looks like someone needs an elite scorer to get some of that saggin D off him...a nigga who could drop 40+ a game in a series like it was nuffin

looks like someone needs a two guard who can actually make 3s

looks like someone needs a guy who knows how to get to the line

looks like someone needs a lockdown defender on the perimeter

that's too bad.

oh well

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bitch.

it's sports, faggot. people lose.

i still got peyton manning to pick on.

besides that, i only started hatin the mavs on this board because of your faggot ass.

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somewhere in TV Land Jerry Buss and Kobe are smiling ear to ear... Best 20 million per year that he has ever saved

LMAO

that's on any planet

BE MAD!

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kobe post shaq = missing the playoffs and a first round flop
shaq got to the 7th game of the eastern finals last yr and this yr BEAT a team he couldn't beat WITH kobe to get to the finals

agreed.

there are more players in the league you can replace kobe with then there are that you can replace shaq with.

simple supply and demand.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

and the "players" #8 got had nothing to do with it? But that too was Kobe's fought....WTF was I thinking.

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shaq replaced kobe wit d wade.

kobe replaced shaq wit er...chris mihm?

kobe > dwade
shaq>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>@#$%^&*&>>>>>>>>>>>> mihm

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

>shaq replaced kobe wit d wade.

and Zo, White Choc, Tione, GP, etc, etc, and lets not forget about etc


>kobe replaced shaq wit er...chris mihm?
>
>kobe > dwade
>shaq>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>@#$%^&*&>>>>>>>>>>>> mihm

Kobe team<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Shaq team. Lets start here 1st and conclude here as well.

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while all that may be true i still say kobe is easier replaced then shaq is.

there are 10 -15 great perimeter players in the league.
There are maybe 5 great big men in the league.

simple supply and demand.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

>while all that may be true i still say kobe is easier
>replaced then shaq is.

as of right now, that statement hasnt been proven 100% to be true. Shaq went to a good team, Kobe was left with a project. This couldve been reversed

>
>there are 10 -15 great perimeter players in the league.

lets narrow that down to 4 or 5

>There are maybe 5 great big men in the league.

lets narrow this down to 2 or 3

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maybe so about narrowing down the "great player" list... but i'd say guys like james, arenas, iverson, pierce, allen, carter, wade, nash, Mcgrady, jrich, hamilton, billups are a better crop to choose from then...
nowitzki, brand, duncan, bosh, Garnett, jamison, gasol, webber,j oneal,zach randolph, boozer, dhoward, ilgauskas

just my opinion, as far as 5+ years down the line i'd say trade shaq keep bryant

as far as who's better to build a team around to win now, i'd say trade bryant keep shaq.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

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not saying its over.. we still got 5 more games to go but you knew the comments were coming today after a blowout loss and a 5 point effort....

Ima a shaq fan... i just felt they made the right business decision..

If you cant win with karl malone, kobe, gp, fisher, and shaq than it might be time to kiss your three rings and move on .....

the west was only getting better.., and the league was spared an Amare Stoudamire and Kurt Thomas front court with that West Conference finals Suns team

get real
like someone said in the other thread....what ELSE could the heat had used the 20 mil on that would have gotten them a better result?

& it's equally true that LA, coming off a 4-1 @ss kickin' from the Pistons in the NBA finals, had to strongly considering moving in a new direction.

Shaq was on that Lakers team that got murderer in the Finals too. SA in 03 & Detroit in 04 handled LA rather easily. Why was it so unthinkable for them to trade Shaq considering the last 2 seasons he played there the team team came up short?


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not like the lakers had never came up short only to rebound and win titles

....

LA went on their run from 00-02..

The Spurs finally broke thru in 03.

LA got LUCKY in 04 vs SA (even the most objective Lakers fan will tell you that) only to be destroyed by the Pistons in the Finals.

You tell me what about losing 2 str8 years, both rather handily, after winning 3 str8 titles suggests that the run isn't over?

C'mon man, Shaq or no Shaq no one stays on top forever.
Ask Detroit & SA. - True story..






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learn your lakers history
shaq + 81 point kobe with some cheap MLE vets = title this yr

Brah,.. I grew up watching the Showtime Lakers. Magic was in his prime during the entire decade.

The guy who the this LA team was centered around (Shaq) was declining & unwilling to defer to Kobe. Had Shaq been winning to do for Kobe what he's done for Wade, you might have a point. Maybe Shaq needs a history lesson. He could asked Kareem about deferring to a younger superstar guard & maybe things woulda worked out.



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>
>The guy who the this LA team was centered around (Shaq) was
>declining & unwilling to defer to Kobe. Had Shaq been winning
>to do for Kobe what he's done for Wade, you might have a
>point. Maybe Shaq needs a history lesson. He could asked
>Kareem about deferring to a younger superstar guard & maybe
>things woulda worked out.
>


i been saying this for a grip to some of my boys but they dont' wanna hear it. in denial

>The guy who the this LA team was centered around (Shaq) was
>declining & unwilling to defer to Kobe. Had Shaq been winning
>to do for Kobe what he's done for Wade, you might have a
>point. Maybe Shaq needs a history lesson. He could asked
>Kareem about deferring to a younger superstar guard & maybe
>things woulda worked out.

True, I agree with that statement

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if they had spent that cash.. it had to get them another chip or it wasnt worth it

so saving 20mil and missing the playoffs one yr and having a 3-1 flop the next is worth u as a fan having jerry buss or who ever save 20 mil?

.

you've already won 3 chips


Why do people act like LA didn't get handled in 03 by SA & in 04 by Det? What, should the Lakers front office just ignore that they didn't win chips those 2 season & they might not be as good as they once were?

That's what I don't understand.




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true that, I am still laughing...The Heat got through a weak Eastern Conference, but Dallas aint having it...shaq is done, and he aint shit!! Again, I will stress, he makes 30 million a year and what do the heat get, someone with NO work ethic, and someone who cannot shoot FREE throws, thats straight up sad--30 Million!!!

Integrity is the Cornerstone of Artistry...

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because the fact of the matter is this: IF YOU LOOK AT KOBE AND SHAQ AND THEIR RESPECTIVE TEAMS, THE HEAT ARE FAR DEEPER AND MORE TALENTED THAN THE LAKERS. Miami is a playoff team without Shaq, the Lakers don't win 25 games without Kobe.

"Is it not one father that all of us have? Is it not one God that has created us? Why is it that we deal treacherously with one another?" --Malachi 2:10

is there
did you forget the heat traded HALF their playoff core for shaq?
the heat traded PLAYOFF players TO the lakers for shaq....did u forget that?
it basically was shaq and a 2nd yr player
they got to the east finals ON THAT
then everybody said "o shit let me go sign wit miami and see if i can get this title"
lmao
yall niggas and this revisionist history


also u can blame that shitty team ON kobe!!!
the lakers basically bet the farm that kobe could carry a shitty team and apparently he can't......lakers lost
the lakers would have been better off trading kobe for odom straight up and getting finley or somebody to sign for the MLE

>is there
>did you forget the heat traded HALF their playoff core for
>shaq?
Hey...they got suckered into the myth of Shaq's "greatness".

>the heat traded PLAYOFF players TO the lakers for shaq....did
>u forget that?
And?

>also u can blame that shitty team ON kobe!!!
>the lakers basically bet the farm that kobe could carry a
>shitty team and apparently he can't
And apparently Shaq can't "carry" a GOOD team without Kobe. Just like I said in the "Shaq is sorry" post that got deleted, Shaq is used to Kobe actually winning games / series for him, and then him being able to pad his stats with superfluous thunderous dunks that make weak-minded people give him the credit for the win. Wade, as good as he is, isn't able to do what Kobe has done in the past...especially with NO help from Shaq

My thing is this: If Shaq is "the most dominant force in basketball", sincd he is being denied the ball and therefore can't score, why wasn't he crashing the offensive glass? You are 7'2" and weigh 330. So if you can't catch turn around and dunk all night, you refuse to do anything else? How many shots did Shaq block? How many shots did he even alter? And how is it that you let the much maligned Dampier and totally inexperienced Diop deny you all night anyway if you are so "dominant"? Shaq is being exposed as the selfish, lazy buster that he is. He needs to get on his knees and give thanks every day that he got the chance to play with a kid who held himself in check so Shaq could get all the glory and credit.

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lmao
wow only on okp
kobe is the reason why shaq won 3 finals mvps i guess ,right?
lmao

how u bitching bout shaq being held to 5 pts. when kobe had one of the WORST finals performances EVER just 2 yrs ago
and not even one game ...the whole damn series. I'd argue if kobe wasn't so horrible that series the lakers might have 4 titles!
kobe couldn't even close out a 3-1 lead against a team wit NO defense
get real broham

>>the lakers basically bet the farm that kobe could carry a
>>shitty team and apparently he can't.
>And apparently Shaq can't "carry" a GOOD team without Kobe.

^^^^

They've both failed to win a ring without the other. thing is one has been on really good teams basically his entire career.
...while the other...(in the TWO years he's played without the other)......his teams not even close.


>Just like I said in the "Shaq is sorry" post that got deleted,
>Shaq is used to Kobe actually winning games / series for him,
>and then him being able to pad his stats with superfluous
>thunderous dunks that make weak-minded people give him the
>credit for the win. Wade, as good as he is, isn't able to do
>what Kobe has done in the past...especially with NO help from
>Shaq
>

pretty much.


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ny nigga duncan wouldn't do that gay shit shaq just did last night.

he's letting damp and diop control him.

duncan wouldn't take no five shots.

that's why I be rolling with that san antonio dude. he doesn't pull bitchmoves like this.


for some reason Kobe and Shaq are both doing that gay shit.
you gotta get at least 12-15 shots if you're shaq.

bitch move.

W.W.D.D.

what would duncan do?

LMAO

but I'm not trying to start nothing.

shaq was a bitch last night.

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you know that

shaq pull his bitchmove, but he still playing. and still could win.

Kobe pulled his bitchmove and then went home to Vanessa.

whenever its win or go home, it's different and more important.

shaq will live to fight another day. kobe was going home. so that's why his looks more like quiting on not just a game (like shaq)but on an entire season.

I know you trying to be funny.

but you really know the deal.


and Timmy Duncan would never go out like these two chumps did.
that's why he's the best.

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you dropping some gems today.

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yeah a needed Headache 2 Guard who just choked a 3-1 lead. yeah Kobe is truly needed.you never count Shaq out. D-Wade is starting to get cooking.this series ain't over. the biggest Problem facing Shaq though is not having that consistant play of cats from the past like Rick fox, Robert Horry,D-Fsher. Role Players who step up&Know there role. Gary, Posey are just taking up space thus far.

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my favs
R.Kelly Michael Jackson Bee Gees Steely dan ,Lionel Richie, Stevie Wonder,Smokey Robinson Gladys Knight,Jackie wilson, Sam Cooke,
crusaders, Rick James, Shaq,EWF, Isley Brothers,Bobby Womack Tiger Woods Ba

...won these last 2 years: Zero.

Kobe was the closer for the Lakers. I like Wade, but you are seeing his shortcomings in this final and why he isn't on Kobe's level.

<--- we've got bush!

like 20% and lost 2 yrs ago
wade is more crunch time imo then kobe
kobe better tho
but if i need somebody to take smart shots and win me a series against a TOUGH defensive team i pick wade over kobe

& much hungrier.

04 Pistons 95.3 PPGA
06 Pistons 103.1 PPGA

Don't you remember that streak of games in the 04 season where the Pistons were holding opponents to ridiculously low final scores??


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>wade is more crunch time imo then kobe


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>wade is more crunch time imo then kobe

There is no way that Dwade is better than Kobe.
That is,imo, unless getting injured in the clutch is 'more crunch time'. Kobe cleary has more experience, as well as three reasons why im giving him the ball over Wade. Wade hits the big shots w/ 4 minutes left, not seconds.

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your starting pg goes 0-5 from the field, has 2 assts and 3 to's. If Shaq woulda ckoked like Kobe last night, the series would be tied.

did the Lakers win that series yes or no? if you answered no then you don't have a leg to stand on in this discussion. D-Wade ain't done with. this series ain't over&last night wasn't Shaq's fault. He is in the finals.lets remember that. where is Kobe&the Lakers these days??

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my favs
R.Kelly Michael Jackson Bee Gees Steely dan ,Lionel Richie, Stevie Wonder,Smokey Robinson Gladys Knight,Jackie wilson, Sam Cooke,
crusaders, Rick James, Shaq,EWF, Isley Brothers,Bobby Womack Tiger Woods Ba

but losing and choking are two different things.

crying to Charles Barkley. playing team ball in the post season after acting like a Diva for 82 games. Losing:after having a lead.

Choking:blowing a Winable game at home&then pouting in game 7&only taken a couple of shots in the 2nd half.

Shaq is in the Finals. Read it&Weep.

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my favs
R.Kelly Michael Jackson Bee Gees Steely dan ,Lionel Richie, Stevie Wonder,Smokey Robinson Gladys Knight,Jackie wilson, Sam Cooke,
crusaders, Rick James, Shaq,EWF, Isley Brothers,Bobby Womack Tiger Woods Ba

If Shaq woulda choked like Kobe last night, the series
>would be tied.



2006 Philadelphia Eagles = Sleeper team of the Nfc

but let's also acknowledge that shaq could use a little more robert horry and a lot less toine.

----
bshelly

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<--- we've got bush!

but, yes, kobe>>wade.

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"You (Fisher) could get fired, Les Snead could get fired, Kevin Demoff could get fired, but I will always be Eric Dickerson.” (c) The God

even tho Kobe's a notorious Mav killa. And, to be fair, Wade has played pretty well so we really shouldn't talking about Kobe vs. Wade.


This series doesn't look much different that LA vs DET in 04. Shaq + Kobe couldn't do anything with a much better team.

Dallas is just much better than Miami. They're too talented, deep & young for the Heat.

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don't push it though.

I'm trying to agree with you

shoot.

I consider myself a Wade fan. dude is ill. But you really think the Mavs could afford to double and triple shaq with Kobe out there? I mean seriously. I'm not even saying the Heat would win the series. but cot damn. The mavs played like shit in game 1 and won by ten.

what good is a great shooting percentage if you're afraid to take shots past 20 feet in the Finals?

we'll see what happens

.

I think they change the tone of the series at home

.

you replace kobe with wade, they win the title this year. there's not a doubt in my mind. dallas can't guard kobe for shit.


*edit* FOR SHIT.


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Kobe is definitely a Mav killa for some reason but Wade has played pretty well in both games.. ( 28, 23 pts ).


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that when i woke up in the mornin (or afternoon actually, i be goin to sleep late) everybody was gon' up all these posts and make new kobe/shaq posts. LOL man i was dyin when i first seen okaysports front page. my laker brethren really be holdin it down on here.


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& to be honest, I don't wanna see Shaq go down in flames but if you consider he pulled a bit of a bytch move leaving LA cause he didn't want to defer to Kobe, he kinda deserves it.

Karma's a bitch filing for child support.



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