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""Brooks Was Here" *hangs self* (c) Shawshank (jets - saints)"


  

          

this season is the halfway house.

*Jews you*

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Saints 79- Jets -248
Nov 27th 2005
1
points or injuries?
Nov 27th 2005
4
why espn picked this game up, i have no clue
Nov 27th 2005
2
that decision was made before the season started
Nov 27th 2005
3
The NFL gave it to them so
Nov 27th 2005
5
Get busy living or get busy dying.
Nov 27th 2005
6
basically
Nov 27th 2005
7
there is a place called Hope, that they cant take away
Nov 27th 2005
8
we cant block for shit
Nov 27th 2005
9
the reggie bush bowl
Nov 27th 2005
10
we aint taking reggie
Nov 27th 2005
11
Goodness this game sucks.....
Nov 27th 2005
12
Aaron Brooks:13% of on-target passes dropped, highest % in the NFL
Nov 27th 2005
13
brooks ranks first for me
Nov 27th 2005
14
RE: brooks ranks first for me
Nov 27th 2005
17
      it would be nice to brooks with the dolphins
Nov 27th 2005
19
      it wasn't a talent comparison n/m
Nov 27th 2005
26
i feel you on that
Nov 27th 2005
15
who is 2nd? and who tracks that stat?
Nov 27th 2005
18
      ESPN
Nov 27th 2005
20
nice drive for the saints
Nov 27th 2005
16
brooks is hot tonite
Nov 27th 2005
21
BROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOKS
Nov 27th 2005
22
why did it take me this long to notice Brooks vs. Brooks?
Nov 27th 2005
23
BULL FUCKING SHIT!!!!!!!
Nov 27th 2005
24
BROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOKS
Nov 27th 2005
25
REVIEW THAT, MOTHER BITCHES!!!!!!!
Nov 27th 2005
27
The man is a baller... see what happens when they let him throw?
Nov 27th 2005
28
3 TD passes for AB
Nov 27th 2005
29
goddammit... we almost had it this time... it aint over yet though
Nov 27th 2005
30
now is the time for the WHOO RIDE
Nov 28th 2005
31
JOLLEY IS NOT 100% USELESS!!!!!
Nov 28th 2005
32
Jesus fucking Christ
Nov 28th 2005
33
that was pretty stupid on the saints part
Nov 28th 2005
34
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKK
Nov 28th 2005
35
That dude pulled a Feely.
Nov 28th 2005
36
      eh, 53 yards aint a feely
Nov 28th 2005
38
That was GOD AWFUL playcalling
Nov 28th 2005
37
Somebody check Craig's list
Nov 28th 2005
39
excellent post title. n/m
Nov 28th 2005
40
co fuckin' sign! this shit is a classic post title
Nov 28th 2005
43
yep.
Nov 28th 2005
57
Another fourth quarter comeback victory for A.B.
Nov 28th 2005
41
HE WAS PLAYING THE JETS
Nov 28th 2005
42
In A. Brooks Defense
Nov 28th 2005
44
      this is true, but the point would still hold more water if it was agains...
Nov 28th 2005
45
He's not #2 among active QB's in fourth quarter comebacks
Nov 28th 2005
48
      He was up until a few weeks ago.
Nov 28th 2005
49
           nah, that was most comebacks since 2001
Nov 28th 2005
50
                Thanks, sparky.
Nov 28th 2005
52
                     No problem, chester.
Nov 28th 2005
55
                          You win, Mendel.
Nov 28th 2005
56
                               as per usual, stan.
Nov 28th 2005
58
                                    Great post.
Nov 28th 2005
59
                                         RE: Great post.
Nov 29th 2005
61
Brooks was rifling that ball last night.
Nov 28th 2005
46
in this post, you need to specify which brooks
Nov 28th 2005
47
Sam, we still on for the draft?
Nov 28th 2005
51
i might be down to go to the draft, i'll have a better idea in April
Nov 28th 2005
53
      and we are still gonna beat the dolphins
Nov 28th 2005
54
           if they hadnt fucked up that snap...
Nov 28th 2005
60

Frank Longo
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1. "Saints 79- Jets -248"
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4. "points or injuries?"
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*Jews you*

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2. "why espn picked this game up, i have no clue"
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3. "that decision was made before the season started"
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when pennington was alive

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5. "The NFL gave it to them so"
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as few people as possible would have to listen to Paul Maguire.

  

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6. "Get busy living or get busy dying."
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*crawls into corner & dies*

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7. "basically"
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8. "there is a place called Hope, that they cant take away"
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*Jews you*

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KosherSam
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9. "we cant block for shit"
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but i suppose thats expected when the two best linemen are in street clothes

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10. "the reggie bush bowl"
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i hope joe horn hid an ipod in one of the end zone goalposts

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11. "we aint taking reggie"
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12. "Goodness this game sucks....."
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I just need the Saints defense to mollywop the Jets, thats all I ask.....



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13. "Aaron Brooks:13% of on-target passes dropped, highest % in the NFL"
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14. "brooks ranks first for me"
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on the list of NFL QBs i'd like to reevaluate with a competent coach.

1. brooks
2. carr
3. harrington

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17. "RE: brooks ranks first for me"
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>on the list of NFL QBs i'd like to reevaluate with a
>competent coach.
>
>1. brooks
>2. carr
>3. harrington


Those other 2 guys shouldn't be mentioned in the same sentence. Brooks has actually shown that he can play.

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19. "it would be nice to brooks with the dolphins"
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i think he's the qb that team needs

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26. "it wasn't a talent comparison n/m"
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>Those other 2 guys shouldn't be mentioned in the same
>sentence. Brooks has actually shown that he can play.

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15. "i feel you on that"
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dude gets no respect

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18. "who is 2nd? and who tracks that stat?"
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20. "ESPN"
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16. "nice drive for the saints"
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21. "brooks is hot tonite"
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but its against the jets.nice throw to hilton though

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22. "BROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOKS"
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LET THE MAN THROW DOWN THE FIELD AND THATS WHAT HAPPENS!!!!!

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23. "why did it take me this long to notice Brooks vs. Brooks?"
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24. "BULL FUCKING SHIT!!!!!!!"
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25. "BROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOKS"
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27. "REVIEW THAT, MOTHER BITCHES!!!!!!!"
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28. "The man is a baller... see what happens when they let him throw?"
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29. "3 TD passes for AB"
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30. "goddammit... we almost had it this time... it aint over yet though"
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31. "now is the time for the WHOO RIDE"
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lets go brooks

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32. "JOLLEY IS NOT 100% USELESS!!!!!"
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*Jews you*

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33. "Jesus fucking Christ"
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34. "that was pretty stupid on the saints part"
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we were running around with the clock ticking....

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35. "FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKK"
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36. "That dude pulled a Feely."
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38. "eh, 53 yards aint a feely"
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37. "That was GOD AWFUL playcalling"
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first the run play, then a 3 yard out? WTF

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39. "Somebody check Craig's list"
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I'm sure they will be an ad placed in or around New York for able bodied kickers.

  

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40. "excellent post title. n/m"
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43. "co fuckin' sign! this shit is a classic post title"
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57. "yep."
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when the season sucks that bad you must be clever

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41. "Another fourth quarter comeback victory for A.B."
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Not only is he #2 amongst active QBs in fourth quarter comebacks, he has played with the most consistently bad defenses over the the past four seasons of any starter(avg 25th), is tops in the league in dropped passes by his WRs, and is holder of the longest streak of passes thrown without an interception of any active QB(He did it in 2003, the last time he had a solid, complete football team), also one of the 5 longest streaks in league history.

The guy is good.

The worst year of his career, by far, but there aren't 5 QBs in the league who are better pure throwers of the football when on. Perfect throwing motion, perfect spirals, and (believe it or not) very accurate.

Too bad he'll be backing up guys he's better than for the rest of his career after this season. That is of course unless fairness enters the picture, in which case he'll be signed to a 6 Yr/42 million dollar contract to start for a team far better than the Saints(Jake Plummer signed for that amount with the Denver, after playing infinitely worse in Arizona than Brooks has ever played in N.O.)

Oh well.




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42. "HE WAS PLAYING THE JETS"
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slow down

*Jews you*

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44. "In A. Brooks Defense"
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The Jets are ranked 4th against the pass...so it's not like Aaron Brooks was beating a team that has a piss poor defense.

If he ran for Vick-like yardage, then you can say HE WAS PLAYING THE JETS

(and I'm a Jets fan...man this is painful)

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45. "this is true, but the point would still hold more water if it was agains..."
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a playoff team

*Jews you*

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48. "He's not #2 among active QB's in fourth quarter comebacks"
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>Not only is he #2 amongst active QBs in fourth quarter
>comebacks, he has played with the most consistently bad
>defenses over the the past four seasons of any starter(avg
>25th),

And actually Trent Green has played with worse defenses the past 4 seasons (and yes I know he's also played with one of the best offenses, I'm just clarifying)

>
>Too bad he'll be backing up guys he's better than for the rest
>of his career after this season. That is of course unless
>fairness enters the picture, in which case he'll be signed to
>a 6 Yr/42 million dollar contract to start for a team far
>better than the Saints(Jake Plummer signed for that amount
>with the Denver, after playing infinitely worse in Arizona
>than Brooks has ever played in N.O.)

Uh, Brooks is not going to be a backup next year.

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49. "He was up until a few weeks ago."
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You're the google wizard. Correcteth me.

>And actually Trent Green has played with worse defenses the
>past 4 seasons (and yes I know he's also played with one of
>the best offenses, I'm just clarifying)

Glad you caught yourself. Well done.

>Uh, Brooks is not going to be a backup next year.

Oh no, like I said, if there is any fairness in the world, he'll be signed to an extension, or signed to play for a better team with a great offensive system.

But I've heard N.O. is in the Leinart sweepstakes. Leinart is ready to start. If Aaron is still in town, he'll be benched(would be a travesty, of course).


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50. "nah, that was most comebacks since 2001"
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not most among active QB's.

>You're the google wizard. Correcteth me.

LOL - Done and done.

>Glad you caught yourself. Well done.

No, I caught your mistake. I'm just stating that I realize they're not really in comparable situations, but you were wrong regardless.

>Oh no, like I said, if there is any fairness in the world,
>he'll be signed to an extension, or signed to play for a
>better team with a great offensive system.
>
>But I've heard N.O. is in the Leinart sweepstakes. Leinart is
>ready to start. If Aaron is still in town, he'll be
>benched(would be a travesty, of course).

Well if they sign Leinart there's no way Brooks stays in NO. Personally I hope he moves either way - I think he'd fit in great in Detroit.

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52. "Thanks, sparky."
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>No, I caught your mistake. I'm just stating that I realize
>they're not really in comparable situations, but you were
>wrong regardless.

Right, and I'm only bringing up Aaron Brooks' defense within the context of his entire situation, in which case your conjuring of Trent Green was wrong for the reasons you pointed out -- their situations aren't comparable.

Like I said, good job catching yourself.


>Well if they sign Leinart there's no way Brooks stays in NO.
>Personally I hope he moves either way - I think he'd fit in
>great in Detroit.

Lol.

Ever see Charlie Batch's career TD-Int ratio while in Detroit?

They benched him in Detroit for a bad game, put in Ty Detmer who went on to break the NFL record for interceptions thrown in a single game(that following Sunday).

But I agree -- Brooks would fit in good in Detroit.

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55. "No problem, chester."
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>Right, and I'm only bringing up Aaron Brooks' defense within
>the context of his entire situation, in which case your
>conjuring of Trent Green was wrong for the reasons you pointed
>out -- their situations aren't comparable.
>
>Like I said, good job catching yourself.

Like I said, there was nothing to catch except your mistakes. You made 2 incorrect statements in your defense of Aaron Brooks - I simply corrected those mistakes, and clarified that I understood that within the context of his entire situation he's still in a worse position than Trent Green... but that doesn't make your statement any less incorrect.


>Lol.
>
>Ever see Charlie Batch's career TD-Int ratio while in Detroit?

Again with Charlie Batch? LOL.

Ever see Scott Mitchell's career TD-Int ratio while in Detroit? It was better than Batch's. Yet...

>They benched him in Detroit for a bad game, put in Ty Detmer
>who went on to break the NFL record for interceptions thrown
>in a single game(that following Sunday).

... they benched Mitchell in Detroit for a bad game and put in Charlie Batch a few years before that.


>But I agree -- Brooks would fit in good in Detroit.
>
>There is that Matt Millen problem, tho.

Yeah Millen is a colossal moron, but the handwriting is on the wall with Harrington in Detroit, even with that idiot running the ship.

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56. "You win, Mendel."
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I don't want none.

>Like I said, there was nothing to catch except your mistakes.
>You made 2 incorrect statements in your defense of Aaron
>Brooks - I simply corrected those mistakes, and clarified
>that I understood that within the context of his entire
>situation he's still in a worse position than Trent Green...
>but that doesn't make your statement any less incorrect.

Right, so you understood that my conjuring of Brooks statistics at all was for the purpose of describing the various obstacles that Brooks has been faced with over the years, the poor defenses he plays with being but one.

Initially you incorrectly brought up the Trent Green comparison, but because you "understood that within the context of his entire situation" Aaron Brooks is "...still in a worse position than Trent Green" you recognize that it is a bad comparison.

I was running the statistics off-hand and was admittedly hand-waving. My overall point was 100% right, which again, is why you argued with yourself within your own post, with the product being your agreement with me.


>Ever see Scott Mitchell's career TD-Int ratio while in
>Detroit? It was better than Batch's. Yet...

Yeah, you're not too sharp.

I brought up Batch to highlight how Detroit makes bad decisions with quarterbacks. Nothing more.

You felt the need to dig up a Scott Mitchell comparison which is just....special.

As to your comparison, feel free to not mention those two confounding factors that inflate Scott Mitchell's numbers and piss on the Batch-Mitchell comparison known as the:

a)Run and Shoot offense(featuring Perrimen and Herman Moore)

and

b)That Sanders, Barry guy(Batch got a single season of Barry). Mitchell handed the ball to him during Barry's record breaking season.


But please -- no diversion-o. The Mitchell argument is irrelevant from jump.

So not only did you bring up an irrelevant example, its also wrong and terrible, even if we were comparing the two.


>Yeah Millen is a colossal moron, but the handwriting is on the
>wall with Harrington in Detroit, even with that idiot running
>the ship.

Millen has found a way to manufacture bad decisions before. I see no reason why sense should infiltrate the situation now.

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58. "as per usual, stan."
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>Initially you incorrectly brought up the Trent Green
>comparison, but because you "understood that within the
>context of his entire situation" Aaron Brooks is "...still in
>a worse position than Trent Green" you recognize that it is a
>bad comparison.

No. Initially, you incorrectly stated that Brooks has played with the most consistently bad defenses over the the past four seasons of any starter. I made no comparison; I simply corrected your mistake, and added a disclaimer to clarify that I was NOT making a comparison.

>I was running the statistics off-hand and was admittedly
>hand-waving.

As you usually do. Nice to see you admit it for a change.

> My overall point was 100% right, which again, is
>why you argued with yourself within your own post, with the
>product being your agreement with me.

I neither argued with your overall point or with myself, I simply corrected your erroneous off-hand hand-waving statistics.

>I brought up Batch to highlight how Detroit makes bad
>decisions with quarterbacks. Nothing more.

Please. You inferred that Brooks would be relegated to a backup after this season because he's black, and you brought up the exact same Batch argument in a race card debate before.

>You felt the need to dig up a Scott Mitchell comparison which
>is just....special.

No, you felt the need to dig up a Charlie Batch comparison which is just... retarded.

>As to your comparison, feel free to not mention those two
>confounding factors that inflate Scott Mitchell's numbers and
>piss on the Batch-Mitchell comparison known as the:
>
>a)Run and Shoot offense(featuring Perrimen and Herman Moore)

And feel free not to mention that Mitchell accordingly put up huge passing numbers with that offense: 4,300+ yards & 32 TD/12 Int.

Also feel free not to mention that Mitchell played as well in Miami as Batch ever did, without the run & shoot or Barry.

>b)That Sanders, Barry guy(Batch got a single season of Barry).

... and Batch didn't produce any better in his season with Barry than Mitchell did in his season with Mark Higgs.

>But please -- no diversion-o. The Mitchell argument is
>irrelevant from jump.

No, the Batch argument was irrelevant from jump; the Mitchell argument just explains why.


>Millen has found a way to manufacture bad decisions before. I
>see no reason why sense should infiltrate the situation now.
>
>*shrugs*

Because Detroit is going to make a change at QB next year. The fans and media in Detroit are screaming for the head of Joey Harrington, and the Lions have already benched him for Garcia for a few games this year. Like I said, the handwriting is on the wall. So if NO dumps Brooks Detroit could pick him up, and it seems like it would be a good fit. That's all I'm saying.

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59. "Great post."
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Mon Nov-28-05 09:08 PM by Orbit_Established

  

          

Fabulous work.

>I neither argued with your overall point or with myself, I
>simply corrected your erroneous off-hand hand-waving
>statistics.

Yeah, I was off by a fraction of a percent on that one statistic. My fault. I generally don't have time to google when I'm on these boards.

But like you just alluded to, you're not arguing with my central point because my central argument is perfectly sound.

You just felt the need to display your googling supremacy in a poor effort at trying to one-up-Orbit.

Here's a tip:

One up Orbit by actually refuting his overall point. That isn't very do-able. Might even be impossible, so I understand why you're doing what you're doing. Its the next best thing.

But dog, you can have the "number-crunching" title.


I'll take the "head nigga in charge" title.


In fact, its a testament to my brilliance that my hand-wavy, faint memories of certain statistics fit the same global arguments as your google.com references of certain statistics. Think about it.


I'm nice like that.


>Please. You inferred that Brooks would be relegated to a
>backup after this season because he's black, and you brought
>up the exact same Batch argument in a race card debate before.


Thanks, Professor Feynman, but knowing Phy-sics is different than being a Psy-chic.


Why don't you break out the Tarot Cards and find out how I really feel about the world.


Firstly, I sincerely do not think Brooks will be a backup next year, as he certainly does not deserve to be, for the very reasons you agree with, that I stated earlier.


In fact, I'm confident that he'll get the Jake Plummer treatment and get lifted out of a bad situation into a better one. If it doesn't happen, well then....


Secondly, I find the Detroit Lions a laughing-stock franchise as a whole, both inclusive and independent of how they handle matters of race. This is why I mentioned Matt Millen when exclaiming suspicion at your suggestion -- not because I think Millen is a bigot, but because I think Millen is an IDIOT.

Look yourself in the soul and tell yourself it don't make sense.

Of course it does.


And seriously,


As effective as I am at my far reaching race-cards, having proven them in everything from Madden 06 to Pulp Fiction, I wouldn't actually make the argument that because the Detroit Lions had a black QB once and benched him half a decade ago, that means they wouldn't seek to sign a super-talented black quarterback who would be a good fit today.


I was making a facetious poke at how the Detroit Lions treated their last franchise caliber quarterback who performed well....in fact....I actually put more emphasis in the Ty Detmer part of the equation than the Charlie Batch part, to emphasize that the Detroit Lions make poor decisions as a whole....pointing out the irony in the Detmer situation.


>And feel free not to mention that Mitchell accordingly put up
>huge passing numbers with that offense: 4,300+ yards & 32
>TD/12 Int.

Uh. I'm not saying anything negative about Scott Mitchell. I have no opinion whatsoever about Scott Mitchell.

I'm saying that Scott Mitchell's Detroit Lions were different than Erik Kramer's, or Charlie Batch's, or Jeff Garcia's, or Joey Harrington's Detroit Lions, and so comparing them or their statistics side by side is fucking stupid and retarded.

You brought up Mitchell to fight the idea that the Detroit Lions "only bench black QBs" or "only treat black QBs bad" which would be beautiful if I had said anything close enough to even build such a strawman around.

Hell, mentioning the benching of Scott Mitchell wouldn't weigh in on why benching Charlie Batch wasn't racist, even if I *was* making the Straw_Orbit argument of "the Detroit Lions dislike negroes."

I mean seriously.


A more effective way for me to win the Detroit/racism argument would be for me to simply mention that they are the first team to be punished for the breaking the rule requiring the interview of a minority candidate.

Detroit supporters would say that they didn't interview anyone else because they knew who they wanted(Mooch). Smart people would say the lack of consideration of a black candidate from jump is part of the problem.

You, nor anyone else would have a retort. You could try, but my argument would be strong.


But I'm actually talking about the shitty Detroit Lion front office in *this* post, which again, is why I mentioned Matt Millen.


Debate that.



>Also feel free not to mention that Mitchell played as well in
>Miami as Batch ever did, without the run & shoot or Barry.


Mention to me what Scott Mitchell and the Miami Dolphins has to do with Matt Millen being an idiot.


I'm listening.

>... and Batch didn't produce any better in his season with
>Barry than Mitchell did in his season with Mark Higgs.

See: Year, Rookie.

Peyton Manning had Marshall Faulk and Marvin Harrison and wasn't much(if at all) more impressive his rookie year in Indianapolis as Batch was with Sanders(Sanders had an off year by his standards) in Detroit.

But its fun to see you mask an overall non-argument with googling skills, and a side debate about who was better in Detroit: Scott Mitchell or Charlie Batch, and its implications for the non-existence of racism in Detroit.

Remember the argument I originally made?

How about that one?

You see....you actually agree with that one, because well....I'm Orbit_Established, and I'm right.


>Because Detroit is going to make a change at QB next year. The
>fans and media in Detroit are screaming for the head of Joey
>Harrington, and the Lions have already benched him for Garcia
>for a few games this year. Like I said, the handwriting is on
>the wall. So if NO dumps Brooks Detroit could pick him up, and
>it seems like it would be a good fit. That's all I'm saying.

Yo essay -- I don't disagree with this point.

Not even a little bit.

I could simply say that suggesting such a fit will happen is a wee bit premature, especially when you consider guys like Matt Schaub will be as hot, or hotter, commodities on the free agent market than Aaron Brooks will be.

But I'm not even going to argue that, because...well...what the fuck are we arguing again?


Dog, like I said.

If you don't like the god, let's just box one day.


But this gay following me around trying to correct me by fractions of percentage points when my global argument is not only harmless, but strong as fuck, is just hoe like.

We both in the tri-state. If a nigga don't like me....come and giddit.

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61. "RE: Great post."
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>Yeah, I was off by a fraction of a percent on that one
>statistic. My fault. I generally don't have time to google
>when I'm on these boards.
>
>But like you just alluded to, you're not arguing with my
>central point because my central argument is perfectly sound.
>
>
>You just felt the need to display your googling supremacy in a
>poor effort at trying to one-up-Orbit.
>
>Here's a tip:
>
>One up Orbit by actually refuting his overall point. That
>isn't very do-able. Might even be impossible, so I understand
>why you're doing what you're doing. Its the next best thing.
>
>But dog, you can have the "number-crunching" title.
>
>
>I'll take the "head nigga in charge" title.
>
>
>In fact, its a testament to my brilliance that my hand-wavy,
>faint memories of certain statistics fit the same global
>arguments as your google.com references of certain statistics.
>Think about it.
>
>
>I'm nice like that.

... in other words, you were wrong. Nice 500 word expository essay on that simple point though.


>Thanks, Professor Feynman, but knowing Phy-sics is different
>than being a Psy-chic.
>
>
>Why don't you break out the Tarot Cards and find out how I
>really feel about the world.

Thanks, Herr Heisenberg, but pseudoscientific nonsense is your thing, not mine.

>Firstly, I sincerely do not think Brooks will be a backup next
>year, as he certainly does not deserve to be, for the very
>reasons you agree with, that I stated earlier.

Ah, so what you originally wrote was insincere. Thanks for clarifying that.

>In fact, I'm confident that he'll get the Jake Plummer
>treatment and get lifted out of a bad situation into a better
>one. If it doesn't happen, well then....

If you are confident of that then WTF were you even talking about to begin with?

>Secondly, I find the Detroit Lions a laughing-stock franchise
>as a whole, both inclusive and independent of how they handle
>matters of race. This is why I mentioned Matt Millen when
>exclaiming suspicion at your suggestion -- not because I think
>Millen is a bigot, but because I think Millen is an IDIOT.
>
>Look yourself in the soul and tell yourself it don't make
>sense.
>
>Of course it does.

Uh, I didn't suggest that it's a sure thing Millen will aquire Brooks, I simply said that I think Brooks would fit in great in Detroit. Stop making up arguments that don't exist.

>As effective as I am at my far reaching race-cards, having
>proven them in everything from Madden 06 to Pulp Fiction,

Oh yeah - so how's Brooks' awareness looking compared to Bledsoe's now again? LOL

>I was making a facetious poke at how the Detroit Lions treated
>their last franchise caliber quarterback who performed
>well....in fact....I actually put more emphasis in the Ty
>Detmer part of the equation than the Charlie Batch part, to
>emphasize that the Detroit Lions make poor decisions as a
>whole....pointing out the irony in the Detmer situation.

I'm sorry, I didn't catch the rest of that - I was laughing too hard after the part about Charlie Batch being a franchise caliber quarterback.

>Uh. I'm not saying anything negative about Scott Mitchell. I
>have no opinion whatsoever about Scott Mitchell.

Funny, you had an opinion of him last time we had this same debate.

>I'm saying that Scott Mitchell's Detroit Lions were different
>than Erik Kramer's, or Charlie Batch's, or Jeff Garcia's, or
>Joey Harrington's Detroit Lions, and so comparing them or
>their statistics side by side is fucking stupid and retarded.

Uh, I only compared the stat you brought up, TD-Int ratio; the Run & Shoot offense inflates number totals, not TD-Int ratio. Nice try though.

>You brought up Mitchell to fight the idea that the Detroit
>Lions "only bench black QBs" or "only treat black QBs bad"
>which would be beautiful if I had said anything close enough
>to even build such a strawman around.

Uh, that was precisely your argument the last time you made the same exact Charlie Batch argument.


>Hell, mentioning the benching of Scott Mitchell wouldn't weigh
>in on why benching Charlie Batch wasn't racist, even if I
>*was* making the Straw_Orbit argument of "the Detroit Lions
>dislike negroes."
>
>I mean seriously.

They were both benched by the same team under the same circumstances just a few years apart, and in the first case a white QB was benched for a black QB. So crying racism, which you in fact did the last time you made this exact same argument, doesn't wash.

>A more effective way for me to win the Detroit/racism argument
>would be for me to simply mention that they are the first team
>to be punished for the breaking the rule requiring the
>interview of a minority candidate.
>
>Detroit supporters would say that they didn't interview anyone
>else because they knew who they wanted(Mooch). Smart people
>would say the lack of consideration of a black candidate from
>jump is part of the problem.
>
>You, nor anyone else would have a retort. You could try, but
>my argument would be strong.

And this has to do with Charlie Batch how?

>But I'm actually talking about the shitty Detroit Lion front
>office in *this* post, which again, is why I mentioned Matt
>Millen.
>
>
>Debate that.

And I said Millen & the Lions front office wasn't shitty when?


>Mention to me what Scott Mitchell and the Miami Dolphins has
>to do with Matt Millen being an idiot.
>
>
>I'm listening.

No, you're just flapping your jaws, because that has nothing to do with what I said.


>>... and Batch didn't produce any better in his season with
>>Barry than Mitchell did in his season with Mark Higgs.
>
>See: Year, Rookie.

See: Starting, First Year.


>Peyton Manning had Marshall Faulk and Marvin Harrison and
>wasn't much(if at all) more impressive his rookie year in
>Indianapolis as Batch was with Sanders(Sanders had an off year
>by his standards) in Detroit.

And this has to do with Mitchell vs. Batch how?


>But its fun to see you mask an overall non-argument with
>googling skills,

LOL - why don't you google up another spectrographic analysis of apples and oranges to mask your overall non-argument - now THAT was some funny shit.

>and a side debate about who was better in
>Detroit: Scott Mitchell or Charlie Batch, and its implications
>for the non-existence of racism in Detroit.

Who brought up a side debate about Charlie Batch? Oh.

>Remember the argument I originally made?
>
>How about that one?

Who brought up Charlie Batch again? Oh.

>Yo essay -- I don't disagree with this point.
>
>Not even a little bit.

Well that's all I originally said, so what the fuck is you beefin about?

>I could simply say that suggesting such a fit will happen is a
>wee bit premature, especially when you consider guys like Matt
>Schaub will be as hot, or hotter, commodities on the free
>agent market than Aaron Brooks will be.

Did I say "Detroit will be hotly pursuing Aaron Brooks as their top priority this off-season?" No. I simply said "I think Brooks would fit in great in Detroit."


>Dog, like I said.
>
>If you don't like the god, let's just box one day.

Your arms too short to box with god.

>But this gay following me around trying to correct me by
>fractions of percentage points when my global argument is not
>only harmless, but strong as fuck, is just hoe like.

LOL - that's pretty funny coming from you, stalker boy. And incidentally I was in this post first, seeing as unlike you I'm actually a Jets fan, whereas you only came in here to suck off Aaron Brooks. But here's a novel idea: stop slurping off your athlete man-crushes with wrong and/or stupid arguments, and I won't have to correct you on them.

>We both in the tri-state. If a nigga don't like me....come and
>giddit.
>
>Serious.

LOL - I already made you cry online, I don't want to make you cry in real life too.

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46. "Brooks was rifling that ball last night."
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He looked pretty fleet of foot as well. And he was making good decisions on the fly.

He didn't have a fumble with noone touching him either.

He's thrown more TD's than anyone in Saints history.

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47. "in this post, you need to specify which brooks"
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our brooks was looking quite swift as well

*Jews you*

"this is okp tho, reading is completely optional" (c) desus

Proceed with caution. I am overtly racist.

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BossPJ
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51. "Sam, we still on for the draft?"
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lol i watched the first half of this before i went to the movies to see the johnny cash flick. not bad, by the way.

i told you a few weeks ago. we could very well have the #1 pick. if we can't beat the saints at home, we can't beat anyone.

  

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53. "i might be down to go to the draft, i'll have a better idea in April"
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texans are still getting #1 overall

*Jews you*

"this is okp tho, reading is completely optional" (c) desus

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KosherSam
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54. "and we are still gonna beat the dolphins"
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thats just the way the world works

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60. "if they hadnt fucked up that snap..."
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Mon Nov-28-05 08:47 PM by guru0509

  

          

theres no doubt my boy Mike Nugent would have put that ball through the upright.. to see one of the greatest kickers in OSU history come up short like that by inches is just disappointing...cut whoever snapped that ball...

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