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grandchamp2952
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"How Much Do You Hate Kanye's Verse On "They Say": Vent Here..."


  

          

"What in the fuck was that, kanye?"

  

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I'd rather listen to anyone else on that track
Jun 08th 2005
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RE: I'd rather listen to anyone else on that track
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      RE: I'd rather listen to anyone else on that track
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      RE: I'd rather listen to anyone else on that track
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      excellent point
Jun 11th 2005
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yes...yes indeedt Here...
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Hey friend, I think you're off on that one
Jun 08th 2005
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RE: Hey friend, I think you're off on that one
Jun 08th 2005
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RE: How Much Do You Hate Kanye's Verse On "They Say": Vent Here...
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RE: How Much Do You Hate Kanye's Verse On "They Say": Vent Here...
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      RE: How Much Do You Hate Kanye's Verse On "They Say": Vent Here...
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           RE: How Much Do You Hate Kanye's Verse On "They Say": Vent Here...
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           The Funny Thing Is The Chappelle Show Dvd Has Better Sound Quality
Jun 12th 2005
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not only that but "GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO"
Jun 08th 2005
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RE: not only that but "GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO"
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RE: not only that but "GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO"
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RE: How Much Do You Hate Kanye's Verse On "They Say": Vent Here...
Jun 08th 2005
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kanye of G.O.O.D....meet JD of SoSoDef...JD...kanye
Jun 08th 2005
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y'all get anchored posts whenever y'all say Kanye name?
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Everytime he opens his mouth...
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RE: Everytime he opens his mouth...
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      RE: Everytime he opens his mouth...
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RE: How Much Do You Hate Kanye's Verse On "They Say": Vent Here...
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But it's not just that ONE VERSE
Jun 09th 2005
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      RE:you guys are touchier than a fucking vaginal rash
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           his squeeling is an *addition* ?
Jun 11th 2005
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thast little squeak at the end of his lines
Jun 08th 2005
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exactly
Jun 10th 2005
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i agree
Jun 08th 2005
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Why take Consequence's verse out
Jun 08th 2005
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RE: How Much Do You Hate Kanye's Verse On "They Say": Vent Here...
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RE: How Much Do You Hate Kanye's Verse On "They Say": Vent Here...
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you were all saying how you hated
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it damn near ruined the album for me......
Jun 08th 2005
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i know what yall sayin....but
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WOAH! There's some serious hateration up in herre!
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RE: WOAH! There's some serious hateration up in herre!
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cosign
Jun 12th 2005
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cosign...
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RE: WOAH! There's some serious hateration up in herre!
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....call me crazy...again....but
Jun 08th 2005
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Kanye = Kobe
Jun 09th 2005
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WHOA...
Jun 11th 2005
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This post is ghey
Jun 09th 2005
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ooo, a Consequence fan club meeting!
Jun 09th 2005
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Kanye ruins it....
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RE: ooo, a Consequence fan club meeting!
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      he sold like 200k on his last album
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           RE: he sold like 200k on his last album
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RE: How Much Do You Hate Kanye's Verse On "They Say": Vent Here...
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RE: How Much Do You Hate Kanye's Verse On "They Say": Vent Here...
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RE: How Much Do You Hate Kanye's Verse On "They Say": Vent Here...
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his voice just didn't go good with the track
Jun 09th 2005
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shit
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RE: How Much Do You Hate Kanye's Verse On "They Say": Vent Here...
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Fucking hell. Get over it. Some of yall need a life ... or a girlfriend.
Jun 10th 2005
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They should probably release a "remix" with Quence on it.
Jun 10th 2005
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RE: How Much Do You Hate Kanye's Verse On "They Say": Vent Here...
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i liked it
Jun 11th 2005
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I'm not a fan of his verses.. but the SONG is FIRE..
Jun 11th 2005
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He should have "pras'd" himself and put his verse last
Jun 11th 2005
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lol
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It's not bad. The only really bad thing about it...
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RE: Ha!
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Like Water
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1. "I'd rather listen to anyone else on that track"
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Wed Jun-08-05 08:10 AM by Like Water

  

          

Kanye West is a fucking... just ERRRRR... HE FUCKED UP "BE" FOR ME (the whole GODDAMN ALBUM WITH ONE VERSE)

  

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grandchamp2952
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2. "RE: I'd rather listen to anyone else on that track"
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it's not the fact he replaced a better verse with his own
it's not the wackness of his lyrical content
it's not the helium pitched voice & gay ass slur...
it's not the obviously rushed & botched delivery

it's the fact he thinks he can drop some bullshit like that over an otherwise tight song & get away with it, like nobody'd notice...

he completely ruined the song.

  

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3. "RE: I'd rather listen to anyone else on that track"
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yeah, what's up with that?!! definitely ruins the track for me.

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6. "RE: I'd rather listen to anyone else on that track"
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>it's not the fact he replaced a better verse with his own
>it's not the wackness of his lyrical content
>it's not the helium pitched voice & gay ass slur...
>it's not the obviously rushed & botched delivery
>
>it's the fact he thinks he can drop some bullshit like that
>over an otherwise tight song & get away with it, like nobody'd
>notice...
>
>he completely ruined the song.

You know what is the icing on the cake for me?!? He got the nerve to act like that shit was hot too.. talkin bout "And this verse so crazy I'ma have to go check myself in, again."

Yeah Kanye.. crazy... its crazy how wack that fuckin verse was...

A remix is DEFINATELY in order to salvage the classic potential of that song!!

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53. "excellent point"
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n/m

  

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4. "yes...yes indeedt Here..."
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return to your home citizens

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5. "Hey friend, I think you're off on that one"
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Kanye's verse is cool.
It's not his best work, but it's still good.
It aint like he went all Nelly and ish . . .

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7. "RE: Hey friend, I think you're off on that one"
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Wed Jun-08-05 11:17 AM by mshearer87

  

          

I'm inbetween on this one. When I first heard it, I was pissed. But after listening to it and the album, oh, I don't know, 10,000 times, it has grown on me a bit. It is definately catchy.

That said, it sounds like he had about 3 minutes before the album went to print and threw up this verse. Sounds totally rushed, and it sounds like he recorded it over the actual song.

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8. "RE: How Much Do You Hate Kanye's Verse On "They Say": Vent Here..."
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that verse alone has got me skipping that track even though its one of my favourites on BE. That squeeky voice - fuck me, kanye fucked up badly on that. Someone out there - could someone do a remix with just the two com verses, and fuck off the consequence and the kanye ones. I wanna re-record BE without live food and a remixed they say. aNyone wanna help me out?

  

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10. "RE: How Much Do You Hate Kanye's Verse On "They Say": Vent Here..."
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I say keep Consequences verse on They Say, but definitely take their lazy behinds to the studio and record Food. How lame was that? They already know we gonna cop the Chappelle Season 2. Not recording "Food" is what killed it for me. That's just laziness. And then they had the nerve to add the fake crowd applause at the end of the song. The applause sounds like they sampled it off of Mike Tyson punch out ...

Kanye was teh gift and the curse of common's BE ...

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16. "RE: How Much Do You Hate Kanye's Verse On "They Say": Vent Here..."
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relax man.

they did record a studio version of the food, and if you heard it you'd know why they kept the live one.

everyone's acting like this ruined their year. damn.

>I say keep Consequences verse on They Say, but definitely
>take their lazy behinds to the studio and record Food. How
>lame was that? They already know we gonna cop the Chappelle
>Season 2. Not recording "Food" is what killed it for me.
>That's just laziness. And then they had the nerve to add the
>fake crowd applause at the end of the song. The applause
>sounds like they sampled it off of Mike Tyson punch out ...
>
>Kanye was teh gift and the curse of common's BE ...

  

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18. "RE: How Much Do You Hate Kanye's Verse On "They Say": Vent Here..."
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yeah the studio version was worse cos it was slower and seemed lazyly recorded, the live one had more energy. But still it don't fit the album AT ALL. Suddenly in the middle of a studio album u got some not great quality recording of a live set on a TV show! I mean it just don't work. I say re-record food in a studio properly.

  

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56. "The Funny Thing Is The Chappelle Show Dvd Has Better Sound Quality"
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I think they just took some garbage ass mp3, cause it sounds no different from the mp3 i got the day after that chappelle show in february or some shit.

When I heard the dvd, A) no censors and B) everything is crystal clear. I could be wrong, but there is a major difference there between what live version got on the disc and what was on the dvd.

I don't mind that it's live, but the sound quality of the joint is terrible.

Fuck a David Stern

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9. "not only that but "GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO""
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i cant tell you how much i wish that wasnt on that song

  

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11. "RE: not only that but "GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO""
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super, I understand what you're saying, but they did do a studio "Food." It just didn't sound nearly as good as the live version.

The studio version was being played on (at least) Sirius MONTHS ago.

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64. "RE: not only that but "GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO""
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he sounds like he gets winded in the middle of all the goes.

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12. "RE: How Much Do You Hate Kanye's Verse On "They Say": Vent Here..."
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Kanye would be dope if his mouth was still sewn shut.

  

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17. "kanye of G.O.O.D....meet JD of SoSoDef...JD...kanye"
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there is nothing more irritating than JD showing up with his little hehheh on every effin song his label puts out...kanye is gettin' there with his cameos...eff it...can't even call them cameos no mo'...CSense stands by itself...has so for a decade plus...don't need kanye spread his jam all over the record...i luved the lyrics on through the wire, but dude is nothing more than a punchline lyricists...KWEST - a lil' advice patna...quit throwing your two cents in and let com flow over jay dilla - real people is the topper on BE...

  

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13. "y'all get anchored posts whenever y'all say Kanye name?"
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Sheesh, move the fuck on.

  

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14. "Everytime he opens his mouth..."
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a piece of that album dies.

  

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15. "RE: Everytime he opens his mouth..."
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His verse only sounds bad becuause of that thing he does with his voice..Other than that its an average verse just like Consequences on the leaked version

  

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19. "RE: Everytime he opens his mouth..."
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>His verse only sounds bad becuause of that thing he does with
>his voice..Other than that its an average verse just like
>Consequences on the leaked version

^^Agree with all of this!! I would have been perfectly content if common carried that whole song on his own with no guest appearance, almost everything Com spits on They Say is fuckin quotable...

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20. "RE: How Much Do You Hate Kanye's Verse On "They Say": Vent Here..."
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people need to chill on the Kanye hate. yes the verse wasnt classic, but it wasnt a horrible, piece of shit verse that alot of you are claiming. "kanye kills the album everytime he opens his mout," getthefouttahere. he produced what could be a classic album. geez




o, BTW, i think the squeeky shit he was doing was a nod to comms old days.

  

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38. "But it's not just that ONE VERSE"
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It's his work on hooks too...

"la la la la laaaa.... laaa laaa" (chi-city) *CRINGE*
"no no not toniiiight." (the food) *CRINGE*
"go go go go" (...) *CRINGE*

His presence on chi-city as well as the food make those songs virtually unlistenable to me.

  

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41. "RE:you guys are touchier than a fucking vaginal rash"
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he ADDS to Chi City, and gives The Food a sickass hook, that makes those songs more listenable to me, his part in Go is minimal and his verse on They Sey is average. thats 3 out of 4, not bad.

  

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54. "his squeeling is an *addition* ?"
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fuck no


He can't sing
and he sings

often

and It's fucking attrocious.

  

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21. "thast little squeak at the end of his lines"
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where he gets all high pitched was bull! one of the best tracks on the album.... but then you hear Kanye wtf!!?

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45. "exactly"
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his verse itself doesn't even bother me too much. he's never blown me away with miraculous rhymes, and this one isn't any different. but that high pitched at the end of each line bugs the living fuck out of me.

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22. "i agree"
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it was a terrible move to cut consequence's verse.

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23. "Why take Consequence's verse out"
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Cons' verse was dope. Why in the hell did he take it off to put in his worst verse yet. I'm usually a Kanye supporter, but man, that verse was a major faux pas.

  

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24. "RE: How Much Do You Hate Kanye's Verse On "They Say": Vent Here..."
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wasn't really feeling his "Go, go, go, go and on the counta three" either.

  

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25. "RE: How Much Do You Hate Kanye's Verse On "They Say": Vent Here..."
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A lot.
Call me crazy, but I think Electric Circus is better.
Kanye can't fuck with Dilla.

  

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26. "you were all saying how you hated"
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quence's verse when the album first leaked.

and i didn't say anything, because wow, he came with it.

of course, kanye did not.

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27. "it damn near ruined the album for me......"
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They say was one of my top 3 or 4 on the CD


i popped in the CD expecting to hear the version with Consequence from the advance

and I stumbled upon one of the worst verses on any Common song

i had to play it again to make sure he said that stupid shit



kanye needs to re-evaluate himself if he really thinks that verse was worth putting on such an otherwise quality CD (not classic IMO)


not to mention putting his footprint on damn near every track on the disc

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28. "i know what yall sayin....but"
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its one verse dont let that ruin the album for yall

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29. "WOAH! There's some serious hateration up in herre!"
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I was actually feelin' his verse. I think Kanye's lyrics are entertaining. I guess I must not be listening to the same album 'cause I don't see what was so HORRIBLE about it.

  

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sweeneykovar
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42. "RE: WOAH! There's some serious hateration up in herre!"
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cosign on the hateration

  

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58. "cosign"
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this complaining is ridiculous, it comes off as whining. I didn't mind Kanye's verse, Consequence's was better, but some of the complaints are nitpicking. Enjoy the album.


"everybody gets hated on. a nigga on this board hated on me because I hated him for hatin!" -- Darryl Reeves

  

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60. "cosign..."
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i felt it at LEAST as much as consequence's verse, but i do agree with the live food being kinda outta place, i'd rather had studio cut, the last verse is worth the slow pace to me...

NC WHAT??!?!?

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63. "RE: WOAH! There's some serious hateration up in herre!"
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>I was actually feelin' his verse. I think Kanye's lyrics are
>entertaining. I guess I must not be listening to the same
>album 'cause I don't see what was so HORRIBLE about it.

co-sign

  

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MiracleRic
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30. "....call me crazy...again....but"
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i aint like "they say" that much with just com on it, yea he ripped it, but that beat is blah, john legend sounds a lil...weird, kanye wasnt that bad but he mos def ruined the feel of the song, com wasted a lot of hot lines on that song imo, that song gets played 50% of the time, i think the two worst beats were Real People and They Say, that shit sounded like he sampled some Kenny G or something and called soulful cause com was spitting heat on it

The best songs to me are

Faithful, Love Is, Its Your World, Corners, Go, Be,

Chi-city has grown on me a lot so i like it more than they say and real people

the food is ill, i liked both versions, and at first the live one bothered me b/c i felt it was weird too, but after about 10 listens i really felt like it added spice to the album

the only track that actually felt out of place to me was testify, i actually kinda like the song but its a weird song and kinda messes up the cohesiveness just a tad

this album is borderline classic in my opinion, only time will tell

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MarVeL
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31. "Kanye = Kobe"
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I make this association acknowledging the fact that every okayplayer seems to hate him. Even though Kanye and Kobe are both helping there respective industries...



okay maybe kobe isn't helping the nba... but kanye is helping hip-hop. Whether he's an egotistical sumumabish or not.

  

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51. "WHOA..."
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Sat Jun-11-05 12:36 PM by by_tor

          

>i think the two
>worst beats were Real People and They Say, that shit sounded
>like he sampled some Kenny G or something and called soulful
>cause com was spitting heat on it

this shit right here could get you hurt if you speakin' like this in real life, so lemme just advise you to keep these statements in the digital realm, cuz a serious ahmad jamal fan really might shank you for the comparison you just made...

  

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OminousEther
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32. "This post is ghey"
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______________________________
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emeng
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33. "ooo, a Consequence fan club meeting!"
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looks like all 30 of you are here, even!

if you guys REALLY think that highly of that album that 1 minute of kanye rhyming ruined it for you, then i'd say Kanye outdid himself on this album, because he DID exec produce the whole thing. if you guys care THAT much about Consequence and his standard "the industry did me dirty" rap, then i'd say you guys need hugs and that you shouldn't have downloaded that bootleg to begin with. and if you guys hate Kanye that much then he really must really be doing something right.

"They Say" has Kanye on it, that means it has the potential to be a popular single and can have a video with Kanye in it, which means that it can give Common more exposure on BET and MTV, which means he can sell more records, which means he can afford to make more music for you folks to hate on.

Bottom line, no Kanye, Common's career would be floundering. He'd be rapping about how the industry took him under. Kind of like some other rapper I can think of.

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34. "Kanye ruins it...."
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mos definitly

Integrity is the Cornerstone of Artistry...

  

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47. "RE: ooo, a Consequence fan club meeting!"
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could you clutch Kanye's nut's just a lil closer please I think the Windy City cool lake breezes are still getting to them. Com's career would not be floundering because just as soon as Com went to Kanye he could have gone to any number of other hot producers and made BE. But why go elsewhere when Chicago's got the production golden child of the moment (let's remind everyone that before in the Chi everyone was hatin on Com "he don't work with peeps from the Chi no more . . . ", "he done gone to New York and forgot where he from") Now I'm by no means a Kanye fan and I can appreciate the logistics of workin with a producer that CURRENTLY has the platinum touch but that doesn't mean that Com would be down and out if not for a kid who if memory serves was runnin all up in behind No ID and Dug Infinite trying to learn the MPC and would have loved to be on "Can I Borrow A Dollar"

Know before you speak . . .

  

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49. "he sold like 200k on his last album"
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you're suggesting Geffen would have given him the MONETARY support he needed to afford these so called "hot producers" you speak of? you think NO ID will get him on 106 and park? MTV? Kweli's made a really good track and video with Just Blaze, is that going anywhere? if you think I'M clutching Kanye's nutsacks, what you think Common is doing?

Kanye was the golden boy of the grammies, and this is HIS world. he's been the life support to Common AND Kweli's careers. i think "fans" just want to wanna keep their starving artists starving.

i'm not suggesting an ablum w/o Kanye wouldn't be top notch, and BE definitely isn't top notch to me. (Electric Circus is actually my second favorite album besides LWFC.) It's not like I don't wanna hear an album of just Common and Dilla, another RE album, Mos Def with Shawn J Period, etc. But these artists gotta pay bills, and having Kanye on your side is the lottery ticket.

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61. "RE: he sold like 200k on his last album"
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I don't think it's at all neccessary for Com to starve for his art, as an emcee you usually start of starving anyway, so no I don't think that the only way I know your real is if you broke. That shows no growth. My only argument is that latching on to what's hot for the moment (see Neptunes) is not always the best policy to adopt. It may raise your sales but when that persons star fizzles where are you left(especially if you go so far as to sign to there label). It's good to move with the times, but you can't forget your base, it's just like being in gov't especially if your talking about making money. You need those people loyal to you to stay that way. So yeah, link with the hometown favorite, get 4 maybe, 5 tracks, even make a couple of those the singles, and then get JD, ?uest, Premiere. Don't give me the whole damn album with the exception of one track produced by Mr. West as well as exec produced. That doesn't sound like a Com cd that sounds like a Kanye cd.

  

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35. "RE: How Much Do You Hate Kanye's Verse On "They Say": Vent Here..."
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i like it....

but i never heard the other version with consequence on it, anybody got a link?



...don't mention the war...

  

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36. "RE: How Much Do You Hate Kanye's Verse On "They Say": Vent Here..."
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Whatever man!!!

The only bad thing about the verse is the cadence. Kanye has abused that cadence for the last two years and THAT IMO is what makes the song .....OK!!!

The lyrics weren't wack at all...just the way it was delivered. And by now, I've gotten over that and actually like the song a lot. No matter, how you feel about that song...If they release it as the next single; the numbers for BE will increase rapidly. The only thing I care about is seeing BE go platinum because no matter how dope Common is....If BE doesn't sell more I'm worried that Com will start to lose the backing from his label.
















You don't impress me!!




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46. "RE: How Much Do You Hate Kanye's Verse On "They Say": Vent Here..."
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"If BE doesn't sell more I'm worried that Com will start to lose the backing from his label."

I'm feeling you brotha on that note. Shyt,if "Be" doesn't sell and the label doesn't back Com then we will have lost another good artist to this crap (Ying Yang Twins,Lil John etc.) people call music in these days and times.
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IndianBoy84
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37. "his voice just didn't go good with the track"
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lyrically, he wasn't that bad.

  

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ilovequesto
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39. "shit"
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40. "RE: How Much Do You Hate Kanye's Verse On "They Say": Vent Here..."
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Kanye's verse is..okay. I thought 'Quence's verse was better. If they don't release it as a single, I will be disappointed. I thought Consequence had a nice verse.

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43. "Fucking hell. Get over it. Some of yall need a life ... or a girlfriend."
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fuck a sig

  

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44. "They should probably release a "remix" with Quence on it."
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And put him in the video as well.

Anyways we should start a petition to make it the next single 'cause that my favorite track on the disc.

  

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backpackmusic
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48. "RE: How Much Do You Hate Kanye's Verse On "They Say": Vent Here..."
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words can't describe how much.

BUT IS IT REALLY REAL??

  

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50. "i liked it"
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it STILL aint easy bein 16...

They schools can't teach us shit
My people need freedom, we tryin to get all we can get
All my high school teachers can SUCK MY DICK
Tellin me white man lies straight bullshit...

  

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52. "I'm not a fan of his verses.. but the SONG is FIRE.."
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thass 1 of my fav's off the album..

Breathe E.Z.

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Mica
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55. "He should have "pras'd" himself and put his verse last"
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and in that position, it would have been perfect for skipping.

It's like he *knew* his verse was wack "Hahaha, I'ma make them listening to my wack ass verse because they all want to hear the new Comm verse at the end"

Bastard.

*gone*

  

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59. "lol"
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.........
oh well

  

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57. "It's not bad. The only really bad thing about it..."
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Is the "it's quite okay for a gangsta to wear sandals" line.

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62. "RE: Ha!"
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wtf is up with that line?

  

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