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WWE STAR CHRIS BENOIT, HIS WIFE AND FAMILY FOUND DEAD IN ATLANTA
by Mike Johnson @ 6:04:00 PM on 6/25/2007

We are still awaiting further details, but PWInsider.com is extremely saddened to report that former WWE and WCW World champion Chris Benoit and his wife, former WCW and ECW personality Nancy "Woman" Benoit were both found dead today in Atlanta, Georgia. Obviously this will be a huge developing story in the days to come but at this point, we'd like to express our deepest condolences to the Benoit's family, friends, and fans at this time.

A meeting is currently ongoing at WWE TV and it is expected that tonight's three hour Raw will now be dedicated to Benoit's memory.

6:09 Update: WWE.com issued the following statement this afternoon, also announcing that the Benoits' family (the couple had two children, although if it was them has not been confirmed) were also found dead:

"WWE is sad to report that Chris Benoit and his family have been found dead in their home. Police are currently investigating the circumstances surrounding the deaths. Tonight's Raw will be a tribute to Chris and his family."
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This does deserve its own post
Jun 25th 2007
1
yeah i wanted everyone to know.
Jun 25th 2007
9
If TNA is smart they will keep their mouths shut.
Jun 26th 2007
210
Oh wow
Jun 25th 2007
2
wow...RIP for real nm
Jun 25th 2007
3
i'm shocked as shit.
Jun 25th 2007
4
Jesus Christ...RIP to one of Edmonton's finest
Jun 25th 2007
5
He'll definitley call it off
Jun 25th 2007
8
      Yeah, WWE.com says it's gonna be a tribute show
Jun 25th 2007
16
RE: Chris Benoit & Wife found dead.
Jun 25th 2007
6
damn...rest in peace
Jun 25th 2007
7
fuck that's sad
Jun 25th 2007
10
his whole fucking family?
Jun 25th 2007
11
Damn...RIP
Jun 25th 2007
12
how?
Jun 25th 2007
13
the feds need to regulate wrestling and bodybuilding. now.
Jun 25th 2007
14
I doubt it was something like that if it was the whole fam
Jun 25th 2007
15
The Doc doesn't think this is a typical death.
Jun 25th 2007
17
Too early to say really
Jun 25th 2007
19
if ther were any sign of b&e
Jun 25th 2007
24
      Well the police haven't said anything
Jun 25th 2007
28
           if there were a possible killer on the loose
Jun 25th 2007
38
why he died is irrelevent
Jun 25th 2007
21
      Saw him beat Jarrett and Hart at Mayhem at the ACC in '99
Jun 25th 2007
31
knee jerk and silly response
Jun 25th 2007
48
R.I.P one of my favorite wrestlers of all time
Jun 25th 2007
18
I dunno if I'm gonna be able to watch Raw tonight.
Jun 25th 2007
20
Damn.....RIP
Jun 25th 2007
22
I'd guess murder suicide. n/m
Jun 25th 2007
23
thank you dr. sigmund freud... christ
Jun 25th 2007
44
      why are you getting sensitive? n/m
Jun 25th 2007
61
This is depressing..
Jun 25th 2007
25
i just found out...
Jun 25th 2007
26
fuck.
Jun 25th 2007
27
WTF!!!! What is going on man? RIP
Jun 25th 2007
29
is this for real???
Jun 25th 2007
30
Ironic that Vince was planning this 3hr Raw tribute for his fake death
Jun 25th 2007
32
RE: Chris Benoit & Wife found dead.
Jun 25th 2007
33
confirmed: WSB 2
Jun 25th 2007
34
RE: Chris Benoit & Wife found dead.
Jun 25th 2007
35
Tonight's RAW has been cancelled.
Jun 25th 2007
36
that's much better...
Jun 25th 2007
43
Good call
Jun 25th 2007
46
Going forward, they'd better make SERIOUS revisions to this McMahon
Jun 25th 2007
55
wooooooow.
Jun 25th 2007
37
RE: RIP
Jun 25th 2007
39
I'm mad as hell RIP
Jun 25th 2007
40
A bit off topic, but a valid point nonetheless
Jun 25th 2007
100
every wrestling site i know...
Jun 25th 2007
41
looks like his wife and son were ill
Jun 25th 2007
42
WOW.....vince is being classy.
Jun 25th 2007
45
wf?
Jun 25th 2007
47
when i heard that boring music... i knew i was in for a great match...
Jun 25th 2007
49
Oh my God.
Jun 25th 2007
50
most likely a murder suicide
Jun 25th 2007
51
RIP
Jun 25th 2007
52
this is a fucking tragedy... and makes me HATE vince for faking his shit
Jun 25th 2007
53
yeah the dead angle needs to stop. 2 have died since . and it just
Jun 25th 2007
58
Wade Keller was right for being so upset with that shit
Jun 25th 2007
60
dude its so eerie watching the interviews tonight
Jun 25th 2007
66
      One can only hope
Jun 25th 2007
68
      I'm on the West Coast, so I'll check it out later
Jun 25th 2007
69
           It is clearly over
Jun 25th 2007
71
i was thinking the same thing, i never liked the idea of him fakin his.....
Jun 25th 2007
78
RE: Chris Benoit & Wife found dead.
Jun 25th 2007
54
Not to be a dick, guys, but can we at least wait until the facts come
Jun 25th 2007
56
his entire family died, man.
Jun 25th 2007
57
Rest in Peace...
Jun 25th 2007
59
DAMN..RIP
Jun 25th 2007
62
R.I.P.
Jun 25th 2007
63
Its freaky how many dead peeps are in these highlights
Jun 25th 2007
64
RE: Chris Benoit & Wife found dead.
Jun 25th 2007
65
yes.
Jun 25th 2007
67
atl media says they were slain
Jun 25th 2007
70
murder suicide they're talking about now
Jun 25th 2007
88
rip
Jun 25th 2007
72
whoa wtf?
Jun 25th 2007
73
Man, I got home and heard about this!
Jun 25th 2007
74
WOW thats terrible..................R I P
Jun 25th 2007
75
I cannot believe this.
Jun 25th 2007
76
i hope they don't squeeze this shit like they did eddie's death
Jun 25th 2007
77
RE: i hope they don't squeeze this shit like they did eddie's death
Jun 25th 2007
79
More info (nothing on cause of death yet, though)
Jun 25th 2007
80
this is fucked up, i was turning the channel and came across this
Jun 25th 2007
81
So f'n wierd seeing the end of this Raw
Jun 25th 2007
82
Words cannot begin to describe how devasted I am at this moment.
Jun 25th 2007
83
AJC said the same.
Jun 25th 2007
87
      I just don't understand this at all.
Jun 25th 2007
91
           you can't blame vince and the wwe
Jun 26th 2007
140
I didn't even know he lived a mile away from me
Jun 25th 2007
84
damn, there's been a lot of tragedies these past couple weeks, too many ...
Jun 25th 2007
85
RIP Crippler
Jun 25th 2007
86
They're Saying Its A Murder /Suicide
Jun 25th 2007
89
fuck.
Jun 25th 2007
93
what's with all these families being killed?
Jun 25th 2007
96
      he puts family first
Jun 25th 2007
98
           lmao
Jun 26th 2007
119
           its too early.
Jun 26th 2007
123
being investigated as a murder suicide
Jun 25th 2007
90
confirmed murder suicide
Jun 25th 2007
95
      oh fuck fuck fuck.
Jun 25th 2007
97
I'm going to remind you all once again: now's not the time to be an
Jun 25th 2007
92
Yeah, I need to draw more attention to this post.
Jun 25th 2007
102
Chris Benoit hooked me and my friends up w/ tickets back in the day
Jun 25th 2007
94
Well, not to be a dickhead but frankly, why are some of you so shook?
Jun 25th 2007
99
this is the last guy you'd expect this from.
Jun 25th 2007
103
Chris Benoit was probably the first internet wrestling "hero"
Jun 25th 2007
105
And it's not like the Internet just picked this little dude as its
Jun 25th 2007
108
I don't even watch rasslin anymore, but Benoit is like everyone on
Jun 25th 2007
106
RE: Chris Benoit & Wife found dead.
Jun 25th 2007
101
I can't sleep
Jun 25th 2007
104
This is a real tragedy....
Jun 25th 2007
107
Agreed
Jun 25th 2007
110
RE: This is a real tragedy....
Jun 25th 2007
111
The lifestyle takes such a toll on people
Jun 25th 2007
113
      Where did I say this? Why is my name being brought up here?
Jun 26th 2007
114
      Just trying to make sure this doesn't become a
Jun 26th 2007
137
           Alright, just making sure
Jun 26th 2007
154
      Benoit always came back from injuries alarmingly fast too
Jun 26th 2007
121
I'm so confused right now.
Jun 25th 2007
112
      i feel the same way...
Jun 26th 2007
117
Details.... (Swipe)
Jun 25th 2007
109
Yet ANOTHER update (more specific homicide speculation)
Jun 26th 2007
115
The "Wellness Policy" loopholes have been well established.
Jun 26th 2007
116
thats not a legit reason to prescribe juice
Jun 26th 2007
169
      not if it actually heals an injury.
Jun 26th 2007
192
           youre injured? go to an orthopedist and geta cortisone shot
Jun 26th 2007
197
                I'm not a doctor, but I know...
Jun 26th 2007
235
                     youre thinking of corticosteroids
Jun 26th 2007
238
This would explain Regal's brief and emotionless comment on Raw.
Jun 26th 2007
126
Regal's comments struck me as telling.
Jun 26th 2007
133
Benoit got like the frame of a golfer. Of course he did roids
Jun 26th 2007
132
      that wasn't questioned though...
Jun 26th 2007
135
I've determined how I'm going to deal with this.
Jun 26th 2007
118
no one has the right to judge?
Jun 26th 2007
120
      RE: no one has the right to judge?
Jun 26th 2007
124
      riiiiiiight
Jun 26th 2007
127
           u may be right...
Jun 26th 2007
136
      they would have. you remember the good, not the bad
Jun 26th 2007
129
      Though this is a pretty crude way of putting it... I'd have to agree
Jun 26th 2007
155
      Clean out your motherfucking ears!!!
Jun 26th 2007
201
wow. RIP.
Jun 26th 2007
122
if it turns out dude killed both his wife & kid...his rep is destroyed
Jun 26th 2007
125
was there any mention of what happened to the tag team guy
Jun 26th 2007
128
      Wellington you mean?
Jun 26th 2007
225
one of my favorite wrestlers. he had some EPIC battles.
Jun 26th 2007
130
ugh. i didnt hear anything until this morning.
Jun 26th 2007
131
AP story (swipe)
Jun 26th 2007
134
LOL @ Kevin Sullivan Scripting his own divorce
Jun 26th 2007
141
whether it was a steriod induced outburst or a "mob style" cover up
Jun 26th 2007
138
I was at Wrestlemania 20
Jun 26th 2007
139
co-siggy
Jun 26th 2007
143
this is my own personal theory:
Jun 26th 2007
142
but he's got another kid...
Jun 26th 2007
150
      i don't know. those other kids would still have a parent
Jun 26th 2007
152
was divorce not an option??
Jun 26th 2007
144
As much as I want to know what happened
Jun 26th 2007
145
i'll never understand why these sick fucks always kill the kids
Jun 26th 2007
146
some more speculation:
Jun 26th 2007
147
skeptical
Jun 26th 2007
148
      What he said
Jun 26th 2007
151
Tonight's ECW and SmackDown tapings will happen, BUT... (swipe)
Jun 26th 2007
149
wow, i bet they had to scramble to extend the bill
Jun 26th 2007
222
Front Page Story on CNN.com
Jun 26th 2007
153
RE: Front Page Story on CNN.com
Jun 26th 2007
157
Well Someone needs to take closer look
Jun 26th 2007
158
i blame hip hop
Jun 26th 2007
156
Report: Benoit strangled wife, smothered son, then hung self
Jun 26th 2007
159
Burn in hell, Chris
Jun 26th 2007
160
lol
Jun 26th 2007
196
Essentially.
Jun 26th 2007
245
Damn I really didnt want to see that be the truth
Jun 26th 2007
161
Cosign
Jun 26th 2007
162
      This is going to change the WWE forever
Jun 26th 2007
163
           with the exception of media coverage
Jun 26th 2007
166
                Kinda off-topic, but why would anyone get in at this point?
Jun 26th 2007
170
                     For the same reasons you seriously considered it in HS
Jun 26th 2007
193
Damn. Well, there it is.
Jun 26th 2007
164
Yeah, I didn't watch the tribute show or anything, but I agree
Jun 26th 2007
165
It apparently has already begun (swipe)
Jun 26th 2007
174
couldnt agree more
Jun 26th 2007
167
I actually don't blame them for running a tribute show
Jun 26th 2007
178
oh what the fuck
Jun 26th 2007
168
It's 100% on him. Period.
Jun 26th 2007
180
Cosign
Jun 26th 2007
183
werd. i knew a grip of dudes who roided. they weren't the most
Jun 26th 2007
181
      RE: werd. i knew a grip of dudes who roided. they weren't the most
Jun 26th 2007
198
wow, the ill trifecta
Jun 26th 2007
227
this just doesn't make sense.
Jun 26th 2007
171
Press conference at 3PM ET
Jun 26th 2007
172
I really wanna know what these "curious text messages" said.
Jun 26th 2007
176
      I'm curious too but if it was friends & fam, we may never know... n/m
Jun 26th 2007
184
woman filed for divorce.....man, this shit fucked me up. dude was top 1...
Jun 26th 2007
173
Please tell me this isnt the first time we're hearing about this
Jun 26th 2007
175
      this is the first time i've heard anything about it.
Jun 26th 2007
177
           esp. coming from someone like ryder
Jun 26th 2007
179
wade keller's blog pretty much sums up how i feel right now...
Jun 26th 2007
182
ryder's notes of the press conference
Jun 26th 2007
185
Press Conference Highlights
Jun 26th 2007
186
people blaming steroids, Vince McMahon or anyone else are tripping
Jun 26th 2007
187
As big a fan as I was, you just summed up my feelings here:
Jun 26th 2007
188
RE: As big a fan as I was, you just summed up my feelings here:
Jun 26th 2007
190
steroids can contribute to you snapping, but the shit he did was
Jun 26th 2007
189
Definitley a planned thing
Jun 26th 2007
205
The rasslin lifestyle is indeed fucked up, but at the end of the day
Jun 26th 2007
194
You mean it isn't Kevin Sullivan's fault
Jun 26th 2007
207
^^^REAL TALK
Jun 26th 2007
206
come on bomb. you're being a republican
Jun 26th 2007
213
      how on earth can you connect his environment
Jun 26th 2007
221
      you're just being retarded.
Jun 26th 2007
229
      Shells, 9 out of 10 rasslers are fucked up by the lifestyle
Jun 26th 2007
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      i'm generally not responding to replies in this thread
Jun 27th 2007
267
           its good that youre not replying
Jun 27th 2007
287
                and you guys are defensive and delusional
Jun 27th 2007
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                     RE: and you guys are defensive and delusional
Jun 27th 2007
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                     RE: and you guys are defensive and delusional
Jun 27th 2007
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                          RE: and you guys are defensive and delusional
Jun 27th 2007
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                     same reason we won't have real gun control in this country.
Jun 27th 2007
295
                     the drugs are only part of the answer here
Jun 27th 2007
298
      What does Republicanism have to do with accountability?
Jun 26th 2007
247
another updated swipe
Jun 26th 2007
191
Disgusting and Cowardly
Jun 26th 2007
195
I'm gonna blame the bible for this one
Jun 26th 2007
199
Update
Jun 26th 2007
200
Yikes all around
Jun 26th 2007
202
PWTorch reports contents of Benoit text message to Chavo Guerrero
Jun 26th 2007
203
This was some sadistic shit...
Jun 26th 2007
204
Randy Orton, anyone?
Jun 26th 2007
209
WWE instituting some form of counseling or making life easier for
Jun 26th 2007
236
wrestlers that have died over the years
Jun 26th 2007
208
McMahon to apologize for the tribute show, according to the 'Observer
Jun 26th 2007
211
Stupid
Jun 26th 2007
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no it isn't.
Jun 26th 2007
216
but a tribute when they knew nothing?
Jun 26th 2007
220
there might have been no other option...
Jun 26th 2007
223
Its not
Jun 27th 2007
275
RE: Stupid
Jun 26th 2007
224
That was well done
Jun 26th 2007
226
The son was on growth hormone (Swipe)
Jun 26th 2007
214
How many places is this story gonna go
Jun 26th 2007
215
disgusting
Jun 26th 2007
228
its possible he really needed it
Jun 26th 2007
230
That is why he was on it
Jun 26th 2007
232
      that's a first.
Jun 26th 2007
239
           I knew a kid in high school who was prescribed something
Jun 26th 2007
241
           if youre severely short for your age in comparison to your peers
Jun 26th 2007
243
           i'd like to know how tall this kid was before i buy that
Jun 27th 2007
273
                truthfully its really none of your fuckin business
Jun 27th 2007
282
           the kid had some chromosome defect....
Jun 27th 2007
248
This is really ridiculous...
Jun 27th 2007
257
and yet the drug culture of the wwe has nothing to do with this
Jun 27th 2007
266
      man, what do you not get about this?
Jun 27th 2007
283
      less to do than the "high spot" culture
Jun 27th 2007
300
what the fuck is all of this?
Jun 26th 2007
217
that is pretty much what is happenin
Jun 26th 2007
218
I feel you
Jun 26th 2007
219
the mixed reactions are understandable...
Jun 27th 2007
249
They aren't.
Jun 27th 2007
255
Man, I feel like you NOW...
Jun 27th 2007
260
Vince just did the right thing, the best thing at a time like this.
Jun 26th 2007
231
If TNA is smart they will keep their mouths shut.
Jun 26th 2007
233
yep.
Jun 26th 2007
237
good response from the WWE
Jun 26th 2007
240
they're going to get burned on #3.
Jun 26th 2007
242
true....the toxicology report will rival Anna Nicole
Jun 26th 2007
244
that is some ill shit, he put bibles next to each of them
Jun 26th 2007
246
#4...
Jun 27th 2007
250
      no
Jun 27th 2007
251
      nah, they are right, reeks of premeditation
Jun 27th 2007
252
wwe.com releases timeline and text messages (swipe)
Jun 27th 2007
253
Man, I gotta tell ya, this shit is right up there with Manson & Bundy
Jun 27th 2007
254
RE: wwe.com releases timeline and text messages (swipe)
Jun 27th 2007
256
RE: wwe.com releases timeline and text messages (swipe)
Jun 27th 2007
258
I guess Chavo and Regal
Jun 27th 2007
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      RE: I guess Chavo and Regal
Jun 27th 2007
261
           yeah i just rewatched the regal one on youtube
Jun 27th 2007
274
see, this is where i think vince & wwe fucked up:
Jun 27th 2007
262
      I think they did their best with a lose/lose situation
Jun 27th 2007
263
      agreed
Jun 27th 2007
264
      they didn't KNOW he killed them.
Jun 27th 2007
265
           RE: they didn't KNOW he killed them.
Jun 27th 2007
269
                Hindsight is 20/20 my friend
Jun 27th 2007
270
                     Disagree
Jun 27th 2007
276
                          Dude, we're talking about Faux News, the ilk of bad journalism
Jun 27th 2007
279
The wrestling witch hunt continues (swipe)
Jun 27th 2007
268
this is gonna start a HUGE snowball effect...
Jun 27th 2007
271
RE: this is gonna start a HUGE snowball effect...
Jun 27th 2007
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RE: this is gonna start a HUGE snowball effect...
Jun 27th 2007
278
oh boy this is going to be a shit storm
Jun 27th 2007
272
I suggest everyone here start watching TNA and LIKING it.
Jun 27th 2007
280
RE: I suggest everyone here start watching TNA and LIKING it.
Jun 27th 2007
281
Jay "Black Machismo" Lethal is actually pretty good
Jun 28th 2007
325
Yes, because TNA wrestlers don't do steroids.
Jun 27th 2007
284
I'd venture to say Carter, Jarrett -- even Angle and Cage -- are followi...
Jun 27th 2007
290
that's dumb.
Jun 27th 2007
294
Sooo... Kurt Angle is still alive?
Jun 28th 2007
307
RE: I suggest everyone here start watching TNA and LIKING it.
Jun 28th 2007
317
Is Kevin Nash still on that show?
Jun 28th 2007
337
Now this is really fucked up - Killed son with cripper crossface???
Jun 27th 2007
285
Normally I'd say that's ridiculous
Jun 27th 2007
286
That's what I said too, but with things coming out by the day
Jun 27th 2007
288
      Here's a link to it from postchronicle.com
Jun 27th 2007
292
possibly
Jun 27th 2007
293
Yeah, they said the same thing on the news here in ATL
Jun 27th 2007
305
      But wouldn't that have broke the kids neck
Jun 28th 2007
312
           the crossface was an exaggeration...
Jun 28th 2007
314
                From what I read, most are saying a rear naked choke
Jun 28th 2007
318
The kid was retarded and they were arguing about child care???
Jun 27th 2007
296
yea that makes it even more fucked up
Jun 27th 2007
297
Good interview with Booker T. about Benoit (link)
Jun 27th 2007
299
I've never heard Booker speak so classy
Jun 27th 2007
301
great interview
Jun 27th 2007
303
A good analysis by Wade Keller after Bret's interview on FNC.
Jun 28th 2007
306
So, why isn't Wade doing more TV? Why hasn't the WWE trotted out
Jun 28th 2007
308
      It's funny, because Meltzer, Alvarez, and Marvez...
Jun 28th 2007
319
Bruce Mitchell, on the tragedy. (swipe)
Jun 28th 2007
309
Wow! One of the best articles on this tragedy thus far.
Jun 28th 2007
310
i wouldnt say 'profoundly affected'
Jun 29th 2007
339
i don't always agree w/ mitchell..
Jun 28th 2007
315
This is the best article covering this story
Jun 28th 2007
316
great read
Jun 28th 2007
320
very nice. but i have a question...
Jun 28th 2007
336
      RE: very nice. but i have a question...
Jun 28th 2007
338
I'm lost. Someone give me a one paragraph synopsis.
Jun 28th 2007
311
On Friday night...
Jun 28th 2007
323
Lex Luger speaks on it, among other things
Jun 28th 2007
313
No, he's hanging with Sting and Dibiase.
Jun 28th 2007
321
Faux news reporting that physician's offices were dj drama-ed
Jun 28th 2007
322
STAMFORD???? (swipe)
Jun 28th 2007
324
this just gets stranger and stranger
Jun 28th 2007
326
What...the...Hell?
Jun 28th 2007
327
*ahem*
Jun 28th 2007
330
Benoit posted the murder to Wikpedia?
Jun 28th 2007
328
SPOOKY
Jun 28th 2007
329
I posted that shit in the wrestling thread.
Jun 28th 2007
334
Ya and it was gone when I read it and got there
Jun 28th 2007
335
Hoax (swipe)
Jun 29th 2007
341
      get your cracker pleas right here:
Jun 29th 2007
342
           haha.
Jun 29th 2007
343
           Naugatuck, CT. I actually lived there for a few months
Jun 30th 2007
346
Anybody else wonder if Daniel was really Chris' son?
Jun 28th 2007
331
It has crossed my mind
Jun 28th 2007
332
He looked a lot like Benoit
Jun 28th 2007
333
I'm sorry, but there was no denying that forehead.
Jun 29th 2007
340
      as opposed to kevin sullivan's head?
Jul 02nd 2007
362
The media is trying to tie benoit to sherri's death
Jun 29th 2007
344
A few updates:
Jun 29th 2007
345
my gotdamn goodness.....this is just disgusting in all regards
Jun 30th 2007
347
This thread is flooded with individualistic Christian morals..puke.
Jun 30th 2007
348
^ terrible response
Jun 30th 2007
349
Sorry you feel that way...
Jul 01st 2007
353
      another problem in America: everyone needs to play the blame game
Jul 01st 2007
357
           I'm not blaming in one thing...
Jul 01st 2007
359
                Japan
Jul 01st 2007
360
great insight. i'd like to add something though
Jun 30th 2007
350
Good work emcee e-Thug
Jul 01st 2007
354
      ...because my rhymes are reeeeeeeeeeeal thuggish
Jul 01st 2007
356
except for that sensationalist tag line, The Doc agrees.
Jun 30th 2007
351
Thanks Doc...
Jul 01st 2007
352
I'm With you
Jul 01st 2007
355
please. stop with the bullshit already.
Jul 01st 2007
358
      Don't be a rude piece of shit.
Jul 04th 2007
368
Oh, boy, I know I'm gonna get the crap kicked outta me in here for this.
Jul 02nd 2007
361
for this you get a size 100, Bold, impact font, ------> L
Jul 02nd 2007
363
      Ah, fuck it... maybe I deserve it this once.
Jul 03rd 2007
365
Excellent Article
Jul 03rd 2007
364
great article
Jul 03rd 2007
367
Vince vs. the DEA, Part II.
Jul 03rd 2007
366
His son was sedated when he was murdered
Jul 17th 2007
369

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1. "This does deserve its own post"
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Fuck squeezing this in the wrestling thread

RIP



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9. "yeah i wanted everyone to know."
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210. " If TNA is smart they will keep their mouths shut."
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or if they must, they will only
mention sending condolences to
the related families and little
else.

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2. "Oh wow"
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That's horrible. RIP to both of them. I was a HUGE Benoit fan.

Very sad

EDIT: Just read that again, their KIDS are dead? WTF?

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3. "wow...RIP for real nm"
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4. "i'm shocked as shit."
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and this will be all over the place. how does this even happen?

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5. "Jesus Christ...RIP to one of Edmonton's finest"
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I hope Vince calls off whatever nonsense he has planned tonight to show respects. This is stunning.

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8. "He'll definitley call it off"
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He will come back tonight I bet just to end it and focus on Benoit

or possibly not return at all and have 0 mention of it to not steal the heat then return next week and apologize for a bad idea



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16. "Yeah, WWE.com says it's gonna be a tribute show"
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And that's the only way it should be.

Pro wrestling is just not a good business to get into. Sad that this happened to a real pro.

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6. "RE: Chris Benoit & Wife found dead."
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this is insane.


talk about karma.



im still in shock.


rip to one of the best ever.

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7. "damn...rest in peace"
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one of the best to ever wrestle, for sure.

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10. "fuck that's sad"
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11. "his whole fucking family?"
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i
i can't wrap my head around any of this

  

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12. "Damn...RIP"
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I'm fucking STUNNED...holy shit. His whole family...that's terrible

RIP to a legend

  

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13. "how?"
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i mean how is the whole fam dead? maybe a gas leak or something? that would be crazy if this was a homicide case.

RIP regardless of what happened.

  

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14. "the feds need to regulate wrestling and bodybuilding. now."
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15. "I doubt it was something like that if it was the whole fam"
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Oh, and RIP

  

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17. "The Doc doesn't think this is a typical death."
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Benoit's entire family is gone... foul play is in the air.

  

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19. "Too early to say really"
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Could be a random B&E for all we know. But who knows...what a fucked up situation.

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24. "if ther were any sign of b&e"
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wouldn't the police have already said something about it?


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28. "Well the police haven't said anything"
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So I'm not going to jump to any conclusions.

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38. "if there were a possible killer on the loose"
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they'd say something.

for all I know it could be carbon monoxide poisoning or something, but again, they'd probably just say so.


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21. "why he died is irrelevent"
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you have a major star from the 80s and 90s dying every three months. come on.

btw, rip. i loved benoit. when i was watching in the late 90s, his matches were the highlight whatver broadcast he was in.

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31. "Saw him beat Jarrett and Hart at Mayhem at the ACC in '99"
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Back when wrestling was in its renaissance. He could work like hell.

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48. "knee jerk and silly response"
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I warned you about compassion, Bruce. Ducard/Rah's Al Gul

  

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18. "R.I.P one of my favorite wrestlers of all time"
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...

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20. "I dunno if I'm gonna be able to watch Raw tonight."
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I remember when Eddie Guerrero passed. The show was depressing as HELL. And I wasn't a huge Guerrero fan.

Benoit is different though. That's like one of my top ten. *sigh*

Tonight is gonna be saaaaaaaaaaaaaaad.

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22. "Damn.....RIP"
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23. "I'd guess murder suicide. n/m"
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44. "thank you dr. sigmund freud... christ"
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there is no information or substantial evidence on the cause of death and mofos becoming psychologists...


  

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61. "why are you getting sensitive? n/m"
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25. "This is depressing.."
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I haven't watched wrestling in a long time, but when I kick back and talk with friends about wrestling memories.. it's hard to remember who's alive and who's gone. Too many deaths man, this is terrible.

R.I.P. Benoit. Definitely one of the best to ever step into the ring.

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26. "i just found out..."
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damn. i mean this is one of the greatest performers in the ring. i dunno what to say.

ironically, tonight was supposed to be the 3 hour 'funeral' show.

wow...i'm stunned. so many people respected this guy. so many people looked up to him in the locker room too. this is a huge loss.

  

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27. "fuck."
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i can't even formulate the thoughts right now..

RIP.

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29. "WTF!!!! What is going on man? RIP"
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30. "is this for real???"
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wow...

  

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32. "Ironic that Vince was planning this 3hr Raw tribute for his fake death"
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Grossly ironic.

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33. "RE: Chris Benoit & Wife found dead."
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RIP, man, I can't even wrap my head around this, man.

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34. "confirmed: WSB 2"
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http://www.wsbtv.com/news/13567642/detail.html?rss=atl&psp=news

WWE Wrestler Chris Benoit, Family Found Dead

POSTED: 7:00 pm EDT June 25, 2007
UPDATED: 7:15 pm EDT June 25, 2007

FAYETTE COUNTY, Ga. -- Chris Benoit and his family were found dead in their Fayette County home Monday.

Benoit is a World Wrestling Entertainment wrestler.

Officials said the Benoit family residence is currently being investigated by local authorities.

Benoit was found dead in his home, along with his wife and his son.

Benoit was 40 years old.

Watch Channel 2 Action News for updates on this developing story.
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35. "RE: Chris Benoit &amp; Wife found dead."
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just found out one of his former tag partners Biff Wellington was found dead the day before, damn

  

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36. "Tonight's RAW has been cancelled."
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Vince has allowed the guys to go home and mourn.

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43. "that's much better..."
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than a stupid tribute show.

  

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46. "Good call"
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Show three hours of Benoit highlights please.

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55. "Going forward, they'd better make SERIOUS revisions to this McMahon"
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"death" storyline

Obviously

They can either scrap it or, if they MUST continue with it, change the language to say that Mr. McMahon "disappeared"

And make plans to bring him back ASAP
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37. "wooooooow."
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R.I.P. to one of the best technical wrestlers ever ... man this is crazy.

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39. "RE: RIP"
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i don't watch wrestling any more but RIP and much respect

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40. "I'm mad as hell RIP"
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These people put their bodies on the line 300 nights a year. It's not surprising that they're falling by the wayside. 15-20 years of nonstop touring will cut your life short. There are music parallels. The Ramones traveled for 20 years in a van. Joey Ramone, lymphoma, age 49. Johnny Ramone, prostate cancer, age 55.
Frank Zappa toured relentlessly between 1967-1984, with one more tour in 1988. Frank Zappa, prostate cancer, age 52.

Bringing it back to pro wrestling, these guys have longer travel schedules, wrestle with injuries, some do drugs to cope. They don't last long. They might as well be underwater welders.

Maybe this post belonged in the Wrestling thread, as it has nothing to do with Benoit and his family (either foul play or a freak accident like gas leaks), and if I'm off topic I apologize. I'm sick to my stomach right now. Benoit was one of my favorites to watch over the last ten years. I knew his presence alone would make any match watchable. I feel awful right now. The fact that this comes along at a time that we have to contend with a tasteless McMahon "death" angle only heightens the anger for me.

I will watch tonight. RIP to the Rabid Wolverine. RIP to his family.

Again, I'm sorry if I've gotten off topic, but I'm shock like any of you are.

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100. "A bit off topic, but a valid point nonetheless"
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It's still amazing that they have no union, espescially considering all the shit they put their bodies through.

It's fucked up knowing that dudes do this into their 60's because it's the only way they have of putting food on their table. At least give them a decent pension or something.

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41. "every wrestling site i know..."
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save for dave meltzer's is down right now.

  

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42. "looks like his wife and son were ill"
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http://www.1wrestling.com/news/newsline.asp?news=29026

Details remain very sketchy regarding the tragic news today that Chris Benoit and his family were found dead at their Atlanta area home.

Benoit had been scheduled to appear on a WWE house show on Saturday. Sources tell us Benoit called to first say he would be taking a later flight, and then to say he would not be attending the house show due to a family illness. According to one source, Benoit said both his wife and son were throwing up blood and he needed to stay to take care of them.

At last night's Vengeance pay-per-view, Benoit was replaced in his match by Johnny Nitro.

No other details are available at this time and police are on the scene at the Benoit residence investigating.

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45. "WOW.....vince is being classy."
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49. "when i heard that boring music... i knew i was in for a great match..."
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best dam technical wrestler of our generation... i hope it wasnt some crazy fan

  

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50. "Oh my God."
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I am stunned.

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51. "most likely a murder suicide"
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hopefully it won't turn up to be some sort of roid rage shit
wit the roid witch hunters in full effect this is the last thing ppl need to be hearing about
RIP
i never even seen fam wrestle(he was on wcw when i was watching wrestling)
but i still knew fam moves and all
and damn i ain't even know eddie guerrero died

  

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Olskool
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52. "RIP"
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and I am done with wrestling. I just can't take this anymore.

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53. "this is a fucking tragedy... and makes me HATE vince for faking his shit"
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58. "yeah the dead angle needs to stop. 2 have died since . and it just"
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really is stupid now

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60. "Wade Keller was right for being so upset with that shit"
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Wade Keller runs the pwtorch website, and was thoroughly upset with that they've been doing with this storyline, in terms of the 10-bell salutes and "personal interviews" with the WWE stars

His whole point all along was that, in by doing what could loosely be termed as a "parody" of such situations, McMahon and WWE Kreative (tm) have now rendered such situations meaningless... he said they could have gone in a completely different and campy direction with the "tributes," but didn't
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66. "dude its so eerie watching the interviews tonight"
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after doing the same shit last week, only for real this time.


i thought vince handled the intro speech well, im not forgiving him for creating this situation, but given the circumstances, i thought he handled it well.

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68. "One can only hope"
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...that next week they'll come out and admit they fucked up with the nonsense they've been pulling lately, and a serious situation like this makes them realize how out of control they've been.

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69. "I'm on the West Coast, so I'll check it out later"
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And hopefully Vince's intro won't be his justification to resume his own "death" angle

As I said above, they really should consider changing it to McMahon's "disappearance," if they absolutely HAVE to continue it
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Y2Flound
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71. "It is clearly over"
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He showed up and opened the show, he is just going to scrap that angle



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Ill Jux
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78. "i was thinking the same thing, i never liked the idea of him fakin his....."
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death, and having the wrestlers acting like he really died. now something like this happens, vince's stunt takes something away from what they did on raw.

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54. "RE: Chris Benoit & Wife found dead."
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Tonight, I was all set to watch three hours of BS regarding this whole "Mr. McMahon" dead storyline and then I get punched in the gut by the death of one of the greatest wrestlers to ever get in the ring. Chris Benoit was one of the best. I grew up watching him and his wife. And, now...they along with their young son, are gone. I admit all I want to do right now is cry.

RIP


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56. "Not to be a dick, guys, but can we at least wait until the facts come"
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out before labeling this "another wrestling (ie another steroid-related) death?"

Now is really not the time to be throwing slings and arrows at Vince and his steroid policy

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57. "his entire family died, man."
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59. "Rest in Peace..."
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I can't believe this is happening...

I hope they still do the tribute matches next week. That was a great touch on the Eddie tribute.

  

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62. "DAMN..RIP"
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63. "R.I.P."
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64. "Its freaky how many dead peeps are in these highlights"
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Just shows how short these peoples lives all are

Elizabeth and Woman talking on the outside...eerie



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65. "RE: Chris Benoit & Wife found dead."
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i dunno how much more of this i can watch. this is hard even for me.


this guy has ALWAYS been one of the greats, and his only gimmick was being himself.

i wonder if them sending him to ECW was to make him the champ? wouldnt that make him the first to hold all three world titles?

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67. "yes."
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For all intents and purposes, Benoit was to be the new figurehead of ECW.

However, he wouldn't be the first to win all three "world" titles. That honor goes to the Big Show.
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70. "atl media says they were slain"
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http://www.cbs46.com/index.html

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88. "murder suicide they're talking about now"
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72. "rip"
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benoit was a fave.
no gimmcks or anything.

that crossface was a sick.

prayers go out to the fam.

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73. "whoa wtf?"
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74. "Man, I got home and heard about this!"
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This is a sad situation. RIP


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75. "WOW thats terrible..................R I P"
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76. "I cannot believe this."
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I was a hardcore wrestling fan from age 6 up until just a few years ago, when the product in North America dropped off so tremendously it was painful to keep watching. But when I read the subject of this thread, my heart sank. Chris Benoit was easily the best wrestler of his generation -- better than Eddie, Angle, Foley, Malenko, etc. He was one of only a handful of guys you could watch perform with people who hate wrestling and not be ashamed to be a fan. And for him to go out in what is (no matter what the cause turns out to be) one of the worst tragedies this sport has ever seen is just ... I don't know. I just don't know. Considering the circumstances, this hurts worse than Eddie, maybe even more than Owen.

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77. "i hope they don't squeeze this shit like they did eddie's death"
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I warned you about compassion, Bruce. Ducard/Rah's Al Gul

  

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79. "RE: i hope they don't squeeze this shit like they did eddie's death"
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I would like to think that would be impossible. Although Eddie's death was an absolute tragedy, at least it was natural, to a certain extent. We don't know exactly what killed Benoit, but considering his son and wife went with him, there seems to be no way to ever turn this into even a halfway tasteful angle.

Then again, it is Vince McMahon ...

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80. "More info (nothing on cause of death yet, though)"
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Swiped from pwtorch.com:

>-Benoit missed Saturday's house show. The word backstage was that he had called to say he had a family emergency and couldn't attend. The word backstage Sunday was that he kept pushing his flights back later and later until finally not being able to make it in time for the PPV. WWE officials were unable to contact Benoit all day, so they asked authorities to check his residence. Sources tell PWTorch he was in contact with one friend backstage with what was considered an odd text message late last night. The nature of the message might have created a sense of urgency by mid-day today when no one was able to reach him.

-Vince McMahon broke the news to the wrestlers around 4:30 p.m. CTL this afternoon backstage in Corpus Christy, Tex.. The reaction within the locker room was devastation. A decision was made around that time to cancel the live event entirely and send fans home. Wrestlers were allowed to go home immediately to mourn. Those who knew him and wanted to speak filmed vignettes that aired on Raw tonight. Steve Austin was in attendance at the show to take part in the "Mr. McMahon Memorial." (The plan was for the show to end with "federal investigators" arresting Linda McMahon on suspicion of murder; it would turn out the incompetent "feds" were wrong, though.)

-Vince McMahon opened Raw in center-ring live in an empty arena and announced that while his character, Mr. McMahon, had been killed off, Chris Benoit was really dead. He said therefore they were cancelling Raw and paying tribute to him. The three announce teams took turns introducing matches Benoit wrestled over the years. Those who taped vignettes for him included Austin, Stephanie McMahon, Dean Malenko, and C.M. Punk.

-Benoit's son, Daniel, was seven years old. Chris and Nancy were his biological parents. Nancy was previously married to Kevin Sullivan. Benoit was also previously married and had two children in Canada during that marriage.

-There are no details being released as far as the nature of their deaths, other than authorities saying the deaths were not from gunshot wounds.
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Ill Jux
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81. "this is fucked up, i was turning the channel and came across this"
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82. "So f'n wierd seeing the end of this Raw"
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Eddie and Benoit finally reaching the top and celebrating together, only 3 years ago

3 damn years



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83. "Words cannot begin to describe how devasted I am at this moment."
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I'm taking tomorrow off from work
as I'm really jsut too shook up right
now to think straight.

I called my father at his house and
he claimed he was watching the news,
and it was reported that it was a
suicide/murder.

Please, someone tell me he is wrong?

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87. "AJC said the same."
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there weren't any gunshot wounds or stab wounds, but poisoning or strangulation isn't ruled out.
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91. "I just don't understand this at all."
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I don't want to go pointing
fingers in the wrong direction
but something is terribly wrong
in the WWE. I hope Vince feels
ashamed of himself for continuing
the limo/death angle as long as
he did.

Something is not right with this
guy. It was bad enough to keep
that angle going after Sherri passed
but something is not right with this
man.

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140. "you can't blame vince and the wwe"
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84. "I didn't even know he lived a mile away from me"
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oh shit. I'm watching this on the news now. Murder suicide its looking like? Damn.

  

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85. "damn, there's been a lot of tragedies these past couple weeks, too many ..."
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being killed. RIP Benoit.

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86. "RIP Crippler"
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It's so hard to believe, because they found everyone dead in the house. No one's surprised anymore when we hear wrestlers dying death from drug overdose, but this is just bizarre man.

I wonder if Bret Hart will say anything.

  

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89. "They're Saying Its A Murder /Suicide"
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FAYETTEVILLE, Ga. - WWE wrestler Chris Benoit, his wife, and son were found dead Monday and police said they were investigating the deaths as a murder-suicide.

Detective Bo Turner told television station WAGA that the case was being treated as a murder-suicide, but said that couldn't be confirmed until evidence was examined by a crime lab.

The station said that investigators believe the 40-year-old Benoit killed his wife, Nancy, and 7-year-old son, Daniel, over the weekend, then himself on Monday. A neighbor called police, and the bodies were found in three rooms.

Lead investigator Lt. Tommy Pope, of the Fayette County Sheriff's Department, told The Associated Press the deaths were being investigated as homicide, and that the causes of death awaited autopsy results on Tuesday. Pope said the bodies were discovered about 2:30 p.m., but refused to release details.

The house is in a secluded neighborhood set back about 60 yards off a gravel road, surrounded by stacked stone wall and a double-iron gate. On Monday night, the house was dark except for a few outside lights. There was a police car in front, along with two uniformed officers.

Benoit was a former world heavyweight and Intercontinental champion. He also held several tag-team titles during his career.

"WWE extends its sincerest thoughts and prayers to the Benoit family's relatives and loved ones in this time of tragedy," the federation said in a statement on its Web site.

Benoit was scheduled to perform at the "Vengeance" pay-per-view event Sunday night in Houston, but was replaced at the last minute because of what announcer Jim Ross called "personal reasons."

The native of Canada maintained a home in metro Atlanta from the time he wrestled for the defunct World Championship Wrestling.

The WWE canceled its live "Monday Night RAW" card in Corpus Christi, Texas, and USA Network aired a three-hour tribute to Benoit in place of the scheduled wrestling telecast.

"My relationship with Chris has extended many years and I consider him a great friend," Carl DeMarco, the president of WWE Canada, said in a statement. "Chris was always first-class warm, friendly, caring and professional one of the best in our business."

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93. "fuck."
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96. "what's with all these families being killed?"
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98. "he puts family first"
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notice how he killed them BEFORE he went to the arena? that's dedication.

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123. "its too early."
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90. "being investigated as a murder suicide"
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it's on the AP wire and no, i am not interested enough to swipe it (pain in the ass, it'll be posted to sites soon enough).

they think he did his wife and son in on sunday and then himself today.

apparently he had called wwe organizers and gave them some weird story about his wife and son throwing up blood, probably trying to buy time and/or create a cover.

i won't comment about professional wrestling (people probably know how i feel about the "sport"), but in and of itself this is totally fucked up.

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95. "confirmed murder suicide"
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The following is from WWE.com:

It has been ruled that the deaths of Chris Benoit, his wife Nancy and their son Daniel earlier today were the result of a double murder-suicide from within the home. WWE.com will have more as soon as it becomes available.


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97. "oh fuck fuck fuck."
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92. "I'm going to remind you all once again: now's not the time to be an"
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asshole

Please keep you personal commentaries and shots to yourself (if you're not high, that is)

It's a terrible situation, we already know how some of you feel, no need to rehash that shit here

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102. "Yeah, I need to draw more attention to this post."
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cause it's going to get ugly in here and I don't want to see that yet.

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94. "Chris Benoit hooked me and my friends up w/ tickets back in the day"
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I guess it was like 02 or 03. My friend was friends w/ a guy who knew Benoit and this dude swore he could get us free tickets when they came through (Columbia, SC). Said all he had to do was ask Chris.

Of course, I didn't believe this, but the date came and my friend swore we had tickets, we just had to go to the ticket booth and ask for them.

So we get to the arena and my friend is like "Um, are there any tickets for ______.....they would be from Chris Benoit".

(I'm standing way off to the side not ready to play myself. How many people try to pull something like this lol?)

The booth lady says "Uh, no"............but come back in about half an hour.

I'm certain we're about to look real wack leaving the arena, but we check back and what do you know, our tickets were there! 4 tickets, about lower mid-level, w/ a message from him basically saying "Enjoy the show" (or something like that; I don't remember exactly)

That's still one of the coolest memories I have since it seemed so farfetched. We would watch this dude every Monday and Thursday on tv, put the money together for the PPV's........and that same guy had now gave 4 broke college wrestling fans something to remember.

I haven't watched wrestling regularly in about 3 years, but this news hits very hard.

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99. "Well, not to be a dickhead but frankly, why are some of you so shook?"
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i am asking honestly, this seems to have really rattled some people. i know the dude was a mainstay but i had no idea he was *this* popular.

is it the shock of the incident or the fact that it's him?

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103. "this is the last guy you'd expect this from."
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he was the model for doing things the right way.
overcoming injuries. overcoming the perception that he was too small or too boring.
he was a guy who made his name as the consummate performer, the hard-working guy who came to the office everyday, worked harder than anyone, then taught those other guys how to be more like him.

this is a guy who every young wrestler wanted to be.

also...one of his best friends died tragically not long ago.
benoit was the guy leading the tributes to eddie guerrero.
he was involved in the tributes to owen hart.
he had witnessed so much in his career, and he stood above it.
he kept coming to work.

he SEEMED to stand above it.

but now.
fuck.

  

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105. "Chris Benoit was probably the first internet wrestling "hero""
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And what I mean by that is he was the first guy that the internet wrestling fan community went completely gonzo for. Especially after the famed New Japan Super-J Cup of 1994.

Everyone went to bat for him because he was clearly the best wrestler on the planet (well, IMO top 5 at any given time), but wasn't given a chance because of his size. He won the WCW Championship, but by the time he did so that company was dying.

Everyone saw it come to fruition at WM 20, and was hopeful to see it again, but this happens. No question that he was one of the greatest performers in the last 20 years.
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108. "And it's not like the Internet just picked this little dude as its"
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favorite son for no reason

His athletic ability was right up there with the greats

He knew how to move around that ring, to apply and sell holds and moves

Bottom line, he gave you a helluva an athletic performance everytime he came out there

So even if there's snarky dudes here who don't respect pro wrestling (and really shouldn't be in the post if that's the case), they have to at least respect the concept of a quiet, unassuming and humble athlete who gave their all when they performed
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106. "I don't even watch rasslin anymore, but Benoit is like everyone on"
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the net's #1 GOAT. Dude was like a Canadian Jesus to a lot of the people on the net (rasslin, like all forms of entertainment, is followed differently by people online than in "the mainstream.")

He was like the rasslin equivalent to Ghostface for a lot of people.

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101. "RE: Chris Benoit & Wife found dead."
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a murder suicide tho.....




this is crazy.

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104. "I can't sleep"
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It's been eating at me for hours. I haven't watched a lot of wrestling in recent years, but I was a big Benoit fan when he was in WCW and a part of the 4 Horsemen. This is just really hard to comprehend.

  

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107. "This is a real tragedy...."
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you know Pro Wrestling has had it's share of unstable men....guys whose brains were fried by drugs and steroids....and people who were basiclly just terrible individuals...

Although I would not consider myself currently a wrestling fan...certainly not to the degree I was many years ago...I've never heard of any of those "issues" related to Chris Benoit....

It's possible that Benoit had some depression issues...bi-polar type of issues in his past, but you know he was in a business where guys have a variety of problems...so it's possible his issues flew under the radar...

just very unfortunate situation....


  

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110. "Agreed"
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111. "RE: This is a real tragedy...."
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>you know Pro Wrestling has had it's share of unstable
>men....guys whose brains were fried by drugs and
>steroids....and people who were basiclly just terrible
>individuals...
>
>Although I would not consider myself currently a wrestling
>fan...certainly not to the degree I was many years ago...I've
>never heard of any of those "issues" related to Chris
>Benoit....
>
>It's possible that Benoit had some depression
>issues...bi-polar type of issues in his past, but you know he
>was in a business where guys have a variety of problems...so
>it's possible his issues flew under the radar...
>
>just very unfortunate situation....

By most accounts, Benoit was an emotionally closed-off guy. Even Dean Malenko, one of his best friends, admitted few people ever really got to know him. Those close to him figured this was just his personality, but it's certainly possible he was hiding something much darker.

The effects of the steroids are a possibility, too. When this news first came out, I assumed you couldn't blame the industry for once -- it was either a horrific accident, or some foul play was involved. But now, as it's looking more and more like a murder-suicide that played out an entire weekend, it isn't out of the question that this is yet again another example of the pro-wrestling lifestyle ending someone's life prematurely. Even sadder, it took two innocent people along with him, too.

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113. "The lifestyle takes such a toll on people"
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They spend damn near all year on the road, rarely even seeing home. They abusr their bodies and put the kind of wear and tear on them that no one is meant to sustain (yes, ZooTown, there's also rampant steroid/painkiller/drug use, but that's not the end all be all of this) in a business that isn't afraid to toss you in the garbage when they're used up with you.

Yet, listen to old wrestlers talk about it. They'll keep doing it in high school gyms in front of a few dozen people. It becomes like a drug itself. No matter how raw a deal you've been handed, no matter how old and in pain you are, you never leave the game.

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114. "Where did I say this? Why is my name being brought up here?"
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>They spend damn near all year on the road, rarely even seeing
>home. They abusr their bodies and put the kind of wear and
>tear on them that no one is meant to sustain (yes, ZooTown,
>there's also rampant steroid/painkiller/drug use, but that's
>not the end all be all of this)
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137. "Just trying to make sure this doesn't become a"
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"Wrestlers are always dying early" thread. It wasn't an attack on you, I was just trying to bring up the drugs without making this a "blame rasslin" discussion. Chill.

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154. "Alright, just making sure"
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no problem
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121. "Benoit always came back from injuries alarmingly fast too"
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I would be shocked if he WASN'T hooked on painkillers.

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112. "I'm so confused right now."
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I feel saddened about he and
his family, yet feel angry
about what he did, yet feel
guilty for judging him.

I just don't know what to think
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117. "i feel the same way..."
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so all i'm gonna say is r.i.p. he was an incredible performer.

"the older i get man, the dumber that i was" the grouch

  

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109. "Details.... (Swipe)"
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this is from meltzer though.
fuckin terrible.


http://www.wrestlingobserver.com/wo/news/headlines/default.asp?aID=20003


Sources in the Fayette County Police Department are now working under the theory that Chris Benoit killed Nancy on Saturday, son Daniel on Sunday, and then killed himself earlier today.

Benoit was found dead in his weight room. Nancy was found dead in the lving room. Daniel was found dead in his bedroom, according to an unnamed source in the department.

Lt. Tommy Pope told ABC News "the instruments of death were located on the scene," but didn't specify what those were or where they were found. Pope said the department was not actively searching for any suspects outside the house.

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115. "Yet ANOTHER update (more specific homicide speculation)"
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(yeah, this guy is using a lot of unnamed sources, but I believe him)

According to Keller's audio update, the police believe Benoit suffocated Nancy on Saturday, then his son on Sunday, sent an "alarming" text message to a friend in WWE on Sunday night, and then hung himself on Monday...

Keller said the inside word from within WWE regarding this was that it was "bound to happen," considering the "volatile" relationship Chris and Nancy had... people say that while he was a nice guy to be around, very unassuming, but there was "snap potential" there...

He said when the news broke, there was strong speculation within the company that he had done this, or even that Nancy had done it... "there were a lot of problems going on at home" recently, according to some of the cats in the company, and in general he kept up a wall between himself and most of the wrestlers, never really confided in anyone else within the company...

He said if steroids are found in Benoit's house or in his body (a "roid rage" scenario), then WWE's Wellness Policy will come under serious fire...


The news is only going to get worse from here on out, gang... if all of this is true, then my respect for the guy has been seriously eroded... a sad, sad story...
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116. "The "Wellness Policy" loopholes have been well established."
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First, Vince allowed wrestlers to be on steroids as long as they were prescribed by a doctor (which is partially legit since roids do help heal injuries faster, and has been prescribed for a number of athletes that are hurt).

However, you can see guys getting muscular again. Edge, Chris Masters, Snitsky, etc are back to their previous tones and definitions. There's no question in my mind that Benoit was too.

Then on top of that, Vince stopped the open suspensions punishment and turned it into private fines. I think this was after Orton was punished after last year's WM.
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169. "thats not a legit reason to prescribe juice"
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>(which is partially legit
>since roids do help heal injuries faster, and has been
>prescribed for a number of athletes that are hurt).

this would be improperly dispensing a medication and subject to punishment for both the doctor and patient....

  

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192. "not if it actually heals an injury."
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197. "youre injured? go to an orthopedist and geta cortisone shot"
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anabolic steroids are not an efficient way of healing injuries, nor is it listed as one of the treatment indications in the insert packages of these drugs. hence, youre using the drug for "off label" purposes aka illegaly dispensing the medication.

anabolic steroids are prescribed for hypogonadism (low testosterone levels)....synthetic derivatives such as nandrolone (deca) and oxandrolone (anavar) are RARELY prescribed and when they are, they are used for muscle wasting diseases such as AIDS.

all this is done under tremendous scrutiny by authorities. if you write a script for something like deca or testosterone, 3 copies of the script gets sent to 3 different authorities to be put on record....DEA being one of these authorities.

nobody is prescribing anavar to heal a bum knee. if they are, theyre lying on script triplicate and saying its for something else....and are subject to receiving criminal charges and losing their medical license. you hear about this every now and then, some doctor gets caught prescribing to a bunch of athletes (this happened with the panthers i think a few years ago) and they get into heaps of shit.

back in the 80's, this shit wasnt closely regulated....now it is, and going through a doctor to get your shit isnt realistic....which is why 90% of all the shit that people take is produced in underground labs.

  

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235. "I'm not a doctor, but I know..."
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that different types of steroids have been prescribed to help heal injuries by doctors, and for legitimate reasons.

That doesn't mean that Benoit's use was legit. But, some of them do have an argument for having them. Most don't.
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238. "youre thinking of corticosteroids"
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such as, cortisone. these are commonly referred to as 'steroids' but are different than anabolic steroids.

again, "injury healing" is not a legit medical reason to prescribe somebody testosterone or a synthetic derivative of it.

  

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126. "This would explain Regal's brief and emotionless comment on Raw."
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He was the only one that wasn't overly broken up out of all the people who taped their comments last night. He started off by saying something like "I'd love to sit here some other time and talk to you about how good of a guy Chris was..." and then just proceeded to say that Chris Benoit was one of the most dedicated people EVER to his work and the business. Very politically correct and direct comment. Found it a little odd until now.

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133. "Regal's comments struck me as telling."
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I thought the same thing last night after some of the details came out.

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132. "Benoit got like the frame of a golfer. Of course he did roids"
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If they don't find roids in him, I'd be shocked.

  

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135. "that wasn't questioned though..."
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it was more of whether or not he was still on roids and had them in his house. no doubt he took em, but the wellness policy was supposed to curb, hell, eliminate that.

  

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118. "I've determined how I'm going to deal with this."
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First, let me say that all of us
are going to process this tragedy
differently and there is absolutely
nothing wrong with that. In my
opinion, during a time like this
no one has the right to judge how
others think or feel.

Here's how I'm going to go about
coping with this absurdity...

Considering that there continues
to be mounting evidence suggesting
Chris murdered his wife and son, and
then took his own life, I cannot in good
conscious let him off the hook for doing
something so heinous. I pray with all my
heart that this investigation will conclude
foul play was involved but until then, it
looks as though Benoit committed an
unspeakable act of brutality.

I am saddened by the death of Chris and
his family, and wish there was some way to
bring all three of them back. I truly hope the
Benoit family is resting in peace. Although I
love him for who he once was as a wrestler
and a man, I do not feel that Chris deserves
my respect any longer considering what he
became that fateful night.

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120. "no one has the right to judge?"
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he KILLED HIS FUCKING (innocent) WIFE AND SON fam
that shit is bitchmade
no matter *who* it is
it's fucked up too
cause on raw last night they were treating fam like a hero and such a good guy
i doubt they would've done that if they knew the deal beforehand

  

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124. "RE: no one has the right to judge?"
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>cause on raw last night they were treating fam like a hero and
>such a good guy
>i doubt they would've done that if they knew the deal
>beforehand

From everything I've read it sounds like they did know or at least knew it was a good possibility, before the show aired. And even if you're not sure, if its a possibility at all you've got to hold off on the tribute shows. They will be under a lot of heat for this decision and deservedly so.

  

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127. "riiiiiiight"
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>From everything I've read it sounds like they did know or at
>least knew it was a good possibility, before the show aired.
>And even if you're not sure, if its a possibility at all
>you've got to hold off on the tribute shows. They will be
>under a lot of heat for this decision and deservedly so.

mmm hmm do the show as usual, riiiiiight. oh yeah and the boys knew too. riiiiiight. that's why they talked about how he loved his family. okaydetectives on the case again




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136. "u may be right..."
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but keller also did say the same thing. and he supposedly has a mole in the locker room.

  

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129. "they would have. you remember the good, not the bad"
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>i doubt they would've done that if they knew the deal
>beforehand

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155. "Though this is a pretty crude way of putting it... I'd have to agree"
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That said, the kiddie gloves don't come off until the book is closed on the investigation

  

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201. "Clean out your motherfucking ears!!!"
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I'm not talking about Benoit,
I'm talking about not judging
how OTHERS will COPE and
PROCESS this tragedy.

"Put on your listening ears!" (c) Judge Judy

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122. "wow. RIP."
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125. "if it turns out dude killed both his wife & kid...his rep is destroyed"
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mangled even


<---- im getting 2 of these

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128. "was there any mention of what happened to the tag team guy"
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his old partner? Maybe there is a connection to that as well?

  

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225. "Wellington you mean?"
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Or the dude that died earlier?

I dont think there is any connection, nothing I've read at least.

Killing your family is plenty. Seems like his behavior was a little erratic, not sure what the cause/effect there is though. Was he acting weird because he had planned this or was he experiencing some psychological or neurological problem that caused it?

It seems like he sorta thought things through if he killed them, made up some phony shit about them being VIOLENTLY ill (but no hospital visit) and then just packed it in and killed himself. There also might have been some time inbetween the two murders, seems unclear. He did go through the trouble of tying his wife up and putting bibles by both bodies, so again, maybe some premedidatedness.

Finally (and I think I will leave this thread altogether after this), I'd like to point out that they found a "variety" of prescription drugs and anabolic steroids in the place. Not to be a dick but after reading all the naysaying of people who said murder-suicide (which was reasonably obvious) and connecting to steroid/drug use (not obvious but reasonable), I thought that should be noted.

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130. "one of my favorite wrestlers. he had some EPIC battles."
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131. "ugh. i didnt hear anything until this morning."
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RIP to my favorite wrestler of all time.

RIP to his family.

the acts by which these deaths were brought about is absolutely terrible and really makes me sad. to have someone you respect and admire do something such as this ... its very hard to deal with.

the wwe is in desperate need of a re-evaluation. the constant touring is obviously taking a physical and mental toll on the employees.

very, very sad.

  

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134. "AP story (swipe)"
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not much new, just said it is believed he killed wife and kid, then himself.

Wrestler Benoit found dead with family
June 26, 2007, 7:36AM
By DEBBIE NEWBY Associated Press Writer
2007 The Associated Press


FAYETTEVILLE, Ga. Pro wrestler Chris Benoit canceled a pay-per-view appearance at the "Vengeance" event in Houston because of "personal reasons" a day before he, his wife and their 7-year-old son were found dead in an apparent murder-suicide.

Details of the deaths "are going to prove a little bizarre" when released to the public, Fayette County District Attorney Scott Ballard told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. Autopsies were scheduled Tuesday by the Georgia Bureau of Investigation in DeKalb County.

Authorities were investigating the deaths at a secluded Fayette County home as a murder-suicide and were not seeking any suspects.

Investigators believe Benoit, (pronounced ben-WAH) killed his wife and son over the weekend and then himself sometime Monday. The bodies were found Monday afternoon in three different rooms of the house on Green Meadow Lane, in a subdivision off a gravel road about two miles from the Whitewater Country Club.

Ballard told The Associated Press a gun was not used in any of the deaths. But he declined to say how the three died.

"We're pretty sure we know, but we want to confirm it with the crime lab," Ballard said early Tuesday.

Fayette County Coroner C.J. Mowell did not return phone calls. The answering service for his funeral home said he was out of town.

World Wrestling Entertainment said on its Web site that it asked authorities to check on Benoit and his family after being alerted by friends who received "several curious text messages sent by Benoit early Sunday morning."

Sheriff's Lt. Tommy Pope told WSB-TV that the three were found about 2:30 p.m., but he wouldn't release other details.

Stamford, Conn.-based WWE also said on its Web site it had been asked by authorities not to release further information on the deaths of Benoit, 40; his wife, Nancy, 43; and son, Daniel.

Benoit was born in Montreal. He was a former world heavyweight champion, Intercontinental champion and held several tag-team titles over his career. He was known by several names including "The Canadian Crippler."

"WWE extends its sincerest thoughts and prayers to the Benoit family's relatives and loved ones in this time of tragedy," the company said in a statement on its Web site.

Benoit had maintained a home in metro Atlanta from the time he wrestled for the defunct World Championship Wrestling.

The WWE canceled its live "Monday Night RAW" card in Corpus Christi, Texas, and USA Network aired a three-hour tribute to Benoit in place of the scheduled wrestling telecast.

Benoit's wife managed several wrestlers and went by the stage name, "Woman," The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported.

They met when her then-husband drew up a script that had them involved in a relationship as part of an ongoing story line on World Championship Wrestling, the newspaper said.

Benoit has two other children from a prior relationship.

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141. "LOL @ Kevin Sullivan Scripting his own divorce"
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138. "whether it was a steriod induced outburst or a "mob style" cover up"
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the WWE has some explainin to do.

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139. "I was at Wrestlemania 20"
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I remember coming in there wanting Triple H to win, and what's cool is no one really knew who was going to come out of that match the champ. Initially, all three wrestlers got pretty even responses but out of the 12 or so wrestling shows I've been to in my life this was by far the illest. About halfway through the crowd figured out that it was Benoit's turn. Here's this little scrappy ass dude going at it with two of the greats and they kept trying to steal the show and he just kept coming, looking back I realize that's the story they were trying to tell with that match, essentially the story of his entire career. Wrestlemania 20 was the last time I was truly moved and cared about wrestling and I can honestly say that I haven't watched the show since Benoit and Eddie were champs.

I think it's time the WWE considers going part-time. Start the season with the Royal Rumble and end the season in September or October with Survivor Series. In the meantime, the writers can carefully lay out and organize everything they want to get done in their months of operation and the wrestlers themselves can get a few months of much needed and deserved rest. It's a win win situation to me, but of course money will surely keep that from happening. But I'll be damned if this isn't a foretelling sign that something needs to change.

  

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143. "co-siggy"
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>Wrestlemania 20 was the last time I was truly moved and cared about >wrestling and I can honestly say that I haven't watched the show >since Benoit and Eddie were champs.

i marked *HARD* that sunday night when HHH finally tapped. never has a wrestling match made me jump out of my seat at a friends place and yell "TAP YOU BITCH!" at the screen repeatedly. the sight of eddie & benoit in the ring together was priceless.

>I think it's time the WWE considers going part-time. Start the
>season with the Royal Rumble and end the season in September
>or October with Survivor Series. In the meantime, the writers
>can carefully lay out and organize everything they want to get
>done in their months of operation and the wrestlers themselves
>can get a few months of much needed and deserved rest. It's a
>win win situation to me, but of course money will surely keep
>that from happening. But I'll be damned if this isn't a
>foretelling sign that something needs to change.

wwe going public was the worst decision ever because the company now needs to answer to stockholders and their desire for profitable investment. it is obvious that they need to take a step back and re-evaluate themselves and their business schedule & practices, but i doubt the stockholders will allow it because the price would take a hit every "offseason".

  

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142. "this is my own personal theory:"
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he and his wife were arguing, and he killed her
then he knew his life and career were over
didn't want his son to go through losing his mom and the disgrace of his father. very confused
killed him,
then killed himself

just what i think happened

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150. "but he's got another kid..."
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maybe two more w/ another marriage.

then again...no sense putting any reason behind this.

  

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152. "i don't know. those other kids would still have a parent"
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I warned you about compassion, Bruce. Ducard/Rah's Al Gul

  

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144. "was divorce not an option??"
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from what i have read it seems as if they had a troubled history together, so why not part ways, obviously staying together was not good for the family.


  

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145. "As much as I want to know what happened"
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I wish I didn't have to hear it.

The more I sit and think about this the more and more wierded out by the whole thing I get.

One of the GOAT, a stand up guy, everyone loved him and he murders his wife and kid? I just don't even see how, I kind of wish this whole story could just go away before his entire legacy is ruined.

Such a shame



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146. "i'll never understand why these sick fucks always kill the kids"
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i can see killing a spouse in the heat of an argument, but then why not just do yourself and leave the kid out of it. i hope he rots in hell.

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147. "some more speculation:"
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this speculation prolly makes it harder for some of the people on here who are grieving, but i read this whole thread and didn't see anyone presume that anything else had happened, other than chris benoit killing his whole family...again, its just speculation, and hearsay, and i'm sorry for everyone who's grieving over this...

I got this from another web site and i'm not sure how much truth there is to it or not:

"My second cousin is an officer with GBI (Georgia Bureau of Investigations) and what he's heard in his circle is that Chris Benoit's wife killed their son Daniel, called Chris and told him to rush home because of an emergency which is why he missed last Sunday's Vengeance PPV. Upon arriving home Benoit killed his wife in a rage for the death of his son and then killed himself Monday morning. His wife's body was found in the master bedroom, strangled with the cord from an alarm clock. The son's body was found in his room apparently suffocated with a garbage bag. Chris then wrote a suicide note explaining what had happened, apologized to his family, his other children (from a separate relationship), and his fans. He then fashioned a slip-knot noose from from rope taken from the garage and hung himself from the banister in the foyer of his suburban Atlanta home."

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148. "skeptical"
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>"My second cousin is an officer with GBI (Georgia Bureau of
>Investigations) and what he's heard in his circle is that
>Chris Benoit's wife killed their son Daniel, called Chris and
>told him to rush home because of an emergency which is why he
>missed last Sunday's Vengeance PPV. Upon arriving home Benoit
>killed his wife in a rage for the death of his son and then
>killed himself Monday morning. His wife's body was found in
>the master bedroom, strangled with the cord from an alarm
>clock. The son's body was found in his room apparently
>suffocated with a garbage bag. Chris then wrote a suicide note
>explaining what had happened, apologized to his family, his
>other children (from a separate relationship), and his fans.
>He then fashioned a slip-knot noose from from rope taken from
>the garage and hung himself from the banister in the foyer of
>his suburban Atlanta home."

i would love to believe this, but wasnt it already reported - not posted on a web forum - that she was found in the living room and benoit was in his weight room? also, wasnt it reported that the wife died saturday, the son on sunday and benoit himself on monday?

i think this is a fans attempt at explaining the situation in such a way to keep his legacy intact - as much as it can be.

i am going to try and withold judgement until the full story can be told.

  

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151. "What he said"
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149. "Tonight's ECW and SmackDown tapings will happen, BUT... (swipe)"
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from the observer:

>Notes on tonight's WWE TV show in San Antonio

by Dave Meltzer

Dave@wrestlingobserver.com

The lack of an understandable explanation to the circumstances of the death of Chris, Nancy and Daniel Benoit has left virtually the entire wrestling community reeling.

Within WWE, the obvious questions and lack of answers are no different from fans and most of his long-time friends.

Vince McMahon was the inspiring general both to the wrestlers as well as the office staff all day yesterday. He held it together and was a rock of strength for much of the talent, which because of their admiration and in many cases love for Benoit, were saddened, perplexed and having an incredibly difficult time dealing with it.

Vince made the decision to run Smackdown and ECW tapings tonight without any angles or backstage storylines. The show will consist of straight wrestling matches and like last night, the original shows were scrapped. The attempt to put together a show was difficult because the crew and creative staff were said to be both emotionally and physically wrecked after yesterday.

The belief is they will brief viewers on what happened early in the show, and then product two low key shows of nothing but matches.
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222. "wow, i bet they had to scramble to extend the bill"
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is ecw any good these days? that was the one fed i followed from like 95-2000

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153. "Front Page Story on CNN.com"
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I like to see it getting coverage, but something tells me this is going ito turn into a bash wrestling and the lifestyle story very quickly now that the media has the murder suicide angle to run with.

Not saying Benoit should be forgiven if that is what happened, but it just sucks that the media is going to love to blow it up now that its a story with some blood on it.



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157. "RE: Front Page Story on CNN.com"
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>I like to see it getting coverage, but something tells me
>this is going ito turn into a bash wrestling and the lifestyle
>story very quickly now that the media has the murder suicide
>angle to run with.
>
>Not saying Benoit should be forgiven if that is what happened,
>but it just sucks that the media is going to love to blow it
>up now that its a story with some blood on it.


Indeed. The media is salivating for the sensationalism angle on this. If toxicology find roids in Benoit's system, it's going to be another black eye for WWE, even though the guy might have killed in spite of roids.

  

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158. "Well Someone needs to take closer look"
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I could give less than a damn about sensationalizing this. I can count a dozen wrestlers off the top of my head that were dead before they turned 50 in the past decade. Something is very wrong in the culture of Pro Wrestling right now.

Vince wanted mainstream media attention? Well now he's gonna get it in spades.

Edit: The Short List

Eddie
Rick Rude
Curt Hennig
Hawk
Sherri Martel
Bobby Duncam Jr
Louie Spiccoli
Owen Hart
Ms. Elizabeth
Chris and Nancy
Crash Holly
Yokozuna
Renegade
Johnny Grunge and Rocco Rock
Big Bossman
and on and on..........

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156. "i blame hip hop"
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159. "Report: Benoit strangled wife, smothered son, then hung self"
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http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=2917133

Associated Press
Updated: June 26, 2007, 1:00 PM ET

ATLANTA -- Pro wrestler Chris Benoit strangled his wife and smothered his son before hanging himself in his weight room, a law enforcement official close to the investigation told The Associated Press Tuesday.

The official spoke on the condition of anonymity.

Authorities also said they are investigating whether steroids may have been a factor in the deaths of Benoit, his wife and their 7-year-old son who were found dead in an apparent murder-suicide.

Fayette County District Attorney Scott Ballard said test results may not be back for weeks or even months.

Autopsies were scheduled Tuesday by the Georgia Bureau of Investigation in DeKalb County.

Benoit canceled a pay-per-view appearance at the "Vengeance" event in Houston because of "personal reasons" a day before the three were found dead.

World Wrestling Entertainment said on its Web site that it asked authorities to check on Benoit and his family after being alerted by friends who received "several curious text messages sent by Benoit early Sunday morning." The WWE canceled its live "Monday Night RAW" card in Corpus Christi, Texas.


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160. "Burn in hell, Chris"
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161. "Damn I really didnt want to see that be the truth"
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162. "Cosign"
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163. "This is going to change the WWE forever"
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Drug testing, psychology, tour dates, coverage in the media, how people look at it (as if they could look any worse upon it)

man im just in shock


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166. "with the exception of media coverage"
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all the things you mentioned should have a positive effect on the business.

what i want to know is whether the company will be able to pull it off being a publicly traded entity? will the stockholders force the issue? or will wwe have to buy up all the stock in order to execute the touring changes the wrestlers need?

  

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170. "Kinda off-topic, but why would anyone get in at this point?"
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Even if they clean a lot of the stuff up, what's the upside of becoming a professional wrestler in this day and age? As someone who heavily considered it when I was in high school, I just don't see the positives.

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193. "For the same reasons you seriously considered it in HS"
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It's always been this dangerous. But the allure is always going to be there. That's why they'll never unionize. One guy doesn't want to kill himself on the road 300+ days a year? Vinny can make one phone call and get dozens of potential replacements who will.

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164. "Damn. Well, there it is."
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Can't say I'll look at the man in the same way again

And as far as "WWE paying tribute to a murderer" goes, it was a tough call to do the tribute show; I agree with Keller, who said they should have just done an hour tribute, then repeated it twice to fill the 3-hour slot, or not repeated it at all

Had they not done anything -- or just proceded as normal -- then people would have been up in arms about THAT

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165. "Yeah, I didn't watch the tribute show or anything, but I agree"
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they had to do it.

Though they'll try and distance themselves from him with the quickness.

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174. "It apparently has already begun (swipe)"
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>Though they'll try and distance themselves from him with the
>quickness.

Airbreed posted this over in GD

>-WWE.com has started to take mentions of Chris Benoit off of the site. They have taken down all tribute pieces and are just running the main, "The Tragedy Unfolds" news. All of the video tributes have been removes as well as other tributary mentions. Even Carl Demarco's tribute piece has been removed.

-WWE Shopzone has pulled all merchandise related to Chris Benoit. Searches for Benoit's name in the website's search engine are returned with the message, "discontinued."

-WWE is even going as far as removing mentions of Benoit in DVD listings. For example, the WrestleMania XX DVD description now reads, "Triple H defends his World Heavyweight Championship against Shawn Michaels."
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167. "couldnt agree more"
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>Can't say I'll look at the man in the same way again.

after hearing this news first thing in the morning, all i wanted to do was watch my benoit dvd.

now ... i dont know if i can even look at the box.

  

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178. "I actually don't blame them for running a tribute show"
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They didn't officially "know" what happened until today. They might have heard something was very, very, very, but tt wasn't like any WWE employees were taking part in the investigation on the scene.

These guys had just lost a good friend, were probably saddened and confused by it all, and didn't have access to all the information. Given all of that, they weren't in the wrong for running the three-hour tribute.

  

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168. "oh what the fuck"
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>
>Authorities also said they are investigating whether steroids
>may have been a factor in the deaths of Benoit, his wife and
>their 7-year-old son

this was a vile, extremely disturbed individual....but we're gonna scapegoat steroids?

could maybe the other 1,834 drugs this guy was probably using may have played a role....or maybe more specifically the actual mind altering drugs he was using?

sad.

  

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180. "It's 100% on him. Period."
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I don't care if it was 'roids, X or fucking Nyquil

If you let your chemical dependency(s) take you to this point... fuck your life. You're a monster.

  

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183. "Cosign"
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Figure he was probably on the juice, HGH, and hella painkillers etc., but if you kill your wife on Saturday, and then smother your son on Sunday its on you. He chose to put the poison in his body.

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181. "werd. i knew a grip of dudes who roided. they weren't the most"
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angelic of individuals. matter of fact, they stayed in trouble. but they ain't kirk out in the dorms and kill they girl or no shit like that.

was it a factor? could have been. but we can't absolve him from any responsibility.

damn.

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198. "RE: werd. i knew a grip of dudes who roided. they weren't the most"
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>angelic of individuals. matter of fact, they stayed in
>trouble.

they were in trouble before they ever started that shit though, right? juice might make an asshole into a slightly bigger asshole. they dont take a regular cat and turn him into a monster....or even take a regular cat and make him into an asshole. if youre a hothead to begin with, you'll be a slightly bigger one.


>was it a factor? could have been.

id like to hear how any person of science could prove that it was a factor....any more than the hundreds of other drugs in his system was. its called a controlled experiment....and this is definitely not one.

anytime a wrestler keels over people holler steroids....does anybody have any clue what abusing coke, E, ampethamines, pain killers can do to your body? the type of stress that shit can put on your heart?

  

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227. "wow, the ill trifecta"
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171. "this just doesn't make sense."
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none of it.

chris benoit was one of my heroes. and for things to end up like this. i.. i just don't understand it.

this is sad, sick, depressing, heartbreaking. just a tragedy on all fronts.

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172. "Press conference at 3PM ET"
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should be all over cable news.

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176. "I really wanna know what these "curious text messages" said."
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I wish I could see this press conference but I'm in the freakin' office.

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184. "I'm curious too but if it was friends & fam, we may never know... n/m"
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Especially if the messages refer specifically to the murders. I can't see Chavo or Malenko putting his business in the streets like that.

But I've been wrong before.

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173. "woman filed for divorce.....man, this shit fucked me up. dude was top 1..."
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NANCY BENOIT FILED FOR DIVORCE IN 2003; CITED DOMESTIC ABUSE
By: Bob Ryder
6/26/2007 12:54:44 PM

Nancy Benoit filed for divorce in May 2003 and claimed domestic abuse in her court filings. A petition seeking protection from domestic abuse said she was intimidated by threats of violence from her husband Chris Benoit.

A restraining order was issued on May 12, 2003 against Chris Benoit that barred him from the couple's then residence in Peachtree City. On August 19, 2003, Nancy Benoit filed to dismiss the divoce petition as well as the protective restraining order.

friends close to the couple tell us that they had a very rocky relationship and would often have "blowups" that would lead to Chris Benoit leaving for a day or so to "cool off".

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175. "Please tell me this isnt the first time we're hearing about this"
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177. "this is the first time i've heard anything about it."
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and i follow the wrestling business very closely.

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182. "wade keller's blog pretty much sums up how i feel right now..."
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both keller and the email..

http://www.pwtorch.com/artman/publish/article_20635.shtml

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KELLER'S BLOG: Thoughts on the Benoit Tragedy

Jun 26, 2007, 12:36

I will be updating this blog regularly as news breaks or as I have additional thoughts or comments on this story...

UPDATED: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 - 12:46 p.m.

-I just want to acknowledge all of the emails many of you have been sending regarding Benoit, expressing your feelings about this situation. I will be posting your comments in the Torch Feedback section as soon as there is a break in the reporting aspects of this story. Here is one email I just received that is representative of the tone of most of them I have received today...

Hi Wade,

I'd just like to say that while I'm having a really hard time figuring out how the f--- I should feel about this whole Benoit situation, I think your blog about it was helpful, in a way.

For me, it's just really hard to deal with the dual realization that a man who I admired for years, is both dead and a murderer. I realize that this dude has done something unspeakably horrible and unforgivable, but I still can't just erase the fact that I have a ton of fond memories of the guy, from my childhood up until about 24 hours ago. It's a really complicated thing, it's so hard to mix these two things together in my mind, and I think a lot of people feel the same way... and well, I just appreciate that you're not totally condemning the man, and you're not disregarding the past however many years. The line about having sympathy for Nancy and Daniel, while pitying Chris, I just found that really truthful.

I also appreciate how tough this must be for you to cover, but it's been really helpful to keep up to date with this whole insane situation.

I know you probably don't need to be hearing everybody's thoughts on this stuff, but I just basically wanted to say thanks.

Leigh

UPDATED: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 - 12:25 p.m.

-There are wrestling and steroid website reports attributing me with reporting that a large amount of steroids were found in Chris Benoit's home. I have not reported this.

On that subject, though, if steroids are found in his home or in his toxicology reports, the issue of "roid rage" potentially contributing to his strangling of his wife during a heated domestic argument could turn into a big media story that will lead to scrutiny of the WWE Wellness Policy and how thorough they were in taking action on wrestlers who tested positive, and the frequency (or infrequency) of the tests.

ABCNews.com's latest updated story states: "Additional toxicology reports, which could determine whether Benoit was using steroids at the time of his death, are expected to take at least two weeks."

UPDATED: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 - 11:11 a.m.

Here are some random thoughts that reflect what I've been thinking and talking about the past 20 hours...

-Raw last night was a mistake. WWE personnel had reason to believe (because I did at that point from people I was talking to) that it was a murder-murder-suicide and that Chris Benoit was likely the perpetrator (based on what I was told about the text message contents they received the day before). Doing a tribute show to someone who very possibly had just killed his wife and son was a bad call. Now, that said, I soften my criticism in this respect: As after the Owen Hart death, people were under duress and not thinking clearly and had a three-hour show to create quickly. Not acknowledging Benoit would seem crass, if not presumptuous of his guilt. The tribute to him as a great family man may have been a true reflection of the person they knew, but it does in retrospect seem akin to a Hollywood or sports world tribute to O.J. Simpson's contributions as the details were sketchy regarding what happened with his wife.

-What was the other option? Cancel the show entirely and air reruns of a USA Network movie or syndicated series in its place with a crawler at the top of each hour explaining the cancellation. Or have Vince introduce the show as he did in mid-ring, then broadcast a PPV or a previous edition of Raw or even a DVD documentary on tag teams or another innocuous subject. That'd be my call, and it's not a case of 20/20 hindsight because everyone in WWE suspected what's come out today, with less precise detail of course, at the time that show was put together. Wrestlers can mourn without cameras filming them.

-Vince McMahon did the right thing to appear on camera last night. He needed to end the death angle of Mr. McMahon immediately. One of the reasons they did the empty arena show was because they had already ruined the ten bell salute and sacred stage gathering scenes previously used for Owen Hart, Eddie Guerrero, and the victims of 9/11. To do that for Benoit after doing a fake one for McMahon wouldn't have felt right. After saying repeatedly after Owen Hart died, and repeating it for the Mr. McMahon storyline the last two weeks, the phrase "the show must go on," the show could not go on after the horrible incident at the Benoit family residence.

-WWE is making the right decision today - the only decision other than cancelling ECW and Smackdown this week - and that is to briefly address the situation at the start of the show, and then present straight wrestling matches without any angles or further mentions of Benoit.

-It is really sad for those of us who admired Chris Benoit's work over the years that his body of work is now permanently soiled. No match of his will ever be rewatched and appreciated the same way. Having said that, nothing about his pro wrestling body of work being ruined is the least bit relevant relative to the tragic death of his seven year old. I cannot imagine a worse death than your father smothering you after being a state of sheer petrified fright for however many hours it was since you last heard your mother arguing with your father. Absolutely horrible.

-In my nearly 20 years covering pro wrestling full time, this is the saddest time and hardest story to cover. Chris Benoit was well-liked by fellow wrestlers and so respected for his contributions to the industry in the ring. He conducted himself like a professional. The main image of him that fellow wrestlers have is him walking around backstage in his slacks, shirtless, carrying a cup of coffee around. As I talked about yesterday in my VIP Daily Keller Hotline, Benoit didn't laugh or smile a lot, but when you got a laugh or smile out of him, it meant something. Few people called him a close friend, but no one had a bad word to say about him. He was all about his job and being "one of the boys." He also loved his family. He had no reputation of physical abuse. It's what makes this story so much more difficult for those who knew him to comprehend what has happened. It will never make sense. Piecing together the "whys" and "hows" will help many cope. I have nothing by sympathy for Daniel and Nancy. I pity Benoit, as a nice man was driven to horrible, evil actions that will define him and his life in a sad way that will haunt wrestling fans forever.

-Finally, my apologies to those of you who had trouble getting onto the site last night. We had record traffic for the site, far exceeding anything previously, and our server which has served us well previously just couldn't handle the demand because of the number of articles and updates we were posting. The site never crashed, but it was at maximum bandwidth most of the night.

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185. "ryder's notes of the press conference"
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fox news appears to be using the wwe and vkm as a scapegoat for the whole situation. they had folks on talking about how pro wrestling should be held accountable in the same way mlb and nfl are regarding steroid use/misuse.


HIGHLIGHTS OF PRESS CONFERENCE ON BENOIT TRAGEDY
By: Bob Ryder
6/26/2007 3:34:24 PM

Authorities conducted a press conference this afternoon regarding the deaths of Chris, Nancy, and Daniel Benoit. Here are highlights from the press conference:

# Authorities have ruled the deaths were a result of a murder suicide.

# Test results indicate that Chris Benoit killed his wife Nancy "sometime on Friday" and his son Daniel "sometime on Saturday". Test results show that Chris Benoit killed himself sometime "later on Saturday".

# A bible was found placed next to the bodies of Nancy and Daniel.

# Nancy was found in a family room upstairs. Daniel was found in his bed.

# Chris was found hanging in the weight room in the basement.

# Authorities found "a lot" of prescription drugs at the scene, including anabolic steroids.

# Authorities are aware of only one prior arrest for Chris Benoit, for DUI.

# Scott Ballard, the District Attorney handling the case, said he termed the killings "bizarre" because of the timing of the deaths and that he remained in the house for some period of time after killing Nancy and Daniel.

# Ballard said, "I'm baffled why anybody would kill a 7 year old baby.

# Nancy was bound on her feet and wrists and wrapped in a towel.

# Text messages received by friends were received several hours after they were sent, perhaps explaining reports that messages were sent during the day on Sunday.

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186. "Press Conference Highlights"
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- The sheriff's office said Benoit suffocated Nancy on Friday, suffocated the son on Saturday, then hung himself on Sunday; Nancy was found in what appeared to be a family room, Daniel was in his bed, and Chris was found down in the basement weight room

- The District Attorney noted that Bibles were placed by Nancy and Daniel's bodies, and that Nancy was bound by her hands and feet, and there was blood under her hair

- No suicide note

- The sheriff's office noted that there were "lots" of legal prescription medications in the home, and some were anabolic steroids, but he could not say with certainty that those were the direct cause of the murders

- The D.A. refused to elaborate on what the text message said

- The sheriff was unaware of any previous domestic assault charges, but mentioned a previous arrest for a DUI

I should also note that while the press conference was happening, CNN first cut to a photo of Chris, sporting a black eye and looking scruffy, standing with Nancy
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187. "people blaming steroids, Vince McMahon or anyone else are tripping"
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this guy snapped, killed his wife and own seed, then took himself out so he wouldn't have to spend the rest of his days looking at the blood on his hands.

This guy was obviously an unstable asshole and he did this on his own volition, not because of cycling roids or the pressures of road life in a scripted sport.

Quite simply, fuck this piece of shit. There's no one worth blaming other than him and he will be known forever as a cocksucker who killed his wife and child rather than as a great wrestler. That's a small price to pay for the horror he's inflicted.

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188. "As big a fan as I was, you just summed up my feelings here:"
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>Quite simply, fuck this piece of shit. There's no one worth
>blaming other than him and he will be known forever as a
>cocksucker who killed his wife and child rather than as a
>great wrestler. That's a small price to pay for the horror
>he's inflicted.

I don't think I'll ever be able to watch any matches of his ever again, at least without thinking how horrible he was.

although I do think the road schedule is NOT helping, we can approach that in another post IMO.

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190. "RE: As big a fan as I was, you just summed up my feelings here:"
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>>Quite simply, fuck this piece of shit. There's no one worth
>>blaming other than him and he will be known forever as a
>>cocksucker who killed his wife and child rather than as a
>>great wrestler. That's a small price to pay for the horror
>>he's inflicted.
>
>I don't think I'll ever be able to watch any matches of his
>ever again, at least without thinking how horrible he was.
>
>although I do think the road schedule is NOT helping, we can
>approach that in another post IMO.
>
oh yeah, I'm not denying the litany of issues involved in the wrestling life......but that's another post.

This man killed his wife and child. The accountability for that fact ends with him.

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189. "steroids can contribute to you snapping, but the shit he did was"
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cold, calculated and brutal...just disgusting and horrific. you don't do all that shit on a whim, shit was planned...putting bibles by their bodies, killing the wife on friday, son on saturday, and offing himself on sunday? this shit is mind bogglin.

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205. "Definitley a planned thing"
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194. "The rasslin lifestyle is indeed fucked up, but at the end of the day"
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This murder lies on Benoit's shoulders. He killed his wife and son in cold blood.

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207. "You mean it isn't Kevin Sullivan's fault"
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for originally setting him and his wife up?

fucking stupid people and thier stupid scapegoating

The man killed his family, like he just said thats the only thing that matters



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206. "^^^REAL TALK"
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213. "come on bomb. you're being a republican"
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sure, this dude deserves the vast bulk of the responsibility for this act. he was everything you said he was.

but there are, hate to say, individuals with the potential to do such a thing walking around in every line of work right now. it is very appropriate to ask whether an environment enables or disuades an individual from commiting these actions. if we think the environment directly enabled a heinous act, we can find fault with it and demand that it change or be changed.

in other words, FEDERAL FUCKING REGULATION.

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221. "how on earth can you connect his environment"
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Tue Jun-26-07 08:36 PM by 3xKrazy

          

to the absolutely disgusting, premidated and calculating crime that this shithead committed?

and if you can connect it, then get rid of the entire "sport" completely....

what exactly are you looking for the government to "regulate"? wrestling is what it is....a cuthroat and physically demanding business. what is supposed to change?

so now anytime some psycho goes off the deep end, his profession has to be held responsible?

  

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229. "you're just being retarded."
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Can you even name another crime like this happening within professional wrestling within the last, say, 20 years?

You'll probably find more instances within the NFL, or within the NBA than you would in wrestling.

It's a stupid assertion, and you know it.
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234. "Shells, 9 out of 10 rasslers are fucked up by the lifestyle"
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A lot of rasslers have a lifetime of injuries, broken marriages, damaged friendships, distant relationships with their children who they never see, financial troubles and drug/alcohol problems.

The lifestyle is fucked up.

But most of the guys who deal with this shit DON'T MURDER THEIR FAMILIES IN COLD BLOOD.

Federal regulation or a union (which I think WWE needed like 50 years ago) wouldn't have prevented this.

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267. "i'm generally not responding to replies in this thread"
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because i think the facts--40 some deaths of guys under 40 in the last 25 years, isn't that the fact bill simmons dug up yesterday?--are better and more damning than any response i can give.

but..

>Federal regulation or a union (which I think WWE needed like
>50 years ago) wouldn't have prevented this.

are you sure? 100 percent sure? because, to me, you can contruct a chain of events wherein the wwe deserves part of the blame very easily:

1) the wwe promotes drug use among its employees
2) drugs have been shown to exacerbate short term irrationality and aggression
3) those things were almost certainly at play in the murder

would benoit have been fucked up without the drugs? no way to know. was he MORE fucked up because of the drugs? almost certainly.

federal. regulation. now.

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287. "its good that youre not replying"
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because you'd get sonned in almost everyone of your posts.

your respsonses are beyond knee-jerk and irrational....dissapointing.

  

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289. "and you guys are defensive and delusional"
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one guy dies, no blame.

two guys die, no blame.

forty guys die, might be time to consider regulating the industry.

edit: trying to argue this is an isolated incident and completely ignoring the trend of early deaths and the likelihood that drugs contributed to benoit's mind state...i mean, how much denial do you have to be in?

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291. "RE: and you guys are defensive and delusional"
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Wed Jun-27-07 04:37 PM by 3xKrazy

          

>forty guys die, might be time to consider regulating the
>industry.

can you sort of give me an idea of what you mean by "regulate"? what is your plan of action? are you talking specifically testing for steroids....or the rec drugs, painkillers, amphetamines and god knows what else as well?

would you like to implement IOC style steroid testing in the WWE? any idea how expensive that is? would you like to be contributing to that cost?

and this is just drugs....theres a whole lifestyle associated with wrestling that goes beyond simply drug use....non stop traveling, little to no rest, intense physical demands....what is it that you want the government to do about this?

it sounds like you want another dog and pony congressional hearing a la baseball....which in the end will do jack shit for the industry and accomplish nothing besides waste time and money.


>edit: trying to argue this is an isolated incident and
>completely ignoring the trend of early deaths

nobody is ignoring the early deaths....but theres a difference between keeling over when youre 40 and brutally murdering your wife and son and then killing yourself. correct me if im wrong, but is this not the first time this has happened? if there is no other case of this, then there is no trend.

and you want to regulate bodybuilding too? LOL. what trend has been established within bodybuilding that any of us need to worry about? is ronnie coleman's drug habits keeping you up at night? if a small subculture of the country wants to be walking chemical experiments, then thats there problem. maybe the government should start to regulate acting cause lindsay lohan is clearly out of control. rock music too. those musicians sure do like drugs....

>and the
>likelihood that drugs contributed to benoit's mind state...

can we get a toxicology report first before we jump off the deep and act like we know what we're talking about?

and when you say "drugs", i dont know if this is an all encompassing term....if u mean steroids, then no, there is no "liklihood" that it caused him to murder his wife and soon. if he was tripping on acid for 3 days straight, that'd be a much better case....

  

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302. "RE: and you guys are defensive and delusional"
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>can you sort of give me an idea of what you mean by
>"regulate"? what is your plan of action? are you talking
>specifically testing for steroids....or the rec drugs,
>painkillers, amphetamines and god knows what else as well?

i want every aspect of the wrestling industry monitored by the Department of Labor to establish whether its workers are exposed to unsafe working conditions. that means enough drug testing so that people have done everything possible to eliminate performance enhancers in the sport, establishing some sort of reasonable work schedule that keeps them from the insane hours they currently work, limiting the types of bumps these guys can take, et cetera.

you want to argue the DOL has better things to do? i'd argue that wrestling is a public display of gross abuses of workers and that cleaning wrestling up will have a marked impact on how people view blue collar labor in this country. i think it is important enough that the feds need to step in and clean up an industry that has been dirty as hell since its beginning.

>would you like to implement IOC style steroid testing in the
>WWE? any idea how expensive that is? would you like to be
>contributing to that cost?

i mean...i have to be careful here, because i don't want to be mean. obviously, the cost of a decent system of monitoring falls on the wwe. the feds need to step in and say you WILL do x, y, and z, and we will be monitoring whether you do it. but the wwe pays for testing, and if their product, uhm, suffers because people aren't allowed to jump off ladders any more, so be it. vince macmahon has gotten incredibly rich because he has placed countless workers in unsafe working conditions, so it's time for him to pay the piper. if wrestling can't survive without treating its workers fairly, it does not deserve to survive.

>and this is just drugs....theres a whole lifestyle associated
>with wrestling that goes beyond simply drug use....non stop
>traveling, little to no rest, intense physical demands....what
>is it that you want the government to do about this?

gee, maybe limit the number of road trips a guy can take and hours he can work in a week? maybe that?

>it sounds like you want another dog and pony congressional
>hearing a la baseball....which in the end will do jack shit
>for the industry and accomplish nothing besides waste time and
>money.

no, i want the government to actually do something about unsatisfatory working conditions. fuck a hearing--give the wwe 10 things they need to do to make life better for their employees or shut them down.

>nobody is ignoring the early deaths....but theres a difference
>between keeling over when youre 40 and brutally murdering your
>wife and son and then killing yourself. correct me if im
>wrong, but is this not the first time this has happened? if
>there is no other case of this, then there is no trend.

it's cool you like wrestling, but think about how silly that sounds.

>and you want to regulate bodybuilding too? LOL. what trend
>has been established within bodybuilding that any of us need
>to worry about? i

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304. "RE: and you guys are defensive and delusional"
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Wed Jun-27-07 10:48 PM by 3xKrazy

          

> that means enough drug
>testing so that people have done everything possible to
>eliminate performance enhancers in the sport

if the WWE is footing the bill, then thats fine by me....

>establishing
>some sort of reasonable work schedule that keeps them from the
>insane hours they currently work, limiting the types of bumps
>these guys can take, et cetera.

fair enough....although i dont see how it would have prevented this or prevent the next sick fuck to go off the deep end....at least in the context of this tragedy, youre just trying to make some sort of public display that will make people sleep better at night that crazy roided up wrestlers wont come after them with a butcher knife....

> i think it
>is important enough that the feds need to step in and clean up
>an industry that has been dirty as hell since its beginning.

I just dont feel like any more than 10 seconds of the DEA's time should be wasted on this garbage....if theres a criminal issue, then shut it down.

testing in general is a joke and if its left up to the WWE to do it via private means than it will be even more of a joke. constant monitoring by the Feds seems like a massive waste to me.

> obviously, the cost of a decent system of monitoring
>falls on the wwe.

a *fairly* dilligent testing system would be more than the WWE could afford....



>
>it's cool you like wrestling,

LOL, you must have me confused with someone else. i would say I hate wrestling, but I dont even acknowledge its existence enough to qualify any sort of emotion towards it. its for hicks and homo's as far as im concerned....no offense to anyone here .

>but think about how silly that
>sounds.

on one hand we have a grown ass man making a decision to live life hard and abuse chemicals and basically die for his occupation, that's his choice and i dont really give a shit....nor do i feel the need for the governement to intervene any moreso than i feel they should step in and regulate any other group of dipshits that decide to abuse their bodies via drugs, alcohol or whatever.

this benoit situatino is a separate, isolated incident. i dont think its fair to put it in the same category as someone having a heart attack.

>>and you want to regulate bodybuilding too? LOL. what trend
>>has been established within bodybuilding that any of us need
>>to worry about? i
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Titus

n=1 arguments dont work.

how many murders occur each year? so when ONE bodybuilder/drug dealer/known rec drug abuser and sleazebag gets his name in the mix.... therefore we now have to regulate his entire industry and attempt to create some sort of ridiculous correlation between bodybuilding and murder/kidnapping?

shit doesnt make sense man....if a fractionally insignificant segment of society wants to spend all day lifting weights and sucking cock to pay for their steroids, why should i care? how does this effect me?

  

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295. "same reason we won't have real gun control in this country."
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>
>edit: trying to argue this is an isolated incident and
>completely ignoring the trend of early deaths and the
>likelihood that drugs contributed to benoit's mind state...i
>mean, how much denial do you have to be in?


sure we can blame the individual people who caused v-tech and columbine to happen, but to do so without looking at overall trends and the ways in which society allows people to let that agression out on other people (i.e. easy access to guns) is just deluding yourself. this is off-topic, but it's the same idea. people don't realize you can mourn, blame whoever you want, AND address the bigger picture.

  

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298. "the drugs are only part of the answer here"
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Chris Nowitsky raised an excellent point in the Times. To excerpt:

But Christopher Nowinski, a former professional wrestler who worked with Mr. Benoit, and who was forced to quit because of head injuries, said he believed that repeated, untreated concussions might have caused his friend to snap.

He was one of the only guys who would take a chair shot to the back of the head, Mr. Nowinski said, which is stupid.

Mr. Nowinski has written a book called Head Games: Footballs Concussion Crisis (Drummond Publishing Group, 2006), about chronic traumatic encephalopathy, a condition that can cause memory loss, depression and bizarre, paranoid behavior.

Mr. Nowinski said that he had been trying to persuade the coroner examining Mr. Benoit to allow a brain exam to look for the telltale neurofibrillary tangles in the brains cortex, but that he had thus far been rebuffed.

Part of me hopes there was something wrong with his brain, Mr. Nowinski said. The Chris Benoit I knew was always more concerned about everybody elses well-being than his own.


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Add on that one of Benoit's signatures was diving head first onto someone from the turnbuckle, and that's a recipe for head trauma probably 50 times what Andre Waters had at the time of his passing.

This, by the way, does not absolve Benoit of any guilt. But it's more than just the drugs, Shell.

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247. "What does Republicanism have to do with accountability?"
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the only thing we know about this dude truthfully is that he was a wrestler, he had a reportedly very rocky marriage, he obviously was deeply troubled, and that he murdered his own family and then killed himself so he didn't have to live with his horrific actions while everyone in his/their wake now has to spend a lot of time confused about how all this happened.

There's plenty of shit you could say about wrestling being a dirty sport, Vince McMahon displaying gross negligence, and everything else. That's another post and you're more than welcome to make it.

This man was a piece of shit. I'm not usually a reactionary, judgemental person but this is a rare case in which I find nothing redeeming about this guy nor any profession or drug you can blame his actions on.

When people commit a crime this horrific then do themselves (like the VTech kid) there ends up being a lot of finger-pointing and Monday Morning Quarterbacking about what should have been done......but the bottom line is most functional humans who are not in that person's shoes could never truly fathom the capabilities of someone this disturbed.

And I disagree with piggybacking off this guy's maliciousness to make a political point on an organization.

There's a litany of issues actually directly related to wrestling that you could use to champion that cause rather than act like this is a wakeup call to anything other than the disgusting things that a sick human being is capable.

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191. "another updated swipe"
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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/more/06/25/wrestler.dead.ap/index.html?cnn=yes

ATLANTA (AP) -- Pro wrestler Chris Benoit strangled his wife and smothered his son before hanging himself in his weight room, a law enforcement official close to the investigation told The Associated Press on Tuesday.

Authorities also said they are investigating whether steroids may have been a factor in the deaths of Benoit, his wife and their 7-year-old son. Steroid abuse has been linked to depression, paranoia, and aggressive behavior or angry outbursts known as "roid rage."

"We don't know yet. That's one of the things we'll be looking at," said Fayette County District Attorney Scott Ballard. He said test results may not be back for weeks.

Autopsies were scheduled Tuesday by the Georgia Bureau of Investigation.

Authorities were investigating the deaths at a secluded Fayette County home as a murder-suicide and were not seeking any suspects. The official who described the manner of death spoke on the condition of anonymity because the information was to be released at a news conference later Tuesday.

Investigators believe Benoit (pronounced ben-WAH) killed his wife, 43-year-old Nancy, and son Daniel during the weekend and then himself Monday. The bodies were found Monday afternoon in three separate rooms of the house, off a gravel road about two miles from the Whitewater Country Club.

Nancy Benoit filed for a divorce in May 2003, saying their three-year union was irrevocably broken and alleging "cruel treatment." But she later dropped the complaint, as well as a request for a restraining order in which she charged that Benoit had threatened her and had broken furniture in their home.

In the divorce filing, she said Benoit made more than $500,000 a year as a professional wrestler and asked for permanent custody of Daniel and child support. In his response, Benoit sought joint custody.

Fayette County Coroner C.J. Mowell did not return calls seeking comment. The answering service for his funeral home said he was out of town.

Asked about the condition of the interior of the house, sheriff's Sgt. Keith Whiteside said investigators found "nothing really out of the ordinary." He said Benoit was found in the home's weight room, his wife in an office and the son in an upstairs bedroom.

Neighbors said the Benoits led a low-key lifestyle.

"We would see Chris walking in his yard from time to time. He wasn't rude, but he wasn't really outwardly warm," said Alaina Jones, who lives across the street.

Jimmy Baswell, who was Benoit's driver for more than five years, placed a white wreath at the Benoits' gate. "They always seemed like they were the happiest people," he said.

World Wrestling Entertainment said on its Web site that it asked authorities to check on Benoit and his family after being alerted by friends who received "several curious text messages sent by Benoit early Sunday morning."

The WWE, based in Stamford, Conn., said authorities asked that it not release further information on the deaths.

Benoit, born in Montreal, was a former world heavyweight champion, Intercontinental champion and held several tag-team titles. His names in the ring included "The Canadian Crippler."

"WWE extends its sincerest thoughts and prayers to the Benoit family's relatives and loved ones in this time of tragedy," the company said in a statement on its Web site.

"He was like a family member to me, and everyone in my family is taking it real hard," said fellow Canadian Bret Hart, a five-time champion with the World Wrestling Federation. The federation has since changed its name to World Wrestling Entertainment.

Benoit had maintained a home in metro Atlanta from the time he wrestled for the defunct World Championship Wrestling. The Fayette County Tax Assessors Office lists the value of the house, situated on more than 8.5 acres, at nearly $900,000.

The WWE canceled its live "Monday Night RAW" card in Corpus Christi, Texas, and USA Network aired a three-hour tribute to Benoit in place of the scheduled wrestling telecast.

Benoit's wife managed several wrestlers and went by the stage name "Woman." They met when her then-husband drew up a script that had them involved in a relationship as part of a story line on World Championship Wrestling, The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported.

Benoit has two other children from a prior relationship.

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195. "Disgusting and Cowardly"
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Fuck Him

  

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199. "I'm gonna blame the bible for this one"
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after all, there were bibles at the scene of the crime.

seems like it makes sense to deflect blame onto the bible and religion.

guy was a sick fuck, end of story.

  

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200. "Update"
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http://www.wrestleview.com/news2006/1182890036.shtml


The Associated Press is now reporting that law enforcement officials close to the current investigation have now confirmed that Chris Benoit strangled his wife Nancy with an electrical chord on Saturday, smothered his son Daniel with a bag on Sunday and then hung himslef in his basement/weight room on Monday.

In what is both shocking and rather gruesome details, Nancy's wrists and feet were bound with tape and blood was found under the head when her body was discovered. As recapped in the press conference held earlier today outside the residence (Part 1 and Part 2), a bible was found placed next to the bodies of both Nancy and Daniel.

The press conference also confirmed that Benoit hung himself with a cord in his basement weight room. While authorities didn't want to go into details about rumors of Benoit sending out curious text messages, it is believed that at least one WWE wrestler (believed to be Chavo Guerrero) received a text message on a delayed basis from Benoit. Officials are still remaining quiet as to what the actual text messages said.

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202. "Yikes all around"
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Benoit was psychotic and Vince is clearly running a business that at least tacitly encourages its employees to live dangerously.

Poor seven year old boy caught up in this shitstorm.

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203. "PWTorch reports contents of Benoit text message to Chavo Guerrero"
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And I'm going to add my cosign to the voices that are saying that to blame Vince McMahon for this in any way is as about as sensible as blaming the Panthers management back when Rae Carruth killed his wife.

> PWTorch can now report the content of the text message sent by Chris Benoit to Chavo Guerrero on Sunday morning. The message, according to our sources, said that the sliding glass doors to his house were open and the dogs had been fed. No one was quite sure what to make of it, but he wasn't reachable afterward for clarification.
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204. "This was some sadistic shit..."
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dude fukkin tied up his wife...strangled her...and then suffocated his 7 year old boy..

Wrestlers have done some terrible shit before..but this is by far the worse..and I think it's going to move Vince to change the way they do business in that there has to be more support, monitoring, and help available for these guys....This can't happen again....he's got to make sure that guys with problems like this are identified, and that there is help for them...

I'm not blaming Vince for this at all....it's always so easy to blame him for bad stuff...but I have honestly seen an adjustment made in the way they do business over the years to try and be a little more reasonable and respectful towards their talent..

but this has got to be the thing that changes the environment for the talent...where a guy who has the potential to do something like this cannot fly under the radar.

  

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209. "Randy Orton, anyone?"
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236. "WWE instituting some form of counseling or making life easier for"
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their stars in general would be a huge step forward.

But Benoit is still a sadistic and disgusting human being.

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208. "wrestlers that have died over the years"
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http://prowrestling.about.com/od/whatsrealwhatsfake/a/wrestlersdeaths.htm

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211. "McMahon to apologize for the tribute show, according to the 'Observer"
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212. "Stupid"
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He doesnt owe an apology to anyone

I bet chavo and regal and everyone else who talked about Benoit would not change thier comments, his friends will remember him as a good person who snapped and did an unforgivable thing.

Most people will remember him as a murderer, but no apology for letting the people close to him pay tribute to him when nothing was known is needed.

Fuck that




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216. "no it isn't."
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WWE - whether they should have to or not - is going into CYA mode.

No matter how many close friends he had or how many german suplexes he could do consecutively, the guy was a murderer. Period. And now with ESPN reporting that Daniel had needle marks in his arm possibly from Benoit and Nancy shooting him up with HGH, it's open season on WWE.

And it's bound to come out about how Vince made the Wellness Policy toothless. Everyone can tell that Benoit was on them - you only have to look at him to do that. Vince and World Wrestling Entertainment are about to be criticized like never before.
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220. "but a tribute when they knew nothing?"
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Thier option was run a 3 hour show they planned pretending the CEO was dead

or cancel the show and just turn it to a tribute

There was no other option, they had too little time to create a whole new 3 hour show, all they knew at the time was a man they all loved and his family was dead.

They made the right choice at the right time, today is a whole new day



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223. "there might have been no other option..."
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but that doesn't mean they shouldn't apologize and clarify.

They did a tribute show to a murderer. Something has to be said about that.
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275. " Its not"
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an evil thing for the Benoit's to have had their son on HGH if under the care of a doctor. I personally knew kids 20 years ago who were on some form of it. That's what HGH was originally intended for, to help undersized children grow.

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224. "RE: Stupid"
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I watched some of those comments on wwe.com last night, and no one really praised Benoit on what a great person he was, unlike the Owen Hart tribute. The consensus was that Benoit was a tireless worker and was "tough to get to know" or something like that I believe Cena said.

Vince has to do it for damage control because the blood-sucking opportunists like Fox News (O'Reilly) are gonna eat it up. A simple business decision saying "sorry, but we didn't know the circumstances"

  

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226. "That was well done"
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No apologizing for runnign the show, only a request to move on



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214. "The son was on growth hormone (Swipe)"
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The story keeps getting more and more bizarre. In an interview with ESPN.com, District Attorney Scott Ballard reveals needle marks were found on the arms of Daniel Benoit and he had been injected with growth hormones because "the family considered him undersized".

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215. "How many places is this story gonna go"
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Its like a fucking movie



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228. "disgusting"
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230. "its possible he really needed it"
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I had a friend growing up that used it because he was undersized for his age. its a legit medical reason for using it.

lets not jump to conclusions.

  

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232. "That is why he was on it"
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He had been taking it for years and i read had a legal prescription for it, its just an easy thing for the media to pile on



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239. "that's a first."
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I've never heard of a child having to take hgh because they were "undersized".

Undersized how? Was the kid too short? Or was the kid underweight?
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241. "I knew a kid in high school who was prescribed something"
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because he was undersized...he was like 4'10"....

  

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243. "if youre severely short for your age in comparison to your peers"
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dwarfism is a treament indication for GH.

there are legit medical reasons why these drugs are manufactured.

ever notice how midgets are usually quite muscular? theres your reason....

  

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273. "i'd like to know how tall this kid was before i buy that"
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"shortest kid in the class" ain't going to cut it either

  

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282. "truthfully its really none of your fuckin business"
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as its really not your place to judge. apparently this kid had some medical problems. leave him alone.

  

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248. "the kid had some chromosome defect...."
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that's prob what the hgh was for. still some twisted shit nonetheless.

  

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257. "This is really ridiculous..."
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I mean, Benoit was 5'10' and his wife was shorter than him, so how fucking big did they expect this kid to be???

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266. "and yet the drug culture of the wwe has nothing to do with this"
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*people's eyebrow*

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283. "man, what do you not get about this?"
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do you not realize that there are legitimate reasons why these drugs are manufactured and prescribed?

the assumptions some people making are beyond unfair and staight up stupid.

the kid apparently had some serious medical issues. perhaps wait until some legit info comes out that shows benoit was 'doping' his son before you judge.

  

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300. "less to do than the "high spot" culture"
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that makes guys take steel chairs to the head on a regular basis, almost ensuring that their brains get ridiculously damaged.

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217. "what the fuck is all of this?"
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What is the confusion about?

He killed a fucking kid!!...His own son , a helpless 7 year old who couldnt fight back...


He is scum and he should be scorned and taking out of every wrestling clip that exists.

Niggers in here having mixed emotions about how they should feel?


FOH!!

It is his fault and no one elses. You're a man..How the fuck are you going to blame another man for your wrong doings?

  

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218. "that is pretty much what is happenin"
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But god forbid people talk about it

People are more confused and dumbfounded over the whole situation, nobody is defending the man.


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219. "I feel you"
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but there are a couple of cats stating that they just cant wipe the memories of him out of their head, and how dope he was...

And quit talking about his past glory or matches...he does not need to be honored in any way or form.

  

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249. "the mixed reactions are understandable..."
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like mentioned, no one is defending him.
but you go from hearing someone you admired died...you're sad. then you head all this shit...and it pisses you off.
thus, mixed reaction.

if you read this responses it's more of disappointment that this guy that was looked up to turns out to be a distrubed individual. it's natural.

you make it sound like people are torn between still admiring him or not. i don't think anyone is saying that.

  

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255. "They aren't."
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>you make it sound like people are torn between still admiring
>him or not. i don't think anyone is saying that.
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260. "Man, I feel like you NOW..."
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At first, when I actually flipped to it and saw the Benoit tribute I was shocked...then, after watching further and realizing the whole family died I thought it must have been an accident of some sort. Only on Tuesday when I came to work and read more about it, did I find out Benoit's guilt in all of this tragedy.

So, like most wrestling fans I've always admired him for his wrestling abilities and, much like the majority of the comments from the other wrestlers & fans, respected him for such because that's all I KNEW---I knew nothing of his life outside of the ring. But now, all respect for