Was listening to ?uests interview on Blackbeat.com and he confirms that roots have now left Geffen.

Just wanted to say thanks for that interview and look forward to see where ya heading next. Looks like Okayplayer.com is gonna grow and grow.

Does this mean Game Theory is coming out on the new label or is that contracted as the last album on Geffen?

Or did they sign to a yet to be announced label?

Or did they sign to a yet to be announced label?

"Give it here Geffen Records, I'm off the handle
Cut the check, and yo it better be as heavy as anvils"

(c) Black Thought--"Don't Say Nuthin"

"Is it not one father that all of us have? Is it not one God that has created us? Why is it that we deal treacherously with one another?" --Malachi 2:10

quest says they r free agents with a bidding war going on at minute, yet he's still undecided over the idea of being independant.

Says they have 2 choose in 2 weeks or so.

Recommend listening to the interview coz its got a lot of interesting stuff on it and betterto hear it from the man himself.

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Then listen to this weeks show. (u can skip to quests interview)

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funny

your WORK must not care

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Toss the anchoooor!!! Thurr She bloooows!!!

This is big news. Now I know Jay ain't gonna holla' ::wink::wink::nudge::nudge::

They should sign to Diplomat Records.

Yes Sir.

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Sign 'em up HOVA! Now.

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Gotta luv ?uest for the info. D's woodshedding for the new album. Can't wait for that!

that doesnt want them to sign w/ Roc-a-fella...i don't want any of those clowns on a roots album

F'real. I hope they sign to either Atlantic or Stones Throw.

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Madlib and Quest collabing? Dreams will be fulfilled!

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Why would someone put a group that is way bigger than them on their Indie label. Stone's Throw's biggest star is Madlib, and he is not on the same level with the Roots at all when it comes to records sold, concert tickets, etc.

oh please! I'd shoot myself! (J/K)

...what kinda shit would that be?!?

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That's what I'm saying. And it's still his best performance on a track.

please get the sarcasm this time!

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My money is on Def Jam.... either under Rocafella or GOOD Music....

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Actually, GOOD music is nowhere...

John Legend is on GOOD / Columbia
Common is on GOOD / Geffen
Kanye is on GOOD / Rocafella / Def Jam


I was saying, since Jay likes the Roots and works with them, he can sign em on Def Jam, and then have him under either the Roc or GOOD (or both) umbrellas...

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check the resume

organix-93
(from the ground up)-94
do you want more?!!???!-95
illadelph halflife-96
things fall apart-99
(the legendary)-99
the roots come alive-99
phrenology-2002
the tipping point-2004
(the roots present...) 2004
homegrown: the beginne

do your thang quest.

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I should've had a "World exclusive" drop over that question.



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i think it would work out great for both parties. the already good relationship between ?uest and jayz is all the more reason to make this happen. that may have been part of the problem at geffen, just the artist and the suits not seeing eye to eye on the project. i think jay would follow up on his promises unlike geffen did, make it happen.

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thats a lil risky.....

?uest has a tough decision on his hands though....the roots could resurrect Def Jam....sounds like a good challenge...

or go independent...which is a challenge as well....

Wherever they go, I want them to still tour all over the place....

bleek and young gunz were both flops, but they were there already.

thats why i think the roots would be a good aquisition. it would
really give jay a chance to sign someone and turn them into platinum.

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good for them. its actually past due. the next deal should be a boutique label involved.

random nuttiness:

- boutique label
- distribution deal ( which i guess(emphasis on guess) goes with boutique label)
- production deal (for access to other artists on the label)
- increased profit sharing w/ parent label
- increased control of single/video selection

or

call MF Doom or Cormega and figure out how to eat lovely from going Indie.




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All of the job functions that I was hired for are done overseas. And my managers aren't including me in group e-mails. Also, I haven't received my paycheck in the last month and a half.

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...in another post. The last Roots record for Geffen:

home grown: a survival guide to the history of the roots-05

He didn't actually say it, but listed this one amongst Roots releases. Can someone confirm this as the last Roots/Geffen album?

if you listen to the interview he says they bought out their contract.... and he talks about the main reason game theory isnt coming out this year is because they dont know which label it will be released under.

geffen is now a thing of the past (thank god)

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...be released under? Okayplayer records?

what is home grown?

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Yeah what is 'Home Grown'? and glad to hear Game Theory is out on new label coz hopefully it will get promotion etc it will surely deserve.

...amongst Roots album releases so I'm thinking this is a 'Best of' type piece to fulfill the last album for Geffen.

Check this:
http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=5&topic_id=295336&mesg_id=295336&listing_type=search#298024

organix-93
do you want more-95
illadelph halflife-96
things fall apart-99
the roots come alive-99
phernology-02
the tipping point-04
home grown: a survival guide to the history of the roots-05
game theory-06

anyone know anymore (on Home Grown), or is this a classic quest post designed to confuse.

...what that guy said!?

"I don't know Butchie instead"
-John Monad

now that jay is there, this shit might actually pop off

ps and reg running BET doesnt hurt

exactly how much control geffen has had over the makings of the albums and the final products (not the mention lousy promotion, choice of singles etc). if they had more power/control would they be making sightly different sounding music?

I seriously hope that the Roots DO NOT sign with Roc-A-Fella. It's not because I don't want to see them with a major label. It's just that it would be terrible for them. I want to see the Roots go plat.

Seriously, Roc-A-Fella sucks at promoting their artists and releasing music from their artists. And now that Jigga is running Def Jam I can only assume that he'll run it the same way.

How many Roc artists can you say have truly released albums on a regular basis and got promotion to get at least a little mainstream shine?

Roc artists who are adequately promoted:
Jay-Z
Kanye West

Roc artists who are not adequately promoted:
Amil (she's not there anymore but she was for years and never released)
DJ Clue
Foxy Brown
Freeway
Beans
Bleek
Peedi Crack
N.O.R.E.
Young Gunz

I mean Roc-A-Fella was basically just a label created for Jay-Z to release his stuff. They never did anything with anyone else. Kanye is just a happy accident.

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i can't believe what i'm reading from some of you other cats. def jam? please.

i hope they go indie and do latifah numbers (+).

Amil (she's not there anymore but she was for years and never released)
DJ Clue
Foxy Brown
Freeway
Beans
Bleek
Peedi Crack
N.O.R.E.
Young Gunz

those artists couldn't go plat even with good promotion!!

Jay-Z
Kanye West

could go plat without promotion

going plat doesn't always come to those with good promotion, you need talent too! Plus songs that are catchy and pop-ee!!

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>Amil (she's not there anymore but she was for years and never
>released)
>DJ Clue
>Foxy Brown
>Freeway
>Beans
>Bleek
>Peedi Crack
>N.O.R.E.
>Young Gunz

as much as i don't like him, beans is fire when he tries hard enough.

>those artists couldn't go plat even with good promotion!!
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>going plat doesn't always come to those with good promotion,
>you need talent too! Plus songs that are catchy and pop-ee!!

don't mean to summon the hackneyed britney spears reference here, but yea. she shows u don't need talent at all. just catchy songs and GREAT promotion (i.e. press). hate to say it but promotion is at least something like 85% of it.

please no def jam and PLEASE NO ROCAFELLA

>I seriously hope that the Roots DO NOT sign with Roc-A-Fella.
> It's not because I don't want to see them with a major label.
> It's just that it would be terrible for them. I want to see
>the Roots go plat.
>
>Seriously, Roc-A-Fella sucks at promoting their artists and
>releasing music from their artists. And now that Jigga is
>running Def Jam I can only assume that he'll run it the same
>way.
>
>How many Roc artists can you say have truly released albums on
>a regular basis and got promotion to get at least a little
>mainstream shine?
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>Roc artists who are adequately promoted:
>Jay-Z
>Kanye West
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>Roc artists who are not adequately promoted:
>Amil (she's not there anymore but she was for years and never
>released)
>DJ Clue
>Foxy Brown
>Freeway
>Beans
>Bleek
>Peedi Crack
>N.O.R.E.
>Young Gunz

Name one of the above artist who released an album that SHOULD have crazy promotion? None of their album's were better than Jay's worst one. IMO.

>>I seriously hope that the Roots DO NOT sign with
>Roc-A-Fella.
>> It's not because I don't want to see them with a major
>label.
>> It's just that it would be terrible for them. I want to
>see
>>the Roots go plat.
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>>Seriously, Roc-A-Fella sucks at promoting their artists and
>>releasing music from their artists. And now that Jigga is
>>running Def Jam I can only assume that he'll run it the same
>>way.
>>
>>How many Roc artists can you say have truly released albums
>on
>>a regular basis and got promotion to get at least a little
>>mainstream shine?
>>
>>Roc artists who are adequately promoted:
>>Jay-Z
>>Kanye West
>>
>>Roc artists who are not adequately promoted:
>>Amil (she's not there anymore but she was for years and
>never
>>released)
>>DJ Clue
>>Foxy Brown
>>Freeway
>>Beans
>>Bleek
>>Peedi Crack
>>N.O.R.E.
>>Young Gunz
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>Name one of the above artist who released an album that SHOULD
>have crazy promotion? None of their album's were better than
>Jay's worst one. IMO.

I would argue that it's not about quality of album. A lot of sorry-ass rappers make sorry-ass albums, but get good promotion and push plat or multi-plat numbers. If you're running a business you need to be pushing your artists because that is the only way that they will sell.

But onto the point that you were making. Beans and State Property are both decent and should have done better then they did. DJ Clue put out a couple of nice compilations (if you like that sorta stuff) and could have done better. (I mean isht, it's EASY to push a compliation.) I'm not a fan of N.O.R.E., but he could have definitely gone to superstar status with the right promotion/marketing. Roc just dropped the ball.

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Landspeed they'll be good. I can even see them on KOCH getting about $8 a CD. If Jim Jones can sell 250,000 at that price, the Roots will make a killing.

Somebody's gotta get that guy back in the game.

.....Rapster, Narvarre, or Studio Distribution; dat'z gonna be my prediction, cut out da middle man (which meanz more money & freedom for dem) & go independent iz da way theze dayz.

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They're on an urban signing spree. They could move OKP Recs there, own everything, get indie money and freedom, but still use the promotion resources of a major (WEA/WMG)...

They've done huge with Mike Jones, they have Dips, Rap-A-Lot and a lot more...

I'm them? That's who I'm calling...

Only da southern & mid-west rap actz are under Asylum, Elektra haz been clozed, and Atlantic & Lightyear are da only one'z signin' all da otha typez of muzik actz.

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just so happens *most* of the artists they've signed have been midwest/south. The south gives the quickest cash return right now, and the mike jones project more or less fell into their lap. It was finished, all WMG had to do was sign and release. RapALot was another easy situation, where they had 2-3 finished projects plus catalog ready to release and sell.

The other stuff you wrote is nonsense. I said WEA b/c I've been in this business for a long ass time and still call some labels by their old names (WEA i/o WMG, UNI i/o UMVD, Polygram i/o UMVD, EMI i/o EMD etc). Obviously Elektra is only a catalog label now (imprint only), Lightyear doesn't count as a real label. Select-O-Hits is more of a label than Lightyear with their yearly N2Deep and crappy reggae releases. Atlantic has Geffen/IGA aspirations, but unfortunately they can't sell albums to save their lives, only radio airplay (see Fat Joe, Twista, Missy, even TI should be selling a LOT more based on his airplay).

And please, for the love of the baby Jesus, children everywhere, and my own sanity, PLEASE start typing in english. Judging by your posts you work in music retail, and have some good insights, but your child-like writing skills are worse than Maxxxxx's. I know it's got to be 100x harder to write with all the added bullshit, instead of just writing something and be done...

...the Roots are already independent?

Whomever they choose, the Roots should at the very least be treated as the developed, 13-plus-years-in-the-game crew that they are.

If they're treated like the bastard stepchild again, what's the point of switching?

That's yet another reason why I don't want them to go with an independent. I don't think an independent has the reach of the bigger (read: richer) labels. Especially since the Roots reach is already worldwide.

I work for a small software consulting firm at the moment, where my previous two gigs were for larger, more corporate shops. Those larger companies had more money and a larger scope that yielded far more substantial results. While I may know all the top brass at my current company on a personal level, the breadth of our business is significantly smaller by comparison.

The point I'm making is that if you want to increase your output, an independent has far fewer resources to tap in to to accomplish such a task.

"I don't know Butchie instead"
-John Monad

How come nobody's mentioned the infamous Rawkus Records???

I've heard that Rawkus is expected to be up and running again soon. Perhaps that's what Mr. Trotter (Black Thought) meant when he spit:
"Give it here Geffen Records, I'm off the handle...
Cut the check, and yo it better be as heavy as anvils",
being that the actual Rawkus label does include an anvil. Plus, then we could expect more "joint" efforts between The Roots and Mos Def & Kweli, of Blackstar; Who, by the way, desperately need to release the long overdue follow-up to their initial release!

rawkus, while good to see them back, probably won't do too well this time around. the first run, they were in the right place as all of these great rappers were just getting started... hopefully it works out for them, but lightning doesn't normally strike twice.


no dice on the sig.