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Skillz
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"The Ja & Farrakhan interview?"


          

For those of u who saw it, Im interested on what yall thought about it.

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IN PART MAYBE NOT
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RE: IN PART MAYBE NOT
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my mother made me watch it
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take that shit to the lesson dawg!
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nah.. that's what even made it worse...
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i kept thinking...
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co-sign
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      oh shit
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      lmao
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mixed feelings
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Refresh My Memory
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nuckas ain't listening!
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what?
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      RE: what?
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           'legitimate' is a strong word
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           are you kidding?
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                when's the last time you saw Farrakhan on the front of
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      do ja and 50 get underground mixtape slots?
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Who cares
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Eff that
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something about it stank to me...
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I'm gonna try to not let their music be a factor here..
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it was crap... I ranted about it in my blog.. read on:
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sorry if i bit anyones idea
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Ja reminds me of
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RE: Ja reminds me of
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      now is it me
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my dad saw it
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a clever marketing ploy on Ja's part...
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annoying
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he talks slow
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Question...
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50/50
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0NE L0VE
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1. "RE: The Ja & Farrakhan interview?"
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Didn't see it, but from what I heard it was bullshyt.

Two people interested in their personal agendas frontin for the cameras.

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2. "?"
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>Two people interested in their personal agendas frontin for
>the cameras.

Is that what you heard or what you've concluded from what you heard?


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3. "RE: The Ja & Farrakhan interview?"
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I thought it showed of Ja that alot of people might have never saw. His comments about the beef cant be proven since there are contradicting stories from both camps but It was interesting hearing about his life growing up as a jehovas witness and his ordeals in high school

  

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4. "RE: The Ja & Farrakhan interview?"
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Watching the interview as I write this and I have to say after trying to give the brother the benefit of the doubt....I just has some reservations about the interview. Maybe it has to do with the timing of the interview, his CD drops tommorow I believe, and the fact that most of his CD fires back at 50, it just make me question the sincerity of squashing this beef. As Mos would say this isn't (shouldn't) be beef..

  

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14. "IN PART MAYBE NOT"
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Mon Nov-03-03 10:38 PM

  

          

>....I just has some reservations about the interview.
>Maybe it has to do with the timing of the interview,

SOMETIME request are answered,then maybe not and yeah BET benefit also.

Also,long ago FREE said she wanted Ja and 50 to come on toghether.

BUT,in part it just may not be all about the timing of the cd,although it happens often.

THE amazing telecommunications sometime work for what we want to happen.

>. As Mos would say this isn't
>(shouldn't) be beef..

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38. "RE: IN PART MAYBE NOT"
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I see what you are saying, and I agree with you. Seriously, though you have two financially set brothers fighting over nonsense, well if anything it did spark a diaglogue as evidence of this thread.

  

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31. "RE: The Ja & Farrakhan interview?"
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Tue Nov-04-03 09:48 AM

  

          

Beef is not what Ja said to 50, but beef is....

Thats what Mos said...


This is all just a joke. The whole thing is stupid.

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5. "my mother made me watch it"
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I have to agree with what the previous person said, It seemed like a promotional thing. Now if this interview would have taken place a few months earlier...then I could believe it a little more. It seemed to show a
more vulnerable side of Mr.Rule ya know with the thing about his moms & fam. He wants to be respected..not loved. He (Mr.Rule) made some valid points about the media & fans or non-fans. See if 50 had a album that dropped 2morrow, he would have been there.

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6. "take that shit to the lesson dawg!"
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naw, but seriously...

  

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7. "RE: The Ja & Farrakhan interview?"
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Most of the post before me discussed how Ja Rule is just participating in this interview just for promotional reasons. Whether that is true or not, the content of the interview was good. And, I think that is what people are missing. There is a larger picture of why there is even a "beef" and why the current state of hip-hop is where it is.

I'm glad they put it on during 106 because the youth need to hear these things. So personally I think the interview was on point.

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8. "RE: The Ja & Farrakhan interview?"
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>Most of the post before me discussed how Ja Rule is just
>participating in this interview just for promotional
>reasons. Whether that is true or not, the content of the
>interview was good. And, I think that is what people are
>missing. There is a larger picture of why there is even a
>"beef" and why the current state of hip-hop is where it is.
>
>I'm glad they put it on during 106 because the youth need to
>hear these things. So personally I think the interview was
>on point.

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16. "RE: The Ja & Farrakhan interview?"
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>Most of the post before me discussed how Ja Rule is just
>participating in this interview just for promotional
>reasons. Whether that is true or not, the content of the
>interview was good. And, I think that is what people are
>missing. There is a larger picture of why there is even a
>"beef" and why the current state of hip-hop is where it is.
>
>I'm glad they put it on during 106 because the youth need to
>hear these things. So personally I think the interview was
>on point.

true. it would've been better if BOTH cats were there to express both sides of the story and possibly come to some sort of resolution

  

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40. "nah.. that's what even made it worse..."
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who puts on 106 and park for a political message especially one as contrived and enginieered as that?

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9. "i kept thinking..."
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wow i'm old and this cat needs to grow up...hell both of em do.

  

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18. "co-sign"
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and these dumb niggas are rich...

acting like they on food stamps and shit


WAKE THE FUCK UP!

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20. "oh shit"
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>and these dumb niggas are rich...
>
>acting like they on food stamps and shit

you wrong for that...but its true..lol

  

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42. "lmao"
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you want some beef whatchu want filet mignon or prime rib. new york strip. man i don't know of any better cuts.


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10. "mixed feelings"
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i thought it was commendable of ja rule to admit that he felt compelled to respond to 50 cuz his audience (consumers of hip hop, radio/mixtape dj's) would label him "soft" or a coward. after all, that's his paycheck. i know its just stating the obvious, but he could've been on some other bullshit.

i thought farrakhan was on some bullshit though when he talked about his idea for a 50/ja concert promoting unity. sorry, this is highly unlikely.

im just picturing 50 watching this laughing his ass off.

about this special being a "promo", im not sure. i didnt catch it straight from the beginning, so i dont know if ja mentioned some other songs on his album. farrakhan did say "clap back" a whole lot. and i can understand sway bringing up the new album because of the (supposed, ) death threats aimed a t 50 and his family.

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44. "Refresh My Memory"
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Did Biggie get labeled soft or a coward for not clappin back at Pac? Aside from the one line in "Brooklyn's Finest" which is more of dis to Faith than Pac.

I guess the variables are altogether different since Ja and 50 were never friends.

Oh well.

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11. "nuckas ain't listening!"
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let the bloody ice & skreet level (when you've got millions) beef continue

BET is a mess, they put that ish together with a toy digi cam

ja is now gonna get punked for doing the interview

this'll never apear on mainstream media

farrakhan was biting his tongue, the whole time

& dat be it for now

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12. "what?"
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>this'll never apear on mainstream media

what do you think BET, MTV, and clear channel radio stations are?

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13. "RE: what?"
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i think by mainstream he means legitimate media. do i have to say it? fine, network. network = legitimate. i dont consider BET or MTV to be legit. anyway, i dont think ABC news or FOX news or CBS will be showing this anytime, either.

  

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15. "'legitimate' is a strong word"
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>anyway, i dont think ABC
>news or FOX news or CBS will be showing this anytime,
>either.

in my opinion, there aren't many legitimate qualities about any of the major networks, but that's a whole 'nother argument. but i understand now what was meant by mainstream.


we must also remember now that the same people who own MTV, also own CBS, and its not uncommon for them to cover something that MTV is focusing on, if only for 2 minutes and 30 seconds on the early show.

i'm guessing this is the week when CBS obigatorily has to make at least once mention about the new 2pac film, produced by MTV Films.

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22. "are you kidding?"
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more people watch MTV than damn near any other channel
they reach more of the demographic that need to hear conversations like this

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26. "when's the last time you saw Farrakhan on the front of"
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your local paper & i'm not talking about the one you can get on 125th & Lenox being handed out by your friendly neighborhood muslim

the last time ja was on the local paper was an indictement

MTV & BET shall never count it's cable, bring it to the masses with no cable/satellite access

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17. "RE: The Ja & Farrakhan interview?"
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Just what Ja rule needed, Farrakhan boosting his already inflated ego. He was bitching about the public being fickle. Fuck that if he made quality music maybe people would listen to it a year later.

  

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19. "RE: The Ja & Farrakhan interview?"
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I only saw part 3 and 4 of the meeting. Farrakhan seemed out of touch and just basically running off at the mouth. Ja barely talked in the segments I watched. Waste of time.


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21. "RE: The Ja & Farrakhan interview?"
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i personally think it's a step in the right direction
"save the music n save the children"

back at u with love freedom.....

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30. "RE: The Ja & Farrakhan interview?"
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I also think the interview was a step in the right direction. Although I personally cannot stand the "music" that either of these MCs produce (Ja or 50), it obviously has a pretty profound impact on the streets, so much that they felt the need to address the situation on primetime television.

Isn't the whole beef about 50 not thinking Ja is "hard" or "thug" enough to portary the image that he does? Well, that mentality is what is destroying hip hop today. Why should being "thug" at all validate you as a decent MC (not that I think Ja is) but still. And if anything, why don't these MCs try to demonstrate their skills by coming at each other on wax rather than in the streets (ie, Nas and Jay-Z). Which ever cat lyrically dessimates the other is the winner! Personally, I am so sick of hearing about 50 and why he is the greatest because he has gotten shot. Yeah, the guy can take a bullet but when it comes to rhyming....he's not so hot.

I think that if 50 does not address this issue now that Ja has, he will come off looking like an uneducated fool because it will just demonstrate that he can't prove himself lyrically to the world so he has to do it by getting violent.

I mean, obviously this whole interview was a publicity stunt for Ja's upcoming album but in a way he really put himself out there by trying to squash this beef with 50. I think that if 50 does not acknowledge the issue and try to overcome it, he will come off as looking really bad.











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32. "RE: The Ja & Farrakhan interview?"
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thanks for the info
on why they were battle'n in the first place
but i feel like hip hop today is more like a rat race
who can get the most cheese
but it should before the kiddies
that needs direction
nice views and i guess i have to agree with u.

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43. "do ja and 50 get underground mixtape slots?"
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could they potentially diss one an other on mixtapes. i see they had the two songs. i mean could you imagine j and nas shooting at each other. walkin round with bullet proof vest. they arent credited enough to beef on wax but thats my opinion.
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23. "RE: The Ja & Farrakhan interview?"
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First of all both JA and 50 are punks becuase they lettin white folks make money off of them glorifying Black death. And their beef is REALLY boring anywayz and they both SUCK and i never cared about the beef anywayz cause it seemed to be about personal stuff so they should have just handled it personally instead of letting the whole world hear a whole bunch of s**** talkin and crappy diss records. Finally I admire Farrakhan for tryna clean up the Black man, but he came off a little long winded and Ja's answers were stupid and it felt like a private conversation that was taped by MTV....i didnt watch the whole thing cause i didnt feel like I needed to.

  

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28. "Who cares"
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It is too little too late to try and sqaush anything. Both parties are weak so called artists with fragil egos and Jah needs to realize the fans are not fickle he's just wack I know music and art is a issue of personal taste but come on these two guys are carbon copy cookie cutter invincible thugs that happen to indorse luxury items. Bottom line is if they can't get there wack bullshit together then they will disappear like the flashes in the pan they were ment to be. with they wack ass


  

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33. "RE: Who cares"
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35. "Eff that"
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I didn't buy the 50 CD because it glorifies black death. Thats some bullshit.

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24. "something about it stank to me..."
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i'm trying to remain positive, it was a step in the right diretion, at the same time....i can't help but realize that these peace talks are coming from the same man who blamed desiree washington and black woman for the whole initial tyson rape trial.
seems to me there was alot of blame being thrown around for things jah is responsible for as a human being. it just shown the state of immaturity jah is in at this point, but it's wonderful jah allowed himself to be vunerable.

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I just watched part 1 and part 2.Ja to me is acting like he is a victim when in actuallity he is just as responsible as 50 is.It is amazing to me how he talks about peace and ending this feud but I bet Blood In My Eye is taken alot of shots at 50.I mean he already got a song called clap back.I love the Minister but I think he needs to get into the ghetto's and address some real issues instead of two niggas feuding because of their inflated egos.

  

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I thought it was pathetic how much Ja tried to sound/act like 2Pac. The interview sounded almost exactly like an old Pac MTV interview. It was like he studied all of his old interviews and tried to be like that. I agree that it was nothing more than a publicity stunt for his new album.

  

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29. "I'm gonna try to not let their music be a factor here.."
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But according to their history, the music has nothing to do with their beef. It's a personal thing between the both of them from years ago that hasn't been settled. Like some of you have said, it's their maturity level and lack of co-operation with eachother that's hindering any chance of them getting along. I really doubt Farrakhan doing the interview helped at all. He was almost eerie to me cause he kept talkin funny like sayin "I love Ja" and the cat is right there in front of him. In reality, it's gonna take those two cats being in the same room to resolve this matter.----------------------
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34. "RE: The Ja & Farrakhan interview?"
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I caught the wackness on radio and it might as wellhave been blackface. Farakkhan on Ja's nuts babying him and shit, then 50 a couple states down ttryin to talk his version up.

2 grown ass WACK performers flapping their gums. And to think I wasted time I couldve been scratching my ass with on these fools.

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The best part was when Farrakhan started talking about his younger years as a calypso singer.

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37. "RE: The Ja & Farrakhan interview?"
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No I did not see it but I have heard the whole interview on the radio...Let's just say that this was best new release hype ever!

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50. "RE: The Ja & Farrakhan interview?"
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opened my eyes 2 some things... but not much. i thought ja had a lot of balls sayin he would attack any1 dissin murda inc. rite in front of Farrakhan.

but Farrakhan's words were very general thinkin when it comes to the Godly side of things. but that's probably all you can expect ja 2 understand in that situation.

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39. "it was crap... I ranted about it in my blog.. read on:"
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my take on the whole Ja rule louis farrakhan "interview"

what the fuck was all that about? I kept thinking it was some sort of joke.. both of them lamenting and going on and on about nothing in particular... hip hop is in trouble.. my foot. Hip hop was in trouble before there was any beef between those two.. Where was Farakkhan then? Mater of fact Ja was all for the state of hip hop when he was disrepsecitng owmena nd promoting gun play.. what a hypocrite. Hip hop is way bigger than some beef and these guys aren't even the biggest rappers in the game.. well 50 is but people hardly remember Ja...


Aside from Farakkhans' inarticulate blabbering what really made the whole thing stomach turning was the fact that it was aired on the same day Ja's new album dropped. To add insult to injury, they play the commercials of this new CD in between all Rarakkhans rantings of changing the world and all his conspiracy theories about the US govenrment and TIenaman square... WHat bullshit.. I wish BET hadn't aired taht shit.. especially during 106 and park.. I would have rather watched another stupid video from Marques Houston and I hate that little nigga.

They insult the public when they do things like that..obviously this was highly orchestrated... they should have done this way back in march not just before his album drops.. what's that about? Plus it's not like he didn't put out his own adis tracks.. just because they didn't get lots of play whose fault is that... I don't even believe Ja Rule.. it doesn't mean I condone what 50 did and all but it's not that big a deal.. seriously... neither of them are tellign the truth anyway I just get that feeling.. I think 50 is so over the beef thing because he knew he didn't need it anymore.. and yes he did need the drama to make sales at first BUT you could tel it was a heartfelt hatred AND it was a welcome change to hear some real rap in stead of sing-songy rap that Ja Rule kept ramming down our throuats.. he was getting way ahead of himself with that "it's murdaaaaaaaa" shit. Like we weren't already sick of it even before 50's Wanksta dropped? please.. the Jlo song was the limit for me.. I'd never miss Ja if he never did another record.. I was like damn this lil nigga's every where.. then mesmirize dropped with a jacked beat.. I'm like wtf? Ja doesn't say much everythign is a love song... I miss biggie's kinda rap I miss tupac's kinda rap I love that jay Z is true to his shit and didn't start singing and crying on video... I'm a girl but I love me some real fucking hardcore rappers.. Ja was all about selling records but all these people were trying to stay true to some ideal.. I don't get that from Ja.. I get it more from 50... sure he's all about selling records but when I hear him rap, it's exciting, it's real. There's just somethign raw I haven't felt from many new rappers ( except the clipse ) anyway.. I just hope no one's buying the propoganda Ja's carefully cooking up... and What was Louis Farakkhan talking about...? He's supposed to be talking about spirituality and he's talking about "how did the beef begin" for one, he shouldn't even be using the word "beef"... nah I wasn't buying it he didn't say anything deep or profound it was allll jibberish to me....

The whole trick was a ploy to sell Ja's shit and make 50 look like the bad guy.. I know they think the public is shifty and maybe we are in all honesty but rappers come in all flavours we're allowed to switch aren't we..? I don't knwo what Farakkhan was talking about but it's really just music... to me anyway.. I'm not caught up in ghetto mentlity thinking I"m going to hate one rapper because of another.. If thatw as true no one would like nas.. he's had beef with every fucking rapper alive.. same goes for Tupac.. he hated EVERYBODY.. if Pac was alive today he's be in some beef for SURE... doesn't mean we'll hate him or his enemies... I think Frakkhan just beliettleed everyone involved by saying Ja rule and 50 have some sort of power over us... oh please.. they're the leaders.. they have the oppurtunity to blah blah blah I've never seen a rapper in the last 8 years make any kind of political statement or even real sense. MOst of the time they're caught up in their little wars about who'e more "street" than the other.. tell me how that's really helping balck people.. How are rappers paving the way for any black person in America or outside of Amercia for that fact. Bah... I have my hwole theory on rap vs. reality but it's really nothing to do ith Ja or 50.. or even Frrakhan for that matter who ceased being relevant a long fucking time ago.


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41. "sorry if i bit anyones idea"
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i am trying to read all of your post. but i wanted to say we could end it easily by no longer playing ja and 50's music on the radio. no longer playin their videos. no longer playin rappers songs that diss another rapper. as long as we stop instigating, things may get better. then ja and 50 can beef at their cribs and not on my time. it hurt beenie when they stopped playin his stuff in philly. the same people tryin to put this interview out as a solution are the same ones introducing us to the problem the same ones playin the diss songs. its not Hip Hop that is causing the destruction its artist with negative messages, kids having a mind of their own, continued media portrayal of what a rapper is and the thug image, and the people who own all the avenues to make the music heard. play what you want the kids to hear. how can you work for mtv and have a problem with what Hip Hop is doing to the society. thats like being a vegetarian working at a slaughter house.

they dont even make good thug music. give me some westcoast music anyday. hey man lets go back how in the heck did ja get big. i remember when i would be at the club djs wouldnt even play his verse from can i get a(yet they played amil's).
now we could put it like this the same way you got in the game is the same way your going to leave the game. 50 came in on a diss 50 gotta leave by being dissed. so how bout it skillz i'll ghostwrite(ghostwrite for skillz that would be priceless) we can make a diss song. and you'll be the next big thing but you gotta remember you wont last long then. or the "conscious" click of rappers can make a we are the world type of hype joint and put themselves on the map taking the number one spot. just some thoughts comment how you like. ask questions if you don't understand.
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45. "Ja reminds me of"
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that srawny ass bottle clickin white dude from 'The Warriors'.
He did so much finger pointing in that interview, then the whole 'I had it ruff as a Jehova witnesses kid' bs was maken his case worse.
Farrakahn was no help either, but what suprised me was he did more quoting from the bible than the quran, what was that all about?

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46. "RE: Ja reminds me of"
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Clink, clink, clink, clink.........Warriors, come out and plaaayyyy! Evertime I watch that movie I have to rewind that part like 4 times because it is way too funny. Last Halloween I dressed up as one of the members of the baseball clown gang. Priceless! But you should see the looks I got from cats who didn't get the joke, and I'm a girl so I think it just added to the comedy of the situation. And yes, you're right, Ja is just as sketchy as that guy.



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or does Rosario Dawson and the girl from the 'Orphans' favor each other?

If anybody decides to remake that flikk, R.D. should definately get the role.

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47. "RE: The Ja & Farrakhan interview?"
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It was bullshit !!!

Farrakhan is full of shit (yeah I said it, so what !!!)

Who was this "enemy" he kept speaking of. These two niggas should stand at the "scratch line" like they did in the early 1900's. First man to stay down got layed down.

  

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49. "my dad saw it"
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i didn't really know much about it as i don't really watch tv and don't really listen to either 50 or ja. but basically he told me that the beef was pointless stupidity and that farakhan just sat down and talked to ja about solving whatever stupid problem they had like adults and ja said he'd agree.

it troubles me that today's most popular artists need to be talked to like they're little kids needing a teacher to help them with their conflict. good thing they listen to someone like farakhan.

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51. "a clever marketing ploy on Ja's part..."
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the interview was ran the same day that his assault on 50 dropped in the stores(BLOOD IN MY EYE). I think Ja has run out of ways to get the folks to buy his records. I feel for him but alas, someone will buy this record but it won't be me

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as in the Minister's manner of "speak"....everything he said irrated the hell out of me not because of what he was saying but HOW he was sayin it.

and besides, I have no luv for Ja anyway...

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I didn't see this but I wish I had. But what if ANYTHING do you all feel this interview accomplished ?
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was good... was also bad. should not have been aired the day before jas album drops... should not have been aired at all maybe. maybe just snippets. i think its good that ja wants peace and that the minister was willing to talk to 50 and bring them together for peace.... but hey... no one listens... theyd all rather die....

  

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