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"2000/01 Ravens vs. 2001/02 Rams"


  

          

Think B-mores defense can mess with that offense?


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RE: 2000/01 Ravens vs. 2001/02 Rams
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RE: 2000/01 Ravens vs. 2001/02 Rams
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      RE: 2000/01 Ravens vs. 2001/02 Rams
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           RE: 2000/01 Ravens vs. 2001/02 Rams
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RE: 2000/01 Ravens vs. 2001/02 Rams
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but
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RE: 2000/01 Ravens vs. 2001/02 Rams
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RE: 2000/01 Ravens vs. 2001/02 Rams
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To beat the rams you have
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      I'd be wrong if there was a team
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      RE: I'd be wrong if there was a team
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      RE: To beat the rams you have
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           RE: To beat the rams you have
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                don't use that SB as an example
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                     RE: don't use that SB as an example
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RE: 2000/01 Ravens vs. 2001/02 Rams
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A carbon copy of the Giants-Rams this year
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RE: Rams
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rams.
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DonKnutts
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1. "RE: 2000/01 Ravens vs. 2001/02 Rams"
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I think the Rams would handle them with ease.

  

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2. "RE: 2000/01 Ravens vs. 2001/02 Rams"
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I disagree, not with the defense they were playing. Would've been like 3 to 4 picks. Next.

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3. "RE: 2000/01 Ravens vs. 2001/02 Rams"
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that Ravens team was like Mike Tyson. they just bullied everyone into believing that they were unbeatable. once someone actually stood up to them, they were proven to be frauds. Rams easily.
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4. "RE: 2000/01 Ravens vs. 2001/02 Rams"
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The intimidation factor!

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5. "RE: 2000/01 Ravens vs. 2001/02 Rams"
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the ravens woulda shut them down like they did everyone else, rams wouldn't score more than 10 points

  

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6. "but"
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Trent Dilfer and the Ravens might only score 3 points. Aeneas Williams is no Jason Sehorn.

  

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7. "RE: 2000/01 Ravens vs. 2001/02 Rams"
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The Rams would kill them. The Ravens were a miracle to even get there. The Sharpe deflected touchdown in the Denver game, Al Del Greco blowing the Tennessee game, Siragusa late hitting Gannon, and falling on him with his fat ass in the Oakland game-leaving the Raiders with Bobby Hoying, two touchdown returns and Kerry Collins' pathetic ass somehow making it to the Super Bowl. Not to mention that they snuck through everyone that season who didn't realize they were a team worth worrying about until it was too late while St.Louis has had a target on their back all year and only lost twice. The Ravens are as

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9. "RE: 2000/01 Ravens vs. 2001/02 Rams"
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The
>Ravens are as big a fraud as their pompous ass coach who still can't put an offense together.



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8. "To beat the rams you have"
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to

(1) Score more than 21 points. I don't care who the defense is. '85 Bears. Dolphins no name. '75 Steelers. The Rams are putting up at least 20 points on anybody.

(2) This years Rams defense is excellent. They would make it tuff for the Ravens to score.


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12. "RE: To beat the rams you have"
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21 points on the 85 Bears? Surely you jest. That comment runs along the lines of the Ravens saying they could dominate Jim Brown. 3 times the Rams were held to 17 points or less in regulation. And Jason Sehorn was part of the Giants team that held the Rams to 15 points this year. On the St. Louie turf.

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13. "I'd be wrong if there was a team"
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that BEAT the rams scoring 21 points. Since the Giants did not win that game I don't understand why they're are even being brought up. None of the times you mentioned that they were held under 17 were games that they lost.

  

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15. "RE: I'd be wrong if there was a team"
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They did lose one, to Tampa Bay at home. And although Tampa scored more than 20 points, the fact that 3 teams held them under 20 points makes your "they're gonna get at least 20" point moot. It means you could score less than 20 and still beat them if you had a great defense.

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14. "RE: To beat the rams you have"
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>21 points on the 85 Bears?
> Surely you jest.
>That comment runs along the
>lines of the Ravens saying
>they could dominate Jim Brown.
> 3 times the Rams
>were held to 17 points
>or less in regulation.
>And Jason Sehorn was part
>of the Giants team that
>held the Rams to 15
>points this year. On
>the St. Louie turf.

If Marino and the Dolphins could score more than 21 points on the
Bears with no running game you don't think the Rams with Marshall
Faulk could score 21 on them?



  

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16. "RE: To beat the rams you have"
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>If Marino and the Dolphins could
>score more than 21 points
>on the
>Bears with no running game you
>don't think the Rams with
>Marshall
>Faulk could score 21 on them?
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No. Not in a Super Bowl situation. The 1-15 Carolina Panthers put 32 on the Rams. You can't judge a team on one isolated day. I mean, that Bears defense was ferocious. In the Super Bowl they held the Patriots to NEGATIVE yards until they had scored 30. At halftime the Pats had -11 yards! Incredible. Dan Hampton and Richard Dent would've found a way to Kurt Warner. People forget how great some teams were.

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17. "don't use that SB as an example"
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That 86 Patriots team was one of the worst SB teams in recent memory. C'mon. Tony Eason and Steve Grogan? Craig James?

  

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18. "RE: don't use that SB as an example"
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It was still the Super Bowl. It's not like the Patriots got there cuz ppl laid down for them. I'm not even saying they were good, but they had to win playoff games and that is not easy in the NFL. If ppl wanna say the Dolphins scored 21 on the Bears and were a lesser offensive team than the Rams, I'll give them that. But I would argue that the Giants and Bucs held St. Louis to under 20 points and they were lesser defensive teams than the Bears.

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10. "RE: 2000/01 Ravens vs. 2001/02 Rams"
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You can't even really compare them until they win the Super Bowl. There have been plenty of great teams that didn't win the big one. I would say that Rams O-line is a little overrated and the Ravens would give them a very physical game, witness the trouble the Saints have given them. The Giants had a very comparable defense to that of the Rams last year, and the Ravens put 34 on them. The Rams could definitely have had trouble with a healthy Jamal Lewis since their interior defense is not that strong vs. the run. Tampa Bay's offense (eech!) put 20 on them this year, didn't they? Another thing, the Rams special teams aren't great(2 KO ret. for TD) and Allen Rossum was about to embarass them again. Jermaine Lewis is about as good as they get. And if you don't think special teams are important you should ask the Steelers.

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11. "A carbon copy of the Giants-Rams this year"
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Except the Ravens come out on top.

Three Lewises.

Ray makes it a quiet day for Marshall Faulk, Jamal eats up clock and breaks one, and Jermaine brings one back for a TD.

Something like 19-14, Baltimore.

  

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19. "RE: Rams"
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The teams last year that the Ravens smashed had similar characteristics, all of which play directly into the Ravens strength on defense.

The Broncos, Titans, Raiders, and Giants were primarily run teams. Their running style was not of speed, but was rather one of north and south. A type of running "o" that play directly into the Ravens strength.

Once the Ravens shut down the running game. They focused on shutting down the passing game. While McNair and Gannon are good at eluding pressure, they did not have really speedy big play receivers. Tim Brown is more of a possession type receiver. With no big play threat receivers, all the Ravens had to do was keep everything in front of them. Run the ball, and play good special teams. In fact, Kyle Richardson in the playoffs continued to pin the opposing teams within the 20 and mostly 10 yard line.

Fast forward to this year: the Packers. The Packers spread the Ravens out with 3,4,5 receiver sets. Brett Favre is the best at eluding pressure and making the pass on the run. Plus, he can squeeze the ball into little cracks. The Packers had favorable matchups and softened the Ravens with the pass.

Hypothetically, the Rams would pose a huge problem because of their speed. Yes, the Ravens would be physical with the receivers, but who would cover or keep up with Faulk. Even with nickel or dime packages, the Ravens do not have the speed to keep up.

Rams would win but not by much. The Ravens intimidation and physical factor would pose problems for Warner and the receivers, but the speed and matchups are too great.

  

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20. "rams."
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the ravens weren't the best team in their own division last year, let alone the nfl, while the 2001 rams are definitely the best team in football. shit, even if the pats pull off the shocker, i still think the rams would scorch the ravens -- look what green bay did to the ravens this year by spreading the field with four-receiver sets.


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