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"Michael Vick Indicted On Two Criminal Counts"
Tue Jul-17-07 04:21 PM by 3X

  

          

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Michael Vick Indicted On Two Criminal Counts

POSTED: 5:05 pm EDT July 17, 2007
UPDATED: 5:17 pm EDT July 17, 2007

ATLANTA -- Falcons Quarterback Michael Vick has been indicted on two felony criminal counts related to dogfighting at his Virginia home.

Vick has denied any involvement in dogfighting. He has said relatives who once lived at his Virginia property may be responsible.

According to the U.S. District Court for the Eastern district of Virginia, Vick has been indicted on two criminal counts -- they are both felonies.

The first count is for sponsoring a dog in an animal fighting venture and the other is conspiracy as part of another felony.

Vick's Surry County, Virginia home was raided April 26.

Please refresh this developing story and stay tuned to Channel 2 Action News at 6.

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Lank
Jul 17th 2007
1
well allllrighty, then.
Jul 17th 2007
2
      Generally, no.
Jul 17th 2007
5
man, Joey Harrington will do ANYTHING to get the starting job...
Jul 17th 2007
3
So here's my question:
Jul 17th 2007
4
how is spousal abuse less cut and dry than dogfighting?
Jul 17th 2007
6
maybe that's a bad example
Jul 17th 2007
8
he. say. she. say. (by that, if 'she say' and there aren't visible
Jul 17th 2007
50
its early...
Jul 18th 2007
237
nerrmine
Jul 17th 2007
7
As the legal saying goes... 'you can indict a ham sandwich'
Jul 17th 2007
9
I'm real curious to see why VA didn't indict him
Jul 17th 2007
10
Yeah... we'll see what happens...
Jul 17th 2007
12
they dont give a fuk bout actuall 'gettin him'
Jul 17th 2007
15
      wouldn't be a shock to anyone..
Jul 17th 2007
16
      Vick didn't give her herpes, R-Mexico did
Jul 17th 2007
21
      seriously....the house cost how much?....
Jul 17th 2007
92
      the prosecutors also want to bring as much publicity as possible
Jul 18th 2007
118
           but how dumb can a famous person...
Jul 18th 2007
121
it's really hard to beat the feds.
Jul 17th 2007
70
Sports Law Blog link
Jul 18th 2007
247
      dawg..
Jul 18th 2007
266
      have folks seen this part?
Jul 19th 2007
448
Jul 17th 2007
11
Somebody tell Mr. Portis that dogfighting is illegal.
Jul 17th 2007
27
hahaha
Jul 17th 2007
101
Someone put The_Money_Man on suicide watch!
Jul 17th 2007
13
cmon
Jul 17th 2007
14
nomc
Jul 17th 2007
20
we can all dream
Jul 17th 2007
29
I'm not even upset
Jul 17th 2007
38
      cmon
Jul 17th 2007
39
           !nomc
Jul 17th 2007
43
ESPN has egg on its face
Jul 17th 2007
17
unless he snitches, I doubt it.
Jul 17th 2007
30
yep, usually big deals include the rat factor
Jul 17th 2007
36
SportsCenter said that, but I think another reporter, the sickly, nerd ...
Jul 18th 2007
123
Am I the only one NOT surprised... plus the Falcoln staff made NO
Jul 17th 2007
18
Gooddell can't suspend him
Jul 17th 2007
19
what does the conduct code address about federal crimes though?
Jul 17th 2007
22
Which one?
Jul 17th 2007
25
      the running back... and I think it was drug related.
Jul 17th 2007
26
      Jamal Lewis......
Jul 17th 2007
33
His name was already tarnished by his cruelty towards animals
Jul 17th 2007
23
      where's the proof?
Jul 17th 2007
28
           RE: where's the proof?
Jul 17th 2007
31
           Dumbass, that's how the legal system works
Jul 17th 2007
32
           haha
Jul 17th 2007
42
           But you're the same fool who knew EVERYTHING about the Duke LAX case.......
Jul 17th 2007
34
                RE: But you're the same fool who knew EVERYTHING about the Duke LAX case...
Jul 17th 2007
44
                     You have to be the dumbest poster on OKP......
Jul 17th 2007
52
                     you post like an 11 yr old
Jul 17th 2007
61
                          Ooooh, I guess you sonned me, huh?
Jul 17th 2007
65
                               Nope you sonned yourself right here:
Jul 17th 2007
68
                     ouch.
Jul 17th 2007
58
                     Ouch what?
Jul 17th 2007
63
                          RE: Ouch what?
Jul 17th 2007
64
                          cmon dude.
Jul 17th 2007
67
                     ahh...so with them 'casians it's innocent until proven guilty
Jul 17th 2007
85
                          yes
Jul 17th 2007
88
           I'm confident that he was somehow complicit in dogs being brutalized
Jul 17th 2007
37
                Too bad your confidence doesn't stand up in a court of law......
Jul 17th 2007
40
                neither does your hunch
Jul 17th 2007
45
                Innocent until PROVEN guilty......
Jul 17th 2007
51
                     "Because toniiiiiight, we gettin' off like O.J." (c) Q-Tip
Jul 17th 2007
55
                Too bad he can't change my mind when it comes to dog-killing
Jul 17th 2007
60
                I'm confident that everyone here is complicit in something illegal at so...
Jul 17th 2007
59
                     Is facilitating dog fighting a crime?
Jul 17th 2007
69
good.
Jul 17th 2007
24
Innocent until PROVEN guilty.....
Jul 17th 2007
35
Somewhere, Roger Cossack is clearing his calendar n/m
Jul 17th 2007
41
he's doing sports center right now
Jul 17th 2007
47
america is still racist people
Jul 17th 2007
46
They loving this
Jul 17th 2007
48
Govt agencies always go for high profile indictments/prosecutions
Jul 18th 2007
189
some lawyer on espn said they pursue these pretty hard
Jul 17th 2007
53
PETA and Humane Society are powerful lobbies
Jul 17th 2007
56
      Yeah, all those prosecutors are in Big Animal Rights' pocket
Jul 17th 2007
71
           ^^I like this guy
Jul 17th 2007
76
           lol
Jul 17th 2007
81
           um, lobbyist ----> lawmaker -----> law-enforcer
Jul 17th 2007
106
           LOL
Jul 18th 2007
           hahaha
Jul 18th 2007
204
pretty much.
Jul 18th 2007
410
Bye ATL
Jul 17th 2007
49
He ain't going nowhere
Jul 17th 2007
54
      i'd be surprised if they let him go.
Jul 19th 2007
561
suspend him.
Jul 17th 2007
57
on what grounds?
Jul 17th 2007
62
      animal cruelty.
Jul 17th 2007
66
      HE HASN'T EVEN BEEN CHARGED YET
Jul 17th 2007
72
           What do you think an indictment is?
Jul 17th 2007
73
                wiki preliminary hearings
Jul 17th 2007
83
      'Cuff this is Goon-dell we talkin' bout here...
Jul 17th 2007
74
      yes, run ins with the law is "dangerous precedence"
Jul 17th 2007
75
           Don't play dumb
Jul 17th 2007
82
                *rereads all of your posts in this thread*
Jul 17th 2007
84
                     Innocent until proven guilty is a dumb concept
Jul 17th 2007
86
                          you're lack of basic understanding is entertaining to say the least
Jul 17th 2007
87
                               The burden is on the ACCUSER
Jul 17th 2007
91
                                    doesnt mean he didnt do it
Jul 17th 2007
102
                                         You truly are a fucking genius
Jul 17th 2007
105
                                              I never said he *was* guilty
Jul 17th 2007
107
jsut sticking my head to look around
Jul 17th 2007
77
Man, I'm done with it......
Jul 17th 2007
79
      well
Jul 17th 2007
80
      I don't believe the NFL should suspend anyone who is not convicted
Jul 17th 2007
89
           Not even Pacman?
Jul 17th 2007
95
                I don't know the details of all the allegations against The Pacman
Jul 17th 2007
98
Good
Jul 17th 2007
78
If the real truths ever come out....
Jul 17th 2007
90
the indictment:
Jul 17th 2007
93
Culpepper is out there
Jul 17th 2007
94
dude
Jul 17th 2007
97
Culpepper?
Jul 17th 2007
104
culpepper to horn
Jul 17th 2007
110
2 quick thoughts
Jul 17th 2007
96
RE: 2 quick thoughts
Jul 17th 2007
99
      cuz he's going to testify that its all Mike in exchange for immunity
Jul 18th 2007
182
Just heard on sports radio: He can't be suspended
Jul 17th 2007
100
RE: Just heard on sports radio: He can't be suspended
Jul 17th 2007
108
      NO
Jul 18th 2007
125
This makes me sad.
Jul 17th 2007
103
RE: This makes me sad.
Jul 17th 2007
115
i know.
Jul 18th 2007
119
      fuck the dogs
Jul 18th 2007
161
           ^^mad
Jul 18th 2007
166
                not mad, and you called black men "THINGS"?
Jul 18th 2007
178
                no, i called dogs things
Jul 18th 2007
183
                     RE: no, i called dogs things
Jul 18th 2007
185
                          christ. you're trying hard, i give you that.
Jul 18th 2007
192
                               i don't have to try, u said it
Jul 18th 2007
199
                               what the fuck?
Jul 18th 2007
212
                               black men(subj.)aren't(comp. verb)the(def. article) things(sub comp)
Jul 18th 2007
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                                    *shrugs* i'm sorry, it wasn't my intent
Jul 18th 2007
210
                                    black men aren't animals...we are the original MAN...
Jul 18th 2007
213
                                         no, but black men are things
Jul 18th 2007
214
                                         LOL
Jul 18th 2007
222
                                    so what is the umbrella term for dogs AND men? animals? that better?
Jul 19th 2007
449
                RE: ^^mad
Jul 18th 2007
187
who cares if he is innocent or guilty
Jul 17th 2007
109
If this swipe is true, I'm speechless:
Jul 17th 2007
111
there's also the electrocution.
Jul 17th 2007
112
yeah, they reported this on ESPN and my jaw hit the floor
Jul 17th 2007
113
Fam , he is going to be convicted .its over ...seriously
Jul 17th 2007
114
RE: Fam , he is going to be convicted .its over ...seriously
Jul 18th 2007
133
This is crazy
Jul 17th 2007
116
my goodness
Jul 18th 2007
120
Oh please, it's just a dog
Jul 18th 2007
124
Im with you
Jul 18th 2007
126
It's a life
Jul 18th 2007
130
yes you do
Jul 18th 2007
144
EXACTLY!!! a dog specificly BRED for fighting!!!
Jul 18th 2007
150
      if killing chickens was a felony, would you do it?!?
Jul 18th 2007
154
      fuck yeah i would.. if i needed to eat...
Jul 18th 2007
351
      three points
Jul 18th 2007
314
           lets be honest this isnt about DOGS.. its about GAMBLING...
Jul 18th 2007
350
                nice sidestep
Jul 18th 2007
356
                     no gambling .. no dog killing...
Jul 19th 2007
611
absolutely despicable. how can any thinking person defend this?
Jul 18th 2007
128
Jesus christ
Jul 18th 2007
215
Is this common equipment used for breeding dogs or just for
Jul 18th 2007
252
      regular breeding
Jul 18th 2007
305
*reserves judgement, waits for trial*
Jul 18th 2007
117
I'm with you on this one
Jul 18th 2007
122
everyone knows he owned the kennel and fought dogs.
Jul 18th 2007
131
      everyone knows he owned the kennel and fought dogs. wow
Jul 18th 2007
138
Right? Couldn't we just not go all 'Duke Lacrosse' on this one?
Jul 18th 2007
194
exactly!! but maybe if vick didn't look like vick that'd be the case.
Jul 20th 2007
650
Yep.
Jul 18th 2007
209
if you value your sanity
Jul 18th 2007
127
basically. i've given up posting over there
Jul 18th 2007
200
o well i guess ESPN has to get back on McNabb's left nut again.
Jul 18th 2007
129
If he's found guilty, NFL suspensions will be irrelevant
Jul 18th 2007
132
I Question the Credibility of some of these Informants
Jul 18th 2007
134
aren't there four informants?
Jul 18th 2007
135
you know what, after reading that
Jul 18th 2007
136
      once they start digging up dead animals it's OVER
Jul 18th 2007
142
           GTFOH
Jul 18th 2007
151
                there is ZERO deniability that he owned the premises
Jul 18th 2007
158
                     Those aren't the charges though
Jul 18th 2007
165
                          he is charged with criminal conspiracy
Jul 18th 2007
168
                               Owning the house is nothing as far as conspiracy
Jul 18th 2007
176
                                    You're wrong. Here's why.
Jul 18th 2007
188
                                         every black man is a qualified paralegal and shit (c) chappelle
Jul 18th 2007
197
                                         ^^^EEETTTTHHHHEEEEERRRRRR!!!!!^^^
Jul 18th 2007
231
actual conduct policy
Jul 18th 2007
137
There are all kinds of crazy in here
Jul 18th 2007
139
I think its not good
Jul 18th 2007
140
^my man right there
Jul 18th 2007
186
A lot yall said Kobe was going to jail
Jul 18th 2007
141
You can't settle out of court with a Pitbull
Jul 18th 2007
145
RE: You can't settle out of court with a Pitbull
Jul 18th 2007
156
Settlements and plea bargains are NOT the same thing
Jul 18th 2007
159
      I didn't read what you said about the plea
Jul 18th 2007
160
           I have looked this stuff up
Jul 18th 2007
167
he ain't plea bargaining out of jail time
Jul 18th 2007
146
      yup. he is GOING to jail for some amount of time
Jul 18th 2007
148
           yall got law degrees?
Jul 18th 2007
169
                yeah, actually
Jul 18th 2007
170
                ^^^This guy is Clarence Darrowing Fisticuffs
Jul 18th 2007
366
                actually it's my lawyer friends who are saying that
Jul 18th 2007
171
                     Purnell, Quanis, and Tony bout to run a 3-on-1 fastbreak
Jul 18th 2007
174
                          the analysis I'm reading is saying it's a matter of blinking first
Jul 18th 2007
175
                               Wouldn't that be Vick?
Jul 18th 2007
180
                                    But Vick is the biggest name
Jul 18th 2007
184
                                         He has the most money
Jul 18th 2007
191
the "other things are bad, so why are we picking on dog fighters" argume...
Jul 18th 2007
143
for the record, I'm not defending Vick
Jul 18th 2007
i'm with you. i want to see the evidence in trial and vick's defense
Jul 18th 2007
155
      I dont think Michael Vick should go to jail though
Jul 18th 2007
157
           143
Jul 18th 2007
163
                but in my eyes...shells
Jul 18th 2007
172
                     let's see how it plays out
Jul 18th 2007
177
for the record, I'm not defending Vick
Jul 18th 2007
153
agree
Jul 18th 2007
190
RE: the "other things are bad, so why are we picking on dog fighters" ar...
Jul 18th 2007
241
Yes. Yes you are.
Jul 18th 2007
264
      lol n/m
Jul 18th 2007
286
put it like this:
Jul 18th 2007
333
maaaaaaaaan, FUCK barbarro
Jul 18th 2007
336
it's okay Barbaro is in heaven, and he knows you don't mean it
Jul 18th 2007
353
any time someone uses it, just ignore
Jul 20th 2007
725
more bullshit: it's just a dog
Jul 18th 2007
147
LOL
Jul 18th 2007
152
there's really no question about that.
Jul 18th 2007
173
RE: more bullshit: it's just a dog
Jul 18th 2007
242
      *sigh* Some people.....
Jul 18th 2007
265
WHOOF WHOOF!!
Jul 18th 2007
149
fuck all dogs, FUCK DOGS, if all dogs died, i would not give a fuck
Jul 18th 2007
162
147
Jul 18th 2007
164
fuck you
Jul 18th 2007
179
I agree 100%
Jul 18th 2007
243
Sicko is not just the name of a Michael Moore movie.
Jul 18th 2007
320
one word: BARBARO n/m
Jul 18th 2007
181
right. i thought that was inhumane as hell!
Jul 18th 2007
201
I am picturing of all those poor dogs up ther running and playing
Jul 18th 2007
229
barbaro was being kept alive, probably through pain
Jul 18th 2007
303
Barbaro wanted to be here for us, don't you see?
Jul 18th 2007
352
4 days later and this still has me in tears lol
Jul 21st 2007
752
uh, y'all realize I'm saying the media cares more about a damn horse dyi...
Jul 18th 2007
395
      He was so much more than just a horse.
Jul 18th 2007
399
           ^^ This dude stays in character
Jul 19th 2007
612
fucka dog...
Jul 18th 2007
193
Think the Falcons regret trading Matt Schaub now?
Jul 18th 2007
195
and what has he done for this team for them to regret it?
Jul 18th 2007
196
Guilty or innocent, Vick is likely facing a suspension
Jul 18th 2007
198
      but you didnt answer my question about Shaub
Jul 18th 2007
240
no
Jul 18th 2007
203
wow...i'm agreeing with you.
Jul 18th 2007
207
schaub is a wco qb. he would not have been a good fit, anyway.
Jul 18th 2007
206
basically and you know the yokels in atlanta that wanted him
Jul 18th 2007
208
The Texans gave up too much
Jul 20th 2007
669
i hate this.
Jul 18th 2007
202
I have a solution where Vick could possibly get no jail time...
Jul 18th 2007
211
^^^On to something
Jul 18th 2007
216
      good times indeed.
Jul 18th 2007
228
I'MA SAY THIS AND END MINES......
Jul 18th 2007
217
dude on CNN just said that dogfighting and child pornography are...
Jul 18th 2007
218
This Is What I Was Afraid Of
Jul 18th 2007
224
Yeah
Jul 18th 2007
371
on 1st and 10 (ESPN)
Jul 18th 2007
236
Insane
Jul 18th 2007
244
WOW!!!!!!!!
Jul 18th 2007
342
this is why they all go hand in hand
Jul 19th 2007
454
      This is asinine.....
Jul 19th 2007
473
           NO
Jul 19th 2007
504
                because the media uses it to create more emotion
Jul 19th 2007
530
                     Right...you can blow the head off bambi
Jul 19th 2007
565
                          all im sayin is the nigga aint no child molester.
Jul 19th 2007
606
                          dog-fighting IS torture
Jul 20th 2007
640
This nigga is in trouble
Jul 18th 2007
219
might not....but the odds of him getting convicted of something
Jul 18th 2007
221
      it makes sense for all indicted for him not to.
Jul 18th 2007
226
and muhfuckas are wilin in this thread lol
Jul 18th 2007
220
Pretty much
Jul 18th 2007
223
fuck dogs
Jul 18th 2007
225
you're a bad person.
Jul 18th 2007
230
your white, and u are callin me a bad person, ha
Jul 18th 2007
248
      yes. very observant.
Jul 18th 2007
254
      mother theresea was european
Jul 18th 2007
322
           fuck that bitch
Jul 18th 2007
337
Have you ever had offered any insight into any convo, EVER?
Jul 18th 2007
233
      RE: Have you ever had offered any insight into any convo, EVER?
Jul 18th 2007
245
      What?
Jul 18th 2007
246
      if you are talking about him agreeing with my post...
Jul 19th 2007
429
      LOL, now you're mad
Jul 18th 2007
250
           No, it's a serious question
Jul 18th 2007
256
                and i am seriously lol'n at u
Jul 18th 2007
306
                     Did you just say "lol'n"?
Jul 18th 2007
372
                          is it? really?
Jul 18th 2007
387
                               You're black?
Jul 18th 2007
393
                                    lol, it's the joke that keeps on giving
Jul 23rd 2007
775
i cant even believe
Jul 18th 2007
227
      agreed
Jul 18th 2007
234
I knew if I waited long enough...
Jul 18th 2007
232
it's good to see threads like these...
Jul 18th 2007
235
      I agree
Jul 18th 2007
239
      lol @ calling people trash
Jul 18th 2007
251
      yup yup
Jul 18th 2007
255
An ESPN article Comment
Jul 18th 2007
238
i wonder how this person feels about the war, the education system,
Jul 18th 2007
253
yeah, and i wonder what his favorite cereal is
Jul 18th 2007
272
      exactly, so why would i give a fuck what he says about vick
Jul 18th 2007
310
           ^^^doesn't even realize he gives a fuck
Jul 18th 2007
319
                exactly
Jul 18th 2007
341
dogs have also been used to chase runaway slaves and attack Blacks...
Jul 18th 2007
398
      shhhhhh....history isn't allowed with this debate
Jul 18th 2007
402
*places hands to face*
Jul 18th 2007
249
ya know, it really is just a dog.
Jul 18th 2007
257
Edit
Jul 18th 2007
i hope you ain't say something fucked up, ernie
Jul 18th 2007
270
      looks like double post
Jul 18th 2007
283
      Double
Jul 18th 2007
373
Co-sign. It deserves to be tortured!!!
Jul 18th 2007
263
      LOL!!
Jul 18th 2007
367
Mothafuckas is dyin' in Iraq...
Jul 18th 2007
258
I mean, absolutely no one cares about dogs...
Jul 18th 2007
260
That's what I'm sayin. Murderers and rapists should have free reign too.
Jul 18th 2007
262
Good excuse.
Jul 18th 2007
321
The rationale in this thread just blows my mind
Jul 18th 2007
259
man, these people are killing me
Jul 18th 2007
261
cat said 'hideous'
Jul 18th 2007
268
slept-on reply
Jul 18th 2007
327
RE: The rationale in this thread just blows my mind
Jul 18th 2007
269
blind eyes are turned each and every day
Jul 18th 2007
280
      great post
Jul 21st 2007
762
So all these sudden animal rights activitst
Jul 18th 2007
267
ok.
Jul 18th 2007
271
No one is saying that...
Jul 18th 2007
277
i havent eaten animal in over 7 years.
Jul 18th 2007
281
I'm not saying you eat animals..
Jul 18th 2007
290
      that doesnt make dog fighting less immoral.
Jul 18th 2007
301
      you do know they take the meat out of the animal before they stuff it
Jul 18th 2007
308
      hunting is garbage dude
Jul 18th 2007
326
      SHHHH!! Sport hunting is completely humane 100% of the time
Jul 18th 2007
335
      I never said it wasnt...I'm not defending hunting, just pointing out ret...
Jul 18th 2007
340
           you know good & well SPORT hunting does = feeding a fam
Jul 18th 2007
348
      yeah, all SPORT hunters eat the meat.
Jul 18th 2007
330
           you dont get out much do you?
Jul 18th 2007
343
                translation: I better shut the fuck up cuz I know Sport Huntin is sum BS
Jul 18th 2007
346
                     you make Ill Jux look more like a MENSA member with each post
Jul 18th 2007
349
                          yet another off topic post...
Jul 19th 2007
442
      Hunting is very different. See 314.
Jul 18th 2007
325
RE: No one is saying that...
Jul 18th 2007
284
'zealous animal rights attitude'??? nope.
Jul 18th 2007
289
      RE: 'zealous animal rights attitude'??? nope.
Jul 18th 2007
292
      I don't know for sure
Jul 18th 2007
324
           i'm not even talking about the dogfighting...
Jul 18th 2007
390
                Yeah, it's clearly fucked up
Jul 19th 2007
529
                     It's not about profit
Jul 19th 2007
534
                          No, I'm not arguing that it's ok if it's for profit
Jul 19th 2007
548
                               RE: No, I'm not arguing that it's ok if it's for profit
Jul 20th 2007
633
you people?
Jul 18th 2007
313
      lol
Jul 18th 2007
368
RE: So all these sudden animal rights activitst
Jul 18th 2007
304
Psssst...Michael Vick...he's an "athlete"
Jul 18th 2007
379
the black guy on JIM ROME who hated on Vick prolly married to a
Jul 18th 2007
273
what the eff is wrong with ya'll in this post?
Jul 18th 2007
274
^^smartintelligent
Jul 18th 2007
276
I keep leaving this thread...
Jul 18th 2007
278
right!!!
Jul 18th 2007
279
"Dog Terrorist" would make an ill Adult Swim cartoon
Jul 18th 2007
282
Dogs commit terrorist attacks all the time by shitting on my lawn
Jul 18th 2007
312
apparently we just need to torture more dogs
Jul 18th 2007
294
      haha, i like this reply.
Jul 19th 2007
424
      ^^^
Jul 19th 2007
551
^^^Smartfunk
Jul 18th 2007
355
^ Group 3 Team Captain
Jul 18th 2007
376
People are really not addressing some of the bigger issues here
Jul 18th 2007
275
Honestly, I don't think people are for fighting dogs..
Jul 18th 2007
285
because it's mainly yt hunting animals for sport
Jul 18th 2007
288
shooting an animal dead is NOT nearly on the same level of cruelty
Jul 19th 2007
468
      it's not on the same level when you sensationalize it like that.
Jul 19th 2007
539
           there's no sensationalism in knowing the difference between
Jul 19th 2007
547
                killing is killing, no?
Jul 19th 2007
550
                     is execution the same as starvation?
Jul 19th 2007
554
                     *writes memo to the nazis about bosspj's preference*
Jul 19th 2007
564
                     no.
Jul 19th 2007
596
                          i'm sure someone that lost a loved one at the hands of another
Jul 20th 2007
649
                               disagree
Jul 20th 2007
660
                                    gtfohwtbs!
Jul 20th 2007
665
                                         you can't be serious lol
Jul 20th 2007
698
ok.
Jul 18th 2007
291
nobody thinks fighting dogs is a good thing
Jul 18th 2007
295
      that's all I'm saying
Jul 18th 2007
298
      i agree with you. it's because dogs, etc. are kept as pets here.
Jul 18th 2007
299
      This is all I was trying to say.....
Jul 18th 2007
347
YEAH! DOGFIGHTING SHOULD BE IN THE BILL OF RIGHTS!!!
Jul 18th 2007
317
for fuck's sake
Jul 18th 2007
323
      you're right, it's worse...
Jul 18th 2007
334
           ^^^thingiest thing that ever thinged
Jul 19th 2007
414
                but shells my family is from Va near where vick is from
Jul 19th 2007
432
                so by this logic
Jul 19th 2007
471
                If that man took someone's family member away
Jul 19th 2007
573
                     and i'm against electrocuting humans, as are many other people
Jul 19th 2007
598
                          smartest thing ive seen you say. no offense.
Jul 20th 2007
710
                i did the hunting thing with oe when the story broke
Jul 19th 2007
475
                     Ok
Jul 19th 2007
521
                BShCism!!!!!!!
Jul 19th 2007
445
its terrible
Jul 18th 2007
287
JOEY!!! *thinks* cmon
Jul 18th 2007
293
oh shit @ that avi, damn Money you've gotta be hurting right now
Jul 18th 2007
297
      certainly not the way you want to start of the season
Jul 18th 2007
302
           No. Not At All. He was already under more pressure than just about
Jul 18th 2007
315
                True, the feds don't be bullshyttin...
Jul 18th 2007
345
I'm glad hes not my teams QB simply because he's a subpar QB
Jul 18th 2007
316
please be joking, tell me you get your news other than ESPN
Jul 19th 2007
427
as a BLACK MAN i have no beef with dog fighting as a "sport"
Jul 18th 2007
296
that's not 'extra shit' - that's how dogfighting works
Jul 18th 2007
300
most fight dogs are put down humanely or used as practice dogs
Jul 18th 2007
309
      gee thanks for the knowledge
Jul 18th 2007
408
RE: as a BLACK MAN i have no beef with dog fighting as a "sport"
Jul 18th 2007
307
witch hunt...is what i think.
Jul 18th 2007
311
i seen people fight pits a lot when i was younger,
Jul 18th 2007
318
ohhhh you're a joke poster, i get it now.
Jul 18th 2007
328
      if u say so
Jul 18th 2007
344
      remove the word "poster" from your reply and you're dead on
Jul 18th 2007
378
as an IDIOT you should really STFU
Jul 18th 2007
329
gotta cosign this. great points
Jul 18th 2007
331
okayplayer has become idiotville, usa
Jul 18th 2007
332
      2 things..
Jul 18th 2007
338
      I felt bad for laughing at the bodyslamming comment
Jul 18th 2007
357
      it's not *supposed* to be a place where psuedo-progressive faggots
Jul 18th 2007
364
haha
Jul 18th 2007
354
yeah, um...it's a dog.
Jul 18th 2007
362
Where's the 'Hit Dog Hollerin' alias when you need him
Jul 18th 2007
339
It's been said before, but it really baffles me that some OKPs are okay....
Jul 18th 2007
358
don't see whats so baffling about it
Jul 18th 2007
361
It's not about race. It's about right and wrong.
Jul 18th 2007
370
u right, plenty of white bols fight pits too
Jul 18th 2007
400
      Try again
Jul 19th 2007
571
This couldnt be more wrong
Jul 18th 2007
377
lol you know?
Jul 18th 2007
382
End Of Post With This:
Jul 19th 2007
440
^ Group 3 and 4
Jul 18th 2007
375
RE: Michael Vick Indicted On Two Criminal Counts
Jul 18th 2007
359
you forgot "People hunt, so Dogfighting is perfectly acceptable"
Jul 18th 2007
360
nice 'Version (c) Bags
Jul 18th 2007
365
RE: nice 'Version (c) Bags
Jul 18th 2007
383
^^^ realest shit you ever wrote. nm
Jul 19th 2007
438
and... cut... that's a wrap...
Jul 19th 2007
531
then stop comparing dogs to humans
Jul 18th 2007
381
had to mention.. and a ?
Jul 18th 2007
363
Jul 18th 2007
369
Highest payed player in the NFL? MANATEE FIGHTING.
Jul 19th 2007
579
BWAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!
Jul 18th 2007
374
^^^^
Jul 18th 2007
388
6) if he's guilty, he's going to jail and hell
Jul 19th 2007
415
      wow, white people are funny
Jul 19th 2007
436
He's got too much money...
Jul 18th 2007
380
This is a federal case, they win 95% of their prosecutions
Jul 18th 2007
384
im taking names in this post.
Jul 18th 2007
385
hey, no one gives a fuck
Jul 18th 2007
386
basically
Jul 18th 2007
389
idiot
Jul 18th 2007
391
      RE: idiot
Jul 18th 2007
404
           LOL, SAY WORD, AHHHHHHHHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Jul 19th 2007
437
what, you the hall monitor?
Jul 18th 2007
392
you on it.
Jul 18th 2007
394
      OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO....i'se scurred nah!
Jul 18th 2007
396
      and, you're obviously a better person than me
Jul 18th 2007
397
           go kill some chipmunks
Jul 18th 2007
403
u can just copy the list from the amaechi post, lol
Jul 18th 2007
401
      Yeah, you're right man
Jul 18th 2007
405
      It ain't even bout bein liberal. Its about being a critical thinker.
Jul 18th 2007
406
      now you're just being reactionary.
Jul 18th 2007
407
      I didn't say that there was *no* difference.
Jul 18th 2007
409
      ok that makes sense
Jul 18th 2007
412
      there aren't a lot of people here defending dogfighting
Jul 19th 2007
439
      you're getting desperate
Jul 19th 2007
417
           I got plenty of ammunition, kitko. Plenty. Plenty. Lots. Plenty.
Jul 19th 2007
422
                okay
Jul 19th 2007
434
                This isn't true:
Jul 19th 2007
577
                     wrongo
Jul 20th 2007
634
                          These are your beliefs man...we are all entitled to them
Jul 20th 2007
651
                               Of course. And I'm entitled to call them wrong.
Jul 20th 2007
659
                                    RE: Of course. And I'm entitled to call them wrong.
Jul 20th 2007
668
                                    Shit, I got disconnected and lost my post. Very quick version:
Jul 20th 2007
695
                                         Maybe the issue is sets of morals:
Jul 20th 2007
700
                                              RE: Maybe the issue is sets of morals:
Jul 20th 2007
706
                                    if youre a carnivore
Jul 20th 2007
709
                                         I said humans are omnivores, not carnivores
Jul 21st 2007
730
                                              PS Isn't vitamin B12 only found in meat?
Jul 21st 2007
732
                                              RE: I said humans are omnivores, not carnivores
Jul 21st 2007
733
                                              I respect your stance on the matter, but respectfully disagree
Jul 23rd 2007
777
                                              The reason that we have to cook the meat we eat
Jul 21st 2007
743
                RE: I got plenty of ammunition, kitko. Plenty. Plenty. Lots. Plenty.
Jul 19th 2007
482
      the difference is about 5 minutes of hot dog on dog action, give or take
Jul 18th 2007
413
           the fights can go as long as four hours
Jul 19th 2007
418
                really...damn...hmmmm...well, do they become human after four hours
Jul 19th 2007
426
      you still sore about that L?
Jul 19th 2007
416
      Right - we're critical thinkers and you're not
Jul 19th 2007
431
           Dude.. will you PLEASE stop with the bullshyt
Jul 19th 2007
503
                it's not bullshit though
Jul 19th 2007
512
                     Dude..
Jul 19th 2007
526
                          RE: Dude..
Jul 19th 2007
536
                               No what doesn't follow is that
Jul 19th 2007
552
                                    whew...say it again. just be consistent, that's all
Jul 19th 2007
575
                                    I disagree with your assertion that it's inconsistent
Jul 20th 2007
636
                                         SPORT HUNTING
Jul 20th 2007
673
                                              Fine BUT
Jul 20th 2007
696
      Negro, if you're going to say the opposite of liberal is realist
Jul 18th 2007
411
It's too bad we don't live in a world
Jul 19th 2007
419
summary of the first 450 posts
Jul 19th 2007
420
what the fuck are you so angry at?
Jul 19th 2007
421
he's angry becuz his dead dog loved him in a special way
Jul 19th 2007
447
Why bother?
Jul 19th 2007
423
Alternate summary:
Jul 19th 2007
425
actually, I have answers
Jul 19th 2007
435
      Come On Man
Jul 19th 2007
479
           nope
Jul 19th 2007
507
                See, I Hear This
Jul 19th 2007
520
                     Cool. It's nice to have a civil discussion for a change.
Jul 19th 2007
533
cat said 'we need to go to hell, yo!'
Jul 19th 2007
430
it's like what common said,
Jul 19th 2007
443
Jail is excessive...
Jul 19th 2007
433
LMAO!!!!! @ your new avy
Jul 19th 2007
516
while I'm probably closer to your side of the argument, Shells
Jul 19th 2007
441
you bitches in here need to go hug your pug and log the fuck off
Jul 19th 2007
428
.
Jul 19th 2007
444
So, you're cool with hanging and electrocuting animals
Jul 19th 2007
446
Im not here being a bitch over a dog I dont own.
Jul 19th 2007
452
      dude seriously
Jul 19th 2007
453
      My neighbors are either 90 or dead
Jul 19th 2007
466
RE: you bitches in here need to go hug your pug and log the fuck off
Jul 19th 2007
462
Those dogs were bred for fighting tho...
Jul 19th 2007
450
Again. I cant stress how WRONG this is
Jul 19th 2007
451
tell your friend he has dog bread to be aggressive
Jul 19th 2007
456
mmm...dog bread
Jul 19th 2007
457
Now see, if they were fighting and eating the Dead Dog Bread
Jul 19th 2007
566
^Spectacular Yes
Jul 19th 2007
623
RE: tell your friend he has dog bread to be aggressive
Jul 19th 2007
463
      Just let it go
Jul 19th 2007
576
           I've been bit by a Cockerspaniel...I've also been bit by an Akita
Jul 19th 2007
578
RE: Again. I cant stress how WRONG this is
Jul 19th 2007
458
      well
Jul 19th 2007
460
      RE: well
Jul 19th 2007
464
           I truly pity your sense of morality
Jul 19th 2007
477
           What's it like to go through life with absolutely no morals?
Jul 19th 2007
567
      Yes, it does
Jul 19th 2007
467
that's just not true
Jul 19th 2007
455
RE: that's just not true
Jul 19th 2007
459
I ain't buying it
Jul 19th 2007
465
      lol
Jul 19th 2007
472
      Then I guess you eat up all bullshit the media feeds you
Jul 19th 2007
474
      you can't possibly expect anyone to take you seriously
Jul 19th 2007
478
      It's "BRED" moron...and how dangerous do "Loins" get?
Jul 19th 2007
568
      Half of them cases don't even be pits...lol.
Jul 20th 2007
680
PITBULLS ARE NOT INHERENTLY MEAN
Jul 19th 2007
469
RE: PITBULLS ARE NOT INHERENTLY MEAN
Jul 19th 2007
470
Weren't black people once bred to be slaves?
Jul 19th 2007
476
Huh?????
Jul 19th 2007
485
Where's the confusion?
Jul 19th 2007
493
RE: Weren't black people once bred to be slaves?
Jul 19th 2007
486
THERE IS NO LOCKJAW
Jul 19th 2007
491
      RE: THERE IS NO LOCKJAW
Jul 19th 2007
496
      Wow, that is incredibly scientific
Jul 19th 2007
501
           RE: Wow, that is incredibly scientific
Jul 19th 2007
505
                Yes, I am delusional and making up dog stories
Jul 19th 2007
508
                Pits don't have lockjaw. They have a strong PSI
Jul 20th 2007
671
                I used to lift my rott off the ground all the time
Jul 20th 2007
674
      lol, what you just swipe that from Wiki?
Jul 19th 2007
498
           No, dogwatch
Jul 19th 2007
499
                dogwich?
Jul 19th 2007
546
RE: Weren't black people once bred to be slaves?
Jul 19th 2007
594
This is called oversimplifying and generalizing
Jul 19th 2007
480
      And then there's this
Jul 19th 2007
490
Pits were bred by the english to fight.
Jul 20th 2007
676
Pits were bred by the english to fight.
Jul 20th 2007
677
cosign, don't waste ur time trying explain it to them idiots
Jul 19th 2007
517
      You're just flat out wrong
Jul 19th 2007
523
      uh no, the modern bulldog did NOT exist in the mid 1800s
Jul 19th 2007
535
           Yes it did
Jul 19th 2007
538
                RE: Yes it did
Jul 19th 2007
555
                     You're clueless
Jul 19th 2007
558
                     I'm clueless? You're the one with the transformers...
Jul 19th 2007
581
                          And you have an avy with a musician who became famous...
Jul 19th 2007
591
                               RE: And you have an avy with a musician who became famous...
Jul 19th 2007
605
                     Humans are just animals...Nature Vs Nurture applies across the board
Jul 19th 2007
569
      "That tiger din't go crazy, That tiger went tiger" c Chris Rock
Jul 19th 2007
545
do y'all understand that just because something is in an indictment
Jul 19th 2007
461
Probably the only voice of reason in this entire post.....
Jul 19th 2007
481
what?
Jul 19th 2007
484
mcdeezjawns or mcdeeznuts, whatever his name is?
Jul 19th 2007
488
      so 1 poster?
Jul 19th 2007
494
      He's the main one I remember.....
Jul 19th 2007
497
           I'm sayin
Jul 19th 2007
500
           Filthy Whore =/= subhuman....thats just real talk
Jul 19th 2007
572
      Sure as fuck wasn't me. n/m
Jul 19th 2007
515
      You have caught some SERIOUS feelins kiddo...not a good look
Jul 19th 2007
570
Not many people are talking about Vick at all
Jul 19th 2007
495
completely with you
Jul 19th 2007
483
I could give two shits if Vick was/wasn't involved
Jul 19th 2007
489
Great Post
Jul 19th 2007
532
i don't understand how mfers don't understand. they are taking
Jul 21st 2007
766
You post on the AFMB?
Jul 19th 2007
563
      poetx99. what was ur name on there? i be trying to bring science
Jul 19th 2007
620
           lol
Jul 20th 2007
648
           Knomercy
Jul 20th 2007
652
                i remember your screen name there.
Jul 20th 2007
653
                oh shit. i ain't kno that was you. and i remember that post. that's
Jul 20th 2007
667
                     that was funny. but it's like that for real.
Jul 20th 2007
681
                     Yup...I've been banned twice...
Jul 20th 2007
705
Anyone else notice Money Man being the calm, non argumentative one?
Jul 19th 2007
487
Pretty Much
Jul 19th 2007
511
classic thread!
Jul 19th 2007
492
Agreed...this one has everything.
Jul 19th 2007
509
KEEP HOPE ALIVE
Jul 19th 2007
510
Longo still thinks Amaechi was better
Jul 19th 2007
514
ESPN: Vick reportedly contrite; sources say NFL to let him play for now
Jul 19th 2007
502
in legal terms, he needs to stop that and eat the donuts
Jul 19th 2007
506
good
Jul 19th 2007
513
      yea but now goodell looks inconsistent imo
Jul 19th 2007
518
           I knew consistency was going to be a problem with goodell
Jul 19th 2007
522
           RE: yea but now goodell looks inconsistent imo
Jul 19th 2007
619
Are people upset that he allegedly killed dogs or how he alledgedly kill...
Jul 19th 2007
519
This is why this post is a mess
Jul 19th 2007
524
neither. I'm just trippin that he has a $130M contract
Jul 19th 2007
525
      lol. that $130M is without a doubt the most quoted contract in history.
Jul 19th 2007
540
           nope, arod's 250 mil is
Jul 19th 2007
574
                a-rod is getting cracker-hate for his 250 mil?
Jul 19th 2007
624
i read the first 50 posts and want to kill myself.
Jul 19th 2007
527
No matter your stance...
Jul 19th 2007
528
are you going to give yourself one shot to the head
Jul 19th 2007
542
b/c that makes ALL the difference. (isn't suicide against the law?)
Jul 19th 2007
556
      doesn't matter if you're successful.
Jul 19th 2007
560
Put on a pheasant costume & call Dick Cheney
Jul 20th 2007
684
what's missed in this is the Dog Fighting Culture. truthfully, i didn't
Jul 19th 2007
537
good post. going back in time would open a vat of worms.
Jul 19th 2007
544
claps to this post
Jul 19th 2007
549
PETA is all over this.
Jul 19th 2007
541
Good link on dog fighting.
Jul 19th 2007
543
Cruel and Unusual Punishment.
Jul 19th 2007
553
RE: Cruel and Unusual Punishment.
Jul 19th 2007
557
Shoeless Vick
Jul 19th 2007
559
This is now officially the worst post in recent OkaySports history.
Jul 19th 2007
562
On a few points, I respectfully disagree Frank
Jul 19th 2007
582
RE: On a few points, I respectfully disagree Frank
Jul 20th 2007
638
      RE: On a few points, I respectfully disagree Frank
Jul 20th 2007
654
           another response
Jul 20th 2007
663
                See Post 668 and for the record:
Jul 20th 2007
670
                uh
Jul 20th 2007
672
                     Good points.
Jul 20th 2007
697
are you high?
Jul 19th 2007
585
Lock and archive.
Jul 19th 2007
587
you're wrong
Jul 19th 2007
588
Actually, you're the only person on your respective side who I defend.
Jul 19th 2007
627
      I don't get it
Jul 20th 2007
642
      I think the essence of the argument
Jul 20th 2007
691
Thanks for letting us know that you think the post sucks.
Jul 20th 2007
637
dumbass! If he just ate the dogs after he killed 'em it be all good
Jul 19th 2007
580
rednecks be surviving off roadkill
Jul 19th 2007
583
who
Jul 19th 2007
584
no one said that
Jul 20th 2007
643
      RE: no one said that
Jul 21st 2007
763
           it's not the next logical step at all
Jul 22nd 2007
773
I hit a raccoon last night on my way home...
Jul 19th 2007
586
better go back and cook it, QUICK
Jul 19th 2007
589
hahahhaha
Jul 21st 2007
764
if you did it on purpose, I'd say lock you up. That's sick.
Jul 19th 2007
590
      RE: if you did it on purpose, I'd say lock you up. That's sick.
Jul 19th 2007
592
      class act.
Jul 19th 2007
593
           cmon
Jul 20th 2007
678
                its the attitude toward it.
Jul 20th 2007
687
                     gotcha,..fair enough
Jul 20th 2007
693
      RE: if you did it on purpose, I'd say lock you up. That's sick.
Jul 19th 2007
595
           mentally ill. potential danger to society.
Jul 19th 2007
597
           So if you see a hideous bug in your home...
Jul 19th 2007
599
           bugs aren't furry or cute enough... moral police doesn't have jurisdicti...
Jul 19th 2007
600
           what i like to do
Jul 19th 2007
602
           she's trained to kill
Jul 19th 2007
615
           Because bugs and dogs are the same?
Jul 20th 2007
646
           why would i fuck up my kicks son?
Jul 19th 2007
601
                RE: why would i fuck up my kicks son?
Jul 19th 2007
604
                     who's words?
Jul 19th 2007
607
                          RE: who's words?
Jul 19th 2007
609
                               is that before or after
Jul 19th 2007
610
                                    what chapter?...
Jul 19th 2007
613
                                         now i feel bad for giving you a hard time.
Jul 19th 2007
614
                                         Here's some reading for you
Jul 19th 2007
616
                                              RE: Here's some reading for you
Jul 19th 2007
618
                                                   God doesn't make babies either
Jul 19th 2007
621
                                                        RE: God doesn't make babies either
Jul 19th 2007
630
                                                             Ignorance is bliss, right?
Jul 20th 2007
632
           RE: mentally ill. potential danger to society.
Jul 20th 2007
694
           1/3 of the "MacDonald Triad"
Jul 19th 2007
603
You shouldn't fights dogs. Shit is mad barbaric.
Jul 19th 2007
608
why can't those people, like, put money on a horse or boxing match
Jul 19th 2007
617
i gotta get a part of this shit
Jul 19th 2007
622
I award you no points and my God have mercy on your soul
Jul 19th 2007
625
Watch out Z
Jul 19th 2007
626
not just a cat
Jul 19th 2007
629
      mmmmm. . . cat bread
Jul 21st 2007
742
This article just BODY SLAMMED the Vick haters (anti-'CISM SWIPE)
Jul 19th 2007
628
*prints that article*
Jul 19th 2007
631
      RE: *prints that article*
Jul 20th 2007
635
Falcons considered Paid Leave of Absence
Jul 20th 2007
639
ok, i can NOT respect PETA for this:
Jul 20th 2007
641
do you really think they care about his rights?
Jul 20th 2007
644
for real. and btw, there IS a case against PETA for killing dogs:
Jul 20th 2007
658
i HOPE i see them protesting at a falcons game
Jul 20th 2007
686
not counting the ones they spayed?
Jul 20th 2007
690
RE: do you really think they care about his rights?
Jul 20th 2007
699
RE: ok, i can NOT respect PETA for this:
Jul 20th 2007
645
peta good
Jul 20th 2007
647
KLANSMAN CRIES OVER DOGS IN SENATE (VIDEO)
Jul 20th 2007
655
LoL at calingl Byrd a klansmen because he's from West Va
Jul 20th 2007
656
dude. he was.
Jul 20th 2007
657
Huh, looks like he was. I had no idea.
Jul 20th 2007
729
      that duke education
Jul 21st 2007
737
you're stupid.
Jul 20th 2007
675
dear god, I bet he supports the war too
Jul 20th 2007
664
barbaric barbaric barbaric...STFU! i wish i could tell this guy that
Jul 20th 2007
666
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jul 20th 2007
679
      RE: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jul 20th 2007
685
           he's denouced the klan. he X-Klan. lol. fwiw, he's the only senator
Jul 20th 2007
692
                hmmm...he still needs to sit his x-klan azz down.
Jul 20th 2007
702
Nope, no hypocrisy there.. ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!
Jul 20th 2007
682
Hey Upshaw Brigade, how's Whitlock look now?
Jul 20th 2007
661
not talking about it?
Jul 20th 2007
701
Dogfighting is wrong, & Vick is a Dickhead
Jul 20th 2007
662
GOAT? Post?
Jul 20th 2007
683
GOAT=cruelty to actual goats. FREE THE GOATS
Jul 20th 2007
688
      Not if we make a GOAT burger after torturing it.
Jul 20th 2007
703
           ^^^ killin' em softly... like PETA
Jul 20th 2007
704
                so either all killing is ok or none?
Jul 20th 2007
707
already almost 100 more replies than amaechi
Jul 20th 2007
689
lets get this to 4 digits.
Jul 20th 2007
708
Won't make it. Poetx killed those chances.
Jul 20th 2007
711
      i actually havent read them.
Jul 20th 2007
712
      RE: i actually havent read them.
Jul 20th 2007
713
           He's completely taken the steam out of this topic. Admit it.
Jul 20th 2007
714
                RE: He's completely taken the steam out of this topic. Admit it.
Jul 20th 2007
716
                     Lol. I sense weakness in your posting.
Jul 20th 2007
720
                          RE: Lol. I sense weakness in your posting.
Jul 20th 2007
724
      I'm beginning to think you don't actually read anything
Jul 20th 2007
715
      Um, you're the one who's not reading, asshole.
Jul 20th 2007
717
      RE: Um, you're the one who's not reading, asshole.
Jul 20th 2007
719
      You don't read.
Jul 20th 2007
721
           No, you don't read.
Jul 20th 2007
723
                Give up.
Jul 20th 2007
727
                     *points to post 738*
Jul 21st 2007
740
                          As usual, you didn't even read it
Jul 21st 2007
744
                               he already stopped replying to me
Jul 21st 2007
748
                                    I'm busy eating a doggie carcass and being moral.
Jul 21st 2007
749
                                         RE: I'm busy eating a doggie carcass and being moral.
Jul 21st 2007
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                                              Not so fast....
Jul 21st 2007
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                                                   RE: Not so fast....
Jul 21st 2007
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                                                        ^^^Scared to death, scared to look
Jul 21st 2007
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      RE: I'm beginning to think you don't actually read anything
Jul 20th 2007
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           Lol. I'm curious as to why you're so personally hurt.
Jul 20th 2007
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                RE: Lol. I'm curious as to why you're so personally hurt.
Jul 20th 2007
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                     Let's get to the (doggie)meat of this right now.
Jul 21st 2007
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                          you continue to prove you're not reading
Jul 21st 2007
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                               Hahaha^^^FURIOUS^^^
Jul 21st 2007
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                                    RE: Hahaha^^^FURIOUS^^^
Jul 21st 2007
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      Which post of his is so powerful?
Jul 21st 2007
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           oe is insane. thats how.
Jul 21st 2007
736
           *points to post 738*
Jul 21st 2007
739
                So in post 711, you were referring to a post that didn't exist yet?
Jul 23rd 2007
778
                     #461. i've made a number of posts that no one has refuted, critcally.
Jul 23rd 2007
779
                          Your post #461 is all about Vick.
Jul 23rd 2007
783
                               i've never argued FOR legalizing dogfighting
Jul 23rd 2007
784
                                    we're mostly agreed on a lot of points
Jul 23rd 2007
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this post is 730.
Jul 20th 2007
728
But can it get to 1000
Jul 21st 2007
731
actually, someone (ErnestLee, perhaps?) already said that...way up ther...
Jul 21st 2007
735
lol at this shit catching the Best of Soul Train post in the lesson
Jul 21st 2007
746
for the record, i'm anti-fakeassed outrage. (WARNING: manifesto ahead)
Jul 21st 2007
738
minus the vick plea copping....
Jul 21st 2007
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i ain't really plea copping for vick, tho. just pointing out some shit.
Jul 23rd 2007
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      LOL - the sad thing about the hemming and hawing on talk radio
Jul 23rd 2007
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           it was a conversion experience. he started asking me about all
Jul 24th 2007
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NOW this post just might be dead
Jul 21st 2007
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^^^ just made this post genuinely worthy of archiving
Jul 21st 2007
754
Agree 100%.
Jul 21st 2007
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^^^^officially official!
Jul 23rd 2007
780
http://www.workingpitbull.com/images/abuse2.jpg
Jul 21st 2007
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Awful...as are these
Jul 22nd 2007
768
Yeah, these are pretty bad too
Jul 22nd 2007
769
Vick jerseys clearanced at Eastbay
Jul 21st 2007
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* i'm also anti-wearing another ni&&a name on my back. i don't
Jul 21st 2007
757
Are you also an anti-aircraft gun?
Jul 21st 2007
767
      ugh.
Jul 22nd 2007
770
      nope. i use those to shoot down anti-funny poasters. nm
Jul 22nd 2007
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nobody wants conversations abt dogfighting w/ strangers
Jul 22nd 2007
772
Over/Under how much jailtime dude do?
Jul 23rd 2007
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no jail time
Jul 23rd 2007
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~placeholder (reply to a falcons fan)~
Jul 23rd 2007
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this shit aint gettin to 1K replies, don't even try
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LegacyNS
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1. "Lank"
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http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2940065

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2. "well allllrighty, then."
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wondering what the science is on the charges vs. the potential charges.

also, how is boddie not indicted and he lived there?

that's weird. they saying that the cousin who lived there didn't know enough about the situation to be indicted, but vick did? that's... interesting, to say the least.

i didn't think he was gonna be indicted, so this is interesting. there goes the season, i 'spose. he better get the ghost of johnny cochran.

the evidence should prolly still be tossed out since it was gotten after a questionable search. also, these are felonies? didn't the felony dogfighting law just get passed this year (after all this shit broke)?

can they make a law up today, and charge you for some shit you did last year?


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5. "Generally, no."
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>can they make a law up today, and charge you for some shit you
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3. "man, Joey Harrington will do ANYTHING to get the starting job..."
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*Jews you*

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4. "So here's my question:"
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Let's say Vick is convicted, and suspended for 8 games or 2 seasons or banned for life or whatever.

Is Premier Goodell also going to institute similar bans when Michael Pittman or Dominic Rhodes gets convicted of spousal abuse (for the 132nd time)?

PLEASE tell me Goodell isn't going to take a hard line against crimes with no controversy (ie in theory most sane people abhor dogfighting), but with wishy-washy crimes he'll be less strict? (ie spousal abuse is less cut and dry)

Goodell is going to fuck this new policy up. Being excessively strict is one thing, failing to implement a complete and well-defined behavior policy is a disaster waiting to happen.

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6. "how is spousal abuse less cut and dry than dogfighting?"
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8. "maybe that's a bad example"
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but you see my point. I sincerely hope Goodell takes as hard a line against all other infractions as he does with something as simple and abhorrent as dogfighting.

It reminds me of politicians who are all gung-ho about issues where there's no real opposition, but when it comes to issues that are more complex, that's when they start with the diplomatic doublespeak.

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50. "he. say. she. say. (by that, if 'she say' and there aren't visible"
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bruises or witnesses).

any man who hits a woman is a low life bastard, don't get me wrong. but there have also been some crazy bidges out there who have falsified reports and whatnot. that makes things tricky in some cases (duke skrippajawn was a student at nc central -- what if she was boo'd up w/ flip murray and lied on him).


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237. "its early..."
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..and there's a huge difference between misdemeanors & felonies

a crime is still a crime, tho

in this case, vick's largest concern would be the conspiracy charge, 'cause that would be the equivalent of a criminal enterprise, and automatically cost him his career (not to mention, his freedom)

is this cases bein' sensationalized?

yep

anyone with an ounce of intelligence can recognize that makin' an example of people who try to live above/beyond the reach of the law is a vital part of the job of a successful d.a.

the fact of the matter is vick owned the property, and that property was damn-near tailor-made for such a criminal enterprise.

is this a case of criminal negligence?

possibly, but like i said, its early...


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7. "nerrmine"
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???eV???..

  

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9. "As the legal saying goes... 'you can indict a ham sandwich'"
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Also, I'm really surprised they didnt indict his cousin as well. Aside from the alleged misconduct, something smells EXTREMELY "funny" about this case.

  

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10. "I'm real curious to see why VA didn't indict him"
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but the Feds did.

That REEKS of politicized bullshit.

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12. "Yeah... we'll see what happens..."
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I'm not convinced they can him get on anything.

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15. "they dont give a fuk bout actuall 'gettin him'"
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they just wanna make sure they can drag his name thru as much dirt as possible

wont surprise me if they subpoena'd the lady that claim mike gave her herpes as a witness for the prosecution

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16. "wouldn't be a shock to anyone.."
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21. "Vick didn't give her herpes, R-Mexico did"
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92. "seriously....the house cost how much?...."
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and do you know how much a pitbull costs.....66 pitbuls no less....and taking care of it...and the whole "badnews" kennel shit...its like where is all this money comiming from?....im pretty sure Vick funded cousion Jimmy's operation...and he is part of it....that's what i think...but if Vick is Guilty he really deserves it....like them dogs suffured...that's dirty....only a person with herpes would do such a thing...



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118. "the prosecutors also want to bring as much publicity as possible"
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you can't bust every dog fighting ring, but you can pick a famous target to maximize publicity to scare the shit out of any other breeders.

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121. "but how dumb can a famous person..."
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be with a contract worth as much as vick's be involved in a such a crime ring....so what that the feds want publicity....who doesnt?....Vick basically set himself up....(though he is yet to be proven guilty)...he is in deep shit....



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70. "it's really hard to beat the feds."
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I mean, extra tough. They have a very high percentage of conviction, and usually have their ducks in a row.
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247. "Sports Law Blog link"
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http://sports-law.blogspot.com/2007/07/michael-vick-indicted-who-let-dogs-out.html

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266. "dawg.."
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I pray that's not your girl in your avatar because I didn't want you to shoot @ me when you saw me heading to her spot.


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448. "have folks seen this part?"
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"...One point of caution: an indictment by a federal grand jury is far from a conviction. I distinctly remember my criminal investigations professor, Charles Whitebread, making this point over and over . . . and over again. Grand jury hearings are typically secret and one-sided in favor of the government. The prosecutor decides which witnesses to call and which witnesses receive immunity. The basic questioning is done by the prosecutor, and the defendant doesn't even have a right to have his or her attorney present. Even worse for the defendant, an indictment only requires "probable cause," meaning more likely than not--a far cry from "beyond a reasonable doubt" for a criminal conviction. There has been much criticism of grand juries as unfair devices for the prosecution, and that they have been misused as tools to shame defendants, especially in high-profile cases."


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11. ""
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27. "Somebody tell Mr. Portis that dogfighting is illegal."
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101. "hahaha"
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"Well if he killed a man on his property, that man shouldn't have been on his propety."

  

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13. "Someone put The_Money_Man on suicide watch!"
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https://twitter.com/chuck4prez

  

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14. "cmon"
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nm

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20. "nomc"
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29. "we can all dream"
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38. "I'm not even upset"
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I was already prepared mentally for this...

the funny thing about this whole thing is that you guys dont realize how good at whethering the storm you have to be to be a falcons fan...

i'm immune to it by now...

  

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39. "cmon"
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nm

  

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43. "!nomc"
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nm

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17. "ESPN has egg on its face"
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Didn't they, according to their "sources," say Vick wouldn't be indicted? Did they assume that not hastening judgement meant no accusation? The feds were probably just being meticulous and thorough with their investigation. We're not talking about the local Atlanta DA here.

Notwithstanding that, Vick will probably be offered a deal, he'll plea down to a lesser charge, pay the fat fine and move on...and go back to being an average QB.

  

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30. "unless he snitches, I doubt it."
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>Notwithstanding that, Vick will probably be offered a deal,
>he'll plea down to a lesser charge, pay the fat fine and move
>on...and go back to being an average QB.

And if he snitches, he'll have bigger problems.
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36. "yep, usually big deals include the rat factor"
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123. "SportsCenter said that, but I think another reporter, the sickly, nerd ..."
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18. "Am I the only one NOT surprised... plus the Falcoln staff made NO"
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effort to rally behind him. This dude is sitting on a damn near 150 mil contract, hasn't bust a grape in the league(yeah yeah he can run fast and racked up run yardage), and if I was Blanks, I woulda sold my soul for an indictment to rid myself of him. I know the Vick riders are praying for an aquittal, but he's gonna need a team of Velociraptors to beat this--> you talking federal, animal rights, and I hear Virginia PD ain't too nice, so u know they trying to bring pure heat in the investigation. Bottom line, Vick KNEW this shit was going on, and if they can prove that, he's toast... and rightfully should be. I mean really, is he THIS dumb?

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19. "Gooddell can't suspend him"
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the "conduct code" is for REPEAT offenders but this is vick's 1st offense. my issue is that yt and a few mush mouth negroes will be calling for his head trying to pressure a suspension on some "there's a double standard for stars" shit.

the feds told the league and the falcons a vick indictment was unlikely but 3 others would face charges. they threw mike in there because you can easily indict someone. they know if they indict him he'll take a plea deal which will tarnish his name and possibly get him suspended. this is bullshit.

  

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22. "what does the conduct code address about federal crimes though?"
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But then again, didn't what's his name from the Ravens do jail time and came back to play? I'm certain it wasn't fed time though.

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25. "Which one?"
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>But then again, didn't what's his name from the Ravens do
>jail time and came back to play? I'm certain it wasn't fed
>time though.

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26. "the running back... and I think it was drug related."
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33. "Jamal Lewis......"
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I finally joined the crowd: http://www.myspace.com/kc2atl - Add me, I need some friends.....

  

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23. "His name was already tarnished by his cruelty towards animals"
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28. "where's the proof?"
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an ivestigation and an indictment does NOT equal guilt.

that's bullshit. you don't know shit so how can you say he's guilty? every idiot i the stands will hold this over his head even if the indictment doesn't stick and that's wrong.

  

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31. "RE: where's the proof?"
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>
>that's bullshit. you don't know shit so how can you say he's
>guilty?

you dont know shit so how can you say he's innocent?

  

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32. "Dumbass, that's how the legal system works"
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INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY

the burden is not on the accused faggot.

did you forget that or does that principle only get extended to "certain" individuals?

  

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42. "haha"
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>INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY
>
>the burden is not on the accused faggot.
>
>did you forget that or does that principle only get extended
>to "certain" individuals?

  

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34. "But you're the same fool who knew EVERYTHING about the Duke LAX case......."
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44. "RE: But you're the same fool who knew EVERYTHING about the Duke LAX case..."
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yup,
and I was right

you mad


Now, get back to the GD Vick thread and try and top yourself for most retarded statement of the day cause you're in the lead over there
which is really sayin somethin

I mean this right here:

"Nope, the Humane Society kills thousands of dogs every day.....I don't see PETA marching over there and trying to give all those dogs a happy home......."

Is grounds for a downs syndrome test

  

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52. "You have to be the dumbest poster on OKP......"
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61. "you post like an 11 yr old"
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65. "Ooooh, I guess you sonned me, huh?"
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68. "Nope you sonned yourself right here:"
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"Nope, the Humane Society kills thousands of dogs every day.....I don't see PETA marching over there and trying to give all those dogs a happy home......."

and with pretty much every other laughable thing you have ever managed to type

  

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58. "ouch."
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>I mean this right here:
>
>"Nope, the Humane Society kills thousands of dogs every
>day.....I don't see PETA marching over there and trying to
>give all those dogs a happy home......."
>
>Is grounds for a downs syndrome test
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63. "Ouch what?"
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that statement was in response to someone asking if anyone really cared about the dogs. I'm not a dog lover, I don't really even like dogs. I could care less if they were fighting dogs or not. It just seems hypocritical to me that PETA goes after folks for killing dogs when the Humane Society does it every day......



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64. "RE: Ouch what?"
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>that statement was in response to someone asking if anyone
>really cared about the dogs. I'm not a dog lover, I don't
>really even like dogs. I could care less if they were
>fighting dogs or not. It just seems hypocritical to me that
>PETA goes after folks for killing dogs when the Humane Society
>does it every day......
>
>
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67. "cmon dude."
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85. "ahh...so with them 'casians it's innocent until proven guilty"
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>yup,
>and I was right
>
>you mad

but with african-americans it's the other way around?

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88. "yes"
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37. "I'm confident that he was somehow complicit in dogs being brutalized"
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Whether what he did is viewed as a felony in the eyes of the law, or whether Goodell suspends him are really neither here nor there as far as that goes.

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40. "Too bad your confidence doesn't stand up in a court of law......"
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45. "neither does your hunch"
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51. "Innocent until PROVEN guilty......"
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55. ""Because toniiiiiight, we gettin' off like O.J." (c) Q-Tip"
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legal guilt vs. factual guilt... the first thing taught in Criminal Justice 101.

  

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60. "Too bad he can't change my mind when it comes to dog-killing"
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59. "I'm confident that everyone here is complicit in something illegal at so..."
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mike may have known something was going on but i don't think he electricuted or hanged dogs. i don't believe he's a dog fighter.

the feds indicted him knowing he'll take a plea deal which means he's forced to drop a dime and help their case. the same thing happened to ray lewis.

  

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69. "Is facilitating dog fighting a crime?"
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I honestly don't know or care. I think it makes you a lowlife, and "ruining his name" is what you were talking about.

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24. "good."
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35. "Innocent until PROVEN guilty....."
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41. "Somewhere, Roger Cossack is clearing his calendar n/m"
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47. "he's doing sports center right now"
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46. "america is still racist people"
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this shit is crazy
i never seen so much effort involved in a fucking dogfighting case!
dude didn't live there, they have no physical evidence, only some weak ass hearsay from "unnamed sources"
fuck outta HERE
most likely vick will easily beat this case, but he might be cut/traded now, his rep is ruined for good (like it wasn't bad enough) and we gotta listen to the white media shit on ANOTHER black nigga for the next few months
shit i guess TO been too quiet this offseason, white media done had to create some new shit

  

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48. "They loving this"
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pacman and tank are nobodies. they got an indicment on one of the highest profile black athletes out.

espn will cover this all day.

  

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189. "Govt agencies always go for high profile indictments/prosecutions"
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that's how they get to where they are. it's fucked up but it's true.

  

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53. "some lawyer on espn said they pursue these pretty hard"
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not that it isn't racist, but it doesn't look like this investigation is all that uncommon.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2905920

In Dayton, Ohio, for example, the USDA and other federal and state agencies investigated a dogfighting operation for 14 months, seized 64 dogs, and indicted nine people. Last week, state authorities in Ohio charged another 38 who were involved in the same scheme. All 38 are charged with state felonies. Although that investigation began with a dogfighting conspiracy, it quickly led to drug, gun and gambling charges as well. The charges even include bartered purchases of food stamp machines. The payments for the food stamp machines, which produce valuable food stamps for use as cash in retail stores, included a stolen Corvette and wholesale quantities of cocaine.

  

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56. "PETA and Humane Society are powerful lobbies"
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Not as big as factory farming, but big nevertheless.

  

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71. "Yeah, all those prosecutors are in Big Animal Rights' pocket"
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76. "^^I like this guy"
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n/h
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81. "lol"
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106. "um, lobbyist ----> lawmaker -----> law-enforcer"
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did you read the tom lantos haterade memo?

  

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"LOL"


  

          

nm

  

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204. "hahaha"
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410. "pretty much."
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>fuck outta HERE
>most likely vick will easily beat this case, but he might be
>cut/traded now, his rep is ruined for good (like it wasn't bad
>enough) and we gotta listen to the white media shit on ANOTHER
>black nigga for the next few months
>shit i guess TO been too quiet this offseason, white media
>done had to create some new shit

The Vick Shift is forever stuck in one direction after this...

  

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49. "Bye ATL"
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I think Vick is honestly gone after this boils all over. Folk wanted him gone, now they can have their dream..he may get off but after getting your name in all this? Ehhh..

Now to see who'll pick him up..what teams right now need a QB.

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54. "He ain't going nowhere"
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561. "i'd be surprised if they let him go."
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i mean jamal lewis was convicted of a federal offense, did his 6 mos bid (or how ever long it was) and went back to baltimore. he's somewhere else now, but still.

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57. "suspend him."
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62. "on what grounds?"
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again the conduct code is intended for REPEAT offenders (pacman, tank, henry).

this is gonna set a dangerous precedence if vick gets hit.

  

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66. "animal cruelty."
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72. "HE HASN'T EVEN BEEN CHARGED YET"
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let alone proven guilty.

  

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73. "What do you think an indictment is?"
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That's charging him.
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83. "wiki preliminary hearings"
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74. "'Cuff this is Goon-dell we talkin' bout here..."
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you think he wouldn't wanna use Mike as an example? I won't put it past him. I'm hoping somehow mike can beat the case and concentrate on football but with this 'embarassment' I dunno man..

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75. "yes, run ins with the law is "dangerous precedence""
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>again the conduct code is intended for REPEAT offenders
>(pacman, tank, henry).
>
>this is gonna set a dangerous precedence if vick gets hit.

  

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82. "Don't play dumb"
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gooddell will be opening pandora's box if he suspends vick. he'd be going against his own "repeat offender" idea.

oh, and fuck your avi.

  

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84. "*rereads all of your posts in this thread*"
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*finds humor in who is telling me not to be dumb*

  

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86. "Innocent until proven guilty is a dumb concept"
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>you dont know shit so how can you say he's innocent?

YOU said that dumb shit.

FOH

  

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87. "you're lack of basic understanding is entertaining to say the least"
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if you dont see the basic flaw in you saying someone doesnt know shit so cant say hes guilty and then turn around and say someone is innocent when you in fact dont know shit either than I feel for you

  

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91. "The burden is on the ACCUSER"
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mike is innocent until PROVEN otherwise.

you are a us citizen right?

  

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102. "doesnt mean he didnt do it"
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technically, everyone is innocent until the prosecution has a chance to prove their case
even the guilty folks are technically innocent in the eyes of the law for a period of time
doesnt mean they didnt do it though

is that a little too tough for you to wrap your brain around?

  

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105. "You truly are a fucking genius"
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>technically, everyone is innocent until the prosecution has a
>chance to prove their case

word? "technically?"

>even the guilty folks are technically innocent in the eyes of
>the law for a period of time

haha...you're using the word "technically" like you're breaking some deep legal concept down. well TECHNICALLY, you are the master of redundancy and the obvious. read your first sentence then read the second one. lol

did you think that saying the same shit twice w/different words would make you sound smart?

>doesnt mean they didnt do it though
>

lol

this is too easy. you're killing yourself.

>is that a little too tough for you to wrap your brain around?

your reply is so deep i'll have to marinate on it. FOH

you haven't said shit. you say he's guilty? prove it.

  

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107. "I never said he *was* guilty"
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I'm just not foolish enough to say he's innocent while bashing people for saying hes guilty
when at the end of the day
neither side knows shit about it

but you missed that whole part while you got your panties in a bunch

  

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77. "jsut sticking my head to look around"
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and as usual, the usual asses are being.....asses.

this post is about to hit 3x plat and too large for me to re-enter.

KC said it best: "...until proven guilty"

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79. "Man, I'm done with it......"
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these people have their minds made up, Vick is guilty, kick him out the league and throw him in jail forever. Where were these same folks when Leonard Little killed a woman while driving drunk?



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80. "well"
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>these people have their minds made up, Vick is guilty, kick
>him out the league and throw him in jail forever. Where were
>these same folks when Leonard Little killed a woman while
>driving drunk?

They weren't here, because the site wasnt even up, or had just started


  

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89. "I don't believe the NFL should suspend anyone who is not convicted"
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And I do believe Leonard Little does not belong in the league, as I have said many times.

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95. "Not even Pacman?"
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I agree. no conviction, no suspension.

  

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98. "I don't know the details of all the allegations against The Pacman"
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But until he's convicted or there's something substantial against him, no, I don't think he should be suspended.

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78. "Good"
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Y'all seem to forget it's felony because dogs are involved... and because he's black.

  

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90. "If the real truths ever come out...."
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Vick is going to spend some substantial time in jail

  

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93. "the indictment:"
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http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2007/0717072vick1.html
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94. "Culpepper is out there"
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Im just sayin. I got a team to look after.

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97. "dude"
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104. "Culpepper?"
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*
*
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110. "culpepper to horn"
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96. "2 quick thoughts"
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If Goodhell is going to suspend Vick it needs to happen THIS WEEK. Reports all summer is this is Vicks best camp EVER. If we're moving forward, we need to get someone into place ASAP.


This started with Vick cousin getting cought with weed at Walmart, doing more dumb shit to get his house searched and the po-po finding dog shit in the back yard. But he's not named. WTF?!?!?!?!?!

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99. "RE: 2 quick thoughts"
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>If Goodhell is going to suspend Vick it needs to happen THIS
>WEEK. Reports all summer is this is Vicks best camp EVER. If
>we're moving forward, we need to get someone into place ASAP.
>
>

Gooddell will cause major problems w/a suspension. the players and the union will not be pleased as vick is not a repeat offender not to mention the racial aspect.

if he is suspend it can't be for more than a game or 2.

don't get another qb. they need to support vick. if they sign daunte and vick beats his case they might as well release vick. all the money and excitement he's brought blanc, they gotta support him or he'll tell atl to fuck off.

>This started with Vick cousin getting cought with weed at
>Walmart, doing more dumb shit to get his house searched and
>the po-po finding dog shit in the back yard. But he's not
>named. WTF?!?!?!?!?!

cosign. how is he not a conspirator when he lived there?

  

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182. "cuz he's going to testify that its all Mike in exchange for immunity"
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doesn't that seem pretty obvious?

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100. "Just heard on sports radio: He can't be suspended"
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not UNTIL found guilty under the leagues 1st offense rule. (again, this is what was said on the RADIO)

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108. "RE: Just heard on sports radio: He can't be suspended"
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they just said on Fox Atlanta that the comissioner doesn't have to wait for a verdict.

after hearing the way they killed those dogs, if he is guilty then i got no sympathy for dude.

  

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125. "NO"
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The rule he signed says he can't. Not until he pleas or is found guilty. It's been stated on ESPN a few times now.

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103. "This makes me sad."
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We suck at life.



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115. "RE: This makes me sad."
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>We suck at life.

  

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119. "i know."
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i feel bad for the dogs too.

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161. "fuck the dogs"
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166. "^^mad"
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black men aren't the only things in the world with rights.

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178. "not mad, and you called black men "THINGS"?"
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.

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183. "no, i called dogs things"
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if i wanted to call black men things, i would have called them "black man things." what was i supposed to say, "other people besides black men have rights?"

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185. "RE: no, i called dogs things"
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>>>black men aren't the only things in the world with rights<<<

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ YOU

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192. "christ. you're trying hard, i give you that."
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199. "i don't have to try, u said it"
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and u somehow also implied the rights of blacks are upheld on a regular basis

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212. "what the fuck?"
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>and u somehow also implied the rights of blacks are upheld on
>a regular basis

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205. "black men(subj.)aren't(comp. verb)the(def. article) things(sub comp)"
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'cism...clear as the day, muhfucka

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210. "*shrugs* i'm sorry, it wasn't my intent"
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if anyone's legitimately offended, as opposed to trying to distract from the issue at hand, i'm sorry the phrasing offended you.

i'm happy to consider alternate phrasings. perhaps i should have said "black men aren't the only animals that have rights," since people are animals and not things. i think that one might have gone over like a lead ballon, though. i guess i could have said that "animals have rights too," but then i wouldn't have been able to make my point that this is part of jux and your reactionary defending of any black man, regardless of how heinous an act he may have committed.

so i'll stick with my wording and say, just because you heard it one way doesn't mean it even approaches cism.

point remains. people (if the lack of adjective make you feel better) aren't the only things that have rights.

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213. "black men aren't animals...we are the original MAN..."
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created by morgan freeman in his own image, bitch.

but, i don't look shit like morgan freeman.

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214. "no, but black men are things"
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222. "LOL"
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449. "so what is the umbrella term for dogs AND men? animals? that better?"
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187. "RE: ^^mad"
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>black men aren't the only things in the world with rights.

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109. "who cares if he is innocent or guilty"
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like a lot of dumb athletes, dude had the dream life and tossed it away on some stupid bullshit

  

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111. "If this swipe is true, I'm speechless:"
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In or about April 2007, Peace, Phillips and Vick executed approximately 8 dogs that did not perform well in "testing" sessions at 1915 Moonlight Road by various methods including hanging, drowning and slamming at least one dog's body to the ground.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2007/0717072vick17.html

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112. "there's also the electrocution."
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http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2007/0717072vick12.html

that's a really detailed document.

  

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113. "yeah, they reported this on ESPN and my jaw hit the floor"
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and i really hope they lock his ass up for a long time for that shit.

i mean, its bad enough to fight dogs and put down the weak ones..... but if he must do that, at the very least put em down easy. torturing them to a painful death? thats repulsive.

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114. "Fam , he is going to be convicted .its over ...seriously"
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This isnt ray lewis killing a blackman( which they dont care about). This is a man that probably killed 100's of dogs, and white people ARE IN LOVE WITH DOGS MORE THAN THEY ARE REGULAR PEOPLE, especially BLACK PEOPLE.

No way he gets out of this, and a lot cats are going to be tricking on him left and right to gain immunity.


Funny , we were saying, about some years back, that marucs was the fuck up and clearly a dumb ass, but now, vick is the bread winner with that.


Electrocuting dogs???...hanging?????...drowning????


Fam, this dude is going to do some serious time.


  

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133. "RE: Fam , he is going to be convicted .its over ...seriously"
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>This isnt ray lewis killing a blackman( which they dont care
>about). This is a man that probably killed 100's of dogs, and
>white people ARE IN LOVE WITH DOGS MORE THAN THEY ARE REGULAR
>PEOPLE, especially BLACK PEOPLE.
>
>No way he gets out of this, and a lot cats are going to be
>tricking on him left and right to gain immunity.
>
>
>Funny , we were saying, about some years back, that marucs was
>the fuck up and clearly a dumb ass, but now, vick is the bread
>winner with that.
>
>
>Electrocuting dogs???...hanging?????...drowning????
>
>
>Fam, this dude is going to do some serious time.
>
>
>


Fam, I'm BLACK and I like dogs waaaayyyy more than regular people..

I'm just saying, dogs have not caused a FRACTION of the negativity humans have.

Not that there isn't racism going on with this issue, but liking animals more than humans isn't just a white people thing.

  

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116. "This is crazy"
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120. "my goodness"
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If this is true....have mercy.

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124. "Oh please, it's just a dog"
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I don't get some of y'all who think he should be indicted for this.

  

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126. "Im with you"
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im not shocked though

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130. "It's a life"
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and to kill an animal mercilessly for no reason at all is just down right insane. It is not right to torture an animal

When man kills for food, he has to do it in a certain way, even the bible tells you that.


Vick is about to be the new poster child( in a negative way) for animal rights. They are going to use him as an example, and he will pay for this.

He did not have to use medieval tactics to lay those dogs to rest. Hell, he didnt have to lay those dogs to rest ...It was a meaninless act of murder, plus, it was premeditated.


  

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144. "yes you do"
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150. "EXACTLY!!! a dog specificly BRED for fighting!!!"
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...why are people not this upset about treatment of livestock?? ..i dont like dog fighting, but Vick is gettin fucked here

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154. "if killing chickens was a felony, would you do it?!?"
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exactly.

Doesn't matter what the law should be.

Vick knows what the law actually IS.

Whether we think the law is stupid is beside the point.

Dogfighting is dumb because it's against the law, regardless of how I feel about animals.

  

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351. "fuck yeah i would.. if i needed to eat..."
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...but your point is taken ..ur right ..he should know better

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314. "three points"
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>RE: EXACTLY!!! a dog specificly BRED for fighting!!!

1) Breeding a dog for fighting is wrong to begin with.


2) Aside from that, are you seriously going to argue that the reason for breeding something actually has an effect on that creature's rights once it's born?

That's pretty fucking stupid.

So, even dogs bred to fight (see #1) have the same rights as all other dogs.

Including, but not limited to, the right not to be tortured for someone's pleasure or amusement.



>...why are people not this upset about treatment of
>livestock?? ..i dont like dog fighting, but Vick is gettin
>fucked here

3) Regarding livestock and hunting:

- You can't make keeping livestock for food and/or hunting illegal unless you force the entire population to become vegetarian.

- You can't make it legal to hunt if you eat the meat, but illegal if you don't eat the meat. That's basically creating a law telling people what to eat. That's fucking dumb.

That said, most people DO eat some of the meat they kill. Most people don't hunt and just throw the meat away.

  

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350. "lets be honest this isnt about DOGS.. its about GAMBLING..."
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...the govt dont like this because it revolves around GAMBLING ..its far less to do about doggies ...in fact if there was no gambling involved there wouldn't be too many dog fights, dont you think?

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356. "nice sidestep"
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>RE: lets be honest this isnt about DOGS.. its about GAMBLING...
>...the govt dont like this because it revolves around
>GAMBLING ..its far less to do about doggies ...in fact if
>there was no gambling involved there wouldn't be too many dog
>fights, dont you think?

Yes, of course the fact that gambling was involved has an effect on how the govt. handles the situation.

But I'm not addressing the specifics of Vick's case - I was addressing your callous disregard for dogs, and also the errors in your logic.


And yes, I do think there would still be a case against Vick if there was no gambling but there was still torture, killing, hanging, electrocution... all that foul shit.

It's still animal abuse, it's still illegal, and those are the things that most of the (sane) posters in this thread are opposed to.

In this case, I don't give a shit about gambling if no animals are being abused.

The gambling aspect is a big issue with regard to the govt. Without that, it probably wouldn't be a federal case (I don't know, I haven't been that into the details). But he'd still be in some serious trouble.


And you're right, without gambling, there wouldn't be (as) many dog fights. But there would still be people out there abusing animals and dogs, and it would still be a crime (and rightly so).

  

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611. "no gambling .. no dog killing..."
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>>RE: lets be honest this isnt about DOGS.. its about
>GAMBLING...
>>...the govt dont like this because it revolves around
>>GAMBLING ..its far less to do about doggies ...in fact
>if
>>there was no gambling involved there wouldn't be too many
>dog
>>fights, dont you think?
>
>Yes, of course the fact that gambling was involved has an
>effect on how the govt. handles the situation.
>
>But I'm not addressing the specifics of Vick's case - I was
>addressing your callous disregard for dogs, and also the
>errors in your logic.
>
>
>And yes, I do think there would still be a case against Vick
>if there was no gambling but there was still torture, killing,
>hanging, electrocution... all that foul shit.
>
>It's still animal abuse, it's still illegal, and those are the
>things that most of the (sane) posters in this thread are
>opposed to.
>
>In this case, I don't give a shit about gambling if no animals
>are being abused.
>
>The gambling aspect is a big issue with regard to the govt.
>Without that, it probably wouldn't be a federal case (I don't
>know, I haven't been that into the details). But he'd still be
>in some serious trouble.
>
>
>And you're right, without gambling, there wouldn't be (as)
>many dog fights. But there would still be people out there
>abusing animals and dogs, and it would still be a crime (and
>rightly so).


dude.. gambling and with BIG $$.. brings in money laundering.. drugs.. and all sorts of illegal activity.. its all connected when you have an operation THIS big.. the feds (and shortly the state) aint doin this for the puppies man..

and i have no disregard for dogs.. not when they are bred for this purpose.. the bloodline in these dogs is to be killers.. its a fact they can and will turn on you even after years of loyalty.. its a fucked up situation..

maybe they should outlaw pits from now on.. most people who buy one aint gettin it because its cute... they want a tuff dog with that rep.. its fucked up i know a little girl who lost an eye to a pit.. it attacked her for no reason..

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128. "absolutely despicable. how can any thinking person defend this?"
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>In or about April 2007, Peace, Phillips and Vick executed
>approximately 8 dogs that did not perform well in "testing"
>sessions at 1915 Moonlight Road by various methods including
>hanging, drowning and slamming at least one dog's body to the
>ground.
>
>http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2007/0717072vick17.html

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215. "Jesus christ"
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But hey, that's no different than the Humane Society putting unwanted dogs to sleep humanely.....right? I mean, slamming dogs into walls, electrocuting them, hanging them...it's all good, right? They're just animals, let's have some fun before we kill em and toss em in the garbage.

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252. "Is this common equipment used for breeding dogs or just for"
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dogfighting?

" a "rape stand", a device in which a female dog who is too agressive to submit to males for breeding is strapped down with her head in place by a restraint"

Either way sounds bad to me.

  

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305. "regular breeding"
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117. "*reserves judgement, waits for trial*"
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122. "I'm with you on this one"
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I ain't seen or heard any of the evidence. I'm just going to follow innocent until proven guilty here.

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131. "everyone knows he owned the kennel and fought dogs."
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It wasnt a CIA secret that he was hosting dog fights and training dogs at the house that he bought in VA.

Somethings are just obvious and wide open to the eye, and vick's situation is one of them.

However, I hope the killings of the dogs, and how he killed them, are not true. ...I find it hard to believe that vick would hang and electrocute dogs. It just seems unreal and made up, but at that same time , who would make-up those type of acts?

You know what the crazy thing is about this situation?

This is unchartered territory in the NFL. No player has ever been disciplined for animal cruelty. I'm pretty sure there will be new laws implemented from the NFL and from the US legal system based off of Vick's case.


  

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138. "everyone knows he owned the kennel and fought dogs. wow"
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194. "Right? Couldn't we just not go all 'Duke Lacrosse' on this one?"
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that whole situation should have at least taught us to chill and save the sensational reactaionary bulls**t until after the trial starts (preferably after the verdict).

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650. "exactly!! but maybe if vick didn't look like vick that'd be the case."
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127. "if you value your sanity"
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don't go the the falcons message board
or ajc.com blogs
or listen to sports talk radio outside of the 2 live stews.

This shit bout to be a fuckin circus

  

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200. "basically. i've given up posting over there"
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129. "o well i guess ESPN has to get back on McNabb's left nut again."
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132. "If he's found guilty, NFL suspensions will be irrelevant"
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He'd be going to jail for years.

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134. "I Question the Credibility of some of these Informants"
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