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FromTheGo
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"Poll question: Let's be honest...Who is the better PG right now!"


  

          

To hell with all these intangibles and future potentials and plea cop mumbo jumbo...

Who is the better shooter?
Who is the better passer?
Who would you feel confident leading your team to a victory?


Who is the better PG right now? Spice or Ky Ky


I want to put an emphasis on NOW, because if we bring up the past, we would have to mention Spice shooting 48% and 49% from the field, we would have to mention him getting better assist numbers while playing in the backcourt with Monta's inaccurate gunning ass...

So let's talk about now.

2 scoring pg's
2 shooters


Who better?

Poll result (47 votes)
Stephen Curry (23 votes)Vote
Kyrie Irving (24 votes)Vote

  

  

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Perfect timing
Feb 28th 2013
1
http://cdn.7static.com/static/img/sleeveart/00/006/428/0000642869_350.jp...
Feb 28th 2013
19
your hate is despicable
Feb 28th 2013
2
Steph deserves more love.
Feb 28th 2013
5
      lol.
Feb 28th 2013
6
           talking about Monta last year...
Feb 28th 2013
7
blue
Feb 28th 2013
3
dude I hate your avy so much
Feb 28th 2013
4
i think i'd take steph, but probably never again after this season
Feb 28th 2013
8
I really like Steph but Kyrie
Feb 28th 2013
9
Curry is the better shooter but hes average at creating his own shot
Feb 28th 2013
10
You literally haven't watched a minute of Stephen Curry since Davidson
Feb 28th 2013
11
Thats why he got blocked by Felton when he tried to go ISO on him?
Feb 28th 2013
14
      to your credit, you at least watched the last 5 minutes of the game
Feb 28th 2013
16
Yes...NO
Feb 28th 2013
12
holy fucking shit
Feb 28th 2013
13
Wow, you didn't even watch last night's game, much less any other
Feb 28th 2013
15
LOL. This is absolute garbage
Apr 29th 2013
53
jesus fucn christ do some of you enwurds even watch basketball
Apr 29th 2013
57
reading this reply all over again
Nov 03rd 2013
62
lmaooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Nov 05th 2015
71
      Bwahahahahahahahahaaaaa!!!!!!!!
Nov 05th 2015
74
Both of them snapped on the Knicks
Feb 28th 2013
17
me.. jack burton.. that's who.
Feb 28th 2013
18
kyrie has a case as a top 5 guard, steph is clearly a notch below
Feb 28th 2013
20
Let's be real...Rondo doesn't get hurt and Rose doesn't go down
Feb 28th 2013
21
your thread backfired...stop crying, clown
Feb 28th 2013
22
how did it backfire...
Feb 28th 2013
23
      What do you have against David Lee?
Feb 28th 2013
24
      RE: What do you have against David Lee?
Feb 28th 2013
29
           You conveniently left out Jarrett Jack
Feb 28th 2013
37
                RE: You conveniently left out Jarrett Jack
Feb 28th 2013
39
                Now Kyrie has Jarrett Jack #noexcuses
Nov 01st 2013
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                RE: You conveniently left out Jarrett Jack
Mar 27th 2016
84
      and that's a damn PG putting up those nbrs from three
Mar 01st 2013
41
basa is right YOU made this shit
Feb 28th 2013
27
I voted Kyrie but its interesting when you said this
Feb 28th 2013
26
Kyrie's not exactly an iron man.
Feb 28th 2013
28
i think it's more that steph is 4 years older
Feb 28th 2013
31
      yea age too but again the question just asks, right now
Feb 28th 2013
32
      EXACTLY
Feb 28th 2013
33
           1) RIGHT NOW is some pick up ball shit which means nothing
Feb 28th 2013
35
                foh...
Feb 28th 2013
36
                except they play the games RIGHT NOW
Feb 28th 2013
38
      big diff between Steph and ray allen though
Mar 01st 2013
40
      gstate's roster is a lot better, but have they been healthy all season?
Mar 01st 2013
42
wow, breh, just wow
Nov 05th 2015
73
Right today, in a seven game series, its Spice
Feb 28th 2013
25
Right today, Golden State would sweep the Cavs
Feb 28th 2013
30
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5zGkqAWsWE
Feb 28th 2013
34
i tried to find something catchy to say...
Apr 29th 2013
43
you vindicated, huh? lmao...it's gonna be over in 14 days
Apr 29th 2013
44
      Doesnt matter
Apr 29th 2013
45
      kyrie chillin...just like steph did his first 2 years
Apr 29th 2013
47
           while Steph is AVERAGING a double double in the playoffs
Apr 29th 2013
51
                and he'll be home in two weeks
Apr 29th 2013
56
      k
Apr 29th 2013
46
Kyrie is better finisher at the rim n stronger handle
Apr 29th 2013
48
Why go to the rim when you shoot 45% from the field AND from 3
Apr 29th 2013
49
      LOL
Apr 29th 2013
58
can't wait for Michaelangelo Brown to take them to the playoffs
Apr 29th 2013
50
can't wait till Mike Brown moves him to the 2
Apr 29th 2013
52
LMAO.
Apr 29th 2013
55
then put your stowaway in the damn cargo hold lol
Apr 29th 2013
54
one dude is killing the playoffs
May 03rd 2013
59
Lightskinned ngs back in style
Nov 01st 2013
60
RE: Lightskinned ngs back in style
Nov 03rd 2013
63
      You really are gay. Interesting. Make sense, though. n/m
Nov 03rd 2013
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           the "chris cooper in american beauty" of okaysports.
Nov 03rd 2013
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                lmao
Nov 03rd 2013
66
                     Pretty insane
Nov 05th 2015
69
Man I really miss fromthego
Nov 05th 2015
67
The dude made polls about Kyrie vs. *everybody,* dude.
Nov 05th 2015
70
      That's a lot of typing
Nov 05th 2015
75
      lol right
Nov 05th 2015
82
      You realize you're actually replying to the FromtheGo here, right?
Nov 05th 2015
77
           LMAO, no, I didn't. Well that explains a *lot.*
Nov 05th 2015
79
Need to buy some Gob Bluth tees for a few people in here.
Nov 05th 2015
68
I'm very happy to be on the right side of history
Nov 05th 2015
72
i'm very sad bron ain't give ky the ball on the last shot
Nov 05th 2015
76
damn i was way off
Nov 05th 2015
83
Nothing against Kyrie, but some of the replies here are fucking hilariou...
Nov 05th 2015
78
Yeah, that was about as wrong as it gets.
Nov 05th 2015
80
      Haj is a good guy, but completely irriational when it comes to the Dubs
Nov 05th 2015
81
this doesn't count for POOPINCHICAGO, btw
Mar 28th 2016
85
lol
Mar 28th 2016
86

the_time_is_when_god...lounge
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1. "Perfect timing"
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19. "http://cdn.7static.com/static/img/sleeveart/00/006/428/0000642869_350.jp..."
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2. "your hate is despicable"
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FromTheGo
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5. "Steph deserves more love."
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He came to the league, not really a PG at Davidson...


...came in lighting it up from the field and playing with a dominant scorer...

...shooting a phenomenal percentage from the field and from 3...

...lost the top scorer of his team and is leading his team to the playoffs and playing great team ball...



He is doing it how is should be done.




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6. "lol."
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>lost the top scorer of his team and is leading his team to
>the playoffs and playing great team ball...

Lee was only out one game...and they lost. calm down.

  

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7. "talking about Monta last year..."
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Steph is the best player on the team


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3. "blue"
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4. "dude I hate your avy so much"
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8. "i think i'd take steph, but probably never again after this season"
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Thu Feb-28-13 11:27 AM by sndesai1

  

          

kyrie just got it, man
at the age of 20, what he's doing is crazy

note: i'm a warriors fan

  

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9. "I really like Steph but Kyrie"
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But they are so close right now that I'm not sure if either team's records would change much should they switch teams.

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10. "Curry is the better shooter but hes average at creating his own shot"
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Thu Feb-28-13 12:56 PM by haj20

          

and I'm probably giving him too much credit by calling him average.

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11. "You literally haven't watched a minute of Stephen Curry since Davidson"
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Like, not one minute.

He is fabulous at creating his own offense.



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14. "Thats why he got blocked by Felton when he tried to go ISO on him?"
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16. "to your credit, you at least watched the last 5 minutes of the game"
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Thu Feb-28-13 02:11 PM by Amritsar

  

          

enough to see a winded Curry (who played all 48 mins) get blocked, congrats on that, well done


had your attention span been a little longer, and you watched the ENTIRE game you'd see STeph was literally creating his own shots all night


dude was making Felton look .... chubby

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12. "Yes...NO"
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Steph got balls too....

when you have confidence in your J it's a beautiful thing



Stephen Curry is the best shooter in the league right now 45% 46% 90%


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13. "holy fucking shit "
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15. "Wow, you didn't even watch last night's game, much less any other"
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games he's played in.

He spent almost the entire game literally making his own shots.

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53. "LOL. This is absolute garbage "
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And then stating one play to somehow make it valid is even funnier. You couldn't be more wrong.

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57. "jesus fucn christ do some of you enwurds even watch basketball"
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this dude said... never mind... just wow

  

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62. "reading this reply all over again "
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somehow it sounds even fucking dumber the second time around

  

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71. "lmaooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo"
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And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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74. "Bwahahahahahahahahaaaaa!!!!!!!!"
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17. "Both of them snapped on the Knicks "
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Amazing how we still won both times.

  

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18. "me.. jack burton.. that's who."
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20. "kyrie has a case as a top 5 guard, steph is clearly a notch below"
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i'm almost certain kyrie has a string of top 3 mvp years coming. steph has to fight his way into all star games.

  

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21. "Let's be real...Rondo doesn't get hurt and Rose doesn't go down"
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Kyrie would be dreaming of an all star bid this year as well...


it's cool to hype him up, I get it...


but he doesn't shoot better than Spice
he doesn't have better court vision than Spice

he just dribbles better, but Spice will tap them ankles...

neither are defensive stoppers


Spice should get far more credit for the success he is having.


Kyrie couldn't even win with Varejao...all the apologists were on that, but but but he needs better teammates...



A nigga name Festus started more than half of the season for Golden State

Harrison Barnes, Klay Thompson rounded out the starters...

that Golden State team is NOT amazing at all.



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22. "your thread backfired...stop crying, clown"
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Kyrie: I wasn't.


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23. "how did it backfire..."
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this will be revisited come playoffs...



in case you weren't aware

Playoffs are what happens at the end of a season when teams that are good (the top 8 from each conference) get together to see who is the best of the league.

I know you have never seen Kyrie play in one so it may seem like a myth, but they happen every year.



Harrison Barnes will be there in the playoffs with Spice so when they start, you have some motivation to actually watch.




you are watching a thing of beauty with Spice...
any other player shooting 43% his rookie year 44% his second year 45% his third year and 46% this season ( FROM 3) would get praise...

46% 48% 49% and a drop at 44% this season are great numbers from the field


and putting up 6.5 assists to Festus, Harrison, Klay, Dramond and nem...



I mean Kyrie's 6.5 assists a game is good too...

oops, I mean 5.6 (fucking dyslexia)


get your pleas ready for May



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24. "What do you have against David Lee?"
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Besides his not helping your agenda.

Curry is playing with Lee, Jarrett Jack and two youngsters who know their role.

Kyrie's playing alongside Waiters who is figuring out what the hell to do, Tristan Thompson who is the king of the low impact double-double, Tyler Zeller, and Alonzo Gee. And while I respect the shit out of Shaun Livingston for remaining in the league after his injury issues, he's not exactly 6th man material.

Steph deserves more recognition for what he's been doing and Kyrie definitely is in danger of becoming a fun player to watch but not necessarily a winning PG but Steph is most certainly playing on a much better team.

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29. "RE: What do you have against David Lee?"
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>Besides his not helping your agenda.
>

Lee = Anderson...

If Kyrie w/ Anderson was winning most of the games, I wouldn't have an argument...

but when Anderson went down for the season, they were like 5-22


27 games in Golden State were 18-9


with Festus, Barnes, Klay, Spice and Lee in the starting lineup...

AGAIN

Festus, Barnes (rookie), Klay and Lee


>Curry is playing with Lee, Jarrett Jack and two youngsters who
>know their role.
>







>Kyrie's playing alongside Waiters who is figuring out what the
>hell to do,

Barnes is figuring out what the hell to do, Waiters putting up better numbers as a rookie...

somehow Waiters figuring out is worse than Harrison's?????

Tristan Thompson who is the king of the low impact
>double-double,

Festus Ezeli is the king of the low impact NOTHING AT ALL!!!


Tristan is good and early in the season he was low impact and trash, but now he is decent right???

FOH


Tyler Zeller, and Alonzo Gee. And while I
>respect the shit out of Shaun Livingston for remaining in the
>league after his injury issues, he's not exactly 6th man
>material.
>


Golden State has Draymond, (another rook) The ghost of Biedrins, Jeremy Tyler...and some dudes I never heard of...




>Steph deserves more recognition for what he's been doing and
>Kyrie definitely is in danger of becoming a fun player to
>watch but not necessarily a winning PG but Steph is most
>certainly playing on a much better team.




Golden State is not much better... if they ARE better it's because STEPH MAKES THEM BETTER!!!!



Imagine the shit I will talk if Cleveland plays ANOTHER game without Kyrie and pulls off a W



but his team is MUCH WORSE...FOH


Steph - Kyrie
Waiters - Klay
Anderson (Half a season)/Tristan - Lee
Zeller - Ezeli
Barnes - Gee
Speights - Landry
Miles - Green
Livingston - Jefferson



these teams are scrubs but one plays as a team and the other are the Cavs




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37. "You conveniently left out Jarrett Jack"
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who's been HUGE for that team.

Here's the breakdown of the top 8 so far this season.
C: Anderson/Zeller vs Bogut/Festus
PF: Tristan vs. David Lee
SF: Gee vs. Barnes
SG: Waiters/Boobie vs. Klay
PG: Livingston vs. Jack
SF: Miles vs. Jefferson
PF: Speights (15 games)/Luke Walton vs. Carl Landry
F: Luke Walton vs. Draymond Green

Center is the only position that the Warriors are worse at and the benches aren't even close.



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39. "RE: You conveniently left out Jarrett Jack"
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>who's been HUGE for that team.
>
>Here's the breakdown of the top 8 so far this season.
>C: Anderson/Zeller vs Bogut/Festus

Cleveland is MUCH better

>PF: Tristan vs. David Lee

Lee has Tristan faded but Tristan is far from a slouch

>SF: Gee vs. Barnes

I am TEAMBARNES but remind me why is what makes Gee suck in comparison? Their numbers are similar and Gee has put up more points.

Gee has a slight advantage but you could call it a wash

>SG: Waiters/Boobie vs. Klay

Again... Waiters 17.9 and about 4 ast off 41% while trade bait Klay giving you 16 with the same %

advantage Waiters


>PG: Livingston vs. Jack

Advantage Jarret Jack

>SF: Miles vs. Jefferson


Miles in a landslide


>PF: Speights (15 games)/Luke Walton vs. Carl Landry

close to a wash but Landry has been more solid


>F: Luke Walton vs. Draymond Green

advantage Green

>
>Center is the only position that the Warriors are worse at and
>the benches aren't even close.
>


So the Warriors have 3 rookies (2 of which have started most of the season) and Klay with some journeymen and David Lee....and that is much better than Cleveland...

yet Cleveland manages to win without Kyrie...


not buying it.




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61. "Now Kyrie has Jarrett Jack #noexcuses"
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84. "RE: You conveniently left out Jarrett Jack"
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>who's been HUGE for that team.
>
>Here's the breakdown of the top 8 so far this season.
>C: Anderson/Zeller vs Bogut/Festus
>PF: Tristan vs. David Lee
>SF: Gee vs. Barnes
>SG: Waiters/Boobie vs. Klay
>PG: Livingston vs. Jack
>SF: Miles vs. Jefferson
>PF: Speights (15 games)/Luke Walton vs. Carl Landry
>F: Luke Walton vs. Draymond Green
>
>Center is the only position that the Warriors are worse at and
>the benches aren't even close.
>
>
>


Anderson, Livingston are winning with Curry while Walton coaches...

Funny how that worked out.

  

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41. "and that's a damn PG putting up those nbrs from three "
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>you are watching a thing of beauty with Spice...
>any other player shooting 43% his rookie year 44% his second
>year 45% his third year and 46% this season ( FROM 3) would
>get praise...
>



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27. "basa is right YOU made this shit "
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after his best game EVAR in fact.

i LOOVE curry. he was my second pick in survivor despite pre-season ankle scare number 2. kyrie is still better. there are really good guards out there.

and don't even bullshit. it doesn't have shit to do with who was in in the east....kyrie would have definitely made it. rondo was replaced by a dude already. if rose was a factor kyrie still would have been over half of the reserves. if you want to just look at the position he's clearly in over jrue.

  

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26. "I voted Kyrie but its interesting when you said this"
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>i'm almost certain kyrie has a string of top 3 mvp years
>coming. steph has to fight his way into all star games.


I thought about it more and looked into their numbers. Everything is pretty similar from regular to advanced stats. Steph actually beats Kyrie in a lot of categories and has more wins (typical OKS argument)

I think the big argument is Steph's injury proneness.

Kyrie has a big hype machine behind him and I say this in a complimentary way--because its deserved. Whats a better word for hype machine? Just a lot of people love him right now--he's basically hate proof in the media. The only place Ive seen him hated on is this board. Reminds of Blakes rookie year when he could do absolutely no wrong.

Steph in the east mightve gotten that spot over Kyrie because of wins.

Kyrie has a higher ceiling imo but the original post said right now.

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28. "Kyrie's not exactly an iron man."
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If the big argument against Steph is injuries, then Steph wins since Kyrie seems to be just as injury prone so far.

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31. "i think it's more that steph is 4 years older"
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the ankle obviously is a factor

gstate's offensive reputation and underappreciated coaching are factors...and the roster is a lot better. cleveland has a lot of talent but almost no experience. no one on the roster has experience winning other than being open for kobe and bron.

him being the best thing on all star weekend since durant playing horse is a factor

but its mostly about age and upside. steph could still be ray allen good or hall of fame good without winning any mvps.

  

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32. "yea age too but again the question just asks, right now"
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>the ankle obviously is a factor
>
>gstate's offensive reputation and underappreciated coaching
>are factors...and the roster is a lot better. cleveland has a
>lot of talent but almost no experience. no one on the roster
>has experience winning other than being open for kobe and
>bron.
>
>him being the best thing on all star weekend since durant
>playing horse is a factor
>
>but its mostly about age and upside. steph could still be ray
>allen good or hall of fame good without winning any mvps.

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33. "EXACTLY"
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I ask right now who is better and cats talking bout IN 3 YEARS....


NO RIGHT NOW!



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35. "1) RIGHT NOW is some pick up ball shit which means nothing"
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there is the past. there is the future.

2) RIGHT NOW kyrie is slightly better too if you look at raw numbers and clearly better (imo) if you factor in conditions around him.

  

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36. "foh..."
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The ONLY THING Kyrie does better is dribble.


ONLY



Steph can score
Steph shoots better, quick release
Steph better court vision


Steph is a better PG



simple



not one reason Kyrie should be picked over him that doesn't begin with....in 3 years....


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38. "except they play the games RIGHT NOW"
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Kyrie is clearly more valuable, but is he BETTER? This is a legitimate question.

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40. "big diff between Steph and ray allen though "
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>
>but its mostly about age and upside. steph could still be ray
>allen good or hall of fame good without winning any mvps.



Steph creates his own shots off the dribble, and is a CAREER 45 pct from three. 45 pct is a really good avg for a catch and shoot guy like Ray (whose avg is closer to .40 i think), but for a PG who isnt playing off the ball coming off screens ...that's an amazing stat all things considered

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42. "gstate's roster is a lot better, but have they been healthy all season?"
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>the ankle obviously is a factor
>
>gstate's offensive reputation and underappreciated coaching
>are factors...and the roster is a lot better. cleveland has a
>lot of talent but almost no experience. no one on the roster
>has experience winning other than being open for kobe and
>bron.
>


we've won without our starting center, replacing him with a cat named Festus Ezeli lol... and Brandon Rush (big contributor on defense for us last year) went down the first weeks of the season

two crucial injuries right there, but it hasn't fazed us becuase Steph has been lights out


Cleveland's roster doesn't have much exp winning, true. But GS STate's roster does???? ... difference is we have a PG who is carrying this team on his back right now

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73. "wow, breh, just wow"
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And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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25. "Right today, in a seven game series, its Spice"
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If I'm offering either of them a contract at the end of this season, it's Kyrie, but their talent-level is a lot closer than a lot of people are willing to admit.

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30. "Right today, Golden State would sweep the Cavs"
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34. "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5zGkqAWsWE"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5zGkqAWsWE

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43. "i tried to find something catchy to say..."
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Like:

13 idiots...
Vindication...


I even thought about being technical
http://bkref.com/tiny/lrXmS


But then playoff numbers would be unfair...



So I will just let the post speak for itself.



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44. "you vindicated, huh? lmao...it's gonna be over in 14 days"
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____________________________________________________


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45. "Doesnt matter"
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he's vindicated regardless

Curry is beasting in the playoffs while Kyrie's doing his best Rakim, thinkin of a master plan

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47. "kyrie chillin...just like steph did his first 2 years"
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steph's BREAKOUT year is barely above kyrie's injury-riddled ho-hum 2nd season. that says a lot.

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51. "while Steph is AVERAGING a double double in the playoffs"
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Without his all star post scorer and Harrison Barnes finishing at the rim.




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56. "and he'll be home in two weeks"
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____________________________________________________


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46. "k"
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48. "Kyrie is better finisher at the rim n stronger handle"
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Curry got handles but his are silky smooth. Kyrie's is on Chris Paul's level: smooth, fast, and strong.

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49. "Why go to the rim when you shoot 45% from the field AND from 3"
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all this on no ankles...


Kyrie is to dribbling what Jason Richardson was to dunking.

Its all pretty but if you don't win, after a while ehh what's the point.


Nigga makes the best crossover ankle breakers ever seen in a 20 point loss.



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58. "LOL"
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>Nigga makes the best crossover ankle breakers ever seen in a
>20 point loss.

discounting the 3, i think kyrie is the better individual talent. curry is just on fire right now.

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50. "can't wait for Michaelangelo Brown to take them to the playoffs"
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so that this dumb shit can end. or rather, that goal post will then be: "why does he not have a title in year 4?"

  

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52. "can't wait till Mike Brown moves him to the 2"
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and brings in an Andre Miller type PG to really run the team



Then Kyrie can fall short of Allen Iverson's glory too...



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55. "LMAO."
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Are they gonna move Westbrook to the 2?
or Rose to the 2?

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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54. "then put your stowaway in the damn cargo hold lol"
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because as long as he is spouting insanity, unfairness is all thats gonna be out there

  

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59. "one dude is killing the playoffs"
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the other is playing pickup games with The Marine...


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60. "Lightskinned ngs back in style"
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63. "RE: Lightskinned ngs back in style"
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64. "You really are gay. Interesting. Make sense, though. n/m"
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65. "the "chris cooper in american beauty" of okaysports."
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69. "Pretty insane"
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that exchange above occurred two years ago. I almost thought it was two days ago.

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67. "Man I really miss fromthego"
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...so much right

  

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70. "The dude made polls about Kyrie vs. *everybody,* dude."
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This is the same guy who insisted that Isaiah Thomas was better than Kyrie in a poll.

This is the same guy who insisted that the Cavs should trade Kyrie and roll with Jeremy Pargo because he made them a better team.

He didn't even *really* get this post as right as he could've because he said to waive all future potential considerations, and while Curry *did* end up with better stats than Kyrie in 2012-2013, it was not the level of better he is today.

2012-2013:
Curry: 22.9/4/6.9/1.6/.2/45% from the field/45% from 3
Kyrie: 22.5/3.7/5.9/1.5/.4/45% from the field/39% from 3

He was just doing what he always did: firing buckshot style shots at Kyrie in attempts to provoke a poster who would fire shots at Rose. I'm not convinced he really believed in any of what he said (in fact, I think in that Pargo post, he more or less admitted that he was doing all of these Kyrie posts just to troll).

When you combine the context of FromTheGo's posting history with the fact that 2012-2013 was by *far* Curry's best season to date, it's easy to see why so many people disagreed with this post (though no one could possibly defend Haj's breakdown of Curry, not even then).

*EDIT*: in fact, I now see that FromTheGo *waited* to make this post until the day Kyrie was having an MRI on his injured knee. He didn't even make this post until after the season was over halfway through *and* one of the players was hurt, in order to make his "W" as cheap and cowardly as humanly possible. Good grief.

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75. "That's a lot of typing"
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To say you were wrong about Kyrie.


  

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82. "lol right"
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77. "You realize you're actually replying to the FromtheGo here, right?"
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79. "LMAO, no, I didn't. Well that explains a *lot.* "
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68. "Need to buy some Gob Bluth tees for a few people in here."
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72. "I'm very happy to be on the right side of history"
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And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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76. "i'm very sad bron ain't give ky the ball on the last shot"
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it's okay tho. i'd LOVE to see them in the finals again...everyone fully operational. would prefer it, actually.

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83. "damn i was way off"
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kyrie ended up being the one who stagnated and curry blew the fuck up

he's still only 23 so he still has 3-4 years to catch up but it'll be pretty damn hard now

  

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78. "Nothing against Kyrie, but some of the replies here are fucking hilariou..."
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Whooooo, that Haj response is funniest joke I've read in a while.

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80. "Yeah, that was about as wrong as it gets."
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If it wasn't a dude who I know is generally a nice and rational poster, I'd have sworn he was trolling.

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81. "Haj is a good guy, but completely irriational when it comes to the Dubs"
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He really hates most Bay Area teams.

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85. "this doesn't count for POOPINCHICAGO, btw"
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86. "lol"
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