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"The Roots in TheWall Street Journal, speak on Game Theory"


          

The Wall Street Journal
Media & Marketing
In Production / 'Game Theory'
By Christopher John Farley
264 words
17 March 2006
(Copyright (c) 2006, Dow Jones & Company, Inc.)

The Project: The Grammy-winning hip-hop band The Roots is among the few rap acts whose members play their own instruments. So far, the group has enjoyed critical acclaim but only modest sales. Now, in a bid to raise its profile, the band has signed with Def Jam Recordings, a unit of Vivendi Universal's Universal Music Group. "Game Theory," the group's first album for Def Jam, is due out in September. Roots drummer Ahmir Thompson says the new work is "very mature, very serious, very dark."

The Buzz: Shawn Carter, a.k.a. Jay-Z, the president of Def Jam, is a chart-topping rapper and respected music executive. The Roots's presence on his label may persuade fans of harder-edged hip-hop to check out the band. In addition, the group's link to the storied label, which helped to launch LL Cool J and the Beastie Boys in the
1980s and recently signed veteran rapper Nas -- sends the signal that The Roots have real hip-hop roots.

The Outlook: Artists like Outkast, Kanye West and Lauryn Hill have proved that innovative hip-hop can sell millions of albums. If the Roots can come up with an album that critics embrace, and singles that radio stations want to play, there's no reason they can't
post sales comparable with those of their more successful peers. The rapper Common is scheduled to appear on the album and a guest shot by Jay-Z hasn't been ruled out.




  

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RE: The Roots in TheWall Street Journal, speak on Game Theory
Mar 21st 2006
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RE: The Roots in TheWall Street Journal, speak on Game Theory
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wow
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RE: wow
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      RE: wow
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      RE: wow
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           sorry, remix MAGAZINE
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                LOL
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      RE: wow
Mar 21st 2006
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      RE: wow
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      I thought they were signed to Def Jam Left...
Mar 21st 2006
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      RE: I thought they were signed to Def Jam Left...
Mar 21st 2006
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           RE: I thought they were signed to Def Jam Left...
Mar 22nd 2006
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      i agree, i think they gotta have some hot singles that really
Mar 22nd 2006
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I'm glad to hear Common is on this album
Mar 21st 2006
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This is the first time I've ever...
Mar 21st 2006
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RE: I wouldn't be suprised if...
Mar 21st 2006
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RE: The Roots in TheWall Street Journal, speak on Game Theory
Mar 21st 2006
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they need Kayne West
Mar 22nd 2006
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no they dont. n/m
Mar 22nd 2006
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off with your fucking head
Mar 23rd 2006
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i make an extra effort whenever i see this suggestion....
Mar 24th 2006
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quest said they tried that on TTP? and kanye gave em sum b-list beats
Mar 25th 2006
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what a dickwad!
Mar 29th 2006
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how condescending:
Mar 22nd 2006
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yeah-
Mar 22nd 2006
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      haha
Mar 22nd 2006
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Personally i'm not getting my hopes up for anything special
Mar 22nd 2006
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theres absolutely no reason to believe it will be anything but special.
Mar 22nd 2006
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      Well you've probably heard it already
Mar 24th 2006
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           If you want to hear it...go to rootslive.com
Mar 24th 2006
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                i was referring to the album as a whole
Mar 24th 2006
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as someone said before, the darker the better
Mar 22nd 2006
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RE: as someone said before, the darker the better
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RE: The Roots in TheWall Street Journal, speak on Game Theory
Mar 23rd 2006
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New Game theory info
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RE: New Game theory info
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Do you realize that the following ppl could all be on GT:
Mar 25th 2006
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saul williams
Mar 25th 2006
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good call.
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      RE: good call.
Mar 27th 2006
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"dark, serious, mature"?
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sweet
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fowler
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1. "RE: The Roots in TheWall Street Journal, speak on Game Theory"
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common added to the guest spots as well!!!!!!!!???

  

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19. "RE: The Roots in TheWall Street Journal, speak on Game Theory"
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Well...did anybody see that coming? I think it's a smart move.(the understatement of the year)
I'm happy for them. Guaranteed increased exposure of their music. Def Jam is gonna be a good home.


>common added to the guest spots as well!!!!!!!!???
>
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2. "wow"
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if common is on this album, too... there is no way this album will disappoint.

i dont think ive ever been this hyped for a roots album...

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3. "RE: wow"
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you think? i wouldn't think a common appearance would really help out that much, that's not to say i don't like common, but this seems like an anticipated move.

i would think that having guests like nas or jay would do more to push units. maybe even mos def because of his growing hollywood stardom.

but guest spots aren't the solution in my opinion.

the reason the other artists they mention have gone platinum is because of singles. lauryn, kast, and kanye all have multiple #1 singles per album.

that's what the roots need more than anything to truely blow up.

granted this is all my humble opinion, but it's based primarily on things ?uesto posts all the time.

rick

  

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HighVoltage
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4. "RE: wow"
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mos def is on the album though.

and im talking about personal taste. remember what happend the last time common and the roots collabed on a roots album?

and this is also based off of the new songs ive heard, what ive read about the album already (cop that remix album if u havent already), and a lot of other shit... not just one guest spot.

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rick
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20. "RE: wow"
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>mos def is on the album though.
>
>and im talking about personal taste. remember what happend
>the last time common and the roots collabed on a roots album?
>
>and this is also based off of the new songs ive heard, what
>ive read about the album already (cop that remix album if u
>havent already), and a lot of other shit... not just one guest
>spot.
>
>

as far as personal taste, agreed.

what remix album? how can there be a remix album for game theory if it isn't dropping for 6 months?

i'm intrigued.

  

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24. "sorry, remix MAGAZINE"
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not album, lol.

note to self: dont post when drunk.

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26. "LOL"
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i had my credit card out and everything.

rick

  

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5. "RE: wow"
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>the reason the other artists they mention have gone platinum
>is because of singles. lauryn, kast, and kanye all have
>multiple #1 singles per album.
>

OKP would hate them for that

  

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21. "RE: wow"
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>>the reason the other artists they mention have gone platinum
>>is because of singles. lauryn, kast, and kanye all have
>>multiple #1 singles per album.
>>
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>OKP would hate them for that
>


OKP hate everything anyway. and why would the roots give a fuck? we're here on their dime, do you really think any of these artisits stay up at night worrying about our opinion. ?uest seems to be salty when folks are overtly negative without reason (and rightly so), but he's going to do his damn thign regardless of what we say.

  

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6. "I thought they were signed to Def Jam Left..."
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or Left Jam...

Where artistic integrity and quality outweigh units sold.

Now I'm a little confused as to the direction of the album and what exactly their goal is...

Push units or make an album with substance...

  

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7. "RE: I thought they were signed to Def Jam Left..."
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>Push units or make an album with substance...

both?

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22. "RE: I thought they were signed to Def Jam Left..."
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>>Push units or make an album with substance...
>
>both?
>

that's a good point rons1ne grings up, and simple as it is, this is a good answer. it'll be an interesting "late summer/early fall"

rick

  

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18. "i agree, i think they gotta have some hot singles that really"
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grapped the popular culture, yet at the same time be artistically true to their style, which is hard but the roots can do anything

"White man come into the projects and kill a black baby, OH we out in the street, in droves, oh the thousands of us I can see em now, ya dig?

But let this dude that's out in front of ya building killing hundreds of ya'll with his drugs, and his guns, and

  

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8. "I'm glad to hear Common is on this album"
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Yes quest! The darker the better.

  

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9. "This is the first time I've ever..."
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been into the roots long enough to actually anticipate the album. When TTP came out, I was still tryna buy TFA.


You can swim in the Sea of Knowledge and still come out dry.

  

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10. "RE: I wouldn't be suprised if..."
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Jay and Nas are on the same song on this album. That shit would be insane and even crazier would be BT nas jay common mos and kanye (maybe kayne could do the beat) wakes up from dreaming and gets back to work

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cant wait for this album, imo if u cant get mainstream with star as a single u will never get recognized, but i hope kweli is on this album cuz the tracks he was on phrenology were sweet

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12. "they need Kayne West"
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let West produce a couple of tracks

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13. "no they dont. n/m"
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28. "off with your fucking head"
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:|

  

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29. "i make an extra effort whenever i see this suggestion...."
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...to come in and say HELL NO! as loud as possible just in case anyone affiliated with the group is high on PCP and actually considering that

...(the end)...

  

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37. "quest said they tried that on TTP? and kanye gave em sum b-list beats"
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43. "what a dickwad!"
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14. "how condescending:"
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>The Outlook: Artists like Outkast, Kanye West and Lauryn Hill
>have proved that innovative hip-hop can sell millions of
>albums.

-30-

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i'm black and high
and it really mean the world to me
if i live my life, stay black, and die

  

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15. "yeah-"
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how could they forget the black eyed peas?

  

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16. "haha"
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-30-

i'm black and proud, i'm black and loud
i'm black and high
and it really mean the world to me
if i live my life, stay black, and die

  

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17. "Personally i'm not getting my hopes up for anything special"
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I heard that the first single is called "Don't Feel Right" can i get a conformation?

i needed to change my avy.

  

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25. "theres absolutely no reason to believe it will be anything but special."
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31. "Well you've probably heard it already"
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me i keep my expectations low intentionally so i don't get disappointed.

i needed to change my avy.

  

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32. "If you want to hear it...go to rootslive.com"
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they've performed it at some of their shows...

  

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33. "i was referring to the album as a whole"
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but yea, dont feel right bangs.

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23. "as someone said before, the darker the better"
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personally, i'd love to hear a band with chip on its shoulder and a sense of urgency in the music.

TTP was a marathon of a lyrical performance, i hope riq can out do it and be a bit more personal with the concepts.

  

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30. "RE: as someone said before, the darker the better"
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Darker than phrenology?... I don't know. would be dissapointing to anticipate an album this much and this long only for it to be self-indulgent-impossible-to-play-on-a-great-day type ish like electric circus(for example) Critical acclaim is requisite for a roots album but it can often alieanate even the most die hard fans. For me phrenology is as dark as it gets..not that I want Thought to be Mary poppins tho. With jigga at the helm there'll obviously be a harder than before push for sales..regardless of being "Left".He gave em licence to do whatever tho so its bound to be bangin.

I'm waiting

i father words with my mother tongue and that way legitimise rhyme/so i can make the bastard see

  

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27. "RE: The Roots in TheWall Street Journal, speak on Game Theory"
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I DON'T CARE IF HE MOVES UNITS OR NOT!!! Just gimme at least one joint with Malik B!!

  

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34. "New Game theory info"
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taken from quest's myspace page

'Game Theory includes the standout track "In The Music" as well as the singles "Don't Feel Right" and "The Same Thing"'

  

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39. "RE: New Game theory info"
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umm..wow.. y does that sound so...tantalizing, shit yo!

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35. "Do you realize that the following ppl could all be on GT:"
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MF DOOM
Jay-Z
Common
Black Star
Saigon
Malik B.

This alone is enough to be excited about.

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36. "saul williams"
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needs to be on the last track

sort of like that blackalicious cut

back to the ursula treatment

  

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38. "good call."
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but i'd like to hear thought on that same track

that's a great combination

  

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40. "RE: good call."
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cool

http://oneyoungsta.com/

  

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Andrew595
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41. ""dark, serious, mature"?"
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I'm curious to find out what this means ... it's not like their previous albums have been "bright, jovial, and immature"

  

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42. "sweet"
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