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Nicolay
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"'Homegrown' liner notes appreciation post"


  

          

I was reading this A to Z last night. Shit reads like a darn novel, almost. Great inside stuff.

Nicolay

  

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Subject Author Message Date ID
how long is it?
Jul 28th 2006
1
RE: how long is it?
Jul 28th 2006
2
the homegrown book
Jul 28th 2006
3
As soon as I bought it,
Jul 28th 2006
4
Better Hurry
Jul 31st 2006
22
      GOSH DARN!
Jul 31st 2006
27
      RE: GOSH DARN!
Jul 31st 2006
28
           they did it against my wishes
Aug 02nd 2006
35
                How about an actual Box Set...
Aug 03rd 2006
37
                     he's promised this
Aug 03rd 2006
41
                          HG doesn't count...
Aug 03rd 2006
42
                               HG does have numbers....
Aug 03rd 2006
43
      RE: Better Hurry
Aug 03rd 2006
44
RE: 'Homegrown' liner notes appreciation post
Jul 29th 2006
5
RE: 'Homegrown' liner notes appreciation post
Jul 29th 2006
6
RE: 'Homegrown' liner notes appreciation post
Jul 29th 2006
8
Read while listening...
Jul 29th 2006
7
RE: 'Homegrown' liner notes appreciation post
Jul 29th 2006
9
Mos definitely..
Jul 29th 2006
13
the dub version of coming to break you off
Aug 03rd 2006
38
One Of My Favourite Things...
Jul 29th 2006
10
RE: One Of My Favourite Things...
Jul 29th 2006
11
blackstar was doing that before the roots.
Jul 29th 2006
12
      Huh?
Jul 29th 2006
14
           I think he was talking about the liner notes.
Jul 30th 2006
20
                well since black star only have 1 album
Aug 02nd 2006
33
Yeah the track numbering is cool
Jul 30th 2006
18
One day, I'm going to sit down and read the whole thing.
Jul 29th 2006
15
late pass.
Jul 29th 2006
16
'Late pass' could be my middle name right now
Jul 30th 2006
17
      RE: 'Late pass' could be my middle name right now
Jul 30th 2006
19
      I appreciate that! n/m
Jul 31st 2006
25
           word up.
Aug 01st 2006
30
      you and me both
Jul 31st 2006
23
They really are sweet as hell...
Jul 31st 2006
21
BIG co-sign
Jul 31st 2006
24
Does anyone remember where ?uest says...
Jul 31st 2006
26
RE: Does anyone remember where ?uest says...
Jul 31st 2006
29
it's my toilet reading material.
Aug 01st 2006
31
yeah, it's most impressively insightful
Aug 02nd 2006
32
i wanna hear double trouble with kweli so bad...
Aug 02nd 2006
34
Hold on, there's one with Kweli?
Aug 03rd 2006
45
      Yeah, they had some Triple Trouble shit going on.
Aug 04th 2006
48
RE: Word up
Aug 03rd 2006
36
i wonder about the vinyl edition? same liner notes?
Aug 03rd 2006
39
Nope...
Aug 03rd 2006
40
      RE:
Aug 03rd 2006
46
now i see....
Aug 03rd 2006
47
this was sitting right on top of my computer. it is getting played now.
Aug 04th 2006
49
yes
Aug 11th 2006
50

BGone23
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1. "how long is it?"
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Nicolay
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2. "RE: how long is it?"
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Like... 18 pages each.

Nicolay

  

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Von Pea
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3. "the homegrown book"
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its to the point i read it once without listening to the music...just took it out like a magazine


<<<8/04/06
SO UNFAIR, SO UNREASONABLE.

  

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4. "As soon as I bought it,"
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I opened the case and read the liner notes.
And then I lost it.
And as of now, I'm not financially stable enough to afford to buy it again.
I will eventually. You bet I will.


You can swim in the Sea of Knowledge and still come out dry.
"gimme 20 min...
chop,chop,chop,chop...presto!" 9th Wonder, on making Jay-Z's Threat
http://flickr.com/photos/nuevarine/
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22. "Better Hurry"
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this is just as rare as the double live cd.
i think only 30,000 copies each. and then
poof!

NO! LIST
Tom Petty
M J
Zeppelin
Springsteen
Neil Young
Eagles
Ray Charles
Madonna
Chuck Berry
South Park TV Songs
Justin Timberlake
"Food Glorious Food"
"Twilight Zone" theme
"A Boy Named Sue"
"Night Moves"
"The Situation"
"Superbowl Shuffle"

  

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27. "GOSH DARN!"
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Alrighty then, it'll be my next purchase.


You can swim in the Sea of Knowledge and still come out dry.
"gimme 20 min...
chop,chop,chop,chop...presto!" 9th Wonder, on making Jay-Z's Threat
http://flickr.com/photos/nuevarine/
http://www.last.fm/user/Nuevarine/

  

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blam danks
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28. "RE: GOSH DARN!"
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30.000 only ?

i never thought a major would even consider releasing a record they press 30.000 copies of . whats the point for them ? they need that type of change money ?

  

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35. "they did it against my wishes"
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i told them mofos would come to this before they came to the albums.
this is why i HAD to put my ass into it (the liner notes, the rare shit) before they did it (woulda sold you the same shit twice)---

i think as a middle finger device...well not label guy...he is the one who looked out and made this happen (me taking control)---but this album cost $0 to make. maybe $10,000 for the mastering and perhaps the commercials for BET and MTV (all 3 of em)--so 40 sales means they in the black.

and they need ANY type of victory to make this seem like "they did their job".

the goal aint "what's good for me"

the goal is "what is good for my job".

and greatest hits are a SUREFIRE money maker.

NO! LIST
Tom Petty
M J
Zeppelin
Springsteen
Neil Young
Eagles
Ray Charles
Madonna
Chuck Berry
South Park TV Songs
Justin Timberlake
"Food Glorious Food"
"Twilight Zone" theme
"A Boy Named Sue"
"Night Moves"
"The Situation"
"Superbowl Shuffle"

  

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37. "How about an actual Box Set..."
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Complete with photos, music sheets, notes, session footage, commerative gold coin (j/k). Did you think about packaging HG another way other than two separate discs with an inspired blue notes album cover?

  

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41. "he's promised this"
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upon his retirement or whatever. he also says the roots will only do 10 albums, a la the beatles, but i hope to god every day that ain't true. cuz i believe game theory is number 7 or 8 (im not sure how the live albums or home grown figure in).

rick

  

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42. "HG doesn't count..."
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as an official album i believe in their catalog. The track numbering doesn't continue from TTP. GT will start with number 100-something (i don't know off the top of my head).

  

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43. "HG does have numbers...."
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But some are repeats.

http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=3&topic_id=118740&mesg_id=118740&page=2

  

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44. "RE: Better Hurry"
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Thu Aug-03-06 03:59 PM by excaluber

          

Lol.....I think about 28,000 of them are in the Best buy on chemical road (philly).

  

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5. "RE: 'Homegrown' liner notes appreciation post"
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Homegrown was my introduction to The Roots. I was wavering back and forth for a while between checkin' 'em out. When I saw the Homegrown series I jumped on it and never regretted it. The linear notes really add that something special that is more than the "who produced the track".

Roots fan here on out

  

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6. "RE: 'Homegrown' liner notes appreciation post"
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Yep, massive thanks to quest for taking the time to do them. Gives you such a good insight to the song and makes you appreciated it further.

Thanks and hope we see some with game theory.

  

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8. "RE: 'Homegrown' liner notes appreciation post"
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>Yep, massive thanks to quest for taking the time to do them.
>Gives you such a good insight to the song and makes you
>appreciated it further.
>
>Thanks and hope we see some with game theory.

CO-SIGN!

  

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7. "Read while listening..."
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Read each respecitive liner note while listening to that respective record on HG. It paints a perfect picture of what and how things went down. Hell, even on myspace i put as my favorite books: "HG Liner Notes, Vol.1 & 2"

  

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9. "RE: 'Homegrown' liner notes appreciation post"
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This is pretty much the only Roots CD that I don't own. I've purchased all of their CD's including the Legendary EP. If I have this whole collection already, is it worth it to buy this 2CD set? Any bonus tracks or reworked versions? Anything special to it?

We are the ULTIMATE!!!!!

  

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13. "Mos definitely.."
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Theres a lot of unreleased/reworked/remixed/alternate versions of stuff on Homegrown, esp on Vol2. 2 good reasons to buy Homegrown.. Quicksand Millenium & The Giles Peterson Worldwide Sessions.

<----------------------------------------
"Consider me the entity within the industry without a history of spittin the epitomy of stupidity!" - Talib Kweli
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38. "the dub version of coming to break you off"
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and the seed/melting pot/web(or whatever) live on bbc IS THE SHIT!!!


those 2 songs alone make that album so worth it IMO

  

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10. "One Of My Favourite Things..."
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about The Roots is ?uest's extensive liner notes. The other thing that's a lot smaller but I still enjoy is that they actually number each track individually, and each album or EP continues where the last left off. Are there any other artists that do this?

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11. "RE: One Of My Favourite Things..."
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If there is then they are biters!

>about The Roots is ?uest's extensive liner notes. The other
>thing that's a lot smaller but I still enjoy is that they
>actually number each track individually, and each album or EP
>continues where the last left off. Are there any other
>artists that do this?

We are the ULTIMATE!!!!!

  

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12. "blackstar was doing that before the roots."
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i guess illadelph had a little of that, but blackstar was pre-tfa.

there comes a time in every mans life when he's gotta handle shit up on his own Can't depend on friends to help you in a squeeze, please they got problems of their own---slim kid3

  

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14. "Huh?"
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They number each track indiviually?

  

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20. "I think he was talking about the liner notes."
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n/m

<----------------------------------------
"Consider me the entity within the industry without a history of spittin the epitomy of stupidity!" - Talib Kweli
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33. "well since black star only have 1 album"
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they technically do number tracks continuousally, as do every group that only has 1 album.

rick

  

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18. "Yeah the track numbering is cool"
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If somewhat confusing.

Nicolay

  

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15. "One day, I'm going to sit down and read the whole thing."
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From start to finish. Probably on the toilet or something.

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16. "late pass."
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(i kid)

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17. "'Late pass' could be my middle name right now"
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Sun Jul-30-06 08:56 AM by Nicolay

  

          

I have a tough time keeping up with the world of late. So much to do, so little time...

Nicolay

  

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19. "RE: 'Late pass' could be my middle name right now"
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-yeah, but you get a pardon, though.

your work benefits us.

keep it up & thx.

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25. "I appreciate that! n/m"
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Nicolay

  

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30. "word up."
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_______________________

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Rjcc is code for "bitch-ass troll"

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23. "you and me both"
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"What do you do when you got ten 2-minute tasks and 10 minutes to deal with it? And for the first 5 you bullshitted?" (c) J-Live

"Your current frequencies of understanding outweigh that which has been given for you to understand." Saul Williams

  

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21. "They really are sweet as hell..."
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I have just pulled them out like a book.
It's great.

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24. "BIG co-sign"
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I had just picked them up at the library here in Ohio (my copies are in storage in Delaware). But check it, they only had the edited copies at the library. So I said to hell with that, checked 'em out anyway, and just read the liner notes.
Crazy that was not even a week ago.
Peace

"Your current frequencies of understanding outweigh that which has been given for you to understand." Saul Williams

  

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26. "Does anyone remember where ?uest says..."
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"Any good song takes X days to make"


I just wanted to show that to my homie who's always trying to rush.




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Dark like the side of the moon u don't see
But a lot's going on beneath the surface if u look closely

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29. "RE: Does anyone remember where ?uest says..."
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ask madlib

  

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31. "it's my toilet reading material."
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32. "yeah, it's most impressively insightful"
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and, yes, i'll buy quest's book when he gets around to it

  

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34. "i wanna hear double trouble with kweli so bad..."
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my heart aches

  

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45. "Hold on, there's one with Kweli?"
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"There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again."

  

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48. "Yeah, they had some Triple Trouble shit going on."
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That needs to come out here.

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36. "RE: Word up"
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I was so amped when I opened the 1st one and saw the extensive liner notes. I raced straight home from the store to read them joints..




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rl9
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39. "i wonder about the vinyl edition? same liner notes?"
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anyone know?

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40. "Nope..."
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Just the record.

I bought the record for the album cover.

I wish they made they made all the covers of TFA for vinyl.

  

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keste
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46. "RE:"
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yeha I took homegrown liner notes on my breaks with me at work,
which was a workout in itself with regard to 'How dilated ur eyes
get while reading these flea size fonts!?!??'
but u know,
worth putting up for. May I add that at the expense of others (?uest n so on..) I definitely enjoyed the Break u off dramas that I read.
I take that shiz on board now when I listen to that track (the only track I never warmed to on the album)
**a mighty fine album at that!

~ kes

  

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jazziebelle
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47. "now i see...."
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i was wondering why i should buy the same shit i already had...maybe ill go out and get it now...

  

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tonywashington
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49. "this was sitting right on top of my computer. it is getting played now."
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such a tight compilation. being a former dj smooth transitions pull me in. i love how this comp flows. i want to sit here and read the liner notes again but i don't think that would be cool at work. ha!

-T
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50. "yes"
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i bought the albums separately on different days and both days sat in kfc reading the notes getting all greasy and laughing out loud like a crazy person.

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