let me break it down:

1) Common's best album.
2) A hallmark in hip-hop production (props to everyone involved)
3) It hurts when I hear, " EC was my least favorite " - everyone (Common included)
4) Eff the haters. Refine yo tastes!

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Im not sure it was his best.. but it certainly isnt as bad as everyone thinks it is. I think its a very listenable and enjoyable CD.

1. Like Water for Chocolate - 5/5
2. Electric Circus - 5/5
3. Be - ??
4. Resurrection - ??
5. One Day It'll All Make Sense - 4.5/5
6. Can I Borrow a Dollar - 3/5 (I seriously don't even remember this one)

?? = Reeeely need to make up my mind.

I like EC, but i like LWFC and Be a lot more. I still think it's better then Mos Def's New Danger, which was kind of on that same, rock sounding hip hop vibe.

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Aint hungry no mo', so off me you feed.


You had a dope track, i guess opposites attract.
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Shit is tight.

JIMMI WAS A ROCK STAR IS THE SHIT, FUCK THE HATERS!!

everyone hides their face, safe behind a mask they wear...

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c'mon now, are you getting paid for saying something nice about it?

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some new music. WTF is going on this year?

I don't know if it's his best album but i certainly listened more to EC than i listen to BE. EC is one of my favourite hip hop albums.

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>I don't know if it's his best album but i certainly listened
>more to EC than i listen to BE. EC is one of my favourite hip
>hop albums.

Even right now, I will play EC before BE.

The mind is everything; what you think, you become. -Buddha

Knowledge of self is like Life after Death -Talib Kweli

How you gone have HIGH expectations but got LOW patience? -Mos Def

Peace, Luv, Power

no seriously.

go into rehab or somethin'

The mind is everything; what you think, you become. -Buddha

Knowledge of self is like Life after Death -Talib Kweli

How you gone have HIGH expectations but got LOW patience? -Mos Def

Peace, Luv, Power

ec's wiggity...wiggity...WACK!

The mind is everything; what you think, you become. -Buddha

Knowledge of self is like Life after Death -Talib Kweli

How you gone have HIGH expectations but got LOW patience? -Mos Def

Peace, Luv, Power

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definitely his best and boldest, no other hip hop of recent artist/record has the balls that ec record has. hip hop, psychadelia, soul, funk, punk all on one record. and done proper as well. com distancing himself from the project was probably because he didnt get the reaction he was expecting. the album was not difficult at all. to open minded individuals (which is what i thought okp cats were) the album, to me at least, it made complete sense.

it a shame it was misunderstood and the concept didnt cotton, it brought a whole new texture to hip hop, without meaning to sound like an arse about it.

a terrible shame,

maybe its a british thing, beatles, pink floyd, r.head et al

nevermind

rant over

It's far from being Com's best (which says alot on how dope Com's catalogue is).

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with everything u said, other than the fact that it's his best album (Resurrection undoubtedly takes the cake). EC is 10 times better than Be (even though Be is amazing) and cats really need to stop sleeping on it. I think people will eventually realize how incredible this album truly is oh, let's say, about 5-10 years from now..... Let me tell you this...in the long run, EC will be valued much more than Be.

This is how it goes in my books:

1. Resurrection (6/5, Yeah that's right i said it, 6!)
2. Like Water For Chocolate (4.5/5)
3. Electric Circus (4.5/5)
4. Be (4/5)
5. One Day It'll All Make Sense (3.5/5)
6. Can I Borrow A Dollar (3/5)

I'm pretty sure this will make sense to most of u, peace

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I didn't have a prob with Com experimenting, but EC just sounded forced to me. It didn't seem natural. It seemed like the lyrics took a backseat to the abstract rock music. It seemed like Com (and 'em) were so focused on making music that was "different" that they lost sight of making music that was good. EC overall (with some exceptions) just seemed uninspired.

I'll contrast this this the New Danger, which is a GREAT album. It was the same type of experimentation, but it seemed natural. I don't think Mos was trying to make something different. He was just trying to make good music and that's what came out.

Electric Circus = forced un-natural music
New Danger = good inspired music

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>I didn't have a prob with Com experimenting, but EC just
>sounded forced to me. It didn't seem natural. It seemed like
>the lyrics took a backseat to the abstract rock music.
>what came out.
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>Electric Circus = forced un-natural music
>New Danger = good inspired music


EC was lyrically one of Com's best album. It seemed very natural to me.

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one day
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BE
Can I
EC

Thats how it goes. This is the non-newbie consensus. "Can" I is classic for "Soul by the Pound" alone. Nobody knew Chicago even existed in the rap game til that video came out. "EC" was a miss fire. It had a few cuts, but it's like a person that uses big words...just because no one understands you, does not make what you are saying profound. Meaning just because it's not like anything anyone has ever heard does not make it automatically dope.

i've been into com since res too. so there. lol

The mind is everything; what you think, you become. -Buddha

Knowledge of self is like Life after Death -Talib Kweli

How you gone have HIGH expectations but got LOW patience? -Mos Def

Peace, Luv, Power

is the sheeit.

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C'mon man.

EC is so organic and passionate. Common was so hungry on the album-- listen to effin' "electric wire hustler flower." It is lyrically superior than most of his albums. In BE, it sounds like he was being mindful of what he was saying and what he wasnt -- much more of a conscious enforcement.

And honestly, The New Danger is no where comparable to EC. Listen again please.

post lwfc, tfa etc camp soulaquarian and comp just didnt meet anybodys expectations, fizzled out, fell short whatever

ec was too leftfield
phren was no tfa, a slight anti-climax, tipping point - reached for the sky at least
d'angelo got fat
blackstar only managed supreme, supreme
kweli, has anyone seen the never been in love vid, im still pissing my pant with laughter, andre3000 must be too
jayzilla siphoned all the force energy from hiphop, got w/the b and quit
com be is crap

guess the revolution will have to wait.
i hear rawkus is back - dont hold ur breathe tho

long live atfermath!!!(and hi-tek)

Everything the Soulaquarians do as a group is deemed Eclectic and too different e.g. 1st Born Second, EC. If you ask me, everything they do is and will be constantly fresh and original. You can listen to it forever and it still be good to your ears.


You can swim in the Sea of Knowledge and still come out dry.

Everything the Soulaquarians do as a group is deemed Eclectic and too different e.g. 1st Born Second, EC. If you ask me, everything they do is and will be constantly fresh and original. You can listen to it forever and it still be good to your ears.


You can swim in the Sea of Knowledge and still come out dry.

Everything the Soulaquarians do as a group is deemed Eclectic and too different e.g. 1st Born Second, EC. If you ask me, everything they do is and will be constantly fresh and original. You can listen to it forever and it still be good to your ears.


You can swim in the Sea of Knowledge and still come out dry.

Everything the Soulaquarians do as a group is deemed Eclectic and too different e.g. 1st Born Second, EC. If you ask me, everything they do is and will be constantly fresh and original. You can listen to it forever and it still be good to your ears.


You can swim in the Sea of Knowledge and still come out dry.

>d'angelo got fat

That was some funny isht!! Classic

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Electric Wire Hustle Flower was the shit

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Be seems too carefully planned out. It's cool but i think EC was organic, you could feel in your chest(c)Com.
EC was much better to me--nothing compares to Soulpower and Jimi was a rockstar.





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My thing is this cats got turned off to electric not because it was a bad album...but because it was different. That was it. I mean it was silly. I was working at a record store at the time this album came out - it flew off the shelves the first week...then afterwards the sales just slowed down. You want to know what my biggest complaint was?

"Was it bad?"

"No...its just...umm, (then looking to friends for approval)...umm different."

I mean seriously, I honestly think that the real beef with the album was it went places other cats were afraid to, and people trying to step in line with hip hop aesthetic were too afraid to embrace it. And on top of that because "Like Water" didn't get the acclaim it did - people were probably expecting Com to stick to "a formula" in hopes that he would have gotten his props by just repeating...but seriously do you want music and artistry or do you want repetitive "formulas"?

I don't think Electric was his best - I liked Resurrection merely for the nostalgia in being able to attribute a fusion of lyricism and jazz beats that was only present in acts like Tribe. But I think in the scope of rehash, beats, and overused formulas, and gimmicks in hip hop in the time Electric Circus was an expressive freestyle in a world where other cats were reading from "the book". Common just had the nuts to go against that and do what he felt.

I mean seriously, Mos Def did Blackjack Johnson...does that mean he lost his flow? No it just means he found another vehicle of expression.

As far as Com on Electric, his delivery was still there. The messages were still there (especially in songs like "I Got a Right Ta" and "SoulPower") I mean seriously, cats were just on some "oh Erykah made him"/"if its not familiar its not valid" bullshit. Seriously, with the bullshit that was on the market at the time, and still is on the market now Electric Circus was simply a divergence of creative expression with the same integrity Common has always had as a hip hop artist. I mean shit Jean Michel Basquiat while "on some other shit" did volumes to establishing graffiti as a valid art form. Did he adhere to everyone's ideals of how hip hop should look, act and "be". No - but nonetheless his work speaks volumes, and that's how I saw Electric Circus. An eclectic fork in the road from the repetitive, materialistic, bling bullshit that was flooding people's ears.

Hip Hop is all about representing with originality - and when people forget that, they forget hip hop and albums like Electric which mix things up every once in a while.

Reposted from reply 17 for your convience.

I didn't have a prob with Com experimenting, but EC just sounded forced to me. It didn't seem natural. It seemed like the lyrics took a backseat to the abstract rock music. It seemed like Com (and 'em) were so focused on making music that was "different" that they lost sight of making music that was good. EC overall (with some exceptions) just seemed uninspired.

I'll contrast this this the New Danger, which is a GREAT album. It was the same type of experimentation, but it seemed natural. I don't think Mos was trying to make something different. He was just trying to make good music and that's what came out.

Electric Circus = forced un-natural music
New Danger = good inspired music

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>let me break it down:
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>1) Common's best album.
>2) A hallmark in hip-hop production (props to everyone
>involved)
>3) It hurts when I hear, " EC was my least favorite " -
>everyone (Common included)
>4) Eff the haters. Refine yo tastes!
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I personally enjoyed the Electric Circus and I give Com credit for at least trying something new instead of doing another simple routine album. It's about time MCs explored new territory and experience other sets of music culture (not just turntables, bass drums, and old school samples).

I think the only reason why fans hate it is probably because they weren't exactly "prepared" for this album as much as Com was. What I mean is, the fans weren't ready to explore new territory as much as Com was. I think this affected him on a personal note as to how the fans were so quick to call him a "sellout" and no longer requested to listen to his music just because he wouldn't make "another Res." Maybe that's why he said EC was his least favorite album.

me. you and liberation is a classic!

i can TRULY understand why people dont like it, but that is my favorite album, as a musician i like to listen to the production from tha finest and this album had ?uest and dilla at the desk. Jus ONE listen to "i am music" and man tht was jus crazy, the production and tha way com flowed on the track was intense.

OK , there may be no "club bangers" expt "come close" and that is maybe why peopel dont like it, in these times we be at, people want commercial tracks too much and dont have time to listen to different styles and stuff, so i completly understand y common went to the BE style.

To conclude, EC was flawless (as was LWFC). People cant say that an album is CRAP unless it actually is. By that, i mean if the rapper cant spit two bars without slippin up, or the song is actually bad, ie. drums outa time or song all outa tune, which i can honstly say i have never ever heard a crap song (altho maybe "ass like that-eminem)

Just think twice be4 sayin a song or album is crap, cos "crap" is a lot different from saying that it is "not my taste" . Coms album isnt crap, its just not a lot of peoeples taste.... even common himself??)

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EC was a big album, and I'll admit that when I first heard it - I wasnt feeling it. But after picking it up again after some time and giving it another listen - I was hooked. It's not his best album - but its in the Top 4. I mean, have you listened to "Electric Wire Hustle Flower"? Thats a tune and a half. And "New Wave" - that was sick...

Good album, but not his best.

I don't know if it's his best--but it wasn't a bad album by any means! I don't understand why people knock that album so much. Every artist has to go through change--it's natural. You can't keep doin the same thing over and over. I see the vision that Com had for this album--he was tryin' to expand hip-hop--take it to a place it had never been before...and not only do I respect him for that, I thank him for that. That album had some bangers on there.

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