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"The A's bandwagon boards here"


  

          

I hope I don't jinx them by doing this but we need to have a post for the playoff stretch.

The boys broke out the sticks last night and hammered CC for 8 runs in 2 and 1/3. Zito pitching with a 10 run lead is just sick. Thank god Barry is finally getting the run support he was lacking earlier in the year. We now sit on top in the wild card and are within striking distance of the Angels. Not sure how these last two months are going to play out, but as a fan you have to love watching your team play meaningful games in August and September. With young cats like Harden, Swisher & Johnson and vets like Chavez, Kendall and Kotsay all locked up in long term deals, I still say this teams best years are ahead of them.

  

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Dawg, you beat me to it
Jul 26th 2005
1
jay payton sucks
Jul 26th 2005
2
in boston....
Jul 26th 2005
3
Payton hated the City of Boston
Jul 26th 2005
5
      stfu
Jul 26th 2005
9
      Don't get mad just 'cause he's excelling over here
Jul 26th 2005
12
      don't be stupid
Jul 26th 2005
13
      Hard to compare the two
Jul 26th 2005
14
      "Difficult" players tend to get along pretty well here
Jul 26th 2005
17
           Yes! Many Sox fans have become what I've always hated
Jul 26th 2005
18
           you don't count anymore
Jul 26th 2005
19
                Right.....
Jul 26th 2005
24
           son
Jul 26th 2005
21
                lol
Jul 26th 2005
25
                last year's deadline
Jul 26th 2005
30
                     contreras's agent clowned theo
Jul 26th 2005
40
                     it was less about BK Kim anyways
Aug 03rd 2005
102
                The Roberts thing was for a lot shorter time
Jul 26th 2005
27
                Yes
Jul 26th 2005
28
                     He's trying
Jul 26th 2005
33
                Theo did it with money
Jul 26th 2005
36
                     theo can't be blamed for the farm system
Jul 26th 2005
46
                     RE: Theo did it with money
Aug 07th 2005
140
      RE: Don't get mad just 'cause he's excelling over here
Jul 26th 2005
26
           he was on EEI today
Jul 26th 2005
34
           Well, can he play 2B? Or be the closer?
Jul 26th 2005
38
                graffy = gold
Jul 26th 2005
41
                Foulke will come back nice
Aug 03rd 2005
100
      he didn't have a starting spot
Jul 26th 2005
47
      RE: Payton hated the City of Boston
Jul 26th 2005
23
           cosign
Jul 26th 2005
35
                Look Chowd
Jul 26th 2005
43
                     RE: Look Chowd
Jul 27th 2005
51
                     Oakland & Boston
Jul 27th 2005
55
                          RE: Oakland & Boston
Aug 07th 2005
136
                     RE: Look Chowd
Aug 03rd 2005
101
repping the Kelly Green since circa 1972
Jul 26th 2005
4
Can Huston Street handle the late-season pressure?
Jul 26th 2005
6
RE: Can Huston Street handle the late-season pressure?
Jul 26th 2005
7
RE: The A's bandwagon boards here
Jul 26th 2005
8
Only thing in their way now is the evil Chicago Sports Media
Aug 02nd 2005
94
won't make the playoffs
Jul 26th 2005
10
They might
Jul 26th 2005
15
      if sox add schmidt or burnett
Jul 26th 2005
22
           RE: if sox add schmidt or burnett
Jul 26th 2005
29
           I don't think many would argue
Jul 26th 2005
32
           I'm not sure either of those guys make the staff better as a whole
Jul 26th 2005
31
                I think Theo will get there
Jul 26th 2005
39
                I originally thought he'd stand pat as we argued before
Jul 26th 2005
44
                Add not having Nomar sign a 4 yr 48 million dollar deal and
Jul 26th 2005
45
Hmph.
Jul 26th 2005
11
this is a nice run...
Jul 26th 2005
16
I'm not expecting them to take the West, but...
Jul 26th 2005
20
*breaks one of the wheels on the wagon*
Jul 26th 2005
37
Okay, who let the Anaheim Angels fan in?
Jul 26th 2005
42
Billy Beane=Pope of Chillitown
Jul 26th 2005
48
Of course the day I post this
Jul 27th 2005
49
Speaking as some who went to the game last night
Jul 27th 2005
50
      RE: Speaking as some who went to the game last night
Jul 27th 2005
53
           Ha, I'm of the same mindframe as your daughter
Jul 27th 2005
58
                Fires up MLBTV
Jul 27th 2005
59
                     A's take another series
Jul 27th 2005
60
                          Oh shit! They pulled it out! Daaaaammnnn!!!
Jul 27th 2005
61
                               One of the nice things about having your own office lol
Jul 27th 2005
62
                                    The key is to just keep winning series man
Jul 27th 2005
63
For the record
Jul 27th 2005
52
sucker.
Jul 27th 2005
54
      It took 20+ titles for Yankee fans to become this obnoxious
Jul 27th 2005
56
           i've always been obnoxious, pay attention.
Jul 27th 2005
57
you guys staying on all the way till the end disions playoffs?
Jul 27th 2005
64
As I said up top...
Jul 27th 2005
65
they never make it past the division playoffs
Jul 27th 2005
66
      Right, and the last time the Dodgers made it past the first round was?....
Jul 27th 2005
68
I love these guys who
Jul 27th 2005
67
      nope i aint saying disown them
Jul 28th 2005
70
           shit, that's a nice problem to have
Jul 28th 2005
71
i love looking at this:
Jul 27th 2005
69
These 4 are just embarrassing
Jul 28th 2005
72
      Dotel and Durazo
Jul 28th 2005
73
           don't forget hatteberg's contract, isn't he done after this year? n/m
Jul 28th 2005
74
                Yep. This is his last year on the contract
Jul 28th 2005
75
                     RE: Yep. This is his last year on the contract
Jul 28th 2005
76
                          while we're being sentimental
Jul 28th 2005
77
                               Nah, can't help you. I was there for that game though
Jul 28th 2005
79
Peter Gammons talking about Beane trying to get Dunn
Jul 28th 2005
78
dunn's away splits are garbation
Jul 28th 2005
80
Wow
Jul 28th 2005
81
I don't want Dunn
Jul 28th 2005
82
      Griffey is signed though 2008
Jul 28th 2005
83
come on Toronto!
Jul 28th 2005
84
The Angels lead is down to 3.5
Jul 29th 2005
85
      It always pains me to root for the Yankees...
Jul 29th 2005
86
A's win yet another series
Jul 31st 2005
87
Sweep
Aug 01st 2005
89
      I shoulda gone to the game yesterday
Aug 01st 2005
90
Creepin' on ah come
Jul 31st 2005
88
4 game set @ Minn
Aug 01st 2005
91
Beating Santana was huge
Aug 02nd 2005
92
Blanton only threw one bad pitch all night
Aug 02nd 2005
93
Twins win game 3
Aug 04th 2005
105
      Missed the game, but heard about it
Aug 04th 2005
106
           I still don't understand why he lifted Harden
Aug 04th 2005
107
                RE: I still don't understand why he lifted Harden
Aug 04th 2005
108
                     What's 5 or 6 more?
Aug 04th 2005
109
                          RE: What's 5 or 6 more?
Aug 04th 2005
110
                               Fuck, now it's 2 all
Aug 04th 2005
111
                                    That's right. We bad, we bad.
Aug 04th 2005
112
                                         I'm not looking for a sweep of KC
Aug 04th 2005
113
                                              We could do it
Aug 04th 2005
115
                                                   Not saying they can't sweep
Aug 04th 2005
116
33-7
Aug 03rd 2005
95
As they keep on saying on the radio and on TV
Aug 03rd 2005
98
      Right
Aug 03rd 2005
99
Question: Do the young pitchers fade?
Aug 03rd 2005
96
RE: Question: Do the young pitchers fade?
Aug 03rd 2005
97
      I agree. Haren and Blanton are the two most significant concers here
Aug 04th 2005
114
i hope they lose
Aug 03rd 2005
103
That's money gone bruh
Aug 03rd 2005
104
      RE: That's money gone bruh
Aug 04th 2005
117
           Haren is Mulder basically
Aug 06th 2005
134
                RE: Haren is Mulder basically
Aug 07th 2005
137
                     Compare the #s of last year
Aug 07th 2005
138
                          RE: Compare the #s of last year
Aug 07th 2005
139
                               Unfortunately, as you probably know,
Aug 08th 2005
141
                                    RE: Unfortunately, as you probably know,
Aug 08th 2005
147
i love how two stubborn ass A's fans are keeping this thread alive
Aug 05th 2005
118
We are finally getting shine
Aug 05th 2005
119
      By the morning show, we were back to the middle
Aug 05th 2005
120
           haha yeah i was talking about you two ^^^^
Aug 05th 2005
121
           Yeah, it wasn't a secret you were talking about is
Aug 05th 2005
122
           RE: By the morning show, we were back to the middle
Aug 05th 2005
123
Who thinks we're gearin up for a sweep?
Aug 05th 2005
124
whatscoolerthancool
Aug 05th 2005
125
Thanks for showing your support, sir
Aug 05th 2005
126
      RE: Thanks for showing your support, sir
Aug 05th 2005
129
Good fan site
Aug 05th 2005
127
RE: Good fan site
Aug 05th 2005
128
this one's good too
Aug 05th 2005
131
That's one game down
Aug 05th 2005
130
RE: That's one game down
Aug 05th 2005
132
Now that was a good ol' fashioned red-blooded American ass-whupping
Aug 06th 2005
133
Tied for first
Aug 07th 2005
135
*turns in late pass*
Aug 08th 2005
142
If ya came to the jam, then I'm glad ya came (c) Q-Tip
Aug 08th 2005
143
      RE: If ya came to the jam, then I'm glad ya came (c) Q-Tip
Aug 08th 2005
144
      RE: If ya came to the jam, then I'm glad ya came (c) Q-Tip
Aug 08th 2005
145
      Good looks and thanks for showing up
Aug 08th 2005
146
      RE: If ya came to the jam, then I'm glad ya came (c) Q-Tip
Aug 08th 2005
148
           RE: If ya came to the jam, then I'm glad ya came (c) Q-Tip
Aug 09th 2005
149
                RE: If ya came to the jam, then I'm glad ya came (c) Q-Tip
Aug 11th 2005
183
The bandwagon stopped for gas last night vs the Angels lol
Aug 10th 2005
150
We can't win 'em all
Aug 10th 2005
151
These type of games happen
Aug 10th 2005
152
RE: We can't win 'em all
Aug 10th 2005
153
RE: The bandwagon stopped for gas last night vs the Angels lol
Aug 10th 2005
154
What sucks was...
Aug 10th 2005
155
      that's true
Aug 10th 2005
156
RE: The bandwagon stopped for gas last night vs the Angels lol
Aug 11th 2005
157
      I can see that
Aug 11th 2005
158
           YEAH BOYEE-BOYEE!!!
Aug 11th 2005
159
                Mellhuse is coming through, but I'd feel a little better with
Aug 11th 2005
160
                     It was nice to see a big crowd last night
Aug 11th 2005
161
                          Had a ticket, but I had to give it up
Aug 11th 2005
162
                               I'm going Sunday
Aug 11th 2005
163
                               I went on Tuesday night...
Aug 11th 2005
164
Bobby Kielty
Aug 11th 2005
165
He'll be arb-2 I believe
Aug 11th 2005
167
      dude just grounded into a force out... AGAIN
Aug 11th 2005
168
           C'mon man, dude dressed up as Ronald McDonald. RONALD MCDONALD.
Aug 11th 2005
184
Lead off hitter on in 4 of the first 5 innings
Aug 11th 2005
166
Chavey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Aug 11th 2005
169
      RE: Chavey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Aug 11th 2005
170
           What rocks is he did it off of Donnelley
Aug 11th 2005
171
                A walk off home run...
Aug 11th 2005
172
                     right now a SAC would be nice
Aug 11th 2005
173
                          That hurts
Aug 11th 2005
174
                               1st Place is all ours!!!
Aug 11th 2005
176
What happened?
Aug 11th 2005
175
RE: What happened?
Aug 11th 2005
177
      No Shit!
Aug 11th 2005
178
           A win is a win is a win is a win
Aug 11th 2005
179
                How many series have we won in row?
Aug 11th 2005
180
                     The last we lost was against Toronto in Toronto
Aug 11th 2005
181
                          24-13 vs the West
Aug 11th 2005
182
August 12-14 vs the Twins
Aug 12th 2005
185
Two out of three sounds about right
Aug 12th 2005
186
      Co-Sign
Aug 12th 2005
187
           Nah man, it'll be a sweep
Aug 12th 2005
188
                RE: Nah man, it'll be a sweep
Aug 12th 2005
189
                     Co-sign
Aug 12th 2005
190
                          WOW
Aug 12th 2005
191
from athleticsnation.com
Aug 12th 2005
192
Can I get a pass?
Aug 12th 2005
193
Pass punched, at least for my part
Aug 12th 2005
194
hood's ok is enough
Aug 12th 2005
195
Welcome aboard!
Aug 12th 2005
196
up ^^^
Aug 14th 2005
197
Had to happen sometime...
Aug 14th 2005
198
      Our bats are dead right now
Aug 15th 2005
199
Man, I just started having May flashbacks
Aug 16th 2005
200
Watson has a stick
Aug 16th 2005
204
I know what you mean.
Aug 16th 2005
206
*watches people get off one at a time*
Aug 16th 2005
201
It ain't over motherfucka
Aug 16th 2005
202
Dude you just lost any credibility you may have had
Aug 16th 2005
203
I will always fly the green & gold
Aug 16th 2005
205
Couldn't have said it better myself
Aug 16th 2005
208
there was no need for me to be in this post
Aug 16th 2005
209
oh hell nah!
Aug 16th 2005
207
either the offense has come back to earth
Aug 16th 2005
210
I think it's time to swap Payton and Crosby in the batting order
Aug 17th 2005
211
While I agree Payton batting third isn't a bad idea...
Aug 17th 2005
212
The Umps killed us...
Aug 17th 2005
213
      First off I want to say, we're going to be alright
Aug 17th 2005
214
           One thing about moving Kendall...
Aug 17th 2005
215
                Let's hope the Royals win today
Aug 17th 2005
216
                RE: Let's hope the Royals win today
Aug 17th 2005
217
                I concur
Aug 17th 2005
219
                Ellis has been on a tear...
Aug 17th 2005
218
2-run home run?!?! co-sign! n/m
Aug 17th 2005
224
This is getting ugly
Aug 17th 2005
220
Who the fuck is Dubose?
Aug 17th 2005
221
      RE: Who the fuck is Dubose?
Aug 17th 2005
222
           Damn!
Aug 17th 2005
223
                Here we go again
Aug 17th 2005
225
                     Alright
Aug 17th 2005
226
                          Why is Kielty hitting in front of Johnson?
Aug 17th 2005
227
                               because the starter was a lefty, and kielty's splits on
Aug 17th 2005
228
                                    Kielty hasn't been hitting righties or lefties lately
Aug 17th 2005
230
Weekend Series vs KC
Aug 17th 2005
229
Let's add to their misery and end ours
Aug 17th 2005
231
I hope we do.
Aug 17th 2005
232
RE: Weekend Series vs KC
Aug 19th 2005
233
Thank God for the Royals
Aug 20th 2005
234
KC gave us our 20th straight win
Aug 21st 2005
235
Well, this sucks. But I'm nowhere near giving up
Aug 22nd 2005
236
That was terrible
Aug 22nd 2005
237
      Thanks for holding down the front
Aug 22nd 2005
238
      ha
Aug 22nd 2005
239
           It's ok, we know you can't help yourself
Aug 22nd 2005
240
                ha
Aug 22nd 2005
241
                     And I bet you drop in and out of basketball posts too
Aug 22nd 2005
242
                          LOL! That's funniest shit I've heard in a week!
Aug 22nd 2005
243
                          why cant i?
Aug 22nd 2005
244
                               It'd be corny if we did the same thing to you
Aug 22nd 2005
245
Top 10 reasons why A's fans are happy they're not Angel fans
Aug 22nd 2005
246
RE: Top 10 reasons why A's fans are happy they're not Angel fans
Aug 23rd 2005
248
yeah, that wasnt funny
Aug 23rd 2005
249
      Oh get over yourself
Aug 23rd 2005
250
           And for the record
Aug 23rd 2005
252
           I'm offended
Aug 23rd 2005
254
                Even if you REALLY are offended
Aug 23rd 2005
255
im not even an angels fan,but that was classless
Aug 24th 2005
265
A's at Tigers
Aug 23rd 2005
247
Let's get this sweep going indeed
Aug 23rd 2005
251
This road trip is..
Aug 23rd 2005
253
Spell that again
Aug 24th 2005
258
      RE: Spell that again
Aug 24th 2005
260
^
Aug 23rd 2005
256
RE: ^
Aug 24th 2005
261
      you're welcome
Aug 24th 2005
262
*awaits the next streak*
Aug 24th 2005
257
Is a f@#$ing hit too much to ask for?
Aug 24th 2005
259
For Real!
Aug 24th 2005
263
just awful
Aug 24th 2005
264
Ellis led off the game with a solo shot...
Aug 24th 2005
266
Melhuse came through with a double to score Payton.
Aug 24th 2005
267
      Man, tonight's just not Bonderman's night
Aug 24th 2005
268
Nothing like a 9-2 win to ease the tension a bit
Aug 25th 2005
269
YES!
Aug 25th 2005
270
Damn I Forgot we had an early game today!
Aug 25th 2005
271
See, this is what we should have done to the Royals and Orioles
Aug 25th 2005
272
      Nice couple of wins but...........
Aug 25th 2005
273
           It feels good to finally win a series.
Aug 25th 2005
274
                I can maybe see the Indians falling off
Aug 25th 2005
275
                     Wildcard or not, let's just get in the playoffs
Aug 25th 2005
276
                          The problem with dealing with the Angels is Vlad
Aug 25th 2005
277
A's at O's
Aug 26th 2005
278
The only real reason to worry is no Harden
Aug 26th 2005
279
      I saw Cruz pitch a couple weeks ago
Aug 26th 2005
280
So far so good
Aug 27th 2005
281
Four in a row.
Aug 28th 2005
282
lucky bastards
Aug 28th 2005
283
Skill, it's skill
Aug 28th 2005
284
worst case scenario
Aug 28th 2005
285
      That's what I'm saying. But I think we've got it tomorrow
Aug 28th 2005
286
           unless there are sweeps in either series, i don't think much
Aug 28th 2005
287
           Freddie Bynum
Aug 29th 2005
288
                Yeah, I remember you bigging him up earlier
Aug 29th 2005
289
                     Bynum's D
Aug 29th 2005
294
What a difference...
Aug 29th 2005
290
Ellis deserves a Gold Glove
Aug 29th 2005
291
      Yeah I think you're right.
Aug 29th 2005
292
           I think Kotsay has a chance...
Aug 29th 2005
293
                Ellis
Aug 29th 2005
295
                     They'll probably bat him first or second with Kotsay out
Aug 29th 2005
296
                          *ahem*
Aug 29th 2005
297
                               My bad, as YOU mentioned before earlier
Aug 29th 2005
298
                                    The O's just took a 3-2 lead...
Aug 29th 2005
299
                                         Falling apart or not, Macha pulled him too early
Aug 29th 2005
300
                                         A's retake the lead on a 3 run HR by Johnson
Aug 29th 2005
301
                                              This A's team has been really good...
Aug 29th 2005
302
                                                   Now we're tied 5-5
Aug 29th 2005
303
                                                        How did Duchscherer get out of that inning?
Aug 29th 2005
304
                                                             Swisher went yard in the top of the 12th.
Aug 29th 2005
305
                                                             DJ getting to third on a Byrnes error is just poetic justice
Aug 29th 2005
306
                                                             Damn they broke that bitch open
Aug 29th 2005
308
                                                             I didn't see the play, how did DJ make it to third?
Aug 29th 2005
309
                                                                  RE: I didn't see the play, how did DJ make it to third?
Aug 29th 2005
310
                                                             RE: How did Duchscherer get out of that inning?
Aug 29th 2005
307
REVENGA!!!!!
Aug 29th 2005
311
It doesn't look good
Aug 29th 2005
312
      LOL! n/m
Aug 29th 2005
313
A's at Angels
Aug 30th 2005
314
* types thoughts *
Aug 30th 2005
315
I'm with y'all. It's better left unsaid
Aug 30th 2005
316
I plead the....
Aug 30th 2005
317
      What are the odds........
Aug 30th 2005
318
           After a loss? Oh, about 1-15,000
Aug 30th 2005
319
                You know SoCal fans only come out...
Aug 30th 2005
320
                     On a semi-related note...
Aug 30th 2005
321
                          GO
Aug 30th 2005
322
                          I'm going to try
Aug 30th 2005
323
                          I'd definitely go. Just don't eat at the stadium's Carls Jr.
Aug 30th 2005
324
                               $10 and it made you sick? What part of the game is that?
Aug 30th 2005
325
                                    Yeah man...
Aug 30th 2005
327
fuck it. put me on record
Aug 30th 2005
326
A's will win 4 of the next 6
Aug 30th 2005
328
      *twiddles thumbs and hums loudly*
Aug 30th 2005
329
I'm awaiting a haj20 appearance
Aug 31st 2005
330
      * quietly hums "Back in the Saddle Again" * n/m
Aug 31st 2005
332
           Haj20's new name is Richard Foster
Aug 31st 2005
335
                haha
Sep 01st 2005
344
                     How convenient
Sep 01st 2005
350
                          very
Sep 01st 2005
351
A"L"L" aboard the "L" train
Aug 31st 2005
331
So are you on board or not?
Aug 31st 2005
333
      Dope is trippin
Aug 31st 2005
334
           Yeah, I noticed that as soon as checked other posts
Aug 31st 2005
336
YES!!!
Aug 31st 2005
337
F@#k it, I gotta comment on the game.
Aug 31st 2005
338
      See I have issues with this
Aug 31st 2005
340
           The problem is that Vlad can hit anything
Aug 31st 2005
341
                RE: The problem is that Vlad can hit anything
Aug 31st 2005
342
lol at yankees fans thinking new york is better than the As
Aug 31st 2005
339
Everyone should send good vibes out to the Washington family
Aug 31st 2005
343
RE: Everyone should send good vibes out to the Washington family
Sep 01st 2005
345
Damn!
Sep 01st 2005
346
no doubt
Sep 01st 2005
348
Last night...
Sep 01st 2005
347
Scutaro
Sep 01st 2005
349
      Scutaro hasn't been lighting it up as of late
Sep 01st 2005
352
      Macha would be putting a lot of faith in Bynum
Sep 01st 2005
353
^
Sep 02nd 2005
354
You know, it's funny: even when the Angels win you manage to take a loss
Sep 02nd 2005
355
      RE: You know, it's funny: even when the Angels win you manage to take a ...
Sep 02nd 2005
356
      I pay this cat no mind.
Sep 02nd 2005
358
           thats true
Sep 02nd 2005
360
                hahhaha
Sep 02nd 2005
363
      talking smack? whos talking smack?
Sep 02nd 2005
359
Another tough loss...
Sep 02nd 2005
357
Yankees at A's
Sep 02nd 2005
361
i expect we'll do fine tonight
Sep 02nd 2005
362
We'll be fine this weekend
Sep 02nd 2005
364
congratulations to Vlad on his 300th HR
Sep 02nd 2005
365
as i was saying
Sep 03rd 2005
366
A's got done up again today
Sep 03rd 2005
367
Long weekend............... in more ways than one
Sep 06th 2005
368
Injuries could indeed sink us, which really sucks
Sep 06th 2005
369
      Y'all took the words out of my mouth.
Sep 06th 2005
370
           RE: Felix Hernandez
Sep 06th 2005
371
                RE: Felix Hernandez
Sep 06th 2005
372
not looking good at all
Sep 06th 2005
373
Anytime Scutaro is batting sixth, we're in trouble
Sep 07th 2005
374
      I know this is some look at the bright side shit but......
Sep 07th 2005
375
           Yeah, I'll co-sign on all of that...
Sep 07th 2005
376
           Excellent point, OldPro...
Sep 07th 2005
377
                Oh don't get it twisted
Sep 07th 2005
378
Looks like we have to play catch up....
Sep 07th 2005
379
WOW!
Sep 07th 2005
380
      That right there could save the season
Sep 07th 2005
381
      LMAO!
Sep 07th 2005
382
           Worst trade.Beane's ever made
Sep 07th 2005
383
      i don't understand how we can only be a half game away
Sep 07th 2005
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           Man, think about what good of a position we'd be in if...
Sep 08th 2005
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                RE: Man, think about what good of a position we'd be in if...
Sep 08th 2005
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                     hahaha! co-sign
Sep 08th 2005
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                          They're gonna have to start administering my oxygen
Sep 08th 2005
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A's at Rangers
Sep 09th 2005
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RE: A's at Rangers
Sep 09th 2005
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We pulled off some miracles that last time in Texas
Sep 09th 2005
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any word on crosby yet?
Sep 09th 2005
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      isn't he still on the DL?
Sep 09th 2005
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           Last night on the radio, they were talking like...
Sep 10th 2005
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nice to see the old Shields back yesterday
Sep 09th 2005
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Dude, on the real, just start your own post if ya want to big up the Ang...
Sep 09th 2005
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      why does it bother you so much?
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Well, that was a close one last night...
Sep 10th 2005
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20 games left
Sep 12th 2005
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A's at Indians
Sep 12th 2005
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Doesn't like great for Harden
Sep 12th 2005
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No doubt!
Sep 12th 2005
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Way to start this off the right way
Sep 12th 2005
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Houston Street
Sep 13th 2005
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Both points are right on the money.
Sep 13th 2005
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Ooh, good point. I forgot about that
Sep 13th 2005
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      Word
Sep 13th 2005
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Street and Bonds
Sep 13th 2005
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Great Win!!!
Sep 13th 2005
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on rookie of the year
Sep 13th 2005
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      RE: on rookie of the year
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      First of all, someone needs to tell Jhonny to stop...
Sep 13th 2005
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We lose, Angels lose
Sep 14th 2005
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Ben @#$%ing Broussard
Sep 14th 2005
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      Seems like that always happens
Sep 14th 2005
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           That one hurt!!!
Sep 14th 2005
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           Macha pulled Saarloos too early
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                Macha definitely pullled Saarloos too early.
Sep 14th 2005
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i take it back
Sep 14th 2005
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hahah.
Sep 14th 2005
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      We're getting no-hit by Westbrook
Sep 14th 2005
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           Last night, Westbrook worked us.
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                *grumble* I don't even want to talk about it
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Does anyone want the AL West?
Sep 15th 2005
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Definitely!
Sep 15th 2005
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Not to sound like a broken record...
Sep 15th 2005
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the same could be said for the Angels...
Sep 19th 2005
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There's nothing like beating the Red Sox
Sep 15th 2005
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Let's hope this isn't another one of those series...
Sep 16th 2005
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Vlad's shoulder
Sep 16th 2005
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      Take your time, Vlad.
Sep 16th 2005
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           RE: Take your time, Vlad.
Sep 16th 2005
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Did you catch Schilling's reaction...
Sep 16th 2005
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Payton Sucks
Sep 16th 2005
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You know, I thought about pulling a haji...
Sep 16th 2005
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      What's the deal with Payton's contract?
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           I want to say he's in his last year, but don't quote me
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                RE: I want to say he's in his last year, but don't quote me
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                     What do you think his market value is?
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                     RE: What do you think his market value is?
Sep 19th 2005
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                     from a couple sites i read this about payton's contract
Sep 18th 2005
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                          RE: from a couple sites i read this about payton's contract
Sep 19th 2005
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                               Good info...
Sep 19th 2005
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How sweet it is: 12-3
Sep 18th 2005
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i'm there tomorrow
Sep 18th 2005
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I'm glad we were able to salvage a split
Sep 19th 2005
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Crosby
Sep 19th 2005
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That's good news!
Sep 19th 2005
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Well, that was needlessly interesting
Sep 20th 2005
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According to SFGate.com...
Sep 20th 2005
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      Man, I about came out of my chair when Cosby hit the bag
Sep 20th 2005
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This shit is all coming down to that Angel series
Sep 21st 2005
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Yep yep
Sep 21st 2005
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Ellis
Sep 21st 2005
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Hopefully...
Sep 21st 2005
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      Sadly, Ellis CAN'T win comeback player of the year
Sep 21st 2005
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           Ellis isn't on the ballet?!??!?!
Sep 21st 2005
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*Bangs head on desk repeatedley*
Sep 21st 2005
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9-3 in the 7th
Sep 21st 2005
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      Real ugly!!!
Sep 21st 2005
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           Kennedy and Cruz were horrible
Sep 21st 2005
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Texas
Sep 22nd 2005
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If the Angels win again tonight we're fucked
Sep 22nd 2005
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      I'd love to go this weekend
Sep 22nd 2005
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      yah we're pretty much assed out barring a minor miracle
Sep 23rd 2005
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      come on tampa bay!
Sep 23rd 2005
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           Go D-Rays!
Sep 23rd 2005
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Rangers at A's
Sep 23rd 2005
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*gets broom ready*
Sep 23rd 2005
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      They should just do the right thing and roll over for us
Sep 23rd 2005
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first and third, no outs, can't score
Sep 25th 2005
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Well, we're screwed
Sep 26th 2005
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      From the replay...
Sep 26th 2005
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Angels at A's
Sep 26th 2005
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*sigh* I miss Tejada
Sep 26th 2005
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I can honestly say, I don't even think about Miggy
Sep 26th 2005
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      I wasn't thinking about Miggy either, until...
Sep 26th 2005
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           2006 Free Agents
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                Not that I want him but what do you think will happen with Sammie?
Sep 26th 2005
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                Chances are about 50/50 either way
Sep 26th 2005
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                Out of those guys? I spot a solid three
Sep 26th 2005
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                     I thought about Thomas too
Sep 26th 2005
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                     Hmmmmm...
Sep 26th 2005
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                          My girls games
Sep 26th 2005
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                     Konerko...
Sep 26th 2005
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                          Yep.
Sep 26th 2005
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Do or Die!
Sep 26th 2005
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this is it
Sep 26th 2005
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another reason to hate the angels
Sep 26th 2005
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Well, that's just wrong. But in fairness to the Angels...
Sep 26th 2005
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      That is cold blooded.
Sep 27th 2005
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ouuuut...magic number down to 2
Sep 27th 2005
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*shoots haji in the neck with a taser, backs bandwagon over his body*
Sep 27th 2005
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      RE: *shoots haji in the neck with a taser, backs bandwagon over his body...
Sep 27th 2005
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^^^ comes around here only during angel victories
Sep 27th 2005
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Yeah, you're right. I should stop being so negative
Sep 27th 2005
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keep in mind this was a rebuilding year
Sep 27th 2005
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Signing Haren to an extension was a great move.
Sep 27th 2005
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...and there it is
Sep 27th 2005
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*does Kano Mortal Kombat Fatality on haji*
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      haha
Sep 28th 2005
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           So you decide to smack like a chump here? Riiiiight.....
Sep 28th 2005
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                you're a funny guy
Sep 28th 2005
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                     This was a stretch drive post
Sep 28th 2005
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                          its funny how this post dropped to page 3 when the A's started losing.
Sep 28th 2005
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                               This post only dropped to the third page on weekends
Sep 28th 2005
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                                    RE: This post only dropped to the third page on weekends
Sep 29th 2005
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                                         why are you guys so bitter?
Sep 29th 2005
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                                              Because we fuckin lost
Sep 29th 2005
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                                                   RE: Because we fuckin lost
Sep 29th 2005
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*Pulls bandwagon to the side of the road, throws it in park*
Sep 28th 2005
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RE: *Pulls bandwagon to the side of the road, throws it in park*
Sep 28th 2005
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Word up
Sep 28th 2005
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I'm going to miss this thread lol
Sep 28th 2005
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Hell Yeah!
Sep 28th 2005
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it was a good season
Sep 28th 2005
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Went to the game tonight. Not much excitement or drama
Sep 29th 2005
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*puts casket in bandwagon*
Sep 29th 2005
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RE: *puts casket in bandwagon*
Sep 29th 2005
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haha @ you thinking thats me
Sep 29th 2005
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      Hold up
Sep 29th 2005
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           haha, you're a funny guy OldPro
Sep 29th 2005
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                Wait, are we bitter or humorous?
Sep 29th 2005
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                     you being bitter is hilarious
Sep 29th 2005
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                          You starting an Angels post
Sep 30th 2005
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                               solo dime donde y cuando
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                                    ^oops, replied to the wrong post, haha
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Laaaaaaaaaaaaammmmmmmmmmeeeeeeeee
Sep 29th 2005
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Okay, so this post doesn't end on a sour note, let's speculate...
Sep 30th 2005
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It will never happen
Sep 30th 2005
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      Former Red Sox coach Joe Morgan or ESPN Joe Morgan?
Sep 30th 2005
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           ESPN Joe Morgan
Oct 03rd 2005
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Yankees vs Angels
Oct 03rd 2005
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Macha is gone.
Oct 05th 2005
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Beat me to it by seconds, here's a swipe
Oct 05th 2005
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      Am I the only one that's not bothered by this at all?
Oct 05th 2005
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           Nah, you're not alone
Oct 05th 2005
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                I agree...
Oct 05th 2005
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                     Let me throw this name out there
Oct 05th 2005
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                          I don't see Pinella as a good fit
Oct 05th 2005
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                               RE: I don't see Pinella as a good fit
Oct 05th 2005
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                               Pinella will end up with the Yanks or the Marlins
Oct 05th 2005
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                               I don't see Lou fitting in either.
Oct 05th 2005
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                                    Why is this post still alive?
Oct 05th 2005
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                                         LOL!
Oct 14th 2005
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He's baaaaaaaaaaaaack!
Oct 14th 2005
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I don't like this at all
Oct 14th 2005
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I'd rather have Washington too..
Oct 14th 2005
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I love Washington, but he would have hated managing for Beane
Oct 14th 2005
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This time I beat you to it.
Oct 14th 2005
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1. "Dawg, you beat me to it"
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Hammering the Indians is important too, because the A's lowest point of the season was getting swept by the Indians at the end of May. Once we hit that point, we rallied and have'nt stopped cruising since.

The A's have only lost two series since May 29. One was against the Nationals, who were super-hot at the time, and one against the Blue Jays, who were strong at home. The A's took 2 out 3 against the White Sox in Oakland and swept them on the road. And of course they took 4 straight from Texas, in Texas no easy feat.

So get on the bandwagon while y'all can. I don't want to see anyone in September saying, "I knew they could do it," if you don't voice your support now.

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2. "jay payton sucks"
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3. "in boston...."
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5. "Payton hated the City of Boston"
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Dude was saying how much more "welcoming" Oakland felt. Not sure if he meant that in a racial way but that's how I took it.

  

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9. "stfu"
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we were all excited to have Payton, but he's a whiny bitch, and that's a fact. I guess being on the World Champs wasn't enough for him. Disrespectful ass.


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12. "Don't get mad just 'cause he's excelling over here"
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Trot Nixon's number aren't *that* much better than Payton's. And Payton's #'s are pretty good considering a general lack of playing time. It's all good to get fleeced by Billy Beane. It's happened to other teams before, it'll happen again.

BTW, enjoy Chad Bradford. Maybe he can be the closer.

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13. "don't be stupid"
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you have a childish little man playing for you. Trot is a gutsy, real-man player. It's worth it. He was never anything more than a back-up here, so I don't care if he's "excelling." As soon as things go bad, you'll hear him sniffling his little tears from miles away.

Payton was GETTING traded. There was no fleecing involved, and that actually pisses me off because Theo is a superior GM. Payton had a temper-tantrum in the lockeroom and embarassed himself. He was designated, thanks for taking the sourpuss off our hands.


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14. "Hard to compare the two"
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with the huge difference in payroll and very different fan bases to deal with. I'm not sure you can say one is better than the other. And don't use the championship to justify it.

  

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17. ""Difficult" players tend to get along pretty well here"
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Jose Guillen has had problems at every stop he's made, except for Oakland. Hell, he would've signed for less money than he did to join the Angels. Arthur Rhodes, a "difficult" player, got along fine out here. The only player who has ever acted up is Mark Redman, and that's 'cause he couldn't pitch for shit at home in Oakland.

What the crux of your argument seems to be is that he should have felt "honored" to have been allowed to play for the Red Sox. Frankly, that's the type of thinking that Yankee fans like to propagate, where it's somehow a priviledge to be able to play for such a worthy and storied franchise. Whatever.

Theo is a superior GM? Riiiiiiight. He's a Billy Beane wanaa-be with a big bankroll. I bet even he'd tell you that.

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18. "Yes! Many Sox fans have become what I've always hated"
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about Yankee fans. I'm at Fenway Park a lot and its become intolerable.

  

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19. "you don't count anymore"
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David McCarthy.


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24. "Right....."
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Good argument.

  

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21. "son"
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The Red Sox have won more playoff games in two years than the A's have in 15. Theo>>>Beane. He's done so much for us in two years.

And, you guys gotta settle down. Dave Roberts played back-up here even though he wanted to start, and he did it with DIGNITY and CHARM. We love Dave Roberts. Class act.

Payton acted up since day one - who the hell wouldn't fit in on this team?


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25. "lol"
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> Theo>>>Beane.

this is hilarious. epstein is a hack w/ a lot of money to play with. he's luckily been saved from his own stupid decisions. if the ARod trade had gone down like he wanted to, and if he had been able to sign Contreras like he wanted to (the yanks embarassed him on that deal), you red sox fans would be singing a different tune.

  

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30. "last year's deadline"
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was gutsy and brilliant.

Ortiz? Clement? Mueller?

The BK KIM deal was a bust, but a lot of people thought it would be the other way around.



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40. "contreras's agent clowned theo"
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said he was an amateur that didn't know what he was doing. i could win a world series with the kind of payroll he has to play with.

  

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102. "it was less about BK Kim anyways"
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and more about getting playing time for the emerging stars of Mueller, Ortiz, and Millar.

  

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27. "The Roberts thing was for a lot shorter time"
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and I agree about the playoff victories to a point, but there is always the payroll question. If Beane came to Boston as originally planned and Theo ended up somewhere else after a couple years would you be saying the same thing.

  

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28. "Yes"
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Theo is a progressive.


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33. "He's trying"
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Unfortunately he is tied to Charles Steinberg and Lucchino's PR Department.

  

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36. "Theo did it with money"
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Red Sox fans may be in denial over this, but it's true.

The only bonafied genius decision he made was the Ortiz signing. And even he was one of many 1B/DH types he signed in the off-season before 2003.

Schilling might have turned down the Yankees, but he didn't exactly sign for minimum wage in Boston. And the Red Sox signed Foulke strictly on the basis of the money. And the Red Sox wouldn't have made the play-offs, much less won the World Series, without Foulke, as much as Red Sox fans like to down him these days.

Give Beane Theo's bankroll, and he signs Giambi, Tejada, Foulke, Hudson, and Mulder to long-term deals, along with Chavez and Zito. Probably still ends with Kotsay, brings up Harden, and has Crosby play second base. Pretty damn good team, no?

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46. "theo can't be blamed for the farm system"
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it isn't his fault Trot Nixon and Nomar are the only guys they brought up, but now we've got prospects.

And, also - Theo has made some incredible moves - last year's deadline trade (beane-esque), Clement, Former batting champ Bill Mueller, re-signing both Tek and Mirabelli...the Schilling deal...
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140. "RE: Theo did it with money"
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Schilling didn't sign for anything it was a trade. A damn good one at that. And are we forgetting the Nomar trade? We criticized it at the time, but now realize its genious.

  

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26. "RE: Don't get mad just 'cause he's excelling over here"
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we're getting kapler back so it's a win-win here in boston.

  

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34. "he was on EEI today"
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38. "Well, can he play 2B? Or be the closer?"
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100. "Foulke will come back nice"
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I can feel it bitches.

  

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47. "he didn't have a starting spot"
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he's a starter.

simple as that.

  

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23. "RE: Payton hated the City of Boston"
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we only welcome good players. and thanks for assuming that it was racial.

  

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35. "cosign"
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that really pissed me off. I hate that shit - the fans embrace players of all backgrounds - Pokey, Manny, Ortiz, Youkilis, Trot...


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43. "Look Chowd"
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I only repeated what dude said and how I thought he meant it. Don't get all bent out of shape because you have a city with a not so pretty record on race relations. It's your fucking town and your fucking problem. Don't direct that shit at those of us 3,000 miles away.

  

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51. "RE: Look Chowd"
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as opposed to oakland rosy red history of race relations?

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55. "Oakland & Boston"
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>as opposed to oakland rosy red history of race relations?

What player has ever said he had an issue with Oakland's racial climate? Now how many have talked about Boston's?

I'm sorry you don't like this but it is what it is man.

  

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136. "RE: Oakland & Boston"
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it's been awhile since a player requested to never get traded here because of race relations (ignoring Bonds' request because it was not based on anything he had experienced). And as many have pointed out: Jim Rice, who had possibly the worst relationship of any player with his own fans in Boston, has come back to work for them and NESN as a co-host on the pre- and post- game show. He recognizes progress, do you? It is what it is.

  

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101. "RE: Look Chowd"
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the cornerstone of this team (and the most beloved fan favorites) since 1997 has been hispanic from Nomar to Pedro to Manny to Ortiz. Other fan favorites of the recent past include Mo Vaughn, Pokey Reese, and of course, Orlando Cabrera. A lot of people on these boards point to a player like Jim Rice. Well,...that guy was just a dick, and probably would have been if he was white too. He's mellowed out since his playing days and has come back to co-host the pre- and post-game shows for the sox

  

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4. "repping the Kelly Green since circa 1972"
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>I hope I don't jinx them by doing this but we need to have a
>post for the playoff stretch.

I was afraid of jinxing them too, but I'm loving it right now.

A few weeks ago, people were talking about how it would be impossible to catch the Angels with the great ball they were playing. Well, they are still playing well and we're making up ground.

Nice to see the boys not wait until late August to start putting it together.

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6. "Can Huston Street handle the late-season pressure?"
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That is the question.

  

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7. "RE: Can Huston Street handle the late-season pressure?"
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That's a good question too. Not sure what the answer is but we're going to find out. But then, that's how all great closers are born.

  

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8. "RE: The A's bandwagon boards here"
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i was laughed at on here when i said the A's were going to make the playoffs. not only do they have a good shot at the wildcard, i think they've got a good chance to snatch the division from the angels. the angels starting pitching is not that impressive to me and the A's are one of the best second half teams in baseball. and w/duchscherer and street dominating, the A's have fixed what was once a big weakness.

  

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94. "Only thing in their way now is the evil Chicago Sports Media"
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Let's just hope Jay Marriotti doesn't blame them for something while he's on PTI for Kornheiser this week.

  

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10. "won't make the playoffs"
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15. "They might"
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They have a better pitching staff than the Red Sox/Yankees/Orioles/Indians and possibly the Twins for now.

  

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22. "if sox add schmidt or burnett"
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but the white sox have the best pitching.

A's always make runs like this then either flop in the playoffs or don't even make it at all.


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29. "RE: if sox add schmidt or burnett"
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>A's always make runs like this then either flop in the
>playoffs or don't even make it at all.

In any year between 1918 and 2004 I could have made this exact same statement about the Red Sox.

And you're forget that we're a legitimate play-off contender in a rebuilding year. Meanwhile, both the Red Sox and the Yankees spent tens of millions in the off-season, and there's a distinct possbility that one of them won't make the play-offs. I guess there's even a possibility that neither would make the play-offs, but that's expecting too much of the Orioles.

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32. "I don't think many would argue"
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that the Red Sox in the past two years make more "good" moves than the Yankees. They're also chipping away at the payroll as they are going along, or trying to. There's still talks of moving Manny this off-season.

And just because it was "true" of the Red Sox doesn't make it untrue of Oakland.


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31. "I'm not sure either of those guys make the staff better as a whole"
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than Oakland's only because the Sox bullpen is in such bad shape.
But you're right, the A's playoff track record is pretty bad lately. I don't think they can win it all right now anyway but they are in a damn good position to be very good for the next few years. Beane has got some serious payroll flexibility even on such a low budget. Theo would love to have that but I think he's a few years away, which I can't wait for personally. Bottom line, they are a fun team to watch, its a good story, and its a good model of the sort of team Theo is trying to buildin some regard.

  

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39. "I think Theo will get there"
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This year has been kinda rough even tho we're in first - lack of production almost all the way around.


He needs to move Manny, which probably won't be a popular move. I'd love to keep Damon, Millar's good as gone - I bet. But I trust in Theo endlessly.


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44. "I originally thought he'd stand pat as we argued before"
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but you might be right.
Interestingly enough, Harold Reynolds (not a great source i know) said Beane is getting involved in the AJ Burnett "sweepstakes." Maybe this settles some of your arguments.
I still think its hard to compare the two. I do agree THeo had a little luck in losing Contreras, Pavano, ARod etc but then again Beane wins that by default since he's not in the place to be bidding on those high tier guys.


Edit: typo McCarthy instead of McCarty.

  

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45. "Add not having Nomar sign a 4 yr 48 million dollar deal and"
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DLowe not signing for the 3 yr 27 mil.
I think Theo excels in adding a lot of the complementary players. He hasnt had the chance yet to sign (not trade and sign a la Schilling) big "stars" via free agency because he inherited most of them. Foulke then Renteria are the first two I can recall. I think he'll do a good job there once the payroll becomes flexible.

  

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11. "Hmph."
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16. "this is a nice run..."
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...but you are not catching the Angels. Leave your delusions @ the door.
I read Chavvy's comments today, and its nice to want things, but its not gonna happen. Concentrate on the wild card and it might work out.

  

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20. "I'm not expecting them to take the West, but..."
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...I didn't expect them to finish the season with 85 wins, and now all we have to do is play .500 ball for the rest of the season to accomplish that feat. I don't think we'll catch the Angels, but they'll make it interesting. The three game series in Oakland in a couple of weeks will be key.

The major, major test is going to be September, where we plays three against the Yanks at home, three against the Red Sox in Boston, three against the Twins in Minnesota, and then the Angels, Rangers, and Mariners. Now if we lock shit up in August, that shouldn't be a problem, but we'll see.

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37. "*breaks one of the wheels on the wagon*"
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42. "Okay, who let the Anaheim Angels fan in?"
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48. "Billy Beane=Pope of Chillitown"
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49. "Of course the day I post this"
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The A's 7 game streak is snapped

It's all good though. They got another great outting from a starter last night but just couldn't get the bats going.

What's important is we keep taking these series. Now if we lose today, we need to sweep the Tigers. More than two loses on this home stand would hurt.

At least the Angels and Twins both lost.

  

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50. "Speaking as some who went to the game last night"
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it was discouraging, but not horribly painful. Blanton wasn't tops on the control, and was pitching slow as hell. The ump was really squeezing him too. And for all that, he only really made one bad pitch, the double which scored the run.

The bats going dead was not cool. Especially in the ninth when they had 1st and 2nd and no one out. But the broke out the lumber so hard money night, you had to expect a bit of a drop-off.

We're still in the there. Hopefully Haren will bring it today.

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53. "RE: Speaking as some who went to the game last night"
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Ellis not getting that bunt down was a killer.

I couldn't make it out there last night but my wife took my 13 year old daughter (who's a bigger A's fan than me)She was bummed out after she got home last night. I told her they can't win every game. She looked at me and said "Why not"

I forgot home much every loss used to hurt me as a kid.

I'll be the Sunday to see what hopefully will be the end to a 3 game sweep of the Tigers.

  

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58. "Ha, I'm of the same mindframe as your daughter"
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After the game, I was thinking to myself, "Eh, we can't win them all." But then part of me is like, why not? Life just seems that much sweeter the day after an A's win. And it sucks not having that feeling.

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59. "Fires up MLBTV"
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What's better than watching a ball game at work lol

  

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60. "A's take another series"
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2 in the 9th and then a 2 out rally in the 10th

A's 5 Indians 4

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61. "Oh shit! They pulled it out! Daaaaammnnn!!!"
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I saw they came back in the ninth. (Though I heard they blew based loaded and one out). That's tight. Man, I need to get a radio at my desk. I don't see how you can watch TV at work. Lucky bastid.

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62. "One of the nice things about having your own office lol"
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I couldn't watch the whole game but I saw the 9th and 10th.

The 10th was sweet. Two out single by Ellis followed by a Payton double. Scutero came through with a base hit and that was it. Now we need to sweep the Tigers. Take 2 of 3 at the very least.

  

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63. "The key is to just keep winning series man"
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52. "For the record"
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I'm on board. I do think oakland will make the playoffs.......getting past the first round will be another story, but I have to say that I am EXTREMELY impressed with the A's right now.

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56. "It took 20+ titles for Yankee fans to become this obnoxious"
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It took Sox fans 1

Congrats

  

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64. "you guys staying on all the way till the end disions playoffs?"
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cuz you know it aint going nowhere after that

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65. "As I said up top..."
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Just making the play-offs in rebuilding year is a feat in itself. I really doubt any other team has done it. Hell, one only other team has made the play-offs after being 15 under .500, and that was 90 years ago.

So I won't be mad if the don't make it past the division series.

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66. "they never make it past the division playoffs"
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so they rebuilding every year?

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68. "Right, and the last time the Dodgers made it past the first round was?...."
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I'll answer the question for ya, 1988, when you beat the A's for the World Championship.

So they been rebuilding every year since then too?

By your logic, the A's have been rebuilding for a shorter time (since 1990, when the went to the World Series but lost).

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67. "I love these guys who"
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wanna tease fans of teams that don't win the world series.

If we disowned them, then we'd be fair-weather fans though.

Hey, if they lose in the playoffs, they'll still be miles ahead of most teams.

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70. "nope i aint saying disown them"
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but i'd say there is a problem when you make the playoffs every fucking year and fail to advance. Just like the Braves there is a problem when you win your division for over a decade straight and only have 1 world series to show for it.

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71. "shit, that's a nice problem to have"
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>Just like the Braves
>there is a problem when you win your division for over a
>decade straight and only have 1 world series to show for it.

I'll take that problem every year. Every year, the playoffs on around 50 mil? That means we're either beating Anaheim with 40-50 mil more to spend a year, or Boston/NY, who has 100-200 mil to spend for a free ticket to the playoffs via wildcard.

anything in the playoffs is gravy to me.

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69. "i love looking at this:"
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http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/teams/salaries?team=oak

and

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=250529105

puts this season into perspective.

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72. "These 4 are just embarrassing"
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27. Milwaukee 40,234,833
28. Pittsburgh 38,133,000
29. Tampa Bay 37,975,067
30. Kansas City 36,881,000

Milwaukee and Pitsburgh have new parks and they can't spend more than 40 mil on payroll? Jesus, their owners shouldn't even be allowed to own the team. And Kansas City....... man that was a great baseball city. It's a damn shame what's going on there.

  

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73. "Dotel and Durazo"
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are making 10 mil between them in 2005

http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/2004_12_31_mlbcontracts_archive.html

Add Kennedy's contract of over 2 and there is more than enough money right there to resign Zito

  

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74. "don't forget hatteberg's contract, isn't he done after this year? n/m"
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75. "Yep. This is his last year on the contract"
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I doubt the A's will resign him. He could probably find work somewhere as a Left-handed DH/1B, but there's talk that he could join the front office. That might be a good move.

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76. "RE: Yep. This is his last year on the contract"
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I saw that. Part of me would really like to see him back one more year. Just in case Johnson has a sophomore slump. Hatteberg has been a quality player for the A's over the years. I'll be sorry to see him go.

  

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77. "while we're being sentimental"
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anywhere I can find a video clip of the HR he hit to win the 20th game of The Streak? I've been looking for a while, no luck though...

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79. "Nah, can't help you. I was there for that game though"
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And for all the excitement over the significance of that game, it's in my top 10 for least enjoyable baseball games I've ever gone to.

You want hell? Try watching your favorite team score 10 runs in the first few innings then blow the whole thing. Witness the complete inability of your pitchers to get the big out. The Hatteberg HR was big, but most of that game blew.

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78. "Peter Gammons talking about Beane trying to get Dunn"
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Kotsay Kendall Chavez Crosby Dunn Swisher Johnson is pretty impressive
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80. "dunn's away splits are garbation"
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http://sports.yahoo.com/mlbpa/players/6763/splits

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81. "Wow"
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He's got 18 more hits at home and 13 more HRs. So its those balls flying out the Cinci park. that's crazy.

  

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82. "I don't want Dunn"
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I know he plays left but Swisher is putting up numbers that aren't much different. If we wanted to go after another left handed hitter, I'd rather see us make a run at Griffy.

  

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83. "Griffey is signed though 2008"
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I didn't know dude had that many years left on his deal.

No way are the A's taking on that salary for 3 more years.

Forget my last comment

  

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84. "come on Toronto!"
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what a game

  

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85. "The Angels lead is down to 3.5"
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And now they head into New York for a 3 game set.

This divisional race is far from over.

  

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86. "It always pains me to root for the Yankees..."
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...but now is the time. If we can buck Detroit and the Yankees can come through at home, it will be things really interesting. Hopefully, the Yanks won't choke like they did last weekend.

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87. "A's win yet another series"
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Sixth series in a row I believe. Which, of course, is just one of the many of their impressive accomplishments in recent days. In fact, they won the game on the two-month anniversary of turning this season around.

The last two games haven't been pretty, with the Tigers hitting our best two pitchers but well, but the hitters made up for it, and both Zito and Harden got their wins. And now Zito seems a lock to win pitcher of the month for July (6-0 for the month, an ERA of around 2.00, and an opponent batting average of around .200).

Plus, this means there's not as much pressure to beat Bonderman tomorrow, who always give the A's fits.

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89. "Sweep"
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Yesterday was a great day to be at the ballpark. A warm Sunday afternoon, home runs by Swisher and Payton, a Jason Kendall bobble-head, a 2 hour and seven minute game and a 3 game sweep. Yes, life is good right now for A's fans.

  

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90. "I shoulda gone to the game yesterday"
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Instead, I tried in vain to work a hook-up into the "Rock the Bells" concert for free. Didn't work out. All things considered, I'd rather have seen Saarloos get one-strike away from a complete game shut-out.

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88. "Creepin' on ah come"
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UP!

(c) Bone, Thugs n' Harmony.

1.5 behind the Angels if they can close this out.

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91. "4 game set @ Minn"
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I'd be happy with a split considering where we are in the rotation.

Winning this series would be gravy.

  

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92. "Beating Santana was huge"
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Blanton pitched out of his head last night. This was the game I figured the Twins would take. With Harden & Zito going in game 3 & 4, I'm thinking we can win this series. I'd still take the split but 3 of 4 would be sweet.

  

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93. "Blanton only threw one bad pitch all night"
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I was worried that him and Haren would start getting tired right around now, but homie through probably the best game of his career. What a night to pull out his first road win.

I definitely thinking we can take at least three out of four. We don't have to face Radke, and I think Zito can take Lohse. All we gotta do is keeping scrapping away over there.

Man, I haven't had this much fun since the 20 game win streak. This is just a blast and a half.

Time is running out for the rest of y'all to hop on the bandwagon. They'll stop selling tickets after the next homestand.

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105. "Twins win game 3"
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At first that felt like a tough loss. Then after about 2 minutes, I felt like that was a fitting way for us to lose. Bad call on what should have been a inning ending strike 3, which leads to an almost catch and almost tag. If that's what it's taking to beat the A's right now, I feel pretty damn good.

I know I said I just wanted a split in this series, but after winning the first two, not winning the series would be somewhat of a let down.

  

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106. "Missed the game, but heard about it"
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From what I understand, Macha should hav enever taken out Harden. Homeboy's not on a pitchcount anymore, and could have gotten the extra out. Sure, Cuddyder hit a HR off of him earlier, but Harden had gotten him out since then.

I also heard about us getting jobbed in the 9th, which kind of sucks. Ah well. I hope Zito can win today, give us back some momentum to go into KC and cream the Royals. Lohse numbers aren't so good anyway.

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107. "I still don't understand why he lifted Harden"
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Two outs in the 7th with a man on. He just over-managed last night.

  

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108. "RE: I still don't understand why he lifted Harden"
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>Two outs in the 7th with a man on. He just over-managed last
>night.

by that point he had thrown over a 100 pitches. it's understandable since there's Durscherer and Street in the bullpen, but D didn't come through anyways. the good part is, even when the As lose, they still usually play well.

  

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109. "What's 5 or 6 more?"
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I can understand if there was less than two outs but you gotta let him work to one more batter in that situation

<as I post this, LaCroy has just hit a homer to break up Barry's no hitter. A's 1 Twins>

  

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110. "RE: What's 5 or 6 more?"
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>I can understand if there was less than two outs but you
>gotta let him work to one more batter in that situation
>
><as I post this, LaCroy has just hit a homer to break up
>Barry's no hitter. A's 1 Twins>

and johnson comes through again.
i think, in a few minutes, we're gonna get to see if the bullpen can redeem itself for yesterday.

  

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111. "Fuck, now it's 2 all"
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I wish they could hit this jabroni Lohse better. Come on now, 2 runs? We can do better than that.

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112. "That's right. We bad, we bad."
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Three out of four against the Twins, in Minnesota. Just a bad piece of work right there. Plus, even more good situational hitting in that final inning. Though with all those hits, we should have creamed these guys.

And another great Zito performance. All right, I'll say it: if he keeps going like this, why shouldn't he be considered for the Cy Young?

Next stop, KC. Let's try to sweeps these guys. Another 6-1 road trips sound great right about now.

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113. "I'm not looking for a sweep of KC"
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It would nice but with Harden and Zito both out of this series, 2 of 3 is more than acceptable.

  

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115. "We could do it"
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I mean, they're the frickin' Royals. Yeah, it's Saarloos, Blanton, and Haren, but they're all coming off very good games. The Royals pitching is awful, ditto their hitting.

I tried set the bar conservative, but come on, we just took two out of three from the Twins in Minnesota. That was unfathomable even in the 2002/2003 seasons. This series has even further empowered my fandom. We can do this.

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116. "Not saying they can't sweep"
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2 of 3 is acceptable

Dude, they are going to have a set back sooner or later. Just by the nature of the game and bad breaks, you can't play damn near 800 ball forever. Look at the last two games they have lost. One play the other way, and they would have won both of those. Shit man, they could be on a 12 or 13 game winning streak with just one more break. How long has it been since they were just beat down? I'd love a sweep of KC but I'm just looking at this like what do we need to keep MO on our side.

  

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95. "33-7"
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With their 5-2 win last night vs the Twins, the A's are now 33-7 in their last 40. No A's team in history has posted a record that good over a 40 game stretch.

At some point people are going to have to stop calling them "hot" and just realize they are pretty damn good.

  

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98. "As they keep on saying on the radio and on TV"
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They're going out there with the attitude that they will win every single game. And with the way they're playing, sometimes it seems possible. Things just keep going their way. And they do they play damn good situational baseball. For example, I think every runner who drew a walk last night scored. It's key to do the little things like that.

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99. "Right"
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>They're going out there with the attitude that they will win
>every single game. And with the way they're playing, sometimes
>it seems possible. Things just keep going their way. And they
>do they play damn good situational baseball. For example, I
>think every runner who drew a walk last night scored. It's key
>to do the little things like that.

As Joe Morgan has pointed out over the last 4 or 5 years, that was the one thing that really hurt the A's in the playoffs. The inability to scratch out that run when they just have to get one. We're not really playing small ball but we do play great situational ball as you said. I think this team is much better suited for the playoffs. Now whether that's this season or next is the only question remaining. This team is going to be around for a while so folks better get used to it.

  

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96. "Question: Do the young pitchers fade?"
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They are not used to this much work. Is it possible they fade alittle toward the end of the season? Haren, Blanton, Harden and Street will all reach highs in innings pitched I think.

  

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97. "RE: Question: Do the young pitchers fade?"
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First of all, this is Harden's second full season, plus the half a season he worked in 2003. So he won't get tired. And Street's a closer, so it probably won't be a factor for him. I'd be more worried about the pressure of being a rookie closer pitching in so many important games. But I don't think his arm will tire.

OTherwise, I shared the same concerns about Blanton and Haren. Both looked like they were tiring not too long ago, and although Haren had won 7 in a row, he wasn't pitching as sharp. However, these last two games have turned me around a bit. Plus, Macha is showing all indications that he plans on giving the two of them extra rest down the stretch, which could entail pitching Saarloos every fifth day, instead of when his turn comss up, or even starting Kennedy. I'm not too worried.

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114. "I agree. Haren and Blanton are the two most significant concers here"
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especially in the playoffs.
Harden still didnt crack 200 innings last year. The injury actually may have helped since he's only at 100 or so right now.
Street struck out the side today for the save. Very impressive. His poise is incedible.I think Hansen for the Red Sox will be very similar. But just because he's a closer doesn't mean he can't tire. Its all relative to how many innings his arm is used to and what degree it fades after usage. He looks fine though.

  

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103. "i hope they lose"
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i would cheer for them if it weren't for the fact that I bet 5 dollars they would finish in 3rd or 4th place with my brother.

  

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104. "That's money gone bruh"
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Even if they don't make the play-offs (and that's looking like a big if) they sure as hell won't be worse than Seattle, and barring a disaster will finihsh better than the Rangers. Ya should hav ehad faith in Beane and the boys.

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117. "RE: That's money gone bruh"
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i love Beane and the A's system. But losing Mulder and Huddy is huge.

  

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134. "Haren is Mulder basically"
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and Harden is Hudson
and Zito is better than Zito last year.
I still foresee the problem being any sort of fade with the young pitchers and problems with their offense against better playoff caliber pitching. Crosby has slumped lately and without him and Kotsay (health?), they could have trouble against a Schilling led (?) Red Sox team or the Chicago staff.
Either way, I hope they get in because it will make the playoffs more fun to watch than if the Yanks or Twins somehow get in. I'd love an Oakland-Boston ALCS.

  

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137. "RE: Haren is Mulder basically"
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I think that would be a great series. I personally would have liked to see the Twins with a healthy team against the Sox. I wanna see what that staff can really do.

And i like harden, but he is no hudson. and remember, mulder was basically the cy youn of the first half last year. haren is not mulder.

  

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138. "Compare the #s of last year"
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Especially Mulder and Haren. Granted you're right Mulder had a great stretch and maybe more impressive than anything Haren put up over a period of time but if you look at them over a longer period (which is more important?) they are very similar.

When their careers are over, Harden will have better #s than Hudson. Harden is a big time stike out guy with plus stuff. Hudson is by all means very good but Harden will be easily as good. They are also remarakably similar in their injuries (last year Hudson pulled his oblique, this year Harden did).

  

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139. "RE: Compare the #s of last year"
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>Especially Mulder and Haren. Granted you're right Mulder had
>a great stretch and maybe more impressive than anything Haren
>put up over a period of time but if you look at them over a
>longer period (which is more important?) they are very
>similar.
>

true

>When their careers are over, Harden will have better #s than
>Hudson. Harden is a big time stike out guy with plus stuff.
>Hudson is by all means very good but Harden will be easily as
>good. They are also remarakably similar in their injuries
>(last year Hudson pulled his oblique, this year Harden did).


tough to say. Both of them are still pretty young and I think Harden will shape up into an incredible pitcher and Hudson will continue to be an incredible pitcher. Huddy just notched his 100th win I believe. He could conceivably make it to 300. I don't know if anybody will from here on out though.

  

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141. "Unfortunately, as you probably know,"
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injuries could likely predict how Hudson is remembered.

I guess the point is, Beane got lucky in that Zito, Harden and Haren/Blanton have performed as well as Hudson, Mulder Zito of last year. and they got a very good closer. While Beane probably knew this would happen or that was the plan anyway, I dont think anyone thought they'd all be this effective, especialy at this pt. in the season.

I really liked the Haren move at the time. His performance in the World Series alone made me think that he could succeed as a starter.

  

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147. "RE: Unfortunately, as you probably know,"
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>injuries could likely predict how Hudson is remembered.
>

As a huge baseball fan, it's unfortunate to see young guns that are riddled with injuries. You know they have hall of fame potential but they just keep getting injured. Watching guys like Wood, Prior, and Beckett pains me because you know they're just not going to stay healthy. We'll see what happens with peavey, but it doesn't look too good.

>I guess the point is, Beane got lucky in that Zito, Harden and
>Haren/Blanton have performed as well as Hudson, Mulder Zito of
>last year. and they got a very good closer. While Beane
>probably knew this would happen or that was the plan anyway, I
>dont think anyone thought they'd all be this effective,
>especialy at this pt. in the season.
>
>I really liked the Haren move at the time. His performance in
>the World Series alone made me think that he could succeed as
>a starter.


I never really paid attention to Haren but I can see agreeing with the Haren trade but A's fans should have been pissed about the Huddy trade. It may have worked out for the best though in some crazy Billy Beane way. Goddamn he's a genious. I expected Harden to be this good. Zito though, not so much.

  

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118. "i love how two stubborn ass A's fans are keeping this thread alive"
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I think we're tying for 1st tomorrow. Paul Byrd and Zach Grienke gets knocked around, A's get top billing on Sports Center.

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119. "We are finally getting shine"
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ESPN has been buying the A's in the middle of both basbeball tonight and sports center. Last night was the first time I can remember seeing the A's in the first 5 minutes of the show. If the A's were an east coast team, they would have been the lead story for the last month. I mean this is an amazing story. Not just the 34-8 run but the fact the were left for dead 17 games under in May. I've never seen a turn around like this in all my years of watching baseball. This is the story of the season and ESPN is just now jumping on it.

  

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120. "By the morning show, we were back to the middle"
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Shit, they showed the Mets/Brewers highlights and an installment of the 50/50 thing, before they showed the A's highlights. Shoot, for months they gave more shine to the Astros, who, while coming from 17 under, still don't have as good of a record for the A's, but hey, they've got Roger Clemens.

This is part of the reason I'm riding so hard for them now and why I hate it so much when they lose. It's the Oakland persecution complex coming in: everyone so ready to write as off at any given moment that I want to just smash every single team every single game. Like OldPro said, if the Mets and the Red Sox had done this, it wouldlead off Sportscenter every night and it would have made the cover of Sports Illustrated three times over. I don't think the A's have gotten a full article since this turnaround started.

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121. "haha yeah i was talking about you two ^^^^"
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With regard to east coast bias, well, proportionately very few people care about the A's, as evidenced by ESPN coverage and the number of unique people in this post. And there are plenty of reasons to be bothered by that, but i prefer to just enjoy the ride. In my very few years of watching this game, it seems to me that the nature of the biz is this: if you're not a major market team, the only way you're gonna get front page is if you win a ring. So that's what the A's will have to do. Until then, we'll be on KICU TV 36 and Fox Sports Net on days when the Giants aren't playing, and the back end of Baseball Tonight.

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122. "Yeah, it wasn't a secret you were talking about is"
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But whatever, if others on this board don't recognize, I ain't tripping. And I'm used to the nation ignoring the team by now. It just amazes me that ESPN and the like follows the exact same script every time this happens in Oakland.

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123. "RE: By the morning show, we were back to the middle"
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The coverage was gettin' really annoying. I've been on vacation in HI for over two weeks and tryin' to follow the A's run on ESPN was pissin' me off. I didn't really have internet access so I had to rely on Baseball Tonight. When they would even show the A's I would get like two highlights, usually of the other teams star like Mark Texeira hittin' a solo shot then, "oh by the way the A's win again that makes of their last 8" thrown in right before web gems or somthin. shit was rediculous.

  

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124. "Who thinks we're gearin up for a sweep?"
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It's nice to see the A's gettin' some shine on the boards. Now they just gotta keep the run goin'.

  

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125. "whatscoolerthancool"
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Looks like reinforcements have arrived lol

  

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126. "Thanks for showing your support, sir"
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Keep with the posting. Most of the time it's me and OldPro having a one on one conversation.

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129. "RE: Thanks for showing your support, sir"
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My teams don't get too much love around here so now that I'm back in town i'm definitely down to rep the A's up in here.

  

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127. "Good fan site"
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www.athleticsnation.com

In case y'all didn't know about it.

  

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128. "RE: Good fan site"
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Definitly a well run site. It's the only place here in SD where i can get good info on the A's.

  

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131. "this one's good too"
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http://athletics.scout.com/index.html

the message boards have some pretty insightful posts.

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130. "That's one game down"
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We took the opener, even with Sarloos struggling. Only two more to go for the sweep.

  

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132. "RE: That's one game down"
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What was impressive was the way they came right back with 2 runs after going down 4-3. They are playing with so much confidence it's sick. Man, you know teams are hatin' to see Oakland on their schedule right about now.

  

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133. "Now that was a good ol' fashioned red-blooded American ass-whupping"
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Sometimes you really need to break fool and bust out the heavy artillery just to prove you can. And 16 to 1 just about does it.

And it wasn't like the were showing the Royals up. They just played good situational baseball and kept the runners moving along the bases. Hell, they finally gave Blanton some run support that he deserved.

I did feel a little bad for Jimmy Gobble, who probably didn't deserve to get left out to dry like that. I guess he just had to take one for the team.

So we've now won our 8th straight series, and 15 of the last 16 series. Now let's see if we can close this out with a sweep.

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135. "Tied for first"
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Angels lose 6-4

This series coming up in Oakland is going to be huge

  

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142. "*turns in late pass*"
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hops on bandwagon. next stop, the top of the a.l. west.

  

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143. "If ya came to the jam, then I'm glad ya came (c) Q-Tip"
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Glad to have you aboard. If all goes well, the bandwagon will probably stop accepting late passes at the end of the week.

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144. "RE: If ya came to the jam, then I'm glad ya came (c) Q-Tip"
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thanks for taking my pass. i've been an a's fan for the longest, but i'm still somewhat new to this board.

i'm going to the game tomorrow against the angels. i can't wait to see harden put us over the top.

GO A's!!!

  

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145. "RE: If ya came to the jam, then I'm glad ya came (c) Q-Tip"
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Welcome aboard

  

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146. "Good looks and thanks for showing up"
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I had tickets to Wednesday game, but I can't make it. D'oh! I'm going to scournge up tickets to Saturday's game to see Eck get his number retired, and I already have tickets to next Monday's game against the O's, so I can see Miggy back in town for the first time this season. By then, hopefully we'll be firmly in control.

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148. "RE: If ya came to the jam, then I'm glad ya came (c) Q-Tip"
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i just hope you keep the yanks out of the playoffs.

  

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149. "RE: If ya came to the jam, then I'm glad ya came (c) Q-Tip"
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>i just hope you keep the yanks out of the playoffs.

That would be icing on the cake

  

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183. "RE: If ya came to the jam, then I'm glad ya came (c) Q-Tip"
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then I'll lose five bucks to my brother, just go out and do it. Just make sure the Angels don't fall to far.

  

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150. "The bandwagon stopped for gas last night vs the Angels lol"
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We get back on the road tonight with Barry driving

  

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151. "We can't win 'em all"
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That one was particularly ugly, but a loss here or there is to be expected.

In all honesty, though I think we will still win the final two, I won't be upset unless we get swept. What I'm more worried about is Kotsay and Hatteberg being injured. Playing Mellhuse as DH is not a good solution.

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152. "These type of games happen"
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It's just that they haven't been happening to the A's at all over the last few weeks. You have to go back to July 6th to find the last game the A's have lost by more than 3 runs. So it kind of takes a second to realize that this is just the nature of a league that plays 162 games in a season. We have to look at a series rather than one game. And we really can't even get too caught up in a series or two. I mean it's only August and there is a lot that can and will happen between now and the end of the season. If we lose tonight sure that's going to give the Angels a shot in the arm. But if the A's win the west in the end, nobody is going to remember or care that they lost a game or series to the Angels in August. The fact we are even having this convo without being laughed off these boards is amazing considering where the A's were in May.

  

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153. "RE: We can't win 'em all"
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I agree about that Kotsay injury. Backs are tough. It's hard to say when he'll come back. Hopefully, it will be soon because we could use really use out on the field. Although, Payton has done a good job filling in.

  

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154. "RE: The bandwagon stopped for gas last night vs the Angels lol"
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hahha. zito will refill the tank. there is still plenty of series to go.

last night, harden reverted back to his old ways by giving up some runs early. it's been a while since i've seen him pitch that bad. he settled down after the 2nd, but by then it was too late. the damage was already done.

  

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out of those balls hit off Harden in the first two innings, only two of them were hit hard: Figgins double and Vlad's grand-slam. If the fielders had played their positions better (mostly I'm thinking of Ellis), we might not have gotten bombed that bad.

Plus, we kept on blwoing opportuniites against Lackey. Dude isn't THAT good of a pitcher.

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156. "that's true"
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those errors did kill us.

  

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157. "RE: The bandwagon stopped for gas last night vs the Angels lol"
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>We get back on the road tonight with Barry driving

Barry didn't have his best stuff but he battled. That's what the great ones do. Any way, that was a hard fought win last night. I'm looking for the A's to get the bats going today. I see a fairly high scoring game in the rubber match. 8-6 or something like that.

  

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158. "I can see that"
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Hopefully Blanton will be sharp, but the Angels are good hitting team. I think we pitched Vlad well last night (high and inside), but you just can't keep that guy down for long. The A's bats do need to stop sleeping. I mean, come on now, this is Paul Byrd.

Regardless, I'm not sweating the outcome either way. If we win, it's good to build a 1 game lead and go on and play 9 more games at home, six of them against the free-falling Orioles and the Royals. If we lose, we're only 1 game behind with those 9 games at home. Meanwhile, next week the Angels take on the Blue Jays and boston. I like the chances of stretching the lead no matter what happens today.

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159. "YEAH BOYEE-BOYEE!!!"
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Last night's game was great! I agree that Zito did not have his best stuff last night, but he was able to keep us in the game. Then the bullpen was able to finish it off, although Street did have me worried for a second. Our bullpen is the deepest I've seen it in years. I haven't been this confident in our relievers in a long time. I'm also really impressed by the way our bench players have stepped up. While filling in for Hatteberg and Kotsay, Melhuse and Payton had some huge hits. Let's keep it rolling today!

LET'S GO OAK-LAND!!!

  

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160. "Mellhuse is coming through, but I'd feel a little better with"
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Kotsay and Hatteberg healthy. I heard they might DH Kotsay today, which is a good start.

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161. "It was nice to see a big crowd last night"
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Around 45,000 is nice for a tuesday night with no ticket ticket specials. I heard the place was really buzzing last night with a playoff feel. Were any of you guys there?

  

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162. "Had a ticket, but I had to give it up"
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I had agreed to work on something with a friend of mine weeks ago and forgot my dad and I had tickets to the game. So both my parents went instead. I made $40 for the two hours of work, but I'd rather have gone to the game.

I am going on Monday. I wanted to catch the Saturday Dennis Eckerley game, but I couldn't get it together to buy a ticket. That sounds like it's going to be REAL cool.

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163. "I'm going Sunday"
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should be a nice crowd

  

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164. "I went on Tuesday night..."
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but I wasn't able to go last night. I wish I would have. The coliseum was jumping! You could feel the crowd's energy through the television. I nearly called in sick to go to today's game, but I thought better of it.

  

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165. "Bobby Kielty"
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I just want to go on record and say I'm sick of this dude. He's a butcher in the outfield and doesn't impress me at the plate either (dude just grounded into a double play to kill an inning as I type this) We have some nice young outfielders down here in Sacramento that I'd rather see up. Anyone know what dude's contract status is for 06? I can't take another year of this Ronald McDonald looking clown.

  

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167. "He'll be arb-2 I believe"
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.275/.368/.400 is pretty decent, and he kills lefties for .336/.416/.491.

He only makes like 800,000 now and would be a bargain at twice that price, which is probably around what he'll end up costing after arbitration.

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168. "dude just grounded into a force out... AGAIN"
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If it's not force it's a double play

Bobby "Ralley Killer" Kielty strikes again

  

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184. "C'mon man, dude dressed up as Ronald McDonald. RONALD MCDONALD."
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That's gotta count for something. I mean yeah, he can be brutal in the outfield, and he's not clutch at the plate, but he's a great clubhouse presence. He also bounced back quite well after starting the season 0 for 20.

He's cheap and will stay cheap. Might as well keep him around as a fourth OF or something, if for no reason than he kills lefties.

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166. "Lead off hitter on in 4 of the first 5 innings"
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And we can't push a run across.

Both teams have left 7 on in 5 innings.

So much for my call of a high scoring game.

  

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169. "Chavey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
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Huge!

  

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170. "RE: Chavey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
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That was clutch!

  

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171. "What rocks is he did it off of Donnelley"
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The most obnoxious dweeb on the Angels. Time to deliver in the bottom of the ninth now.

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172. "A walk off home run..."
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would be a beautiful. I want to see Kendall go deep for his first bomb of the year.

  

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173. "right now a SAC would be nice"
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Let's get Ellis in scoring position

  

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174. "That hurts"
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Kotsey gets the hit but Kendall couldn't move Ellis

Now here comes K-Rod

What a great way to finish up this series

  

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176. "1st Place is all ours!!!"
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YES!!!!

  

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175. "What happened?"
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I left for a few minutes, came back I see the game is over. I know the A's won 5-4 but can't get any info.

  

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177. "RE: What happened?"
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i was following the game on yahoo so i don't have all the details, but my friend just IMed and had this to say:

"the catcher threw the ball back to the pitcher and the pitcher dropped the ball behind him, he was pissed about the call of the pitch so he took his time getting the ball, kendall saw him laggin and ran home and scored, bonehead play."

  

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178. "No Shit!"
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Wow!

Winning games like this is really making me feel like this is our year.

They really weren't sharp this whole series but scrapped out two wins. Just when I think they can't impress me more they go and do this. MAN!

  

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179. "A win is a win is a win is a win"
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No matter how we got.

I think they officially scored the play as "defensive indifference." Which I guess makes sense, because from what I gather, Kendall just ran home and K-Rod didn't even bother trying to stop him. I guess I gotta watch the highlights when I get home.

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180. "How many series have we won in row?"
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I can't even remember the last time the A's lost a series.

  

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181. "The last we lost was against Toronto in Toronto"
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Don't know how many in a row that is. But I think we've won 16 out 17 or 17 out of 18 series at this point.

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182. "24-13 vs the West"
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While the Angels are only 18-16

Those are the numbers I'm the most juiced about

That looks very good seeing as we play a lot of games VS our own division down the stretch

  

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185. "August 12-14 vs the Twins"
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How do y'all see this one?

I'm saying we take two of three.

I just see the Twins putting up a good fight. Their season is pretty much over if they get swept here.

  

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186. "Two out of three sounds about right"
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If we was lose one, it will either be tonight or Saturday.

Maybe it's just annecdotal, but over the past few years, we never seem to have good luck at fireworks games unless Mulder was pitching. But Haren seems like he's on fire, so we could scratch it out.

I'd love for them to win tomorrow on Dennis Eckersley day, but it is Saarloos pitching, and it's been a while since he's taken the mound. If the Twins lose tonight, I can see them getting really frustrated and taking it out on Saarloos.

I figure we got Sunday. No way Harden lays two eggs in succession.

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187. "Co-Sign"
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I think we'll win the series, but it'll be tough. The Twins always seem to play us tight. They're like a Midwest version of the A's. I think tonight will be the closet of the three games with Santana going against Haren. I'm expecting a low scoring affair that will probably be decided by the bullpen.

  

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188. "Nah man, it'll be a sweep"
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Objective predictions are for non-bandwagon posts. You KNOW you don't expect them to lose any of these. Be honest about it.

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189. "RE: Nah man, it'll be a sweep"
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If Santana wasn't pitching I'd agree with you. I mean, they beat dude once already and he just doesn't lose after the all star break.

Now if we win tonight, break out the brooms.

  

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190. "Co-sign"
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Anyway, I KNOW they're sweeping both the ORioles and the Royals. This series will just be a bit tougher.

But I'll make a bold prediction: by the end of next week, they'll be at least five up on the Angels.

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191. "WOW"
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>But I'll make a bold prediction: by the end of next week,
>they'll be at least five up on the Angels.

Yeah that's pretty bold. Hope you're right. I would like to see the lead over the second place wild card team to grow to about 6 or 7 though.

  

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192. "from athleticsnation.com"
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Here's some fast facts to chew over:

The A's have won 12 straight series at home now. The last loss coming against the Yankees on May 13-15.

The A's are now a season-high 18 games over .500.

The A's are 13-1 in one run games at home compared to 6-12 in one-run games on the road, but they've won five of their last six one-run decisions on the road.

The A's have now tied the best 48-game stretch ever in Oakland history at 39-9. They did it three different times in 2001.

In general, the team has won six of the last seven, 12 of the last 14, 19 of the last 22 and 25 of the last 30.

The A's have now won 16 of the last 17 series and lost just one series since June 10 (Toronto).

  

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193. "Can I get a pass?"
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Lifetime A's fan here

I don't come to the sports board much but if someone could punch my bandwagon pass, I would appreciate it

GO A's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  

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194. "Pass punched, at least for my part"
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It will have to get cosigned by OldPro, who of course started this thread.

Glad to have you on board and enjoy the ride. I think soon the time will come when applications for a late pass will no longer be accepted.

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195. "hood's ok is enough"
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He's held this thread down as much as I have

But I agree, it's about time to close to doors and take this baby up to freeway speeds

Any way, welcome aboard. Now buckle up cause it's going to be a wild ride the rest of the way.

  

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196. "Welcome aboard!"
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I'm right there with you. I just turned in my late pass about a week ago.

Go A's!!!

  

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197. "up ^^^"
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We can't let this shit drop to page 3. Bad Karma

Any way, today is the rubber match in the Twin series. I feel pretty good about taking this one.

A side note. I was at the River Cat (A's triple A team) game last night. Something hella funny happened in the first inning. The River Cats scored a run in the first inning on the exact same play the A's beat the Angels with Thursday. Throw back to the pitcher who missed the ball. That shit had the crowd buzzin lol.

As for the game, Charles Thomas came up big with a two out triple in the 8th to get the Cats even. I left in the 9th (I'm heading to the A's game today and didn't want to be out too late) but the cats won on a homer in the 13th.

Well, I'm off to the game now.

Let's go Oakland

  

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198. "Had to happen sometime..."
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After winning 11 straight series in a row, we drop one. Bah! This sucks. But with some better hitting today, we could have taken it. It's a shame to waste a Harden start of that caliber.

I can understand getting beaten by Santana on Friday, but it kind of stunk because Harren pitched so well.

Anyway, the Angels/Mariners are now tied, so let's hope the Mariners can break on through. And we will be able to kick some ass this coming week against the ORioles and Royals. If the hitting wakes up again, I think we can take five or even all six.

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199. "Our bats are dead right now"
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But with the pitching we are getting we're staying in these games. I've been saying for some time now Crosby should be moved out of the 3 hole. I really think he's pressing and moving him down might help take some of that pressure off. Hopefully, we'll get the O on track against the O's tonight.

  

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200. "Man, I just started having May flashbacks"
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I was at this game, and I will say that the Orioles half of the seventh inning was easily in the Top 10 most miserable experiences I've had at the ballpark. Like Dave Stewart giving up nine runs in one inning miserable.

I knew we were going to blow it as soon as Zito hit Lopez on 0-2. Then he trips over himself on that damn Sosa "single," then he walks the next guy on four pitches. And then of course, Crosy throws away a tailor-made double-play ball. It was like the inning of the mentally-handicapped. The only ball that was hit hard that inning was the lead-off double. It was just a travesty.

Well we better start shaping up soon. This week is the part of the schedule where we're supposed to make hay. I don't think we're playing two easy teams in row for the rest of the seasom. Certainly not in September.

BTW, they were playing this guy Watson in RF because Swisher was on bereavment leave. OldPro, you're up in Sacto: what's this guy's deal? He hit one ball pretty hard. Don't know much else about him.

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204. "Watson has a stick"
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He is far and away the best hitter down here. That said, I would have liked to see Freddie Bynum be the one brought up. The fact Freddie can play infield as well and has speed, makes him a player the A's could get more use out of at this point. But make no mistake, Watson can play.

  

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206. "I know what you mean."
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That 7th inning was painful to watch. We couldn't do anything right.

  

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201. "*watches people get off one at a time*"
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202. "It ain't over motherfucka"
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Lot of baseball yet to play. Like seven weeks worth. We'll be around. Keep checking your rear-view mirror.

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203. "Dude you just lost any credibility you may have had"
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You haven't been any where to be found in this thread until the A's lose 2 (TWO MIND YOU) games in a row. Either stay in here and take your medicine when shit isn't going your way or stay the fuck out. But then again, I don't know what else to expect from a So Cal fan. This is just y'alls nature.

  

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205. "I will always fly the green & gold"
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I damn sure won't hide because my boys lost a few games. If this team didn't panic in May, they aren't going to panic over little slump like this

  

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208. "Couldn't have said it better myself"
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Thought about screaming on dude last night, but I was way to tired from that game.

Anyway, I find it humorous that Angels fans get all giddy when we drop TWO games in a row. Bear in mind this is the first time in damn near two months we've dropped two games in a row. Basically, we're two games back of where we were at last last week. The A's have already made up 6 games in 2 weeks this season, what makes you think that can't do two in a week?

So Cal fans, I swear.

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209. "there was no need for me to be in this post"
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i just decided to let you guys have your fun and get all excited.
i find it amusing.

so you guys can continue as you were...

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207. "oh hell nah!"
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we riding this motherfucka out! we still control our destiny in the wildcard and are only 2 behind the angels in the west. the season is far from over.

  

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210. "either the offense has come back to earth"
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or it's in a cold streak. hopefully it's the latter. but as long as our pitching's straight, i feel pretty confident (even though it looks like a second straight loss to baltimore).

  

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211. "I think it's time to swap Payton and Crosby in the batting order"
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He's slumped long enough. Payton exudes confidence, Crosby looks lost up there. Take the pressure away from the young one until he figures it out again.

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212. "While I agree Payton batting third isn't a bad idea..."
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Crosby was coming out of the slump before tonight. Last night he hit the ball a ton in that first inning. Got another hit as well, I believe.

Anyway, it just sucks to get jobbed by the umps. Lousy fucking call.

Not time to panic. We start dropping games to the Royals, then I'll start to worry.

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213. "The Umps killed us..."
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last night. The play @ 1st base completely changed the momentum of the game, but what can you do. Last week, we were getting all the breaks. This week, we're getting none.

We're hitting a little bump in our season, but we still have plenty of games to play. We hold the edge in the wildcard and we're still only 2 games back in the west. I'm glad that the Angels and Yanks both lost last night, so we didn't lose any ground.

OldPro also mentioned that Crosby should be moved out of the three slot. It sounds like a good idea to me. But instead of moving Payton to the three spot, I'd like to put Chavey there. Then move Hatteberg to hit clean followed by Payton or Johnson. I think that would give Chavey more opportunities to drive in runs.

  

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214. "First off I want to say, we're going to be alright"
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So this line up talk shouldn't be taken as panic. I was expecting a bad run like this a couple weeks back. It just came later than I expected. We'll be healthy by the end of the homestand.

That said, I have wanted to see a line up change for some time now. This is what I would like (vs right handers any way)


Ellis
Kotsay
Johnson
Chavez
Payton
Hatteberg
Crosby
Swisher
Kendall


Ellis has to be moved up in the order. You can't have a dude hitting 300 hitting 9th while two guys below 270 are 1 and 2. This is no knock on Kendall. But we need our lead off hitter on base more often. Kendall is an ideal 9 hitter for the AL (the way he's hitting right now). I guy that can get on base without clogging up the basepath for the top of the order. If he gets his average back up to where it usually is, then move him back to the one or two hole. Johnson needs to be moved into the 3 hole. I'm a firm believer your best hitter should hit 3rd. Is there anyone out there who doesn't think he's our best hitter? Moving him up two spots will get him another 15-20 ABs the rest of this year.

But any way you cut this, Crosby is the key. Do you realize, Ellis has driven in one more run (31) than has Crosby (30) in about the same number of ABs? When your 9 hitter is driving in more runs that your 3 hitter, it's time for a change.




  

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215. "One thing about moving Kendall..."
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Yeah, he's hitting around .270, but that's mostly because he started off hitting so crummy. As of a few weeks ago, he was hitting over .300 in the lead-off spot. Maybe things have evened out since, I honestly don't know.

That said, Ellis leading off isn't a bad idea. If memory serves, he was the A's lead-off hitter in 2001 after he finally got the nod as starting second-basemen and Jeremy Giambi got traded away. I can't remember if he finished the year at lead-off or not.

The rest of the projected line-up looks pretty good. Johnson needs to start hitting for a little more power to make it crank.

I do agree by the end of the homestand we'll be fine. We are really overdue for a minor bump like this. As long as we can regain some of the momentum, we'll be more than fine.

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216. "Let's hope the Royals win today"
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I don't want them coming with this losing streak. The odds are, something has to go their way sooner or later.

  

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217. "RE: Let's hope the Royals win today"
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I agree. I don't want to Royals to come into town with their losing streak intact. It's always scary to play a team like that. They have to win sooner or later. I really don't want that win to come against the A's.

  

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219. "I concur"
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A team with that type of losing streak has gotta win sometime. Even with a team with as little discernable talent as the Royals. And I refuse to see them celebrate in the Colleseum.

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218. "Ellis has been on a tear..."
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but I don't know about moving Kendall out of the lead off spot. He seems to thrive in that position. He really struggled when Macha had him in other spots in the line up. He has a certain comfort zone when he bats at the top of the order. His average has increased since Macha moved him to lead off and Kotsay to bat 2nd.

  

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224. "2-run home run?!?! co-sign! n/m"
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220. "This is getting ugly"
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No hits through 4 vs the O's

Man, we really need the sticks to wake up soon.

  

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221. "Who the fuck is Dubose?"
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This is getting real ugly.

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222. "RE: Who the fuck is Dubose?"
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A guy with an ERA over 27, that's who.

*edit*

At least we finally got a hit (Ellis singles with two outs in the 5th)

  

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223. "Damn!"
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We've dug a hole for ourselves again. It's going to take a late rally to get back in this game. This DuBose cat is killing us!

  

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225. "Here we go again"
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We dig a hole and then start to dig out late. 5-2 after the payton homer. 2 on and no outs. Hopefully we didn't start too late... again

  

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226. "Alright"
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The score is 5-3. We've made up a little ground. We have 6 outs to score 2 runs.

LETS GO OAK-LAND!!!

  

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227. "Why is Kielty hitting in front of Johnson?"
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A line up change is a must at this point.

Look at where the production came from today. The 6,7 and 8 hole (Johnson, Payton and Ellis)

A 3-4-5 of Johnson, Chavez and Payton sounds pretty good right about now.

  

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228. "because the starter was a lefty, and kielty's splits on"
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lefties are very good. he bats higher against lefties than against righties.

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230. "Kielty hasn't been hitting righties or lefties lately"
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Dropping Johnson was just dumb if you ask me.

  

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229. "Weekend Series vs KC"
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Well it's come to this. It looks like the Royals are coming to town with their losing streak in place (They are down 8-0 as I post this)

I'm usually the one that says 2 of 3 is fine. But damn it, we need to sweep this shit!

Swish will be back too. We need a shot in the arm right now.

  

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231. "Let's add to their misery and end ours"
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There's nothing to break a hitting slump like the Royals pitching. Let's burn these som'mamabitches.

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232. "I hope we do."
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We need to get the offense going!

  

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233. "RE: Weekend Series vs KC"
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up^ for the weekend

Dropping to page 3 is unacceptable

  

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234. "Thank God for the Royals"
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Nothing like the worst team in baseball to snap you out of a losing streak. Buy hey, a win doesn't count anymore if it's against the Yankees or something. And with the Red Sox Forest Gumping their way into a win, we're just a game and a half back.

A couple of more wins, and we'll be looking better and better.

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235. "KC gave us our 20th straight win"
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it's only right they save themselves from their historic losing streak off us.

and honestly, i think Saturday's game will trigger the righting of the ship. it's still all good. (c) biggie

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236. "Well, this sucks. But I'm nowhere near giving up"
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Going 1-5 against the Orioles and the Royals = not a good look. Especially when he could have gained some ground by winning both games, especially yesterday's.

Mostly we need to hit. And soon. This week is supposed to be the last "easy" week, with Detroit and Baltimore again. Then it's the Yanks, the Twins, the Indians, and division teams for the rest of the season. So it's time to kick start this offense and get steam-rolled.

I'm still firmly on the bandwagon. And I know the rest of y'all are too.

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237. "That was terrible"
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How can we lose 2 of 3 to the Royals?!?!? Luckily, we're still atop of the AL wild card, but now we have to fend off the Yanks AND the Tribe. Hopefully, we can get back on track this week. This upcoming road trip is going to be big, especially since we wrap it up in Anaheim. Let's get back on track on the road.

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238. "Thanks for holding down the front"
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I was away this weekend and didn't have a chance to post. I was worried I'd see this thread on page 4 or 5 but y'all manned up. Props.

Any way, as funny as this might sound I'm not worried. Concerned yes but not worried. See, our pitching has still been good. Everyone was expecting the young pitchers to be our undoing down the stretch but they are still solid. We can all see the problem is with the offense. But hitting is streaky by nature. And the fact we have a team that scores runs by having 4 or 5 guys carry the load any given game instead of 2 or 3 big guns game in game out, gives me hope. Everyone can't stay in a slump. It's just a freak thing where 7 or 8 guys are all struggling at once. We just need 3 or 4 of them to break out of it and get back on track. I think we'll see that happen starting in Detroit.

  

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239. "ha"
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thats sad, i thought we were struggling with our slumping bullpen, but at least we didnt lose 2 of 3 to the royals...

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240. "It's ok, we know you can't help yourself"
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Front-running is an affliction that many So Cal fans are born with.

There is treatment for this you know. Seek help before it's not too late. Moving out of Southern Cal is a start.

  

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241. "ha"
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i like the clippers, no front running here.

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242. "And I bet you drop in and out of basketball posts too"
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depending on how they are doing

dude bottom line, you can't drop in here and gloat only when the A's have a rough stretch and be taken seriously. You're like this kid I knew in 10th grade. Big ass cowboy fan that talked shit all year long. Then when Montana hits Clark in the famous catch game, dude stayed home from school sick for a week.

  

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243. "LOL! That's funniest shit I've heard in a week!"
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>You're like this kid I knew in 10th grade. Big ass cowboy fan that
>talked shit all year long. Then when Montana hits Clark in the
>famous catch game, dude stayed home from school sick for a
>week.

Dude, you just made my day with that one.

And yeah, even after this wretched 2-7 stretch for the A's, we only lost three and a half games of ground to the Angels. Provided we man up for the first week of the road stretch, we can be right back in first by taking the Angels in Anaheim. Like we did in July.

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244. "why cant i?"
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i like letting you guys have your fun
but sometimes i just have to come in here to point and laugh
get over it.

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245. "It'd be corny if we did the same thing to you"
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Say you started an Angels support post, and we only dropped on when you team was taking an L (which is fiarly often these days), what would you think?

You'd hold even some amount of wait if you came in a talked smack when the A's were winning. But you didn't. You came in once during the beginning to "kick the wheel off the bandwagon" and didn't return until recently. So either cnsistently contribute, ESPECIALLY if the A's turn things around, or be prepared not to be taken seriously.

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246. "Top 10 reasons why A's fans are happy they're not Angel fans"
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10 We never had little halos on our hats

9 We got more out of Carney than they got out of Reggie

8 Our history has more championships than color schemes

7 Mount Davis doesn't shoot water

6 No mouse ears on fans

5 We're not the San Francisco A's of Oakland

4 We had Hammer, they had Gene Auntry

3 Eck didn't off himself after the Gibson home run

2 We own more hardware than our cross town rival

1 Ricky Henderson, Catfish Hunter, Mark McGwire, Reggie Jackson, Vida Blue, Dennis Eckersley, Rollie Fingers, Joe Rudi, Jason Giambi, Terry Steinbach, Bobby Crosby, Barry Zito, Campy Campaneris, Dave Stewart, Billy North, Sal Bando, Ray Fosse, Bob Welch, Ken Holtzman, Dwayne Murphy, Mark Mulder, Jose Canseco, Rick Monday, Gene Tenace, Mike Norris, Carney Lansford, Tony Armas, Blue Moon Odom, Mike Bordick, Tim Hudson, Miguel Tejada, Walt Weiss, Dave Henderson, Eric Chavez, Tony La Russa and Dick Williams... Good night now!

  

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248. "RE: Top 10 reasons why A's fans are happy they're not Angel fans"
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>3 Eck didn't off himself after the Gibson home run


This is classless. Seriously.

Edit: actually, there isn't time left to edit. the embarassing ridicule of an awful tragedy stays, apparently.

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249. "yeah, that wasnt funny"
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250. "Oh get over yourself"
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Not like dude died yesterday or he was your daddy

Your ass isn't offended so stop playing the role

  

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252. "And for the record"
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I didn't write that

I took it from a fan site

  

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254. "I'm offended"
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Whether or not you wrote it, regardless of when it happened, you're making fun of somebody committing suicide.

There's not really any way to defend that.

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255. "Even if you REALLY are offended"
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It being said or not said isn't going to change anything

People die every day. It's part of life man. I'm not defending it on the basis of it being funny or not (it actually made me winch a little too when I first read it) but people make jokes about death all the time. It just kills me (no pun) how people act like they are personally hurt by shit like this.

  

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265. "im not even an angels fan,but that was classless"
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by whoever came up with number 3.




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247. "A's at Tigers"
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I'm calling this right now............

S W E E P

  

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251. "Let's get this sweep going indeed"
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We need to start going ground again. And we got some strong pitching coming. And hopefully the Orioles will remain hot lng enough to take out the Angels until we can take them down a few notches and get some revenga for last week.

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253. "This road trip is.."
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HUUUUUUUUUUUUGE!!!! we're knotted with the indians and the yankees for the al wildcard. hopefully, this trip to detroit will wake up our bats. a sweep would be beautiful.


LET'S GO OAK-LAND!!!

  

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258. "Spell that again"
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>I'm calling this right now............
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>S W E E P

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260. "RE: Spell that again"
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hell at this point I'm just looking for a W I N

The offense is worse than bad right now

It will turn around but the question is, how big a hole are we going to dig ourselves into before it does. Right now, I just don't know the answer to that.

  

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256. "^"
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261. "RE: ^"
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Thanks for your help, be we have been doing just fine keeping this thread alive.

Unlike So Cal fans, we show up during bad times.

  

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262. "you're welcome"
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we're doing bad too
you guys are just doing worse

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257. "*awaits the next streak*"
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*goes back to reading Moneyball*

  

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259. "Is a f@#$ing hit too much to ask for?"
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*grumbles* We'll snap out of this dammit. *grumbles again.*

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263. "For Real!"
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Last night's game was typical of our losing streak. The pitching was decent, but we could not get any hits. It seems like the chemistry is so tight on this team that once one guy gets into a slump, they all slump. If one guy gets his bat going, they all get their bats going. Macha needs to make an adjustment.

It also hurt to see Pena do us like that. Of course, he was the guy that had to hit two bombs against us.

  

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264. "just awful"
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it's like the A's and whitesox are the same team, good pitching and pathetic hitting.

  

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266. "Ellis led off the game with a solo shot..."
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That's a good start for a team that has been struggling at the plate.

  

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267. "Melhuse came through with a double to score Payton."
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Oakland 2, Detroit 0

I hope this is the game that breaks us out of the slump. So far, it's looking good.

  

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268. "Man, tonight's just not Bonderman's night"
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And I'm lovin it! This is the second time in a row we've roughed him up, which is good, because we used to not be able to do much against him before. Fourth inning, 4-0, two on base, no outs. Let's do this!

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269. "Nothing like a 9-2 win to ease the tension a bit"
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The bats showed up last night, which is good. We hit four HRs, which is VERY good. Though I always get pleasure when the A's shell Bonderman, I sincerely hope he isn't badly hurt.

Got an early one today. Let's finish it off early and get some sweep revenge against the Orioles, who haven't won since they played in Oakland.

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270. "YES!"
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That game was exactly what we needed. I hope last night's game is a sign that the offensive slump is finally over.

We have Zito going today. I think he'll be come through for us.

Go A's!!!

  

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271. "Damn I Forgot we had an early game today!"
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Just checked the score........ 8-0!

Looks like the bats finally woke up. Now let's hope we can carry this through the weekend.

  

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272. "See, this is what we should have done to the Royals and Orioles"
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It's 9-0 in the 5th inning. We've scored in all five innings this far.

Now this is what we should have done to KC and Baltimore. They've got even worse pitching than these guys. Yet score what, 11 runs total last week, if that?

Lets keep pouring it on today. Then carry that momentum into Baltimore and then Anaheim.

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273. "Nice couple of wins but..........."
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The only thing that's going to make me feel better is taking 3 of 4 from the O's and then winning the Angel series. We can't be trailing the Angels, Indians and Yankees going into that big weekend series vs NY.
If we can just score 4 or 5 runs a game, we'll be fine. But lately that hasn't been nearly as easy at it sounds. This next week and a half is going to tell us a lot.

  

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274. "It feels good to finally win a series."
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Let's carry this momentum with us to Baltimore and keep the bats hot.

Your exactly right, OldPro. This next week and a half is going to be crucial. We need to play some good ball and win these next two series. I don't see the Indians or Yankees falling off anytime soon.

  

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275. "I can maybe see the Indians falling off"
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Maybe not the pitching, but the hitting. Hafner is hot as hell, but he stunk at the beginning of the season. Victor Martinez was awful for most of the season (though he's also hot as hell now). They're relying on guys like Belliard, who are good but not great. A team like that can get cooled down, espcially if he start to hit and they start playing divison rivals. The White Sox will bounce back and the Twins are good spoilers.

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276. "Wildcard or not, let's just get in the playoffs"
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But for some reason I still think it's more likely we win the West than get the WC. The Angels are a team than can go cold at any time. They depend so much on Vlad and a few other cats. All it takes is a few of their big guns to go cold (which has happened this season already) and they could be done. If the A's win the series next week, I think that's the sign the division is ours. But either way, I just want to be in the hunt going into the last week.

  

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277. "The problem with dealing with the Angels is Vlad"
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Dude should really be MVP. He carries the offense. Especially with Garrett Anderson injured and Steve Finley doing nothing. When we gaining all that ground, he was in his rare slump. Now he's hot again, so we gotta hope the bullpen and the pitchers not named Colon will continue to be shaky.

I do think the key to the play-offs is winning the West. Too many variables to deal with otherwise.

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278. "A's at O's"
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I have a sick feeling in my stomach about this series. I know it's just because of the way the A's offense went MIA in the last series with them but I can't help but be worried. We have to get a split or we have trouble. Then again, when I worry we seem to play better lol

  

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279. "The only real reason to worry is no Harden"
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We can't have him injured. Not for this stretch. Kennedy's been pitching strong, but he's not the solution. Is Cruz still pitching well in Sacto?

As for the bats, well Camden is a hitters park. And hopefuuly everyone's coming out of their slump now. And Baltimore's pitching is worse than the Orioles.

Let's aim for 3 out 4 of four. We're what, 2 and a half out of first? We need to make up a game or two before we hit Anaheim.

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280. "I saw Cruz pitch a couple weeks ago"
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He was lights out vs Fresno. He took a two hit shutout into the 7th inning before giving up two runs on a couple extra base hits. I was sitting pretty close to home plate and got a good look at him. His stuff can be nasty but he tends to have control issues from time to time. I don't know what he's done since that game though.

  

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281. "So far so good"
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Winning the first game vs the O's was nice. We really need one of these next two games (Sat or Sun) We'll worry about Monday when that gets here. Yankees losing to KC last time I checked. If we can just stay even in the wild card coming out of the weekend I'll be very happy.

  

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282. "Four in a row."
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So we've guraunteed a split serious. Always good. And we're up to a half a game behind the Angels. Even better. Still tied with the Yankees for the wild card. Oh well. The Royals stink. We at last got a game on Cleveland.

What's best about this stretch is the we'venearrly gained back all the ground we lost during that atrocious 9 game stretch. Especially losing five of six last week. So if we gain one more game against the Angels, life would be very good. If nothing else, a win on Monday is crucial. We got make things as close as possible before we cruise into Anaheim. I'm decently optomistic.

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283. "lucky bastards"
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284. "Skill, it's skill"
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Too bad y'all can't handle the powerhouse that is the Devil Rays.

Doug Waechte. Now that's gangsta.

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285. "worst case scenario"
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we're tied for 1st for tuesday's series. should be another good one.

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286. "That's what I'm saying. But I think we've got it tomorrow"
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We're just looking real good right now. The O's offense is just dead, and we're on a hot streak once again. That seventh inning was just so lovely. It erased the memories of that O's game almost two weeks ago where the same thing happened to us.

I'm a little worried about Crosby and Kotsay, but this Bynum guy is supposed to be pretty good. This coming week go a long way to shaping how the Wild Card/West looks, with us playing six against the Angels and then the Yanks. It's time to really take control.

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287. "unless there are sweeps in either series, i don't think much"
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is resolved. Still a long ass month of work to do.

But I liked what the game recap read. Really shows that they acknowledge that this won't be an easy process.

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The Oakland Athletics had just moved into first place in the AL West, and the reaction in the clubhouse was a collective yawn.

"It's not important at all. It's really insignificant," third baseman Eric Chavez said Sunday after Oakland rolled to its fifth straight victory, a 10-3 rout of the Baltimore Orioles.

Dan Haren pitched seven innings of three-hit ball, and the Athletics hit three home runs in reaching double figures in scoring for a second straight game.

That, more than the fact that Oakland moved ahead of the Los Angeles Angels in the standings, was what mattered most to the charging A's.

"Just a week ago we couldn't find a hit," said Chavez, referring to a stretch in which Oakland lost seven of eight, including three straight to Baltimore. "Hitting is really going to dictate how well we do the next month."



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288. "Freddie Bynum"
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I've been saying for months now this cat needs to be in the majors. He adds tons of speed to the team as well as an ability to play middle infield or outfield. He has a little pop in his bat too. He reminds me a lot of a young Kenny Lofton offensively. But if nothing else, we have a real stolen base threat if we need to pinch run in a tight game. This was a great call up.

  

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289. "Yeah, I remember you bigging him up earlier"
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See, I don't see why it took so damn long to send Ginter's ass down to Triple A. He was a completely useless acquisition. I can't even remember the last time he had an AB, even when Chavez was out earlier this week with his newborn son.

The team could really use some speed on the basepaths. And even though we'll probably never be a SB team again, it's always good to have that option. How's dude's defense?

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294. "Bynum's D"
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Right now I'd have to say he's a better infielder than outfielder. I'd say he's a slightly above average SS and right about average in the OF. Down here in Sacramento, they play Thomas in CF most of the time and Bynum in LF (When he's not playing SS) But I see Freddie as more of a CF in the long run. It's just a matter of getting him more innings in the OF.

One other thing, out of the 8 River Cat games I've been to this year, Bynum has tripled in 4 of them. I'm sure that is playing big a part in my opinion of the cat. But I do think he could be our next big rookie in 2006.

  

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290. "What a difference..."
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a weekend makes! We're back on top of the AL West with 1 game to go against Baltimore before we head to Anaheim. Let's get the brooms ready.

I hope the injuries to Crosby and Kotsay aren't serious. It's a shame to see Crosby get hurt. He was really starting to get his swing back.

I'm still amazed by Mark Ellis. This dude has been a beast. He's been hitting the ball really well. It's good to see that he has fully recoved from last year's injury.

  

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291. "Ellis deserves a Gold Glove"
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People are talking big about him being Comeback Player of the Year, but I think the fans vote for that award, and Ellis isn't known enough to win as a result. It will probably go to Giambi or something.

But dude is flashing major leather out there as well as hitting like a beast. And with Boone gone, he's got a serious chance. Hell, I could argue that Chavez, Crosby, Kotsay, and Ellis all deserve Golden Gloves.

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292. "Yeah I think you're right."
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Ellis definitely deserves to win Comeback Player of the Year, but it'll probably go to Giambi. Ellis is too far under the radar to get shine outside of the Bay. But A's fans know he's deserving.

That would be sick if all those dudes won Gold Gloves. Chavez is a lock, but it will be close for the other guys.

  

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293. "I think Kotsay has a chance..."
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...with Hunter being injured and all. I heard people talking about Orlando Hudson being a candidate for 2B along with Ellis. I don't know who else they could give it to at SS. Maybe Tejada. I can see that. It's a fucking travesty Jeter won that shit last year. He's barely a good fielder, much less a Golden Glove won. Yeah, I know, he dove in the stands, yadda, yadda, yadda; but he ain't so good at making the everyday plays.

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295. "Ellis"
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As I've been saying, the A's can't afford to keep hitting this dude 9th. It was nice to see him move up a little yesterday. But he needs to be the #1 or #2 hitter IMO.

  

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296. "They'll probably bat him first or second with Kotsay out"
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They'll probably keep him around 7th or so when he gets back. Macha's weird about the line-up. He's pretty much set with Kendall and Kotsay at #1 & #2, which in all fairness has worked pretty well. I do think they should switch Payton and Crosby, as you mentioned earlier.

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297. "*ahem*"
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>I do think they should switch Payton and
>Crosby, as you mentioned earlier.

http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=113148&mesg_id=113148&page=#126457

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298. "My bad, as YOU mentioned before earlier"
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Damn, there's just the four of us keeping this going strong. I should really be able to differenciate between all of y'all.

BTW, it's 2-0 in the fourth. On the strength of a Payton HR. We was batting third while Ellis is batting second.

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299. "The O's just took a 3-2 lead..."
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Saarloos is having a rough bottom of the 5th.

  

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300. "Falling apart or not, Macha pulled him too early"
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Three runs is bad, but not horrible. We need to save our bullpen, espcially with a solid week of games coming up, and maybe no Harden. Those arms need to be rested.

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301. "A's retake the lead on a 3 run HR by Johnson"
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We are starting to look a lot like the team of June and July

  

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302. "This A's team has been really good..."
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at answering a team's rally with a rally of their own. They're a resilient group.

  

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303. "Now we're tied 5-5"
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Everytime I say something positive something bad happens. I hadn't called for a sweep all year. When I finally do, we drop the first game vs the Tigers. Then when I say I'd just be happy to win one game, we go on a 5 game winning streak. I think I'm going to just be quiet for a while when it comes to predictions lol

  

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304. "How did Duchscherer get out of that inning?"
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He had runners on 1st and 3rd with nobody out. I was certain we were going to give up at least one run. That dude is good!

  

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305. "Swisher went yard in the top of the 12th."
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Let's hold onto this lead and take the next flight to John Wayne Airport.

  

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306. "DJ getting to third on a Byrnes error is just poetic justice"
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and a home run by swish... i like. too bad I can't watch this game.

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308. "Damn they broke that bitch open"
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5 in the 12th. And Ellis goes yard AGAIN

  

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309. "I didn't see the play, how did DJ make it to third?"
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Did Brynes try to throw it to second and just air-mail it? Or did he drop the ball in the OF and let it rool behind him?

I love how was just broke that sum-bitch wide open. It's damn near like the Royals series all over again, in terms of runs scored.

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310. "RE: I didn't see the play, how did DJ make it to third?"
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>Did Brynes try to throw it to second and just air-mail it? Or
>did he drop the ball in the OF and let it rool behind him?

the latter, i think. i was listening to the audio on mlb.com and i believe that's what they described.

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307. "RE: How did Duchscherer get out of that inning?"
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I didn't see it but here's what happened. They got a double play (6 to 3) Scutaro must have looked the runner at 3rd back before going one because the runner didn't score. Then he got Roberts to gound out to Ellis.

  

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311. "REVENGA!!!!!"
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Well, it's official: A's win and complete the sweep. How sweet it is. More than makes up for getting swept by the Orioles in Oakland. The A's once again broke out the proverbial tire iron and went to work with it. I'm not thrilled they had to use five relievers, but so it goes.

Now being a solid game in first, we're in good psychological position for the series against the Angels. If we can take 2 out of 3 again, we'll get to 2 ahead. Hell, if we lose the series 1-2, well still be tied. It's a shame we had that horrible week and a half stretch, or we could be in even better position. Like 4 games up now. and maybe have the best record in the AL. But I'm still feeling all right.

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312. "It doesn't look good"
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I'm not optimistic about either the Angel and Yankee series coming up. I just hope we can avoid being swept in both.

*see post 303*

  

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313. "LOL! n/m"
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314. "A's at Angels"
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Thoughts? I'm not saying shit lol

  

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315. "* types thoughts *"
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* thinks better of it, deletes everything *

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316. "I'm with y'all. It's better left unsaid"
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I'll holla when things pan out... however they do. Um, yeah.

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317. "I plead the...."
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Fizifth. (C) Dave Chappelle

  

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318. "What are the odds........"
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of seeing haj20 in here after an Angels loss?

  

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319. "After a loss? Oh, about 1-15,000"
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And that's being generous.

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when the weather is nice.

SoCal Fans = FAIR WEATHER FANS

  

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321. "On a semi-related note..."
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I might have a chance to catch the final game of the A's/Angels series. I'm going down to LA for the Labor Day weekend, and I've thought about taking a few days off of work to spend a little extra time down there. PArtly in an attempt to catch the Thursday game. Don't know if it's worth it, though. As entertaining I'd find the "waterfall," I don't know if I can deal with the Angels fans and the Rally Monkey.

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322. "GO"
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We went a couple years ago while we were down there for Disneyland. You would be surprised at how many A's fans you'll see. But if you can swing it, go man. I just got my tickets for Friday's Yankee game. Section 205. I was surprised I was able to get seats even that good at this point.

  

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323. "I'm going to try"
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Good to hear the A's fans represent down there.

Huh, that's weird you got Yankees tickets this late in the game. Those are usually the sure-fire sellers. I'm actually going to miss the Sunday Yanks game because of the LA trip. I hate going to the Yanks games anyway. They bring out all the damn "cool" fair-weather Yankees fans. Though the Boston fans are more obnoxious, at least most of them have been Red Soc fans for years. Most of these Yankee fans only jumped on the bad-wagon when the team started winning titles.

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324. "I'd definitely go. Just don't eat at the stadium's Carls Jr."
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I made that mistake two years ago. I went to the Angels/A's game and decided to get a Western Bacon Cheeseburger combo. Not only did that thing cost over $10, but it damn near killed me. It was so damn greasy that I had to leave the game by the 8th inning and ended up getting sick in the parking lot. But if there's a silver lining to the story, the A's ended up winning the game.

And OldPro's right, you'll definitely see a lot of A's fans down there. I ran into a bunch of them.

  

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325. "$10 and it made you sick? What part of the game is that?"
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And what's with charging $10 for a damn burger anyway? One of the things I like about Arte Moreno is that he was supposed to make stadium food cheaper to improve the teams fan friendliness. Though I guess two years ago he didn't techincally own the team, so I'll give him a pass for that.

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327. "Yeah man..."
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It was all bad. I still can't look @ a Western Bacon Cheeseburger the same way. I used to love those things too!

  

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326. "fuck it. put me on record"
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I think the A's will take the series.

I like to make it known that that I'm not now nor have I ever been a fairweather fan. If we lose, so what? No shame. Hell, I was reppin the A's when they were cellar dwellers.

But look at it this way. Those of us reppin the A's now aren't fighting to get on the bandwagon, we're fighting over the good seats. ;)


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328. "A's will win 4 of the next 6"
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Winning two of three against both the Angels and Yankees seems like it would be the most natural way to go about doing that. However, I wouldn't be surprised to see the A's lose two of three in LA and then come home to sweep the Yankees. The A's seem to hit bad pitching well and that's what the Yankees have right now. Bad pitching. The Angels on the other hand are due to have some big games with the bats.

  

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329. "*twiddles thumbs and hums loudly*"
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I still ain't saying shit and you can't make me.

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330. "I'm awaiting a haj20 appearance"
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*looks out the window to see if pigs are flying*

naw, doesn't look like he's coming today

  

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332. "* quietly hums "Back in the Saddle Again" * n/m"
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335. "Haj20's new name is Richard Foster"
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That's the kid I talked about that stayed home "sick" a week after the Cowboys lost to the 49ers in the 81 NFC Championship game. Better yet, I think I'll just call Haj "Dick" for short.

  

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344. "haha"
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its finals week, so i havent had a chance to watch either of the games
i wont get to see the game tomorrow either, but i'll show up
Santana is so inconsistent that you never know whats gonna happen,
hes either gonna shut out the A's or give up 10 runs in the 1st inning.

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350. "How convenient"
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That you "find the time" after an Angels win.

  

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351. "very"
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331. "A"L"L" aboard the "L" train"
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333. "So are you on board or not?"
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Come on, all the cools kids are doing it.

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334. "Dope is trippin"
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He's in every subject on this board posting this "L" shit. Some sorry ass rapper from what I can tell.

  

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336. "Yeah, I noticed that as soon as checked other posts"
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Someone must have put PCP in his breakfast cereal or something.

The Big L he's posting about is rapper from Harlem. Got killed about six years. It think Dope is trying to say everyone's taking a loss. Eh, whatever.

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337. "YES!!!"
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Winning the first game of the series was big. Now we have a two game lead in the West and we're guaranteed at least a tie of the division lead once we get back home.

Colon and Zito both pitched unreal games. I knew Zito would give up a late homer. I'm glad we were able to recover and get the win in extra innings.

How was Johnson's at bat in the 11th (or was it the 10th)? He was battling at the plate. We didn't score after he hit that double, but I still give him a lot of props. He's so damn composed for a rookie.

  

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338. "F@#k it, I gotta comment on the game."
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What a great game!!! We rock so incredibly hard. That Kielty HR was epic! Of course, I'd walked away from the TV screen when he hit it, and I ran back just in time to see it land in the stands.

Furthermore, Macha's got some seriously large stones (no homo). I'm sorry, I would have walked Vlad both of those times. Yes, I would have walked the bases loaded and put the winning run on second in the 12th. I don't care if he's 0 for 3, 0 for 4, or o for 7, it's Vlad Guerreo. However, things worked out, both times, so he's the genius and I'm the moron. Sometimes Macha infuriates me, other times he looks like the manager of the year. Last night was the latter.

Damn shame Zito couldn't get that win. We was just insane out there. But he made that one mistake. Blah. Johnson's at-bat was the stuff dreams are made up too. The guy's gonna become a serious ball-player.

And I know the A's would pull it out as soon as K-Rod started getting all hyped after striking out the final batter in the 11th. That stuff never bodes well.

So the pressure's off. By winning the first, there's no pressure to pitch Harden on Thursday. Give him the extra rest. And Blanton's been our best pitcher for the last month, so I hope he'll keep it up tonight.

I'm still not going to offer any predictions. And I'm going to stop gushing now.

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340. "See I have issues with this"
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>I'm sorry, I would have walked Vlad both of those
>times. Yes, I would have walked the bases loaded and put the
>winning run on second in the 12th. I don't care if he's 0 for
>3, 0 for 4, or o for 7, it's Vlad Guerreo.

Vlad is not Barry. Yeah he's a dangerous hitter but let's be real here. He's hitting a little over 300 with 29 home runs. Very good numbers yes, but not good enough to justify putting yourself on the doorstep of a bloop single loss. I'm just old school I guess. You don't put the winning run on and you damn sure don't move the winning run in scoring position. And I'd stick by that even with Barry. These managers out think themselves sometimes. Props to Macha for playing it "old school" last night

  

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341. "The problem is that Vlad can hit anything"
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Even when you try to pitch him carefully, he can still hit it. Very far. Remember that HR he hit off of Blanton? The pitch was at his ankles, and he still destroyed the ball.

Now the A's have figured out the way to pitch him (high and tight, occasionally mixing in low and tight), but slump or no slump, he's still dangerous as hell. I think during the last series they faced the Angels, Macha intentionally walked Vlad three times during one of the games, and it paid off each time. Given the choice of facing Vlad in a slump or Benji Molina, I'll take Molina.

I feel and respect the old school mentality. I don't think I'd advocate intentially walking any other AL player in those situations, but dude just makes me nervous as hell every time he comes to the plate.

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342. "RE: The problem is that Vlad can hit anything"
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Yeah he can hit anything but the fact is he's hitting a little over 300. Which means he's making an out 7 out of 10 times up. I feel you when you said he makes you nervous. But then again, I'm always a nervous wreck when I watch one of my teams play.

  

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339. "lol at yankees fans thinking new york is better than the As"
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343. "Everyone should send good vibes out to the Washington family"
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Ron Washington, A's third base coach, lives ain New Orleans. Fortunately, his entire family was able to get out of town before Hurricane Katrina hit. Unfortunatley, Wash and his extended family all lost their homes. According to the A' broadcast, Wash's home is now under 15-feet of water. He's not sure how long it will be before he can get into his home; it could be months. He's likely lost everything.

It's a darn shame to lose everything you own like that. But I'm glad his family is safe.

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345. "RE: Everyone should send good vibes out to the Washington family"
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co-sign

  

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346. "Damn!"
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That's sad. My thoughts & prayers definitely go out to Washington and his family.

  

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348. "no doubt"
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did you see that foul ball that almost took dude's head off last night?

Now, THAT would have been a tragedy on top of everything else.

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347. "Last night..."
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we had our opportunities but we couldn't capitalize. It's a shame we couldn't score more runs for Blanton. He pitched a really good game.

Even though Payton looked silly last night in the batter's box, that play he made @ 2nd base was dope. That was some nice hustle on his part.

It's disappointing that Crosby is going to the DL, but I think that Scutaro can hold down the SS position while he's out.

Kennedy vs. Santana today. I hope Kennedy continues to pitch well. If he can go six innings, I have faith in our bullpen to close it out. Let's add another game to our lead before he head home!

GO A's!!!

  

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349. "Scutaro"
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I know he will get the time at short with Crosby out but I'd like to see some of Freddie Bynum. I know he's a rookie just up in the bigs but I'm telling you he's a special player. I hope Macha doesn't forget that he got where he is right now due to the play of rookies. I'd like to see Freddie get a start in the Yankee series if not tonight.

  

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352. "Scutaro hasn't been lighting it up as of late"
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I think he's down to .246 or something. I figure him and Bynum will split playing time for a bit. Better to get the rookie some ABs to see if he can handle the pressure of September baseball that matters. Hell, the Yanks did it with Jeter about 10 years ago.

As long as they're not playing Ginter, I'll be happy.

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353. "Macha would be putting a lot of faith in Bynum"
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to have him play SS. But like you posted above, rookies got us where we're at now, so maybe it's worth a shot. Honestly, I don't know too much about Bynum except for what you mentioned before.

  

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354. "^"
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355. "You know, it's funny: even when the Angels win you manage to take a loss"
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So your "finals" cleared up just in time for you to talk smack... Riiiight. Just watch out ffor those powerhouse Devil Rays. They could spell trouble once again.

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356. "RE: You know, it's funny: even when the Angels win you manage to take a ..."
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I'm amazed this dude doesn't know how stupid he looks. I'm actually starting to enjoy watch this cat become the poster child for front running everywhere

As for the game, our offense has gone MIA again. That said, we're tied for first coming home. I don't think one A's fan wouldn't have taken that after the Royal's series.

  

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358. "I pay this cat no mind."
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He lingers around this thread because the Angel "fans" can't muster up enough people for their own thread.

  

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360. "thats true"
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363. "hahhaha"
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at least we can agree on something.

  

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359. "talking smack? whos talking smack?"
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i didnt say a thing
i just upped the post 'cause it was on page 2
i didnt watch the game so i cant say anything about how we played
i just wish Santana would step up like he did last night against the bad teams.
how can you beat the A's(twice), Yankees(twice), RedSox, White Sox, & Twins and then get rocked by the Mariners and the D-Rays.

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357. "Another tough loss..."
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but we're in good shape. We still have a share of the AL West lead and the top spot in the wildcard race.

  

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361. "Yankees at A's"
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Well I'm about to leave work in a few minutes so I have time to take care of a few things before heading to the O for tonight's game. I picked up tickets for Saturday as well so I'll be down there for the weekend with no internet access. I guess hood is still down in LA so I doubt he'll be posting this weekend. So that leaves 3 or 4 of y'all to keep this thread upped for the weekend. I know you cats will do your green and gold duty. With that, I'm out until Sunday. Peace and Go A's.

  

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362. "i expect we'll do fine tonight"
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leiter walks a shitload of batters, and the A's are one of the more patient teams in the league. if haren holds up, we should be fine.

i'm going to saturday's game, hopefully that'll be the game in which we clinch the series.

  

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364. "We'll be fine this weekend"
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We just gotta be a little more agressive with the bats, and we need to stop batting Scutaro second. Not a good move. Otheriwse, I ain't trippin.

I'm leaving for LA pretty soon, so I do have faith that the rest of y'all can hold this down. Go A's!!!!!

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365. "congratulations to Vlad on his 300th HR"
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and nice ass kicking you guys are putting on the Yanks
you guys are looking like the Angels.

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366. "as i was saying"
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http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=113148&mesg_id=113148&page=#134975

  

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367. "A's got done up again today"
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I'm like 1-5 this seaons on games I go to. I just need to stop going.

Oh, and we really miss crosby on defense. crosby would have turned that double play.

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368. "Long weekend............... in more ways than one"
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Well that was one long ass weekend. I went to 3 of the 4 games. Friday and Saturday against the Yankees and then back down yesterday to see them lose to the M's. It's amazing how I started on the highest of highs (a 12-0 ass kicking of the Yankees) and ended with the lowest of the lows ( Being shut out by the lowly M's)

Bottom line is, we can't make the playoffs with the injuries we have now. We have lost our #1 starter, CF and SS that are also our 2 and 3 hitter respectively. I'm not sure any team could over come that let alone one with the payroll we have. Not look for excuses here at all, but it is what it is. If we don't get healthy (and fast) we will be thinking about next year come October.

  

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369. "Injuries could indeed sink us, which really sucks"
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'Cause now it looks like Zito and Kielty are hurt too. I know Zito isn't likely to miss a start, but a rib-injury can't be good for an optimum pitching performance. And while Kielty hasn't been exactly consistent, we're running out of experienced people to throw out there. Sure, Bynum and Thomas would be a solution, but it's asking a lot of guys who have spent most of the season in AAA to come up now and make a major impact in September. We're just missing too many bats. And the bats that remain just go hot and cold waaay too often.

I'm not going to give it up. I'm just saying with all these injuries, we've got our work cut out for us.

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370. "Y'all took the words out of my mouth."
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Injuries. Injuries. Injuries. Having Harden, Kotsay and Crosby out of the line up was bad enough, but now we have to deal with Kielty and Zito getting hurt too? DAMN! Let's hope these guys heal quickly.

I think we'll bounce back against Seattle, but the road to the playoffs won't be easy. We have a tough schedule in September with series against Cleveland, Boston, Texas, Minnesota and the Angels. We need to make it happen.

What do you guys think about this kid from Seattle, Felix Hernandez? He looked really good against us. I can't believe he's only 19.

  

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371. "RE: Felix Hernandez"
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Didn't watch or hear the game yesterday. I was driving back up from LA, and there's no A's affiliate in the LA area, and the Fresno station opted to broadcast an obnoxious sportstalk broadcast. But honestly, this kid's doing too good to be anything but the real thing. Some are talking about him like he's the second coming of Dwight Gooden. That may be taking things a little far, but it's kind of scary. I would give the Mariners a certifiable ace next year, instead of 56-year-old Jamie Moyer.

No matter what happens this year, it ain't getting any wasier next year. We need to wisely spend some of the money we won't be spending on Dotel and Durazo.

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372. "RE: Felix Hernandez"
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Yesterday, Greg Papa and Tony Gwynn were broadcasting the game for ESPN. Greg Papa was all over the Dwight Gooden comparison. He could not stop raving about Hernandez the whole time he was in there. I don't blame him though because the kid pitched us tough. Hernandez has really good stuff. He's very composed and has strong command of all his pitches. It definitely looks like Seattle has found themselves an ace for years to come. Good news for them, bad news for us.

  

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373. "not looking good at all"
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that's 5 runs in 5 games, excluding the yankee game.

w/ how bad this offense is, even if we do get into the playoffs, the only shot we have at winning a series is if we get the wildcard and face the whitesox.

  

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374. "Anytime Scutaro is batting sixth, we're in trouble"
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Yeah, I know Kendall had the day off, but do you need to pull that lefty/righty shit that badly?

The hitting is dead. And Kotsay's rusty, so he gets two errors. I blame the second one at least partially on the Raiders for screwing up the field, but it still was not a good look by Kotsay.

The only possible silver lining is that at least we didn't lose any ground. But all these home losses are ridiculous. Hopefully win can at least pull off a win tomorrow.

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375. "I know this is some look at the bright side shit but......"
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Let's not forget where we were in May. I'm not going to even act like I'm not pissed our hitting as gone in the tank and we are in danger of being out of this thing within two weeks. But it's Sept and we are 1 1/2 games out. After trading Mulder and Huddy we weren't even supposed to be here now. Regardless of what happens the rest of the year, one thing we now know is our pitching is more than good enough to get the job done. We have 2 all-star quality starters (Harden & Zito), another young one that could become a star (Haren), a rookie that has pitched like a 5 year vet since May (Blanton) and the best young set up man and closer in the league (Justin D and Street) When you add to that the young guns we have in our everyday line up, we shouldn't get too caught up in feeling sorry for ourselves now. Let's not forget, we rebuilt this season. That fact we are in this race is all gravy.

  

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376. "Yeah, I'll co-sign on all of that..."
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We came into this season looking like the joke of the west, and even after all this losing, there's still a real possibility we can win 90 games. And I've said many times on this board, at the beginning of the season I'd say that if we won 85 games, the season would be a smashing success no matter what happened.

And while things are looking a little grim now, all things considered, I'd rather come close and miss than have the entire season be like it was up until May 29.

I'm not even saying the season is over, it's just that we're not playing good when we should be. I can live with dropping 2 out of 3 to the Yanks, but all the other lossses during the home series really stink. The Orioloes? The Royals? The Mariners?

However, I really hope we can pull this one out. If we do, it'll be sweeter than at least 2000 and 2003. And certainly vying with 2001 and 2002. So let's pull our asses off the canvas and do this shit.

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377. "Excellent point, OldPro..."
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but dammit I want to win now! hahaha. The future is definitely bright for the A's. Our team is very young and we have somehow managed to turn a rebuilding year into rebuilding months, but I don't want to see this opportunity pass. It would be great to get into the playoffs and try to make some noise with this young team.

Last night's game hurt. Kennedy pitched a great game. It's a shame to see another great pitching performance go to waste. Those plays in centerfield were so uncharacteristic of Kotsay. He's obviously still rusty from his time off. I think we also need to give Swisher a few days off. He's been in a horrendous slump since he returned to the team. Maybe give Matt Watson some ABs. We definitely need to do something to jump start the offense.

Like Hood stated, the silver lining is that we're only 1 1/2 back and we haven't lost any ground to the Angels. There is still a good amount of time to make a push.

LET'S GO OAK-LAND!!!

  

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378. "Oh don't get it twisted"
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I want to win now too

I just thought we all needed to take a step back for a moment and put things in perspective.

Now that we have done that, let's get back in this race!

  

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379. "Looks like we have to play catch up...."
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if we want to win today's game. We're down 6-3 going into the top of the 6th. We need some late inning magic!

  

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380. "WOW!"
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5 runs in the bottom of the 9th! UNBELIEVABLE!!! I'm glad we were able to squeak out one victory against Seattle before we head to Texas. Hopefully, this will give us some momentum for our road trip.

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381. "That right there could save the season"
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If he could get back to great situational hitting like that, we can really get back into the swing of things. I hope you're right, and this will give as some forward momentum against the Rangers. Dropping a series to them, playing in Texas or not, would be inexcusable right now.

On a side note, Ginter's still useless.

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382. "LMAO!"
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"Ginter's still useless."

When Ginter was up in the bottom of the 9th with the bases loaded, I was telling my co-worker (another A's fan), "Why does he have to be up right now? FUCK! I hate this guy!"

At least he only hit into a fielder's choice instead of a double play. Then I really would have been heated.

  

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383. "Worst trade.Beane's ever made"
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Probably worst player he's ever picked up for the A's, including free agent signings. I mean Eric Karros and Arthur Rhodes were bad, but they had more redeeming characteristics than this guy. Well, maybe not Karros...

I swear they just play this guy to piss me off. The fucking human rally killer. Kielty gotten better, but Ginter still couldn't get a clutch hit to save his life.

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384. "i don't understand how we can only be a half game away"
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from first despite how terrible we've been playing. i FEEL like we should be 3-4 games back. but we're just a half game back.

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385. "Man, think about what good of a position we'd be in if..."
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...we hadn't been pounded by the Orioles and the Royals at home? If we had taken 4 or 5 of those games, like we should have, we'd be in first by like 2 or 3 games. And that's with losing series to the Yanks, Angels, and even Seattle. I guess by in large, we pick the right days to lose. Or something.

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386. "RE: Man, think about what good of a position we'd be in if..."
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>...we hadn't been pounded by the Orioles and the Royals at
>home? If we had taken 4 or 5 of those games, like we should
>have, we'd be in first by like 2 or 3 games. And that's with
>losing series to the Yanks, Angels, and even Seattle. I guess
>by in large, we pick the right days to lose. Or something.

I was just thinking about this last night. We could be 4 games up right now if we had just taken care of the teams we should have beaten when we were still healthy. But I have resigned myself to the fact the team means to torture us this season. Make us think they are going to lose a 100 games, then go on one of the greatest two month runs in history, only to lose a series to the Royals who had lost 19 straight at the time, then get hot again, then cold, now a 5 run 9th when it looked like they might be packing it in for the year. MAN, I'm exhausted! I don't know if I can take 3 more weeks of this shit!

  

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387. "hahaha! co-sign"
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this team has definitely raised by blood pressure. it's been a rollercoaster ride of a season.

  

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388. "They're gonna have to start administering my oxygen"
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if the A's keep this up. Shit's bad for my mental health. They've got checking my jobs medical plan to see if they cover therapy sessions and shit.

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389. "A's at Rangers"
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The start of a make or break road trip

I have no idea what to expect

I just hope they take this series before they get into the real deep water next week

  

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390. "RE: A's at Rangers"
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The Rangers have a lot of offensive fire power, so we definitely need to score some runs in this series.

Saarloos is starting tonight. We usually fair well when he's on the mound. Hopefully, we can get him win #10 tonight.

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391. "We pulled off some miracles that last time in Texas"
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Winning four in a row down there is damn near impossible. The A's got a lot of good luck that series, especially considering they usually have oodles of bad luck down there. I can't call how it's exactly gonna go down, but we NEED to win 2 out of 3. And dammit, I've got to root for the Red Sox again. That always hurts.

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392. "any word on crosby yet?"
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i can't find any word from my usual sites.

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393. "isn't he still on the DL?"
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397. "Last night on the radio, they were talking like..."
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...there's a distinct possiblity he might not play again this season. Apparently his foot's in a lot of pain, and they're not sure if it's because of the fracture or the bone bruise.

He is travelling with the team, so that's good. Hopefully he comes back soon.

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394. "nice to see the old Shields back yesterday"
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struck out the side looking with two men on base in the 8th

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395. "Dude, on the real, just start your own post if ya want to big up the Ang..."
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This is just juvenille now.

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396. "why does it bother you so much?"
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its related to the AL west race, which both the A's and the Angels are involved in.
...we got lucky tonight, Vlad almost screwed everything up by thinking he hit a homerun, but he redeemed himself by scoring from second on a sac bunt! that was crazy.
these next couple of weeks are gonna be insane.

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398. "Well, that was a close one last night..."
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But we managed to hang on, and that's all that matters. Even though we didn't gain any ground, we didn't lose any either.

It's weird that once the A's leave California, they're an offensive juggernaut. But I guess it comes with playing in hitters parks.

Oh yeah, Ellis is very much the MAN. What sucks is that he's not even ON the ballot for comeback player of the year. Serious league brainfart on that one.

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399. "20 games left"
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Angels up by 2
-schedule includes: Seattle, Detroit, Texas(twice), Tampa Bay, Oakland.

A's down by 2.5 in wildcard
-schedule includes: Cleaveland, Boston, Minnesotta, Texas, Los Angeles, Seattle.

on paper it looks like the Angels should take this easy, but you never know what can happen when you play all these teams that have nothing other to play for that to stop you from making the playoffs...so i'm not gonna start the celebration just yet.

although i hate the A's, i hate the yankees more, so i'll still say good luck to the A's and hopefully we can take the Division and you guys can take the wildcard and keep the yankees out.

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400. "A's at Indians"
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It goes without saying this is a big series. But the fact this comes right before the 4 game set in Boston makes it even bigger. Anyone have word on Harden's health? We need that dude back if were are going to have a shot.

  

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401. "Doesn't like great for Harden"
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I heard he throw off the mound yesterday, not even all the way on top, and his arm hurt. Donn't know how much longer that means he's going to be out. But we REALLY need him back. Kennedy's doing the best he can, but he's not the answer.

And continue to be limping along. Crosby will be a while, Kielty still hurt, and Kotsay's back is acting up (don't know if he'll be out or not).

It sucks, 'cause even though we won the Texas series, we still lost ground. This is the type of road trip where you're supposed to be happy if you go 6-4, but that won't cut it this time around. We really need to sweep the Indians and win three out of four in Boston; neither will be easy. Especially with the injuries.

The way I figure it, if we can make up two games to the Angels in two weeks, we'll be in good shape. Just into that series tied, and we've, or even one game back, and we've got a shot.

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402. "No doubt!"
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We need to make it happen in Cleveland! This is a good opportunity to make up some ground in the Wild Card. Let's not let it slip by.

We did a good job in Texas taking 2 of 3, but we still lost a game to the Angels. DAMN!

  

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403. "Way to start this off the right way"
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All in all a fine pitching performance. Could have lived without all the errors and the runners left on base (we should have won this at least 4-0), but a win is a win is a win. We just keep this going, and we'll be cool.

I'd also like to add they should just make Street the Rookie of the Year. To come in under this kind of pressure and win get more than 20 saves on a strong play-off contender? That's gotta count for something. Especially with Swisher apparently out of the running.

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404. "Houston Street"
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I agree Street is the clear front runner for Rookie of the Year at this point. Dude is nails. I almost get the same feeling I used to get when Eck came into the game. You just knew the other team was going to get shut down. I still have to remind myself he's just a rookie.

On an unrealated note, I just have to say that Bond's first at bat last night was amazing. Say what you want about that cat, but he's a star on the highest level. I'd give anything to see Barry in the green and gold before his career is over. I know it won't happen but damn how sweet would it be to have him parked in the middle of our line-up.

  

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406. "Both points are right on the money."
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Street has clearly made a strong push for ROY. This guy is so poised for a rookie. He throws some nasty stuff. I hope we lock this guy up to an extension the same way we did with Harden.

I also like the way Macha has handled our bullpen. I think the situational pitching is working out well. He has the relievers come in to face one batter and then he makes a change. It keeps our bullpen fresh because this is the point in the season where we'll have to use these guys on a daily basis.

On Bonds, I'd love to see this guy end his career as our DH. Even with all the controversy that surrounds him, I still consider him the greatest baseball player that I've ever had the chance to watch play. He has a swing like no other.

  

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408. "Ooh, good point. I forgot about that"
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>I also like the way Macha has handled our bullpen. I think
>the situational pitching is working out well. He has the
>relievers come in to face one batter and then he makes a
>change. It keeps our bullpen fresh because this is the point
>in the season where we'll have to use these guys on a daily
>basis.

Macha has done a bang-up job with the bullpen for the last few months. Earlier in the season he was prone to over-managing, but as of late he's worked out when to pull the trigger at the right time. Especially with how tough this road trip has been and will continue to be, we need the relievers to stay fresh.

I'll even take it a step further: with all the injuries and adversity the A's have faced, I think Macha should be a candidate for manager of the year. I know it's going to be Guillen, but I don't see how Guillen has been THAT much better of a manager than Macha. Just a thought.

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409. "Word"
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"I'll even take it a step further: with all the injuries and adversity the A's have faced, I think Macha should be a candidate for manager of the year. I know it's going to be Guillen, but I don't see how Guillen has been THAT much better of a manager than Macha."

  

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407. "Street and Bonds"
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Street is going to be something special. And he's going to be here for a while too (this is just his second year in the league, so we get at least five more years with him). I can totally see him turning into Eck. That would be something special.

I missed the Bonds AB, but it looked wild when I saw it on the replay. I find Bonds a little, um, problematic, but he's certainly one of the greatest players I've ever seen play in my lifetime (I still maintain Rickey is better). I don't think he'll EVER play for the A's however. We just can't afford him as a free agent, and I doubt the Giants would ever trade him to us. What scary is that he really wants to play in Anahiem. He's said so for years. Now I doubt the Giants will trade him (he brings in so money in terms of ticket price), but he might sign with them as a free agent in 2007, which would make things a lot more difficult for us.

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405. "Great Win!!!"
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Haren stepped the fuck up after last week's dismal start against Seattle. It's good to see a young pitcher bounce back like that after a bad game. He pitched extremely well.

I agree with the errors and the runners left on base. That bothered me too. We've left way too many runners on base all season. But like you said, we won! That's all that counts.

Now we're only 1 game behind the Angels and a 1 1/2 behind the Tribe. Let's hope the Mariners help us out again and we handle our business.

  

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410. "on rookie of the year"
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its peralta no question... as long as he can snap out of his little slump here, he has ridiculous numbers for a rookie shortstop.

edit - either peralta or jorge cantu. i had forgotten that cantu might be eligible since he had 50 games last yr. he has better stats so he should probably win

  

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411. "RE: on rookie of the year"
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>its peralta no question... as long as he can snap out of his
>little slump here, he has ridiculous numbers for a rookie
>shortstop.
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>edit - either peralta or jorge cantu. i had forgotten that
>cantu might be eligible since he had 50 games last yr. he has
>better stats so he should probably win


street has the best era among closers in the american league. better than rivera. his numbers are far more ridiculous for a rookie than peralta.

oh, and peralta played in 77 games in 2003. he's no rookie.

  

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412. "First of all, someone needs to tell Jhonny to stop..."
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...spelling his name wrong. j/k

Second of all, it's Street all day, every day. Tell me even you, as an Indians fan, didn't get shivers when you watched his performance last night? Dude has got straight ice-water in his veins.

Peralta has contributed a lot, but he's not expected to do nearly as much as Street. Peralta has always been in what should have been at least a good hitting line-up, which has only come on strong as of late. Street, in his rookie year, has been asked to be a closer for a team that's been making a play-off push since he was awarded the role. He's been playing in high pressure games since June, and has excelled in the role. If he keeps it up for the last three weeks of the season and he doesn't win rookie of the year, the voters got some serious explaining to do.

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413. "We lose, Angels lose"
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lol seems like neither team really wants this all that bad.

rather, both teams seem pretty beat up. i just hope we have something left in the tank for boston.

that game-tying home run really hurt watching. i had to shut it off.

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414. "Ben @#$%ing Broussard"
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That second one didn't even look like it was going to be a HR for a second. Dammit.

Speaking of banged up up, beside the ump absolutely blowing the Dan Johnson call in the 9th, I'm worried about his health now as well. He was seriously limping after colliding with Wickman. What we really don't need is another injury.

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415. "Seems like that always happens"
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I had the leave the house last night before the game was over. I left right when the lights went out (A's leading 2-0) I was telling my wife, I bet they will lose the lead while I'm gone. Sure enough........... I know it had nothing to do with me but it sure seemed like it. I can't tell you how many times I've come home to find the A's have lost the lead.

  

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416. "That one hurt!!!"
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It sucks to see Saarloos pitch such a great game only to have the bullpen blow it for him. I thought Duchscherer was going to get out of that inning once he got the second out.

I didn't think that second home run was going to leave the park either. But it just kept on drifting and drifting and barely made it over the fence.

Oh well, at least the Angels lost too. We're still only a game back.

  

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417. "Macha pulled Saarloos too early"
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Of course, the day after we talk about him managing the bullpen well, he pulls the starting pitcher about an inning or so too early and throws in Witasik, who hasn't been very good lately.

I mean, I know that there was a 21 minute delay due to the lights, but damn, it wasn't Saarloos was looking gassed. He was still going strong. He had walked four, but seemed to be settling down. Bah.

Anyway, we lost no ground to the Angels. And if they can hit for Zito, we can go back to 1 1/2 back. I believe in keeping the pressure up on both fronts.

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419. "Macha definitely pullled Saarloos too early."
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He could have thrown a few more pitches, especially with all the time he gets between starts. I knew I'd jinx Macha when I gave him that praise.

  

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418. "i take it back"
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thanks mariners

  

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420. "hahah."
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the Mariners almost blew it, but they came back to win. Let's hope we get a win tonight.

  

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421. "We're getting no-hit by Westbrook"
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Not a good look at all.

Jeez, we could could be going a game up today. It's @#$%ing Westbrook. Bah!

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422. "Last night, Westbrook worked us."
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If it weren't for the Swisher homer, we wouldn't even have been in the game. The bats were dead.

But their is a silver lining. Thanks to the Mariners, we didn't lose any ground on the Angels. Our wildcard hopes are fading though. We gotta win the West.

  

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423. "*grumble* I don't even want to talk about it"
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The Angels are *giving* us the west, but we can't capitalize. Yeah, Westbrook worked us, but I really felt like the umping sucked for the entire series. Did you see that lame-ass double-play? Add to that all the blown calls, and it kind of feels like we got jobbed. But the Indians are playing damn well right now; everything's falling their way.

So now we got four games against the best home team in the AL, while the Angels play Detroit. And our bats are dead. We gotta take two out of three to position ourselves in the best possible way before we had home.

This will all come down to those four games against the Angels in Oakland. I can feel it.

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424. "Does anyone want the AL West?"
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It sure doesn't look like it. The frustrating thing is, I can't help but think if we had stayed healthy we'd be walking away with this thing.

  

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425. "Definitely!"
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With the way the Angels have been playing, we could easily be a few games up on them if it weren't for all our injuries. But what can you do, injuries are part of the game. I'm just glad we have a deep enough team that our bench/role players can keep the ship afloat while the others heal.

I read a report about Harden. Macha didn't sound too optimistic about his return. I hope we get him back on the mound soon.

  

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426. "Not to sound like a broken record..."
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But it was that Orioles/Royals homestand combo that killed us. Win in August so you don't have to win as much in September. Especially against the bad teams.

But yeah, we should have flattened the Angels by now. Ah well, at least the AL West race isn't as pathetic as the NL West race.

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448. "the same could be said for the Angels..."
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>I can't help but think if we had stayed healthy we'd be walking
>away with this thing.

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427. "There's nothing like beating the Red Sox"
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And better yet, there's nothing like beating Schilling, possibly my least favorite pitcher (or one of the top three). We didn't beat him up, but we slapped him around and chased him out of the game, which is always nice.

It was a satisfying win, but not the same way a 12-1 whopping is satisfying. But it feels good nonetheless.

Well, we got something to work with. LEt's hope the Angels lose and we gain a little ground here.

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428. "Let's hope this isn't another one of those series..."
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where the A's win the first game then drop the next 2 or 3. Winning the series would be nice, but getting at least a split will do. We would still be in the race coming home and that's all I had hoped for going into this road trip. Any more word on Vlads sholder?

  

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429. "Vlad's shoulder"
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They seem to still be saying it's "jammed." Nothing about whether it will keep him out or not. I'm guessing unless it's really serious, he'll be back after a day of rest or something.

It'd be nice to win tonight as well, and keep some of the momentum going. It'd be cool to pound Wakefield; knuckleballers are an abomination to sports and nature.

Funny how now we win the first game, then drop the others. It used to be we always dropped the first game of the series. Ah, the ups and downs of the season.

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431. "Take your time, Vlad."
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You don't want to risk further injury. Take a few weeks off and just relax. No rush to come back, seriously.

  

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432. "RE: Take your time, Vlad."
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>You don't want to risk further injury. Take a few weeks off
>and just relax. No rush to come back, seriously.

Yeah, I'm sure that's how haj feels lol

  

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430. "Did you catch Schilling's reaction..."
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when he was taken out of the game? Dude was pissed! I was loving it.

Definitely a good way to start the series. I'm glad Swisher is finally hitting the ball. He's been in such a horrendous slump. We could use his pop at the bottom of the line up.

  

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433. "Payton Sucks"
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Isn't that what it says at the start of this thread? That crowd seems to be awfully quiet lately lol

  

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434. "You know, I thought about pulling a haji..."
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...and bumrushing the "Red Sawks Rules!!!" threads on some "How Ya like Me Now" shit, but I decided against it. They'll just have to live with the fact that a) Beane really did fleece the Red Sox, b)the Red Sox really could use him right now, c) he seems utterly unfazed about coming back there to play and d) he chased the "great" Schilling out of the game.

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435. "What's the deal with Payton's contract?"
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How long do we have him locked up for? Do any of you guys know? He's been playing really well since we acquired him from Boston. I wouldn't mind if he stuck around and was our everyday leftfielder. The dude has some pop in his bat and a cannon for an arm.

  

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436. "I want to say he's in his last year, but don't quote me"
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I wouldn't mind signing the guy either. No reason to go trolling for a right-handed outfileder with power, if we've already got one on the roster. He probably wouldn't cost much either, and considering we have money freed up from not paying Durazo and Dotel, we could conceivably sign him for three years at $3 to $3.5 million a year (about what he's getting paid now). Hell, we've got all the young talent locked up. The only other question is whether we're going to extend Zito's contract (which we should).

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437. "RE: I want to say he's in his last year, but don't quote me"
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Yeah, he's in the last year of his deal. I think he'll stick around if they make a fair offer. He has been well receievd in Oakland and I think that actually means something to him. Not enough to take below market value but enough to stay here if all things are equal.

  

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438. "What do you think his market value is?"
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Hits .270 to .280, probably can hit about 25 HRS in season, good speed, good defense, cannon of an arm. What will that get you in the MLB nowadays?

To me, he sounds like Jose Guillen with more upside. And that's not a dis, because Guillen can be quite good (he was even an MVP candidate early in the year). Guillen signed that 3 year, $9 million deal with the Angels before getting traded. I'd pay Payton that much, and even more. But would you pay Payton $5 million a year to stick around? Honest question.

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442. "RE: What do you think his market value is?"
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4 mil maybe but not 5

We do have some good outfielders in the minors still.

  

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439. "from a couple sites i read this about payton's contract"
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"Payton is earning $3.5 million this year and has a team option for $4 million next year with a $500,000 buyout."

my guess is that they'll pick up the option, then move him for a prospect and someone cheaper, cuz that's just how they do.

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444. "RE: from a couple sites i read this about payton's contract"
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sounds about right

  

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445. "Good info..."
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Thanks for clearing that up.

  

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440. "How sweet it is: 12-3"
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Again, whupping ass just feels better when it's against Boston. And chasing Clement out in an inning and a third was top notch. Chavez two jacks were quite nice, and it's funny to see the Red Sox waving the white flag by the bottom of the fifth.

A 5-5 road trip end the end, which isn't how I'd ideally liked it to have been, but it was a tough three series, so I guess we can't be too disapointed. It would good to make a solid offensive statement before returning home for three more CRUCIAL series.

BTW, anyone out there going to any of the games? I'll be there Tuesday, Sunday, and next Tuesday.

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441. "i'm there tomorrow"
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i'll be the one with the concerned look on his face if we don't have at least a 5 run lead.

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447. "I'm glad we were able to salvage a split"
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after two tough losses on Friday and Saturday. 5 - 5 isn't that bad considering our opposition on this road trip.

I haven't gotten any tickets yet, but I'm thinking about hitting up one of the games against the Angels. The Coliseum should be rockin' for that series.

  

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443. "Crosby"
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Word is he may be back Tuesday.

  

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446. "That's good news!"
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Crosby doesn't exactly have monster numbers, but the team plays so much better when he's in the lineup.

  

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449. "Well, that was needlessly interesting"
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But I guess a win is a win. I blame Yabu personally, for being unable to get anyone out and necessitating Macha to bring in Street. Almost ruined a great outing by Barry.

Anyone know if Crosby's okay? Seeing him limping back to the dugout was not cool. Shame to lose him just after we got him back.

So tonight it's Blanton vs. their rookie phenom. Can't remember his name. Hopefully, we can keep the offense going. I'll be there to bear witness.

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450. "According to SFGate.com..."
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Crosby said that he's okay. He thinks he'll be able to go tonight.

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451. "Man, I about came out of my chair when Cosby hit the bag"
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He has to be smarter than that. 7-0 lead and just back from an ankle injury, might not be the best time to be leaping to the bag. The A's MUST HAVE Crosby down the stretch if they are going to have a shot. That said, we just seem to keep hanging around. As long as the A's are within 2 games going into the final weekend I'll be happy.

  

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452. "This shit is all coming down to that Angel series"
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It's looking more and more like we are going to be around 1-3 games back going into that series. Looks like I'm going to have to use some vacation days and make a trip down for a couple of games.

  

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453. "Yep yep"
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It's like the A's have got to win every single game until then, which kind of sucks, but so it goes. We gotta make up AT LEAST one game between now and then, so that we're no more than one game back, or else it's gonna be tough/impossible. It would be even better if we started the series tied.

That said, I was at liast night's game and it was quite fun. Blanton didn't have his best stuff, but he soldiered through it, and Calero and Witasik held it down. Also, the front three in the line-up were damn near unstoppable. Imma fuck around and say Ellis is clearly the best 2B in the league, and should get at least a few MVP votes. Yeah, I said it.

I'll be at least one game during the Angels series, maybe two. Should be off the hook.

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454. "Ellis"
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I'm just happy they ain't still trying to hit dude 9th. That shit was killing me.

  

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455. "Hopefully..."
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Texas will be able to help us out tonight. We've been playing well the last few games, but the Angels are playing good ball too. If we can keep pace or even pick up a game by Monday, we'll be in great shape.

Ellis continues to play well. I just realized he'd be among the AL leaders in average if he had more at-bats. He better win Comeback Player of The Year. He's playing at a really high level right now.

Swisher seems to have gotten his swing back too. We could definitely use some pop at the bottom of the line up.

LET'S GO OAK-LAND!!!

  

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456. "Sadly, Ellis CAN'T win comeback player of the year"
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It's set up so that fans vote for the winner on the MLB website, and Ellis isn't EVEN ON THE BALLOT! Even if he was on the ballot, most people would vote for Giambi anyway (who'll likely win anyway). Stupid Selig.

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457. "Ellis isn't on the ballet?!??!?!"
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That's just wrong!

  

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458. "*Bangs head on desk repeatedley*"
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6-0. Well, that's cute. More proof we really need Harden back, which ain't likely.

And of course, with our luck, the Angels will win tonight. And then tomorrow. Putting us three back.

Come on Rangers!!!!!!!!!!! (It hurts to write that)

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459. "9-3 in the 7th"
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Yeah this is ugly

  

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460. "Real ugly!!!"
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GO RANGERS!!!

  

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461. "Kennedy and Cruz were horrible"
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Yeah, we really do need Harden back

  

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462. "Texas"
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I hate watching a game looking for help from another team. And watching Texas blow that game last night just left me feeling sick. 5-1 lead and they can't close the show. We can't lose any more ground now. We have to stay within 3 going into that Angel series or it's over.

  

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463. "If the Angels win again tonight we're fucked"
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We'd be three games and we couldn't afford to lose another game. Even if that happened, we'd have to sweep the Angels to be one game up. If we won 3 out 4 against Anaheim, we'd be a game back without much hope.

Fuckin' Rangers and fuckin' Kennedy. And things seemed so nice just 24 hours ago...

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464. "I'd love to go this weekend"
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But my daughter has a tournament (fastpitch softball)
I'm going to take off next Thursday and go if they still have a fighting chance by then.

  

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465. "yah we're pretty much assed out barring a minor miracle"
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can we sweep the rest of the games? guess we'll find out... i'll be in the bleachers on wednesday.

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466. "come on tampa bay!"
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i know you've got it in you. you've fucked up the yankees, you can do it to the angels too.

  

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469. "Go D-Rays!"
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Help us out! Do it for Lou!

  

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467. "Rangers at A's"
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We have to sweep. HAVE TO!

If we sweep, I think we'll pick up a game

Then win 3 of 4 vs The Angels to pull even going into the last weekend.

We can still do this but there is very little wiggle room

  

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468. "*gets broom ready*"
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hopefully, the rangers will roll over against us like they did with the angels.

  

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470. "They should just do the right thing and roll over for us"
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It's not like Schowalter's job is in jeopardy. Though know what the team needs. So just choke and give us a break dammit!

Shit, Imma be there on Sunday. Hopefully that's not the game Rogers pitches. I fucking hate Rogers.

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471. "first and third, no outs, can't score"
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first and third, one out, CAN'T SCORE.
first and third, two outs, CAN'T FUCKING SCORE.

that was the most painful thing to watch, that bottom of the 8th.

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472. "Well, we're screwed"
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I was at the game and it was quite a frustrating experence. Three time we could have done something to back on track, three times we blow it. And the final turning point of the season might have been that bum foul-tip call. I haven't seen it on TV, so can someone tell me if the ball hit the ground?

We're four down with seven to go. We literally cannot lose another game. As valiantly as they've fought, this might be it. All the Angels have to to do is split the series now. I'm still hope for the best, and I'll be there Tuesday and Wednesday to cheer us on.

I'll write again later when I feel more effusive. Now I'm just bummed out.

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481. "From the replay..."
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it looked like the ball hit the ground.

  

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473. "Angels at A's"
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Well this is it

It's sweep or bust

I'm going Thursday

I just hope the game means something

  

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474. "*sigh* I miss Tejada"
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I wish I could be a bit more confident going into this crucial stretch, but I'm having a very hard time getting myself to believe that this team is capable of winning seven games in a row, which is what we need to do.

The main problem is that we have no hitter on the team that can come up and you can expect something to happen. That's what was so good about Tejada, Gimabi, and even Dye for the second half of 2001. When they chiips were down, there was a good chance for one of them to get a hit, be it a single, double, or HR. Especially the HR.

Now we've got a bunch of guys with potential upsides, but no one with any real consistent power. The lack of power is really the most discourageing thing. Guys like Chavez, Payton, Swisher, Crosby, and Johnson, all have the potential, but they've all been streaky as hell as of late.

No matter how the rest of the season pans out, Beane needs to make the effort to either sign or trade for right-handed power hitter. I know there's not many out there, but if we want to be winners in the play-offs, we're going to need it. What's the point of getting people on base if there's no one to knock them in?

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475. "I can honestly say, I don't even think about Miggy"
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As good a player as he is, I think they made the right move letting him go. I understand what you're saying hood but let's not forgot, we were in a rebuilding year. I know that's hard to keep in mind seeing as we are in the race going into the last week of the season. But it's still a fact. Power wise I think we'll be fine. You have to look at what is likely over the next few years.

Ellis 10-15
Kotsey 15-20
Chavez 25-35
Crosby 15-20
Johnson 20-30
Swisher 25-35
Payton 20-25

I'd say we have the potential for good power numbers up and down the line up. Swisher and Johnson are only going to get better. And Crosby and Kotsey's health has been an issue all year. So I'd say you can expect better power numbers from all 4 of those guys next season. And in two more years, we'll have a power hitting catcher/DH in Daric Barton coming up.

If we can get a vet power hitter cheap then I'm all for it. But I'm not ready to give up our future to take a chance we really don't need to take in the first place.

  

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476. "I wasn't thinking about Miggy either, until..."
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...it was based loaded with two outs and we blew it.

...first and third was no outs and we blew it.

...first and second and no outs and we blew it.

Of course, I do pretty much agree with everything you said, but it just hurt to see us blow all those chances, again. I know it was the right move not to sign him, especially if the owner wouldn't give us the money. But it's frustrating as hell to get this close, even in a rebuilding year, and fail to deliever like I believe we can.

And don't get it twisted, I wasn't suggesting we trade anyone like Haren, Blanton, Harden, Johnson, Swisher, Street, etc. But I think we have the players who aren't exactly essential to pull off a good trade. Soemthing along the lines of the Redman and Rhodes for Kendall trade.

Anyway, I think no matter how it shakes out, we'll be better next year no matter, but I think with all of our young players locked up, we should spend some money to sign a good free agent or two.

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477. "2006 Free Agents"
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See anything you like?

Catchers:
Brook Fordyce
Brent Mayne (Retired) (Agent Barry Meister)

Todd Hundley
J.R. House (Rehab)
Robert Machado
Bobby Estalella
Andy Dominique
Benito Santiago
Greg Myers
Charles Johnson
Pat Borders
Ken Huckaby
Gary Bennett
Kelly Stinnett
Alberto Castillo

Todd Pratt

Ramon Hernandez
Keith Osik
Sandy Alomar Jr.


John Flaherty

Brad Ausmus
Eddie Perez
Mike Piazza
Dan Wilson (Retired)

Bengie Molina
Ivan Rodriguez (Poss. Team Void Option)
Einar Diaz
Todd Greene (Team Option)

Gregg Zaun (Team Option)

Paul Bako

Mike DiFelice

First Base/DH:
Fred McGriff (Agent Jim Krivacs)

David Segui

Edgar Martinez(Retired)
Robin Ventura(Retired)
Mo Vaughn
Andres Galaragga (Retired)
Phil Hiatt
Dave McCarty (Retired)
Steve Cox
Wil Cordero

Rafael Palmeiro
Jose Offerman


Frank Thomas (Player + Team option)

J.T. Snow
John Olerud
Roberto Petagine
Dave Hansen
Brad Fullmer

Julio Franco
Tim Salmon
Doug Mientkiewicz (Vesting Option)
Kevin Millar
Paul Konerko
Scott Hatteberg (Team Option)
Eduardo Perez
Robert Fick
Greg Colbrunn
Mark Sweeney
Tino Martinez (Team Option)
Ruben Sierra
Daryle Ward
Travis Lee
Olmedo Saenz
Erubiel Durazo
Brian Buchanan
Second Base:
Lou Collier
Homer Bush (Retired)
Bret Boone

Ray Durham (Player Option)
Carlos Baerga
Damion Easley
Fernando Vina (Expected to retire)
Frank Menechino (Team Option)(arb.)

Tony Graffanino


Todd Walker (Team + Player options)
Eric Young (Team Option)
Damian Jackson
Ronnie Belliard (Team Option)
Manny Alexander
Marlon Anderson
Mark Grudzielanek
Pokey Reese (Team Option)
Miguel Cairo
Roberto Alomar (Retired)

Enrique Wilson
Denny Hocking
Dave Berg
Joe McEwing
Third Base:
Herbert Perry
Todd Zeile (Retired)
Mark McLemore (Retired)
Shane Halter
Dean Palmer
George Arias
Scott Spiezio

Bill Mueller

Lenny Harris
Abraham O. Nunez
Jared Sandberg
Mike Mordeaci


Wes Helms

Joe Randa

Chris Stynes

Jeff Cirillo

Geoff Blum

Brandon Larson

Shortstop:
Rey Ordonez (Agent Adam Katz)

Barry Larkin (Retired)

Royce Clayton
Ricky Gutierrez
Jose Vizcaino
Chris Woodward
Desi Relaford
Alex Gonzalez (FLA)

Nomar Garciaparra
Deivi Cruz
Jose Hernandez
Jose Valentin
Luis Lopez
Ramon Martinez
Alex Gonzalez (TB)

Rafael Furcal
Benji Gil
Lou Merloni
Rich Aurilia
Rey Sanchez
Neifi Perez
Left Field:
Rickey Henderson (Agent Jeff Borris) (Playing in Indep. League)
Rusty Greer (Retired)
Raul Mondesi

Ray Lankford
Bubba Trammell

Reggie Sanders

Eli Marrero

John Mabry

B.J. Surhoff

Quinton McCracken

Carlos Lee (Team Option)

Bobby Higginson
Hideki Matsui* (please see his contract for details)
Rondell White (Rehab)
Randy Winn (Mutual Option)
Jeff Conine
Jeffrey Hammonds (Retired)
Todd Hollandsworth
Marty Cordova (Retired)
Center Field:
Eric Owens
Tom Goodwin
Doug Glanville (Retired)
Chris Singleton (Pursuing broadcasting)
Marquis Grissom
Brian L. Hunter (playing in Indy league)
Michael Coleman
Roger Cedeno

Jacque Jones
Carl Everett (Team Option)
Craig Biggio
Preston Wilson
Kerry Robinson
Jay Payton (Team Option)
Bernie Williams
Kenny Lofton
Curtis Pride
Roosevelt Brown
Ruben Rivera

Johnny Damon
Dee Brown
Peter Bergeron
Trenidad Hubbard
Right Field:
Orlando Merced
Jong-Soo Shim (Agent: John Kim)
John Vander Wal (Retired)
Armando Rios (Playing in Atl. League)
Darren Bragg (Playing in Atl. League)
Michael Tucker
Sammy Sosa (Team Option)
Larry Walker (Team Option)
Juan Encarnacion
Gabe Kapler

Orlando Palmeiro
Jose Cruz Jr.
Jacob Cruz

Richard Hidalgo
Juan Gonzalez
Moises Alou (Player Option)
Jeromy Burnitz (Mutual Option)
Danny Bautista (Retired)

Brian Jordan
Matt Lawton
Brian Giles

  

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478. "Not that I want him but what do you think will happen with Sammie?"
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Team option in 2006

Do you think the O's will let him walk?

  

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480. "Chances are about 50/50 either way"
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That team NEEDS pitching if it wants to stay competitive in that division, and Sosa wasn't really connected with the fans of Baltimore or seemed at home in Camden as much as expected. They could use the money they're not paying Sosa on a pitcher. They'd probably be just as happy to shed every single player that could ever be associated with the possibility of taking steroids.

But then again, it is Sosa, and if healthy, he could hit A LOT of HRs in Camden and make the team quite happy.

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479. "Out of those guys? I spot a solid three"
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And only one of them would be expensive.

1. Paul Konerko. The expensive one, but would provide damn good power. He's a righty. Not an outstanding fielder, so we could plug him into DH.

2. Larry Walker. Injury prone lefty, but he does still have 30-35 HR power when healthy. Of course, him staying healthy seems to be difficult. Time at DH could do him well.

3. Frank Thomas. Again, injury prone, but I've thought all season he would fit in perfectly on the A's. Walks a lot, can hit a bunch of HRs (if healthy), and always seems to be on base. And it's not secret him and Guillen don't see eye to eye. I bet we wouldn't have to break the bank to get him.

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482. "I thought about Thomas too"
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But there is another guy that interreges me more.......

Mike Piazza

Just not sure what kind of price tag he'd have.

  

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485. "Hmmmmm..."
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Piazza an interesting option. He's got the power we'd need, and he's obviously down with playing catcher.

The problems are two-fold:

1) His price, which will be high, since he is a HOF player. Apparently they were saying on Baseball Tonight that the Angels might go after him, which would suck, 'cause they've got the money. However, I still think they're going to hold out for Bonds in 2007.

2) I don't know if he'd fit in in the Bay Area. He's a conservative Republican who loves the night-life. The Oakland/SF Bay Area probably isn't the best place for him.

Regardless, if we could get him, he'd potentially be huge. I might favor Thomas, just 'cause he might be cheaper.

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488. "My girls games"
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She pulled a muscle Friday night and had to sit out Saturday. She's the starting short-stop and the team really struggled up the middle. They went 2-1 and seeded 6 out of 14. She wanted to give it a go Sunday. We played her but had a DH hit for her to keep her running down. She locked the team down D wise and we pushed into the Semis before finally losing. Thanks for asking.

  

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483. "Konerko..."
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would be a great addition. I'm with Hood. I think we need someone with a lot of power in the middle of our line-up. Konerko would provide that and be a good compliment to the players we already have.

  

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486. "Yep."
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Again, the only problem is price. I don't know if we could afford him, even with losing Dotel and Durazo's salaries. As perfect as he'd be, Konerko is a young player entering the prime of his career, and lots of teams could use right-handed power hitting first-basemen.

Dude could make Delgado money next year, especially since he's about four years younger. So we'd have to contend with the White Sox, the Angels, the Mets, the Orioles, the Dodgers, the Braves, etc., who can all offer him more money then us.

But if he came to the A's, he could win a championship.

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484. "Do or Die!"
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This is our season right here. It's going to take a miracle. By the way the team has been playing, I don't think we can sweep the Angels, but stranger things have happened.

Go A's!!!

  

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487. "this is it"
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its gonna be crazy.

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489. "another reason to hate the angels"
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http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/4898920

  

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490. "Well, that's just wrong. But in fairness to the Angels..."
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...Moreno doesn't seem to have a problem with the school using the logo. It's mostly MLB's beef, and we all know they're tools.

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496. "That is cold blooded."
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Let the kids use the logo!

  

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491. "ouuuut...magic number down to 2"
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493. "*shoots haji in the neck with a taser, backs bandwagon over his body*"
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Shit, we're not moving forward, we might as well accomplish something moving in reverse.

That said, this game was so annoying I gave up watching it to switch to "Prison Break." PRISON BREAK. These are truly sad times we live in.

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498. "RE: *shoots haji in the neck with a taser, backs bandwagon over his body..."
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>Shit, we're not moving forward, we might as well accomplish
>something moving in reverse.
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LOL I needed that

Thanks hood

  

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492. "^^^ comes around here only during angel victories"
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congrats to the Angels. they earned it. played great down the stretch.

and congrats to the A's, who had a hell of a season. i'm at peace with all this. i'll be there on wednesday to show love. we just signed haren long term and we're gonna have money to make some offseason moves. so it's looking great for next year.

they could possibly come back to make the playoffs with a major miracle, but it's not in our hands anymore. either way, i enjoyed the season quite a bit.

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494. "Yeah, you're right. I should stop being so negative"
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It's just frustrating.

I'll be there tommorow and Wednesday to show my final support for the season, and hope the can get things to pan out. Regardless of where the chips may fall, it's been a hell of a ride. Hopefully, we can make some more solid moves in the off-season, no matter what happens.

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495. "keep in mind this was a rebuilding year"
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we had no business being where we are now, given the number of injuries and all the young players that had to be involved. imagine crosby and harden healthy for a wholse season? durazo and dotel even?

they did far better than they should have this year, and they're in amazing shape for the next 5 years. kudos to billy beane and the boys.

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497. "Signing Haren to an extension was a great move."
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I'm glad he'll be part of our rotation for 4 more years.

It's hard to see the A's falter towards the end of the season after such a strong push, but like you mentioned, this is a rebuilding year for us. This team is only going to get better. We have a lot to look forward to next year.

  

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499. "...and there it is"
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Angels win the AL West.

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500. "*does Kano Mortal Kombat Fatality on haji*"
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*Swallows heart in two bites*

Figures that your punk ass would talk shit here instead of starting your own celebratory thread.

Front-running loser.

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502. "haha"
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i'm too humble to create a separate post for the AL west champs.

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503. "So you decide to smack like a chump here? Riiiiight....."
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Look at it this way: the Angels may win, but they'll probably lose. Meanwhile, at the end of it all you'll still be a heartless LA frontrunner.

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504. "you're a funny guy"
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its funny how there were never any A's posts until they started winning, and you're calling me a frontrunner...haha

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505. "This was a stretch drive post"
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That's why I used the term "bandwagon" How the fuck you gonna to have a stretch drive post in May?

Dude we have been in here riding for the A's win or lose. Unlike yourself, who mysteriously "had things to do" during the Angel low points. But then "found" free time just as quickly as Angels fortunes turned. You are the poster child for front-running So Cal fans everywhere. And for the record, we'll win another world series before the Angels do. You can put that shit in the books.

A's future >>>>>>Angels future

  

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510. "its funny how this post dropped to page 3 when the A's started losing."
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512. "This post only dropped to the third page on weekends"
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'Cause the rest of us have lives and don't camp out on the boards over the weekend.

Keep on taking your losses.

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516. "RE: This post only dropped to the third page on weekends"
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>'Cause the rest of us have lives and don't camp out on the
>boards over the weekend.
>
>Keep on taking your losses.

Thank You! I very rarely post on the weekend since I'm either at my daughters games or.... gasp..... actually at an A's game. Now there's a concept. A fan actually going to the stadium to support his team. Haj you really are a dumb shit you know that?

But what I want to know is this.......

Will you up this thread after your ass gets ran from the post season?

I think we all know the answer to that.

  

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519. "why are you guys so bitter?"
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520. "Because we fuckin lost"
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And you're an asshole.

Is there a better reason?

  

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522. "RE: Because we fuckin lost"
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LMAO! That was funny.

  

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501. "*Pulls bandwagon to the side of the road, throws it in park*"
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*Gets out, stretches.*

*Unfolds lawn chair and sits down. Pulls out a Oakland A's 2006 Prospectus and cracks a brew*

We'll be back motherf@#$as.

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506. "RE: *Pulls bandwagon to the side of the road, throws it in park*"
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I hear the 2006 bandwagon will be fully loaded

Crosby, Harden, Kotsey all healthy

Johnson & Payton for a full season

And as usual, Billy will have a move or two up his sleeve

Oh, you mutha fuckas just wait

Oakland A's 2006 AL Champs (and no I don't mean AL West)

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507. "Word up"
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I said from the beginning of the season that all I wanted was for the A's to make for .500. Considering what went down in the off-season, that was how I was going to gauge our success this year. I also told people that 85 wins would be beyond success. Well, we're at 85 wins now, and unless we drop the last five games, the 2005 A's will have achieved success beyond my wildestt dreams this year. So can't nobody say we didn't come correct. I'd be willing to be every single mag and pundit and "expert" out there picked the A's to finish last, maybe third, in their division. And we were in the race up until the last week of the season. So choke on that bee-otches.

That said, big ups to OldPro for starting this thread and holding it down. Bigs up to BigSlickMick, AZ, Emeng, Funky Worm, and all the other A's fans who showed up regularly and rallied for the good guys. And big up to the haters too, who, despite all their smack talk, showed they really were scared of the A's when push came to shove.

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509. "I'm going to miss this thread lol"
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I've spent 4-6 days each week by checking in with y'all. I got more out of this season because of it. Thanks to BigSlickMick, AZ & Emeng for their weekly contributions. Even Haj who played the villan role well lol. Special thanks to mrhood who pretty much became the co-host of this post. It's good to know both hood and slick are Niner fans too. But we'll get this wagon back on the road sometime next year. We need to meet up at a game or two next season too. Any way, y'all stay cool. I'll see you on the boards.

  

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508. "Hell Yeah!"
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I like the fire in these A's fans.

This season, we played better than anyone could have ever expected. During this offseason, our injured players will have time to heal and get ready for a strong 2006 campaign. And you know Billy will make some nice moves. Let's hope Wolfe will open up the check book and bring in that power hitter we need. All things considered, the future is definitely bright in Oakland.

Now it's time to focus my sports energies on the 49ers and the playoff bound Golden St. Warriors.

Good season, y'all.

  

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511. "it was a good season"
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i guess they overachieved for the most part, but way the season ended sucked. oh well, at least there's a bright future ahead, especially if this organization decides to spend some money. but i don't know if that's gonna happen considering the plans for a new ballpark.

  

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513. "Went to the game tonight. Not much excitement or drama"
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but it was nice to applaud the team in the ninth as they closed it out. a good season.

see you all in the spring, a's fans.

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514. "*puts casket in bandwagon*"
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RIP

  

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515. "RE: *puts casket in bandwagon*"
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Dude you created an alias to post that?

Man, I'm almost embarrassed for you after that.

And for a fan of a team that has one championship in it's history and is about the be one and out this year......But I guess as an Angel fan you have to live in the moment since your history is so limited. I mean after all, the franchises biggest claim to fame is a monkey, a cowboy and that goofy ass LAA shit.

  

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517. "haha @ you thinking thats me"
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sorry to disappoint you, but thats not me

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521. "Hold up"
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I never said "haj" once in my post.

If it wasn't you, and you were never named, why would you feel the need to defend yourself?

Man, you Angel fans aren't the sharpest knife in the drawer are you lol


  

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523. "haha, you're a funny guy OldPro"
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i guess you need a good sense of humor when you live in northern california.

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524. "Wait, are we bitter or humorous?"
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May I suggest flash cards to help you stay on point in the future

  

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525. "you being bitter is hilarious"
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526. "You starting an Angels post"
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and having it last more than a week would be hilarious

  

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528. "solo dime donde y cuando"
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y alli estare

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531. "^oops, replied to the wrong post, haha"
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518. "Laaaaaaaaaaaaammmmmmmmmmeeeeeeeee"
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Haji, this is pathetic even for you.

Edit: And it doesn't even make sense. "Puts casket in bandwagon"? Wouldn't that be "Puts Bandwagon in casket"? If you're gonna try to be funny, at least do it right. What are you, 12?

Seek help.

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527. "Okay, so this post doesn't end on a sour note, let's speculate..."
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...about the A's coaching situation. Sound good?

So many accounts have Macha leaving for Pittsburgh next year if he gets offered the job, 'cause he want to be close to his family (a legitimate excuse this time, 'cause he's from Pittsburgh). So who fills the vacancy?

I'd ideally like it to be Ron Washington, who's got a great baseball mind, but it probably won't be, since he doesn't believe in Beane's Moneyball philosophy. Besides, rumors have him as a possible candidate for the Tampa Bay job, which would be perfect for him. They've got a bunch of young, speedy hitters, and Washington is big on running. Furthermore, he's a great infield coach, and if Tampa Bay is ever going to bring up Upton, he could really use Wash's help (Upton is exceedinly error prone at SS).

So if those things happen, do the A's make the bench coach Lachman to manager? Should they promote the Triple coach? Or do we go outside the organization?

Thoughts? Anyone?

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529. "It will never happen"
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But I'd go with Joe Morgan

  

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530. "Former Red Sox coach Joe Morgan or ESPN Joe Morgan?"
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Because ESPN Joe Morgan will REALLY never happen. I don't think dude even likes the A's. He never has. And he certainly wouldn't go along with Beane ball, becuase he's criticized it for years. Has he ever even said he wanted to coach?

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532. "ESPN Joe Morgan"
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I know at one time he wanted to manage. And I know it will never happen (especially with the A's) but I think dude knows his stuff and whould make a good manager if ever given the chance.

  

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533. "Yankees vs Angels"
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*passes peace pipe to Haj*

We are all Angel fans now

  

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534. "Macha is gone."
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http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=Ag9P__w5OK8rwdL.ZeH1fxA5nYcB?slug=ap-athletics-macha&prov=ap&type=lgns

Who's next?

  

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535. "Beat me to it by seconds, here's a swipe"
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Macha ends up on the Pirates, 'cause he's from Pittsburgh. Couldn't tell ya who'll be the manager. I'd like to see Washington, but it will probably be Lachman, I good foil for management.



A's, Macha unable to bridge 'significant gap' in contract talks
Oct. 5, 2005
CBS SportsLine.com wire reports

Oakland Athletics manager Ken Macha was out of a job Wednesday after failing to reach an agreement on a new contract.

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"We decided it's best to part ways at this point," general manager Billy Beane said on a conference call.

"We offered a three-year deal with a club option and they countered with a three-year deal without a club option," Beane said. "I don't think we were ever going to be able to bridge the gap. It was a significant gap."

Macha led the A's to the AL West title in his first year as manager in 2003, the club's fourth straight playoff berth. But Oakland failed to reach the postseason the past two years despite a 91-win season in 2004 and 88 victories this year.

Macha had said he hoped to return to the A's, and said late in the season he thought the team would make a quick decision.


Ken Macha's team was in the playoff hunt until Sept. 27. (Getty Images)
"There are no hard feelings whatsoever," Beane said. "This is part of the business."

The A's went 88-74 this season, but seemed out of it in May when they had two eight-game losing streaks and finished the month with a 7-20 record. But Oakland rebounded with another strong second half, overcoming injuries to key players such as shortstop Bobby Crosby and No. 2 starter Rich Harden.

Beane met Monday with the 55-year-old Macha, who was still in the Bay Area as of Wednesday and had yet to return home to Pittsburgh for the offseason.

Macha was 276-211 in three seasons with the A's. He came to the Oakland organization in 1999 following four seasons as a manager in Boston's farm system. He was promoted from bench coach when Art Howe left for the New York Mets following the 2002 season.

A message left on Macha's cell phone Wednesday wasn't immediately returned.

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536. "Am I the only one that's not bothered by this at all?"
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Not that I thought he was a bad manager, I just don't feel this will have any impact.

  

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537. "Nah, you're not alone"
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I see it having about the same impact as when Howe left. Both of them were perfectly serviceable managers who were good at doing what they needed to do (1. Don't panic 2. Make the players feel vaguely good about themselves). Macha was probably even a better manager than Howe, even though he had the personality of a barrel. And as I argued earlier, he deserves to be manager of the year just as much as any other contender in the AL.

That said, I ain't tripping over this. I'm just trying to figure out who'll they'll bring in.

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538. "I agree..."
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We'll just keep it moving. We should be able to find a replacement for Macha and not skip a beat. If it was Billy Beane that left, then I'd be trippin'.

  

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539. "Let me throw this name out there"
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Lou Piniella

Not saying it could, would or should happen. Just putting it out there. Thoughts?

  

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540. "I don't see Pinella as a good fit"
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We got too many young players and he's never huge on patience. Pinella's a hothead, which has its time and place on certain teams, but I don't think it would fit in the A's organization. Especially since the clubhouse has been so easy-going for years, and I think his style would seriously clash with the players.

Plus, I don't see Pinella and Beane seeing eye to eye in terms of managerial style. Pinella's very hands on; they're are rumors the Beane was writing line-up cards this year.

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541. "RE: I don't see Pinella as a good fit"
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Actually I don't either. But one thing that I think the A's could use, is a manager that has a little fire in him. Howe and Macha both have been "safe" choices. I think it might be time to go another way. But I could see Pinella going back to the Yankees should they fail to win it all this year.

On another note, I heard some dude on KNBR this weekend saying he thought the A's would sign Piazza. He wasn't claiming any inside info just that he could see it happening. The more I think about it, that's a move I'd like to see them make.

  

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543. "Pinella will end up with the Yanks or the Marlins"
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The Marlins 'cause it's still in Florida, where he went to be close to his family.

Believe or not, I wouldn't mind if the A's got Alou, which I know is impossible, but I'd like to dream. I think they should have gone after him in 2003 when they lost Howe. He went a bit off the deep end this year, but I think he's laid back enough to work for the A's, but still has some fire in him.

And yes, I certainly hope the A's go after Piazza. He'd make a good DH. Him or Thomas, I'd be happy with either.

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542. "I don't see Lou fitting in either."
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I don't know if would want to manage a "Money Ball" style team. I think he would have too much conflict with Beane. But then again, he was able to manage under the watchful eye of George Steinbrenner.

  

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544. "Why is this post still alive?"
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I thought we were all front-runners lol

  

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545. "LOL!"
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yeah, wtf! the a's aren't going anywhere. i'm outta here!

  

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546. "He's baaaaaaaaaaaaack!"
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Taken from Yahoo! Sports:

A's come to terms with Macha to be manager after all

By JANIE McCAULEY, AP Sports Writer
October 14, 2005

The Oakland Athletics rehired Ken Macha as manager Friday, just more than a week after they failed to reach terms to renew his contract after three years.

The A's announced that the club reached a three-year agreement that will keep Macha under contract through the 2008 season.

Macha led the A's to the AL West title in his first year as manager in 2003, the club's fourth straight playoff berth. But Oakland failed to reach the postseason the past two years despite a 91-win season in 2004 and 88 victories this year.

Macha, 55, called it one of several ``massive disappointments'' in his seven years with the team when the sides couldn't reach a deal Oct. 5.

The A's interviewed both bullpen coach Bob Geren, a close friend of general manager Billy Beane, and third-base coach Ron Washington for the opening, while Macha interviewed for the vacancy with the Pittsburgh Pirates that was filled with former Dodgers manager Jim Tracy. Earlier this week, Rangers pitching coach Orel Hershiser was cleared to interview with Oakland for the manager job.

``It's good to have him back,'' right fielder Nick Swisher said in a phone interview from his home in West Virginia. ``Macha's a great manager and he knows the game. I'm excited for next season to get started. Billy knows what he's doing. Just like everyone else in this organization, he's always going to push us in the right direction.''

Messages left for Macha and his agent, Alan Nero, weren't immediately returned Friday.

Macha and Beane have had their tense moments during Macha's tenure, but Macha hoped he would receive some credit for getting Oakland to win this season with young players and an injury-plagued roster.

``Who knows how the rest of baseball views you?'' Macha said last week after Beane said there would be no further negotiations to keep the skipper. ``I can go home and sleep and know that we used tremendous character to get through this season.''

When they parted ways -- what turned out to be just a brief hiatus -- Beane said the A's had offered a three-year deal with a club option, while Macha had countered with a three-year deal without a club option.

The option would have allowed the A's to decide whether to keep Macha after three seasons.

Macha had said he hoped to return to the A's, but declined to discuss specifics of the team's offer, saying money matters are strictly personal. He earned around $630,000 this season.

Nero told The Associated Press he received an offer from Beane on Oct. 3, then offered two different counter proposals, the second of which brought the sides much closer. Beane said he ``verbally'' declined the last proposal.

The A's seemed out of it in May when they had two eight-game losing streaks and finished the month with a 7-20 record. Oakland rebounded with another strong second half, overcoming injuries to key players, including shortstop Bobby Crosby and No. 2 starter Rich Harden.

Oakland watched the Angels clinch the AL West on the A's home field for the second straight year.

The A's have almost their entire roster back for 2006.




  

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547. "I don't like this at all"
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You know he wanted that Pittsburgh job. When it was filled, then he wants to come back. We should have went with Washington.

  

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548. "I'd rather have Washington too.."
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but I think Macha is a better choice than say Bud Black, Orel Hersheiser or the other names that popped up. With the roster we have, I'd like to keep things in the organization stable and see how far we can go.

  

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550. "I love Washington, but he would have hated managing for Beane"
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You're right, we should have given him the chance. But I think he'll end up on one of the Florida teams, probably Tampa Bay. And he'll end up being much happier as a manager there.

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549. "This time I beat you to it."
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But like I said in the other post, I wasn't crying when he left, but I'm cool that he's back. It would have been a disaster to hire Hershieser or Bowa.

In the end, I figure Macha knew he would never get $4 million from anyone. I bet he thought at the time he could get the Pittsburgh job. When Tracy got it, he probably figured the best he could do is a job as the bench coach for Boston.

That said, I'm fine there's back. There'll be complete continuity between last year and this year. Hopefjully Washington will stick around as third-base coach, but I won't be mad if he moves on to bigger things.

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