get good picks out of it. Plus it's not like the Skins are winning the division next year anyhow.

Come to think of it, Cowboys and Giants fans probably love this trade too. It's both teams essentially saying "it's reboot time!"

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200. "you don't give away multiple picks for a QB mentor"
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that's idiotic.

you don't give away multiple picks in order to force yourself to do something (draft Okung) you should have been doing from the beginning.

that's like congratulating an alcoholic on going broke so that he doesn't buy more booze.

you're not exactly fixing the problem, are you?

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212. ""multiple picks""
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it's a 2nd rounder and next year's 4th (or possibly 3rd). It's not like we mortgaged the future here. McNabb is well worth a 2nd round pick in my book. I'm wondering... say this move actually—heaven forbid—works out for the Redskins. Will you admit you were wrong?

  

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221. "McNabb helps your goal, not mine."
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You're happy with an occasional 9-7 year where make the playoffs and lose in the 1st or 2nd round.

I want to spend a few years hoarding picks, drafting youth, and building a solid foundation for a *perennial* playoff team.

Trading picks for McNabb is not a rebuilding move, and we should be rebuilding.

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260. "It is a rebuilding move."
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It just keeps them from totally sucking balls as they rebuild.

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280. "I'm with Don on this one"
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People act like McNabb is a bum. Dude threw for 3500 yards last year and led a team to 11 wins. All that being said, he'll still have a top TE to throw to and a solid up and coming WR corp.

We get a proven Pro Bowl level player that is 33. People act like he's on his last legs. He has at minimum 3 solid seasons at his current level. Then he'll be 36, look at the quarterbacks that have been successful at that age. Hell, a fragil Joe Montana was traded at 36 to the Cheifs. Think about that.

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281. "McNabb's abilities are not my point at all"
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at all.

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302. "ok but what were you going to do in the draft that would"
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have improved your team more than acquiring McNabb? I understand you have holes but plugging those holes won't mean shit if you don't also have a QB to run that team. You're likely going to address OL w/ the first pick, you got a franchise QB w/ the 2nd pick, you still got a 3/4/5 rd picks to plug holes. You still have free agency to pick up a few players. (well, ok I know Synder but I'm just sayin.. lol )

You can always draft a QB in the near future to sit under McNabb for a year or so if you trade Campbell.

You act like this trade sets you back from being 13-3 next year - lol.
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307. "You can't take such a narrow/short-term view of roster moves"
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The draft is hard, but it's the only way to build a sustained core of quality players.

If you keep trading day-1 draft picks for Laverneous Coles, Santana Moss, 2 first rounders for 1 QB (Campbell), Jason Taylor, Donovan McNabb, this is how you end up with an offensive roster that needs a massive overhaul, yet you have no picks.

We don't have a 3rd, we used it on defense, like we've done with every high first round pick since 2000.

And planning on finding starters in the 4th round and later is a very risky way to do things.

If you want sustained success you have to hoard picks, especially rnds 1-3, miss out on most, then eventually find guys like Jon Jansen in the 2nd round who start for you for 10 years.

With McNabb we, at best, go 10-6 for one season, don't contend, and then we are right back to square one.

You want to make the playoffs once? You trade for McNabb. You want to make the playoffs in consecutive years? Draft. Draft. Draft.

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314. "but you could easily have a 3-5 year window with McNabb"
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You could be competitive in those years (whose to say in year 2 or 3 you don't have a REAL shot @ making a run) while also plugging other holes via the draft & grooming his replacement. The Packers ended up turning over the keys to Rodgers w/ a fairly solid team. They pulled a few holes & now they're right back in the mix.

I guess my point is if Snyder doesn't do this right it doesn't mean it CAN'T be done right.. You can be certainly be competitive now & still have a future. I'm not sure that the move to get McNabb necessarily prohibits you from doing both.




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328. "You can't have it both ways"
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>while also plugging other holes via the draft

You can't say this is a plan, when in reality Snyder trades away valuable early picks year after year.

Coles, Taylor, 2 picks for Campbell, 2 picks for Rocky MacIntosh, 2 picks for Cooley, McNabb, it's been happening for 10 years.

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349. "there's a difference btwn saying McNabb is a good enuff QB"
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with a large enuff window to make the Redskins contenders vs saying that Snyder is incapable of making the necessary moves to make this come about. Snyder might not be smart enuff to make it happen but it doesn't mean the opportunity w/ McNabb doesn't exist. I can't change Snyder being a dumbass no more than I can change Jerry being a dumbass. lol


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358. "I don't really follow you."
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But my point is this: it's a pattern with Snyder: trade picks for veterans.

It's been this way for a decade. And it's gotten them nowhere.

We have to rebuild. This isn't rebuilding.

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310. "dude, Dan Snyder could trade a 5th rounder for Adrian Peterson"
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homey'd been in here in tears, like... THIS IS NOT HOW YOU BUILD A REPUTABLE FRANCHISE IN THIS LEAGUE! WE NEED OFFENSIVE LINEMEN! HOW ARE WE GOING TO TRADE A COVETED FIFTH ROUND PICK FOR THIS FUMBLE-PRONE RB???

  

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320. "you never actually engage in discussion"
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you make passing cheap shots and call names.

I hate most of Snyder's moves, and I thoroughly explain why.

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325. "i'm a fan, not Jason La Canfora"
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are you telling me that the addition of Willie Parker (part of Shanahan's stockpiling RB steez) and the acquisition of McNabb doesn't provide you ONE SINGLE OUNCE of excitement at the prospects of this coming NFL season? NOT AT ALL? All you can think of is criticism and pessimism? You don't think it'll even add a BIT of fun with the Iggles-Skins rivalry? No? Really? The ONLY thoughts in your mind are 100% negative?

If that's the case... really. Move on to another team.

  

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332. "I think it's a bad move, like most of our moves."
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I think Snyder is an inept owner, I don't think our 24th best record since 1999 is by chance, and I'm not going to get excited when we make yet another move that perpetuates our mediocrity.

That doesn't mean I'm not going to spend $300 on Directv to watch every game every year with my boys, and love football and beer and Sundays in the fall. So spare me that 'find another team' b.s.

If you want to read happy go lucky skins posts, go read the team message boards. Lots of kool aid over there.

Meanwhile, I will give my thoughts on Snyder's moves, most of which indeed turn out to be bad.

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338. "if you're so sure we're winning 6 games"
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I'll be you $200 we win more than 6 games. Deal?

  

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340. "I'm sure McNabb won't take us to back to back playoffs"
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I'll bet you $200 on that.

C'mon, you love 9-7 seasons so much.

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346. "you've said multiple times here that we're going from 4 to 6 wins"
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348. "You win! My convictions are false!"
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When we miss the playoffs this year, I'm going to up this post, and you can respond, "I was wrong, McNabb didn't make any significant difference."

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354. "O RLY?"
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http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=1457482&mesg_id=1457482&page=#1458112

>When we miss the playoffs this year, I'm going to up this
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Why just *this* year when McNabb could be there for 3-5 years?
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356. "Oh I'll up it yearly while McNabb never makes us a contender"
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As I said, McNabb will help us go 9-7 occasionally and win a playoff game every three years or so.

In other words, never being a contender.

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359. "Ok but will that be because of McNabb or Snyder not putting "
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a team around him? Dude was just in the NFC title game last year. And you have already said that Snyder doesn't know WTF he's doing building a team so it highly unlikely that he will get it right via the draft, trades or free agency.

Are you sure you gonna be able to place 100% of that @ Donovan's feet? He's been to 5 NFC title games in 11 years? The fuck has Snyder done? Hell, will you even be able to blame Shanahan? Based on the evidence, imma have to say it'll be more on Snyder than McNabb unless this is the year he completely falls off. And to be fair, none of us are saying McNabb is done so that would be news for all of us.


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364. "that's not what I'm saying at all"
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>Are you sure you gonna be able to place 100% of that @ Donovan's feet?

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369. "Ok, but Smuts.. here me out.."
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If Snyder can't make the right movies WITH McNabb on the roster how on earth would you be better off if he doesn't make the right moves WITHOUT McNabb on the roster? We all understand this is bigger than McNabb & likely it's going to take longer than this year's draft & FA to fix things.

I guess I'm looking at this like it's on Snyder either way but at least you have a QB that will allow you to cotend if he gets it right. I'm trying to figure out what about not having McNabb convinces you that you'd be better off & that Snyder won't still fuck up either way? - lol

Snyder could stock pile picks & just fuck up in the draft versus making bad trades or paying too much for big named free agents.. What's the difference? - lol


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375. "Check:"
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>The draft is hard, but it's the only way to build a sustained
>core of quality players.
>
>If you keep trading day-1 draft picks for Laverneous Coles,
>Santana Moss, 2 first rounders for 1 QB (Campbell), Jason
>Taylor, Donovan McNabb, this is how you end up with an
>offensive roster that needs a massive overhaul, yet you have
>no picks.

>If you want sustained success you have to hoard picks,
>especially rnds 1-3, miss out on most, then eventually find
>guys like Jon Jansen in the 2nd round who start for you for 10
>years.
>
>With McNabb we, at best, go 10-6 for one season, don't
>contend, and then we are right back to square one.
>
>You want to make the playoffs once? You trade for McNabb. You
>want to make the playoffs in consecutive years? Draft. Draft.
>Draft.

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380. "Ok but you still need a QB..."
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390. "Then go with JC for a year. Or even fucking Rex Grossman"
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But a rebuilding team with an awful offensive line should not be giving up a 2nd round pick for an old QB when it's in dire need of youth. In need of MULTIPLE starters on offense.

You find a CHEAP stop gap solution, until you stabilize the roster.

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395. "yup. and if they extend mcnabb it's gonna be for a MINUTE lol"
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good luck wit that
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199. "Good for #5. FUCK the Iggles now."
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205. "Shit, I'll be rooting for 5's success, except for twice a year"
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I HATE that he went to Washington, but I still hope Donovan does well. Just not against Philly.

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207. "We're one Kolb injury away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
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YES!!

  

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209. "*prays corn on the Kolb stinks it up*"
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nmm

  

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241. "my nigga, you won't have to pray."
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Kolb... once he gets a good dose of Andyball, will want to go back to Houston once this is over.

goddamn fuckin' Banner and Lurie.
keeping Reid around so they can lure hopeful Philly fans in believing they'll ever get out of the postseason.

Let's see what happens when this team starts posting 6-10 seasons and gets drubbings from the Cowboys 2x a year (again).

I hope Kolb can be the transitional QB that will bring the next savior of the franchise.

And hopefully Andy Reid won't be the damn coach.

  

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407. "I have zero idea how you continue to speak so definitively on Kolb"
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I mean you would think you've watched him suck in practice for the past three years as you rattle on about how garbage he is, what's even weirder is that you actually seem to want him to be terrible.

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210. "this is so fucking awesome"
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nm

  

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217. "Well I'm done with the Eagles"
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I can't root for the skins but nothing would please me more than for the Skins to win a superbowl.

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408. "Bye Bitch!"
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.

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421. "Lol you dickriding turd surfing lame"
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how long before you turn on Ryan Howard you hoe ass fanatic type.

I'm glad I disowned lame ass fans like you and spm a long time ago.

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423. "bitch why are u still here? You're 200+ posts passed ur expiration date "
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stop cryin, stop lyin, start leavin.

I don't even really like this trade but if it can expedite the process of getting your faggot ass to go somewhere that'd be one very minor ancillary benefit.

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425. "Lol again you broke back mountain homotional ass fickle"
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fake fanatic types are the biggest queers in sports. Your emotionalism leads you to thinking like a bitch(lack of logic)

I ain't going no where and I can't wait for the season to start so I can shit on the eagles sorry ass Kevin Kolb and lame rainbow warrior ass noodles like you.

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432. "pussy go find something else to do like u keep threatening to do"
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no one gives a fuck about you here or probably in most other phases of life.

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218. "my thoughts on this...I'd rather have Campbell than McNabb.."
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right now if I'm the Skins..but snyder has spent his tenure..overpaying...over reacting..rebuilding his entire team from one year to the next..so I don't expect him to change in that regard...

Jason Campbell now has a chance to get away from that dysfunctional organization, and go to either Carolina or Buffalo and continue to build on the talent he's shown.

As far as the Eagles...I mean Andy Reid has been allowed to fukk up more than any modern coach/gm in any sport w/o getting fired. Donovan wasn't the problem...Reid was. Now the Eagles are victim to Reid having to prove himself and forcing a kid who really hasn't done shit into the drivers seat of their franchise...right into the teeth of probably the most unreasonable and hard to please home fan base in America...

I expect Philly fans to be screaming for Vick before this pre-season is over...

  

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222. "um i'm ok with this actually"
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>I expect Philly fans to be screaming for Vick before this
>pre-season is over...
>
>


like i said even IF kolb ain't shit
the eagles will have a former all pro playing for his career and a huge contract sitting on the bench waiting to prove himself
it's win win really
kolb sucks. aight cool start vick and look to draft another future qb
bottom line is they weren't winning the SB with ANY of them QBs anyway
so ship mcfagg fat ass elsewhere , obtain picks and move on

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226. "why you call him McFag man..."
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Shiiit...even if were the biggest flaming faggot in the world....He rode so hard for your home team..you should be a fag to just on GP...lol.

that shit is childish man...

  

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244. "it has nothing to do with his sexuality and it ain't that deep"
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ppl use stupid ass nicknames on here all day every day

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248. "If Donovan ain't in the Pantheon of Philly sports..than there is no Pant..."
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give him his respects..

you are gonna miss the hell ouf to him when Kolb is throwing the ball to the other team....

  

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251. "if kolb sucks he sucks. iono why yall are relating kolbs future to mcnab..."
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leaving
the eagles didn't wanna commit to a 34 yr old injury prone QB for the type of money he's going get
if kolb turns out good that will just be a bonus
and i think he will turn out good
400 yards against the saints
cry about it

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530. "400 yards against the Saints..."
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damn it feels good to have fans of teams using us as the measuring stick.

Champs baby!

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250. "RE: it has nothing to do with his sexuality and it ain't that deep"
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>ppl use stupid ass nicknames on here all day every day



But it IS that serious...It's some disrespectful shit...lol...I understand shitting on players that never produced for you and all...But McNabb played his heart out for your squad....And all you can do is call that cat McFag?...lol

I'm a Bears fan, and I wish dude was on my squad during the years we had a lights out defense...This is the reason why I'll be rooting against the Eagles...Because of Philly fans who felt it was their duty to chase an All-Pro QB out of town who was the main reason why your team was even relevant again in the first place...

Not smart...

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253. "damn that's a good ass analogy actually mcanbb == cutler "
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lol remember how hype yall were over cutler
YUP
lol, redskins fans are going be SALTY

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255. "RE: damn that's a good ass analogy actually mcanbb == cutler "
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>lol remember how hype yall were over cutler
>YUP
>lol, redskins fans are going be SALTY


These comments ^^^^feed into your overall problem though...You never appreciated McNabb...For whatever reason, you have had the guy branded as some underachieving loser...

Listen dog, I get it...It's become part of your image around these parts and on the real, you have been entertaining as hell...Shit, you have been downright hilarious as one of the more interesting posters on this board...But there comes a time that if you are a serious sports fan you gotta look at this without all the one-liners and hyperbole...

McNabb resurrected your franchise...He played on teams that were basically one-dimensional...Most of the time he was the only dimension...That cat was Batman AND Robin for your squad...You talk about him not showing up in the big spots? Trust me...No QB in the history of football can get it done without a REAL runningback.....Ask Manning, who is discovering that right now...

Like i said, I get it...This is part of your Philly fan image...But it would be cool to see you respect a dude that gave his all for your franchise and took you to places that you had never been...Whether he works out for the flawed Redskins is moot..

As a Philly fan YOU should be respecting dude for what he did for your team...Not throwing around the "Fag" word like some white Frat boy...

Dude deserves better from Philly fans...








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268. "no one is denying all that. AI did the same thing for the sixers...SO WH..."
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wasn't no chips involved
so you cut your losses and move on
nobody is acting like mcnabb is straight ass
he's good QB in a league of shitty QB's
but the eagles set a high standard of success by consistently winning
and when you raise the bar expectations are raised and mcnabb never could get over that hump
matter fact he damn near choked every time when put on that stage

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285. "RE: no one is denying all that. AI did the same thing for the sixers...S..."
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>wasn't no chips involved



Ahhh...I see...So let me get this straight...If you are a franchise QB who has led his team to divisional championships and to a Super Bowl appearance, but failed to win that elusive championship, you are a bum, huh?...You are worthy of being called a "Fag" ....Yeah, that sounds logical...


>so you cut your losses and move on

This not about what the Eagles did in terms of moving McNabb...It's about fans like yourself not respecting a man who basically brought your team back from being a joke...


>nobody is acting like mcnabb is straight ass


Nigga...He's not even close to straight ass...He's a Hall of Famer...lol...Yet, to you he's "McFagg"...To a person from the outside looking in, this is strange....Very strange...


>he's good QB in a league of shitty QB's


Stop it dude...You are embarrassing yourself...Stop it dog.....

>but the eagles set a high standard of success by consistently
>winning
>and when you raise the bar expectations are raised and mcnabb
>never could get over that hump
>matter fact he damn near choked every time when put on that
>stage


Dog...What did he really choke? Most of those divisional championships were a reality ONLY because McNabb was making the plays...Dude was throwing to Pinkston and substitute teachers and shit.....lol...And then when he finally got a receiver, his running game became soft as hell....Of course there were times where the blame could have been laid at McNabb's feet...But more often than not, he was the main reason for your success...You need balance to win...And McNabb never really had it...

Just cut it out homie...It's over...You got your wish...Dude gone...But acting like he was an underachieving bum shit worthy of you calling him out of his name every other sentence shows you are either A) just embracing your "Philly Man" image or B) you are an unsophisticated sports fan...

I'm trying to give you the benefit of the doubt...

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289. "um what"
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>Ahhh...I see...So let me get this straight...If you are a
>franchise QB who has led his team to divisional championships
>and to a Super Bowl appearance, but failed to win that elusive
>championship, you are a bum, huh?...You are worthy of being
>called a "Fag" ....Yeah, that sounds logical...
>
>

not saying he's a bum
i'm saying the eagles needed to move on
reid doesn't call a good game with mcnabb in there and mcnabb doesn't perform well on the big stage under reids system.......so why continue the marriage?
get ur high 2nd rounder and move on smiling




>This not about what the Eagles did in terms of moving
>McNabb...It's about fans like yourself not respecting a man
>who basically brought your team back from being a joke...
>
>

donovan brought the team back?
or andy reid did?
or a combo of the two......
bottom line is we have shown we can win without mcfagg
let's see what mcfagg does with out the eagles....




>
>Nigga...He's not even close to straight ass...He's a Hall of
>Famer...lol...Yet, to you he's "McFagg"...To a person from the
>outside looking in, this is strange....Very strange...
>
>

he's not makign the HOF.....


>Stop it dude...You are embarrassing yourself...Stop it
>dog.....
>

stop what? telling the truth
nope i can't do that


>Dog...What did he really choke? Most of those divisional
>championships were won ONLY because McNabb was making the
>plays...Dude was throwing to Pinkston and substitute teachers
>and shit.....lol...And then when he finally got a receiver,
>his running game became soft as hell....Of course there were
>times where the blame could have been laid at McNabb's
>feet...But more often than not, he was the main reason for
>your success...You need balance to win...And McNabb never
>really had it...
>
>Just cut it out homie...It's over...You got your wish...Dude
>gone...But acting like he was an underachieving bum shit
>worthy of you calling him out of his name every other sentence
>shows you are either A) just embracing your "Philly Man" image
>or B) you are an unsophisticated sports fan...
>
>I'm trying to give you the benefit of the doubt...
>


um i was hating on mcnabb WAY before i started calling him mcfagg
like i said it ain't that deep
and mcgagg cost the eagles a SB
fuck em

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272. "there's a line of demarcation here."
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>But it IS that serious...It's some disrespectful
>shit...lol...I understand shitting on players that never
>produced for you and all...But McNabb played his heart out for
>your squad....And all you can do is call that cat
>McFag?...lol

allow me to get my Blackbuster on a minute:

Phillyfans vs. Phillyfags.

Because the latter are so extreme and go above the line, they get more press, more attention, more chance to voice themselves.

Guess which one SPM falls under.

  

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301. "RE: there's a line of demarcation here."
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>>But it IS that serious...It's some disrespectful
>>shit...lol...I understand shitting on players that never
>>produced for you and all...But McNabb played his heart out
>for
>>your squad....And all you can do is call that cat
>>McFag?...lol
>
>allow me to get my Blackbuster on a minute:
>
>Phillyfans vs. Phillyfags.
>
>Because the latter are so extreme and go above the line, they
>get more press, more attention, more chance to voice
>themselves.
>
>Guess which one SPM falls under.


But the thing is Doc, I thought SPM was just an over-the-top dude who was staying in character...I didn't know he was actually serious about his contempt for McNabb....I just don't get it....But it is starting to become clear that SPM may just fall into that Philadelphia stereotype of the ultimate narcissistic sports fan...

It's kind of sad....Really, I hope SPM is some White dude pretending to be black...lol...Because I can't see a brother hating on one of the best black QB's to ever play the game with the amount of contempt SPM is showing...

It's one thing for a Philly fan to want to see a change...It's quite another for someone to be so thoroughly disrespectful and quite frankly ignorant....

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323. "um a TON of eagle fans don't fuck with mcnabb, black, white or chinese"
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fuck does race has to do wit it
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337. "RE: um a TON of eagle fans don't fuck with mcnabb, black, white or chine..."
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>fuck does race has to do wit it
>dude is a cornball


And those fans are ignorant as well...lol....What does him being a "cornball" have to do with any of this...Are you 15 years old?...Is this a "cool" contest?.....The dude produced for you...As a sports fan, that's all you should care about...

Race has everything to do with it...Because I don't see a lot of brothers shitting on dude like he was the Anti-Christ the degree that u are rolling with.......But I see a lot of white boys doing it...In fact, I saw the same white contingent boo McNabb before he even took a snap...

The truth, though? Black or white, it really doesn't matter if you call yourself a knowledgeable sports fan....





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362. "In summation: the hate is irrational"
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"u don't live in philly. mcnabb hate has nothing to do wit race"


  

          

bernard hopkins one of the "realest" black athletes from philly
hates mcnabbs guts
and him being a cornball has nothing to do with his on field production (or lack there of)
i just threw that in there ......cause he is

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388. "RE: u don't live in philly. mcnabb hate has nothing to do wit race"
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>bernard hopkins one of the "realest" black athletes from
>philly
>hates mcnabbs guts
>and him being a cornball has nothing to do with his on field
>production (or lack there of)
>i just threw that in there ......cause he is


What in the holy hell does a washed up fighter have to do with this?...Like I said, most of the hate being directed at McNabb has been on some white boy shit...I got connects in Philly, dog...I've been there enough to listen to the daily sports radio shows to know that most white folks have had it out for dude since day one...He was never good enough for them...And apparently he never will be...

It's troubling that you and a few other black folks (if that's what your race is) have fell for it...No one has ever said that McNabb is above criticism...He's fucked up a few times on the field...I get the normal sports fan getting down on McNabb for not coming through...I understand that...But all of that over-the-top hate you are throwing at dude sounds deranged...It sounds ignorant as hell...

Like I said, maybe I was giving you too much credit by thinking you were just shock posting in character...But you are really for real...lol...You are dead ass...

SMH...




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402. "dude i don't give a FUCK that mcnabb is black , get it thru ur head"
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if i don't like u i don't like u
bottom line
i'm not riding for ppl JUST because they are black
if i think my team is better off without u PEACE THE FUCK OUT
see u at the kente cloth store
holla
shit winston justice is black too
after he gave up 8 sacks to to osi guess how many black eagles fans had his back.....ZERO
i rode with mcnabb for the majority of his career
made excuses for the back to back to back NFC chip losses
2005 was too much for me tho
and the way he left another BLACK player hanging was corny
so fuck that company man ass nigga
yea he's black but like hopkins said he's a fucking house nigga anyway
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411. "LMAO @ this image"
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>see u at the kente cloth store
>holla

SPM at the kente cloth store:
SPM: yo mcfagg! what up
McNabb: who the fuck is you?
SPM: Mugfucker, I'm SPM, ock.

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444. "RE: dude i don't give a FUCK that mcnabb is black , get it thru ur head"
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>if i don't like u i don't like u
>bottom lin

>i'm not riding for ppl JUST because they are black


LOL...U act like I'm talking about Demarcus Russell or something...I'm talking about a cat who is basically going to be a hall of famer....If you can't see the difference with that, you are not much of a logical sports fan...


>if i think my team is better off without u PEACE THE FUCK OUT


But what does this have to do with you calling a dude that basically turned your franchise around a fag?


>see u at the kente cloth store
>holla
>shit winston justice is black too
>after he gave up 8 sacks to to osi guess how many black eagles
>fans had his back.....ZERO
>i rode with mcnabb for the majority of his career
>made excuses for the back to back to back NFC chip losses
>2005 was too much for me tho
>and the way he left another BLACK player hanging was corny
>so fuck that company man ass nigga
>yea he's black but like hopkins said he's a fucking house
>nigga anyway
>chickens came home to roost on that ass


I'll say it again....This is not about making excuses...This is about you not respecting a player who put you in the position to even matter in the first place....It's fans like yourself that fuck the whole game up...Wanting to turn the page on McNabb is one thing....Disrespecting the dude as if he's not the reason the Eagles mattered for all those years is dishonest...

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389. "that coon is mad because he got brushed off."
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>bernard hopkins one of the "realest" black athletes from
>philly
>hates mcnabbs guts

FOH with this homersexual nonsense.

  

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410. "Bernard Hopkins is a fucking champion, fuck outta here"
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424. "so was Eli Manning."
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being a champion doesn't absolve you of being a buffoon.
and when it comes to those idiot Phillyfag comments of his, he's a buffoon. Dude is SPM in boxing form. A real Starscream-type jabroni.

  

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487. "One day someone is going to write a great book about McNabb"
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and how he relates to Philly's race and class issues.

Like SPM said, its a lot of people black and white that dont like McNabb. I think part of it is that he was never veiwed as a lunch pail dude like AI, Dawkins or even Barkley. I think Philly really doesnt like guys who they percieve as polished, upper middle class guys. It's almost the same reason Philly was never too much in love with Kobe (there was always an under current of dislike even before Kobe said he wanted to rip Philly's hearts out in the finals).

I think even the black community in Philly is split on class too and even the brothas up there root for rumble-tumeble niggas like A.I. and T.O. (who they sided with with he quickness) over someone who they think is too clean and subserviant like McNabb. There are some hardcore Philly niggas that just dont like McNabb because they feel he doesnt represent them. And it just aint people like Hopkins. Even the local NAACP President questions McNabb's blackness because he didnt want to run the ball.

Conversely I think there are a lot of white fans (read: NE Philly and South Philly white fnas) who dont like McNabb because they think he's too uppity. These white fans love niggas. But to see this mild mannered black man articulately answer questions and be the face of their franchise I think always rubbed them the wrong way,

And it's funny because the lunch pail dudes are almost always the heart on their sleaves type of dudes that always show too much emotion but its always guys like McNabb that get pointed out as the sensitive divas.

That's just my two cents. I would love to read that book one day.

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511. "the local NAACP pres is an idiot"
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but there is a book to be written that uses mcnabb as an example of race + class.

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223. ""I'd rather have Campbell than McNabb""
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for what? like a Bingo partner?

certainly you don't mean as a football player.

  

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233. "no, for a rebuilding football team"
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Picks & JC help the Skins a lot more.

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242. "I honestly don't even think it's close.....Donovan is older..."
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worn down...his better days are behind him...

I'm a Rams fan.... could have had either one...now we could have Campbell for a 3rd round pick..

I'd take Campbell....he's younger..and his stats are very very favorable to other QBs..


considering the team he played for Campbell did well with what he had..and with the circumstances..

  

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546. "bottom line is neither of them is taking you to a super bowl"
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the skins are not as far away as the rams, they have some gaping needs but they are beginning to address them. the rams basically need everything.

campbell is a decent player, better than his detractors say, but unless you had a great defense, a solid running game and you basically asked him to manage the game for you, he isn't gonna do anything of note. most pros could succeed in the scenario i just described, guys less talented than he is for sure.

mcnabb was capable of taking a team to a super bowl but he's not all he was physically and frankly i think his edge is gone. he used to have a mental thing that was either on or off, he could carry a team when it was on. i haven't seen that switch flipped in a while now, during the 08 turnaround it was a team chemistry thing that clicked and last year i did not see him in form at all. he was a pro, beat the teams he should have, but he gave none of the extra effort you expect to see from a player his caliber who is the leader of a team.

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225. "McNabb forced his way to DC? (swipe)"
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This doesn't make sense to me. No way should the Eagles management be forced in to trading him to a division rival. A threat to retire? Call his fuckin bluff. This shit is ridiculous it can't be all true.


McNabb strong-arms his way to D.C.
Jason Cole

By Jason Cole, Yahoo! Sports 2 hours, 9 minutes ago

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Donovan McNabb(notes) stood his ground against the Philadelphia Eagles for the second straight year. Now, the question is whether he’ll get his revenge.

After being told last month that the Eagles would not deal him to NFC East-rival Washington, McNabb essentially forced Philadelphia’s hand by refusing to talk with any of the other teams that had expressed interest in recent weeks. In the process, McNabb can now take out his simmering anger on the Eagles’ front office that essentially forced him out of a city where he had played his entire career.

“Frankly, I’m a little shocked,” a source close to McNabb said. “I never thought do this. Never. But, yeah, this is the same thing that happened last year.”


That’s a reference to when McNabb leveraged the Eagles to give him a “financial apology” after he had been benched in Week 12 of the 2008 season during a blowout loss to Baltimore. This time, McNabb won a stare-down with Eagles president Joe Banner and right-hand man Howie Roseman.

A stare-down that could come back to haunt the Eagles if they’re not right about new starter Kevin Kolb(notes), who is going into his fourth season but remains largely untested. If Kolb fails and McNabb, who is going to play in a similar system under strong offensive head coach Mike Shanahan, makes the Redskins a consistent contender over the next three to four years, the results could undermine what has been one of the league’s most consistent front offices.

McNabb, who is in the final year of his deal, made this happen by making it clear he wasn’t going anywhere else but Washington. When the Buffalo Bills expressed interest – and even were willing to give McNabb a contract extension – he passed on the offer. When the Oakland Raiders sniffed around and showed willingness to trade for the quarterback without an extension, McNabb indicated to the Eagles through his associates that he’d retire.

“He has plenty of money,” the source close to McNabb said. “He’s not doing anything he doesn’t want to do.”

For the past two weeks, the Eagles had hoped McNabb’s resolve would thaw. He refused to budge, even telling the Eagles he’d be glad to return to the team even though he knew full well Philadelphia wanted no part of the season-long distraction his presence would create. What the Eagles wanted more than anything was to clear the way for Kolb to start and, in the process, sign him to a contract extension at a more favorable price. Kolb also quietly has been forcing the issue by making it clear that if he’s not the starter by this season, he wouldn’t sign an extension. Kolb’s contract is set to expire at the end of this season, meaning the Eagles would have had to put a high tender on him after this season to keep him.

While the Eagles may have paved the way for a new Kolb deal, Banner and Roseman could be paving the road for their dismissal if this doesn’t work. This could be a tipping point in determining who really runs the Eagles. Coach Andy Reid called the shots on the roster, until most recently, when that power increasingly shifted to Banner, a clever contract negotiator who has become expert in locking up players to long-term deals and keeping the Eagles competitive.
Banner

The problem is that Banner’s semi-Moneyball techniques haven’t produced a championship. Neither has McNabb, but he has gotten the Eagles to five NFC championship games and one Super Bowl. Was that success more McNabb or Banner?

Reid believed it was McNabb and had voiced his desire for the Eagles to keep him, even if it cost them Kolb. “Andy thinks Kolb is going to be really good, maybe great. But he knows Donovan is great and probably will be for three or four years,” said a source close to Reid.

Now teamed with Shanahan, a brilliant playcaller, McNabb could exact some serious payback from the Eagles. It would be sweet justice for McNabb, who never has felt respected in Philadelphia.

“Not from Day 1,” the source close to the quarterback said, referring to when Eagles fans booed when McNabb was selected instead of Ricky Williams(notes) in 1998. “Never, and after a while you get tired of it. He’s put up with this for his whole career. They never gave him real weapons until now with those guys . He took them to how many title games with a bunch of stiffs at receiver?”

McNabb did have Terrell Owens(notes) in 2004, but that turned into a well-documented disaster the following season.

While the Redskins don’t feature a bunch of stars at wide receiver or running back and are rebuilding their offensive line, they have the No. 4 overall draft pick. They also have Shanahan.

Not a bad situation if you’re McNabb.

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>Not a bad situation if you’re McNabb.

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240. "I'm going to make a separate post"
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a "get in the tank for Donovan post" like "all aboard the Donovan McNabb tank as he steamrolls his way through the NFC East" or something.

and I understand your reservations, you and I clearly disagree on this matter. But I'll save you a front seat in the tank and I'll tell everyone who gets in the tank that they can't sit there because that's Smuts' seat and when he eventually wants to hop in the tank, after 5 connects to Fred Davis for his 13th TD, that's where he's gonna sit. So no hard feelings, love is love.

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but I want better things for this team than a couple first round playoff exits.

We haven't made the playoffs in consecutive years since 1992.

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247. "um a threat of retirement ain't shit really if the eagles were willing t..."
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move on anyway
which they obviously were when they showed they wouldn't commit long term to donovan
i think the eagles would have called his bluff on some shit like that
this is the same organization that basically shitted on and traded away lito, TO, dawkins, and sheldon for asking for money
i can't see them yielding to any player to be honest
i think this was just a case of a trade working out for both player and team

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232. "lol @ mcfagg and jason campbell having similar numbers last yr"
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mcfagg mmissed 2 games, so do it on avg.
and that's wit mcfagg having better Oline and better weapons
can't wait until he throws some worm killer to injured ass willie parker or santonio holmes feet
lol


mcnabb was 12th in QB rating
fucking 20th in completion % , behind niggas like campbell , alex smith, kyle orton and chad henne lol
14th in TDs
and in the 20s in passing yards

all this wit one of the more explosive offenses in the league, that passed 3 out of 4 downs............
niggas can argue all day that wit a more balanced pass attack mcnabb is gon be better
i'ma argue he's going be in the mid to low 20 rankings for every category
lol
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234. "100% accurate"
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>redskins are going go from 4 wins to 6

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263. "prolly cuz when you LOSING you passing the ball all game? - lol"
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Eagles has the 5th best offense w/ McNabb at the helm. I see you left that part out... lol

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274. "shitting on McNabbs comp. % means u know NADA about football"
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or did not watch the Eagles last year, and I know you did...

This isnt fucking Chad Pennington dink & dunk down the field, the Eagles take shots... 2 deep incompletions mean dick when you complete the 3rd one for a 60 yard touchdown...

so what, McNabb comes up short on some short passes... there are less places to throw when the other team drops their lb's back into coverage because your dumb ass franchise has refused to even attempt to run the ball for the last decade! Peyton Manning has actually turned strictly to his running game in big games, and the most integral part of his success is his amazing play action passing, something that teams don't even pay attention to when playing Philly...

I actually like Jason Campbell, but as a Jet fan and big Santana Moss fan, watching Santana Moss's talent go to absolute WASTE the past 5 years has hurt my soul, Campbell has a strong arm but his deep accuracy is fucking TERRIBLE, I hope Moss has that elite speed left for 2 more years because he finally has a qb who can take advantage of it

  

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277. "brees don't take shots? manning don't take shots? shut the fuck up"
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that's still no excuse for low completion %
not to mention half mcnabbs passes ARE dink and dunk dumbass
the eagles thrive off screens to the RB and short passes to the TE and to the side lines
the 2-3 long passes to desean a game that u saw on sportscenter aren't the majority of the eagles pass plays
matter fact the conservative nature of reids play calling is the reason why the deep ball worked so much
the short high completion % type passes essentially are the eagles run game
they set u up wit that and go long
problem is when u play GOOD teams that don't give up the deep ball and can get pressure on mcfagg u need those short passes to be ACCURATE since u don't run the ball
cause that's ur way of grinding it out
so his inaccuracy DOES mean shit
who gives a fuck if he can throw bombs against the panthers and tampa bay
when we played dallas and they didn't give our WRs time to get down the field we need that short game accuracy and mcfagg was throwing at worms and we saw what happened
u don't know shit bout eagles football so fall back and let a live nigga handle this

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282. "so it's McNabb and not the shitty ass system?? "
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that fails in the playoffs year after year?

you say it yourself, since you don't run the ball... that shit wouldnt work for anybody, any qb in the nfl would struggle in that situation...

The Saints and Colts run the ball... if Kolb has a real good mid 60's completion % next year I'll eat my words gladly, but that shit ain't gonna happen




>>problem is when u play GOOD teams that don't give up the deep ball >>and can get pressure on mcfagg u need those short passes to be >>ACCURATE since u don't run the ball
>>cause that's ur way of grinding it out
>>so his inaccuracy DOES mean shit

  

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288. "see, I think it's a bit of both but Eagles fans seem to have"
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amnesia about Reid's play calling. I think maybe Brees, Peyton, pre-injury Brady could run Reid system significantly better than Donovan but I'm not sure Kolb or Vick can.


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290. "naw i want Reid to get fired too. don't get it twisted. it's just that t..."
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zero percent chance of that happening any time soon
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291. "fair enough, either way, can't imagine any eagle fan happy he's in "
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the same division... did the Eagles get fair market value? Yes, is their a legit argument that it is time to move on especially if you are going to let McNabb walk next year anyway? Absolutely, but to the Skins? Craziness

  

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299. "i don't know a single eagles fan who likes reid's playcalling"
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a lot of them dislike mcnabb too, but no one thinks reid's a good playcaller.


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304. "but the point is some of McNabb's ineffectiveness is BECAUSE"
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of Reid's play calling. In a Shanahan offense, I think McNabb could be very good.


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313. "ehh. i think we'll see about the same mcnabb as last year"
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shanahan's play calling advantage is about equal to the talent advantage @ philly in regards to the WRs.

that's good enough for a couple more wins, one of them definitely against the iggles, but so what, in the long run?

this feels identical to the bledsoe trade except eagles fans aren't as positive about the QB as pats fans were. A great haul considering the lack of leverage the eagles had, but to a division rival that seems like they might surpass the eagles. i can't imagine the eagles getting any more than they did. and that's more important than trading within a division or not.

that 39th or 37th (i forget) pick is going to be a valuable player. a very valuable player if they pick well.

i mean, with 3 top 55 picks, the eagles could instantly improve their entire defense...a CB, a S, and a LB. that's a lot better for them than the upgrade between mcnabb and kolb.

because, honestly, having watched all season, mcnabb wasn't playing well in that system any more. Too many bad throws coupled with bad play calls. McNabb needed a better system for him, the eagles needed a more accurate passer and really need upgrades at multiple positions.

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316. "but under Shanny w/a viable running game McNabb extend"
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his career. He could easily be the Washington QB for the next 5 years which would give them plenty of time to build especially if they bomb next season & they're back at the top of the draft. I kinda see this as a win/win for Washington because they could also start grooming a QB if they gonna trade Campbell for an additional pick. Shit, if they trade him to the Raiders, they might get 5 picks - lol.

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394. "you're dealing in ifs and shoulds"
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bledsoe looked completely rejuvenated in Buffalo...

for a year. that's the risk washington is running...a 34 year old qb *could* turn out to be in the beginning of a second golden age, but it's as (more?) likely you'll be able to eke one, maybe two years out of him.

especially a qb like donovan who isn't mobile anymore but is still wildly inaccurate in the short to intermediate routes. that's not a good look for an aging qb. maybe shanny can fix him, or maybe he goes griese on him and makes him look good for a bit before discarding him.

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398. "Bledsoe never had a QB rating of 90 or above his entire career"
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He's also LESS accurate than McNabb. McNabb has had 3 str8 years of +60% completions. If his production doesn't fall of a cliff (plausible but given what we know NOT likely) and he's complemented w/ a good running game (WAS has been good at that & Shanny is good @ that) I'm failing to see why this is a bad marriage.

Nothing is stopping Washington from keeping Campbell if they think he'll be the guy in a few years or drafting a QB to sit behind the veteran. I remember this team in NE who had a little success w/ that strategy.

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305. "I see what you're doing Legacy.. lol you're playing madmaker"
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FOH

There's not one person on this forum who propped Reid up over McNabb. Pretty sure we all gave Reid as much or more grief than McNabb here.

People act like there isn't a point every season where we want him fired.

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315. "while that's a reasonable presumption - lol"
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I'm really not.. I'm just saying it seems like Eagles fans in this post have forgotten how Reid's play calling put the offense & McNabb in bad situations. Yes, he definitely had his share of fuckups but I think in a system w/ a little better running attack he can be extremely effective.

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324. "We haven't forgotten anything"
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But Reid isn't going anywhere. The Eagles had to move McNabb because they needed more picks to address the defense.

You can't really separate the two because I've always believed they had equal blame when things went bad. You can't really separate where one's struggles ended and the other's began. In Philly they were practically looked at as two sides of the same person.

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350. "ok but if Reid doesn't change then you realize you need a QB"
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*better* than Donovan for that offensive philosophy to work @ peak efficiency.

Kolb? Vick?

Iono fam..

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366. "Nah, you need a QB who's a better fit for what Reid does."
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McNabb was never a good fit in the West Coast Offense. Even his biggest supporters would admit that.

Kolb is more of a WCO QB. Now we'll have to see how good he is. We'll get to see if he's a long term starter or a Tim Rattay (I think he's good, so I'm not worried).

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378. "Ok so since Kolb is a better fit then the team should be better"
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say 12 wins? - lol

I'm just saying man.. I know McNabb wasn't a perfect fit but has anyone considered that better fit might not be more significant than better player. What if McNabb is clearly better than Kolb?

I'm not saying Kolb sucks. I'm just saying I'm skeptical that he can takeover this team & the Eagles don't miss a beat.

1 losing season for the Eagles in 11 years under McNabb.
7 double digit win seasons..

And if Kolb does that, which at this point is HIGHLY doubtful, but doesn't win the big one how is that any different?

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393. "McNabb won 10 games last year, just saying."
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The Eagles weren't going to win 11 games this season if they kept McNabb. They were going to contend for a playoff spot (like I've been saying for weeks), but they weren't a Super Bowl contender.

The team had a lot of holes and they were committed to Kolb being the QB of the future. The other option was losing McNabb for nothing (or franchising him to trade), and end up locking Kolb up long term without knowing how good he is.

The moment they didn't extend McNabb last offseason it was a sign that he wasn't their long term fix. So they had to make a move this offseason or risk being assed out in the end.

I think McNabb is still a good QB despite how frustrating watching him can be at times, but I think the Eagles needed to make a change. I think the separation was best for the team and McNabb. If McNabb goes elsewhere and wins a championship I'll be resigned to the fact that it wasn't going to happen here.

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427. "stop trying to pretend you have any idea what Eagle fans think"
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>amnesia about Reid's play calling.

because that above statement is laughable.

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433. "Oh sure I do..."
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It's not my fault y'all don't know what the fuck y'all be talking about...

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437. "anything in there about how we love Andy Reid's playcalling?"
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didn't think so.

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475. "^ hiding his mad for no particular reason ^"
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Anyway, the point I was making was that Eagles fans act like they forgot how much play calling contributed to putting McNabb, the offense & the defense in bad situations. Again, McNabb fucked up some too but the offensive philosophy is flawed.
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499. "and what I'm telling you is no, they don't, blame gets assigned to both"
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>Anyway, the point I was making was that Eagles fans act like
>they forgot how much play calling contributed to putting
>McNabb, the offense & the defense in bad situations.

McNabb's the most prominent player with some absolutely legendary big-moment fuck-ups so he's gonna hear about it but plenty people have issue with Reid's playcalling & game management over the years.

We've also seen a Reid-coached team be successful sans Donovan (5-0 with Detmer/Feely in 2002, make a miraculous playoff run with Garcia in 2006, flashes of Kolb looking like he might be able to play last year in the L to New Orleans & the blowout win over KC).

The difference between the two is that Reid essentially runs the show, so moving on from one is a lot more realistic than the other.

Reid's now staked his career on some of these younger kids he's drafted the past few years (DeSean, Kolb, Maclin, McCoy, etc). We'll see what happens. I like his chances of having success from here out more than Donovan at Top 5 QB money while showing signs of decline.

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514. "I guess if the fatman can change his ways I'd agree"
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but I can't see the Eagles not having any fall off w/ Kolb playing for 16 games. Long term maybe (and I stress maybe) it's the right move but do you honest feel you're contending for the division next year?

I just don't see it.

I could be wrong but we'll see..

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519. "agreed, I expect to win maybe 9 games next year, they still needed"
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to see whether Kolb has something to be the long-term answer & get some kind of value for McNabb before he walked for nothing next offseason.

The trading in-division was/is the unsettling part of it but considering the general approach of this trade matches what these two teams have been doing for more than a decade, it's not quite as scary.

Generally I'd wish Donovan luck considering he's a major reason why my squad's been competitive for the past decade plus but in this case I'm hoping he becomes another thing for me to clown my Skin fans friends about.

I have a feeling it ends somewhere in between clowning & postseason success.

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531. "it'll only be clowning if Donovan shows out in Washington and/or"
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Washington finishes ahead of Philly. But then again, they'll be the general NFC East hate based clowning regardless so...


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293. "RE: brees don't take shots? manning don't take shots? shut the fuck up"
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even you know better than that..if you watched the game, the eagles havent used the screen game consistently since Shawn Andrews messed up his back. Runyan and Andrews use to get out in the front of the screen, but after Shawn went down in 2008 and Runyan couldnt run anymore in 2008, they abandoned the screen. they definitely didnt run it with Stacey Andrews or Winston Justice...

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297. "they didn't run it as much naw, but they still ran it and dumped off to"
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312. "the only stat that matters for a QB"
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236. "This post hasn't scratched the surface of it's full potential..."
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...which will be realized when McNabb gets injured.

Noticed I said "when" not "if."

I'm not wishing it on the guy, but he had his semi-healthy year last year.

Over under on 8 games?


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243. "yup worst thing they could do imo is trade jason campbell and re up"
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donovan for a long ass time
keep campbell and see if maybe donovan will play this year without an extension
donovan JUST started running fast again this year
took dude like 2 yrs to fully recover. i wouldn't re-up him without seeing how he survives behind that line

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284. "Oh, this will get to 750 EASILY.."
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254. "o and in classic Eagles fashion they stole the show from Phillies"
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opening day
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256. "good trade for both sides IMO"
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I think the Skins got a great deal considering they got him from a division opponent.

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261. "11 Competitive years 5 gave us, Greatest Eagle QB of all time"
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He'll be missed, time for the more accurate Kolb era

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264. "Reid got some big balls (no homo)"
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thats how much faith (or none) in McNabb being a threat to them.

Redskins dumb enough to take him.

Campbell is the better QB.

nothing has changed for the Skins. nothing.

Eagles got Kolb, and Vick if all else fails. they are straight.

<--- we've got bush!

  

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266. "After a good nites sleep"
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on paper, this trade works for both teams. philly's defense is STILL wacktacular, but Reid has shown he will adjust the playcalling when needed. And those 2nd and 3rd down throws won't get skiped off the pavement with Kolb. NOBODY can can act like them shits did'nt hurt.

Kolb has been in philly long enough to know he has huge expectations. I highly doubt he comes in and dosent bring his A game, if he fails, it won't be lack of trying.

I live in MD so i know JC in DC has been like Mcnabb in philly, on a smaller scale. Bringing in Mcnabb allows the team and fans to rally around the feeling that change is coming. Don't act like JC dosent become instant trade bait, they will address the O-line, and the skins DO try and run the ball, much to Mcnabb's benifit.

  

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273. "Cardinals will take Campbell. I think the kid is capable in a real offen..."
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334. "I'm shocked the Cards didn't get McNabb"
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I figured maybe the Eagles wouldn't trade him to an NFC team but then they go an do this ... you can't tell me #5 wasn't more valuable to the Cards than the Skins
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344. "I agree but I honestly don't want dude. He ain't a winner."
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Like guaranteed playoff and whatnot but after that? Naw man. Cards don't have the kind of running game to bail McNabb out.

I wanted Vick. I'll take Campbell though. I think he'd beast in that offense and he's young enough to not be known as a choker.

  

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351. "Your entire post proves you don't watch much football"
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361. "If you say so coach. I know you ain't puttin McNabb on Kurt's level"
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Cuz if you are... look, I know you ain't.

I'd love to see McNabb win it all. I just don't think he's built to lead a team to do it.

  

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"What "ground game" did Philly have to "bail" McNabb out?"


  

          

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397. "Oh Westbrook was a chump now? I'm pretty sure he got a lot"
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of touches and was a big part of the offense.

  

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406. "You're proving my point"
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Westbrook was the best back McNabb had. However, anybody that followed the Eagles will tell you this team couldn't run for a firstdown when it was 3rd and 1.

Also, Westbrook was more of a receiving threat than he was rushing threat. As good as Westbrook was he only rushed for over 1,000 yards 2 times in his career. 2007 being the last time Westbrook went over the 1,000 yard mark (1,333).

Also adding to this is the fact Reid NEVER relied on a RB when #5 was under center.

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417. "Oh so you'd rather have had Hightower and Beanie during"
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Westbrook's prime years? If you say yes, the only point being proven is that you're being delusional. Westbrook was a poor man's Marshall Faulk, Warner's best RB. That's a compliment. If short yardage is the standard for a great RB, you need new standards (and why couldn't Don get those yards? No forreal). The way he passed out of the backfield was their version of the run game. Don't front like it wasn't.

So ummm yeah

  

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429. "You're up here talking like Warner won a ring with the Cards"
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Because I could very easily flip this and ask if you would rather have Faulk or Westbrook ... but the idea a running game can be reduced to a back is ridiculous to begin with.
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434. "You're up here talking like McNabb's SB performance = Warner's"
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>Because I could very easily flip this and ask if you would
>rather have Faulk or Westbrook ... but the idea a running game
>can be reduced to a back is ridiculous to begin with.

I never said that (but I'll roll with it). He was the one plea copping about running game. Since when can't a running game be reduced to a back? Don't they run with the ball and catch the ball out of the backfield? try again Sparky. I don't even understand you man.

McNabb's is not on Kurt Warner's planet. Please stop trying to insult me. Did you watch McNabb in the SB? Did you watch Warner in one of his 3? The conversation should end there.

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439. "RE: You're up here talking like McNabb's SB performance = Warner's"
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Since when can't a running game be
>reduced to a back? Don't they run with the ball and catch the
>ball out of the backfield? try again Sparky. I don't even
>understand you man.

A little thing called run blocking.

>McNabb's is not on Kurt Warner's planet. Please stop trying to
>insult me. Did you watch McNabb in the SB? Did you watch
>Warner in one of his 3? The conversation should end there.

You do realize McNabbs had a better game than Warner did in his second SB right? Look I'm not up here telling you McNabb is Joe Montana ... just that Kurt Warner damn sure isn't either. To say McNabb isn't on the same planet as Warner is just fan talk.

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414. "RE: Oh Westbrook was a chump now? I'm pretty sure he got a lot"
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>of touches and was a big part of the offense.

Nah...

Westbrook was basically a receiver in a running backs body...He made explosive plays off of screens...But he was never a true running back...He never was able to get the big yardage between the tackles the team needed during those big downs...The yardage McNabb needed to win it all...

McNabb's last squad was the best he had ever worked with...And that team was dependent on a rookie stud receiver...Sure McNabb has made a few questionable plays...But he's the reason why the Eagles were even in the discussion in terms of elite teams in the first place...

McNabb was not perfect...But all this other shit some folks are spewing out is just silly...and at times ignorant...

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374. "McNabb would have at least one ring had he been with the same cast"
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Kurt was rolling with ... actually I'd bet he have 2 now that I think about it. Warren was a good QB but let's not act like he carried these teams by himself.
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399. "naw man. Kurt Warner had two things McNabb doesn't"
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ability to needle passes between defenders
quick release
ability to run a no huddle in the SB

That's three things

McNabb had a real legit shot to win one with at the time one of the league's two best receivers and he puked. Please don't late your Kurt hate blind you.

  

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420. "No you're forgetting one thing"
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how Kurt looked in NY and his first few years in AZ

Talent around you is everything for a QB
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435. "you're forgetting one thing"
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McNabb had talent and actually has mobility (2 things)

so then there's that

  

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445. "RE: you're forgetting one thing"
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>McNabb had talent...


Yeah, he was surrounded by talent......for three of the years he was there...lol

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460. "A) That's not even sorta true B) He still puked in the huddle"
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with aaaaaaaaaaaallllllll that talent

He ain't know what ta do widdit

  

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465. "OK so this is what we're doing"
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"He still puked in the huddle"

get back to me when you want to talk football because this talk radio shtick is a waste of everyone's time.


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496. "okay, why was he jogging 2 the huddle during crunch time?"
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I'll wait.

  

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469. "RE: A) That's not even sorta true B) He still puked in the huddle"
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>with aaaaaaaaaaaallllllll that talent
>
>He ain't know what ta do widdit


That's what we are turning this into?...dude puking in a game...A game in which he still produced?

This is not even a debate....Nine years out of the 11 years he basically played without true receivers...And that's in addition to the soft running backs he had to depend on not to mention his lack of a true running game (when u are not able to get crucial 1st Downs by just 1-yard, that's a problem...)...His main target for the most part has been a tight end, who cannot be depended on to stretch the field out...

And when he finally got a receiving corp that wasn't a cancer (T.O.) or below average (Freddie Michell, Pinkston ect...) they were young kids....

Like i said, McNabb was far from perfect...But when you are a future hall of famer, there's only so much blame you can take...

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481. "Dude is basically playing both sides here"
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The "he's never had good talent around him" when to comes to Campbell

And "let's look at the numbers" when it comes to McNabb vs Warner



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495. "and you're playing dumb"
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Name one year in Campbell's 3 that he had a better team than Donovan


>The "he's never had good talent around him" when to comes to
>Campbell
>
>And "let's look at the numbers" when it comes to McNabb vs
>Warner

More years 2 compare.


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535. "Name me a 1500 back that's played with McNabb"
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Or do you really think Westbrook provided the same type of running game Portis did? For that matter Santana Moss isn't no slouch either. You make it sound like dude was with the 06 49ers throwing to Arnez Battle and Antonio Bryant.

Washington is middle of the pack offensive talent wise but outside of McNabb Philly has been too for the most part.
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542. "Portis' prime years were before JC was a starter same with Moss"
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Cooley was his best option. And let's not discuss his O-line. keep trying though.

  

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548. "Portis' best year as a Skins starter was probably 2008 w/Campbell"
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498. "you're hurting. I don't want to provoke you any more. stay up."
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464. "let's dead this - "
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Kurt Warner
102.8 post season QB rating
9-4 post season record
3,952 career post season passing yards
66.5 % completion percentage
31 TDs 14 INTs


Donovan McNabb
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472. "More INTS in less games"
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And playmakers at WR get you TDs ... something McNabb has seen very few of during his stint in Philly

If anything you just poured gas on the fire
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474. "Oh I get it. hate on hater"
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482. "Actually we're on the same side"
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I'm happy they didn't get McNabb and hope they go out and get Campbell


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493. "both are better than any QB the 9ers have too"
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>I'm happy they didn't get McNabb and hope they go out and get
>Campbell
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534. "RE: both are better than any QB the 9ers have too"
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Jason Campbell 86.4
Alex Smith 81.5

yeah big difference there .... oh I forgot you don't use stats ... unless you're talking about Warner and McNabb
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536. "haha. did i lie?"
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372. "Campbell over Anderson and Leinart maybe"
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Over McNabb?

You can't be serious?
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400. "I'm serious but I never said it was rooted in stats"
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I'd rather give Campbell a shot in a great offense with great weapons. McNabb had a chance to do that. I just don't think he has the IT. Let this kid show out. I think he's been in a bad situation and despite that has shown he's capable or at least deserving of a good look elsewhere.

  

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430. "So the guy that's proven he can take you as far as you've ever been"
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isn't good enough

but the guy won has never even sniffed a playoff victory is?
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436. "why is getting there good enough? and why are you arguing with "
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someone that told you their opinion on this particular matter is not rooted in stats? Every stat in world says Peyton Manning is one of the best ever and I'd still pick a few QBs over him in the crunch. That's just the way it is.

  

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440. "Getting there is all your teams has done"
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and they've done it ONCE

I just find it amusing you are making a QB with one ring out to be better than someone like Peyton even though he matches and surpasses the cat you champion on every single level.

Then you turn around and shit on a dude with a winning track record in favor of a dude that has never won shit nor shown he's more than a "c" level talent.

You just have no consistency to your argument man
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cheap skeiht killa
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459. "now you're just making it up"
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>and they've done it ONCE
>
>I just find it amusing you are making a QB with one ring out
>to be better than someone like Peyton even though he matches
>and surpasses the cat you champion on every single level.

I never said he was better than Peyton. Would I roll with him in the crunch in the post season? Absolutely. I'd roll with Brady and Big Ben too. Why does that hurt you?



>Then you turn around and shit on a dude with a winning track
>record in favor of a dude that has never won shit nor shown
>he's more than a "c" level talent.
>
>You just have no consistency to your argument man


And again you ignore the part where I said my opinion was not based on stats. You arguing about something I already conceded doesn't make you win the argument over my opinion. Donovan had better talent than JC ever year of his career. Hmmm Joe Montana had a great career, maybe the Cards should bring him in for a workout. I bet he'd e better than Jason Campbell. Do you even know how crazed your logic sounds?

JC is 28 and has started only three seasons for a crappy org with a crappy owner and crappy teammates. Considering his crappy circumstances I'd like to see the kid play for a team with talent and a good coach. Donovan had his shot, I want this kid to get his shot. What do you not understand about this?

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466. "Honestly man you've proven time and time again you don't know much"
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going back to those Cards going back to the super bowl and monday night niner game threads. you looked at that card team and saw a champion when I saw a squad not ready for prime time ... I told you they were going to get worked on that monday night and they did ... I told you they wouldn't get out of the second round and they didn't. You say you don't use stats ... obviously. My question is just what do you use when you form these opinions... I mean it hasn't worked out very well so far so whatever it is you might want to consider a change.
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478. "what's that say about u for continuing to respond? wait,wait, I know"
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483. "RE: what's that say about u for continuing to respond? wait,wait, I know"
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What r u 5?


lol


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492. "what up Drillbit. "
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500. "wtf, and Philly did? "
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Naw man.
>Cards don't have the kind of running game to bail McNabb out.
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275. "washington got totally hosed on this trade"
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they will still be third place behind the cowbowys and giants for the next 3-4 years no matter how mcnabb plays anyway. and thats best case scenario. at worst kolb will be good and the eagles will still be better than them.

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283. "well..."
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3 of the 6 losses in the conference were pretty close.

Lost @ NYG 24-27 (lost by 33 in the 2nd game)
Lost @ PHI 24-27 (lost by 10 in the 2nd game)
Lost @ DAL 6-7 (lost by 17 in the 2nd game)

They also lost to CAR, DET, KC, ATL..

Donovan could make them a .500 team right off the back.


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296. "most games in the NFL are close"
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playing the 'luck' game is a poor way to run a front office.

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298. "having a better leader/player could be the difference though"
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esp when you add the Shanahan factor into the mix. The bottom line is you need a QB to be in contention in this league and Donovan has gone to 5 NFC title games in 11 years.
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322. "With how bad our offensive line is, I don't believe McNabb"
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will make much of a difference.

leadership isn't going to make Rabach-Dockery-Mike Williams-Heyer into decent linemen.

They will still suck.

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333. "offensive lines seem worse tho with bad QBs"
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335. "That's true"
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but after watching our line every snap last year, I'm convinced 2 of them are awful nfl starters (MW & Heyer) and 2 of them are marginal at best (Dock & Rabach).

And this assumes we draft a new LT to start, otherwise our starting LT is awful too.

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365. "mcnabb is better than campbell but he needs time to get thru his"
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progressions cause he's so careful wit the ball
if the skins don't improve that line mcnabb will be sacked 40+ times just like campbell was
maybe even more actually
drew brees he is NOT

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391. "please discuss it.. I know Campbell was under a lot of pressure"
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but I also know his ass had terrible pocket presence & held on to the ball too fuckin long WAY too many times..

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342. "RE: washington got totally hosed on this trade"
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>they will still be third place behind the cowbowys and giants
>for the next 3-4 years no matter how mcnabb plays anyway. and
>thats best case scenario. at worst kolb will be good and the
>eagles will still be better than them.

if the eagles finish butt naked last in the division how can they still be a better team then the redskins in your scenario?


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276. "and that pretty much makes Sam #1"
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If you believe the trade-up hype over the weekend.

  

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278. "Objective thinking"
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Eagles:
- Philly made up their mind they were ready to move on and needed to get value for 5 while taking his future/feeling into consideration. Trading within the division is risky and generally a bad idea but the Skins were the only team that wasn't a death sentence and gave them what they want.
- Everyone loves the backup until he's the starter. From what I've see Kolb can play but he just inherited Donovan's 5 ton anchor around his neck = HOLD THAT!!!!
- Through this whole thing I haven't heard a word about Vick. It's a minor component but if Kolb shits the bed the Eagles still have MIKE VICK to step in. That's a pretty good insurance policy in my eyes.

Redskins:
- One thing I can say with confidence is that this team got better overnight. McNabb is a clear upgrade over Campbell and with Shanahan there he will make this work.
- Campbell now becomes draft picks or salary relief
- They can now use the #4 for something alot less risky than Jimmy fucking Clausen.

I think the W is for the Redskins but the Eagles could make good use of the those picks and if Kolb plays well they look real smart. Like everyone else I can't wait to see how this plays out.

  

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287. "good summary"
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and I think most objective non-fans of these teams like myself would agree

  

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292. "i agree except for the Redskins taking the W part"
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cause the eagles will probably be better this year, 3 yrs from now, and 5 yrs from now.....

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295. "assuming you have a competent QB"
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that's at least a question mark at this point. Kolb being good for a few games doesn't mean shit. Scott Mitchell ring a bell? And even if Kolb has a great season can he do it twice, 3Xs, 4Xs?... Matt Cassell looked like a world beater too for one year..


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309. "I don't get all the McNabb hate, I really don't"
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You would think if a QB took his team to 5 NFC Championship games and one SB in 11 season, folks would love him. Yet folks are dancing like white folks on Cinco de Mayo.

I work with a lot of Eagles' fans and they know I'm a *skins fan. One dude just said, "Good luck with your new quarterback." He was giddy as shit. I told him to be careful what you wish for. He then said, "McNabb sucks." Which was followed by echos of the same thing coming from various cubes.

So a quarterback that is the franchise leader in passing yards, completions, completion percentage, and touchdowns passes - sucks? Also it cracks me up that people say, "He didn't bring the city a championship!!!!" Not like these things are easy to win. Ask Dan Marino, Jim Kelly, Warren Moon, Fran Tarkenton, Dan Fouts...

Okay, so what QBs have won the big game since McNabb entered the league:

2000 - Kurt Warner
2001 - Trent Dilfer
2002 - Tom Brady
2003 - Brad Johnson
2004 - Tom Brady
2005 - Tom Brady
2006 - Ben Roethlisberger
2007 - Peyton Manning
2008 - Eli Manning
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318. "Another small thing not being talked about in this post ="
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Bringing in Shanahan and Bruce Allen along with this trade now immediately changes the culture and appearance of Redskins football from fans to players to media in a positive way. That's a big deal. They've been an underachieving joke for a long time and needed pretty drastic changes to even change the feel of the team. I think even if all the negative things people have described for McNabb in Washington happen they've made a step towards becoming a winner in the minds of their own players and fans. As an organization I think that's a risk you take. The 49ers would have been smart to make this trade themselves.

  

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308. "Kolb won't get the grief McNabb gets"
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Not just because he's white, but because his approach to press conferences is completely different. Also he won't be confused for being lockstep with Reid.

People are going to love Kolb even if he sucks (he won't though). He also has that white boy fire on the field and talks shit. I mean if he's as good as the Reid n'em think he is.. man, there's a lot of people who are going to hate him.

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447. "he's already got one on the bandwagon."
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>People are going to love Kolb even if he sucks (he won't
>though). He also has that white boy fire on the field and
>talks shit. I mean if he's as good as the Reid n'em think he
>is.. man, there's a lot of people who are going to hate him.

he's a Phillyfag's dream.
and I'm hoping that dream gets crushed in the worst way.
because it will hopefully, HOPEFULLY lead to Dr. Robotnik getting airlifted out of town.

  

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505. "LMAO @ Dr. Robotnik"
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294. "Just bad business by the Skins once again"
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The Eagles HAD to move McNabb, if the Skins waited they could've got away with less I'm almost positive a 3 would've sufficed closer to the draft.

His contract still expires this year. With him already saying he wants to play with Chilly in Minnesota, why would he re-up with Washington (other than the fact the lockout looms and a nice Snyder signing bonus would set him up nicely for a year off).

The Skins ain't ready to win right now, and most likely they just wasted a 2nd round pick on an above average quarterback for 1 season.

I could see him in Minnesota in 2011 or anywhere else. Also the prospective lockout is gonna cut a year off whatever he has left anyways. Good luck trying to win before that happens.

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As a McNabb supporter and Eagles fan, I've accepted it was time to move on. The defense sucks and we're not winning this year. We have a good young offensive nucleus and might as well see if Kolb is the guy to lead them (I don't think he is, but whatever).

Within the division, who cares. I like it cause it brings a lot more drama to the Skins games which have been boring for a decade. Also we take a 2nd and a 3/4 from them, who could use a few draft picks to become a playoff contender. I don't see the downfall in trading him there. You can win the Super Bowl without winning the division.

A loss to the Redskins might be bad PR, but it's just as bad as a loss to any other NFC team.

And Donovan in Minnesota, Arizona or Carolina I think is a much bigger threat to a team who thinks they can contend for a Super Bowl (even if theyre delusional and a few years away).

To get the 5th pick in the 2nd round and another future mid-round pick for someone the whole league knew was going to be moved I think is very good value.

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300. "RE: mcnabb to the skins (confirmed)"
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311. "i have no words to describe my heartbreak"
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317. "oh, and we offered Haynesworth first hahahahaha"
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319. "Yeah, I heard they're trying to drop him"
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I know he doesn't fit well into a 3-4 but damn, he made much of the d-line better last year.

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321. "he played 60% of the 12 games he was active"
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he's a bum. MAYBE we can talk Schwartz into taking him. I'd accept a 2nd and 5th for him RIGHT NOW.

  

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327. "i just read he got his $21 MILLION bonus on Thursday"
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*shudder*

  

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329. "Yeah but some dudes had career years"
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326. "Titans had it right when they made him play for contract yearly"
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Once he's paid he's done.

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330. "it was only a matter of time..."
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..who knew he would play the "company man" for this long?

anyway, this is great entertainment for the league...


*los angeles lakers: 2009 nba champions*

-the dynasty continues-

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love it

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had explained why this isn't asinine yet.

If so, holla back.

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357. "If Kolb is decent, and Reid knows this, it's a great move"
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If McNabb goes downhill fast, is injury prone, and plays 10 games a year, it was a good move for the Eagles.

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363. "Oh I see.. it's ok for Kolb to be *decent* when you traded away"
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a QB that got you to 5 NFC title games and a SB appearance? I would expect that you make this move because you're going to be BETTER not decent. The fuck kind of 5 in hurdle shit was that? - lol
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370. "Kolb has won about the same amount of big games as McNabb "
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ZILCH

McNabb is washed-up.

In his prime, he could not do squat with a weak NFC, and weak NFC East.

he old,no leadership skills, no mental toughness.

thats why only Buffalo, Oakland, and the dumbass Redskins wanted him.

don't tell me sh*t about McNabb had no supporting cast.

what did Tom Brady have for a supporting cast when he won his 3 Super Bowls.

*crickets*

yep

>a QB that got you to 5 NFC title games and a SB appearance? I
>would expect that you make this move because you're going to
>be BETTER not decent. The fuck kind of 5 in hurdle shit was
>that? - lol
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>in 2012!!!!
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373. "Summary: Tom Brady >> McNabb... wow, insightful..."
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379. "Tom Brady >> McNabb = Lloy Carr >> Dick Rod...wow, insightful..."
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lol

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386. "so basically you admit you didn't really say nathan.. - lol"
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The fact that Tom Brady did more w/ less than McNabb means that Brady is better. WOW? Really? Who knew? - lol


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381. "o u mad"
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bwhahahahahahaha

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385. "why would I be mad when we kicked y'all asses 3Xs? - lol"
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377. "yeah see I'm really not expecting that to happen, they're going to get"
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at least one or two quality years out of him.

He still won't sniff a Super Bowl but dealing him in division just ends up being another soap opera I'd rather not here about twice a year.

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383. "Honest initial reaction: Worry or Optimism?"
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412. "neither, confusion, I would have taken this deal from most teams"
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but trading him to the team down 95 that we play twice a season is just a bit too Days-Of-Our-Lives for me.

But people thinking he & Shanny are all the sudden gonna have them contending for a chip are tripping.

It's Donovan McNabb, non-Pro Bowler for the past six seasons, playing for Dan Snyder.

If you're scared of this you might have been scared of the Eagles in the second half of this decade......and they ain't really done shit.

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368. "what is the long-term plan for the Redskins at QB, though?"
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seriously.

Campbell is gone now. sooner than later.

Grossman aint the answer.

McNabb got about 2 years tops.

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384. "^^reason why mcnabb is not in Eagles green^^"
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mcnabb is NOT going win a SB in washington this year or next....
so WHAT THE FUCK WAS THE POINT?
that's why the eagles parted ways
this dude is going want 15+ mil a season for like 3+ yrs
and u risk losing him to injury every year
watch every time he gets sacked redskins fans are gonna hold their breath , lmao
the eagles understand rebuilding for success
the redskins don't
that's why we have a young QB we groomed patiently and the redskins picks
meanwhile the redskins have QB they threw in the fire and set up to fail(campbell) and the eagles unwanted scraps
bahwhahahahhaha
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485. "that is mos def a hilarious Andy Reid pic"
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nm

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528. "Is that what all those SB titles say?"
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>the eagles understand rebuilding for success

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392. "One point of agreement: The NFC East shit talk will be phenomenal"
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396. "Kolb is on WIP right now. GOT DAMN he sound mature"
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lol he said he started smiling soon as he heard the news

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405. "thats kinda gangster"
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I respect that honesty... some guys would kiss McNabb's ass instead of saying they started smiling instantly

  

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409. "that'll endear him to the Phillyfags but it'll backfire."
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>lol he said he started smiling soon as he heard the news

once he starts throwing more INTs than Brett Favre and Vinny Testaverde combined.

  

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416. "o clawwy , what u gonna do when mcfagg is injured and kolb"
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is throwing for 350 yards a game

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426. "what are you gonna do when Kolb ends up Cutler's backup?"
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438. "lol @ you actively rooting for an Eagles quarterback to fail"
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why not just go find a new team when it gets to that point?

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442. "this is me holding up a mirror to SPM's wackass."
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>why not just go find a new team when it gets to that point?

and this is me replacing my Magneto Helmet...

remember. My agenda is anti-Reid > pro-wack.

  

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450. "it's funny cause u doing the same shit u accused me of doing wit TO"
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lol
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457. "accused?"
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NIGGA YOU DID THAT SHIT BLATANTLY!

OVER SOME BULLSHIT!

and now you about to see how wack that shit is. 10 fold.
Eagles posts are going to make Bulls posts look like happy fun time even more so with this coming season.

you better HOPE Kolb turns out to be good.
cause if he ends up sucking... LMAO.

  

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521. "RE: o clawwy , what u gonna do when mcfagg is injured and kolb"
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>is throwing for 350 yards a game

Funny, McNabb did exactly that in the SB with 3TDs and you still hated on his ass.
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418. "Doc you know the deal..."
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>>lol he said he started smiling soon as he heard the news
>
>once he starts throwing more INTs than Brett Favre and Vinny
>Testaverde combined.

Since no games are being played kolb is the fucking man now. He'll have moxie, cajoles, heart, etc... All that bullshit that doesn't really matter in the end. The best thing about kevin kolb is he's not mcnaab today. The folks who had an axe to grind with mcnaab are having their day. The kid has limited experience so folks are making stuff now to hype him up. Nothing said in a presser or a radio interview matters.

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422. "his career will be worse than mcnabb's but he will be solid"
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it's kinda funny because where before mcnabb and reid were kind of an item, now it's like cats wanna act like they are phil and kobe circa 04. they are basically one in the same, both of them are very, very good, upper echelon at their spots, but neither of them is going to give you the emotion it takes to get to the top.

this deal, from an unemotional perspective, you have to look at the trends favoring the eagles. reid is outstanding with QBs, he handpicked Kolb and brought him along slowly (a formula we've seen work for Dallas, Green Bay, et al) and we saw him perform pretty well in his first real starting duty.

and of course i've already discussed the eagles generally outstanding handicapping of a player's effectiveness and when it will expire.

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522. "he sound cocky. tawmbout 'i knew they would make it happen' word?"
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2nd round pick, playing behind the best qb *ever* to play in philly (no disrespect to randall) and one of the best players at his position in the league and this bamma talkin about he KNEW they would move mcnabb out the way for him?

i can't wait for kolb to go scott mitchell / AJ feely on 'em.

matt schaub, billy volek on 'em.

can't wait.

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403. "400+ replies in two days"
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This post could go diamond in week 1.

No empathy for white misery (c) BDot

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404. "this will get to 750 easy & probably 1k sometime during the season"
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413. "And I got a monopoly on the stocks. I'M RICH BITCH!"
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oh, there's no value to okaystocks...sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeit.

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419. "Farewell, Donovan, you are an Eagle great forever"
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I have a lot of mixed emotions but given the level of speculation and the circumstances surrounding the trade it's hardly a big shock or a letdown. If Dawkins was not going to retire an Eagle, no one was safe and the personnel has turned over to a much younger roster now.

Even with the injuries and some inconsistency, McNabb was a legit franchise QB. There have been maybe five or six of them during his decade in Philadelphia, really a rare commodity. He made the Eagles as interesting as any other quarterback we've ever had has and he did it for more years than guys like Jaws, Randall and Van Brocklin did.

It doesn't pain me to see him go to Washington because they are in the NFC East but it is disappointing because they have a shitty line and no receivers. Their offense is worse than the days of Stinkston and Trash, at least we had Staley and Lewis as reliable options.

One thing I will say about the trade on a positive note--aside from the obvious get something vs get nothing benefit and the money-saving side--is that the Eagles are probably the best in the league at handicapping a player's effectiveness.

Look at the significant players other than Dawkins (who had one good year and I pray has another) and Owens (who wasn't put out because of age) who have departed Philly:
-Troy Vincent, big deal with Buffalo, had to change positions, got cut, got signed for less, got cut again
-Bobby Taylor, huge contract with Seattle, never heard from again
-Hugh Douglas, took his last pay day, got cut, came back to Philly, will not go away no matter how many doughnuts we removed from the CSN green room
-Jeremiah Trotter, spurned a one year deal at competitive wage to sign longer with the Skins, got cut, came back, sorta retired, came back again
-Duce Staley, played well for the Steelers for a short while, got hurt, retired
-Tra Thomas, Jon Runyan, were already showing their age, maybe they come back to be effective again but I really doubt it

You can go on down the line, major players whom they have pegged as departures have gone on to fizzle out, in most cases immediately. That does not bode well for Washington, here you have a team that has masterfully moved guys a year early or right on time sending you their franchise player despite being in your division. And we know McNabb has had a bunch of injuries, too.

I hope he does well and we have two huge battles with the 'Skins this year but my prediction is that the Eagles win this trade. It's a good pick to get in return (though not great) and there is high potential that this move is a bust for DC. I mean, really, isn't there high potential for a bust ANY TIME DC makes a move???

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463. "Eagles FO/MNGT is pretty spot on with cutting/trading players"
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I don't see how anyone can downplay their effectiveness in that respect.

However, there are some guys (often forgotten) who have gone on and flourished elsewhere...Al Harris has had a pretty stellar career outside of Philly, Derrick Burgess blossomed in Oakland, BDawk showed he still had gas left in the tank, Allen Rossum was a great return man we certainly should have held on to longer, Charlie Garned fared well in Oakland.....There's others too. I think Philly fans often forget about those guys. However, all in all, the FO usually gets it right when cutting/releasing/trading our marquee players.

I do think McNabb has got at least 4 great seasons left in him. But, I'm fine with moving on with Kolb at this point. We just have to be really, really smart with this year's draft.

  

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479. "RE: Eagles FO/MNGT is pretty spot on with cutting/trading players"
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>However, there are some guys (often forgotten) who have gone
>on and flourished elsewhere...

Al Harris has had a pretty
>stellar career outside of Philly

Yeah but Harris was not let go because he was too old. I was speaking specifically to guys who have been moved because of age. Harris was a nickel back who commanded starting CB responsibility and would soon command starting CB money and lots of it. That worked out well for both sides.

Derrick Burgess blossomed in
>Oakland

He was also not let go because of age, money was tight and he had been injured frequently with Philly. The Eagles knew he was on top of his game, he was very good in the playoffs. But having gone all in for Kearse and Owens the money was not there even though Oakland ultimately got a steal with him for two years. Injuries have really nagged him since but yes I do agree that was a guy they let slip away although I don't think they let him walk dismissively either.


BDawk showed he still had gas left in the tank, Allen
>Rossum was a great return man we certainly should have held on
>to longer, Charlie Garned fared well in Oakland.....There's
>others too. I think Philly fans often forget about those
>guys. However, all in all, the FO usually gets it right when
>cutting/releasing/trading our marquee players.

Allen Rossum and Charlie Garner are the type of guys that move around all the time. They don't belong in the same breath with McNabb or a decision surrounding him. I know these guys and where they went and what they did, that is why I focused on significant players who signed considerable contracts elsewhere.

Looking at the guys you named, no one fits that bill with the exception of maybe Harris and that was not a matter of him getting old, he was clearly in the prime of his career.

>I do think McNabb has got at least 4 great seasons left in
>him. But, I'm fine with moving on with Kolb at this point. We
>just have to be really, really smart with this year's draft.

At least four!?! That's really lofty, man, I don't know if he even has one and if I were setting an over/under on seasons at the high level he's played at for ten years I would put it at two. This is not a guy without plenty of wear and tear on him. He ran early in his career, he's always held onto the ball and been willing to take hits and he has had a few significant injuries.

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446. "Seperate your emotions from this move for a second"
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You're the Eagles FO.....you are going to move Donovan this off-season, that's a fact. You know the team, as currently constructed, cannot win a Super Bowl and the window has shut(we did not beat ONE single team with a winning record last year).

You are presented with an offer of a great pick at a lower compensation level....you either wait it out and look for a better deal or you take this deal for a great pick and move on. Further, the fact that we did take this deal shows that the serious interest in Donovan was exaggerated...you are stuck between holding onto a QB with value far less than you expected and hoping someone offers a better package or you make this move, move on, and start fresh with a younger, promising QB in Kolb.

The fact that it was to the Skins is definitely irritating, but Donovan is not going to make their team suddenly into a contender unless they fill a lot of their other gaps....and them losing this pick means they have one less pick to fill those gaps while we can address one of ours.

As hard as it will be to see Donovan wear that red and white, the move is not a bad one if you take a step back and look at it long-term.

For all you dudes complaining about firing Reid and this and that, stop wasting your time on shit that we all know is not going to happen.

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452. "Without all the emotion that really is all there is..."
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>You're the Eagles FO.....you are going to move Donovan this
>off-season, that's a fact. You know the team, as currently
>constructed, cannot win a Super Bowl and the window has
>shut(we did not beat ONE single team with a winning record
>last year).
>
>You are presented with an offer of a great pick at a lower
>compensation level....you either wait it out and look for a
>better deal or you take this deal for a great pick and move
>on. Further, the fact that we did take this deal shows that
>the serious interest in Donovan was exaggerated...you are
>stuck between holding onto a QB with value far less than you
>expected and hoping someone offers a better package or you
>make this move, move on, and start fresh with a younger,
>promising QB in Kolb.
>
>The fact that it was to the Skins is definitely irritating,
>but Donovan is not going to make their team suddenly into a
>contender unless they fill a lot of their other gaps....and
>them losing this pick means they have one less pick to fill
>those gaps while we can address one of ours.
>
>As hard as it will be to see Donovan wear that red and white,
>the move is not a bad one if you take a step back and look at
>it long-term.
>
>For all you dudes complaining about firing Reid and this and
>that, stop wasting your time on shit that we all know is not
>going to happen.
>

Except this is philly & DC we are emotional. So 400+ posts of this back and forth. LOL

The good news is the eagles are rebuilding, the bad news is no one there wants to admit it publicly. But it's never been about what they say, but what they do. I'll miss #5, but I damn sure won't miss any of the drama that came with it.

We just needs to pray kolb is a franchise QB, desean can wait to get paid, and the draft yields more than trevor laws, matt mccoy, victor abiamiri, jack ikegwuono, or bryan smith this year.

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453. "you're pretty much right, still makes me uncomfortable but I get it"
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454. "I don't trust the Eagles FO. "
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or rather the gestalt that is Reid + (Puppet GM) + Banner + Lurie
after these last few years.

so we'll see how "promising" Kolb is, but I'm not getting in that tank unless I see a Cowboy sweep.

if he turns out to be trash... lololololololololol.

if Andy continues to avoid a balanced offense... lolololololololololololol.

business move or no, trading in division is unforgivable.

  

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461. "eagles FO is top 5 in the league, doc"
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why they did not go all in like with kearse and owens at least one other time i will never know and why they let dawkins walk is almost beyond me but apart from that they have done an excellent job. they have gone through no fewer than three defensive backfields, two and a half o-lines, a ton of turnover in the front 7, having no receivers to having one great one to now having a balanced bunch, etc. they cycle through players and manage to elevate their level of play or stay the same. even last year i would consider an achievement, i have never seen a team go through that much turnover and win double digit games. even if they overachieved (which they clearly did) that is not a knock against the org IMO.

there are little things that annoy me about the eagles but overall i think our fans are like horny ass dudes, just pressing too hard from not tasting paydirt for so long.

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470. "I reserve judgment. "
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>there are little things that annoy me about the eagles but
>overall i think our fans are like horny ass dudes, just
>pressing too hard from not tasting paydirt for so long.

but this much is true.

that the trade was with the Redskins, of all teams, just bothers the hell out of me. if it were any non-NFC East team... I'd be good.

but as dude up there said, I hope their drafting is more of the Maclin, Jackson, McCoy type, and less of the Abiamiri type.


  

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539. "the initial shock was bad, sure, but i think it signals that ..."
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the eagles don't think mcnabb has much left in the tank and since they are usually right about this it means we get a pretty good pick and they get a guy who is good now but will not be once they have the team put together around him. either we hooked washington up fat or we just totally sabotaged their organization. looking at the record of the eagles letting older players go--especially within the division/conference--and looking at the Skins' history of signing veterans at high prices, i think we can say the eagles may well have won this deal.

now whether or not they can put together a contender again with this group, i don't know. i am eager to see who they draft, too, i think they will gun for an impact defensive player with at least one of the two picks. not a plug-in starter, a real star.

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553. "Yall failing to Understand that McNabb dictated where he wanted"
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to go.

The Eagles got fucked when they gave McNabb a 2 year extention(they wanted to give him more years) but his agent said no knowing the eagles history or doing players dirty and trading them or cutting when they have many years left on their contract.

Oakland
Buffalo
Cleveland
Seattle
etc.

were not going to trade for McNabb with one year on his contract unless he gave the word to get a new contract hince Washington.

It ain't the fact that the Eagles don't respect Donovan's skills or were trying to do him a favor its the fact that Donovan and his agent outsmarted the Eagles and said no we will dictate where we want to go.

Its the ultimate f you and I love it. The Eagles are gonna get screwed because other than WR RB and QB what position has Andy drafted that was better than his inital draft picks or free agency signings or inherited players

SECONDARY TROY VINCENT BRIAN DAWKINS MICHAEL LEWIS BOBBY TAYLOR(were much better than Lito and Sheldon and any other safties they tried to fit in)

LBTrotter and Carlos Simmons(were the best Lbs Eagles had since Buddy Ryan days and Andy ain't found adequate replacements since)

DTCorey Simon and hollis thomas(where leaps and bounds better than any eagles DT tackles since)

RBwas an upgrade from Deuce but Shady is a step down he don't have the skill Westbrook had even in his decline)

The only position Andy and co have upgraded since his 12 years here is WR and it took them 10 years to really address the issue that kept them from winning at least 2 superbowls and what do they turn around and do trade the franchise QB.





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458. "I'm not even looking back at this point....I have faith in Kolb..."
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It just really pains me that I will never get to see McNabb hoist the Lombardi trophy....I mean, I was convinced for so long that it was a lock to happen--it was just a question of when....Well, now that chapter has been closed...

I was one of the few that was estatic when we drafted McNabb...I watched him closely when was at Syracuse (the last time they were relevant)and knew was gonna be something special. NO Eagle FAN can possibly complain about McNabb's service and dedication to this franchise. I just heard former TE Chad Lewis speak so highly of McNabb's character and work ethic. We really couldn't have asked for a better leader and face of the franchise. Sure he had his flaws, but he's only one man - the team always had quite a few to go around. I will certainly miss him dearly and wish him the best of luck in D.C.


  

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449. "lmao...they bout to extend him too"
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@SI_JimTrotter: League source: McNabb's reps and the #Redskins are discussing an extension that could be finalized this week

smh/lol

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451. "5 yrs 15 mil a year!!!!"
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yall bout to have a 1 legged 37 yr old QB in 2013
paying him top 5 QB money, lol

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455. "you know damn well, they ain't gonna pay all that shit."
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>yall bout to have a 1 legged 37 yr old QB in 2013
>paying him top 5 QB money, lol

  

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456. "it's lose/lose"
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either you traded a 2nd round pick for a 1 year rental or you give a multi-year deal to a 33 year old with injury problems playing behind a bad OL.

what a worthless fucking trade.

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467. "Maybe, but your team was pretty much worthless before he arrived."
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Let's not gloss over that fact. You guys have been sitting in the recycle bin for years. If you actually want to rebuild, the FIRST step that needs to be taken is renaming the team. Until then STFU....

Your hustle might get you knocked, why would I knock your hustle?

  

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468. "you haven't read a single thing I've written"
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473. "they were spending on a pick on a QB anyway"
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488. "that doesn't make it ok. both are stupid moves"
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515. "call the wahmbulance!"
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smuts on the scene!

  

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527. "har har"
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462. "it made no sense to trade #36 oveall for a one year rental"
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to me this makes the deal better for the skins and confirms the reports that mcnabb was excited about playing there.

that is important, trust me i have seen guys who get traded and don't wanna be in their new city and it's always a disaster no matter how professional or talented they are.

sure this increases washington's investment considerably but it also means they don't lose him in free agency this offseason and have wasted that pick on a rental in a non-competitive (SB-wise) year.

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477. "they're gonna overpay"
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I just know it.

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480. "oh really? is kobe bryant gonna lick his lips? EASY PREDICTION, DUDE"
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The Skins should change their name to the Washington Overspenders, and likely would if not for the potential intellectual property and trademark conflict with the U.S. congress.

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471. "i'm just happy i can be anti-philly AND pro-black. "
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476. "lol"
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484. "lol @ all the latent bird-fan anger over not having lombardi trophies..."
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like WE do!

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

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529. "^^^Sees it^^^"
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PSN ID: BDiesel

  

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486. "ok Smuts, these are the last five 37th overall picks"
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Alphonso Smith, Corner, Denver Broncos
Curtis Lofton, Linebacker, Atlanta Falcons
Eric Weddle, Safety, San Diego Chargers
Jimmy Williams, Corner, Atlanta Falcons
Shaun Cody, D Tackle, Detroit Lions

shit man, looks like we're really missing out on some special guys with that pick.

AND the opportunity is still there to trade back, trade Haynesworth, trade Campbell, trade Cooley.

We'll have more picks, trust.

  

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489. "You're smarter than this. I know you are."
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494. "its hit or miss dawg, and those are some hella misses"
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and I'm tryna tell you my man, we'll still end up with picks. Watch.

  

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509. "unicorns for everyone!"
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>we'll still end up with picks

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490. "that's kind of arbitrary"
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the last five players picked #9 overall sucked, got hurt, or are mediocre (B.J. Raji, Keith Rivers, Ted Ginn, Ernie Sims, Carlos Rogers, Reggie Williams): what, does that mean top ten picks are worthless?

Jarius Byrd was taken five spots after #37 last year. Lofton is a pretty good player, and in 2008 he was followed by guys like John Carlson, Tracy Porter, Eddie Royal, Matt Forte, DeSean Jackson and Ray Rice. 2007: Sidney Rice, LaMarr Woodley, David Harris and Steve Smith (NYG).

so in the end, a high second round pick is still pretty damn valuable. although I don't think this is such a bad trade for Washington, either.

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501. "shit, our team is essentially built on second-rounders right now"
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with DeSean & Kolb, not to mention the lynchpin of the team in the prior era (BDawk) was a second-rounder.

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507. "ur team sucks at drafting if its NOT like that"
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also you can sign early round prospects for longer so it always seems like your team is built on second round talent.....this entire thread is fucking stupid.


  

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513. "Dude, we got no leverage to get high picks with Campbell or AH...."
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Every sports writer has been saying it since the trade. Everyone knows we need to get rid of JC and AH is lazy with a mammoth contract.

Who's giving up a second or third rounder for either of them? You might get a 3rd for JC. But right now, it's gonna be EXTREMELY hard to replace our second and third round picks, which mean we only have one pick out of the first 100 in the draft.
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517. "you won't even get a 3rd for Campbell & no one will take AH's deal"
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518. "So many Redskins fans are lying to themselves right now"
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starting with TW

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532. "idk. the skins hold power over the best FA QB and Clausen"
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If Oak, Buf, Car, Cle want a QB, they gotta talk to us. Someone is gonna want to trade for his services or Clausens.

Plus Cooley is still redundant.

  

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533. "JC gets a 4th rounder at best."
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538. "1st rounder => http://i38.tinypic.com/2dmfku1.jpg"
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497. "http://www.autoracingdaily.com/images/blog/2010Daytona500lineup2.jpg"
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503. "why didnt they trade reid for a half eaten ham and cheese sammiche?"
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i dont understand how shit is put on mcnoodles when dude carried the team(that and letting jon runyan continue to hold strahan) for all those years....

eagles fans in philly are fucking stupid. or at least the ones on the radio are lol. not one of them said "fuck fat reid"

its his philosophies that fuck everything up.

i'll say this though. that mcdermont kid or whatever the fuck the DC is called can call a decent game. if that defense adds some talent they'll be dangerous.

  

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524. "this was a business decision & plenty of Eagle fans have expressed"
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their distaste with Andy Reid throughout the years but his power inside the organization is such that calling for his head is akin to a Knick fan saying they want a new owner, it's something you can wish for but it really isn't something you can expect.

McNabb still has a bit left but if you were ever going to get anything for him prior to him either getting a new deal for Top 5 QB money he's not worth next year trading him was kind of a necessary evil moving forward.

When McNabb truly was on the short list for elite quarterbacks in the first half of last decade, he was young & had the added element of his mobility to help him manufacture plays that weren't drawn up (the Monday Night game run that broke the long losing streak to your Giants in 2001, the 25-second-in-the-pocket play in the Monday Nighter versus the Cowboys, 4th-and-26th, the evisceration of the Bears at Soldier Field in the playoffs).

Now you have a guy who's 34 in the final year of his contract with an injury history prone to stretchs of inaccuracy trying to run this insane pass-happy offense & the results showed as he hadn't made a Pro Bowl since 2004.

I would have rather sent him to the Raiders where he couldn't hurt us but they didn't want to completely fuck him.

I respect what he's done for the franchise but it's the nature of the business.

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508. "crazy ass Snyder wants a championship THIS year"
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and for once i think his 'buy a championship' gimmick might be closer than it's ever been to accomplishing that.

Hail to the Redskins!

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512. "After reading all the comments, I still think this is a good trade"
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but I definitely see where all the skins fans are concerned about giving up picks.

WHat I do find hilarious is the level of disrespect that Eagles fans have for Redskins. Half of the Eagles fans are scolding Redskins fans like, shut up losers and take McNabb and be happy!

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520. "this poast is FANtastic! (c) old nba commercials. its a 'genda Tsunami"
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the tectonic plates of hate are smashing into each other and causing new rifts and opening up underwater ether volcanoes.

i love it.


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mrhood75
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523. "Peter King: Eagles possibly targeting Tebow (link/partial swipe)"
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It's Peter King, so take it for what it's worth (he also mentions the other and better QB prospects). And it's buried at the end of the article. Here's the relevant swipe:

"• Tim Tebow, Jimmy Clausen, Colt McCoy ... and maybe Dan LeFevour and John Skelton. I said a couple of weeks ago that the Eagles had sent offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg and quarterback coach James Urban to Fordham to scout mid-round prospect Skelton at his Pro Day. I have heard the Eagles will now focus on Tebow and are likely to join the parade of teams working him out and spending time with him. With seven picks in the first four rounds, Philadelphia has the ammo to go get the developmental quarterback Reid always likes to have on his roster. So don't think they won't be in play for one of these players."

And here's the full link:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/peter_king/04/05/mcnabb/index.html

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525. "just King being King, won't even dignify that until it actually happened"
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and then I will kill them for it.

Anyone drafting Tebow in the first four rounds is essentially throwing a pick away to me.

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537. "yea they are talking about the eagles drafting Skelton late around here"
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kinda like how the giants drafted lorenzon even tho they had eli and knew he was the franchise

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544. "this is bullshit, but GOT DAMMIT...."
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...if in the 1-in-a-million chance that Tim Tebow is drafted by the Eagles I will officially say "fuck 'em" for the entire time he is on the roster

fuck that shit, fam


...no.

I swear to the Matrix I'd rather have Tony Romo on the Eagles.

  

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526. "This post is gonna be the gift that keeps on giving"
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all season.

I'm almost willing to skip my glorious summer just to get to the games.

  

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540. "We all need to show up in for a few NFC East games.."
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The hate would be vanglorious...
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<---- but but but the Mayan Calendar said the world will end in 2012!!!!

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541. "^"
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<---- but but but the Mayan Calendar said the world will end in 2012!!!!

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545. "lol, good to see the McNabb Martyr Complex is still intact (swipe)"
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first Dono's corny 'Book Of Donovan' take, now Sam here, all we need is a bittersweet blog from Wilma:

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/20100408_McNabb_s_father_marvels_at_timing_of_son_s_Easter_trade.html

Donovan McNabb's father probably would have preferred that his son not get traded on Easter Sunday, but the timing was not lost on him.

"Absolutely, it meant something," Sam McNabb told USA Today. "We were celebrating Jesus' resurrection, right? Then we turn around and Donovan gets resurrected. Just perfect."

Sam later said that what Donovan experienced in Philadelphia will only help him as he moves to the Redskins and a new chapter in what the quarterback called "the Book of Donovan."

"There is no testimony without having gone through a test," Sam McNabb said. "My motto is, 'You have to go through some things to get to some things.' What he went through in Philadelphia will probably help him get to what he really wants.

"Remember what our ancestors would tell us growing up? They said, 'Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger.' "

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549. "Donovan's message for the Philadelphia fans"
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Donovan McNabb: 'I'd Like To Thank The Ungrateful, Over-Expecting,Oftentimes-Racist Fans Of Philadelphia'

WASHINGTON—During an emotionally charged press conference Monday, newly minted Redskins quarterback Donovan McNabb expressed gratitude to the unappreciative, abusive, and intolerant fans of the Philadelphia Eagles for their total lack of support over the years. "I'd like to thank all the Eagles fans who were always there to demand the whole world from me every week, who expected me to do everything with almost nothing, and who blamed me for the team's every failure," said the six-time Pro Bowler, who also apologized for his failure to shore up the Eagles defense and his inability to keep Brian Westbrook healthy while leading the team to five NFC championship games. "I can't thank them enough for the constant insults or tell you what their lack of support meant to me when Rush Limbaugh made racist comments about me. My only regret, besides every fucking awful moment of the past 11 years, is that I couldn't give these people what they wanted most: drafting Ricky Williams back in 1999. No fans deserved it more." McNabb then wished probable Eagles starting QB Kevin Kolb luck winning the next 25 Super Bowls "because nothing else will be enough," gave all Philly fans the finger "because I can't give them all cancer," sighed with pleasure, and went to turn in his Eagles playbook to the Redskins' defensive coordinators.

  

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550. "ONIONS!"
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551. "Sources: McNabb open to TO reunion"
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http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5118016


This mfer calling for back up. lol.

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stop at the light mayne,
my yester night thang got me hung off the night train "

  

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552. "BWAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!"
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"Inspectah Deck, he's like...he's like that dude thatta sit back and watch you play yourself and all that right? And see you sit there and know you lyin; and he'll take you to court after that, cuz he the Inspectah."

  

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