lord can i PLEASE master a record in the sony building and the shit turn out the way it should be?)
they sent the wrong parts.
this is the 3rd mixed "Don't Feel Right" mixed by timberlands engineer jimmy douglas (Slave too)
but the snare sounds soft
so the version on the album is NOT the version on "pre game"
so--well the few "complete" buffs we got. this was NOT the version i liked.
HOW our mastering guy mixed this with the album version i dont know.
the ONLY cool shit about this was the BASS BLURP is gone on the third verse (something i overlooked)
did i pull a jag by letting this out the bag?
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27. "Soft snare, low drums..." In response to Reply # 1
I'd still like to listen to them more than thirty seconds. But since I live in Europe I can't even spend my money for the Pre-Game - german iTunes doesn't offer it.
Wonder if the okayplayer store will ship the bundled package all overseas?
Thanks for TOURING Europe! Already got my ticket (Nov 24th).
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16. "i dont give a gotdamn on who knows you kid" In response to Reply # 5
---gza
(jokes)
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34. "RE: i dont give a gotdamn on who knows you kid" In response to Reply # 24
drove from sf to flagstaff az today and song made 5 playlist. sheeeits fresh mang, lovin the pre game yall. drum quality between the leaked dont feel right and now are crazy. look forward to the real final that will surface sometime
I think that (unless it's unmastered) "Long Time" sounds a little digital and compressed, not as large as it should sound with the orchestration and all. Just throwing that out there.
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17. "yeah the version yall got is the second mastered version" In response to Reply # 3
we will have mastered this jawn 5 times across 3 different engineers.
this is what the press got. a lil "rush" version.---i think yall got the 2nd mastered version.
i got all noid when tom was breaking down the distortion on "dont feel right" so i used jay and b's masterer engineer.
but the album is way clearer and louder and banging
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18. "Now I'm understanding why Roots albums are so expensive to make." In response to Reply # 17 Thu Jul-27-06 12:25 PM by BrklynzFinestPR
But I'm glad that you are a perfectionist ?uest, cuz in the end its the Fans that win!
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album is straight. the "parts" sent to the factory for apple to use were wrong they mixed up the titles (each song has been mastered and mixed a combined 10 times a song)
so im sure there was a mixup like
(looks at shelf with roots dats in a row)
dont feel right dont feel right clean dont feel right edit dont feel right clean edit dont feel right-4/3 recall dont feel right clean-4/3 recall dont feel right edit-4/3 recall dont feel right clean edit-4/3 recall dont feel right-j douglas dont feel right clean-j douglas dont feel right edit-j douglas dont feel right clean edit-j douglas dont feel right-j douglas recall 6/1 dont feel right clean-sony mix-recall 6/1 dont feel right edit-sony mix-recall 6/1 dont feel right clean edit-sony mix-recall 6/1 dont feel right-sony recall dont feel right clean-sony recall dont feel right edit-sony recall dont feel right clean edit-recall
this is to give you an idea of what shelves and boxes look like when they get shipped to mastering.
and 100% its never this neat. you gotta go through dat after dat until you find
"dont feel right 6/15 recall, sony ahmir"
that is the approved album version.
they just grabbed one of the other jawns off the album
normally there is no need for alarm in this area cause if you say "i want "dont feel right 6/15 recall, sony ahmir" on the "pre game ep.
then you just trust they do it.
something told me to check "just to make sure"
glad i did.
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too bad the ep fell apart but i'm glad the album is straight. for a sec there i thought we had a TTP-style fiasco on our hands, w/ everyone freaking out on the release date.
33. "how do you know that?" In response to Reply # 32
mixing 13(and maybe the 4 that were cut) songs 10 times each isn't free. then you got the use of strings & choirs... clearing the samples... the art layout... the mastering (which i guess they had to do twice because quest mentioned firing tom coyne) the production of the cd's/LP's themself... and then the video & promotion (but i havent seen either)
times have really changed on the money tip. artists now pay for their own videos and get little if 0 help. and somehow we managed to keep the budget under the water level (well on the real a majority of this record was done during the 4 month "blackout period" with no budget and us squeeeeeeeezing favors out the ass --but nah. not ten. most of our records cost somewhere in the area of 7 figs to make.
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sheeet son, that's harsh. 7 figs seems pretty high, but hey, all the extra time, and unfortunatly money, goes for something right?
and as if it's taken this long, or this many takes, to master the whole LP. I don't think it's unfair to be annoyed at the engineers, they have to deal with crap all the time and try and 'fix' problems in the mix, their way. Each person is different, so I can see this being a rather tedious affair.
Keep up fam, it'll be worth it; mastering is what makes or breaks the majority of records, nowadays especially.
26. "I volunteer to flip it like this" In response to Reply # 0
Come to my pad over in Netherland. Now I got my American equipment and I transform them shits so you know the electricity is real dirty, all kinds of voltage fluctuation. I got a real shitty tape recorder (I mean them shits clicks while not on play or record mode) and we can put it on good old type II's. Transfer them to my Boss CD900 recorder. Shitty is pretty. and I always make the snare peak just a tad just to make it snap a dirty whip.
so there's noone making sure the mastering plant only gets the right versions (by making a pre master compilation with the correct versions in the right order), or who sits in on the mastering sessions to make sure the right versions end up on the right album versions ???
do you think "bread and butter" should be on the album? just kidding, is there any other way to be able to get this song other than the pre ep thing? maybe this could be a bonus track for the next roots come alive, which is coming out soon, right quest?
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