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"The Official 2012 NBA Prospect Thread 4 Thruthiness and Justivity"
Thu May-31-12 02:12 PM by Basaglia

  

          

MMMMMMMMMMHMMMMMM...this my way of gettin everybody LOCKED IN...y'all can make separate threads on the draft or whatever, but this is for MY personal records.

i'm listing all the prospects in this thread...and all you gotta do is reply with your opinion on them. that's all i'm asking. it can be detailed or you can simply say "he gonna be good" or "he gonna be sorry." bottomline is NOBODY is gonna get to pretend they thought someone was good or sorry anymore and have the thread fall outta evidence/existence. nah, dogg. we going on record for real. because bammas on this board STAY LYING!

and if you don't contribute and try to cuban B this thread...GOOD...i don't have to respect or acknowledge your opinion about ANY player from this draft.

AND-0

you just mad.

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Subject Author Message Date ID
Anthony Davis
May 31st 2012
1
Real good. Not MVP good... but reeeeeeal good.
May 31st 2012
2
Very Good Pro. will make several AS teams. dunno if he's "franchise"
May 31st 2012
3
This is kinda where I'm at
May 31st 2012
131
don't wanna guess exact numbers, but will be a gamechanger
May 31st 2012
4
better scoring Camby.
May 31st 2012
10
Somewhere between Serge Ibaka and Tyson Chandler...
May 31st 2012
12
His weight scares me a bit but obviously has great length + instincts
May 31st 2012
15
camby with a jumper.
May 31st 2012
18
Less offensively skilled Garnett
May 31st 2012
20
no cise... but he was a gaurd until the growth spurt
May 31st 2012
213
      RE: no cise... but he was a gaurd until the growth spurt
Sep 12th 2012
337
A 7 time All-Star. Multiple All-Defensive Teams.
May 31st 2012
21
wat...
May 31st 2012
29
      Eventually, when he gets stronger. Melo not so much...
May 31st 2012
34
More of a 1b or #2 guy than franchise player
May 31st 2012
30
looks like a consensus, with the exception of tha truth
May 31st 2012
55
15-18ppg, 10-12rpg, 2-3bpg, 1 stl, multi-allstar, allD-team, D-POY or 2
May 31st 2012
109
multiple all NBAs
May 31st 2012
115
Any offense you get will be a plus
May 31st 2012
147
He'll have a rough transition, but be pretty good on D
May 31st 2012
150
Borderline franchise guy
May 31st 2012
166
Franchise Player
May 31st 2012
219
Beast shot blocker, surprising pick and pop guy
May 31st 2012
245
RE: Anthony Davis
Jun 01st 2012
281
Mike Kidd-Gilchrist
May 31st 2012
5
Perennial All-Defensive team guy...could be great on offense...
May 31st 2012
6
Love him. Alongside the right star, he'd be scary.
May 31st 2012
7
yup...he could easily be better than Iggy by year 2
May 31st 2012
8
      does he really have Iggy's ballhandling and playmaking ability?
May 31st 2012
14
           yeah...he just doesn't look as fluid doing it...just like Ron Ron
May 31st 2012
17
           Iggy at 19? Hell yes.
May 31st 2012
19
                Iggy was throwing up triple-doubles in college, MKG was never...
May 31st 2012
26
                     He put up three for a shitty Arizona team as a sophomore.
May 31st 2012
33
                          Iggy averaged almost 5 assists a game in college, a lot of point guards....
May 31st 2012
57
                               The fuck? Who said anything about assists? lol
May 31st 2012
63
                                    That's thing, they might be similar defensively, but Iggy's offensive...
May 31st 2012
73
                                         I'm glad you're on record.
May 31st 2012
96
                                              write it down, take a picture, I don't give a fuck(c)C.Tucker
May 31st 2012
108
non-pussy Tayshawn Prince.
May 31st 2012
11
Has to work on his jumper, but love everything else about him
May 31st 2012
13
Igoudala without the ballhandling and playmaking ability
May 31st 2012
16
Meaner Iggy or full flowering of Tony Allen + size and brains
May 31st 2012
22
here's the problem for a lot of these guys...
May 31st 2012
48
      I just hope he doesn't go to the Bobcats
May 31st 2012
66
A team leader and winner.
May 31st 2012
28
how many 3's that aren't "point fowards" or scorers are "team leaders"?
May 31st 2012
60
      DeBusschere
May 31st 2012
65
           lol
May 31st 2012
145
A saner Gerald Wallace
May 31st 2012
31
good player. idk. nm.
May 31st 2012
50
Fuck that. I'ma go all in. Pippen ceiling.
May 31st 2012
68
If he got a decent jumper and bank shot...I could see this easy
May 31st 2012
114
      He has awkward weird 2 footed hops
May 31st 2012
165
      People underestimate how good of a passer he is.....
May 31st 2012
172
           That drive, draw and oop to Anthony Davis was remarkable
May 31st 2012
242
good. how good depends on whether he has a pg
May 31st 2012
119
Wall ain't helped any other player's game yet I'm sorry to say
May 31st 2012
256
Remember Chris Douglas-Roberts
May 31st 2012
152
Good,not great
May 31st 2012
209
Ya'll gon fry me
May 31st 2012
246
eh...not the athlete...not the handle or IQ...much better leader at that...
May 31st 2012
258
      maybe
Jun 01st 2012
268
           could be...he's 18 and already 235, dude. all muscle.
Jun 01st 2012
270
Ideal running mate for John Wall.....
Jun 01st 2012
266
RE: Mike Kidd-Gilchrist
Jun 01st 2012
285
Ron arrest in his prime but quicker and more
Jun 06th 2012
300
lmao
May 31st 2012
9
Brad Beal
May 31st 2012
23
I don't see it in him
May 31st 2012
35
From the Martell Webster line of shot missing sharpshooters
May 31st 2012
43
Randy Foye
May 31st 2012
44
That's perfect
May 31st 2012
49
lol not the best sg in the draft yet is gonna go higher than guys
May 31st 2012
47
Very Poor Man's Mitch Richmond.
May 31st 2012
56
He could have the homeless man's version of Stackhouse's 00-01
May 31st 2012
156
good rebounding #s for a SG, solid but not spectacular 15/6/4 guy
May 31st 2012
58
Somewhere between Ray Allen and Eric Gordon
May 31st 2012
61
Your so weird I don't know which one is the high & which is the low
May 31st 2012
67
he'll have elements of both, he's a natural scorer like Ray, not...
May 31st 2012
81
      He's not as athletic as either of them.
May 31st 2012
158
           he's the most athletic pure shooter that I have ever seen, his...
May 31st 2012
160
                to the tune of 30%? He's not even the best shooter in the S.E.C.
May 31st 2012
169
                     he shot better than Gordon did in college
May 31st 2012
176
                          by a percent and Gordon had a wrist injury
May 31st 2012
189
                               ^^^PLEAS COPPED
May 31st 2012
198
                               thats fine. We actually get to see how Beal will be.
May 31st 2012
199
                               He might be better than Gordon already
Nov 20th 2013
362
^^^Where I'm at...Gordon more than Ray IMO
May 31st 2012
116
Not as good of a shooter as Ray not as athletic as Gordon
May 31st 2012
174
I can't believe the hype this guy is getting
May 31st 2012
127
sitting this one out. no idea.
May 31st 2012
262
      me either,besides NCAAs FLA lost all 5/6 games I watched of em last year
Jun 01st 2012
286
Perry Jones III
May 31st 2012
24
More aggressive Charlie Villanueva/'Shard Lewis
May 31st 2012
42
I guess I'm saying, the next Michael Beasley
May 31st 2012
184
misused in Baylor's offense, glad he waited it out
May 31st 2012
45
Will be an all-star at some point...talent to be best player from 2012
May 31st 2012
71
going all in, I see
May 31st 2012
75
Mental issues scare me... I wanna see him in the pros first.
May 31st 2012
101
That's how I feel about him
May 31st 2012
159
Can't call it...I see a high of Amare at his peak, low of Tyrus Thomas
May 31st 2012
117
HELL no. effort issues in college and wants to be a 3
May 31st 2012
120
DO NOT WANT
May 31st 2012
223
Tim Thomas with a good head
May 31st 2012
247
RE: Perry Jones III
Jun 01st 2012
287
Can be the best player in the draft
Jun 06th 2012
299
Thomas Robinson
May 31st 2012
25
Better rebounding Paul Millsap
May 31st 2012
27
I'd say more athletic Millsap
May 31st 2012
32
I'm not sold on him.
May 31st 2012
36
I like any kid with work ethic like T-Rob's to stick.
May 31st 2012
53
nope
May 31st 2012
62
i like him more than most tweeners.
May 31st 2012
80
On the low, I think in 10 yrs he might be the best thing in the draft
May 31st 2012
121
could start for a contender but not as a top 3 player
May 31st 2012
123
This nigga is the next Wilt Chamberlain
May 31st 2012
153
DA URREA! A bamma with a nice skillset...can't lose
May 31st 2012
225
this is actually the guy i want the most for the pistons
Jun 01st 2012
271
RE: Thomas Robinson
Jun 01st 2012
289
Will have a long career as a solid scoring bamma
Jun 06th 2012
298
Harrison Barnes
May 31st 2012
37
Marvin Williams
May 31st 2012
46
^
May 31st 2012
51
Homeless man's Rudy Gay
May 31st 2012
52
lmao!
May 31st 2012
220
he won't suck totally, but he'll be an underwhelming pro
May 31st 2012
54
Calbert Cheaney, but better from three.
May 31st 2012
59
a more fluid Paul Pierce
May 31st 2012
64
archive, lol
May 31st 2012
69
LMFAO
May 31st 2012
97
Lol...I'm beginning to think you're a moron dude.
May 31st 2012
70
I really wish that were true
May 31st 2012
72
what part of The Truth's game isn't fluid tho?
May 31st 2012
221
he's a 13-15ppg starter...nothing more. i don't hate him
May 31st 2012
99
I agree...that Calbert Chaney comparison is so spot on it's scary
May 31st 2012
122
sounds like a nas line
May 31st 2012
208
      it is...i flipped it
May 31st 2012
226
will disappoint a lotto team then be a solid third scorer on a winner
May 31st 2012
102
Harrison Barnes will be Luol Deng
May 31st 2012
154
if he was Deng?! I'd retract EVERYTHING I said above
Jun 01st 2012
267
What hasn't been said about him already?
May 31st 2012
175
A poor man's Donyell Marshall
May 31st 2012
206
damn... DM's career avg is 11 & 6
May 31st 2012
222
if you draft him to be a role player, you'll be happy
May 31st 2012
263
RE: Harrison Barnes
Jun 01st 2012
290
16-8 he will be a lesser Lu but better off the dribble
Jun 12th 2012
311
I can't see him being good
Jun 12th 2012
321
Damn my dude got a few haters. I see y'all.
Oct 04th 2012
349
Andre Drummond
May 31st 2012
38
Isaac Austin. Will get 3 G.M.'s essentially fired.
May 31st 2012
74
lol
May 31st 2012
84
.
Jan 30th 2013
354
A more physically gifted Deandre Jordan.
May 31st 2012
86
More physically gifted to be drafted 30 spots higher?
May 31st 2012
105
      When he's that much more physically gifted, yeah.
May 31st 2012
106
I haven't really seen enough of him but he sounds like a big lazy...
May 31st 2012
88
Can't call it...seems lazy but I thought Derrick Favors wouldn't stick
May 31st 2012
124
Chris Wilcox/Kwame Brown
May 31st 2012
141
Man is he dumb
May 31st 2012
177
shouldn't have re-classified. immature as hell. HOWEVER...
May 31st 2012
229
Dwight part two
May 31st 2012
249
a qualified endorsement
May 31st 2012
264
Will be ok If he accepts he is probably a bamma
Jun 06th 2012
301
early returns are positive
Jul 10th 2012
333
Jeremy Lamb
May 31st 2012
39
Best sg in the draft.
May 31st 2012
76
Co-sign on every word
May 31st 2012
90
Agree with all of this pretty much.
May 31st 2012
103
I wish the bulls could figure out a way to get him :-(
May 31st 2012
125
co-sign
May 31st 2012
251
did he even play?
Jun 21st 2013
359
RBO said all that needs to be said for me
May 31st 2012
77
had to deal with boatright and napier dribbling out the clock every
May 31st 2012
83
a homeless man's Rudy Gay
May 31st 2012
89
aye, young...you parody posting or something?
May 31st 2012
94
      you co-signed RBO, reading what he said is that not Rudy Gay...
May 31st 2012
149
Mike Miller
May 31st 2012
144
Off skills and athleticism alone, he's number 3 imo
May 31st 2012
178
you talked me into him, so i only want minority shares
Jun 12th 2012
318
Damian Lillard
May 31st 2012
40
kinda reminds of jeff teague. depends on what team drafts him.
May 31st 2012
93
Want.
May 31st 2012
100
saw a Jay Williams comparison somewhere and bout flung my ipad
May 31st 2012
118
Literally haven't seen him play once.
May 31st 2012
137
Never seen him but that's a bust name
May 31st 2012
155
      lol
May 31st 2012
161
      lmao
Nov 20th 2013
363
one of them weight-struggle wing players...UGH!
May 31st 2012
41
6th man of the year candidate a couple times.
May 31st 2012
98
Austin Rivers
May 31st 2012
78
underrated because it's trendy...underrated playmaker/creator
May 31st 2012
85
23 ppg scorer?????? lolololol...he wont even do that in the D-league
May 22nd 2013
357
lol
May 23rd 2013
358
Basaglia already said it
May 31st 2012
92
A smaller Kobe, for better and worse.
May 31st 2012
95
I still don't know if he's a 1 or a 2, he needs the ball in his hands...
May 31st 2012
107
Monta Ellis, for better and for worse
May 31st 2012
110
Yeah, I think that's a pretty good one
May 31st 2012
157
if you include "not complete defensive liability," sign me up for this
Jun 12th 2012
319
What Jamal Crawford COULDA been but wasn't smart enough to be
May 31st 2012
126
OJ Mayo
May 31st 2012
142
At player who can come in and score on the pro level from Day 1
May 31st 2012
164
The best T-Wolves swingman since . . .
May 31st 2012
179
I still think he could/should play the point
May 31st 2012
181
Jamal crawford/ nick van axle
Jun 01st 2012
269
I'M BUYING STOCK NOW.
Oct 04th 2012
340
*giggles*
Dec 19th 2013
364
Jared Sullinger
May 31st 2012
79
i don't see it.
May 31st 2012
82
nice role player...if that lil hook he got belonged to quicker feet?
May 31st 2012
91
Diet Coke Booz. That's not an insult, btw.
May 31st 2012
104
I see: Fat but he could be a poor man's Kevin Love with work
May 31st 2012
128
don't have loves touch, IQ, or footwork
May 31st 2012
130
      I said 'poor man' and 'with work'...hell I didn't see Love being THIS
May 31st 2012
134
      just saying even with work...those are loves natural gifts...
May 31st 2012
139
           Yeah them 4 are prolly his lane but
May 31st 2012
146
           He's also just good at getting and mainting position...
May 31st 2012
193
      lol that's just flat out wrong.
May 31st 2012
192
rich man's Millsap
May 31st 2012
132
Corliss Williamson
May 31st 2012
151
Big Nasty at his best or a Gary Trent type
May 31st 2012
167
Agreed
May 31st 2012
180
Could be lesser Love could be slightly better DaJuan Blair
May 31st 2012
183
This is the best crop of NBA prospects
May 31st 2012
87
Jae Crowder
May 31st 2012
111
Crowder is a bamma
May 31st 2012
224
Would be an AWESOME second round/late first rounder.
Jun 01st 2012
282
Draymond Green
May 31st 2012
112
like this dude...hope he's there for a Cavs second rounder.
May 31st 2012
135
yeah, i agree. type of guy anyone would love to have on their
May 31st 2012
140
Valuable bench player. The bammaiest of bammas.
May 31st 2012
136
D-league
May 31st 2012
162
Scal - role player here, legit threat overseas
May 31st 2012
171
Andrew Nicholson
May 31st 2012
113
Love him, would like to see him as a Sixer next year but not sure
May 31st 2012
201
agree with pretty much all that. my biggest worry is his athleticism
May 31st 2012
203
      he's got hops in a rebounding/blocking from standing position
May 31st 2012
216
Poor Man's Jason Thompson
May 31st 2012
214
that's where i am. i don't see it. he's generic.
May 31st 2012
227
I like Thompson probably a bit more than most (he's a SJ kid)
May 31st 2012
250
      I like Jason Thompson as well
May 31st 2012
255
           if he ends up in LA or w/yall, I hope youre right. Otherwise I hope I am
May 31st 2012
257
very early returns........GOOD!
Jul 10th 2012
332
Dion Waiters
May 31st 2012
129
damn, thought i already posted him...um, he's not a star
May 31st 2012
133
lol yeah that Wade comparison is REAL off base
May 31st 2012
143
More erratic Ben Gordon
May 31st 2012
148
dont they all though?
Jun 01st 2012
272
      Not to this extent
Jun 01st 2012
273
           he can "drive"
Jun 01st 2012
274
RE: Dion Waiters
Jun 01st 2012
291
I'M SELLING STOCK LIKE MORTIMER DUKE!
Oct 04th 2012
341
Moe Harkless
May 31st 2012
138
Him and Quincy Miller are the biggest question marks
May 31st 2012
215
no...one of the forgotten from this draft
May 31st 2012
241
John Henson
May 31st 2012
163
Ty Thomas (but not an asshole)
May 31st 2012
168
cmon
May 31st 2012
173
      Sorry, FUTURE TWO SPORT MVP, President of USA!!!
May 31st 2012
182
           i thought cmon was for overvaluing him your evaluation
May 31st 2012
185
                Yeah, I wasn't sure, but I mentioned Brandan Wright
May 31st 2012
186
can't put on any weight until he bout 28 and them bones settle.
May 31st 2012
231
His frame is too narrow-- he can't gain weight. I can't bet on him.
Jun 12th 2012
314
Kendall Marshall
May 31st 2012
170
Jamaal Tinsley minus the Mel Mel the Abuser alter ego
May 31st 2012
191
BUST
May 31st 2012
207
solid PG for 15 years barring injury. will prolly win a title. a winner....
May 31st 2012
228
Backup pg. Then International Pg.
May 31st 2012
240
Tony Wroten
May 31st 2012
187
Not sure but I'll go with bigger Marcus Banks
May 31st 2012
190
Not a lot of people are. Thats why he going late...
May 31st 2012
195
No one can stop him from getting to the bucket.
May 31st 2012
202
tough kid. very talented. worry about his emotional IQ...
May 31st 2012
233
      true.
May 31st 2012
253
Terrence Jones
May 31st 2012
188
A less offensively gifted Beasley, but will play harder
May 31st 2012
194
I think he might be the more successful that Davis or MKG, plus...
May 31st 2012
197
      *I think he might be more successful than Davis or MKG, plus...*
May 31st 2012
232
He'll fit the Haslem/Pietrus type role
May 31st 2012
196
wat? those dudes aren't similar at all, lol
May 31st 2012
200
      Their roles kind of are
May 31st 2012
205
           Haslem or Jeff Green.
May 31st 2012
211
Josh Smith - freak athleticism + a bit more sanity
May 31st 2012
210
my biggest sleeper in the draft. he gonna be good.
May 31st 2012
236
      My fave player from this Cats squad. Bamma motor, Booz frame, + skillz
May 31st 2012
259
      so you got the 3 Kentucky dudes in the AS game huh? okayplayer.
May 31st 2012
260
      I have no idea why he's projected so low.
Jun 01st 2012
283
Terrence Ross
May 31st 2012
204
Corey Brewer with a jumpshot
May 31st 2012
212
second best 2 in draft...he, lamb and rivers gonna be compared forever
May 31st 2012
238
      ^^^sees it^^^
May 31st 2012
252
Quincy Miller
May 31st 2012
217
if he gets full athleticism back...STAR...if not, solid starter
May 31st 2012
239
Ugly game
May 31st 2012
254
Most of the mocks ive seen have us taking him at 22
Jun 11th 2012
307
      Word is that he's not doing great in workouts
Jun 11th 2012
310
Marquis Teague
May 31st 2012
218
My favorite of the recent UK pgs.
May 31st 2012
235
starter on bad to average teams...8th man on good teams. not a star.
May 31st 2012
243
Starting pg on a 7th seed 6th man for a contender
Jun 12th 2012
313
      *facepalm*
Sep 12th 2012
338
This was a great idea for a post, BTW
May 31st 2012
230
NFL has too many and you cant really grade non glamour positions
May 31st 2012
234
I called Jared Veldheer he a bamma + WHEAT
May 31st 2012
237
      I mean,fuck Jake Locker though
May 31st 2012
248
thanks, dogg...i just want dudes to stop LYING
May 31st 2012
244
      You're basically saying everybody but Barnes and Beal is going to...
May 31st 2012
261
           if "everybody" i said will be one is sorry, then i'll be wrong, right?
Jun 01st 2012
265
Doron Lamb
Jun 01st 2012
275
better than dequan cook...lmao...all i got
Jun 01st 2012
277
Tyler Zeller
Jun 01st 2012
276
better than Hanstravel. good backup big, not a starter.
Jun 01st 2012
278
Yep. Especially since backup centers suck nowadays
Jun 01st 2012
279
i would say low level starter but i basically agree
Jun 01st 2012
293
Consistent relief for your starting big.
Jun 01st 2012
284
What Celtic fans thought Montross was back in 94/95
Jun 01st 2012
288
RE: Tyler Zeller
Jun 01st 2012
292
RE: The Official 2012 NBA Prospect Thread 4 Thruthiness and Justivity
Jun 01st 2012
280
Sources: Cavaliers Expected To Take Barnes at No. 4 (swipe)
Jun 06th 2012
294
this is going to be great
Jun 06th 2012
295
NO!!! NO!!! NO!!!!!!!!
Jun 06th 2012
296
already said i will ride for him...but, this is all pre-draft spec to me
Jun 06th 2012
297
If mkg is sitting there you can't pass on him
Jun 06th 2012
302
latest rumor is Kingfish might trade down to the Cavs
Jun 06th 2012
303
Kyrie + a more fluid Paul Pierce? Nothing but blue skies!
Jun 06th 2012
304
      If I could believe he was anything approaching Paul Pierce
Jun 11th 2012
306
           Oh, as would I. No question.
Jun 12th 2012
312
on record: I got Harrison Barnes, Bags got Perry Jones
Jun 11th 2012
305
Nah...he yours
Jun 11th 2012
308
He tried the halfway claim. You all in Shells.
Jun 11th 2012
309
      fine, under the terms i specified
Jun 12th 2012
316
           DOGG!?!?!?! HE YOURS!!!! What are you talking about?!?!?!
Jun 23rd 2012
324
                better. than. perry. all i care about.
Jun 23rd 2012
325
                     well, that's a given...that's the bet. but, overall he yours too
Jun 24th 2012
328
Year 1: Shelly
May 22nd 2013
356
John Jenkins
Jun 12th 2012
315
solid role player...10+ year career
Jul 02nd 2012
331
Fab Melo
Jun 12th 2012
317
Yeah, I think he's too big of a dope to really make it
Jun 12th 2012
322
he dumb and clumsy
Oct 04th 2012
342
Drew Gordon
Jun 12th 2012
320
Will Barton
Jun 23rd 2012
323
I think he's dumb and won't be in the league very long.
Jun 24th 2012
326
      I wanna cosign, but I like Barton's potential more than CDR's.
Jun 28th 2012
330
are we doing a mock draft this year?
Jun 24th 2012
327
Scott Machado
Jun 24th 2012
329
How long before he moves up over Lin on the depth chart?
Oct 04th 2012
343
KEEPIN IT FRESH! TRAINING CAMPS IN 3 WEEKS!
Aug 13th 2012
334
season gettin closer...braggin time upon us
Sep 12th 2012
335
I'm not looking forward to it... We got TOO MANY players...
Sep 12th 2012
336
      Same, honestly.
Oct 04th 2012
345
           Do you focus on just a few or try to watch all of them?
Oct 04th 2012
346
                I put preference on the contenders and the rookies, for sure.
Oct 04th 2012
347
                     I didn't have cable last year and won't this year. But...
Oct 04th 2012
348
royce white crazy
Oct 04th 2012
339
Good, Good, Good, Good
Oct 04th 2012
344
any second thoughts or is everybody standing on they shit?
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lol
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The purpose of the thread is to NOT rewrite shit, genius
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      I'm good with mine, I'm worried about everybody else, lol
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^^^just a refresher
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lol this is why these early gendas crack me up
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this is more about year 3 or 4, when the search function kills it
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      This was a fantastic idea. I'm loving reading all this.
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Essentially majority of you niggas know shit about evaluating hoopin.
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RE: Essentially majority of you niggas know shit about evaluating hoopin...
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i only blew 2 of mine
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Basaglia
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1. "Anthony Davis"
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2. "Real good. Not MVP good... but reeeeeeal good."
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Easily second option on a playoff team good... but All-Star good and maybe even franchise player good. I'd take him on my team in a heartbeat. Crazy potential.

(By the way, he ain't keepin the unibrow. He's gonna wonder why the other players are all getting TV spots and not him until he plucks that sumbitch.)

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3. "Very Good Pro. will make several AS teams. dunno if he's "franchise""
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but, he's surely a great centerpiece for a team starting over.

early pick for ROY

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131. "This is kinda where I'm at"
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He won't bust and will be good for a long time, but I don't see him being a franchise guy. He won't dominate the paint like he did in college unless he changes his body significantly. His offensive game also has a ton of room for refinement.

  

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4. "don't wanna guess exact numbers, but will be a gamechanger"
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defensively like kg. and looks like he can at least be
solid offensively.

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10. "better scoring Camby."
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12. "Somewhere between Serge Ibaka and Tyson Chandler..."
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he'll be a defensive presence but he'll never be a 20&10 guy or a go to scorer.

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15. "His weight scares me a bit but obviously has great length + instincts"
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Has shown the ability to hit the jumper and handle the ball on face-ups as well. Great timing defensively, needs to get stronger up top.

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18. "camby with a jumper."
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obviously without just stipulating he'll have camby's longevity.

i still blame hip-hop.

  

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20. "Less offensively skilled Garnett"
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He won't be as good at shooting, passing, or ballhandling (where KG was almost guard-like in his prime), but he'll make a similar impact on the defensive end and be very solid on the boards as well. Multiple time All Star. Probably avgs 18 or so in his prime.

  

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213. "no cise... but he was a gaurd until the growth spurt"
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dude has handle yo

  

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337. "RE: no cise... but he was a gaurd until the growth spurt"
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a guard w/pretty much no D1 offers. folks keep playing it up & while I think he will be a very skilled big man, it aint like he was CP3 and just grew 8inches.

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21. "A 7 time All-Star. Multiple All-Defensive Teams. "
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Not a Franchise player in the traditional sense, but will become a solid player on the offensive end based on his quickness and shooting touch.

If he plays the 3, he'll be giving your favorite wing scorer fits.

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29. "wat..."
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>If he plays the 3, he'll be giving your favorite wing scorer
>fits.

so you think he can defend people like Kobe, Lebron, KD, and Carmelo out on the floor?

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34. "Eventually, when he gets stronger. Melo not so much..."
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cuz he can post.

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30. "More of a 1b or #2 guy than franchise player"
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He's going to struggle with the strength of NBA players for a year or two and needs to improve his offense but he should be very good.

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55. "looks like a consensus, with the exception of tha truth"
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all-star but not mvp caliber

truth has him a step below that, all-defense but not enough O for all-star

  

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109. "15-18ppg, 10-12rpg, 2-3bpg, 1 stl, multi-allstar, allD-team, D-POY or 2"
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147. "Any offense you get will be a plus"
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Just like Bogut.


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150. "He'll have a rough transition, but be pretty good on D"
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He won't be an offensive powerhouse

Upside = Larry Nance

Downside = Tyrus Thomas


I question if he's an Alpha male who will be able to take control instead of being just a complimentary player


He will be a beast on the low post D and may end up gaining weight and being a Camby like center in the future but he will still get banged by bamma ass Al Jefferson types





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166. "Borderline franchise guy"
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Can be the number one on a chip contender but will probably have to be in a situation similar to what KG had in Boston. I worry about whether he'll be able to consistently get high percentage opportunities with that frame. Will he become just a pick and pop big man jump shooter and alley oop finisher on the offensive end? Also, Bismack (whatever his last name is) dominated Davis physically in that US v. the World game a year ago. Davis was and is clearly better but Bismack was able to knock Davis out of position several times and out position him for boards. All this to say that Davis needs to add a bit a bulk. If he does, he'll be fine and will be able to be a high level shot blocker/rebounder. I expect him to be able to shock people with how good he is on the perimeter as well. I think he'll display similar skills to what we see from KG - maybe not as refined but close.

Anyway....ceiling: KG...floor: Camby.

  

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219. "Franchise Player"
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He's young, but he'll gain more weight to compete w/ the big men
in the league. Already an All-Defensive caliber player, he's
got all the intangibles you could dream of in a No. 1 pick.

Also, lets not forget dude was a gaurd before the growth spurt.
He's got handle, and will develop an quality offensive game
as he grows.

The sky's the limit for this kid.

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245. "Beast shot blocker, surprising pick and pop guy"
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The best parts of Ibaka and David West. Multiple all-star games

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281. "RE: Anthony Davis"
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All-defensive team staple, multiple ASGs. I like the Camby with more offensive potential comparisons.

  

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5. "Mike Kidd-Gilchrist"
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6. "Perennial All-Defensive team guy...could be great on offense..."
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I can see him picking up where Artest left off around 2004 before he went crazy. He can be that good, because Ron was damn good back then.

Can't miss.

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7. "Love him. Alongside the right star, he'd be scary."
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Is he the #1 guy on a playoff contender? Probably not... but he could be a better Iguodala, and Iggy did okay in the playoffs this year.

If he got next to John Wall or Kyrie Irving next fall, and they could have a speedy flashy offense with those two side-by-side, he will legitimately push his teammate for ROY honors.

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8. "yup...he could easily be better than Iggy by year 2"
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14. "does he really have Iggy's ballhandling and playmaking ability?"
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17. "yeah...he just doesn't look as fluid doing it...just like Ron Ron"
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them bammas just play strong and clumsy

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19. "Iggy at 19? Hell yes."
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MKG is bigger than Iggy, so it's not a perfect comparison... but Iggy coming out of Arizona vs. MKG coming out now? Give me MKG all day.

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26. "Iggy was throwing up triple-doubles in college, MKG was never..."
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even close to doing anything like that.

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33. "He put up three for a shitty Arizona team as a sophomore."
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Not that it's easy to do, cuz it isn't, and one of them came against a ranked Texas team, but the others were against super shitty Liberty and super shitty UCLA (where he shot under 20% for the game).

As a freshman, he played off the bench of a stacked Arizona team and got nothing close to a triple double.

I like Iggy a lot. And the comparison isn't perfect due to MKG's bigness. But to say MKG at age 18, who started for the best team in the country and did plenty of playmaking, isn't as good as Iggy was at the same age, when Iggy couldn't even start for a team that flamed out... is unwise. In my humble opinion.

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57. "Iggy averaged almost 5 assists a game in college, a lot of point guards...."
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don't average 5 assists in college. MGK had more than 5 assists in a game ONCE.

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63. "The fuck? Who said anything about assists? lol"
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I already said the Iggy comparison wasn't perfect. Different roles in the offense in college, different strengths. Who the fuck looks at MKG and says, "If only he'd get 5 dimes a game"? lol

I said MKG at 18 is better than Iggy at 18. Which is unequivocally true in both box scores and simply watching games.

I personally think he's a bigger and probably better Iggy. You disagree. Cool.

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73. "That's thing, they might be similar defensively, but Iggy's offensive..."
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skill set was way ahead of MKG's.

MKG is just a bamma that plays hard, that's good enough to be a 4th option on a national championship squad in today's NCAA but guys like him are a dime a dozen in the NBA, that dude is LONG way from being an All-Star.

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96. "I'm glad you're on record."
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108. "write it down, take a picture, I don't give a fuck(c)C.Tucker"
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13. "Has to work on his jumper, but love everything else about him"
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His body control is incredible, his work rate and willingness is incredible. Love his game.

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16. "Igoudala without the ballhandling and playmaking ability"
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22. "Meaner Iggy or full flowering of Tony Allen + size and brains"
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Ideally he's the 3rd best player on a contender but he's gonna be one of them cats who's always on winning teams. Upside is probably a little less high than your typical top 5 pick but you're paying for probability here... I am 98% sure he is not going to be sorry (barring injury, of course).

  

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48. "here's the problem for a lot of these guys..."
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>Ideally he's the 3rd best player on a contender but he's
>gonna be one of them cats who's always on winning teams.
>Upside is probably a little less high than your typical top 5
>pick but you're paying for probability here... I am 98% sure
>he is not going to be sorry (barring injury, of course).

They're not going to be on "contenders", they're most likely going to be on shitty teams and as a top 5 pick with a big contract they're going to be expected to be "the guy", not a hustling role-player.

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66. "I just hope he doesn't go to the Bobcats"
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You're right, most of these types of guys don't go til the mid/late 1st - even the most favorable comparison above (Ron Artest) didn't go til the mid 1st, and those early 2000s Bulls teams were horrible. But Ron escaped and has been on winning teams ever since, and the only reason people get down on Iggy is cause he gets paid way too much on a mediocre team. As long as he doesn't get stuck in that NBA purgatory of overpaid "star" on mediocre team, his career will be fine.

(Which isn't to say I'll blame him when he takes an $80 million contract from the Bucks in three seasons, for basketball enjoyment purposes I hope he gets with an up and coming star like Kyrie or a decent team at some point)

  

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28. "A team leader and winner."
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Will be a great rebounder from the 3. Will be a key component of a championship team at some point.

Ceiling: a T.O. filiing for bankruptcy Pippen
Floor: a last year on the Mavs Shawn Marion

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60. "how many 3's that aren't "point fowards" or scorers are "team leaders"?"
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65. "DeBusschere"
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145. "lol"
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31. "A saner Gerald Wallace"
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Smarter on defense will make him better and I think he could do a better job expanding his offensive game.

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50. "good player. idk. nm. "
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68. "Fuck that. I'ma go all in. Pippen ceiling."
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Yup. I'll have more on the other prospects later. At work. Can't get fired

  

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114. "If he got a decent jumper and bank shot...I could see this easy"
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He might not have as much hops as Pip either but he can still leap.

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165. "He has awkward weird 2 footed hops"
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172. "People underestimate how good of a passer he is....."
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His ball handling was very good last yr as well and will get better. He's no Kobe off the dribble but neither was pip. He was the best finisher on the break out of all of the draft prospects as well. Plus the other pip comparisons, 6'7, wiry, athletic and a beast on defense. High motor + intelligence and feel and I say it's definitely possible he reaches that ceiling. We'll see.

  

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242. "That drive, draw and oop to Anthony Davis was remarkable"
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He just looks unorthodox doing it.

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119. "good. how good depends on whether he has a pg"
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If he gets Kyrie or Wall, look out.

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256. "Wall ain't helped any other player's game yet I'm sorry to say"
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>If he gets Kyrie or Wall, look out

Maybe another Cal guy coming through (with him working hard on a jumper) at #3 can do the trick for what's been a dissapointing start of a career for John John.

MKG is a can't-miss but I don't see him as a perennial all-star, more like a great glue guy type who gets a few All-D nods, maybe a Six Man of the Year & maybe 1 or 2 AS game nods by way of being viewed as a major contributor to a good team.

  

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152. "Remember Chris Douglas-Roberts"
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Nigga BALLED THE FUCK OUT at Memphis



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He should be good, but he is set up to be the Derrick Willams of the draft




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209. "Good,not great"
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I don't think this draft has any GREAT players though
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246. "Ya'll gon fry me"
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He could be Grant Hill. He'll board. He's a willing passer. His jumper wont go past 20 feet. Athlete, smart player off-ball. That's the best case scenario

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258. "eh...not the athlete...not the handle or IQ...much better leader at that..."
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i'm sticking with Ron Ron at his very best. 2002-04 ron was a top 3 SF and a top 15 and CLIMBING player, IMO...he was gonna be AWESOME...then he just went crazy.

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268. "maybe"
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I think he's as fluid, maybe not with the vert. The handle is nicer than I thought, just loose. But yeahI'm reaching. The Ron thing is interesting but is MKG gonna be that physically imposing?

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270. "could be...he's 18 and already 235, dude. all muscle. "
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by the way, the more i research everything and think of the cavs best fits, the more i come back to MKG...lmao. man, they got 3 picks after the 4 to get "scoring"

young...i just see perry as such a HOMERUN chance, but i need to just stop and take the sure thing where it counts most. that's a STARTER at 3 and a DEPENDABLE teammate..he can finish and wants to be great. let's just leave it alone, dogg.

i wouldn't be mad if they traded with Charlotte for the 2, hendo, tyrus and give up the 4, 24 and the expirings of walton and boobie

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266. "Ideal running mate for John Wall..... "
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285. "RE: Mike Kidd-Gilchrist"
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Please Cheezy-E don't draft him.

Personal favorite kid in the draft. Another guy I can see being a all-defensive team staple. Ends up the sidekick to some alpha-star on a winning franchise. Not gonna go as far as the Pippen comps, but I like the sane Ron Artest ones.

  

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300. "Ron arrest in his prime but quicker and more "
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9. "lmao"
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23. "Brad Beal"
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35. "I don't see it in him"
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They have slightly different body types, but maybe a CJ Miles type? Supposed to be a sniper type at 2 guard but is just sorta OK shooting outside, and he isn't really explosive to the rim. It's a tough adjustment going to the longer 3 point line and better defenders, and it's not like his percentage was dragged down cause he was taking a bunch of bailout shots for that Florida team (that was Boynton and Walker). Borderline NBA starter that your team is always looking to upgrade.

  

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43. "From the Martell Webster line of shot missing sharpshooters"
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He's short.

He rebounds ok.

Not very athletic.

Can't shoot like say, Hersey Hawkins to compensate his height.

I'd rather have Wesley Matthews than draft this dude.

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44. "Randy Foye"
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49. "That's perfect"
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And I hate watching Randy Foye.

  

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47. "lol not the best sg in the draft yet is gonna go higher than guys"
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like Lamb, Ross, Rivers who have more potential.

aaron afflalo.

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56. "Very Poor Man's Mitch Richmond."
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Not as good at ANYTHING as people say he is...not AS athletic...not AS good a shooter...not AS good a handle...people are lying about this guy.

he is a 20ppg on an AWFUL team where he's the #1 option. on good team? he's not a 1 or 2 guy. period.

he's barely a starter on a good team. i just don't buy it.

if he ever drops 20ppg, i'll eat paint chips.

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156. "He could have the homeless man's version of Stackhouse's 00-01"
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58. "good rebounding #s for a SG, solid but not spectacular 15/6/4 guy"
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*Jews you*

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Proceed with caution. I am overtly racist.

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61. "Somewhere between Ray Allen and Eric Gordon"
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67. "Your so weird I don't know which one is the high & which is the low"
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But he'll be nearly as good as neither.

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81. "he'll have elements of both, he's a natural scorer like Ray, not..."
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quite as long but a little more athletic, not quite as athletic as Gordon but a little longer and more durable. He was the guy at Florida on both ends of the floor from day 1 as a true freshman. Were there some bumps along the way? Of course but his ceiling is unlimited. He'll be a 20ppg guy from day one, ROY and a future All-Star.

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158. "He's not as athletic as either of them."
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And "no", he won't be a 20ppg scorer from day 1.

He has an extremely limited offense.

And I've seen him play enough to know he'll be a lower-tier sg.

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160. "he's the most athletic pure shooter that I have ever seen, his..."
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shit is wet and he can get it off on anybody(n/h)

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169. "to the tune of 30%? He's not even the best shooter in the S.E.C."
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176. "he shot better than Gordon did in college"
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189. "by a percent and Gordon had a wrist injury "
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thats when he started shooting shitty. Non shooting wrist but it still fucked with him. I watched most of those Indian games that yr. Plus - Gordon is a much better athlete than Beal and better at attacking and finishing at the rim.

  

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198. "^^^PLEAS COPPED"
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199. "thats fine. We actually get to see how Beal will be."
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I'll wait.

  

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362. "He might be better than Gordon already"
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116. "^^^Where I'm at...Gordon more than Ray IMO"
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174. "Not as good of a shooter as Ray not as athletic as Gordon"
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don't get these comparisons AT ALL. He's also not as athletic as Ray (cats are really sleepin' on Ray's quicks and hops). I'd argue that he doesn't shoot it from deep as well as Gordon (both shot it at around 34% in their first yrs but Gordon had that wrist injury). No way of telling who will be more durable so thats definitely a reach on your part.

What I do like about Beal tho is that he competes and is a pretty smart ball player with good off the ball movement. He rebounded well playing as the third guard and he works hard on d (even though he won't be able to stay in front of the elite two's in the L imo). I see him as a guy that could avg 18-19 on a team like the 76ers....MAYBE. Not getting the comparisons to a hall of famer though.

  

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127. "I can't believe the hype this guy is getting"
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He's good, but not top 10 or even top 15 good. Good shooter and rebounder but he didn't blow me away at all.

  

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262. "sitting this one out. no idea."
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286. "me either,besides NCAAs FLA lost all 5/6 games I watched of em last year"
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but three of were against Kentucky & one of em he looked good.

I find Basa's hatred of him (which I think stems from Austin Rivers vs Beal high school shit) entertaining so I'm kinda hoping he ends up in Cleveland for the comedy.

  

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24. "Perry Jones III"
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42. "More aggressive Charlie Villanueva/'Shard Lewis"
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Whether he learns to channel that aggressiveness will determine whether he pans out or is kind of a bum.

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184. "I guess I'm saying, the next Michael Beasley"
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But, fuck it, I'd still roll the dice on Beasley.

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45. "misused in Baylor's offense, glad he waited it out"
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very good athlete. he's like a 6-11" guard. does not rebound as much as his size would suggest (esp. offensively). the thing that scares me most about him as a prospect is that he has those flashes where he disappears, especially defensively.

sometimes he strikes me as a bootleg Lamar Odom (particularly when he disappears) or even Antawn Jamison (because of the defensive disappearance). he works best in low pressure situations.

that being said, he's the #2 guy I want on the Cavs after MKG, if the Cavs had a second pick outside of the top 10, I'd take him in a minute. I'd take him over Barnes (who I emphatically do NOT want on that team). It's about team fit. Kyrie >>>>>>>>>>>>> the Baylor guards, and right away, the Cavs won't be asking for much out of him. he could actually be a good case where someone was DEVELOPED on the team, so I can dead that knock on the franchise.

  

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71. "Will be an all-star at some point...talent to be best player from 2012"
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Love the kid.

He grew on me throughout the year. he was outta position and played fairly well. he drifts. i will give you that. that's a red flag. but i just think he's one of those dudes that doesn't want to be THE MAN...not yet anyway.

now, he's being viewed as a piece, not a savior, so a lot of weight if off him.

He's going to be a good pro. It's all mental with him.

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75. "going all in, I see"
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>He grew on me throughout the year. he was outta position and
>played fairly well. he drifts. i will give you that. that's a
>red flag. but i just think he's one of those dudes that
>doesn't want to be THE MAN...not yet anyway.
>
>now, he's being viewed as a piece, not a savior, so a lot of
>weight if off him.

that's exactly why I want him on the Cavs.

  

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101. "Mental issues scare me... I wanna see him in the pros first."
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Lemme see him play a season on a non-Baylor team. Then I'll decide.

Cuz like Drummond, I love the potential in his body, and unlike Drummond, I love the potential in his game that we've already seen in tiny flashes. But like Drummond, I'm scared cuz of the disappearances and the mental lapses in college.

Give me a season. Fuck it, half. Then I'll decide. Too scared of the mental component to fully endorse, too scared of a bust call backfiring HUGELY to fully deny. He'll be an all or nothing pick for a GM.

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159. "That's how I feel about him"
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He's got all the tools to be great but I can't help but look at him and see Anthony Randolph. Intermittently putting up numbers but just leaves you wondering why he never lives up to his talent.

Some guys put it together mentally when they make the pros but I'd be scared to make that bet.

  

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117. "Can't call it...I see a high of Amare at his peak, low of Tyrus Thomas"
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120. "HELL no. effort issues in college and wants to be a 3"
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223. "DO NOT WANT"
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247. "Tim Thomas with a good head "
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Humble dude who'll shoot too many threes initially but will round into a near-all-star type 3 who puts up 19-7-4 and a block and steal a game.

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Young, restless, talk so reckless

  

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287. "RE: Perry Jones III"
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Guys who showes flashes and intrigues multiple GMs with dat 'tential. Never fully realizes it and bounces between a couple franchises.

  

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299. "Can be the best player in the draft "
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It's hard to say who his comparrison is cause
Few 6'11 dudes had handles like him

I will say he can be what Lamar odom
Was supposed to be
Could be better

If he beefs up gets stronger
And improves low post
He can be an all nba dude by year 3

Worst case scenario he is lakers Lamar odom post last chip

  

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25. "Thomas Robinson"
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____________________________________________________


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27. "Better rebounding Paul Millsap"
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Which makes him a borderline All-Star. I'm not sure his ceiling is all that high, but I doubt he's sorry. At the very least he's gonna be a solid starter.

  

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32. "I'd say more athletic Millsap"
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36. "I'm not sold on him. "
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I can't really see the difference between him and other muscular not tall big power forwards.

He can't shoot like Derrick Williams.

He might be a better rebounding Brandon Bass.

Could be Kevin Seraphin-esque

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53. "I like any kid with work ethic like T-Rob's to stick."
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If he develops some finesse post moves and relies less on bamma post moves, he could be as good as a Diet Coke Elton Brand-- not too shabby. I like him to improve every year, to struggle at first, but to end up winning out long run. Not convinced yet he's an All-Star, but that work ethic has me pretty certain he'll stick and start even if his high draft position might result in bust whispers.

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62. "nope"
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80. "i like him more than most tweeners."
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i think he could be a good post defender even with his height issues if he stays in the weight room.

good enough jumper to stretch the defense against post defenders he can't post up.

i still blame hip-hop.

  

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121. "On the low, I think in 10 yrs he might be the best thing in the draft "
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If he keeps improving his handle and his J gets a lil more consistent...DANGER!!!

Dude has a decent post game and an aggressive mentality. Plus he raised his lil bro at Kansas or some shit. I love this dude already.

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123. "could start for a contender but not as a top 3 player"
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Rich man's Udonis Haslem, maybe.

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153. "This nigga is the next Wilt Chamberlain"
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this will be upped for better or worse



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225. "DA URREA! A bamma with a nice skillset...can't lose"
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He's the one who actually reminds me of Amare. And he has a hint of Blake in his game. I can see him making a few AS teams.

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271. "this is actually the guy i want the most for the pistons"
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TRob at 4 with Moose at 5 would be outstanding

  

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289. "RE: Thomas Robinson"
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I like him and want him to be great, but I just ain't seeing it. I think he ends up being a solid starter who sticks around for a while and never makes an All-Star game.

  

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298. "Will have a long career as a solid scoring bamma "
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Udonis Haslem with slightly better low post offense and better defense

13-8 dude on a good team

  

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37. "Harrison Barnes"
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46. "Marvin Williams"
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Skill-wise not really the same but I think Barnes is going to be a #3 guy who you keep hoping will take the next step but never will.

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51. "^"
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http://hypevercab.bandcamp.com

  

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52. "Homeless man's Rudy Gay"
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Strangled by his starting point guard or head coach (hopefully it's a Scott Skiles type, or the actual Scott Skiles) by Year 3.

  

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220. "lmao!"
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It ain't easy... but it sho' is fun

  

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54. "he won't suck totally, but he'll be an underwhelming pro"
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naw, I'm jokin'... proportional to the HYPE he got a couple years ago, dude is gonna be SORRY!

the last season at UNC showed you all you need to see. has yet to develop his own shot consistently, which is the biggest knock on a dude who was siced as the second coming of LeFavre.

if the Cavs draft him, I'm gonna be mad. unlike most other Heels who have worn the Wine and Gold (and previous iteration of the team colors).

  

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59. "Calbert Cheaney, but better from three."
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Won't give you much more than 16 ppg in a season tops, but he can stroke the ball if you get it to him in position, which means there's a place for him in this league. I don't see how he could start on a true contender, but he fills a role and could start for some teams right away. His value on a team is DIRECTLY related to the quality of his point guard.

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64. "a more fluid Paul Pierce"
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69. "archive, lol"
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97. "LMFAO"
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70. "Lol...I'm beginning to think you're a moron dude."
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Pierce has some of the best footwork of any guard in the history of basketball.

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72. "I really wish that were true"
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221. "what part of The Truth's game isn't fluid tho?"
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he prolly wind up being a poor man's Luol Deng.

Peirce is playing with a sprained MCL, which is the ONLY reason
why his game isn't as fluid as it's been in the past. wtf @ "more
fluid"... jeezus

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99. "he's a 13-15ppg starter...nothing more. i don't hate him"
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3rd or 4th option.

he got dat mechanical movement, overrated clumso shit dat role players move wit.

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122. "I agree...that Calbert Chaney comparison is so spot on it's scary"
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208. "sounds like a nas line"
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numbers look crooked like king kong shook it - jdilla

  

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226. "it is...i flipped it"
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102. "will disappoint a lotto team then be a solid third scorer on a winner"
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i still blame hip-hop.

  

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154. "Harrison Barnes will be Luol Deng"
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267. "if he was Deng?! I'd retract EVERYTHING I said above"
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dude ain't gonna be no dang Deng

  

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175. "What hasn't been said about him already?"
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Pretty much agree with those that think he'll have a tough time getting his shot off in the L. He can be a very good spot up guy or come off of screens guy. I basically agree with Bags on this.

  

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206. "A poor man's Donyell Marshall"
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222. "damn... DM's career avg is 11 & 6"
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lmao


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263. "if you draft him to be a role player, you'll be happy"
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he's gonna score when other people create shots for him. he'll hit the jumpers. that's valuable, but that's all he's going to be.

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290. "RE: Harrison Barnes"
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Very situation dependent. He goes to say Charlotte or somewhere where he is supposed to be the man on offense... he will be labelled a bust. Think he eventually finds his niche as a third-option on a decent team that just needs to knock down ocassional Js.

  

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311. "16-8 he will be a lesser Lu but better off the dribble "
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Best case he will be Wilson chandler

  

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321. "I can't see him being good"
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349. "Damn my dude got a few haters. I see y'all. "
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38. "Andre Drummond"
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74. "Isaac Austin. Will get 3 G.M.'s essentially fired. "
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84. "lol"
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354. "."
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86. "A more physically gifted Deandre Jordan."
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From the unrefined offense to the shitty free throw shooting to the disappearing in games to the potential to be a major factor in other games, I smell a Deandre. I just love the physical attributes on Drummond and the speed at his size. Put him on a team where he can be lobbed to and developed behind a starting big man (Wizards?). Not gonna know what he can be til at soonest three years from now.

It walks like a bust and talks like a bust... but some team has got to take a flier on this kid if solely cuz of his body.

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105. "More physically gifted to be drafted 30 spots higher? "
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Every year a dude like this is in the draft.

@ 5 - he could get you fired.

@ 10 - hopes and wishes.

@ 20 - could be a steal

@ 35-40 - You can't sleep on his upside and he's going to make some GM's sorry they passed.


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106. "When he's that much more physically gifted, yeah."
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Ideally, he'd fall to ten rather than top five, but a GM could get fired for passing on that potential too, especially if your team needs a big man and Drummond hits, and ESPECIALLY in a draft with veeeeeery little big man depth. Tyler Zeller is a pretty ferociously unsexy consolation prize.

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88. "I haven't really seen enough of him but he sounds like a big lazy..."
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dude. Big lazy dudes don't all of a sudden get un-lazy when you give them a lot of money.

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124. "Can't call it...seems lazy but I thought Derrick Favors wouldn't stick"
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either for the same reason. So I guess it depends on where he lands.

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141. "Chris Wilcox/Kwame Brown"
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Obviously, he has the potential to be better but I don't think he has it in him.

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177. "Man is he dumb"
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So gifted, so dumb. If he ends up in the right situation with a coach that can push him he could end up being pretty good. The athleticsm and frame are there and he does have pretty good ball skills. He has absolutely no back to the basket game though and looked lost ALL YEAR on both ends of the floor. If I was the Bobcats, I'd trade down to get him though. What do they have to lose? MKG isnt a franchise savior plus you already have/had Henderson/Wallace (although MKG will be better than both - they're all athletic and hard working wings). Trade down - pick up a nice young player, and Drummond....see how it works out.

  

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229. "shouldn't have re-classified. immature as hell. HOWEVER..."
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he done lost 22 lbs since march. and word is he trying hard.

now, if he being a bamma and woking hard for a couple spots/million on his FIRST contract...imagine how hard he gonna try at 23 and 28 for them second and thirds?

see?

i dunno. this is the same reasoning that mad me think thabeet wasn't gonna be a scrub. but he so much more skilled than theebs.

i like him. all-star at some point. but he might have a slow start.

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249. "Dwight part two"
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He won't beast initially but if you put him out there for 25-28 minutes he'll get 12-8 and fuck up on rotations every so often. I think he'll respond to technique coaches and I love that he's working with the navy seal dude that got Blake out of college. He's not looking for the Tim Grover skill-training. He's learning how to go hard and play ball with men. That tells me a lot. He'll never hit more than 60% of his fts but dude is going to be putting up 18-10 by year 3.

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264. "a qualified endorsement"
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he could definitely bust. percentage is probably above 50.

BUT, if you need a franchise player, why not roll the dice? no one has his potential, not even the brow.

i'd endorse the pick for any team without a clear #1 star in place, so that means everyone except cleveland and washington.

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301. "Will be ok If he accepts he is probably a bamma "
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Just go get oops and put backs
And boards

Tyson chandler/deandre jordan/javale magee type dude

  

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333. "early returns are positive"
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39. "Jeremy Lamb"
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76. "Best sg in the draft."
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Great size. Great wingspan. Great touch. Needs to get more aggressive.

I'm not sure he knows how good he can really be.

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90. "Co-sign on every word"
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103. "Agree with all of this pretty much."
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His wingspan and size put his ceiling higher than Austin's, even if I like Austin's attitude to potentially rise him above Lamb... only if Austin "gets it" and Lamb stays less aggressive.

But yeah. Easily the safest bet at the position. I've seen him become a MONSTER in games. If he turns it on and keeps it on? Someone's getting a big-ass steal here.

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125. "I wish the bulls could figure out a way to get him :-("
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251. "co-sign"
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359. "did he even play?"
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77. "RBO said all that needs to be said for me"
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83. "had to deal with boatright and napier dribbling out the clock every"
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posesssion. and still averaged 18 on 48% shooting.
very good shooter. should contribute pretty well on
a winning team as a 2nd(depends) or 3rd option. defensively
shit..7' something wingspan w/ pretty good lateral
quickness.

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89. "a homeless man's Rudy Gay"
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94. "aye, young...you parody posting or something?"
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149. "you co-signed RBO, reading what he said is that not Rudy Gay..."
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but in a smaller package? Rudy Gay has at least 3 inches on Lamb, that makes a difference

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144. "Mike Miller"
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He could make a splash in his first few years but I don't think he'll ever be a guy you want to rely on.

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178. "Off skills and athleticism alone, he's number 3 imo"
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I didn't like what I saw from him this year though. He didn't have a game where he showed consistent effort and seemed too comfortable dribbling around the three point line and jacking up a shot instead of trying to penetrate and get a better look inside. I still like him better than Beal though. It'll be interesting to see where he ends up.

  

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318. "you talked me into him, so i only want minority shares"
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but, yeah, you look at what he did at uconn, given the absolute shitstorm that program was this year, and you wonder why he's not getting more love. dude was a constant positive force in an awful situation and has all the physical tools.

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40. "Damian Lillard"
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93. "kinda reminds of jeff teague. depends on what team drafts him."
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if he drops to the blazers or something he should be set.
15-18 points and 6 assists maybe at his best.

only seen him play 3 times tho in that conf.

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100. "Want."
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Would be the epic draft for us if we get him at #10.


See him as a bootleg Russy.

Aggressive. Attacking. Hungry. Needs to improve playmaking, but with his talent it should develop.

Great fit for us as long as he and Gordon can play together.

  

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118. "saw a Jay Williams comparison somewhere and bout flung my ipad"
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he's not even better than isaiah thomas. not an insult. but this is a cyse.

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137. "Literally haven't seen him play once. "
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155. "Never seen him but that's a bust name"
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Damian Lillard? C'mon.

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161. "lol"
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363. "lmao"
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*Jews you*

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41. "one of them weight-struggle wing players...UGH!"
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look, everybody want the next wade. this guy ain't it. he's a ROLE player, not a potential all-star.

how's he better than marshon? c'mon man.

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98. "6th man of the year candidate a couple times. "
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78. "Austin Rivers"
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85. "underrated because it's trendy...underrated playmaker/creator"
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i dunno how many times i saw him penetrate and kick out or leave it for a big, but it was a lot. he did it enough that i stopped worrying about whether he was capable and instead chalked it up as a positive to his game.

he averaged just as many dimes as beal and more than lamb, so all that ballhog stuff is a cyse.

he needs to continue to improve finishing with his left, because he's gonna need to be way more creative around the basket. he can get there all day, but finishing is the key. if he finishes at the NBA level? 23+ ppg scorer...and league-leader potential.

yeah, i said it. people too scared to be real about this kid.

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357. "23 ppg scorer?????? lolololol...he wont even do that in the D-league"
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358. "lol"
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92. "Basaglia already said it"
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there are a number of teams I'd like to see him on right away.

  

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95. "A smaller Kobe, for better and worse."
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He will create shots. He'll make crazy shots AND clutch shots. He will throw the team on his back. He is unafraid to be an asshole.

He'll miss crazy shots. He'll hog the ball. He'll get pissy if things aren't going his way. He is unafraid to be an asshole.

And I'd take him on my team in a heartbeat.

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107. "I still don't know if he's a 1 or a 2, he needs the ball in his hands..."
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but he's not a natural playmaker, somewhere between Monta and Tyreke, he'll get his but can you win with him?

I don't see him ever being an All-Star 2 guard but I think he has the skill and pedigree to develop as a point if he wants to but I think in his mind he'd rather be Kobe than Deron.

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110. "Monta Ellis, for better and for worse"
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With NBA hand check rules? Shit. He's gonna score, and he's gonna score in bunches at times. He'll put up assist numbers people won't realize at first, and still get criticized for shooting too much. And like Monta, several years into his career, we still won't be completely sure what he is.

  

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157. "Yeah, I think that's a pretty good one"
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319. "if you include "not complete defensive liability," sign me up for this"
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126. "What Jamal Crawford COULDA been but wasn't smart enough to be"
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142. "OJ Mayo"
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164. "At player who can come in and score on the pro level from Day 1"
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I don't think he'll have a Monta ceiling, cuz Monta is an elite athlete, but he'll have at least a Stuckey.

My floor for him is Jerryd Bayless. Not quite 1 and not quite a 2, but aggressive on the offensive end.

The best part about Austin is his assholery. And because of that and who his dad is, he can't be some bullshit.

He'll work hard and put in the time. And will obsess over that shit.

His ball handling will set him a part and he'll be able to get to the rim and draw contact. He should live at the line.

If any team needs points, I'd grab him.

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179. "The best T-Wolves swingman since . . . "
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Well, pretend this franchise has had one

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181. "I still think he could/should play the point"
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Like someone else said, he showed that he could create for others pretty often last year and has a ridiculous handle. If he's gonna play the 2, he'll need to learn out to keep moving once he's given the ball instead of stopping and allowing the defender to set his feet. He does that shit WAY too often. He'll also need to bulk up a bit and like basa said get better finishing with his left. I'm still waiting on him to get back to utilizing his mid range game more consistently. He did that really well in 10th and 11th grades but fell out of love with it. I think he'll be somewhere between a top tier 6th man (Harden/Terry) or a low level Kobe if he sticks as a 2. As a point, he'll be a bigger Steph Curry imo (not as good from deep but a more wiggle off the dribble).

  

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269. "Jamal crawford/ nick van axle "
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24 ppg 2apg

  

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340. "I'M BUYING STOCK NOW."
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364. "*giggles*"
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79. "Jared Sullinger"
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82. "i don't see it. "
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i don't see him being significantly more impactful than a dajuan blair type.

i still blame hip-hop.

  

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91. "nice role player...if that lil hook he got belonged to quicker feet?"
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he'd be an all-star.

sully got some slow feet, thus the booz comparisons are not good. booz always looked like a dancing bear, even when he was around 280 at duke.

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104. "Diet Coke Booz. That's not an insult, btw."
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Even if he can't get to Boozish levels, his sheer bamma factor on the floor will keep him getting minutes for a lengthy career.

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128. "I see: Fat but he could be a poor man's Kevin Love with work"
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130. "don't have loves touch, IQ, or footwork"
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134. "I said 'poor man' and 'with work'...hell I didn't see Love being THIS"
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good from the 3 either. He worked at it tho.

Sully should peak at good mid range shooter, decent post game, good rebounder.

That is if he aint on that Sean May

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139. "just saying even with work...those are loves natural gifts..."
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love was one of the smartest HS players i ever saw. and he got a knack for knowing where the ball is coming off which is why he boards like that. and he can finish from funky ass angles. love is just a basketball player.

sully needs to pattern himself after milsap, booz, baby and bass.

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146. "Yeah them 4 are prolly his lane but "
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all of them have/had more athletic ability than love and sully (outside of maybe baby). Sully got love's same lack of agility.

Love should be what he aims for and if he even gets half close it'd be an awsome career for him.

Natural curve he might end up between baby and milsap.

25% chance of donuts though...

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193. "He's also just good at getting and mainting position..."
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Which Sully also does well. I actually agree that he could be a poor mans love (big man that can knock down the outside J and get you a bunch of boards). Obviously, Love brings more but that is where that poor mans part comes in.


  

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192. "lol that's just flat out wrong."
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dude is a coach's son..his basketball IQ is off the charts.

and he has plenty of touch, around the basket and from 12 to 20 feet away..

he can stroke the 3 too, not like Love but he isnt a liability at all from beyond the arc...

we'll see how much better he is once he gets on an NBA S&C program


but you're waaaaaaay off



  

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132. "rich man's Millsap"
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151. "Corliss Williamson"
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People forget that Corliss had some pretty nice years in the pros. I think the key to his success is that he realizes his role and fills it and doesn't become like Big Baby, a guy who seems happier putting up good numbers on a bad team than being a useful role player on a winning one.

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167. "Big Nasty at his best or a Gary Trent type"
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I'd take him on my team.

We know he's short, but hopefully he can find a nice balance between being quick while not compromising his size and strength advantage.

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180. "Agreed"
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Gary Trent popped into my head

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183. "Could be lesser Love could be slightly better DaJuan Blair"
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He improved his outside j from his frosh to soph yr and lost some weight. I'll expect him to continue to do both. If he does, and remains a beast on the glass, then he can get close to Love numbers imo. If not, he'll be a slightly taller/more skilled Blair.

  

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87. "This is the best crop of NBA prospects"
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in a very long time

  

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111. "Jae Crowder"
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i still blame hip-hop.

  

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224. "Crowder is a bamma"
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Gonna average 10-6 for 10 years
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282. "Would be an AWESOME second round/late first rounder."
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Great bamma potential.

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112. "Draymond Green"
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i still blame hip-hop.

  

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135. "like this dude...hope he's there for a Cavs second rounder. "
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Gonna be a great role player.

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140. "yeah, i agree. type of guy anyone would love to have on their"
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bench.

i wonder if he sneaks into the first over guys with more impressive measurables for that reason.

i still blame hip-hop.

  

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136. "Valuable bench player. The bammaiest of bammas."
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162. "D-league"
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171. "Scal - role player here, legit threat overseas"
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113. "Andrew Nicholson"
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i still blame hip-hop.

  

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201. "Love him, would like to see him as a Sixer next year but not sure"
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it will work out that way in terms of where they're slotted at 15 (too early to grab him in the late first where he's slotted & won't be there in the mid-second) barring some trade movement.

Personally I think he would be worth the pick at 15 but you could probably trade & get him in the mid-20s.

But to me he's almost instantly better than say, Lavoy Allen (a nice surprise this year & an Owl to boot) will ever be.

Stuck playing with a crew of NoBonnies (sorry ma, y'all ain't had a player that mattered since you were cheerleading for Bob Lanier) so not many people saw him or those that did wrote him off for shit he wasn't really great at (like creating shot opportunities for bum teammates out of the post despite being a good passer) or other dumb things that didn't matter (like not coming out last year when he's a kid who wanted to finish his physics degree) but I see him as a solid/legit NBA starter at power forward.

Has an NBA body in terms of size/length/mobility, a legit post game as a collegian but a jumper in case he has trouble establishing that against pros in the early going, a great free-throw shooter for a big, highly intelligent, and he's a good shot blocker who will be able to work hard enough plus gain strength to guard NBA 4s down low but not sure how he'll fare in pick-n-roll.

I didn't pay attention to this kid for the early part of his career but between nagging from moms whose an alumnus to check him out along with some of the draft talk last year I've watched him in the last two years about as much as anyone would hope to see a kid from an upstate New York mid-major while living in Southern California.

This kid was easily the best player in the Atlantic-10 last season.

Singlehandedly ended St Joes at-large then later automatic-bid within about a week's span (gave em 32/14 the end of the regular season, then 25/10 right after) then turned right around to fuck up Xavier's chances of a decent seed by beating them in the final and won the A-10 for the first time in about 40 years.

Also was the reason they almost upset Florida State in the first round (hit & assisted on threes late to bring the game back to one-possession but their guard missed the shot at the end).

Dude will likely luck out & go to a good team based on draft projections, if San Antonio hadn't traded their pick I could have seen them grabbed the kid & had him contributing instantly by being what they wanted Dejuan Blair to be (or he could have given them a longer/taller Malik Rose with better offensive skill who could also step out for jumpers).

I'm on board with this one.

  

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203. "agree with pretty much all that. my biggest worry is his athleticism"
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and speed.

i still blame hip-hop.

  

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216. "he's got hops in a rebounding/blocking from standing position"
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(like I've watched him go up then go up then bounce right back up again if he mistimes his jump or bites on a fake but then still makes the play).

I'm not sure he's got actual foot speed & quicks though for this level, which is why I was saying pick-and-roll could be a problem but I don't have evidence to really know one way or the other I'm more looking for what's keeping him from being a top-flight pro.

  

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214. "Poor Man's Jason Thompson"
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I'm hoping the Celtics don't pick him.

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227. "that's where i am. i don't see it. he's generic. "
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250. "I like Thompson probably a bit more than most (he's a SJ kid)"
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and feel like he was alright before Big Cuz was on his way but they don't really remind me of each other much at all.

Thompson was a center/forward project who had barely anything resembling a post move let alone the ability to hit a midrange jumper.

We'll see, 'thats the fun of the game'.

I hope he doesn't end up on the Celtics but for the opposite reason as you I guess.

  

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255. "I like Jason Thompson as well"
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But Nicholson is at best an end of the rotation guy in the league and very possibly a guy who rides pine and then has to head overseas. Since perimeter big men aren't that hard to swoop up so I'd rather use a first round pick on someone else.

Also, the C's basically just kind of drafted him in JuJuan Johnson and I have no interest in adding another lanky, perimeter based PF.

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257. "if he ends up in LA or w/yall, I hope youre right. Otherwise I hope I am"
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332. "very early returns........GOOD!"
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129. "Dion Waiters"
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I'm curious what ya'll think about this one. His stock has shot up the last month or so from mid first to top 10.

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133. "damn, thought i already posted him...um, he's not a star"
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why is everybody looking for d-wade? you know how good d-wade was at this age? good enough to be 6-3.75 and be taken that high as a SG.

waiters is a role player. if he becomes a star, i dunno...like, why am i tryna predict who gonna be good...what do i know? is how i'mma feel for real.

AND he got the wing player with a weight problem steez? c'mon, man. he can't be a future star player.

i can see him having a stuckey dogg type run though and getting overpaid

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143. "lol yeah that Wade comparison is REAL off base"
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Watching Wade in the tourney before he got drafted I KNEW dude was gonna blow up.

Dion reminds me of a bobby jackson/mario elie/ronald murray mash up.

Just a rugged, sturdy ass bench nigga/part-time starter than can cook up fast but he ain't gonna do a whole lot more than score.

I'd take a chance on him as a 13-20 pick.

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148. "More erratic Ben Gordon"
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I'm rooting for him but the kid literally has to work on every part of his game to be the kind of player the "experts" are making him out to be.

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272. "dont they all though?"
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273. "Not to this extent"
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Most top picks have an NBA ready skill: shooting, defense, rebounding, etc. Sure they can improve but they can step in and deliver that one element. I'm not sure Waiters really has one NBA ready skill.

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274. "he can "drive""
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291. "RE: Dion Waiters"
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Inconsistent instant-offense off the bench guy. Poor man Lou Williams (role-wise, not skillset).

  

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341. "I'M SELLING STOCK LIKE MORTIMER DUKE!"
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138. "Moe Harkless"
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screw it..all in. new york. I think he'll be a top 5
player in this draft. kinda underrated due to playing
for st john's this season. just as skilled/talented
if not more than all the other sfs in the class.

if he stayed he woulda been lottery in 2013

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215. "Him and Quincy Miller are the biggest question marks"
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I feel like it's impossible to get a grasp on either of them. They could be steals or out of the league before they turn 25.

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241. "no...one of the forgotten from this draft"
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163. "John Henson"
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168. "Ty Thomas (but not an asshole)"
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He needs to work on his jumper to be most effective but I think he'll be a solid enough 5th starter or role player, strong help defender. I could see him busting like Brandan Wright but I think his commitment to the defensive end will keep him in the league.

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173. "cmon"
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182. "Sorry, FUTURE TWO SPORT MVP, President of USA!!!"
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Is that better?

Dude can be a useful role player but I'm not seeing him being a star. And there's a decent shot that he is a 10th man for his entire career like Brandan Wright.

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185. "i thought cmon was for overvaluing him your evaluation"
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*shrugs*

i still blame hip-hop.

  

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186. "Yeah, I wasn't sure, but I mentioned Brandan Wright"
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I mean, dude basically has to be out of the league before his rookie contract is over to be worse than Wright.

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231. "can't put on any weight until he bout 28 and them bones settle. "
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he developed a nice 15 footer and a lil fade, but i don't see him gettin those shots off so easily and accurately against bigger guys.

not a "bust" in the classic sense, but he won't be much. could be a very solid role guy.

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314. "His frame is too narrow-- he can't gain weight. I can't bet on him."
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He'll have that Brandan Wright frame forever. At best he's a guy off the bench to block shots, play D, and grab boards-- but he'll need to bang more in the pros than he did in college, and with those skinny ass shoulders, I wonder if he can. He put on weight while at UNC and still looked like a fucking toothpick.

He could be as good as a smarter but smaller and skinnier Dalembert. Don't expect offense, but expect boards and disruptive D. Won't be a starter.

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170. "Kendall Marshall"
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191. "Jamaal Tinsley minus the Mel Mel the Abuser alter ego"
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He could be a capable point guard but he needs to work on his shot, isn't up to 'Dre Miller or Mark Jackson, and probably will be a bigger minus on defense than he's a plus on offense.

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207. "BUST"
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He's a good passer but I need my point guards to at least be a threat to score or they won't be able get those same passing angles in the league. Anyone they actually compare to him has some advantage that helped them succeed: Andre Miller (slow and can't shoot but can actually score a bit with that post game and herky jerky moves), Rubio (ridiculous handles/plus defender/jury is still out anyway), Mark Jackson (post game/different era). Backup point guard who will be way overdrafted.

  

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228. "solid PG for 15 years barring injury. will prolly win a title. a winner...."
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he's a solid kid. DA URREA!

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240. "Backup pg. Then International Pg."
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187. "Tony Wroten"
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Ceiling: Tyreke Evans with J Kidd's vision/defense/rebounding. Floor: poor man's Tyreke (good off the dribble but not Tyreke and more turnovers).

I'm sticking to my guns on this dude. I think that he's one of those smart, hard working but emptional and immature dudes that will need the right environment to grow. I'm actually hoping he lands with Memphis. He'll get to sit without pressure for a few yrs and Hollins has done well with previous emotional guys (Zbo, Tony Allen). But Tony has to get better with his right hand, needs to develop that jumper A LOT and has to cut down on the turnovers and be happy with making the simple play when it's needed. He's a 6'5 athlete that can defend, rebound and see things on the court that not many other guards, pro or college can see. When he's attacking, he's hard to stop because of his movement off the dribble and his size/strenghth. Plus, dude is a fighter. He ain't afraid of shit. If he figures it all out, he'll be an elite pg in the league. It'll take time if it does happen though.

  

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190. "Not sure but I'll go with bigger Marcus Banks"
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Not a fan but haven't seen THAT much of him to write him off completely.

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195. "Not a lot of people are. Thats why he going late..."
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>Not a fan but haven't seen THAT much of him to write him off
>completely.

as he should. He needed to stick around another year and continue to develop. He could've played his way into next years top 10 and earn more money over those 3 yrs. Aww well.

  

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202. "No one can stop him from getting to the bucket."
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If he gets a jumper he'll be unstoppable.

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