OK, let's get this started. The draft order and list of reps are below, please enter your team name and name of your pick in the subject line, and any commentary below. Cleveland, you're on the clock. Also, mods, can this get an anchor?

REPS LIST
Atlanta - ne_atl
Boston - 9duce7
Chicago - LiquidDope
Cleveland - MrSco
Dallas - B9
Denver - KingKahn
Detroit - ErnestLee
Golden State - way2saucee
Houston - Binlahab
Indiana - calminvasion
LA Clippers - haj20
LA Lakers - El_essence
Memphis - MrJames65
Miami - soundsop
Milwaukee - kobe085
Minnesota - marauder21
New Jersey - theothursday
New Orleans - Bombastic or Zeno or both (work that shit out, fellas)
New York - Organ
Orlando - seveneleven19
Philly - bshelly
Phoenix - KCPlayer21
Portland - cityismine
Sacramento - Bohemian_Bomb
San Antonio - shp or benny
Seattle - solidant
Toronto - yuckwheat
Utah - rawlakid
Washington - DonKnutts

DRAFT ORDER
FIRST ROUND
1. Cleveland
2. Detroit (from Memphis)
3. Denver
4. Toronto
5. Miami
6. L.A. Clippers
7. Chicago
8. Milwaukee (from Atlanta)
9. New York
10. Washington
11. Golden State
12. Seattle
13. Memphis (from Houston)
14. Seattle (from Milwaukee)
15. Orlando
16. Boston
17. Phoenix
18. New Orleans
19. Utah
20. Boston (from Philadelphia)
21. Atlanta (from Indiana)
22. New Jersey
23. Portland
24. L.A. Lakers
25. Detroit
26. Minnesota
27. Memphis (from Sacramento through Orlando)
28. San Antonio
29. Dallas


SECOND ROUND
30. Cleveland
31. New York (from Denver)
32. L.A. Lakers (from Toronto)
33. Miami
34. L.A. Clippers
35. Milwaukee (from Memphis)
36. Chicago
37. Atlanta
38. Washington
39. New York
40. Golden State
41. Seattle
42. Orlando
43. Milwaukee
44. Houston
45. Chicago (from Phoenix)
46. Denver (from Boston)
47. Utah
48. New Orleans
49. Indiana
50. Philadelphia
51. New Jersey
52. Toronto (from L.A. Lakers)
53. Miami (from Detroit)
54. Portland
55. Minnesota
56. Sacramento
57. Dallas
58. Detroit (from San Antonio)


"People make their jokes, and say we're off to see the Wizard
But me and Dorothy and Toto's on yo' ass when you visit"
-Kansas City's own Tech N9ne

We the children of the Light, you know what I mean?
That's why I'm hating on the darkness like Paula Deen
Cause in my hood they masked up like it's Halloween
We going hard for the Rock, but we not some fiends
- Andy Mineo

i'll do this like i did with the , if your reply is not a draft pick or commentary about said draft pick, it will be deleted...worked last time, let's see if we can get it right again.

thank you.

I dont think Sco will mind.

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King James arrives in Ohio



But let me get on with my story so that all of y'all can peep
I'm on my block right, known as cloverdale
Playin' 2K2 while I'm talkin' on my cell well
While I'm inside eyes glued to the screen
CRASH rolls on my homies with the Thursday routine
What's your name, where you goin', where you been, where you from
We say the same thing while they just play dumb - Murs

okplayer Ever on hip hop shows:

"Ever: Only at a fukin' backpacker show do you find beautiful girls who don't get hit on by the guys.

Alfred:I know, Lame ass backpackers prolly

LOL...that was the easiest pick in years!

"You think I'm this nice in real life? FUCK THAT, SON! It's 'cause I'm on TV. I'm wild! I'll pull my balls out right now...I DON'T CARE!!! Skeet, skeet, skeet, SKEET!"

"Thank you for coming out. God Bless you. Good night."

Been going through some things lately and been unable to post. Feel free to take the second round too. Obviously Lebron was a no-brainer.


Most underrated player on these here boards.
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"My S.I.G is on this screen, people always ask wtf does that mean?
S is for the suckas who just can't see, a brotha like me up in OKP.
I is for the way I log in and out, so my boss don't know what I'm talking about.
G is for the way I'm in General Discussion. Lesson, Artist, Sports, others that I be touchin.
Postin on till the break of dawn, check the av, check the post, check the sig, I'M GONE!
What??? There ain't no more to it."

Most underrated player on these here boards.
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Just cant pass on the potential. Carmellos great and will probably have the more immediate impact but the "upside" is too hard to pass on. Plus he fits what we need. Scoring down low with the ability to go outside and boards, boards, boards!!

KingKahn youre on the clock.

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lol. He is a great presence on your team. He will give Ben Wallace some much needed help in the paint.





But let me get on with my story so that all of y'all can peep
I'm on my block right, known as cloverdale
Playin' 2K2 while I'm talkin' on my cell well
While I'm inside eyes glued to the screen
CRASH rolls on my homies with the Thursday routine
What's your name, where you goin', where you been, where you from
We say the same thing while they just play dumb - Murs

okplayer Ever on hip hop shows:

"Ever: Only at a fukin' backpacker show do you find beautiful girls who don't get hit on by the guys.

Alfred:I know, Lame ass backpackers prolly

A NEED pick that has the potential for great things...

"You think I'm this nice in real life? FUCK THAT, SON! It's 'cause I'm on TV. I'm wild! I'll pull my balls out right now...I DON'T CARE!!! Skeet, skeet, skeet, SKEET!"

"Thank you for coming out. God Bless you. Good night."

What happens if some of the early entry candidates (Jameer Nelson, Mo Williams...to name a few) pull their names out of the draft? They've got until June 19th to do so...how will that effect our mock draft?

"You think I'm this nice in real life? FUCK THAT, SON! It's 'cause I'm on TV. I'm wild! I'll pull my balls out right now...I DON'T CARE!!! Skeet, skeet, skeet, SKEET!"

"Thank you for coming out. God Bless you. Good night."

Duh.

Yuckwheat, you're on the clock

hey, i was leaning towards chris bosh, but i just read this insider article (below) on the big siberian, and thought it'd be nice to shake things the fuck up...

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The ultimate out-of-nowhere story
By Chad Ford
NBA Insider
Send an Email to Chad Ford



CHICAGO -- The giant is out of the bag.


Sleeping Giant
Until last December, when Insider Chad Ford heard the tale of a mysterious big-man discovered in Siberia and stashed in Varese, Italy, to develop, few people in the NBA had even heard of Pavel Podkolzine.

But between Ford's story then and his visit to Italy for a first-hand look last month, Podkolzine went from anonymous to the top of the charts.

Dec. '02: Big men, tall tales

May '03: Meet goliath

Two hundred NBA scouts and GMs crammed into the Gold Coast Multiplex on Friday to watch 7-foot-4, 300 pound Siberian center Pavel Podkolzine's first workout. The obscure 18-year-old big man whom no one had heard of six months ago went from the ultimate sleeper to a top-10 lock in slightly more than 40 minutes.

"Holy sh--!" one NBA GM told Insider. "He's amazing."

"I don't believe what I just saw," another GM told Insider. "That's the most potent combination of size, strength and agility I've seen since Shaq."

"I was a skeptic when I read all the reports about him on Insider," another GM began. "I love the international kids, but I thought things were getting out of hand with Pavel. I'm converted now. That's one amazing prospect right there."

"What does Yao Ming do that he doesn't?" another GM said. "Yao's feel for the game at this point is much better, but from a physical standpoint, he's more explosive."


Podkolzine
Podkolzine aced his first test in the NBA. He shot the ball extremely well, threw coach Billy Bayno around in the post like a rag doll and ran the floor like a guard.

Almost everyone in attendance quickly drew comparisons between Pavel and a young, agile Arvydas Sabonis.

"People in the NBA don't remember Sabonis when he was young," one international scout said. "They only remember the slow version. Pavel seems to have all of those same skills at the enormous size. If he develops a real feel for the game, you will see him dominate the NBA for 15 years."

For those of you still skeptical about the big fella's NBA potential consider this. Of the 20 or so team executives I talked to after the workout, none of them projected Podkolzine to last past No. 10.

" If I'm Carmelo Anthony, I'm sweating right now. Based on potential, he's right up there with LeBron and Darko. "
— An NBA GM, on Podkolzine
Some think he'll go much higher.

"He'll go anywhere from four to seven," one GM said.

"He won't get past six," said another.

One really went out on a limb. "If I'm Carmelo Anthony, I'm sweating right now. Based on potential, he's right up there with LeBron and Darko."

Indeed, after the workout, the Denver Nuggets were among the plethora of teams calling Pavel's agent, Justin Zanick, trying to schedule a private workout. Ironicaly, Carmelo met Podkolzine in the hotel lobby when Podkolzine checked in. Carmelo looked up (way up) and just said, "Damn!"

Zanick, a new NBA agent who used to work for super-agent Mark Bartelstien, also went from obscurity to one of the most powerful agents in this year's draft overnight. After the workout, he couldn't talk for two minutes without being interrupted by a team trying to arrange to see Podkolzine again.

Most won't get the chance. The buzz is so high on Podkolzine right now, Zanick is thinking of shutting down his workouts.

Podkolzine will take the NBA physical today, then begin a tour of lottery teams interested in him. Whether he actually works out during those visits remains to be seen.

He'll be in Memphis on Tuesday. Milwaukee the next day, New York on Thursday, Miami either Friday or next Saturday, and in L.A. to meet with the Clippers on June 15. The Nuggets, Raptors and Bulls also will get visits.


At 7-foot-4, Podkolzin has size and mobility, but he lacks game experience.
Of course, everyone is taking this workout with a grain of salt. It revealed nothing about court IQ, the ability to be physical with stronger, more athletic players, or game-time savvy. Podkolzine played a total of 120 minutes last year in Varese. That's three full games. In other words, everyone understands he's a project -- a guy a couple years away from having a big impact in the league. But with those type of physical skills, it appears teams are willing to take the risk.

With his buyout taken care of, and concerns about his ankle dispelled, Podkolzine has a great chance of being the second international player taken in the draft. With Darko Milicic, France's Mickael Pietrus (Bulls GM John Paxson just flew over to France to get a second look) and Poland's Maciej Lampe also generating a lot of buzz, it appears a record four international players will be selected in the lottery.

Podkolzine is surprised at all of the attention. "I can't believe how many people came to see me?" he said. "I thought, like, 10 people will be in this gym. I don't even play this year."

Pavel claims he got nervous when the stampede of NBA scouts flooded into the gym. It didn't show on the court. "I wanted to go and shake everyone's hand," he said. "But there is too many. Many, many people came. I just hope I was worth the time."

After the workout, Podkolzine's attention turnsed to food and shopping. He skipped his usual pizza for some more American-style fare. "I'm not Italian anymore," he says with a big grin. "Now I'm American."

After lunch, he was anxious to hit Niketown, hoping to find some Michael Jordan wear. It's impossible to find that stuff in Italy, and even the store manager isn't sure they make things big enough for a 7-foot-4 kid. After some serious searching, they finally find some gear big enough. Size? XXXXXL.

Everywhere he goes, people flock to him. He takes the time to stop and talk to each person. The smile didn't leave his face all day. Even off the court he seems shocked with all of the attention.

For all of his special qualities on the court, Pavel's best attributes may be off it. He's kind, warm and humble. He has no idea who he is or what he could become.

"He is a gift from God," adviser and former coach Gianni Chipparo said after the workout. "Pavel is a great kid. He works hard, and he just wants to get better. He has the chance to be very special on the court. Off the court? He's already arrived."

n/m

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Wow I somehow completely missed this pick
I was thinking about taking him with NY at #9
I would have looked like an idiot

Knicks yo
Cowboys yo

http://sports.espn.go.com/nbadraft/d03/story?id=1570460

...so i guess you repick, eh?

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but that fucks up everything, so forget about it.

shoulda gone with Chris Bosh, like the Raptors did. LOL

peace



Strung like a chicken, chase my tail like a doggie
She was kind of like a star, thinking I was like a fan
Dude, she looked good, down side: she had a man

okplayer Ever on hip hop shows:

"Ever: Only at a fukin' backpacker show do you find beautiful girls who don't get hit on by the guys.

Alfred:I know, Lame ass backpackers prolly

I'm not really sold on Bosh, but this is the NBA Draft and it's all about drafting on potential. He's a big man with good range (shot 45%+ from 3) but he's definitely not afraid to bang (really good shooting pct, 9 boards per game). And a 6-10 guy who actually likes getting it on down low is becoming a rare commodity these days.

In making the pick, I pretty much didn't take the Heat roster or off-season moves into account one bit. Why should I waste a pick on a scrub like Kaman just because Zo is leaving? Drafting based on need over skills this high in the draft is how shit like Bowie going ahead of Jordan happens.

The only other player I seriously considered was T.J. Ford. I'm woefully ignorant of the Europeans and none of the other Americans strike me as future stars. However, Ford's shooting scares me a little and in the year of the point guard I might be able to nab a good one at 33 anyway (whoops, did I just give away my strategy?).

The Clippers are on the clock.

Andre Miller has said that he wasnt going to resign with the clippers, so with him leaving why not take Ford?...I was thinking maybe Mickael Pietrus (SG), but I'm hoping Maggette gets signed...the clippers need a Center too, but i'm not sold on Kaman, or any white (american) center.

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Poor TJ...

"You think I'm this nice in real life? FUCK THAT, SON! It's 'cause I'm on TV. I'm wild! I'll pull my balls out right now...I DON'T CARE!!! Skeet, skeet, skeet, SKEET!"

"Thank you for coming out. God Bless you. Good night."

http://www.inpuj.net/~b9/draft.rtf

i'll try and update it once a day or so, but i'm going on a much needed vacation on tuesday so i may fall off a bit since i'll be away from my paid-posting. Also, this was done in mac texteditor for the sake of simplicity, i'm not sure if it'll load on pc...
i saw some confusion in the NFL draft, thought we'd try to avoid some of that.
Pavel Podkovin?

The Chicago Bulls select Jarvis Hayes, G/F from the University of Georgia.


I really like Hayes. He's got great size for a swingman (6'7", 220 with potential to carry about 240 on his frame). Possibly the best shooter in this draft class. Will play D. Kinda reminds me of Ron Artest w/ a better jumpshot and w/o the insanity and severe lack of intelligence (not AS good of a defender as Artest, but can stick his man in a one-on-one situation). Is a little bit of a reach at seven, but I think he's the player that fits the best with the Bulls.

Fits a need, and I guess trading down in this set-up isn't an option.

is that possible?

>is that possible?

Im sure teams with two picks in the late 1st round or second could trade up. I dont see a problem with that. Any objections??

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"People make their jokes, and say we're off to see the Wizard
But me and Dorothy and Toto's on yo' ass when you visit"
-Kansas City's own Tech N9ne

We the children of the Light, you know what I mean?
That's why I'm hating on the darkness like Paula Deen
Cause in my hood they masked up like it's Halloween
We going hard for the Rock, but we not some fiends
- Andy Mineo

What about the puppy dog, oops, glen robinson!?
Or can Hayes play Sg too?

it is because of the beauty, that is why a woman holds her breasts when shen runs, not because the breast is going to fall - Fella Kuti

Shit, my bad, saw it as a hawks pick
Bulls are right on the $ with that if
the dispatch rose's ass.

it is because of the beauty, that is why a woman holds her breasts when shen runs, not because the breast is going to fall - Fella Kuti

His name Dwayne Wade.

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what's the talk of the sophomore jinx?

What happened to Josh????

Peace

Wendell

Peace

Wendell

He's an undersized two guard who needs the ball in his hands on every possession to be effective. The Bulls need a swingman who's a decent defender on the ball and has a little range on his jumper. Jarvis fills that hole nicely. Don't worry BJ, your guy might still be available when we're on the clock in the second round.

although i thought about dwade at this spot, i just figured the 7 footer had too much size to turn down, and at only 18 he has a huge upside... time the bucks make up for trading dirk...
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UW
bored in wisconsin since 1981...

aol: quantumb8

"but this is the Matrix, a movie clearly about karate kicking people to death." -BigWorm

in case some didn't know, the Knicks and Organ are on the clock.....


"People make their jokes, and say we're off to see the Wizard
But me and Dorothy and Toto's on yo' ass when you visit"
-Kansas City's own Tech N9ne

We the children of the Light, you know what I mean?
That's why I'm hating on the darkness like Paula Deen
Cause in my hood they masked up like it's Halloween
We going hard for the Rock, but we not some fiends
- Andy Mineo

Yup, I have been touting him as the NY pick for the last two months and I believe that NY is where he is(should be headed)
Lets be truthful here
NY is in the shitbox and they have no business in even thinking about the safe pick(Mike Sweetney, Chris Kaman)
Now is as good as any time for them to do this
Fuck picking safe, NY needs to treat this like a lottery for real and take a chance on an enormous sized 18 year old kid from Greece and hope he develops into an explosive exciting player that can give them some much needed energy on that frontcourt
Dude has potential and I think he is going to be a good NBA player
He is about 6'9 300 pounds, but for the most part that shit is muscle
Other picks I were considering here were Sweetney,Kaman, and Pavel Podkolzine
And, a lot of people think that pg is a huge need for Ny and I will let yall know why I didn't address that
Frank Williams was our 1st rounder last year and we still do not know what he is capable of doing
Also, Milos Vujanic should be headed over to NY in 2004
And(the last reason)
Speedy Claxton is going to be a free agent after this season is over
If NY wants to address a need for pg they should chase after him and use the draft pick on something else
In the 2000 draft we were two picks away from getting Claxton (Toronto wasnt going to take him)and the bitch ass sixers fucked that up for us
Bring him to his rightful place damnit

Coincidentally, an articel about Schortsanitis appeared in the NY post today
http://nypost.com/sports/knicks/58541.htm

Knicks yo
Cowboys yo

n/m

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And in a related announcement, the Knicks hire Patrick Ewing as an assistant coach.

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One Hundred.

w/ cato & mobley & collins to get in the 1st rd...any takers?


(can we do this?)


Bin The Unmerciful

'in pursuing excellence, man appreciates the supreme good and thus finds happiness.'
-socrates

http://www.theepicureans.com

on sabbatical.

does it really matter?

wonder what bin's doing?
http://i.imgur.com/phECCMp.jpg

>w/ cato & mobley & collins to get in the 1st rd...any
>takers?
>
>
>(can we do this?)
>
>
>Bin The Unmerciful
>
>'in pursuing excellence, man appreciates the supreme good
>and thus finds happiness.'
>-socrates
>
>http://www.theepicureans.com
I dont know if whoever is running the show is allowing trades, but if there are trades we need to use this
http://www3.realgm.com/src_tradechecker.php
that will tell us if trades are possible and if team x has enough cap room to make a trade like that
it is a trade simulator
Check the shit out

Knicks yo
Cowboys yo

Bin The Unmerciful

'in pursuing excellence, man appreciates the supreme good and thus finds happiness.'
-socrates

http://www.theepicureans.com

on sabbatical.

does it really matter?

wonder what bin's doing?
http://i.imgur.com/phECCMp.jpg

>Bin The Unmerciful
>
>'in pursuing excellence, man appreciates the supreme good
>and thus finds happiness.'
>-socrates
>
>http://www.theepicureans.com
use it for the players involved if you trade with another team and that way we can find out if the other team can afford it
I dont think hat draft picks count against the cap so they dont matter when trying to determine whether a trade can fit under the cap
You can just throw in the player with the cheapest sallary on the other team to find out the cap situation and if you want to trade your pick and players just for a pick alone
Or yall could take it further and do a trade that involves picks and players
But of course, this is only if trades are allowed

Knicks yo
Cowboys yo

Better yet, you run the draft for the Knicks!!!!

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One Hundred.

>Better yet, you run the draft for the Knicks!!!!
hey,go to nyknicks.com and you can send Layden a question about the draft
We should harass him until he quits

Knicks yo
Cowboys yo

Several questions:

1) Have you contacted the Wizards about bringing Patrick Ewing in as an assistant?

a) if we are drafting size (which we should be) I believe Ewing would be good mentor.
b) Pat should be back in New York working for the Knickerbockers- he is a Knick for life.
c) It would be a way to further mend his messy exit and good PR for you (FYI: You need good PR right now)

2) Sofoklis or Sweetney? (did you see Sweetney's wingspan from the physical? Very Elton Brand like and the game is there) Whom do you prefer?

3) Has Frederic Weis decided to join us yet?

4) If he is available, PUH-LEEZ nab Troy Bell in the second round- his game would be a good change of pace from Frank Williams game.

5) Do we still have any salaries on the books like LJs?


I hope that you make some good decisions because this year, Chaney cannot be a scapegoat if we don't field a playoff caliber team. I am not expecting a trip to the finals
but I would like to see a team that has the competitive spirit evident in last-year's squad, with the talent and depth to get into the playoffs.

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One Hundred.

please, please take him.

way2saucee youre on the clock.

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Gil, it was nice knowing you. As much as I would like to use this pick to draft a center like Chris Kaman, I don't see Gilbert Arenas staying with the Warriors, and Jason Kidd coming home won't happen with the Warriors cap situation. I actually had a difficult time picking between Hinrich, Ridnour, Gaines, and Barbosa, but Hinrich is pretty polished and should help the team right away.
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"I slang rocks - But Palestinian style" - The Coup "The Shipment"

"I’m like shot clocks, Interstate cops, and blood clots, my point is your flow gets stop." -Black Star "Hater Players"

Am I the only one here who feels guilty about liking R. Kelly's song "ignition (rmx)"?

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roll on you Bears....

he's not spectacular...nor will he fill seats. however, the warriors already have that in jameson and richardson. they need that guy to keep them on the ground and i think you're right with hinrich. plus, he gives them some clutch outside shooting that they really need. j-rich hits the outside shot but is very streaky.

like u, i hate to see gil leave. he's an overachiever and has the aggressiveness that jameson just does not. but we have to be realistic. unless the almight intervenes, there's no way arenas will stay. what sucks is that they can't even sign and trade cuz they can't sign him for enough.

Isn't Troy Bell available?

"I ain't no perfect man/ I'm trying to do, the best that I can/ With what it is I have"
- Mos Def

Posters in High Griffinition.

Don't think-FEEEEEEEEEEEEEL! © Bruce Lee

nbadraft.net had Bell going in the second round. For the most part, I see Ford and Hinrich as the top two pgs, with Ford taken, I figured Hinrich was the best option with the 11th pick.
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"I slang rocks - But Palestinian style" - The Coup "The Shipment"

"I’m like shot clocks, Interstate cops, and blood clots, my point is your flow gets stop." -Black Star "Hater Players"

Am I the only one here who feels guilty about liking R. Kelly's song "ignition (rmx)"?

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roll on you Bears....

with practically all our centers and forwards playing like shooting guards, has a chance to be THE MAN inside (at least offensively)...has size like elton brand and hopefully a game and work ethic to match.

MrJames65 of memphis is on the clock.

"Push out the jive...bring in the love."
-C. Montgomery Burns

to see this guy go to golden state instead. i like his game. but with arenas going, i'm sure they'll take a guard. however, do u really think he'll fit in in seattle? aren't they already overstocked with big guys?

yeah, crappy big guys. here's the roll call:

calvin booth: sucks a camel's ass. he wins this team's "vin baker money pit" award.
elden campbell: strangely, got almost no PT on a pivot-starved team. will probably leave.
peja drobnjak: can shoot outside but scares absolutely no one, except for little kids.
reggie evans: has potential to become ben wallace lite but has no offense whatsoever. lacks height.
jerome james: gotta keep him away from the krispy kreme. has center skills but needs his head screwed on straighter.
vitaly potapenko: bland.
vladimir radmanovic: would rather lob threes than work it inside (which seems to work, so i'll not complain)

as it stands, the only one on the list who provides a post "threat" is james (we haven't had a consistent inside presence since the old vin). we need much more than that, and i think sweetney can provide it for us through lots of hustle points and rebounds while ray and rashard shoot away.

"Push out the jive...bring in the love."
-C. Montgomery Burns

6'6" shooting guard, France.

The scouting reports have pietrus as the most athletic of the euros and arguably the most athletic 2 in the draft. The Grizz have an athletic frontcourt w/ miller, swift, wright, gasol, and batiste.
The really don't have a dribble penetrator w/ athleticsm that can break down defenses. Battier and Wes Person don't scare people off the dribble and that hurts Gasol's effectiveness in the post.
I dunno about his defense, which seems to be the Grizz' biggest problem. If their looking to go up-tempo, tho, this could be the guy.

I looked at centers, but they're stiffs and I'm not sold on that Kaman kid at all.

I'm looking to trade the 27th pick if someone will take either shane battier, ryan humphrey, and/or brevin knight.

solidant and the Sonics are back on the clock

I know this is late, but after consulting with the co-commish ErnestLee, we have decided that we will allow trades of draft picks ONLY. With the salary cap and all the issues it brings up, it will slow up the draft and create headaches for people to try to trade picks and players. So again, only draft picks can be traded. With that said, if you have 2 picks later in the draft, Phoenix is interested in trading it's pick at #17.


"People make their jokes, and say we're off to see the Wizard
But me and Dorothy and Toto's on yo' ass when you visit"
-Kansas City's own Tech N9ne

We the children of the Light, you know what I mean?
That's why I'm hating on the darkness like Paula Deen
Cause in my hood they masked up like it's Halloween
We going hard for the Rock, but we not some fiends
- Andy Mineo

i was very tempted to pick leandrinho barbosa here (especially with all the comparisons to GP), but ultimately went with ridnour because:
1) barbosa is a big ol' project
2) we need point guard help right now (the west isn't getting any easier to play in)
3) ridnour has the tools to be a solid steve nash-type 1
4) ridnour, a local product, will get at least some butts into empty keyarena seats (friends, family, groupies)

so yeah...ridnour at 14th.

seveneleven19 of orlando is on the clock.

"Push out the jive...bring in the love."
-C. Montgomery Burns

I was hoping to draft Schortsanitis, so Kaman will have to do....anybody is better than DeClercq and Kemp


9duce7 is on the clock....

Gaines is a solid player who can play both guard positions. This pick addresses our need for a point guard. He has great size and athleticism. He passes well and is able to score in bunches. He has a quick first step and isn’t afraid to take his man to the hole, he’s able to finish strong in traffic. He has good vision and can get the ball to the open man. I read a stat that in one game he didn’t score for the first 30 minutes, and ended up with 26 for the game, so he is capable of going on scoring binges. I think he’s a solid player and will be a very good NBA player. I was tempted to go with the kid from Brazil, but I felt Gaines was a safer pick.

Phoenix(KCPlayer) is up next the the 17th pick.

a 6-11 power forward from Senegal. We were trying to get a trad with the Lakers for their #24 and #32 picks, but it didn't work out. Badiane seemed like a good pick to solidify a frontcourt with Amare and Shawn Marion to contend with the great forwards in the Western Conference. I really wanted to pick an American player, but after reading the Chicago camp info on this guy from ESPN.com, he seems like he could be the truth. On the other hand, he could be a huge bust. But the NBA draft has become a big crap shoot now, you hope that you hit 7 or 11 every time you roll.


"People make their jokes, and say we're off to see the Wizard
But me and Dorothy and Toto's on yo' ass when you visit"
-Kansas City's own Tech N9ne

We the children of the Light, you know what I mean?
That's why I'm hating on the darkness like Paula Deen
Cause in my hood they masked up like it's Halloween
We going hard for the Rock, but we not some fiends
- Andy Mineo

;-)

hindsight is 20/20....


"People make their jokes, and say we're off to see the Wizard
But me and Dorothy and Toto's on yo' ass when you visit"
-Kansas City's own Tech N9ne

We the children of the Light, you know what I mean?
That's why I'm hating on the darkness like Paula Deen
Cause in my hood they masked up like it's Halloween
We going hard for the Rock, but we not some fiends
- Andy Mineo

there are still other options.

n/m

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Nick Collison of Kansas.

Yeah it's the chalk pick, no I don't remember the last KU white big man to make an impact in this league....it still makes sense for what they need.

But with Tim Floyd coaching, it's better to take a seasoned player with a track record from a big program than a project.

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I think that Nick will do well in the league...


"People make their jokes, and say we're off to see the Wizard
But me and Dorothy and Toto's on yo' ass when you visit"
-Kansas City's own Tech N9ne

We the children of the Light, you know what I mean?
That's why I'm hating on the darkness like Paula Deen
Cause in my hood they masked up like it's Halloween
We going hard for the Rock, but we not some fiends
- Andy Mineo

I actually think he's going to be a bust because of his height. I was scared to see him going to the lakers in the mock draft last week

Collison was my if-he's-available guy at the start of the draft and Bombastic had him high on his board too. Whenever I looked at boxscores of the Philly-NO series and thought, "Why the hell is a one-man team beating a fairly rounded squad?", the answer (aside from Davis' injuries), was inevitably depth. I think Collison can give good minutes at a few positions, and be one of the steadier post-up fours in the league. I think down the road he's a starter. I think Magloire is light years from where is will/can be right now. He was never an offensive focal point at Kentucky and as his scoring tools develop, he'll be one of the best in the East. Mashburn and Wesley have a whole bunch of solid seasons in them, and Davis is the glue. I think a strong frontcourt rotation would really step this team up a notch and Collison is capable of doing it. His transition won't be easy but I think he's even more fit for it than, say, a similar player like Battier.

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Over 10 Years of Measured Responses

The Utah Jazz select:

David West out of Xavier

Malone will be out of here in the next year or so, so better start rebuilding now.West is a little undersized, but has shown to be a great scorer. Let's see how does against the big boys.

Notes: West became Xavier's first National Player of the Year when he won the 2002-03 Rupp Trophy, which is the award given by the Associated Press its top college player. West also won the 2002-03 Oscar Robertson Player of the Year Trophy, which is the National Player of the Year award for the USBWA (U.S. Basketball Writers Association). West was also named as the 2002-03 Basketball Times Player of the Year and finished second in the balloting for the John R. Wooden Award for player of the year.

West was named as a 2002-03 First Team All-American by the Associated Press, the USBWA, the NABC (National Association of Basketball Coaches) and the John R. Wooden Award. He was the first player in Xavier history to be named to the first team of a major All-American team and was also the recipient of the 2002-03 NABC/Pete Newell Big Man of the Year Award, which is presented annually during the National Association of Basketball Coaches Convention at the Final Four.

West was the first player to win three A-10 Player of the Year awards, having earned them in each of his last three years. He also was named to the A-10 All-Defensive Team for the third straight year in 2003.

As can be expected, West set numerous records during his four seasons at Xavier. West finished with 2,132 career points and grabbed 1,308 career rebounds. Only four players have reached the 2,000-point, 1,000-rebound plateau over the last six years: West, Raef LaFrentz (Kansas ?98), Nick Collison (Kansas ?03) and Brandon Hunter (Ohio ?03). Xavier has only one other player in its history that has collected over 2,000 points and 1,000 rebounds: Tyrone Hill (1986-90) had 2,003 points and a school record 1,380 rebounds.

West was among the top five in almost every category in the Atlantic Ten: points (20.1 ppg, third), rebounding (11.8 rpg, first), field goal percentage (51.3 percent, second), free throw percentage (81.6 percent, third) and blocked shots (1.6 bpg, fourth). West tallied a school record 68 career ?double-doubles? in scoring-rebounding during his career, and had 22 double-doubles as a senior, including his 47-point, 18-rebound game against Dayton; his 25-point, 14-rebound game at Saint Joseph?s; a 28-point, 11-rebound game against Creighton, and a 20-point, 12-rebound game at Richmond.

West scored in double figures 110 times in his career and 86 of the last 87 games in his career with the only non-double figure game during that 85-game stretch being the injury-shortened nine-point game against Cincinnati on December 14, 2001. In fact, West scored in double figures in each of his last 56 games, which is the second longest streak in Xavier history. West also broke two other career school records with his 662 free throws made and 874 free throws attempted.





But let me get on with my story so that all of y'all can peep
I'm on my block right, known as cloverdale
Playin' 2K2 while I'm talkin' on my cell well
While I'm inside eyes glued to the screen
CRASH rolls on my homies with the Thursday routine
What's your name, where you goin', where you been, where you from
We say the same thing while they just play dumb - Murs

okplayer Ever on hip hop shows:

"Ever: Only at a fukin' backpacker show do you find beautiful girls who don't get hit on by the guys.

Alfred:I know, Lame ass backpackers prolly

i wanted West to fall to the Spurs (hey I can dream can't I ?)

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For the record, my teams:
MLB: Mets / Soccer: PSG
NCAA BB: Arizona / NCAA FB: Michigan
NBA: Spurs / NFL: Jets

I somehow knew he was going to fall to the last few teams, so i took him the first chance I got.

Who knows, maybe he will end up with the Spurs.





But let me get on with my story so that all of y'all can peep
I'm on my block right, known as cloverdale
Playin' 2K2 while I'm talkin' on my cell well
While I'm inside eyes glued to the screen
CRASH rolls on my homies with the Thursday routine
What's your name, where you goin', where you been, where you from
We say the same thing while they just play dumb - Murs